Saturday, January 19, 2019

Comments by Rosalee

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  • Jessica, thank you for your integrity and compassion for others in providing this information. These are horrible human rights violations. I hope all the stories like this get spread far and wide.

    …..”Make sure you get something to document, especially if it means asking leading questions that irritate them into sounding crazier. Dismiss their concerns as symptoms which are meant to be eliminated”.
    This statement is chilling and shows that psychiatric labels are pre-arranged and planned.

  • Sam, this is a most beautiful and heart-warming comment/story. How inspiring to understand and appreciate the impact of past wounds your wife endured and be so determined to have your wife fully realize that she is a wonderful and deserving person. Hats off to you! Probably every woman in the world would want to clone you!

  • I usually go with “If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything” but I have to agree with Oldhead and KindredSpirit’s comments. It seems a big reason someone might end up having problems with “giving and receiving love” is the result and collateral damage of having endured harmful psychiatric labelling and treatments. Aren’t anti-depressants known for dampening down all a person’s emotions, both the good ones (love) and bad. It is gut wrenching to read the stories of those who have been so harmed by psychiatry and it is clear many are indeed “victims” of psychiatry. It is great if they can find strength, courage and loving support to find their way back to a place of peace and love but am not comfortable with putting the onus on the victim to be the fixer.

  • Thank you Zenobia for this compelling report, MIA is off to a great start in 2019 with this information!

    Psychiatry has certainly been exposed as a crude and simplistic way of making moral/social judgments and labelling people – with no regard given to environment, trauma or even physical/medical conditions. Psychiatry is using their damaging labels as ‘weapons of mass destruction’ against people who are already suffering or in distress.

    I agree with Richard D. Lewis that “The work of these researchers (and this blog) should be spread far and wide as an important weapon against all forms of psychiatric oppression”. MIA, their associated professionals and researchers, and those with lived experience are crucial weapons in the fight against the injustices and absurdity of psychiatric labels and harmful treatments.

  • Thank you MIA for this profoundly needed mission to re-think psychiatry. The work and incredible information presented every day to investigate, educate and support is invaluable to very human being who must navigate this world. I wish MIA continued success and ever expanding readership and support in 2019.

  • Dr. Gotzsche, everything that has taken place is sickening beyond words, so atrocious it’s difficult to read the details of all the corruption (in various links) especially given these matters involve the safety and integrity of healthcare.

    As you said, “Administrators prefer to save face rather than admit they were wrong”. So true, they never want to admit they made a mistake as ego and saving face is always more important to them.

    Thank God there are still honest people who are prepared to stand up to corruption in order to help others. The world is very lucky there are still people like you, Dr. Breggin, Robert Whitaker and other professionals who stand up and do the right thing.

    I am happy to read you are planning to establish the “Institute for Scientific Freedom” along with Dr. Breggin and Robert Whitaker. I will donate to the crowdfunding and I wish you much success with this new endeavor and with the ongoing corrupt battle.

  • Dear Anja, Your story of the difficulties you have faced in obtaining appropriate “help” is compelling and meaningful. I don’t have faith in psychiatry as their only treatment is to label and drug, but I think there are still some good psychologists around. From my experience psychologists are more willing to look at what happened to you then what is wrong with you. But you have to find the right psychologist, it really has to be a good fit. You have probably seen this booklet recently made available on MIA and hopefully may find something in it that helps bring some sense of calm.
    https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/BOOKLET-FINAL-PATHWAYS-TO-WELL-BEING-12-8-18.pdf
    Take care, I really wish you well.

  • Hello Lauren,
    This is very helpful information. Thank you and bless you for the incredible work you do to help others who have been labelled and oppressed. After reading this recent blog I looked back at your previous posts and see I have much more good reading ahead! I just read this blog from July 2016, it was especially touching:
    https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/07/principled-and-loving-support-the-greatest-gift-we-can-give/

    After I began reading the blogs/articles on MIA what stood out to me is how psychiatry is really about ‘passing judgement’ on other human beings who happen to be suffering or in distress, by giving them a spurious DSM “label” (vs a scientific, legitimate diagnosis). This “label” is the catalyst that brings so much harm to people who really needed someone to hear their plight, to care and offer kindness and support, rather than be given a damaging “label”.

  • Thanks for a good article on anxiety. It is therapeutic to read posts from professionals that validate how psychiatry is not aligned with the realities of being human and experiencing normal emotions and responses to abnormal and distressing experiences.

  • Contracting Lyme is becoming more common. I am so sorry yours was not caught sooner. I hope the antibiotics you started recently can have some positive effects. Doctors need to be more aware and always have it on their radar as even Avril Lavigne was told she was “crazy” for while before she was finally diagnosed with Lyme.

  • Thank you for this excellent article. It’s exactly what I experienced when steroids (taken with chemo) caused me to have insomnia. My only “symptoms” were insomnia and some anxiety (due to the horrible side effects of chemo) that nearly every person in cancer treatment experiences. Yet a psychiatrist ruled that being a cancer patient in the midst of grueling treatments was irrelevant and not a ‘situation’ or reason for insomnia or anxiety. Instead the insomnia was ruled a brain disorder and flawed character. It was stunning to realize psychiatry is exactly as you say, history, context and complexity of a person’s situation or environment are completely ignored.
    From what I read/ learned the last few months it is appalling that psychiatric patients are treated far worse than hardened criminals. As more professionals speak out, and psychiatric survivors report the harm they suffered and word keeps spreading to more people who were previously unaware of what goes on, hopefully governments and others in power will no longer ignore the injustices of the authoritarian regime psychiatry has become.
    I look forward to your future blogs in which you explore what you have termed “The Situational Approach”.

  • Thank you George for sharing this heart breaking story of your beloved daughter Martha. The death of a child is the worst nightmare a parent can face and the tragic story of her untimely passing will be of help to parents and other people in similar circumstances. I visited the website you dedicated to Martha and all she has written. It is a wonderful legacy and tribute to her writings and her memory. Martha certainly was a cute, adorable baby and a lovely young lady. I am so sorry you lost her at such a young age.

  • Very well stated. As with psychiatric labels there is also lots of stigma around chronic pain. Unless a doctor, or anyone, has lived with debilitating chronic pain they should not judge someone else’s pain.
    As I try wrap my brain around the insanity that is ‘psychiatry’ the most appalling revelation is that nothing a person is going through matters. Whatever life crisis you are dealing with – it simply does not matter to a psychiatrist. That has been the most shocking thing to learn.

  • Well stated that “The problem is with many “professionals” who like control and power and do not have the ability or just too lazy to truly empathize and connect.”

    “Professionals” with no ability to feel empathy or compassion, their ego and pride are of most importance and they hang onto power and control as if their life depended on it, do they have “narcissistic personality disorder?”

    Very grateful for the professionals and bloggers on MIA that do want to heal people.

  • Yes out, “Real medicine, for all its faults relies on objective data”.
    Psychiatrists make life altering diagnoses and order dangerous drugs/treatments for alleged diagnoses that have no objective data and are not factual, real or verifiable. Anyone can be a psychiatrist – the only requirement is that you can read so as to read the “DSM” and go “eeny meeny miny moe” and simply pick one (or more) of many made-up diagnoses of which most have overlapping alleged symptoms. It’s like a game, a total crapshoot – but one that is playing with people’s lives.

  • Thank you Noel for another informative and validating blog. I have your recent book and it’s excellent.
    I hope every book, blog, and story keeps moving the needle forward to expose the harm, cruelty and injustices going on in mental health care and bring justice and change. We can have somewhat differing interpretations or meanings for various terms but what is most important is the mission and the message. When I first came across MIA I was not sure if “mad” meant ‘angry’ or ‘mental/emotional suffering’, or a combination, but I quickly realized what the message and the mission was.

  • This is so corrupt and terrifying because so many of us believed we could implicitly trust doctors. We thought they actually cared and would honor their oath to “Do no harm”. There are still some around but they can’t save us from the rest.
    I recently purchased “Chris Beat Cancer” written by Chris Wark. He writes of many egregious deceptions in conventional cancer treatments, including very misleading statistics on toxic chemo drugs and how doctors fear monger and coerce patients to comply and take toxic drugs that are ineffective and instead hasten or cause a person’s death. I experienced everything he writes of. As Chris states, “earning a medical degree does not make you a moral or ethical person”. It is devastating to discover that reality after we are harmed. Agree with Rachel777, these doctors have severe issues with lack of empathy/compassion, dishonesty, manipulation and delusions that they then project onto the patient.
    Sending healing vibes and prayers there may be a path somewhere to healing that doesn’t include medical doctors.

  • Very informative talk on whistleblowers and a most fitting quote from Desmond Tutu.
    It is pernicious when people in positions of trust stay neutral to protect their own interests, turning a blind eye to lies, corruption, censorship and harm inflicted on others It takes great strength of character, morals and courage to stand up for your convictions and do what is right and honest. Thank you for being a crusader for justice and truth. The world desperately needs more like you Peter! Wishing you much success in your battle.

  • Eric, It is disgusting psychiatrists resort to lies and fabrication to prop up their so-called opinions and their hold on someone’s life. It is difficult to find any lawyer to take a case dealing with psychiatry because the odds are so stacked against justice in these matters, but as I read your blog I thought the same as Oldhead, as in, your lawyer intervened in the validity of your statement about working in publishing in NY so I wondered why your lawyer didn’t ask for an explanation and proof of the alleged “candle incident”? They need to be held accountable for making such an assertion, could you have your lawyer demand the details/proof of the incident they alleged?

  • Bonnie, is there a link to the legal court statement on what the judge recently said in the US lawsuit that I could give future legislative candidates to read and ask their position on?
    I commented on your article on Rabble. I hope everyone on MIA who has ever been harmed by psychiatric labels, drugs or ECT posts a comment to help make noise to get this barbaric cruelty banned.

  • Thank you Bonnie for your advocacy for people harmed by ECT. It is hard to believe ECT is still happening. The average person is not aware of the harm done by psychiatry until they or someone close to them ends up harmed. Thanks to the MIA site I became more informed and now give the link to others, including a psychologist I saw (after a bizarre and traumatic encounter with a psychiatrist during cancer treatment), my family doctor and also the CMHA. I will write my MP in Ottawa to ask for his support to end this social injustice and email CAPA to see what else I could do. I plan to purchase ‘The Other Mrs. Smith’ (as well as ‘Psychiatry Disrupted’) to gain further insight.

  • Auntie Psychiatry,
    Excellent points, well taken! Trying to be hopeful that with powerful blogs like this the turning point will come but agree he is still about ‘saving face’ and blaming others. Oldhead put it very well… “a phony “whistleblower” with one foot still in the corruption”. If he actually wants to save lives he must use his powerful platform and speak real truth to power.

  • Dr. Philip Hickey, Thank you! This is an exceptional and crucial blog!!
    When I was unwittingly snared by a psychiatrist simply because I had insomnia from chemotherapy (and steroids you must take to try lessen internal damage from the chemo) I didn’t know (at that time) that psychiatrists disregard any and all (often blatant) ‘causes’ of a person’s distress or suffering, even toxic side effects of chemo. I didn’t present or report even 1 of the criteria allegedly needed for any diagnosis but unbeknownst to me was immediately given 4 major psychiatric diagnoses anyway. Then prescribed an anti- psychotic for sleep. When I had horrible side effects the first night from the anti-psychotic, including hallucinations I refused to take another pill. Then I was further denigrated as “non-compliant”. When I began to fight the damaging labels I bought Dr. Allen Frances book Saving Normal; An Insider’s Revolt plus read his “12 Best Tips on Psychiatric Diagnosis”. I felt it was a commendable step in right direction but since finding MIA and becoming aware of the horrendous harm so many have suffered I hope he reads this detailed and powerful blog and soon takes a stronger stance.

  • As always such incredible work Robert. It is horrible enough so many adults have been harmed by psychiatry and absolutely incomprehensible the harm is now being done to young children as well. It is great to see such remarkable initiatives by MIA to support parents and help save young children from the disasters and madness of psychiatry.

  • Surviving and Thriving, I agree 100% with you on this matter and you stated it well “I do not understand why someone who has no experience with chronic pain either as a treatment provider or individual who has dealt with disabling chronic pain (no, his minor back pain incident doesn’t qualify) is being given this kind of platform.”

    When I found the MIA site a few months ago I found it to be very informative and validating until I read psychiatrist Dr. Kelmenson’s recent blogs. He compares someone who needs pain medication to control debilitating pain to someone being gluttonous about fine food and posh restaurants – are you kidding?! The pain and suffering of many legitimate physical ailments or illnesses can be invisible or not verifiable, such as post-surgical neuralgia (or any kind of neuralgia) RSD, IBS, musculoskeletal pain from trauma or wear and tear, fibromyalgia, chronic dizziness or migraine headaches to name just a few. A recent investigative report on W5 was about people who developed such intense pain after undergoing laser eye surgery it drove them to thoughts of suicide. Yet when their eyes were examined in the usual manner by slit lamp nothing showed up so the person’s pain was deemed to be “in their head”. Only recently when a high powered in-vivo confocal microscope was used to examine their eyes did the truncated and damaged nerves show up.
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/w5-investigates-a-rare-but-painful-side-effect-of-laser-eye-surgery-1.4141117
    I find the two posts by Dr. K to be very disconcerting and a real disservice to people who are living with chronic pain. It is disappointing that MIA posts this type of blog.

  • Good suggestion Richard, I also would donate and sign to fight this injustice. Agree, a BIG thanks is also needed to Peter Gotzsche, and all the amazing writers and bloggers on this site. There is so much incredible information provided here, including blogs, podcasts, research news, and many insightful commenters. I found this link interesting and validating when you consider that the “labelling” in someone’s records after seeing a psychiatrist is much more stigmatizing.
    https://www.madinamerica.com/2018/05/stigmatizing-language-affects-care/

  • Thank you Robert for this gripping report about Peter Gotzsche and the injustices this man endured for being forthright and honest. I so appreciate your website, books and all your incredible work in helping so many. It is very empowering to those who have been downtrodden and harmed by psychiatry. I was naïve about psychiatry until becoming very physically ill from chemotherapy and developing severe tolerance/rebound insomnia after taking Imovane many months. I was told by the surgeon she was sending me to “someone” for “help with sleep meds”. I was not told this “someone” was a psychiatrist. It had been a very rough cancer ride to that point but the real horror story began after I saw this novice psychiatrist a few times on the pretense it was for “help with sleep meds”. (I was unaware the sleep meds she immediately prescribed were antipsychotics) Further, this psychiatrist was very deceitful and secretly and deliberately twisted the narrative to suit her goals and her ‘black and white’ thinking. What took place is so utterly bizarre and dishonest it clearly shows psychiatry is unregulated and totally out of control. Thanks again.

  • Hello Harper, Thank you for the link to your website! The information is incredibly wise and insightful. It explains so well the trauma (and labels) I endured in cancer treatments as it involved a lot of “blame-shifting” so others need not feel guilty. On your website you write that the DSM “does not take into account the most explanatory elements of human psychology”. That is so true and what is so appalling about psychiatry, nothing that happened or is happening to a person, even major surgeries and chemo with such horrific side-effects you can barely eat, breathe or stand, and fell and suffered serious head trauma (unconscious on the floor with a swollen bleeding laceration that needed stitches) I hope you will post your excellent articles on MIA as well. I pray the day is coming when people will be saved from the utter absurdity of psychiatric dogma.

  • Excellent article, Enrico. I strongly agree with everything, especially “The transgressor’s guilt is the emotional catalyst for them to desire to make amends” and “Prospective, or anticipatory guilt, can be an indication of psychological maturity”.
    Shame or guilt serve as a moral compass. If someone intentionally harms someone through jealousy, greed, intolerance, control, or any inexcusable reason, guilt or shame is warranted. If you are capable of feeling guilt or shame that indicates you have a conscience; People who justify their inexcusable and harmful actions have no conscience. I don’t believe you can be remorseful without feeling guilt or shame.

  • It is bad enough that adults have and continue to be, so greatly harmed by psychiatric drugs and demeaning labels. It is imperative to protect children and their still developing brains from this damage. Thank you for providing this important information. I hope this series of video interviews will reach as many professionals and parents as possible.

  • Hi Michael, thank you for the info on the above mentioned excellent article. I recently read it (as well as a few others you have written). Your articles are extremely knowledgeable and validating. I hope to eventually read them all and look forward to more in the future. I am so grateful I found the MIA site. It certainly is a gold mine of incredible information with writers such as yourself. God bless you for your compassion and wisdom. You are a gem!

  • Thank you Carlene, this is a very inspiring and very helpful article. When someone feels they can no longer go on it is often because of ongoing traumatization, challenges, losses and set-backs. As you state “Wanting to die is, it turns out, not terribly unusual” and “Wanting to die is a pretty reasonable reaction to lots of terrible life circumstances”. This is so true yet some mental health professionals remain very closed-minded and tone-deaf. They are unable to, or refuse to, appreciate or understand the challenges and difficulties some people unfortunately must deal with in life. The professionals that are so quick to judge, criticize and pathologize others likely never had to experience the same or similar losses, challenges and suffering.

  • You certainly have been through a lot Catherine. I am glad to hear you are in such a good place now and enjoying life. I am still reeling from the injustices inflicted by a psychiatrist during a time I was enduring cancer treatments and was very physically ill. I have been fighting the system ever since to try reclaim my identity and my life. I am still trapped by the injustices but I keep hope alive that somehow the truth will eventually set me free. Thank you for sharing your compelling story of what you overcame.

  • Cali made very good points, chronic pain is often disabling and people become desperate for relief so they take a risk with a dangerous drug. Until a person has experienced it him or herself they should refrain from making unfair judgements.
    Steve hit the nail on the head that we shouldn’t paint all doctors with the same brush (including psychiatrists) as there are some good ones. Unfortunately those few can’t change a corrupt system. It is a real injustice to people with chronic pain to have it described as “invented” when pain is often related to objective conditions, i.e. arthritis, scoliosis, spinal stenosis, or other painful conditions including myofascial pain or fibromyalgia that often follow trauma or injury but unfortunately for patients there is less objective evidence to prove it. Chronic pain has no easy answers and certainly the use of opioids have harmed patients and caused many deaths. But as far as the truly “invented” diagnoses, and diagnoses with no objectivity or evidence to prove them, psychiatry sure wrote the ‘book’ on that. And it seems their psychiatric drugs have done just as much harm as the opioids.

  • The issue of chronic pain is an extremely complex one with a lot of unknown factors. I dealt with chronic pain for 18 years following a car accident and later a slip and fall on a wet floor at work. I was diagnosed at different Pain Clinics with Myofascial Pain Syndrome with multiple trigger points in my back and neck. When trigger points are activated by a minor task involving a twist or turn it sets off back spasms similar to having a Charlie horse in my back. When palpated the muscles are tight, knotted bands and there is often swelling. The pain from the spasms is excruciating and each episode can last anywhere from 2 days to 2 or 3 weeks. I tried many treatment modalities and many different pain medications, including a trial of the opioid Dilaudid. There was not any drug that helped much and the side effects were hard to tolerate. If the drug provided a little relief the side effects rendered me unable to think straight or to function and that was not acceptable to me. Instead I resorted to using infrared heat and as many holistic methods as possible. I appreciate Dr. Kelmenson acknowledges every situation is different. I agree opioids were likely prescribed too often and maybe too carelessly but I also appreciate my family doctor didn’t dismiss my chronic pain. I know her only goal was to try get me some relief. What does concern me however is to have chronic pain described in the blog as an “invented” diagnosis.

  • Bravo, what incredible work Irit and Don! I was a very responsible and independent woman in my mid- fifties when I was deeply harmed by a psychiatrist I agreed to see while in cancer treatment because chemo and steroids had caused major insomnia. I was told I was seeing the psychiatrist simply to get “help with sleep meds”. This young and junior female psychiatrist prescribed me anti-psychotics at my first visit. I didn’t know what it was, I thought it was just a sleeping pill. I took it the first night and had horrific side effects so refused to take any more. That made her very angry. Then this psychiatrist tried to get me admitted to the psychiatric ward. When I refused that made her even more angry. A year after I last saw her (a total of 6 visits over 6 weeks) I discovered she had written many damaging lies about me and labelled me with 4 severe psychiatric diagnoses that are totally absurd and completely unfounded. These labels were the reason I ended up being forced against my will and without my consent to have a cancer-free body part removed. I am now paying dearly for the brutal and unneeded surgery and for her fictitious report and fake labels that she posted to the province-wide electronic Netcare system. The electronic records are accessed every time I require health care services and has very negatively affected every encounter I have since had with the health care system. It has led to stigma and discrimination I never knew existed, as well as extremely delayed and substandard treatment of any medical emergencies (i.e. a torn retina) and for me to continually be denied consults with specialists, etc. I have evidence of the severe violations made pertaining to unprofessional and unethical conduct and lack of consent, and lots more solid evidence that the damaging labels are totally false. I have been fighting to have my records corrected for 7 years but the College of Physicians and Surgeons of AB has staunchly defended her unjust actions. I was naïve and had no knowledge of the oppression, stigma and harm of psychiatry before. I thought I was alone in my traumatizing experience until I found this website. I am shocked and alarmed by the stories of harm done to so many other innocent people. I could not understand how it is that people were forced to take drugs and ECT until I began reading the various blogs and posts. After I read a couple issues of the Phoenix Rising tonight (thank you for the link) I was even more appalled. I so look forward to purchasing your book. If you do resort to self publishing it seems Balboa Press is a company that promotes books on self-help and improving your life. However I do hope you can find a publisher so the book can reach as many people as possible. Thank you and Bless you and Don for your incredible dedication and integrity to fighting these horrendous injustices.

  • Robert,
    I did not know how incredibly harmful psychiatry can be until I was blindsided by a psychiatrist I saw for “help with sleep meds” while I was in cancer treatment and struggling with insomnia. What I endured was corrupt, dishonest and shockingly cruel, a nightmare that left me in a state of shock and despair because of the permanent harm that has been done to my life. It was only a few months ago that I discovered this website and was blown away when reading some of articles and blogs that describe so much of what I experienced. It has been extremely helpful to read such validating, important and informative stories and blogs to expose the truth and harm of psychiatry. I believe my story is more undeniable proof of the sheer madness/stupidity of psychiatry and that their ‘labels’ are ridiculous and totally unsubstantiated. Until I experienced it for myself I had no idea and everyone needs to be aware of the dangers of agreeing to see a psychiatrist for any reason. From the bottom of my heart I thank you for your work and for this website.

  • Thanks for the excellent article. Finding the Mad in America website and reading such validating information has been very helpful for me in trying to deal with ongoing punishing consequences from agreeing to see a psychiatrist simply for “help with sleep meds” while I was in the midst of cancer treatments.