Thursday, February 9, 2023

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  • Just remember if these symptoms are due to reducing Effexor, then they will probably go away eventually.

    In the meantime, see your PCP.

    I’m not a health practitioner; however, I do have issues with my lymphatic system. Getting my lymphatic system cleansed and moving helped me fight off colds. It also helped reduce itchiness. If you are interested, you can find information about natural treatments for the lymphatic system online.

  • Before SSRIs, people drank alcohol to reduce anxiety and depression. Alcohol reduces inhibitions. People are more likely to do something they will regret under the influence of alcohol. People with violent tendencies may become more violent. But people who aren’t murders aren’t going to go kill someone just because they had something to drink. We have something called free will.

    It’s the same with SSRIs. An SSRI isn’t going to make a person who is not a murderer go out and kill someone. Therefore, a psychiatrist is not and should not be held responsible for someone else committing murder. That would be like holding a bartender responsible for any crimes committed by anyone the bartender had served. We, as individuals, are responsible for our actions. We can’t blame our actions on bartenders and psychiatrists.

    As for the side effect of committing suicide, medicines work that way. A painkiller can cause rebound headaches. An anti-inflammatory can cause greater susceptibility to inflammation. And an SSRI can increase depression.

    So what are SSRIs good for? They worked wonders for me when I first took them. I was able to stop my compulsive, negative thinking. I wasn’t so sensitive to what others said. I didn’t take things so personally. It was like getting the effects of alcohol without getting drunk. However, the SSRIs gradually stopped working. Their side effects increased. And it was extremely difficult to get off of them. I don’t regret having been on SSRIs. I regret having been on them for so long. And then there is a risk of getting extremely depressed if one decides to stop taking SSRIs. Anyone who is suicidal should not be given SSRIs.

    Many psychiatrists over-prescribe SSRIs. SSRIs are an easy and quick way to make patients feel better. The idea is for SSRIs to reduce depression/anxiety so that psychiatrists can help their patients work on their depression/anxiety. However, the reality is that once a patient has been prescribed SSRIs, any attempt to get off of the SSRIs will increase depression/anxiety. What’s worse is that if the SSRIs stop working, psychiatrists don’t respond by taking patients off of them. Instead, they want to increase the dosage or add another medication. However, this will only result in greater side effects and greater difficulty of getting off of the SSRIs. Still, it is what psychiatrists recommend.

    Based on my personal experience, it may take only several days for the SSRIs to leave the body, but the changes that have been done to the body take much longer to resolve. The depression/anxiety after getting off of SSRIs is intense and lasts a long time.

  • I don’t know. When I first took the SSRI, it really helped me. I had spent my life taking very tiny baby steps. The steps were too small to get anywhere. The SSRI helped me get over that. I was taking giant steps when I was first on the SSRI. It was just that the SSRI stopped working, and the side effects kept getting worse. It was also extremely difficult to get off the SSRI. The medical community will say that the SSRI is out of the system after a short time. However, the damage it has done lasts a long time. I was at my worst eight months after getting off the SSRI. And no, things like cognitive behavior therapy aren’t enough.

  • I think there could be underlying nutritional issues (in addition to emotional issues) that result in anxiety and depression. I used to think that SSRI’s were a miracle drug because they took away all my anxiety and depression. But then they stopped working, and the negative side effects were getting worse. I listened to a lot of health summits and tried many things. I found that folate (not folic acid), avoiding sugar, and avoiding wheat, rye, and barley substantially reduced my anxiety and depression. I’m not saying these things take the anxiety and depression away completely. I’m also not saying these things will work for everyone. I’m just saying there is probably a reason for the anxiety and depression, and it’s good to try to figure out what that reason is so that you can solve it. It might take many years to figure it out, and you may never figure it out. Still I think it’s worth it to look into it because even though SSRI’s may take away the anxiety and depression in the beginning, they could stop working and they could end up doing more harm than good.

  • The benefits must be weighed with the costs. I first took an SSRI for multiple reasons, including the fact that I had an auto-immune condition, and stress would cause me to flare. The SSRI really helped reduce my stress, anxiety, and depression. However, it also gave me side effects, predominately brain fog, no interest in sex, ringing in the ears, loss of sensitivity to the feelings of others (I didn’t understand why people got so bothered by things), and sleep disturbances. Eventually, the medication wasn’t doing anything for my stress, anxiety, or depression, and the brain fog was getting really bad (even though my doctor told me that SSRI’s don’t give brain fog). I wanted to get off the SSRI. So I went to see my doctor to figure out how I should taper off the medication. Since my anxiety and depression levels were back to being high, my doctor’s recommendation was to double my dosage. That’s when I realized I would have to get off the SSRI on my own. It was very difficult. I tapered very slowly. I started getting panic attacks all the time. My auto-immune disease came back. I temporarily went back on the SSRI, thinking it would resolve the flareup from my auto-immune disease. It didn’t. I ended up being sick for one year, bedridden for 5 1/2 months, and hospitalized 3 times. Once I was in remission, I tapered off the SSRI. This time it was easier to taper off it having tapered off it the first time. I still have anxiety and depression issues, but they aren’t as bad as when I was on the SSRI and getting all those negative side effects. Plus, the side effects have been lessening over time. I don’t regret taking an SSRI. I regret taking it for too long. Yet, I was on a low dosage. Imagine if I had been on a larger dose.