You should probably keep on chewing cause you’re obviously new to the material/subject.
The situation is a little more nuanced than people are used to hearing and, like anything, appeals to only a specific groups when you keep it in the confines of psychiatry or mental illness. It needs to be connected to mass incarceration, homelessness and poverty/inequality in general for broader appeal.
-Mike Gaeta
Those dietary suggestions may work for someone who is more rationale. But thanks anyways.
40% of the people with SMI, so 40% of 3-5% of the US population. I thought I was more specific in an earlier post. Probably got confused with what I wrote in Alternet. So chew on that stat for a second, if you can.
That 40% figures comes from multiples sources, including NAMI and NIMH. Not sure what their methodology exactly is, but probably combination family surveys and data/info collected from providers and/or hospitals. Are some of these people misdiagnosed or falsely diagnosed? Probably. It’s not an exact science. Which behavioral science is? But the evidence is clear that these people are the ones that disproportionately end up in jails/prisons, in and out of ERs, homeless, victims of violence, in some cases the perpetrators. Conveniently, the MH system currently is setup in a way to not treat and/or support these people at all. Funny that the author doesn’t blame the govt. or actual MH system for any of this.
Thanks. A satisfactory rebuttal would take an article in and of itself. I’ve contacted Alternet, where the article originally appeared, and asked them if I could write one that they would publish.
-Mike Gaeta
See my comment above.
-Mike Gaeta
My mom has never taken psyche drugs. You want to know what’s bad for one’s health? Letting someone slide deeper and deeper into psychotic episodes w/out any help/treatment. The author cherry picks examples and ignores a lot of other info/studies out there that counter and weaken his POV. Yes, meds have negative side effects and that needs to be addressed. But medical problems develop or become exacerbated anyways, especially among groups that seem prone to such ailments, like diabetes. Who comes to mind? Latinos, for one. My mom has been a long-time diabetes sufferer. Her lack of self-care, due to her MI, has allowed the diabetes to do more damage over time.
And the author conveniently leaves out the 40% of the population with SMI that is not receiving treatment at any time, like my mom. You include that group and it’s much harder for him or others to posit what they are.
Wow…there are some good criticisms of psychiatry, but to focus on it as being the primary or even main problem in premature death defies logic. Wow, again. To just contend one point/example, you focus on cig smoking, but there are numerous physical ailments that can develop, due to someone not being adequately treated and/or supported. Let me try a few: diabetes, congestive heart failure, kidney disease, cataracts, brain tumor(s). How do I know? Cause my mother suffers from them all and each has developed or been made worse by not receiving treatment. She doesn’t believe she is ill! People like her need stabilization that meds can only provide, along of course with social and family support. If you guys are going to post a bunch of one sided crap like this, you should at least let someone give a rebuttal.
-Mike Gaeta
You should probably keep on chewing cause you’re obviously new to the material/subject.
The situation is a little more nuanced than people are used to hearing and, like anything, appeals to only a specific groups when you keep it in the confines of psychiatry or mental illness. It needs to be connected to mass incarceration, homelessness and poverty/inequality in general for broader appeal.
-Mike Gaeta
Those dietary suggestions may work for someone who is more rationale. But thanks anyways.
40% of the people with SMI, so 40% of 3-5% of the US population. I thought I was more specific in an earlier post. Probably got confused with what I wrote in Alternet. So chew on that stat for a second, if you can.
That 40% figures comes from multiples sources, including NAMI and NIMH. Not sure what their methodology exactly is, but probably combination family surveys and data/info collected from providers and/or hospitals. Are some of these people misdiagnosed or falsely diagnosed? Probably. It’s not an exact science. Which behavioral science is? But the evidence is clear that these people are the ones that disproportionately end up in jails/prisons, in and out of ERs, homeless, victims of violence, in some cases the perpetrators. Conveniently, the MH system currently is setup in a way to not treat and/or support these people at all. Funny that the author doesn’t blame the govt. or actual MH system for any of this.
Thanks. A satisfactory rebuttal would take an article in and of itself. I’ve contacted Alternet, where the article originally appeared, and asked them if I could write one that they would publish.
-Mike Gaeta
See my comment above.
-Mike Gaeta
My mom has never taken psyche drugs. You want to know what’s bad for one’s health? Letting someone slide deeper and deeper into psychotic episodes w/out any help/treatment. The author cherry picks examples and ignores a lot of other info/studies out there that counter and weaken his POV. Yes, meds have negative side effects and that needs to be addressed. But medical problems develop or become exacerbated anyways, especially among groups that seem prone to such ailments, like diabetes. Who comes to mind? Latinos, for one. My mom has been a long-time diabetes sufferer. Her lack of self-care, due to her MI, has allowed the diabetes to do more damage over time.
And the author conveniently leaves out the 40% of the population with SMI that is not receiving treatment at any time, like my mom. You include that group and it’s much harder for him or others to posit what they are.
Wow…there are some good criticisms of psychiatry, but to focus on it as being the primary or even main problem in premature death defies logic. Wow, again. To just contend one point/example, you focus on cig smoking, but there are numerous physical ailments that can develop, due to someone not being adequately treated and/or supported. Let me try a few: diabetes, congestive heart failure, kidney disease, cataracts, brain tumor(s). How do I know? Cause my mother suffers from them all and each has developed or been made worse by not receiving treatment. She doesn’t believe she is ill! People like her need stabilization that meds can only provide, along of course with social and family support. If you guys are going to post a bunch of one sided crap like this, you should at least let someone give a rebuttal.
-Mike Gaeta