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Children and Adolescents on Prescribed Psychotropic Drugs and their Parents

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  • #19552
    PC
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    Hi Emily,

    Thank you for sharing more of your story.  Every recovery story contributes to the body of Evidence that will eventually overpower the established practice of psychiatry.  Every recovery story needs to be voiced.

    What made you switch from the road of self-destruction to that of liberation? For me that is a mystery in your case and in all cases.

    #19567
    Belinda
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    I have read this post and feel compelled to reply. I have not yet told my story but I do intend to.

    I really respect what you are doing, and the efforts you are going to for your son. Like others though I do believe this has to be his decision. The most important thing is for you to be there for him no matter what. He needs you, and he needs you to love him, even if he decides to be on these drugs for life.

    There are many many things that can be done to minimise the effects of these drugs and I suggest you look into those. Not perfect, but it will help.

    NO ONE enters the mental health system for no reason. No one begins to take and becomes addicted to illicit drugs for no reason. You can put a person in all the rehabilitation in the world. The fact remains that if they are not willing to confront what caused them to use them in the first place they will not stay clean. Your son has spent most of his formative years controlled by drugs, not knowing how to handle feelings, emotions, etc and of course being told that feeling sad, let alone everything else he experiences is a life long brain disease, which is not normal and not something a normal person experiences. He has been led to believe that ALL of his problems are able to be cured by these drugs. They are not beliefs one lets go of overnight.

    Children are often well aware of the truth of santa long before they admit it. It is estimated that it takes children about 2 years to fully admit he isn’t real, as they need the beliefs that it created for them. If a child does that in relation to something as simple as Santa, imagine what psychiatry does to him, when the media and schools and the like bombards him with information about it.

    The most important thing is not to push him away from you. And the risk of doing that is very great. Psychiatry and the mental health system is more than willing to accomodate him for life.

    While I respect your concerns about diabetes, it is important to get some accurate information. There are TWO DIFFERENT types of Diabetes, Type 1 and Type 2. Type 1 is diagnosed in childhood is a person who is unable to produce insulin in their bodies. They will die if they do not have regular insulin injections, etc. They will require insulin for life. This is NOT what your son has. A type 1 diabetic would be dead if they became obese. Their body simply cannot cope. Type 2 diabetes is caused by environmental factors, diet, exercise and of course medications. Type 2 can be CURED AT ANY AGE. They are not usually treated with insulin injections, but even if they get that severe it can be reversed. There was a person on the Biggest Loser in Australia, who had the worse case of Type 2 diabetes ever seen in this country and was totally dependent on insulin injections. By 6 weeks in he was no longer on the injections, and by 3 months off all medications. 6 months after the show started, his body had recovered so much that you would never have known that he had ever even had diabetes in his lifetime. I am not for one second saying that what is happening is ideal, what I am saying is that it can be changed and later on if needed. He does not need to be this way for life.

    I also know people in Australia who are still on forced treatment orders and did have type 2 diabetes caused by medications, but with a massive change in diet and excessive amounts of exercise they have been able to loose weight and improve the diabetes immensely to the point that they may not have it much longer.

    None of these are ideal. It would be easier for you to not have to face these problems, but the fact is you do.

    When I first started reading this post I was thinking I need to refer you to the Hearing Voices Network, they should be able to help your son. Then I read that you had tried it, without success. They do however have sheets that they give out giving different ideas about how to cope with voices. They are often only one page and may be useful for your son. And of course you have introduced him to it and he will know later on it is there IF and WHEN he deicdes he wants to use it.

    The most important thing is to have information for your son, if and when he is willing to read it. Make sure the copy of Anatomy is available if he wants to read it. Don’t force it onto him. Perhaps keep it on a coffee table in the lounge room. As others have said, start spending time with him as a friend. He needs you as a friend above all else. Try to do more together as a family, and try to make those things exercise based. Perhaps start walking as a family together everynight. Get a dog, a great way to make you walk!! Guide dog programs throughout the world rehome those dogs that don’t make the cut and they make wonderful pets for people who need some unconditional love. They are guaranteed to have basic obedience and some great socialisation. And they have been raised to live inside and to love being with people. They provide a ready made friend, although of a canine variety for any child. Never underestimate the power of dogs. Have a serious look at your diet and see what you can do to improve that. Of course at the age your son is, you are having  less impact on the foods he eats, but make sure what he gets at home is top knotch stuff. Try to help make up for the toxins in his body nutritionally. Above all else encourage and support any activities or hobbies he might have, and promote them. Try to create a relationship with him, based on them.

    If anything trying to go off drugs at his age would be the hardest age to go off them. He is at the peak of adolescents with all the adolescents turmoils that it creates. He is trying to distance himself from family and yet still wants you, and trying to find out the relationship that he wants. He is trying to find his place in the world. He is also realising that parents are not the experts at everything and in fact in many cases they know very little. That is a developmental stage. At a later age when he is ready he will realise it is not about what a person knows, but about being able to discuss things and to find things out together.

    I also strongly suggest you read the books by Bruce Perry. A very very different take on things, but may give some very radical ideas of things to try. They are “A boy who was raised as a dog and other stories from a child psychiatrists notebooks” and “Born for love: why empathy is essential and endagered”.

    The most important thing you can give your son is you and your unconditional love. I know you are going to say that is a given, but you don’t ever want to create a situation in which he questions that. He needs to know that you will still love him and still be with him, if he decides he does want to go back onto the medications. And that does not mean telling him that, it means showing it to him, in what you do, how you spend time together, etc.

    And if there is a way of finding a decent psychologist, then consider seeing them yourself, so you have ideas of what you can do to help your son. At present it is all about what is wrong with him, he needs this, he needs that. The system teaches you that. If the child was blind you would have to learn to live with a blind person. You can’t just tell them to get better and put them in therapy. Of course there are things they need to learn, like how to use a white cane, etc. BUT, your whole life would have to change. See if there are things in what you are doing, which can change, which will make things easier for your son.

    It reminds me of one of the things that Whitaker said when explaining Open Diaglouge. It was not about laying blame. We see it as being in the person or in the parents. We have always blamed one or the other. They see it as the space inbetween. Something in the communication between the group went wrong and you need to work on that. A child can be born with any manner of problems. Some parents cope much better than others. That is not bad. But it does mean that if the parent cope a thousand times better the outcomes for the child are much better. If the parents can’t cope they blame the child. Yes something may have been wrong, but would that wrong thing have created all the problems it did if the parents could give the child everything.  I believe that in 99.9% of cases parents do the best they can do (my personal story will explain this more). You have never stopped caring for your son and doing all you could for him. Placing him on all these medications is what the experts told you and in our society we are expected to worship them. Don’t beat yourself up for what you have done. It is the best you could do. The fact that you have had the insight to question and to research this is to be commended. But what would have happened if you were given some real support and concrete strategies to help your son, rather than labels and therapies for him. If the way you interacted with him changed, rather than blaming him, which is what they did, would it have been differently. I hope this does not sound offensive. I’m not blaming you and not saying you have caused this. Just saying that perhaps it would be different if the interaction between you was different. No one has looked at that. Thay may have put the child in therapy, but it was all HIM needing to change. HIM being the problem. This is not about you being the problem. It is saying that maybe the interactions between you could be better. It may not help, but it may also. Worth trying everything there is.

    Good luck and thankyou for having the courage to stand up for your son and to question all that the experts have told you.

    #19861
    Emily
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    Hey Belinda,

    I’d love to hear your story and eagerly anticipate it as I have already learned much from your writing.  I think I have a slightly different opinion than you in that I did not have any ACEs or specific traumatic event that propelled me into my severe diagnosis and long career with psychiatry.  I had tremendous and ongoing doubt in myself and my abilities to regulate my emotions while having blind faith in ‘progress’, ‘science’, experts’ opinions, and better living through chemistry.  A catastrophic mistake that, because I became so heavily invested in, became increasingly difficult to separate from.  Also, there was not a general consensus in my social environment that my psychiatric treatment was actually an unhealthy choice (I was not actively challenged to question my necessary treatment for my innate illness).

    To PC,

    I really appreciate this comment as it cuts to the chase: I used psychiatry as my method of choice to self-destruct.  Why didn’t I join the circus or become an alcoholic?  If I wanted to destroy my life there is definitely more than one way to do it.  I think a primary factor  that I chose psychiatry was in part because I was raised as an upper middle class white girl which is the target audience and income of psychiatry.  I was in the right time (21st century) and right place (America) in that it was an easily available and socially acceptable method of self-destruction.  I  certainly don’t think I was born with a genetic disposition towards a codependent relationship (needing a doctor to manage my life) or an addictive personality (any brain that gets enough of that serotonin, dopamine, GABA, etc. altering will adapt accordingly).

    I chose it for myself, and I have to live with the fallout and consequences of that.

    How did I liberate myself from my psychiatric bondage?  Really good question as it feels pretty miraculous to me, too.  I certainly would not have been able to foretell it.  The sad truth is that some people do live and die enslaved to psychiatry and psychiatric drugs so I do not take it as a foregone conclusion that I would have found a way out.

    The easy answer is that it did not come from the field of mental health nor professionals.  They were the problem.

    At the time I got to seeing psychiatry for what it really was in my life three people showed me the way: my niece of four, a working-class former alcoholic of 15 years who had been sober and active in AA for only two years, and a working-class guy in India who had once been a hard drug addict and didn’t speak English.

    I need to write about it another time.

    Every human life is a journey that cannot be foretold.  The beauty of life is in its mystery.

    Which is why no one should be condemned with a diagnosis and sentence of a lifetime severe mental illness the way I was at McLean at 20 and your son was at 14.  What a load of crap!  How do they get away with it despite billions of dollars of research that has proven time and time again the complete lack of nary one little shred nor iota of genetic, biological evidence to justify the legitimacy a single socially derived and contrived mental illness?  The truth must be told that psychiatrists are not working with science when they give out these subjective and damning labels.

    Everyone needs to be given the option to walk away from that life.  And I hope they do.

    Emily

     

     

    #19969
    Copy_cat
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    CCHR has a new video this week: For Parents: Facts about child ‘mental disorders’    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlvJTYbUFuk

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