Sunday, October 2, 2022

Comments by RockieRaven

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  • I also want to add: medication when someone is already in crisis is so incredibly dangerous. Medication has to be expiremented. Some medications will help a lot, but many others will make things a thousand times worse. Should you take that gamble when someone is already on the verge of suicide? The issue is that it takes two weeks for most psychiatric drugs to start making a difference. Therefore, any negative effects aren’t noticed until two weeks after the medication is started. At that point, you can’t simply go off the medication to stop the negative effects. You have to ween off slowly and try something else, with the drugs still effecting you for weeks or months. Drugs should be experimented with overtime when a patient is already very stable. Drugs are a prevention, not a cure. When someone is in crisis – especially their first one, treatment should primarily be therapy. However, therapy for psychotic people is non existent. You actually have to have a special certificate in most states to be legally allowed to treat a psychotic person. For two years I was psychotic and alone, and I searched my entire state and could not find one therapist that is trained to work with actively psychotic people. So I experimented with drugs and went in and out of hospitals. Attempted suicide twice (once after over three months of planning). Until I found: a boyfriend that could help and medications that actually worked. Hoping to magically be prescribed the drugs that will work for you your first go around is like expecting to win the lottery. It doesn’t happen. But mental hospitals only use drugs and they convince families that they will probably work. When it is the opposite. People don’t go off their meds because “they started to get better and didn’t think they needed it anymore” like all these stupid websites and main stream media claims. People get worse on their meds and have to go off them to save their own lives. Try being in a crisis caused by medication and your psychiatrist won’t see you for two weeks. What do you think is going to happen? They also pretend like it’s the physical side effects that people go off of meds for. No. The meds made me so manic I lost my mind. The meds made me so depressed I was about to kill myself. But it’s my fault I’m not getting better because I’m “not giving them a chance to work.”

  • My point is: being told that you are completely insane when what you are telling someone something that is true on some level is incredibly painful (in that moment). I can go back and laugh at delusions I had. For example, one time I was convinced the CIA was breaking into our house and stealing my under wear (lol). My husband didn’t take me to the mental hospital as my family had in the past. He went through all the laundry, found all my under wear, and showed me that it wasn’t likely because there was less under wear missing than I expected. In that moment, it was incredibly embarrassing to immediately switch to thinking something I fully believed was outrageous. I held on to it. And he let me. He said but maybe they are but we are going to do a better job at keeping the house all locked up and the security system on. If someone does break into the house, our dog will bark. To this day I get micro delusions where I think someone is in the house and the first thought that calms me down is that my dog hasn’t barked, he is very sensitive and protective. This gives me the courage to check the house myself and know that no one is there. Now, because I had a lot of time to distance myself from the delusion (we simply didn’t talk about it for months after I stablized) I can finally look back at the delusion and laugh. I cannot laugh about almost any other delusion I had because the way I was ripped out of them was so devestatingly painful and embarrassing. This was a major difference between how my family reacted and how my then boyfriend and now husband reacted. He saved my life. He has a lot of bipolar people in his family and he had the experience to know what to do. It’s incredibly rare and I was very lucky.

  • As a young person who has had severe delusions due to bipolar disorder – I can say that she most likely did believe that she was in love with the Russian and that she actually was communicating on him at some level (spiritually). Truth is she could have been communicating with his spirit or a different entity pretending to be him. I wasn’t very religious until I began having these types of delusions. I think there is a spiritual component – and this is completely ignored by the main stream aethiest scientific community.

  • I was 21 when I first hospitalized myself for suicidal thoughts. Since then I have been hospitalized against my will seven times. Every time I went into the hospital I got worse. I didn’t realize it at the time but the reason why I was getting worse was because my family was not supporting me (at all). For example, during my third hospitalization (which was my first manic episode caused by Zoloft) they decided to illegally take my dog to the pound. The reason why my family wasn’t supporting me, was because I was unable to communicate and the hospital did not attempt to communicate for me. When I went in voluntarily, the psychiatrist, social worker, and therapist all talked to me for hours and helped me problem solve, until I finally felt better and checked myself out to go home. That was the only voluntary stay and the only benefial one. Going to the hospital involuntarily was a different story. Most of the patients there involuntarily do not have a mental disorder such as depression or bipolar: they are drug addicts being forcibly detoxed off drugs. The psychotic ward is a different planet compared to the suicide ward. My “mental health team” talked to me inifisuslly for just a few minutes every few days. They treated me like everything I had to say was crazy (it wasn’t, I was a victim of kidnapping at the hands of an ex boyfriend (he kept me for a week) and went to the ER. No one believed me there or in the mental hospital because of my record.) and there was no point in talking to me at all. At this time they are charging my insurance $2000-$6000 a day – and I mostly sat in a dayroom full of criminals with nothing to do but be terrified that one would snap and hurt or kill me. They offered no therapy, no family therapy, almost nothing but a room with bars on the window. Don’t blame your self for her death. In most cases, it is entirely the hospitals fault. They failed to inform you how you could help her (because they haven’t even researched what is best or attempted different strategies to figure it out, ever). They did nothing to help her and instead put her in a stressful, dangerous, humiliating environment against her will. They save money by throwing all the people who are only mental disordered and not drug addicts into the same wards. People with actual mental disorders are the tiny minority. You can easily understand how counter productive this is. Suicide rates three months post discharge are 15 times higher. The suicide rate the immediate week following a discharge is 264 times higher than the national average (for women). you want to help prevent this from happening: learn more about the hospitals your daughter did not receive treatment from and spread awareness that mental hospitals will only cause more harm and do nothing to help (98% of the time, imo). This is why your daughter died. It’s not your fault. You are blameless. You did what you could with the tiny amount of information that was available to you.

    Source for suicide rates:

  • Psychiatric facilities detain patients who are on good insurance or in the military (as these will automatically pay 14 days of claims). In fact, they prefer these patients as they are also usually easier to manage then the poor and homeless. I was held against my will for 2 weeks plus on four occasions. Not meeting crieteria at all. Completely involuntary from the start. No right to appeal the decision. People don’t understand that a few doctors get to make this decision and don’t have to consult a judge or the patient for 17 days. At least in Nevada or Utah where I was held. And apparently in California. Your best bet if you find yourself in this situation: call your insurance, ask for a case manager, tell them what’s going on and hope they deny further claims. That is literally the only way to bypass before 17 days. You cannot demand to see a judge or anything before that. I learned this by the fourth time but they simply refused to give me my own insurance companies phone number. I have it memorized as a precaution now.

  • The “approach” in Nevada and Utah is to lock a patient in a jail-like “hospital”, scam their insurance for thousands of dollars a day, blackmail them into overmedicating (which they keep adjusting to justify keeping you longer to your insurance), and as consequence keeping you from everything you need to manage psychotic symptoms. When I was “psychotic” I desperately needed to write: but I wasn’t allowed to have a pen or anything to type on. I was only given a pencil, for limited time and they often refused to sharpen it. I would lay in bed all night desperately needing to write just one sentence down but unable to I couldn’t sleep and the voices wouldn’t let me forget it, so they would chant.

    If I wanted to do research on some outlandish theory I wasn’t allowed to! This is what helps me get back into reality the most! But I’m not allowed to have books or internet or stable people to bounce ideas off of. I wasn’t allowed music or spending time with people I love and trust and my biggest support in the world (my dog) was taken to the pound as a punishment from my sadistic family.

    I entered into depths of “psychotic symptoms” I know I never would have NOT LOCKED IN THOSE INSTITUTIONS. The extreme, fast cycling delusions I experienced were not natural. And I don’t even think it was the meds. It was my age, experience, and what they were putting me through.

    Most of you people will have no idea. The only ones that do are the ones that saw people completely lost in their own world while in the hospital. That’s what I was. I saw others that before I progressed into it myself two hospitalizations. I thought they were born with it and had it activated through trauma. Not trauma outside the hospital. The hospital creates it 100%.

    And there are very few things more painful than this manufactured psychosis to experience. Most don’t survive. I barely have but if I get locked inside again anytime soon I surely won’t. I gotta stay out at least a year to stay lucid. Otherwise I’m dead.