Saturday, September 18, 2021

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  • Marxists/monotheistic materialists -monism. A connection of religion and science, without psyche. They stole the soul.

    “My war – and I have yet to win a decisive battle – is with the modes of thought and conditioned feelings that prevail in psychology and therefore also in the way we think and feel about our being. Of these conditions none are more tyrannical than the convictions that clamp the mind and heart into positivistic science (geneticism and computerism), economics (bottom-line capitalism), and single-minded faith (fundamentalism).”
    ― James Hillman

    “Of course, a culture as manically and massively materialistic as ours creates materialistic behavior in its people, especially in those people who’ve been subjected to nothing but the destruction of imagination that this culture calls education, the destruction of autonomy it calls work, and the destruction of activity it calls entertainment.”
    ― James Hillman, We’ve Had a Hundred Years of Psychotherapy & the World’s Getting Worse

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyZHnpXp5g
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    James Hillman “Re-visioning psychology”.

  • Psyche is not a model, it is a forgotten perspective. Polytheistic reality is not a box, it is a map stolen by monotheistic culture. We must have a psychological map to talk about where is ego. There is a difference between simple rational archetypes and the psychological reality. For psyche, for polytheistic reality, psychosis is a proper language. And rationalism or fixation over ego control is a fallacy.

    The problem is that, for monotheism, psyche perspective does not exist. That is why it is so important to write about James Hillman. His perspective, polytheistic one, is a proper perspective. We can’t talk about psyche without psyche. Theology, religion, spirituality, materialism, science and nature are not the psyche. Without psyche, each of these perspective is an anti psychological fundamentalism. It is so important to read about archetypal psychology. Psyche is psyche, the word belongs to pagan mythology, itself. Not to religion, medicine or materialism.

  • The problem with today thinking is that people can’t imagine talking about identity/psyche or illness, without using medical empiricism.
    Medicine is not the owner of the psyche or even illness or pathology.

    Depression, psychosis even headaches does not belong to medicine. This is psyche, psyche creates pathology, and psyche is not medical empiricism. Monotheistic science talks about psyche and illnesses, using medical language, and we should remember that this is a medical usurpation. The proper language of psyche/pathology was destroyed by science and its pretensions to mythical reality and also to the psychological reality of illness. Psyche was destroyed by science.Imagination was destroyed by science, the psychological meaning of illness was destroyed by materialism. Mythical reality is not science. Psyche is not medical empiricism or materialism, and never will be.

    Psychological meaning of illness does not belong to medical empiricism. Every kind of pathology is an identity trait, at first. Not medicine. The nature of every illness is psychological , not medical.

    We are being treated by medical empiricism like a soulless meat. We are being treated that way, because we live in barbaric reality of materialistic fascism.
    People think that this is progress, to talk about psyche using medical empiricism. No, this is f. tragedy.
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    James Hillman “Re-visioning psychology.”

  • They need courage and understanding of those beyond the suicide topic, not pity . James Hillman was the only one who wrote book about the proper attitude toward suicide, suicidal people. Believing in the power of death over ego, that’s all.

    This culture should stop imposing ego heroism on suicidal people, because this is naive. In monotheistic culture there is no courage toward death…Because god saved us from death, and death just don’t exist. So there’s no death, no topic. And suicidal people are invisible enemies, so they are silenced and destroyed, as excluded by culture, pariahs.

    Psychiatry protects status quo of naive normalcy and their theological assumptions, so they are privileged. People beyond normalcy are invisible, because their wound is incurable, so the are seen as weak. In ego heroism culture we have the right….to win all the time, with everything. But collective ego is no longer able to win with death.

    This empty culture do not even have idea what psyche is, because psyche was wiped out by monotheistic religious roots. People are not even aware that they were robbed. This is tragedy. But not for those with power over unprivileged people. They will tell you to shut up and then they show you the nearest door.

    What is psychiatry? This is a institution for illegal people excluded by culture, without the right to live.
    Ego has power. Political and material, but not psychological.

    Ego cannot win with death. Ego is dependent on the psyche and, consequently, death.

  • We all need someone who will believe us. Monotheistic psychiatry does not believe in death. And psyche belongs to polytheistic reality, which is condemned by our shallow barbaric culture. This is tragedy for psychological man. Death is in the center of the psyche. From psychological point of view – mental health (ego heroism) is a naive heresy. Rationalism is the most naive kind of perception, but we like to feel comfortable with our thoughts. Death is not our enemy, egoic barbarism and comfortable cowardice, is.

    We must break free from the anti psychological monotheistic and spiritual chains. We need psychological perspective to cure our barbaric and materialistic point of view.

    Comfortable thinking does not describe reality of the psyche. Comfortable thinking describe our safety needs.

    I recommend James Hillman psychology to everyone. We need to cure our ideas, not psyche.

  • Great article about horrible world we are living in. Just great. Thank You, Sarah.

    “I’m in favor of destruction, aggression, hating things. Not bearing things anymore. We think the breakdown comes because our life is in bad shape. But maybe the ideas cause the disorder. Something tries to break through and causes the disorder.”

    The whole culture is under terrible pressure and fraught with worry. It’s hard to get out of that box. That’s the dominant situation all over the world.

    The self divided is precisely where the self is authentically located. . . We all have identity crises because a single identity is a delusion of the monotheistic mind. . . Authenticity is in the illusion, playing it, seeing through it from within as we play it, like an actor who sees through his mask and can only see in this way.

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    I don’t think anything changes until ideas change. The usual American viewpoint is to believe that something is wrong with the person.
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    “I’ve found that contemporary psychology enrages me with its simplistic ideas of human life, and also its emptiness.”

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    “My war – and I have yet to win a decisive battle – is with the modes of thought that and conditioned feelings that prevail in psychology and therefore also in the way we think and feel about our being. Of these conditions none are more tyrannical than the convictions that clamp the mind and heart into positivistic science (geneticism and computerism), economics (bottom-line capitalism), and single-minded faith (fundamentalism).”
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    JAMES HILLMAN

  • “When we are told what is healthy we are being told what is right to think and feel. When we are told what is mentally ill we are being told what ideas, behavior, and fantasies are wrong. […] The avenues of escape are blocked by the professional abuse of pathologizing. To refuse the mental health approach confirms one’s ‘sickness’. One needs ‘therapy’, […]

    How can we take back therapy […] from a system which must find illness in order to promote health and which, in order to increase the range of its helping, is obliged to extend the area of sickness. Ever deeper pockets of pathology to be analyzed, ever earlier traumata: primal, prenatal, into my astral body; ever more people into the ritual: the family, the office force, community mental health, analysis for everyone. […]
    Its practice may differ […] but the premise is the same. The work of making soul requires professional help. Soul-making has become restricted by therapy and to therapy. And psychopathology has become restricted to therapy’s negative definition of it, reduced to its role in the therapy game.”

    “The healer is the illness, and the illness is the healer. But as this ancient psychological idea has become translated into modern secular therapy, the”who” is none other than the professional therapist.
    By giving the pathologizing a clinical name, the professional therapist makes the first move in therapy game. The first move is not the pathologizing of the patient.
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    His complaints and oddities are not clinical psychopathology until so named. (They are psychological, and they are needed, because our psyche needs it, even if we, our ego is unable to cope)
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    On the one hand , I am protected from this “thing” by separation from it, it now has a name. But on the other hand, I now, have something…” Moreover the therapist has become the very god who by bringing the condition is the only one who can take it away.The patients tend to believe in his therapist: ” He alone can help me for only he knows really what is wrong.” What is “really” wrong means what is “literally” wrong, what has been literalized into wrongness by the professional therapy game.
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    In this way the analyst and the patient become locked in a long -term therapy analysis, for the analyst is the one, the very God, who has seen into the patient incurable weak spot, his vulnerable heel, his ruinous secret. The analyst’s insight and the patient’s wound together embody the archetypal figure of Wounded -Healer, another ancient and psychological way of expressing that illness and its healing are one and the same. But again in modern secular therapy the Wounded Healer has been divided down the middle: illness is all one the patient side and health all with the therapist. The archetype is split, and the two halves are bound together compellingly in what is called transference and countertransference.
    Little wonder therapy speaks so much of “resistance” and that manuals are written explaining how to overcome or break through the patient’s “defense mechanism”.

    “Therapeutic analysis has side effects no less lethal than drugs”

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    For the wrong pathologizing of the therapy game is killing.—————————————————— Levi -Strauss has noted that asymmetrical games, such as those between the unequal partners of therapy, end in killing one opponent. The killing of psychotherapy takes place on a psychological level:the neurosis, the problem, is supposedly “got rid of”, whereas actually it is soul that is being killed – again through a wrong pathologizing, a wrong understanding of the soul in the symptom.
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    Wrong pathologizing has spread well beyond the games of the consulting room and clinic, becoming a covert political instrument of the state.Political heretics may be declared mentally ill in order to banish them – and this procedure is smoothly justified with assurances that it is for the “patient’s” good. We may not draw comfort from supposing that this goes on only in the Soviet union.

    James Hillman

  • Pathology of any kind is a proper language of the psyche, our psyche does not create health. Our pathology is always present, in one way or another. Psychological meaning of illness is something more important than empty definition of utopian health. Health is just an empty claim toward psyche, life. Health does not exists, I am afraid. We are highly pathological beings, form the beginning of our life. Health is meaningless to psychological reality. We want to see us as healthy beings, but health does not exists in reality. Our cells are dying even now. The death and its pathology keeps us alive. The problem is that materialistic monotheism likes the utopian vision of health. Psyche creates pathology all the time, but heroic ego wants to believe in everlasting health. Which is utopia.

    I recommend archetypal psychology to everyone.Because it is not naive. We are born to die. We are here, because we wanted to live for a while. We will suffer, we will be ill, and then we die. Hey ho let’s go.
    We need to revive the psychological meaning of pathology/suffering.

    James Hillman “Re- visioning psychology”.

  • James Hillman on the folly of reducing mind to brain.
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    The upshot of genetic studies leads in two (!) directions: a narrow path and a broad one. The narrow road heads toward simplistic, monogenic causes. It wants to pinpoint bits of tissue and correlate them with the vast complexity of psychic meanings. The folly of reducing mind to brain never seems to leave the Western scene. We can never give it up because it is so basic to our Western rationalist and positivist mind-set. The rationalist in the psyche wants to locate causes you can put your hands on and fix.

    Machines provide the best models for meeting this desire. Take them apart, find their inner mechanisms, and then adjust their functioning by modifying their ratchets, enriching their fuel, greasing their connections. Henry Ford as father of American mental health. Result: Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, and dozens of other effective products for internal adjustments that we consume in abundance, millions of us, daily or twice daily. The simplistics of monogenic causes eventually leads to the control of behavior by drugs–that is, to drugged behavior.

    Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.

    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.

    The narrow path is yet more retro, going back to the skill analysis of Franz Josef Gall (M.D., Vienna, 1795), who settled in Paris and was much appreciated by the French. From him came the “evidence” that skull bumps and declivities could be correlated with psychological faculties (a system later called phrenology). Much as they are today, the faculties were given big names, such as memory, judgment, emotionalism, musical and mathematical talent, criminality, and so on. Refinement in methods over the years does not necessarily lead to progress in theorizing: 1795 or 1995–material location, and then reduction of psyche to location, prompts the enterprise….
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  • Apollonian ego fixation. This kind of humiliation is only a result. Just imagine that there is no psychiatry, only apollonian fascists and psyche, which is their slave. Apollo and Hades. Imagine that people only represent powers that are beyond them. Apollo (rationalism) is a Nazi, and he thinks he can control Hades (psychological/poetic imagination). Which is impossible, because Hades is the main power, main god of the all gods, all imagination.

    Think in mythical way about imagination. Forget about persons, people with names and surnames, forget about – I am. Forget about ego. This is a war against imaginal reality, and we must abolish the materialistic fascism of egoic people, because they think they can control imaginal reality in which our ego only dwells. Still, ego is not the owner of the psyche.

    Science is not something that will explain people the need of imaginal reality.Psyche is something more. Something more than material science.

    Fight for the rights of the psyche in material reality, which completely forget about the roots.
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    In the history of the treatment of depression, there was the dunking stool, purging of the bowels of black bile, hoses, attempts to shock the patient. All of these represent hatred or aggression towards what depression represents in the patient.

    James Hillman
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  • The Envoy of Mr. Cogito
    BY ZBIGNIEW HERBERT
    TRANSLATED BY BOGDANA CARPENTER

    Go where those others went to the dark boundary
    for the golden fleece of nothingness your last prize

    go upright among those who are on their knees
    among those with their backs turned and those toppled in the dust

    you were saved not in order to live
    you have little time you must give testimony

    be courageous when the mind deceives you be courageous
    in the final account only this is important

    and let your helpless Anger be like the sea
    whenever you hear the voice of the insulted and beaten

    let your sister Scorn not leave you
    for the informers executioners cowards—they will win
    they will go to your funeral and with relief will throw a lump of earth
    the woodborer will write your smoothed-over biography

    and do not forgive truly it is not in your power
    to forgive in the name of those betrayed at dawn

    beware however of unnecessary pride
    keep looking at your clown’s face in the mirror
    repeat: I was called—weren’t there better ones than I

    beware of dryness of heart love the morning spring
    the bird with an unknown name the winter oak

    light on a wall the splendour of the sky
    they don’t need your warm breath
    they are there to say: no one will console you

    be vigilant—when the light on the mountains gives the sign—arise and go
    as long as blood turns in the breast your dark star

    repeat old incantations of humanity fables and legends
    because this is how you will attain the good you will not attain
    repeat great words repeat them stubbornly
    like those crossing the desert who perished in the sand

    and they will reward you with what they have at hand
    with the whip of laughter with murder on a garbage heap

    go because only in this way will you be admitted to the company of cold skulls
    to the company of your ancestors: Gilgamesh Hector Roland
    the defenders of the kingdom without limit and the city of ashes

    Be faithful Go
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQEGoO67PUM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-vp_YcnjY

    James Hillman – “Re -visioning psychology”.

    This is an answer, it is not mine, it is from the victims of the psychiatry.

  • James Hillman on the folly of reducing mind to brain:
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    The upshot of genetic studies leads in two (!) directions: a narrow path and a broad one. The narrow road heads toward simplistic, monogenic causes. It wants to pinpoint bits of tissue and correlate them with the vast complexity of psychic meanings. The folly of reducing mind to brain never seems to leave the Western scene. We can never give it up because it is so basic to our Western rationalist and positivist mind-set. The rationalist in the psyche wants to locate causes you can put your hands on and fix.

    Machines provide the best models for meeting this desire. Take them apart, find their inner mechanisms, and then adjust their functioning by modifying their ratchets, enriching their fuel, greasing their connections. Henry Ford as father of American mental health. Result: Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, and dozens of other effective products for internal adjustments that we consume in abundance, millions of us, daily or twice daily. The simplistics of monogenic causes eventually leads to the control of behavior by drugs–that is, to drugged behavior.

    Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.

    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.
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  • Thank You for that important article. I must add something really important, because it may help some people to understand the empirical fallacy of scientific era.

    James Hillman on the folly of reducing mind to brain:
    —————————————————————————————————
    The upshot of genetic studies leads in two (!) directions: a narrow path and a broad one. The narrow road heads toward simplistic, monogenic causes. It wants to pinpoint bits of tissue and correlate them with the vast complexity of psychic meanings. The folly of reducing mind to brain never seems to leave the Western scene. We can never give it up because it is so basic to our Western rationalist and positivist mind-set. The rationalist in the psyche wants to locate causes you can put your hands on and fix.

    Machines provide the best models for meeting this desire. Take them apart, find their inner mechanisms, and then adjust their functioning by modifying their ratchets, enriching their fuel, greasing their connections. Henry Ford as father of American mental health. Result: Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, and dozens of other effective products for internal adjustments that we consume in abundance, millions of us, daily or twice daily. The simplistics of monogenic causes eventually leads to the control of behavior by drugs–that is, to drugged behavior.

    Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.

    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.

    The narrow path is yet more retro, going back to the skill analysis of Franz Josef Gall (M.D., Vienna, 1795), who settled in Paris and was much appreciated by the French. From him came the “evidence” that skull bumps and declivities could be correlated with psychological faculties (a system later called phrenology). Much as they are today, the faculties were given big names, such as memory, judgment, emotionalism, musical and mathematical talent, criminality, and so on. Refinement in methods over the years does not necessarily lead to progress in theorizing: 1795 or 1995–material location, and then reduction of psyche to location, prompts the enterprise.

    The contrary direction to narrowing nature to brain simplistics is expanding nurture to a far more embracing notion of environment. If environment means literally what’s around, it must also mean whatever is around. This because the unconscious psyche selects quite arbitrarily among the stuff encountered every day in the environment. Tiny and trivial bits of information may have huge subliminal psychic effects, as the days’ residues in dreams show. We do dream of the damnedest things! Much of each day is never noticed or recalled, but the psyche picks up the environmental flotsam and delivers it to the dream. The dream–a processing plant recycling the environment, finding soul values in junk. The dream–an artist, appropriating images from the environment for recollection in tranquility.

    Because we walk about in fields of psychic realities that influences our lives, we have to broaden the notion of environment in terms of “deep ecology,” the hypothesis that the planet is a living, breathing, and self-regulating organism. Since anything around can nourish our souls by feeding imagination, there is soul stuff out there. So why not admit, as does deep ecology, that the environment itself is ensouled, animated, inextricably meshed with us and not fundamentally separate from us?

    The ecological vision restores to environment also the classical idea of providentia–that the world provides for us, looks out for us, even looks after us. It wants us around, too. Predators, tornadoes, and blackflies in June are only pieces of the picture. Just think of all that’s delicious and sweet-smelling. Do birds sing but for each other? This breathable, edible, and pleasant planet, invisibly serviced and maintained, keeps us all by means of its life-support system. Such would be an idea of nurture that is truly nurturing.

    “Environment,” then, would be imagined well beyond social and economic conditions, beyond the entire cultural setting, to include every item that takes care of us every day: our tires and coffee cups and door handles and the book you are holding in your hands. It becomes impossible to exclude this bit of environment as irrelevant in favor of that bit as significant, as if we could rank world phenomena in order of importance. Important for whom? Our understanding of importance itself has to change; instead of “important to me,” think of “important to other aspects of the environment.” Does this item nurture what else is around, not merely us who are around? Does it contribute to the intentions of the field of which we are only one short-lived part?

    As notions of environment shift, we notice environment differently. It becomes more and more difficult to make a cut between psyche and world, subject and object, in here and out there. I can no longer be sure whether the psyche is in me or whether I am in the psyche as I am in my dreams, as I am in the moods of the landscapes and the city streets, as I am in “music heard so deeply/That it is not heard at all, but you are the music/While the music lasts” (T.S. Eliot). Where does the environment stop and I begin, and can I begin at all without being in some place, deeply involved in, nurtured by the nature of the world?

  • “Without metaphorical understanding, everything is only what it is and must be met on the simplest, most direct level. Everything then is a call to action and the hero is there to realize himself in a reality that serves his literal notion of it. A view of reality that does not recognize other views is of course delusional. In the heroic ego’s case, the delusion is self-divinization, the perspective of the human ego as the superior, indeed the only, actuality. The rest is not real. . . .

    Without imaginal understanding, we may expect killing, as if our culture cannot ever take down the wild Western ego until it has restored the ancient sense of image and recovered the imaginal from the broken shards of reformational literalism.”

    James Hillman, The Dream and the Underworld (NY: Harper & Row, 1979), p. 115.

  • I would like to add w very important issue about the real function of psychotherapy and relation between the patient, and the professional (slave – master union)

    “When we are told what is healthy we are being told what is right to think and feel. When we are told what is mentally ill we are being told what ideas, behavior, and fantasies are wrong. […] The avenues of escape are blocked by the professional abuse of pathologizing. To refuse the mental health approach confirms one’s ‘sickness’. One needs ‘therapy’, […]
    How can we take back therapy […] from a system which must find illness in order to promote health and which, in order to increase the range of its helping, is obliged to extend the area of sickness. Ever deeper pockets of pathology to be analyzed, ever earlier traumata: primal, prenatal, into my astral body; ever more people into the ritual: the family, the office force, community mental health, analysis for everyone. […]
    Its practice may differ […] but the premise is the same. The work of making soul requires professional help. Soul-making has become restricted by therapy and to therapy. And psychopathology has become restricted to therapy’s negative definition of it, reduced to its role in the therapy game.”

    “The healer is the illness, and the illness is the healer. But as this ancient psychological idea has become translated into modern secular therapy, the”who” is none other than the professional therapist.
    By giving the pathologizing a clinical name, the professional therapist makes the first move in therapy game. The first move is not the pathologizing of the patient.
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    His complaints and oddities are not clinical psychopathology until so named. (They are psychological, and they are needed, because our psyche needs it, even if we, our ego is unable to cope)
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    On the one hand , I am protected from this “thing” by separation from it, it now has a name. But on the other hand, I now, have something…” Moreover the therapist has become the very god who by bringing the condition is the only one who can take it away.The patients tend to believe in his therapist: ” He alone can help me for only he knows really what is wrong.” What is “really” wrong means what is “literally” wrong, what has been literalized into wrongness by the professional therapy game.
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    In this way the analyst and the patient become locked in a long -term therapy analysis, for the analyst is the one, the very God, who has seen into the patient incurable weak spot, his vulnerable heel, his ruinous secret. The analyst’s insight and the patient’s wound together embody the archetypal figure of Wounded -Healer, another ancient and psychological way of expressing that illness and its healing are one and the same. But again in modern secular therapy the Wounded Healer has been divided down the middle: illness is all one the patient side and health all with the therapist. The archetype is split, and the two halves are bound together compellingly in what is called transference and countertransference.
    Little wonder therapy speaks so much of “resistance” and that manuals are written explaining how to overcome or break through the patient’s “defense mechanism”.

    “Therapeutic analysis has side effects no less lethal than drugs”

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    For the wrong pathologizing of the therapy game is killing. Levi -Strauss has noted that asymmetrical games, such as those between the unequal partners of therapy, end in killing one opponent. The killing of psychotherapy takes place on a psychological level:the neurosis, the problem, is supposedly “got rid of”, whereas actually it is soul that is being killed – again through a wrong pathologizing, a wrong understanding of the soul in the symptom.
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    Wrong pathologizing has spread well beyond the games of the consulting room and clinic, becoming a covert political instrument of the state.Political heretics may be declared mentally ill in order to banish them – and this procedure is smoothly justified with assurances that it is for the “patient’s” good. We may not draw comfort from supposing that this goes on only in the Soviet union.

    James Hillman

  • “Psychological” and “treatment” cannot be conjoined – unless we revise what we mean by treatment and see it as fantasy.

    Psychotherapy, in accordance with the root meaning of the words, means to serve soul, not treat it. Serving soul implies letting it rule; it leads, we follow.

    By carelessly turning over our symptoms to professional therapists, we have reinforced the grip of professionalism upon psychopathology.

    James Hillman

  • Thank You for this story, Joe. I am sure it was not easy for You to write this. There are things worse than death itself. Like, for example, children in mental hospitals. Hideous crime of phony civilized people.

    “We approach people the same way we approach our cars. We take the poor kid to a doctor and ask, What’s wrong with him, how much will it cost, and when can I pick him up? ”

    James Hillman

  • “The naturalistic fallacy is common because it requires least effort on the part of an interpreter.He need only to look around him at natural everyday events for his models. The easiness is itself a part of the fallacy -the inertia of following nature.
    Naturalism soon declines into materialism, a view which regards the way things are in the perceptual world of things, facts and sense -realities to be the primary mode.It insist that material reality is first and psychic reality must conform with it: psyche must obey the laws of physis and imagination follow perception.”

    “Like poetry psychic speech is condensed and distilled. This speech is on another level, raised from natural meaning to imaginative meaning.”

  • I found some quotes, which can help you:

    “When we are told what is healthy we are being told what is right to think and feel. When we are told what is mentally ill we are being told what ideas, behaviour, and fantasies are wrong. […] The avenues of escape are blocked by the professional abuse of pathologizing. To refuse the mental health approach confirms one’s ‘sickness’. One needs ‘therapy’, […]
    How can we take back therapy […] from a system which must find illness in order to promote health and which, in order to increase the range of its helping, is obliged to extend the area of sickness. Ever deeper pockets of pathology to be analyzed, ever earlier traumata: primal, prenatal, into my astral body; ever more people into the ritual: the family, the office force, community mental health, analysis for everyone. […]
    Its practice may differ […] but the premise is the same. The work of making soul requires professional help. Soul-making has become restricted by therapy and to therapy. And psychopathology has become restricted to therapy’s negative definition of it, reduced to its role in the therapy game.”

    “The healer is the illness, and the illness is the healer. But as this ancient psychological idea has become translated into modern secular therapy, the”who” is none other than the professional therapist.
    By giving the pathologizing a clinical name, the professional therapist makes the first move in therapy game. The first move is not the pathologizing of the patient. His complaints and oddities are not clinical psychopathology until so named.

    On the one hand , I am protected from this “thing” bu separation from it, it now has a name.But on the other hand, I now, have something…”Moreover the therapist has become the very god who by bringing the condition is the only one who can take it away.The patients tend to believe in his therapist: ” He alone can help me for only he knows really what is wrong.” What is “really” wrong means what is “literally” wrong, what has been literalized into wrongness by the professional therapy game.

    In this way the analyst and the patient become locked in a long -term therapy analysis, for the analyst is the one, the very God, who has seen into the patient incurable weak spot, his vulnerable heel, his ruinous secret. The analyst’s insight and the patient’s wound together embody the archetypal figure of Wounded -Healer, another ancient and psychological way of expressing that illness and its healing are one and the same. Bit again in modern secular therapy the Wounded Healer has been divided down the middle :illness is all one the patient side and health all with the therapist. The archetype is split, and the two halves are bound together compellingly in what is called transference and countertransference.
    Little wonder therapy speaks so much of “resistance” and that manuals are written explaining how to overcome or break through the patient’s “defense mechanism”.

    “Therapeutic analysis has side effects no less lethal than drugs”

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    For the wrong pathologizing of the therapy game is killing. Levi Strauss has noted that asymmetrical games, such as those between the unequal partners of therapy, end in killing one opponent. The killing of psychoatherapy takes place on a psychological level:the neurosis, the problem, is supposedly “got rid of”, whereas actually it is soul that is being killed – again through a wrong pathologizing, a wrong understanding of the soul in the symptom.

    Wrong pathologizing has spread well beyond the games of the consulting room and clinic, becoming a covert political instrument of the state.Political heretics may be declared mentally ill in order to banish them – and this procedure is smoothly justified with assurances that it is for the “patient’s” good. We may not draw comfort from suppoising that this goes on only in the Soviet union.

    2.Psyche and naturalistic fallacy.

    “Owing to the simplistic idea of nature used in therapy, the natural tend to be idealized. It becomes a natural without deformities, irrationalities and individual idiosyncracies. The ideal standard is used moralistically to find fault with dream and dreamers for what deviates from nature.

    Ideals and norm provide means for seeing pathologizing but they are not to be taken as means for measuring pathologizing. From the psychological point of view neither the statistical norm nor the ideal norm can offer the least relevance regarding the inherent value of pathologized fantasy experience. My nightmares, compulsions, anxieties may be essential to my work, my life -style and may relations with others.

    Norms are perceptual modes for seeing contrasts; they are staining methods which help us notice deviations more sharply. By realizing how strongly pathologized an event is, we we more immediately sense its importance. But psychological worth of what is going on is stated not by the norm or the deviation, but by affliction itself.

    “Events of imagination do not occur in empirical nature”
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    James Hillman Re -Visioning psychology

  • I mean ‘rationazism’. Sorry.

    I think it is important to know how people think in “The Age of Reason”.

    James Hillman on the folly of reducing mind to brain :
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    The upshot of genetic studies leads in two (!) directions: a narrow path and a broad one. The narrow road heads toward simplistic, monogenic causes. It wants to pinpoint bits of tissue and correlate them with the vast complexity of psychic meanings. The folly of reducing mind to brain never seems to leave the Western scene. We can never give it up because it is so basic to our Western rationalist and positivist mind-set. The rationalist in the psyche wants to locate causes you can put your hands on and fix.

    Machines provide the best models for meeting this desire. Take them apart, find their inner mechanisms, and then adjust their functioning by modifying their ratchets, enriching their fuel, greasing their connections. Henry Ford as father of American mental health. Result: Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, and dozens of other effective products for internal adjustments that we consume in abundance, millions of us, daily or twice daily. The simplistics of monogenic causes eventually leads to the control of behavior by drugs–that is, to drugged behavior.

    Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.
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    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.
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    The narrow path is yet more retro, going back to the skill analysis of Franz Josef Gall (M.D., Vienna, 1795), who settled in Paris and was much appreciated by the French. From him came the “evidence” that skull bumps and declivities could be correlated with psychological faculties (a system later called phrenology). Much as they are today, the faculties were given big names, such as memory, judgment, emotionalism, musical and mathematical talent, criminality, and so on. Refinement in methods over the years does not necessarily lead to progress in theorizing: 1795 or 1995–material location, and then reduction of psyche to location, prompts the enterprise.

  • I realized that I must write something, because this article addresses too many of important concerns.

    James Hillman about nominalism:

    “The main attack upon the nosology and taxonomy of psychic pathology has been directed at the relation between the words used and the events they are supposed signify.These words, strictly speaking are empty nomina such as we saw in the first chapter.The have no intrinsic connection with the conditions, or any underlying reason for them, which the labels so carefully describe”.
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    “The technical terms – which are now also often popular insults – stress accurate clinical sketches of symptoms, their onset and course, and their statistically expected outcome.Nothing further about the nature of the person exhibiting the syndrome or about the nature of the syndrome itself is necessary for applying one of the psychopathological labels. Schizophrenic behavior can be precisely described and atrributed to a person independent of whatever might be its results: genetic, semantic, toxic, psychodynamic, biochemical, social, familial…,The empirical nominalistic view calls for nothing more, nothing deeper than MASTERING A TECHNICAL VOCABULARY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Psyche, refers to Pre-Christian point of view. Psychiatry exists, because monism have destroyed psyche. And monotheism sees psyche as its greatest enemy, because of the naturally pagan/polytheistic nature of the psyche. They are using monotheistic language to describe polytheistic nature of banned psyche. So nothing is right and this is only a false empiricism.

    On polytheistic point of view –
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    “The many contains the unity of the one without losing the possibilities of the many”.

    “When the monotheism of consciousness is no longer able to deny the existence of fragmentary autonomous systems and no longer able to deal with our actual psychic state, then there arises the fantasy of returning to Greek polytheism”.

    “The phenomena of dissociation – breaking away,splitting off, personification, multiplication,ambivalence – will always seem as illness to the ego as it has come to defined”

    JUNG:
    If tendencies towards dissociation were not inherent in the human psyche,fragmentary psychic system would never have bee split off; in other words, neither spirits nor gods would have ever come into existence. That is also the reason why our time has become so utterly godless and profane, we lack all the knowledge of the unconscious psyche and pursue the cult of consciousness to the exclusion of all else.

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    Our true religion is a monotheism of consciousness, a possession by it, coupled with fanatical denial of existence of fragmentary autonomous systems”
    (Apollonian ego hegemony in The Age of Reason)
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    I hope that Jung, James Hillman and his “Re -Visioning psychology” will help you understand, what “THEY” have done with the psyche and the language, James.

  • You are talking about legalizing the pathological identity in monotheistic (theological) state ruled by vulgar materialism. From materialistic, apollonic point of view, pathology is evil, because monotheistic man see only evil in his psychological life or, he cannot see it at all. Because he sees only materialistic needs.

    That is why apollonian ego, rational, monotheistic man should never have a power over psyche. It leads only to materialistic psychopathy like – communism, capitalism, psychiatry. All apollonian ego wants, is power and money. For apollonian ego in the center of the psyche is….apollonian ego.

    Psychological man needs real human identity, not diagnosis. And that identity was stolen by monotheistic man and by the age of reason. Psyche needs its stolen image. From psychological point of view, psyche is a value. For apollonian materialists psyche is an enemy and BS. Their identity is too empty, convenient and materialistic to see pathology from the proper angle.

    Apollonians wants only to have convenient life, they do not need pathology, they cannot see its value and meaning. So we must give a power over psyche, to the real father of psychological life, to Hades. Psyche needs Copernicus not false empiricism. Psyche is not a property of medicine, biology. Materialistic, monotheistic man talks about polytheistic man in monotheistic language which is full of hatred. The 2nd dimension cannot see the value of 3rd dimension. They can see only the shadow.
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    We must fight with monotheism. Because we know better what psyche is. We must restore the worth of polytheistic identity. Because monotheistic man won’t do it.
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    James Hillman quotes-
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    My practice tells me I can no longer distinguish clearly between neurosis of self and neurosis of world, psychopathology of self and psychopathology of world. Moreover, it tells me that to place neurosis and psychopathology solely in personal reality is a delusional repression of what is actually, realistically, being experienced.

    Psychoanalysis has to get out of the consulting room and analyze all kinds of things. You have to see that the buildings are anorexic, you have to see that the language is schizogenic, that “normalcy” is manic, and medicine and business are paranoid.

    The word “normal” comes from the Greek norma, which was a carpenter’s square, that right-angled tool for establishing straightness.

    Expectations that are only statistical are no longer human.

    As long as you’re going to create a castle, the psyche can only come in as an invader.

    In my bones, I am afraid of Christian unconsciousness, because, unlike Buddhism, say, or even Judaism, Christianism lives myths deliberately, insisting they are not myths, and this has dreadful paranoid consequences.

    Soul enters only via symptoms, via outcast phenomena like the imagination of artists or alchemy or “primitives,” or of course, disguised as psychopathology. That’s what Jung meant when he said the Gods have become diseases: the only way back for them in a Christian world is via the outcast.

    History is one way of making a gestalt: historical references, figures from the past release the foreground event from being stuck in only what it says it is.

    In Freud’s time we felt oppressed in the family, in sexual situations, in our crazy hysterical conversion symptoms, and where we felt oppressed, there was the repressed. Where do we feel that thick kind of oppression today? In institutions–hospitals, universities, businesses; in public buildings, in filling out forms, in traffic…

    Psychopathic behavior is a fundamentalist behavior: taking fantasies literally and also confusing the literal and the concrete. Now this is just what the Fundamentalist churches support: if your arm offend thee, cut it off. If your nose offend thee, get it straightened.

    The whole world is sick….and you can’t put this right by having a good therapeutic dialogue or finding deeper meanings. It’s not about meaning anymore; it’s about survival.

    Do you see the complete harmony between central dictatorship, fascism, political callousness, and the self-centeredness of the spiritual point of view?

    A terrorist is the product of our education that says that fantasy is not real, that says aesthetics is just for artists, that says soul is only for priests, imagination is trivial or dangerous and for crazies, and that reality, what we must adapt to, is the external world, a world that is dead. A terrorist is a result of this whole long process of wiping out the psyche.

    There is a secret love hiding in each problem.

    Hard to believe, but the hypochondrias are taking care of us, the depressions are slowing us down, obsessions are ways of polishing the image, paranoid suspicions are ways of trying to see through–all these moves of the pathological are ways we are being loved in the peculiar way the psyche works.

    When Freud says, “Where Id was, there shall Ego be”–it is also an extraordinarily greedy statement. He wants to get every last stone out of the quarry. But what about the quarry?

    The psyche is highly flammable material. So we are always wrapping things in asbestos, keeping our images and fantasies at arm’s length because they are so full of love.

    Our life is psychological, and the purpose of life is to make psyche of it, to find connections between life and soul.

    Our gods have become small, save one, and with the exception of a few last conventions of proper names, titles, and places, and the nonsense capitals of corporate abbreviations (nominalism is capitalism, letters as units of exchange), the one magnification persisting as a capital refers to the one person still remaining in a depersonified world: I. Only I and God, one to one, and some say God is dead.

    To mythic consciousness, the persons of the imagination are real.

    When the dominant vision that holds a period of culture together cracks, consciousness regresses into earlier containers, seeking sources for survival which also offer sources of revival.

    By means of personifications my sense of person becomes more vivid for I carry with me at all times the protection of my daimones: the images of dead people who mattered to me, of ancestral figures of my stock, cultural and historical persons of renown and people of fable who provide exemplary images–a wealth of guardians. They guard my fate, guide it, probably are it. “Perhaps–who knows,” writes Jung, “these eternal images are what men mean by fate.” We need this help, for who can carry his fate alone?

    The cooking vessel of the soul takes in everything, everything can become soul; and by taking into its imagination any and all events, psychic space grows.

    There may well be more psychopathology actually going on while transcending than while being immersed in pathologizing.

    Symptoms, not therapists, led this century to soul.

    The healer is the illness and the illness is the healer.

    When we are told what is healthy we are being told what is right to think and feel. When we are told what is mentally ill we are being told what ideas, behavior, and fantasies are wrong.

    Let us see pathologizing as a mode of speech.

    If the fundamental principle of psychological life is differentiation, then no single perspective can embrace psychological life, and norms are the delusions that parts prescribe to one another.

    Pathologizing forces the soul to a consciousness of itself as different from the ego and its life–a consciousness that obeys its own laws of metaphorical enactment in intimate relation with death.

    The alchemists spoke of patience as a first quality of soul and considered soul-making the longest journey, a via longissima. The language is digestion, a vegetable love, depression into still waters.

    Literalism prevents psychologizing by making psychology of it.

    As truths are the fictions of the rational, so fictions are the truths of the imaginal.

    Psychological awareness rises from errors, coincidences, indefiniteness, from the chaos deeper than intelligent control.

    Knowledge makes us able to leave it behind, able to take off down the road of pitfalls in full foolishness, risking even greater windmills still further out, an old knight more and more bold, an old rogue more and more peculiar, ageing into the freedom of our pathology.

    The horizon of the psyche these days is shrunk to the personal, and the new psychology of humanism fosters the little self-important man at the great sea’s edge, turning to himself to ask how he feels today, filling in his questionnaire, counting his personal inventory. He has abandoned intellect and interpreted his imagination in order to become with his “gut experiences” and “emotional problems”; his soul has become equated with these. His fantasy of redemption has shrunk to “ways of coping”; his stubborn pathology, that via regia to the soul’s depths, is cast forth in Janovian screams like swine before Perls, disclosed in a closed Gestalt of group closeness, or dropped in an abyss of regression during the clamber up to Maslovian peaks.

    The psyche moves; but does psychology?

    Now we are called defensive or resistant to the therapeutic process where once we might have been blamed for closing ourselves against God’s grace or turning from His will.

    If our civilization suffers from hybris, from ego inflation and superbia, psychology has done its part. It has been looking at soul in th ego’s mirror, never seeing psyche, always seeing man. And this man has been monotheistic Reformational man, enemy of images.

    Reflection in the mirror of the soul lets one see the madness of one’s spiritual drive, and the importance of this madness.

    The spirit turned toward psyche, rather than deserting it for high places and cosmic love, finds ever further possibilities of seeing through the opacities and obfuscations in the valley. Sunlight enters the vale. The Word participates in gossip and chatter.

    Cure the symptom and lose the God. Had Jacob not grappled with the Daemon he would indeed have not been hurt, and he would not have been Jacob either.

    Economics is our contemporary theology, regardless of how we spend Sunday.

    We now call the destruction of old ideas, politely, a “paradigm shift.” “Catastrophe theory” would be more appropriate. The vitality of a culture depends less on its hopes and its history than on its capacity to entertain willingly the divine and daimonic force of ideas.

    Two insanely dangerous consequences result from raising efficiency to the level of an independent principle. First, it favors short-term thinking–no looking ahead, down the line; and it produces insensitive feeling–no looking around at the life values being lived so efficiently. Second, means become ends; that is, doing something becomes the full justification of doing regardless of what you do.

    Inefficiency becomes a favorite mode of rebellion against the tyranny of efficiency: slowdown, work-to-rule, buck-passing, absenteeism, delayed responses, mislaid documents, unreturned phone calls.

    Anyone who justifies decisions by referring to the bottom line has something to learn from Treblinka.

    For a candidate for political office to campaign on a platform of efficiency in government suggests the infiltration of fascistic ideals. Mussolini made the trains run on time–but at what cost?

    Today we need heroes of descent, not masters of denial, mentors of maturity who can carry sadness, who give love to aging, who show soul without irony or embarrassment.

    Instead of adventuring forward to explore and research unknown territory, control fights a rearguard action, keeping inventory of what has already happened. It likes complete reports. Control, for all its self-assured position of command, relies on a defensive vision, and the traits enumerated–enforced loyalty, exactitude, suspicion of the hidden, watchfulness–are paranoid traits.

    In any system, whether a corporation, a family or the inner arrangements of the human psyche, a vigorous “no” to the good of the whole may serve the good of the whole and increase its power even more than a complaint “yes.”

    Besides policing weapons, we might search for methods of teaching that capture attention and evoke concentration–images, dramas, rituals, rhythms–thereby transferring power back from the weapon to the child’s mind.

    The lead horse does not run because it is whipped.

    Absolutism is not a ruthless ruler, but a ruthless rule–and this we don’t easily remember, for our minds fix upon the figures of czars and crime lords. These images serve to keep the danger of tyranny projected onto Stalin, Genghis Khan and Al Capone, protecting us from the absolutism that can rule the psyche in the guise of fundamentalism in religion, bottom-lineism in business and progress in the sciences.

    Purists are deadly, and so they know all about deadly sins.

    Something always has you in mind.

    “Well, what can I do about the world? This thing’s bigger than me.” That’s the child archetype talking. “All I can do is go into myself, work on my growth, my development, find good parenting, support groups.” This is a disaster for our political world, for our democracy. Democracy depends on intensely active citizens, not children.

    The ideal of growth makes us feel stunted; the ideal family makes us feel crazy.

    We’re not allowed in the street. We have to be careful, pretty correct, not extreme or radical, and not mix it up with our clients and patients out in the world. And this slants our thinking toward white, middle-class psychology.

    You can move to nirvana, but the Gods find out where you go.

    Is there a reality that is not framed or formed? No. Reality is always coming through a pair of glasses, a point of view, a language–a fantasy.

    I won’t accept these simple opposites–either individual self in control or a totalitarian, mindless mob. This kind of fantasy keeps us afraid of community. It locks us up inside our separate selves all alone and longing for connection. In fact, the idea of surrendering to the fascist mob is the result of the separated self. It’s the old Apollonian ego, aloof and clear, panicked by the Dionysian flow.

    Sometimes, the genius seems to show only in symptoms and disorders, as a kind of preventive medicine, holding you back from a false route.

    Picasso said, “I don’t develop; I am.” And the puzzle in therapy is not how did I get this way, but what does my angel want with me?

    Let’s call them “troubles.” Can you imagine a blues singer going on about problems?

    I challenge psychotherapy’s cool green consulting rooms, the soothing images and framed diplomas, because they are calming and cooling the valuable madness in our society so that psychology has become part of Henry Miller’s Air-Conditioned Nightmare, his phrase for the U.S.A.

    Mediocrity is no answer to violence. In fact, it probably invites violence. At least the mediocre and the violent appear together as in the old Western movies–the ruffian outlaw band shooting up main street and the little white church with the little white schoolteacher wringing her hands. To cool violence you need rhythm, humor, tempering; you need dance and rhetoric. Not therapeutic understanding.

    If therapy imagines its task to be that of helping people cope (and not protest), to adapt (and not rebel), to normalize their oddity, and to accept themselves “and work within your situation; make it work for you” (rather than refuse the unacceptable), then therapy is collaborating with what the state wants: docile plebes. Coping simply equals compliance.

    Now when therapy decides to cure the pathology, instead of seeing that the pathology is part of the crack or the broken window, and that something is trying to get in, then it seems to me it’s creating more pathology and keeping the Gods even further away. And then they break in through the whole fucking society.

    The sexual fascination is the soul trying to get out and get into something other than itself.

    If we could recover the imaginal we must first recover its organ, the heart, and its kind of philosophy.

    The heart in the beast is not your heart only: it is a microcosmic sun, a cosmos of all possible experiences that no one can own.

    The transfiguration of matter occurs through wonder.

    The desert is not in Egypt; it is anywhere once we desert the heart.

    Perhaps Konrad Lorenz is wrong, and the counselors wrong too, who seek to find a way beyond aggression. Is it “aggression,” or is it the lion roaring at the enraging desert? Has psychology not missed the native sulphur, neglected Mars who rides a lion, Mars, beloved of Aphrodite, demanding right. Splendor Solis. Sol invictus: Mithra of the heart.

    I find today that patients are more sensitive than the worlds they live in.

    The world, because of its breakdown, is entering a new moment of consciousness: by drawing attention to itself by means of its symptoms, it is becoming aware of itself as a psychic reality.

    Let us imagine the anima mundi [world soul] neither above the world encircling it as a divine and remote emanation of spirit, a world of powers, archetypes, and principles transcendent to things, nor within the material world as its unifying panpsychic life-principle. Rather let us imagine the anima mundi as that particular soul-spark, that seminal image, which offers itself through each thing in its visible form.

    An analyst sitting in his chair all day long is more aware of the faintest flickers of arousal in the seat of his sexuality than of the massive discomfort in the same seat brought by the chair: its wrongly built back, its heat-retaining fabric, its resistant upholstery and formaldehyde glue. His animal sense has been trained to notice only one set of proprioceptions to the exclusion of the psychic reality of the chair. A cat knows better.

    Recognition that the soul is also in the world may awaken us from the psychotherapeutic trance in which we pay a hundred dollars for an hour of subjectivism and no more than $19.95 for a beach chair in whose cold metallic arms and plastic lap reflection actually takes place, day after day.

    By accepting the idea that I am the effect of a subtle buffeting between hereditary and societal forces, I reduce myself to a result. The more my life is accounted for by what already occurred in my chromosomes, by what my parents did or didn’t do, and by my early years now long past, the more my biography is the story of a victim.

    Each person enters the world called.

    So long as the statistics of normalizing developmental psychology determine the standards against which the extraordinary complexities of a life are judged, deviations become deviants.

    There is, after all, something quite beautiful about a life. But you would not think so from reading psychology books.

    Neglect of beauty neglects the Goddess, who then has to steal back into the departments as sexual harassment, into the laboratories as “research” experiments with sex and gender, and into the consulting rooms as seductive assignations.

    Psychology has no self-help manual for its own affliction.

    As civilization subsides into its own waste deposits, it doesn’t matter whether you are feminine or masculine or any composite of them. We all dissolve together.

    To plant a foot firmly on earth–that is the ultimate achievement, and a far later stage of growth than anything begun in your head.

    When your child becomes the reason for your life, you have abandoned the invisible reason you are here.

    Do you really believe that humans invented the wheel out of their big brains alone, or fire, or baskets, or tools? Stones rolled downhill; bolts of fire shot from the sky and out of the earth; birds wove and probed and pounded, as did apes and elephants. The sciences that master nature were taught by nature how it could be mastered.

    To what does the soul turn that has no therapists to visit? It takes its trouble to the trees, to the riverbank, to an animal companion, on an aimless walk through the city streets, a long watch of the night sky. Just stare out the window or boil water for a cup of tea. We breathe, expand, and let go, and something comes in from elsewhere. The daimon in the heart seems quietly pleased, preferring melancholy to desperation. It’s in touch.

    The world is run as much by folly as by wisdom, as much by order as by chaos, but–and this “but” is huge–these accidents may still intend something interesting.

    Anyone who rises in a world that worships success should be suspect, for this is an age of psychopathy.

    Academic psychology, in its eagerness to be as scientific as physics, has one-sidedly chosen the “outside,” so that the soul no longer finds a place in the only field dedicated by its very name to its study. Hence, depth psychology has been more or less kept out of the academics of official psychology….depth psychology is the stone the builders of the academy have rejected.

    The soul can become a reality again only when each of us has the courage to take it as the first reality in our own lives, to stand for it and not just “believe” in it.

    It is the immature who are preoccupied with the search for maturity. And is it not typical of adolescence to see growth and creativity in protean images of “becoming”?

    Loving in safety is the smaller part of loving.

    …Psychoanalysis needs more dissidents, more even than Laing and the antipsychiatric movement; it needs its own “terrorists of soul” in the sense of a radical seeing through of its fixed investments in profession–its banks and insurance, its law courts, its palaces of bureaucracy–to return soul to the world.

    Adler died right out in the street. What a powerful blessing.

  • Yes. I have a dream that the future will return a stolen identity to modern slaves, and persecutors will be punished with an eternal stigma of stupidity. Without the proper image of the psyche nothing can be done. I hope Hillman will help people to understand the meaning of the psyche, the stolen meaning and the role of our suffering. I hope one day we will become humans, not biological machines used by the state.I hope so.
    School children should learn about the history of psychiatric abuse.

  • Thank you for this important article.
    I think that Your mother was afraid of the Nazis, because they represented apollonian ego fundamentalism. Materialism in its worse version – Nazi fantasy about wiping out the psyche and pathology. Nazis fantasies about destroying the poetic basis of mind…..Apollonian ego imperialism.

    We must remember that rationalism is just a one kind of perception, it belong’s to apollonian ego materialism. Apollonian ego can’t even built a proper image of the psychological reality. Apollo (rationalism, science) is not the father of human psyche.Zeus/Hades is. Hades represent psychological reality, and we live in the Apollonian ego era…..In the age of the hegemony of rational mind. Psyche is seen as its worst enemy…

    We must see the worth of the psychosis. And rational mind is not able to see it. Psychological mind can. Psychological reality has been destroyed by monism theories (by the age of reason) long time ago. To understand psyche we must go back to romanticism, to the times before Christianity. Because monotheistic man is not able to describe the real nature of the psyche.He is talking about theology an rationalism, all the time.And this is tragedy.

    I highly recommend Hillman’s archetypal psychology to everyone. We must have his knowledge about the long history of wiping out the psyche form human reality. Psychological mind in the age of reason is being destroyed.

    We were born in the age of destruction of everything which is not rational. Our empty egoic culture has destroyed our psychological roots. Nazis represent apollonian ego, and psyche is in their trash bin. Psychiatry is on the same level of rational hatred.

    We are talking about banned identities. We are talking about killing people in the name of rational fundamentalism. We are talking, all the time.

    We should fight.

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    James Hillman on the folly of reducing mind to brain.
    https://footnotes2plato.com/2010/12/14/james-hillman-on-the-folly-of-reducing-mind-to-brain/
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    You and Your mother are heroines.

    James Hillman “Re-Visioning psychology”.
    Heil Psyche!

  • Hillman was an ideological polytheist. In polytheistic society we do not need psychiatry. Because psychiatry is only a form of control in monotheistic kind of society, in which, religion theology and so called rationalism is in the center of thinking. Apollonian ego and spiritualism have banned psyche. The whole Age of Enlightenment have mocked and condemned psyche.
    In psychological hierarchy the real father of human psyche is Hades and Zeus, not Apollo, which means science, brain, ego in the center of the psyche, and we must remember that for apollonians psyche does not exists, because they are materialists and they see only brain and theories of fake illnesses. Hades is their enemy. They and their small rational thinking belongs also to Hades, to psychological reality.

    I mean, psyche need Copernicus, not theology in medical disguise. We need to see the hierarchy in psychological reality, because now, we see only materialism or our thinking is highly theological even if we are atheists. Because monotheism do not need religion. Monotheism is a very simple kind of thinking, which we create for our own comfort, not for seeing the psyche.

    Apollo,as a style of thinking, is too blind, and too psychopathic to rule the mythical imagination.
    In fact, apollonian ego, destroyed the true image of the psyche. Those people are anti psychological fundamentalists and they either reject, or want to rule, the fantasy which is beyond ego control.

    It is very hard to imagine how it would be, to accept our own pathology in society beyond monotheistic simple theories and religion that have rejected psyche long time ago. The word normal is used against human pathology, human psyche. Theology is also against psyche. Generally, people see in their pathology only evil and sin. Because hades ( the heart of psyche)was condemned by monotheistic religion. It is a hidden strategy of controlling people.

    I called it Anneliese Michel paradox. Because psychiatry rejected psychological hades and sees the devil as a real, only because, devil is real for theology. The rest of mythic imagination is not real for monotheistic people.Psychiatry rejected human psyche, because theology rejected human psyche first.

    Theological power or rational power, in medical disguise, have power to reject or regain the human identity. This is hideous crime and sick ideology.
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    These are Hillman’s words about psychotherapy-

    “Hillman: I’m not critical of the people who do psychotherapy. The therapists in the trenches have to face an awful lot of the social, political, and economic failures of capitalism. They have to take care of all the rejects and failures. They are sincere and work hard with very little credit, and the HMOs and the pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies are trying to wipe them out. So certainly I am not attacking them. I am attacking the theories of psychotherapy. You don’t attack the grunts of Vietnam; you blame the theory behind the war. Nobody who fought in that war was at fault. It was the war itself that was at fault. It’s the same thing with psychotherapy. It makes every problem a subjective, inner problem. And that’s not where the problems come from. They come from the environment, the cities, the economy, the racism. They come from architecture, school systems, capitalism, exploitation. They come from many places that psychotherapy does not address. Psychotherapy theory turns it all on you: you are the one who is wrong. What I’m trying to say is that, if a kid is having trouble or is discouraged, the problem is not just inside the kid; it’s also in the system, the society.

    London: You can’t fix the person without fixing the society.

    Hillman: I don’t think so. But I don’t think anything changes until ideas change. The usual American viewpoint is to believe that something is wrong with the person. We approach people the same way we approach our cars. We take the poor kid to a doctor and ask, “What’s wrong with him, how much will it cost, and when can I pick him up?” We can’t change anything until we get some fresh ideas, until we begin to see things differently. My goal is to create a therapy of ideas, to try to bring in new ideas so that we can see the same old problems differently.”

    the rest of interview -http://scott.london/interviews/hillman.html

  • In polytheistic society, it is impossible for psychiatry to survive.Psychiatry would be destroyed by humans for whom their pathology is a value. Now, in spiritual era of egoic psychopats we, as humans, do not even have a roots.

    The problem with monotheistic society is that hey have no guts to deal with death and pathology. The want to believe that death does not exists or that death or illness is an enemy and that psyche and pathology is pure evil.

    So we have an utopia of health ruled by good god which means everything, and on the other side we have evil psyche and somatic illnesses which belongs to satan and hell.

    That is why we do not have a roots. Because we are against our true nature. We are too weak to deal with death and pathology. Society of materialists is a usually a very weak society, in which, power means money. Pathology and illnesses are the main part of life. We have to deal with it. This is real power. To accept death and pathology.And we want to get rid of this part of our nature because of the main need, which is convenient life without so called “problems”. Which are not even a problems to be solved.

    This is Sparta.
    No. This is psyche.

    That is why monotheistic world will be destroyed. Because monotheism have destroyed humanity, first. Human psyche is not evil.Illness is not evil. They are necessities. We do not need health fundamentalism in the place of the truth.

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    We do not need psychiatrists, we need courageous thinking and courageous people.
    We do not need lame psychiatry in the lame monotheistic society. We need psyche in psychological society.
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    We do not need the lame egoic pseudo scientific search for a victims of the psyche.
    We do not need this.

  • Psychiatry is a rotten fruit of monotheistic hatred for psyche. For monotheistic culture of egoic or spiritual psychopaths,human psyche is evil or satan.

    Monotheistic medicine/science is theological hatred in medical disguise. Theology, church and monotheistic culture of saint haters is against psyche.

    James Hillman “Re -Visioning psychology”
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    Monotheistic and dumb science means nothing compared to human psyche.

    Rationalism? Forget about it.
    It is pure religious hatred in medical disguise.

  • We use scientific language only to prove our own convenient thinking.Psyche has got nothing to do with -logy, science and scientific language. Our monotheistic dumb mind needs science. Psyche does not need science. Psyche, pathology is not a problem to solve.

    Psyche, pathology, depression and schizophrenia needs a proper meaning not solutions.

    Science.This type of simplification is unacceptable when it comes to describing the psyche.

    PSYCHE IS NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED.
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    “FINAL SOLUTION”. WE DO NOT NEED IT, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT NAZIS.

    Monotheistic medicine/science is theology in medical disguise. And theology is against psyche.

  • Forget about family and biology. Let’s talk about psyche. Descartes era of biological scientific fanaticism will leave us with nothing else than rotten tissue.

    We all are fooled. Science is just a wealthy garbage of the rich.

    “Soul code” should be obligatory in school.

  • I have read something different –

    “Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.

    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.

    The narrow path is yet more retro, going back to the skill analysis of Franz Josef Gall (M.D., Vienna, 1795), who settled in Paris and was much appreciated by the French. From him came the “evidence” that skull bumps and declivities could be correlated with psychological faculties (a system later called phrenology). Much as they are today, the faculties were given big names, such as memory, judgment, emotionalism, musical and mathematical talent, criminality, and so on. Refinement in methods over the years does not necessarily lead to progress in theorizing: 1795 or 1995–material location, and then reduction of psyche to location, prompts the enterprise.”

    James Hillman “Soul Code”

    Plomin should have read Hillman’s books. But he is a scientist, and scientists know nothing about psyche.
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    Without archetypal psychology scientist will remain small anti human butchers. Apollonian ego arrogance will destroy humanity.

  • Psychiatry do not want the truth about psyche,they want political and economical power over people.

    Normal/ psychological average people do not want to know the truth about their healthy monotheistic psychopathy, they want lies about yours “evil” psychopathology.

    You are the evil they need.
    People like you are their feeding ground.
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    James Hillman “Re-Visioning psychology”
    Thomas Szasz ” Manufacture of madness”
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  • They (the specialists) are talking about mental health fundamentalism all the time.People in hospitals (monotheistic prisons for polytheistic psyche) are those beyond naive mental health assumptions (Desecrates mind+ theology).
    What about them? Why they do not have a right to their own identity?
    Where are people who understand the great meaning, or language, of psychosis, depression ? Where are those who were suppossed to support human pathology? Because we have enough of Desecrates rationalism and christian theology in the place of PSYCHOlogy. They are anti psychological terrorists. Monotheism is the the greatest enemy of the psyche, because monotheistic psychiatry is a theological hatred against psyche.
    Psychiatry sees only sins and shame in psychological reality.

    Mental illness exists only for limited monotheistic mind. For polytheistic mind, pathology does not exists, because for polytheistic mind psyche is not a problem to solve.

  • They are talking about human psyche in medical manner, all the time. This is a disaster.

    James Hillman on the folly of reducing mind to brain.
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    The upshot of genetic studies leads in two (!) directions: a narrow path and a broad one. The narrow road heads toward simplistic, monogenic causes. It wants to pinpoint bits of tissue and correlate them with the vast complexity of psychic meanings. The folly of reducing mind to brain never seems to leave the Western scene. We can never give it up because it is so basic to our Western rationalist and positivist mind-set. The rationalist in the psyche wants to locate causes you can put your hands on and fix.

    Machines provide the best models for meeting this desire. Take them apart, find their inner mechanisms, and then adjust their functioning by modifying their ratchets, enriching their fuel, greasing their connections. Henry Ford as father of American mental health. Result: Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, and dozens of other effective products for internal adjustments that we consume in abundance, millions of us, daily or twice daily. The simplistics of monogenic causes eventually leads to the control of behavior by drugs–that is, to drugged behavior.

    Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.

    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.

    The narrow path is yet more retro, going back to the skill analysis of Franz Josef Gall (M.D., Vienna, 1795), who settled in Paris and was much appreciated by the French. From him came the “evidence” that skull bumps and declivities could be correlated with psychological faculties (a system later called phrenology). Much as they are today, the faculties were given big names, such as memory, judgment, emotionalism, musical and mathematical talent, criminality, and so on. Refinement in methods over the years does not necessarily lead to progress in theorizing: 1795 or 1995–material location, and then reduction of psyche to location, prompts the enterprise.

    The contrary direction to narrowing nature to brain simplistics is expanding nurture to a far more embracing notion of environment. If environment means literally what’s around, it must also mean whatever is around. This because the unconscious psyche selects quite arbitrarily among the stuff encountered every day in the environment. Tiny and trivial bits of information may have huge subliminal psychic effects, as the days’ residues in dreams show. We do dream of the damnedest things! Much of each day is never noticed or recalled, but the psyche picks up the environmental flotsam and delivers it to the dream. The dream–a processing plant recycling the environment, finding soul values in junk. The dream–an artist, appropriating images from the environment for recollection in tranquility.

    Because we walk about in fields of psychic realities that influences our lives, we have to broaden the notion of environment in terms of “deep ecology,” the hypothesis that the planet is a living, breathing, and self-regulating organism. Since anything around can nourish our souls by feeding imagination, there is soul stuff out there. So why not admit, as does deep ecology, that the environment itself is ensouled, animated, inextricably meshed with us and not fundamentally separate from us?

    The ecological vision restores to environment also the classical idea of providentia–that the world provides for us, looks out for us, even looks after us. It wants us around, too. Predators, tornadoes, and blackflies in June are only pieces of the picture. Just think of all that’s delicious and sweet-smelling. Do birds sing but for each other? This breathable, edible, and pleasant planet, invisibly serviced and maintained, keeps us all by means of its life-support system. Such would be an idea of nurture that is truly nurturing.

    “Environment,” then, would be imagined well beyond social and economic conditions, beyond the entire cultural setting, to include every item that takes care of us every day: our tires and coffee cups and door handles and the book you are holding in your hands. It becomes impossible to exclude this bit of environment as irrelevant in favor of that bit as significant, as if we could rank world phenomena in order of importance. Important for whom? Our understanding of importance itself has to change; instead of “important to me,” think of “important to other aspects of the environment.” Does this item nurture what else is around, not merely us who are around? Does it contribute to the intentions of the field of which we are only one short-lived part?

    As notions of environment shift, we notice environment differently. It becomes more and more difficult to make a cut between psyche and world, subject and object, in here and out there. I can no longer be sure whether the psyche is in me or whether I am in the psyche as I am in my dreams, as I am in the moods of the landscapes and the city streets, as I am in “music heard so deeply/That it is not heard at all, but you are the music/While the music lasts” (T.S. Eliot). Where does the environment stop and I begin, and can I begin at all without being in some place, deeply involved in, nurtured by the nature of the world?
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    https://footnotes2plato.com/2010/12/14/james-hillman-on-the-folly-of-reducing-mind-to-brain/

  • Mental health is just a one point on the psychological map. If we want to forget about the important role of the rest of the psyche (pathology), we create apollonian ego (mental health) fundamentalism or maybe some kind of spiritual naive utopia ruled by theology. Because we also confuse theology with psychology.

    Without the real image of the psyche,we will have only pseudo scientific BS.

    We are not able to see the importance and the mechanism of human body or anything else, if we are talking about one finger all the time. This is psychiatry +theological hatred.Because this finger belongs to …satan.

    Without phenomenology of the psyche, we will have theological condemnation (psychiatry) and materialistic (apollonian ego fixation) hatred. We do not deserve it. People deserve to have more important role than being a religious or psychiatric slaves. Psychiatry is materialism. Psychiatric nominalism is capitalism.

    And Hillman writes about it, no one else ever did it. And we should be thankful for people like Hillman.
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    Because James Hillman has taught us how to think, not what to think.
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    Monotheistic culture have taught us how to condemn and hate each other.
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    Without real image of the psyche we will remain blind. We will remain abandoned, like children in the fog.
    Psyche is not a science, it is phenomenology. And we must notice the important role of pathology.This is the first step to homo psychologicus era. The important role of psychological pathology.

    And this is the antichrist. We are.People with psychological awarness. Church does not like psyche very much. XD

    O, and that “growth” model everywhere, we are not cabbage or mushrooms. Cancer is also a mode of growth.

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    https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/487/em-from-em-br-we-ve-had-a-hundred-years-of-psychotherapy-and-the-world-s-getting-worse
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  • Re-visioning of psyche is already made. Monotheism must die.

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    “Re- Visioning psychology” James Hillman.This is our new bible.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eng4OTDqtoM
    Special dedication to psychiatry -11:02

    HEIL PSYCHE.

    Thank you for reading my comments.

  • “Eventually, the young man’s downward spiral resulted in him dousing himself with gasoline and lighting himself on fire, resulting in severe burns over 90% of his body. He lingered near death for six months in a hospital ward before he eventually died.”

    Maybe god will forgive you.

    We are ought to kill toxic psychiatry by reading James Hillman. His books are obligatory to everyone who want to defend psyche. Because he created the real image of the psyche.

  • Inquisitional killers. She was scared of the voices, so they told her that it was her fault, as always. And then she was tortured by drugs. Thank you, apollonian ego arrogants, bastards without humility toward psychological reality, which was banned by materialistic and blind psychiatry, without soul. You f. materialists. Are you happy, now? Are you satisfied enough,now?

    Is she normal enough, for you, now?

    James Hillman “Re -visioning psychology”.
    Heil psyche.

  • Read “Suicide and the soul”. Without this book, you are placing death in the psychiatric hands. Our small ego does not control death or the whole of psychological reality.
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    Death is not the property of your ego . Death is not the property of medicine. Death is not the property of theologians
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    Death belongs to psychological reality. Death belongs to psychological reality which is beyond the control of small ego.
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    We are not the owners of the psyche. Death does not need pity. Death and psyche need to be respected.
    And spiritualists maniacs and materialistic maniacs has gone too far.

    Psyche is the ruler here, not stupid psychiatric judges without brain.

  • Yes, it is religion. We live in society which learn about their psychology form people who hate it, form theologians in scientific disguise.

    That is why I write here about James Hillman books. They are extremely important. Because psyche is not a psychiatric or scientific slave. Psyche is the owner of every kind of perception, of our little ego. Monotheistic religion belongs to monotheistic god. Psyche has nothing in common with monotheistic religion.But people sometimes confuse apollonian ego with Christian spirit.

    Apollonian ego (rationalism, shallowness, unity) is also not a ruler of the psychological reality. Hades is. And Hades was condemned by christianity. Politheistic nature of our psyche was condemned by religious people. By spiritual fundamentalists.
    We are talking about metaphors.

    Our science is based on spiritual assumptions. Because spirit is shallow and easy. Psyche is complex, sometimes ruthless and demanding.We do not need psychiatrists and their fixation on spirituality or on apollonian ego hegemony. We need wisdom and courage.

    I see mentally ill people as psychological titans, and what they are doing is psychological work. Apollonian ego perception is just too stupid and too simple to be a ruler of the psyche. We are talking about psychological reality, death. For monotheistic people, psyche is the main enemy, evil or hell.
    And this is a disaster.

    James Hillman “Re -Visioning psychology” and “Suicide and the soul”.

  • They want to control everything and they do not need wisdom to do it. All they need is power. Psychiatry is fearsome.

    Psychiatric perception does not see any signs of beauty in psyche.So psychological awareness today is also ugly, because it is created by ugly eye of monotheistic man.And that man is a enemy of beauty, imagination and so on.

    James Hillman – “Kinds of Power”-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSw9djJ177I

  • We should talk abouts psyche in psychological language. Science is for scientists. Psychology is for psyche.
    Monotheistic thinking is a danger for polytheistic psyche.
    We are using pseudo scientific language to confirm the theological assumptions about psyche. This is a tragedy. Thanks for this article.

    Biological thinking about psyche means nothing without seeing the individual image of psychological reality. Without seeing the individual patterns of thinking, individual psychological reality, biological theories are only a way of destruction, a way of control or a way of dehumanization.

    James Hillman “Re- Visioning psychology”.

  • I believe in psyche, not in drugs or psychiatry. Without the proper image of the psyche, people will think that psyche is some kind of brain illness. For monotheistic psychiatry, drugs are used, as a crucifix for a satan. The believe that psyche is some kind of demonic power. Psychiatry is Van Helsing and your psyche is a monster for them.

    The problem is that psychiatry believes in drugs and mental health (apollonian ego fundamentalism). PSYCHiatry without psyche is a sin against humanity. Psychopathology is an enemy for their theological or rational believes. And psyche is not something which can be measured by science/ empiricism or theology. We should create the proper image of the psyche.

    James Hillman ,”Re-Visioning psychology”

    Mental health is just one of many kinds of perception.

  • We live in the monotheistic reality of one god and spiritualism, but psyche/soul is something which belongs to polytheistic reality. Psyche is a slave of monotheistic fundamentalists. Psyche has got no real image. So how can we have a voice? We don’t have a liberty, because we do not have a right to psychology beyond apollonian ego. Pathology, psychological pathology is an enemy of theological mind. Psyche is now a Satan. Psyche will be an antichrist. For psychiatry, the psyche is Satan. I know it is hard to believe, but even our science our philosophy, our psychology belongs to monotheistic god.

    James Hillman “Re -Visioning psychology”.

    We must be aware of the differences between theological and psychological mind. Spiritualism,materialism/brain is not a psychology.

    Psychology is not a science, it is a form of polytheistic awareness. And our thinking is monotheistic, governed by theology. Psychiatry is a monotheistic fundamentalism, for which, polytheistic psyche is the enemy. Psychiatry is a religious hatred with scientific pretensions. We must know about facts that are hidden.

  • Suicide is not a choice, it is a psychological necessity.

    “Death then is the cure and the salvation and not
    just a last, worst stage of a disease. The cock-crow at dawn
    also heralds resurrection of the light. But the victory over
    disease and the new day begins only when the ambition
    for it has been abandoned upon the altar. The disease
    which ttte experience of death cures is the rage to live.
    This disease is phrased best in the medical-statistical
    term ‘life-expectancy’. Hoping, ‘expecting with desire’,
    is justified statistically; one has the right to a certain
    quantity of life. This hope tends to entangle physician
    and patient in hoping for the wrong thing. They hope for
    more of the life that is already known, that is, for the past.
    Hope of this kind is hardly for salvation or even for new
    beginnings. It is regressive because it prevents the challenge of death. It is egotistic because it asks for more of what one was. This is hardly the hope Paul describes
    which is not seen and where ‘getting better’ would mean a
    quality of being, not an approach to the normal. One is
    led to believe that the desire to be free from illness means
    in truth to return to what one was before the illness, to the
    status quo ante. When the physician joins the patient in
    hoping to restore or return him to health with a speedy recovery, they move against the flow of time, the process of ageing, and the reality of death. Their joint hope denies
    the morbidity of all life. ”

    http://www.pnsja.com/documents/hillmansuicideandthesoul.pdf

  • Apollonian ego fundamentalism is the main sickness. Rationalism and theology/religion in medical disguise. Where is psychology? We need the real image of the psyche. Because we do not even know about what we are talking about.

    We need “Re-Visioning psychology”,psyche is a mythic imagination. We need Jung and Hillman not false empiricism and biological model of psyche. Psychiatry is psychopathy.We do not control psyche.Our small ego participate in it. We are imagined by things we do not control, that is why we need phenomenology of the psyche, not science. We need to learn to accept psychological truths, and now all we have is theology (rationalism materialism) which condemned the real human psyche. And apollonian ego thinks that psyche is a mental illness, not psychological truth.

    Psyche is a mythic imagination, not science/ false empiricism. That imagination is not a property of our small arrogant ego or science.

    Psyche is a mythic imagination.Psychiatric imagination is apollonian ego fundamentalism (rationalism, theology) and psychiatry without psyche is a form of stubborn stupidity. We can’t have psychology on the left, and psychiatry without psychology on the right side.

    We do not have psychology. We have egology. We think that psychological reality belongs to small apollonian ego.

    We are wrong.

  • Well. Society which collaborates with psychiatry is useless form of egoic nation. No future, no past. Just technology money and nothing more. Where economy is the main power, psychiatry is a king and human being means nothing. Ivan Illich, Szasz writes about the sad fact that there is no escape from society, from ruthless norms, only through suicide.
    So when , economy is enough for you, and you are a great member of apollonic tribe. World is yours. And you have psychiatry to kill your enemies. A great institution for killing real people.
    For me, normal people are privileged people and they are those who never fight against biological psychiatry to defend others, because they are actually using psychiatry against the others…. They do not want to read Szasz, Hillman or listen to victims of the psychiatry. So.

    They have already chosen their side.

    I do not think that victims of the psychiatric dehumanization would like to socialize with their almost killers.They are like Frodo. They have enough, they are tired. So f. tired.

  • Monotheistic psychology sees only evil, not the real psyche. It is because of the fixation over the utopia of wholeness. Schizophrenia is when your ego is beyond rational simple level. Brain cannot cope with that reality, it is too much for the mind and the brain. We have no control over the psyche, our ego is being controlled by psyche. We need the phenomenology of the psyche, not psychiatric ego fixation.
    https://books.google.pl/books?id=GWHfAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT49&lpg=PT49&dq=schizophrenia+james+hillman&source=bl&ots=mrJiGS4IJp&sig=ACfU3U0DcQ-JHJFmPf0am9gFh95WzrWQEg&hl=pl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_vYvCtfriAhWE2aQKHfjdAwc4ChDoATAJegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=schizophrenia%20james%20hillman&f=false

  • Hillman was not a victim of psychiatry ,but he was not also an escapist. He was a phenomenologist. Yes, I do agree he was not a fighter, however he had troubles with publishing his books.

    His “Suicide and the soul” and “Re-visioning psychology, are the foundations of human psychology. Without these books, we remain blind to psyche, because our thinking about psychology is totally theological. We are not aware of that fact. I was not either.

  • James Hillman on the folly of reducing mind to brain.

    From The Soul’s Code by James Hillman, p. 150-154:

    The upshot of genetic studies leads in two (!) directions: a narrow path and a broad one. The narrow road heads toward simplistic, monogenic causes. It wants to pinpoint bits of tissue and correlate them with the vast complexity of psychic meanings. The folly of reducing mind to brain never seems to leave the Western scene. We can never give it up because it is so basic to our Western rationalist and positivist mind-set. The rationalist in the psyche wants to locate causes you can put your hands on and fix.

    Machines provide the best models for meeting this desire. Take them apart, find their inner mechanisms, and then adjust their functioning by modifying their ratchets, enriching their fuel, greasing their connections. Henry Ford as father of American mental health. Result: Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, and dozens of other effective products for internal adjustments that we consume in abundance, millions of us, daily or twice daily. The simplistics of monogenic causes eventually leads to the control of behavior by drugs–that is, to drugged behavior.

    Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.

    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.

    The narrow path is yet more retro, going back to the skill analysis of Franz Josef Gall (M.D., Vienna, 1795), who settled in Paris and was much appreciated by the French. From him came the “evidence” that skull bumps and declivities could be correlated with psychological faculties (a system later called phrenology). Much as they are today, the faculties were given big names, such as memory, judgment, emotionalism, musical and mathematical talent, criminality, and so on. Refinement in methods over the years does not necessarily lead to progress in theorizing: 1795 or 1995–material location, and then reduction of psyche to location, prompts the enterprise.

    https://footnotes2plato.com/2010/12/14/james-hillman-on-the-folly-of-reducing-mind-to-brain/

  • James Hillman is the only one man alive who knows what lies beyond an empty psychiatric nominalism/jargon.
    Read his revision of psychology, so you will know. It is worth to know the real meaning of depression, psychosis, all the psyche. The psychological, phenomenological meaning. We just do not know about this, because that knowledge is hidden. Psyche has been stolen form us.

    It is all about the language that we are using. The better language we have, the better we are.

    “Depression is still the Great Enemy. More personal energy is expended in manic defenses against, diversions from, and denials of it than goes into other supposed psychopathological threats to society: psychopathic criminality, schizoid breakdown, addictions. As long as we are caught in cycles of hoping against despair, each productive of the other, as long as our actions in regard to depression are resurrective, implying that being down and staying down is sin, we remain Christian in psychology.

    Yet through depression we enter depths and in depth find soul. Depression is essential to the tragic sense of life. It moistens the dry soul, and dries the wet. It brings refuge, limitation, focus, gravity, weight, and humble powerlessness. It reminds of death. The true revolution begins in the individual who can be true to his or her depression. Neither jerking oneself out of it, caught in cycles of hope and despair, nor suffering through it till it turns, nor theologizing it — but discovering the consciousness and depths it wants. So begins the revolution on behalf of soul.”

    https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/18521.James_Hillman

    James Hillman

    Psychiatric jargon is useless and it is a weapon against psychology. DSM is just a form of demonization or condemntaion of the psychological reality.

  • James Hillman on “biological psyche”-

    “Robert Plomin, on whose passionate, prolific, and perceptive writings this chapter has frequently relied, urgently warns against using genetics in a simplistic manner. He states: “Genetic effects on behavior are polygenic and probabilistic, not single gene and deterministic.” I gather from him a warning to psychiatry: Do not capsize your noble vessel under the weight of pharmaceutical, insurance company, and government gold, and do not set your compass toward Fantasy Island, where genetics will define “disease entities in psychiatry.” “We have learned little about the genetics of development [how genes act and interact over time] except to appreciate its complexity.” Therefore we can never arrive at that equation where one defective gene equals one clinical picture (except for true anomalies like Huntington’s chorea).

    These warnings have little effect; simplistic thinking fulfills too many wishes. The heads of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are carved into the Mount Rushmore of the mind. The monster of mechanism appears in every century of modern Western history and must be watched for by each generation–especially ours, when to hold out for “something else” besides nature or nurture means believing in ghosts or magic.

    Ever since French rationalism of the seventeenth (Marin Mersenne, Nicolas de Malebranche) and eighteenth (Etienne de Condillac, Julien Offroy de La Mettrie) centuries and right through to the positivism of the nineteenth (Antoine Destutt de Tracy, Auguste Comte) in which all mental events were reduced to biology, a piece of the collective Western mind had been yolked like a dumb ox to the heavy tumbrel of French mechanistic materialism. It is astounding how people with such subtle taste as the French and with such erotic sensibility can go on and on contributing so much rationalist rigor mortis to psychology. Every import that arrives from France must be inspected for this French disease, even though it carries the fashionable label of Lacanism, Structuralism, Deconstruction, or whatever.

    Today rationalism is global, computer-compatible every-where. It is the international style of the mind’s architecture. We cannot pin it to a particular flag, unless to the banners of the multinational corporation that can spend big bucks turning psychiatry, and eventually psychological thinking, and therefore soul control, toward monogenetic monotheism. One gene for one disorder: Splice the gene, teach it tricks, combine it, and the disorder is gone, or at least you don’t know you have it. The narrow path leads back to the thirties and forties of psychiatric history, though in a more refined manner and with better press releases. From 1930 into the 1950s, correlating specific brain areas with large emotional and functional concepts provided the rationale for the violence of psychosurgery and the lobotomizing of many a troubled soul at odds with circumstance.

    The narrow path is yet more retro, going back to the skill analysis of Franz Josef Gall (M.D., Vienna, 1795), who settled in Paris and was much appreciated by the French. From him came the “evidence” that skull bumps and declivities could be correlated with psychological faculties (a system later called phrenology). Much as they are today, the faculties were given big names, such as memory, judgment, emotionalism, musical and mathematical talent, criminality, and so on. Refinement in methods over the years does not necessarily lead to progress in theorizing: 1795 or 1995–material location, and then reduction of psyche to location, prompts the enterprise.

    The contrary direction to narrowing nature to brain simplistics is expanding nurture to a far more embracing notion of environment. If environment means literally what’s around, it must also mean whatever is around. This because the unconscious psyche selects quite arbitrarily among the stuff encountered every day in the environment. Tiny and trivial bits of information may have huge subliminal psychic effects, as the days’ residues in dreams show. We do dream of the damnedest things! Much of each day is never noticed or recalled, but the psyche picks up the environmental flotsam and delivers it to the dream. The dream–a processing plant recycling the environment, finding soul values in junk. The dream–an artist, appropriating images from the environment for recollection in tranquility.”

    James Hillman

  • Academic psychology, in its eagerness to be as scientific as physics, has one-sidedly chosen the “outside,” so that the soul no longer finds a place in the only field dedicated by its very name to its study. Hence, depth psychology has been more or less kept out of the academics of official psychology….depth psychology is the stone the builders of the academy have rejected.

    There is, after all, something quite beautiful about a life. But you would not think so from reading psychology books.

    Now when therapy decides to cure the pathology, instead of seeing that the pathology is part of the crack or the broken window, and that something is trying to get in, then it seems to me it’s creating more pathology and keeping the Gods even further away. And then they break in through the whole fucking society.

    So long as the statistics of normalizing developmental psychology determine the standards against which the extraordinary complexities of a life are judged, deviations become deviants.

    Instead of adventuring forward to explore and research unknown territory, control fights a rearguard action, keeping inventory of what has already happened. It likes complete reports. Control, for all its self-assured position of command, relies on a defensive vision, and the traits enumerated–enforced loyalty, exactitude, suspicion of the hidden, watchfulness–are paranoid traits.
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    James Hillman

  • Without Hillman’s phenomenology, Szaszz critique means nothing. Szasz did not write about the nature of psyche. Szasz was a nihilist and Laing was a transcendentalist. Hillman created the proper image of the psychological reality and he is the only one who did it.

  • Madness, mental health, mental illness, genius, talent. Those words are weapons in the mouth of apollonian idiot for whom ego in apollonian archetype and theology of the brain is in the center of the psychological world. They are using empty words without proper meaning in completely false context.

    How can it be that someone like Plath was tortured by someone like psychiatrist?
    Very high language was always attacked by psychiatric jargon and poets were attacked by apollonian fundamnetalists.

    Psychiatric jargon is a cancer of the real human language. And only Hillman knew it.

    Why psychiatry is attacking poets? Because psychiatry means apollonian ego fundamnetalism, and poets represent psyche, psychopathology. That is why.
    BECAUSE POETS REPRESENT THE REALITY OF DEATH IN FAKE THEOLOGICAL NAIVE SOCIETY IN WHICH DEATH IS A SIN AGAINST GOD. And death is still a dangerous satan for theological psychiatry.
    If you represent real human psyche in society of naive spiritual fundamentalists they will kill you in the name of health (theological naivety).

    To recover means to resurrect. And resurrection is a spiritual claim.

    And only James Hillman noticed it.
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    Poets and their high language represent psyche, death, and psychiatric jargon represent impaired reality of apollonian fundamentalists, for whom death and psyche does not exists.
    You must have extremely strong balls to lose with the state like victims of the psychiatry. Because there are no winners anyway, there are only obedient slaves who thinks they win.
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  • “In the history of the treatment of depression, there was the dunking stool, purging of the bowels of black bile, hoses, attempts to shock the patient. All of these represent hatred or aggression towards what depression represents in the patient.”
    James Hillman

    I’m in favor of destruction, aggression, hating things. Not bearing things anymore. We think the breakdown comes because our life is in bad shape. But maybe the ideas cause the disorder. Something tries to break through and causes the disorder.”
    James Hillman

    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/james_hillman

  • “Do you see the complete harmony between central dictatorship, fascism, political callousness, and the self-centeredness of the spiritual point of view?”

    “The word “normal” comes from the Greek norma, which was a carpenter’s square, that right-angled tool for establishing straightness.”

    “Psychoanalysis has to get out of the consulting room and analyze all kinds of things. You have to see that the buildings are anorexic, you have to see that the language is schizogenic, that “normalcy” is manic, and medicine and business are paranoid.”

    “My practice tells me I can no longer distinguish clearly between neurosis of self and neurosis of world, psychopathology of self and psychopathology of world. Moreover, it tells me that to place neurosis and psychopathology solely in personal reality is a delusional repression of what is actually, realistically, being experienced.”

    James Hillman
    http://www.terrapsych.com/hillman.html

  • What strikes me, is that he was so famous, and no one even have noticed that he was almost destroyed by psychiatry. Hemingway Plath and many others were also tortured by psychiatry. But for people who do not give shit about that fact, they were just poor bad luck people who apparently deserved it. Because of their “mental illness”.

    I can’t stand the things that pro psychiatric people are thinking about human psyche. They are like psychopaths. And people who are aware of how dangerous psychiatry is, are so alone.
    So brave and so alone. Because the truth does not have many friends.

  • The main goal of psychiatry was to build the proper image of the psyche, not to get rid of the psyche. Drugs were to help in dealing with psychosis, not to destroy the essence of psychosis.

    Psychiatry is the biggest enemy of the psyche. They hate everything that is not material and does not involve making money. Because it is a calculating soulless child of lies and mammon. Psychiatry have destroyed the essence of the psyche.

    They are not intrested in the reality of the psyche, they can’t see the need or psychological value of psychosis or depression. For them psyche is just pure evil. They just want to destroy it in the name of theological or materialistic negation.Sometimes when I think about differences between psyche and the coarse reality of apollonic/spiritual negation I wonder when this all will collapse. Because they have gone too far with destroying the proper image of psychological reality.

    Why, you, authoritarians,hate psyche so much? Because of fear? Or because non material reality is still satan for you?

  • Thank You for this important article. Hemingway, Plath, especially poets, were terrorized by psychiatric monotheism. Because monotheistic anti human scientism have killed metaphor first. Nazis party and their anti human utopian ideology is the source of the greatest evil today.

    The roots of psychiatric slavery = psychological monotheism. Monotheism is a form of a very destructive and limited thinking.

    https://medium.com/re-visioning-religion/the-literalization-of-monotheism-3ec380425033

    “This idealized unity requires for its earthly realization, an ideal man, the Hero, who can receive the (divine) commands and overcome in his own person and at large, the obstacles that stand in the way. These obstacles must also have a mythic dimension. Whether the story is retold in an Islamic, Christian, Jewish or Hindu setting, some dragon of dangerous strength must have its head chopped off, traitors everywhere must be sought out and eliminated since, ‘you are either with us, or against us’. The Marxists, therefore, require(d) the Capitalists, the Western Powers their Communist threat and more recently, Muslims, who in turn, require the Great Satan and their own heretics. In sum, the heroic requires problems and, by implication, Final Solutions.

    Similarly, psychological monotheism tends to regard difference and diversity as irreconcilable opposites and reduces all psychological life to moral issues. Particularly in the light of the impossible-to-resolve ‘Problem of Evil’ in Christianism, this kind of moral reductionism and its fusion with the heroic archetype, provides the justification for all types of action and violence against whatever seems ‘outside,’ a prescribed idea of ‘unity’. Thus, Jung’s view of the West’s ‘monotheism of consciousness’ is directly related to the internalizing of a particular type of Christianity. As both he and Hillman reiterate, it does not matter if one is a Christian or not, ‘believer’ or atheist. Rather, it is a particularly narrow psychological attitude towards self, others, religion, knowledge, in short, life itself.

    James Hillman “Re -Visioning psychology”
    Thomas Szasz – “Manufacture of madness”

    Everything should be clear after reading these books.
    Psychopathology is a metaphor, the form of the highest psychological art. And authoritarians and their small brains are destroying people in the name of their lame materialistic and convenient fantasy about mental health – apollonian – hegemony.

    The problem is the limited monotheistic psychology, not the human psyche.

  • Human Psyche should have authority, but psyche is illegal. Because we have illusions of spirituality in the place of psychology. That is why we should all read James Hillman. Because he have noticed it.
    Without psychopathology life would be an illusion. Without illnesses, our health means nothing.

  • Yes, but authoritarian mind, apollonian mind is too stupid to use empathy or phenomenology, they want to use scientific BS for money and for expand apollonian ego over the rest of the psyche. Psychology never was, and never will be a science. And scientific approach to psyche is like scientific attitude to love. It is useless, it is non human. Biology depend on individual psyche, on the level. And we could see what is happening when ego lose contact with apollonian, rational easy level – for example Anneliese Michel. For psychiatry satan is real, but human psyche means nothing. And that are inquisitional roots.

    And when we are using drugs or whatever to help ourselves, we must stay true to psychological truths behind our medication. We are using drugs, because depression is a real psychological hardship, not because we think it is a medical illness, or, because we want to condemn depression, because of theological negation and so on.

    Psychiatry do not want to stay true to psyche, to depression or to suferring. The want to eradicate these states, because of theological spiritual illusions. Psychiatry is to undermine credibility of the human psyche, because of monotheistic claims.

    THEY WANT TO “CURE” DEPRESSION, BECAUSE THEY HATE IT. AND BECAUSE OF THEOLOGICAL NEGATION.
    PSYCHE IS SATAN FOR CHRISTIANS.

    The language is the key. Psychiatric jargon is a dead language. Hillman’s language is alive.

  • “The insistence on psychological singularity is a kind of implicit ideology, supplying images and appropriate feelings about them, creating a fantasy of what it means to be ‘a people’. And this major archetype, of an essentially one dimensional ‘god’ brings with it its compatible and fellow archetypes. For instance, One Lord is accompanied by One faith (orthodoxy/modernism), One Law (shariah/WTO), One State (dar-ul-Islam/globalization), served by One body of the faithful (ummah/consumers). A beautiful evocation of the ideal totalitarian (and paranoid) society.”

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    “This idealized unity requires for its earthly realization, an ideal man, the Hero, who can receive the (divine) commands and overcome in his own person and at large, the obstacles that stand in the way. These obstacles must also have a mythic dimension. Whether the story is retold in an Islamic, Christian, Jewish or Hindu setting, some dragon of dangerous strength must have its head chopped off, traitors everywhere must be sought out and eliminated since, ‘you are either with us, or against us’. ”
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  • Anti psychological monotheism.
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    https://medium.com/re-visioning-religion/the-literalization-of-monotheism-3ec380425033

    “I equate Christianism with moralistic fundamentalism … you have to face this level of Christianism because that is where its world conquering force lies. It’s not Christian love that’s conquered the world … not its sophisticated interpretations and theology. It’s successful because it mobilizes the will, and the will needs fundamentalism or it does not know what to do …[it is] utterly monotheistic … there is only one meaning, one reading of the text, for instance, the one meaning of Christ’s suffering.[2]”

    James Hillman

    “Similarly, psychological monotheism tends to regard difference and diversity as irreconcilable opposites and reduces all psychological life to moral issues. Particularly in the light of the impossible-to-resolve ‘Problem of Evil’ in Christianism, this kind of moral reductionism and its fusion with the heroic archetype, provides the justification for all types of action and violence against whatever seems ‘outside,’ a prescribed idea of ‘unity’. Thus, Jung’s view of the West’s ‘monotheism of consciousness’ is directly related to the internalizing of a particular type of Christianity. As both he and Hillman reiterate, it does not matter if one is a Christian or not, ‘believer’ or atheist. Rather, it is a particularly narrow psychological attitude towards self, others, religion, knowledge, in short, life itself.”
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    “In contrast to the reality of a ‘polytheistic’ psyche, psychological monotheism refers to a literal attitude towards psychological, that is, symbolic events, in which, through a self-reflexive moral reductionism, one vision overwhelms all others, swallowing them in an attempt to extend itself and create ‘unity’. The tendency towards literalization and moral reductionism is peculiar to Christianism…”
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  • The lens of the psyche.
    The lens of the polytheistic imagination.
    Psyche is too complex, this is not spirit religion or Jungian theological fantasy about union. Psyche was destroyed by religion and materialism, by ideology of monotheism. Psychiatry uses pseudo science against psyche, to prove theological beliefs in medical disguise. We don’t have human psychology, we have religion and spirituality or economy and politics in the place of real psychology. Psyche needs Copernicus not medicine.

    James Hillman. “Re – Visioning psychology”.

  • No one represent psyche, only those called insane and this is sad. One of the greatest defender of psyche was James Hillman, and he also was rejected like those called mentally ill. He was one of them. We are rejected by stupid people, we should be proud.

    Thank you for your wisdom, Mr. Hickey. You are a great thinker too, but they will reject you. They will reject you the same way, Tesla or Hillman were rejected by money makers.

    Anti psychiatry is for wise people, not for convenient common minds.

  • Psychological polytheism is not a religion. It is a metaphorical description of our psychological reality.
    Monotheism is religion and fixation also. Psychiatry is a form of monotheistic fundamentalism with pretensions to science, however roots of psychiatry are strictly theological. Psychiatry is a weapon of god against human psyche, which was confused with hell or satan and evil. Which is disaster for psychological man.

  • Yes it is. Schizophrenia is a right for those who are privileged enough to destroy you. Schizophrenia should be a neutral description of the condition. Only a place on a psychological map. The problem is that language and the real image of the psychological reality does not exists. It was destroyed by spiritualists and materialists. The confuse religion or brain theories with psychological reality.

    When ego is on apollonian shallow level of the psyche you are mentally health. You are convinced that control over psyche belongs to you, this is only illusion,… very practical illusion, indeed. When ego goes deeper into strict psychological reality, psyche takes over the control over ego, and then they will blame your brain for that, because it is seen as illegal… There supposed to be Hades, there. But, like I said, that reality does not exists, because Jesus “saves us from it” and christians have called it hell, and then people confused psyche with evil..

    Thanks to Jesus and his spiritual utopia, schizophrenics now are living in closed illegal and sealed coffin.
    Religion banned psychological polytheism and so on. Psyche and gods has nothing to do with religion or prayers, they were only symbols of non material reality. Hades/Zeus is the father of the psyche. But now we have apollonian hegemony of rationalism or rather rationazism, fixation of control, scientific BS, brain theories of mental illness.

    The ship with apollo in control will sink, it is only question of time. Psychological forces are supplanted and stuffed in a small, tight prison box. They will explode and probably California will sink. Europe will sink in the ocean or something. Because of APA, because of apollonian ego fundamentalism.

  • I am pro panthers of any kind. Great site. Normal people should learn to think, because psychiatry is an evidence that normal people left thinking to those called mentally ill. Apollonian ego curse. James Hillman was a great thinker, he was trying to teach people how to think, not what to think about depression and so on.

    We should focus on phenomenology of things rather than searching for fake solutions, because of false empiricism.We need truth and courage not cowardice or childish theological demonization of death, suicide, suffering. We need bravery and maturity not fake solutions from cowards.

  • Yes I am ironic. Wisdom means nothing today. Mental health is not equall to wisdom, psychiatry has nothing in common with wisdom. Because people are not interested in wisdom. They want power and money. That is why empaths or psychological men are losing with them. They are losing because they means more than matter. Generally speaking, this is main reason why psychological man is terrorized. He means more than people who believe in easy things. Because when you are easy or simple it means also you can survive, because you are enough blind to do it. Survival is so plain that only simple people can do it. Psychological man can’t. because he collides with the reality of death. And then he realizes that apollonians and normal are antipsychological idiots and they want to lock you up, because you are destroying their utopia.

  • “The end of clinical treatment is cure. The process comes to a fruit and all medical measures are stages towards this fulfillment. Consciousness, however, as far as we can read the evidence, comes to no definite goal, no final fruition, but is is a continuous in-going process.
    An analysts who has a notion of cure as a goal of his work is thinking medically. He has not grasped the nature of the complex, the basis of analythical process. There are no antidotes for complexes. The cannot be cured away because complexes are not causes, though they be the determinants of psychic life. A medical model tends to conceive them like a wounds or traumata. or as malignants growths and foreign bodies to be removed in the medical manner.
    But if complexes are energetic centers, the cannot be “cured” without damaging the vitality of the patient.

    Health requires death.

    If lay means unprofessional, then lay means open.

    IF THE PATIENT IS THE DISEASE, GETTING RID MEANS A DESTRUCTIVE REJECTION OF THE PATIENT.”

    JAMES HILLMAN

  • Death is equal to the truth, so psychological man is someone who is the most real kind of man.

    And apollonians and spiritualists are the most fake ones. Their imagination is a form of an opium, thanks that opium they are blind to psychological reality, so they can be as easy as biological machines they create on their own image.

    Titans means more than any kind of religion or materialism. They are the anchors of the human psyche, and psychiatry is a open -air museum for the super blind. Psychological function is psychological function, not material or spiritual one.

  • For psychological reality spiritual growth is only an infantile illusion. For spiritualists psychological reality is equal to theological hell, that is why they can’t see the real meaning of the psyche. And that is why psychology does not exists. Because the real psychology is psychology of the death or phenomenology of the death. And this kind of psychology does not exists, because christianity, religion, spiritualism conquered death/psychological reality. And that is why mental illness is not a part of life, because psyche is not part of life anymore. We have only infantile spiritual assumptions which are equal to theology, and psychiatry is their child.

    So, when one is telling you that you are pathological and mentally ill, that’s mean that he himself is in theological/legal archetype and that he is privileged and you are not.
    Our psyche is something which was destroyed by religion and materialism (apollonian ego). Spiritualists and apollonians are beyond psychological reality.

    We need psychological titans. Because thanks them spiritualists and materialists can exists in their incredibly shallow archetypes. They need roots, and psychological man, like autistics or schizophrenics represents their roots. This is phenomenology and it was destroyed by authoritarianism/materialism religion and so on.

    Psychology, the real psychology, has nothing to do with nowadays humanistic psychology, nowadays psychiatry or spiritualism.

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    Schizophrenics, autistics are destroyed by the state for reasons of ideological negation. Mainly because psychiatry is using theological not psychological assumptions.
    Psychological men should be the most privileged people in the state. But the state of materialists is for biological machines ruled by medicine and rich people not for psychological man.
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    Schizophrenia, depression, autism are the main functions of the psyche. But psychiatry is using theology which means they have send human psyche to hell. And now those states are equal to secular condemnation. And mental health is secular state of grace.
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    James Hillman Re – Visioning psychology.

  • Depression is the problem, because depression is not a part of life anymore. It is because we have theological psychology. Long time ago christianity conquered psyche and religion destroyed its proper image. Spiritualists have their churches, egoical people have their believe in science and psychological man have shit. Because psyche is connected with death and polytheism, and death was condemned by monotheistic god.
    The problem is that death is in the center of psyche. In the center of polytheism.

    Our complex polytheistic psychological life was conquered by monotheistic infantile religion/theology.

    Without theological/religious claims toward psyche in the past, we would not have mental illness today. We would have human psyche.
    The problem is not that depression exists or that people commit suicide. The problem is that religion/theology condemned death and human psyche.
    And psychiatry is the child of theological negation, with scientific pretensions.

  • “sent”, sorry.Psychiatry is theology in medical disguise. Normal people belongs psychologically to the assumptions of monotheism. And they represent nothing more than monotheism. Religious monotheism is a small cage imposed on the polytheistic nature of human psyche.

    Psychological reality do not belong to the limited and strict materialistic third dimension. Psychological men represent something more than normalcy, so they are rejected. Religion and normalcy are something less than psyche (psychopathology) but still they want to control something which means more then they themselves.

    We must learn to read the life of people like Anneliese Michel in psychological way. Because psychiatry is sabotaged by theology and therefore remains blind on human psyche. We must see the psychological meaning.
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    We must give back the psychological meaning to people who were betrayed or killed by pseudo science ruled by theology.

    Because they were deprived of the human identity.
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    The sick relationship between psychiatry and theology is a betrayal of the psyche.

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    James Hillman, Re – Visioning psychology.

  • The truth is the proper answer to false empiricism.

    James Hillman (“Re- Visioning psychology””Suicide and the soul”), Szasz (Manufacture of madness), Breggin, Whitaker. We already have answers, but no one want to know the truth. Society do not want to know the truth about psyche, they prefer convenient lies.Like theology or spiritualism in the place of psychological reality.

    We do not want to know the psyche, we want psychiatry. Because psyche is everything that is beyond the interests of spiritualists or materialists.

    Psychiatry has more than 10.000.000 victims (more than Holocaust) but we still want to “cure” people rather to accept the psychological reality. Grow up, please. Grow up and try to face the truth about psychological reality. This is not religion, this is not materialism.

    We must rebuild the proper image of the psyche, because it was destroyed by materialists and their convenient believes. Theology is not psychology and psychiatry still is a theology in medical disguise or materialistic believe that apollonic perception is in the center of the psyche. In the center of psychopathology are autistics and schizophrenics, not normal people, not apollonians. The rest, including depressed people, belongs to apollonic perception. Which is highly antipsychological, because those people are beyond psychological reality and they do not believe in other perception than their own. They are EGOists.

  • If anyone here wants to know anything about human psyche. …
    I am not able to say everything in just one post, I can only leave the correct address. Wisdom is everything, and psychiatry is just a nowadays form of inquisition.
    Do not forget that psychiatry has no connections with wisdom and the original nature of the psyche. Death has,human psyche has, but authoritarians are far away from it. I have in my ass everything which they have to say about psyche. They are using the wrong language. Well, psyche odes not exists for them. Corrupt murderers traitors and liars. Crazy apollonians.

    “Re- Visioning psychology”. James Hillman

    I have also a song for psychiatrists RESISTANT to wisdom.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJuXKeiM4_0

    Heil Psyche. By bye psychiatry.

    You are using the wrong language, and false empiricism for describing psychological reality. And you have no idea what psyche is.

  • Naturally privileged people demand impossible, inaccessible things from discriminated minorities. They themselves have never been in their situation. They rob other people of the right to identity, because it is easy for them to live.This sad fact, this lack of empathy gives them power.

    This is the natural thinness that does not require torturing with diets. This is mental health (apollonian ego archetype), which costs nothing.

    James Hillman, “Re- Visioning psychology.”

  • Obese people are perceived in a wrong way, knowledge about fitness is also full of BS. Psychiatry is full of lies too.

    They will tell you that 10 minutes of exercises, like crunches, for example, will make your Abs visible. They won’t tell you that your muscles will push out the fat tissue and you will look fatter than before.Usually woman have 30-32 % of fat tissue, which is normal. For Abs to be visible, you need to have only 19% fat tissue, including having less than the correct weight. And this is just an example.

    There are people who will tell you the truth, about weight or psychiatry. No one likes them, because no one likes the truth.
    So no one likes Szasz, Breggin, Hillman , or this article —

    https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

    Victims of lies usually know the truth, so they become enemies.

  • People with diagnosis are terrorized by orthorexics fanatics. Yes, go and exercise for three hours because you have “schizophrenia”.

    Like I said, mentally health means privileged in empty material reality of apollonic destruction. For progress of psyche their shallow attitude toward reality means nothing.

    Apollonians are psychologically blind and they want to drive your car.

  • “Everything you know about obesity is wrong”. Great article.
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    Szasz saw also connections between mental health and thinness. Those people are privileged. The are using their innate traits to have power over those who are beyond their theories about normalcy. They were never those beyond their own empty measurement.

    In my opinion, when you are beyond statistics you must be extremely strong.

    When you represent something which is more demanding than empty shallow apollonic nature — apollonians will detroy you in the name of “health” ( you must be happy and have convenient life —apollonic life, or you won’t have any kind of life)

    And that normal people, as those privileged, are the weakest, point compared to the polytheistic human nature. They are in easiest psychological archetype, so they are also the weakest.

    Titans do not have any privileges. The are being killed by brainless normalcy. Psychological titans represent changes, their pathology is progress.
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    Life of normal people (apollonian) is only a searching for convenience and happiness. For humanity it means nothing.
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    Good adjustment to material reality, wealth, means nothing FOR THE PROGRESS OF HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY.

    I despise psychological monotheism, I also despise physical monotheism. Because there is connections between individual psyche and attitude to food. The link between biology and psychopathology is inseparable.
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    Obese people have right to their obesity.
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    https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

    Everything you know about psyche is wrong.

    James Hillman “Re-Visioning psychology”

  • God is not a chaos. God is the anti psychological fundamentalist, he represent the spiritual fanatics. The confused psyche with spirit.
    Apollonian ego is also confused with Christian spirit.

    Apollonian ego fixation over controlling the rest of psychological reality is the main problem, not “mental illness”. Psyche is just a psyche, psychopathology is just somethong different than apollonian ego easy reality. Apollonians (normal) are the real crazy ones.

    Their sick attitude towards the things they cannot control is a lethal danger to the psyche. They are spiritual and egoic fanatics. Their problem is that their psychological life is too easy.And, easy, from psychological perspective, means also dumb, blind, convenient, shallow. Stupid. Normal people, spiritualists, are just too stupid to realize what psyche is.

    From psychological perspective, mental health (apollonian ego) is equal to some kind of mental weakness or stupidity. No matter how well mentally health are well adapted to material reality, psychological man means——- more than apollonians.

    Cosmos is something more than Earth, and Earth belongs to cosmos. Earth cannot exists without cosmic reality.
    Apollonian ego belongs to Hades (psychological reality) Hades is a matrix for apollonian ego.

    Apollonian ego (normalcy) does not exists without Hades reality (mentally ill). Because Hades reality is the main reality.
    Normalcy is a form of tragic deformation of psychological reality. Normal people are just more unreal than “mentally ill”, because they are far far away from strict psycholological reality. from death reality, and death is the truth. The are more unreal that they think. They reject death and suffering on psychological level, without their will, of course. Their archetype is extremely easy to endure. Normal people are extremely simple, compared to strict psychological reality.

    They will never agree with that fact. That they are more unreal than those called “mentally ill”, because of their tragic psychological blindness.

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    Psychological reality means more than normalcy.
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    There is a hierarchy in psychological reality. Materialists have forgotten about it.

    Hillman is the key to understanding the psyche.Because he is the only key.

  • Materialism = monotheism, science, religion, theology.

    For the materialists psyche is the brain or some kind of spiritual utopian non human reality.
    Polytheism describes real human reality. Polytheism is not a religion, it is a philosophy which supposed to created the foundations of nowadays psychological reality.

    Atheistic people, materialists are also the apostles of monotheistic reality.

  • Psychiatry is not a branch of medicine. It is monotheism in medical disguise. Psyche belongs to polytheistic reality. But theology/religion creates the foundations of philosophy behind the psychiatric dehumanization.
    We live in the world created by the words.
    Monotheism destroyed the wor(l)ds which described polyheistic reality. Our philosophy is also based on religious fundamentalism. The victims of psychiatry are victims of monotheism.

    Science is also a weapon of monotheism, because science defines the raison detr’e. And psyche is not scientfic thing — so it does not exists or is not REAL for materialists. Psyche belongs to reality BEYOND the wor(l)ds of materialistic primitives.Apollonian ego fundamentalism is based on theology, not on human (polytheistic) assumptions. Monotheism and science destroyed psychological reality.
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    Psyche needs Copernicus not pseudo medical masqueraders.

    Autism and schizophrenia are the heart of psychological reality.

    Apollonian ego (normal people) are monotheistic enemies and the destroyers of psychological reality. Polytheistic reality.

    Apollonian ego, science, religion = materialism, monotheism

    Psyche (autism schizophrenia depression) = non materialism, psychological polytheism, but this is no metaphysics.

    Psyche is non theological and non material thing. So schizophrenics, autistics, depressed are not real human beings. They does not exist.

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    Antichrist = Psyche (human psyche, not monotheism)
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    James Hillman Re- Visioning psychology.

  • The problem is much deeper and far more serious. We have a theology in a psychological disguise. We do not even have a proper picture of what psychology is.

    “The difference between psychology and religion boils down to the same as between psychology and science: literalism. Theology takes Gods literally and we do not… In archetypal psychology Gods are imagined… They are formulated ambiguously, as metaphors for modes of experience and as numinous borderline persons. (RVP:169)”

    “The notion of human being as centred in the moral person of free will is also a mythical fantasy, an archetypal perspective given by a single Hero or a single God; our freedom to chose, our moral center and decisiveness, our free will… Here I am attempting to de-moralize the psyche from the moralistic fallacy which reads psychic events in terms of good and bad, right and wrong. (RVP:178)”

    James Hillman

    http://insoulpursuit.blogspot.com/2014/12/james-hillman-and-curse-of-christianity.html

  • “By seeing differently, we do differently.”
    James Hillman

    “My war – and I have yet to win a decisive battle – is with the modes of thought that and conditioned feelings that prevail in psychology and therefore also in the way we think and feel about our being. Of these conditions none are more tyrannical than the convictions that clamp the mind and heart into positivistic science (geneticism and computerism), economics (bottom-line capitalism), and single-minded faith (fundamentalism).”

    James Hillman

  • Suicide of people is the suicide of the system. Death has connections with true condition of humanity (collective psyche), but apollonian ego has got connections only with its own illusions. Apollonian ego, normalcy, is not deep enough to be a determinant of the psychological truth. Psychopathology, the symptoms, are determinants of real human condition.

    James Hillman , Re- Visioning psyche.

    We need wisdom, not apollonian ego hegemony. To kill psychiatry, is to kill apollonian ego hegemony. Monotheistic thinking is a dangerous weapon against complex psyche.

  • ‘Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.’ -Plato

    Szasz, Hillman were rejected, P.Getzsche was punished, P.Breggin is unknown in Europe, many people writing here, are not heard. Victims of psychiatry are deliberately unseen victims. Because apollonian ego is a blind giant in Plato’s cave. And we are those few, beyond.

    Be proud, whoever you are. Because we are those beyond the cave, and we know what’s going on.
    The rest is sleeping and happiness is their sleeping pill.

  • To search for genetic cause of depression is not science, it is psychopathy, or theology in medical disguise. Because we assume that happiness is obligatory and depression or psychosis is unnecessary.

    Psychopathology is either evil or sin. Depression, psychosis is neither evil nor sin, it is a necessity.
    Szasz and Hillman were heroes of freedom of thought, beyond Plato’s cave. And psychiatry is a blind giant in Plato’s cave.
    Victims of psychiatry are also those free, beyond the darkness.

    I am myself, that is not enough – Sylvia Plath.
    Psychiatry has got no connections with wisdom. Death has. Sylvia Plath has.
    I have respect for death, I have respect for suffering. But I have no respect for theology in medical disguise. Or people who think that religious dogmas, medicine or science, means more than human psyche, death and so on.This is arrogance of authoritarian mind.This is Apollonian hatred of psyche. This is spiritual negation of psyche. Fundamentalism of any kind is evil.

    And psyche is seen as a great evil in monotheistic world. Because psyche belongs to polytheistic reality. Apollonian ego is a monotheistic giant.

  • We don’t need psychotherapy or psychiatry. We need to disprove apollonian fundamentalism (apollonian ego in the center of the psyche). Psyche need phenomenology empathy and respect, not pity. And psyche does not exists for stupid apollonic perception. We will have a material culture without psyche, as long as apollonian ego will dictate the way we should perceive psyche.

    To understand what psyche is, we need to perceive it’s real image, first.

    “Re-Visioning psychology” James Hillman.

  • In my opinion, the diagnosis is the main reason for suicide. Psychiatry uses it to imitate treatment, which in fact leads to suicide. It is better to pretend that the psyche is a disease than to accept psychological truths and to accompany someone in his hardships. We want to overcome it and cure it. We do not want to accept depression or psychosis, we want to cure it ( to condemn it, reject it)

    The specialist tells someone that he is not good enough to be human – the real meaning of mental illness. Only those normal, consistent with theories and claims, are true people. The rest does not exists. (Antichrist does not exists, and psyche is antichrist for theology and church)

    The state of materialists imposes on people the responsibility for a part of the psyche that a person can not control. Psychiatry also can not, but pretends to be able to. We must learn to accept what the psyche is, not what it should be, according to utopians -theologians, spiritualists.

    James Hillman Re -Visioning of psychology, Suicide and the soul.

  • If people treat psyche as something human and real, loosing mental health in practice, would not be a synonym of being killed. In many ways, normal people know what they are doing with those with diagnosis. It is disgusting.
    If loosing mental health was a human thing, people would talk about it human way –

    –Och, You, know I am beyond mental health, I feel tired, you know, there are people that understand me, they are not judging me. I have a place to live, among people who, like me, are beyond mental health. I am not feeling well, but I have people who believe me…..”

    Authoritarians likes playing those kind of games. Och, och, we do care about mental health assumptions….And we will kill you if you represent mental illness which we hate.

    For psychiatrists “mental health” game is not something, in which, they could be killed. For them it is not a killing field, like for those on the other side of the desk. It is so easy to use psychiatric diagnosis against someone else who is defenseless…..

    People who represent mental health are not being killed by their own fakes theories. They are using their weapon on others, on those who are defenseless. Those who control are privileged and their clients are their property. Their clients paid them for being their property. James Hillman writes about it –

    “What a client?” by James Hillman
    (“We have hundred years of psychotherapy and the world’s getting worse”)

    “Still it strikes me as little odd that, in their search for another word, healers would beeline straight to the vocabulary of commerce. Looking up “client” in my Merriam -Webster, I think I found the key. The second definition reads:” a person who engages the professional services of another; also: patron, customer”. But dig the definition: “dependent”.

    Lurking in the word they’ve chosen is the dependency that corrupts both sides in the consulting room. Psychotherapy’ clients are customers who, instead of having the usual rights of customers (“the customers are always right”), are dependent on their therapists – therapists who in many cases even have the power to jail or hospitalize them- while the therapists, in turn, are emotionally and financially dependent on the clients who are also their patrons. The contradictory roles of relationship, combined with its legal rules, are byzantine.”

  • Yes. And who is listening to people with diagnosis, since they are perceived as persons without a real human identity? Who will listen? Victims of psychiatry want justice. But this world can not help them, because justice is connected with truth and wisdom. Normal people are not noble just because they do not have a diagnosis. People perceived as mentally ill are no more bad than they are. To be outstanding in this society, you need only fame and money.

    Wisdom is too much for this society, so we have religion and psychiatry.

    We have no wisdom, we have religion and psychiatry.

    People without wisdom think that Obama is an antichrist. Bahahaha. Mental health and normalcy is equal to lack of wisdom.Because people who knows who is antichrist are outcasts.
    You must be beyond this stupid mental health agenda to know who is antichrist. You must think more humanly than normal people…..

    Psyche is the antichrist, and Christians will have to revise their thinking about the human psyche if they want to remain human. Because spiritualism is not psychology, and overcoming death is rather childish activity. Death is psychological reality, and religion prohibited it, which means that god and religion are anti human. God and religion are more important than human psyche which is absurd. This is catastrophe!

  • It is all about the language. Psychiatric jargon versus Jungian vision or Hillman deep aesthetics.
    Scientism, “ordnung” is a god for authoritarians (apollonian ego). Human psyche is a kingdom of metaphors, poetry. It is obvious that psychiatry as a child of apollonian ego fundamentalism and theological/monotheistic hatred toward politheistic psyche, won’t defend psychological man.

    For people possessed by scientism, material world is an answer for everything. They don’t need humans, they want biological machines. Because they are biological machines themselves. So they don’t need psyche/ psychology beyond biological theories, because BIOLOGICAL THEORIES OF HUMAN BEHAVIOUR CREATES THE MYTH THEY BELIEVE IN . Thanks that myth they are important and human psyche means nothing.

  • We do not need psychiatry. We need people who will love psyche more than anything. We need psychological socialism. We need to abolish ego. We also need the children to read Hillman’s books in school.

    Because children should know that psychiatry is a false prophet and human psyche is real.

  • Autism and schizophrenia are like Jackson Pollock’s paintings.
    You cannot use it, you cannot cure it, just because you do not understand the vision. You can only admire the form of expression.
    The aesthetics is what we need. Autism and schizophrenia means more than apollonian ego simple material reality, so they are being destroyed by apollonians.

    Those who are being destroyed today, are gods of the tomorrow.

  • Rachel. Psychological man is not someone for sale. Those people are psychologically beyond material reality. They are supposed to not cope.

    The problem is that apollonian ego does not cope with that fact, that psychological man is not someone who is born to cope.

    They are representing psychological reality. Those kids are like gods. Utility is not their aim. We need to accept psychological hierarchy, autistics are on the highest position. But apollonian ego/simple materialists cannot cope with the fact that our usefulness is something important only for MONEY REALITY, not for psychological reality. That is why we need psychological socialism. Psyche as a greatest value.

    Materialism, utility are the lowest form of psychological meaning.
    I know that one day they will see those kids as a form of secular gods.

    This is my agenda. Psychological titanism is also my invention.
    Titans. We should remember about that word, it describes psychological work of ego. Materialists are materialists, psychological man is psychological man, and he means more than material function.

    Materialism is not enough to build a human state, now we have a camp for biological machines. It is not enough for psyche, so I invented more than utility —–psychological aesthetics to which belongs schizophrenia and autism.

    Actually, James Hillman is the only one defender of psychological meaning.

  • Yes, Breggin is wise. I do not believe that psyche is something that can be improved. It’s a myth because people have decided that the psyche is something that needs to be improved to create a kind of control over those who are unlucky, because unhappiness is something that psyche needs, even though on rational level it is something wrong. Psyche creates pathology. That pathology is needed.

    Depression, psychosis is a psychological function. I do not care that theology reject unhapines or death. Psyche is more important than spiritual utopia. Because psyche is true, and spiritualism is a fiction, ego control is a myth of those who residue on that shallow empty level. All they want is to reject sufferring and punish death for what it is. This is highly theological attitude, non human attitude.
    To control psychological reality means to reject its true meaning.

  • Depression is not about the cure, not anymore. It is about facing death in reality of theological negation or apollonian blindness. Ok? And apollonians are people for whom death exists only in the grave, only in material meaning. They are beyond death in psychological meaning. So they do not give a s. about the fact that there are people who must or have enough of dealing with death in reality that does not even exists for their empty strongly apollonian (the least psychological)perception.

    We are talking about war between theological/material negation of death and the brutal realism of death in psychological reality. Because death is the essence of depression. And psychiatry is using theology.

    PSYCHIATRY IS USING THEOLOGICAL NEGATION, WHICH MEANS THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN DEPRESSION. THEY SEE THEOLOGICAL SIN IN PLACE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL NEED.

    Bahahaha. Yeah.

  • We need to cure psychiatry first. Like I have said before, psychiatry is a form of imaginal sickness, and psychiatric jargon is a form of linguistics sickness. We need human/ pro psychological language that will describe psychological reality in human/PROPER way. We need that language to heal our perception of the psyche, because medical jargon is a psychopatic form of demonization of the psychological reality.

    We need to cure imagination and the language, first. Like Hillman did. Our imagination is full of psychiatric lies.

    We need to cure from PSYCHIATRY itself.

    Psyche does not need healing, it needs our courage to face death and suffering which are beyond medical control.

    We do not need healing, we need to learn to face the reality full of non theological suffering, kids. This is psychology not a theology, we cannot cure anything, psyche can do it itself. And psyche or depression is not our property.
    Yes, depression can kill you.
    GROW UP.

  • What is psychiatric language? What is psychiatry compared to psyche?
    It is fake scientism that destroyed poetry.

    Psyche do not need cure. We need to cure psychiatric jargon which is a form of linguistics sickness.

    Psychiatry is a form of imaginal sickness.

  • I have also language intelligence. I have also language awarness like James Hillman.

    Psychiatric language is not human. Diagnosis is only a mark on a psychological map, or it should be if we have human attitude toward psychological reality.But we have not, we have empty nominalism, false empiricism, empty judgements without roots. We talk about psyche as if she was deprived of beauty. Psychiatric language is a destroyer of the worlds.

    We should have a phenomenological attitude and then diagnosis would be only a human description of the psychological archetype/style of thinking. But now, we have some fake medical illnesses, demonization or theological negation, and we think that apollonian ego is in the center of the psyche. Psyche needs Copernicus and Luther King in one person. We need political defenders.

    I can only recommend James Hillman “Re – visioning psychology”, and his vision of psyche. This is my cure. This cure is a cure of the psychiatric language, because that language needs to be healed. Psyche is psyche, and apollonian ego wants to destroy psychological reality and create false biological model of psyche.

    Monoteism/purism/theology, medical language, or apollonian ego perspective, are not the proper ways to describe psyche.

    Thank you for an important article.

  • We need “real’ psyche. The problem with psychiatry is that they treat psychological reality as something fake or useless. It is all about language they should use to describe it….That language does not exists. Psyche does not exists, because of that sad fact. We need human language, not medical jargon to describe psychological reality.

    James Hillman created that language.Psychiatry created only false empiricism. We need human meaning of psyche, not pseudo medical (theological) condemnation.

    “Re -Visioning psychology” James Hillman. When we imagine, we create new reality. And now, we can only imagine that reality we need. Imagination, politeism is the key to know the psyche. Purism and monotheism is poison for psyche.

    Believe me or not, but, the first 60 pages of Re-Visioning psychology has completely changed my attitude toward human psychology. Hillman was an amazing thinker and also the one almost completely unknown.. That is why I want to share his amazing kind of thinking with others.
    That book is a treasure and a burden at the same time.
    Truth has its burden, especially in the world full of lies. Wisdom is all we have. So I sowing a small seed of the future, today.

    The great ideas is all we have.

  • “Depression is still the Great Enemy. More personal energy is expended in manic defenses against, diversions from, and denial of it than goes into any other supposed psychopathological threat to society.”

    “Yet through depression we enter depths and in depths find soul. Depression is essential to the tragic sense of life. It moistens the dry soul, and dries the wet. It brings refuge, limitation, focus, gravity, weight, and humble powerlessness. It reminds of death. The true revolution begins in the individual who can be true to his or her depression. Neither jerking oneself out of it, caught in cycles of hope and despair, nor suffering it through till it turns, nor theologizing it – but discovering the consciousness and depth it wants. So begins the revolution in behalf of soul.”

    James Hillman

    I can’ t see problem in state of the depression, but in people who are searching for a medical cure.
    To cure means to accept, to believe -TO BELIEVE IN PSYCHOLOGICAL SUFFERING. There is no cure if we show hate toward depression. And that hate is purely egoic or theological.
    Apollonians knows nothing about psyche, but still they want to make money on psychological man.

    To search for medical cure means that no one believe in the depression per se. This is unreal for happy people. They want to lock you up, because of their hatred and lack of time to be with someone beyond naive apollonnian archetype.
    Psyche is the truth, depression is the truth, and mental health is when your ego is too naive, and to far from psychological reality, and death. Mental health is psychological naivety. And depression and psychosis are psychological awareness.

    DO WE UNDERSTAND “MENTAL HEALTH” DEFINITION, PROPERLY? No.

    They want to cure someone form something which is not a medical issue. There is no virus of depression, to get rid of, so they will get rid of human being.

    For “biological” psychiatry, human being is a pathogen.
    We must remember that apollonic society (the ego in the center of the psychological reality) is not a psychological society, it is material and fake like plastic. Resurrection of the psyche is needed.

    James Hillman “Re – Visioning psychology”. .

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    We need psychological Copernicus. Because apollonian ego is not in the center of the psyche, apollonian archetype (NORMALCY) is on the borders of psychological reality.
    And the center of the psyche has got nothing in common with normalcy.

    HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE. Yes, we have. The problem is not the schizophrenia. The problem is with people who sold the soul to the butchers. Apollonians and their utopian fixations is the main problem of humanity. Apollonians wants to get rid of psychological man from authoritarian/egoic/material/empty/non human society of anti psychological biological machines.

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    James Hillman “Re -Visioning psychology.”

  • And I just want to say that word GENIUS and TALENT in proper meaning, means something else..

    ““Genius” is a prostituted word by capitalism.”

    Apollonian ego has destroyed psychological reality, and that reality starts in the death/hades reality and ends on the apollonian shallow level. Spirituality is beyond apollonian ego level. Many people, many christians confuse apollonian ego with christian spirit. They also confuse psyche with spirit.

    I love Russian Orthodox church, because I am a great fan of their music. I listen to the –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6SP-tRFV44

    It is one of the greatest Choral Masterpieces.

  • Can somebody from church tell god to read” Re-visioning psychology”? It was written by James Hillman. It is about human psychology, not about spiritual escape from death/psyche reality.
    There are too many differences between spirituality and the psychological reality. We cannot talk about psychological reality while sitting on the cloud, far beyond the underworld, like spiritualists or apollonian people do. They are beyond reality they are talking about.

    Jesus rised from the death, ok? Only Jesus, no one else.

    Tell GOD that Sylvia Plath and many other’s can’t. And that Jesus story destroyed our psychological reality.

    God should know what theology has done with psychology.
    Spirituality is not psyche.

    https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/487/em-from-em-br-we-ve-had-a-hundred-years-of-psychotherapy-and-the-world-s-getting-worse

  • I have one bible. It is “Re -visioning psychology” written by James Hillman in 1970. It is about psychological reality, about the stolen wisdom. Spiritualism, religion, has got nothing in common with psychological reality. But psychological reality was replaced by theology and spiritual fundamentalism. This is tragedy. Tragedy for psychological man. And the problem is that we DO NOT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS SHOCKING FACT. Hillman knew, because he was the greatest thinker ever.

  • So Anneliese Michel was killed by mother. She was an example of what psychological reality can do with our small ego if that ego is beyond material, apollonian illusion of control.

    The psychology says, that she was killed by orthodox family and evil mother. Psychiatry says that she was mentally ill or send her to devil advisers. The theologians says that she was possesed by the devil

    And antichrist = human, will say – No, stop. Psychological reality is a true reality, hades reality can do everything with your small ego. Small planet in space, this is our ego in psychological realms.

    Psychiatry will tell you, that only this planet is real, that this planet is mentally ok. And the rest does not exists, or it is a form of sickness. And theology will tell you, that when you are beyond this small planet you are in the devil area. That you are possessed.

    We need someone who sees that space beyond our small ego, who will tell everyone that psyche does exists. We need James Hillman, because his eye is a window for the blind.

    Or that girl (AND MANY OTHERS) died in vain.

  • 3.Transcendence.

    As third way to refuse psychopathology is to stand above it. This is transcendental denial. It comes in several varieties, one of which is humanistic psychology. In attempting to restore his dignity to man, this psychology idealizes him, sweeping away his pathologies under the carpet. By brushing pathologies aside or keeping them out of its sight, this kind of humanism promotes an ennobled one sideness, a sentimentalism which William James would have recognized as a tender -mindeness.

    It shows immediattely in the words favored by contemporary psychological humanism. Unlike the terms of professional psychopathology. these resonate with positive glow – health, hope, courage, love, maturity, warmth, wholeness, it speaks of the upward-growing forces of human nature which appear in tenderness and openness, and sharing and which yield creativity joy, meaningful relationships, play and peaks.

    Besides the fact that notion of growth is simplistic, of nature romantic, and love, innocent – for it presents growth without decay, nature without catastrophes or inert stupidity, and love without possession – besides all this, its idea of the psyche is naive if not delusional. For where is sin, and where are viciousness, failure, and the crippling vicissitudes that fate brings through pathologizing?

    IT IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE STOIC TRAGIC VIEW OF EXISTENTIAL, IRRATIONAL, PATHOLOGICAL MAN.

    Whereas tender minded humanism uses the baby and growing todler fir its
    developmental model of man, the tradition of depth psychology sees the same child with a more perverse, tough-minded eye. Depth psychology builds upon the darker perceotion if Freud and Jung, their well – tempered pessimism and eye for shadow. By insisting on the brighter side of human nature, where even death becomes “sweet”, humanistic psychology is shadowless, a psychology without depths, whose deep words remain shallow because transcendence is its aim. To transcend, it leaves the lower, baser, and darker behind as “regression – values”.

    Order can always encompass disorder…We can each move up and out of our pathological conditions.
    In actualizing and realizing higher needs, lover ones become integrated.

    Like “Peak experience” by Maslow. Oriental denial of psychology.

    By going upward towards spiritual betterment they leave its afflictions, giving them less validity and less reality than spiritual goals.

    IN THE NAME OF THE HIGHER SPIRIT, THE SOUL IS BETRAYED.

    James Hillman, Re -visioning psychology.

  • 2 NIHILISM
    Eventually the inventions of ever — new empty names leads to a second style of denial, anarchic nihilism. The anarchic denial goes like this –
    classifications are linguistics conventions deriving their authority wholly from a consensus of experts, from tradition and textbooks. These words become power words, political words, words of a psychiatric priesthood… They help the names and hurt the named….

    Karl Jaspers,Michael Foucault, Laing.

    But the psychopathology still remains. It is merely found a new false home. They regard the sickness as resulting from the system that deals with it. These critics all deny the pathologizing and would get rid of it by getting rid of psychopathology.

  • THREE STYLES OF DENIAL( of the psychological reality)

    1 NOMINALISM

    The first of these we may call the nominalistic denial for its focus on the words, on the naming and classifying of psychic complaints.All through the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries it was high psychiatric vogue to isolate specific disorders by inventing new names. Almost all the words now so familiar were made up then- alcoholism, autism, schizophrenia, claustrophobia, exibitionism, homosexuality, masochism, schizophrenia, and also psychiatry…. It was a fond dream of the Enlightenment, as it is of the rational person in any period, to classify the world of the mind, like the word of plants and animals, into categories, with subclasses, genera and species. Soon disputes broke out between regional schools, as French, British, and German MEDICAL PSYCHOLOGY USED DIFFERENT TERMS. A typical and famous dispute lasting into Freud’s time was between the French and Germans in regard to hysteria, the Germans insisting that it could appear in women because the word hystera meant uterus and that if French psychiatry found hysteria also in men this told more about Frenchman than about hysteria.

    The classifying approach reached its monumental culmination, as did much else in the human effort to force rational control upon nature, at the time of First World War. Then Emil Kraepelin of Munich presented a new edition of his comprehensive four volume textbook of psychiatry in which the seams joining his observations wit his prejudices shows so little and held so tightly that his system of classifying every known form of psychopathology has permeated, if not dominated, psychiatric nomenclatures the world over into our own day.

    The main attack upon the nosology and taxonomy of psychic pathology has been directed at the relation between words used and the events they are supposed to signify. These words are empty nomina, they have no intrinsic connection with the conditions, or underlying reasons for them. which the labels so carefully describe.

    Whether cynical or not, this approach is the main attitude behind psychiatric nomenclatures. The technical terms – sketches of symptoms, their onset and course, and their statistically expected outcome. Nothing further about the nature of the person exibiting the syndrome or about the nature of the syndrome itself is necessary for applying one of these psychopathological labels.

    Schizophrenic behavior can be precisely described and attributed to a person independent of whatever might be its underlying reasons;;genetic, toxic, psychodynamic, biochemical, social, familial, semantic. The empirical nominalistic view calls for nothing more, nothing deeper than MASTERING A TECHNICAL VOCABULARY.

    JAMES HILLMAN RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY

  • James Hillman, Re- Visioning psychology, Suicide and the soul. Manufacture of madness.

    I am not searching for non existent cure or hope. Because I am not interested in naive theologization of psychological reality. I am looking for the truth. Hope is not even a logic assumption. Hope is not an psychological term, it is theological naivety.

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    Psychological truths are incurable. They can change or they can kill you.
    Apollonian ego never will admit that in psychological hierarchy they are those who are furthest away form the psychological truths.
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    Thelogization of the psyche is sin against humanity.
    Apollonian hegemony over psyche is a sin against humanity.
    Theological,medical hegemony over psychological hades is the end of humanity.

    JAMES HILLMAN RE – VISIONING OF PSYCHOLOGY.

  • Some quotes about how theology damaged psyche (psychological underworld) psychosis reality, schizophrenia reality:

    Let us compare: Dionysos and Orpheus went down to redeem close personal loves: Orpheus, Eurydice, Dionysos, his mother Semele. Hercules had tasks to fulfill. Aeneas and Ulysses made their descent to learn there they gained counsel from the “father” , Anchises and Teiresias. Dionysos in Aristophanes “Frogs”, went down another time in search of poetry to save the city. But Christ’s mission to the underworld was to annul it through his resurrected victory over death. Because of his mission all Christians were forever exempted from the descent. Lazarus becomes the paradigm for all humankind. We all shall rise” (James Hillman, Dream and the underworld)

    One effect of this battle with the underworld was the satanizing of Thanatos. The black figure with wings, indsictinct, and even at times gentle in pagan descriptions, became “the last enemy”. and the personification of principle of evil. The underworld became throughly moralized: death became equated with sin. As is so often the psychological rule, the sin that one commits is attributed to that which one commits it upon. Projection. The moral justification for destroying an enemy is that the enemy is destructive.

    The Christian image of hell was thus a projection of a hellish image in Christianism. It must have been in raging despair over the bad exchange it had made. It had lost soul, depth, underworld, and the personifications of the imagination in exchange for idealized spiritualizations in high heaven.

    Now the psychological realm is for psychiatry a devil’s realm. The fear the devil indicated his nearness which also indicated one was in danger of losing Christ. So the devil was established by the fear. The devil image still haunts in our fears of the unconscious and the latent psychosis that supposedly lurks there. and we still turn to methods of Christianism – moralizing, kind feelings, communal sharing, and childlike naivete – as propitiations against our fear, instead of the classical descent into it, the nekyia into imagination.

    Dreams that have their home in the underworld must, too become anti -Christian.
    (James Hillman, Dream and the underworld)
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    The underworld means pure psychological reality. For example life and death of Annelise Michel. She was there, in strict psychological reality, which was stolen by theological hell.

    It is about rejected reality of death, the reality of schizophrenia, psychosis. It does not exists for theological psychiatry. But Anneliese Michel was real person, with real personality, with real ego in psychological Hades. She was there. And she was a hero of descent.
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    Without books:
    Manufacture of madness, Re -visioning psychology, Suicide and the soul, or Dream and the underworld, no one will know anything about the psychological reality.

  • Some James Hillmans quotes –

    APPLYING A SIMPLER MODEL TO COMPLEX CONDITIONS TWISTS NATURE TO A PREFABRICATED FRAME. It is a pathological bias.

    The end of clinical treatment is cure. The process comes to a fruit and all medical measures are stages towards this fulfillment. Consciousness, however, as far as we can read the evidence, comes to no definite goal, no final fruition, but is is a continuous in-going process.
    An analysts who has a notion of cure as a goal of his work is thinking medically. He has not grasped the nature of the complex, the basis of analythical process. There are no antidotes for complexes. The cannot be cured away because complexes are not causes, though they be the determinants of psychic life. A medical model tends to conceive them like a wounds or traumata. or as malignants growths and foreign bodies to be removed in the medical manner.
    But if complexes are energetic centers, the cannot be “cured” without damaging the vitality of the patient.

    Health requires death.

    If lay means unprofessional, then lay means open.

    IF THE PATIENT IS THE DISEASE, GETTING RID MEANS A DESTRUCTIVE REJECTION OF THE PATIENT.

    The conflicts which arise in clinical teams between psychiatrist and social worker reflect this difference between knowledge and understanding.

    Getting better means getting stronger, health become equivalent to strength, strength to life. We are built up to break down and then be rebuilt as we were before, like a machine caught in an accelerated feedback.

    The physician has been trained in biology. His model of development comes from studies of evolution, mainly on sub human species;

    “……psychotherapy is deluded by the idea that everyone must be normal (cured) having children, and “doing things”. or be creative by writing or painting or making things.
    The root of physician is “bhu”, meaning to grow, “to produce”.

    CREATIVITY DOES NOT MEAN ONLY PRODUCTIVITY OF A VOLUMINOUS PHYSICAL SORT (psychological work).
    This is biological model of growth, not psychology….

    James Hillman, Suicide and the soul.

    In my opinion pathological physical non productivity is the hardest work of all. The hardest.The rest is a joke. Physical work compared to psychological work is a joke.

    Without Hillman knowledge psyche will be destroyed.In my opinion autism, especially autism is a psychological answer to reality corrupted by egoic biological machines. Psyche need their psychological work, which is a work against materialism. Apollonians says no, like computers, because they are materialists, and the least psychological people.

    Well, psyche won’t listen to you, I can assure you, she won’t. This is corrupted antipsychological reality, and egoic people must pay. So pay the same price that psychological man has already paid.

    Herr God, Herr Lucifer
    Beware
    Beware.

    Out of the ash
    I rise with my red hair
    And I eat men like air.

    Sylvia Plath.(psyche)

  • So what? He still belongs to the well paid system of dehumanization. Psyche does not exists for psychiatry. The have their fake theories, and they have build theological hegemony over human psyche, and now psyche is invisible and condemned. Healthy means good, and evil means ill.
    This is not psychology, this is theology.

    James Hillman Re -Visioning psychology.

  • There is a psychological need of depression and the need of the others states than normalcy. And psychiatry seems to negate all of the human psychopathology. All they want is normalcy, apollonian ego hegemony, the mental health utopia. This is childish destruction of the true image of the psyche. There is a need of psychopathology and that need is being destroyed by egoic people. By apollonians. They ridicule human psyche.

    We are talking about things that are beyond small will of the ego. We are talking about the rights of the psychological reality. We do not own that reality, medicine do not own and anti human theology cannot cope with it.

    James Hillman Re – Visioning psychology.

  • Psychiatry without psyche is a clock without time. We need Luther King who will demand bringing back the phenomenology of the psyche in place of false empiricism. Now, we have Apollo hegemony, which is so destructive, so empty. We need Zeus/Hades in the place of apollonian hegemony, because Apollo is too psychopatic. Without reading Hillman no one will understand this. Psychiatry is so toxic because for them only apollonian ego is a real part of psychological reality. The rest belongs to trash bin. This is ridiculous, and this is invisible regime. Psyche must regain its stolen image.
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    James Hillman, Re -Visioning psychology.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWvOHT0zfXY
    heil psyche

  • This is very sad, Rachel. Psychiatry turns poetic side of psyche into dust. We are living in strictly material reality in which there is no enough wisdom to respect soul. You have soul. But there are people who have got only brains. Beware of them.

  • Hi. I remember your article about the side effects….I was so shocked.
    You are a hero, Sandra. We should also remember that love is not a good reason to fight. Anger is, and anger is good. Thanks to anger we want to wake up. And what I have learned already is the fact that no one will love you for telling the truth. That is why victims of the psychiatric dehumanization are invisible. And if someone is broken by the system, he is probably the greatest hero.

  • Without love, we have nothing….This is saint Paul and this theology not psychology. Many people live beyond theological meaning of love BUT NOT beyond Eros.
    Many psychological archetypes are beyond typical Eros in “theological” meaning. Love belongs to mythical Eros and Eros has got many dimensions. Eros is not only material love (biblical love), it it far more complex than material love like marriage between man and woman. Eros was destroyed by theology and materialism, especially by theology. Imaginal love is also a love.

    ” All impossible love forces upon us a discipline of interiorizing. Anima becomes psyche as the image of the impossibly loved person who tends to represent the daimon that, by inhibiting compulsion, fosters new dimensions of psychic awarness.” James Hillman

    Eros is born of chaos. And Eros is connected with destruction…..You won’t hear that from saint Mark…YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IT FROM SARAH KANE.

    For us Eros means theological love, material love. Love has got many dimensions, from strictly material to pure psychological. They say that psychological love is something unreal. Well I fell in love many times and it has nothing to do with material relationships or god.

    That is why they invented metal. ; )

    “Without love I would be nothing” . And now people without love in theological meaning, means nothing. Theology is not humane.

  • Who have given the power over psyche, to psychiatry? The power to eliminate suffering,the power to eliminate death? Who gives them the power to treat psychological man as a impaired human being?
    The answer is -theology, god. And economy of course.
    And spiritual god has got no human traits, he has got only claims to human nature, to human psyche. And now we are hideous creatures,empty creations of biological impulses. Without psychological image, human being is not even a human anymore.

    Mythical gods represents our psychological traits, not the god of spiritual negation. And psychiatry represent the spiritual negation, not psyche. And we have what we have. Contemporary inquisition, negation.
    Psychiatry does not represent human psyche.

    Psychiatry represents ego or god, not the psyche.

  • Once, there was one love expert. In Police Academy.
    There’s no spiritual experts or professionals, because spirit is not a science.
    And when they are, we have a similar situation as in the movie – The master.
    Spiritual professionals, psychological professionals === destroyers.

    So why we think that we can make a science from psychological reality? Authoritarian mind is the problem, and psychological man is even more human that mentally health people. Because mental health is a convenient illusion of apollonian ego, and we must remember that ego on apollonian level is separated from the death and psychological reality. So they do not feel connection with psyche, they feel better, more important, because they are materialists, and ego is their god. And when apollonian ego is the god, the psyche is the enemy, and psyche does not exists. And this is psychiatry – ego fundamentalism of psychologically blind people.

    They see a power in this separation, and they see weakness in depression, psychosis, in death. Theology sees death as weakness, this is not psychology, this is childish negation. There is no logic in seeing psyche as the weakness. This is ignorance and also arrogance.

    Apollonian ego is using theology, not psychology to stressed it’s own separation from death, from psychological reality.
    Apollonians are convinced that every contact with psyche is a biological illness. This is apollonian ego problem.

    Why we feel the way we feel? And what to do to feel better?
    Empiricism is the problem, psyche is not a science.

    And theological negation cannot be the answer, the spiritual fascism is also a negation of psychological reality.

    They are the problem – the empiricists. Go back to school, far away from psyche.

    James Hillman Re – Visioning psychology.

  • Yes, it makes sense.
    That is why Hillman is not another false prophet.He was rejected, because truth is inconvenient, it is scary and it hurts. It is also more important than lies. But who wants the know the truth anyway? Apollonians are beyond psychological reality so they use it for their own convenience, because THEY CAN.

  • Psyche can not only destroy your grey matter. Psyche can kill you. Ego is too small to fight off the psychological/death reality – psychiatry called it schizophrenia, but this is only empty nominalism and theological negation, nothing more.

    Apollonian ego can be broke as matchstick by hades/psychological reality. Medicine, theology has got no power over death reality/strict psychological reality. That reality killed many people –
    Plath, Anneliese Michel, Sarah Kane, poets, many many poets, because of their psychological ability to see the reality of death.

    Ask the suicidal person if he or she want to die. They do not want -THE MUST. Welcome in psychological reality. Because what we have today is a ridicule and theological negation.

    Apollonians are fighters and winners, without battlefield and obstacles.

    We must see the psychological differences between the simplicity of apollonian ego reality and the great cruelty and complexity of archetypes beyond apollonian level. And this is mainly a death territory. And we must remember that we are living in society in which death starts and ends in THE GRAVE, not in the psyche. Because this is apollonic society.

    We must use words that has got a meaning.REAL meaning.

    Yes, psychological reality is death reality and it can kill you. There is no cure.

    AND I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE BALLS ENOUGH TO ACCEPT THAT PSYCHOLOGY IS NOT F. THEOLOGY.

    BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE WERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO EXPERIENCE THEIR OWN DEATH.
    And that was not their choice, that was a must, the need, a necessity. TERROR is not a choice.

    Suicide is not a choice, it is a psychological terror.

    PSYCHOLOGICAL, read loud apollonians -P S Y C H O L O G I C A L, not material medical or theological. P S Y C H O L O G I C A L.

  • Psyche is something from the outside. Psyche does not belong to us, or to our ego or brain. Only ego on apollonian level is arrogant and shallow enough to think that WE CONTROL the mythical reality. When ego is beyond apollonian fantasy about control, that means we are insane.Our culture has got no future, because our psychology is too shallow and egoic.
    The problem is that there is no phenomenology of the psyche. There is only something between pseudo science and BS.

    We do not have to know why people feel the way they feel. People are not scientific objects, we are more than science.Space is not our property, psyche does not belong to ego. The problem is that no one can see the proper hierarchy in psychological reality. We think that apollonian ego is the ruler of the psychological reality. Materialists thinks that way, that is why there is a need of psychological socialism. To replace biological machines, to stop the pseudo medical slavery.
    Phenomenology in the place of false empiricism, psychology in place of theological dogmas.

    James Hillman Re – Visioning psychology.

  • “Now we are called defensive or resistant to the therapeutic process where once we might have been blamed for closing ourselves against God’s grace or turning from His will.”

    James Hillman

    “treatment resistant depression” – ideological terrorism in medical disguise.

    To give diagnosis of depression to someone in a world in which happiness is a duty.
    Well….Let’s think for a while, what will happen with these people?
    What could happen with psychological people in the apollonian ego era? In which only apollonian ego is a human identity and the rest is meaningless.

    We must know the differences between apollonian ego FUNDAMENTALISM and the rest of the psychological reality, or we will remain psychologically blind. The language is a weapon.

    http://www.terrapsych.com/hillman.html

  • Psyche is and always was a mythical reality. Phenomenology of the psyche was destroyed by Kraepelin, Bleuler , DSM, materialists, theologians, and so on.

    Biological model is false empiricism and negation of psychological reality. Apollonian ego is the greatest enemy of psychological man, because of lack of empathy, material and theological fundamentalism. To search for the reason of depression, or to search for cure for depression is also a theological destruction of depression (psychosis and so on). Because psychology see psyche as a theological sin, as evil. This is theology in medical disguise.

    There is depression, there is psychosis, there is happiness, there is faith, there is death, there is suicide, there is lack of hope. Everything is a part pf psychological reality, but not for apollonians. To cure means also to omit, to destroy. We, as psychological people, cannot omit psychopathology, but apollonians (psychiatric power, theological fundamentalists, haters of the psyche, the shallowest archetype) can, and they will, for power, for money, for ego, for career.

    Apollonians are those privileged, and psychological man is a slave for them,all they can see is theological evil, not human psyche.

    James Hillman Re – visioning psychology.

  • Psyche is not a science. Psyche is mythical reality, it begins in death reality (psychological hades) -autistics, schizophrenics, and ends in strongly materialistic shallow reality of apollonian ego – normal people, the least psychological people.
    Apollonian ego is the simplest archetype, that simple archetype wants to take over all of the psychological reality, mostly because of theological negation.

    Even depression is sth which is very easy, because ego remain intact by death reality, depression is also apollonic. In depression we see only the shadow of death.
    People like Annelise Michel were psychologically in death reality, and this is reality in which ego has got absolutely nothing to say. Nothing.
    You can not even imagine that LETHAL reality, far beyond ego control. Empaths can, it costs a lot.
    Egoic psychiatrists cannot even compare themselves with empaths.

    Psychiatry without proper image of the psyche means nothing. It is something which have destroyed and still is destroying the state. Apollonians, materialistic people destroyed psychological reality and have build up a reality which suits the needs of biological machines, not human beings.

    Apollonians are obliged to show respect to the death reality, because they are in the simplest psychological archetype. Their psychopatic attitude toward the rest of psyche, can be seen as a form of mental handicap.

  • I do not understand why you want help from enemy. No one will listen to human being in psychiatric hospital, they are there to condemn, dehumanize. Empty nominalism and history of the fake illness in the place of psychological reality won’t help anyone except psychiatrists. Psychiatry is using psyche to their inhumane authoritarian rituals of condemnation.

    Theological institution with roots in inquisitional darkness, is not a friend of psychological reality, because of strong connections between psyche and the death, and we should remember that normal people are far away from the most difficult parts of psyche. Those people are convenient materialists, they won’t believe in your psychological life, because they are there to condemn it and pray to mental health assumptions.

    You, know, we all fight here in the name of those killed and evaluated by psychiatry.

    No one will help psychological man in psychiatry, they will condemn him, because he is not normal.
    And normalcy (apollonian ego) is their only god, the rest of psychological reality (death) does not exists for them.

    Death for psychological apollonians begins and ends in the grave. (Think about it, before they send you there) This is strongly materialistic and psychopatic archetype. They confused psychological reality with brain illnesses for their own convenience.

    And gods of apollonian ego are career money and power over psychological reality of others, those less privileged in apollonian inhumane, strongly material and psychopatic reality. They condemned and ridiculed psychological man, because they do not believe in psychological reality, they believe in their negation and false empiricism.

    I am convinced that there should be places for death reality, for suicidal people, for those who are psychologically in death reality. AND I AM SURE THAT Apollonians (normal, egoic people, theological fundamentalists) should stay away from those people. Stay away kids, go to your schools to learn how to serve to inquisition and biological model of dehumanization, because you must have money to survive, and survival is so difficult for….. Hillman, Szasz, Whitaker, Breggin, Gotzsche, are not for impaired corrupted servants.

    I tell you what, if someone can’t survive and he is psychologically in apollonian archetype (far away from death), he is lazy dumb and weak.

    The only people who have right to have a “problem” with survival are those in death reality, because this is hard to bear reality The rest is simply lazy.

    People in the shallowest psychological archetypes should stay away from psychological man.
    Apollonian people cannot recognize psychological reality, they are psychologically beyond that reality. They are highly dangerous theological criminals who are using empty nominalism, inhumane ideologies and some pseudo medical rituals.

    Normal people need psychiatric hospitals, prisoners, outcasts, because truth about psyche is too difficult for their simple convenient reality. Yes, I do hate apollonian fundamentalists.

    People in depression cannot get out of the bed.
    People in death reality, in agony, cannot stay in bed anymore.

    I have one thing to say to apollonic psychiatry—- your negation will destroy you, sonner or later. You are the destroyers OF PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY, and you will be destroyed BY PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY.

    James Hillman Re- Visionning psychology.

    I believe in the greatness of human psyche, not in your fake and lame inhumane pseud science.

  • To know something about psychology, first we need to know what psyche is. I do not think that anything could change until we won’t back to the roots of abandoned wisdom. Psychological reality is not material world, biology, and it has nothing to do with spiritualism. Without phenomenology and proper image of the psychological reality psychological man will remain either “crazy” or stupid.
    Mythical reality must be restored to our world. Brain is not the psyche, but materialists claim that it is, because they want to destroy and control it.

    RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY, JAMES HILLMAN, it is an obligatory book to everyone who want to know what psyche is and want to defend psyche. Our reality destroyed the proper image and the meaning of psyche, because of hegemony of materialists (the least psychological people) and their false empiricism for money and power.
    “Suicide and the soul” is also important book, because of the phenomenology and meaning of the death . We are using theology in medical disguise to reject psychological phenomena, because of their connections with the death, and death is rejected by theology, so is psyche.
    This is non human reality. Material reality should be a place to live in, not a place of material terrorism of those who means more than materialism itself.

  • No. To look for material causes of depression is a nihilism. The causes of depression are purely psychological. Materialists think theologically about psychology which is a fallacy and a crime against
    LOGIC and psyche, crime against death.

    They think that when sb is rich, he or she, must be also happy – this point of view actually shows their ignorance and stupidity.
    And completely non psychological attitude.
    Either childish thinking or theological negation. Grow up, apollonian people. Just grow, up.

    The reason of happiness and unity is psychological blindness. Depression means psychological awakening.
    Psychosis also is sth beyond material reality, it happened in strictly psychological reality which is not real for apollonian fundamentalists/materialists.

  • Depression is still the great enemy. More personal energy is expended in manic defenses against, diversions from, and denials of it than goes into other supposed psychopathological threats to society – addictions, psychopatic criminality….

    As long as we are caught in cycles of hoping against despair….as long as our actions in regard to depression are ressurrective, implying that being down and staying down is a sin, we remain Christian in psychology.

    Our stance toward depression is a priori a manic defense against it….

    Because Christ resurrects, moments of despair, darkening, and desertion cannot be valid in themselves…Our model insist on light at the end of the tunnel,,,therapy more or less consciously imitate this program.

    James Hillman

    The problem is that we do not want to see the need of depression. Apollonians or people beyond the state of depression do not believe in depression or darkness per se, they believe in resurrection and light. So identity + depression is not a real one for them, no one believe in our depression, they believe that it is a sin.

    This is theology, not psychology – to cure state which is beyond the world of body sickness, beyond medicine. This is impossible. Theological pseudo medicine and the terror of health is not an answer for/to human depression. Courage and the truth is the answers.

  • You will understand after reading phenomenology of the psyche. Because now we have only false empiricism in pseudo medical disguise. That is why reading Hillman should be obligatory for everyone, because we are psychological beings, not psychiatric pseudo biological machines. Hillman was and still is the first and the only phenomenologist, not another false prophet. And phenomenology is the only way to deal with psychological attitude. Psychiatric, medical attitude is psychopathic attitude,

    and psychiatric, professional attitude towards psychological reality is a fallacy and has nothing to do with truth, humanity or empathy.

    Psyche does not need moralization or priests in disguise. Psyche needs truth and wisdom. Authoritarian mind and profession is deprived of those traits by definition,,,,,, they are completely useless agents of dehumanization for money. Control, power, money.

    I recommend everyone to read Hillman, because his words are words of human being. Psychiatry can’t speak humanly about psychological reality and that is the greatest evil of all.
    I am against psychiatrization of psychological reality.
    Words can cure – that is poetry. The aim of psychiatric language is to kill poetry, to kill everything which have any connections with poetry.

    “Psychological awareness rises from errors, coincidences, indefiniteness, from the chaos deeper than intelligent control.”

    James Hillman

    http://www.terrapsych.com/hillman.html

  • I see that you like poetry. You could or rather, maybe you should read James Hillman, because he wrote about connections between psychological life and poetry. Everyone who is interested in poetry, should read “Re – Visioning psychology”. I think it is obligatory for poets and psyche defenders to read his books. Because psyche it is not a science and never will be. We are living in the era of apollonian ego cult, and that unnoticed cult actually means, a cult of psychopathy.

    Psyche is not a brain science. What a shame, that we are living in such a soulless dark times.

    We, as society, we are already in psychosis.

    Diagnosis can’t be a judgement. Diagnosis is an alternative to normalcy (apollonian ego). In psychological hierarchy there are simple materialists and there are also complex psychological people. This is holocaust of those who are too complex for simple material world of slacker people in easiest psychological archetypes.

    Our system is evil, because of hatred, of those who are healthy, for pathology (psychological suferring and death) Main aim of psychiatry and capitalism is to preserve the lowest possible status of human being.(meat reality without any psychological meaning)

    To defend psyche means to defend mainly the DEATH reality, non material reality. And for materialists death does exist, but only in the grave. For psychological man, for ill people death is a main reality (that is why I see them as those who are the bravest).

    Depression, schizophrenia, autism are not real for APOLLONIANS, because those diagnosis (psychological archetypes) represents the pathology they rejected and now they are afraid of. Cowardice (and also theology) killed psychological reality.

    Pathology + health = life , life – pathology =utopia

    Life is impossible without pathology, without death. Psyche does not exists without depression, schisophrenia, autism.

  • To talk about psyche and suicide as if it was a biological issue, it is barbarism. Read people, Suicide and the soul,chapter IX – PATHOLOGICAL BIAS.

    “Psychological disorder comes to mean childhood disorder, and the search is on for dissociating the present into past, the complex into simple, the psychological into material traumata. ” James Hillman.

    “As Dubos has said – this idea of health is utopian, it allows no place for realities of human health, which include disorder and suffering at every turn.”

    “The pathological bias has confused pain with suffering, numbing us to both.”

    “PHISICAN NO LONGER WORKS EMOTIONALLY, BECAUSE HIS PREDILECTION FOR SCIENTIFIC PATHOLOGY TENDS TO REMOVE HIM FROM THE UNDERSTANDING OF SUFFERING IN FAVOUR OF THE EXPLANATION OF DISEASE”

    The logos of suffering can not be described by a pathology textbook which uses clinical terms for soul experiences.

    ————————————————————————————————————
    The wrong cure, or the right cure at the wrong time, does more harm than the open wound.
    —————————————————————————————————————
    James Hillman

  • People see suicidal person as a weak one, because they are thinking in theological way… And we supposed to think in PSYCHOLOGICAL way – EGO can not win with death reality, it is to small to cope with this extremely lethal power. Not everyone can touch this difficult reality and so they do not have idea about what they are talking about. Apollonians do not have idea about what they are talking about, when the talk about suicidality, psyche….

    Ego can be crushed by death and that can lead to bodily/biological suicide, (we are dead already, because death is mainly a psychological phenomena, and death is for those who are alive) There is also a great abyss between ego in apollonian reality and ego in Death (Hades) reality. It is psychology, it is mythical, this is not a science, and never will be a science. When we talk about psychological realty we talk about the phenomenology, which was completely destroyed by theology and Kraepelin and company.
    The problem with materialists (psychological apolllonians) is that death for them starts and ends in the grave.

  • I have no words. I can only recommend a book, a book that helped me understand the meaning of suicide, and it was “Suicide and the soul”, written in 70s, by James Hillman. It was, and it is still, a revolutionary book, unknown book, negated book. I can also recommend Re- Visioning psychology. Those books helped me to understand the ideological lies that have nothing to do with psychology, suffering ;and that we are living in completely anti psychological reality. To understand psyche is to accept the death reality. I recommend Hillman to everyone who is looking for the truth about psychological reality.

  • Psychological man is in the same situation, as Black people were, not so long time ago. I am sure of it.

    James Hillman – Re -Visioning psychology – that book will help you understand why.

    Everyone seems to know everything about “mentally ill”. Well, let them read about themselves, about what means to be NORMAL in psychological language/reality. Apollonian ego is a anti psychological tyrant, coward and main killer of psychological reality.

    Apollonian ego is a thoughtless arrogant usurper.

  • Profession is profession, because of lack of emotions. Psychiatry is what it is, because of lack of empathy. Science, medicine with pretensions to science can not be an answer for psychological phenomena. Like I said before, apollonian ego has got no empathy and insight, apollonian ego has got only empty judgements. Apollonian ego has got no love, only cruel cold economic estimates. Empathy is not love or pity. Empathy means to understand and respect psyche, which is far beyond apollonian ego simple assumptions. To understand sth you must have phenomenological insight, not love.

    James Hillman “Re – Visioning psychology”.

  • Psychological man is a major feeding ground for authoritarians, they are using dehumanization of others for their own survival. Normal people are using psychological man for their own purposes. That is why I am against apollonian(egoic, material, economic, pseudo medical, DSM) hegemony over psychological reality, because egoic people are the least psychological and do not have the right and abilities to judge psychological man. Their gods are lame -economy, career and money.

    Apollonian Ego is buying personality. Psyche creates character. And I feel respect only before psychological reality and death, not before authoritarians an their lame reality. Egoic, jungian, pseudo medical and spiritual fictions are for cowards who needs false hopes, lies and so on.

    Psychological man is a hero IN PSYCHOPATIC REALITY OF SHALLOW APOLLONIANS. Shame on you apollonian fundamentalists.
    Pay the same price to psyche and maybe you will talk with psychological people, as EQUALS. Forget about the profession, your lies are over, apollonian ego hegemony is over, even if it is not visible in authoritarian capitalistic reality. It is over, and you know that.

    Material shallow egoic development can not, and never will be equal to psychological development through death. Never. Empty reality of material egoic psychopats is only a form of inhumane fad for money making. Shame on you, egoic people. Technology medicine and money won’t save you. Only truth can.

    James Hillman, “Re-Visioning psychology”.

  • Psyche don’t need arrogant pseudo professionals and their fixation on ego control (desperate search for control). Psyche needs defenders, phenomenology and truth, not false empiricism, and control. Psychological man needs phenomenology not profession, because psyche is not a form of science. You, apollonians are destroyers of the psychological reality. Your scientism is your god. Psyche do not need scientism and drugs, IT NEEDS THE REAL IMAGE AND HUMILITY.

    Psyche do not need theology, rationalism. Theology +rationalism+ pseudo medicine = false empiricism.
    WE NEED TO REVISE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY and we need the resurrection of psychological man.
    Profession has got nothing in common with the REAL IMAGE OF THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY,EGOIC AUTHORITARIANS have stolen it. They, as the least psychological and extremely arrogant and materialistic species, have robbed psychological man of his rights. They have robbed psychological reality for their egoic needs ===MONEY, POLITICS AND CONTROL.

    PROFESSION KILLED PSYCHE AND EMPATHY, SHALLOW APOLLONIANS HAVE KILLED PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN FOR MONEY AND THEIR SHALLOW NEED OF CAREER.

    WE WERE ROBBED FROM A RIGHT TO BE PSYCHOLOGICAL BEINGS BY EGOIC FUNDAMENTALISTS.
    End of the story.

    James Hillman “Re-Visioning psychology”.

  • “…all the pseudo science are the professionals avoiding the exquisite discomfort of being with someone persistently over time in their distress, in their world, in their suffering. without knowing what particularly “to do” at any given moment….”

    Professionals are too shallow to be highly psychological themselves, they can’t even imagine themselves in psychological archetype beyond egoic control. That is because, apollonians, egoic psychopats are extremely shallow. But they do not know about that, they think that psychological blindness or shallowness is a form of courage or strength, and that psychological man is weak, and they are not… What a crazy disdain for human psyche.
    When ego is in apollonian archetype, we think that we have control over psyche, when ego is beyond apollonian archetype, control belongs to psyche itself, and then, we are called mentally ill (and then we are dehumanised, not undestood). This is strategy of denial, of rational or theological denial. Professionalls are pretending that people have control, when they have not, when they are beyond archetype of control.

    Apollonian archetype gives your ego easiness and control, the rest of psyche demands COURAGE and HUMILITY.

    We need phenomenological awarness of what is psyche. For authoritarians psyche begins and ends in apollonian ego archetype. Where is the rest, death, psychological suffering, and so on? Is psychology only for stupid brainless happy cowards, while human suffering, death is in the theological coffin or in rational trash can, together with psychological man?

    WHERE IS THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY? PSYCHO LOGICAL, not rational, not theological – mythical, beyond ego control? Apollonian, material fundamentalists have destroyed phenomenology of the psyche. For economy, for politics. For money.

    James Hillman – Re -visioning psychology.

  • I am just a messenger. His words reveal hidden psychological truth, we are not aware of (I was not aware too) because of many ideologies, like rationalism or theology. Psychology is neither rationalism nor theology. The truth about psychological reality is unknown today, in the era of EGOic science.
    His knowledge is something people need. People should seek the truth, not the cure.

  • That is the main reason why James Hillman’s books should be read by everyone. Phenomenology of the psyche should be known to everyone. Especially “Re- visioning psychology”. People must get to know the ideologies behind psychiatric gibberish.

    http://www.terrapsych.com/hillman.html

    Someone should stop the ego hegemony over the psyche. Smiling psychopathy of apollonian ego suits the needs of capitalism and that is why psychiatry is what it is.

  • The evolution of the soul will be, when everyone starts reading Hillman and will defend SOUL and phenomenology against psychopathic tentacles of pseudo science. When we are perceived only as genetic biological beings, we will remain only meat – healthy or not healthy. We are perceived as soulless meat and this should offends us.
    We must fight for soul, to bring it back to our world. Hillman was trying.He left us his books.
    The soul – mythic reality, phenomenology of the psyche are main reasons why I believe that hostile and anti psychological system of deceitful materialists (eg.psychiatry) can not last forever.

    http://www.terrapsych.com/hillman.html

  • Ketosis is good for health for ALMOST everyone. And pure carbohydartes are poison for everyone. Ketosis is good, because it helps you to keep your glucose level low. Believe or not, our digestive system works perfectly only if carbohydrate level in food is lower than 5 %. Sweets are poison for everyone.

    The problem lies in logic, witches (mentally ill) need fire (drugs, healthy food) to become pure. Normal people do not need fire, because they are good enough.

    Re -visioning psychology – James Hillman
    Manufacture of madness – Szasz

    Ketosis -https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-tips-to-get-into-ketosis#section5

  • Can you do a brutal ladder, Peter? Was Hitler able to do it? If not, that means you are genetically lazy.
    Nazis fixation over body and genetics do not concerned their main leaders…. I am not saying you are Hitler, but it is very primitive and rude to submit biology and genetics over INDIVIDUAL PSYCHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPE.

    There are many kinds of heroism. One of them is being trapped in psychological reality beyond your control. It so easy to be a hero in apollonian state of psyche. Their psychological archetype, their easiness is almost stupid. From psychological perspective death is the truth and apollonians, and those who called themselves healthy, are crazy utopians.

    When your ego is being shaterred you are becoming a hero of psychological descent. Spiritual fascists do not give a damn that they are in the simplest psychological archetype. And they think that lack of ability to see gives them a right to judge.

    Do you think, Rockefeller was there? Or Ghandi? Or maybe Jesus? Do you think that famous, shallow people were in that reality? No.
    Spiritualists and apollonians completely forget about psychological reality.
    There are heroes of descent. Apollonians as the least psychological, are the greatest heroes…… of psychological blindness.

    Strict psychological realty can kill you, like it kills Anneliese Michel and many more also rejected by church and condemned by psychiatry, because psychiatry does not believe in psyche. PSYCHIATRY BELIEVES IN SATAN.

    “Re-visioning psychology” James Hillman.
    Manufacture of madness – Szasz

    Read it Peter, because you are nice.

  • “We now call the destruction of old ideas, politely, a “paradigm shift.” “Catastrophe theory” would be more appropriate. The vitality of a culture depends less on its hopes and its history than on its capacity to entertain willingly the divine and daimonic force of ideas.”

    James Hillman – the only one defender of the psyche, and the only one phenomenologist. If you won’t understand what psyche is, you won’t defend anyone. The phenomenology is needed, and false empiricism must die. Psychological awarness means a new system. Without acceptance of mythical reality we can not defend psyche.

    “Re – visioning psychology”.

  • “We’ve Had a Hundred Years of Psychotherapy & the World’s Getting Worse”
    by James Hillman, Michael Ventura.

    Very important book.
    I write to you one quote from that book-

    Person A is put into a sensory deprivation room and wired for brain waves, skin resistance, heart rate, muscular activity, and respiratory changes. Person B is put into another such room, also wired, and is electrically shocked at random intervals.Person A is then told to guess exactly when person B is being shocked.
    The results were as follows:Person A’s conscious guesses “showed no relation to the actual events”. But Person A’s “polygraph reading indicated significant physiological changes at those instants when Person B was randomly shocked”.
    ….(The experiment is described in Tart’s book Altered States of consciousnes and discussed by Joseph Chilton Pearce in Exploring the Crack in the Cosmic Egg)

    When a culture has gained a certain kind of power partly through not seeing, or ignoring various modes of seeing, then that culture will defend its not – seeing by any means necessary.

    Again, an interesting phenomenon is how even the so called radical elements of the dominant culture buy into its fundamental assumption that only a fairly narrow spectrum of the material world has validity….we see it in psychology,where enormous funds are being spent to try and prove that all inner experience is chemically motivated….

  • Here are James Hillman quotes about psychotherapy-

    Now we are called defensive or resistant to the therapeutic process where once we might have been blamed for closing ourselves against God’s grace or turning from His will.

    “Well, what can I do about the world? This thing’s bigger than me.” That’s the child archetype talking. “All I can do is go into myself, work on my growth, my development, find good parenting, support groups.” This is a disaster for our political world, for our democracy. Democracy depends on intensely active citizens, not children.

    If therapy imagines its task to be that of helping people cope (and not protest), to adapt (and not rebel), to normalize their oddity, and to accept themselves “and work within your situation; make it work for you” (rather than refuse the unacceptable), then therapy is collaborating with what the state wants: docile plebes. Coping simply equals compliance.

    Now when therapy decides to cure the pathology, instead of seeing that the pathology is part of the crack or the broken window, and that something is trying to get in, then it seems to me it’s creating more pathology and keeping the Gods even further away. And then they break in through the whole fucking society.

    Recognition that the soul is also in the world may awaken us from the psychotherapeutic trance in which we pay a hundred dollars for an hour of subjectivism and no more than $19.95 for a beach chair in whose cold metallic arms and plastic lap reflection actually takes place, day after day.

    To what does the soul turn that has no therapists to visit? It takes its trouble to the trees, to the riverbank, to an animal companion, on an aimless walk through the city streets, a long watch of the night sky. Just stare out the window or boil water for a cup of tea. We breathe, expand, and let go, and something comes in from elsewhere. The daimon in the heart seems quietly pleased, preferring melancholy to desperation. It’s in touch.

    Thank You James. This is everything I have to say.

  • Hi, I have a few James Hillman’s quotes here – (James Hillman is THE ONLY ONE FAMOUS PHENOMENOLOGIST OF THE PSYCHE).

    To mythic consciousness, the persons of the imagination are real.

    Psychological awareness rises from errors, coincidences, indefiniteness, from the chaos deeper than intelligent control.

    Something always has you in mind.

    Is there a reality that is not framed or formed? No. Reality is always coming through a pair of glasses, a point of view, a language–a fantasy.

    The word “normal” comes from the Greek norma, which was a carpenter’s square, that right-angled tool for establishing straightness.

    The horizon of the psyche these days is shrunk to the personal, and the new psychology of humanism fosters the little self-important man at the great sea’s edge, turning to himself to ask how he feels today, filling in his questionnaire, counting his personal inventory. He has abandoned intellect and interpreted his imagination in order to become with his “gut experiences” and “emotional problems”; his soul has become equated with these. His fantasy of redemption has shrunk to “ways of coping”; his stubborn pathology, that via regia to the soul’s depths, is cast forth in Janovian screams like swine before Perls, disclosed in a closed Gestalt of group closeness, or dropped in an abyss of regression during the clamber up to Maslovian peaks.

  • Remember that Robert de Niro speech in Awakenings?
    All my life I feel like this – I am talking to walls. I do not want cure, money or nothing. I want RESPECT FOR THOSE IN DEATH REALITY. BECAUSE THEY PAID MORE THAN ENOUGH TO APOLLONIAN PSYCHOPATS..

    Because they are the most courageous people in the world of empty apollonians. They are the psychological minority and slaves of antipsychological barbarians

  • Diagnosis without connections with phenomenology means nothing.The problem is that the cure is the illness.
    Depression is the cure for apollonian egoic psychopathy.
    We value mental health because it is easy. When you are healthy – you are in a huge room, you can do what you want. This is because apollo has got the least connections with death realms, IT IS NOT OUR ABILITIES THAT WE CAN CREATE AND FEEL HAPPY – IT BELONGS TO PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY, AND WE ARE ROBBED FROM THAT TRUTH. And when you are in the state of psychosis, you are in small dark room , you can not move. Cause death won’t let you.

    Who pays more?
    I want apollonian authoritarians to kneel down before Hades reality and give a new value to psychopathology and things that lies beneath the empty term – mental illness. I give a value to diagnosis, to illness.
    And health, Jesus Christ, compared to Hades reality apollonians are empty material idiots. Economy and fetishes has got a meaning for apollonians. They means nothing in death reality.

    READ HILLMAN, STEVE. YOU ARE THE BOSS HERE, SO YOU MUST DEFEND PSYCHE. AND WITHOUT RE VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY YOU WON’T DO IT PROPERLY.

    We are talking about psychological reality, not material reality, so we must know something about that reality. And THAT REALITY was stolen by economy, by authoritarians economy. Economy is their only god.

  • You can eliminate diagnosis, and still there is nothing behind word -depression, only medical BS.
    Sociology and politics won’t help you to describe what is depression.
    I wrote here many times that to describe depression we must use psychological language/ phenomenological. Not medical jargon which is false empiricism and hidden theology.. And that Kraepelin and Bleuler have destroyed the phenomenological attitude.
    How can anyone write something about depression without phenomenological attitude?
    What can you write about depression without psychological meaning of depression?

    That is why I write here that everone should read Hillman, because he , and only he was able to describe psychological reality. No one can do that, without his knowledge. And no one will do this without phenomenology of psyche.

    “Re- visioning psychology.” that book is a door, window to psychological reality.

  • “So long as the statistics of normalizing developmental psychology determine the standards against which the extraordinary complexities of a life are judged, deviations become deviants” Hillman.

    I agree with you. But the problem lies not within the diagnosis but in the attitude towards it. We all have depression, but does not mean that anyone can control it using pseudo medical fetish. There are simply states of psyche that are far beyond happiness or control. And the problem is that people just want to get rid of them. There is a psychological need of depression, but you won’t hear that fact from authoritarian who will do everything to preserve economical status quo from the influence of sb “meaningless” suffering. So they get rid of those who are suffering claiming that they are ill, and they took away the proper meaning of the psyche. State does not take into account people in other psychological states than unity and hapinnes. Partly, this is because of Jung’s fixation over his own psychological unity. He has ruined the psychological minorities beyond unity fixation.

    People are robbed of the right to suffer, for which they have no control. And they can not change it. This is a tragedy. Apollonian unity – normal people – the MAJORITY- are beyond these so called ‘problems”, that is why I despise this easy arrogant higly antipsychological apollonian archetype. Hillman writes about apollonic psychopatic attitude towards the other states. Psychiatry without empathy is useless form of dehumanisation. Psyche needs respect not pity.
    Mental health movement does not need rights, psyche needs rights. Psychological man needs political defenders. People must start to respect their psyche before it will be too late, and goverment will be completely corrupted by pseudo medical moguls.

  • Great article, thanks for words of truth from European country with such a stormy history.
    I suggest everyone who want to know the difference between nowadays dehumanisation and the proper phenomenological meaning of diagnosis, to read the first 70 pages of James Hillman’s Re -visioning psychology. There is no other book in which there is such a great logical explanation of what PSYCHOPATHOLOGY should means for us,- emphatic humans, not monsters, who are using DSM and power to destroy people. There is psychopathology, because we are psychological people.
    We must know the phenomenological truth of the psyche to understand its mechanism. The image, we do not have the proper image of psychopathology, because psychiatrists like Kraepelin and Bleuler have destroyed it.

    Thank you for important voice from Serbia! I hope that Hillman will help people in Serbia to understand their psychological life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8LY2VgiikE
    —–psyche ressurection.

  • Autism is when your ego is beyond apollonian state of psyche. You do not belong to rational reality, then. You are beyond rationalism and beyond theologic or spiritual concepts of psyche. We have a homo economicus today, but there will be homo psychologicus in the future.

    These kids are the highest form of humans, highly psychological, beyond the system of signs so they are beyond the language. They are unique, that is why I am for psychological socialism.
    Because there is a hierarchy in the psyche and autistics are the highest form of psychological man and apollonians are in the easiest archetype. They must learn to serve.

    This is psyche.
    Apollonians may fall to the same pit they have dig out for psychological people. Just wait.

    James Hillman – Re visoning psychology. Without that book, you know nothing about the REAL psyche. Fake psychiatric empiricism is like authoritarian crud.

  • Only James Hillman writes about psyche without hate. Because he was not a judge, he was, and he still is the first and the only phenomenologist of psychological reality. The rest are apollonian fundamentalists, who thinks that apollonian ego (mental health) is in the center of the psyche, which is a mockery. Mental health it is just a one of many other possibilities of perception. The simplest, the easiest one. Psychiatry is just a mockery and the rest of psyche is as real as mental health assumpsions.

  • Psychosis is a banned style o thinking, that has nothing to do with trauma. Psychosis is a main function of psyche and normalcy is a really strong fixation. From psychological point of view, apollonian ego is psychological denaturalization. Psychosis is the greatest enemy of apollonian antipsychological shallowness. They think they can control psyche, this archetype is so blind and psychopatic.
    Arrest them.They need dehumanisation, drugs and control….

    There is a need of psychosis, and this is very strange that PSYCHiastrists are able to see only the need of normalcy. Maybe they should change their job. Show me a gardener who sets a fire in his garden and then, he called that, a concern or profession. This is psychopathy. And still, they are concern about mental health asssumptions, so who will protects the psychological minorities? No one. For example, homosexuals have always been a minority so psychiatry destroyed homosexuals, because of theological thinking about the psyche. They won’t kill you themselves, because god supossed to be good. So they will leave it to psychiatry to “cure” you.

    Mental health is mainly a theological permission to kill those who resemble satan. And psyche is satan for theology.
    But this is hidden truth. This is not science, thisis ideology. And theology condemned humans for their psychology, so to create a spiritual easy utopian reality with money and material things as a greatest value. It is not my hate, it is your fault, inquisition. God is not a killer, but theologians are.

    Dear Luise – Luise and her mother
    Re – visioning psychology – James Hillman
    Manufacture of madness – Thomas Szasz

  • State does not exists, its law, its culture, empathy and mythic reality = psyche, were destroyed by psychiatry, the same way inquisition destroyed the law. Authoritarians, Bleuler, Kraepelin, partly Jung, destroyed the real image of psyche (phenomenology, mythic reality) and created false empiricism, and now psyche means= brain or the health of the meat. We are seen ONLY as a healthy tissue by pseudo scientists and psychiatry. Animals have got more rights than psychological man.

    MANUFACTURE OF MADNESS = SZASZ
    RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY=HILLMAN
    DEAR LUISE ——-LUISE AND HER MOTHE

    Anti authoritarianism = truth, and the truth means nothing for the law, for the psychiatry, for medicine, for polithics, for economy.
    There are many people TODAY who are being killed the same way LORCA was killed. The yesterday murder of Lorca is contemporary death of Luise.

    THE STYLE OF KILLING IS CHANGING.

    There is no differences between the murder of the poet and the murder of someone with diagnosis.

    Church is praying for “poor” mentally ill, and never for the victims of the psychiatry.
    Thank you.

  • Read Hillman Re – visioning psychology, you will understand why I rely on the others for knowledge.

    666 is the number of a man. From theological perspective – PSYCHE IS A BEAST, because it is higly untheological. And in the place of psychology we have hidden theology and psychiatry is an inquisition, neither scientism neiter empathy. Psychiatry is using false empiricism and has nothing in common with true image of the psyche.

    Myths are against one “true god”, while myths are psychological truths, and god is a form of spiritual fiction which destroyed real psyche, because of its connections with death, and for theologians/christians death is the greatest enemy . Death is the essence of the psyche.

    Spiritualists, they can not stand the cruel truths about the psychological reality (e.g Anneliese Michel), so they refuse too admit that she was a great, great , extremely great hero of descent (into cruel psychologial reality ).

    HADES/STRICTE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY is far from THE shallow apollonian ego. Ego in apollonian kind of perception.
    Apollonian ego archetype/ perspective is the greatest denial of the psychological reality. (rationalism, christianity/science pseudo are against psychological reality)

    Hades is a psychological reality and apollonians.-authoritarians or theologians are using it for their own egoic purposes, for their careers, for money, for their own purposes/ they condemned psychological man using theological/pseudo medical negation. Because they are egoists and barbarians. Money, theology, rationalism, science, drugs and the others fetishes of authoritarians – means nothing in psychological reality. Psyche is a hostage to theology, to scientific psychopaths, to capitalism, to material reality, and so on.

    For human being there is one truth — psychological hades which is a psychological base for every other state of psyche, even for apollonnians and they are the least psychological human beings.

    Rationalism,theology and scientism are quite a limitations of thinking I do KNOW that mythic reality, the reality of Hades is real, and it is beyond EGO control and that Anneliese Michel was a drastic proof of this. I do believe in what she was going through, because I am empath and I am able to feel, maybe one tenth of what she was going through — that reality is extremely cruel/lethal and theologians and psychiatrists are souless IDIOTS.

    Hades reality, mainly psychological reality, beyond APOLLO jurisdiction is UNBEARABLE FOR SMALL FEEBLE EGO. I am against tehological and pseudo medical fictions. Because I know that reality, reality of HADES can kill everyone—–

    AND they call it simply schizophrenia, they refused too accept that reality, they ridiculed that reality, THEY SOLD THAT REALITY. They will pay to that reality.

    I completely reject psychiatric jurisdiction over psyche and theological fictions for ONE GREAT REASON —–THEY ARE LIARS.
    THEY DESTROYED PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY.

    AND THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF THE PSYCHE.

  • Great and valuable remarks. I have read that awful insulting review, too. Psychological man needs political defenders, not jokers, inquisitors, liars and traitors in medical disguise.

    Psyche needs truth and loyalty, not childish barbaric well educated arrogants who needs scapegoats to survive.

  • Mental health theory is a political permit to killing psychological people and preserving the status quo of normlacy = strongly antipsychological and egoic materialistic society. Their “proper” simple meat wins with the psychological reality. It is all about the money. They have no shame.

    Mental health theory (apollonian ego as proper state of mind) without phenomenological meaning means only to reject and eliminate the psychological minorities.
    As if we could choose our psychological archetype. We can not, and psychiatry pretends to control those who can not. (The fixation over control, when control is impossible)
    Their life is seen as something alien to simple material egoic people.

    Psychiatry should obey to the laws of the psyche. Economy and money on the second place, before psyche.
    There is no psychological man without phenomenological reality of the psyche. DSM controls psyche, description of the psyche does not exists, because phenomenology of the psyche was destoryed by Kraepelin and Bleuler.
    I see them as subhumans, and their biological fixation is also connected to the lowest instincts even beyond animal jurisdiction. We are supposed to be only a healthy biological tissue (biological machines)
    Without psyche human being is only a biological machine. We have soul, because brain is not a creator of imagination. Our brain, our biology dwell in psychological imagination.
    WE ARE NOT THE OWNERS OF IMAGINATION, WE ARE THE PROPERTY.

    Biological fixation, scientism, health fixation, rejection of death, rejection of illness, rejection of psychological reality ====apollonic ego fictions.
    They are to childisch to accept psychological reality, too theological, too materialistisc and too stupid. This is cowardice on a great scale

    Read Hillmans Re – visioning psychology, and forget about DSM without phenomenology. Because DSM should be only a map of the psyche, not a system of prejudice and demonisation with empty judgements. Without phenomenology DSM is just a form of dehumanisation, empty nominalism without true meaning.

    Psychopathology does exists, the problem is that apollonian ego simplicity and fundamentalism have destroyed it. And now, we can be only healthy (apollonian ego) or we will remain no one and psychiatry will keep the rights to kill those beyond mental health assumptions..

    This is your fault —–apollonian egoists, PSYCHE IS A HOST FOR YOUR ARROGANCE. You have stolen the proper meaning of the psyche. And you are inquisition with pretensions to medicine.

    ———We are psychological beings in the first place——–.

  • It is impssible to understand what psychiatry is without Szaszs Manufacture of madness, and it is impossible to understand what psyche and DSM is, without Hillman’s Re -visioning psychology.
    This knowledge means more than all the money in the world.
    Wisdom is priceless.

  • I do not need his friendship or compassion, nor Hillman’s. I NEED THEIR BOOKS and knowledge.
    Szasz was a critic of psychiatry, but he was not a phenomenologist of the psyche. Only Hillman was. Phenomenology of the psyche was destroyed by pseudo scientism, Kraepelin, Bleuler, to control the masses, not for understanding the mechanism of the psyche. Scientism destroyed the real image of the psyche. Szasz was a crticic of the psychiatry, he did not know what psyche was. His critique of the psychiatry was very logical, still, he was a nihilist.

  • This movie is a revolution. I read about it just yesterday, and I could not believe that someone made a movie about the victim of the psychiatric DRUGGING. I can’t believe it.

    Remeber that book “Dear Luise”? The girl said —IT WAS MEDICINE THAT KILLED ME.
    YES IT WAS. The have killed Martin Luther King MORE THAN ONCE.

    “On my gravestone I want it to say that it was the medicine that killed me.” – Luise.

    Manufacture of madness – Thomas Szasz
    Re- visioning psychology – James Hillman
    Peter Gotzsche, Breggin, Rober Whitaker, and so on.

    MAINSTREAM MOVIE CAN NOT BE IGNORED!
    IT IS HOLLYWOOD, THEY HAVE MONEY THERE!
    BAHAHAAA.

  • There is no help in capitalism, but they can cure you from whatever they want. This is psychiatrization of the culture. Psychiatry does know nothing about the psyche, because DSM killed the pHenomenology and the proper image of the psyche, DSM killed empathy. Without it, death and life is only a biology.

    Thomas Szasz, ‘Manufacture of madness.’ James Hillman ” Re-visioning psychology”.
    Only knowledge and empathy can be a cure for psyche.

  • Thank you for these important words. I want everyone to read one the poems, written by Sylvia Plath, because she writes about us – about our species. ANTI AUTHORITARIAN MIND MEANS –PSYCHOLOGICAL MIND/poetic mind.
    Yes Sylvia Plath was also tortured by psychiatry. She received ECT. Hillman writes about poetic point of view, and Sylvia writes about us.

    Sylvia Plath – Mushrooms

    Overnight, very
    Whitely, discreetly,
    Very quietly

    Our toes, our noses
    Take hold on the loam,
    Acquire the air.

    Nobody sees us,
    Stops us, betrays us;
    The small grains make room.

    Soft fists insist on
    Heaving the needles,
    The leafy bedding,

    Even the paving.
    Our hammers, our rams,
    Earless and eyeless,

    Perfectly voiceless,
    Widen the crannies,
    Shoulder through holes. We

    Diet on water,
    On crumbs of shadow,
    Bland-mannered, asking

    Little or nothing.
    So many of us!
    So many of us!

    We are shelves, we are
    Tables, we are meek,
    We are edible,

    Nudgers and shovers
    In spite of ourselves.
    Our kind multiplies:

    We shall by morning
    Inherit the earth.
    Our foot’s in the door.

    James Hillman, Re -visioning psychology.

  • Death is not a tragedy, I agree. It should be a value. But thanks to medicine and thanks to theology, death is seen only as EVIL. This is also an underestatement of human value, as well. Medicine does not own the death, they want to control it. Theology does not own the death also. Death is a psychological reality with biological symptoms in the body.

    Death is not for our bodies, it is for us. Death is a main part of the psychological reality that owns our bodies.

  • Carlene. I think that anyone who writes about suicide must read James Hillman –Suicide and the soul to get rid of the theological thinking about the psyche. It is no about the prevention, it is about the resurrection of the phenomenology of the death in the psyche, we must to know it and must to believe in the reality of death, the reality of psychological hades. We are blaming the circumstances, the material world, it is not enough, this is a fallacy, and wrong attitude. There are many styles of perception. The hardest form of living is when you are psychologically in that reality. PSYCHOLOGICALLY. I believe in psychological socialism, the death in the center of the state. Not the money, the death/psyche, and only then, everything else will be in the right place. We do not need to prevent the death, we first need to have courage and wisdom to face it. We must know the phenomenological meaning of the death in the psyche.

    James Hillman Re -visioning psychology.

  • There is no acceptance of human psyche, because people accept only the most shallow and easy styles of thinking, the apollonian style. The most dangerous and difficult styles of perception are completely unknown, because scientism destroyed the language which could describe it. And false empiricism destroyed true phenomenology of the psyche.

    Scientism used by souless apollonian funadamntalists destroyed the psychological background as if it does not exists. The most privileged people in the state should be those in the most difficult psycholgical archetypes —–not those rich, that is why I believe in psychological socialism, this is a only way to heal humanity and resurrect the psyche stolen by theology and spiritualism.

    I still waiting for someone to describe me what happened to Anneliese Michel on PSYCHOLOGICAL level, and still —–PSYCHIATRY IS TO DUMB TO EVEN NOTICED THAT, AND THEOLOGY IS TOO INHUMAN TO HUMAN PSYCHE. Psychiatry and theologe has got one in common –they are ideological destroyers of the psyche.

    We must remember that god and religion has nothing in common with human psyche. Because psyche is not religion and it is not a theology, and PSYCHOLOGIANS/church talk about HUMAN psyche as if it was satans property. SATAN IS A MYTHICAL BEING, FOR GOD SAKES.

    What happened to Anneliese Michel on psychological level, not on theological level, because we are talking about the psyche?

    I am the only person in the world who noticed the phenomenological importance of this psychological phenomena.

    Ok, she was like Jesus, but for psychological man, not for normal or spirituals. She descend into hell( psychological hades, there is no hell) to show that this reality EXISTS, that HUMAN PSYCHE IS REAL, AND CHURCH DESTROYED IT BY THEOLOGY. And theology says that Jesus saves people from so called hell (psychological reality).
    Sorry guys, you were wrong. People do not know the phenomenology behind terms —psychosis, and mental illness –that is why they do not know who is the antichrist, because they can not see the differences betwenn theology and psychology. THE DO NOT HAVE WISDOM.

    She was human being in great dreadful state of mind, and she was rejected by church and ridculed by psychiatr —-this is sin against humanity.
    SHE WAS A SYMBOL OF WHAT IS PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN TO CHURCH OR TO STATE.

    Annliese beat Jesus. Jesus saves spiritiality for spiritual utopians. Anneliese is a danger for church, because she shows them that spirituality and god are nothing compared to psychological Hades – the death reality.
    Ok, and here there is the end of the psychiatry and the church —because their ideologies has got nothing common with the human psyche.. And that is why Anneliese is the antichrist. Because she was a human,and psyche is also human, it is not a property of religion or psychatry. We have psychiatry who uses theology TO DESCRIBE HUMAN PSYCHE.

    What happened to Anneliese Michel —-describe it, in phenomenological, pro psychological way, use psychological language. No psychiatric jargon and no theology —where is psychological language to describe human psyche?

    James Hillman — Re -visioning psychology.

  • Each of us is trapped in deifferent kind of psychological reality, we can not choose or we can choose if we are in psychological reality that ALLOWES us to choose. Normal represents the easiest archetype, and psychological man is in the most dangerous and unpleasant psychological reality. When we lose the ability to control psychological reality – we are called mentally ill.

    Normal refuse to see that harsh phenomenological reality.They are to stupid and egoic to see the differences between the simplest and the most dangerous psychological archetype – the death reality. The want to cure it, which means –destroy its phenomenology.
    Psychological work is far more difficult than physical work on apollonian level.

    The problem with normal people and psychiatry is that they do not have any wisdom. They do not want to know what psyche is, they just want to control it. They are not trapped, they are the prison for psychological man.

    James Hillman, he helped me to understand the logic of the psyche. I hope one day, we will have the phenomenology of the psyche in the place of inhumane brainless control.Psyche is the future, not science, not technology, only psyche and empathy.

  • Thank you Catherine. I was crying reading this.

    I hope that people who represent contemporary system of dehumanisation will be treated the same way in the future. Maybe their children will.
    People who are using DSM are slaves, so they need their slaves to survive. People who are using DSM are killers, because they are dead too. The system belongs to zombies.

    James Hillman Re visioning-psychology.

    ——FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN, WHO IS BEING DESTROYED BY IDEOLOGIES/ FALSE SEMANTICS, WHICH IMITATES KNOWLEDGE OR MEDICAL HELP.

    Psychiatry has got nothing in common with human psyche. This institution completely destroyed the image of the REAL HUMAN PSYCHE/THE PHENOMENOLOGY BEHIND THE DIAGNOSIS.

    Apollonian ego and normalcy has got nothing in common with the human psyche, because people who represent apollonian ego are too psychologically blind to see the reality of the psyche.

    They do not believe in anything which is beyond their simple archetype. BECAUSE THEY REFUSED TO ADMIT THAT RATIONALISM AND MENTAL HEALTH ARE ONLY IDEOLOGIES, MENTAL HEALTH IS ONLY AN ASSUMPTION, WHICH HAS GOT NOTHING IN COMMON WIT THE PHENOMENOLOGICAL TRUTH ABOUT HUMAN PSYCHE.

    So where is the logic? Psychiatry is not for normal PEOPLE, THEY ARE PSYCHOLOGICALLY DUMB, AND THINKS that THEY CONTROL THE PSYCHE USING PSEUDO MEDICINE (apollonians arrogance and psychological blindness of the most stupid psychological archetype), ok, it should help those, and be a shelter for those who are beyond the simplest archetype ever,because ONLY they have got hard life.

    Normal are too psycholoogically blind to have hard life.

    Normal people thinks that they have got hard life ( or easy, I do not care about apollonians “problems”), and psychoological man should “be cured”, because they have got “problems” with him or her. You do not understand that without phenomenology of the psyche “to cure” means only to terrorize and to demonise sb .

    PSYCHIATRY IS USING PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN FOR OWN PURPOSES, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE PHENOMENOLOGY OF THE PSYCHE, NO ONE SEE THE UNAUTHORALITY AND REAL POWER OF THE PSYCHOLOGICAL STATE BEYOND APOLLONIAN SIMPLE IMAGINATION/JURISDICTION —— THEY TREAT IT AS STH UNREAL OR SOME KIND OF SICKNESS, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF THE PSYCHE, SO THEY RIDICULED IT.

    “MENTALLY ILL ” PEOPLE ARE REAL (FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY) AND NORMAL ARE THE UNREAL UTHOPIANS ( FOR THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY)
    THIS IS THE LAW OF THE PSYCHE.

    TO PSYCHIATRISTS – IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE REAL/PHENOMENOLOGICAL MEANING BEHIND THE DIAGNOSIS, DO NOT USE IT ON THE OTHERS, KIDS.
    BECAUSE YOU CAN KILL SOMEONE IN THE NAME OF HEALTH.

  • Empathy has got nothing to do with theology love and compassion, it is a abilty of seing sb else psychological archetype. THIS IS A GIFT, A VERY RARE GIFT. However, wthout Hillman’s phenonemology no no one can describe what is depression/ psychosis and so on, because we do not use the proper language, because DSM, ego culture and pseudo scientism, killed phenomeology of the psyche. So we do not know waht psyche means, we think it is a brain or medicine.

    James Hillman was a phenomenologist, that ‘s mean he could describe sb’s else psychological “location” on the psychological/mythical map, but he could not feel things he described, he was not an empath.

    Empaths are people beyond apollonian ego archetype, that is a requirement, only then you can FEEL things BEYOND normalcy, and normalcy (apollonian ego) is a psychological barrier. To understand it you must read Hillman’s phenomenology.
    We are sane as long we are in simple apollonian ego archetype, when we are beyond this archetype, they call as insane or mentally ill. Authoriarians are usually apollonian psychopats, that is why, empaths are usually killed by psychiatry. AND THAT IS WHY PHENOMENOLOGY DOES NOT EXISTS. Because apollonians do not see the psyche in the proper light, they are pathologically blind and useless for psychological reality.

    To be an empath, you must be psychologically on the “other side” with people called insane, and then you will see, that they are right, no matter what kind of pathology they represent, so you must be beyond good and evil —-this is a psychological reality. Beyond normalcy, theological good and beyond biblical evil, the phenomenology, the mythical imagination is. Sorry, this is not christianity. Psyche has got nothing to do with the spiritual world or rationalism.
    Apollonians are enemies of the psyche, they do everything to destroy it, and they despise and kill everyone who represent psychological reality beyond their primitive archetype ( beyond apollonian ego constraints)
    This is a definition of the psychiatry.

    James Hillman Re -visioning psychology.

  • Without phenomenological background of the psyche and without facing the cruel truth about the death in the psyche, there will be no wisdom and co courage. Without wisdom and courage and the truth there is nothing.

    Psychiatry is using theology and psychiatrist are so childish and immature, all they want is power over the psyche, and they won’t have it, pseudo medicine won’t have it.
    Scientists destroyed phenomenology of the psyche, from that moment psyche became flesh and we became biological machines.

    Phenomenology of the psyche is something which is superior to apollonian ego psychopathy.
    I do believe that psychological man is worth more than authoritarian mind.
    There are workers, and there are material workers and there is also a psychological work, and for those completely lost in the material world, psyche means nothing. And, maybe they supposed to be called the same way.

    Schisophrenic, autistic- non functioning garbage —the psychiatrists story/antipsychological fixation of the materialists/apollonian ego fixation

    NORMAL (APOLLONIAN EGO) —–A FORM OF BIOLOGICAL MACHINE —(they like when scientists call them that way)
    The psychological/phenomenological view on apollonian ego.

    Sb should treat normal people the same way they treat psyche. EMBITTER THEM, TREAT THEM AS A FORM OF ROTTEN MEAT.

    And that will be justice. We all know, that this site won’t change anything. Psyche needs dionisian/psychological Hitler, dionisian, not apollonian. Judge people for what they are, pay not attention to their money, and we will see who will win. There is a hierarchy in psychological world, and apollonians are on the bottom of the psyche.
    It is not abput the money, it is war about the meaning in psychological hierarchy.

    AND NORMAL PEOPLE, THEY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT, NOW. THEY SHOULD KNOW WHO ARE THEY IN PSYCHOLOGICAL HIERARCHY, BEFORE THEY WILL JUDGE PSYCHE FOR WHAT IT IS.

    James Hillman Re -visioning psychology.

  • It is easy. Normal people did not protest, no one dehumanized the normal people, so the main power of the state – the majority, do not see the problem in destroying and killing the psychological minorities. It is not their problem, when inquisition burned their slaves, those who were not accused for anything, they ate sth, and then they went to watch the show.
    Now, they are doing the same thing. Normal do not mean -empatic, or special. Normal do everything to harm those who are not “normal”.

    Manufacture of madness, and Re- visioning psychology. Without these books psyche means nothing. I can see the obvious superiority of the psychological minorities over the apollonian ego material psychopathy. The way normal are treating psychological man, this is a horror of dehumanisation, and they call it help.
    Szasz and, Hillman wrote books for people, not for biological machines who likes the brain fairytales, phenomenology of the psyche is not for pseudo medical butchers, it is for humans beyond material money obscurantism. And Those people are being destroyed, the pioneers. They are the victims of psychiatry, of the state, of the normal people.

  • As long as psyche beyond apollonian ego hegemony will be discriminated and the inquisition will be dehumanizing and demonizing human psyche, people will be killed for represening sth which is seen as theological EVIL. Drugs are drugs, not a cure, and they are only to help the brain coping with the mythical reality, the psychological reality will stay intact. And psychiatrist ought to be someone who represent mythical reality not the sick interests of the psychopatic normalcy. Normalcy is normalcy, apollonian ego has got no clue what is psychosis, and psychosis is not normal, it is sth more than normalcy, it is something which is beyond normalcy. People in psychological minorities has got no defenders, only abusers and unfear judges with no empathy. Rationalism is not the trait of the psychological reality.
    Psychiatrists are predators and the biological psyche is a ideological nonsense and the NAZI invention.
    People ougt to accept the depression, death and the psychosis AS A way OF perception, paraller to the simple apollonian ego vision, which is the most unpsychological. Language used by psychiatrists is a demonization of the psyche without pro psychological meaning. The are not the defenders. To be normal is nothing. And psychosis is sth tremendous for ego, apollonians destroy psyche.
    There is no equality between normal people and psychological ones. Psychosis means – you need to pay, and normalcy costs nothing.

    That is why I do believe that normal people ougt to pay for what they are doing to psyche. They are arrogants.

    James Hillman Re -visioning psychology.

  • THAT IS RIGHT. FIGHT FOR THE PSYCHE, FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE PSYCHOLOGICAL MINORITIES. STATE FIGHT OFF THE HUMAN PSYCHE USING INQUISITION IN THE MEDICAL DISGUISE.
    FIGHT WITH APOLLONIAN EGO HEGEMONY AND FALSE SEMANTICS. FIGHT THEM OFF.

    JAMES HILLMAN – RE -VISIONNING PSYCHOLOGY

    FIGHT WITH RATIONAZISM. FIGHT!

  • PSYCHE IS NOT A BRAIN, IT IS A MYTHICAL REALITY. I DO NOT CARE IF SCIENTISTS AREN’T ABLE TO COPE WITH THAT FACT.

    HILLMAN KNOWLEDGE IS NOT THE ANOTHER STUPID THEORY. IT IS A FACT, AND LOGIC OF MYTHICAL REALITY IS STH MORE THAN SIMPLE SCIENTISM.

    IT MEANS MORE FOR HUMANITY THAN SCIENTISM.

    WE ARE NOT RATS FOR BIOLOGISTSTS TO CURE OUR DAMAGED BRAIN.

    PSYCHE IS STH MORE THAN BRAINLESS JUDGEMENTS OF THE IMPAIRED NORMALCY.

  • Psychiatry is a continuation of inquisition. “Manufacture of madness” T. Szasz. Jesus Christ, you know nothing about the psyche. Hillman knew, so they reject him.
    The problem with people is that they are using theology in the place of psychology and then they call it medicine. Read Re -visioning psychology, the first 60 pages and then talk about psyche. YOU CAN NOT TALK ABOUT PSYCHE WITHOUT READING THIS BOOK, BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PROPER PERSPECTIVE.
    The brain is nothing compared to mythical reality.
    You all know nothing about the psyche.

  • I know one thing. People mistakes psyche for the brain damage theories. They mistakes psychological reality for biological illness, which is terrible kind of terrorism. Apollonians use false rhetoric to control everyone who is in the other psychological archetype than their own, everyone that is more deep than their shallow point of view, everyone that means more than flesh reality impose.

    They do not understand the proper meaning of words – normalcy, mental illness,. THEY DO NOT USE PSYCHOLOGICAL words like apollonian ego, hades reality, they do not know the proper meaning of psychosis, depression.The just want to ged rid of it, because from their point of view psyche has got no value.

    Authoritarians just want to get rid of psyche, because psyche is seen as a danger to simple flesh reality, to MONEY. And money is the main fetish of apollonian ego. That is why I see the need of psychological socialism, to forget about communism, capitalism. And psychological socialism should treat psyche (death) as a main value, and the worth of psyche in that system would be opposite to contemporary meaning. The death in the center of the state. Because materialists destroyed everything which is difficult to endure, the psyche, the death. They just want easy simple life with insurance and kids. AND THEN THEY CALL IT HARD.

    The most difficult and the most dangerous psychological archetypes are those beyond apollonian ego idiotic crudeness. So they call it —-disturbed, sick, bad, evil, wrong, ill, satan’s breed, possesed.

    Those people should be on the first – line to show “normal people”, how wrong and INJUST they evaluated the psychological reality. Apollonians idiotic attitude towards psyche is pure INJUSTICE, and terrorism. Normal people are unpunished terrorists who are using the inquisition to fight off the human psyche.

    James Hillman “Re- visioning psychology”

  • For time being, we do not know what is psyche/psychosis/depression, because phenomenology, the essence of the psyche was destroyed by ECONOMY, the main god of materialists, by scientism, by theology/spiritualism, and by apollonian ego hegemony. Now, all we have is the false empiricism and scientism which is a curse and DSM is a way to understate the value of human beings. People are trained by materialism and they can see worth only in the flesh reality, it is a curse of apollonian ego era.

    Everyone should read James Hillman, Re -visioning psychology to understand the phenomeological value/the role of the psychosis. The meaning of the psyche.
    Laing, Szasz, they were not phenomenologists, Szasz was a great critic, but he was a nihilist, the same with Liang, he was also a spiritualist.

  • The psyche is not the problem, the problem is that egoic people are antipsychological egoic funamentalists, who creates their material egoic state at the expense of the life and the psyche of the PSYCHOLOGICAL minorities. They are the scapegoats of the normalcy. Egoic, apollonian people are to simple and too primitive to deal with mythical reality, with things which are beyond materialistic reality, brain, flesh . They are just too stupid for this. In psychological reality , apollonians are those poor ones, those who are seen as impaired. For the hades reality, apollonian ego is a joke, this kind od simple perception is sth barbaric for strict and harsh psychological reality. Apollonians/ normal are psychological barbarians.

  • And so what? The problem is the attitude toward psyche, not the fact that people are psychologically beyond normalcy, sometimes. This group of people is being destroyed by normal, those simple egoic people, beyond psychological reality. And, still, people are not the owners of the psyche, so stop looking for the causes, because searching for the causes is a way to avoid psyche reality AND A CUNNING WAY TO AVOID THE NECESSITY OF THE STATE (false rhetorics.)

    Why are you writing this all the time? The causation bio soc psy. Who cares, about the causes? The problem is that psychosis is seen as something THEOLOGICALLY BAD, which is not supposed to be. PSYCHOSIS AND DEPRESSION ARE THE MAIN AIMS OF THE HUMAN PSYCHE AND MENTAL HEALTH THEORIES ARE THE HOSTILE FUNDAMETALISM OF THE “NORMAL” UTOPISTS. So change the attitude toward psyche, normal people, before hades will destroy your apollonian wooden heart and stony eyes.

    I do not want to be rude, but I see this kind of articles as a way to sabotage and avoidance of the psyche reality. Scientism and biology is not the psyche.
    James Hilllman, Re -visioning psychology.

    PSYCHOSIS AND DEPRESSION ARE PSYCHOLOGICAL NECESSITIES/AIMS. No matter what apolllonian ego or theologians have to say about it.

  • I rejected psychiatric terminology, because this is not a psychology, this is just empty nominalism, and fixation over the brain, flesh, without psychological background, which is the essence, This flesh preoocupations is a dangerous NAZI heirloom. I really do think that every kid in USA or Europe should read James Hillman Re – visioning psychology.
    There is no psyche without mythical reality. If apollonians will ignore hades traits, and treat it as a LETHAL danger to the material reality, Hades will destroy it, as a consequence. And believe me that state is sth which can be destroyed by psychosis the same way ego is being destroyed. Apollonian reality is easy to break, because the psychosis is a psychological rape. And the psychological rape is the essence of the psychosis, and this is far more dangerous than depression.

    Hades can rape state, the same way he raped naive and brainless Persephone. Europe is in psychosis now, we have lost ground, psychological roots, identity. F 33 will not help if psychiatry/society will reject the phenomenological truth behind diagnosis. Mental health in contemporary meaning is a very dangerous ideology, this is sort of antipsychological fixation. Psychological racial purity. Normalcy is not sth noble. Never was, I guess.

  • ”Now when therapy decides to cure the pathology, instead of seeing that the pathology is part of the crack or the broken window, and that something is trying to get in, then it seems to me it’s creating more pathology and keeping the Gods even further away. And then they break in through the whole fucking society”.

    James Hillman — read his books, he was a friend of psyche, not a another inquisitor who writes about sth he never have experienced. Because this is psychiatry, egoic apollonians people bla bla about sb else psyche/ hades.

    We must realize that those people are inquisition in pseudo scientific disguise. This is not science and this is not empathy, this is witchcraft. And anyone who represent psychological traits beyond apollonian ego is mean to be killed. In one way or another. So we must know what is the phenomenological world of psyche, what means apollonian ego, normalcy and hades/psyche which is beyond natural world, beyond normalcy.
    The see no value in psychopathology if it is beyond material profit.
    AND THE NATURE OF THE HARDEST AND THE MOST DANEGROUS STATES OF PSYCHE IS BEYOND SIMPLE MATERIALISTIC WORLD.

    DSM PERSECUTORS WILL SERVE PSYCHE. THIS IS THE FUTURE.

  • ‘Why is it that members of the community who have no formal education in psychology or counseling or therapy like myself are receiving more training in compassion and effective responses to the public health crisis that is suicide than “professionals?”

    1 CAUSE YOU ARE A HUMAN, AND PSYCHIATRISTS ARE A BIOLOGICAL MACHINES, THE PROOF OF THAT FACT IS DEHUMANISING LANGUAGE THEYE ARE USING.

    2 SCIENTISM AND BRAIN/ BIOLOGICAL THEORY OF MENTAL ILLNESS IS A CONVENIENT OMISSION OF THE ESSENCE OF THE HUMAN PSYCHE. SCIENCE HAS GOT NOTHING IN COMMON WITH EMPATHY, LOVE.

    PSYCHIATRY IS A CONTINUATION OF NAZISTS FANTASIES ABOUT FLESH, BIOLOGICAL PSYCHE.
    (APOLLONIAN FIXATION AND NEGATION OF HADES AND DEATH===MENTAL HEALTH === PSYCHOLOGICAL NAZISM, IDEOLOGICAL/THEOLOGICAL FUNDAMENTALISM/CULT WITH PRETENSIONS TO SCIENCE. NEGATION OF THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION OF PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN WAS THE MAIN AIM OF NAZISM—-THE FIXATION OVER FLESH BODY, AND APOLLONIAN EGO IS A SIMPLE FLESH WORLD, AND PSYCHE IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL WORLD WITH OTHER AIMS THAN APOLLONIAN SIMPLICITY AND MATERIALISM

    3. PEOPLE DON’T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE PSYCHE, BECAUSE SCIENTISM —-INQUISITION —DESTROYED THE PHENOMENOLOGY OF THE PSYCHE. ONLY JAMES HILLMAN WRITES ABOUT WHAT THE PSYCHE IS. ABOUT THE PHENOMENOLOGY. APOLLONIANS AND THEIR MAIN RELIGION -SCIENCE HAVE DESTROYED IMAGINATION.

    THERE IS NO CURE, BECAUSE THE CURE LIES IN DESTROYED AN BURIED LANGUAGE, DESTROYED BY AUTHORITARIANS AND THEIR UNHEALTHY PREOCCUPATION WITH BIOLOGICAL PSYCHE AND, THE BRAIN THEORIES ——— MONEY IN THE PLACE OF THE CONSCIENCE.

    WHERE IS THE PEHNOMEOLOGY OF THE PSYCHE? WHERE THE F, IS IT, BECAUSE THEY CURE STH AND STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

    FAKE PEOPLE, FAKE PSYCHE.

    RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY JAMES HILLMAN, MANUFACTURE OF MADNESS -T. SZASZ

    AND ALSO SUCICDE AND THE SOUL —
    BECAUSE DEATH IS NOT THE MEDICAL OR THEOLOGICAL PROPERTY, THE PSYCHE MEANS -THE REALITY OF DEATH. THE NON EXISTENT REALITY (IN APOLLONIAN SIMPLE CONVENIENT IMAGINATION )THE HARDEST REALITY, NOT THE MOST SICK ONE. THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE, DEATH IS NOT AN ILLNESS.

    HADES IS THE HARDEST AND THE CRUELEST PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY. NOT THE MOST SICK ONE IN MEDICAL MEANING.

    YES, APOLLONIASNS —————–YOU ARE THE WEAKEST, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT EVEN TOUCHING THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY, EVEN IN DEPRESSION, IN DEPRESSION YOU ONLY SEE DEATH FORM THE SAFE PLACE. PSYCHOSIS IS STH DIFFERENT. AUTHORITARIAN SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY POWER OVER PSYCHOLOGICAL HADES. BECAUSE THE JUST DO NOT HAVE IT, ANYWAY.

    HARD PSYCHOLOGICAL LIFE AND NON MATERIAL FUNCTIONING IS NOT A VACATION, YOU ASSHOLES,

    AND HARD WORK IN SIMPLE PSYCHOLOGICAL/APOLLONIAN REALITY IS NOT A HARD LIFE.

    BELIEVE ME THAT, COMPARED TO HADES REALITY , YOUR HARD WORK ON APOLLONIAN LEVEL OR EVEN IN THE DEEPEST DEPRESSION —– THIS IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL VACATION FOR KIDS. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT PSYCHE/HADES MEANS FOR EGO. AND THAT APOLLONIANANS ARE SO EXTREMELY ARROGANT.

    THANK YOU.

    FOR STATE YOUR PSYCHE IS ONLY A MEAT.
    SO FIGHT FOR THE PROPER HUMAN MEANING.

    YOU, PSYCHIATRISTS AND DSM SLAVES, LAW —–YOU ARE THE HIDDEN DESTRUCTION OF THE STATE IN HUMAN MEANING. YOU ARE THE CONTEMPORARY INQUISITION.
    THIS IS NOT A STATE, STATE WAS DESTROYED BY INQUISITION, LONG TIME AGO, THIS IS A PARASITIC FAKE REALITY WITH PRETENSIONS TO BEING A STATE.

  • Maybe I write about psychosis in Hillmans language.
    Normal means ego is on the apollonian level of the psyche, this is the simplest kind of imagintion that HAVE YOUR IDENTITY —YOUR EGO. In this kind of style of thinking we are convinced that psyche is sth we can control. That this is an apollonian property, it is not. This is an illusion of the poorest of the human imagination.

    Psychosis is different, this is psychological hades, ego lose its ground, no hope no future. You don’t know who you are anymore your identity, your ego it is not your property anymore, the jungian fullness is a myth there. And now, you know that Jung was just a childish dreamer. This is psychosis.

    Authoritarians has got no respect for Hades reality, because they see it only as INABILITY OF FUNCTIONING IN MATERIAL WORLD.
    This is a heresy of materialists.
    THIS IS ANTIHUMAN HERESY, BECAUSE PSYCHIATRIST should be SOMEONE WHO OUGHT TO DEFEND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY, NOT THE SIMPLE FLESH MATERIAL WORLD, – THE WORLD OF APOLLONIAN EGO. NORMALCY IS TOO SIMPLE,,,,IT HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH REALITY OF THE PSYCHOSIS.

    Authorotarians, exorcists and the others antipsychological charlatans are not enough human even to kiss Annelise Michel feet. You are convinced that your poor empty medicine world is sth which can compete with the greatness of the human psyche, with Hades reality.. Always think about Anneliese as of the genius of the descent. The ghostlike beauty of the psyche, the psyche is sth real, authoritarians. Psychosis IS STH REAL, PSYCHE IS STH REAL.
    This is not theology, this is psychology.

  • Psychiatric language is a cancer. Using words that describe meat or some kind of brain illness is a PSYCHOPATHY not empathy or psychology. Psychological language was first used by Jung, then by James Hillman, who was a genius of the ART OF SEEING AND DESCRIBING HUMAN PSYCHE. Scientists and apollonians refused to use it, I hope they will burn in hell for it, because it is a heresy and deliberately devastation and condemnation of the human psyche.

    The PSEUDO MEDICAL PROFESSION is describing their own illusions, not the psyche, their childish faith in fetishes and their non existent pseudo medical power over psyche. The body of the psyche needs great eyes, not barbaric negation. Psychiatric jargon have destroyed society, completely
    ….. I am sure that language of psychiatry is a main power of the state which is used to killing people…
    PSYCHIATRY IS A MAIN KILLER OF POETRY AND IMAGINATION. Language is everything. I wonder when people will notice that fact. THE ART OF SEEING.

  • Thank you Eric for noticing that free will is a theological term. I live in hard to bear reality in which there is no place for false ideologies poor imagination and lies of rationalists, theologians, scientists ABOUT PSYCHE, THE REAL PSYCHE, IT IS STH MYTHICAL iT IS NOT A BRAIN DAMAGE.

    This hard to bear truth is called psyche, death is the center of the psyche, the more psychological you are, the more ill they will made you, because death is sth strictly forbidden in egoic shallow culture. Because fantasies of your psyche (not your will) are not legal anymore, you will not be legal human being too. I have so much hate for “normal” fundamentalists, they are so extremely arrogant towards psyche. Och god,apollonians butchers, your shallow ego and brain theories of mental illness, just makes mi sick. Your are the real disease, not the human psyche.

    Please, read Hillman Suicide and the soul or Revisioning psychology. Live is harder after reading that there is no cure, and that the only cure is a cruel truth about human psyche. I am so tired of dealing with normal or adults that thinks they can control death or can cure psyche, yes, it is possible to some degree, but only on psyche own terms and this is completely impossible if the psyche reality is rejected or ridiculed, from the beginnig.

    The problem with egoic people is that the can t relate to imagination of psychological man. The treat it as his fault, sin, NOT THE TRUTH ABOUT PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY. Apollonians are not empaths, they reject everything which is beyond their own simple archetype.
    Apollonian ego =mental health, the rest of the psyche is a danger for them.
    WE MUST LEARN TO SEE THE PSYCHE BACKGROUND, completely rejected by authoritarians and scientists ===nazi psychopats.

  • I am against capitalism, communism, nazism,because those systems and todays state is a product of destroying psyche by apollonian ego terrorism, their antihuman ideologies (scientism, theology) money.

    Only psychological socialism with hierarchisation of the psychological reality is something which could be a state with proper attitude toward human being. This is simple, after reading Szaszs books, Hillmans and many others, that those who are using DSM now – the inquisition should be those who will serve psyche tomorrow.
    There is no knowledge of what is psyche now, and there won’t bem without reading the Manufacture of madness and Re- visioning psychology.

    I do believie in dionisian Hitler, someone who will give back psyche its proper meaning and value, which was stolen by todays inquisition, I see the apollonian law and the psychiatry based on DSM as a form of usurpation of THE REAL HUMAN STATE which was destroyed long time ago by inquisition, so no one see it today.

    the first 60 pages of Re – visioning psychology is everything you need to wake up. There is no cure, there is only the truth.

    Blue or red pill, choice is yours, Neo.

  • ‘ ….users and survivors sometimes demand psychiatric diagnosis, medication and treatment.’ No, they need drugs, they may have their reasons. I do not care, I need chocolate ice cream and sometimes beer and cigarettes, but I do not call it treatment. You can take what you want, but do not call poisoning yourself–treatment.

    The fact that the same drugs and dehumanisation by diagnosis killed their fellows, means nothing for them. Completely lack of the character, the need of drugs and alcochol makes them feel more numb, what for? They already are. Moreover psychiatrists should show respect for psyche, because psyche is not the property of medicine, this is mythical imagination far beyond medicine world and beyond apollonian ego claims. Psychiatry representong apollonian ego claims delegalized psyche for their own purposes, for money, for authoritarian purposes, for materialists for the power of spiritualism and religion over psyche. Apollonians know nothing about the psyche, they ridiculed it and propagate NAZI theories about psyche, brain BS iwthout any words about the phenomenology, the need of depression or psychosis….. Apollonian inhumane claims destroyed the HUMAN state in the same manner inquisition have destroyed it.And now we can’t even imagine the state in which psyche is something REAL. Psychopathology, DEPRESSION AND PSYCHOSIS is STH HUMAN. To accept human psyche you must to disprove APOLLONIAN EGO FETISHES –SCIENTISM AND ITS PARENTS -MONEY AND LIES. Apollonians do not have knowledge about the psyche, they do not have empathy, wow, at least they have kids….

    Psyche is not the brain, I want to legalise it and punish those who represent DSM not the human psyche. YOU ARE THE REAL PARASITES—YOU HAVE STOLEN PSYCHE phenomeology AND MAKES PEOPE GUILTY OF HAVING some kind of brain impairement, YOU APOLLONIANS. YOUR EGO WILL ROT.

    RE- visioning psychology James Hillman

  • Psychiatry should be punished for rejection of the psyche reality which is logical. Psychiatry do not give a s. about MEANING of the psychosis depression AND HIERARCHY OF THE PSYCHE, the are talking about brain like stubborn kids. Hi, guys, brain is not the psyche, authoritarians are not humans, ok, they are biological machines and they want to treat the same way people who represents STH MORE than they are —–the soul reality. Soul is imagination beyond our ability to control it, but apollonians thinks they can, this is the magic of the archetype —-THE FICTION OF CONTROL…which is the main apollonian trait – the fiction of control over psyche reality. People beyond their fictions are seen as a danger for their shallow reality. Because their normalcy is on the same level with the flesh and biology. The are nothing more, ok. And so they treat psychological man as if he was someone worse than them….Psychological man can’t be worse than rotten flesh which do nothing and say nothing to change their hideous BIOLOGICAL meaning.

    Their shallow brians are souless, psyche reject them, and let them stay on this shallow level for their own good. They are too WEAK TO FACE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY OF HADES. Apollonians are to weak to cope with this, they do not even touch the reality of psychological man. Because they are too weak for it, and psychological Hades do not like apollonians because of their weakness and cowardice before death reality. I want psychological socialism, and hierarchisation of the psyche. Apollonians should be treated the same way they are treating PSYCHE. Thank you. SCIENTISM MUST DIE, BECAUSE SCIENTISM IS THE MAIN FETISH /RELIGION OF APOLLONIAN EGO. ANd that religion destroyed phenomenology of the psyche, which is sth more important than science ——empathy and phenomenology of the psyche are more important than normal people and their simple flesh needs.

    James Hillman Re- visioning psychology.

  • Psychiatry should protect the meaning of psyche, the rights of people who are psychologically beyond simple apollonian ego level. They should give a meaning to the psychosis and depression, be on the one side with psychological minorities. Meanwhile, they betrayed psyche and form a sort of the ego cult (apollonian archetype), which has nothing in common with the rest of the psyche, it is completely unpsychological by definition.
    Psychiatry is the greatest enemy of the psyche, of the psychological man, the should be loyal to the human psyche, they are not. The behave as if psyche was the greatest enemy of the state. Biological psychiatry fallacy is a continuation of NSDAP programm of dehumanisation killing people and destroying psyche in the name of mental health which is already,a a betrayal. Mental health theories eliminates every aspect of the human psyche by definition. Mental health = racial purity.

    James Hillman Re-visioning psychology

  • Sadness it is state per se, the same with psychosis. Searching for the causes result in the lack of meaning of the state per se. THIS IS DANGEROUS MISCONCEPTION. TRAUMA IS NOT the CAUSE OF DIFFERENT—- unacceptable by apollonian EGO culture—- STYLE OF THINKING/PERCEPTION. Ego on apollonian level rejects every other archetype/ style of thinking, this is FORM OF self defence and also the lack of the courage. Apollonians are extreme cowards if there is a death on the psychological horizon. APOLLONIAN EGO REJECTED AND RIDICULED PSYCHE AND THE TRAITS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN. THIS IS AN IDEOLOGICAL USURPATION.

    James Hillman – Re -visioning psychology.

    Do not search for the causes of the state , just give the meaning to the state per se. LEGALIZE PSYCHE OR DIE FOR IT.

  • I believe in suicide as a change. Many people dies happily or feel relieved in moment of their death. Theology must be replaced by psychology. There are materialistic/shallow reasons of suicide, and there are the deeper reasons. The deeper the reason of suicide is,the more the suicide is rejected/ridiculed by psychiatry. Psychosis is similar with touching the death in the psyche–severe mental illness – those dehumanising words won’t change the PSYCHOLOGICAL TRUTH.. Material OR HOT HEADED suicides, on apollonian level are different. The intensity is different. The deepest depression is not similar to the psychosis. Depression is the problem with the ego ON APOLLONIAN LEVEL, and psychosis is when the ego lose control over psychological reality.

    Apollonians should rethink their reasons of suicide (if they have doubts), titans, beyond apollonian level, didin’t have to, but it is wise to wait.. It is arrogance to think that titans (beyond apollonian level) should behave normal. They are gods (mythical side is deeper than ego needs), they didn’t have to. Plath, Kane, Michel, and A. Michel was the greatest of the titans. And many more.
    Psychosis is the most demanding encounter with the death, it is far more harder than PHYSICAL DEATH. TO CONTROL IT, MEANS TO NEGATE ITS ENORMITY.

    I learn it from Hillman, from the poets, who usually live in the shadow of the death. From the “mentally ill”, people should learn from them, but they usually negate their psychological archetype and hide it beneath magical words- “SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS”. Do not play with the death and hades reality, apollonians. This is not your playgorund.

    James Hillman – Re-visioning psychology, Suicide and the soul.

  • I agree. Psychiatry is using dehumanising nominalism to describe THE MOST DANGEROUS THE MOST LETHAL, THE MOST DEMANDING feelings. For the imagination of an ordinary man it means nothing. Well, this is everything. There is no knowledge about the human psyche without Hillmannic attitude.
    There will be no psyche without Hillman knowledge which differ from SCIENTISM. And scientists wants to rule the brain, without acceptance of the psyche in mythical meaning.

    I can’t find words to describe what psychiatry have done with the language. With the psyche in primary meaning. Psyche it is not the brain. Without mythical background there is no psychological reality, only meat BS about the brain.

    We must see the psychological reality TO REALIZE WHY BRAIN CAN NOT COPE WITH IT, BECAUSE BRAIN CAN NOT COPE WITH THE psychological ENORMITY. ONLY APOLLONIAN LEVEL GIVES YOUR EGO THE IMITATION OF CONTROL OVER THE PSYCHE.
    THE REST COULD DEVASTATE YOUR NERVOUS SYSTEM, IT COULD KILL YOU, BECAUSE EGO CAN NOT HOLD ON. SMALL EGO AND the BRAIN ARE TO FEEBLE FOR THAT REALITY. PSYCHIATRY MUST ACCEPT THAT. RESPECT FOR HADES, for the psyche.

  • I disagree. His childchood has nothing in common with his suicide, this is an illusion, searching for victims. “Mental illness” it is not a fault of the brain, trauma or parents. It is just a way of seeing the reality. Psychiatry, society wants to get rid of psychopathology, instead seeing the purpose of the depression, suicide, psychosis.

    James Hillman – Suicide and the soul, Re- visioning psychology.

    Without seeing the purpose of sb psychopathology,there is no point in existence of the psychiatry. Psyche has a value, suicide too. Death is a value too. The problem is not the death itself, but the fact that people are cowards, who are using theology in the place of psychology. PSYCHIATRY HAS LOST THE MEANING OF THE PSYCHE, THE HUMAN MEANING OF PSYCHOPATHOLOGY.
    Psychological man is not a victim. He is.
    In the same line with blind apollonians, who are psychologically not aware. Far from the death in the psyche, that what mental health is. WE SHOULD START TO GIVE A VALUE TO PSYCHE, TO DEATH, BECAUSE STATE WON’T DO IT FOR US.

  • Maybe they dont want to exercise, because it is silly when you want to die. Jesus Christ. Psychiatrists are so childish, the want to rule the psyche even thoug they do not have power over it. People beyond apollonian ego archetype should have right to do many things, many more things than normal people, BECAUSE THE PAID THE HUGE PRICE, and that price should be noticed by normal people. I want titans and psychological socialism with hierarchisation of the psyche, because normal people are damaged by money and false ideologies. They do not know what is the psyche, and psyche is controlled by ego only on apollonian level – the rest is beyond jurisdiction of the medicine and the law. This is not your playground, authoritarians. Give in to psyche. I write it because of Anneliese Michel. This is psyche, this is not your playground, kids. How do you think, what was happend to her? Her ego was devastated by reality that is beyond your shallow imagination Try to show some respect toward unknown. I want psychological justice, not brain BS.

    Re- Visioning psychology. Suicide and the soul –James Hillman und Shalom.

  • Forgive me the agressive tone of this post.
    I know people who are beyond happiness, beyond childish “growing -up” model invented by state authorities, they are using psychiatry and its biological fallacy to destroy psyche, to kill people, to bann the death, because it is easy. It is easy to call sb mentally ill rather than FACE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TRUTH WHICH LIES beneath the empty inhumane diagnosis. AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT PSYCHE WAS DESTROYED BY AUTHORITARIANS AND NAZIS WHO KILLED HUMAN PSYCHE AND CHANGE PEOPLE INTO BIOLOGICAL SUB -APES.

    I know people who can’t relate to that apollonian reality, they are walking naked in their rooms, talking to themselves. I understand the hades reality is sth more than apollonian SHALLOW need for fame career and so on. Hades reality has nothing in common with shallow ego needs, logic.

    “THey” are using biology theology but not the psychology. They reject psyche to play gods, to control.
    Deeper states of psyche has nothing to do with indolence, indolence is apollonian ego word – fetish, the effect of their arrogance and psychopathy.. Psychiatry is an apollonian ego fetish against psyche. Biological psyche is a fallacy invented by authorities to destroy PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN AND CONTROL THE masses..

    If you want to know the definition of the psychological man you must read Suicide and the soul, and at least the first 60 pages of “Re-visioning psychology”. James Hillman is the key to the future. And state is treating humans only as beast of burden, using biological psychiatry invented by NAZIS :gene theories, brain is not the psychology. Biology is not psychology. NAZIS killed psychological man to create brainless meat workers.

    YOU, MEAT PEOPLE, YOU ARE THE DEAD ONES.WITHOUT SOUL/PSYCHE YOU FULFIILL ONLY THE MOST ANIMALISTICS NEEDS. AND STILL ANIMALS MEANS A LOT OF MORE THAN MEAT PEOPLE.
    YOU ADULTS SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO HUMAN PSYCHE. COWARDS.

  • No, I write it because someone have to. When we are searching for a victims we are searching for the roots of psychosis, depression and so on. Psychiatry should ask “for what purpose”, instead of asking “why”. Phenomenology instead false empiricism created to control people, PSYCHIATRY MUST SEE THE NEED OF THE PSYCHOSIS AND DEPRESSION AND SO ON. Without seeing the need of it, THE PURPOSE OF THE DEPRESSION, they will remain psychopatic apollonians- enemies of the psyche.

    We aren’t able to cope with suicide, because we are afraid of death, death is an enemy and we are thinking theologically about it. It is not, suicide gives hope for a future without pain and people are choosen to do it. Sara, Sylvia Anneliese, people in utter despair were choosen to kill themselves and this has nothing to do with others or environment, this is internal, and has connections with the death in the psyche which is the essence of the soul.
    It takes courage to think about it that way, Hillman taught to think that way, so they reject him, theology and biology miss the point of the death in the psyche, they reject it. There is no hope in many cases, and soul choose to leave. I want people to accept this. There are people choosen to commit suicide.

  • PSYCHE IS SOMETHING EXTERNAL NOT INTERNAL OR BIOLOGICAL, and it is something which should be respected more than normalcy, apollonan ego. DEATH/PSYCHE should be worshipped by the state, not banned.
    I absolutely disagree that critical states of psyche, urge to die, have something in common with free will (theology) or bad genes, the brain. This is not the right point of view. This is psyche – P S Y C H O L O G Y. This is mythical reality, not brain reality, this is soul reality, and the soul is something which is beyond control and the flesh.

    I also absolutely disagree that psyche have something in common with the biology, the biology/brain is only an answer to the psyche. I learned it from Sarah Kane, Anneliese Michel,Sylvia Plath and so on. I learned it form the TITANS, titanic psychological work. People whose ego was being completely raped/shattered by DEATH/ Hades reality which has nothing in common with the NORMALCY. THEY MEANS MORE than normalcy, BECAUSE THEY FEEL A LOT OF MORE.
    I want the Apollonian psychiatry to kneel down before HADES REALITY. Before gods. Thank you. James Hillman, Re- visioning psychology, Suicide and the soul.

    We are talking about normal states of psyche and those beyond control. State must obey to it to the death/psyche. I want psychological socialism with hierarchization of the kinds of developments. There are people in apollonian ego archetype (normal, the simplest) and there are people WHO WERE NOT CREATED FOR MATERIAL WORLD. Their work is hard and psychological. I want them to be noticed, especially Sylvia Plath, Sarah Kane and Anneliese. PSYCHE IS A VALUE and materialistst must obey to the greater reality which is Hades reality – the STRICT psychological reality.
    Anneliese did for psyche as much as Jesus for the spiritual reality.
    AND I WANT TO THANKS THEM FOR IT. They were heroes of descent.

  • The problem is not the suicide, but the attitude towards it. It is not a medical thing, it is no theological or medical thing. There should be psychological attitude towards it and there is none. If you won’t read “suicide and the soul” you won’t understand it. Because this is the only book in which it was explained.

  • I agree. People beyond apollonian ego archetypes are being condemned and killed by the state, AND THIS IS the pagan rite of SCAPEGOATS IN MODERN STYLE. And the state represent apollonian ego interests, not those of the psychological minorities who are the evidence that apollonian ego and material world of the “BIOLOGICAL” state is NOT ENOUGH.

    Apollonian ego rules only the authoritarian reality, and that reality belongs to the flesh in strict biological meaning, not to the psyche. There is a flesh in biological and there is a flesh in psychological meaning. The first one was invented by NAZIS and for the NAZIS,. And nazism was strict apollonian fixation on the flesh reality, and that flesh was suppsed to be material antipsychological, fit and healthy – reality of the animals.

    Flesh is also the psyche property and there is no war without Ares, there is no love without Eros, there is no beauty without Aphrodite, and there is no psychosis without HADES. And all what we had, we sacrifice to one god – Apollo rationality and happiness utopia. To the least psychological archetype who have got no ability to EMPATHY and no ability to see the reality of the Hades – the death reality,psychosis reality and so on. I hope it is understandable. State reject it to preserve it ‘s own need of status quo. People are being killed like that girl from the book DEAR LUISE. SHE IS A TRUE HERO, BECAUSE SHE IS THE VOICE OF THOSE UNHEARD.
    I WANT TO THANK HER MOTHER FOR THAT BOOK, AND FOR LUISE. THANK YOU. YOU ARE MY HEORES.

    AND THIS REALITY LOST THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE WHO IS THE REAL HERO TODAY —–TOM CRUISE AND SO ON.

    There will be no human psyche without the respect for Hades reality. Hades is beyond Apollonian jurisdiction, and the blind AND SMALL must obey to the mighty one who is able to destroy Apollo – and then we called IT PSYCHOSIS.
    And what is psychosis if we won’t give it the proper psychological meaning, if we won’t see it that way.

    ON YOUR KNEES PSYCHIATRY.

  • I presume it was not a suicide or maybe it was, I do not know for sure. I like the way he looks, from the beginning. He was nice guy with tatoos on his face. I like people who writes poems, because this is indication that they have a soul, and suicide is the main evidence of the soul. Because only the soul is more important than biological life. Hillman thaught me this, and Hillman was a propagator of my father work – the bible of the poets. I believe in soul and the poetry, not in the mental health inhuman assumptions.

  • I do not like this idea. I do not even reads the texts, only the titles. Because without Hillman’s Re-visioning psychology,, without his knowledge, knowledge about the PSYCHE in primal meaning, the psyche DOES NOT EXISTS, so I can’t relate to anything. I can not relate to psyche in biological terms, because there is no such thing. Brain is the TV, psyche – the mythical programm, without this even my body means nothing.

    Astrology is good too. I have known someone who has six planets in the sixth house, sun and moon in the fifth, and fortune, Lilith in the twelve (nice), he is dead already. Sun and moon in one house is a tragedy.
    I believe in soul as source of imagination, and the brain has got no ability to imagine itself. I believe in the state which is beyond meat/brain theory. I live there already with the basements goth from the IT CROWD.

    Have you read the poem written by Zombie boy, before his death? I was thinking about it deeply. Shalom to Hillman’s future empire.

    Use your imagination, art, poems to conquer ego apollonian hegemony. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY. Imagination is the key.

  • INDOLENCE IN THINKING IS KILLING THOSE KIDS, because THE MORE IMPORTANT HUMAN KNOWLEDGE WAS DESTROYED BY SCIENTISTS.(HILLMAN)
    AND YOU HAVE NO RESPECT TOWARD THE STRICT PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY WHICH HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH APOLLONIAN EGO.
    APOLLONIAN EGO IS THE SIMPLE FLESH REALITY
    AND HADES REALITY HAVE NO MATERIAL BODY, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE HAVE. THEY ARE IN THAT PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY, NOT IN THE MATERIAL REALITY in the body- THIS IS AUTISM. This is not the impairement, this is beyond everything you know, and you will ever know about psychological reality. Those kids are the property of the PSYCHE, not of the authoritarians. I see them as more important.

  • Titan means titanic psychological work if you still don’t know. Is a FORM OF SOPHISTOCATED work. THE PSYCHOLOGICAL WORK. I do not care if authoritarians have objections. I spit on your graves psychological communnists, capitalists and so on THE SAME WAY YOU ARE SPITTING ON THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY.

    You, authoritarians, you will serve to psyche one day, It is a promise.

  • The problem with autism is that no one sees the psychological need of autism in reality destroyed by hegemony of apollonian ego. Thank you. If no one is to build up the background of the psychological realm and psychological hierarchy, those kids will remain seen as impaired rather that higly psychological. Those kids are and will be the main reason of psychological socialism. As they represent the highest archetype in psychological hierarchy. Their non ability to cope with this higly psychopatic and materialistic reality by themselves, is the step further to the psychological state, Scientists were supposed to serve THE OTHER ARCHETYPES, not to terrorize and abuse the psyche. And they will be.

    ADULTS WERE SUPPOSED TO SERVE AND THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF THE PSYCHE, YOU AUTHORITARIAN SHITS. YOU KILLED AND SOLD SACREDNESS. YOU WILL PAY FOR SELLING THE PSYCHE TO PSYCHOPATS.

    James Hillman Re -Visionning psychology.
    Shalom to you autistics children or Aspargers or whoever with diagnose from beyond apollonian ego fundamentalism. Shalom from the future system. To you TITANS.

    Shalom my gods.

    HAVE YOU SEEN THE GREAT MOVIE ABOUT MONKEYS MORE HUMAN THAN PEOPLE? THE MONKEYS ARE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PEOPLE, MORE HUMAN THAN HUMANS.

  • Psychiatry do not use diagnoses today, they are using only words without meaning.To use it you must know what is the psyche in human meaning. No one can say anything about the hand if the body is invisible. And the body of the psyche is something they reject. The science which destroyed the psychological world, refuse to admit that there are things beyond scientific measure. Without empathy and psychological/human truth diagnoses means nothing.

  • If there is no human meaning behind dehumanising nominalism, diagnoses will be just a judgements. If someone give you a diagnose in nowadays meaning, it means he is using you. Materialistst and scientist are too stupid for using DSM. They are not human enough to use it, they condemned the true language of the psyche, they are just pretending they know something.

    We are talking about mythical reality and not the brain issues. And the mythical reality is condemned, because scientists claims that nothing exists beyond the brain. Like I say, Apollonians are slaves of the science and the brain, they want to judge rather than accept something which is beyond medical control – this is to preserve status quo of materialism. They do not accept psychological suffering/reality so they invented mental illness in biological meaning. The sad truth of psychiatry is that they do not believe in the power of EXTERNAL EXISTENCE OF PSYCHE, they think it is brain. They do not feel respect for that reality, they want to rule the small safe space – the brain/the meat – THEIR PROPERTY. The main aim of psychiatry is to believe in that reality and do everything they can for the resurrection of psychological man, it should be the main aim of psychological socialism, which will probably be phenomenon in history of the state. The one step closer to the fourth dimension of existence. I do not accept the low language of people who want to control meat, and refuse too admit the psyche is reality beyond human brain. Imagination is the aim of the soul, not of the brain. We are not animals because we can imagine things,and imagination is the fourth dimension.

    People whe believe in money more than in imagination, they want others to stay on the flesh level, because this is the guarantee of their profit.
    WE ARE MORE THAN FLESH, BECAUSE WE CAN IMAGINE, AND WE ARE BEING IMAGINED BY REALITY WE DO NOT own and CONTROL. The aim task of psychiatry is to resurrect that reality which was killed by apollonian ego cliams, theology, rationalism and so on. Psychological reality is a fact which is not sth the science can prove, because science is NOT ENOUGH, it is nothing without IMAGINATION/EMAPTHY LOVE AND THE BEAUTY WHICH IS THE PSYCHE MAIN TRAIT.

    James Hillman, Re-Visioning psychology should be a handbook for everyone who are thinking about the psychological socialism. We must learn that to serve the psyche is more important than making money in small FLESH /egoic world. The egoic kinds of development are not enough to build a human state, there is also psychological kind of development (todays indolence, impairement). And the highest possible form of PSYCHOLOGICAL human beings are autistics, THE LOWEST ARE EGOIC on the simple flesh level. And autistics as 100% psyche property, should have the status of inviolables gods, because if they won’t, scientists and the scientific parasites from the lowest flesh reality will DESTROY PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN FOR THEIR OWN PROFiT. For the profit of the meat.

    To change sth in psychiatry means to destroy authoritarians and create the society of REAL HUMANS, people who are thinking and talking about the psyche with RESPECT. It is all about the language and the MEANING OF THE mythical reality. Without the acceptance of the mythical reality with psychological hierarchy in it, which is abandoned now, even by psychologists, human are not humans, they are just a meat for the state. And to accept the psychological man means to accept the psychological work which is far more diffcult than simple apollonian ego reality.

  • No psychosis is worst than apollonian ego terror of fake mental health ideology which they represents with their NAGATION OF true PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY, with drugs, needles, coffins, hate, secret murderers in the name of so called health. They CLAIM they represent mental health and diagnosis, they represent only hollow words, empty nominalism and do their sick rituals of dehumanising using their fetish like some kind of brainless psychopats without feelings/empathy.

    If you have only “depression” that means you may survive, if you are beyond apollonian ego hegemony, you are the state enemy and they will kill you in the name of pseudo health (apollonian ego traits). I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PSYCHIATRY KILLS PSYCHE, DESTROY THE HUMANE /PHENOMENOLOGICAL MEANING OF PSYCHOSIS, MENTAL HEALTH, DEPRESSION AND SO ON. THOSE DIAGNOSIS ARE SEEN ONLY AS THEOLOGICAL EVIL or medical pathology WITHOUT PSYCHOLOGICAL HUMANE BACKGROUND.
    They are killing people for representing Hades traits. This is political truth, Hades – the heart of the psyche is destroyed and demonized in apolonian ego Imperium.

    The problem with psychiatry is that they reject ALL OF THE human psyche and glorify only their own lack of psychological INSIGHT/ depth. Sometimes I wonder if this is not some kind of sick archetypal jealousy -‘You remind me how shallow I am, and that why psychosis is danger to my world, BECAUSE I and my egoic shortbread material life means nothing for the psyche.’

    That is right, psychosis death, terrror, fear are the heart of the psyche and SO CALLED healthy apollonians are beyond this difficult world, so that means their life is extremely easy even if it is extremely hard in material meaning. Psychological life is hard, not those of ego apollonians with material problems.
    They see it as an alien movie, which has nothing to do with their “PROPER” life, and they see psychological reality as a form od immaturity, impairement which is disaster. THEY TREAT THE GREATNESS OF THE psychological DEPTH AS AN INDOLENCE. This is misunderstanding of psychological reality.

    But, still, they want to rule over this hard psychological territory to which they have no respect. Beware of the effects of your arrogance.
    Using term of psychosis only as a form of disgrace and condemnation is not humane, it is not also a psychological attitude. It is attitude of cowards who feels their utopian reality is in danger.

    I want hierarchization of psychological world, and sb should treat apollonians they sam way they treat psyche. TERRORIZE THEM, GIVE THEM A NUMBER IN PLACE OF THEIR IDENTITY, HOUND THEM. DO IT FOR POWER AND MONEY AND CALL IT MEDICINE OR JUSTICE.
    Apollonians traits are not the merits, Hades reality it is not a sin. They are paraller points of view, but psychological is much more hard to endure.

    James Hillman RE -Visioning Psychology. I have in my ass your priorities and your fetish, shallow apollonians with utopian claims towards psychological reality. You are not the rulers of the psychological world and you will never be. And you are not the owners of the psychological reality. Remember, you are doing your job only for money/economy/ego culture for those in power, not for humanity, not for the psyche. And the power of the psyche is independent of those in material power. Always will be.

  • Apollonian ego/authoritarian reality and psychological/Hades reality is black and white and have nothing in common. No one is able to control psychological reality and no one can buy happiness and find love in drugs, but there are people who believes they can.
    You can not control mythical powers that are beyond medical claims. This reality it is not a property of medicine or other people, it belongs to gods. We can only have balls and accept things which we can’t control.
    My vision of psyche is clear, I am not looking for remedy or help, I want a true meaning and true psychological hierarchy, which was destroyed by authoritarians and their main gods/fetish – power and money.

    There is no control over the deep psychological reality, so they invite psychiatry and they imitate the control, bu this is only brainless drugging. There’s no cure for misery and death, and people are so childish in their attitudes toward the psychological reality, they think they can cope with it with drugs. There is a cure in the illness, and the illness is the cure. But the want only to get rid of psyche, and I am not intrested in psychiatry cheap rituals of pseudo control without any repsect for psychological reality.

  • I mean, they banned the truth human meaning of the psychosis, which is seen todays only as illness. There should be places for psychological hardship, but still, people are not the owners of the psychological reality. They (psychiatrists, apollonian society) should respect the things which are beyond easy and simple apollonian point of view which gave them the imitation of having control and unity and so on. Psyche is not a human property, and that is why people who do some dangeorus things in state of psychosis,they should have also more privileges. Because it is very hard to bear sth which is beyond ego control.And people paid their dues, even though they behave dangeorus. Psychiatrists should be aware of that , that apollonian reality is simple, and psychological reality beyond it, is extremely dangerous, full of pain and fear, lack of control.

    Dionisian traits, Hades traits are dangerous and complex, and apollonian are not. So apolonians paid nothing to the psychological reality, but judge and condemn those who are beyound this SIMPLE arechetype, and this is injustice. Because apollonian state of psyche is also NOT the property and the merit of those who represent it, the same as hades reality/psychosis reality. It is not a sin. We are in the psyche, we are not the owners. And sb shoul have noticed it long ago. PSYCHE IS NOT A BRAIN IT IS REALITY IN WHICH DWEEL OUR IMAGINATION. And the brain is only a tv, we are not the owners of the programm. So show some respect, you psychiatrists.

  • Psychiatrists pretend to be the defenders and their job is to condemn psychological reality. Their hidden duty is to destroy psyche, and defend the normalcy. Psyche has got only enemies, that is why psychological man is voiceless. And the one who defend it MUST BE NOT NORMAL by definition, so he is rejected too. That is why there is no pro humane definition of psychosis. We live in a psychopatic reality.

  • The did not made up diagnoses, the made up everything which is beyond the terms, and this is a real danger. They are using it in a wrong psychopatic way. This is false empiricism, and the only true thing in a diagnosis is a word which designate it.
    Psychosis exists, normalcy also. But the problem is that how many people are aware of the true proper human/psychological meaning ot those words ? Hillman knew , so they rejected him.

  • Psychosis is a style of thinking/feeling which is banned, because we live in a death camp for imagination ruled by rationazism and apollonian ego hegemony. I do not think that anyone could increase sb style of thinking, it is individual kind of perception. The term is not bad, the problem is that psychiatry and other people will ridicule and demonize it. It is seen not as a psychological necessity but as sth evil to get rid of. It is not a diagnosis that hurts, but that FACT that for psychiatry it MEANS NOTHING.

    People are robbed from right to psychosis/KIND OF PERCEPTION by rational apollonianns (PSYCHIATRISTS, scientists, normal people). The problem is that psychosis is for them just an empty nominalism/insult, not a kind of human perception. Psychological man is being ridiculed and demonized by psychiatry and his traits completely lost the meaning in this shallow system, because the problem of psychiatry is that it does not recognize the human background behind every state of psyche. Nothing which is beyond normalcy, exists for them, which is illogical because they SHOULD REPRESENT THE PSYCHE, not to demonize and destroy it.
    Diagnosis are correct, the problem is that psychiatry does not see IT AS PSYCHOLOGICAL NECESSITY WHICH IS A TERRORISM OF APOLLONIAN EGO FUNDAMENTALISTS.

    It should be the obligation for psychiatrists to read the first 70 sites of James Hillman “Re – visioning psychology”. Without this knowledge and logic, diagnosis ( in today USELESS meaning), are a DEADLY DANGER FOR PEOPLE, AND PSYCHIATRY IS A DEATH CAMP FOR PSYCHE.
    There is a meaning behind every diagnosis, and every diagnosis SHOULD BE TREATED AS HUMAN PSYCHE TRAIT, NOT AS AN ENEMY of the normalcy. It is about the attitude toward the diagnosis, not the diagnosis itself, and the todays diagnosis means NADA, because psychiatrists can’t talk in human/psychological language.

  • Because apollonian ego arrogance has got no mirror, it is using psychological Hades traits to blame psyche for everything. And everything which is psychological, irrational or not connected with power and money making is evil FOR PSYCHIATRY. And Hades reality is not evil, it is not psychopatic. Apollonians are.

    There’s no many roots of psyche, there is only one – mythical reality, it is very logical. If you search for victims of trauma….you will find only victims, you must search for the truth, even if it hurts. The style of thinking is very individual, the base of thinking don’t belong even to the one who thinks. And the problem of psychiatrists and today world is scientism, which thinks that s got answers. Psychiatrists are not about to rule the psyche, they should obey to the psychological laws/hierarchy, NOT TO THE INHUMANE ECONOMY, and serve to those whose psychological life is extremely hard or unusual. And they do not want to serve, they must to judge and kill . Apollonians should really be scared, because of what they have done to Hades….and apollonian ego means almost nothing to psychological reality. Because it is the least psychological archetype.

    To talk about biology without realizing the mythical meaning of the psyche is antihuman barbarity. And that’s why I like no remedy model. Do not search for cure to something which is much more complex than shallow medicine world.
    In labirynth there are many coorridors, and you are not a rat to search for the exit, you will lose the road and the meaning of the road if you will be searching for exit all of your life… Do not search for cure , juts Give a PROPER meaning and a necessity to the road/ Hades traits, and that will destroy hegemony of Apollonian psychopats who terrorizes people with mental health ideology.

    There are no winnners or losers in psyhcological reality, THERE IS ONLY THE NECESSITY. There are different kinds of psychological reality. Easy and difficult. That’s why I see the need of psychological socialism. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT PSYCHOLOGICALLY EQUAL, but not in the Aryan meaning. Psyche belongs to Hades/Zeus, not to Apollo or medicine or any kind other ideology, psyche is psyche. It is mythical reality.
    Reality of the ego is the reality of the flesh, and reality of psychological man is no the felsh reality, however this reality is as necessary AS the FLESH world. Psychological Hades is invisible (ONLY INNER WORLD) and has got no temples on the EARTH (physical world) and there’s the problem. There’s no physical place for psychological reality of human being in the kingdom of the flesh.

    There would be a place, if Hades, not Apollo, was a father of today state/psychiatry/way of thinking, and then there will be no psychiatry, no search for exit, only the road.
    Because today psychiatry exists only for getting rid of something from srict Apollonian/state reality, and in psychological state Hades/Zeus would be the main reality. And Apollo would be the one of many, not the ruler.

    There’s no way to build a psychological reality in the kingdom of the flesh needs with economy in the center. Economy is the god, and the Apollo meaning/flesh dependent on that economy. So together, they are killing the psychological reality as meaningless FOR THEIR SYMBIOSIS. STATUS QUO OF THIS KIND OF SYMBIOSIS/STATE – IS TO KILL THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY. And if they won’t stop killing, Hades will kill them both. Sonner or later. Hitler was also a ruler and look what’s happened in Germany now. Europe is drowning in the shadow of Hades, and apollonian ego will be.

    James Hillman Re – Visioning psychology.

  • The problem with psychosis is that this is something beyond apollonian ego FIXATIONS of control, rationalism, unity, which means – we are happy because FOR US mental suffering, death – the rest of the psyche does not exist, we are healthy, (what means also that we are blind, but we refuse to admit that). And when someone is out of touch with Hades reality he is called sane. Because Hades reality is the oponent of Apollonian traits, you must be psychologically raped like Persephone to ADMIT THAT THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY IS TRUE, AND IF YOU ARE NOT – YOU WON’T SEE IT, YOU WILL REFUSE TO ADMIT ITS EXISTENCE. You will see the persons in depression or psychosis as if they were stupid, weak, impaired AS IF THEIR MENTAL STATE WAS SOME KIND OF BIOLOGICAL ILLNESS. That is apollonic blindness and arrogance.

    Apollonian will see you as impaired, because for them, Hades (psychological) traits are THE MOST ALIEN and his world is the danger for their simple convenient psychological reality which give a meaning only to their material world (money, carrier, easy growing up model). The reality of Apollo is easy – the flesh, the external material world, and the reality of Hades is harsh, INNER (growing down), invisible, this is pure psychological world, not the natural or material world. And Apollonians hate the treasures of Hades reality, because they have their MATERIAL ——power money, pathological lack of empathy and pure psychological world means a tragedy for their PSYCHOPATIC MATERIALISTIC REALITY.

    I try to explain it from phenomenological, mythical point of view, most of people are in the simplest/ the least psychological archetypes, moreover they do not know what is psyche, they think that psyche is only their easy point of view, that the apollonian ego is the psychological ruler, but it is not . Zeus or Hades are the psychological rulers OF PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY and the main trait of Hades reality is death, (not in biological meaning). And our culture refuse to admit that, because it is extremely shallow, and the state reality is APOLLONIAN and for APOLLONIAN GROWING UP MODEL – easy, material economic reality (or spiritual), not the deep, psychological one.

    PSYCHOLOGICAL People are brutally removed from community of normal (apollonians) who refuse to admit that psychosis is psychological necessity, and not the mental health disturbance and the mental health means – the psyche is the enemy it means nothing for us, it is only some kind of of functional disturbance. Mental health is apollonian ego fundamentalism.
    Diagnosis without acceptance of the psychological reality are just empty dehumanizing nominalism.

    We are living in society completely divided from their psychological roots. Psychiatry it is egoic communism without place for psychological man, and people represents mental health policy do not represent psyche, but its destruction. AND THE LACK OF MEANING. As if the Ku klux klan represent the interests of black people using the book with white people shooting to them, on the cover.

    PSYCHE IS BEING REMOVED TO PRESERVE THE STATUS QUO OF THE APOLLONIAN HEGEMONY (STATE), WHICH REFUSED TO ADMIT THAT PSYCHE MEANS MORE THAN THEIR SHALLOW MATERIAL REALITY. AND THEY TREAT THE OTHER ARCHTYPES AS THEIR MEANINGLESS SLAVES, THEY STEAL THEIR TRUE IDENTITY.

    ANTIPSYCHIATRY SHOULD BE A WAR FOR REGAINING THE STOLEN MEANING OF STATES BEYOND APOLLONIAN EGO FUNDAMENTALISM.

    Without exchanging the base of today psychological reality, from the shallow psychopatic Apollonian fundamentalism to main (all archetypes) Zeus/Hades reality, nothing will change.

    Psyche is something that is completely removed from the state territory as to preserve the illusion of its materialistic reality which is consider as THE ONLY HUMAN REALITY.
    And psyche is not something which is seen as valuable for materialistic shallow culture. For me, the victims of psychiatry are the pioneers and the only heroes of today world.

    To change the psychological world, the history must do that what Copernicus have done. Stop the Apollo and move the Hades/psyche. Now, the primitive apollonian reality of the state is not refined enough for psychological man, for Hades, we leave in materialistic dull reality. Capitalism, communism, nazism have one in common —–hatred for the psyche. Chronos will eat them too.

    I recommend everyone the Hillman’s Re -visioning psychology.

  • “mass poisonning the children”. The mental health theory is as “useful” as racial purity. The gap between real meaning of the human/psyche and the authoritarian system of psychopatic egoic needs is too deep. It is impossibble to change the system. But you can kill those seen as a danger and you can tell the public that they were dangerous. And the danger for today system is a HUMAN, empathy, thinking, gods other than simple happy stupid Apollo.

    Normal people are the least psychological so they see no point in changing the system that suits THEIR shallow material needs. The psychological man is a scapegoat for them used to build their importance and sense of morality. In Greece they were scapegoats too, killed for the pleasure of the crowd. Today they are doing it in white gloves, because they are too “civilized” for doing it with bare hands. Today scientists are searching for SUBHUMAN ARCHETYPE, because the are barbarian who thinks psyche means biology. The language is your badge, the more sophisticated it is, the more dangerous you are . The more you know about the barbarism of today language, the more they hate you. And the psychiatry language is the language of the barbaric butchers.

    And the book Dear Luise is about today barbarians. Not about the psychiatry, this book is about humans and barbarians. Poeple like Luise should have the memorials commemorating those killed by subhumans, because only subhuman is searching for subhuman archtype among people. Psyche as biology, means flesh replacing human.And people killed by psychiatry are the gods killed by maggots.
    I read the last chapter of Re- Visioning psychology yesterday, several times. As long as psyche will be seen as flesh there is no future for human race.

    Mental health exists because this is the term using to describe the least psychological archetype. And people who protects mental health policy should be aware of what they are doing with the others, with the psyche.

    Psychopathology is a mode of speech.
    http://www.terrapsych.com/hillman.html

  • I am againts mental health SHALLOW THEORIES, and even if people talk about so called mental illness, they do not know about what they talking about, because this shallow antipsychological culture destroyed the phenomenology of the psyche. THERE IS NO phenomenological HUMAN BACKGROUND FOR DIAGNOSIS, there is only empty dehumanizing nominalism, false empiricism which give a meaning only to apollonian ego(NORMALCY), as if it was the only archetype of thinking.

    So psyche is seen only as evil or disability. This is heresy. Psyche (beyond apollonian ego traits) is not the functional disability, psyche is something which is more than the simple ability to function. To be able to function you must be psychologically shallow, IN LINE WITH APOLLONIAN CLAIMS TOWARD PSYCHE. And apollonian ego archetype which is seen as normalcy is the least psychological archetype….
    Psyche haters claims that they are protecting psyche. And how can they do it, when mental health ideology represent only APOLLONIAN EGO FUNDAMENTALISM, and reject the psyche by definition.

    MENTAL HEALTH IS A DANGEOROUS IDEOLOGY.

    WHAT IS HAPPENINg WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE PSYCHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPES, BEYOND APOLLONIAN EGO assumptions/CLAIMS/ FUNDAMENTALISM? I AM SURE YOU KNOW, THAT. THEY KNOW THAT.

    PSYCHOLOGICAL SOCIALISM WITH PSYCHOLOGICAL HIERARCHY AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPE AS CURRENCY.

    TO UNDERSTAND THIS EVERYONE SHOULD READ RE -VISIONIG PSYCHOLOGY AND CHANGE THE THINKING ABOUT PSYCHE/PSYCHOLOGY.

    PSYCHE IS NOT SCIENCE, PSYCHE IS NOT THE SPIRIT, PSYCHE IS NOT THE BRAIN,
    PSYCHE IS PSYCHE, MYTHICAL REALITY COMPLETELY REJECT AND DESTROYED BY SCIENTISM, THEOLOGy MEDICINE AND THE OTHERS antipsychological IDEOLOGIES.

    PSYCHE IS PSYCHE. AND TO DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR PSYCHE MEANS TO BUILD PHENOMENOLOGY IN THE PLACE OF DSM DEHUMANIZATION AND TO BULID THE RESPECT TOWARD PSYCHOLOGICAL HADES TRAITS.

    THANK YOU, FOR READING MY POSTS.

  • “People with psychoscial disabilities….” No, they are the dehumanized hostages of apollonian ego brainless, soulles deeply antipsychological culture. You can not even see the difference between apollonian ego hegemony AND ITS SIMPLICITY, fundamentalism OF GROWING UP MODEL and the more advanced DEMANDING PSYCHOLOGICAL archetypes – they are just “people with impairement in materialistic functioning”.

    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GIVING A NEW MEANING TO PSYCHE/PSYCHOPATHOLOGY, RATHER THAN CREATE NEW PRISONS FOR “PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN MATERIALISTIC FUNCTONING”.
    DO NOT TREAT PSYCHE AS A SOME KIND OF DOG TRAINING. BECAUSE MENTAL HEALTH/NORMALCY (SIMPLE apollonian ego archetype) IN PHENOMENOLOGICAL LANGUAGE, MEANS MUCH ——LESS———- THAN THE PSYCHOPATHOLOGY.

    If you want to help psyche which is a hostage in apollonian ego reality, stop to treat everything else better than the psyche itself. And stop called psychological people like some kind of impaired kids.
    You treat everything which is connect with psyche as some kind of impairement, and not the worth per se. Psyche do not need buildings and money it need proper langugae and respect.

    WHAT DO YOU WANT? TO HAVE DOCILE IDIOTS SEEN BY OTHERS AS IMPAIRED DUMMIES OR PSYCHOLOGICAL PEOPLE BEYOND SIMPLE APOLLONIAN EGO ARCHETYPE WHO ARE TRAPPED IN THE STUPID SOULESS materialistic CULTURE.

    WITHOUT THE PROPER MEANING, PSYCHE WOULD MEAN NOTHING AND STILL WOULD BE SEEN AS FUNCTIONAL DISABILITY,,,,,,,,,,, WHICH IS HERESY.

    CREATE PRO PSYCHOLOGICAL BLACK PANTHER PARTY AND FIGHT FOR THE MEANING OF THE PSYCHLOGICAL TRAITS/(PHENOMENOLOGY OF THE PSYCHE) IN APOLLONIAN EGO DEAD CAMP FOR PSYCHE, AND IF YOU CAN NOT WIN – DIE WINNING.

  • Psychosis or depression are the answers to the apollonian egoic fundamentalism which killed the meaning of the psyche, fantasy, imagination. IT IS A RATIONAZISM WE LIVE IN.
    Psychosis, depression are the answers, the unique way of seeing the reality, not the problems with living , as if it psychopathology was something which don’t belong to psychological/human reality. Well this is psyche, and mental health utopists want’s to get rid of it. Mental health steal the meaning of psychological traits and leave only empty dehumanizing nominalism.

    “The psyche can no longer by held by its old containers of Christian culture….”

    “AND WITH SOUL’S RETURN, THE LITERAL MAY LOSE ITS DOMINION”

    “AND THIS PSYCHOLOGY, FOR WHICH WE ERECT GREAT BUILDINGS TO WHICH THE STUDENTS FLOCK, WITH ITS LIBRARIES, LECTURES AND LABORATORIES, JOURNALS AND THERAPIES, MENTAL HEALTH CLINICS AND MENTAL HEALTH GRANTS, HAS BEEN AND STILL IS IMPOTENT.
    NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING” JAMES HILLMAN, RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY

    “To move toward a renaissance, psychology would have to abandon one of its tenacious Reformational convictions.
    It would have to move from a concern with the moral to a concern for imaginal,the image before the judgement, the imagination before the human….”

    THE MORE WE HOLD BACK FROM THE RISK OF SPEAKING BECAUSE OF THE SEMANTIC ANXIETY THAT KEEPS THE SOUL IN SECRET INCOMMUNICADO, PRIVATE AND PERSONAL, THE GREATER GROWS THE CREDIBILITY GAP BETWEEN WHAT WE ARE AND WHAT WE SAY, SPLITTING PSYCHE AND LOGOS.
    THE MORE WE BECOME TIED BY LINGUISTIC SELF- CONCIOUSNESS, THE MORE WE ABDICATE THE RULING PRINCIPLE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL EXISTENCE..————————–!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THEN WE TURN TO THE RATS OF SKINNER, AND THE DOGS OF PAVLOV, THE GEESE AND WOLVES OF LORENTZ -TUNE INTO DOLPHINS OR CONSIDER MAN A NAKED APE – ON ORDER TO FIND PROTOTYPES FOR HUMAN BEHAVIOR, INDICATES TO WHAT EXTENT WE ARE LOSING OUR SPEECH AND WITH IT OUR SENSE OF A DISTINCTLY HUMAN NATURE. IT IS NOT ANIMAL PROTOTYPES WE NEED FOR DISCOVERING OUR NATURAL PATTERNS, BUT PERSONIFIED ARCHETYPES EACH OF WHOM WE SPEAKS, HAS A NAME.”

    “BUT MAN IS HALF ANGEL,BECAUSE HE CAN SPEAK.”

    JAMES HILLMAN, RE -VISIONING OF PSYCHOLOGY

  • And when you will know the cause, the suffering will end…. Your thinking is a trap.The thinking about suferring is a trap greater than the suffering itself. Erroneous thinking about the essence of the psychological suffering is the main activity of the psychiatry. You are searching for answers, but forget about the meaning of the suffering itself.
    The meaning is the worth.

  • When Black Panthers Party were to defend their people they used the smile and essays….
    It is very hard to explain why movements against psychiatry will fail, it is so complex.
    The main reason is because people do not feel respect towards psyche. This is why:

    1. They didn’t read Hillman and Szasz.
    1. They won’t read it.

    If someone ask me how could someone give attention to psyche, and how to do it, I would say that psyche need Dionisian/Hades ruler who will defend psychological traits rather than getting rid of them. THIS IS LOGICAL, ISN’T IT?

    You must reverse the meaning of apollonian ego traits, and to understand what means apollonian ego, you must read Hillman Re- visionig psychology and Szasz.
    The Apollonian state must stand on the head.
    To give psyche the meaning, the proper meaning, you must build the respect towards death, not like today, we live as if death does not exist, and that is why it exists more than ever. You must destroy theological vision of psyche, because theology is not psychology. THEOLOGY COMPLETELY REJECT PSYCHE, BECAUSE nature of the psyche IS PAGAN.

    1.To build respect towards psyche people must use another kind of perception, another kind of language and to accept the mythical reality (LOGIC OF THE PSYCHE) in the place of EGOIC scientism/medicine/pseudo medicine (apollonian EGO religion/ego psychopathy)

    2.To build respect toward psyche, apollonian traits of character must be in the proper place of the psychological hierarchy, not like today in the center.OF THE PSYCHE. AND APOLLONIAN ARCHETYPE IS THE LEAST PSYCHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPE, and this is why they are so cruel towards psyche LOGIC.

    They steal the REAL/PHENOMENOLOGICAL meaning of the psyche and replace it with false empirism to build their hegemony over the rest psychological parchetypes, that is why people called autistics and schisophrenics are being killed –they are PSYCHOLOGICALLY beyond apollonian ego assumptions.

    SO THEy DO NOT EXISTS AND DOES NOT MATTER. THEY ARE BEING USED AS A SLAVES.

    3. In the center of the psyche there is death, so it also reverse the meaning of life and materialistic world. Death/respect for death/ must be in the center of life, not in the coffin.

    4. Destruction of the DSM is indisputable. In that place ought to be phenomenology of the psyche with psychological hades in the center.

    To give the meaning to the the psyche, means to destroy the hegemony of apollonian ego, which is in the center of the state. In the center supposed to be psychological Hades TRAITS.

    THERE IS NO OTHER WAY. PSYCHE MUST BECOME A VALUE AND NOT THE ENEMY OF THE STATE.

    EVERYTHING ELSE ARE JUST USELESS AUTHORITARIAN GAMES, AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE THE APOLLONIAN EGO TERROR/ NEGATION OF THE PSYCHE MEANING.

    This is not the state, this is inquisition appartus. And you must read Szasz Manufacture of madness, to understand that. THIS IS PURE LOGIC.

    Without reading Szasz and Hillman (as many books as you can) no one will understand about what I am talking about.
    I do not believe in the state in which the currency are the money. The currency is the meaning, and the money are just the money.

  • HI, Christian it is amazing what you have done for psychological man, you are a hero and those who DIED are also.

    http://inklusionspolitik.de/en/

    Too fight psychiatry we need a political party sth like black panther’s party. We need to protect the psychological territory completely devastated by fetish of apollonian ego traits – money and power. To do it there is a need of phenomenology of the psyche and the hierarchy of the psyche in the place of inquisition apparatus (DSM false scientism + law + economy+theology = Manufacture of madness by Thomasz Szasz, Re -visioning psychology James Hillman) apollonian ego traits and fetish should be on the second position, behind the psychological reality and the psychological reality IS NOT A PROPERTY OF APOLLONIAN CLAIMS.

    To resurrect psychological man we need to destroy the DSM claims (apollonian arrogance) towards the psychological reality, we need to destroy their false psychological leadership, the apollonian are the least psychological, and have a pretensions to the psychological reality like those that psyche is a SOME KIND OF ROTTEN/SICK meat.
    Well you, the authoritarians, YOU ARE THE ROOTEN MEAT YOU ARE SEARCHING FOR, EVERYWHERE

    BECAUSE PSYCHE MEANS MORE, PSYCHE IS MORE. AND THE FATHER OF PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY WAS NEVER THE APOLLO, HE IS TOO SHALLOW TO RULE HUMANITY, PSYCHOLOGICAL WORLD. WE NEED TO RESSURECT HADES OR ZEUS AS THE HEAD OF THE STATE AND REPLACE THE APOLLONIAN INHUMANE HEGEMONY, with MYTHICAL REALITY WHICH IS THE PATTERN OF TRUE HUMAN TRAITS. REMEBER ABOUT IT. THIS IS LOGIC, AND NOT THE SCIENCE FICTION.
    AND APOLLONIAN DO NOT ACCEPT THE PSYCHE BECAUSE THEY WANT ONLY THE POWER AND MONEY AND THEY SEE THE PSYCHE AS EVIL OR A PROBLEM AND NOT THE HUMAN NECESSITY. BECAUSE APOLLO IS THE LEAST PSYCHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPE.

    GIVE PSYCHE/HADES THE MEANING AND DESTROY APOLLONIAN HEGEMONY. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO RESSURECT HUMANITY. AND RESSURECT HUMANITY MEANS GIVE THE MEANING TO PSYCHE, PSYCHOLOGICAL HADES. HADES OR ZEUS, THEY WERE THE FATHERS OF THE PSYCHE, NOT APOLLO AND HIS MEANINGLESS FETISH OF POWER AND MONEY.

    And those are the real roots of psychological socialism, to resurrect real psychological hierarchy and stop building an apollonian utopia. The currency in psychological socialism is A PSYCHOLOGICAL MEANING, and the money are only a money. This is human LOGIC which may destroy the inquisition apparatus which imitate and destroyed human state.

    PHENOMENOLOGY OF THE PSYCHE IN THE PLACE OF FAKE DSM WHICH IS INVISIBLE COMMUNISM AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE INQUISITION IN ONE.

    MANUFACTURE OF MADNESS

    RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY

  • Well maybe they should tray Skywalker light sword on psychiatrists. It’s touch could turn them into humans again, who knows.
    Diagnosis of authoritarian mind -psychopathy, no own thoughts, imagination impairment, lack of empathy, tendency to drugging and killing people for money

    cure -DEHUMANIZATION, imprisonment, Szasz and Hillman twice a day, and give them some pills or torture them if they were psyche resistant.

    psychiatry must be abolished and people who thinks that psyche is EVIL and a state enemy, rather than THE PSYCHIATRY itself – SHOULD BE PUNISHED for not being humans and for not seeing humans in the others, for stealing their identities for not having respect for psyche.
    PHENOMENOLOGY OF THE PSYCHE IN THE PLACE OF DSM/ EMPTY NOMINALISM AND PROPER PSYCHOLOGICAL HIERARCHY WITH APOLLONIAN EGO AS THE LEAST PSYCHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPE.

    Without phenomenology and without builiding the proper language for describing human psyche, nothing will change. Hillman and Szasz books should be a handbooks in every school.

  • We need to defend psyche from apollonian theologic state of terrorists, like The Black Panther their people. Yes. When sb is happy, no one talks about him in medical/clinical way, and when sb is sad, there must be clinical cause, this is insane. This is completely rejection of psychological meaning of not being happy for just not being happy (and this is theology), because we can’t all be psychologically stupid enough to be happy. And there is a Hades reality to which belongs also the least psychological apollonian—– HAPPY ALL THE TIME—— archetype. AND HE IS NOT THE ONE WITH ABILITY TO JUDGE. NO ONE IS, because Hades is the ruler of psychological reality and apollonian must obey to the rules of hades. Because that is the psyhcological truth. Apollo is not the father of the psychological world, it was Zues and Hades. Apollo is too shallow and to blind to recognize the deep psychology, that is why people in HADES are invisible and rejected.

    People happy are NOT REAL in psychological meaning, they are living out of touch with reality of death, there are not psychological, they are EGOIC . AND THE DEATH IS THE ONLY TRUTH IN PSYCHOLOGICAL LIFE. Mentaly healthy means – psychologically blind to death/psychological reality WHICH IS the truth REALITY.

    And the problem with the easy apollonian archetype is that they won’t admit it THAT THEY ARE UNREAL (BECAUSE WE ARE HEALTHY), because PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN IN RENEASSANCE MEANING SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO IS WORSE.
    I am sorry, but theology and rulers of shallow materialistic (ANTIPSYCHOLOGICAL) world means nothing for the law of psyche, for death.

    LIKE I SAY PSYCHE NEED THE THE PROPER LANGUAGE, THE TEMPLE NOT THE HOSPITALS FOR VICTIMS. WE NEED PHENOMENOLGY OF PSYCHE IN THE PLACE OF DSM AND BIOLOGICAL PSYCHE FALLACY. AND THE RESSURECTION OF PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN.

    JAMES HILLMAN RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY.

  • If you want to know why people die by suicide you must know the phenomenolgy of the psyche, and stop talking about external hardships all the time, because hard life/ hard work is never as hard as touching the death in psychological world, internal world. And there was only one psychologist who write about the phenomenology of suicide/psyche and it was James Hillman in “Suicide and the soul”. His best book is “Re-visioning psychology.” The best book of the millenium. Psyche it is not a brain, brain it is only a TV screen, and the program belongs to psyche, not to normalcy, theologians or psychiatry. And authoritarians must obey to the laws of the psyche, not the psyche to barbaric apollonian mind, which result in creating of the chimera of the psychiatry AND BIOLOGICAL PSYCHE BS, which means that psyhe does not exist at all or it is some kind of brain illness which is destroying the “proper healthy apollonian system of “normalcy” “——-ILLEGAL HUMAN PSYCHE IN THE THEOLOGICAL FAKE WORLD. ANd psychiatry is a creation of psyche haters and the least psychological, remeber about this fact.

    Psychiatry/theologians and materialistst know nothing about suicide and the phenomenology of the death in the psyche. God IN THE BIBLE, never say anything about that suicide is a sin, it is a theologians fantasy.

  • And if we are talking about curing someone from mentall illness, we mean, how to get rid of psyche traits using some kind of pseudo medical ritual, because APOLLONIAN EGO WANTS TO RULE THE PSYCHE. This is simple negation OF PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY without giving HUMAN right to feel something which in many cases it is not connected with the will (free will is a theological term) and it is not connected with biological impairment. The biological BS it is only a form of controling the psyche, by authoritarians. And authoritarians are controlled by economy and theology or some kind of spiritual system which has got nothing in common with PSYCHE. And as a enemies of the psyche, in THE LEAST PSYCHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPE, they don’t give a f, about phenomenology of the psyche, or that a state of mind is a PSYCHOLOGICAL NECESSITY. Psychological reality collides with the apollonian sick addiction to ego, power, money. State which destroy psyche and state with apollonian ego traits in the center it IS, AND WILL REMAIN———PSYCHOPATH.

    Like I say before, theologians and spiritualists can’t see the necessity of the psychopathology, they are seeing only enemy,problem evil or something to get rid of. They stole the HUMANISTIC PHENOMENOLOGICAL meaning.

  • Mental health theory, it is an escape from psychic reality to authoritarian ego apollonian utopia. It is a cowardice and omission of the true human psychology, suffer, death. Human psyche is not a fly in the room, it is not something to get rid of, or some kind of illness to cure, it is something which has got its meaning and authoritarians, as the least psychological people, stole it, STOLE THE PHENOMENOLOGY OF PSYCHE to built their sick domination over psychological reality, the dehumanisation system – DSM.
    Psyche is not a property of apollonian ego fundamentalists/authoritarians, medicine. It is psychological reality which has got nothing in common with ego apollonian claims and utopian theories, like mental health, mental illness or that psyche is a medical thing. IT IS NOT……Psyche has got nothing in common with medicine (pseudo medicine) it is PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY, phenomenology, empathy ——— which was stolen by Apollonian EGO FIXATION (scientism, medicine, theology, law, and biological psyche BS)
    I do think that this is sect that destroyed the real state, human state. Read, Hillman.

  • It is psychological communism, no one cares, because apollonian ego don’t lose nothing which is beyond meat and blood, and the psyche of mentally ill, is non materialistic and meaningless, so they can’t see that humanity is being robbed, because THEY ARE NOT .

    Psychological traits are not the money that dissapeard, so no one gives a f.
    Those who are being destroyed are those beyond hegemony of mindless normalcy, so no one cares. And those who are, are propably dead or nearly dying OR VOICELESS. And that is why they are today heroes. Because the voice of the normal means nothing to humanity.

    The more human traits psychiatry will change into fake illnesses , the more inhuman and demoralized would be those who would called themselves normal.

    This is invisible PSYCHOPATIZATION of society.I do not think that the strongest will survive but I am sure that those who survive will do nothing for humanity, they will built technology and the economics. Like good proper working brainless machines – the system main need. And we should remeber that apollonian system need no humans, it just need their work and money.

    Psychiatry violence/hate toward human psyche is double edged sword. The were able to convinced people that psyche is evil trash and that the most inhuman ego apollonian traits are the healthiest ones. So society won’t protest, because it is not HUMAN psyche which is being destroyed, it is that INHUMAN PSYCHE OF MENTALLY ILL – slaves. People without identity.

    Normal people cant’see a human being in someone who has got diagnosis. And maybe that is because NORMAL are not humans anymore, and only psychological men are.

    Look at the movies “X – man”, or “Divergent”about the girl who does not fit into any of the groups (she sees more and she is called INCAPABLE), especially these two movies. Listen to what they are talking about, (after reading Hillman). They are making movies about psyche hegemony and they don’t know it, because psyche knows better, and they, as simple anti psychological apollonians are not aware of the deeper meaning of what they are doing. Listen to the dialogues in Divergent or X man –THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MENTALLY ILL —–BUT IN HUMAN LANGUAGE.

    Apollonian ego can talk about human psyche using proper human language only in sci fi movies, because the scenarios are not written by psychiatrists, but by psyche herself, she found the way out, using apollonians imagination, without their knowledge and without their permission.

  • I am tired of the fact that theologians/inquisition in medical disguise, ARE MAKING SATAN/EVIL AND HUMAN MAIN ENEMY FROM THE NECESSITY TRAITS OF HUMAN PSYCHE. AND THAT THEIR PREYING ON THE PSYCHE IS CALLED —-JOB OR PROFESSION, science, theology, law (apolonian traits)

    And that HUMAN psyche is supposed to be an effect of trauma or other BS.
    Psyche is psyche, apollonian ego perception is only one of the many many others possible modes of perception. Abslolutely disagree with assumptions that PSYCHE and its main mode of perception called -psychosis is an effect of trauma or poverty ———BS———-MADE FOR MONEY, AND MONEY AND DRUGS ARE THE MAIN FETISH OF soulless APOLLONIANS WHO PREYS ON PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN TRAITS.

    IT IS A MAIN TASK OF PSYCHE TO CREATE PSYCHOSIS, AND NORMALCY IS AN EGO APOLLONIAN FUNDAMENTAL ASSUMPTIONS/ FANTASY ABOUT HUMAN PSYCHE. THEY DO NOT ACCEPT PSYCHE, THEY HAVE ONLY THEIR CRUEL INHUMAN CLAIMS TOWARD STH THEY REJECT FROM THE BEGINNING. HOW CAN YOU HELP SOMEONE IF YOU HATE HIM FOR WHAT HE REPRESENT?

    IT IS NOT HELP, IT IS CHARACTER ASSASINATION.It is an anti psychological inhuman terrorism.

    Apollonian ego along with the theology made HUMAN PSYCHE a main enemy OF THE theological, (and EGO APOLLONIAN) state and made those kind of people starving and left them on the streets. YOU HAVE STOLEN THEIR PSYCHOLOGICAL REALITY for building AN EGO UTOPIA FOR YOUR OWN PURPOSES, SO THEY ARE HOMELESS.

    AND NOW YOU ARE PREYING ON THEM,AND BLAMING THEM, THAT THEY REMIND YOU OF THE PSYCHE YOU HAVE DESTROYED…….

    Give back psyche its PROPER meaning, you AUTHORITARIANS who have stolen it and still are preying on psychological man. You are imapired, not the psyche.

    RE -VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY.
    AND BEWARE OH HADES. YOU REALLY OUGH TO.

  • Normal people aren’t healthy. They are just the majority. The less psychological, the more normal (apollonian) they are, the more psychological (Hades reality) the more disturbed- in authoritarian fictional language.

    In psychological language there’s no mental health and there is no mental illnesses THERE IS ONLY PSYCHOLOGICAL NECESSITY, and we are being told that this psychological necessity is evil or mental illness (Re-visioning psychology),
    BECAUSE OUR PSYCHE IS BEING DEFAMED DESTROYED AND MISTAKEN WITH apollonian ego dominion, SPIRITUALITY OR THEOLOGY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE PROPER LANGUAGE FOR DESCRIBING PSYCHE ,BECAUSE IT WAS STOLEN BY TEHOLOGY/CHRISTIANITY = INQUISITION IN MEDICAL DISGUISE.

    The problem is that people don’t want to know what is hiding under fictional words, because they are too stupid to even noticed that there are words with false inhuman meaning. We are trapped in primitive language, and that LANGUAGE HAS GOT ABILITY TO KILLING PEOPLE.

    The lack of PSYCHOLOGICAL imagination is because of economy in the center, and simple spirituality neraby. There should be PSYCHE and phenomenology of psyche in the same line with economy and spirituality, and there is a big hole there. We are being robbed. And people do not know even know about it, that ‘s why Hillman’s Re-visioning psychology ought to be a handbook in schools, and at homes. God has got his bible, AND WE PEOPLE, OUGHT TO HAVE OURS. If not, church believers will use theology in medical disguise to kill (psyche =satan/evil for theology) humanity as something worse that theological/spiritual soulless illusion of humanity. SAD BUT TRUE. Manufacture of madness is Szasz best book. The best book written ever, in the same line with Hillman works. Because THAT ARE PRO PSYCHOLOGICAL BOOKS, NOT THE ANOTHER APOLLONIAN EGO INHUMAN SABOTAGE OF THE PSYCHE. APOLLONIA EGO IS A TERRORIST, AND THE LAW, THEOLOGY AND THE SCIENTISM IST THEIR FORM OF EGOIZATION/WDESTROYING THE HUMANITY and the phenomenology of the psyche.

    THE HAVE STOLEN THE THE REAL HUMAN STATE AND THE HUMAN PSYCHE. I AM NOT SURE IF ANYONE KNOWS THE ROOTS OF STEALING THE LANGUAGE AS WELL AS HILLMAN, EMPATHS OR PHENOMENOLOGISTS

    NO ONE KNOW ABOUT IT AS WELL AS THE POETS WHO USED IT FOR DESCRIBING HUMAN NATURE…. AND MAYBE POETS OR CHILDRES AT SCHOOLS SHOULD START TO WRITE STH LIKE THIS —-, I SAW F33 YESTERDAY, IT WAS WALKING THE STREET.

    KILL DSM, DO IT TODAY.

  • Apollonians are authoritarians minds, the least psychological, they have their duties, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE EASIEST LIFE AND THE DUMBEST PSYCHOLOGICAL LIFE EVER. The rest, the PSYCHOLOGICAL minorities are psychologically beyond the blindness of apollonian shallowness,

    AND THEIR PSYCHOLOGICAL WORK IS WORK OF THE TITANS, NOT THE PSEUDO MENTAL ILLNESS. IT IS TITANIC psychological EFFORT, their psychological life and life in material meaning is much more HARDER THAN THOSE OF Apollonians, and they should not be attacked by FAKE AUTHORITARIAN antipsychological inhuman presupmtions. There is a hierarchy in the psyche.
    Read Hillman, you will understand better.

  • ‘….Conversely, reacting emotionally, getting upset, getting flustered, raising one’s voice, is seen as a sign of individual weakness. In some contexts, this might be seen as correctable (‘learning to act more professionally’); in others, even more insidiously, as a sign of deeper, underlying pathology (for example, ‘unstable mood or emotions,’ ‘interpersonal lability,’ or a disordered personality). Within this logic, the anger, despair, frustration, confusion, and shame of the proverbial ‘other’ is all too easily used to confirm existing forms of psychiatric othering and justify gatekeeping strategies and policies that create space only for those service users/survivors who don’t get visibly angry or sad, raise their voices, or ‘emote.’’

    Absolutely Agree.
    Psychiatry exists only to ruin the human psyche and it is to serve the fallacy that only apollonian traits of character are human, the rest is an (fake) inhuman illness. We lose the meaning of the words like – Apollonian, Dionisian, Hades like, because we do not know anything about psyche and what actually word psyche means. Like I say, psychiatry destroys people mainly because of psychopatic inhuman language which has nothing to do with the REAL human psyche. They create pseudo medical utopia and destroy state, the same way inquisition did (Manufacture of madness)

    Why we are searching for psychological help in institution that hates psyche? Because thet told us to. And THEY are enemies of the psyche or people in the least psychological archetypes, they are apollonians, so they think they are better, because they do not touch the psyche reality (they call it mental illness). We must remeber that, people who call themselves mentally health are the least psychological, and they ARE using PSYCHE and psychological man for their own purposes.

    The built artificial problem from what they have firstly get rid of using toxic ideologies like theology and ego apollonian hegemony, and then they are blaming people for traits of character THEY HAVE BANNED. Artificial institution which destroyed and banned human psyche serves the human psyche. Yeah, right.

    They serves only themselves, the apollonian destroyers (law, scientism, psychopathy, theology in the place of psyche) False pseudo medical empirism in the place of human psyche. I believe that they destroyed the REAL state, human state. I believe that this is not even a state, because what kind of state is the state in which real human psyche is a fake illness? Everyone shoul read Hillman’s Re -visioning psychology.

    We are living in artificial inhuman reality created by apollonians fictions and rituals.And the main trait of Apollo state of mind is the lack of emapthy. So, now you know the roots of evil. And this is not human psyche that destroyed the state, THE Apollonian sect did it using their shallow fantasies about psychological reality.

  • THERE MUST BE PHENOMENOLOGY OF PSYCHE IN THE PLACE OF FALSE CLINICAL EMIPIRISM (DSM fallacy, biological psyche fallacy). Psyche must be seen as a value, something that you can not control by medicine, as something greater than small clinical;false assumptions, and the state must be pro psychological, not pro theological. Psyche in the place of church, but without gods, it is not a religion it is politheism, because nature of psyche is polytheistic not monoteistic like the false theological vision of human. Only then, there would be no mentallilnesses, only psychological necessity. Re visioning psychology, and Manufacture of madness.

  • Szasz was a great thinker, but he was a sociologist, not a psychologist and he was nihilist. There’s no psychologists in reality today, because psychologists must to admit that psyche exists and it is not clinical thing it is mythical reality, pagan reality, that’s why church and theologians are destroyers of psyche and the main reason that psychiatry exists as a inquisition in medical disguise. If they don’t do it, if they do not use the phenomenology and phenomenolgical language (Hillman)rather than false empirism (DSM, biological psyche, clinical psyche) they will be destroying psyche and that would be sabotage as it is now. I mean, if the state is to be humanistic and pro psychological there must be psyche not theology/church in the center of reality/of thinking.

    The language is full of theological barbarism which has got nothing to do with psyche and the victims psychiatry are the wictims of theological way of seeing psyche. James Hillman : Re-Visioning psychology and Manufacture of madness, are the HUMAN bibles, because theological view of psyche destroys humanity. We must know the roots of psychiatry the same way Hillman was aware of it. Without this books, there s no REAL knowledge about psyche.

  • Authoritarians are legal evil, and their nests are the nest of the vipers, imitating help, but they are only using you FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES, and then they go to church, and look at Jesus who was killed by the same evil antihuman state, 2000 years ago. They get stronger there, smarts beasts, they are charging their batteries looking at the cross, because they still like to crucify others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nczWRxOalkY

    Do what you have to do, do not listen people behind the desk. I do not have a pity for pseudo mental illnesses, I leave it for the authoritarians and their shallow graves in the place of hearts and the brains. We never would be as advanced as humanity as Indians were, they didn’t have mental hospitals, because they did not disowned their souls to mammon and pseudo medicine.

  • Hi, I know Hoffer, I read his works and also Andrew W Saul, I do not agree with them. Because there was a time when I took suplements and I felt better and then after some time I feel nothing at all. And some other time I feel worse taking it. The problem is that your psyche makes you AVAILABLE for FEELING BETTER OR NO, AND THIS IS NOT A BRAIN, it is something more, it is psyche, and Hillman writes about it. I really think that FLESH BLOOD medicine without connections with psyche phenomenology is something useless nad yes, souless psychopatic. Without role of the pain and sickness in life we built a wellness(theologic )utopia, and illness OF THE BODY and the psyche are enemies (satan,sin), not the part of life. And then people says about those who are in pain mentally or physically -, what a terrible life this poor thing must have…and that’s is all THEY CAN SEE, because they are living in their small utopian reality of constant well being.This is fixation.

    There is a connections between your psyche and body, and sometimes feeling bad is necessary for the psyche. I do not like Hoffer, because he was an utopist. I read that his witamins helped the half of the patients, and the other half were completely inert to witamin therapy, AND NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THEM.
    They stayed in the hospital, because that was their role, to represent sth which was beyond normalcy, it was psychological work.
    It would be nice if someone give them something more than empty dull mourning about mental health fixation and niacin theories. We want to find a way out out of labirynth, and finding the way out is a trap, because we lose the meanig of the path itself. Because you are not here and now, you are looking/waiting for utopia. Hoffer gave people false hopes and, and sometimes it works. But it was not the witamins that cure, we are more than biology. And brain is only a TV screen, the program not belongs to TV or Hoffer, but to the station. So take away your screwdrivers from psyche, please.

    Everyone just want to feel good, it is not enough. Mental health fixation is destructive utopia, we need courage and truth about psyche, not mental health utopists and their drugs or witamins or theologic BS, for building that utopia.

    Like I say, you may have half brain and still act normal, because psyche need it, and you may die because of Staphylococcus on your tampoon, because death was looking for you. This is psyche.
    Hillman knows that, I know it too. You can’t choose the program, the programm choose you, and then psychiatry calls that schizophrenia, because they are the guardians of their fixations over controlling everything (apollonian ego). And they are not psyche defenders, Hofeer was not either. They are only guardians of their fixations their own utopian believes in their fetish, like psychiatrists and theologians. And who is watching over psyche? Rats.
    Sorry for mistakes, it is not my native language.

  • I just want to say that psychiatrist whose job is to silence the psyche by drugs/fetish is an egoic fundamentalist who has got nothing in common with empathy or phenomenology, with HUMANITY. Someone who want to get rid of psyche and make someone normal (apollonian ego state of psyche) is not someone who gives a human psyche meaning, he is the antipsychological fundamentalist. Psychiatry is what it is and psychiatrists – they are PSYCHE HATERS, while they should be EMPATHS OR PHENOMENOLOGISTS LIKE HILLMAN and should stay away from PSEUDO MEDICAL judgements. IF YOU WON’T GIVE PSYCHE A phenomenological MEANING USING PROPER LANGUAGE, AND ITS RIGHT PLACE IN THE psychological HIERARCHY, YOU WILL BE DESTROYED (AUTHORITARIANS – LAW RELIGION AND THE DSM USERS) THE SAME WAY APOLLONIAN EGO DESTROYS TRAITS OF HADES- with great ease and cruelty.

    We should remember that Dionysus and Hades were rarely on the surface, they weren’t welcome at the Olimpus, however every god knelling down only BEFORE HADES, because he was respected, you don’t have to like Hades, you don’t have to love him and agree with him, but you must respect him or he will beat you down. I am talking about REAL traits of character and mechanisms of the authoritharian antipsychological games -arrogance of Apollo (science, law, theology =DSM AND PSEUDO BIOLOGICAL PSYCHE), that arrogance and scientism, which destroy the meaning of the other gods THAN APOLLO, will destroy Apollo (state). And that would be collective psychosis.

    The problem is that you can’t recognize psyche and separate it from completely antipsychological APOLLONIAN EGO HEGEMONY, FROM satan,evil, from empty dehumanising nominalism, from theology, the same way you can’t separate psyche from the brain. And one believe in satan, and the other in mental illness, ALL ARE WRONG.
    Because you should believe in HUMAN PSYCHE and do not give greater meaning to NORMALCY (APOLONIAN EGO) money, theology, or pseudo medicine. You don’t have to love Hades, you – Apollonian psychiatrists – but you ought to respect its traits. When I am talking about Hades, I mean all the traits that are valuable for psychological reality/logic and everyone knows that this treasures are not treasures for apollonian ego -authoritarians -who are too shallow and the least psychological, to accept its great meaning, the same way Aryans did not not accept Gypsy/Poles/Jews and steal away their identity.

    We are talking about discrimination of the psychological minorities, not about CURE mental illnesses, CURE is not the point, the point is attitude psychiatrists towards psyche. AND CURE THE MENTAL ILLNESS MEANS IN authoritarian LANGUAGE – TO GET RID OF TRAITS OF THE PSYCHE (people) BY APOLLONIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS. GET RID OF MENTAL ILLNESS – MEANS TO KILL -IN THAT OR THE OTHER WAY. The problem is that authoritarians thinks they control psyche, psychological HADES, the death. No you are not, because psyche is not your property, it belongs to realm of the death and this is far beyond apollonian ego claims, and the death is not your property either. Read Hillman and give away that, what you have stolen long time ago. TRUTH.

    The problem is that the state is ruled by apollonians and they want to cure psyche which means to get rid of people who represents other traits of character/psyche than apollonian(psychiatrists). It is IDEOLOGICAL discrimination – to fight with sb PSEUDO mental illness. BECAUSE HE DON’T HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS ———- HE REPRESENT THE TRAITS OF THE PSYCHE other than APOLLONIAN ——-and STATE IS A DEATH CAMP FOR PSYCHE, AND PSYCHE IS A GYPSY FOR STATE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISCRIMINATION OF THE UNACCEPTED PSYCHOLOGICAL MINORITIES/TRAITS WHICH STATE WANTS TO GET RID OF USING PSYCHOPATIC APOLLONIAN PSYCHIATRY.

    And that discriminations is because of toxic ideologies psychopatic language and lack of meaning of the psyche which was stolen by theologians, scientism, medicine (psychological apollonians) SHALLOW LOGIC,

    LACK OF EMPATHY IS MAIN TRAIT OF APOLLONIANS RULERS. HOW CAN THEY HELP? THEY ARE IMAPIRED!

  • To go higher and evolve means to change pseudo brain BS into the sometimes cruel reality of psyche without theological hypocrisy. To change cowardice and lies of pseudo medicine into psychological truths, even if that hurts a lot and we lose hope. (hope is theological) Because people must grow up and this is impossible if psychiatry exists. And psychiatry and apollonan ego claims and its main interests makes people childish, immature, stupid, small. Psyche makes them geniuses in their own unique kind, and psychiatry destroy the greatness of human psyche.

    Genius means : from Latin, ‘attendant spirit present from one’s birth, innate ability or inclination’, from the root of gignere ‘beget’. The original sense ‘spirit attendant on a person’ gave rise to a sense ‘a person’s characteristic disposition’
    ——–and now Apollonian ego BS——–
    which led to a sense ‘a person’s natural ability’, and finally ‘exceptional natural ability’ (mid 17th century).——–

    this is how they started a invisible war with the human PSYCHE, HA!

  • Wihout phenomenology of the psyche there’s no psychological reality and witout psychological reality there is no humanity. Everyone should read at least Revisioning of psychology and Manufacture of madness. Without knowledge about roots of the psychiatry and ideologies behind it, people never find out what is going on in authoritarian games. People do not even know what is psyche, they think it is a brain and this is disaster. There is higher mythical reality and people disregard this kind of reality, because it has got no connections with science. Another, ego Apollonian fundamentalism trap. There is a logic and truths about human nature in myths and real and logic connections between myths and life , because myth is language that psyche speaks, and psyche do not speak through science. We are destroying more sophisticated forms of knowledge because of scientism religion. I do think that psychiatry is destroying state the same way inquisition did and that everything which is based on DSM including pseudo biological model of psyche, is in reality, destroying the real state – human state, which construction is unknown now, because of false ideologies destroying humanity and I blame for this the shallow traits of apollonian ego and theology which destroy truths about psyche. The power of theology over human psyche is extremely destructive.What’s more i think that state can not be called state if psyche is seen as human enemy or illness. This is just a form of parasites reality, it is fake and unreal. We see our psyche through distorted narrow ego apollonian lens. And apolonian ego knows no empathy, its perspective is too shallow and arrogant towards the deeper psychological reality.

  • The problem with society is that its fixation over the easiest Apollonian ego archetype destroys the brutal rest of psyche, including the realm of the death IN THE CENTER OF THE PSYCHE. That’s why we have psychiatry, because psyche and death is seen as invader in anti psychological spiritual society. The problem is that psyche is just psyche, but authoritarians use apollonian ego to terrorize psyche, using ideologies like theology, science, pseudo medicine/pseudo rationalism to destroy the rest of the psychic reality, like dionisian, Hades traits. We must remember that Zeus was god of the psychic reality, Zeus OR Hades, there was no Apollo there. And all the gods represents the REAL traits of the character, but in authoritarian reality, legal is only one of them – Apollo and Apollo is the the least psychological, and is the farthest from the death..No, go for help.

    The problem with the state is that, there is no human state. Because, the law, science,theology are anti psychological, they represents only their own interests – NOT THE INTERESTS OF THE HUMANITY, and religion represents the interests of the church. Human psyche is banned, and when human psyche is banned, what kind of human are we?

    And what kind of help can find someone whose psychological reality collides with death, if the society reject the death, death is seen as evil, psyche is seen as evil and Jesus overcome death…with alive people in the closed coffin.
    No one who thinks logical, will be searching for help from the todays inquisition which exists ONLY to destroy the traits that he represents. Psychiatrists represents Apollonian ego traits and apollonian ego hegemony (BUSINESS,LACK OF EMPATHY, APOLLO IS PSYCHOPATIC), they are not HUMAN psyche defenders and they reject the death in the psyche -its heart.

    If you search for stupidity in the psychic reality, go to Apollonians. Hades and Dionisus has got no time for kids. Authoritarian reality is not the same as psychological reality, and in my opinion psyche it is worth thousands times more. There’s no amount of paper money by which you can buy anything in psychological Hades. Money means nothing in the realms of death/psyche. The problem is not the death, the problem is the arrogance/MATERIALISM/nihilism/theology-transcendence of the authoritarian NORMAL EGO APOLLONIANS reality and their claims towards the REST of the psychological archetypes. Psyche means nothing. But it will be everything and when the psyche will means everything, Apollonian inquisition apparatus will say goodbye to DSM power, and THEOLOGIANS will say goodbye to illusion of spiritualism and the hegemony of the spiritualism over the HUMAN psychic reality.We must remember that psychiatry has got its own interests, and there are not the interests of human psyche, and that theology has got its own interests, and those interests are THE interests of the theologians, not human psyche. Humanity does not exists without phenomenology of the psyche and without the death. There’s only interests of the ideologies alien to human psyche.

    Of course that spiritualists and representants of the ego DICTATORSHIP feel extremely good in THEIR hell made for everyone else. but not for them, not for “normal”. Definition of the state. James Hillman was the only defender AND NOT THE ANOTHER SLAYER, of human psyche.The only worth war today is to bring back phenomenology of the psyche in the place of ANTI – HUMAN brutal primitive power of DSM, and this is the greatest of war. There’s no other war, and all the others means nothing. Don’t fight with the death, fight with those who want to destroy death,misery and then build an utopia of immortality ruled by brainless/soulless people and their money.

  • I want psyche to be something to which people have respect, not pity. So I use the language thats make a heroes of psychological people rather than poor victims of fake illnesses. And that language builds up a psychological empire not a small cage for apollonian ego claims.
    I don’t have an idea what’s mean terms like – depression, schizophrenia and so on, because diagnosis without human aspect is a dehumanisation, not help or empathy. Empty anti human nominalism is just an empty nominalism, they want people to hang themselves after given them this awful souless judgements.

    Without higer vision and mythical logic and without respect for death/psyche, we never get out of this brain garbage psychopatic language made up by Apollonian arrogants.. You can agree with your diagnosis, but for me that language is as dead as people who use it. As long as we will see in psyche only a problem to solve and sth to get rid of only to be normal, people would remain antipsychological authoritarian psychopats and psyche will be a trash to get rid of for authoritarians who preys on psyche phenomenology. If there was a pagan mythical archetypal psychology in place of todays DSM, theology and apollonian ego utopian claims towards the rest of psyche, there will be no mental illnesses, but rather people would see spiritualism/theology as a form of illusion and psyche AS A NECESSITY OR INEVITABLE painful TRUTH, NOT fake ILLNESS TO CURE. To call real psyche a fake medical illness means to escape from the psychological reality.

    James Hillman Revisioning psychology. I suggest everyone not to cure psyche, not to TRY TO GET RID OF it, but rather to accept and build a higher language for psyche phenomenology in place of mirages of chemical cure and well being in nirvana (spiritualism). Heroes of descent in place of masters of denial. We try to get rid of something which we call fake illness, rather than to accept inevitable. Normal aren’t noble, they are just antipsychological Apollonians with utopian claims to the rest of the psyche.
    What I am trying to say that there’s no chemical cure (drugs and alcochol), but we still have balls to accept this.
    THIS IS MADNESS, NO, THIS IS PSYCHE! (Sparta)
    THEY will heard this, sooner or later.

  • People with authoritarian mind like to search for help among the same psychopats. It is their problem, even if it helps them. The problem with apollonian ego patients is that they are on the same LOW LAME PSYCHOPATIC ANTYpsychological level of perception as psychiatrists. Apollonian ego means – strong authoritarian mind (ARYAN RACE). They hates every aspects of psyche, because they are too weak to face it, their ego is a king and psyche is ruthless army destroying arrogance of ego fundamentalists. Titans, people beyond ego archetype, aren’t weak like them, they are far more psychological than authoritarian mind which is a value only in PRO psychological system, not in this. There is a hierarchy in the psyche reality and authoritarian are not even invited, because their small ego is too lame to conquer with great psychic reality. Whats’ more authoritarians are theologians even if they are atheists. And this is the funniest thing, they think it is rationalism or medicine, but psychiatry is HIDDEN theology in medical disguise,the inquistion. Hillman, Szasz still waits for smart people.

    Apollonian ego is antypsychological despot.
    Psychiatry is an ideology create to destroy psychic reality with hegemony of apollonian ego traits – economy/techne and relligion spiritualism theology which will produce psychological HUBRIS.
    It has nothing to do with reality of the psyche/phenomenology of psyche. It is a terrorism of one archetype, the least psychological one, and in the center of apollonian ego there’s only money, science, technology, theology – TECHNE. NOT HUMAN PSYCHE. To understand that we must read about the roots of psyche, and psyche is pagan, not Christian. And the state is pro spiritualism and pro apollonian ego, the rest of HUMAN psyche – WE – are the antichrist for them. Psyche is evil for psychiatrists, and that’ s why psychiatry should be banned, not the psyche or the psychological man. Psychiatry is antipsychological because it is ruled by hidden theology. not rationalism or science. Read Revisioning psychology.

  • People who are killed by psychiatry are voiceless, before and after their death. Victims of psychiatry are pioneers of new, we’re cutting the trails for lazy ones, who can’t see a danger in psychiatry. Not understanding the phenomenology of the psyche, which does not exist in capitalism, is the main reason of dehumanisation and depopulation. Lack of phenomenology shallow psychopatic language and lack of knowledge about pagan mythical roots of psyche is a tragedy for humanity, in that place we have pseudo rationalism,pseudo science, theology = Apollonian ego traits, and psyche begins far beyond ego Apollonian traits of character. Homo psychologicus is banned, and homo psychologicus is the future. I suggest everyone to read Hillman Revisioning psychology, because this is the only book which shows what happened with homo psychologicus and why psychology was replaced by theology and rationalism in medical disguise = inquisition. Psyche, especially psychological Hades traits are banned by state and that state use hidden theology in place of psychology, that’s why people are being killed. They are victims of primitive perception and vulgar psychopatic jargon. Language is everything, and psychiatry knows that. The roots of psyche remains unknown, because we are using teology in place of psychology. State and religion banned human psyche (in place of phenomenology we have the system of judgements from arrogant antypsychological -apollonian EGO point of view -DSM) and that’s why normal (ego apollonian) and religious people does not pay Cezar a bloody death toll. Because only the human psyche is for state antichrist/satan/evil/illness/problem NOT A HUMAN NECESSITY. Inquisition still exists (manufacture of madness)

  • Mental health nurses- and what if someone do not represent their mental health assumptions? This is psychological facism, psyche means much more than only “normal’ – apollonian ego. So they will destroy everything which is beyond mental health strategy , which means, all human psyche – dionisian traits, psychological Hades and so on. Only apollonian ego is considered to be one healthy perception, the rest are illegal – Gypsy, Poles, Jews, Black, Russians =mentally ill.
    There should be PSYCHE DEFENDERS againts ego apollonian psychological fundamentalism. Mental health means – white Aryan race power in psychological world, the rest are to be exterminated. Because the only legal perception is to be rational ego apollonian member of society. Mentally ill are UNRECOGNIZED psychological minorities, like black (and so on) in a death camp ruled by invisible today (because of the lack of humanistic phenomenology of the psyche) – apollonian ego dictators. They are victims of primitive language and very low knowledge about the psyche in primary Greek meaning, because apollonian ego is psychologically blind, and have the least psychological perception – THE PERFECT BRAINLESS AUTHORITARIAN SLAVES. There is hierarchy in the psyche reality, and apollonian ego is on the borders of psyche (Apollo perceptionis out of touch with psyche) and they pretend they are the rulers, because of economical/semantics power they have over the PSYCHOLOGICAL minorities, in the middle of psyche there is death, no economics or authoritarian assumptions about mental health useless ideology. Middle finger of the most “severe mentally ill ” (slave)should be their god. Psyche logic is greater and far more different that authoritarian antypsychological psychopatic kind of perception. They have no knowledge about phenomenology of the psyche, their psychological world/perception starts and ends on money/economics which they consider to be the most valuable and ONLY ONE .And we should noticed this, that they who wants to rule the psyche are the least psychological, and they use language and economics to destroy the more valuable psychological minorities, which are also the poor ones IN MATERIALISTIC WORLD RULED BY EGO FUNDAMENATLISTS. Authoritarian world is the psyche worst enemy, because rationalists and theologians/spiritualists science law technology relligion(apollonian)have got nothing in common with human psyche,and human psyche is evil/satan or problem/sickness for them. Psyche means nothing for mental health representants, but those consider mentally ill should pray to their psychopatic apollonian ego. Never do this. Never pray to those who prey on psyche. There’s no good and bad in the ku klux klan, because Ku KLux KLan is evil.. Mental health in psychology means the same as Aryan race in materiallistic world. Remember that those considered normal gave Nobel Prize to a A HUMAN KILLER .Read Hillman -because he loves human psyche and psychiatrist loves only money and their power over those, they consider -useless and weak.Apollonians = your dirty authoritarian games against human psyche are a disgrace. Remeber that dionisian/hades powers awaits. No one ever wins with them. No one.

  • Psychiatry is a theology in medical disguise. And psyche roots are pagan, Greek, imaginal, not scientific, but imaginal, poetic, which means – polytheistic. This is a death camp for psychic reality ruled by church/theology, medicine and science and they have one master – pseudo rational apollonian ego and economy = DSM power.
    Yes, psychiatric language is only an empty dehumanising nominalism, for biurocratic machine to work for authoritarian sect, they all prey on the buried by theology/pseudo rationalism invisible body of human psyche, SEEN TODAY AS EVIL OR PSEUDO BRAIN DAMAGE.. You could use diagnosis only with proper understanding of human psyche, as a psychological map, not as a theological pseudo scientific condemnation in medical disguise. But without phenomenology and proper great meaning given to HUMAN psyche, we have only authoritarian BS with scientific pretensions in pseudo humanistics system RULLED BY MONEY.
    Manufacture of madness, and Re- Visioning psychology are the ONLY BOOKS WHICH DESCRIBE the reality behind word STATE, mental illness, psyche. Without this knowledge and phenomenology in place of DSM, ther will be no human reality, only authoritarian fictions for money. Psychiatry created AUTHORITARIAN reality,not human reality.. . And psyche does not exists because there’s no language describing it, THE HAVE BURIED pro psychological language and the phenomenology of the psyche. The victims of psychiatry are victims of primitive psychopatic language and psychiatry knows that the language is everything. Medicine, theology and science destroyed psyche, and that’s why church has got Vatican, and psyche a death camp.
    Psyche/ psychological man don’t need DSM judgements or cure but the pro psychological BLACK PANTHER’S PARTY AND FREEDOM FROM AUTHORITARIAN FAKE REALITY CREATED ONLY FOR BIUROCRATIC MACHINERY and church. AND NOT FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL MAN.
    Church talks a lot about antichrist and numbers and nothing about PSYCHIATRIC DEHUMANISATION. It is not strange? Maybe the antichrist system will be a punishment for church/world/science silence?

  • The causes of psychosis are that we are psychological beings, there is just psychological necessity. The causues of normalcy is that apollonian ego called apollonian rational mind that way, the simplest antypsychological perception, out of touch with the reality of psyche means – normal. Everything which is PSYCHOLOGICALLY higher than simple apollonian RATIONAL ANTYPSYCHOLOGICAL perception they called ENEMY= mental illnesses. Mental illness means – we don’t wanna know what hides beneath our monicker because we are living from dehumanisation not phenomenology/empathy. The paid us not for empathy but for judgement and theological condemnation of evil in your brain. BU.
    Everything which is beyond rational ego apollonian mind is Gypsy/Polish or Jew for authoritarians. What about pathological and psychopatic perception of the psyche -the psychopathy of apollonian rational ego – the advanced psychopathy/lack of wisdom of normal perception. THE PSYCHOPATHY OF NORMAL PEOPLE? James Hillman, RE- VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY.

    If there was phenomenology of the psyche there would be no church, because church/theology condemned the death and the death is the psychological essence of the HUMAN psyche. Condemn the death by theology, call it evil and you could do hidden holocaust to those who symbolise it (psychiatry), and give death greater mening than the state/church. It is about give a meaning to psyche. And apollonian have stolen the psychic reality, the temple and build the prison for their own purposes -money.
    This is inquisition, and psyche is the enemy of the theological state. Is psychosis normal? Nice question, especially when we ask in death camp for the psychological man.

  • If psyche means only something to get rid of, without HUMAN psychological PROPER ATTITUDE/phenomenology,acceptance behind the state of psyche, this is only a terror of people who called themselves normal, and others – unfit.
    Psychological minorities today are in the same situation as were witches gay/lesbian/black people. Psychological man is a new black. Pathology is a psychological necessity, not a sin against theology, god or normalcy.

  • Choice? Why someone should eat poisons only for being a docile normal man in psychopatic land of people who destroys their own psyche in white gloves? Gardener loves their garden, priests love their church, psychiatry hate and reject human psyche for money. Psyche means nothing for them, because they want only mental health utopia. Mental health reject psychopatology from the beginnig, called it useless evil.We protect mental health utopia and thats why we have psychopatology/phenomenology in rubbish bin, and people in coffins.
    No wrong, no right, necessary from psychological point of view – that should be PHENOMENOLOGY, EMPATHY answer for psychopatology, because paranoia is one of the language that psyche speaks and no one will win with it, if you don’t have a respect for your own psyche, why do you want it from people who use it only for money and their own purposes? Psychiatry is just the answer for needs of mindless antyhuman NORMAL mob who disregard its own psyche, called it useless evil and then they can pray to norma,god, economy without any barriers. It is not about doing well, but being truth to what psyche is. We lost the meaning, we want only to get rid of psyche and stay normal.

    WHAT FOR? F

  • Everyone see psyche,psychosis as economical disability -wrong, THIS IS THE GREATEST BS of the authoritarians.
    IT IS A VERY HARD PSYCHOLOGICAL WORK. IT HAS ITS PRICE and it is priceless.
    You think that even HARD work is harder than psychological hades? YOU ARE WRONG, APOLONNIAN.

    PAY, PAY PAY AND PAY NOT WITH MONEY, BUT WITH great WORDS OF RESPECT. AND IF YOU F. CAN’T FIND THE RIGHT WORDS, BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID, KNEEL DOWN BEFORE PSYCHE/DEATH WHICH YOU have stolen AND Sold TO PSEUDO MEDICAL .MF.. WHO CONTINUE THE POLITICS OF NSDAP. I HOPE YOU READ THIS, MAGGOTS.
    YOU KNOW, WHO YOU SHOULD PAID? TO ANNELIESE, BECAUSE WHEN SHE WAS IN psychological HADES YOU AND CHURCH WERE F. FOR MONEY and you sold/ BANNED her great psychological work to this pseudo medical parasites.
    AND IF YOU READ THE HILLMAN WORKS AND SZASZ MANUFACTURE OF MADNESS, YOU WILL KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT EVEN A STATE, BUT A INQUISITION APARATUS – PSEUDO MEDICAL MONSTER.

  • We are hostages of apollonian EGO hegemony ITS /LOGIC/SYSTEM/ECONOMY. APOLLONIAN EGO MEANS STATE. PSYCHE MEANS HOSTAGE, SLAVE ..
    .In the center of the mythical psyche is death not “mental health” and authoritharian/apollonian logic/ way of thinking is out of touch with experience of those called “mentally ill” (BANNED), who TOUCH THE REALITY OF THE psyche, AND SEE IT, NOT those who judge them – SIMPLE AUTHORITARIAN MIND, AND AUTHORITARIAN MIND DON’T GIVE S. ABOUT IT, THAT HE MAY MEANS A LOT FOR THE STATE AND ECONOMY, AND NOTHING FOR THE human psyche/HUMANITY. They can’t touch NOTHING, can’t see NOTHING AND all what authotitarians are doing IT IS TO JUDGE FROM THEIR ANTYPSYCHOLOGICAL POINT OF VIEW, AND KILL BY WORDS AND TOXINS.

    THIS IS PSYCHE! They will heard it, I am sure about it.

  • Nice written. I think that when we talk about body we must know its anatomy, To speak about psyche, we should now its mythical geography. Without phenomenology of the psyche, we don’t know about what we are talking about, we are blind. Psyche it’s not something spiritual, because we are talking about psyche, not the spirit. That’s why I am amazed by spiritual emergency, because spirit has got no pathologies, it is simple easy happy and bright. There is a language of dreams and the language of so called “reality”, psyche has got many languages. Psychotic language has got its own logic and it is far beyond logic of rationality, it is a higher language, not lower than rationalism. Apollonian ego logic is lower than logic of psychological Hades, its logic ist not as trivial as apollonian. I suggest you to read James Hillman, Re-visioning psychology, it may help more than my words. Hillman write about apollonian ego and PSYCHOLOGICAL Hades reality which is deeper and far more sophisticated than SIMPLE APOLLONIAN RATIONALISM. Psyche is something mythical, it never was a biology, science or medicine, it was always a phenomenology. IT ALWAYS WAS. But no one reads, and very few knows Hillman works. Myths are logic for advanced humanity, not for scientists.
    Science and brain has nothing to do with the logic of psyche. To understand psyche you need use love empathy and knowledge about reality and logic of different states of psyche, because psyche it is not rational, its strongly metaphorical and poetic. Only Apollonian ego is rational and that’s why we have psychiatry, they think that psyche begins and ends on apollonian rationality. Forget about it. Apollonian cold logic is cruel toward poetic metaphors=authoritarian harsh mind killed psychological poetic man. THEY CALLED LANGUAGE OF THE PSYCHE ==WORD SALAD. Because they are rational Nazists WHO HATE psyche,. Psyche is a gypsy to Apollonian, REMEBER ABOUT IT. PSYCHE IS A GYPSY TO APOLLONIAN RATIONAL FACISTS.
    There’ s no mental illnesses, there are only forgotten/banned/ridiculed languages. To know psyche, you shoul kill psychiatric jargon,because this language is toxic and create hidden holocaust.

  • People psychologically out of touch with the death THINKS THEY WIN WITH it, BEACUSE THEY ARE STRONG. NO, they are just out of touch with this reality, TOO PSYCHOLOGICALLY SHALLOW. Some poeple represents the death, they symbolise the death only for purposes of the death realms. Capitalistic materialists call them insane, because they see no value in death (PSYCHOLOGICAL KIND OF BEING), but they still can make some money on it, and use psychological people as slaves, THE SAME WAY WHITE USE BLACK. The want stupid docile plebs who will work for economic hegenomy, and then Cezar can use their own power and church to destroy human psyche (and they will be thankful, they will work for this kind of slavery), because there’s no PSYCHOLOGICAL WORK/REALM – THERE IS ONLY MATERIALISTIC WORLD/ WHICH MEANS SPIRIUTUAL,THEOLOGICAL. THERE IS —-PSYCHOLOGICAL WORK, AND YOU CAN’ HUSH UP THIS REALITY WITH DISREGARD THEOLOGY AND MONEY.

    Do you think that Anneliese Michel WAS AUTHORITARIAN? SHE WAS PSYCHOLOGICAL HUMAN BEING, ONLY PSYCHOLOGICAL. GIVE ME ONE PSYCHOLOGICAL OPINION ABOUT ANNELIESE MICHEL, FORM PHENOMENOLOGICAL POINT OF VIEW. THERE’ S NO, THEOLOGISTs THINK SHE WAS MENTALLY ILL OR POSSESED, BECAUSE THE DO NOT ACCEPT WHAT THEY SEE AND THEY SEE SATAN EVERYWHERE ,NOT PSYCHE, THEY USE ANNELIESE FOR PSYCHIATRIC OR THEOLOGICAL IDEOLOGIES/PURPOSES.TOO BUILD THEIR HEGEMONY OVER PHENOMENOLOGY OF THE PSYCHE AND CONTORL PSYCHOLOGICAL PEOPLES.
    SHE WAS IN PSYCHOLOGICAL HADES —-BANNED REALITY, BANNED BY AUTHORITARIANS WHO ARE USING THEOLOGY AND PSYCHIATRY AGAINTS HUMAN PSYCHE, TO DESTROY PSYCHOLOGICAL PEOPLE, WHICH THEY presumptuously CALLED —–MENTALLY ILL.. PSYCHIATRY AND THEOLOGY BANNED ANNELIESE, BECAUSE THEY BANNED DEATH/ PSYCHE TO BUILD THE THEOLOGICAL STATE RULLED BY PSYCHIATRY.
    ANNELIESE WAS A PSYCHOLOGICAL PIONNER, THE MASTER OF THE DESCENT, AND THE CONTRADICTION OF JESUS SPIRITUALITY, WHICH HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH PSYCHE.
    PEOPLE WHO DIED IN MENTAL HOSPITALS ARE PIONNERS, A VICTIMS OF THEOLOGY AND APOLLONIAN HEGEMONY OVER THE REST OF PSYCHE. THEY ARE BEING USED BY STATE CONSTRUCTED ONLY FOR MATERIALISTS AND THE PSYCHOLOGICALLY SHALLOW/BLIND NORMAL MASSES. ——-HADES IS BANNED/PSYCHE IS BANNED——There is difference between spirituality and the psyche, people believe in god, while in psyche realm there’s no gods to believe in, because they represent human afflictions, love, war, passion,we don’t have to believe in them, because they create the human reality. God and spiritual world represents only the claims to that psychological reality which for theology is only a sin. Theology trespass against human.

  • Death is the main reality of the psyche, it is in the center. The problem to acknowledge that fact is that apollonian are psychologically beyond this realm and they use theology in medical disguise to fight the death. You won’t win with death, that’s why death needs a temple, not stupid hospitals ruled by apollonian ego, they are maggots and ruthless killers of the psyche reality/phenomenology. They are stupid, rude and psychologically blind, which means —-mentally health/strong (yeah, right when you feel good, you are strong, WHEN YOU ARE TOUCHING DEATH, YOU ARE WEAK, YEAH RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU SAY SO) bahahahahhahh,to be mentally health means —out of touch with the reality of death in psyche, mentall wellnes means to be completely antypsychological. Psyche needs the defenders, we need PHENOMENOLOGY OF PSYCHE IN PLACE OF JUDGEMENT/DSM WHICH IS EMPTY NOMINALISM. AUTHORITARIANS ARE SUBHUMANS, machines.THEY ARE USING HUMAN PSYCHE FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES.
    Read Re-visioning psychology, only true attitude to psyche could save psychological human. Everything what does authoritarians/psychiatrists to psyche is simple terrorism and sabotage.

  • Theology. You think Plath kill herself, because “she has got no friends”? There are people terrorized by death, it is a internal terror, had nothing to do with external reality, we are talkin about the realm of death —–, you don’t know nothing about phenomenology of the psyche, about death in the psyche. Read Suicide and the soul, you are too theological. Yoy think that people kill themselve because they are lonley. Jesus. People like this are not human ANYMORE, they are titans. Apollonian has got depression, and they think they suffer. THEY THINK, THEy SUFFER, THEY ONLY SEE DEATH FROM SAFE TERRITORY and this is enough for them to kill themselves, THEY DO NOT TOUCH IT. Titans touch it ——severe mentally ill – it is how NORMAL APOLLONIAN BEYOND DEATH TERRITORY, CALLED THEM.ARROGANT, SELFISH IDIOTS.

  • It is useless to write about antidepressants.Write about JAMES HILLMAN and his revolutionary books which is Suicide and the soul and Re – visioning psychology or, Manufacture of madness – those books are greate weapons. Society does’t know about them, they know only bible which has got nothing to do with psyche,remove word satan from the bible and put a word “psyche” in the same place, you will know everything, psyche means =evil . This is a sabotage and betrayal of them —-so called, normal, christians and so on Normalcy, means nothing good.
    The word “normal” comes from the Greek norma, which was a carpenter’s square, that right-angled tool for establishing straightness.

    more of Hillman attitude
    http://www.terrapsych.com/hillman.html

  • Of course, not. But in theological society everything which is connected to death is an illness. You all should read Revisioning psychology, I know that, this book is necessary bible for everyone who don’t know nothing about roots of psychiatry. This book and Manufacture of madness, are pure logic. Neccessary knowledge about ideologies like transcendentalism, nihilism (LAING) theology/christianism, spiritualism – neglectance, materialism and many others, which are obstacles before getting to know what psyche actually means. We – psychological poeple are victims of theology. Church has Vatican and power and money, psyche has got only asassins.

  • Szasz says that psychoterapy is only a talk with another, maybe hostile person. It is not even a medicine. So we say that sb has got trauma, and then his feelings are not psychological AND HUMAN anymore, they are seen only as disrupted and then we think that sb should correct that person, using magic/ fetish like psychotherapy. I am sorry, we say sb has got trauma, because our small world didn’t accept things hidden behind words trauma, we want cure trauma, because everyone should be normal. NORMALCY IS antypsychological TERRORISM. This kind of feelings are not accepted, so we want to cure it, pretend to cure, because we want to get rid of them, we want to ged rid of pain, get rid of death in psyche, that’s why they invent term MENTAL HEALTH,to control phenomenology of the psyche by economics. If someone is in psychiatric hospital, he is there because they don’t want him in economic EGO APOLLONIAN state, we don’t want psyche inside authoritarian SOULESS ANTYPSYCHOLOGICAL state, so we decided to get rid of PSYCHE- only get rid of, WITHOUT EXPLANATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE REAL STATE, NO, WE CALL IT MENTAL ILLNESES – MENTAL ILlNESSES MEANS ALSO NOT REAL,WE TAKE BACK THE AUTONOMY OF THE STATE to get rid of it …..and pretend that there are false illnesses in place of TRUE HUMAN PSYCHE.
    There should be places for extraordinary states of mind, which are far more advanced THAN APOLLONIAN EGO =NORMALCY. We are not the ones who can judge/cure sb psyche,because we are not the owners of the psyche, we can help,to accompany….To do that, we must admit that psyche exists,THAT PSYCHE BEHIND EGO APOLLONIAN exists and IS STH GREATER NOT, SOMETHING WORSE than simple state of normalcy. There is hierarchy in psychic world, but economics and materialists destroy this logic to control and destroy PSYCHE We are not able to imagine worLd without diagnosis, because DSM is the power, psyche should be the power, that own economics laws. Apollonian ego -normalcy is not even a psyche, it’s just psychological mediocrity, without psychological consciousness. We should say it loud ====normal means easy, apollonian ego means normal======psyche means MORE THAN NORMAL,MEANS TITANS, BECAUSE THIS PEOPLE FEEL MORE THAN NORMAL EVER WILL, FOR EXAMPLE ANELLIESE MICHEL, PSYCHE OF THE TITANS ARE NOT AUTHORITARIAN property, IT BELONGS only TO PSYCHOLOGICAL WORLD, WHICH WE CALL today -SEVERE MENTALLY DISTURBED, because we do not accept, and do not know what is it, because phenomenolgy of the psyche is hidden behind the mask of false diagnosis/theology and pseudo medicine. Diagnosis is just empty nominalism and economics dehumanisation, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH empathy and phenomenology.
    You must read Revisioning psychology to understand me. Stop begging for money, fight, if you can’t win, die in fight to restore the phenomenology of the psyche. We can’t be humans with F65 in place of feelings reactions. Economists and materialists should stand lower than psychological people, because they are psychologically simpler.. Because of them we can’t win,because they take back our psychological worth, using economics and bilious medical language.
    Psyche exists. PSYCHE EXISTS, AND PSYCHIATRY AND PSYCHOTHERAPY DESTROY IT, THEY DO NOT CURE, THEY MAKE only NORMALISATION as if only normalcy was true….., THEY NEGLECT REAL PSYCHE……restore phenomenology and give BACK STOLEN WORTH to psyche. Ego apollonian is normal, even depression is not titanic, TITAN BEGINS HIGER THAN DEPRESSION, TITANS ARE PEOPLE LIKE ANNELIESE MICHEL,and those called “SEVERE MENTALYY DISTURBED” who were killed BY PSYCHIATRY, WHICH ARE CALLED TODAY SCHISOPHRENICS, AUTISTICS —PSYCHOLOGICALLY BEYOND ASSUMPTIONS OF NORMALCY. THOSE WITH LOW CONTROL ON EGO, BECAUSE EGO IS NOT IN SIMPLE APOLLONIAN WORLD OF PSYCHE ANYMORE, EGO IS IN PSYCHOLOGICAL HADES (CHRISTIAN HELL FORM WHICH JESUS SAVE US,,,,YEAH, RIGHT TELL THIS TO ANNELIESE,,,,,GET IT? IT IS STOLEN PHENOMENOLOGY OF PSYCHE REPLACED BY THEOLOGY). YES, THEY ARE human and TITANS, NOT normal helathy and SEVERE MENTALLY DISTURBED,OUR PSYCHOOGICAL GREATNESS IS CONTROLLED BY SEMANTICS, UGLY UGLY PRIMITIVE ANTYPSYCHOLOGICAL SEMANTICS AND UGLY PRIMITIVE ASSUMPTIONS OF APOLLONIAN EGO IDEOLOGY.
    GIVE BACK STOLEN WORTH TO PSYCHE. IT IS OUR TASK, MISS JESSICA.
    I write this because for me psyche is value. I spit on your grave, YOU economists,materialists, transcendentalists, nihilists, spiritualists, BECAUSE YOU DESTROY HUMAN PSYCHE .Read Revisioning psychology, you will understand this point of view. Do not cure psyche, build PSYCHOLOGICAL EMPIRE USING GREAT WORDS. BECAUSE OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL LIFE IS INVISIBLY DESTROYED.
    FIGHT. WHOEVER YOU ARE, FIGT WITH THIS.

  • Yeah, thanks god you have psychiatry, it was inquisition before it became psychiatry. Remember Szasz? Theology is the first and the greatest enemy of the human psyche. Read Szasz again, and then Hillman Revision. Spiritualists has got nothing in common with psyche, psychology. There was a nice movie about it -The Master, which shows horrendous effects of spiritualists fraudulence. They are arrogant selfish and blind. Manufacture of madness and Revisioning psychology. Satan is real, god is real and psyche does not exists or is some kind of brain damage. Hellelujah. iF YOU DON’T HAVE KNOWLEDGE WHAT IS PSYCHE, HOW CAN YOU CREATE NEW LANGUAGE WHICH REPLACE PSYCHIATRIC EMPTY NOMINALISM BS? IT IS LOGIC, YOU WON’T DO IT.

  • I think that negative erotic is when male actors in porn movies has got no visible heads. So rude. Hillman go beyond this ego medical BS, erotic is poetic, psyche is poetic, because human are poets, not biological machines. If I went to psychiatry with every sign of, what they call – mental illness I would be dead already, I won’t go, because they don’t like gods there like Jack Nicholson, they prefer docile stupid egoic plebs without any knowledge of semantics manipulations or phenomenology, because psychiatry use false empirism and false semantics, I AM POET SO I KNOW BETTER THAN THEM WHEN WORDS MEANS NOTHING. When you see EVERYTHING through shitty glasses, you will see only shit. They really like to see shit everywhere.
    Read Hillman, not to learn him by heart, but for seeing psyche from another advanced dimension, I read Hillman, many many years ago, in your language and I was shocked, really. Especially because of invisible differeneces between theology and psychology There s no even awarness of this hidden semantics manipulatiuon. Theology kills psychology, that’s the fact. We are materialists and empirists, we give a strange name to sth which is seen as not normal and then we search for the causes…There’s no logic in this false empirism. And for example, I am sad so I have depression and the causues of my depression is chemical imbalance. I feel in love with woman so I am a lesbian, because……I am who I am ——-should be enough. We are gods and docile plebs are those who search for their name given them by authority,because they can’t accept the truth. People are weak, not because they feel depressed, but because they want to feel happy all the time and reject death, and this should be stopped, this terrorism of happiness. Read Hillman. We don’t have mental problems, we have problems with those who want us to believe that mental illness and mental health exists. To reject false cure is to accept the cruel truth about human nature. tHE RISE OF THE THERPEUTIC SOCIETY SHOULD BE STOPPED. READ Hillman REVISIONING PSYCHOLOGY or suicide and the soul. Because without this awarness we wouldn’t be able to see the roots of false semantics. Szasz is not enough, Szasz run away from psyche, he was a nihilist. To give new meaning to death/psyche is our duty as humans.

    http://www.newkabbalah.com/hil2.html

  • Hi. I just want to say that changes are impossible in this kind of society, because of culture destroyed by teology. I do think that, as James Hillman says, language builds society, we have no society, we have only people who are working or dying without money and church and prayers, this is not a society, this is only economics and religion/spirituality/misticism which destroys PSYCHOLOGY. The only true change is to accept death AND create not hospitals but TEMPLES, yeah, it may sounds funny but it is not, believe or not, if people reject dead on the teological grounds, the should learn respect to PSYCHE AND THE DEATH which is psychological,not teological. Without knowledge about roots of teological hegemony over the human psyche there’s no use in talking about changes. Without phenomenology AND JAMES HILLMAN ONE TRUTH VISION OF PSYCHE.ONE TRULY HUMAN. I MEAN THE FIRST 50 PAGES OF RE-VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY SHOULD CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE FOREVER.
    Yeah, I am talking about a positive kind of psychological tyranny. There are no changes without knowledge about political medicine which is psychiatry (Thomas Szasz) and about roots of what is psyche and what is not the psyche, which is teology (James Hillman Re-visioning psychology) and economics of psychiatry eg Peter Breggin or Getzsche. Remove teology and church and build psychological hegemony which is TRUE nature of human. Spirituality/teology is a convenient escape from psyche from roots of human experience, it is church hegemony. You must destroy people who believe in psychiatry the same way they destroy psyche by teology. They do no s. about psyche, but know everything about teological vision which is false. Death is not the problem, the problem is teology and spiritualists. People love god and destroy themselves in the name of teology NOT GOD, bahahah. Death is not a problem, you can not help everyone AND YOU WILL NOT HELP EVERYONE, because suicide is also a part of life, we are not the Saviours . It is THE attitude, no respect to death, fear about death and teology which completely remove death from a part of life. Read Suicide and the soul. It is not about help, it is about attitude. Atittude towards psyche and the death THE ATTITUDE IS THE KEY. BUY RE-VISIONING PSYCHOLOGY TO YOUR KIDS, AND TELL THEM THIS IS A NEW BIBLE, A HUMAN BIBLE. Psychiatry is BS. The problem of you people is that,you search for money to help people all the time, ok I understand, but this is only ANOTHER FORM of trap. It is better when someone will kill himself in hospital and they will call him a weak ill freak, or if he kills himself wherever, and the will say ok, I understand I remember what Hillman says —-WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE, WE DO NOT HAVE A HOPE – psyche is not teology, WE ARE GOING TO DIE. ALL OF US. Medicine will never ever cure dead,never. No one will, god tries and looks what happend. How stupid weak we all are. Do not search money or cure, search for truth and your balls cut out by false ideologies. Sorry for language, I can’t write, I am just 12 years old.