so very important…and disturbing…thanks for this blog
very important blog….
such awful stigma…
such awful ignorance about mental health..
i worry mostly about the stigma i carry inside of me…
my self-stigma..i know i am screwed up..
i don’t think i am good enough…
i like to keep it simple…
i have a mental illness…
i was helped by a very good lady psychologist…
it worked for me…i don’t care what you call it…
beatrix…..thank you…thank you…thank you…
i would love to be with you in a group of
like minded people…i am 89 yo and am alone
even tho i have family…you are right on…
yes
thanks ekaterina..i find you very interesting…
i like you…and your psyche
i am impressed with DDA and how you have helped…
what a terrible problem…many systems are involved..
even some good psychiatrists have a big problem…
they can get sued if a child dies by suicide…no matter what
and we need to keep the good guys around…i need my psychiatrist
to talk to…not for psych drugs…
rose…you are a precious soul…
your story is so moving…so helpful
thanks for your kindness
from the littleturtle
i have been helped by a psychotherapist…
i don’t care what the research says…
and i want face to face therapy ….
thanks very much
from the littleturtle
oldhead…the key issue here is nourishing your brain
with whole food plant based diet….it is part of
LIFESTYLE PSYCHIATRY…did you read that book …
this is the most important information
on mad in america that you will find…
it is up to you ….you can choose health
or sickness…
i have no idea about the causes of this suffering…
but i do not want lawful forced medication…
thanks stephen…
stephen…you don’t know what i have been thru….
i am not like you….each one of us is different…
but steve how can you say there
is no genetic basis for MY mental
illness…you and i can’t know that yet..
the neuroscientists are working on it…
that is what science is about…not just words…
steve you make good points…
but there is a problem when you
try to rule out biology causing serious mental problems….we still do not know
enough to say that genes have no
effect…..and neuroscience is working
hard on this….words do not stop
people looking…and scientists need
evidence not words…
steve i have a serious mental health problem….
and i feel most comfort in being with those
that say they have a mental illness…
i don’t think you can change reality just by changing
words….
i am depressed….i have a mental illness…
thanks steve for the above comment…
beautifully said…
but steve…how can i possibly know
whether nature or nurture is more
important for me…
steve i am having a problem here…
i think my breakdowns were caused
by three factors——bio and psy and soc…
and i certainly was looking for treatment
from somebody…what do you think…
truth to power…
don’t even think about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
thank you…what a kind person you are…
what problem do i have….
what should i call it…..
a nervous problem….a disorder…
a suffering….fear and panic is there…
what are the accepted words here
in this group…
blame this ….blame that…
how about getting at the real causes
of our suffering …..
thanks trm123…
david thank you so much for your story..
so real…so awful…so great…so sad…
but hopeful
anger is very important…..
but so is DO NO HARM….
i hope the womens revolution will not be silenced
any longer…..i hope it is non-violent….for all of us…
this blog is so important….
thanks sera….
we need to hear what is true…
thanks subvet416…
wow….what a great thing here…
thank you james and derek…
you have presented some hope here…
i am a veteran of the korean war….
thanks phoebe…we are not all the same…
each person is different…whatever twirls your turban..
yes steve…very well said…
amazing story annita…what a courageous person…
i really want to know more about you…
i couldn’t find your website…
the researchers may call for this…
but too much money$$$$$$$$$ is being made
from drugs of all kinds….i don’t see much
change happening….
all priests are not the same…
all psychiatrists are not the same…
and it is important to attack issues not people…
we need to attack the dsm and the misuse of medicines…
but james i am a littleturtle…and
your podcasts are very helpful..
thank you so much james for all the help
and truth that you have been sharing…
i look up to you…
i like the way you all are speaking out against this idea…..
thank you from the littleturtle….
good response steve…thanks
i do worry some about
how people are eating junk
and how that may effect
the brain…
thanks very much steve…
is it possible that at sometime in the
future that the neuroscientists
will discover some genetic abnormality
that explains some of the thinking/emotional
suffering that we are seeing right here…
oldhead and steve disagree about szasz….
did he throw out the BIO or not….
who is the expert here….what is it…
and WHY would you want to throw out the bio…
it doesnt make sense since we don’t know very much…
sounds like szasz throws out the bio…
are you throwing out the bio…
what did szasz say about mental health…
thanks steve….
is there anything that neuroscience has to say about
persons having different neurotransmitter systems…
steve what do you think about the model of causation——-
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol
was the mother depressed….was the daughter depressed…
does the word–depressed–have any meaning…
can the daughter be introverted and depressed…
blame and hate can eat away at your own psyche…
thanks for this joshua….
there may be another problem when obesity
is present…how about leptin resistance causing
some of the problem….with weight gain…
i support critical psychiatry….
anti-psychiatry is too extreme…
we need to know the causes of mental suffering…
i like LIFESTYLE MEDICINE….
how about bio/psy/soc/econ/pol…
or pol/econ/soc/psy/bio…
or whatever…
thanks Julie…you are
a helpful person…
steve I can’t find any notice
on the home page…
why in the world would my comment be
awaiting moderation…doesn’t make sense…
thanks Julie for your good work
and caring for others…
if you have $$$$$$$$you can get any
diagnosis you want or desire or need…
I don’t think anti-psychiatry is going to be able
to take the big$$$$$$$$$$$ boys down…
how about the model of causation——–
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol…that was proposed
many years ago…
what do you think of Irvin yalom…
is he not good…
good comment Julie…
what do you think about
critical rather than anti
psychiatry…
very interesting life story Julie…
thanks for sharing ….
steve are you saying all mental misery is
social….sounds like soc/soc/soc….
it is necessary to find CAUSES of our misery…
and we need to go everywhere to find causes..
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol….model of causation
CRITICAL PSYCHIATRY
Robert whitaker…thank you….thank you …
you are doing great with CRITICAL psychiatry…
the new Yorker article is a step in the right direction…
oldhead —can you say more about your story…
1600 mg thorazine 40 years ago…forcefed…
schizophrenia diagnosis?????
thank you also…
no…critical psychiatry…
and it is here with laura…
getting a diagnosis about mental health problems…
I don’t think it is very helpful except to get paid…
each person is very different….it will not help
until we understand what is going on…like causes…
another good story is in THE NEW YORKER
APRIL 8TH—–THE BITTER PILL…why do we know
so little about how to stop taking psychiatry drugs…
wonderful……
oldhead and rachel777———————-
I don’t think the awful things in psychiatry
will be taken down by changing names..
I think we need to be supporting what is TRUE…
I have a mental illness…I have no idea what
caused it and the treatment didn’t wash it away..
after thinking about this blog……
I think there are serious problems
telling some people that there is no such
thing as MENTAL ILLNESS…..
back to ALEX…I watched the whole
film……VOICES THAT HEAL by ALEX G..
what a wonderful work by all of the persons…
this mental illness thing is certainly messy..
ALEX– thank you so much for your
comments here…I watched 10 minutes
of YOUR FILM and just cried with sadness
and happiness…I am going back to see
the rest of it…
I have a problem with this blog…
I think fred moss is a good guy…
and there are people who take
advantage of the system…
but most people who see a doctor
or psychiatrist are suffering…
and want help now…we are all
looking for the quick fix…everywhere..
but that doesn’t work with life very
well…
what would you say about this one—
a person comes to the doctor with
extreme anxiety…it is found out that
this person has a genetic problem…
a problem with very few GABA receptors…
is this person just going thru life like
everyone else…are we all the same…
do we have differences in the brain that
make life more difficult…who should this person
go to for help…
trying to wipe away the words
[mental illness] will not make
the problem go away,,,
we think we know a lot…but
I don’t think we know very much
about causes and treatments…
no good…into the trash can with dsm-5
thanks…good information…
important research…
CRITICAL PSYCHIATRY…
I really like critical psychiatry…
thanks for this information…
and how can anyone say they
were never helped with these
medicines…and I have a mental illness..
I was helped…I shouldn’t have taken
them for so long a time…
excellent information….
CRITICAL PSYCHIATRY—yes…
I have been unable to withdraw
from anti-depressants after
45 years of using many different
ones including Elavil and Prozac…
I don’t think we know very much
about mental suffering….and how
to help people…we talk a lot…
is there a better way of describing this problem….
what are the causes of this problem….
I really like getting down to the CAUSE…
I like the bio/psy/soc/econ/pol model…
usually it involves more than one cause…
I like this research news….published in the nemj…
it is a part of CRITICAL psychiatry….this is the type
of news that will take down the BAD STUFF from within…
the problem with anti-psychiatry —-it is not going
anywhere….a lot of heat and not enough light…
i like critical psychiatry for now…
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol model of causation…
thanks very much…
teens and young adults…..
brains not totally formed…
how many prescription medicines being used…
how much alcohol/nicotine/caffeine being used…
how many street drugs being used….
how much sugar is being used…
all of the above are effecting a young brain…
I have a serious problem with anxiety and depression….
I take medication for this problem…
I see a psychiatrist every 3 months….
I have no problem if someone says I have a mental illness..
and I seriously hope that they never stop looking for
any genetic problem that might impact on this suffering…
I believe in the bio/psy/soc model of causation….
I don’t want anything left out that might help…
should we stop genetic research trying to
understand the cause of panic attacks….
abandon genetic research looking for cause of depression…
no no no….not a good idea….
but the DSM diagnosis [major depression disorder] needs to
be dropped out into the trash can along with the DSM..
good discussion here….the big problem imo
is mental health treatment….we are not
treating the cause.. only symptoms and signs…
we need treatment of the cause of mental suffering…
whatever the cause may be…for that person….
and we need to think of true prevention…
…we do not know causes…
we cannot rule out biology…bio/psy/soc…
in the usa…if you have $$$cash
you can get what you want from
your psychiatrist…also you need to speak up
to see if you can WORK WITH a doctor..
young persons today are at risk
for pre-diabetes….if you have pre-diabetes
you are at risk for depression…we are not
eating healthy….we need to think about
prevention without using any prescribed
medications or any street drugs…PREVENTION….
also think about nutritional psychiatry…not pills..
i think i love this lady psychiatrist…
so very important…and disturbing…thanks for this blog
very important blog….
such awful stigma…
such awful ignorance about mental health..
i worry mostly about the stigma i carry inside of me…
my self-stigma..i know i am screwed up..
i don’t think i am good enough…
i like to keep it simple…
i have a mental illness…
i was helped by a very good lady psychologist…
it worked for me…i don’t care what you call it…
beatrix…..thank you…thank you…thank you…
i would love to be with you in a group of
like minded people…i am 89 yo and am alone
even tho i have family…you are right on…
yes
thanks ekaterina..i find you very interesting…
i like you…and your psyche
i am impressed with DDA and how you have helped…
what a terrible problem…many systems are involved..
even some good psychiatrists have a big problem…
they can get sued if a child dies by suicide…no matter what
and we need to keep the good guys around…i need my psychiatrist
to talk to…not for psych drugs…
rose…you are a precious soul…
your story is so moving…so helpful
thanks for your kindness
from the littleturtle
i have been helped by a psychotherapist…
i don’t care what the research says…
and i want face to face therapy ….
thanks very much
from the littleturtle
oldhead…the key issue here is nourishing your brain
with whole food plant based diet….it is part of
LIFESTYLE PSYCHIATRY…did you read that book …
this is the most important information
on mad in america that you will find…
it is up to you ….you can choose health
or sickness…
i have no idea about the causes of this suffering…
but i do not want lawful forced medication…
thanks stephen…
stephen…you don’t know what i have been thru….
i am not like you….each one of us is different…
but steve how can you say there
is no genetic basis for MY mental
illness…you and i can’t know that yet..
the neuroscientists are working on it…
that is what science is about…not just words…
steve you make good points…
but there is a problem when you
try to rule out biology causing serious mental problems….we still do not know
enough to say that genes have no
effect…..and neuroscience is working
hard on this….words do not stop
people looking…and scientists need
evidence not words…
steve i have a serious mental health problem….
and i feel most comfort in being with those
that say they have a mental illness…
i don’t think you can change reality just by changing
words….
i am depressed….i have a mental illness…
thanks steve for the above comment…
beautifully said…
but steve…how can i possibly know
whether nature or nurture is more
important for me…
steve i am having a problem here…
i think my breakdowns were caused
by three factors——bio and psy and soc…
and i certainly was looking for treatment
from somebody…what do you think…
truth to power…
don’t even think about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
thank you…what a kind person you are…
what problem do i have….
what should i call it…..
a nervous problem….a disorder…
a suffering….fear and panic is there…
what are the accepted words here
in this group…
blame this ….blame that…
how about getting at the real causes
of our suffering …..
thanks trm123…
david thank you so much for your story..
so real…so awful…so great…so sad…
but hopeful
anger is very important…..
but so is DO NO HARM….
i hope the womens revolution will not be silenced
any longer…..i hope it is non-violent….for all of us…
this blog is so important….
thanks sera….
we need to hear what is true…
thanks subvet416…
wow….what a great thing here…
thank you james and derek…
you have presented some hope here…
i am a veteran of the korean war….
thanks phoebe…we are not all the same…
each person is different…whatever twirls your turban..
yes steve…very well said…
amazing story annita…what a courageous person…
i really want to know more about you…
i couldn’t find your website…
the researchers may call for this…
but too much money$$$$$$$$$ is being made
from drugs of all kinds….i don’t see much
change happening….
all priests are not the same…
all psychiatrists are not the same…
and it is important to attack issues not people…
we need to attack the dsm and the misuse of medicines…
but james i am a littleturtle…and
your podcasts are very helpful..
thank you so much james for all the help
and truth that you have been sharing…
i look up to you…
i like the way you all are speaking out against this idea…..
thank you from the littleturtle….
good response steve…thanks
i do worry some about
how people are eating junk
and how that may effect
the brain…
thanks very much steve…
is it possible that at sometime in the
future that the neuroscientists
will discover some genetic abnormality
that explains some of the thinking/emotional
suffering that we are seeing right here…
oldhead and steve disagree about szasz….
did he throw out the BIO or not….
who is the expert here….what is it…
and WHY would you want to throw out the bio…
it doesnt make sense since we don’t know very much…
sounds like szasz throws out the bio…
are you throwing out the bio…
what did szasz say about mental health…
thanks steve….
is there anything that neuroscience has to say about
persons having different neurotransmitter systems…
steve what do you think about the model of causation——-
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol
was the mother depressed….was the daughter depressed…
does the word–depressed–have any meaning…
can the daughter be introverted and depressed…
blame and hate can eat away at your own psyche…
thanks for this joshua….
there may be another problem when obesity
is present…how about leptin resistance causing
some of the problem….with weight gain…
i support critical psychiatry….
anti-psychiatry is too extreme…
we need to know the causes of mental suffering…
i like LIFESTYLE MEDICINE….
psychologist says psy/psy/psy….
sociologist says soc/soc/soc….
psychiatrist says bio/bio/bio….
how about bio/psy/soc/econ/pol…
or pol/econ/soc/psy/bio…
or whatever…
thanks Julie…you are
a helpful person…
steve I can’t find any notice
on the home page…
why in the world would my comment be
awaiting moderation…doesn’t make sense…
thanks Julie for your good work
and caring for others…
if you have $$$$$$$$you can get any
diagnosis you want or desire or need…
I don’t think anti-psychiatry is going to be able
to take the big$$$$$$$$$$$ boys down…
how about the model of causation——–
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol…that was proposed
many years ago…
what do you think of Irvin yalom…
is he not good…
good comment Julie…
what do you think about
critical rather than anti
psychiatry…
very interesting life story Julie…
thanks for sharing ….
steve are you saying all mental misery is
social….sounds like soc/soc/soc….
it is necessary to find CAUSES of our misery…
and we need to go everywhere to find causes..
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol….model of causation
CRITICAL PSYCHIATRY
Robert whitaker…thank you….thank you …
you are doing great with CRITICAL psychiatry…
the new Yorker article is a step in the right direction…
oldhead —can you say more about your story…
1600 mg thorazine 40 years ago…forcefed…
schizophrenia diagnosis?????
thank you also…
no…critical psychiatry…
and it is here with laura…
getting a diagnosis about mental health problems…
I don’t think it is very helpful except to get paid…
each person is very different….it will not help
until we understand what is going on…like causes…
another good story is in THE NEW YORKER
APRIL 8TH—–THE BITTER PILL…why do we know
so little about how to stop taking psychiatry drugs…
wonderful……
oldhead and rachel777———————-
I don’t think the awful things in psychiatry
will be taken down by changing names..
I think we need to be supporting what is TRUE…
I have a mental illness…I have no idea what
caused it and the treatment didn’t wash it away..
after thinking about this blog……
I think there are serious problems
telling some people that there is no such
thing as MENTAL ILLNESS…..
back to ALEX…I watched the whole
film……VOICES THAT HEAL by ALEX G..
what a wonderful work by all of the persons…
this mental illness thing is certainly messy..
ALEX– thank you so much for your
comments here…I watched 10 minutes
of YOUR FILM and just cried with sadness
and happiness…I am going back to see
the rest of it…
I have a problem with this blog…
I think fred moss is a good guy…
and there are people who take
advantage of the system…
but most people who see a doctor
or psychiatrist are suffering…
and want help now…we are all
looking for the quick fix…everywhere..
but that doesn’t work with life very
well…
what would you say about this one—
a person comes to the doctor with
extreme anxiety…it is found out that
this person has a genetic problem…
a problem with very few GABA receptors…
is this person just going thru life like
everyone else…are we all the same…
do we have differences in the brain that
make life more difficult…who should this person
go to for help…
trying to wipe away the words
[mental illness] will not make
the problem go away,,,
we think we know a lot…but
I don’t think we know very much
about causes and treatments…
no good…into the trash can with dsm-5
thanks…good information…
important research…
CRITICAL PSYCHIATRY…
I really like critical psychiatry…
thanks for this information…
and how can anyone say they
were never helped with these
medicines…and I have a mental illness..
I was helped…I shouldn’t have taken
them for so long a time…
excellent information….
CRITICAL PSYCHIATRY—yes…
I have been unable to withdraw
from anti-depressants after
45 years of using many different
ones including Elavil and Prozac…
I don’t think we know very much
about mental suffering….and how
to help people…we talk a lot…
is there a better way of describing this problem….
what are the causes of this problem….
I really like getting down to the CAUSE…
I like the bio/psy/soc/econ/pol model…
usually it involves more than one cause…
I like this research news….published in the nemj…
it is a part of CRITICAL psychiatry….this is the type
of news that will take down the BAD STUFF from within…
the problem with anti-psychiatry —-it is not going
anywhere….a lot of heat and not enough light…
i like critical psychiatry for now…
bio/psy/soc/econ/pol model of causation…
thanks very much…
teens and young adults…..
brains not totally formed…
how many prescription medicines being used…
how much alcohol/nicotine/caffeine being used…
how many street drugs being used….
how much sugar is being used…
all of the above are effecting a young brain…
I have a serious problem with anxiety and depression….
I take medication for this problem…
I see a psychiatrist every 3 months….
I have no problem if someone says I have a mental illness..
and I seriously hope that they never stop looking for
any genetic problem that might impact on this suffering…
I believe in the bio/psy/soc model of causation….
I don’t want anything left out that might help…
should we stop genetic research trying to
understand the cause of panic attacks….
abandon genetic research looking for cause of depression…
no no no….not a good idea….
but the DSM diagnosis [major depression disorder] needs to
be dropped out into the trash can along with the DSM..
good discussion here….the big problem imo
is mental health treatment….we are not
treating the cause.. only symptoms and signs…
we need treatment of the cause of mental suffering…
whatever the cause may be…for that person….
and we need to think of true prevention…
…we do not know causes…
we cannot rule out biology…bio/psy/soc…
in the usa…if you have $$$cash
you can get what you want from
your psychiatrist…also you need to speak up
to see if you can WORK WITH a doctor..
young persons today are at risk
for pre-diabetes….if you have pre-diabetes
you are at risk for depression…we are not
eating healthy….we need to think about
prevention without using any prescribed
medications or any street drugs…PREVENTION….
also think about nutritional psychiatry…not pills..