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Louis Theroux – America’s Medicated Kids
Do you think it right to stigmatize a child because he or she doesn’t look people in the eye or exchange greetings? Do you think it right to use that to justify their drugging?
Do you think a therapist who focuses on these things as problems to be solved via treatment is engaging in child abuse? Psychological child abuse? Medical child abuse?
Do you think this should result in a felony conviction and state prison time?
Do you think the children featured in the above video are being used as family scapegoats?
Do you think CPS and the Court should be involved?
Do you think the parents should be convicted of felonies and imprisoned? Do you think that sort of penalty is sufficient?
Do you think a therapist who tells children that they have to accept that their parents are loving and hence blameless, is engaging in child abuse? Felonious child abuse?
How about a therapist who markets himself and his services by presenting this interpretation, along with lots of counter culture credentials. Do you think he is simply hiring himself out as an assistant abuser for the parents?
Felony conviction and incarceration?
Do you think the children shown in the above video are displaying traits which suggest that they have been, or are under, extreme stress, such as commonly found in wars and in concentration camps?
Do you think CPS should be notified so that they can do a well being check, independent of any therapists hired by the parents?
Do you think these situations are indicative of some sort of negative parent v child relationship?
Who do you think should be examining this, therapists hired by the well off parents, or therapists appointed by the court and backed up by court authority?
Do you think any of this should trigger the mandatory reporting laws, as now written, “suspected cases of child abuse or neglect”?
If a therapist does not make the report, do you think they should be convicted of a felony and imprisoned.
Do you think some private practice therapists decline to make the report because that would likely mean losing a paying client? Do you think it is an implicit understanding between the therapist and the parents that no such report will ever be filed, so long as they keep coming to sessions and keep paying?
What do you think should be done with therapists who operate this way?
Do you think that these parents are taking out their frustrations in life on their children?
Do you think that the original reason they even had children was to give themselves a legitimated adult identity?
Do you think the parents are not taking responsibilities for their own lives and not admitting that they have choices, and do you think their children are the victims of this?
Do you think that Munchausen’s By Proxy is a good way of describing these situations, given that we understand now that we are not actually saying that the parent has a mental illness, but rather we are describing a common pattern of exaggerating and inducing behaviors in a child which will result doctors and therapists stepping in? Do you think this should result in a felony conviction and incarceration?
What sort of a life can such a child have, when everyone is saying that they are the problem and that no one else is wrong other than themselves?
Now I ask this of those who have specific experience in these realms, do the cases get reported to CPS? Does CPS act? What happens to the parents? What happens to the doctors and therapists who are accomplices? And to those who do not report?
And so for everyone, are you willing to get involved and try to make sure that these cases result in felony convictions and civil judgments?
Are you willing to make sure that there is intervention into families and that children have escape routes and alternate places to go and other people to connect with?
Are you able to watch a video like the above without being enraged? If it was happening right in front of you, would you intercede? Would you act upon people involuntarily?
One of the ways to make psychiatry go away is to stop licensing it. Then you can also outlaw the drugs, or make them available some other way. And you can outlaw they electro shock and lobotomy.
People can do what they want as it goes to talk therapy, but no reason for the government to be endorsing it via licensing.
Uprising, that is an outstanding video! We all need to learn so much more. Our educations have been diluted and poisoned with propaganda.
So then Frank, I say that we need to start applying pressure. We need to follow Gandhi. He didn’t just try to educate people, because that could take centuries, while those who hold power keep changing the rules.
No, we have to go after the psychiatric system, cause problems for it. And in my view one cannot do this unless they are also denouncing psychotherapy.
Psychiatry and psychotherapy are always about scapegoating. And as I see it, it is always coming from The Family and Capitalism, and these things depend on each other.
So it might not be my family or your family, but more often that not it is. It is The Family, that which is held up as an ideal and which defines who is legitimate and who is not.
Recovery, Religion, Psychotherapy, and Psychiatry are there to keep us outcasts from organizing and fighting back.
Please Join My Forum, as we need to connect, organize and act. Gandhi called it Satyagraha, applying pressure.
It’s in this, not the big book.
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From the Communist Manifesto,
Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists. On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution. The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital.
Reich’s proposed synthesis of Marx and Freud met with approval neither from orthodox Marxists nor orthodox Freudians. The Freudians were disturbed by his explicit sexual radicalism; the Marxist parties had rejected Freud as an example of bourgeois degeneracy. The Marxists were perhaps bothered less by Reich’s theory than by the Sexpol movement he established to promote the sexual and mental health of workers and young people. For Reich took his Marxist psychology seriously and sought a solution in practice to the problem of the class consciousness of the proletariat. “We persist in believing that the fundamental problem of a correct psychological doctrine is not why a hungry man steals but the exact opposite: Why doesn’t he steal?” For an answer Reich brought the insights of Freud directly to the working class, hoping thereby to liberate their sexuality and hence to extricate them from subservient attitudes to authority. Such a direct attack on family life was unacceptable to Social Democrats and Communists. Tampering with “respectable” family life was henceforth banished from Marxist “revolutionary” movements.
Marxism as presented by the German Social Democrats and the Russian communists relied too heavily, they thought, on the concept of the mode of production. Twentieth-century capitalism required new conceptual tools, ones that could account for the failure of the Western European proletariat to revolt. Marxists would have to show, they asserted, how ideological, cultural and psychological factors intervened to deflect workers’ class consciousness from the goal of socialism.
I had tried to speak to this on another thread, about how the dialectic cannot be tied to one place in the mode of production. This has been clear since the 1930’s. And it has been clear that it is really about sexuality and politics since then, and really since the work of Kollontai, going back to 1917.
Its in the 12×12 AA book, not the big book
Nothing you can do if your government violates your human rights?
Sometimes you can organize. But alone it is hard to do much. But I do respect you for the heroic efforts you are obviously making.
Firestarter, what you are saying is tragic, but it makes sense. I don’t live in the country you live in, so I don’t know how things are done there. But as I see it, psychotherapy and psychiatry are used to regulate all those who do not agree with Capitalism and the Middle-Class Family.
find my post about the hearing voices group?
Do people agree that besides going after psychiatry, what we need to be doing is gathering and rallying all those abandoned and condemned people?
Firestarter, I do not live in the country you do. So I don’t know how things are done there. But what you are saying makes sense. My view is that Psychotherapy and Psychiatry exist to regulate and subdue any and all who don’t comply with the standards of Capitalism and the Middle-Class Family.
See my link about the hearing voices group?
Do people agree with me that besides taking down Psychiatry, what we really need to be doing is gathering up all the abandoned and condemned people and mobilizing them?
The challenges facing Venezuela are complex. Like for one thing it is just emerging from oligarchy rule and a neo-colonial state.
Likewise, the questions you are raising about socialism deal with complex issues.
But you don’t seem to want to talk about any of this. Are you the one putting the words onto the pictures?
The central focus of this forum is the psychiatric system. My contention is that psychotherapy and psychiatry exist to regulate and suppress anyone who doesn’t go along with Capitalism and the Middle-Class Family.
Cat, doesn’t what you are doing amount to the same thing. Aren’t you just saying that anyone who supports Socialism over Capitalism is Crazy?
He always knew he was a dark horse, a message candidate. We always knew that too.
What do you think lands someone in Psychotherapy or Psychaitary?
Do you know that on page 90 or 91 of AA’s 12×12 book they tell people that they have to suspend their critical thinking abilities?
Other people having a problem with their posts being dumped?
Cat, so are you saying that anyone who supports Socialism is crazy?