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Pot makes me paranoid but I know other people who seem better on it.
I thought I read everything until this:
Susan Inman Author, After Her Brain Broke: Helping My Daughter Recover Her Sanity
Posted: 08/10/2014 3:13 am EDT
“Psychotic disorders are frequently accompanied by significant and disabling cognitive losses. These cognitive difficulties can persist even when other symptoms (delusions, hallucinations) are well controlled by anti-psychotic medications. Well-researched cognitive problems include difficulties with short term and working memory, focusing, sequencing (essential for planning), judgment and problem solving. ”
Excuse me but anti psychotics CAUSE the cognitive difficulties. Dopamine antagonists do that.
Message to all current and future “parent advocates” and NAMI types.
Spend one month taking anti psychotics and get a clue.
Even a few days should teach you something.
Until then STFU.
Most of these munchkin syndrome by proxy write about my mentally ill kid people are clueless.
Studies show people will believe anything if you say “studies show” before you say it.
Over the past two decades, the use of antidepressants has skyrocketed. One in 10 Americans now takes an antidepressant medication; among women in their 40s and 50s, the figure is one in four. – New York Times
Women are two and a half times more likely than men to take an antidepressant medication — and for many, it’s affecting their sex lives.
According to a Johns Hopkins health alert, 30 to 70 percent of people on an antidepressant will experience sexual problems as a side effect.
The only reason this drug got so popular is because it gave teens something rebellious to do.
I hate smoking pot. It is a crappy feeling not even worthy of the phrase “getting high”.
Adderall, Ritalin and cocaine get you high, marijuana doesn’t.
It is monumental absurdity of epic proportions.
I reading about mental health and schools when it really hit me what what does all this accomplish ???
It didn’t even exist a few decades ago and things were BETTER.
This article :
In the first experiment, they surveyed 45 undergraduate students about their beliefs about the communicability, causal origin, essentialism, and controllability of various mental disorder categories. They then compared …
Does this feed or house anyone ?
Does it do anything useful for mankind ?
What we could do with the billions and billions of dollars in time and energy wasted on psychiatric nonsence.
Psychiatric ensconce costs more than the Apollo missions and we have very very little to show for it except legions of people on drugs and a growing number of “ill” people as a result.
They tried mass drugging children and the schools are still failing and worse.
And more time and effort to study “Perception of Mental Disorders as ‘Contagious’
Abolition of the DSM…
I was reading some stuff about mental disorders in children and really had an like an “epiphany” I swear.
Not anger about the psychiatric drugging of children but just a great big WTF .
What is all this ? So complicated expensive and absolute total useless nonsense. I was just like wait what people have been raising children successfully since the beginning of man without all this.
Page after page of policies and procedures and laws and diagnoses and this and that… What is this, where did it come from and we never had this before and how has it really helped anyone ?
The full understanding that all of it is complete nonsense on a massive scale just hit me instead of my usual reaction to websites like that.
A huge multi billion dollar industry of nonsence.
Even this article is non sense.
All this time and money to study peoples reaction to psychiatric labels, its bizarre . They treat it like it matters when psychiatry should just be brushed off as something stupid , irrelevant made up nonsense.
Message from the psychiatric industry:
Stop the stigma !
Just because WE label people as different YOU should not view them as different.
I am totally confused wait.
WE tell the public people we accuse of mental illness have a brain disease and are different than you without any scientific proof but YOU should not see it that way.
Forget it, I will never understand that stop the stigma message.
Like that new drug “Vyvance” the new kiddy amphetamine that is “effective” for 14 hours.
Someone should do a study to see if anti depressants are causing the divorce rate to go up. Make up sex is important.
How can a pill that ruins sex not ruin marriages too ?
So we know that Eli Lilly is run by clinical psychopaths, that’s a given, but how did they win this lawsuit ?
There is no reporting that I can find that says how they won it. What they said to win it.
Snakes in Suits is a compelling, frightening, and scientifically sound look at exactly how psychopaths work in the corporate environment.
This Eli Lilly Email is also a look at how psychopaths work in the corporate environment.
” I appreciate your help with this and second your suggestion that any additional resources will be a small price to pay for the molecule.”
Read more http://web.archive.org/web/20120122013020/http://www.furiousseasons.com/zyprexa%20documents/ZY100378062.pdf
They knew Zyprexa was harming people .
This video explains it more.
Cymbalta CEO to Retire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYzyJyVdf4c
Inpatient psychiatry treats paranoid patients by keeping them in a locked ‘hospital’ with surveillance cameras all over the place.
Is this “exposure therapy” too ?
The only time I got anything that could be defined as psychosis was after the anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, benzos, mood stabilizers…
So if they can cause psychosis in someone that didn’t have it before how can they really do anything but make the condition chronic ?
Why with all these new treatments the “Psychopharmacology revolution” do we have MORE mentally unwell people than ever before ???
The treatments themselves is the only logical answer.
I read the Article → and its Gobbledygook !
-Language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of abstruse technical terms; nonsense.
Of course those hell holes called hospitals destroy the therapeutic alliance.
They are prisons complete with strip searches, locked doors, threats to coerce awful drugs or assaults to force them… The “therapeutic alliance” , they have got to be kidding me.
You go in with “psychosis” and come out a drugged up zombie with PTSD !
Why all this gobbledygook ? Use real words please.
My “care givers” in that hellhole called a hospital that inspired me to take part in the fight for human rights in psychiatry are just lucky that I live hundreds of miles away and didn’t have to worry about running into me in a public place when I was still really pissed.
It was fun asking them what are you going to do when its just you and me outside when this is all over.
You guys all park in that lot out back right ?
Take these pills or we hold you down and inject you… Goto hell.
I think anti depressants are causing divorces.
Sex is like the glue that holds couples together and the dysfunction and desire reduction caused by SSRIs is preventing alot of ‘make up sex’ after arguments and couples part ways.
I would rather a drug epidemic than a drug free police state.
The drug war basically ruined freedom in America, land of the free home of worlds largest prison system. What a joke. Cities like war zones getting pulled over by cops a nightmare cause of it.
Drug warriors make criminals out of everyone. See video.
Chronic Pain Patient, first visit with Pain Management Doctor
Time for more lawsuits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHolKz6SZDs
I watched the video of the testimony and what gives these foster homes the right to coerce these drugs in the first place if they are not wanted ? Someone should teach these kids how to sue after they turn 18 and get out.
Look what comes up searching “turn 18 sue foster home” on Google
Adderal may make you feel smart but WTF anti psychotics give you a learning disability.
Some people call it the no child left undrugged act.
” Physician may wonder whether they need parole officer training. ”
Opiates were not my thing but God forbid I ever have to get “unaddicted” to anything again.
Call me selfish but I am not willing to treated like a criminal with all that drug testing to save others. You want to drink or take drugs with your medication assisted treatment or at rehab or in outpatient go ahead and do it.
Drug testing makes people want to drugs more (forbidden fruit syndrome) and prevents them from learning to use all the other relapse barriers they teach.
Ban smoking so they live longer so they can torture them for profit longer.
Burn in hell with a smoking ban NJDOC.
And according to the pharmaceutical front groups such as NAMI, only 20% of children who ‘need’ a psychiatric label have been identified.
If they had there way 13% goto 65 % I guess.
Three-month Injectable Antipsychotic… OMG that is just plain EVIL .
What if a person starts having bad reactions besides the intended one, can a surgeon remove the injection residue ?
Its way better than than cocaine cause you don’t need to re up every 20 minutes to keep the high going.
Brain disabling “Abilify” is an atypical anti psychotic but that of course does not stop those drug company crooks from using false advertizing to promote it as an Anti depressant to trick people into asking for it.
The war on drugs is a holocaust that substitutes imprisonment for death.
“Cook County houses an average of 9,000 inmates daily, of which 25 percent to 35 percent suffer from mental illness, according to a spokesman. That number has grown in recent years as the number of mental health facilities fell, jail officials said.”
That’s total bull, that number has grown as the prison industrial complex lobbied politicians for tougher drug laws and “zero tolerance” policies to increase profits for everyone involved.
If anti depressants really did work they would be destructive to humanity because people could be happy without having to do anything.
The Original Star Trek episode “This Side of Paradise” was sort of a cautionary tale about this.
Think about what would happen if people no longer had depressed moods.
Perhaps if they provided medical testing for these problems .
Thank you Capt Obvious !
Hey look we gave the person wicked anhedonia and now they are so unmotivated to get high.
“This discovery paves the way for developing treatments that could blunt the effects of cocaine and amphetamines in patients who are addicted,” stated the press release.
And blunt the effects of anything fun in life !
This approach is old news.
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You are way ahead of the game if you are reading and writing on MIA , they like to prey on those don’t know anything about psychiatry or their rights.
When I say “they” I especially mean operations such as “Universal Health Services” Inc. a Fortune 500 company based in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania that runs nasty behavioral “health” centers and makes billions.
“On Monday, Congressman Murphy delivered the keynote address to employees of Universal Health Services (UHS) during their annual hospital management conference in Philadelphia. Based in Pennsylvania, UHS is an international provider of medical services and is the largest facility-based behavioral health care provider in the nation with 216 locations in 37 states. Murphy was invited to speak about his groundbreaking legislation, the Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act, which will soon be introduced in the House. http://murphy.house.gov/latest-news/enews-from-congressman-murphy141/
This Murphy dude is just a dumb puppet for UHS and the fortune 500 crowd.
This site linked below is dedicated to all the people who were harmed or killed in UHS facilities. They speak for those who have no voice, to protect others from experiencing the pain they endured.
Almost everyone who takes them and doesn’t feel better or gets worse thinks they are just part of an unlucky minority cause “everyone’s chemistry is different”.
Everyone’s chemistry is different… No not really that just the number one stupid excuse when there stupid pills make you sick like they do most people .
Look at your fellow patients, anyone “find the right meds” yet ?
One reason could be is that they LIED and said your serotonin was broken to sell drugs.
I still think exposing the medical model for the fraud that it is is still the most damaging thing that can be done to this wrenched “keep you sick” drugging system.
The allegations against Lewes pediatrician Earl B. Bradley might be the most heinous in U.S. history, but he’s far from the only pediatrician accused of being a pedophile.
In the past 10 years, dozens of doctors have been accused of abusing hundreds of children. Many of those cases took decades to uncover, and experts believe many other pedophiles are operating undetected.
“A bill that would allow children to “consent” to psychiatric or psychological treatment of any kind without the consent — or even the knowledge — of their parents.”
Those “meds” are keeping you sick ! Go ahead, sue me for saying that.
It’s OK to yell fire in a crowded theater when it really IS burning.
I went to AA for a wile and bashed psychiatry and “meds” with the truth and some people suggested I stop so I did it more.
Imagine if doctors could prescribe $1,000 a month housing instead of pills.
2mg 30 tablets $717.30
10mg 30 tablets $717.30
20mg 30 tablets $1,011.76
Ask you doctor about housing over medications.
Facing Sanctions, Law Firm Tries To Block Interviews With Thalidomide Clients
Found that by accident when checking the spelling of Thalidomide for my comment with the Google search box.
In 15 years…
How was your childhood ?
It was horrible, my parents gave my kiddy meth and “Atomoxetine” then after all that crap screwed me up they zombified me with antipsychotics !
This is despicable.
What parents need to do before giving any child psychiatric drugs is adjust for body weight and take it themselves. Do it for a week. How did you sleep ? What did you think of the high then that depleted feeling and anxiety ridden crash ?
Antipsychotics , can you think at all now ?
9.2 percent on atomoxetine… Take that for a week parents.
Common side effects of Strattera include trouble sleeping (insomnia), dry mouth, cough, decreased appetite, upset stomach, nausea or vomiting, dizziness, drowsiness, problems urinating, irritability, constipation, skin rash, itching, increased menstrual cramps, and sexual side effects including impotence, loss of interest in sex, or trouble having an orgasm.
“Atomoxetine” You read those effects and STILL fed it to the child ?
I could write a really angry comment but the only way people can really know how nasty this stuff is is to take it themselves.
The lack of success stories is probably why pharma funded NAMI scrapped its old website and discussion boards.
The old discussion boards were nothing but 1000s of testimonials of nasty reactions to drugs and the futile attempts to find ‘the right meds’ to fix the damage caused by previous years and years of psychiatric drugging with the ‘wrong’ drugs.
Quick delete all this before they figure it out and turn on us !
The child drugging section was heartbreaking.
Not sure, no one seems to notice the almost total lack of success stories.
Much of the public still thinks their ‘mentally ill’ relative who has gotten nothing but worse after exposure to psychiatry is an anomaly.
No, its the norm.
The guards themselves are the ones with the most severe mental problems.
The original idea of “cops and robbers” was brilliant and works in other countries , keep all the psychos into violence and hurting fighting each other so the rest of us can live in peace, but not in police state America with it’s stupid drug war and policy of mass incarceration.
A riot is the language of the unheard.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Recently heard that one on TV.
Psychiatry mistreated me after making me sick for years, my protest after learning the truth about it was to say no more, take your labels and keep you sick brain pills and stick them someplace not very nice.
I recently volunteered at a “dual diagnosis” place and saw people in the beginning and middle of my story, if they are lucky and figure out whats going on like I did.
When will they ever stop the same crap ? People coming in after turning to alcohol or drugs trying deal with this one size fits all life we are expected to live, jobs , bills, housing ripoff slavery stressful robotic existence plus relationships only to be given a brand new NIGHTMARE on top of it , the endless road of psychiatric drugging !
I just lost it when they were starting this one dude on Paxil then maybe Latuda too for his anxiety so that way he doesn’t drink and make a mess of things in his life ? Oh sure, I see a one in 1000 chance of that working and 999 chances of years and years of the “looking for the right meds” torture of side effects and withdrawal reactions being called the “illness” itself.
At least a 9 out of 10 chance he is going to drink on top of the pills or at the withdrawal reactions if he quits the brain disabling neurotoxins called “medicine”.
I told my story and said you better figure this out , get your head straight and stop the dumb sh^t like drinking and accepting the role as a mental patient.
I only drink cause I need the right medication for my anxiety… I heard that several times from people. Good luck with that one.
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So what were these CTO people thinking ? They never noticed that complaint patients usually got worse after exposure to psychiatry but they somehow assumed psychiatry would work on non complaint ones if they forced them ?
The mental health system itself is insane, they keep doing the same thing expecting different results.
One of their favorite excuses when their drugging method fails: Everyone’s chemistry is different. Well not really if you consider everyone exposed to their method gets chronically disabled with drugs.
I would still be miserable, sick and popping a horrible mix of pills and if I listened to them.
I am not an anomaly, I don’t see hardly anyone else getting better after being exposed to psychiatry. Almost always the same crap, the first pills making them worse then those results used as proof they really need more psychiatry and stronger pills in combination.
If I was loosing it and say attacking people, I would rather the padded room over being disabled with a needle full of neurotoxins.
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Ill take “off the grid” over living in some crappy city any day.
I was supporting this protest but I can’t watch this dumb CNN anymore.
I am watching the rally at the Baltimore city hall on CNN. This one teen was complaining there are no recreation programs. No this and no that and we need we need…
Why don’t people in inner cities just move ? In America we do still have the right to travel.
No one is really forced to live anywhere. Everyone in Baltimore could just pack up and leave and move to ‘greener pastures’ if their current location has all kinds of problems.
I know someone is going to come at me calling this an ignorant comment but no its not. If you community really sucks make a plan then pack up your family and move.
This protest was supposed to be about police beating on people and mass incarceration.
All this other divide and conquer stuff is mucking it up and bogging it down.
We have a government class and a people class. That’s about it.
Whom does the police state serve?
Security for who ? The Tyrants of course.
Someone needs to re write the definition of “security” in the dictionary already since its meaning has changed in the last 20 years.
Security- Double speak for more big brother and police state crap.
I think its funny when the government says please protest our violence peacefully.
The problem is “zero tolerance”, policing for revenue, the war on people who like doing drugs and basically turning America into a police state.
I watching the news and now they are turning the problem of abusive government into a racial black and white and a rich and poor problem …
Divide and Conquer:
When faced on the battlefield with a numerically superior enemy, one must to divide his enemy into smaller, more easily dispatched opponents – or even more ideally, divide them against one another, and have them defeat each other.
It’s the most effective way for tyrants to rule over large groups of people who, should they ever learn to cooperate, would easily throw off such tyranny.
And that ‘riot’ looked phony to me anyway. They park older police vehicles and leave them unattended in the path of the marchers on purpose so they get smashed for the TV cameras and all I saw on the news was every channel showing that little trash fire they made in that one intersection.
This whole thing is turning stupid and I am kind of getting sick of it.
It is kind of funny watching them try to figure out how to make a kinder softer police state.
Numbers helped Vs numbers harmed…
There must be 1000’s of horror stories online now by people who went to psychiatry for help and got all screwed up or dead due to the greedy reckless and criminal nature of the psycho pharma industry .
I want to see the psychiatric establishment just admit they harm some people or see them have any meaningful conversation about harms done.
Abilify Kills http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VzMZX4nBz8
There own spokesman made that video after taking the stuff and getting sick.
A study on the therapeutic alliance behind psychiatry’s locked doors.
I also like Mental Health Court, can you say “thought police”.
I am still amazed that drugging little children with amphetamines is not in the trash bin of history yet.
Like always I suggest parents adjust for body weight and take a few doses of the childs drugs themselves so they are not CLUELESS to how they “work”.
Child drugging: Creating a whole generation of drug addicts and mental patients. And they know it.
How can this happen ?
How can these people so evil and indifferent to push their drugs on pregnant women knowing they cause birth defects ?
Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work is a book by industrial psychologist Paul Babiak and psychopathy expert Robert D. Hare.
Could A Dopamine Gene Be the Answer to a Longer Life?
A gene linked to attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and addiction might also help you live to be 100.
A study published in the Journal of Neuroscience found that a version of a gene coding for a receptor for the brain chemical dopamine was 66% more common among people who lived to be 90 or older than among a group of younger people who were otherwise similar.
Read more : http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/11/could-a-dopamine-gene-be-the-answer-to-a-longer-life/
Medical records are becoming alot like criminal records.
The question is how does a person get a ‘medical record expungement’ ?
It’s that “Vyvance” , that crap put out as “new and improved” when the Adderal patent ran out.
The only thing long acting or “extended” about Vyvance is the strung out anxiety can’t eat crash that goes on for hours after a peak that is too high because that “pro drug” delivery system is flawed.
It’s the new Vyvance crash that’s causing these kids to ‘need’ antipsychotics.
What parents need to do is adjust for adult body weight and take the child’s dose themselves because its the ONLY way to understand what these drugs do and how they “work”.
Vyvance “new and improved” , wow the power of marketing.
It’s really hard to believe that child drugging has not been put in the trash bin of history yet.
Up and down on pills all day, day after day as kids. It’s just SO wrong.
Having taken Dexadrine and Adderal before I just knew it would combat the anhedonia caused by the Zyprexa even if it was just replacing it with its own effect.
Anhedonia is no joke, I could remember what it was like to be motivated and to want but I couldn’t feel it.
I remember going to the natural history museum on that wicked Zyprexa being totally unable to feel that sense of wonder like I felt years before looking at the display of the meteorite.
That stuff was just an insidious robbery of everything that makes life life.
I am just lucky I survived and recovered from psychiatry’s chemicals as well as I did.
So much of this is like my story.
I don’t know where I first read the word “pharmacaust” to describe the Psychopharmacuitical holocaust that is the mass drugging by psychiatry but there is no other one word to describe it.
I am told my insomnia is a symptom of depression and of course like many people I believed the big lie that depression was caused by low serotonin and started those first pills, this crap called Serzone.
Then Xanax, and that did work to put me to sleep but that walk in doctor was moving on to work at a hospital and sent me to psychiatrist .
Xanax 1mg to sleep is bad. Here this Clonopin stuff is what you need. And bang 4mg of Clonopin right from the start. Take a pill a few times a day now .
Then I have ADD or HD and that Dexadrine does help me focus, it sure does.
Doc I really cant sleep and this anxiety is getting bad, that’s OK the friendly drug rep from Eli Lilly left some free samples of Zyprexa and don’t worry about those scary medical words you just read on the little paper on the box “its safe”.
And like most people I never saw the inside of a psychiatric hospital till AFTER the pills made me sick and of course all they do in those places is push MORE pills or coerce them when you begin to figure out they are just making you sick or don’t like the effects.
What were you like before psychiatric ‘medication’ ?? That was a question no one EVER asked and for some reason the pills make me forget what it was like before them.
Lost 10 years of my life to the pharmacaust.
How could I be so stupid and take all those nasty pills and how did I let it go on so long ? Nothing in my life before that taught me to not trust doctors. I believed they were all the most honorable people in society healing the sick and it almost killed me.
I remember where read some of this now,
“For example, in the February 2010 issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry (Volume 67  pp. 133-143), Pajonk, Wobrock, Gruber et. al. found that after just three months of a vigorous exercise program, the size of a brain structure called the hippocampus increased an average of 16 percent in “normals!”
It is also true that the part of the brain that controls finger movements is, on average, much larger in concert violinists than in non-musicians. ”
If I had to bet I would say that affluence grows brains and they got this backwards.
How do we know that affluence doesn’t actually grow brains ?
There was also a study that showed that the more tattoos a person has the lower the intelligence.
Music That Makes You Dumb ?
Fans of Lil Wayne‘s music scored the lowest in SAT while listeners of Beethoven‘s work were among the highest scorers. http://www.labnol.org/internet/music-taste-linked-to-intelligence/7489/
I can’t stand hip hop, I know a whole generation loves it but wow is it stupid and repetitive .
A psychosis I never had BEFORE ingesting that horrible stuff !
The ? mark is a typo , sorry.
How can anyone really tell what damage the drugs did ?
I know about rebound psychosis from my experience with the hell from the center of hell psychosis from Zyprexa withdrawal. A psychosis I never had BEFORE ingesting that horrible stuff ?
Was that Dopamine Super-sensitivity ?
If it was dopamine super-sensitivity then why did I have that anhedonia that persisted long after I stopped taking it ? And why was it that Adderal relieved this lingering and horrible anhedonia ? And made me feel ‘normal’ again .
I have read many posts in forums about the lingering anhedonia after exposure to neuroleptics Zyprexa and Invega especially . Anhedonia would suggest according to the dopamine theory a condition of low dopamine or low dopamine sensitivity.
My experience did not include a diagnosis of schizophrenia or presence of TD [tardive dyskinesia].
Bottom line these drugs absolutely do damage and no one knows the mechanisms of it. And if I listened to them and was compliant I would still be effed up on them or dead.
Zyprexa, WTF was I thinking swallowing that and thinking nothing bad was going to happen ?
It helps with anxiety and insomnia and “don’t worry it’s safe” .
“Don’t worry it’s safe” . That doctor should loose his license and be sent to prison for telling me that.
Didn’t they learn anything from the Thalidomide tragedy ?
In organizing their eugenics program the Nazis were inspired by the United States’ programs of forced sterilization… Read more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics
Clear and present danger.
Does anyone have a copy of the New Yorker and does it contain advertisements for psychiatric and other drugs ?
Having ingested this poison myself I can inform you that Zyprexa basically kills you without even without the whole official death part.
Hey makers and marketers of Zyprexa, go back to hell where you came from.
Despite 22 international drug regulatory warnings on psychiatric drugs citing effects of mania, hostility, violence and even homicidal ideation, and like hundreds of high profile murder suicides tied to psychiatric drug use and withdrawal reactions, big media refuses to even mention that this pilot was given these drugs.
Call your doctor if you feel like crashing a plane after taking this medication…
Wasted my time reading the whole stupid article when I knew before I even clicked on it that psychiatry’s drugs and their suicidal side effects would be omitted .
ADHD amphetamines are like the best high ever but damn that crash and anxiety.
Parents need to adjust for body-weight and take a few doses themselves if they ever want to understand why kids behave different on these pills.
Injectable long-acting Zyprexa, it must have been hatched in the same corner of hell as Thalidomide.
I have read alot of negative things about psychiatric drugs in my years doing this and with Zyprexa / Olanzapine people almost always use words hell evil and devil to describe it cause that’s what it is.
Never the drugs ! TV news can’t mention the part drugs played in this case without a risk of loosing some of the billions the pharmaceutical industry spends on those ‘ask your doctor’ pill ads they never ever stop playing.
BLACK BOX WARNING UPDATE:
Call your doctor if you feel like flying a plane into the side of a mountain after taking this medication.
I knew I was drinking too much and it was making my anxiety and insomnia worse and worse so I went to a real hospital voluntarily and was then transported to a UHS psychiatric ‘hospital’. I was sober and in withdrawal. I wanted help.
At the UHS ‘hospital’ I was strip searched and told to squat and cough. When I objected to squat and cough I was told ‘things can get rough around here’ in a threatening manner.
The next day I find I am prescribed a massive amount brain disabling drugs, Haldol, Trileptal , and 800 mg Seroquel. I tell them hold on this is to much 25mg of Seroquel puts me to sleep 800 is too much and dangerous and mixing it up with Haldol , Trileptal (a drug I never took before) is not safe and I know the effects of this massive dose will feel like hell even if I survive it so no thanks. I was not offered detox medication.
You need to take these pills or you will be injected I am told. That’s right I am told they would use violence against me and just rape me with a needle.
My Reaction to this I later find out is charted as ‘agitation’ and ‘rapid speech’ and used as proof I needed more abuse from that doctor and all those soulless psychos.
I continued to refuse that pill overdose out of self preservation and made a few threats of my own by reminding them that some time in the future I will be outside that ‘hospital’ on the street with them on even ground away from there panic buttons and Haldol needles where we could discuss how they are treating me .
I cant really describe with words what its like to be faced with the choice of voluntarily ingesting a pill overdose or being violently drug raped with a needle. I continued to refuse the pill overdose and the drug rape never came but the whole ordeal was a month long and very traumatizing. I then got a bill for this.
In the hospital I decided that if I was drug raped I would find that ‘doctor’ on the street after it was all over and physically hurt him and do the jail time for assault. No one is allowed to treat me that way or needle rape me and get away with it.
Anyway it was this ordeal that lead me to writing on MIA and speaking out about psychiatry.
I am sure most of these kids are being told the standard psychiatric lie claiming that they have chemical imbalances and broken brains and ‘need’ medication (drugs) .
We need to think of a way to reach foster kids directly and tell them the whole truth about psychiatry. If these kids knew the truth they would have a much more difficult time enforcing pill compliance and mass drugging them.
Out of all the pill highs the ADHD amphetamines are best , so much better than those pain killers people get hooked on.
I have been following this story and it included coercion into University of Minnesota’s unethical medical experiments.
The last thing you want to do is call police to “help” a suicidal person unless you want to help them them get killed.
It took police approximately 18 seconds for police to determine Jason Harrison was dangerous enough to to kill, even though his mother had only called for them to take him to a hospital…
A (incomplete) timeline of fatal shootings of mentally-ill individuals by U.S. cops in 2014:
January 5, 2014: A North Carolina family calls 911 for help when their schizophrenic son, Keith Vidal, begins acting out. The 90-pound 18-year-old winds up dead.
January 25, 2014: Lodi, California, police officers receive a call from a woman who says her brother—a veteran with PTSD—is “going crazy.” Less than twenty minutes later, her brother winds up dead.
March 16, 2014: Albuquerque officers fatally shoot James Boyd, a mentally-ill homeless man they’re trying to prevent from camping in the foothills.
April 2, 2014: Matthew Pollow, a 28-year-old with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, is fatally shot by cops outside his mother’s apartment building in Boca Raton, Florida. In a statement, investigators say Polow charged a deputy with a screwdriver before being shot.
April 7, 2014: Tinoris Williams, a mentally-ill 31-year-old in Palm Beach, is shot in the head after struggling with an officer who mistakes him for a burglary suspect.
April 13, 2014: A Santa Clara, California, woman calls 911 to say she’s suicidal. Police open fire when she answers the door holding a baseball bat, fatally wounding the 53-year-old.
April 30, 2014: Milwaukee police fatally shoot Dontre D. Hamilton, 31, a schizophrenic who is laying face-down in the park when police arrive.
June 6, 2014: A Norfolk, Virginia, family call 911 for help with their schizophrenic relative, 35-year-old David Latham. Latham winds up dead.
June 14, 2014: A Dallas mother calls the cops for help taking her schizophrenic son, 39-year-old Jason Harrison, to the hospital. Harrison winds up dead.
August 11, 2014: Los Angeles cops fatally shoot Ezell Ford, an unarmed 25-year-old suffering from unspecified mental issues. The circumstances surrounding the shooting are still unclear.
Suffolk police were summoned to the Maryhaven Center for Hope group home in Middle Island at 8:18 p.m. after the staff was unable to bring Simmons under control, Fitzpatrick said.
Simmons, had been causing a disturbance at the facility for nearly 30 to 40 minutes before staff called 911, Fitzpatrick said.
By the time officers arrived, Simmons — a resident at the home for the past six years — had calmed down and was sitting on a couch in the living room, Fitzpatrick said.
Officers told Simmons they were placing him in handcuffs and taking him to a psychiatric emergency facility and that is when Simmons became violent and fought the officers, Fitzpatrick said.
The officers killed Simmons with their Tazer high voltage stun guns.
Also check out http://www.killedbypolice.net
RE: Because the mass media give virtually no exposure to psychiatry’s critics…
I am not discouraged, a person only needs to hear or read the truth about psychiatry and understand it once and they know it forever and billions of dollars in advertizements and PR can never undo it.
The number of people who know the truth just grows and grows…
May 16th, 2015
I plan to go.
If fluoride is so cheap it can be added to the drinking water why not just give it away to people that WANT it ?
The best thing to do its make a psychiatric living will before you get old.
Why spend the last years of your life in akathisia or Tardive Dyskinesia hell ?
Akathisia – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svoDpICEnsg
Tardive Dyskinesia- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_NKRS8lLWA
RE: “people like you, who want to pass judgement”
I took the drugs for 7 years. I know MORE than you about this subject.
Adjust for body weight and take your child’s drug dose yourself and get back to me.
There is no other way to understand it.
Hey parents !!
Adjust for body weight and try the drugs on yourself before making comments so you know what you are talking about.
Why do I donate my time warning people about psychiatric fraud and the drugs ?
Adjust for body weight and take your child’s dose of ADHD drugs yourself for a few days.
You will have your answer.
Sure to outside observers the person high and drug impaired may look “better” but if you have never taken ADHD drugs and felt their effects on your own mind and body you have nothing useful to add to this conversation.
RE: Why does a STIMULANT that would send others into hyper speed mode actually CALM my son down???
Have you ever seen these stimulants send others into hyper speed mode ?
My guess is you have not. That is a myth , these drugs have the exact same effects on everyone. Another myth is people who “have” ADHD don’t get high from stimulants.
The last myth “not addictive if taken as directed”
That is ASS BACKWARDS, after addiction sets in you stop taking as directed !!
The reason these drugs calm people down is the high they produce is calming. I should know I took these things every day for 7 years.
I think every parent should adjust for body weight and take there child’s ADHD drug dose themselves for a few days to see what life is like going from Amphetamine high to a crashing low every single day like these kids do.
It really is the only way to understand whats going on.
Long acting high powered Amphetamines in children.
A very large percentage of young people checking into substance abuse treatment centers were put on these ADHD drugs as kids. The addiction to getting high and the habit of using drugs started with Ritalin and amphetamines.
Someone should do an official study of this.
They did ECT to my ‘girlfriend’ in the hospital the very first time I was subjected to inpatient after the pills made me sick.
She was just rebellious constantly saying she hates this effing hospital… and was adamant about going to some friend from schools party and wanting out.
The did that ECT crap and she came back all zombie like and had this “perma smile” stuck on her face at the same time. After that she didn’t hang out with us.
Psychiatry can be a real atrocity , that’s why they keep the doors locked.
117 views , had a dyslexia moment .
“lacks robust mechanisms to ensure its proper enforcement.”
So far I have informed 177 people. 177 views anyway maybe some knew.
I don’t think hospitals will be posting signs “new law says you have right to access fresh air” anytime soon.
A disease, no. An allergy really is the best way of looking at it.
You goto the meeting and make friends with the same goal of quitting and that get what your going through.
You learn how to be around people again without being intoxicated.
The treatment is not the twelve steps it’s mostly being around other people and having someplace to go instead of a bar or just drinking or getting high if you feel like crap.
There is a small percentage of AA nut case that go overboard, get all fanatical and piss everyone off, they are the ones that actually created all these AA critics and haters.
When I read the whole article I will comment further.
I didn’t know there anyone left who hasn’t played tie up in the bedroom with their partner.
They sell BDSM stuff in the mall now.
Why does psychiatry always blame others for it’s own faults ?
They created the anti psychiatry movement with there own actions.
Psychiatric drugs made me sick then when I went to the hospital they abused me.
I am anti psychiatry.
This is a good one: Disease Mongering Engine – Natural News
Ya, the resentments against my family for believing in psychiatry were hard to let go until I got better without it, despite of it and showed them. I believed in it too at first, my serotonin was low and those other lies.
I remember the people in the hospital on the phones begging for help to get out of that hell hole only to be told by family they needed to stay in the hell hole to get “help”.
One guy in particular was not doing well with all the random violence going on and just pleading “get me out of here” to his family please please please I can’t stay here please please … NO, you have to stay and get “help”, they believed in psychiatry. Never forget that one it was awful.
UHS hell hole, you come in with what ever you come in with and leave with PTSD.
More on how the profiteers in the US “justice” system drive people to suicide from Human Rights Watch.
“Many are guilty only of minor traffic violations like driving without proof of insurance or seatbelt violations. While these offenses often carry no real threat of jail time in and of themselves, a probationer who fails to keep up with payments on their fines, court costs, and company fees can be locked up.”
The Police states of America have about four percent of the world’s population but has over one quarter (25%) of world’s prison population. An American citizen has a six times greater chance of being incarcerated than those in most other countries.
RE “according to the Netherland’s & Australian researchers pot strains with at least 15% THC create addictive qualities on par with heroin & cocaine”
I have been around the addictions field for a long time and that is absurd, it’s drug war propaganda to boost funding.
” We currently live in a world controlled by psychopaths. ”
You are 100% correct.
Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work is a book by industrial psychologist Paul Babiak and psychopathy expert Robert D. Hare.
Read the entire book here : http://www.mtpinnacle.com/pdfs/psycophaths-at-work.pdf
The side effects of the drug war are much worse than that of Marijuana.
“The issue here is the extent to which people with a mental illness have been conditioned into accepting the disabling effects of psychotropic medications without protest”
It goes like this, “take these pills or we will assault you with a needle.” That threat is usually combined with a threat of lockup in the state hospital.
Why did they leave that part out of the article ?
Ryan is a resident of Australia who survived 14-months of an incredible type of involuntary psychiatric drugging: Forced home drugging.
Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkdaUWeausg
This is way to complicated for me.
We need to just keep throwing our stones of truth at the beast called Institutional Psychiatry until it respects human rights . What ever your angle of attack, it doesn’t much matter just do what your good at.
They may have billions but this is an information war and the truth is on our side.
“Global Mental Health”
China’s former drug and food safety watchdog chief was executed after being found guilty of corruption and dereliction of duty, Xinhua news agency said.
Zheng was sentenced to death in May for taking bribes to approve an antibiotic blamed for at least 10 deaths and other substandard medicines. Cao was given a death sentence last month with a two-year reprieve for accepting bribes and dereliction of duty.
China has been around for like 5000 years, no way are they going to let these western snake oil salesmen come in and poison their children for ADHD or the slimiest fraud ever “child bipolar” and the toxic hell called treatment that goes with that.
Anti-psychotics drugs alone net the pharmaceutical industry at least $14.6bn dollars a year. Psycho-pharmaceuticals are the most profitable sector of the industry, which makes it one of the most profitable business sectors in the world. Americans are less than 5% of the world’s population, yet they consume 66% of the world’s psychological medications. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/15/psychology-healthcare
They act like the world ‘needs’ this nonsense ! It’s all about profit and expanding the “pharmacaust” worldwide.
The story of The Tripods is a variation on post-apocalyptic literature, wherein humanity has been enslaved by “Tripods”: gigantic three-legged walking machines, piloted by unseen alien entities (later identified as “Masters”). Human society is largely pastoral, with few habitations larger than villages, and what little industry exists is conducted under the watchful presence of the Tripods. Lifestyle is reminiscent of the Middle Ages, but small artefacts from the Modern Age are still used, such as watches.
Humans are controlled from the age of 14 by implants called “Caps”, which suppress curiosity and creativity. Some people, whose minds are broken by the Caps, become vagrants. According to The City of Gold and Lead, Masters begin to believe that humans should be capped at an earlier age “because some humans, in the year or two before they are Capped, become rebellious and act against the masters.”; but this cannot be done because Capping must wait until the braincase has stopped growing.
“because I know there will never be any justice”
“If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?”
The Techniques and Ethics of Revenge by The Last Viking
Now they shoot you dead like a dog for throwing rocks during a mental meltdown.
This guy I am sure was driven mad partially from prior involvement with the “justice” system.
Pasco Police Shoot and kill a man for throwing rocks!
This happened last week !
“The subject also came up around the revenue stream generated by the police department in Ferguson. ”
How municipalities in St. Louis County, Mo., profit from poverty. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/09/03/how-st-louis-county-missouri-profits-from-poverty/
Check it out.
Ferguson Riot Police Open Fire Into Peaceful Protest
The protests this summer should be interesting. The next Eric Garner is coming because it is absolutely impossible to stalk and abuse the public for revenue at the current rate without killing and abusing people in the process. Statistics prove that.
“It’s like asking a rape victim how their rapist might make the experience of being raped better for them”
Well put !
People who have never stared down the barrel of a loaded needle behind a locked door with no place to run just don’t get it.
I was given the choice of taking this overdose of pills I KNEW was extremely dangerous to my health and life or be given ” injectable form “.
I continued to refuse the dangerous handful of pills out of self preservation not simply defiance and luckily for everyone involved I was not raped with a needle as they had threatened.
It was so horrible what they did to me , I had decided if they did inject me by force (rape) I was going to sneak up on them outside the hospital and break there knee caps with a heavy pipe or crow bar when it was all over and that the jail time would be worth it.
All I needed was to get back on my feet after that alcohol binge but instead I got the weeks long nightmare UHS dishes out to keep its profits at like a billion (thousand million) dollars a year.
They lied all over my medical records (suicidal). I don’t do suicidal. “Speech is rapid”, You just threatened me with a needle you POS, should I speak really really slow now ?
I donate my time to this website and human rights in mental health for a reason. Psychiatry in its current form is a crime against humanity.
Nearly Half Of Black Males, 40 Percent Of White Males Are Arrested By Age 23: Study http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/06/half-of-blacks-arrested-23_n_4549620.html
Try getting caught up in the American for profit justice system and not get a few suicidal thoughts.
“Harriet Cleveland’s troubles began with traffic tickets. When she couldn’t pay her fines, she was sentenced to two years’ probation with Judicial Correction Services, which added its own fees. Her debts soon mounted…
But by that summer her total court costs and fines had soared from hundreds of dollars incurred by the initial tickets to $4,713, including more than a thousand dollars in private-probation fees…
Read more of the above American police state nightmare: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/06/23/get-out-of-jail-inc
Next Private probation: A judicially sanctioned extortion racket
Retired Police Officer: “Revenue Generating” Came First
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/retired-police-officer-revenue-generating/
I don’t know when fighting crime turned into stalking the public for revenue but that’s what it’s all about these days.
All I know is psychiatric drugs disabled me and if I listened to them I would still be drugged into zombie anhedonia .
Remember this http://www.madinamerica.com/2014/06/five-year-study-re-affirms-housing-stabilizes-people/
I know many people whose family and insurance companies spent way more than the cost of a small house on hospitals and rehabs .
Many prescriptions cost the same as a car payment.
By skipping all the nonsense and nonsence programs and using money already spent on them we could actually help people.
If overweight adults want to take speed who cares ? I don’t .
The Amphetamine high is epic.
But check this out,
With patent extension up for grabs, Shire agrees to test Vyvanse in preschoolers.
Vyvance To Be Tested On Four-Year-Olds | The Fix
Check it out, the 4 year old sits still when he is high this stuff and we can make even more money selling pills for the side effects and the insomnia it causes !
“The drug is the first FDA-approved medication to treat this condition,” stated an FDA press release.
No its not.
Vyvanse is just the new gimmick in order for Shire to be able to keep a steady cash flow cause their patent on Adderal expired in 2009.
Adderal was originally formulated as a diet pill, its the 1970’s diet aid, known as Orbitrol.
The Stanford prison experiment (SPE) was a study of the psychological effects of becoming a prisoner or prison guard.
“Undermine the therapeutic relationship” Just a little right.
No mention of the intake forced strip search “hospitals” do in this article.
No mention of the injection threats to coerce drugs like Haldol.
No mention of them coming to your room to make threats to wake you up for blood pressure check at 6 AM.
A fun part is getting a bill for this when it’s all over. I walked in voluntary to the ER after making myself sick drowning my sorrows with Vodka for a week looking for detoxification. My mistake. I was sober but really hurting. I got transported to a Universal Health services psychiatric facility where I lived the inpatient nightmare. Lockup, strip search then threats and coercion.
This site is dedicated to all the people who were harmed or killed in UHS facilities. They speak for those who have no voice, to protect others from experiencing the pain they endured.
In a letter to the editor, the executive director for the National Alliance on Mental Illness writes that too many people like Hymes do not receive truly “evidence-based care.” …
Who cares what NAMI writes ?
NAMI is a front for the pharma industry, see http://namiexposed.com/
NAMI’s leading donor is Eli Lilly and Company, maker of Prozac, [and Zyprexa] which gave $2.87 million during that period. In 1999 alone, Lilly will have delivered $1.1 million in quarterly installments, with the lion’s share going to help fund NAMI’s “Campaign to End Discrimination” against the mentally ill.
In the case of Lilly, at least, “funding” takes more than one form. Jerry Radke, a Lilly executive, is “on loan” to NAMI, working out of the organization’s headquarters. Flynn explains the cozy-seeming arrangement by saying, “[Lilly] pays his salary, but he does not report to them, and he is not involved in meetings we have with [them].” She characterizes Radke’s role at NAMI as “strategic planning.”
A “grassroots” organization !
The actions by Eli Lilly were a crime against humanity.
And also mass murder by poisoning.
No one went to prison.
Click below to see the Eli Lilly internal E-mail . They knew they were pushing poison.
The DSM-5 is the Atheist’s Moral Code, the psychiatrist’s Bible
Psychiatry creates addicts by putting little children on amphetamines and Ritalin .
Just goto any drug and alcohol treatment center in the US and ask the clients if they were medicated as kids. Most of the time with the younger ones in there 20s its a majority.
That front group for the pharmaceutical industry “NAMI” was pushing Risperdal on kids.
Then this guy “Biederman” was the recipient of the 1998 NAMI Exemplary Psychiatrist award.
Psychiatrist Joseph Biederman had been under a U.S. Senate investigation in 2008 for earning at least $1.6 million in consulting fees from drug makers yet had failed to report all but about $200,000 of this income to Harvard university officials.
Its such a tangled web. It just sucks for Risperdal victims.
NAMI testified in favor of this bill, crafted and advanced by Doug and Nancy Reuters, parents of Joel Reuters…
NAMI takes millions from the pharmaceutical industry.
See more http://namiexposed.com/
“Like the Reuters, Gretchen Allen said she tried and failed to get help for her son, Kirk. He was taken to an emergency room a half-dozen times but “told to go home, rest and heal,” she said. Without getting proper treatment, Kirk took his own life, she said.”
“Without getting proper treatment”
Just exactly WHAT IS proper treatment ??? Getting drugged into zombie oblivion ?
If there damb “help” actually was help people would volunteer for it but instead they often abuse the shit out of people so even if they wanted help the last place they would go would be one of psychiatry’s hell hole hospitals
The mentally ill are in prison in high numbers also because the USA is the worlds largest police state.
In October 2013, the incarceration rate of the United States of America was the highest in the world, at 716 per 100,000 of the national population. While the United States represents about 5 percent of the world’s population, it houses around 25 percent of the world’s prisoners.
The U.S. incarcerates 716 people for every 100,000 residents, more than any other country. In fact, our rate of incarceration is more than five times higher than most of the countries in the world. Although our level of crime is comparable to those of other stable, internally secure, industrialized nations, the United States has an incarceration rate far higher than any other country.
“The private contracting of prisoners for work fosters incentives to lock people up. Prisons depend on this income. Corporate stockholders who make money off prisoners’ work lobby for longer sentences, in order to expand their workforce.
The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street.
Research on mental illness in prisons and jails needs to look at the fact that never before in human history has any nation locked up so many of its citizens the way the USA does.
I said “we” , I can’t understand sheep thinking. hate when people do the we and you thing, sorry.
I think the experiment was right on the mark.
Most people are sheep. We as activists and anti authoritarians by nature can’t understand sheep thinking.
Remember this ?
Why Anti-Authoritarians are Diagnosed as Mentally Ill
RE: Do we need something else?
Jails and prisons the video record when they do violent stuff like cell extractions.
The same methods of recording should be used when staff uses force against a ‘patient’ at a ‘hospital’ instead of some sloppy notes and clinical words used now if they even write it down at all.
I got involved after being threatened with forced injection ‘needle rape’ at a UHS facility. and there was the assault of my ‘girlfriend’ in the place by staff for ‘defiance’.
They seem to back off when you remind them that you may see them outside after your stay.
It was a nightmare that place, insult to injury salt on a wound. A money machine from hell that is UHS.
Costa also discussed the violence that occurs in psychiatric facilities. “Is ‘more training’ the best response? Why is this the most often sought narrative and remedy for intervention?
Maybe because pharma front groups do the ‘training’ ?
That has to be it.
Of course many more people are depressed .
The Game Is Rigged: Why Americans Keep Losing to the Police State
18 Signs That Life In U.S. Public Schools Is Now Essentially Equivalent To Life In U.S. Prisons
Life is more stressful now. Things have changed.
Check out the blind leading the blind over at MDJunction’s “Parents of Bipolar Children”
This link is the ticket to understanding the American child bipolar epidemic. http://www.mdjunction.com/parents-of-bipolar-children
1000’s of horror stories of child drugging and Iatrogenesis.
There is a ton of Münchausen syndrome by proxy in there too.
Over and over new people come in and ask advice from the old ones that never did anything but screw up their own kids with psychiatry.
Keep chipping away at them. Keep spreading the truth.
This is the way the psychiatry ends
This is the way the psychiatry ends
This is the way the psychiatry ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
Hey Doctor Breggin Check out this one http://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/james-gilbert-jr-anouther-ssri-murder/
Dude with a head full of psychiatric drugs murders father.
ABC 20/20 drugging foster children Part 1 of 3
Part 1: Children reveal painful memories of neglect, heavy duty drug treatments.
Contrary to psychiatric opinion, children are not “experimental animals.” They are human beings who have every right to expect protection, care, love and the chance to reach their full potential in life. A chance denied them by psychiatry’s labels and chemical straitjackets.
A Place for Paedophiles is a British documentary that was televised on 21 April 2009. Produced and presented by Louis Theroux, the documentary ran for 60 minutes, and took place at Coalinga State Hospital, a hospital for paedophiles. Theroux was the first film-maker to be allowed to film and interview the inmates at the hospital. -From Wikipedia
Most people just give away their privacy rights.
What’s legally required is far different from what has become commonplace.
Here is a fun one, Google “refuse to provide social security number doctor’s office” link below
I rarely give a website my govt issued name , correct birthday or an “address” (Why is it anyone’s business where I sleep, hang out and store my things? )
I don’t even remember what web Ads look like because I downloaded Ad Block plus.
Plus you need to take a higher dose of extended release medications for them to work making withdrawal more difficult.
People with real pain problems hate addicts.
Look at the comments on this page below from people with pain who need meds but have a real hard time because of the war on addicts.
“Nearly half the patients who took opiate painkillers for more than 30 days during the first year of the study continued to use them for three years or longer. Almost half of chronic opioid users took only short-acting meds instead of longer-acting drugs, increasing their risk for addiction.”
Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit !
The longer acting drugs increase addiction risk more because withdrawal reactions are worse when the body is used to a steady state level from XR versions.
Who said “long acting” is less addictive ? The pharma companies who get a new patent when they make a drug extended release ? Show me PROOF extended release is less addictive. Love to see it.
Xanax XR was a nightmare !
Withdrawal reactions cause addiction NOT the feeling of being high !!! Other drugs like cocaine and amphetamine create a much better high than pain pills/Benzos but are easier to come off because the withdrawal is so much easier.
Ask your doctor why the media does this…
“While the grand party in direct-to-consumer (DTC) advertising may have peaked about 5 years ago, it remains an important method of marketing drugs. The industry last year spent $2.4 billion on television ads, according to Nielsen. That is a 23% drop from the $3.1 billion spent in 2007.”
$ 2,400,000,000.00 , wow that is alot of cash !
“The opposite experience—being a new, reborn you in the same old world—is no less disorienting, in my opinion. The world is still itself but you, at your core, are different, and it’s hard to re-synchronize the two realities…
Because I have seen and survived the blackest hell…”
That’s coming back from drugs or “getting sober” … Its effed up.
Ya , those chemicals F__ed me up but I still have an activist heart and soul being part of the anti psychiatry movement and just the anti way I am. That was and is.
Those drugs and the drugged years screwed with reality and feelings about things anxiety desperation a hell beyond description but my soul was always separate from all that. Affected but in the end unaffected.
Those hell years just are part of my travels, I bought the wrong ticked but think about the people who have never seen that place, never visited hell , what do you think of them ?
It sucks a set back but it is a reborn. Been there doing that, I know.
Not done yet . to fast on the post button, my ADHD ‘impulsivity’ no doubt. One more question.
Aren’t parents curious how these drugs make kids feel ?
The only way to really know is to try it yourself. Don’t forget body weight adjustments.
If parents only new how well a few Adderals help with those hangovers from excessive holiday eggnog mixed southern comfort there might not be any left for the kids. ADHD pills are the best thing ever for a hangover.
New years resolution to loose weight ?
Most parents don’t know Adderall was originally formulated to be a diet pill, its the 1970′s diet aid, known as Orbitrol. Then it was repackaged and sold as Adderall around the time when ADHD was invented in 1987.
I believe if ALL parents adjusted for body weight and took there child’s dose themselves just once half this child drugging non-sence would be over just like that.
Merry Christmas and have a speedy new year.
“They Take 1 of Ours, Let’s Take 2 of Theirs” New York Man Executes Two Cops in Revenge Attack
Above was the headline from the NY post http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/1221front.jpg?w=780
What if someone shot me for working in mental health just because some mental health workers are abusive ? It’s just not right.
I can’t believe it has come to this. Maybe now they will do something about police brutalizing and killing people and getting away with it.
Gun Ban for Mentally Ill Struck Down as Too Broad
Posted on December 18, 2014
Texas SWAT team brutalizes innocent man in no-knock wellness check, concocts charges
What will US Supreme Court do about that ?
Who want’s to be in a psychiatric locked building after an earthquake ?
I never tried Ketamine, cat tranquilizer no thanks, but having listened to hundreds of addicts in recovery talk about drugs I have never heard one say it’s much of a good time. The same can be said about opiates and benzos. No one ever has a good time story about that stuff. Only misery.
But bring up the subject of LSD or Mushrooms with anyone who has tried that and get ready for a long animated 25 minute story of the positive experience they had. I don’t think Ketamine is anything like Acid and mushrooms.
I just post that because I think it’s a bad idea to have criticisms of psychiatry sounding anything like support the failed US drug war that has left our country looking like a police state.
I think the biggest problem with drugs in the United States is the war on drugs itself.
Prison Industrial Complex in America https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS9Vxt3yQdk
NAMI on Chemical Imbalance Belief https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa7iQQpOMI
Look at this comment from the youtube video
When a sheeple says “but not all cops are bad” then ask them how often cops get arrested by other cops for doing this shit? It NEVER happens and this is why ALL COPS ARE BAD!
Tasering a 76 year old man, the police state in America doesn’t care about your life at all, what if that man had a pacemaker or heart condition ?
He would be dead, then an “investigation” then as usual the police state gets away with murder. Same story over and over again.
They don’t even need the ‘dangerous mental patient’ excuse to kill you anymore.
Re: But a lawyer for the woman “said the law must draw distinctions between a mentally ill person who poses a threat to the public — like ‘a person running down the street with a knife’ — and someone confronted by officers while alone in her room, with backup police on their way.”
According to police, 50-year-old Michelle Cusseaux was threatening mental health workers, saying she would show up at the mental health facility where she was supposed to be receiving “treatment” and shoot the workers.
“Treatment” on MIA we know exactly what that means and if they were calling and harassing this woman I can see where someone might threaten to shoot workers. The dead can’t speak but I think she made those threats in self defense, “leave me alone or ill shoot you”.
Police say Cusseaux refused to comply with their requests to step outside through a locked security screen door and shut the interior door.
They then picked the locked on the security door and did a home invasion. That’s when police say Cusseaux flung the interior door open and stood their with a hammer in her hand. After repeated commands to drop the hammer police say she lunged toward the officers.
One shot was fired, and Cusseaux died. No officers were hurt.
Basically they broke into this woman’s home and killed her for defending herself .
When did “protect and serve” turn into hunt down and kill ? The police state is all about protecting its revenue stream, not us.
December 16, 2014 Elderly man bodyslammed, tased by police over vehicle inspection sticker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt4lu7RiN4E
Wake up America.
RE :We are there to generate money for the system and they have a vested interest in keeping us coming back for their “product.”
You have that sooo right.
Universal Health Services, (UHS, Inc.) in the news. UHS, Inc. is frequently in the news for substandard care, abuse, and fraud.
This site is dedicated to all the people who were harmed or killed in UHS facilities . They speak for those who have no voice, to protect others from experiencing the pain they endured. http://watchinguhs.wordpress.com/
For the entire 2012 fiscal year, UHS posted a FAT bottom line. Profit was up 11.4 percent to $443.4 million. Revenue increased 3 percent to more than $6.96 billion, and UHS’ adjusted EBITDA stood at $1.23 billion. As of Dec. 31, UHS also has more than $1.4 billion in assets.
Police charged into a darkened field trying to arrest teenagers for consuming alcohol without government permission, and killed a young WHITE woman in the process.
Intent on imprisoning the WHITE girl for her beverage consumption, Deputy Brockman confronted Ms. Ramsey and tried to position himself in the forward trajectory of the vehicle.
The vehicle slid out of view just as the deputy closed in on the driver’s window; Ms. Ramsey had not stopped her vehicle. There is some dispute about events that followed, but the confrontation ended when Deputy Brockman fired four shots through the windshield, fatally striking the WHITE teen.
No indictment for deputy who killed WHITE Samantha Ramsey
This was completely ignored by the media.
When faced on the battlefield with a numerically superior enemy, one must attempt to divide his enemy into smaller, more easily dispatched opponents – or even more ideally, divide them against one another, and have them defeat each other without ever drawing your sword.
The architects of the American Police State know this. Its friends in the media do a good job of keeping everything a ‘racial’ problem.
Never in human history has there been a more effective way for tyrants to rule over large groups of people who, should they ever learn to cooperate, would easily throw off such tyranny.
Re: I didn’t even have a psychotic episode or any serious mental health problems, and I was prescribed Zyprexa. 🙁
I was given Zyprexa for a complaint of insomnia and that SOB doctor said to me “don’t worry its safe” after I read the small print scary medical words on the package insert.
All these quacks should be put on trial for crimes against humanity.
I survived Zyprexa , it is the most evil sh^t ever. First it robbed my ability to feel any pleasure from life but then 100 times worse the withdrawal reactions , insomnia from hell , nausea vomiting and a scary psychosis I never had BEFORE taking it. Of course when I complained of these withdrawal reactions they were used to confirm I was “sick” and needed even more psychiatric lobotomy pills.
I will never forget going to the ER sick with Zyprexa withdrawal and the nurse telling me the doctor could write more Zyprexa if “we asked him nicely”.
Can I please have more of the stuff that made me violently ill and landed me in the emergency room ? Gee thanks.
Look at what those soulless psychos at Eli Lilly did to sell the stuff.
Google search results for “the Zyprexa scandal” http://www.google.com/search?q=+the+zyprexa+scandal
Olanzapine is Zyprexa.
Techs writing stuff down, not wiring , sorry.
The study found that about 40% of patients who’d been diagnosed with having psychotic experiences for the first time in their lives were being too heavily medicated right away.
I saw what goes on in these hospitals. I think the worst is endured by people suffering paranoia getting stuck in the hospital with big ugly surveillance cameras in every room to be followed around by the techs with clip boards looking at them and wiring stuff down. No one ever explains they are just doing busy work charting patient locations on paper that’s never looked at by anyone.
That same logic of those hospitals would treat arachnophobia by locking people in a room full of spiders.
The reason I think people are being too heavily medicated right away is because the trauma of being a prisoner in one of psychiatry’s hell-holes is labelled ‘symptoms of the illness’ and then the “patient” is drugged into zombie oblivion, a condition they call ‘better’.
Dr. Drew Cashes In
” Thanks to the Justice Department, we now know of a Dr. Drew payday large enough to trigger a reverie or two. As part of its monstrous $3 billion settlement with the pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), the DOJ unsealed documents showing that the dear doctor had taken in at least $275,000 for “services for Wellbutrin.”
Precisely how can one service an antidepressant like Wellbutrin? According to the government’s complaint, Dr. Drew was hired to “deliver messages about [Wellbutrin SR] in settings where it did not appear that Dr. Pinsky was speaking for GSK.” After Pinsky suggested that Wellbutrin might be responsible for increasing a woman’s orgasm rate—to as many as 60 orgasms in a good night—an internal GSK memo noted approvingly that Dr. Drew had “communicated key campaign messages” about Wellbutrin to the public. ”
Source of this http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2012/07/dr_drew_pinsky_cashed_in_on_drug_company_money_is_your_doctor_on_the_take_.html
Once it climbs to 51% being diagnosed mentally ill will mean your normal.
Teens Prescribed Anti-Anxiety or Sleep Drugs ….
Why ? To counter act the effects of the ADHD drugs , I think so.
The crash from and being on ADHD drugs every day for years during youth creates that edge that makes self medicating with alcohol and opiates a ‘natural’ response. Just like people who use cocaine do.
Then of course add what the article above points out.
The majority of young adults checking into drug and alcohol treatment today were psych med kids.
Don’t believe me ? Go to an AA/NA meeting where the treatment center vans show up with clients and ask around… It’s easy, bring up the subject of ADHD and those drugs… anyone take those as that as a kid? Did they say you were “bipolar too” ? It won’t take you long to see what’s going on.
Child psychiatry produces adult drug addicts. It’s so obvious.
Can the govt ever come up with a solution for any “problem” that doesn’t include more taxes and more freedom removal ?
People are already protesting in the streets over the American police state.
Washington (CNN) — In 2010, the New York State Legislature passed a law raising taxes on cigarettes purchased in New York City to $5.85 per pack of 20 cigarettes.
Fast-forward four years: A U.S. senator is blaming the politician that created that law for the chokehold death of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man, by a white police officer in New York City in July 2014.
“I do blame the politician,” Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, explained on MSNBC’s “Hardball.” “We put our police in a dangerous situation with bad laws.”
The false progression of Louis Wain http://mindhacks.com/2007/09/26/the-false-progression-of-louis-wain/
The word RAPE better describes my experience with coercive psychiatry.
Rape- having something you don’t want put in your body.
Louis Wain (5 August 1860 – 4 July 1939) was an English artist best known for his drawings, which consistently featured anthropomorphised large-eyed cats and kittens. In his later years he may have suffered from schizophrenia (although this claim is disputed), which, according to some psychiatrists, can be seen in his works. -Wikipedia
Has Your Health Professional Received Drug Company Money?
Use this tool to search for payments http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/
Is Darren Wilson of Ferguson the shooter of Mike Brown a diagnosable sociopath ?
I put the topic in the forum http://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/darren-wilson-of-ferguson-a-diagnosable-sociopath/
RE : This is a human rights movement. It is a movement toward recognizing all those simple truths listed above (and so many others) for all people.
I agree. Human rights. Psychiatry is an atrocity.
Police charged into a darkened field trying to arrest teenagers for consuming alcohol without government permission, and killed a young woman in the process.
How municipalities in St. Louis County, Mo., profit from poverty
Get Out of Jail, Inc.
Harriet Cleveland’s troubles began with traffic tickets. When she couldn’t pay her fines, she was sentenced to two years’ probation with Judicial Correction Services, which added its own fees. Her debts soon mounted.
And get much worse.
These pages explain what the problem REALLY is. The police state is a for profit business.
Ferguson Feeds Off the Poor: Three Warrants a Year Per Household
How does a stop for jaywalking turn into a homicide and how does that turn into an American town essentially coming under military control with snipers, tear gas, and a no-fly zone? We don’t yet know exactly what happened between the two individuals on the day in question but events like this don’t happen without a deeper context. – See more at: http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/08/ferguson-and-the-debtors-prison.html
The justice industry has become like the psychiatric industry, for profit and in need of costumers.
Talk to a lawyer. You can get a court order forcing your health care provider to allow you to fix or add to your health care records. You may also collect actual damages for any past refusal to allow you to fix and add to medical records. The law also lets you get attorney’s fees and expenses to cover the costs of the lawsuit if you win.
right to amend medical records
Its like they copied the criminal record system, it follows you like it or not.
The original story is still online,
Anyway 2008 Since 1998 , 1 ,564 people have died in school transportation- related crashes — an average of 142 fatalities per year.
A later study http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811890.pdf
Way more likely to be killed in the school bus or ride to school than any shooter !
But go ahead America , snatch guns and drug up more kids , lets see how that works out.
“As previously reported by The Times, friends of the family said he suffered from Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism. As early as age 10, Adam Lanza was taking medication, according to his former baby sitter, Ryan Kraft, now an aerospace engineer in Hermosa Beach.”
The very first “antipsychotic,” chlorpromazine, was developed by the French from a compound (phenothiazine) used as a pesticide, specifically to kill parasites in pigs. In other words, the pre-clinical use of chlorpromazine’s primogeniture was as a toxin. After chlorpromazine made it big, other pharmaceutical companies isolated similar compounds by testing whether or not they induced catalepsy, or lack of motor movement, in animals.
I know psychiatric drugs are dangerous, I asked my doctor about insomnia and he gave me a Zyprexa sample the pharma reps dropped off. When I read the scary medical stuff in tiny print my doctor said “don’t worry it’s safe”. I trusted him.
Years later after suffering on and enduring the withdrawal from hell that poison Zyprexa or “Olanzapine” causes I learn about the Zyprexa scandal http://www.google.com/search?q=the+zyprexa+scandal and the crimes committed by those soulless psychopaths at Eli Lilly to sell that stuff.
How can people be so evil and peddle this poison with lies and fraud even to children with no remorse whatsoever ? I asked myself for a longtime until I read this: Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work is a book by industrial psychologist Paul Babiak and psychopathy expert Robert D. Hare.
Psychopaths are real and among us, a subspecies that doesn’t care running amok. It’s really kind of scary actually.
If my old age includes alzheimer’s , senile dementia and stuff like that, my psychiatric living will says give me Valium and Morphine for “agitation” and stay the F away from me with the Haldol , Zyprexa ect.
I want to be high till I die not vegetated and akathisiated. I’ll go to rehab in my next life.
I still hear people say “my serotonin levels” will that myth ever die ?
It’s NAMI and the drug companies pushing this biologically based disease – much like diabetes or cancer – chemical imbalance analogy to increase drug sales and forced drugging wile claiming its to fight stigma.
Stigma and mental health problems: why psychiatric professionals are the main culprits
I think it’s time to put more effort into exposing NAMI for what it really is, the marketing dept for pharma and the psych industry. I know the argument against it is that some NAMI members support our cause.
NAMI is never going to change, if it does it will loose the funding from the pharmaceutical companies and then disappear anyway . I vote for more effort in exposing them as a pharma front and I am voting right now by pasting the link below.
Study steroids are great for getting high and acing the test at the same time but it’s almost like doing anabolic steroids for physical education in that you don’t get to keep the gains and its phony.
I only remember a quarter of the information I aced tests on years ago on taking that ADHD stuff.
The stimulant’s only increase short term storage by making boring stuff seem interesting and making it more “sticky” in the memory section of the mind.
The same people who profit by keeping the beds full are the ones deciding who is ‘sick’ and who is well.
When psychiatry causes addiction they call it drug ‘abuse’ to put the blame on the patient wile quitely ignoring the fact they were ones that introduced them to benzodiazepines or amphetamines in the first place.
I also noticed the majority of young people with addiction problems coming into rehabs were put on addictive stimulants for so called ADHD as kids. Someone should do real study on that.
They should rename the No Child Left Behind Act to the No Child Left Undrugged Act.
Brain disabling “Abilify” – Systematic (IUPAC) name:
An efficient synthesis of neuroleptic drugs under microwave irradiation http://jocpr.com/vol2-iss5-2010/JCPR-2010-2-5-506-517.pdf
I saw this story on the T.V news. Ask your doctor why big media rarely reports anything critical of the psycho pharmaceutical industrial complex in between drug ads.
This could be the start of lots of addiction recovery tourism if someone can find a country that allows this and treatment centers doing this therapy start opening up.
One of the first things that happens when anyone goes to treatment for drug and alcohol abuse is they get shuffled off to the doctor to usually emerge with an SSRI that rarely has any effect on post accute withdrawal anxiety/depression and another drug off label for sleep.
Psychiatry, the worlds largest pill pushing operation by far calling the shots in the addictions field, of course they say child drugging does not lead to addictions over and over despite the evidence.
Many of these kids are ending up in drug treatment centers. Just goto a 12 step addiction recovery meeting near any treatment center and start asking people if they were drugged as kids for so called ADHD, almost a majority I found say yes. Then they rattle of the names of other psychiatric drugs and the labels they got as the ‘side’ effects the stimulants pile up.
The defenders of child drugging are real good at blaming the victims by saying stuff like its only the kids who “abuse” the ADHD drugs that have problems but the child drugging industry is the one that introduced them to getting high on amphetamines at an early age in the first place !!!!
I hate to say it but just writing this is making me crave that Dexadrine/Adderal high . It’s the best pill high ever but of course that’s my fault I am obviously and “addict” right ? All the blame goes on me and none of it on the people manufacturing and pushing stuff that I never would have been exposed to in the first place of course.
What a scam, first the child drugging industry teaches kids what getting high is , then when they become addicted adults the psych industry teach those adults to blame themselves for there addictions. My fault, my bad DNA or what ever the latest medical fraud is the reason I am an “addict”.
That blame the victim strategy is effective too, when “addicts” start point fingers at doctors and psych pharma treatment has a sneaky way of calling that not taking responsibility or calling it denile and crap like that.
Organizations like the “NEA” The National Education Association , the largest professional organization and largest labor union in the United States works long and hard to make sure that there are no alternatives to child drugging.
The NEA opposes school vouchers because they divert resources from there members paychecks to private and specialty schools.
fraudulently claims these voucher programs offer no real choice for the majority of students.
Your teenager wants to sleep later and now his doctor agrees. Middle and high school students shouldn’t have to start school until 8:30 in the morning or later, the American Academy of Pediatrics says.
“The research is clear that adolescents who get enough sleep have a reduced risk of being overweight or suffering depression, are less likely to be involved in automobile accidents, and have better grades, higher standardized test scores and an overall better quality of life,” says Dr. Judith Owens, director of sleep medicine at Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, who led the team that wrote the group’s policy statement on the issue.
Read more http://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/let-them-sleep-docs-want-later-school-times-teens-n186976
Thanks Dr. Owens !!!
I agree the cameras stop the Stanford Prison Experiment from playing out in its entirety behind psychiatry’s locked doors but for those suffering paranoia its a true living hell.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few so they say but those few suffer beyond description because of those cameras, I saw that.
Regulators From The Good Intentions Paving Company !
Forcing paranoid individuals to live in an environment under constant camera surveillance with people following them around with clipboards writing stuff down. The Good Intentions Paving Company has really out done itself with this one !
I think that’s maybe the GIPCs best work ever, the standard strip searching of sexual assault victims during intake to inpatient is pretty clever but I think the tortures inflicted on those suffering paranoia could maybe win the best tortures for inpatient hell award.
Re: Reduce the suffering. It doesn’t always require drugs.
My friend in the place got a nasty dose of trauma too, one patient knocked anothers tooth out and my friend didn’t react well to all the chaos that followed and was really scared. He ran to the phones and called family for help that said he had to stay for “help” you are getting “help” and that made him just really bug out. No where to run in a dangerous place.
He was telling me he was there because he had stayed up on coffee and cigarettes for several days and he was psychotic I guess , he couldn’t deal with all the cameras in every room and had paranoia going on with the 1984 cameras theme to it.
I got a hold of a crayon and fouled the lenses and that helped him a bit, see no one even looks through those things or they would come right up and clean them. And they can’t see through right now so chill.
I think that’s the cruelest thing ever, putting people suffering from paranoia in a place with big ugly cameras all over the place with no idea who is on the other side of them.
It’s like a room full of spiders to treat arachnophobia.
Re: “You do everything you can to persuade a person who is psychotic to take the drug.”
I didn’t react well to the standard injection threats and that reaction was used as proof I really needed the drugs. I didn’t know that those threats are “standard” and took it personal.
It really pissed me off and had me really scared at the same time so there I was frightened and angry making my own threats at them in self defense, assault me with a needle and I will come back here one day and vandalize you and your cars out in the parking lot when this is all over. Be nice because we just may see each other outside this place on even ground.
That may sound horrible like I am a monster but what other means of self defense did I have at the time ?
Threat of a lawsuit ? ya sure, that has no bite or fright at all. Every other person was going to sue the place. I am going to sue this place… Heard that said by people 50 times at very least.
My other choice was to take that overdose of pills, it was way way to much and I absolutely had to refuse it. I know how my body reacts to drugs well enough. That dose was dangerous. It was an evil rock and a hard-place situation.
That standard injection threat ‘needle rape’ for drug coercion is just way over the top, way too frightening and should be illegal. It is illegal actually. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercion
That van ride then strip search with squat and cough then threats of needle rape for refusing that neoroleptic drug overdose. What really sucks is I just walked right into this nightmare cause I thought it might be a good idea to goto the ER and get detox from my failed attempt at controlled drinking and nervous breakdown from the events in my life at that time. What a dumb ass I was.
And stay away from UHS hospitals http://watchinguhs.wordpress.com
Anyway David, I still remember when you called the “hospital” I was stuck in and talked so ‘nicely’ to them , that was so awesome. Put him on the phone ! Then that arrogant doctors stupid wife shows up with those release of information papers and two days later the month long nightmare is over.
Thanks again for that.
P.S Soon after I pranked that hospital over and over asking for a chemical imbalance test and then when they answer no its ‘ what do you mean no test ! No one EVER gets a chemical test ?? How the F could you possibly know about anyone’s chemicals without a chemical test !!! What kind of place are you running ?! That’s nice, and are you still threatening the patients with needles if they refuse your shitty pills ??!!!
And what about all the office supplies used to find this woman “guilty” ? And the dry cleaning chemicals for those court people dressed up in their fancy suits and the fuel to get those people to “work” ? And the fuel used for those “how you live in ‘your’ house is our business” people driving around ?
According to polls, Americans who believe in small government often are skeptical of global warming…
Liberals don’t own the green revolution.
What about all the fossil fuel consumed by big government sitting in their air conditioned offices consuming endless quantities of office supplies like PAPER made from TREES !
What about all the coal burned to light all those big govt offices and power the millions of computers monitors faxes copy-machines ?
What about all the mail trucks delivering all that big paper work ?
The U.S. federal government is the single largest energy consumer in a nation that consumes more energy than any other in the world. Then we can add states and counties and towns and villages and their millions and millions of paper eating gadgets all plugged in sucking up megawatt after endless megawatt.
Worldwide consumption of paper has risen by 400% in the past 40 years, with 35% of harvested trees being used for paper manufacture… !!!!
Then we have all the fuel used to transport those big govt office workers to and from… and the diesel to haul the logs to the paper factory and the paper to the offices…
Big Govt is the worst thing ever for the environment.
Court Rules Off-The-Grid Living Is Illegal !
The state of Florida attempted to prosecute Robin Speronis, who was living completely independently of Florida’s water and electric system by employing solar energy, a camping stove, and rain water. Eventually, though the state couldn’t convict her for not having “proper” connection to a sewer or electrical system; she was found guilty of not being connected to an approved water supply.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1369086/why-is-florida-and-texas-so-strongly-against-off-grid-living-practices-that-they-deem-it-illegal/
Way to go big powerful govt ! Guilty of not being connected to an approved water supply.
Guilty ! Guilty ! Guilty ! that woman is.
I survived Clonopin , Remeron, Dexadrine, and Zyprexa all at high doses , I was so screwed up. I am just lucky I found “anti psychiatry” woke up and got off the path of permanent disability till death by psychiatry.
Polypsychopharmacology , that’s when the psychiatric poo really hits the fan !
Reminds me of the children’s song There Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly .
The song tells the story of an old woman who swallowed increasingly large animals, each to catch the previously swallowed animal.
Just fill in SSRIs for flies, benzos for spiders, mood stabilizers for birds, neuroleptics for cats, cogentin for dogs…
Or change it to there was a young boy who swallowed some Vyvance but it made him “bipolar” so he swallowed some Risperdal … But the Risperdal made akathisia inside him so he swallowed some more stuff but that stuff …
Reverting means undoing or otherwise negating the effects of one or more edits, which results in the page being restored to a previous version.
Pharma funded research – http://web.archive.org/web/20120122013020/http://www.furiousseasons.com/zyprexa%20documents/ZY100378062.pdf
My link in the topix forum to this story deleted ! http://www.topix.com/forum/med/dentistry
Someone re post please.
I’d love to see someone do a survey of people’s symptoms vs. the message they got from their provider when they complained of feeling depressed.
This is because no one in pharma ever does prison time for breaking these rules.
Re: Keep an eye on changes on all relevant search words and report them on the MIA forum so that somebody may change the info back or challenge the change.
I will help with this.
Using the web archive I can see how Wikipedia entries change over time.
Oh yes there will be a reaction from the establishment to try and “correct” I have done Wikipedia edits on mental health topics and they just got wiped out alot of the time. Then I was falsely accused of vandalism and blocked.
I don’t want to do anymore editing , I will donate time to watch for “corrections” and suggest topics for improvement.
I worked on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_diagnosis but it still needs much improvement.
Small but significant part ?
The internet is mainstream psychiatry’s worst nightmare.
LSD could help alcoholics stop drinking, AA founder believed Author reveals Bill Wilson’s acid theory, but his experiments upset other Alcoholics Anonymous members.
And anyone who thinks this will ever become available therapy is tripping.
Re : These conversations have been held right here in the open and as a result some of us are in the process of working with MIA to set up a forum on this site to discuss the formation of such an organization.
I was thinking maybe a chat room could be helpful too in sharing ideas faster in real time.
Re: We are a human rights movement, not the “consumer” auxiliary to the mental illness system…
“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”
― Vladimir Ilich Lenin
That Lenin quote above I think describes whats going on.
Look how nice the Judge Rotenberg Center is decorated, http://www.google.com/search?q=judge+rotenberg+center+pictures
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Also whats really really scary, insidious and downright diabolical is how outside observers will look at the person “stabilized” and say they look better. That has alot or maybe everything to do with why psychiatry’s barbaric and damaging practices continue.
Outside observers will often contradict a person complaining of the pleasure from anything in life robbing effects of these drugs with the argument that they seem so much “better” wile taking them. I guess that’s also why so many people buy into all that bull about psychiatry’s victims “lacking insight”, when it’s the outside observers who really lack the insight.
I also think many of those parents of mentally ill children and adults are just selfish and are motivated by there own selfish needs to have the child ‘fixed’ or simply shut up and shut down by psychiatry regardless of how damaging it is to that child. The rest of them just buy into psychiatry’s marketing lies and false premises and can’t really be blamed.
The assumption by people is that those zombifying drugs return unstable people back to the state of “stability” when in fact all it does is replace the what ever condition is labelled “unstable” with a condition of zombie disabled unmotivated sedated anhedoinia.
It’s horrible, when I had my nervous breakdown and they attempted to “stabilize” me all it did was add to the stress because those wicked drugs made it even more difficult to think and work out a solution to my problems and self “stabilize”.
And of course when I objected to taking these drugs that were anything but “help” I was then subjected to psychiatry’s usual coercive threats of forced injections ‘needle rape’ and the state hospital and the stress of being subjected to threats of violence and violation of bodily integrity by the people in charge of “helping” me just made things 100 times worse.
Wile that word “stabilize” is surely fraudulent, It just makes me want to vomit when I read posts by families in those mental health forums using the word “help” to describe what psychiatry does to “loved ones” behind it’s locked doors .
We need posts in the psychiatric drug forum,
Most people involved with mental health google the name psychiatric drugs plus the words withdrawal , side effects, taper ect
Titling posts (drug name goes here) plus “withdrawal” or “side effects” and some random words and it often becomes a first page search result leading more people to this site.
Want views? maybe try tagging the search for key words “bipolar medication weight gain” that should bring in 1000s of views. Maybe tomorrow I will try tagging those search keywords.
I should have filed a lawsuit myself.
I just searched “file lawsuit without an attorney” many pages came up and this seems to be one of the better ones “PRO SE PACKAGE, A SIMPLE GUIDE TO FILING A CIVIL ACTION” http://www.caed.uscourts.gov/caed/documents/forms/civil/prosepack.sightimpaired.pdf
It’s really sad because one of the most common reactions to psychiatric inpatient abuse is stating “I am going to sue this place”. I must have heard it 50 times yelled in the hallway by different people during my stay in that snakepit but the reality is it’s way way to difficult and these ‘hospitals’ know it.
And they have no problem threatening patients with the legal system, when I stated there would be street justice outside the hospital on even ground if they carried out their threats of forced injection needle assault for my pill refusal I am the one accused of breaking the law and threatened with charges.
For that my medical records state I was placed on ‘assault precautions’ .
I really can’t put into words for some who never lived it exactly how bad this situation was stuck between swallowing that overdose of brain damage pills with their horrible effect on my mind and body functions or face down a possible needle assault. I chose the latter because swallowing that many pills including Haldol was not an option for anyone who cares about their health and life.
There was no need for any of this. I could have been on my way in 2 or 3 days and back to my recovery with a lesson learned about drinking but instead I had to endure this $20,000 nightmare for refusing to get all screwed up on psych pills and then have to detox from them when it was over and endure nasty insomnia , anxiety… All those nasty neuroleptic withdrawals and withdrawal from that ‘mood stabilizer’ pill they tried to force that included possible seizures !
Seizures, great. All my experience with psychiatry, including everything I saw in that place confirms one thing, Psychiatry is a disgusting crime against humanity that needs to be held accountable, that’s why I do all this posting online.
Anyway I am glad to see the forced drugging is a battery charge even though having lived it I think rape is a better description of being forced to have those psychiatric chemicals forced/coerced into in ones bloodstream.
False imprisonment is an outside the body violation , forced drugging is an inside the body violation. The difference is monumental.
This is great but my experience is that lawyers won’t take these cases.
My civil rights were violated right from the start, the hospital intake strip search I believe violates my 4th amendment rights. Then the injection threats in response to rejecting a neuroleptic overdose including Haldol. Then that hearing was not held on time so authorization to hold had expired.
All this abuse happened after I voluntarily went for alcohol detoxification on my own no coercion but then got labelled “bipolar mixed” evidenced by “speech is rapid” and all that crap on my medical records to justify a month long nightmare.
Why did all this happen to me ? You have the same people making money keeping the beds full wile using no medical tests deciding who is ‘sick’ and who is well. A glaring conflict of interest that should be illegal.
Check it out, that scary fraudulent statement advising parents “Antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers have been proven to be effective in treating oppositional defiant disorder ” has been removed from the page.
We can make a difference.
Wow there is change, NICE ! Usually these disability rights people are all about securing income for the psych industry by fighting ONLY for the ‘right’ to Rx drugs and no other rights. This is great !!
I was just told again today after calling 1-800-950-NAMI their web page promoting the off label use of neuroleptic drugs in children would be changed. I also was on the phone with the FDA and was told to write to the Bad Ad Program, [email protected]
Maybe linking to NAMI on MIA is bad taste but here is the webpage promoting prescription drugs to children off label http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/ADHD/ADHD_and_Coexisting_Conditions.htm
And right now I am looking at this,
The Office of Prescription Drug Promotion (OPDP) (formerly Division of Drug Marketing, Advertising and Communications – DDMAC) http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofMedicalProductsandTobacco/CDER/ucm090142.htm
I think these NAMI pharma marketing people should be prosecuted and are getting off way way too easy if they actually do remove the false information because some disgruntled ex patient who posts online as “copy cat” called them a few times. NAMI using pharma money to promote drugs off label to kids, that has to be criminal.
Here is the page on the web archive, so we can see what changes they make IF they actually do change it. http://web.archive.org/web/20131130202902/http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/ADHD/ADHD_and_Coexisting_Conditions.htm
You couldn’t tell me to stop when I was that age. Total abstinence ? Ya right , never drink again.
This is a tough one , maybe they could teach them stay out of trouble or moderation strategies for drinking until it kicks there butt enough physically and mentally and they want to quit ?
Re: I believe we are about to experience the attacking stage.
Me too, and I am sure the high priced push down page rank games have already begun just like pharma hired computer people to police the Wikipedia articles on all mental health topics.
Dr. Pies begins by discussing websites ” . . . that critically examine psychiatry.” The worst antipsychiatry Web sites, in my view, are veritable bastions of bigotry, in which psychiatrists are subjected to invective and abuse…
This online abuse is a reaction not plain old action, what motivated this invective and abuse ?
Some of my posts are real nasty because I was abused by psychiatry first.
For example: If I disagree with the bipolar thing and reject the standard shuffle around nueroleptic pill overdose because I know damb well my ‘mania’ was alcohol withdrawals is it really necessary to threaten me with violation of my bodily integrity with violence and hypodermic needles full of real scary drugs that affect my breathing heart rate and consciousness and have a side effect of possible DEATH in a place with locked doors and no place to run ?
I think a public apology from the APA and drug company friends for ALL their crimes against humanity is in order, then we can all play nice.
“But these websites are abusive…” stop being cry babies , you all asked for it.
I was just told again they would correct this like I was several months ago and they didn’t. I think it may take legal action.
Dare you to sue NAMI for promoting the off label prescribing to kids for it’s drug company sponsors,
“Antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers have been proven to be effective in treating oppositional defiant disorder and conduct disorder. ”
That’s written on the NAMI page for “ADHD and Coexisting Conditions “. I called up NAMI and asked if the FDA has approved the use Antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers for so called “oppositional defiant disorder” just to mess with them because the answer is no they are not.
Why does your website say “proven effective” when the FDA has not approved this ?
If they can do it, so can the rest of the system. Meant to add that.
RE: From such a perspective, persons in recovery who occupy provider positions in conventional mental health programs are seen as committing a kind of betrayal.
I see betrayal when ‘consumers’ work for NAMI helping it’s mission remove more patient rights.
The addictions field is mostly run by peers and Alcoholics Anonymous is totally peer run.
I saw the one from the criminals at Eli Lilly on that link.
“You may have heard that some treatments for mental illness cause diabetes. Take a closer look at the facts. Fact: People with mental illness develop diabetes up to 4 times more often than people who don’t have a mental illness. Studies show that people with mental illness may be more likely to develop diabetes, regardless of whether or not they take medication. ”
Wow ! That’s audacity .
“circadian rhythm disturbances”
You are kidding me right ?
For the vast majority of human history people didn’t have jobs and businesses and clocks and all this crap we have now, the built shelter and did the hunter gather thing and made more people. When they got tired they slept and when they weren’t anymore they got up.
Where is the science that says humans must sleep wake on time daily ?
Patently absurd is first inventing clocks and then second using the clocks to call people that can’t sleep “on time” by them broken .
In the ‘hospital’ I tried to use the phone it didn’t work because it was a “long distance” call. A long distance call ? I haven’t heard anyone say “long distance” to describe a telephone phone call in 15 years !!
This was a Universal Health Services faculty , In 2010, UHS reached an agreement to acquire Psychiatric Solutions, Inc., one of the nation’s largest behavioral health operators. As a result of the acquisition, completed in November, UHS’ annual revenue exceeded $7 billion dollars.
7 billion dollars revenue and these greedy abusive bastards won’t let their psychiatric prisoners call outside the area code !
More on UHS http://watchinguhs.wordpress.com/
Me too and agree,
I survived forced psychiatry, an unconstitutional and horrifyingly abused process by which– in the absence of any destructive activity, and on nothing more than the word of a single mental health worker people are stripped of civil/human rights and imprisoned in a psychiatric facility to be experimented on with drugs against there will, with no form of recourse whatsoever. A terrifying and destructive ordeal whose only positive effect is to inspire activism against the fraud and abuse of psychiatry.
Re: if people were asked ‘what happened to you’ .
When I was made sick with psychiatric drugs and was showing up at the hospital in distress no one ever asked “whats wrong, what happened, why are you feeling this way” ? During the wait sitting in observation alone naked in the gown I would start putting together an explanation for when they asked but no one ever asked. I wanted to tell someone why I bugged out.
Patient in observation room 3, anxiety agitation, has broken brain, give disabling pills… Next. That’s today’s psychiatry.
Has broken brain due to treatment would have been somewhat accurate.
How about if people stopped falling for the insomnia scam and sleep when tired and wake when not ?
“History yields valuable insights regarding sleep. According to some recent research, until the age of electricity many people slept in two segments. They would wake up in the night for an hour or two, then return to sleep for another block of time. “The dominant pattern of sleep, arguably since time immemorial, was biphasic,” says Roger Ekirch, a sleep historian at Virginia Tech University and author of At Day’s Close: Night in Times Past”
One of the biggest “problems” people get drugged for is they can’t sleep “on time”.
Just hang around any inpatient setting, there is always a large percentage of people who have so called “insomnia” locked into that never ending battle to get it right with the sleep lining up for pills every night, pills that usually don’t hardly work with nasty ‘side’ effects.
I hate the insomnia scam, if you can’t do the sleep 11-7 eight hour thing your broken and need dangerous pills… The insomnia scam leads millions of people to the world of psychiatric labels and drugs every year.
Check out this http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/02/two-diseases-big-pharma-hopes-you-get-in-2014/ one is insomnia.
insomnia is a symptom of depression bipolar…. to bad insomnia and the idea that sleeping the same time every day is a scam in the first place because humans never did that before in history. Humans have been on this planet long before electricity and cheap quartz crystal clocks bedtimes and wake times.
Re: I doubt that any healthy “normal” person would react with anything BUT anger/rage to being locked up and drugged, especially with meds specifically designed to act directly on brain functioning – it is TORTURE
I didn’t react well to the “take these pills or else” injection threats, as angry as I was I calmly as I could made it clear that if they needle raped me there was going to be street justice outside the “hospital” some day and to count on it. You wont see me coming , think about that before you assault me.
I told them I screwed up with alcohol and went to the hospital voluntarily to get back on the wagon where I did well without those drugs that harmed me in the past. Why was is so important to crush my resistance to taking those drugs with threats of assault with a needle ? Not drugs for alcohol detoxification but others including Haldol , Trileptal and 600mg seroqel in one swallow, 25 mg seroquel alone knocks me out . I was in danger.
Why was I threatened and treated like that ?
Why did I have to be pushed into issuing my own nasty threats in self defense ? I don’t normally act that way.
I went to the fucking hospital for help, not to be threatened with violence and needle rapes !!!! WTF is WRONG with these people ?
Do they tell the cancer patient take this chemo or we will assault you and give it to you anyway ?
And the dosage of drugs they were trying to coerce me to take was frightening, voluntarily putting them in my mouth without resistance would have been proof I WAS suicidal and didn’t care about my health and life.
Psychiatry is just effed up, FUBAR. No wonder more people in 3rd world countries get better wile these “1st world” barbarians making billions of dollars only create MORE sick people.
I would be in a sick zombie daze myself right now if I listened to them.
Met a young woman at a meeting tonite and again after the small talk about what got you into addiction recovery, (benzos – pain meds) from doctors, then about psych drugs did rehab put you on those? then I find out the drugging for her started at 11yo for so called ADD.
Now her pill intake is Wellbutrin Visteral Nuerontin (snake oil) and Remeron .
It’s psychiatry and the medical profession destroying most of these young lives, NOT that scary drug dealer targeted by the so called war on drugs.
Someone tell me why if untreated ‘mental illness’ is the reason for substance abuse why is it that the majority of the young people showing up at drug rehabs are the ones who were subjected to child psychiatry , why is that ? It should be the ones who ‘fell through the cracks’ and went untreated right ?
Anyone can do what I do, you goto these meetings and engage in the small talk about drugs and addiction long enough to ask if the young person you are talking to was subjected to child psychiatry and anyone can confirm it’s the majority. It’s easy.
Good point, celebrities never do despite constantly having nervous breakdowns and there run ins with psychiatry making the news.
When someone is forced, feels trapped, and fears what control the mental health system has over them, they need to know that they have a voice and that they are not alone…
I new friend of mine just got “baker acted” or 5150ed, I was with her earlier that day and she was bugging out a bit at the drug alcohol treatment center from not sleeping and had drifted into that dreaming wile awake world expressing ideas not based on reality so much.
I wasn’t there but the police came and handcuffed her for the hospital ride and she expressed her feelings of betrayal “I trusted you people…” and has lived the hospital thing enough times to know the booking process comes next and the place I think they brought her is “a smoke free facility” so cigarette confiscation and smoking withdrawal is added to the standard psychiatric nightmare.
This woman was also a victim of “Invega Consta” and I did tell her about human rights and the right to ones own body and what goes in it and about 1-877-mad-pride. Invega Consta, the work of affluent NAMI parents no doubt.
Here it is, I know she feels forced, feels trapped, and fears/hates the control the mental health system has over but there is no way for me to even contact her and ask how is going due to the cell phone confiscation inflicted on psychiatric inpatient prisoners and “privacy laws” that keep friends and concerned people from being able to contact inpatient prisoners.
And me having to listen to having to listen to people say well its sad but she really needed the help.
“Help” ?? Handcuffs and a cop car , the likely inpatient strip search “booking” process, cigarette confiscation and surely the agitation that any smoker feels getting cut off from smoking feels getting “treated”. “Help” ? who the hell ever emerges from the inpatient nightmare grateful for the “help” ? Please stop calling it that.
That’s it, nothing I can do. I am really good at online activism for human rights in mental health linking, posting, keywords and page rank … but there is nothing I can do to even contact this woman and tell her hang in there and don’t take any abuse from your “helpers”. Hope she remembers 1-877-mad-pride if having a hard time.
And of course psychiatric drugs make the prophecy that recovery is not possible come true too, see how sick you get when you try and quit them !
Of course the problem with mental illness is not that people have it but it’s that they BELIEVE they do because a self for-filling prophecy needs a belief to work.
A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.
The self-fulfilling prophecy is, in the beginning, a false definition of the situation evoking a new behavior which makes the original false conception come true. This specious validity of the self-fulfilling prophecy perpetuates a reign of error. For the prophet will cite the actual course of events as proof that he was right from the very beginning.
I was at 10mg , I got off all of it and went on Ativan for the evil Zyprexa withdrawals and then became dependent on them and clonopin and had to do nasty but not as bad withdrawal from that. Zyprexa withdrawal is benzo withdrawal.
Zyprexa should be banned.
Sam in the above post needs a hospital bed.
How could these kids be contacted ? http://abcnews.go.com/US/study-shows-foster-children-high-rates-prescription-psychiatric/story?id=15058380
Is it correct that the statue of limitations only starts at 18 ?
I am also thinking that addiction treatment centers/ AA NA are a good place to look for plaintiffs because I ask every single young person I meet in recovery if they were victims of child psychiatry and the majority >50% answer yes. It sounds like a very personal question but its very easy to ask, I just ask something like “how did you become addicted, did they start feeding you pills in school for attention or a so called mood disorder?” and more often the not the answer is ya I was 7 or 8 when they started giving me Ritalin/ Adderal… Did they give you more pills for the crash and insomnia ? That’s the part where they start listing all the off label stuff.
Child psychiatry is creating teen and adult drug addiction, why ? I don’t have any medical test to confirm this obviously but the childhood drug exposure I believe is advancing progression , that addictive hunger reaction kicks in right away when a young person exposed to psychiatric drugs tries addictive recreational drugs like so many young people do these days.
Dual diagnosis fans will tell you these kids are “self medicating” because of so called mental illness, bullsh^t ! , they already have the brain damage that IS drug dependence and addiction from years of exposure to Rx psychotropic drugs.
This could also be a project for you Jim, suing these doctors for the cost of drug rehabilitation and making them take responsibility for destroying so many lives in this manner.
No one else that I know of is tracking the number of young people exposed to child psychiatry showing up in drug and alcohol treatment centers except me that I know of but to me the cause and effect is obvious.
Autism drug study involves South Florida children
“If it’s shown to convincingly and safely improve trial participants’ impairments in interacting and communicating with others, researchers would seek the FDA’s nod as the first drug approved for offsetting autism’s core effects, said Dr. Peter Ventre, co-owner and principal investigator for Research Centers of America in Oakland Park, which is leading the study in South Florida.”
Peter Ventre was part of that crew at Compass Health Systems, where they “treated” Gabriel Myers . http://www.linkedin.com/pub/peter-ventre/2b/361/697
Check this out, more on these dirtbags and their studies.
” For years, drug makers did not study most medications on children, largely due to ethical concerns over using kids as test subjects. More recently, however, Congress passed laws to encourage pharmaceutical companies to test their drugs for safety and efficacy with children by extending patents on drugs approved for adults.
In a trial for one drug that was not identified, Punjwani gave one child dosages “in excess of… specified limits,” the letter says.
The child was discontinued from the trial before it was completed, the letter says, “due to worsening auditory hallucinations that apparently caused the subject to lacerate her wrists.” The girl was “overdosed” on the drug for more than two weeks.
The letter says Punjwani submitted a corrective action plan to the FDA and revised his procedures to better protect his research subjects from dosing missteps. “However,” the letter says, “we are concerned that the response is not adequate to prevent future recurrence of the violation.”
The clinical trials for a different drug were to adhere to a series of protocols that specified what dosage of the drug was to be used, depending on the child’s weight, the letter states. But for six of seven children — chosen at random — who received one of the tested drugs in Punjwani’s study, the dosage exceeded what was spelled out in the protocol.
One child who weighed 103 pounds, for example, “was overdosed on study medication for 20 consecutive days while participating in the study,” the letter states. The child is identified only as “Subject 1001.”
A child identified as “Subject 1003,” who was 15 at the time of the trials, “was overdosed on study medication for 21 consecutive days while participating in the study,” the letter says. “Subject 1004,” a 16-year-old, “received doses in excess of the maximum target dose for 3 consecutive days while participating,” the letter says.
A 10-year-old, identified as “Subject 1007,” was “overdosed” for nearly two weeks while on the study, the letter states.
Read more here: http://psychrights.org/2010/100316FDAWarnsPunjwani.htm#storylink=cpy
Got to love how the drug companies seek out these dirtbags to do there “studies”.
Five-year Study Re-affirms that Housing Stabilizes People
June 28, 2014
A five-year study involving 497 homeless people with mental health or addictions problems in Vancouver found that, when provided free apartments, most people “stabilized their lives and coexisted peacefully with their neighbours,”
Read more http://www.madinamerica.com/2014/06/five-year-study-re-affirms-housing-stabilizes-people/
“Zoning laws throughout this country are designed to keep out poor people and homeless people by making it illegal to build small, affordable, eco-friendly houses.”
LAKEWOOD, NJ — An impoverished man learned the true nature of government as he watched tearfully as bureaucrats demolished his home in the woods. He was bothering no one except the government.
This was the reality that was presented to “Sam,” a 70-year-old homeless man living in the forest in Lakewood Township, New Jersey. Sam was a part of “Tent City,” a homeless encampment where between 80-120 individuals have stayed at any given time over the past decade, on so-called public land in Lakewood. These individuals were making the best of their situation by erecting tents and shelters in the woods instead of sleeping on park benches and relying on welfare housing and government subsidies.
Read more http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/tent-city-nj/
Staff provokes, that’s for sure.
When they mistreated me I quickly reminded them that some time in the not so distant future I will be outside in the real world with them away from any panic buttons and the other unfair advantages over me they currently enjoyed so they best be nice and keep hands off me.
OBJECTIVE: The authors’ goal was to investigate whether there is a greater suicide risk in the placebo arms of placebo-controlled studies of active medication for the treatment of acute manic episode and the prevention of manic/depressive episode. If so, this would be a strong ethical argument against the conduct of such studies.
METHOD: All placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized trials of medication for the treatment of acute manic episode and the prevention of manic/depressive episode that were part of a registration dossier submitted to the regulatory authority of the Netherlands, the Medicines Evaluation Board, between 1997 and 2003, were reviewed for occurrence of suicide and attempted suicide.
RESULTS: In 11 placebo-controlled studies of the treatment of acute manic episode, including 1,506 patients (117 person-years) in the combined active compound group and 1,005 patients (71 person-years) in the combined placebo group, no suicides and no suicide attempts occurred. In four placebo-controlled studies of the prevention of manic/depressive episode, including 943 patients (406 person-years) in the combined active compound group and 418 patients (136 person-years) in the combined placebo group, two suicides (493/100,000 person-years of exposure) and eight suicide attempts (1,969/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the combined active compound group, but no suicides and two suicide attempts (1,467/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the combined placebo group.
CONCLUSIONS: Concern about greater risk of suicide or attempted suicide in the placebo group should not be an argument against the conduct of placebo-controlled trials for these indications, provided that appropriate precautions are taken.
The above is pure “copy cat” from : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15800158
CONCLUSIONS ? How about Bipolar medication causes more suicide than it prevents !!!
“Based on these absolute numbers from these four trials, I have calculated (see Figure S1 showing calculation, and see Figure 2) that active agents are most likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo (95% CI 0.5, 10.00).”
My medical records said suicidal when I went to the ER with anxiety attacks, a lie to justify inpatient, but they also tried to use ‘suicide risk’ to force these ‘bipolar’ drugs on me that raise the suicide risk !
With that kind logic psychiatry uses we would promote drunk driving to lower traffic deaths.
Maybe the abusive suicide prevention techniques and the ‘suicide risk’ labels being used as a justification for psychiatric abuse inadvertently tells people that committing suicide is a means to fight back ?
If so, I guess they don’t know their suicide only serves to make the abusive system stronger.
Also I will never forget when I went to the ER complaining of these horrible withdrawals that also included nausea , vomiting , panic attacks and insomnia from hell the ER nurse came to me and said “the doctor can write you more Zyprexa if we ask him nicely”. Great ask him nicely. Please sir, can I have more of the stuff that made me this sick in the first place ?
I was given Zyprexa for anxiety and insomnia and when I got tired of being a zombie and quit the stuff the withdrawals sent me into a frightening psychosis I never ever had before taking it.
That’s proof to me at least in the case of Zyprexa that anti psychotics cause psychosis.
P.S It took the makers of thalidomide 50 years to apologize , The Grünenthal Group’s apology, but no admission of liability, came 50 years after the defect-causing drug was taken off the market.
Giving these chemicals to expecting mothers, that’s just way way beyond stupid.
The thalidomide disaster is one of the darkest episodes in pharmaceutical research history. The drug was marketed as a mild sleeping pill safe even for pregnant women. http://www.google.com/search?q=thalidomide
I mean what the hell , adults take these SSRI drugs and then get all kinds of sick from withdrawals the marketing “pharma fraud” dept claimed did not exist till people started getting sick and speaking out. SSRI withdrawal and brain zaps , great idea subjecting newborns to that too.
Who are these people who do pharma’s dirty work ? When I first started reading MIA I used to ask myself how can these pharma people lie and commit all the crimes I read about on these pages that harm so many people with zero remorse ? I found my answer.
Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work is a book by industrial psychologist Paul Babiak and psychopathy expert Robert D. Hare. A compelling, frightening, and scientifically sound look at exactly how psychopaths work in the corporate environment http://www.mtpinnacle.com/pdfs/psycophaths-at-work.pdf
The snake in the suit say’s lets target children and expecting mothers, profits people profits !
We can also thank the pharma front group NAMI for some of these problems with police, wile posing as grassroots and advocating for police training they are the ones advocating for removal of patient rights, laws to force drug rape (forced penetration with a needle) both behind locked doors locked doors and in peoples homes.
NAMI takes millions from the pharmaceutical industry each year to promote the increased use of psychotropic drugs, and lobbies for laws allowing people accused of mental illness to be forced to take it’s sponsor’s drugs. The drugs most often prescribed for involuntary patients — Janssen’s Risperdal (risperidone) and Lilly’s Zyprexa (olanzapine) .
They will tell the public “its all about prevention” as they do everything in their power to stick up for psychiatric abuses of human rights and but they can’t seem to figure out that the human rights abuses they advocate for are the major reason it takes police to get a person into the abuse centers called help in the first place.
They are also the ones pushing smoking bans inpatient wile they have the audacity to call themselves “advocates” and the voice of the mentally ill. NAMI is entirely ran by the pharmaceutical industry. In the case of Lilly, at least, “funding” takes more than one form. For a wile Jerry Radke, a Lilly executive, was “on loan” to NAMI, working out of the organization’s headquarters. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1999/11/prozacorg
Anyway the police are in a real jam until someone cleans up the abuses behind the locked doors of psychiatry cause as I have tried to point out many people fight “help” for a reason.
‘We called for help, and they killed my son,’
Put Kieth Vidal’s killer in jail to sent a message to other trigger happy cop bullies.
Family of Michelle Cusseaux wants independent investigation into police shooting…
This is evidence of why police should not be in the business of capturing customers for the dirty mental health industry. This woman was in her own home and committed no crimes.
She threatened Southwest behavioral health when they tried to coerce her into receiving human rights violating “help”.
Here is an example of how just the thought of going to the psychiatric abuse centers called help got a man killed by police,
“The officers, two women and a man, initially were able to calm Simmons after they were summoned to the Maryhaven Center of Hope facility, a tidy, two-story house with brown shingles and black and white trim in suburban Middle Island. But when they told Simmons they were taking him to a hospital for a psychiatric evaluation, he began kicking and punching them, Fitzpatrick said.” http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/25/man-tased-by-suffolk-police-dies-following-altercation/
I am sure both these people above had previous experience with “help” and that was the reason they put up a fight.
And how about this, it may sound trivial to someone who has never suffered panic attacks from hell or suicidal depression but now the self proclaimed experts on mental health are advocating non smoking policies for people subjected to inpatient psychiatry.
As trivial as it may sound their is without a doubt a body count as a result of these no smoking policies as its one more reason for people to avoid the hospital, fight going, try to tough it out alone or just go get one more bottle of vodka in hopes of feeling better because “If I goto the hospital I can’t smoke and will totally bug out (again)”. That’s the way people think.
Smoking is legal in the USA but of course the mental health industry cares little about things like “legal” , civil rights and freedoms.
Police can not take all the blame for the way people react and threaten their safety when they have to come to take them for “treatment” in these hell holes.
Psychiatric Coercion and Restraint – YouTube http://youtu.be/2ifitvaIe7k
For starters turn off all the flashing lights usually all the irrational behavior is driven by anxiety and all these vehicles parked all over lighting up the neighborhood flashing and strobing serves no valid purpose whatsoever at all and only increases the anxiety of the person having a crisis.
We had a resident threatening suicide so police and EMT came, I can’t understand why they insist on lighting up the entire neighborhood like that, making the scene look chaotic and alarming. And why the bad parking ? No need for a chaotic looking crooked block up half the street parking job to go with the vehicle light show that attracted 20 onlookers that I can think of.
I guess it’s a case of “that’s the way we have always done it” thinking. We always leave the strobing lights on and park all stupid.
And why the big diesel ladder truck ? Is the person in crisis going to climb a tree and get stuck like a kitten ?
Statute of limitations starts at 18 y/0 , maybe there is hope.
I hope they interview the kids themselves like ABC news did here. Part 1: Children reveal painful memories of neglect, heavy duty drug treatments. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/foster-kids-prescribed-psychotropic-drugs-heavy-duty-drug-treatments-neglect-2020-15077792
That’s what I want to see testimony from the victims themselves.
Psychiatrists admit there is no medical, biological test for any mental disorder, yet these kids are drugged drugged and drugged !
Psychiatric Drugging of Foster Children—One Kids Story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1lFZw3jm5c
I just don’t want to spend my last days living some nightmare like “Haldol for agitation”.
The funding of NAMI by multiple pharmaceutical companies was exposed by the investigative magazine Mother Jones in 1999, including that an Eli Lilly & Company executive was then “on loan” to NAMI working out of NAMI headquarters. Also, on December 18, 2003, The New York Times exposed that NAMI had bused scores of protestors to a hearing in Frankfort, Kentucky, took out full page ads in Kentucky newspapers, and sent angry faxes to state officials, all to protest a state panel proposal to exclude the antipsychotic drug Zyprexa from Medicaid’s list of preferred medications. According to the article, “What the advocacy groups did not say at the time was that the buses, ads and faxes were all paid for” by the manufacturer of the antipsychotic drug Zyprexa, Eli Lilly.
Why is Eli Lilly so dirty and corrupt ?
How is it possible to injure and kill without remorse ?
Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work is a book by industrial psychologist Paul Babiak and psychopathy expert Robert D. Hare. The text was published by HarperBusiness on May 9, 2006
Authors estimates that one in 100 people in North America are psychopaths.
Almost killing me … killing and injuring thousands of others…
“a small price to pay for this molecule”
Look at this internal e-mail. These people should all be in prison.
Furious Seasons Zyprexa Documents.
We risk walking towards the edge of a cliff… When they get real close and someone kicks them in the rear that’s me.
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Personally I would rather the psychical interventions that to be loaded up with the “one-size fits all” brain damaging chemical restraint drugs all day.
Why Is a Camping Trip the Ultimate Insomnia Cure?
Just seven days in the wilderness resets and synchronizes your circadian clock.
Anyway as an activist in this revolution I accept that it’s ending with a whimper not a bang as much as I would like to see a really big bang like the whole psychiatric industry put on public trial for it’s crimes against humanity, its obviously not going to go down like that.
Just a whimper as more and more people slowly come across truth and start reading
If any historians are reading this and need a name for what’s going now, I suggest you call psychiatry in this time period “the pharmacaust”.
And this is the way it ended,
And this is the way it ended ,
Not with a bang but with a whimper.
Maybe the teachers should take the speed instead so they could keep up with the kids ?
I will continue to extend my ADHD drug holiday, been several years now, cause I can’t take that anxiety and depression than comes when the Adderal high/focus wears off. Got the focus, doing good… now I am crashing and its going away, feel like crap now, over and over day in day out no thanks. More pills for ‘side’ effects ? Double no thanks.
They say ADHD is like the channels on the T.V are always changing… Kinda makes sense, until I find something I like then don’t touch that remote !
How about this,
It’s possible that the “magic mushrooms” can teach people how to be happy again, me and some buddies were talking about our experiences back in the day and ya that was unbelievable fun. My face hurt from laughing for the next 2 days once after a trip my checks were sore the same way my chest would get from bench pressing.
Then we were busting on mainstream pharmaceuticals and I asked the question, has any one really had a good time parting on Xanax or some pain pills, the consensus was no. That crap can and often will wreck your life.
This whole anti depressant thing is a joke, One in 10 Americans now takes an antidepressant medication; among women in their 40s and 50s, the figure is one in four. WTF ???
I am convinced these SSRI drugs are causing divorces and more depression cause they create sexual dysfunction and sex is a big part of the attachment process that keeps couples together.
If anti depressants actually worked they would destroy humanity, why ? Cause if people could be happy for no reason all activity would cease and people would just be happy. This and that bad thing are going to happen but so what , I won’t feel sad… Think about it.
Sad and bad feelings are motivators.
It’s not about my sleep or your sleep , it’s about the myth that sleeping “on time” same time and 8 hours daily is somehow scientifically normal, correct , the right way , it’s not “the way we have always done it” .
It’s a myth that pharma exploits and perpetuates.
If you have trouble sleeping the same time same length daily they call normal your broken… it’s like scientific profanity this myth.
MIA page rank is getting better, hell ya.
” take our message to the general public”
Links links and more links on the Google index . Sucks that sites like NAMI and Web Md snag first page google for most drug names and mental health keywords but that’s alright the message is getting out.
“pressuring or forcing people to take these dangerous chemicals”
I think a survivor run review site for rating hospitals , doctors and medications would be cool. How about like the political forum was added , add a rate that hospital forum or something like that. Every post topix is a google link.
I don’t know, pharma owns mainstream media, ask your doctor…
I was just web surfing some more and lots of pages and comments are popping up directly blaming his drug treatment. It’s no match for mainstream media but it looks like more people are speaking out or at least questioning.
Following the untimely death of comic genius Robin Williams, Alex Jones asks the painful question: Was Robin Williams taking SSRI pills which are known to cause people to commit suicide? http://www.infowars.com/was-robin-williams-on-suicide-pills/
Alex Jones is cool , I like the liberty movement, for me it fits with the right to be free from psychiatry.
It just sucks.
People that never lived a nasty panic-anxiety attack and never took a nasty ride through psychosis just don’t get it.
“I just need a smoke to get right, to focus and figure this out…”
No person is not being “difficult” they are riding through hell and just need a smoke to get right a bit, to focus and figure a path to out.
With the exception of the addictions field , the problem with the mental “health” system is it’s almost entirely run by people who never lived it.
For example I have seen people majorly bugging out from benzo withdrawals and if I never lived it and was just looking at them as an outside observer I too would be telling them “just try and relax and get some rest” . I lived it and know damb well they can’t relax or rest at all not one bit and are in that hell space.
Oh well, pushing back the tide on the smoking thing may be impossible but it’s fun to make noise and expose those phonies at NAMI.
I know the truth.
Sleeping in one eight-hour chunk same time every day is a very recent phenomenon and is not “natural”.
Nightly 8-Hour Sleep Isn’t a Rule. It’s a Myth
References to “first sleep” or “deep sleep,” and “second sleep” or “morning sleep” abound in historical legal depositions, works of literature, and other pre-Industrial era archival documents. Gradually, during the 19th century, references to segmented sleep disappeared, Ekirch says, “and now people call it insomnia.”
More on that.
Robin Williams: We’re a heavily medicated society. All the drugs we take: Prozac, Effexor, Valium. I thought for the last ten years, we’ve been on some weird f***ing drug – the whole country – called “Fukitol.”
I am to fast on the post comment button. Got more.
I also asked how many people inpatient in the US do they think right now are having anxiety attacks from hell pushing them into that scary psychosis right now as a result of forced smoking cessation NAMI supports ?
I always post to much on the topic of suicide only because I lived the hell of the one size fits all suicide precautions and inpatient abuse they call “help” after those brain drugs screwed me up all the way to the hospital.
My latest thing is busting NAMI and it’s push to ban smoking by psychiatric inpatients.
I can’t think of anything worse to add to a suicidal crisis than the pain of FORCED cigarette withdrawal, even healthy happy people describe it as hell and NAMI wants that hell included in the inpatient psychiatry experience for everyone everywhere.
I asked the NAMI helpline how many suicidal people they though avoided help and tried to endure it alone and are dead now because they knew going to the hospital included cigarette confiscation and withdrawal hell.
How does adding the pain of nicotine withdrawal help a person in crisis when it causes Headache Nausea Constipation or diarrhea diarrhea Falling heart rate and blood pressure, Fatigue, drowsiness, and insomnia Irritability, Difficulty concentrating, Anxiety, Depression, Increased hunger and caloric intake, Increased desire for the taste of sweets, Tobacco cravings ?
I asked lots of questions like that and they hung up on me.
Anyone can call NAMI and ask these questions 1-800-950-NAMI
It’s also fun to ask NAMI about it’s millions in funding from the pharmaceutical companies (you know the ones that make stuff like Chantix).
The Top Five Special Interest Groups Lobbying To Keep Marijuana Illegal
– See more at: http://www.republicreport.org/2012/marijuana-lobby-illegal/
Pharmaceutical companies are included .
P.S Abilify is classified as an anti psychotic not an anti depressant, but since the pharma industry is above the law it is okay for them to engage in false advertizing.
The war on weed has to be one of the stupidest most destructive and wasteful activities of the last 40 years. Marijuana is like the crappiest “high” anyway that only became popular because it’s illegal in most places.
Pot Versus Abilify
Through actual text from commercials for the anti-depressant drug known as Abilify, HIGH TIMES, in association with York Productions, asks the question, “If pot did this to you, would you smoke it?” http://youtu.be/uFk-4uveLPM
If you really think about it it’s complete absurdity feeding troubled youth these dangerous chemicals as the fix to there problems in life.
Is that the best we can do ?
Future generations are going to look at this time in history and be amazed at the stupidity of people “back then” , meaning the mass drugging of the population right now.
The stories here on MIA should be on T.V news but nope, the they can’t anger their pharma sponsors who pay billions for those “ask your doctor” ads.
Robin Williams is already becoming the poster boy for the champagne to drug even more people.
Look at this ,
Robin Williams: We’re a heavily medicated society. All the drugs we take: Prozac, Effexor, Valium. I thought for the last ten years, we’ve been on some weird fucking drug – the whole country – called “Fukitol.”
At one point my poly intake was 50mg Dexedrine, 8mg Xanax XR, 45mg Remeron and 20mg Zyprexa . At the very end it was 14mg Xanax and I was sent off for substance “abuse” treatment.
I was totally out there, at one point during withdrawal I believed I was dead and in purgatory and thoroughly convinced everyone around me was dead too but they had not figured it out yet.
I left to go drink some alcohol to try and come down and get my sanity back but the people in the hotel restaurant didn’t react well when I told them “we are all dead, have you figured that out yet?” and they wouldn’t sell me anymore drinks. That movie “The Langoliers” http://youtu.be/FPqML9D4n1g kind of describes that place where nothing is real, has no substance and just isn’t right. The hotel was too far from anyplace to walk to to get more alcohol and it wasn’t really working anyway.
I couldn’t sleep so I pulled the goto the hospital with panic attacks routine, didn’t tell anyone about my loss of reality just complained of the intense anxiety that was causing the loss of touch with reality and was sent for inpatient treatment for a week then back to the rehab that gave me Zyprexa for anxiety.
I went home on that crap and was like a total emotional zombie without the Dexedrine to counter act it and eventually started drinking to try and over come the Anhedonia but it didn’t work.
Long story short on that I suffered withdrawals from hell from Zyprexa and soon was on Ativan and went back to taking amphetamines, Adderal. 2 more years till I crashed and burned again.
More on Zyprexa withdrawal http://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/zyprexa-withdrawal-horror-stories-ii/
Long story even shorter I learned the truth about psychiatry and finally saw it was doing nothing but destroying me so my last round with substance abuse treatment I told them to F___ off with the psych meds… keep that brain damaging sh^t away from me… and became one of the 10% that actually recovers from “addiction”.
Got to love how the psych industry blames patients when they become dependent on their drugs by calling their victims “addicts” when they make them sick.
I did inpatient psych so many times I lost count getting pegged with labels like “schizoaffective disorder” the label that usually means screwed up by psychiatry in the first place.
Recovery is possible and takes a wile, in the beginning I had crippling anxiety all the time but it just got less and less with time. In the beginning just going into a store or talking to people would freak me out, it took about a year for that to go away, now several years later it all seems like a bad dream, a nightmare that happened to someone else.
My message to anyone reading this that’s still sick from psychiatry, If I found my way out and got away from them I think almost anyone can.
I know ,
1. Read the side effects of “Vyvance”.
2. Read the symptoms of bipolar.
The symptoms are the same.
The way it is now in most cases no matter how sick people get from psychiatric medication all those bone heads know how to do is add stronger more dangerous ones.
Want to solve the so called “crisis” in mental health in less than a year ?
Start screening for iatrogenic psychiatric illness !
Psychiatry is the cause of its own problems, remember this report a few weeks ago ?
Adverse Reactions to Psychiatric Medications Hospitalize 17,000 Annually.
I was never anywhere near a psych ward until I fell for the serotonin market ting scam and taking those first pills that made everything worse.
RE: “We knew that antipsychotic use was increasing among youth, but were surprised to learn just how often children with ADHD or depression receive an antipsychotic as part of their treatment”
It’s that Vyvance an inferior form of Dexedrine they call “effective” for 12-14 hours by adding an extra long drawn out anxiety ridden crash followed by insomnia to the original Dexedrine experience .
More anti psychotics are being used on kids as a direct result of the Vyvance get a new patent on an old drug scam.
Now Shire agrees to test Vyvanse in preschoolers
Sounds like a version of the “cash for kids” scandal.
Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by Philly.com…
My comments are awaiting “moderation”. Maybe cause I included a link to big bucks big pharma documentary.
P.S pharma gives lots more money to NAMI state chapters.
“Antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers have been proven to be effective in treating oppositional defiant disorder and conduct disorder.” – NAMI
Translation: Anti-psychotic medications and mood stabilizers have been proven to be effective in turning “defiant” children into lifetime mental patients for the NAMI sponsors.
“National Alliance For The Mentally Ill” marketing Risperdal to children off label
From the NAMI webpage “ADHD and Co-existing Conditions” 2014
“Antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers have been proven to be effective in treating oppositional defiant disorder and conduct disorder.”
Call them and ask “proven to be effective by who ??” 1 (800) 950-NAMI (6264)
Joseph Biederman was the recipient of the 1998 NAMI Exemplary Psychiatrist award.
Dr. Biederman was the lead author of a trial published concluding that treatment with Risperidone improved symptoms of attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder in bipolar children… Biederman earned at least $1.6 million in consulting fees from drug makers from 2000 to 2007 but failed to report all but about $200,000 of this income to university officials.
Here is the “apology” letter he wrote after him and his pals got busted that doesn’t say “sorry” at all likely on the way to the bank with the $ 1,600,000.00
Hey look the drug companies gave NAMI $ 1,005,000.00 Q2 2014 Grants and Contributions to put statments like anti-psychotics are “effective” for that phony child disorder “oppositional defiance” on the NAMI website to peddle these chemical restraint drugs on children.
That’s it from mental health mafia news today folks !
So rather than call their screening “Wellness at Your Fingertips,” they should be calling it, introduction to a lifetime of pharmaceutical drug induced iatrogenic illness at your fingertips.
Anyone see all the signs outside supermarkets and Walgreens ect for the “Purple pill” ?
Look at the fraud of that stuff NEXIUM http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2012/01/09/why-no-one-should-take-nexium/
This is a better link to the documentary I posted above, don’t forget to copy cat the link all about as you surf the internet. http://redpill.tv/big-bucks-big-pharma-marketing-disease-pushing-drugs/
The evidence from the last 50 years has shown more treatment leads to more disability.
With all these new ‘treatments’ why is the number of disabled people been rising ever since ?
Here is a video I came across that explains much of this in 48 minutes.
“refuse to undergo treatment for anxiety and depression”
The translation is “refuse to ingest mind and body damaging drugs for anxiety and depression”.
Am I correct ?
Disease mongering works.
Big Bucks, Big Pharma pulls back the curtain on the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry to expose the insidious ways that illness is used, manipulated, and in some instances created, for capital gain. Focusing on the industry’s marketing practices, media scholars and health professionals help viewers understand the ways in which direct-to-consumer (DTC) pharmaceutical advertising glamorizes and normalizes the use of prescription medication, and works in tandem with promotion to doctors.
Combined, these industry practices shape how both patients and doctors understand and relate to disease and treatment. Ultimately, Big Bucks, Big Pharma challenges us to ask important questions about the consequences of relying on a for-profit industry for our health and well-being.
Tea party ? We should throw all the DSMs and psych pills into the harbor !
Foster kids are subjected to more mental health screening,
The youngsters are sat down and asked introverting questions such as:
Has there been a time when nothing was fun for you and you just weren’t interested in anything?
Has there been a time when you felt you couldn’t do anything well or that you weren’t as good-looking or as smart as other people?
How often did your parents get annoyed or upset with you because of the way you were feeling or acting?
Have you often felt very nervous when you’ve had to do things in front of people?
Have you often worried a lot before you were going to play a sport or game or do some other activity?
Have you thought seriously about killing yourself?
Have you often thought about killing yourself??
Have you ever tried to kill yourself?
Based on the answers the child gives to the above questions and many more like them he or she is then shuffled off to a “clinician”, who ponders the bogus label to use.
The “clinician” summarizes his or her report and comes up with an “impairment score”.
Based on how the child answered the “screening”, and which label the clinician may have conjured up and how the child did on his “impairment score” the child is then sent off for “treatment”.
That’s pretty much how it goes, I might have left out a few things in the proccess but more “screening” equals more treatment- drugging and foster kids get more screening and there we have it.
Smoking Ban – Putting the Boot into Mental Health Patients
The obvious question is, will it help patients? A third of mental health sufferers and two thirds of schizophrenics smoke but under the government plan, they have to quit or abstain while they are being treated. Is it really a good idea to put this extra unnecessary stress on people already confronting intense personal issues? Although nicotine is physically addictive, it also has a huge psychological dependancy that can make it extremely stressful to quit.
As a smoker I know about the compulsory need to reach for a cigarette regardless of the harms. Kicking nicotine addiction is simply not possible for many including myself especially during a time of stress. I don’t care how many anti-smoking groups or loud vocal nay-sayers harp on, I find it virtually impossible to quit. The idea of quitting whilst dealing with a major issue in my life is even more distant and I am sure this is the same for most long term smokers. And what bigger issue could one have to deal with than going to a psychiatric centre for a mental health problem? I could only imagine one worse scenario than having to deal with a mental health issue at a psychiatric hospital … having to quit smoking as well.
I found this online and copied it here.
To Whom This May Concern,
Well, well what a revolting concept. I agree with Dr Alvaro Manove, who wrote that piece in the SMH, “Stopping Mentally Ill People from Smoking is Cruel”, March 20, 2009.
I speak from personal experience. I am a mentally ill person who has had many admissions into a psychiatric facility in Brisbane, Queensland. I have to say, that we had designated areas within the complex to smoke. Voluntary and involuntary patients had the same liberties.
To think that a severely impaired person, suffering from psychosis for example, could possibly process the withdrawal from nicotine in the name of
“political correctness” is beyond me. You only have to look at a large amount of people trying to give up smoking(which is a choice, mind you) and they, being “normal people” suffer intense headaches, moodiness, agitation, anger, anxiety and grief. I am not saying that all people suffer terrible withdrawal symptoms, but most people I have talked to have wrestled with this addiction like a well-meaning crocodile. Now add that to a severe psychotic episode!!
While someone is in terrible physical and mental anguish do you think that the obvious downside to smoking is really at the forefront of their long-term
well-being? Give me a break! Most patients struggle with what day it is, let alone “Is this cigarette killing me? No, this severe depressive episode is likely to kill me first!!
Let them smoke, for goodness sake! it is cruel and unusual punishment to remove a legal dependancy that provides some relief in this horrendous time. I have also found that smoking is the only vice that recovering alcoholics or drug addicts have. Don’t torture them further by taking away the only thing they feel they have left……..believe me, I have been told by patients that their pouch of tobacco and their tiny blue lighter is all that remains of their life outside.
Send some of those NSW politicians or policy makers in to TALK to patients……..they will see a very different view from their privileged, bigoted, narrow-minded positions. Once they see the anguish and mental torture people go through in a psychiatric facility, they will be compelled beyond their understanding to provide the “cancer stick” that they, in their infinite wisdom, were prepared to deny!!
Trashed a decade of my life too that is.
“I Can’t Sleep” Three words spoken to my doctor began a horrifying decade of psychoactive pills.
The next words were “insomnia is a symptom of depression”.
It kind of went like this, A satirical view of our prescription drug culture by David Antonuccio
and Bill Danton. http://youtu.be/2UnJ4H8JLmM
I can’t sleep turned into Depression , Anxiety, ADHD, Bipolar as these pills were piled on. It trashed a decade of my life.
Anti psychiatry has been around much longer than Scientology.
The first widespread challenge to the prevailing medical approach in Western countries occurred in the late 18th century. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-psychiatry
Pasting anti psychiatry as Scientology is a bit ignorant.
Dude are you going to contribute anything else besides this ?
We really don’t need background check for every post on MIA. Does seem kind of like a witch hunt and you can see from the post below I got distracted and posted off topic.
To much paste above sorry. I just seriously hate liberalism.
I would like to start a business with some of my “mentally ill” friends.
I have lots of idea’s of stuff we could do.
There is little chance we could do a business “legally” with licenses , permit’s, fees, a zillion forms and paperwork’s. I don’t have the ability to jump those hoops or hire lawyers or paralegals to do it for me.
Of course I put legally in quotes cause most gov’t hassles are illegal if you read the constitution.
Those liberal phonies have everyone tricked into blaming “the rich” for their problems.
It makes me sick and makes me waste to much time online messing with it.
ITS LOTS OF FUN !!!
What is Modern American Liberalism ?
The (mistaken) belief that the restriction of Individual Liberty and private property rights can improve society through government efforts to design and manage economic and social structures.
The (mistaken) belief that a mob of men can better manage society than core values that protect the individual and his property and enforcement of laws that ensure equal protection of citizens while limiting government and allowing individuals to protect themselves.
The (mistaken) belief that social safety nets imposed on the populace are more compassionate than allowing the individual freedom to fail (or succeed) from one’s life decisions.
The (mistaken) belief that involuntary re-distribution of wealth is moral.
It is fun.
Liberalism says that….
1) …it’s all about choice — unless you want to choose which gun or lightbulb to use, which school your child will attend, or you’d prefer more freedom and smaller government.
2) …it cares about the environment, when in practice, not only do liberals like Al Gore live some of the most resource-wasting and ostentatious lifestyles on the planet, but they hurt the environment by blocking environmentally friendly energy production here in favor of energy sources from nations that care little about pollution.
3) …you can have lots of free government services and somebody else will pay for them. The trillion dollar deficit we’re running every year that will have to be paid back says otherwise.
…it’s all about compassion and taking care of the less fortunate, unless liberals have their own money on the line, in which case they give less to charity than those stingy, greedy, heartless conservatives.
…it’s going to deliver equality of outcomes for everyone, which is true, if by “delivering equality of outcomes” you mean “make everyone poorer.”
….it’ll help the poor — and it does. Liberalism helps poor Americans live in ghettos with just enough food and money to survive so they can stay dependent on liberals.
…liberals are the only people who care about black Americans and want to help, which doesn’t seem to square with the fact that just about anywhere and everywhere liberals have been in charge for decades, like Detroit or New Orleans, most black Americans are in dire straits.
…you can fix crime by taking away guns, but by definition, the people who will voluntarily give up guns are law abiding citizens who have no intention of committing a crime in the first place.
America was founded by libertarians.
Big government is just a fat waste, most all they do is enrich themselves with the billions of dollars they extort from the people mostly doing “work” consuming office supplies, violating freedoms and peoples lives wile creating nothing useful at all to anyone. You can’t eat or live in a stack of Govt forms and paperwork. It’s just expensive garbage that creates stress in everyone’s lives.
In the USA big govt IS that greedy corporation with police powers on top of it.
This site is dedicated to all the people who were harmed or killed in UHS facilities. http://watchinguhs.wordpress.com/
Why The Tea Party Flocks To Rick Santorum
WASHINGTON — Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) has become a top-tier candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in recent weeks by appealing to evangelical voters as a man steeped in family values and his Christian faith. From 2007 to 2011, however, Santorum served on the board of directors of Universal Health Services Inc., a large hospital chain which racked up dozens of allegations of abuse during that time — including everything from rape to suicide attempts allowed by neglect to murder.
I support freedom not these dirtbags.
I am totally out numbered here so I am pasting more from Dr. Rossiter,
“A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do,” he says. “A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation’s citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do.”
And if you have a gun they want that too ! Liberal Tyrants.
Liberal big government is what gave us big psychiatry.
Psychiatry and liberals both think they know whats best for everyone.
It’s the liberals always pushing for mental health screening in schools.
Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill !
“Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,” says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” “Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2008/11/56494/
I was a Zyprexa victim, thanks Eli- NAMI !
The funding of NAMI by multiple pharmaceutical companies was unwieldy by the investigative magazine Mother Jones in 1999, including that an Eli Lilly & Company executive was then “on loan” to NAMI working out of NAMI headquarters.
You are right, we could do better than this, I would love to see more anti NAMI on MIA instead.
In 2004, NAMI opposed the placement of “black box” warnings on antidepressants determined to cause suicide in under-18 year olds, and in 2006 opposed black box warnings on ADHD drugs causing heart attack, stroke and sudden death in children in 2006. Despite overwhelming evidence of serious adverse cardiac events and sudden deaths caused by ADHD drugs, in 2006 NAMI took the position that the “black box” warning on ADHD drugs was “premature.” Also, on December 18, 2003, The New York Times exposed that NAMI had bused scores of protestors to a hearing in Frankfort, Kentucky, took out full page ads in Kentucky newspapers, and sent angry faxes to state officials, all to protest a state panel proposal to exclude the antipsychotic drug Zyprexa from Medicaid’s list of preferred medications. According to the article, “What the advocacy groups did not say at the time was that the buses, ads and faxes were all paid for” by the manufacturer of the antipsychotic drug Zyprexa, Eli Lilly.
It just gets worse and worse , it looks like “Compass Health Systems” Segal Institute for Clinical Research is like tied in with Universal Health Services.
Ft. Lauderdale Hospital
Palmetto Lowcountry Behavioral Health
This site is dedicated to all the people who were harmed or killed in UHS facilities. They speak for those who have no voice, to protect others from experiencing the pain they endured. http://watchinguhs.wordpress.com/
I was harmed in a UHS hospital and my human rights violated by these POS people who call themselves doctors.
Logic ?? Check this out.
Ritalin (and Adderall) logic: An imaginary conversation
1. What do psychoactive drugs do?
A: They change brain chemistry.
2. Why do you want to change the brain chemistry of small children?
A: Their brain chemistry is flawed.
3. What biologically based test do you use to determine that this is so?
A: We do not use such tests.
4. Why not?
A: There are no valid tests available.
5. How then do you diagnose and prescribe?
A: We use behavioral tests.
6. Are you saying that merely by observing a child’s behavior you can tell exactly what problems he has with his or her brain chemistry and then prescribe the correct substance in the precise dose needed to correct it?
Read more http://www.brasscheck.com/druggingkids/
Parents say their schizophrenic son was killed in ‘cold blood’ by police who were called to help
With patent extension up for grabs, Shire agrees to test Vyvanse in preschoolers
You all have google , I am getting tired.
Segal Institute for Clinical Research + Vyvance
Doctors Put Foster Children at Risk With Mind-Altering Drugs http://abcnews.go.com/Health/doctors-put-foster-children-risk-mind-altering-drugs/story?id=15064560
Hit the pause button right at 3:02 You will see “Compass Health Systems” That’s where they killed 7 year old Gabriel Myers with the drug Symbyax, which is a combination of the generic forms of the anti-depressant Prozac and the anti-psychosis drug Zyprexa
A court order was not obtained to put Gabriel on the drugs…
Scott D. Segal, MD, MBA
President and Co-Founder of Segal Institute for Clinical Research
CEO and Founder of Compass Health Systems http://www.segaltrials.com/
In addition to Symbyax, Gabriel also was on Vyvanse
A South Florida psychiatrist who was treating a 7-year-old foster child before the boy committed suicide last year has received a warning from federal drug regulators who say he failed “to protect the rights, safety and welfare” of children enrolled in clinical drug trials.
In a strongly worded letter dated Feb. 4, regulators at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said Dr. Sohail Punjwani over-medicated children who were enrolled in clinical trials for undisclosed drugs. One girl, the letter said, slashed her wrists while hallucinating.
Another, a 13-year-old, “experienced sedation and dizziness during the study,” the letter said.
The warning letter, a harsh and rare form of discipline by the agency, says Punjwani failed to “adhere to the applicable statutory requirements and FDA regulations governing the conduct of clinical investigations.”
In a trial for one drug that was not identified, Punjwani gave one child dosages “in excess of… specified limits,” the letter says.
“Compass Health Systems” ? More like compass death systems.
Anabolic steroids and police officers
Many more police are adrenalin junkies who can’t control themselves.
Using police for people in crisis is the wrong tool for the job.
The reason I do the ADHD behavior of interrupting and speaking out of turn is that if I politely wait for my turn to speak I know I am going to forget what I was going to say and therefor loose the chance to say it, so sorry for the rudeness but I must interrupt and add my thoughts now. Sorry about that. The behavior is not impulsive, it’s adaptive.
I have practiced holding the thought and waiting for the next person to finish yapping before speaking and have gotten better at it.
ADHD was part of my “diagnosis” but the treatment , getting high on stimulants, is not sustainable long term.
I am going to attract haters from the ADHD world but the truth is stimulants get you way high at the dose that ‘works’ (makes things stick in working memory). I told the lie too “I don’t get high from it, the medication only calms me so I can focus on stuff” Ya right. People with ADHD don’t get a high, NOT !
I am not the biggest fan of the war on drugs , if people want to get high let them if they don’t harm others but I can’t believe the same system that built a police state to fight a war on drugs pushes Ritalin and amphetamines on children. It’s really mind altering shit and it really dose feel similar and I think better than Cocaine. Cocaine you have to keep hitting up every 20 minutes and even less if you smoke it, down some ADHD pills your set for several hours.
The reason they are still giving this stuff to kids is because most lawmakers have never downed a dose themselves and have no clue at all what it’s about.
I did watch the movie limitless on Ritalin , that was fun.
Watch full “Limitless (2011)” movie produced in 2011. Genres are Mystery, Thriller, Sci-Fi.
Homeless man wins $1 million after Bellevue ordeal
What is this great need to study the mind ? I don’t get it, what are we or they after and what are they going to accomplish with it ? Billions and billions spent and for what ?
There is just something wrong here.
Who remembers “Blue Unicorns” ? Those were the best ever.
Top Documentary Films: LSD – A Closer Look At The Favorite Drug of Geniuses
Your post reminds me of what I read about this new thing called “Swatting” .
Swatting refers to the act of knowingly giving authorities false information about bomb threats, the taking of hostages, or similar threats in progress with the goal of tricking heavily armed police to raid the location of an innocent person or group. According to authorities, the unnamed 16-year-old allegedly carried out swatting attacks on 30 targets, including schools in North America that responded with lockdowns or evacuations. The minor was charged with 60 criminal offenses, including public mischief, mischief to property, uttering death threats, and conveying false info with intent to alarm.
NAMI suggests turning over furniture before Swatting a loved one of course.
We should just have fun with this topic because the pharma companies will continue to work with governments to successfully block the legal use of psychedelics for depression and how can pharma make its billions off a natural drug ?
Depressed ? no mushroom meds for you , how about some disabling “Abilify” ?
Andy Behrman, a former spokesman for Abilify and Bristol Myers Squibb, discusses his side effects from Abilify, the “wonder drug” of Bristol Myers Squibb, http://youtu.be/9VzMZX4nBz8
Magic Mushrooms Cured My Depression http://youtu.be/-KvcNVgxKSc
They are experiencing a totally different phenomenon – for me this was the most frightening experience of my entire life…
Wikipedia editors= Pharma
It is torture, read this story that will be lived by many more in LA
“Marion was offered but refused medication. But Bellevue Dr. Robert LaFargue wrote out an order authorizing him to be injected with Haldol, an antipsychotic, and Ativan, a tranquilizer, and stating that, from then on, Marion was to take another drug, Depakote, orally, on threat of injection.
In his testimony, Marion described being strapped down to a gurney, a nurse hovering over him with a needle, then injecting him, “like in ‘The Cuckoo’s Nest,’ ” referring to Ken Kesey’s novel about a psychiatric hospital from hell. Comparing himself to “Louima,” as in police brutality victim Abner Louima, Marion said, “They used a toilet plunger for him and a needle for me.”
“The jury ultimately voted to award Marion $750,000 in damages for being held against his will for six days, $250,000 for being illegally injected with drugs and $1 for having to orally take medication. ”
Most people of course never see a dime no matter how badly psychiatry abuses them.
All I know is that during the months of Zyprexa withdrawal hell that extra hunger it caused rebounded in the other direction into nausea and a total lack of appetite. Nothing like knowing your starving and at the same time being repulsed at the idea of eating.
A Model Consent Form for Psychiatric Drug Treatment
I started watching The Age of Fear http://youtu.be/3hj49xDEXow
Anyway E. Silly , have you ever been subjected to unwanted psychiatry ?
Ever been coerced/forced to take a mind and body altering drug you didn’t want ?
I have and I like how the documentary exposes these practices as “NAZI medicine”.
If it actually was true then how many youths need to be put on drugs to save that one kid from suicide ?
10, 100, 1000, 10000 or maybe 100,000 kids put on the path of psychiatric drugs with awful ‘side’ effects to save just one from suicide.
In The Wrath of Khan (1982), Spock says, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Captain Kirk answers, “Or the one.”
Alcohol is a depressant.
One reason Zyprexa withdrawal leads to insanity is because during withdrawal you CAN NOT sleep, the relax and sleep system just does not work at all and you are stuck awake until you go insane just like any human being that stays awake long enough for any reason.
Then there is this too http://www.google.com/search?q=supersenstivity+psychosis
It is hard to convey to a person who never lived Zyprexa withdrawal how distressing passing though the gates of hell can be.
I have tried to describe the horrors of Zyprexa withdrawal, it’s insanity from hell. When I say “from hell” I mean the real thing.
Intense overwhelming all consuming fear , that’s what hell is. Most people think it’s “fire and brimstone” outside painful stuff like that but no, that is not what hell is.
“He had racing thoughts and was given hot milk and encouraged to go to bed…”
The only relief I got from the hell was pacing back and forth in my house for hours on end wile fearing death, permanent brain damage and vomiting out the back door when needed, that part of the withdrawal went on for weeks.
Have some milk and goto bed ?
Zyprexa is murder.
Someone should do a study on the increase of violence in inpatient psychiatric units that banned smoking. Anyone who has worked or been a patient prisoner
Bad enough getting stripped of all civil and human rights inpatient, now psychiatric inmates have to endure the pain of nicotine withdrawal even though 999 out of 1000 grab a cigarette less than an hour of getting out and start smoking again anyway.
What about those patches and nicotine gum ? Every smoker knows those things have little effect on cravings for a real cigarette and success rates for quitting prove it.
I wonder if anyone will honor my psychiatric living will/advance directive if I ever goto a nursing home.
Modern Psychiatry takes the view that man is nothing more than chemicals and Neurons,that man has no spirit or soul,that belief in God is bad genetics,that the brain is a binary computer…
Modern Psychiatry claims to be experts in something they do not think exists (“psychiatrist” lit. Greek: “doctor of the soul”)
Biopsychiatry views man as a “meat puppet” and a “chemical robot” merely acting out “irresistible impulses” predetermined by DNA and a collection of soups and sparks inside his brain.
It’s almost like the DSM billing bible has become the official state religion, it’s in schools and workplaces , the courts and all over the place.
I will go with this new politically correct spirituality vs religion thing if it helps.
Want to ensure it’s demise ? Focus on stopping them from creating the next generation of mental patients, go after the child druggers first.
Shire to test Vyvance on 4 to 5-year olds in U.S. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/13/us-shire-brief-idUSKBN0EN1GT20140613
Vyvance is not “new and improved” it’s nasty inferior shit they cooked up out of the old Dexedrine to get a new patent. All the focus should be on stopping them from screwing up the next generation with crap like this Vyvance “pro-drug” long lasting to drive you halfway to psychosis and get panic attacks so then you need more drugs to deal with that.
How does a 4 year old benefit from taking this crap ? At first do no harm… Not with psychiatry.
Here is very good non CCHR video people can share.
Arguments, expert opinion and data against the myth of mental illness. From Freedomain Radio, the largest and most popular philosophy show on the web. http://youtu.be/eOScYBwMyAA
It’s 48 minutes long and explains it very well.
RE: “I’m starting to wonder if some posters are working for Big Pharma and trying to distract us from our objectives.”
Pharma does this kind of stuff, if you look on http://www.drugs.com its so easy for anyone who has taken the pills to spot the totally phony reviews for the psych drugs.
This guy is a pharma hack that does reputation management by keeping dirt about pharma off Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edgar181
Maybe the PHARMA FRONT GROUP NAMI is doing this ?
As much as 75 percent of NAMI’s donations come from drug companies says the New York Times and it has been investigated by Congress. http://www.google.com/search?q=nami+pharma+funding
I think it’s starting.
Again during WWII alot of people had different ideas about a NAZI free world but everyone fought them.
All I want from psychiatry is informed consent and the right to refuse it.
I watched the ABC Nightline video you posted and I was not impressed. What are we supposed to do call in DCF to round up all children with parents into Scientology and send them off for mental health screening and then ‘treatment’ if they ‘need’ it ?
Put Scientology kids in foster care to “help” them ?
Invade the Scientology church Waco Texas style cause some kids had to help do some landscaping and people get shunned by their family for leaving ?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…
Psychiatry is a cult.
A dangerous cult. A cult that mugs people, drugs people and imprisons them, trying to hypnotise them into believing in psychiatry by threatening them with higher doses of chemicals if they don’t. They prey on the vulnerable and lure youth in, claiming to cure people of their problems.
Psychiatry has put people in comas, caused epilepsy, Tardive Dyskinesia, depression and suicide.
Something must be done about this cult, it is powerful and dangerous. It has somehow infiltrated the government, such that people can’t even take psychiatrists to court when they’ve been electrocuted by them.
Psychiatrists torture, they mug, they rape (unwanted penetration by needle).
How can it be in 2010 that this cult, funded by the government under the guise of being ‘medical’ can exist? They are not medical, they are a cult. Medical services are what people seek. Medicine is never forced upon a person. Medical practitioners take the Hippocratic oath.
So, this cult thinks it can hide under medicine, because the staff recruited are trained as practitioners. But they should be banned because they break the Hippocratic oath not to cause harm.
This cult even has the power to ask for police assistants in their muggings. It’s outrageous! People are meant to have a charge or a warrant before an arrest, but they don’t because the person hasn’t committed a crime. How are the police getting away with co-operating with known felons?
People see someone getting dragged away by police and they assume some crime has been committed by that person. Isn’t true when police co-operate with psychiatry. The person has probably just said something weird.
People are afraid of people who say weird things because of the scare tactics of psychiatry. Psychiatry labels people who are not in any way a danger to society under the same banner as those that are. Newspapers report the ‘expert’, forgetting that they are part of a cult. Anyone dragged off to psychiatric facilities is labelled a danger to society like those criminals talked about in the newspaper, who had a mental illness.
The fear the population has is that those people who are innocent, may become criminals if untreated.
Why does the populus believe that? Because of newspapers in combination with cult representatives advertising their products.
The chemicals they force on people are addictive, in that the withdrawal symptoms are acute. They give high doses of these addictive chemicals immediately upon incarcerating a person, they then label an involuntary patient.
The person made into a patient is embarrassed about being in a psychiatric facility. They rarely tell their friends. They are therefore alone.
Psychiatry has their own court system. There are three judges: a psychiatrist, a case-worker, and a lawyer. They will only let the person go if the person says: ‘Yes I agree I have a mental illness and I will keep taking the medication and attending appointments.’
And you have to say it like you meant it, because they want to be certain you are fully hypnotised and compliant with their wishes, so that you will go about spouting ‘the greatness that is psychiatry’. Don’t be fooled by people who give up fighting and become compliant with this cult. It takes a lot of effort to fight such a powerful dangerous money making organisation.
Last night I read about half of “Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work” , a book by industrial psychologist Paul Babiak and psychopathy expert Robert D. Hare
It was very interesting, read online PDF http://www.mtpinnacle.com/pdfs/psycophaths-at-work.pdf
Check it out Psychopath Sidney Taurel , the former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Eli Lilly and Company to retire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYzyJyVdf4c
This Sidney Taurel dude should be in prison for life for the Zyprexa crimes.
I have seen this retractionwatch online before,
Authors retract paper claiming antidepressants prevent suicide http://retractionwatch.com/2012/03/19/author-retracts-paper-claiming-antidepressants-prevent-suicide/
I am not a phony, I post all the time how I think ADHD drugs are a much better high than cocaine on the threads about ADHD because I have done both.
Some people would dismiss the opinion of a ‘druggie’ like me but at least I am not a phony.
My rant on phonies and posers is over, Thanks.
It’s a shame that so many ‘normies’ in the field are such judgmental phonies with personalities based on fakeness. I guess that’s me being judgmental too but what ever, phonies piss me off.
Example of this is giving ‘mood stabilizers’ mood removers to people in early recovery because it looks good on paper, treat the ‘dual diagnosis’… Since they never lived alcohol and drug addiction they never consider and ignore the number one complaint recovering people have, “nothing seems fun sober” and then they make the problem worse by prescribing brain disabling drugs that make the nothing seems fun problem worse ! And then the normies sit their all bewildered when the client goes out and drinks and uses for ‘fun’ weeks or months later and/or blame the so called ‘mood disorder’ for the relapse and start contemplating what brain disabling drug to try this time .
No lived experience ? Nice books you read but step aside please.
The ‘normies’ should step aside and let people who have lived it take the lead cause most normies really can’t know better than people who lived it no matter how much education they have.
In the addictions field most clients don’t respect people without lived experience. They are not one of us and how can they help if they don’t know what it’s like ? Stuff like that.
Ritalin feels alot more like Cocaine than the amphetamines, its a “dumber” high.
A scientologist NEVER said to me take these pills or we are going to inject you…
GTFO with this Scientology thing already.
Why should I care about this Scientology issue ? That’s what I can’t figure out.
Although relations between the Soviet Union and the United States had been strained in the years before World War II, the U.S.-Soviet alliance of 1941–1945 was marked by a great degree of cooperation and was essential to securing the defeat of Nazi Germany.
Psychiatry ruined years of my life and almost killed me and Scientology attacks them all the time.
I don’t see any problem at all. A scientologist NEVER handed me a Zyprexa sample bottle and said “don’t worry it’s safe”. http://www.zyprexa-victims.com
Wait a minute did I miss the idea behind the post with all the links on psychopaths ?
Creating all-pervasive surveillance systems for diagnosing ‘pre-crime’… in kids.
Is this system also “psychopath detector” too ? This is to much for me, later.
Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakes_in_Suits That explains it.
It would explain this too, Testing Paxil on 7 year olds.
They know that Paxil stuff is downright nasty and produces suicidal thinking and hellish withdrawals but like you said they have no conscience, empathy, compassion or guilt, which allows them to act as intraspecies predators on normal humans.
Now I understand why this stuff goes on. Kinda scary.
RE: “psychopaths or evil people with no conscience”
Clinical psychopaths, that would explain the behavior of Eli-Lilly and the Zyprexa scandle. http://www.google.com/search?q=+zyprexa+scandle
What else would explain Eli-Lilly execs shameless cold blooded murder and injury of thousands of people simply to make a profit ? They knew damb well what they were doing and didn’t care.
No conscience, empathy, compassion or guilt, which allows them to act as intraspecies predators on normal humans. It makes perfect sense.
I always call unwanted injections rape as it’s the best word to describe the body violation.
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Anyway, I know Connecticut , it’s one of those crappy places where you live 3 houses away from someone for 15 years and never meet them till maybe a freak storm knocks the lights out and people come outside. Who was that Lanza boy ?
Before I lived the psychiatric nightmare, I would have believed it too. There is a “crisis” and children need “care”… We gotta dooo something now !
The Article States: Some people have advised her to take more drastic action to get Peter the mental health care he needs.
“The mental health care he needs.” How is the average person to know that statement means getting abused and drugged into zombie useless oblivion ?
Does the public’s vocabulary include the words akathisia, supersensitivity psychosis or neuroleptic withdrawal syndrome ?
I watched that movie ‘Limitless’ high on Ritalin http://youtu.be/tv7sP_IFhFs
I took 40mg and was like “I feel it too!” but by the end of the movie I felt paranoid and had to use the bathroom but I didn’t want to get up and have to ask people to move to get to it.
After it becomes a way of life many find later on that up and down with street drugs is ‘better’ than up and down with junk like Conserta and Catapres.
Conserta is alright if you break it open with a pill cutter and get at the core, it’s better than cocaine I think and no need to snort it.
Start saving money so he can goto a nice drug treatment center cause most young people in them got addicted ‘spell bound’ starting with psychiatry and the ADHD drugs.
Don’t believe me ? Then goto a 12 step meeting and ask the young addicts about it, you will see how child psychiatry is a part of most of their stories.
That long acting part creates a need for a second drug and those scum know that too.
Want to do a study on long term results of ADHD drugs ?
Start by looking at the psychiatric histories of young people 18-25 checking into drug and alcohol treatment centers. It starts with one of the best highs out there, stimulants for ADHD.
Meanwhile, ADHD Drug To Be Tested On Four-Year-Olds | The Fix
Testing Vyvance on 4 year olds, that horrible inferior crap with the flawed ‘long acting’ delivery system they call ‘new and improved’ just for a new patent to make big bucks. The ‘long acting’ part is only the insomnia, no appetite, anxiety and psychosis and they already know that. Those pharma scum have no soul and they likely know that too.
Wow, Captain Obvious wrote this one.
Ya, every visit of mine was a result of those drugs just like almost everyone in the place with me. I was NEVER EVER in an E.R or psych ward before falling for the low serotonin scam and taking those first pills that lead to more.
The problem is those ‘medications’ fry your memory and like me many people forget what they were like before taking them and continue to believe everything will be alright when you ‘find the right meds’ instead of recognizing its the ‘meds’ themselves that are destroying them.
Of course ‘doctors’ never every ask patients what they were like before ever taking ‘meds’, no way, instead they just throw the stronger more dangerous ones at them.
Why do I bother posting comments on a story like this ? My psychiatric ‘SSRI story’ includes suicidal thinking caused by those brain fry drugs and a police SWAT team too but I lived to tell about it and fight back.
This shooting occurred on the school campus on October 21, 2013
Sparks Middle School shooter had Prozac in system day of shooting.
Reyes was told to take 10 milligrams of Prozac once daily to treat his symptoms of a depressive disorder. That was based on what his doctor noted of feelings of inadequacy in his family and meeting family expectations. Reyes also told the therapist he was being teased at school and specifically spoke about being called “gay” and being teased about “peeing” his pants. According to the police report, Reyes took the prescribed amount of Prozac on Saturday, Sunday, and on the day of the shooting. http://www.mynews4.com/mostpopular/story/Sparks-Middle-School-shooter-had-Prozac-in-system/r91KftZlokuD-Suf7ks6_A.cspx
Go ahead Connecticut and put more kids on drugs, I will just sit here watch your problems get worse and worse and worse and worse. There is just no other possible outcome. These drugs usually make people more unstable and cause the condition to become chronic. Eventually you will learn from your mistakes.
Albert Einstein — ‘Problems cannot be solved with the same mind set that created them.’
If anyone cared about traffic safety they would stop texting , screwing with their phone and get all that pointless crap on the rear view mirror taken down.
Slower drivers should consider the right lane once in a wile too.
That morning blood pressure check it just a cheap way around a hospital patients right to undisturbed rest.
I guess maybe it does “amaze” them because it always amazed me how they rudely forced people in the psych hospital to wake up early in the morning and stand in line for blood pressure checks.
That run away insomnia, caused by many different reasons, brings alot of people into the hospital so why the hell wake them up when they are finally sleeping (healing) ?
They already tried “deep sleep narcosis” http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/the-big-sleep-20130408-2hfq6.html
That’s what I was going to say, thanks Capt Obvious !
I did the ADHD treatment thing and was high on Dexadrine and Adderal for years and looking back the treatment was only effective in the very beginning then I needed the stuff just to function at the level I was before.
I can do this online activism thing just fine without Adderal cause I am into it, the schools got the problem not the students.
Anyway check it out, a clip from the 1998 NIH consensus conference http://youtu.be/MKZXH7MOwjI
All a parent needs to do is adjust for body weight and take the childs dose and they will be like WTF ? I am not giving THIS to my kid ! but I might want so more of these.
They say that alcoholism and these so called mental disorders are genetic and runs in families but doesn’t being Democrat or Republican and left or right political thinking also run in families ?
Also listen to any good political argument and sooner or later one side will claim the other lacks insight and has broken thinking.
Exposing unborn children to these chemicals that life has never before encountered over vast eons of time can’t possibly be a good thing.
Look how sick healthy adults get when they try and stop taking these SSRI drugs the industry has the audacity to call “non addictive”.
But the mother is depressed… Not to depressed to get pregnant obviously.
“The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.”
― George Orwell, 1984
What else do today’s kids know ? Today I went to school like every other day, I went through the metal detectors and they x-rayed my book bag and then I was called to the school psychologists office for the mental health screenings they do. So what ? That’s the way school “always” is.
This fight oppression talk will likely change nothing , parents need to know the expansion of psychological screening and electronic surveillance of children and youth is really just a scam for the psychiatric-pharmacuitical industry to create a new class of chronic mental patients. That’s why pharma is always funding these customer dragnets.
We need a law requiring written informed consent to treatment , I found this model consent form online.
Maybe word could be spread to students using social media about all this mental health profiling and electronic record keeping.
I maintain my right not to have any psychiatric evaluation or diagnosis based upon the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) as such diagnoses are unreliable. According to Allen Frances, who was chairman of the fourth edition of DSM, “There are no objective tests in psychiatry—no X-ray, laboratory, or exam finding that says definitely that someone does or does not have a mental disorder.” Additionally, the DSM system is not scientific. It’s own editors state that “there is no assumption that each category of mental disorder is a completely discrete entity with absolute boundaries dividing it from other mental disorders or from no mental disorder.” (DSM-IV, pg. xxii)
Such codes and descriptions should not be entered into my medical records as this unreliable and unscientific information will remain in my records and may wrongly influence any future medical treatment I might receive.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Appalachian Behavioral Healthcare is a non-smoking facility. Found that out looking online for a photo of this place. Reading about this “hospital” had me wondering how difficult it would be commit suicide in this place ?
No cigarettes , surely no coffee, neuroleptics, does this nightmare also include gender segregation?
But what about my “Low T” surely pharma can empower me to keep up with the 22 year olds in the gym. It’s total bull my bench is stuck at 180 and these kids put up 275 like its nothing and they started 6 months ago @ 145 !
I met a guy that messed with that Androgel and messed him all up in all sorts of ways. I did like that T.V ad for Androgel with all the cranes lifting stuff and the big strong old dudes walking around.
Wile posing as the watchdogs of society the media is a for profit industry in it for the bucks and their is billions of them.
Why can’t they just let kids be kids ?
My adult job is actually easier than going to school ever was, getting up real early in the morning and then having homework assignments to stress over and tests tests and more tests. Test on Friday, and those state tests that if you screw it up no college and life is ruined…
If I smoke some meth to work harder as an adult I am an addict, but if I take Vyvance as a kid it’s medical treatment ? WTF !
If I get pissed off at work and toss my desk I will need to find a new job, If a kid gets pissed at school and tosses a desk they goto the school psychologist and before long has a ‘mood disorder’ and get put on drugs !
This is just wrong already.
Anti depressants will never work, as pointed on the Star Trek episode This Side Of Paradise
“Happiness Comes From Struggle ” http://youtu.be/19o4IhxifNw
Why is Scientology opposed to psychiatric abuses?
As the stepchildren of the German dictator Bismarck and later Hitler and the Nazis, psychiatry and psychology formed the philosophical basis for the wholesale slaughter of human beings in World Wars I and II. Psychiatry uses electric shock, brain-mutilating psychosurgery and mind-damaging drugs to destroy a person and make him “docile and quiet” in the name of “treatment.”
Psychiatric methods involving the butchering of human beings and their sanity are condemned by the Church. Scientologists are trying to create a world without war, insanity and criminality. Psychiatry is seeking to create a world where man is reduced to a robotized or drugged, vegetable-like state so that he can be controlled.
Scientologists do not believe that psychiatrists should tell their patients what they think is wrong with them. This interjects lies or ideas which are not true for the individual himself, thereby violating his basic integrity. Scientologists believe that one should find out for himself the source of his troubles since this gives him the ability to improve conditions in his own life and environment.
Scientology and psychiatry will always be working at cross-purposes. Scientology is a religion and recognizes that man is a spiritual being. Psychiatrists view man as an animal. Psychiatry is strongly opposed to all religions as it does not even recognize that man is a spiritual being.
Scientologists disagree with the enforced and harmful psychiatric methods of involuntary commitment, forced and heavy drugging, electroconvulsive shock treatment, lobotomy and other psychosurgical operations.
By the Creed of the Church of Scientology, the healing of mentally caused ills should not be condoned in nonreligious fields. The reason for this is that violent psychiatric therapies cause spiritual trauma. At best, psychiatry suppresses life’s problems; at worst, it causes severe damage, irreversible setbacks in a person’s life and even death.
source of this http://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part12/Chp36/pg0670-b.html?locale=en_US
This isn’t very nice but look what happened to Rick Warren after he let NAMI run the church.
Re: I think that psychiatry unconsciously KNOWS it is a religion and can’t allow there to be competing dogma, since there is no actual scientific or rational basis for their belief system.
The DSM-5 is the Atheist’s Moral Code, the psychiatrist’s Bible http://youtu.be/10ZVZbm9e7c Check it out.
I can sort of chuck a pie in their face right from here sort of by putting up links on the google index by using the right keywords.
I see the anti big brother comments all over the web on news reports and stuff. We could also point out that psychiatry is an arm of “Big Brother” with that electronic medical record thing growing by the day and how “they” are building a database of “mental defectives” and stuff like that.
Off label Zyprexa almost killed me but pharma criminals never go to prison for breaking the law.
The authors have analyzed the religious figures Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and St. Paul from a behavioral, neurologic, and neuropsychiatric perspective to determine whether new insights can be achieved about the nature of their revelations. Analysis reveals that these individuals had experiences that resemble those now defined as psychotic symptoms, suggesting that their experiences may have been manifestations of primary or mood disorder-associated psychotic disorders. The rationale for this proposal is discussed in each case with a differential diagnosis. Limitations inherent to a retrospective diagnostic examination are assessed. Social models of psychopathology and group dynamics are proposed as explanations for how followers were attracted and new belief systems emerged and were perpetuated. The authors suggest a new DSM diagnostic subcategory as a way to distinguish this type of psychiatric presentation. These findings support the possibility that persons with primary and mood disorder-associated psychotic symptoms have had a monumental influence on the shaping of Western civilization. It is hoped that these findings will translate into increased compassion and understanding for persons living with mental illness.
Or it is hoped that these findings will translate into increased belief in the DSM billing bible in the process of bashing the real one ?
Scientology never attacked christian churchs with blasphemy but psychiatry does.
Sept. 2012: “Jesus’ experiences can be potentially conceptualized within the framework of Paranoid Schizophrenia or Psychosis NOS. Other reasonable possibilities might include bipolar and schizoaffective disorders. … hyperreligiosity … Suicide-by-proxy is described as “any incident in which a suicidal individual causes his or her death to be carried out by another person. … a Supraphrenic” (The Role of Psychotic Disorders in Religious History Considered, Evan D. Murray, M.D. Miles G. Cunningham, M.D., Ph.D. Bruce H. Price, M.D., The Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neurosciences 2012; 24:410-426)
In the late 1800s, psychiatrists first sought to replace religion with their “soulless science.” Today the assault on religion continues with devastating effects.
Call me selfish but I wouldn’t do the psych med nightmare again to save the next guy from suicide.
My question for Christine Lu would be; if psychiatric drugs really do prevent suicides how many young people do we need to start down the path of lifetime of psychiatric drug taking and disability to save that one young person from suicide ?
10, 100, 1000, 10,000 ?
Parents are being mislead by a multi billion-dollar a year child drugging industry that a diagnoses of “mental disorder” (ADHD, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety Disorder) are medical diseases or illnesses. This is a fraud. No child has a brain scan, blood test, X-Ray or any evidence of physical abnormality to verify they are “ill” or “diseased.”
Yet websites like teenmentalhealth.org continue to pound the public with misleading and fraudulent statements that these so called mental disorders are biochemical or neurological conditions. That is totally false. They are simply a list of behaviors that psychiatrists vote into existence and insert into their billing bible, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
It’s dishonesty and it’s all over that teenmentalhealth.org website with those pictures of brains and all that trickery to deceive people into thinking they ‘need’ expensive dangerous drugs to fix something medical. I fell for that scam cause it works and then those “medications” almost killed me.
I found some phone numbers on the teenmentalhealth.org website.
Faten Alshazly Public Affairs Advisor 902-470-6582
Mitch Shea Communications Coordinator 902-470-8444
I think I should call these numbers and tell these people about the study below and how sick I got after falling for the serotonin scam and taking psychiatric drugs.
“In 11 placebo-controlled studies of the treatment of acute manic episode, including 1,506 patients (117 person-years) in the combined active compound group and 1,005 patients (71 person-years) in the combined placebo group, no suicides and no suicide attempts occurred. In four placebo-controlled studies of the prevention of manic/depressive episode, including 943 patients (406 person-years) in the combined active compound group and 418 patients (136 person-years) in the combined placebo group, two suicides (493/100,000 person-years of exposure) and eight suicide attempts (1,969/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the combined active compound group, but no suicides and two suicide attempts (1,467/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the combined placebo group.”
Seem that taking those drugs for that “just right mood” described in the article are likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo or no treatment !!!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
They wont ask that cause it will upset the pharma sponsors. See http://redpill.tv/big-bucks-big-pharma-marketing-disease-pushing-drugs
Exploiting Newtown was a failure , it only resulted in more people learning the ugly truth about psychiatry and at the six-month anniversary of Newtown shooting and Smith & Wesson gun sales hit an all-time high in the year after the shooting.
I should really try harder to avoid the online gun debate and focus the time I donate to furthering human rights and truth in mental health.
Smashing in doors and snatching children from parents to drug them is a symptom of a mentally ill society.
Foster Kids Prescribed Psychotropic Drugs
Part 1: Children reveal painful memories of neglect, heavy duty drug treatments.
Forgot source link http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm
The people need guns to defend against tyrants . The founding fathers knew that.
That’s absurd, there are no tyrants… Govt is helpful and benign…
Don’t Drug my Child or I’ll Shoot!
Aug. 30, 2011 – 4:00 – Detroit mother Maryanne Godbaldo is cleared of criminal charges related to her effort to prevent Child Services from physically taking her child from her to force the child to take Risperdal.
Godboldo was involved in a standoff March 24 when Child Protective Services authorities and Detroit Police came to remove the 13-year-old girl from the home. Authorities said she fired a handgun when police tried to kick open a door into the kitchen of the home on Blaine.
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
From a page on TMS,
” The circuitry used to generate the magnetic field pulses is usually based on a capacitor discharge system (shown in its simplest form in figure 4) with typical peak coil currents in the range of several kiloamps and discharge voltages of up to a few kilo volts. The relatively high voltage is required to give the required rapid rise of current into the inductance of the stimulating coil.”
“Several Kilo amps and discharge voltages of up to a few kilo volts” That’s big-time energy levels.
Here on youtube you can see hobbiests playing with the ” inductance of the stimulating coil” crushing cans and destroying things.
Capacitor Bank #64 – Can Crushing With Three Different Coils
You don’t want to put your head in this thing no matter how “benign”, “safe” , “scientific” or “medical” the psychiatric industry will try and trick you into thinking it is.
Capacitor Bank #26 – Clearing A Calculator With A Can Crushing coil
Do all the electrical math, call the device a can crusher or “transcranial magnetic stimulation” its the same thing.
I am not done yet it gets so much better going from that life dependent on all these pills to feel right or drinking , isolated more and more my world got smaller and smaller along with any hope of ever being happy wishing to just be dead, panic attacks every morning and insomnia from hell every night over and over that was my life.
I have a whole new life now, better than I ever thought I would get a chance at and I credit first anti psychiatry and second Alcoholics Anonymous.
Oh ya it gets better, the first book I read that changed everything was The Myth Of The Chemical Cure and maybe it was a God think because about the same time I met someone who told me about Mindfreedom Int. I remember reading that book and being like WTF ! this is how psychiatry really works ? Ya, thats how it really works. I was one of those “experts” who knew the difference between a so called SSRI and SNRI and that nonsense. I read that book and was told about Mindfreedom in jail and also in there I came off Clonopin hard in the jail psych ward and during withdrawal became thoroughly convinced I had actually died in this bad car wreck and that place was hell. I started to come out of the psychosis when I finally slept after about a week. It was horrible cause there were a few real dirty scumbags in the ward hiding faking cause they were such scum and weren’t safe in general population and had problems with them and then there was the SPAs “suicide prevention aids” who acted like cops. Nightmare. I got “sane” and got the hell out of there and it was so great rolling up and looking back at those scum hiding in there and going “later” and smiling.
The sadistic SPA I came across again working in the kitchen and I put some of that jell the exterminators put in the corners of the place for the roaches in his drink when he turned his back but the POS never got sick and then I ended up loosing my kitchen job cause I went at him with the broom to take his head off but he ran. I would have lost my good time but I wasn’t thinking.
But ya , it does get better no matter what path you take as long as the end result is getting better.
“Minimum size standards” are the terrocrats completely out of their minds ?
Oh no ! My house is to small and the terrocrats declared its “illegal” gee thanks now I am homeless.
Uploaded on Aug 22, 2010
“In a town where the median home price is over half a million dollars, Jenine Alexander decided to build her own. Using resources like the tiny house blogs and the 1950 bestselling DIY book “Your Dream Home: How to Build It for Less Than $3,500″ (a gift from a friend), Jenine spent less than $3,500 on her home. In fact, she used nearly only materials recovered from the dump or found on craigslist and the only things she paid for were a used trailer and fasteners (nails, screws, hinges, etc).
She built it on wheels not just to get around minimum size standards, but mostly because she couldn’t afford land in her hometown of Healdsburg, California.”
This is relevant and I like it,
In fact, tiny house villages are even being tested as solutions to homelessness. Within the tiny house movement, there’s a contingent who are taking the simplicity, sustainability and freedom of tiny houses to the next level by building their tiny homes off the power grid.”
Their are so many people that just cant do the pay rent or mortgage slavery , some people call that “mental illness” I disagree. The word disability is better but just a way of saying some people have better skills than others at some defined things.
The tiny house and off grid movement seems to be at odds with the way the social engineers of the world want us to live. It’s like they don’t want people off the grid free of slavery, Cape Coral Fl kicked out of her PAID-FOR house because she has been living off the grid! http://youtu.be/zVSPeHJmbAI In Canada, Off Grid Cabins Ordered Destroyed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQeqiDjDfgc
Nice one !
I never used that e-mail and forgot the password , oops. Hey look a rabbit over there, see it ?
Psychiatry is not the tool that’s going to rid the world of evil, I think its bringing us more and itself is evil , there is something incredibly wrong with the size and scope of psychiatry in the world today, maybe it’s that false God many religions warn of.
Adam Lanza and mental illness… STFU !!! If the guy just had the right meds… none of this would have ever happened. Evil is Evil and that Lanza dude was evil or possessed by evil or what ever, what happened was evil. That’s what evil is.
I found this online “Evil has always been here” http://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/evil-has-always-been-here/
Maybe it was the comment about those who disagree with me got this deleted, saw that but post was clicked no take back.
Seriously going to play that way, cheat and edit out such a good pro gun point ? that’s not moderating, that’s cheating.
I think it’s all marketing cause I was given Zyprexa for insomnia instead of a much much better choice of an off label drug to sleep Seroquel. This was before the Zyprexa scandal hit the news. The doctors learn from the drug reps and have I would guess have mostly never taken the stuff so besides patent reports so how would they even know what they do ?
Thanks, good information to make informed choices. That’s what I say.
Is that really to much to ask ?
I took ADHD drugs for a long time, the effective dose gives a nice euphoric anxiety free high that can last a few hours if you do it right. Eat before, don’t smoke cigarettes and ruin it early. ADHD drugs are not really that “abusable” cause the focus IS the high, you can’t take less and just to focus and not be high, it doesn’t work that way, and taking say triple the amount needed to focus doesn’t really get you much “higher”, there is a ceiling. Cocaine , an inferior high IMO, can really be pushed.
Doing this every day, the ADHD stimulant high, the anxious crash, high- crash every day, day after day , week after week, year in and out, High and then crash and not high, can’t wait to be high, high then not high, can’t wait to be high, high, crash then not high, over and over again… and again.
Of course these kids are getting anxiety problems just like I did from this stuff.
Anxiety, the main reason I stopped messing with the ADHD treatment thing.
Your welcome ,
and it’s fun spreading this information !
What ever biological psychiatry is it’s out of control, MOST people I know take Pysch-Drugs, > 50%
It’s just unnecessary and not right. Drugs have their uses but whats going on is FUBAR ! They, like I couldn’t for years , can’t see they are being robbed. Getting “put on meds” is a robbery I will have to say in most cases. Lying to make a sale is like a theft of sorts and lying is how biological psychiatry sells it’s services most of the time. It’s FUBAR.
I think the tipping point is not near, I think its here. I am always looking for stuff to “copy cat” link toand spread the word and I am finding more and more truth online.
I agree we need to keep telling our stories, there is alot of material pointing out the phony science compared to the number of stories of human rights violations.
This site is dedicated to all the people who were harmed or killed in UHS facilities. They speak for those who have no voice, to protect others from experiencing the pain they endured. http://watchinguhs.wordpress.com/about/
I hate to admit but my story of UHS abuse is still not on here, I hate UHS.
RE: ” If you happen to be homeless, then you brought this upon yourself or were somehow just not good enough to compete with others who did manage to find domiciles. ”
Many people are just BUILDING instead of “finding” !
What are Tiny Houses and The Tiny House Movement? It’s people who are sick of being ripped off by the government and financial institutions ! The banks don’t like it and the government, with it’s frivolous zoning laws and property taxes always on the attack, hates the Tiny House Movement it too, but for many it is all about FREEDOM. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Tiny houses , You Tube http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tiny+houses+off+grid
Tiny houses are freedom and independence. Happy July 4th !
Happy Forth Of July !
Eugene, I loved that first part pointing out the use of therapeutic state words !
Check this out, I just found it. It’s a little rough but totally cool.
Report #TL07A: THE ANATOMY OF SLAVESPEAK
Benefits of Understanding Slavespeak
Once you understand political Slavespeak (the language used to establish and maintain master-slave relationships), you become very aware of how those who don’t understand Slavespeak can be dominated, subjugated, and controlled by words — essentially enslaved by words. Correspondingly, you become impervious to external control through words. In other words, you enjoy more freedom — you have more options available to you.
If you’re active in promoting freedom, you’ll see that most current freedom-promoting activities, while they may yield short-term benefits, are unlikely to bring about any significant expansion of freedom in the long term. The reason for this is that the most basic way tyrants and terrocrats wield their power is a “control-via-words” mechanism. Most current freedom-promoting activities don’t attack this basic mechanism; in fact, they tend to reinforce and perpetuate it.
There is a discussion about psychiatric diagnosis removal here http://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/removing-psychiatric-diagnosis-from-medical-records-how-do-i-do-this/
I wonder if libel / slander laws could be used as an angle to sue to get them removed since their is no physical evidence of any disease or illness. I am going to add this idea to the thread posted above.
The scumbag who blocked my IP on wikipedia
I am a medicinal chemist with a PhD in organic chemistry. I have worked in both academic and industrial settings doing teaching, basic research and applied research mostly in the area of drug discovery. I try to improve Wikipedia by creating, updating, correcting, organizing, and copyediting articles related to organic chemistry, particularly heterocyclic compounds and natural organic compounds. To get a better idea of my interests, just take a look at some of the articles I have started or this gallery of some of the ~5000 chemical structure images I have uploaded, or see my contributions.
As a Wikipedia administrator, the chores that I routinely assist with include speedy deletions, always beginning with the attack articles, and blocking those who abuse their editing privileges.
With my wife and kids, I live in suburban Pennsylvania.”
POS pharma hack !
Someone Else, I replied to this post about wiki further down.
Pharmaceutical marketing on Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:17 pm http://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic110729.html
Medical “mistakes” are NOT a problem of the past, so perhaps that’s why they changed the terminology to “effect”? But not sure why the article stopped warning of the psychiatric industries’ historic role in the “controversial” iatrogenesis process.”
Pharma has it’s hired team of marketers on working on Wikipedia articles , my wiki additions repeatedly got deleted and I was very careful to add facts and not opinions.
look at this,
“Perhaps owing to its mechanism of action relating to dopamine receptors, there is some evidence to suggest that aripiprazole blocks cocaine-seeking behavior in animal models without significantly affecting other rewarding behaviors (such as food self-administration)”
There was a study I saw on MIA negating this , I added this to wiki and it was removed.
Antipsychotics Ineffective Against Cocaine, Stimulant Addictions
That’s pharma watching there back end.
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No, Having lived the psychiatric nightmare I was just trying to explain the thinking of many psychiatric prisoners being “helped”.
I didn’t have a computer access in that UHS hellhole.
April 26, 2012 /PRNewswire/ — Universal Health Services, Inc. (NYSE: UHS) announced that its reported net income attributable to UHS was $128.6 million, or $1.31 per diluted share, during the first quarter of 2012 but UHS PSYCH-PRISONER TELEPHONES WERE FOR LOCAL CALLS ONLY !! I was like who the F even uses the antiquated term “long distance call” anymore??? Are you kidding me !!
UHS makes like a billion a year and makes its victims call collect.I had to call my family collect after foolishly seeking “help” and getting kidnapped by those dirty bastards. I hate UHS.
RE “At least that would be honest.” Honesty from the mental health industry ? Ya sure, LOL ! look at their track record !!!! Honesty from the mental health industry? Maybe someday dogs will stop peeing on fire hydrants too !
It’s just the best when watching a movie and my favorite character unleashes that diabolical weapon to rain death, destruction, pain and suffering on the enemy, the antagonist the story convinced me to hate. It makes me feel alive !!!! Damb I just spilled my popcorn, 8 bucks for pop corn SOB ! but I can’t wait till this is on DVD so I can get this that feeeling again by watching it.
Movie Body Counts tallies the actual, visible “on screen kills/deaths/bodies” of your favorite action, sci/fi, and war films. http://www.moviebodycounts.com/
Lets point to the biggest elephant in the room.
By age 18, a U.S. youth will have seen 16,000 simulated murders and 200,000 acts of violence. (on television)
– American Psychiatric Association
A Columbus principal suspended a student for three days last week after the child pointed a “lookalike firearm” at another student in class and pretended to shoot.
The boy’s age? 10. The “level 2 lookalike firearm” cited in his suspension letter? His finger.
Read more http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/04/student-points-finger-like-gun_n_4895507.html
RE: Apparently the psychiatric community has always been in charge of covering up easily recognized iatrogenesis.
I like that word “Iatrogenesis” ! or iatrogenic effect a Greek term, meaning “sickness brought forth by the healer” is any consequence of medical treatment or advice to a patient.
Part of my story is Zyprexa, http://www.zyprexa-victims.com
I got sicker than all hell coming off that stuff, it was given to me after the drugs before it screwed me up, the withdrawal GIVES you all the symptoms of schizoaffective disorder plus panic attacks and never ending insomnia that has no other possible outcome that frightening psychosis from the very center of hell unless you take more or find a strong drug to induce sleep.
No matter how sick any doctor got me the next one seemed to view it as “honest regrettable mistakes” or something like that. Never ever NOT ONCE was I asked what I was like BEFORE falling for the multi billion dollar low serotonin marketing scam and taking those first pills to investigate if I was suffering from iatrogenesis .
Patient starts with complaint of insomnia otherwise alright then a few years and a few thousand pills later “has” schizoaffective disorder.
and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America…
I am reading this now, what a crock ! People experiencing psychosis don’t know they are ill ?
Bullshit ! I was accused of this. You know damb well your tripping, torn to hell emotionally and spirituality during a crisis and the so called treatment does nothing but disable the crap out of you causing MORE distress as you try and try sort it all out !
Using the same logic these people would strap a backpack full of concrete blocks on a person having trouble climbing stairs.
This is not good, I really screwed up and I am in a psychiatric hospital, I need to think about how I am going to do life and solve my problems but if I don’t take these pills that disable my mind and thinking, feel toxic to my body they may carry out the injection threats they made at me. This sucks I wanted help and now things just go from bad to worse, help- one more crappy thing to endure, one more shitty thing that happened to me, and why do they even call this help? When this hell when this over this is the last time I every go near psychiatry if I can help it.
What the hell is wrong with these NAMI advocates ? They are the ones with anosognosia ! They want all there loved ones helped but refuse to acknowledge and seem totally unaware of how abusive and ineffective this “help” is. Seems to me if they had any awareness at all they would be on the front lines of fighting human rights abuses by psychiatry so “loved ones” would go and get help without force.
Hey loved one would you like some “help” ? How about a strip search, some locked doors and pills and drugs coerced down your throat with the threats of a forced injection “needle rape” ?
No thanks, I think I will just keep going back and forth to the liquor store, buy some street drugs or just find a quicker way to kill myself. I got help once before, so again no thanks on the help.
Maybe we can call it the “teaching people in crisis to avoid help act”
Are Persons with Mental Illness More Likely to be Violent?
Not until you force ‘care’ on them with things such as strip searches including squat and cough to thoroughly dehumanize during civil rights removal process, take away their cigarettes in time of crisis (Got to love the new non smoking policies and the logic behind that) , violate human rights by violating bodily integrity by forcing and coercing people with violence ‘needle rape’ to ingest unwanted drugs.
I went into “care” voluntarily for help with severe anxiety made worse by drinking and by the time the “process” was half over all I wanted was to beat the piss out of everyone working in that hospital, pee in there gas tanks, pop their tires ect ect. Feelings I did not have before.
They should call the new law “helping families get hated by their loved ones Act” : )
Sorry about your arachnophobia, nothing we can do. Those spiders are for your “safety”, its all about safety, they eat bugs like cockroaches that have many negative consequences for human health because certain proteins (called allergens) found in cockroach feces, saliva and body parts can cause allergic reactions or trigger asthma symptoms, especially in children.
I am still waiting for the hospital to open a ward for people with arachnophobia with big nasty spiders of the poisonous variety in every room. The paranoid patients get those cameras everywhere, why should they have all the fun ?
RE: I was taught in medical school and psychiatric residency not to talk to people about their voices and their delusions: “It will only feed into them and make them worse.”
How much worse could it get ?
Hang around when two or more people in the hospital get together with similar ideas, my roommate was telling people how the hospital was not a hospital, it was actually the CIA doing mind experiments and some were believing him and feeding into it. See how they follow you around with those clip boards and they are constantly watching on those surveillance cameras so don’t tell anyone you know whats really going on.
I think putting those big ugly surveillance cameras in a persons living environment are the most diabolical torture anyone one could inflict on someone who is paranoid.
When I took a crayon and fouled the lens of the camera in the day room the fact no one ever came to clean it also fouled up this guys delusions.
I know socialism stuff is so “kind, genital and caring” so I am also very curious what we do with the greedy people who attempt to enrich themselves and their families and break ‘anti capitalism’ laws, what will the punishment be after outlawing free trade among people for the good of all ?
Will we use the police force and “justice” system ?
Just how do we enforce compliance to this collectivism ?
I cannot understand all the capitalism bashing on a mental health website !
How is that possible with the number of people here who have studied human behavior ??? How is that even possible ?!!!
The connection between work and reward, remember that ? Motivation ect. People are selfish and always will be. The nanny state gives me free doctor visits, so today I am motivated to bust my ass work and ‘get er done’… Not in a million years.
Always in these debates the socialists use emotion to stir people up (rich people suck) but they can’t seem to get the logic right.
“exploit the majority of people and ravage the earth for the benefit of a tiny”
Where do these ideas come from ? YES ! The 1% rich have some nice houses, maybe a car collection , perhaps a plane or maybe two , I don’t think it is possible for them to eat much more of their fair share without getting to 500lbs and obese.
But rich people are greedy scum ! O.K so we take all their money and distribute it “fairly” , great idea !! But wait, what happens now when everyone has a big pocket full of money but the stores don’t contain more things ? Want to buy a $10 bag of chips anyone ? or a $300 pair of “cheap” sneakers ?
These ideas never work for a reason.
Re: “People spoke of nervous breakdowns”
When I was in the hospital there was a handout on how to talk to your doctor and it used “Don’t say nervous breakdown, say depression” as an example. This was the abusive place I ended up after attempting to treat my nervous breakdown with alcohol and going to the ER voluntarily by myself for detoxification. I had already done the medication dependency thing years before for anxiety and got nothing but worse and finally escaped it and was doing well until I decided to go another round with alcohol.
I refused the bipolar label and heavy zombification that goes with it so I was threatened with a forced injection ‘needle rape’ and a trip to the state hospital, I had another nervous breakdown due to the needle rape threat made to me in a place you can’t just leave and they of course used it as proof I needed more “treatment”. No, I needed to rest and not drink and get back to my life. No rest in this place only rude wakeups at 6am by the bouncers or correction officer types to stand online for blood pressure.
If I just took the “meds” to get out faster like most do I would have had to endure the withdrawal reactions from their so called “non addictive” zombie drugs, like horrible anxiety insomnia, again.
What’s the latest from these so called “experts” in mental health ? NO SMOKING , no smoke breaks behind psychiatric locked doors. That’s right, lets add nicotine withdrawal and call it “helping” people in crisis. The one thing patients look forward to they are taking away and no doubt peoples charts are being filled with tales of “episodes” of mental illness when they are having the exact same reaction a “sane” smoker would have if you took his or her freedom and ability to smoke. I haven’t seen the results of this no smoking policy but I saw plenty of violence when distressed people were admitted after the last smoke break and were told they had to wait till morning by these people who were “helping” them.
I guess nothing beats their treatment for people suffering paranoia, I think they get the worst of it, locking them in a place where every inch is covered by big ugly surveillance cameras, I am not sure if they have plans for a room full of spiders for treating arachnophobia yet.
Right now in our democratic socialism the govt and the robber barrens work hand and hand. Do you think most people would buy that expensive car insurance if the govt wasn’t forcing ? The bank is the collection agency for property taxes.
Eli Lilly and mental health courts ! Right here look no kidding http://flpic.org/
I am really not good at this politics , easy to call me out on small govt ideas and then catch me saying to build some housing to solve the homeless problem or where the hell is the 250mph high speed rail ?
I just like the freedom party, those ideas click.
I know what they do to foster kids, I watched this video http://youtu.be/8W8SHEe5y-o
This video shows one 7-year-old holding a bag filled with 13 psychiatric medications that she had taken. Another young child interviewed by ABC described the effect of the antidepressant and antipsychotic drugs he was taking: “They made me feel like I had a thousand bricks on my head.” Still another child said, “Some of the medications were for ADHD but I’m not ADHD, I’m just naughty.” A teen in foster care on multiple psychiatric drugs said she felt like a “guinea pig.”
I lived the nightmare as an adult after falling for the serotonin scam, it must be 10 times worse for kids.
I don’t understand how this has not been outlawed.
Over watered lawns, not laws ! edit button need one.
“upgrading the water system” II
Do we really need these fancy water systems so the suburbanites can play their narcissistic games of “my grass is greener than yours” ?
Suburbanites: The most prevalent vermin in the USA, recognized by the following characteristics:
-Pretending that they have lots of money, but are actually broke after spending it all trying to impress people with their McMansions, SUVs, over watered laws etc.
-Love of crappy chain “restaurants” such as Applebee’s, Chili’s, The Olive Garden, IHOP, etc.
-Severely lacking in social skills and intelligence, due to their refusal to interact with anyone other than their elementary/middle school classmates from 15-20 years ago.
They are more often of the conservative school of thought surprisingly, whilest somehow simultaneously perpetuating their frivolous zoning laws.
In suburbia if one decides to “go green” and stop watering and mow their lawn every month instead of every week then they’d get a nasty letter from the city council and possibly a fine.
I despise suburbanites.
I don’t know where you are but where I am its raining out, quite heavily and so far I don’t think they have figured a way to tax the rain.
Did you know the average roof collects 600 gallons of water for ever inch of rainfall?
“hunter gatherer lifestyle” ADHD Hunter versus Farmer Theory
This is for you one percent fans,
The Story of Your Enslavement http://youtu.be/Xbp6umQT58A
For less than the cost of Govt hassles,inspections, intrusions, paperwork and “licensed installers” you can cut the cord to the earth destroying fossil fuel grid power forever, right now today. Right here http://www.wholesalesolar.com/products.folder/systems-folder/OffGridPackages.html
I just want to vomit when I see liberals on T.V acting like they are the champions of the green revolution. I have to stop I made my point but damb !!
Permits & Fees: Local permitting and inspection fees can add well over $2,500 to your solar costs. All in, permitting costs can total between $3,000-$6,000. Then we add the cost of having a “licensed installer” cause the govt believes home “owners” are to stupid to work on their “own” home…
Wouldn’t it be great to live in a free society and be able to just go online buy parts and start building your system without forking over $3,000-$6,000 to the nanny state that “knows whats best” and “keeps us safe” ?
“Reduce absolute consumption of energy and natural resources”
What a joke. Want to put solar panels on “your house” the one you “own” ?
http://solarpermit.org/ hosts the National Solar Permitting Database, a free, online database of information related to solar permitting requirements of cities and counties across the country.
The govt promotes it but in fact they themselves are the greatest enemy of the green revolution.
“the average American works an extra 163 hours a year”
For most Americans 1/3 to 1/2 of their income is dedicated to the roof over their heads; This translates to 15 years of working over your life time just to pay for it and because of it 76% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. http://thetinylife.com/what-is-the-tiny-house-movement/
Anyone every watch a typical house being built from start to finish ? It takes less than a dozen men less than a month to pop it together with modern tools.
Why does it take 15 years of labor to pay for it ? Gov’t bull crap, tax, insurance, permits and fees.
All these grandiose ideas like “Provide secure, stable and meaningful employment for people everywhere” never ever work and always include forms of coercion by the govt “providers” the people farmers.
“Create a more equitable culture” ? Start by restoring freedom and get Govt out of our lives.
Mother Teresa called America “the loneliest place in the world.”
I read an interview of a person over 100 years old who was asked: What is the biggest change you have seen during your life ? Answer: Television “people went inside their houses and never came back out”.
I love when a good storm knocks the lights out, you get to meet that neighbor who has lived 5 houses down for 10 years for the first time.
“Provide secure, stable and meaningful employment for people everywhere.”
No, the principles of the off grid movement are the way to go.
The need for “employment” is the key element of the “slave system” that causes a constant survival anxiety by making survival depend on money.
I hope Justina is alright, to this day the sights and smells associated with hospitals causes me distress. I had to take a friend to the ER and it was very distressing, logically I knew I was safe but with the memory of my ordeal I just couldn’t be in there and left.
I already knew psychiatry was the worlds worst violator of human rights, they violated mine after I had a nervous breakdown, was inpatient like Justina was, disagreed with the diagnosis of a permanent mental illness, refused treatment and for that I was threatened with a forced injection a ‘needle rape’ , it was very scary and traumatizing … but I had no idea they went as far as to officially do experiments on foster children. Scary !
Abner Louima is a Haitian who was assaulted, brutalized and forcibly sodomized with the handle of a plunger by New York City police officers after being arrested outside a Brooklyn nightclub in 1997. Instead of toilet plungers these “doctors” use hypodermic needles.
If the Abner Louima comparison sounds way over the top to you and to radical , that means in you never came face to face with coercive psychiatry, take these drugs or else… That’s what that means.
Sixty-seven years ago in Nuremberg, Germany, American prosecutors confronted the Nazi physicians who had subjected Jews and others to a regime of medical research. The “doctors’ trial” was the first of the war crimes trials; one of its outcomes was the famous Nuremberg Code, a set of ethical guidelines for human experimentation.
The first tenet of the code is very clear: “The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.”
What part of the phrase “voluntary consent” don’t they understand ?
Hopefully something will come along and wipe out face book the same way AOL got wiped out after becoming arrogant. Many observers had long predicted AOL’s imminent demise.
All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn’t turn nonsense into science again.
“This isn’t science. This is nonesense , dressed up as science.”
`My name is Alice, so please your Majesty,’ said Alice very politely; but she added, to herself, `Why, they’re only a pack of cards, after all. I needn’t be afraid of them!’
The Queen turned crimson with fury, and, after glaring at her for a moment like a wild beast, screamed `Off with her head! Off–‘
`Nonsense!’ said Alice, very loudly and decidedly, and the Queen was silent.
If you really want to add insult to injury blame peoples bad feelings on a brain defect and bad DNA.
Psychiatry is a vicious enemy of Christianity and the Bible.
Or it is hoped that these findings will translate into increased belief in the DSM billing bible instead of the real one ?
The untimely death of Jesus of Nazareth may have been prevented if his severe and persistent mental illness had been properly treated, but alas, there were no miraculous antipsychotic medications 2000 years ago, and they, unfortunately, were forced to crucify the young man.
No, my friends, there was no NAMI Nazareth to assist the needy Joseph and Mary. Count your blessings.
We can see from Jesus’ family history that his mother, Mary, also suffered from untreated delusions and hallucinations. At the age of fourteen, young Mary believed she was visited by an Archangel named “Gabriel” whom she claimed appeared in order to inform her that she was pregnant with the Son of G-d. Mary suffered also from command hallucinations in which, she felt, the angel was ordering her to name her baby Jesus. It is common for schizophrenia to run in families. In fact, Mary’s mother Anna was also afflicted with hallucinatory visions of angels.
Mary’s much older guardian, Joseph the Carpenter, upon discovering her predicament, was not pleased. He was determined to leave Mary and dismiss her entirely. The stress of being unwed and pregnant in ancient times, may have triggered Mary’s genetic predisposition to mental illness, the very same illness that Jesus went on to develop during early adulthood. Joseph opted instead to assist in concealing Mary’s crime, and they were secretly married by the high priest.
Indeed, this was a troubled family, prone to instability and homeless wandering. Jesus himself was born under less than sanitary conditions, surrounded by animals and their droppings, which gives credence to the possibility that he may have been infected at birth with a schizo-virus found in the animal fecal matter. Upon the birth of Jesus, three social workers visited to assess the situation, and provided some limited assistance. Yet, even with the large taxes being assessed in Bethlehem, there was insufficient funding for helping these displaced and mentally ill homeless individuals, and Mary and baby Jesus fell through the cracks of a cold, uncaring system. No, My friends, there was no Mother’s Act. Without the support of Joseph, Mary and Jesus may have succumbed much sooner to the ravages of untreated schizophrenia.
Even as a young child, it seems Jesus’ symptoms were evident. He had few friends due to his outrageous and risky behavior, and many parents chose to disallow their own children from playing with young Jesus. Perhaps, it was during this time of social isolation that Jesus began to develop pathological personality traits which were exacerbated by his untreated brain illness. By the time he reached adulthood at the age of 12, Jesus was struggling with his symptoms. He chose to run away to Jerusalem, believing he was told to go home to his “father”, G-d. Joseph had passed away around this time, and Jesus became the sole supporter for his mother and himself. Again, they had fallen on hard times, losing their property and fighting poverty. “No adolescent youth who has lived or ever will live on this world or any other world has had or ever will have more weighty problems to resolve or more intricate difficulties to untangle.”
“Jesus attained his full physical growth. He was a virile and comely youth. He became increasingly sober and serious, but he was kind and sympathetic. His eye was kind but searching; his smile was always engaging and reassuring. His voice was musical but authoritative; his greeting cordial but unaffected…yet he was developing a somewhat fluctuating and aggressive temperament.” Jesus began to engage in violent behavior, entering the temple and turning over the furniture in a rage. He spoke of receiving messages from G-d, of whom he claimed to be the son sent to redeem humanity. Jesus roamed the streets in his delusional state, speaking of things that no one else could understand. His rants and rages became the focus of the authorities, and Jesus was arrested.
No, my friends, there was no jail diversion for the severely and persistently mentally ill back in those days. There were no state of the art psychiatric facilities that could contain Jesus, keeping him and others safe from his bizarre ideas and vagrant wandering. The authorities did not understand that Jesus had a serious brain illness. In ignorance and hatred, they crucified him. Jesus became just another statistic, a tragic victim of his untreated severe mental illness.
But today, we have neuroleptic drugs and NAMI. Today we could have prevented Jesus’ wandering and ranting, his threats about the end times, his disruptive behaviors. His loving NAMI family could have called 911 as soon as he started turning over the tables at temple, and specially trained CIT officers would subdue, lovingly restrain Jesus for safety, and remove him from society to a safe haven of psychiatric care, where he would be given highly effective medications that would allow for his peaceful and productive re-entry into society.
You’ve come a long way NAMI…Amen.
Now, a study shows that “the least religious of all medical specialties is psychiatry“
“Right wing nonsense”: The thing that protects us from the ever growing nanny state into things like mental health screening in schools and “free” psychiatry for everyone.
Doesn’t matter, agree or disagree with political stuff that bible.ca psychiatry page is a great resource if you want to criticize psychiatry on religious grounds .
Explain to them how psychiatry is atheist and anti christian.
“Psychiatry is a vicious enemy of Christianity and the Bible.”
You have seen bible.ca psychiatry right ?
Psychiatry is Anti-Christian
Psychiatry is unBiblical
Psychiatry is Atheistic
Psychiatry is Evolutionist
And the cool thing and the thing that keeps me “copy catting” (spreading the word online) is that once a person reads just one good article explaining how “This isn’t science. This is nonesense , dressed up as science” that person is usually immune to all further nonsense they encounter from then on. Slowly more people are learning.
Future generations are going to point to today’s psychiatry and especially the mass drugging of youth as an example of how stupid and ignorant past generations were.
Yes I did think of using the term spellbinding but not everyone knows the definition of that. http://breggin.com/spellbinding_psychiatric_drugs.pdf
This spellbinding needs to be more widely known and explained cause it’s effect causes the most damage.
Once I figured out I was really having a withdrawal problems I was starting to see the truth, the spell was starting to be broken.
The paper that link above leads to does point out “memory dysfunction”.
The part I hate the most about “dual diagnosis” is that people with alcohol / addiction problems never get free of chemical intoxication cause psychiatric drugs start usually the day detox medication stops.
Active drinking or addiction or both > detox > psych meds
“Dual diagnosis” ensures drugs spellbinding effect goes unbroken.
RE: A person can be fooled though, into thinking that they are genuinely sick because the treatment eventually makes them sick.
I often look back and ask how I did not see how sick “treatment” was making me ? It’s like the stuff gave me amnesia or some memory disorder where I totally forgot what I was like before.
I have a tough question.
I don’t believe it but what if it was actually true that psychiatric drugs prevent suicides in youth, how many young people should live a drugged childhood and adolescence to save that one person from suicide ?
Suicide is such a horrible thing, should we just medicate all young people ?
What is the acceptable collateral damage ?
“The cause of these increases [bipolar diagnosis] is unclear”
No, its not. http://www.madinamerica.com/category/disorders-resources/children-and-adolescents/bipolar-children-and-adolescents/
“there were significant, relative increases in psychotropic drug poisonings in adolescents (21.7%, 95% confidence interval 4.9% to 38.5%) and young adults (33.7%, 26.9% to 40.4%) but not among adults (5.2%, −6.5% to 16.9%). These reflected absolute increases of 2 and 4 poisonings per 100 000 people among adolescents and young adults, respectively (approximately 77 additional poisonings in our cohort of 2.5 million young people). Completed suicides did not change for any age group.”
The number of visits to a doctor’s office that resulted in a label of bipolar disorder in children and teens has increased by 40 times over the last decade, reported researchers funded in part by the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Over the same time period, the number of visits by adults resulting in a bipolar disorder diagnosis almost doubled. The cause of these increases is unclear. Medication prescription patterns for the two groups were similar. The study was published in the September 2007 issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry.
1. We could copy how this website does it http://www.thefix.com/ ?
2. Ads for things like 1-800-bad-drug and http://www.google.com/search?q=psychiatric+malpractice+attorney ?
Paywall ? http://www.google.com/search?q=paywall+bypass
I just clicked the link in the article again and I can’t believe NAMI (Eli Lilly and friends) and so many other mental health mafia members are on the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission.
Wait what, did I just read the commission includes Kathleen Flaherty: Staff Attorney, Statewide Legal Services of Connecticut, Inc. / Facilitator and State Trainer, National Alliance for Mental Illness in Connecticut ?
Flaherty, who has long struggled with bipolar disorder (she was forcibly hospitalized for depression during law school), would presumably offer insights into the mind of Adam Lanza, the gunman in the Newtown massacre, who allegedly suffered from mental illness. What’s noteworthy about Flaherty is her matter-of-fact admission about being bipolar herself.
I don’t know this person Kathleen Flaherty at all, but to me a person with mental illness working for NAMI is like a Jewish person helping the NAZIS.
NAMI consistently advocates against human rights for people accused of mental illness !
Neuroleptic/anti-psychotic drugs originate from the chemical phenothiazene, which was used as synthetic dye in 1883. In 1934 Phenothiazene was used by the veterinary practice as an insecticide and extended for killing swine parasites; phenothiazene affects the brains Acetlycholinergic System and results in lethal increases of acetlycholine in the periphery and central nervous system of the insect.
A Research Timeline for Antipsychotic Drugs
Just seems like a bad idea for pregnant women to be ingesting this stuff.
Also try sleeping ‘late’, nothing aggravates my so called ADHD more than rude morning wakeups before I am done sleeping.
And check out http://www.google.com/search?q=delayed+phase+sleep+disorder
I haven’t tried it. I like to just goto a meeting to be around peers. I know that isolation and no one to talk to is the evilest of evils from my days of not having a driver license and living alone in the suburbs in a place with no public transportation what so ever. Alone and there is no way out of it, I know about that place, it’s the darkest place in the universe.
Ever see that episode of Star Trek “Dagger of the Mind” ?
MCCOY: He’s dead, Captain.
NOEL: The machine wasn’t on high enough to kill.
KIRK: But he was alone. Can you imagine the mind emptied by that thing? Without even a tormentor for company.
NOEL: I understand.
Now I was just looking for the name of that episode for this post and found this , I wasn’t the first to get it.
Doctor McCoy couldn’t understand how the person died. Kirk replied that he died of loneliness
“Imagine being totally alone without even a tormentor for company”.
I have to hurry up finish this post memory of those days not good, anger, but I know an understanding voice “warm line” could have been a lifeline out of the pit of hell back to reality back then.
Psychiatry only has to do one thing to get all the respect they would ever want, GET HONEST !
This is what we know and this is what we have to offer… HONESTY.
Evidence That More Psychiatry Means More Suicide
No problem at all Donna, I went to the hospital after a drinking fueled nervous breakdown sick and full of anxiety . For this I was accused of being bipolar, suicidal and subjected to the usual “take these drugs or else” threats after I refused stating that taking those pills and living in a tired anhedonic daze is not going to help me in any way and if I take them in the hospital, just to comply and get out, I will suffer withdrawal reactions like insomnia hell all over again when I quit them.
Gee thanks, I feel so so much better with no creativity or motivation, sexual dysfunction, lowered life expectancy and the lowered ability to feel pleasure from life all those ‘mood’ drugs cause. Ya sure.
I never managed to get my abuse/civil rights case to court but it would have been great to have that “doctor” try and justify the injection threats and abuse on my alleged suicidally and “need” for medication shown to INCREASE suicidal tendencies.
I was never suicidal, I was just a typical anxiety patient who made it worse by drinking looking for a Xanax to make it go away. My medical records were full of lies to rip off my insurance, keep the beds full and make cash for Universal Health Services.
Try searching Teen+bipolar+suicide , every page that comes up is recommending get “treatment” that = drugs likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo.
There is your teen suicide increase people.
Bipolar in youth up 4000 % …
I rest my case.
This study would be they headlines if “they” actually cared about suicides.
“The selling of bipolar disorder stresses that the disorder takes a fearsome toll of suicides. And indeed the controversy surrounding the provocation of suicide by antidepressants has been recast by some as a consequence of mistaken diagnosis. If the treating physician had only realized the patient was bipolar, they would not have mistakenly prescribed an antidepressant. Because of the suicide risk traditionally linked to patients with bipolar disorders who needed hospitalisation, most psychiatrists would find it difficult to leave any person with a case of bipolar disorder unmedicated. Yet, the best available evidence shows that unmedicated patients with bipolar disorder do not have a higher risk of suicide.
Storosum and colleagues analyzed all placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized trials of mood stabilizers for the prevention of manic/depressive episode that were part of a registration dossier submitted to the regulatory authority of the Netherlands, the Medicines Evaluation Board, between 1997 and 2003 . They found four such prophylaxis trials. They compared suicide risk in patients on placebo compared with patients on active medication. Two suicides (493/100,000 person- years of exposure) and eight suicide attempts (1,969/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the group given an active drug (943 patients), but no suicides and two suicide attempts (1,467/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the placebo group (418 patients). Based on these absolute numbers from these four trials, I have calculated (see Figure S1 showing calculation, and see Figure 2) that active agents are most likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo (95% CI 0.5, 10.00).”
Meanwhile , (Reuters) – The world’s first clinical trial designed to explore using a hallucinogen from magic mushrooms to treat people with depression has stalled because of British and European rules on the use of illegal drugs in research. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/06/us-depression-magicmushrooms-idUSBRE9350BF20130406
Electroconvulsive therapy and ketamine ? That sounds kinda brutal . Try the mushrooms first.
Step 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
In the UK, 200,000 people with learning disabilities are given anti-psychotic drugs http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7170167.stm
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
The Copy_Cat Royal College Of Exposing Big Pharma blames direct to consumer advertizing . This video helps viewers understand the ways in which direct-to-consumer (DTC) pharmaceutical advertising glamorizes and normalizes the use of prescription medication, and works in tandem with promotion to doctors. http://redpill.tv/big-bucks-big-pharma-marketing-disease-pushing-drugs/
I will never forget “Miss Zoloft” the physician assistant at a treatment center that prescribed this stuff to everyone who crossed her path. No one left the office medicated.
I had mentioned that I have trouble sitting still, not long after that and some other discussion It was suggested that I try Abilify that makes the problem 10x worse.
It wasn’t very nice what I was doing playing naive patient but it was worth it when I asked about my chemical inbalance and then asked for a test for it. I was told they are “very expensive” so I asked “how expensive?” and just how exactly does the test work ? I am into scientific things.
When she pressed a pregnant girl to start taking SSRIs is when I got in her face and asked “whats wrong with you?” and called her out on pill pushing on everyone.
Said Professor Sir Simon Wessely , “non-profit advocacy groups.”
They are not “non profit”, they are funded by the pharma companies to increase sales.
― Vladimir Lenin
They say it’s wise not to underestimate your adversary, here we have psychiatrists , people who study the mind for a living working on changing what the public thinks of them.
Yet, the best available evidence shows that unmedicated patients with bipolar disorder do not have a higher risk of suicide.
Storosum and colleagues analyzed all placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized trials of mood stabilizers for the prevention of manic/depressive episode that were part of a registration dossier submitted to the regulatory authority of the Netherlands, the Medicines Evaluation Board, between 1997 and 2003 . They found four such prophylaxis trials. They compared suicide risk in patients on placebo compared with patients on active medication. Two suicides (493/100,000 person- years of exposure) and eight suicide attempts (1,969/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the group given an active drug (943 patients), but no suicides and two suicide attempts (1,467/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the placebo group (418 patients). Based on these absolute numbers from these four trials, I have calculated (see Figure S1 showing calculation, and see Figure 2) that active agents are most likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo (95% CI 0.5, 10.00). http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0030185
I remember from my hospitalizations that the most common method people were using to attempt suicide was on impulse to take the whole bottle of pills psychiatry gave them ! More females attempt suicide than males. (3 female attempts for each male attempt.)
“take the issue away from the fundamentalist right. ”
NO, right , left, middle, top and bottom… everyone needs board when it comes to fighting psychiatric oppression.
None of this left vs right so nothing ever happens non sense.
This never should have happened in the first place 🙁
Psychiatry was doomed the day the internet was born because it’s all built on lies that are getting more and more and more exposed.
Every one of them know that on any visit with any patient that might be the day that a patient calls him or her out on some crap like the ‘these pills fix your chemical imbalance’ lie and all the rest of it.
Hey doc why didn’t you tell me I was going to get withdrawal reactions from hell from this pill you said was “non addictive” ?
I looked it up and read all these angry web pages written by people who got really sick from it.
Do some PR to get rid of that.
I read the stuff that came up, sooo easy for an MIA reader to see right through it as and pull it apart, but what is the public thinking ?
Better yet, what are my thinking ?
Is it worth starting 10,000 teens down the road to a lifetime on psychiatric drugs to save ONE from suicide ??
SSRIs are psychiatry’s gateway drug and once the gate is open it’s damb hard to shut.
Just about everyone who had done the ADHD treatment thing and tried the stuff cringes when the doctor says “Vyvance” and starts spouting off what ever the drug rep told him to think. But it’s not enough for Shire , they have to push their inferior product on preschoolers !
Pharma dirt bags and pedophiles , oh so much in common.
ADHD Drug To Be Tested On Four-Year-Olds
Test the drugs on the Shire CEOs children or grand children first.
I have “tested” Vyvance , that Dexadrine focus is great until the flawed extended release delivery system delivers the extended horrible jittery anxiety ridden can’t eat crash they call “effective for 12 hours”.
Nothing is to low for these pharma dirtbags, including testing the stuff on four year olds who can’t possibly express how the stuff makes them feel.
These pharma dirtbage are in the same class as pedophiles.
Their has to be one critic of MIA reading this who can come along and say its not true.
I would like to see that, some action that shows they care about those harmed, prove me wrong.
Big Psychiatry has NOTHING to say about the people it has harmed and won’t admit it ever harms anyone. They have NOTHING to say about the collateral damage from what they do with their labels and drugs.
Why ? They are constitutionally incapable of being HONEST with anyone including themselves.
Admit it big psychiatry the APA , you harm alot of people and I never found anything from your “side” that addresses this, no no its always more PR to make yourselves more billions.
So am I when I see scientific proof of this or maybe a DNA test.
I think withdrawal is worse for some than others is due to the fear of not having the drug snowballing into more fear.
The belief “Without the drug I will have a panic attack” causes a panic attack.
Beliefs are not genetic.
Nice clear description of panic attack experience Andrew, it brought me back to that place.
I also know what panic attacks feel like. I also know how it feels to experience a “dissociative episode” from the inside out. I also know what it feels like to believe that you are going crazy.
I know what it feels like to goto the hospital for help and be treated like a subhuman in this condition being told to get naked for a strip search, squat and cough, finally settle down and then be told if I don’t take a ton of brain disabling drugs including Haldol I would be forcibly injected and sent to the state hospital and then feel panic attacks, a “dissociative episode” from the inside out all over again inside that place.
I also know what it feels like to have the results of their abuse labeled mental illness.
I also know what an intense hatred for psychiatry as a whole fells like, they are the scum of the earth who just can’t do anything honest ever, it’s just lies lies and anything no matter how dirty to make a few more billions for the industry. Hiding side effects to sell drugs for children ? Hell ya, nothing is too low for them absolutely nothing.
F psychiatry forever.
A pharma crook will goto prison now for the despicable things they have been caught doing over and over again ? I will need to see it happen before I believe it.
This “Lauras Law” should include the right to a trial by a jury of ones peers just like any other time the govt takes peoples freedom to chose whats in there own bloodstream.
And when is the referendum on these ?
1. Rebecca Riley Law
2. Gabriel Myers Law
3. Emilio Villamar law
That’s what this is about the is treatment harming more people than helping.
“Were I to invoke logic, however, logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few few or the one “
How about one of these ?
The argument “but psychiatry helps some people” is a tough one.
I am very selfish I guess , if help for someone else means I myself will be brutalized in the name of help I would rather the next person not be helped.
Thanks but no thanks, I got to be the collateral damage from Torrey’s ideas already.
Gee thanks for stealing what I was going to say !
Foster Kids Prescribed Psychotropic Drugs | Video – ABC abcnews.go.com/2020/video/foster-kids-prescribed-psychotropic-drugs-heavy-duty-drug-treatments-neglect-2020-15077792
This is one only videos I know of that let the children themselves speak about it.
One young child interviewed by ABC News described the effect of the antidepressant and antipsychotic drugs he was taking: “They made me feel like I had a thousand bricks on my head.” Another child said, “Some of the medications were for ADHD but I’m not ADHD, I’m just naughty.” A teen in foster care on multiple psychiatric drugs told ABC News she felt like a “guinea pig.”
Shire agrees to test Vyvanse in preschoolers
Addiction is a genetic “disease”:
It’s not our fault our drugs got you hooked, your brain is defective and so is your DNA…
People without defective brains and good DNA don’t get addicted to Clonopin and Xanax.
Didn’t you listen when you went to treatment ???
Psychiatric victim blaming: How it works
1. Lets prescribe addictive drugs like Clonopin to clients and make fat stacks of cash !
2. When our clients get addicted/dependent we make more cash for the psych industry with addiction treatment and get clients to blame themselves and teach them to say “hello my name is… and I am an addict ” as confirmation the blame is on the client and not on psych pharma for selling drugs that cause wicked dependence and addiction.
Watch this video before voting,
Ryan, member of MindFreedom, describing coercive psychiatry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkdaUWeausg
Do we want more of this in America ?
Unlike psychiatric patients farm animals have the right to fresh air and direct sun and exercise !
§ 205.239 Livestock living conditions. [PARAPHRASED]
(a) The producer of an organic livestock operation must establish and maintain year-round livestock living conditions which accommodate the health and natural behavior of animals, including:
(1) Year-round access for all animals to the outdoors, shade, shelter, exercise areas, fresh air, clean water for drinking, and direct sunlight, suitable to the species, its stage of life, the climate, and the environment…Yards, feeding pads, and feedlots shall be large enough to allow all ruminant livestock to feed simultaneously without crowding and without competition for food. Continuous total confinement of any animal indoors is prohibited…
(4) Shelter designed to allow for:
(i) Natural maintenance, comfort behaviors, and opportunity to exercise.
“and what is the best strategic orientation to “unite all who can be united” moving forward in our struggle to end psychiatric oppression?”
I don’t think it matters much when fighting a huge monstrosity like the psycho pharmaceutical industrial complex what gets fired at it as long as everyone keeps firing with everything they got without letting up.
I think we are still in the stage where in actual warfare the air force is softening up the enemy so it’s so it’s safe enough for the ground troops to go in and start cleaning up.
I like posting all the disgusting , dishonorable and dishonest stuff the industry does from my “plane” dropping nasties all over the web exposing the truth to more and more and more people.
I am going to drop a nasty right here: Part 1: Children reveal painful memories of neglect, heavy duty drug treatments. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/foster-kids-prescribed-psychotropic-drugs-heavy-duty-drug-treatments-neglect-2020-15077792
Hey kids of Mexico it’s movie time , El Marketing de la Locura – Vendiendo la Enfermedad http://youtu.be/3iitl6IqSRo
I thought child drugging was mainly an American problem , silly me forgetting the how that the psychiatric pharmaceutical industry is a bottomless pit of greed without boarders !
The perfect video to go with this http://youtu.be/2UnJ4H8JLmM “doctor I have lost my job…”
My bad , that’s a pic of Andrew Witty, the present chief executive of GlaxoSmithKline. Google images popped it up for Mark Reilly GSK.
Check out this funny photo I found of Mark Reilly, the guy hopefully going to china prison.
On April 21, 2009, the Miami Herald reported that a 7-year-old boy in Florida, Gabriel Myers, had committed suicide by hanging himself with a detachable shower head in a bathroom of the foster care home he was placed in three weeks earlier.
All total, the Herald found the child had been given the ADHD drug Vyvanse, the antidepressant Lexapro, the atypical antipsychotic, Zyprexa, and Symbyax, a drug that contains both Prozac and Zyprexa.
The most appalling part of this story is that Dr Sohail Punjwani, the shrink who was supposedly treating Gabriel, told the Herald that he did not even recall the boy.
Read more http://evelynpringle.blogspot.com/2010/07/lawsuits-needed-against-prescribing.html
Vyvanse and Lexapro, the wicked Zyprexa and Symbyax (Prozac and Zyprexa) !
What an evil drug combination. WTF is wrong with these “doctors” ?
Zheng Xiaoyu, who had admitted to taking bribes over medicines, was put to death .
July 11, 2007
BEIJING, July 10 — China executed its former top food and drug regulator on Tuesday for taking bribes to approve untested medicine, as the Beijing leadership scrambled to show that it was serious about improving the safety of Chinese products.
The Beijing No. 1 Intermediate People’s Court carried out the death sentence against Zheng Xiaoyu, 62, the former head of the State Food and Drug Administration, shortly after the country’s Supreme Court rejected his final appeal.
Mr. Zheng, who had appealed his May 29 sentence on the grounds that it was too severe and that he had confessed to the bribery charges against him, became the first ministerial-level official put to death since 2000 and the fourth since China opened its doors to the outside world nearly 30 years ago.
Your goose is cooked Mark Reilly.
How bad are these pharma dirtbags ? Glaxo Testing Paxil on 7-Year-Olds ! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/12/glaxo-testing-paxil-on-7yearolds-despite-suicide-risks.aspx
China has around for 5,000 years, they are not going to let these bigtime seedy snake oil salesman from the west just run around the place committing crimes killing thousands and sickening millions with their dirty drug pushing fraud like they do in the US and other western countries.
If you ever had the American version of “drunk driving” , 3 beers , you can’t visit Canada.
Whats the goal of treatments , to make you feel normal or behave normal or what ?
ADD like I am accused of is not “normal” but neither is being high on those “meds” with the ability to sit still and do boring ass things like normal people do.
I was also accused of bipolar along the way, that diagnosis is such a catch all these days I am not getting into it but the drug for that made it look like I was ‘doing well’ to ‘normal’ people but it was a robbery and not ‘normal’ living in that anhedonic state of zombie.
I had anxiety but was being stoned on Xanax or Clonopin making me ‘normal’ ?
All I wanted was a pill to sleep so I could get up early like ‘normal’ people do and was told insomnia is a symptom of depression leading to SSRIs the gateway drug and a 10 year nightmare called psychiatry with labels and pills. I thought it was medical, I never thought to question it.
I found out early to bed early to rise aint normal tanyway.
“In 2001, historian Roger Ekirch of Virginia Tech published a seminal paper, drawn from 16 years of research, revealing a wealth of historical evidence that humans used to sleep in two distinct chunks.
A woman tending to her husband in the middle of the night by Jan Saenredam, 1595 Roger Ekirch says this 1595 engraving by Jan Saenredam is evidence of activity at night
His book At Day’s Close: Night in Times Past, published four years later, unearths more than 500 references to a segmented sleeping pattern – in diaries, court records, medical books and literature, from Homer’s Odyssey to an anthropological account of modern tribes in Nigeria. ”
So I was normal all along and needed a pill to sleep abnormal !
Of course the media has little to say about the epidemic of child drugging, because after reporting it, taking station breaks for advertisements for antidepressants and sedatives might give big media editors and producers indigestion, since their very existence depends on pharmaceutical company sponsorship.
Focusing on the industry’s marketing practices, media scholars and health professionals help viewers understand the ways in which direct-to-consumer (DTC) pharmaceutical advertising glamorizes and normalizes the use of prescription medication, and works in tandem with promotion to doctors.
Here is how that works http://redpill.tv/big-bucks-big-pharma-marketing-disease-pushing-drugs/
Here is how the child drugging industry trolls for costumers http://www.psychsearch.net/teenscreen.html Psychiatry looks at behavior, then fraudulently calls the behavior a medical disease but they use no medical, lab, blood, or urine tests, brains scans, etc. to prove that’s the cause of the feelings and behaviors.
I have spoken to hundreds of people who have been subjected to child psychiatry , no one is grateful and most have resentments about a drugged childhood. What is sad is most of them still believe all the broken brain psychiatric lies told to their parents to push the drugs on them in the first place.
Goto any 12 step meeting where treatment center vans show up and bring up the topic of psychiatry , MOST of the young people will join in and tell a story of a drugged childhood.
Childhood psychiatry leads to adult drug addiction no matter how much they try and deny it and refuse to track it.
But pharma pays NAMI to do it ! Grants and Contributions http://goo.gl/wy2q5Q
It’s both a good and bad thing. I think Teenscreen shut down only because they saw kids were searching it online and finding out it was a pharma front to get them on drugs and that’s bad for business.
The number one complaint people in early recovery have is “nothing is fun sober”. So what does psychiatry do ? They ignore this and push their brain disabling drugs that make the problem worse !!!
These “dual diagnosis” drug treatments have their ‘therapeutic’ impact by disabling the brain. They do not improve brain function or correct biochemical imbalances, they cause brain dysfunction and biochemical imbalances. These brain-disabling interventions are then considered effective when the doctor, family, patient or society views impaired brain dysfunction in the target individuals as a desirable or beneficial effect.
” I don’t want to drink and take get high party drugs that make me feel totally awesome cause the doctor the doctor gave me bipolar medication that makes me feel apathetic and zombie like all day” How stupid is that ????
It makes the idea of party drugs more attractive !
What they do is tell clients it’s for ‘anxiety’ so they take it when in fact it’s to dumb everyone down and make them easy to manage.
“Dual diagnosis” has to go next cause its almost impossible for anyone to get help for drug and alcohol abuse without labels and drug pushing, this is due to the failure to stop one of the most dangerous drug pushers of all time: the psychiatrist. The sad irony is that he has also established himself in positions enabling him to control the drug rehab field, even though he can show no results for the billions awarded by governments and legislatures all over the world.
When Columbia University’s TeenScreen program announced last month that it was shutting down effective December 14, everyone, including the Substance Abuse and Mental Health
TeenScreen shuts doors suddenly after 13 years:
Services Administration (SAMHSA), was surprised. Mark Olfson, M.D., interim executive director of TeenScreen, referred interview requests to the Columbia University press office, where spokesman Doug Levy said that no interview requests would be granted.
TeenScreen’s demise shows there is hope and our efforts are working.
Lets keep burning 1.2 gallons of petroleum to make one gallon of ethanol !
“An acre of U.S. corn yields about 7,110 pounds of corn for processing into 328 gallons of ethanol. But planting, growing and harvesting that much corn requires about 140 gallons of fossil fuels and costs $347 per acre, according to Pimentel’s analysis. Thus, even before corn is converted to ethanol, the feedstock costs $1.05 per gallon of ethanol.
* The energy economics get worse at the processing plants, where the grain is crushed and fermented. As many as three distillation steps are needed to separate the 8 percent ethanol from the 92 percent water. Additional treatment and energy are required to produce the 99.8 percent pure ethanol for mixing with gasoline.
* Adding up the energy costs of corn production and its conversion to ethanol, 131,000 Btu are needed to make 1 gallon of ethanol. One gallon of ethanol has an energy value of only 77,000 Btu. “Put another way,” Pimentel said, “about 70 percent more energy is required to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in ethanol. Every time you make 1 gallon of ethanol, there is a net energy loss of 54,000 Btu.”
Re “I suspect that for many people who deny human-induced climate change, such denial is a strategy to try to meet their need for security and also perhaps ease (with “denial” implying a refusal to look honestly at actual observations made by oneself and others). ”
1. Read about the global warming theory, they use all the same disclaimer words as people pushing the serotonin theory “suggests” , “linked to” , “presumed to be”.
2. Earth’s current atmospheric CO2 concentration is almost 390 parts per million (ppm). Adding another 300 ppm of CO2 to the air has been shown by thousands of experiments to greatly increase the growth or biomass production of nearly all plants. People who grow cannabis indoors know all about this !
More CO2 and plants grow faster to deal with it. The tundra melts and a million + square miles turns to forest .
Call me delusional as you want but I believe there would be no life on earth at all if this planet did not have a “checks and balance” system that works very very well, well enough to cope with our petty little influence over a few decades.
Life on earth survives meteor strikes , massive volcanoes all links of stuff for millions of years but then man kind comes along and digs up some coal and oil and burns it and now it all comes to a cataclysmic end !
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
T. S. Eliot
NAMI on Chemical Imbalance Belief – YouTube
“NAMI’s Scientific Council” is still pushing anti psychotics off label ! ( I thought that was illegal )
“Antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers have been proven to be effective in treating oppositional defiant disorder and conduct disorder.”
Abilify or home ownership ?
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Who want’s to make cents when label and drug makes billion of dollars ?
Why do I bash Eli Lilly ? http://www.google.com/search?q=zyprexa+scandal
The killed and injured lots of people with there fraud and greed.
Its horrible, at least kids drugged with stimulants to control them get a nice high that feels similar to cocaine out of the deal even if the crash sucks.
From the article: “The report suggests the marked increase in prescriptions could be due to prescription shopping and suggests the medicines may be diverted to the illegal market.”
There is no illegal market for antipsychotic drugs, “Hey man do you know where I could score some olanzapine ? I just really want to feel like I was bashed in the head with a hammer today”.
Illegal market for antipsychotics, ya sure.
“In short, the whole business of creating psychiatric categories of ‘disease,’ formalizing them with consensus, and subsequently ascribing diagnostic codes to them, which in turn leads to their use for insurance billing, is nothing but an extended racket furnishing psychiatry a pseudo-scientific aura. The perpetrators are, of course, feeding at the public trough.” —Dr. Thomas Dorman, internist and member of the Royal College of Physicians of the UK, Fellow, Royal College of Physicians of Canada
“We can manufacture enough diagnostic labels of normal variability of mood and thought that we can continually supply medication to you…But when it comes to manufacturing disease, nobody does it like psychiatry.” —Dr. Stefan Kruszewski, Harvard trained Pennsylvania psychiatrist, 2004
NAMI parents !
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Re: Pharma to create the new child bipolar epidemic.
The ‘side’ effects of stimulants are exactly the same as ‘symptoms of bipolar’ but all logic stops there, just read any of those forums where the parents talk about there kids so called mental illness, the drugging never stops no matter how much worse their kids get. I goes like this: My child was never helped and has only gotten worse since starting medication so you should do the same thing I am doing and keep trying to “find the right meds” even though if you read all the posts over the years no one ever finds them but keep trying no matter what. They call it “supporting” each other.
P.S , the most common reaction from an adult who tries ADHD drugs for the first time is “Wow , they give this stuff to kids?”
Well Ya, they actually do.
Focalin and Dexadrine are way better than cocaine. Ritalin feels like cocaine to the person taking it but looks like a sedative to observers (only it lasts longer and gives the illusion of smarts).
Methylphenidate feels more like coke than the amphetamine stimulants for sure.
That new stuff Vyvance is nasty , that delivery system is flawed. It comes on slow and then rises past the feel good point like you drank 12 cups of coffee along with it then it’s O.K for a bit before the extended crash sets in where your still feeling the stuff but only the jittery anxiety depressed part not the focus as it does its thing for 12-14 hours swimming around your bloodstream. If you take less to avoid the unpleasant peak it doesn’t have the focus effect at all, you just feel icky half way there for several hours.
Shire calls Vyvance new and improved , not the first time the drug companies have lied to us to make a billion or two off a new patent.
The worst part is the crash from this stuff, just drink 7 or 8 cups of coffee and you will get an idea of what that unfocused stimulation that lingers during the crash feels like.
Or adjust for body weight take a dose of your kids pills yourself.
What’s the biggest myth ever ? People with ADHD don’t get high from the “meds” , I feel like a rat saying that but it’s true.
“Compliance is proof of competence”.
Emilio was found slumped over in his room at Fort Lauderdale Hospital — where he was being treated AGAINST HIS WILL for ALLEGED mental illness — with blood dripping from his mouth or nose, Tringali said. He was taken by ambulance to Broward General Hospital, where he slipped into a coma.
The teen died March 29, 2003.
Patient: Doctor those meds are knocking me out and make me shuffle, drool and feel like I have a thousand bricks on my head.
Doctor: If you don’t take them we will have you forcibly injected and sent to the state hospital.
“Florida Partners In Crisis”
Cordial previously was the Florida and Georgia state government affairs manager for Eli Lilly & Company. In that role, she focused on legislative and regulatory issues in the public health care arena, including access to mental health medications for patients enrolled in Medicaid.
Gail Cordial was named executive director of Florida Partners in Crisis in March, 2009. Cordial brought to the job more than 20 years’ experience in the area of health-related policy and legislative affairs.
In some cases with Eli Lilly, “funding” takes more than one form. Jerry Radke, a Lilly executive for a wile was “on loan” to NAMI, working out of the organization’s headquarters.
These groups operating under the guise of advocates for the “mentally ill,” in reality are heavily funded pharmaceutical front groups who call the shots , see http://i59.tinypic.com/1zqsm6g.jpg Presenting themselves not only as patient advocacy to their membership, many of which may have a sincere desire to help a loved one or a family member with problems, but to legislators, the press , the public — lobbying for legislation that benefits the mental health and pharmaceutical industries which fund them, and not patients they claim to represent.
Look at this “Florida Partners In Crisis” http://flpic.org/ “Round Table Members” Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation Johnson & Johnson Health Care Systems , they sit “round” the table and figure ways to push more drugs and make more billions.
The most common crisis a person accused of mental illness gets into is homelessness but instead of helping with that the psychiatric pharmaceutical industry makes billions and returns the person to the streets. A few hospital stays will buy a small house !!
“Charges were 2.5 times higher than the hospitals’ reported costs to deliver care. Reimbursed amounts indicated by MarketScan were similar to the reported costs to deliver care. The average cost to deliver care was highest for Medicare and lowest for the uninsured: schizophrenia treatment, $8,509 for 11.1 days and $5,707 for 7.4 days, respectively; bipolar disorder treatment, $7,593 for 9.4 days and $4,356 for 5.5 days; depression treatment, $6,990 for 8.4 days and $3,616 for 4.4 days; drug use disorder treatment, $4,591 for 5.2 days and $3,422 for 3.7 days; and alcohol use disorder treatment, $5,908 for 6.2 days and $4,147 for 3.8 days.”
They don’t want to help, housing is help, they only want to label and drug cause these people are like a bottomless pit of greed and label and drug is where the money is.
Because you can’t call trauma ‘biologically based’ , blame the patient and make billions of dollars selling drugs.
I “predict” that if the state takes your child to “protect” them they will be sent for mental health screening then labelled and drugged. Why? In Texas, foster children were 53 times more likely to be prescribed five or more psychiatric medications at the same time than non-foster children. In Massachusetts, they were 19 times more likely. In Michigan, the number was 15 times. It was 13 times in Oregon. And in Florida, foster children were nearly four times as likely to be given five or more psychotropic medications at the same time compared to non-foster children.
How is that for predicting ?
NO, unlike the rest of us these pharma people don’t do prison for committing crimes.
Link to image of internal email where Pfizer exec calls Neurontin the snake oil of the 20th century.
I was prescribed this crap too back when I still sick as a result of trusting the “medical” profession.
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As usual no prison time for these criminals.
Off label marketing > teen suicides >
10. When the lawsuits roll in from the families of dead patients, simply use a small portion of your windfall profits to settle out of court, admitting no guilt.
Govt. Fails to Oversee Foster Kids’ Drug Treatment –
Foster Kids Prescribed Psychotropic Drugs
Part 1: Children reveal painful memories of neglect, heavy duty drug treatments.
“Pills for Your Ills ” http://youtu.be/2UnJ4H8JLmM
Is your anti depressant not working ? (just like it doesn’t for most people).
“Ask your doctor about Abilify”
2mg 30 tablets $717.30
10mg 30 tablets $717.30
20mg 30 tablets $1,011.76
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Imagine if the did a study on the effects of Abilify Vs a new Mercedes on a persons depression. If the results are better why not a nice new car ? The cost is the same to the person or their insurance company anyway.
I hope the truth of what these “medications” do gets exposed once and for all so I can get my record expunged. ‘Medication induced psychosis’ it feels like your just watching yourself act , a bad dream in reality. I only did property damage, thank God, after that reckless doctor had me on six different drugs. Call me stupid cause thats how I feel now, but I trusted this guy, a Harvard educated doctor. I really though he knew what he was doing and believed psychiatry was ‘medical’ back then.
Woman fighting for prescription warnings after husband kills twins
It was a story that shocked Charlotte, even the country.
David Crespi, a Charlotte-area banker, called 911 the morning of January 20, 2006 and told the operator he had killed his two twin five-year-old daughters. The moment his wife Kim heard the news she said it wasn’t him but drugs he’d been taking.
She knew he had in fact stabbed his daughters to death, he’d admitted to it.
But Kim believed from the second he confessed that her husband committed the crimes in a ‘medication induced psychosis’ brought on by a cocktail of medications he’d recently been prescribed.
What happened to me was “tolerance withdrawal” , most people know withdrawal from anxiety pills causes anxiety and withdrawal from anti psychotics can cause psychosis even if you never had these things before. During withdrawal drug effects usually rebound in the opposite direction. With “tolerance withdrawal” tolerance rises wile the dose stays the same bringing on withdrawal type reactions. Then add to all this “akathisia”, that horrible state of restless agitation these drugs can bring on and things start getting ugly.
Did Psychiatric Drugs Play a Role in the Prom Day Killer’s Violent Behavior?
Last I heard the thing psychiatric drugs do is alter thought mood and behavior so the answer must be yes.
That is kick ass writing.
I am not that good at politics but I sure get it,
It seems to me like a no win situation becuase the right or the Republicans I believe are behind the war on drugs and built the worlds largest prison system and police state.
I found this site searching Justina Pelletier Boston Children’s hospital kidnapping
Police State USA is a volunteer, grassroots journalism hub dedicated to exposing the systemic formation of an American police state. A team of contributing authors has been built based on their ability to exhibit professionalism, accuracy, knowledge of the subjects, and passion for the liberty movement.
Creating More FREE Societies Decreases Mental Illness !!!!
Michael Brandon Hill allegedly dressed in black and armed with an AK-47 assault rifle fired at least six shots at police from inside McNair Elementary School in suburban Atlanta on Tuesday. in August 2013
Timothy Hill, brother of the alleged shooter, told WSB TV (view parts one and two of the interview) that Michael Hill had a long history of mental illness. According to his brother, Hill was placed on Adderall, a drug commonly used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), at the age of six. He had a history of behavioral problems in school starting at age 13.
Hill’s brother said that Michael Hill had a “long history of medical disorders including bipolar,” but that he was never given help. At one point, Michael Hill was on so many medications that it was “like a drugstore.”
Hill’s brother said “Medical disorders ” While posing as “authorities” on the mind and mental health, psychiatry has no scientific basis to call anything “medical”.
“In fourty years, “biological” psychiatry has yet to validate a single psychiatric condition/diagnosis as an abnormality/disease, or as anything neurological, biological, chemically-imbalanced or genetic.” —Dr. Fred Baughman Jr., child neurologist, Fellow of the American Academy of Neurology.
Same story over and over, drugging for ADHD at an early age then symptoms of bipolar. Look up the ‘side’ effects of Adderall then the symptoms of bipolar and find the SAME SYMPTOMS.
Amphetamines starting at age six. Michael Brandon Hill , another life destroyed and turned to hell by the child drugging industry.
RE “after my only psychotic episode, I was prescribed Abilify ”
Of course you were, so was I after showing up at the E.R with panic attacks from all the other pills I was put on.
You are better off having a “psychotic” episode in Nigeria than in the U.S. Why? Because third-world countries have better recovery rates for so-called mental illness than the United States and other industrialized nations that keep their psychiatric patients “maintained” on the drugs. In the United States, one “psychotic” episode will almost always land you in psychiatric wasteland for the rest of your life. It is psychiatry itself that created the chronicity in so-called mental illness.
That’s the anatomy of the epidemic. I don’t understand why this is not front page news or why the majority doctors themselves aren’t doing anything.
Re “because I only needed sleep”
When I was in the hospital they would violate peoples right to undisturbed rest with blood pressure checks at 6:30 am , how incredibly stupid ! Forced wakeups for people who are trying to recover from psychosis most often caused by a lack of sleep.
Psychiatry: Total morons.
In recent years, drug companies have started releasing details of the payments they make to doctors and other health professionals for promotional talks, research and consulting. As of 2012, 15 companies published the information, most because of legal settlements.
Use this tool to search for payments. http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/
Depressed , how about adding “Abilify” ?
2mg 30 tablets $717.30
10mg 30 tablets $717.30
20mg 30 tablets $1,011.76
We know a self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.
Belief: I am depressed cause my brain is broken. The ad on T.V told me so.
Behavior: I will just mope around, my brain is broken nothing I can do, I need those pills.
This article just had me thinking about when I went to treatment for substance ‘abuse’ after the medical profession made me an ‘addict”(dependent on benzos).
Every single person that went in to see that physician assistant was put on SSRI’s unless they refused them, usually Zoloft or Welbutrin . This one reckless prescriber has likely started well over 1000 people on anti depressants over the years. I called her out on it, what are you doing giving everyone this crap ? I am trying to help them… They have anxiety or are depressed and it helps them stay of alcohol and drugs of abuse she said in so many words. This was before I ever started posting or reading MIA but I gave her a lecture on informed consent and told her about the evidence SSRIs cause alcohol cravings. http://davidhealy.org/out-of-my-mind-driven-to-drink/
Maybe these drugs can lift some people out of a real hopeless deep hole of depression but the way so many medical people start people down the road of psychiatric drugs cause “maybe’ you have a little depression and this drug ‘may’ help creating new mental patients faster than the assembly line at ford motors creats cars is just messed up.
Funny how “normal” people will drink or even do drugs to make themselves mentally ill for a wile.
I think we should keep the gun debate off MIA.
This connection between psychotropic drugs and mass murder is not coincidental. There is enough evidence that antidepressants cause increased risk of suicide and violence for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and its Canadian counterpart to require that drug companies include a “black box” warning to that effect on their packages. Our first knowledge of this association between psychotropic drugs and violence came from studies completed in the early 1950s, . This was supported by research completed on antidepressants in the mid-1970s, (9). More recent studies have corroborated this association between antidepressants and homicide/suicide, (10, 17). Antidepressants, specifically Paxil, appear to more than double the risk of hostility events in adult and pediatric placebo-controlled trials (11).
All of the classes of psychiatric drugs can cause violent, irrational, and/or manic behavior. Among other effects, these drugs cause a neurological condition called “akathesia,” which means that persons who take them can’t sit still and feel like they are jumping out of their skin. They behave in an agitated manner which they cannot control and experience unbearable rage, delusions, and disassociation.
Read more http://www.psychintegrity.org/isepp_statement_on_the_connection_between_psychotropic_drugs_and_mass_murder.php
Every shooter is a psych med kid, lied to with the standard chemical imbalance fraud and told they have a “broken brain” to get them on drugs changing the course of there lives.
This ain’t tin foil hat stuff when EVERY shooter has a head full of drugs, no way.
I don’t even like them but the people need guns, they are a necessary evil .
Don’t Drug my Child or I’ll Shoot!
Detroit mother Maryanne Godbaldo is cleared of criminal charges related to her effort to prevent Child Services from physically taking her child.
The right to bear arms, It’s the only thing between us and tyranny. Sad but true.
A 12-year-old Nevada boy who went on a deadly shooting rampage at his school nearly seven months ago had been teased by his classmates and was taking a prescription antidepressant, police said Tuesday.
“Interviews with the boy’s parents, teachers and classmates and the boy’s own writings paint a portrait of a child troubled by depression and feelings of inadequacy at home and tormented by a school life in which he was mocked, teased and mistreated.
A psychotherapist prescribed anti-depressants for Jose Reyes and a toxicology report following the shooting showed an amount of anti-depressants in his system consistent with the prescription.
This was less than a year ago.
Why is this not on mainstream news ? Because after reporting the story, taking station breaks for advertisements for brain disabling “Abilify” and drugs like it, might give big media editors and producers anxiety, since their very existence depends on pharma sponsorship.
Ask your doctor if drugging 12 year olds cause they get bullied in school is a really stupid irresponsible idea.
AbleChild: Parents for Label and Drug Free Education is a nationally recognized Non-Profit Organization (501c3) dedicated to parents, caregivers, and children’s rights alike.
The NEA opposes school vouchers for their own self preservation, everyone knows know the private sector will do a better job educating kids than the mega bureaucracy public school system .
Why your kid is drugged in school
How it works:
The State Department of Education gets monies from the Federal Government (Disability) under a program called “IDEA” for each child diagnosed with a disability. A disability could be ADD/ADHD, Bi-polar disorder, Depression or any of the other mental diagnoses.
Who profits: The State Department of Education, the mental health and counseling Industry, the Pharmaceutical company and the money that is kicked back by lobbyists for politicians special interest and of course the legal profession.
All this at the cost of your child’s Health and welfare.
———-IDEA” Final Regulation (part 1 of 2)
300.7 Child with a disability. http://idea.ed.gov/
I think hip hop culture has dumbed down the American student, sure in my day Ozzy was blamed for a few teen suicides but its better than today where kids music is about “pimping hoes”, selling crack and being a “gangsta”.
Look at me with my pants falling off my rear and a flat tire cause I bumped a curb with my stupid oversize rim and tire with no sidewall . I am so “gangasta” bro !
The dumbing down of America is working.
People at meeting are a good example of how psychiatry and it’s medical model is everywhere, they are always saying my brain this and my brain that or “my brain tells me”.
“My brain tells me” Oh please shut up already about your brain !
I like to share that I never had a “broken brain” I had broken thinking and stuff like how the basic problem with the medical model is that people take it literally rather than understanding it as the metaphor it is. The medical model portrays the mind as an object. It equates mind with brain and uses this assumption to justify defining certain thoughts, feelings, and behavior as medical diseases. Simply stated, mind is different than matter, or body, or brain, for the obvious reason that the body is an object and the mind is not. The body is known through the methods of physics and chemistry. The mind is known through introspection, communication and interpretation.
I have to read this again http://www.szasz.com/leifercritic.pdf to get that share right.
Those meetings can be fun.
I “resent” some of people in the 12 step groups too, especially the ones who just can’t make “I” statements when sharing and go one and on with “we” all and what “you” have to do statements.
What Should We Do?
I say the key is to get off the grid as much as possible, for example you can get a long range wifi antenna and get internet free instead of getting a bill in the mailbox. Cutting cable is one of the the first steps.
You can feed the machine and be it’s slave or you can build your own machine that feeds you, long range wifi antenna V.s a cable bill is the perfect example, solar wind stuff like that is cool too.
Living half a dozen paychecks away from disaster is a perfect recipe for anxiety / depression “mental illness”.
For example, If I can’t pay my light bill my solar panel will charge my battery bank going to a walmart 12-120 volt inverter to power this computer that can pick up free wifi’s a long way off. Those new Led bulbs use less that 10 watts and are bright, I won’t be in the dark either any time soon.
I want this thing next the 600 watt wind turbine,
The 19% : “I’m just doing my job” – an all purpose excuse invented by the NAZIs that can be used by anyone who doesn’t want to take responsibility for their own actions or even consider that what they’re doing might be wrong. It’s as if the person who’s just doing their job isn’t a real person with the ability to make choices and moral decisions. Instead they’re just an unthinking cog in the government machine with no more choice or responsibility than a photocopier or fax machine.
I like that “the 19%” the police, prison officers and mental health workers … people who will hurt you and say well sorry but “I am just doing my job”.
You nailed it with that one.