Thursday, November 15, 2018

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  • Dear Sera,

    As always I appreciate your insight and ability to unpack many of the nuances in this multidimensional problem, from which I learned a lot. Please consider and most specifically, please do not take my comment personally as it is in no way directed at you. It is intended to speak to a missing piece of the wider problem that some ideas in your article presents the opportunity to speak to.
    Best

    ‘Recovery Trap’… “in order to ‘recover’ one must first accept that they were ‘sick’…
    Perhaps that works for some folks, but if you feel like the existing binary of ‘sick’ and ‘well’ aren’t a fit for you, then you may want to reconsider.

    With all due respect to your important critique, it is critical to include the fact that far beyond what works or doesn’t work for lay people and “professionals” buying into and selling “recovery propaganda”, the fact remains that the concept of “MI” and invented disease labels in the DSM are known to be unscientific and as such are in fact, mass medical malpractice (misdiagnosis) mass medical insurance fraud, resulting in numerous counts criminal activity under the Rico Act, crimes against humanity and other crime.

    From a legal, moral and ethical stance, it is absolutely NOT acceptable for the naive public to be sold any form of fraud. Nor is it ethical or legal for any group to choose to indoctrinate ill-informed, often desperate, hence gullible, uneducated victims of fraud into the “recovery trap” or any other fraud based on quasi medical/pseudo-science, marketing schemes.

    Choice is NOT be a factor in crime and by law, no party can legally ‘CONSENT” to participating in a crime. For example when rapists claims that a minor choose to participate in “consensual sex” that defense does NOT stand in court, because “sex” with minors is a crime, that the minor cannot waive- period. In the same respect, unknowing victims of fraud, can NOT consent to participating in fraud. Worse those to buy into and regurgitate misinformation designed to “con”vince and indoctrinate ever more victims into believing the same myths and misinformation, they are being used as pons to perpetuate fraud by the “professionals” selling the recovery fraud. As such, it is anything but a “choice”. Rational, law biding citizens do not support the lie that sexual predictors should be able to justify raping children under the guise and claim that rape can be ever be considered consensual sex.

    In the same respect, victims peddling the “recovery fraud” that people miraculously heal from diseases that do NOT exist and as such, that they never had to begin with, is in no way -ever – a choice. Nor are practitioners who choose to peddle the recover fraud, any less guilty of peddling medical fraud than sexual predictors are guilt of rape. One can tell any false narrative that benefits, until the gig is up and they find themselves in prison.

    At some point in time the truth based on the facts absolutely MUST supersede the practice of disseminating illegal, misinformation and fraud and those disseminating medical misinformation be held legally accountable and criminally liable for perpetuating medically fraudulent information. That time has long since past and the creation of ever more new victims of a mass medical scam, is morally, ethically and criminally irresponsible.

    My point is that almost everyone addressing this fraud, has consistently edited out the legal aspects of this medical fraud, failed to demand that the DSM be litigated in a court of law under a Junk Science litigation test.

    As a direct result, part of the reason these crimes continue to flourish, is that the silence around these facts perpetuates the problem.

    Acting as if and (for lack of better words) capitulating to the notion that the public somehow has the right to choose to support and participate in a mass medical scam, must be unraveled as non-nonsensical and deeply problematic. The recovery myth is but one of many ways in which the public continues to be co-opted into doing practitioners who financially benefit and earn a living off of public ignorance and buy in, into “Mental Health” (anti-sigma etc) porn and propaganda that exponentially adds to the mass misinformation the entire “MH” fiasco relies on to continue defrauding the public against our basic right to truth in “medicine”.

    Skirting around the fraud is an act of complicity.

    Paula Caplan on Psychiatric Survivors Speak Up
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UM9kwoCHdU&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3diPDou6Najm8E6isawdIArzKZVrxfWJdU1WRCJK0P5TD4fcpmPFH0l2E

  • Good article with solid informational comments.

    It remains an afford to humanity that the lawyers and legal system en mass has thoroughly bought into and been co-opted by the “MI” myth. Most websites dedicated to Dr and Lawyers are typically accompanied with standard “MH” propaganda about the rates of MI in their own profession and how to get “help.” This is a large part of the reason we can’t get out from underneath the lies and a prime target of where efforts to educate must be focused.

    Despite the few lines the UN SR on MH, Dr. Purus positioned (with no meaningful follow through to date) it remains troubling that states signatories that have ratified the CRPD. Along with groups fighting to imbue Human Rights into this illegal, immoral, fraudulently barbaric “medical hoax”; actually getting individual countries to uphold the rule of law, is difficult owing to the willful blindness and ignorance of the legal community at large.

    Not only does the judiciary, financially benefit from being able to control society under the guise of MI ideology, it is the very institution that should be most concerned about the facts and the truth. Contrary to its reason for existing, the law by and large, in essence and in practice, evokes a “notwithstanding clause” in order to circumvent the fact about the premise under which the masses are “judged” in court proceedings.

    Some of the benefits to the institution include: growing dr’s practices (goods and service providers, expert witness’s, MH assessments ), the prison system (Not Criminally Responsible verdicts, child services, AKA legal kidnapping) the entire court system including lawyers whose role it is to protect the public from harm perpetrated against us by others, play the same game as the majority of the dr’s getting rich off the scam. The rule of law is being circumvented and ignored in favor of local judges, manipulating the outcome of local case law by crafting decisions that assume MI myths to be a fact, without having ever legally addressed weather any of the information (evidence) they are adjudicating, is based on the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. When you start with a lie, its not possible for the conclusions one ultimately draws to reflect the truth.

    Despite all the good work being done, substantial meaningful change will not happen, unless and until the the DSM is litigated as Junk Science in a court of law. This is a bona fide legal undertaking.

    Dr. Paula Caplan has done significant work to move toward action based solutions that address the crux of and underpinnings supporting the problems. Please read, share, writing about and supporting her efforts, without which we will continue to have these conversations for the next 20, 30 or 50 years.

    As important as they are, with all due respect, the facts presented at MIA and elsewhere, are evidence of crimes against humanity, mass medical malpractice and mass insurance fraud. Win, lose or draw, it is imperative that we collectively start filing the law suits.
    In Solidarity towards the truth and preservation of life.
    Paula Caplan on Psychiatric Survivors Speak Up
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UM9kwoCHdU&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3diPDou6Najm8E6isawdIArzKZVrxfWJdU1WRCJK0P5TD4fcpmPFH0l2E

  • Continuing to support the “Mental Illness’ fraud is renders the rest… Stopped listening.
    CURTAILING THE COMMUNICABILITY OF PSYCHIATRIC DISORDERS
    Lancet’s unrolls eugenics based plan stating, “Mental Illness” which r unsupported by science r contagious through three pathways:
    infectious and ecological
    familial
    sociocultural communicability
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(18)30342-0/fulltext#.W75_3tkicls.twitter

  • Its Eugenics
    CURTAILING THE COMMUNICABILITY OF PSYCHIATRIC DISORDERS
    Although psychiatric disorders are classified as non-communicable diseases, we believe this classification is too rigid and limiting. We present evidence of the communicability of psychiatric disorders through three major pathways:
    infectious and ecological
    familial
    sociocultural communicability
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(18)30342-0/fulltext#.W75_3tkicls.twitter

  • As I read this Micheal, for the first time, the connection between sexual predators and the “mental health” cartels uses of GROOMING tactics to indoctrinate their victims, became clear.
    It is frighteningly evident that manipulators utilize techniques to indoctrinate followers/believers of cults must buy-into their view of the “facts” as true. Invented notions that human feelings and everyday life experiences are in fact, symptoms (pseudo-evidence) that they are “brain diseases with mental illness’s” requiring “treatment”.
    An entire industry cannot carry out mass social fraud under the guise of “medical legitimacy” without controlling, not just the language, but the entire cultural belief system and most specifically, the individuals who come within their grasp. They do so by hook or by crook, via coercion or force.
    Increasingly more people (including those with bona fide medical conditions whose normal sequale and symptoms are being labeled with a psych dx) are becoming aware of the disservice/harm this caused them. Thyroid, Lyme, Mesh victims… the list goes is long. If and when the millions of people this is happening to –become aware- this movement will grow exponentially. It is happening across the board.
    The phenomenon of “psychiatric grooming” needs to be explored and exposed in order to educate the public about how to recognize and protect themselves from the “mind-rapists” that permeate the sick care industry.
    I’m telling:))

  • Others reasons why the talk on psychosis is superficial and disingenuous, beyond completely omitting to educate the public about the everyday reasons a person could experience psychosis above, that you are intentionally choosing to ignore are :

    500+ Drugs that Cause Depression and Suicide – AKA Akathisia
    https://rxisk.org/500-drugs-that-cause-depression-and-suicide-aka-akathisia/
    There are likely upwards of 500 drugs that cause depression, agitation and suicide and your risk of these problems escalates in proportion to the number of drugs you take.

    Nearly 7 in 10 Americans Take Prescription Drugs, Mayo Clinic, Olmsted Medical Center Find
    https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/nearly-7-in-10-americans-take-prescription-drugs-mayo-clinic-olmsted-medical-center-find/
    …second most common prescription was for antidepressants — that suggests mental health is a huge issue and is something we should focus on.
    And the third most common drugs were opioids, which is a bit concerning considering their addicting nature.
    Overall, women and older adults receive more prescriptions.
    Vaccines, antibiotics and anti-asthma drugs are most commonly prescribed in people younger than 19.
    Antidepressants and opioids are most common among young and middle-aged adults. (who by the law health Canada warned in 2004 cause suicidal ideation in adults)
    Women receive more prescriptions than men across several drug groups, especially antidepressants: Nearly 1 in 4 women ages 50-64 are on an antidepressant.

    Continuing to attribute the experience of psychosis to trauma and spiritual crisis theories, while omitted to inform people that it is also caused by:
    1. common problems such as dehydration,
    2. 100+ un-diagnosed and mis-diagnosed bona fide medical conditions IE: brain injury, thyroid, Lyme disease,
    3. and 100’s of prescription drugs
    allows psychosis and other so called symptoms of “MH” problems to be mislabeled as such.

    Dr’s failing to state the whole truth continues to be a serious part of the problem.

  • Again, I presented a “better understanding” that you seem to have conveniently skipped over. Here is is again for your continued education. Best.

    judi September 9, 2018 at 6:37 pm
    Stigma and psychosis: when medical labels injure
    https://www.madinamerica.com/brainsplain/
    In reference to the above video:
    Unfortunately, as usual, this limited perspective fails to acknowledge the fact that the experience called psychosis, are documented to be caused by:
    dehydration,
    lack of sleep,
    chronic stress,
    being on a ventilator or being in hospital,
    exposure to toxins,
    vitamin deficiencies,
    adverse reactions to street and prescription drugs
    and can be a result of the normal sequalea of a bona fide medical illness such as thyroid storm or Myxedema psychosis as one of countless examples.

    The favoring of trauma and spiritual theories and those who willfully and in far too many cases, callously exclude proven medical conditions as causal agents, is not only unethical, discriminatory and exclusionary; it blocks MILLIONS of would be allies who have been medically psychiatrized and harmed.

    The symptoms of real medical diseases being misdiagnoses, labeled and mistreated as “mental illness” it is the unspoken – unspeakable truth being banned from the discourse and it is harmful to us all.

    There is no “psych” brain disease, everything that happens in the “mind and psyche” takes place in the human body and as such, all “psych dx” are medical and all psych abuse is medical abuse. It takes on average 7 years to get an accurate diagnosis.

    I understand this exclusion as a misunderstanding and knee-jerk reaction to the misguided use of the biological medical model that abuses millions of people. But real medical diseases do not belong in the same category as fake “MI”’s. They are completely separate in that they are testable and provable.
    The movement itself and the group think leaders refusing to hear, consider and ostracizing people with real medical conditions being misdiagnosed, psychiatrized and abused by psychiatry need to stop this. The political and social justice you claim to seek can only exist in a climate commitment to equity, diversity, and inclusion, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    Stop cherry-picking the facts to support the limited, lack of understanding and lack of inclusion this movement currently revolves around. An honest, fulsome holistic body, mind, soul approach that encompasses the entire person is far more accurate, honest and will garner better solutions to the crisis at hand.

  • Thanks for pointing that out. I should have clarified that statement of fact, refers to a diagnosis of a bona fide, provable medical disease, vrs an imaginary “mental illness” that I am fully aware, does not exist. It should be shocking to learn that the average lag time on getting an accurate dx is 7 years and in many case, longer- especailly for women who are over-represented as “mental patients” because Gp’s fail to address mandatory testing and typically dx most people with any symptom categorized as “mental/emotional” as a “MI”.
    I make the point to (likely prematurely) draw a distinction between the incompetent, substandard medical services, and fraudulent, incompetent “mental health” services, BOTH of which cause disability, addiction and early death.
    I use the term “experience” of psychosis, precisely because it is simply a cluster of symptoms and not a disease.
    Unfortunately, as always, the legitimacy of my point, that the “experience” of psychosis is actually known to be caused by countless everyday occurrences is a fact that Dr. Campbell failed to note to the collective detriment. My point remains, important.

  • Stigma and psychosis: when medical labels injure
    https://www.madinamerica.com/brainsplain/
    In reference to the above video:
    Unfortunately, as usual, this limited perspective fails to acknowledge the fact that the experience called psychosis, are documented to be caused by:
    dehydration,
    lack of sleep,
    chronic stress,
    being on a ventilator or being in hospital,
    exposure to toxins,
    vitamin deficiencies,
    adverse reactions to street and prescription drugs
    and can be a result of the normal sequalea of a bona fide medical illness such as thyroid storm or Myxedema psychosis as one of countless examples.

    The favoring of trauma and spiritual theories and those who willfully and in far too many cases, callously exclude proven medical conditions as causal agents, is not only unethical, discriminatory and exclusionary; it blocks MILLIONS of would be allies who have been medically psychiatrized and harmed.

    The symptoms of real medical diseases being misdiagnoses, labeled and mistreated as “mental illness” it is the unspoken – unspeakable truth being banned from the discourse and it is harmful to us all.

    There is no “psych” brain disease, everything that happens in the “mind and psyche” takes place in the human body and as such, all “psych dx” are medical and all psych abuse is medical abuse. It takes on average 7 years to get an accurate diagnosis.

    I understand this exclusion as a misunderstanding and knee-jerk reaction to the misguided use of the biological medical model that abuses millions of people. But real medical diseases do not belong in the same category as fake “MI”’s. They are completely separate in that they are testable and provable.
    The movement itself and the group think leaders refusing to hear, consider and ostracizing people with real medical conditions being misdiagnosed, psychiatrized and abused by psychiatry need to stop this. The political and social justice you claim to seek can only exist in a climate commitment to equity, diversity, and inclusion, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    Stop cherry-picking the facts to support the limited, lack of understanding and lack of inclusion this movement currently revolves around. An honest, fulsome holistic body, mind, soul approach that encompasses the entire person is far more accurate, honest and will garner better solutions to the crisis at hand.

  • Excellence article explaining the failure to address the fraudulent epidemic of “mental illness”. Hopefully this finds it’s way to Dr. Darius (UN- SR) who might consider elaborating on the facts, rather than simply making a comment on the need to consider power-imbalances over chemical imbalances and leaving it at that. 

    Its long past time to address the affects of the Social Determinate of Health (SDOH) being mislabeled as “mental diseases’ and the well documented science proving that real diseases caused by poverty, lack of access to decent food, housing, jobs and education are the root cause of the SYMPTOMS being misdiagnosed as if they brain diseases in order to profit from mistreating them and maintaining “medical control” over the lives of millions of people who are psychiatrized because they are suffering from bona fide diseases … the rates of which are increasing across the globe as more and more people are unable to afford to properly care for their most basic human needs (which are also human rights.)

  • This not so clever fraud is being pushed heavily under the newly minted guise called ‘Nutritional Psychiatry”. Orthomolecular medicine, aside, its a nifty little con that the industry cooked up to ensure it’s cut of the billion dollar supplement industry and anything else they can appropriate from alternative medicine and call “integrative medicine.”
    The lie is simply that vitamin deficiencies are or cause “mental illness’. The truth that EVERYONE is reluctant to state is that the SYMPTOMS caused by lack of proper nutrition causes symptoms that are labeled (misdiagnosed) as if they were “mental illness’s”.
    The con not only allows quacks to continuing “treating” imaginary brain diseases, it keeps them in control of the discourse (propaganda) thus allowing them to maintain control over the brain diseased MI gullible enough to buy the notion that a vitamin deficiencies are anything more than – vitamin deficiencies. It is beyond underhanded and deceitful and so blatantly ridiculously transparent, that one would think people would be pissing themselves laughing. Sadly, the number of otherwise intelligent people supporting this bullshit- including people who understand that psychiatry is a pseudo-science even in anti and critical psych groups, is beyond disturbing.
    Make no mistake about it, this is the new and much easier to swallow “chemical imbalance myth” that I have coined the “nutrient imbalance myth” in the hopes of triggering people to start using their own ability to discern simple fact from obvious fiction. A lie is a lie is a lie, no matter whose spinning it and a whole lot of spin dr’s are banking on this slight of hand to help them retire early. JMG

  • Shrink Resistant, was the second book I found after Paula Caplan’s They Say You’re Crazy. It set the tone for my own activism and determination to speak truth to lies, despite the oppressive silencing of ideas that do not fit neatly into the permissible discourse and the retribution that inevitably follows when power mongers beliefs are exposed and challenged.

    Don is an icon of the movement. Best wishes for the new book.

  • The industry trashing exercise and other things that improve human health is disingenuous and self-serving. Considering that what they are doing to people is inhumane to begin with, its not surprising that they dismiss anything that doesn’t lead to their victims early demise; after all there’s an endless supply of disposable people to experiment on.
    It’s isn’t clear if the writer supporting not exercising for “SMI” because what’s the point anyway? I find it deeply disturbing.

    Treating Depression with Exercise and an Internet-Based Intervention
    https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/11/treating-depression-exercise-internet-based-intervention/

    Combating depression – Drugs vs Exercise
    https://www.wddty.com/magazine/2016/april/combating-depression-drugs-vs-exercise.html

    Exercise: More Effective Than Antidepressants?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/estelle-underwood/suffering-from-depression_b_1077889.html

    Is Exercise Anti-inflammatory? What the Science Shows – Kelly Brogan
    https://kellybroganmd.com/exercise-anti-inflammatory/

    Exercise … It does a body good: 20 minutes can act as anti-inflammatory
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170112115722.htm

    Effects of Exercise on Depression Underestimated, Review Finds
    https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/06/effects-of-exercise-on-depression-underestimated-review-finds/

    For Depression, Prescribing Exercise Before Medication
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/for-depression-prescribing-exercise-before-medication/284587/

    Is Exercise a Viable Treatment for Depression?
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3674785/

    Skeletal Muscle PGC-1α1 Modulates Kynurenine Metabolism and Mediates Resilience to Stress-Induced Depression.
    http://kellybroganmd.com/exercise-anti-inflammatory/

    For Depression, Prescribing Exercise Before Medication
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/for-depression-prescribing-exercise-before-medication/284587/

    The Benefits of Exercise for the Clinically Depressed – NCBI – NIH
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC474733/

    The exercise effect – American Psychological Association
    http://www.apa.org › Monitor on Psychology › December 2011 Monitor on Psychology

    Multi-modality: a new approach for the treatment of major depressive …
    https://academic.oup.com/ijnp/article/16/6/1433/754453

  • The excuse that there “isn’t enough time” to tell the truth is an insult to the intelligence and integrity of humanity.

    The simple solution to the problem is to simply state:
    “ the symptoms currently being misdiagnosed and labeled as if they are “brain diseases called mental illness’s” are simply part and parcel of the normal sequalea of countless bona fide medical diseases that come part and parcel with what are described as “mental and emotional” symptoms. Calling and treating those symptoms “as if” they are MI is misguided, is medical malpractice, is insurance fraud and is an unethical lie.”

    Unless and until the whole truth is told, the current lies will continue to fuel death, disability, addiction and mass systemic corruption.

  • When will the lies about ‘mental health” stop?
    Clearly food creates mood.

    The deeply unfortunate and enduring problem is that the facts continue to be attached to the lies and myths that “low mood” and other symptoms caused by poor diet and lifestyle result in poor health, which continues to be falsely positioned as if they are “mental health” issues.

    The single most damaging thing that happened as a result of the false dichotomy of the medical model, is this misguided idea that there are 2 types of health; one for the mind and a separate health for the body. 

    I have no respect for people who should and do know this, but insist on keeping the lie alive so they can profit off the billions earned by perpetuating lies and myths about “mental illness’.

    A lie is a lie is a lie and anyone supporting the lie is a liar. 

  • What is so troubling about this, is that symptoms caused by vitamin deficiencies are being fraudulently positioned as if they CAUSE, and/or ARE ‘mental illness/mental health” problems.
    The lies never end, they simply shape-shift to avoid losing money, power and control of how people -misunderstand- what is ailing them and agree to hand the power of their lives over to people in white coats to run.
    Anyone with a lick of logic should be able to discern that a vitamin deficiency, is simply a vitamin deficiency and the normal, expected, well documented symptoms of which, are eliminated by replacing missing vital nutrients.

    THE NEW & IMPROVED ‘CHEMICAL IMBALANCE MYTH’ – VITAMIN DEFICIENCIES CAUSE & ARE ‘MENTAL ILLNESS’S
    As more people become aware that the ‘CI’ myth is a scam, stop using drugs and start to self care with nutrition the “mental health” whores jumped on board the nutritional bandwagon and are controlling the changing discourse with the re-emergence/development of Nutritional Psychiatry. 
    The new fraud is that vitamin deficiencies not only cause, but in fact ARE “mental illness’s.”
    Part of the fall out of the misuse of the biological medical model, is the false severing of symptoms that are erroneously categorized as being “mental/emotional” vrs physical. Yet the normal, predicable, well documented sequalea of countless diseases includes symptoms of depression, anxiety, sleeplessness etc. Symptoms are not diseases in and of themselves, but part and parcel of how a disease, such as thyroid for example, is expressed in the human organism.

    ‘Mental illness” and its evil twin, “mental health” are merely social constructs. There are not 2 kinds of health’s functioning independently in the same body. There is only one health, human health.
    Vitamin deficiencies are not now and never were and never will be, brain diseases called “mental illness.” As such, if the speaker was telling the truth, she would state that the symptoms currently labeled and misdiagnosed as “MI” are vitamin deficiencies, eliminated by replacing critical missing nutrients.
    “Nutritional Psychiatry”
    1) is replacing the tarnished “chemical imbalance myth” with the new and improved “micro-nutrient deficiency” myth
    2) is fighting to remain in control of the public attempts to protect their health using diet and lifestyle changes
    The fraud is con-vincing the public, that lack of nutrients, are in fact “mental illness’s” and they need to pay a shrink to manage their nutritional intake, so they don’t relapse.
    Over the 2 years I have been following this tragedy, almost every single person unwittingly agreed to have their vitamin deficiency be misdiagnosed as a “mental illness” curable with vitamins.
    3) How are people so gullible that they are willing to believe anything- even something this ridiculous- just because someone wearing a white coat said it? ARGUMENTUM AD VERECUNDIAM: Argument from authority (or appeal to authority) – where something is purported to be true, simply because a knowledgeable and well-reputed person has said it.
    4) By simply twisting the symptoms of malnutrition into “mental illness” the industry continues laughing all the way to the bank having gained new customers for life, using vitamins to address their imaginary brain diseases instead of neurotoxic drugs.
    Evil- yes, but enormously rich and still in total control of the masses.
    ©JMGayton 6/10/2018 MH, AB, CA.

  • 1. The normal sign, symptoms and sequalea of dis/stress are being mis-positioned and mis-labled as if they are separate “MENTAL” problems, which is medical fraud.
    2. The reason therapy is largely useless in helping poor people feel better, is because it does not and cannot address the root cause of the problem which can only be solved with access to decent food, safe social environments, affordable housing, education and jobs and healthy lifestyles that promote human health.
    3. It is ludicrous to suggest that counseling of any kind can improve people’s financial position. Poverty is political violence, and not remotely a “mental health” problem cured by talking about ones struggles to someone who is getting paid by the state to listen to them.
    4. Further the money the state pays for therapy, should by put directly into the pockets of the impoverished and used to develop affordable housing and other Social Determinants of Health (that have nothing to do with access to “health care AKA sick care and therapy.)
    5. I can’t imagine a greater waste of time, money or effort than attending on a therapist so they can write a prescription to the food bank or an exercise class.
    6. Why continue to enrich the wealthy to pointlessly minister to the poor and disenfranchised, rendering them wealthier and us more impoverished.
    7. It is a clear and obvious waste of resources to throw more money at the toxic “mental health” system, no matter what guise the “help” comes as.
    8. Psychiatry and Psychology are the WRONG organizations to address social problems. All they did so far, was twist real-world problems into pseudo-diseases and problems of the “mind”.
    9. Billions have been wasted allowing P & P to act as middle-men pocketing the money desperately needed to go directly into food security and housing and education.
    10. Stop feeding the middlemen (the problem) and start feeding the public!
    11. The abuse at its core, is primary about FOOD, (the building blocks of real health) but has been mispostioned as the dis/stress caused by lack of decent food and opportunities, repackaged and sold back to the public as “mental health” problems, so that this industry can continue to feed its self over and above the people- it NEEDS to remain impoverished- so its can stay in business and not suffer the same fate as those of us whose needs remain unmet —- BECAUSE they have fraudulently positioned the real problem as “mental health” rather than a legal rights issue of ACCESS to the resources we really need.
    12. A lot of therapy would be unnecessary if people had their basic needs met.
    13. Therapy can never hope to address the real medical needs of someone suffering from the host of real medical conditions caused by lack of access to the Social Determinants of Health.
    14. “More understanding”, is code for we are going to spend more decades wasting more billions maintaining the status quo of power.
    15. None of the services currently offered help the poor, but continue to unjustly enrich therapists at the expense of the poor.
    16. Are therapist currently so obtuse that they can’t grasp the ravages that poverty has on human beings, especially those they do see in their practice? It is shocking to consider that therapists and other professionals are so disconnected from the reality of the majority that they have to actually be TAUGHT by a public institution, that social inequity causes the human suffering.
    17. …”low income families generally start the therapeutic process with greater levels of distress, emphasizing the need for appropriate methods from the helping professional.” This is a bid for, continue to give us more of the money that is desperately needed and should be going directly into making real and meaningful changes to the social circumstances that cause human dis/stress and disease. This is a professional bid to keep the gravy train flowing into their mouths, instead of using it to feed the hungry.
    18. Food scarcity and living in a state of constant disequilibrium is a major cause of human suffering. If the poor had access to the resources that keep people safe and healthy, the need for counseling would lower dramatically.
    19. It is a disingenuous and self-serving insult to humanity to suggest:
    1) that the real physical health problems caused by poverty cause “mental health” (emotional problems that are alleviated by talking to a therapist.
    2) that public access to therapy is the answer to an empty stomach, the ravages of consuming sub-standard food on the health of the human body and that …’access and success in treatment”… could remotely solve the problem of poverty.
    20. There is also an element of victim blaming herein that subtly suggests victims subjected to the political violence of poverty would be “successful” in life, if they just had access to therapy.

    “The research, published in the journal Counselling and Psychotherapy Research, indicates that a chronic lack of money can be damaging to people’s health and wellbeing – something which currently isn’t widely acknowledged by policy makers and mental healthcare providers.”
    21. No kidding! How much of the public purse was wasted on figuring that out?
    22. Applying the chemical imbalance scam to this scenario, it is accurate to state that in the same way that a lack of serotonin does not cause the social construct “mental illness” or result in lack of “mental health”; a lack of therapy, does not cause the social construct “mental illness” or result in lack of “mental health,”
    23. Further, a chronic lack of money does not cause the social construct “mental illness” or result in lack of “mental health”, nor will these serious social problems be solved by sitting around talking about them with a therapist.

    They fooled us once people, lets not let them switch up the game in their favor and fool us again!
    ©JMGayton 6/9/18 MH, AB, CA.

  • There are 3 or 4 articles on tapering this week, all of which contradict each other.

    There are several important statements herein rarely discussed elsewhere:
    1. Permanent damage vrs protracted withdrawal
    2. SSRIS and Akathisia
    3. Rebound depression etc result from the failure to dx the root cause of the presenting symptoms (which are not diseases and do not by law require “treatment”)
    4. Tapering is no guarantee you will be spared the horrors of stopping neuro-toxic drugs which is more reason it is so unethical to continue in anyway supporting use of them.
    5. failure to study and warn about late-onset and longer-term symptoms

    This e-book does not remotely address legal informed consent

  • I can’t imagine a more problematic, unscientific bunch of BS than this.

    The sheer ignorance of failing to acknowledge that real science tells us, that all “disease” begins in the bowel and is a result of the stress response that causes inflammation in the body, is hands down medical malpractice. No one should have to continue to suffer because of the uneducated ignorance and unscientific woo-woo musings of some self-absorbed shrink.

    Head gamers like this, want us to believe that the very real symptoms of “depression” etc people suffer from is caused from our unconscious resistance to their BS – LOL. It makes sense that the gut would be repulsed and resistant to their lack of credibility, but they take us down the garden path in order to trap us into an endless implausible, improvable costly conversation where they get to enjoy hearing themselves drone on about spiritual crisis when according to real science, the root cause of most human problems are in the BODY. The normal stress response causes inflammation and triggers disease process (the warning signs of which are that people “feel bad”. Shitty life experienced also make people feel bad and prolonged uncontrollable distress exasperates the normal disease response as well.

    No amount of talking is going to cure someone’s vitamin deficiency, improper diet, unhealthy lifestyle, or inability to digest and benefit from the life giving nutrients they cannot assimilate or remotely address the symptoms of real diseases (medical mimics) causing the real “symptoms’ they are experiencing. In fact most medical diagnosis’s take between 5 to 7 years, during which time, the public is at high risk of being fraudulently labeled “mentally ill”, whether that dx comes wrapped in the notion that ones soul or ones brain is ‘sick”.

    The level of health one enjoys depends on the quality of nutrients they can assimilate and someone sitting around trying to manufacture false memories or the discontent in someone else “soul” while the root cause of what ails people is housed in the human body in which we all live, is hands down medical malpractice. The only thing this talk reminds me, is that Psychiatry is a pseudo-science desperately trying to reinvent its old street cred in the face of the mass exposure of its endless lies. And this is an example of their most advanced thinkers- HOWLING at the absurdity.

  • Such great connections between sexualized violence and psychiatric violence Sera.
    Asking providers what they were willing to give up, in order to help them begin to consider what users are forced to forfeit just to be “let in” the no-exist door of “MH”, is brilliant.
    Exercises like this, could be used as part of an activist manual to surviving the toxic stupidity of the system. Short of locking these head fk’s up in prison, baby steps to maturing them into fully functioning human beings, (assuming that’s possible) may be the only way to reach those “in charge”.
    Improving the quality of the lives that people who dare to experience distress are subjected to, may well depend on the ability to kiss ass (it seems that is exactly what many of those who are welcomed into their world, are adept at doing) and find ways to relate to those who enjoy the benefits abusing their power over others, affords them.
    It’s critical that we find ways to integrate this and other inter-related conversations into the #METOO movement, (that thank god, is not going away.) I am going to post this interview using that hashtag.
    It would be great if this could be posted in women’s enews and other such places. Paula Caplan posts there, so it is possible that they would be open to publishing it even though they are completely off base on the whole “MH” BS.
    Infiltrate the mainstream one toe at a time until we are maybe “allowed” to enjoy the rights and benefits that full person-hood affords “good, normal people” that these abusers are currently denying us.
    We.news (https://womensenews.org/)

  • Oh my goodness Bron, if the people dx’ed with BPD at Drop the Disorder and on Twitter at In the Bin etc, read what you wrote here…suffice it to say, they see the plight of their dx very differently than you positioned it for them.
    Over the last 10 years I have been involved in this movement, only groups of people who believe they are suffering from “depression and anxiety” (as if they were bona fide “diseases” v a set of symptoms the causes of which are at least 100) are more active and vocal than those dx’ed with BPD.
    They are adamant in their belief that they are the most harmed, hated, abused and the most likely to say their lives have been destroyed by the system. If you challenge the validity of that, be prepared to hear differently – or more likely, be banned.
    Per the litter-ature, most persons labeled with/as “BPD were victims of Child Sexual Abuse, mis dx’ed as “BPD”, drugged and trapped in the system to be belittled by uncaring professionals for most of their lives.
    From what I have read and witnessed, CSA is likely to be ground zero of the 3 ring circus that makes up the DSM dx fiasco’s… followed by ADDH, “s” and then “BP”.
    I follow “medical” trends and see several newly emerging problems developing across the board of sick care, which is in and of itself an incalculable, unsustainable disaster, more likely to bankrupt the country than any other mass scam being perpetrated against humanity on the planet today.

    As such, timely and important article Hannah. God’s speed to addressing any measure of the mess.

  • This has got to be one of – if not the most important -undercover- issues facing women’s health and safety today.
    I have seen a lot of law suits for new borns of Mothers on AD’s with heart disease and other malforamations, but little on research on this end, so good to see.
    Also noted that 274,000 infants (0-1 year olds) and some 370,000 toddlers are on psych drugs.
    Why Are So Many Toddlers Taking Psychiatric Drugs? – The Experts …
    https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/…/why-are-so-many-toddlers-taking-psychiatric-drugs/

  • Great points by all. This may be the turning point we need to really push for the end of the scam. The social conditions in which we live, are the most important factors affecting individual and community health. Lack of access to resources (the basic necessities of life) is a critical public health and safety issue. Contrary to popular belief, health has little to nothing to do with access to the sham of “Allopathic health care” currently sucking up the loins share of “allotted” resources. In fact, it has an inverse affect on health.

    There is a need to make reparations to oppressed (psychiatrized) and impoverished groups of people. As such, a wider systemic view of how oppression is sanctioned by the state and using the laws already in place, are the best hope we have to hold it accountable in upholding its duty to free all people from the oppression of poverty. The cost of not doing so is astronomical in terms of human pain and suffering, which is exactly why they refuse to do so, or pay lip-service to doing so with no meaningful follow through.

    The system uses any expression of “negative” human reaction- distress, anger, as evidence of “mental” instability which it has medicalized in order to justify its power to subjugate, punish, silence, other, discriminate and target people who speak out.

    Without access to decent food and housing (SDOH), people will eventually get physically sick. Lacking money that allows access to safe, effective (natural) alternative choices, people are forced to inter-face with the sub-standard Allopathic sick care system that automatically (force) streams and “screens” them for “mental illness”.

    Labeling poor, hungry, disenfranchised, hopeless people as “crazy” saves the time of rounding them up, tattooing them and putting them on a train. There is no exit from the system, it is a life-sentence for everyone trapped in it, after which it is easy to use the larger social structure to keep them subjugated and oppressed via misinformation and public belief.

    Drug (silence), fear and lock up the “crazies”, the reds, the disabled, the blacks, the gays; who ever the oppressed targeted enemy of the moment happens to be. The rhetoric is, in order for these people to live in dignity, we have to take the resources out of your pocket, which will in turn put your health and safety in jeopardy. That is how easy it is to pit people against each other, make them hate and live in fear of each other.

    In fact the middle class is already disappearing. The stress, sleepless worry and concerns for their own health and safety are twisted into ‘mental illness’s”, which if and when needed, are used against them to call into question their credibility and justify the “everyday abuse levied under the guise of “helping” them. It is in fact the systems way of helping themselves to the minds of the masses. The public hands over the power and control they fear losing to the system in return for the illusion of safety and help that is in fact a “medical fraud”. Not just an extension of the age old snake oil salesmen peddling poop in a pretty bottle, but true psychological war-fare on the naive, misinformed masses who unwittingly defend and protect their abusers.

    Please consider not participating in the “crazy” making of those who speak out or you/we disagree with. That is how the state turns groups of people into the enemy, (feared, dangerous, unstable) in order to justify harming/subjugating them with labels, drugs, loss of freedom and legal rights. Keep criticisms fact based as opposed to Ad Hominem slurs.
    Anyone fighting for illusive, non-existent, withheld justice (a form of social injustice and political violence) may wish to:
    understand the covenants the country in question signed or ratified with the UN and how this works
    understand the constitutional law (the Human Rights Act) in the country in question
    find the key case law that supports the duty to meet the peoples needs
    find the top lawyers or figure out how to draft a claim against the government
    Consider all means of bringing evidence of the harm and need for equality to light including the International Criminal court

  • I feel sick reading your all too common account of medical malpractice Meschelle.
    Sadly, all Allopathic drugs (not just psych drugs) cure nothing, mask vital symptoms that alert us to what is wrong, create imbalances and cause real disease in the body. Worse, conventional “medicine” fails to find or address the underlying root cause of what is ailing us as you said. For many this has nothing to do with past trauma but is simply misdiagnoses of a “medical mimic” IE: thyroid or some 60 other diseases that are labeled “mental illness’s”.
    I am happy to hear that you will be advocating to protect the millions who are misdiagnosed and mistreated (insurance fraud) by conventional “medicine’. We are in dire need of people who understand what is really going on and why despite wasting so much money on sick care, we suffer so much disease and continue turning to “medicine” as if it is the answer as opposed to the problem. If you are not already familiar, Dr. Kelly Brogan’s work will resonate with you.
    Best wishes in healing your mitochondria. You strength is an inspiration.

  • Thank you for this important resource that so clearly explains the key issues Tina. Will share widely.

    I am writing here to ask everyone involved in this movement, to please seriously, reconsider the need to include the dangers of anti-depressants as equally important as the warnings about the dangers of neuroleptics.

    As per the documented medical facts, in the 3 months I was on them, I suffered 3, back to back, near-death Adverse Drug Events (ADE) as a result of anti-depressants
    1. extreme suicidal ideation with a plan, on Prozac alone.
    2. A near-death bout of Serotonin Syndrome in which I was in and out of consciousness for 4 days, unable to walk or call 911
    3. In isolation at the ER, I was drugged almost to death over a 7 day period (first without my knowledge) and then against my right to bodily integrity and the right to refuse “treatment”. It was clear that I was dying and as per the chart, begged and literally fought to protect my life without success until succumbing to Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome, causing total organ poisoning, resulting in a 10-day coma and numerous diseases of the heart, liver, lungs and brai
    4. Two days later, after barely surviving coma, I was drugged with a neuroleptic and suffered a stroke

    As a vulnerable person, I was repeatedly coerced, misled under the guise of “education” and outright lied to into taking drugs, that I did not want or need for an imaginary “bi-polar” label I do not remotely fit the criteria of, against the rules of the fraudulent DSM. I was left with numerous permanent, progressive diseases that have dramatically altered my life.

    This is why I find the never-ending claims about which drug is the “worst” counter-productive and dangerously misleading. Anti-depressants are just as dangerous as neuroleptics in that they can kill anyone, at any time, at any dose. The dangers of taking them are under-considered and all too often completely dismissed, in comparison to the warnings about neuroleptics, which in part, allows for the in discriminant use of anti-depressants to continue largely unquestioned. This is problematic and must be rectified. With all due respect to those who take this position, please do not discount or exclude victims of anti-depressants, as part of Prohibition.

    As per Peter Breggin (who was my expert witness) ALL psychotropic drugs are neurotoxic and have been known to cause brain injury for over 40 years, in as little as 2 days in ALL people. They were never intended to be used for longer than 2 days, in the most extreme cases, under strict supervision, which as we all know, is not how they are used.

    I was/am, admittedly a brain injury survivor during the time that I was tortured by psychiatry. Despite the fact that all psychotropic drugs are contraindicated and unapproved for use in this vulnerable population, we are drugged without question or consideration of our higher risks of death and suicide. Persons with histories of diagnosed and UN-diagnosed brain injury, make up between 50 and 80% of persons who are homeless, in and out of prison and in and out of psych wards. Because most blows are to the head and face, abused women sustain brain injury at alarmingly high rates. Contrary to their best interest, they are automatically labeled as “mentally ill” and forced streamed into the ‘MH’ system where they and their children are labeled and drugged. The cycle is endless.

    Below are the first few articles in a list from a google search for “how many people die from taking anti-depressants?”
    Thank you
    Judy

    Antidepressants may raise death risk by a third – Medical News Today
    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319462.php
    Sep 19, 2017 – A new study suggests that common antidepressants may pose a serious risk to health; they drastically raise the risk of mortality. As many as 1 in 10 people in the United States take medication for depression.

    They Cause 40,000 Deaths a Year – But They’re Handed Out Like Candy
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/…/tips-to-avoiding-depression.aspx
    May 3, 2011 – There are many reasons why they don’t work the way most people think they work, or want them to work.

    Study finds antidepressants increase risk of death | New York Post
    https://nypost.com/2017/09/14/study-finds-antidepressants-increase-risk-of-death/
    Sep 14, 2017 – I think people would be much less willing to take these drugs if they were aware how little is known about their impact outside of the brain, and that what we do know points to an increased risk of death.” The study also found antidepressants aren’t harmful to people with cardiovascular diseases, like heart .

    Antidepressants Overdose – Side Effects of Antidepressants – Treatment
    https://www.allaboutcounseling.com/library/antidepressants-overdose/
    Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs); this type of antidepressant is the second leading cause of death from drug overdose in the U.S. (Anafranil, Sinequan, Tofranil, Pamelor, Norpramin); Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs); this type is currently the safest and most commonly prescribed antidepressants (Celexa, …

    Do Antidepressants and Other Psychiatric Drugs Kill a Half Million …
    https://medium.com/…/do-antidepressants-and-other-psychiatric-drugs-kill-a-half-milli…
    Dec 6, 2016 – Executive Summary. Antidepressant use is very high; An anti-psychotic drug, Abilify, is the number one best-selling drug (by revenue) in the US; People who take psychiatric drugs have much higher death rates; Psychiatric drugs appear to be so ineffective that the higher death rates couldn’t possibly be …

    Antidepressants Tied to a Significantly Increased Risk for Death
    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/886015
    Sep 21, 2017 – “The common wisdom is that antidepressants are safe and effective, and by treating people with depression with antidepressants, we can save lives. However, research over the last decade has shown that antidepressants are much less effective than we had thought.

    New research found antidepressants may increase risk of early death …
    nationalpost.com/…/new-research-found-antidepressants-may-increase-risk-of-early-deat…
    Sep 17, 2017 – They found antidepressant (AD) users had a 33 per cent higher chance of death over people not on the drugs. They also had a 14 per cent … carry a risk of increased mortality.”

    Antidepressants raise the risk of an early death by 33% | Daily Mail …
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article…/Antidepressants-raise-risk-early-death-33.html
    Sep 13, 2017 – They believe the protective impact of the drugs among patients with cardiovascular disease has been masking the impact on other patients for years. But the scientists stressed that although the relative risk of death was high

    Antidepressant use linked to higher risk of premature death: study …
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/…/antidepressant-use-linked-to-higher-risk-of-premature-death-s…
    Sep 18, 2017 – A study led by researchers at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ont., found that the risk of early death increased by 33 per cent in people who take antidepressants, compared to non-users.

    Treating Antidepressants Overdose | Drug Overdose Treatment
    https://www.recovery.org/topics/treating-antidepressant-overdose/
    Can You Die From an Antidepressant Overdose? – If you or someone you know is abusing antidepressants and is at risk of overdose, call 1-888-319-2606Who Answers? to learn more about recovery options. Antidepressant overdose can be fatal.

  • Important to note that “psychosis” is an experience that can be brought on by lack of sleep, ADE to street or prescription drugs, lack of B vitamin, being on a ventilator, dehydration and is a symptom of over 60 medical diseases. As such drugging it is medical malpractice. The number of people who end up with a specious “mental illness” dx because they were suffering a one time event is incalculable as is the long-term damage to their lives. Seeking the root cause of the experience is not the preview of Allopathic quackery- it has NOTHING to do with health or healing, it pathologizes people for profit. Nothing could be sicker or more twisted than that.

  • Good idea to use the graphics indeed.
    Just noting that:
    Health Canada issues a 2005 warning stating that AD’s carry the same risk of suicidal ideation in ADULTS, as they do in other populations. This fact gets missed repeatedly.
    the risk of completed suicide is 12X higher for Prozac than other AD’s.
    And that the most important fact of all is missing, which is that the DSM is junk science – rendering the ‘treatment” of imaginary “diseases” mass medical malpractice, insurance fraud and defamation of character to slander and accuse people of being “mental ill” with no scientific evidence supporting the claim.

  • Just making a quick note here Julie….
    what was discovered is that here in Canada, the only jurisdiction in the world that uses it’s own citizens tax payer money against victims of medical malpractice to crush us with in court when they kill, disable or maim us, has 85% of its dr’s working without insurance and as such, without valid licenses.
    This is not a handful of quacks running around rogue, it is business as usual and like most “medical” scams has been kept pretty quiet as you can imagine.
    Bryan knows a LOT about the justice system and has made his legal documents (which are well done and eye-opening) available to all so that can be used as a template by others wishing to expose shrinks for the lying criminals they are.
    Finally, the limitations law does stop the clock from ticking when a person is under a disability or has to take care of their health prior to compiling discovery and evidence proving they have a case— it also states 2 years from the time you knew or should have known… Having challenged the limitations law in my own case and won that appeal, I like to make sure people are aware of that.
    Like everything else in the law, it is a living breathing ever changing system grounded in human rights, addressed on a case by case basis and challenged by people who are creative enough to position novel arguments that by law must be heard.
    Best

  • Actually that is not the test Oldhead. Owing to a pending HR deadline, I don’t have time to provide the jurisprudence on it here in Canada where Bryan lives, which is the same in the US. But you will be happy to know that the notion that practitioner can hide behind “accepted practice’ has been challenged and overcome. The law is a living tree that changes through challenge.

  • Dear Auntie Psychiatry,

    Hello. I am genuinely confused as to how this writer could possibly be a threat to psychiatry when by insisting that every human experience under the sun is or causes a mental illness (no quotes) is not simply setting up million more kids to be handed over to them?

    He’s pro shrink and pro “crazy” labels. How is that not a shrinks dream voice? What I heard was a mainstream propagandist regurgitating medical model mentality that does nothing but widen the psychiatric net.

    Did I miss something here, because all I got from listening to the interview was how many “LOST CONNECTIONS”, and how much disconnect there is between:
    1) the writer and the facts, (who speaks “as if” what he was told by the shrinks he interviewed and believes to be true, is true) and that none of it is in question or dis-proven when in fact it all is.
    2) In failing to know or consider that an anti and critical psych movement even exists and thus he seems to have failed to investigate why it does and what the issues are.
    3) In failing to consider or grasp the cost to the children he is declaring “mentally ill” of being lead into the system under false pretenses of having a diseased brain there is a massive disconnect between the writer and the very real human children whose lives will be impacted. I truly question his alliances and who he is supporting.
    4) The disconnect between claiming to be anti-drug and knowing there is little to no access to the alternatives he supports and as such, he again failed to consider, how many children will end up drugged because he and countless others are currently screaming that anything and all things that can happen in life cause and are in fact “mental illness’s”.

    I don’t support anyone anywhere, labeling poor or any other child as “mentally ill” for any reason, ever.

  • Really good points from Julie, Richard. Poora and others.

    As someone who favors a legal approach – a legitimate “junk science” litigation against the DSM and APA for fraud, rampant misdiagnosis without proof or evidence which is actionable medical malpractice and insurance fraud, crimes against humanity via the ICC, defamation of character suits and HR violations are all possible and they ARE coming and many more.

  • Hi Walter,
    I would suggest that the lack of interest in the “recovery” movement is that it continues to require people to uphold the DSM lie that they are “mentally diseased” with “s’ or some other imaginary disease to begin with. They have to pretend they were “MI” and get to pretend they “recovered’ from a disease they never had to begin with and they still have to live with the tainted “medical” docs and the “genetic” lie that follows their family around until the end of time. Good luck getting anyone that actually knows what’s going on to trade their real integrity for their fake “sanity.”

  • SOCIAL PRESCRIBING: or the “everything under the sun theory”.
    He throws into the mix, the genetic myths, the specious “brain changes” that everything under the sun has been accused of causing (including dehydration, lack of vitamin B and lack of sleep) and now loneliness, is a “mental illness” too. Seriously, just label EVERYONE “mentally ill” and get it over with.
    NO ONE- NO ONE is safe from this shit.

  • ScottEv January 13, 2018 at 12:29 am
    “There can be no authentic therapeutic alliance when psychiatric coercion is involved in psychiatric treatment.”

    Exactly. How do these bazaar propositions (that fail to include the fact that there isn’t a shred of science upholding the existence of the DSM, drugging people for imaginary improvable “diseases”) dare to suggest that any such “therapeutic alliance” is remotely possible in the sea of lies that this industry is awash in? If the truth was known or told as per legal informed consent, Steingard’s notion of a “therapeutic relationship” would be laughed out of the room as the complete and utter sham it is.

    The more I read here at MIA, the more I fear for the future of the humanity which functions almost exclusively on pretending the lies don’t exist and shoving these irrational contradictions into the faces of people who know they do. Why? What is the purpose of the exercise? To see how many of us can tolerate it without screaming?

    What is happening here, meets the definition of “crazy making”, in that the lies were exposed to us, that we grasp and see through the lies and then we are asked- in the very same space – to pretend we don’t know the lies and are asked to entertain, implausible BS about the very “relationships’ with the very people who are profiting from the lies and pretend that they are somehow here to help us and that if we only had good relationships with our abusers, that we would be somehow miraculously healed despite their ugly fraudulent slurs (dx’s) against us and their dirty toxic “treatments’ justifying their slurs against us.

    This is EXACTLY like telling children raped by their fathers and women beaten by their husbands that they themselves are the problem; that they are “mentally ill” and that they have “relationship issues” with “authority figures”.

    So much of what is being written here at MIA of late is increasingly toxic and disturbing, but this is particular egregious. Love your abuser.

    The real sickness in the world, is the ability of this industry to keep lying through its teeth, to keep inventing absurd, illogical, deeply disturbing contradictions to the lies as if we have no idea how twisted it all is.
    God help us because these people are deeply unwell at the core of their beings.

  • Why not just line us up and shoot us all now and get it over with? Because then you couldn’t get rich off the misfortunes of others you claim to ‘care’ for.

    This is the WORST IDEA I have ever heard in my entire life.

    None of us can escape the invented diagnosis as it stands and now people I thought were actually on the side of saving humanity and protecting human beings, are throwing the last of us to the wolves.
    The only saving grace in the DSM was that there was a POSSIBLE BUFFER for the massive trauma and harm caused by the of social trauma to maybe escape being pathologized by this unending evil rag. Now psychologist, who the author is CORRECT, have NO f- business trying to get their hands on the money that SHOULD be used to build healthy communities via the tried and true Social Determinants of Health and… now Kinderman wants to throw social inequity into the sick dx system TOO!!!

    This is a crime and anyone who supports this is supporting crimes against humanity in supporting the further and final solution of the Medicalization of Social problems. I thought there was way too much propaganda and insidious creep into MIA- now it is clear that this is where they con-verstaions having been heading all along.

    We are done for- its over. All is lost. All is lost.

  • I am a Canadian woman disabled in the crime of domestic battery, systemically discriminated by police who all too often obstruct justice against vulnerable persons, later sent by my brain injury team to a shrink with no informed consent who repeatedly drugged me causing 4 back to back near-death adverse drug events, using toxins I didn’t want or need, for an imaginary disease I don’t have, that are contraindicated and unapproved for use in vulnerable brain injury survivors because they have been known for over 40 years to cause brain injury – to say nothing of the suicide, early death, disability and addiction caused by the ‘sick care” industry. Despite this, they are happy to kill us with their sick lying diagnosis and their dirty Allopathic drugs anyway, because no one holds them accountable for the crimes they commit against us.

    Enter the elephant in the room. the legal system discrimination and abuse that most victims of sick care never get close enough to (by design) to begin to address the fraud and abuse of the former. The government, sick care and the legal system work in concert to silence and block the legal rights of victims iatrogenically re-injured by the vile medicalization of social problems that this author fails to address. His bias, via the Aspie story, is plain and obvious.

    There is much more to this currently unfolding nightmare of serious dangers and risk of death lurking in so called “care” that is rooted in the medicalization language that is obscured here. And it is destroying the fabric of society. As we die and our lives continue to be ruined, people such as this author get to keep their pathetic jobs.

    Social inequality is rooted in the justifications for continuing to harm innocent victims while people who profit off regurgitating it, continue to make lame justifications that maintain their dirty business as usual practices. No wonder there is so much hate against the 1%. This diatribe makes me physically sick to my stomach.

    Here is a brief glimpse into the realities lurking behind some of what was not said herein.
    Physician and Patient Safety, Hospital Governance, Nurse Collective Bargaining
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqPr_cy02PA

  • Shrinks and GP’s have NO BUSINESS putting their greedy hands into and scamming whatever tax dollars they don’t already pocket and waste on their corrupt discriminatory, pathologizing of life and social problems as if they were diseases.

    We need SOCIOLOGISTS, ethical psychologist and others who practice non-pathologizing trauma therapies to step up and do their jobs rather than sitting back and allowing these disease mongering thieves and liars to destroy any hope there is of salvaging the damage they have already done to the lives of millions, to the environment, to the social fabric and to the economy.

    These “mental health” mongers seeking to make everyone “sick” for their own personal benefit must be stopped.

    There are strong connections to the #METOO movement in terms of social abuse by the power abusing 1% forcing their will on women and the young. These groups continue to be used, abused, experimented on with impunity, defrauded of their “health” (psychiatry knows nothing about human health) silenced, shamed, blamed, insulted, betrayed and subjugated by a truly evil system run by truly dangerous people.

    We need to make, expand and disseminate those connections in a way that allows the reality that psychiatry is a the king pin of the sick systemic destroying the social fabric and now it is seeking to co-opt the SDOH too. DISCUSTING!!!!

    We need to form a logical alliance with the #METOO and other movements, in order to further break away from, expose the crimes of and refuse to support any further involvement of psychiatry (which is the key structural evil that needs to be abolished) rather than handing the keys to what is left of our social structure over to them to destroy.

    Psychiatry (GP’s) et al, have absolutely NO BUSINESS putting their corrupt, incompetent hands on the critical Social Determinants of Health. They are NOT sociologists and social problems are not imaginary diseases they should continue to be allowed to profit off, to the collective detriment of the world.

    The message to psychiatry and anyone supporting the medial model that medicalizes social problems, is get out and stay out, keep your dirty “sick care”, take your bags of blood money and leave the little you haven’t already stolen, so the rest of us can try to rebuild everything your toxic industry is killing. The nightmare of endless lies and abuse will never stop unless and until the fraud of psychiatry and its handmaiden of death, Allopathic “medicine” are abolished. Anyone supporting the fraudulent notion of “mental health” without scientific evidence, is equally guilty of the crimes against humanity. Refuse to support them in any respect.

  • Failure to grasp that what people consume (including the quality of the air they breathe, how much sun they get, the toxins and stress they are exposed to, the drugs they take and the quality of the food/nutrients they eat) is critical to the level of HEALTH they enjoy, how they think and feel, how well they are able to deal with the stress of life is mind boggling.
    To divorce food, diet and other lifestyle factors from ones health, is the epitome of ignorance and the worst possible fall out of the reductionist biological medical model. It assumes and is ignorant of the fact that human beings have bodies that actually require basic nutrients that support life and cause death.
    The Social Determinants of Health have already shown that access to decent food, and other basic necessities of life are what create healthy people and communities.
    How can someone grasp that ‘mental illness’ is a fraud and at the same time nurture a massive glitch in thinking that cannot connect nutrition and lifestyle to how healthy someone is?
    Reading these comments, it is sadly clear why we can’t fix the problems; people have no idea what health is or how to create it. It honestly makes me question if these people are trolls, Allopathic misinformation mongers or just ———- ————- ————.

  • How anyone speaking the truth, could support the half truths in this article, as if it was remotely a solution, is beyond me.
    We know that the NIMH withdrew all funding for the DSM5 owing to a total lack of scientific credibility, thus forcing the APA to pay to publish that manifesto of eugenics and genocide itself.
    We know that misdiagnosis and mistreatment of trauma,“medical mimics” and social problems being mislabel as “mental illness, chemical imbalances and brain disease’s” is medical malpractice and insurance fraud.
    We know that there is not a shred of science proving the existence of any “mental illness” and yet these medical frauds continue to twist and skew the the message in order to keep the fraud alive.
    We know that when “dr’s” who misdiagnosing people with cancer or other diseases they don’t have for profit, get caught, they go to prison as they should. And we know that is not happening to ‘mental illness’ pushers, but that it absolutely NEEDS to happen- NOW.
    We know that the DSM/ICD and any organization supporting the notion that “mental illness” is anything but a social construct and invention of the biological medical model, to justify coercion/force, mass misinformation, is selling drugs to make the 1% richer and is part of the systemic corruption that is harming the public.
    We know that Allopathic “medicine” is a monopoly that functions as a drug cartel that cornered the market share on selling its toxic wares by maligning and blocking insurance coverage of natural health and healing, thus leaving the public ignorant about and defendant on a wholly sub-standard toxic “sick-care” industry that gets away with mass-murder.
    Rhetorically, what does this even mean… “We all have mental health?” Only someone profiting from a (BS[email protected]%^%*)”mental illness” agenda could utter such a statement and position themselves on the right side of this medical tragedy.
    This year, lets challenge the hell out of the half truths supporting those earning a living off towing the line between truth and lies that are harming and killing the public.
    The dangers of willful blindness- Margaret Heffernanj
    https://www.ted.com/speakers/margaret_heffernan

  • Kelly Brogan is an author here at MIA, who uses nutrition with great success to cure problems misdiagnosed as “mental health” issues.
    Nutrition is an actual science, whereas psychiatry is a total pseudo-science and fraud.
    Food is LIFE GIVING, and vitamins are called “essential nutrients” because people get sick and die without them, which includes the symptoms of so called “mental illness’ that disease mongering shrinks are trying to claim as “novel” territory. It is by no means novel; they are simply looking for ways to expand the market share AND keep the myths of “mental illness” alive.
    Just because something is not widely discussed on MIA does not mean it is not being discussed elsewhere, it is.
    Like everything else psychiatry puts its dirty hands on, nutrition is being co-opted by the disease mongers who continue to insist that people are ‘mentally ill” even though nutrition is the most basic key to good health there is; something Allopathic “medicine”, knows nothing about.
    This conversation is beyond disturbing.
    Dr. Brogan where are you?

  • It is both a simple blood test and mandatory part of the process to rule out nutritional deficencies when providing a differential diagnosis which includes testing for thyroid and other real medical conditions.
    I find most of what is being suggested here to be based on personal interest and without interest in letting these kids or anyone else off the “mental illness” hook.
    Beyond disturbing.

  • It is beyond disturbing that vitamin deficiencies continue to be labeled as if they were “mental illness’s”.
    I can’t imagine anything more unethical than this.
    I follow Dr. Mercola and a few other natural based doctors, who are starting to speak the truth and call a vital nutrient deficiency what it is; a nutritional deficiency instead of what it isn’t ; a “mental illness’.
    Half a truth is still a lie.

  • Interesting points and a lot to consider.
    I am deeply at odds with the “recovery” movement and do not support anything about the reforming this corrupt industry. It is good to see what other people’s critiques are because I am still trying to tease out what is really going on. Thanks

  • Hi. Thanks for these responses, that forced me to go back and listen to again. I made some notes and am going to listen to it a few more times, as it is helping me ask better questions about what I might be missing or misunderstanding that it is that is making me viscerally reject the movement that I am in many respects completely invested in, but don’t feel I fit into.

    It’s almost like Celia read my mind and pointed me in the right direction(s) to explore there issues further that might help me figure out what I need to do in order to find or potentially create a place for myself in it. I appreciate that she touched on how the issues change because I see things that I believe have to be incorporated that are not yet on the radar, as that is part of what is missing for me.

    In terms of the statement about the drugs, as someone who was repeatedly poisoned almost to death and disabled by them, I am very sensitive to words that could potentially be misleading .
    @7:34…”some of these psych drugs cause real harm”…
    @7:42…”some of the harm of some of these drugs”…
    I would personally be a lot more comfortable if the word “some” was removed for the sake of accuracy.

    As usual Emily, excellent interview. Its a solid 101 overview that I wish I had access years ago.

  • Hi TirelessFigher3. I wonder if you would expand on your understanding of what you have stated above.
    These groups would of course argue that they are organizing and fighting.
    As I see it, they do this using a downstream vs an upstream approach, meaning they fighting for kinder abuse after people are already labeled and force streamed into the no-exit system using a “Please sir, less torturous ‘treatment” if you would be so kind… and can we please have some choice about taking neurotoxic drugs and ECT for the imaginary ‘diseases” you fraudulently labeled us with in order to justify defaming us with “mental illnesses” and force streaming us into this toxic drug pushing system to begin with?
    I can see how one would see that the way you describe it above and feel that there is something deeply off about this approach as well. Especially given that we already know the medical model is a legal fraud and yet here they are acting as if it had some validity to the system somewhere.
    It is absolutely mind-boggling to the logical mind.

  • Shockingly, until now, I missed the extent of the problem the “mad” movement poses to the world.
    While the rest of us are trying to stop the “mental illness/mad” DSM fraud in an attempt to protect the public health and safety, this groups insistence on being “mad” with no evidence and despite a ever growing mountain of evidence to the contrary, the rest of the world is paying and will continue to pay for their unsubstantiated claims.

    Psychiatry must love the “mad movement”.

    If I understand Tireless correctly, the issue with ALL helping professions is that they are profiting UNDER THE GUISE that there is something fundamentally WRONG with people who think, feel, believe or experience anything that can be pathologized for profit.

    Who does and does not participate in pathologizing people is determined on a case by case basis. Psychologist are typically much less dangerous to the public health and safety and the vast majority at DTD and MIA are ethical, trustworthy people speaking out against the fraud.

    The “mad” movement, however is a serious problem that has been and will continue to be used to block progress and perpetuate continued harm to anyone in social, spiritual and real medical crisis. Its time we took a long hard look at it with our eyes wide open.

  • As always, in the search to uphold some illusion of “madness” and BS notions of broken brains, the practical facts have been omitted.

    Experiences of psychosis, can be caused by lack of sleep, dehydration, lack of proper nutrition, including B vitamins, being on a ventilator, an adverse drug event including to psych drugs and weed, exposure to toxins and some 60 real medical diseases. I shutter to think of the number of people’s whose lives have been ruined because the causal agents of psychosis have been so completely pathologized as some woo-woo experience. Like everything else about psychiatry, its bloody criminal.

  • Larry you are making assumptions that no one was there for Matt, including his family, friends, or the persons who had carriage of his care.
    You have blamed Matt and appear to be using his untimely demise to further your adgenda to get people to agree that if only Matt had done it your way then he would still be here. Larry can you please tell us what it is you know that is so special and could have saved him? What is it that you are studying that you want so badly for everyone “to get” but are not telling us point blank what it is? I’m sure everyone is bursting with curiousity about what you know that can save lives. Thank you

  • Exactly Oldhead, why are we forced to pussy foot around the ignorant? Killing human beings with impunity and drugging children for fake diseases is so beyond offensive
    and we are held to the standard of not offending those who defend the guilty. The level of protectionism around these illegal acts is so offensive there are no apt words to describe how vile it is. I know these people are allowed to be here, but to me its offensive to allow them space here, when they have so many in which to high five each other for getting away with murder, in. Why don’t they go there? Why they are here, why not be with those who think like you instead of coming here and pushing their mass ignorance in our faces? They have to be getting something out of it. I wish I was allowed the freedom to say what I really feel about it, but I am not. It makes me physically sick to my stomach.

  • Maradel, I could not agree with you more. As a victim of medical malpractice, I feel for your situation. If I can figure out how to start a new thread here, I will post possible solutions. I follow other medical malpractice victims and the system is a disater beyond description. I have brought a great deal of psych fraud into other medical malpractice survivor groups and tried to bring information about rampanent misdiagnosis and mistreatment in all “medicine” to light in psych survivor groups. Other victims are more likely to get it than psych survivors who have to fight so much stigma as well. Interestingly when I ask other med mal survivors (thyroid, any autoimmune disease, fibro, Lyme, abused women, ect) if they were psychiatized before they were properly dx’ed a lot of them admit to being labeled with conversion (all in your head) disorders and drugged. This impedes their ability to get medical services and makes their pre-existing conditions worse. Some remain under the false belief that they remain “mentally ill”. Psychiatry has its hand in everyones pocket and puts its mark on countless lives. I will not go into this further here, but suffice it to say that you make a critical point and if we were to join with other med mal victims, this movement would really start to grow. Thank you

  • I hear you YetAnotherAccount. This fear mongering is indeed one tactic used to justify force “treatment” (which has nothing to do with “medicine” and is nothing but state control).
    There is however compelling evidence that the drugs do cause violence and self harm. When we put those facts out there, they are twisted and spun to be used against us and justify more ill treatment. The arguements from our side are valid but when the intent is to profit at any cost (including human lives) any tactic to maintain control over that money and power will continue to be employed against the public health and safety.

  • You capture well that slice of the torture you endured Fred. I am so sorry they did this to you and would not stop.
    Claims of “well-meaning” and “loving” people doing what they do to others is so insensitive, that to my mind, can only be being written by a shrink trying to justify the money for nothing abuse they collectively inflict on innocent suffering beings.
    I hope it does not traumatize you further. It absolutely sickens me to my core. The goal of this kind of moking torment is to prop up a dirty dying industry and as such deserves nothing from us, not a second of our time. Of course defend yourself if that feels right, but we’re talking to a wall, incapable of caring about the dead, disabled, addicted and lied to victims.

  • Your missing the point, which is that all the dx’s are a fraud and people’s health and lives are being put at risk because they are conned without informed consent into using dangerous drugs they do not need. These antidotial claims that drugs are “saving people’s lives” are unfounded and can be put down to placebo effects, none of which are protective of brain, liver, kidney and other inevitable damage.
    The scientific consensus shows they are more harmful than beneficial.
    Without psychiatric fraud, people would have to build skills to overcome the challenges they face rather than relying on drugs to cope. Society could put the money to better use in building communities where people are not so vulnerable that they don’t have any choice but to turn to a system of social control that functions under the guise of being “medicine.” Of the many things that shock me about your declarations, is that you clearly have either failed to read any of the articles posted here at MIA or you completely disagree with almost everything that is exposed here. It’s a real head scratcher. Good luck to you, you’ll need it. And really, I am not interested in your comments so please don’t reply to me, I’m done reading anything you have to say.

  • Who gives a dam what she is. Frankly, I couldn’t care less.
    You think quiet highly of her. A patient, are you Larry? Or just looked her up real quick so you could have a go….

    She claimed to be “s”, which is not a disease.
    Bottom line: start with a lie… live a lie and spread those lies to others. That’s the real disease; the amount of people willing to sell lies for a living, despite the harm to others. It’s a sickness of the heart and soul and the real evil in the world. That’s what I think of her and anyone supporting her.

  • Thanks for filling in the blanks on this rasselas.redux.
    I think the bottom line is she’s a shrink, pushing the brain disease myth. My point is simply, you can’t cure something that doesn’t exist. Start with a lie………

  • “No one knows how many people with “severe mental illness” live what appear to be normal, successful lives…They are too busy juggling responsibilities, paying the bills, studying, raising families — all while weathering gusts of dark emotions or delusions that would quickly overwhelm almost anyone else.”

    Please, this is such a contradiction between the myth of the frightening other that “SMI” was manufactured to be and the reality of everyday life struggled twisted, sold and bought “as if” it is “SMI” that it boarders on the ridiculous.

    What Linehan is really exposing here, is people’s need for skills to manage their complex and busy lives, without which things can become unmanageable. Whatever that looks like, is almost always across the board falsely accused of evidence of “mental illness” for which, there is no evidence and is a such, rediculous.

    If a so called “brain disease” is cured by behavioral therapies and mindful meditation, come on, it was never a brain disease to begin with. Absolutely rediculous.

    D.B.T for BDP is not widely accepted as appropriate in the UK. You yourself noted that this slur is typically designated to victims of Child Sexual Abuse, which is a deeply traumatizing crime. Labeling victims is understood to be discriminatory, harmful, victim blaming and D.B.T, in lue of trauma informed care, keeps victims stuck in the system as fodder for life because the root cause of their issues are never properly addressed.

    “I still have ups and downs, of course, but I think no more than anyone else.”

    “Of course”, like the rest of us, this formerly “SMI” person was miraculously cured of an imaginary brain disease with simple life skills and meditation, because she never had a brain disease that doesn’t exist to begin with. Again, ridiculous.

    As for Linehan’s ironic closing remark… “There’s so much more light”… sadly psychiatry along with all its supporters remains in the dark ages.

  • With all due respect Jedlsfs, although you hit the nail on part of the head, consider that when stating,

    “We need to look at societal factors, not just blaming it all on psychiatry”

    … this is indeed a problem, but not in the way you position it. It is more accurate to say that, psychiatry is blaming the brain when it should be pointing the finger of causality on social issues.

    Psychiatry’s slight of hand (scam) is in taking all social realities (poverty, violence, drug abuse, real medical illness (medical mimic) and underhandedly morphing them into “mental illness’s”. They have cornered the market on real problems for profit and are to blame for force streaming every problem of living, into a brain disease and positioned themselves as the only solution and forcing everyone into the “mental health” system, where all they do is mislabel, mistreat (the answer to poverty, crime and real medical illness, is not neurotoxic drugs.) They turn people into the problem.

    Social problems belong with sociologists who study the Social Determinants of Health, which has little to nothing to do with access to Allopathic sick care.

    If you go to FB group Drop the Disorder you will note most of the professionals there have debunked the fraud of BPD. The DSM5 (for the nothing its worth) was going to scrap “personality disorders” in this addition but did not, this leaving countless people to become victims of this stigmatizing, discriminatory and harmful label -most of whom, as you note, are actually victims of CSA.

    The NIMH withdrew all funding for the DSM5 owing to its lack of scientific credibility; it could never withstand a junk science litigation. By law misdiagnosis, is medical malpractice and filing a claim in order to get someone (help) into the system or get yourself paid, is insurance fraud. All DSM dx’s are a medical scam. Two (2) important legal actions, both against the same shrink, recently came out in Canada. Hopefully this starts a trend that will eventually shut this mass fraud against the public health and safety down and the money wasted on ‘mental health” can be spent on the things that build health (SDOH) to the betterment, vrs the detriment of society. Best

  • Hi Erin. If people are given full legal informed consent (not happening for all the obvious reasons)and are willing to risk their health and safety by agree to be labeled and drugged with neurotoxins for imaginary “diseases”, then it is, that simple. Forfeit your right to access justice when something horrific happens. No one really cares or will come to the rescue anyway.
    What we’re fighting for here is, 1) the truth and 2) intelligent treatment befitting victims of CSA, persons in poverty, those suffering with medical mimics ect who are in fact, those accused of being “mentally ill” and trapped in an abusive, no-exist system. We are fighting against the vast injustices the accused are collectively suffering at the hands of a socially abusive psychiatric regime, including the outright fraud that psychiatry is and our right to exercise our rights which are being denied to us, all of which you edited out.
    Many of us are done talking to brick walls, sitting on the fence while a massive tragedy that extends way beyond the one we are currently processing, ensues all around us.
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but really, its only meaningful if its grounded in fact. We’re all free to think as we do, but it doesn’t change the reality and maybe just points out your own disconnect to what’s really going on.
    MIA’s notice today speaks to part of the crisis…
    http://mailchi.mp/madinamerica/mad-in-america-webinar-series-psychiatric-drug-withdrawal?e=e415d5e0d7

  • Hi Oldhead.
    I could be wrong, but I believe his sister may have that. At FB group Drop the Disorder, Jo Watson who broke the news to our group noted that (parapharsing) Matt asked his sister to leave something with her and anyone who felt a connection with him could PM Jo for that information. I hope that helps.
    My deepest condolences to his Matts family.
    Judy

  • Matt’s passing is a testament to the dire need for us to continue challenging the myths around the DSM and the mass medical malpractice of misdiagnosis.
    It seems to me, that Matt knew with every fiber of his being that it was the heart of the problem, which if we fail to resolve, nothing will ever change.
    It is so needless, this loss of Matt. But that doesn’t mean I don’t understand the weight of what he was looking at. I do; it has destroyed me too. The wins are far and few between and the forces against reason are deeply vested. It was a dragon worthy of his fear and we could never fault him for that.
    This is what these ugliest of words do to us. We’re only human and these words come with consequences that are all too often, insurmountable for the mere mortals that we are. These words cannot be undone and their invasion knows no limits and compromise, even the best of us, even the learned, the wise, the writer, the speaker, the healer and most certainly, the truly broken.
    Thank you to everyone who works to dismantle the lies that scar and destroy so many innocent people. No one should be made to suffer so deeply as Matt did or – god forbid die – because they were already in pain and hurting. Why, why would we punish him more? It is inconceivable to the human heart.
    Rest in peace Matt. May your passing bring some measure of quite pause and deeply needed consideration about the level of discrimination we put upon a person when we fraudulently call them “mentally ill”.

  • People are dead and dying because they have been labelled “mentally ill”. The term itself is used to justify the abuse that follows. It not only ‘others’ human beings, it’s an outright fallacy.
    Your entitled to your opinion and the woo-woo belief’s, but beyond the confusing, contradictory thought process, the message is contrary to the hard work of dispelling “mental illness” myths and the statements herein are counter-productive to the health and safety of the collective.
    The goal is to protect people from the harm that is housed within the fraudulent propaganda of the idea of “mental illness” itself, thus, when sheer nonsense sits beside concrete facts as if it fits within the same realm, it damages not only the message but the movement itself and ultimately people’s lives.

  • I agree. A very confusing and poorly written article on the topic.
    The contradition between suggesting that sensitive people are labelled “mentally ill” and suggesting “Everyone is Mentally Ill and that some of us who are labeled as such and thus ostracized by these labels” loses the impact of the point. Such an important topic, so poorly explained.

    So yes, those of us labeled mentally ill are often closer to sanity than most of society.
    Good lord. I do NOT read this writer and hope that someone else will write on this critical topic. I can’t share this with anyone I am working to educate on this topic.

  • I correct myself and perhaps worded my post badly in what should have been a new thread in respect to Twilah act of activism.
    Bonnie Brustow, Tina Minkowitz and Chuck Ruby of ISEPP all recent put forth opportunities for people to participate in changing this broken system.
    The conversation remains important: what kind of change is needed, what is currently happening, where are people meeting and is there currently an information hub where people can find this out in order to participate? It seems to be here and other than that, pretty dispersed. Is MIA willing.able to be that space or should another space be created?
    Thank you

  • Sadly, I agree with this statement. There is no right action being taken against the fraud of the DSM at MIA that allows room for the medical model that is killing and disabling of humanity.
    Considering an anti-NIMH movement, other than to expose it for what it is, ignore it at all costs like one would any other social ill and concentrate on what must be done to move in the opposite direction.
    The anti-psychiatry movement, if congruent to its own truth and the massive body of facts already at our disposal, can, should and must challenge the legitimacy of using the DSM to diagnose people, as the junk science it is under Daubert in a court of law- repeatedly if necessary. The downstream approach of fishing dead and disabled victims out of the water, is ineffective and unethical in the face of the evidence. Our collective failure to do so, despite the evidence, exposes/presents a wishy-washy, mixed message that allows the mainstream to continue to be dismissive of the anti-psych movement at large.
    The questions are, is there an anti-psych movement, if so where is it, who are its leaders and what is it actively doing to stop the fraud and carnage?
    NAMI et al will always be in search of a buck and whore itself out to pharma et al. The only way to build a desperately needed, purely anti-psych movement, is to connect true supporters and never allow the movement to be compromised by people with mainstream agenda’s.
    Deep respect for Twilah Hiari who could have used the financial support but put her truth front and center over and above that which would compromise her core beliefs.

  • Me thinks that that was suspicious.

    Applause for your well reasoned and persuasive arguments from this choir member Dr. Shipko. Organized denial indeed. It aught a be illegal to poison people. Oh wait, it is illegal to poison people. I keep getting up in the morning and forgetting that after I was almost poisoned to death- repeatedly- for no reason.
    You get my vote for director of the APA.

  • As a victim fighting the fraud of psychiatry on the front lines in a court of law where the abuse is rampant, with all due respect, to the dedicated professionals working to correct these massive injustices and crimes against humanity, this movement has by and large failed to protect and support Plaintiffs by testifying at our trials via skype or any means necessary to ensure that Judges ARE fully educated about the facts that do exist so that these lies are NOT perpetuated in courts of law and replayed out in doctors offices, counselling sessions, hospitals and court rooms throughout the continent (and the world) as nauseam.

    I hereby officially invite any party wishing to speak out about the crimes of psychiatry as a witness at my (to date) fraudulent trial, tentatively scheduled for December 5th, 2016 in Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada. Please RSVP with a “Will Say statement” or contact me for further details if you wish to assist in changing the law and stopping the abuse. I can’t do it alone or without you. Please feel free to share this with anyone you think might be willing to speak on the legal record.

    Thank you
    Judy Gayton
    [email protected]
    (403) 526-1975

    In response to ‘someone else’s comment that…
    “All my former doctors espoused belief in psychiatry as an accepted medical specialty…” I wanted to share this legal fact about “belief” that I found helpful when reviewing the legal transcripts of the doctors in my medical malpractice law suit for failing to provide informed consent about the ‘chemical imbalance” fraud before attempting to kill me numerous times which I included under Gross Negligence and Administering Experimental Treatment.

    http://legal.practitioner.com/regulation/standards_9_3_1.htm
    An Introduction To Corporate Regulation and Standardization
    MISREPRESENTATION OF MATERIAL FACTS
    This is the offence most often thought of when the term fraud is used. Misrepresentation cases can be prosecuted criminally or civilly under a variety of statutes or they might be the basis for common law claims. The gist of the offence is the deliberate making of false statements to induce the intended victim to part with money or property.

    Bodily integrity, my health, life, safety, right to informed consent and the right to deny treatment are PROPERTY.

    The specific elements of proof of misrepresentation vary whether the case is prosecuted as a criminal or civil action. The elements normally include:
    Material false statement;
    Knowledge of its falsity;
    Reliance on the false statement by the victim;
    (A loss) Damages suffered
    A deceit or fraud constituting a false statement made wilfully or recklessly, which causes loss to another.

    Not only is a misrepresentation fraudulent if it was known or believed by the maker of the representation to be false when made, but mere non-belief in the truth is also indicative of fraud.

    ANAND states in questioning that he is aware that the ‘chemical imbalance theroy” is NOT proven and they don’t know.
    BOODHOO states in questioning he “believes” in the “chemical imbalance theory”
    My life and health should not, must not be sunject to is “beliefs” which he in fact is obligated to inform me of should they conflict with my rights.

    Thus whenever a person makes a false statement which he does not actually and honestly believe to be true, for purposes of civil liability, that statement is as fraudulent as if he had stated that which he did not know to be true, or knew or believed to be false. The motive of the person making the representation is irrelevant.

    Niether Dr. had the right to diagnose me or drug me based on a theroy they knew, ought to know was false or that they falsely believed to be true that put my life at risk and harmed me.

    The maker of the representation will not, however, be fraudulent if he believed the statement to be true as he perceived it, provided that perception was one that might reasonably be held, though the court later holds that the representation objectively bears another meaning.

    In civil cases, when determining whether a representation was made fraudulently, the standard of proof applicable is the balance of probability (i.e. more likely than not) and not the criminal standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt. However, the amount of evidence required to establish proof may vary according to the gravity of allegation to be proved.

    The more serious the allegation the higher the degree of probability that is required. The question of whether there is any evidence to support an allegation that a representation made was fraudulent is a question of law.

    Subject to this, the question whether a false representation was actually fraudulent is, in every case a question of fact.

    Normally, only material false statements may serve as the basis for a fraud case. Materiality usually refers to statements sufficiently important or relevant to the defendant to influence the defendant’s decision.

    Just because information may be held to be a common, does not mean it is not fraudulent, misinformation or should be a standard practice.

  • Thank you for bringing this important information to our attention Dr. Ruby.
    Just wanted to add these resources into the mix:

    http://www.truthout.org:80/hearing-debates-link-between-psychiatric-drugs-and-veterans-suicide57166
    Dr. Breggin testifying about drug-induced adverse reactions and intoxication (toxic reactions to anti-depressants)  misdiagnosed as mania hence bi-polar in PTSD and Brain injured vets.
    drug-induced adverse reaction is included in the DSMV- but may not be properly utilized misdiagnosis allows for 2 important things to happen;
    the person will most likely be drugged and become a life long consumer of the mental health system
    the client may think they are mentally ill and may miss the fact that the drugs are making them sick,

    http://breggin.com/index2.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=239&Itemid=37
    THE ATTORNEY’S GUIDE TO DEFENDING VETERANS IN CRIMINAL COURT
    OVER-MEDICATION OF PTSD AND TBI PATIENTS
    Dr. Peter Breggin, M.D.