Sunday, February 23, 2020

Comments by ThereAreFourLights

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  • I was on a ward once and there was a guy there who kept coming on to me, telling me he would come into my room at night, and no matter what I said in protest this guy wouldn’t desist with his idea. Finally I had no choice but to report him to a staff member. Of course they didn’t take it seriously at all, and even refused to lock me into my own room for my own protection. And of course actually just being allowed to go home to avoid him was not on the table even though I’d done nothing wrong.

  • Hey everyone, it would appear that the University of Toronto is still accepting donations to the Dr. Bonnie Burstow Scholarship in Antipsychiatry fund as well as the two other scholarships she established, Burstow’s Scholarship for Research into Violence Against Indigenous Women: In Memory of Helen Betty Osborne and Burstow Scholarship for Research into Antisemitism. If you can spare a bit (or a lot) of cash, why not consider making a donation in memory of her?

    https://donate.utoronto.ca/give/show/271

  • lol, the black balloon booth…Better watch out Rachel or Dr. Oz will steal your idea…

    Yeah I guess making a job out of asking “how’s that workin’ fer ya? ” didn’t really work out too well for Dr. Phil, at least in terms of aligning himself with pharma…Oh well he’ll be policy advisor when Oprah becomes president, and hopefully the worst that will happen then is she makes us all join her book club…

  • Thank you for this piece and for speaking out. I wish the Special Rapporteur had not said “overmedicalization” which of course implies there is a need for psychiatric drugs to treat some “medical issues”. Aside from their use to prevent people from going into withdrawal, for tapering purposes, or to reinstate to stop an ongoing withdrawal syndrome (which only works some of the time) I’m really not seeing of what value they are otherwise. I would like to hope that is what he meant but I suspect it was not. The vast majority of psychiatric drugs never should have made it to market to start with and they only got there because of corruption or pseudo-scientific thinking. If they can’t even prove to start with that most of the “mental illnesses” are due to disease processes, that right off the top means the research is suspect. But arguing for a right to have these drugs around for reasons outside of what I just wrote above seems to me like arguing in favor of lax research and regulatory standards.

  • So, in essence, what this piece amounts to is an open admission that psychiatry intends to monitor survivor spaces so that they can gather info to be used to find new ways to put people in the system. I find this sentence really worrying : “But to rethink the clinical encounter is not to rethink the entirety of mental health practice.”

  • Hi, I noticed that the book launch that was announced prior to Bonnie’s passing is still posted on this site. Is there a memorial book launch still going to be held in her honor then (or have they just not taken that post down in the events section here?)

  • Melissa this brought a smile to my face. I think you are doing valuable work especially in that you hopefully made the person who would not let you in think a bit more about how ridiculous their policies are. If we had more people like you doing the same thing then it would maybe send a message that people outside the ward are paying attention. I don’t think that can hurt.

  • Nice choice of someone to obsess over. I wish I had read more McLuhan before psych drugs messed me over, used to be a prolific reader back in the day. I read everything from Thoreau, to Dostoyevsky, to Dante, to sic fi, to the backs of shampoo bottles.. But somehow never got to McLuhan really, it is a terrible oversight on my part. I had my tech critiques coming more from other writers. (Sadly Pert Plus bottles did about nothing to teach me critiques about tech culture). Agree very much about walking up asking for the handcuffs too. It is continually shocking to me how many volunteer so much personal info whom are apparently not on drugs or drunk at the time they do it. I mourn the world that knew what boundaries were! Now the very idea of boundaries seems a quaint notion.

    P.S. Appreciated the link a lot, there are some aspects of Facebook I was not aware of..just solidifies my urge to avoid it.

  • I don’t have a Facebook account. This piece leaves out that people like me who deliberately refused Facebook and other social media sites, and also forms of tech, can become basically ostracized for having critical thinking skills and anticipating how the sites or tech will be used badly against people. Since being harmed by psychiatry, I lost most of my friends. I have tried and tried to make new friends, and I am good at meeting people, people I meet will want to keep in touch with me…but the second you say I don’t use Facebook, I don’t text, etc, well then they just disappear like you told them you have a contagious illness. When cell phones started becoming popular I immediately anticipated how they’d be used by workplaces to track employees all the time, and I thought better of getting one. I told several friends they were a bad idea, when they told me to get one, and later those same people came back to me complaining that now their bosses followed them wherever they were and they regretted having bought them.

  • I have been reading here since the site started and though I don’t often comment (partly because oldhead tends to cover most of what I have to express) I wished to say that I appreciated Stephen Gilbert’s participation here and his voice. Without knowing him personally my sense from his comments was that he was an honest, down to earth, ethical person who truly cared what became of people in the system. A rare individual the world badly needed. That he could work at the hospital that had mistreated him to try to help out other people in the system shows a great deal of strength and courage. As a psych survivor myself I know if it were me I’d probably have a heart attack just walking in the front door of the hospital where I stayed, so well and truly I have no idea how he did it. RIP Mr. Gilbert, you sure had guts and you will be tremendously missed.

  • Stumbling into this discussion groggy so hoping I’m following this accurately….I am a survivor and have been around this site since its inception, and wanted to pick out something here as it spoke to an idea I had a while ago:

    “We badly need to develop a cohort of legal and political theorists who develop critical positions towards the systems that oppress us and towards the society as a whole, from an outsider standpoint as people with psychosocial disabilities. ”

    I realize quite a few survivors haven’t a dime to spare, but, I had thought about organizing some sort of informal scholarship type fund people could pool money into to help put select survivors through law school or other relevant disciplines such as med school, so that when they get out they can help us. Even a partial scholarship of sorts given to chosen survivors might be of benefit as an incentive for people to go through school for relevant disciplines…And aside from legal and political help we also badly need doctors who are critical of the system to among other things address the many health issues people are coming out of the system with that are iatrogenic in nature. Instead of acting to cover over the damages claiming what they are seeing is Mental Illness™. Even a few doctors who are also survivors who could help out other survivors would make a fair difference.

    Aside from this I believe until we have sweeping legal changes that forbid forced psychiatry we will have to get pretty creative in terms of how to help currently detained people and how to prevent others from getting entangled in the system. More in a bit, I am too sleepy to continue writing right now…