no one said it as good as……
“Coercion masquerading as medical treatment is the bedrock of political medicine. Long before the Nazies [sic] rose to power, physician-eugenicists advocated killing certain ill or disabled persons as a form of treatment for both patient and society. What transforms coercion into therapy? Physicians diagnosing the subject’s conditon as a ‘disease,’ declaring the intervention they impose on the victim a ‘treatment,’ and legislators and judges ratifying these categorizations as ‘diseases’ and ‘treatments.’
TS Szaz
Or Maybe…“Although we may not know it, we have, in our day, witnessed the birth of the Therapeutic State. This is perhaps the major implication of psychiatry as an institution of social control.”
yes .so now we live in the psychiatric dark ages,seems as though doctors are the new priests with power bestowed upon them by the state.
CJ
yea psychiatric ideology uses the same linguistic trap as did the medieval church /state trials, they also had
malleus maleficarum used to confirm presence of witches ,just as DSM is used by psychiatry.
cj
cris jones June 21, 2018 at 6:46 pm
interesting word psych-osis psych from the greek meaning soul or life breath. as psychiatrists dont believe in the soul anyway.
But what the hell, he who controls speech controls thought right?
interesting word psych-osis as psychiatrists dont believe in the soul anyway.
But what the hell, he who controls speech controls thought right?
CJ
A Coda on the Churchill trechery .
The Congress on Eugenics led to renewed public pressure for Britain to adopt eugenics laws. In October 1912, Churchill discussed the proposed laws with Wilfrid Scawen Blunt, who wrote in his diary: “Winston is also a strong eugenist. He told us he had himself drafted the Bill which is to give power of shutting up people of weak intellect and so prevent their breeding. He thought it might be arranged to sterilise them. It was possible by the use of Roentgen rays, both for men and women, though for women some operation might also be necessary. He thought that if shut up with no prospect of release without it many would ask to be sterilised as a condition of having their liberty restored. He went on to say that the mentally deficient were as much more prolific than those normally constituted as eight to five. Without something of the sort the race must decay. It was rapidly decaying, but could be stopped by such means.”[12] and now we have the mental capacity Act in UK,one HELL of a legacy.
If someone talks to God its called praying,If god answers its called schzophenia by psychiatric bull,
CJ
CJ
. If somone in india is walking barefoot and speaking to god and the demi-gods,they are seen as holy men,
The same person seen in western states would be taken to be Psychotic and….
Bleuler ,still seen by psychiatry as a great pioneer of diagnosis .
The eugenic sterilization of persons diagnosed with (and viewed as predisposed to) schizophrenia was advocated by Bleuler.[He argued that racial deterioration would result from the propagation of mental and physical cripples in his Textbook of Psychiatry:.
The more severely burdened should not propagate themselves… . If we do nothing but make mental and physical cripples capable of propagating themselves, and the healthy stocks have to limit the number of their children because so much has to be done for the maintenance of others, if natural selection is generally suppressed, then unless we will get new measures our race must rapidly deteriorate.
shure thang Oldhead, i can recommend a bit of history by way of this perhaps–
José Manuel Rodríguez Delgado (1969). Physical Control of the Mind: Toward a Psychocivilized Society. Harper and Row.
spiffing read!!
Who was a vice president at the first international Eugenics congress?
churchill of course. its all about mental Hygiene. long before Hitler got involved
excuse me if i copied myself
Who was a vice president at the first international Eugenics congress?
churchill of course. its all about mental Hygiene. long before Hitler got involved
you are most welcome. I have much more primary evidence of the close collaboration between
psychiatry and eugenics some of which includes churchill.
Cj
sounds like a population reduction agent (eugenics) again.
hi jcllaud glad to assist .
the information i have provided is not my own,its from an official source,
weather or not Churchill was accused of being bipolar (a name borrowed from electronics)
or drank too much has no relation to the pscheugenic belief system,which is under-way presently
ps who cares what churchill said for the public,and how can one have a non existent medical condition ,maybe we should ask churchills dog.
Eugenics and psychiatry.
Churchill to Asquith, written in December 1910, stating that “
“The unnatural and increasingly rapid growth of the Feeble-Minded and Insane classes, coupled as it is with a steady restriction among all the thrifty, energetic and superior stocks, constitutes a national and race danger which it is impossible to exaggerate.”
In February 1911, Churchill spoke in the House of Commons about the need to introduce compulsory labour camps for “mental defectives.” As for “tramps and wastrels,” he said, “there ought to be proper Labour Colonies where they could be sent for considerable periods and made to realize their duty to the State.”:-
And so in 1919 we had the mental deficiency bill- the 1930 mental treatment Act- the 1959 mental health Act-the 1983 mental health Act-the 2005 mental capacity Act. And now medical killings given the ok in UK courts.
GET The idea!!!
It turns out that karen carpenter was involved with psychiatry. Another tragic loss due to these murdering SOBs
cris jones May 28, 2018 at 8:37 am
Breaking News, latest treatment . No more electrocution ,chemical lobotomy etc.
Decapitation its cheep,quick, painless relieves suffering instantly .
But Seriously ,IF psychiatry ever went so far ,and one protested against this ,would one be called anti psychiatry?
Please excuse the word treatment,ooopss.
cris jones May 28, 2018 at 8:37 am
Breaking News, latest treatment . No more electrocution ,chemical lobotomy etc.
Decapitation its cheep,quick, painless relieves suffering instantly .
But Seriously ,IF psychiatry ever went so far ,and one protested against this ,would one be called anti psychiatry?
Please excuse the word treatment,ooopss.
CJ
Breaking News, latest treatment . No more electrocution ,chemical lobotomy etc.
Decapitation its cheep,quick, painless relieves suffering instantly .
But Seriously ,IF psychiatry ever went so far ,and one protested against this ,would one be called anti psychiatry?
Please excuse the word treatment,ooopss.
CJ
Yes , the principal behind not being able to interact with that which is not
materially measurable especially in medicine is well understood by most.
Psychiatry however,demands that we reject this fundamental observation ,upon which the entire industrial and scientific world is based upon.
Psychiatrists would have us believe in monsters at the bottom oft the garden, with pink ears.!!! This is not to reject the spiritual difficulties
people sometimes experience.
CJ
Yes, If we concentrate excessively upon the rights and wrongs and terrible harm caused by psychiatric interventions ,we run the risk of
providing our opponents the opportunity of presenting (to public at large) new treatment ,better care ,old drugs found to be harmful etc.
When in-fact there is no pathology involved in psychiatric oppression.
They will like-as not use the treatment debate as a advertising campaign for the latest break through,in what we know is in fact Torture.
CJ
psychiatry remains about social control nothing but.
This renders talk of treatment null and void.
CJ
Dont know, but this is a very dangerous development and must be exposed.
CJ
Yes active in Germany and much involved in exposing psychiatries roll in the euthanasia program 1939-1949.
And how they still oppress and injure to this day,and call it treatment. Well worth supporting them as they
do get results. web site is iaapa.ch.
CJ
Has anyone remarks to make about FTAC ? or is anyone even aware of it?
no one said it as good as……
“Coercion masquerading as medical treatment is the bedrock of political medicine. Long before the Nazies [sic] rose to power, physician-eugenicists advocated killing certain ill or disabled persons as a form of treatment for both patient and society. What transforms coercion into therapy? Physicians diagnosing the subject’s conditon as a ‘disease,’ declaring the intervention they impose on the victim a ‘treatment,’ and legislators and judges ratifying these categorizations as ‘diseases’ and ‘treatments.’
TS Szaz
Or Maybe…“Although we may not know it, we have, in our day, witnessed the birth of the Therapeutic State. This is perhaps the major implication of psychiatry as an institution of social control.”
yes .so now we live in the psychiatric dark ages,seems as though doctors are the new priests with power bestowed upon them by the state.
CJ
yea psychiatric ideology uses the same linguistic trap as did the medieval church /state trials, they also had
malleus maleficarum used to confirm presence of witches ,just as DSM is used by psychiatry.
cj
cris jones June 21, 2018 at 6:46 pm
interesting word psych-osis psych from the greek meaning soul or life breath. as psychiatrists dont believe in the soul anyway.
But what the hell, he who controls speech controls thought right?
interesting word psych-osis as psychiatrists dont believe in the soul anyway.
But what the hell, he who controls speech controls thought right?
CJ
A Coda on the Churchill trechery .
The Congress on Eugenics led to renewed public pressure for Britain to adopt eugenics laws. In October 1912, Churchill discussed the proposed laws with Wilfrid Scawen Blunt, who wrote in his diary: “Winston is also a strong eugenist. He told us he had himself drafted the Bill which is to give power of shutting up people of weak intellect and so prevent their breeding. He thought it might be arranged to sterilise them. It was possible by the use of Roentgen rays, both for men and women, though for women some operation might also be necessary. He thought that if shut up with no prospect of release without it many would ask to be sterilised as a condition of having their liberty restored. He went on to say that the mentally deficient were as much more prolific than those normally constituted as eight to five. Without something of the sort the race must decay. It was rapidly decaying, but could be stopped by such means.”[12] and now we have the mental capacity Act in UK,one HELL of a legacy.
If someone talks to God its called praying,If god answers its called schzophenia by psychiatric bull,
CJ
CJ
. If somone in india is walking barefoot and speaking to god and the demi-gods,they are seen as holy men,
The same person seen in western states would be taken to be Psychotic and….
Bleuler ,still seen by psychiatry as a great pioneer of diagnosis .
The eugenic sterilization of persons diagnosed with (and viewed as predisposed to) schizophrenia was advocated by Bleuler.[He argued that racial deterioration would result from the propagation of mental and physical cripples in his Textbook of Psychiatry:.
The more severely burdened should not propagate themselves… . If we do nothing but make mental and physical cripples capable of propagating themselves, and the healthy stocks have to limit the number of their children because so much has to be done for the maintenance of others, if natural selection is generally suppressed, then unless we will get new measures our race must rapidly deteriorate.
shure thang Oldhead, i can recommend a bit of history by way of this perhaps–
José Manuel Rodríguez Delgado (1969). Physical Control of the Mind: Toward a Psychocivilized Society. Harper and Row.
spiffing read!!
Who was a vice president at the first international Eugenics congress?
churchill of course. its all about mental Hygiene. long before Hitler got involved
excuse me if i copied myself
Who was a vice president at the first international Eugenics congress?
churchill of course. its all about mental Hygiene. long before Hitler got involved
you are most welcome. I have much more primary evidence of the close collaboration between
psychiatry and eugenics some of which includes churchill.
Cj
sounds like a population reduction agent (eugenics) again.
hi jcllaud glad to assist .
the information i have provided is not my own,its from an official source,
weather or not Churchill was accused of being bipolar (a name borrowed from electronics)
or drank too much has no relation to the pscheugenic belief system,which is under-way presently
ps who cares what churchill said for the public,and how can one have a non existent medical condition ,maybe we should ask churchills dog.
Eugenics and psychiatry.
Churchill to Asquith, written in December 1910, stating that “
“The unnatural and increasingly rapid growth of the Feeble-Minded and Insane classes, coupled as it is with a steady restriction among all the thrifty, energetic and superior stocks, constitutes a national and race danger which it is impossible to exaggerate.”
In February 1911, Churchill spoke in the House of Commons about the need to introduce compulsory labour camps for “mental defectives.” As for “tramps and wastrels,” he said, “there ought to be proper Labour Colonies where they could be sent for considerable periods and made to realize their duty to the State.”:-
And so in 1919 we had the mental deficiency bill- the 1930 mental treatment Act- the 1959 mental health Act-the 1983 mental health Act-the 2005 mental capacity Act. And now medical killings given the ok in UK courts.
GET The idea!!!
It turns out that karen carpenter was involved with psychiatry. Another tragic loss due to these murdering SOBs
cris jones May 28, 2018 at 8:37 am
Breaking News, latest treatment . No more electrocution ,chemical lobotomy etc.
Decapitation its cheep,quick, painless relieves suffering instantly .
But Seriously ,IF psychiatry ever went so far ,and one protested against this ,would one be called anti psychiatry?
Please excuse the word treatment,ooopss.
cris jones May 28, 2018 at 8:37 am
Breaking News, latest treatment . No more electrocution ,chemical lobotomy etc.
Decapitation its cheep,quick, painless relieves suffering instantly .
But Seriously ,IF psychiatry ever went so far ,and one protested against this ,would one be called anti psychiatry?
Please excuse the word treatment,ooopss.
CJ
Breaking News, latest treatment . No more electrocution ,chemical lobotomy etc.
Decapitation its cheep,quick, painless relieves suffering instantly .
But Seriously ,IF psychiatry ever went so far ,and one protested against this ,would one be called anti psychiatry?
Please excuse the word treatment,ooopss.
CJ
Yes , the principal behind not being able to interact with that which is not
materially measurable especially in medicine is well understood by most.
Psychiatry however,demands that we reject this fundamental observation ,upon which the entire industrial and scientific world is based upon.
Psychiatrists would have us believe in monsters at the bottom oft the garden, with pink ears.!!! This is not to reject the spiritual difficulties
people sometimes experience.
CJ
Yes, If we concentrate excessively upon the rights and wrongs and terrible harm caused by psychiatric interventions ,we run the risk of
providing our opponents the opportunity of presenting (to public at large) new treatment ,better care ,old drugs found to be harmful etc.
When in-fact there is no pathology involved in psychiatric oppression.
They will like-as not use the treatment debate as a advertising campaign for the latest break through,in what we know is in fact Torture.
CJ
psychiatry remains about social control nothing but.
This renders talk of treatment null and void.
CJ
Dont know, but this is a very dangerous development and must be exposed.
CJ
Yes active in Germany and much involved in exposing psychiatries roll in the euthanasia program 1939-1949.
And how they still oppress and injure to this day,and call it treatment. Well worth supporting them as they
do get results. web site is iaapa.ch.
CJ
Has anyone remarks to make about FTAC ? or is anyone even aware of it?
CJ