Good piece. Writer should look at the benzoreform.org website which has a lot of information on benzo issues. This nonprofit (the Alliance for Benzodiazepine Best Practices) is trying to educate the public and doctors about issues with benzodiazepines long term. (They should only be taken for 2 to 4 weeks.). The pharmaceutical reps donāt tell the doctors that and most doctors donāt know about tapering. We all need to educate them!!
Thank you Elizabeth Rich! Can you please pass on my note to thank her? Iāve learned a lot about the inner workings of mental health institutions, especially Chicago Read in Chicago, Ill. Almost all The staff seem apathetic and jaded and there is no therapy taking place. Itās worse than One Flew over the Cuckooās Nest.
A year and eight months have passed since they forced Marci back into the system. I don’t know how much longer she can hold on. The other patients are harrassing her and her court date keeps on getting pushed back. She now has a Twitter #Webberfree. I’m making a general appeal to help her. She needs funds to pay a lawyer. She has so much information on how messed up the forensic mental health system is – and needs to get out and write a book. She suspects that she is being held as they know she will expose how horrible the “so-called treatment” is. Please call her if you can help. 773-794-4036, afternoons preferred.
So glad to read your story and it gives me hope for others who are suffering from psychiatric abuse.
Thank you for writing this. Most people are not aware of what is happening. I am as Im a friend of Marci Webber who is stuck in a mental facility and being threatened to be forcibly medicated when she raises her voice. They will not accept that she will not take medications. Its like One Flew over the Cookooās Nest
The trailer for Unbroken Mind id really good. Is it suspended for lack of funding? Iād like to see it when it is finished. Best wishes
I had not seen that article. Thank you. The piece I remember was a front page NYTimes piece about a young man in medical school who took large dose of Adderall (despite his parents pleading to zDr to stop prescribing) and who killed himself. When will Drs learn?
Thank you Maria. Let us know how Pat does. I like your swimming pool metaphor. I support the benzodiazepine information coalition and benzoreform.org as I believe organizations have more capacity to effect change.
Thank you for writing this. There are people for whom meds work and they wont believe this story. I wholeheartedly agree with checking for underlying conditions before prescribing psychotropics. AND doing genetic tests to see which meds could be effective. When will this change? I lost my daughter to meds – they made her suicidal. I hope Pat gets better.
For those of you who know Marci, please know she still needs support. She is now hoping to get out December 11th but that date is not sure. Please call her at 773-794-4036 or send her a card of encouragement to Chicago Read Mental Health Ctr., 4200 N. Oak Park avenue, Chicago, IL 60634. The judge wants proof of a bank account, so she could use financial help also. You can send a check to Terry Johnson, a lawyer who has helped her. His email is [email protected]. She appreciates anything that you can do. (How is she supposed to have a bank account?) Thank you.
Hello, I spoke with Marci and she said she has been trying to get in touch with you and is worried. Can you call her at 773-794-4036? She’d appreciate it.
Call her at 773-7944036 and she’d be glad to talk to you. She did not withdraw properly. Look up the Ashton Manual and that is how you should properly withdraw. 10 % at a time. Best of luck.
Amazing story. I know that a class of antibiotics called quinolones (ex. Cipro) can cause tendon problems like you describe with your Achilles heel. Did you ever take this class of antibiotics? Drs forget to tell patients of this risk. I wasnt aware that tendon weakening was caused by antidepressants.
She has a hard time calling long distance and has to ask a lawyer if she can use their phone. She gave me two other #s – both start same but one ends in 4049 and other 3950. She loves getting cards also. Unit South B at Chicago Reade. Thanks.
Marci still needs your words of encouragement and support. She is not out of the woods yet. She asks that you call her so that she does not feel isolated. She can be reached from 12 to 9 pm at 773-794-4036. Please show your support by calling her. Thank you.
Marci was subjected to psychologiccal torture in Elgin: no fresh air, sleep deprivation, regular body searches, room searches, harrassment from the staff. Clearly she was targetted as the staff did not think she was compliant. I wonder how many other “mental health centers” are like this. It is not a place where therapy takes place. Marci needs financial help and has a fundly page that was started when she needed funds for legal advice. This same fund can be used to help her get on her feet once she gets out. Please consider contributing. She really appreciates it. https://fundly.com/marci-webber-legal-fund
Iād like to know what the doctor said when you told him what happened to you. Did he believe you? How can he learn from this experience?
Thank you Zenobia for this article. I post some articles on my Facebook but find that my friends don’t really respond. It’s only when you’ve been personally involved that you realize how horrible Benzos are. I believe klonopin made my daughter suicidal and she killed herself after taking herself off of it. No doctors helped her taper. In one hospital they took her from 3 mg to .5 in 6 days. So much progress needs to be made in the medical world to get the word out about short term use for benzos and for tapering protocols.
Does anyone know of a lawyer or psychiatrist who will donate their time to help Marci? She needs help to get out and has a Fundly legal fund set up. I encourage any of you to donate to it so that she can afford a lawyer as her public defender is not helping her. And she needs money to pay a psychiatrist in case no one volunteers their time. So please go to fundly.com and look up Marci Webber Legal Fund. Thank you. She is suffering at Elgin and deserves a break. You can help her.
Yes I read hidden inside NYTimes article that he was on medications for ADHD, so that means amphetamines which I suspect fueled his rage. Combination of uppers and downers is not good.
Thank you Eve. I will share your piece as I have reached the same conclusion as you. My daughter saw a half dozen psychiatrists who continued to prescribe her uppers (Adderall) and downers (klonopin). She tried getting off the klonopin but no one told her how slowly you should taper. She finally got off them and I believe her anxiety (made worse by the adderall – so much so that she couldnāt sleep the last week of her life). She took her own life a month after switching to diazepam from the klonopin. My daughter was not helped by the psychiatrists. I ended up thinking they were playing with fire, using people as guinea pigs, as they really donāt know how different people react to āmeds.ā
Good piece. Writer should look at the benzoreform.org website which has a lot of information on benzo issues. This nonprofit (the Alliance for Benzodiazepine Best Practices) is trying to educate the public and doctors about issues with benzodiazepines long term. (They should only be taken for 2 to 4 weeks.). The pharmaceutical reps donāt tell the doctors that and most doctors donāt know about tapering. We all need to educate them!!
Thank you Elizabeth Rich! Can you please pass on my note to thank her? Iāve learned a lot about the inner workings of mental health institutions, especially Chicago Read in Chicago, Ill. Almost all The staff seem apathetic and jaded and there is no therapy taking place. Itās worse than One Flew over the Cuckooās Nest.
A year and eight months have passed since they forced Marci back into the system. I don’t know how much longer she can hold on. The other patients are harrassing her and her court date keeps on getting pushed back. She now has a Twitter #Webberfree. I’m making a general appeal to help her. She needs funds to pay a lawyer. She has so much information on how messed up the forensic mental health system is – and needs to get out and write a book. She suspects that she is being held as they know she will expose how horrible the “so-called treatment” is. Please call her if you can help. 773-794-4036, afternoons preferred.
So glad to read your story and it gives me hope for others who are suffering from psychiatric abuse.
Thank you for writing this. Most people are not aware of what is happening. I am as Im a friend of Marci Webber who is stuck in a mental facility and being threatened to be forcibly medicated when she raises her voice. They will not accept that she will not take medications. Its like One Flew over the Cookooās Nest
The trailer for Unbroken Mind id really good. Is it suspended for lack of funding? Iād like to see it when it is finished. Best wishes
I had not seen that article. Thank you. The piece I remember was a front page NYTimes piece about a young man in medical school who took large dose of Adderall (despite his parents pleading to zDr to stop prescribing) and who killed himself. When will Drs learn?
Thank you Maria. Let us know how Pat does. I like your swimming pool metaphor. I support the benzodiazepine information coalition and benzoreform.org as I believe organizations have more capacity to effect change.
Thank you for writing this. There are people for whom meds work and they wont believe this story. I wholeheartedly agree with checking for underlying conditions before prescribing psychotropics. AND doing genetic tests to see which meds could be effective. When will this change? I lost my daughter to meds – they made her suicidal. I hope Pat gets better.
For those of you who know Marci, please know she still needs support. She is now hoping to get out December 11th but that date is not sure. Please call her at 773-794-4036 or send her a card of encouragement to Chicago Read Mental Health Ctr., 4200 N. Oak Park avenue, Chicago, IL 60634. The judge wants proof of a bank account, so she could use financial help also. You can send a check to Terry Johnson, a lawyer who has helped her. His email is [email protected]. She appreciates anything that you can do. (How is she supposed to have a bank account?) Thank you.
Hello, I spoke with Marci and she said she has been trying to get in touch with you and is worried. Can you call her at 773-794-4036? She’d appreciate it.
Call her at 773-7944036 and she’d be glad to talk to you. She did not withdraw properly. Look up the Ashton Manual and that is how you should properly withdraw. 10 % at a time. Best of luck.
Amazing story. I know that a class of antibiotics called quinolones (ex. Cipro) can cause tendon problems like you describe with your Achilles heel. Did you ever take this class of antibiotics? Drs forget to tell patients of this risk. I wasnt aware that tendon weakening was caused by antidepressants.
She has a hard time calling long distance and has to ask a lawyer if she can use their phone. She gave me two other #s – both start same but one ends in 4049 and other 3950. She loves getting cards also. Unit South B at Chicago Reade. Thanks.
Marci still needs your words of encouragement and support. She is not out of the woods yet. She asks that you call her so that she does not feel isolated. She can be reached from 12 to 9 pm at 773-794-4036. Please show your support by calling her. Thank you.
Marci was subjected to psychologiccal torture in Elgin: no fresh air, sleep deprivation, regular body searches, room searches, harrassment from the staff. Clearly she was targetted as the staff did not think she was compliant. I wonder how many other “mental health centers” are like this. It is not a place where therapy takes place. Marci needs financial help and has a fundly page that was started when she needed funds for legal advice. This same fund can be used to help her get on her feet once she gets out. Please consider contributing. She really appreciates it.
https://fundly.com/marci-webber-legal-fund
Iād like to know what the doctor said when you told him what happened to you. Did he believe you? How can he learn from this experience?
Thank you Zenobia for this article. I post some articles on my Facebook but find that my friends don’t really respond. It’s only when you’ve been personally involved that you realize how horrible Benzos are. I believe klonopin made my daughter suicidal and she killed herself after taking herself off of it. No doctors helped her taper. In one hospital they took her from 3 mg to .5 in 6 days. So much progress needs to be made in the medical world to get the word out about short term use for benzos and for tapering protocols.
Does anyone know of a lawyer or psychiatrist who will donate their time to help Marci? She needs help to get out and has a Fundly legal fund set up. I encourage any of you to donate to it so that she can afford a lawyer as her public defender is not helping her. And she needs money to pay a psychiatrist in case no one volunteers their time. So please go to fundly.com and look up Marci Webber Legal Fund. Thank you. She is suffering at Elgin and deserves a break. You can help her.
Yes I read hidden inside NYTimes article that he was on medications for ADHD, so that means amphetamines which I suspect fueled his rage. Combination of uppers and downers is not good.
Thank you Eve. I will share your piece as I have reached the same conclusion as you. My daughter saw a half dozen psychiatrists who continued to prescribe her uppers (Adderall) and downers (klonopin). She tried getting off the klonopin but no one told her how slowly you should taper. She finally got off them and I believe her anxiety (made worse by the adderall – so much so that she couldnāt sleep the last week of her life). She took her own life a month after switching to diazepam from the klonopin. My daughter was not helped by the psychiatrists. I ended up thinking they were playing with fire, using people as guinea pigs, as they really donāt know how different people react to āmeds.ā