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The victim’s voices are nearly always omitted.
Hi Valeriandreams, I added your story onto our Psych Victims website at: https://www.psychvictims.com/stories/view/unethical-sexual-violence-against-me-is-seen-as-justified-in-the-eyes-of-the-law
It’s repulsive how people are treated as lesser humans due to this. You’re equal and deserve to be treated that way, not frightened like an animal.
Even with mainstream organizations, victims may not have a say. RiseUS just created their FIRST ever “Survivors Town Hall” at the United Nations General Assembly in NYC, this 2019.
“unethical sexual violence against me is seen as justified in the eyes of the law” – I hope that we can continue to push these problems into the mainstream. I’m active with the Free Britney Spears rallies and movements. It’s pushing it into the mainstream. I see nothing about it here – but it’s changing, slowly.
I posted your story Luna on PsychVictims.com at: https://www.psychvictims.com/stories/view/medically-raped-stripped-handcuffed-for-being-on-top-of-building
It’s all about dehumanization, punishment, and violating the person more in the ER, so that they emotionally (naturally) react more in the psych ward, so that they can use those natural emotions to being violated for their false imprisonment.
They especially rape the person more medically when they go to the ER with cops. What right does the “medical/psych field” have to punish people medically because police brought them there instead of a different way?
it’s disturbing. In fact, because of such events, the person may act out for years, which causes more problems for authorities and order. It is AGAINST their best interest to violate people like you and others… But they won’t see it because victims have to hide.
Enemas seem to be very disturbing procedures in any sense. It may be liability that he wouldn’t allow self-administration, but it is very wrong to simply drug a person with psych drugs like Zyprexa (not even a sedative) and force their hands into you. Why a psych drug? Sexual violations are always wrong.
It’s always disturbing to have ‘hands held’ (or in this case, stroked) while in a violating procedure against one’s will… as if they actually have any ‘compassion’ and honestly, it is another violation of personal space/privacy.
I wouldn’t use any psych terms to describe yourself though, including the heavily desired ‘ptsd’ as it is another way to psych a person out, and label them as ‘mentally ill’/’damaged’/going to self-death etc. Of course a person is affected negatively from experiences, but that doesn’t have to be a disorder, but a natural reaction.
Carry on! Also, please check out Everyday Psych Victims Project and Motivationology! Motivationology as an alternative to so-called “mental health” and EPVP as a platform for anti-psych and cataloging victimization.
Robinwren217, I completely believe what happened to you and that it was wrong. We’ve heard many stories of people getting restrained naked now, and also even left alone while forced to be naked in isolated rooms. They of course won’t write any of this happening in records or it will be simply one line.
It is screwed worldwide and in any state! They don’t believe psych people as it is the epitome of victim-blaming. Investigations don’t work and won’t.
It is good that this is happening, otherwise, I doubt that this article would have EVER been written or formed, honestly. (Me too/Us too).
However, as you say, I don’t think many will be exposed. After all, “mental health” is there to exploit victims. You’ll see tons of ‘abused’ people in psych wards or forced into psych. Definitely ‘sexual’ anything is thought as highly damaging, when really, it is the reactions to it which seem more ‘damaging’ and the blaming. Then, this negativity sets in, the push for dependency, the horribly shocking restraints that freak a person out and mess up for a while, and then of course, the drugs.
Yes, nothing will be done for us. This is the first time ‘forced catheters’ and other issues is even being taken seriously. Perhaps, never again. Once diagnosed, you aren’t human. Say you’re normal and somebody finds out forced ‘history,’ then you must have a problem. Always the problem, and ‘medical professionals’ cannot do wrong. Worship them.
After all, I tried ALL KINDS OF REPORTING!! Oh, endlessly. Did anything happen? Nope. It all started with Texas Christian in 2014. I was anti-psych always. Turns out, psych is in all medical fields and in 2015, added to the MCAT.
“Don’t psych me out” doesn’t get said anymore. Instead, people think ‘health’ is ‘wellness’ instead of normal emotions. People can have emotions. Doesn’t make it ‘sickness.’ Also, it isn’t just here. Try other sexual exploitative things like rumors. Nobody will do anything, especially if it is from certain relations.
Thanks all for sharing your stories.
That is really disgusting and violating to go through. Being watched naked makes a person feel like an animal, shamed, and as if the watched victim is wrong. Also, I hate how they do bathroom checks. Recall that Alhambra Hospital in Los Angeles/around that city. Like really? Then they go and rationalize it like (not to me but in general at the brainwashing/programming ‘group therapy’ sessions they require or get punished with not increasing levels/called ‘not getting better’/not ‘complying’) that “you want to kill yourself, so I have to check on you in the bathrooms.” Weird.
Yes, I’ve been trolled online endlessly (and in person) for being “anti mental health.” They don’t know that it was “mental hygiene.” (you know, like racial or social hygiene/eugenics).
Apparently, all ‘medical professionals’ just EXPECT everyone to be on drugs, even at eye appointments. Put allergies down, and they will ask if on any drugs. “I guess nearly everyone is on drugs these days.” “yes.” (pretty much?) And we know those probably are often psych drugs or silly things. It is wrong for EMTs to ask psych drug history, than say you denying it when say no. It is really medical trafficking.
Yes, I even heard a nurse say in Sacramento (forgot the name of the place atm :P) that they TURNED OFF THE CAMERA as a person was being restrained.
Yes, they write very very little. However, they will write tons of misconstrued lies in order to argue it in front of a judge and rationalize. Being quiet will turn into ‘catatonic’ (like how they LIED to get my on a psych eval by those psychs). Also, the EMTs claimed I ‘denied’ ‘mental health’ history and was ‘erratic.’ More BS garbage. I was called hyperverbal in the ER, and I was saying stupid political stuff bc I was nervous, really. They wouldn’t let me leave when all I needed was water at Cedars Sinai. Blocked my door as well.
Just don’t travel alone… because an ambulance is there to exploit you.
I don’t know how long, but one poster said they were catheterized in 1984, but they didn’t say if it was forced or not. I just assume that it has always been happening. Things tend to be worse before they get better.
I think it also has to do with insurance, getting paid for tests (e.g., a test in cash at LabCorp costs $100 EACH for bloodwork), and calling a person falsely ‘gravely disabled’ or a ‘danger to self.’ Disabled like you cannot take care of yourself.
Those people at Evergreen in Kirkland Washington also laughed at my pain, at my screaming, and my wishes for wanting it to stop. I remember now. I kind of forgot. But also said I was like some fighter women or something… ‘some woman.’ Weird, and disgusting. But it isn’t the first time psych people have laughed.
What happened to you is so disgusting, wrong, and I totally can see it happening. Other psych victims have said that they’ve been naked and isolated in rooms, or even restrained while nude. It’s dehumanizing, horrible, and infuriating when no heath departments, or any advocacy group, or ‘rights’ groups even care.
Because you were somehow falsely called a ‘danger to self or others’ (this never made sense to me bc self-defense is a ‘danger’ to who you are defending against, but NOT yourself, so I guess self-defense doesn’t exist either), they can humiliate and wrong you. I guess they only take the notes which are written, and of course they don’t write these details.
If you get your records, it will be totally different most likely than your experience or really really short. And their words take preference over the victim’s.
It’s horrible and I hope Everyday Psych Victims Project can do something… It’s not easy to start, but gathering stories and being on the ‘extreme’ end of abolishing/exposing all ‘mental health’ is a good way to get things said that otherwise wouldn’t be.
All of this is so wrong and infuriating. It also is awful too because exposing it makes people think there is something wrong with YOU. I, also, since psych stuff happened in 2014, haven’t been able to get recommendation letters from anyone, when it used to be as easy as pie pre-2014. Once somebody sees a conspiracy, or you are gone bc INVOLUNTARILY HELD, they don’t care. I also have no clue if teachers knew what for or not. Lying it was car accidents, but clearly no broken bones or anything. Then they then blame you. Try saying “anti mental health” barely on FB, then trolls attack your profile.
IT IS THEM, not us.
Likely the lying in the park being illegal part has to do with homelessness. People who are homeless basically can be medically trafficked. Let’s call all this medical trafficking. For example, I tested it out once in Sacramento to ask some people about shelters. One worker at Walmart’s reaction? “Why don’t you go to a hospital?” “No, they would kill me!” So he agreed and backed off, again, has NO idea about ANY shelters in their city of what, 400,000 people? Same ignorance by the desk staff. Also, imagine having ANY idea of getting there. People also won’t let people inside because they have dogs… or if they DO… they can call 911 on you, just like when I was tired while driving in Washington at night that Jan 2014.
But how creepy is it… mind you that they had NO IDEA OR ANY WAY of knowing ANY ex-diagnosis during this test. So what is it? Hospitals are the new torture centers? Seems like it. Meanwhile, forget finding a TEMPORARY PLACE TO JUST CHILL OUT AND GO HOME LATER.
What is “snowing”? Is that drugging so much that people have terrible physical effects? Yes, it is for profit. It’s medical trafficking. And it’s like our version of being trafficked from network to network. All assault, even sexually violating, is ‘legal.’
I don’t turn rage toward myself – I externalize. That’s a huge part of Motivationology theory. However, I did get in trouble not only at 1 university, but 2 for “mental health” related/”behavior” BS. It’s not allowed to say it is wrong especially when connected to MH (victim is always wrong), and then for many, the sexual things are also not allowed bc oooooh it must really wreck a person. But I think MH is worse…
Thanks so much for commenting here, Daryl 😀
That is nice, though the worst, and most intense situations were in emergency rooms. Even though shorter, there were far more people crying, screaming NO once in other rooms, restraints, and forced catheters. It almost feels like it is done to break you, so then you are forced into a psych hospital, and have to pull it together to just leave. Freak you out on purpose.
Since I was never in an ambulance before becoming a psych victim (victim of psych industry), I actually don’t know personally if the restraints on the ambulances were not supposed to happen. Also, Los Angeles goes even further with 5 points, like over the chest too. Seemed like it was all just an instant psych hold. I don’t exactly travel anymore, so no more impounded cars, or any ‘almost pass out from sun’ things, called FALSELY catatonic, etc, when just leaning on a trash can in the SHADE, not saying much.
Even at my first ‘official’ involuntary psych hold at Contra Costa, Martinez (where I think I heard the woman in the other room screaming no, stop?! it gets blurry), even though a “real MD” noticed maybe some chest/heart area pains from me (like I made motions with my hands bc as I said, my blood/cardiovascular whatever had REAL ISSUES), did he stop the psych hold? No. Those days I could still laugh at it though.
First time that I’ve heard it happening to anyone else (other than since writing this story)! Was it when restrained also?
It seems more like punishment. It certainly seemed like that the first time.
Thanks for the comments that this is wrong. Indeed, each time psych victimized, and we are violated like this, it sticks a long time. IMO it could be worse than when illegally done, because it is ‘legalized’ as if it is your problem. It makes one fear urine tests. The point is that it is always forceful when involuntary too because they want insurance money and judge permissions. Judges seem to go to psych facilities just to process people.
Thanks for everyone’s posts on here. When saying it, it’s either ignored or causes an attack. It’s as if the person always deserves the restraints, lock up, and forced “mental health” because just being forced into it must mean that “you have a problem.” They cannot think that “professionals” could ever not be trusted or make violations, despite like 450,000 deaths per year or something from medical mistakes.
#JustSayNo is a good one! Though as seen, saying “no” still causes it to be forced. Daryl Brown does a lot about PSSD (sexual dysfunction from psych drugs), and he works with us on Everyday Psych Victims Project! Feel free to ask him for an interview 🙂 He uploads podcasts onto our YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/c/everydaypsychvictimsproject. Message and follow us at http://www.facebook.com/PsychVictims.
There’s some kind of “mental health” enabling/victim-blaming reaction in society to sexual violence or violations.
It is really more common than people think. Though no one wants to believe victims. Then you read and hear about sex in wards.
Hard to fight back when restrained, with false paperwork that claims a ‘danger to self or others’ and unable to leave the facility. The shame comes from the label. Also, no health departments ever substantiate claims. Upon that, for medical board reports, they want the doctor’s name. I tried reporting Cedars Sinai from the 2016 one, but I think I got no reply. Also, I never have a clue who any of these people are. Just random strangers that seem to be ‘attacking.’ There’s absolutely no one who will hold them accountable.
Thanks for saying that it is wrong, but it definitely happens! I’m really glad that Rudy’s story is there too, so then people see that it doesn’t happen to a single person only. It also happened twice. Once in EvergreenHealth in Kirkland (I guess delete the name if I’m now allowed to say where), WA in Jan 2014 after those about 2 weeks of IMO 24/7 like torture and traveling around. Then in Cedars Sinai, Los Angeles, CA Oct 2016. There’s so much shame in speaking out. It’s either called a ‘relapse’ for just admitting the truth, or ‘crazy.’
Maybe your contact group is different… I literally hear people say ‘crazy’ daily.
You sent it to your university? In fall 2015, when I posted this suit (that was denied btw in NY), the instant reply was about “dangerousness” of people called “disordered” and how to deal with that. It was bad news from then on.
The TCU place forced a 7 day minimum “mental health” evaluation at Mesa Springs Behavioral Hospital. All I did was complain about some people in a fast talking/cali way, and it was hot, so I looked sweaty. They over-reacted too because they sent their cops to the public police station in Fort Worth, bc the station told them that I was a student. All it was was me reporting a break in/complaints against some people. Nothing even on record except a female or whatever. They actually checked, but I seemed stressed I guess.
So then say to get counseling, and oh it can go on record. Well no… you go there, write intake on “unwanted contact from blah blah and an electrical outage.” Amanda Swartz (who STILL WORKS THERE) goes and claims that I said “electrical signals to my brain” from someone, when I was saying that people online etc, were giving warnings about stuff, so basically domestic stuff… and ignore me saying not true. So then, January 2015, IMO get MKUltra drug-like effects for 2 weeks such as burning/pulsating blood which I cannot find a damn thing about either. It felt like a project, so I nicknamed it BS… now I know the right name and they ARE connected to MKultra project 119/Saul Sells. I literally cannot find a damn thing about that burning stuff except on one MKUltra drug page. It was bad all around.. air pressure and other senstivities, breathing issues.
So yeah, no matter what state, private or public, or country, “mental health” will destroy you.
I’ve written about this since fall 2014, when I first became a psych victim by TCU/Texas Christian University. In fact, writing about it fall 2015 (including ‘paranoia’ about authority/government/’insiders’ or whatever theories) made me have to sign a behavior contract (that included to not laugh to myself) at a California University, and have those emails forwarded to judicial affairs. They wanted to psych evaluate me, and instead I eventually took a suspension.
As for the nursing thing.. I got hit with a double-edged sword by TCU – Texas Christian University fall 2014… I was a pre-nursing student trying to finish up 4 pre-reqs and accepted to Baylor University for Spring for their RN program. I KNEW that I could never do nursing again… either way, seeing how psych is IN EVERYTHING also made me so afraid of all things medical. I saw them as control freaks, un-creative, and their true colors.
She cannot talk to herself (at least not too severely) or they can force behavior contracts, psych evaluations, and even if you talk to yourself A LOT, they can call police to the classroom. Private vs public colleges also act differently, and per state.
Stay away from “mental health.” People email big wigs like this author bc they have large names.
Yep, places like Texas Christian University (fall 2014) and your school all the way back in 1984 don’t give a damn about high grades, ECs, or the character of the person.
ADA lawyers at least in Texas, USA don’t care about “mental health.” No lawyers will touch it probably, unless you are gobbles rich and want to spend it.
Do you have a link to an article of her being forced onto “mental health”?
That is a good example. I can look into that one… and yes, it is all victim blaming bc “mental health” sells that it is “for the betterment” of them.
Yes there are all kinds of violations by these crisis/sexual harassment/rape centers. Schools are awful… Finally made an account here. The military school article of students reporting sexual harassment, then getting psyched, and losing their careers is a good one.
For them, it is also ‘liability.’