But real socialism will never work, and imo, it will never work because it was based on Marx’s faulty assumption that humans are generally altruistic and will work communally for the common good. I don’t think this, in many cases, is reflective of human nature, because, as animals, we need to preserve ourselves and protect our self-interests. Socialism has only “worked” and I’m using this term loosely, with immense amounts of coercion. Socialism, as it looks today, is much, much more of a top-down approach, sneakily disguised as something that is beneficial to the majority. Just think back to the Soviet Union, when being anti-government was a mental illness. Does anyone want our lovely NIMH encroaching any further into our lives than they already are? Big government is a threat to all of us because they are so intricately linked with Big Pharma, and the like, and really, whose best interests are they looking after?
Alex,
I’m glad you are getting something out of my writing. I really hope you to check out our blog. Maybe you will find some guidance and healing there. I’m sorry to hear about what happened with your brother; it’s terrible and “extreme narcissism” is just the tip of it. If you want to apply a DSM label that even comes close it would have to be “antisocial personality disorder”, although I’m not too much a fan of the idea of a personality disorder. I just think that some people are completely devoid of compassion, empathy, and a conscience. It really is sad.
I love that you used the term “gaslighting”! That explains it perfectly!
It also does seem that a lot of people who are highly educated are often perpetrators, and I attribute some of that to the fact that often perpetrators are in the healthcare field; they just gravitate to that. And you have to be highly educated to be an MD, or whatever.
I really hope you do find healing and it’s great that you are forgiving your brother. That has to be so hard. I’m often asked if I forgive my mother, and it is hard to answer. I mean she took her own life, and she looked so sad when I saw her dead, and of course I don’t want that for anyone. But, forgiveness… I’m not too sure.
Thank you so much for those kind words! It means a lot to me; how someone who doesn’t even know me can be so kind. I really appreciate it and hope our paths will cross as well. : )
Thank you so much for your kind words! In the literature on MSbP, there is a lot disagreement about what name it should be called, and whether it should be considered a mental illness or not; that is, what labels should be attributed to it. However, like I have said, I don’t think it’s a mental illness at all; just a list of behaviors and while the literature will exhaust one with all the case studies, we at the Proxy Project want to find out why it happens, what happens to its victims, and what we can do about healing. While different PHDs are being tit for tat about what to call it, we want to do something about it!
I am so sorry to hear about your sister! It terrifies me that doctors hand out psychiatric medications like they are candy. It’s appalling because they are so dangerous and your sister is proof of that! My sister had a bad trip on the psych meds as well. My mom killed herself, and she got prescribed an antidepressant for being (reasonably) upset, and then she attempts suicide herself! Then goes manic, and bam! She’s bipolar! I think she has gotten a bit better now, although I don’t speak with her much. She is too much like my mother.
I work kind of on the outskirts of the healthcare system; I’m a case manager for individuals with disabilities and sometimes I have to administer medications. It really disturbs me because they are on so many psych drugs. It’s like because they are developmentally delayed, they need to be diagnosed with every mental disorder in existence. I really think we are a bunch of guinea pigs with this whole psychopharmacology thing!
Anyways, sorry to ramble, but I can certainly understand your frustration. Keep your head up!
I’m so sorry to hear that you are going through all this! It’s horrible, but please don’t give up! I have been seeing a craniosacral therapist. Maybe something along those lines could work for you. He works with individuals who are getting off their psych meds.
Your life isn’t over. I only have my experience to go by, but I have to say that life is so much better when the fog is lifted and I’m not shackled down by the pills. Withdrawals may be a bitch, and you may go crazy for awhile (I know I did!) but life is so much better without them. It just takes time. Have you tried herbal supplements? Melatonin really helps me with sleep.
I sincerely wish you all the best and hope you get things figured out because your life isn’t over!
As a student of sociology, I understand the importance of labels. It is human nature to categorize things; it makes it easier for us to understand things. Now, I am certainly against psychiatric labeling, as I believe it is stigmatizing. However, current literature on MSbP states it as a mental disorder, which we on the Proxy Project are trying to get away from. It’s as much of a mental disorder as any other- that is, it is just a cluster of abstract “symptoms”, but we use this label to categorize certain behaviors which, when thrust upon an innocent victim can be very dangerous. It’s like, when a past therapist first suggested this could be a possibility for me, it was like, “Wow! There’s a name for it!” I guess it makes it easier to grasp in some ways. But we do understand that it’s not an organic pathology, just perhaps a learned behavior, and we aren’t advocating the use of medications in any way. I hope this clarifies things a bit!
About the Justina Peltier case, please refer to the website I write for: https://proxyprojectresearch.wordpress.com/
We have a couple of posts about this exact case, and how we hypothesize that it is a provider type of MSbP.
If you are interested, read the book “Help at Any Cost”. It is so informative. It really helped me understand the Troubled Teen Industry, and how malicious it is.
You are right about that! It’s funny because my mother was a psychiatrist, so in my youth people automatically believed what she had to say instead of me.
Thank you! I try! The thing is, I for the longest time, I thought the residential facilities in which I was placed were actually normal modalities of treatment. It took me awhile to understand that it wasn’t normal! Especially S.A.F.E!!! Fortunately it has been closed down, but unfortunately, there are other similar programs still in existence.
Thank you for your very thorough and informative response! I have had a very long day in the sun, but will spend some time this week reading through your facts and data. Very interesting!
I only had a brief experience of the really bad withdrawals, although I must admit, when I took myself off the meds completely, I went a little crazy! It certainly is like a prison, because you need the meds to get out of the withdrawal, but you don’t want to be on them in the first place!
It sounds like your program isn’t a bad one. They aren’t all bad. I work at a treatment facility for people with special needs, and although the individuals are on an obscene amount of medication, the program isn’t at all like what I experienced. I wish you the best of luck on your journey! : )
But real socialism will never work, and imo, it will never work because it was based on Marx’s faulty assumption that humans are generally altruistic and will work communally for the common good. I don’t think this, in many cases, is reflective of human nature, because, as animals, we need to preserve ourselves and protect our self-interests. Socialism has only “worked” and I’m using this term loosely, with immense amounts of coercion. Socialism, as it looks today, is much, much more of a top-down approach, sneakily disguised as something that is beneficial to the majority. Just think back to the Soviet Union, when being anti-government was a mental illness. Does anyone want our lovely NIMH encroaching any further into our lives than they already are? Big government is a threat to all of us because they are so intricately linked with Big Pharma, and the like, and really, whose best interests are they looking after?
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Emilie,
Thank you so much for your kind words! Yes, you can translate my text and put it on your web zine. It would be an honor.
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Alex,
I’m glad you are getting something out of my writing. I really hope you to check out our blog. Maybe you will find some guidance and healing there. I’m sorry to hear about what happened with your brother; it’s terrible and “extreme narcissism” is just the tip of it. If you want to apply a DSM label that even comes close it would have to be “antisocial personality disorder”, although I’m not too much a fan of the idea of a personality disorder. I just think that some people are completely devoid of compassion, empathy, and a conscience. It really is sad.
I love that you used the term “gaslighting”! That explains it perfectly!
It also does seem that a lot of people who are highly educated are often perpetrators, and I attribute some of that to the fact that often perpetrators are in the healthcare field; they just gravitate to that. And you have to be highly educated to be an MD, or whatever.
I really hope you do find healing and it’s great that you are forgiving your brother. That has to be so hard. I’m often asked if I forgive my mother, and it is hard to answer. I mean she took her own life, and she looked so sad when I saw her dead, and of course I don’t want that for anyone. But, forgiveness… I’m not too sure.
Anyways, thanks for your comments!
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Thank you so much for those kind words! It means a lot to me; how someone who doesn’t even know me can be so kind. I really appreciate it and hope our paths will cross as well. : )
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Thank you so much for your kind words! In the literature on MSbP, there is a lot disagreement about what name it should be called, and whether it should be considered a mental illness or not; that is, what labels should be attributed to it. However, like I have said, I don’t think it’s a mental illness at all; just a list of behaviors and while the literature will exhaust one with all the case studies, we at the Proxy Project want to find out why it happens, what happens to its victims, and what we can do about healing. While different PHDs are being tit for tat about what to call it, we want to do something about it!
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I am so sorry to hear about your sister! It terrifies me that doctors hand out psychiatric medications like they are candy. It’s appalling because they are so dangerous and your sister is proof of that! My sister had a bad trip on the psych meds as well. My mom killed herself, and she got prescribed an antidepressant for being (reasonably) upset, and then she attempts suicide herself! Then goes manic, and bam! She’s bipolar! I think she has gotten a bit better now, although I don’t speak with her much. She is too much like my mother.
I work kind of on the outskirts of the healthcare system; I’m a case manager for individuals with disabilities and sometimes I have to administer medications. It really disturbs me because they are on so many psych drugs. It’s like because they are developmentally delayed, they need to be diagnosed with every mental disorder in existence. I really think we are a bunch of guinea pigs with this whole psychopharmacology thing!
Anyways, sorry to ramble, but I can certainly understand your frustration. Keep your head up!
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I’m so sorry to hear that you are going through all this! It’s horrible, but please don’t give up! I have been seeing a craniosacral therapist. Maybe something along those lines could work for you. He works with individuals who are getting off their psych meds.
Your life isn’t over. I only have my experience to go by, but I have to say that life is so much better when the fog is lifted and I’m not shackled down by the pills. Withdrawals may be a bitch, and you may go crazy for awhile (I know I did!) but life is so much better without them. It just takes time. Have you tried herbal supplements? Melatonin really helps me with sleep.
I sincerely wish you all the best and hope you get things figured out because your life isn’t over!
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Thank you so much for your kind words!
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As a student of sociology, I understand the importance of labels. It is human nature to categorize things; it makes it easier for us to understand things. Now, I am certainly against psychiatric labeling, as I believe it is stigmatizing. However, current literature on MSbP states it as a mental disorder, which we on the Proxy Project are trying to get away from. It’s as much of a mental disorder as any other- that is, it is just a cluster of abstract “symptoms”, but we use this label to categorize certain behaviors which, when thrust upon an innocent victim can be very dangerous. It’s like, when a past therapist first suggested this could be a possibility for me, it was like, “Wow! There’s a name for it!” I guess it makes it easier to grasp in some ways. But we do understand that it’s not an organic pathology, just perhaps a learned behavior, and we aren’t advocating the use of medications in any way. I hope this clarifies things a bit!
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About the Justina Peltier case, please refer to the website I write for: https://proxyprojectresearch.wordpress.com/
We have a couple of posts about this exact case, and how we hypothesize that it is a provider type of MSbP.
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If you are interested, read the book “Help at Any Cost”. It is so informative. It really helped me understand the Troubled Teen Industry, and how malicious it is.
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You are right about that! It’s funny because my mother was a psychiatrist, so in my youth people automatically believed what she had to say instead of me.
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Thank you! I try! The thing is, I for the longest time, I thought the residential facilities in which I was placed were actually normal modalities of treatment. It took me awhile to understand that it wasn’t normal! Especially S.A.F.E!!! Fortunately it has been closed down, but unfortunately, there are other similar programs still in existence.
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Thank you for your very thorough and informative response! I have had a very long day in the sun, but will spend some time this week reading through your facts and data. Very interesting!
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I only had a brief experience of the really bad withdrawals, although I must admit, when I took myself off the meds completely, I went a little crazy! It certainly is like a prison, because you need the meds to get out of the withdrawal, but you don’t want to be on them in the first place!
It sounds like your program isn’t a bad one. They aren’t all bad. I work at a treatment facility for people with special needs, and although the individuals are on an obscene amount of medication, the program isn’t at all like what I experienced. I wish you the best of luck on your journey! : )
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