Thursday, May 24, 2018

Comments by Fred Abbe

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  • Whenever even the thought of social workers or therapists comes to mind I get a picture in my mind of those motherless baby monkeys in some cage in a zoo clinging to a woven wire monkey shaped construction that’s supposed to be their surrogate mother . At least the wire mom’s can’t refer the baby monkey to a psychiatrist.

  • Today on the news I heard “researchers” were looking for a million volunteers to each allow their entire genome to be donated , to “them” for “research” , that these “researchers” are determined to get this information whether it’s donated or not . Who are these “researchers” , puppets of the population control oligarch owned pHARMa cartel ?
    So much of today’s “research” is called for and done in the vast wasteland space between doctor frankenstein and doctor mengele , paid for by funds stolen from the people , proposed and launched with positive spin , by whom and to what purpose ?

  • They must sincerely feel that since the practice of Choreographed Kangaroo Court Long Term Commitment hearings are already in effect established , that it is their inalienable right , since they designed the clinical trials , to present whatever results they choose wherever and whenever they choose to or not at all. They must feel it is only a matter of time till they in effect can establish the practices and results , which they choose to establish . After all if we look around we can see what they’ve accomplished already.

  • In real time reality what is Lawrence Kelmenson, MD offering us that we don’t already have enough of. Therapy ?
    So how much has changed for the better since World War 1? We have for the great most part the increasing epidemic of psychiatry and we have compliance monitored by social workers with the real threat of being referred back to more drastic measures by the psychiatrist if compliance to the present psychiatric orders are not followed , as determined by the social worker. Now with the looming/actual added threat of unwanted home visits and the added threat of being forced into local Guantanamo like camera and voice recorder 24/7 monitored behavioral control facilities if not compliant in “regular” local mental institutions. While at the same time the Pharma Cartel is developing even more deadly neurotoxins and electrical devices to apply to our brains . Considering all the additional neurotoxins (those identified and not) “contributed” by industry. It must be that the human being has more potential resilience and drive to freedom than psychiatry wishes. Myself having been captured by psychiatry , forced in and even escaped out of institutions 6 times among numerous other forced stays and forced “treatments” including one series of 15 ESTorture in one institution and in another country’s institution out of the USA, forced injections till breath is stopped in retaliation after being recaptured after unauthorized escape, having evidently reached the status as available subject it was ok to do life threatening experiments on for the benefit of the state , satisfying their need to develop more effective interrogation techniques for their own and the US military. What about those electric shock devices used in Canton , Mass. on 80 out of 240 disabled people including children as described in detail in MIA’s blog on March 9, 2018 Massachusetts -Torture .
    During 39 years between the ages 16 and 55 psychiatry still had some kind of a hold on me . Now that I’m 71 I realize psychiatry itself is a growing holocaust.
    How many people is Lawrence weaning off neurotoxins? Does he even know how to do it ? On what basis does he disagree with Breggin ? You telling me he doesn’t even realize psychiatric neurotoxins and their prescribers and suppliers need to take responsibility for their part in mass school shootings , suicides , murders ,and violence ? Why aren’t psychiatrists that say they are different and kinder and gentler and care about us even more and say they are more knowledgeable than the mainstream psychiatrists , not demonstrating together on our behalf… using activist techniques like Code Pink used for the women’s rights cause in the white house , congress ,at APA meetings,universities, and elsewhere ? Then maybe we could begin to believe that dissident psychiatrists are for real and not primarily and secondarily interested in their own financial security and in their own power place in the pecking order.
    Toward psychiatry there must be defiance ! Just even the words Anti-Psychiatry bothers them . Just think if it was properly activated by an educated population !

    Who needs free access to organically grown foods , water distillers , green plant powder supplements ,top quality vitamins and minerals , nutriceuticals, advanced heavy mental free dental work , ,psychiatry free zones,natural healers ,traditional naturopaths, chiropractors, traditional chinese medicine, energy healers , acupuncturists, etc. ,that which first does no harm, more than those who have been tortured by psychiatry , big pharma , and the government. Show us the money !

  • It is far beyond anger , it is fury , if not justice then at least dreams of payback , much like in the movie Inglorious Bastards . There is a war going on and only one side is firing weapons and the other side remains targets, manufactured now from the youngest of ages to the very last breath into convenient , exploitable, stripped of any protections , useable and disposable at will , humans stripped of all their human rights , checkmated , laughed at and even subjected to specially choreographed kangaroo courts . A modern day Inquisition. Is it the Jesuits again behind this so they can continue molesting children and torturing everyone else even remotely suspected of non-compliance?
    Recently in a department grocery store I ran into the social worker that had power over me for some 20 years . Now retired and 84 years old , looking like he could keel over any second , still an embodiment of that arrogant soft spoken superior aire of one who routinely determines the fate of others with a stroke of a pen. I asked him how many in his over 30 year “career” had he seen like me who escaped psychiatry ? He said there were only 2 counting me .He was still suspicious , judgemental , analyzing , and threatening . I guess it came from decades of knowing psychiatry , big pharma , and the government , had his back.
    Lots a people experience a unique perfect storm of circumstances that make them visible to the butterfly net carriers of the Inquisition. Once captured probably the majority, in the millions , in the USA anyways have an income of less than $750 a month plus food stamps and run out of funds before the end of the month, all while subjected to debilitating pseudo scientific coerced physical and psychological “treatment”.
    Is this enough funds to explore the escape hatches a relatively few more financially fortunate victims have been able to explore ? Come on you employees, you soldiers , you designers of the Inquisition , you assholes , give the reparations you owe and stop the continued perpetration of this modern day eugenic nitemare holocaust.

  • The first compliance ritual ,the forced vaccinations at birth , monkey’s blood, formaldehyde, plus heavy metal compounds straight into the bloodstream -then more of the same on going until as many as 72 or so “vitally necessary” peutrafications are forced into the bloodstream. Then we have heavy metal mercury dentistry installing the second deadliest substance on the periodic table as amalgams in close proximity to the brain . Then there’s a good chance of getting beat up or raped by a family member or a “friendly stranger”. In a weakened state ,here comes psychiatry to take full advantage of their perceived opportunity to turn you into a lifetime compliant slave to pharmaceutical poisons and/or electrical hell and/or psychological brainwashing taking away from you every ally you might have left or any you may find in the future . We may know more than we want to. Certainly we know by now, there are guilds whose members can impose pseudo scientific procedures any way they choose on anyone they pick out , all sanctioned by a corrupt government they are part of. Don’t trust these mainstream guild member’s ,they are brainwashed themselves, outsmart them , your future does not include them , learn what you have to, elsewhere , you can overcome. I’m just one person that is living proof it can be done.

  • Ah ha moments and others : The Horrible cruelty of the system knows no bounds . Within the last 2 years here in “progressive” Oregon this is what happened. The “insurance company” notified a woman in her early fifty’s that after 15 years on Abilify the company could no longer afford to cover the costs of this “medication”. The woman’s social worker and supervisor called and told her if she came in and signed some papers they might be able to help her get some Abilify some other way . The woman told me she could not give them the satisfaction .She cold turkeyed and tried to compensate on her own with various THC- CBD marijuana oil combinations . She bounced in and out of 3 different hospital emergency rooms in less than 2 weeks . She called me and and asked me to pick her up each time . Soon after, she grew afraid trying to sleep in the sand dunes, afraid a homeless man she saw might rape her . She dropped her purse in a dept. store parking lot , knocked on a mobile home door and asked the man who answered if he could drive her to the nearest hospital emergency room . He said no and closed the door . She removed her dentures and left them by his door , then she went in the dark to the coastal highway and sat in the middle of the road on the yellow lines. A police car stopped and an “officer of the law” started questioning her . She just asked if he would take her to the hospital emergency room . They were 1 1/2 miles away from it. The officer said to her ” The only way I’m taking you to the emergency room is if you threaten my life. ” the woman looking at the ground replied softly “I’ll kill you if you don’t take me to the hospital.” The officer stood her up ,too tightly handcuffed her and put her into the back of his squad car . Meanwhile a man showed up telling the officer she had left these dentures outside his mobile home . Meanwhile in the tight cuffs scared to death the woman pee’d her pants as she sat in the back seat of the squad car . The officer yelled at her, that he would be the one that would have to clean that up. When he got to the hospital he told them in the emergency room that this woman had threatened his life . Now she became in their eyes a dangerous person to them. Even the local preacher when I asked him for some kind of help said he didn’t care if she died .There were more hospitals , a Guantanamo like place , a court hearing and somehow she avoided being locked away in a state institution . She even got an assisted unannounced home visit from a competing county’s mental health system asst. supervisor and one of his goons. This was even before the Murphy Bill was supposed to be passed. She is now too terrified to even think about trying to wean off wean off the 20 mg of Zyprexa she is now on or even to defy them anymore . She’s afraid of what might happen to her next time . She asks me to drive her to her appointments with them, and to help her get there on time.

    I also wanted to write more about flushing niacin and mineral baths that can be taken at home and other tools to avoid the mental death professionals and even electric shock , but maybe later , I’m too tired now .

    Also that the most vulnerable point in the present climate now within psychiatry, having to do with another type of electric shock torture ,is written about in the Torture – Massachuests Blog of March 9th here at MIA.
    Would be much easier to mobilize great numbers of people that could actually lead to millions showing up at the best location to protest and stop ongoing unrelenting electrical torture of a most vulnerable population .

  • “But, if there are better things ,I’m all ears !”

    At this point it’s not rocket science so to speak to understand that we have deprivations and impositions. Psychiatry is the Mother of all impositions .Abolish it . As well as most all of AMA “medicine” a grand imposition . Then we have the ADA heavy metal including mercury dentistry, another entrenched imposition. Then we have a eugenically adulterated and genetically modified and artificially limited food supply , another imposition and deprivation at the same time. I could go on and on. Minus the deprivations and impositions, Walla…. feeling great appears.

  • I’ve long considered the FDA among the most phoney corrupt of organizations . Are there not a couple hundred people in Massachusetts to storm the gates of this Roten Hell Hole . Maybe some military veterans who are still legally able to protect themselves can surprise them. Cause we all know this is like —- First they came for the ,,,,,,,and relentlessly tortured the most vulnerable helpless many of them certainly previously injured close to their birth time , by forced vaccinations and/ or traumatic abuse or some other forced eugenic AMA Medical or APA psychiatric impositions plus a lifetime of nutritional and other depravations, Or some other Corporate Poison approved by the FDA. Maybe it will take a couple of thousand , or a couple hundred thousand or a couple of million people or more , whatever it takes to bring justice to the complete array of perpetrators , from top to bottom and proper loving care for the children and adults so horrifically exploited while being tortured. Isn’t this an experiment of the fascist state to be rolled out further . WTF is going on . If this can’t be stopped nothing will be stopped .

  • Big Farm-a-ceutical Outfits design super addicting concoctions ,so addicting and harmful ,we should rightfully arrest them for poisoning citizens in the population. . Then via Psycho-chiatrists,who force them down peoples throats or inject sometimes by extreme force ,the poisons straight into a human being’s bloodstream. Of course there is more torture then that .Both forced on me, I had High Electric Voltage in the USA 1964, and breath stopping injections in Israel in 1968.
    Then without free access to compounding pharmacy (to optimize weaning off) no access (finances ) to pay for removal of heavy metal poison dental installations mercury etc. ( see Paracelsus Klinic Dr. Rau) look up ( Chris Shade mercury),(Hal Huggins dentistry) no possibility to give people a clean record no matter what they do, no equal status in society ever to be reached, or even living wage job opportunities . To call these people in the US or Israel or anywhere else “treatment junkies”and then saying your trying to build up more support for anti- psychiatry is an example of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing .
    It took me 40 years ,financial disability aid from USA government some belated family financial help ,$ 9000 worth of advanced Hal Huggins protocol dental work, and efforts like that of Hercules to get out of the grip of psychiatry and its poisons and torture . And I ,who am a natural anti-psychiatrist, should not have supreme compassion toward those still captured . Are You Kidding me ? Me being a little more fortunate financially than the majority captured, am even still in relative poverty here in the USA . I became a citizen scientist which to the rest is a nobody . But I got free of psychiatry without any psychiatrists “help” whatsoever.
    Soteria Israel —-YES!

    I was captured by force at the age of 16 . Freed myself at the age of 54. Will be 71 March 10th. I take no “medications whatsoever” and have no aches or pains except for concerns for my fellow human beings and worry about their ignorance and treatment of each other . No, I don’t know everything despite lived experience and home schooling my self. And I’m the only son of 2 Holocaust survivors .Go figure . Don’t give up hope.
    Baruch HaShem

  • I was just thinking today how psychiatric torture is like water it takes the path of least resistance and flows fastest at the most vulnerable ,and yet like a tidal wave carrying the fast moving debris is mindlessly prepared to take on most anyone else as well . Accept its been an ever long time and they still keep building up momentum without subsiding .While the perpetrators have access for themselves, expensive shelters and protective delusions . And the top part of them have secrets that are too painful for the people to entertain .
    Like the fact that for the multitudes of people ,both “educated” and “not”, AMA medicine and heavy metal ADA dentistry have long established a humungus beachhead of an intricate pseudo scientific torture network as standard of practice bringing to them cash and prestige and have set an example and create “clients” for the psychiatric juggernaut infinitely financed which joyfully carves out for itself a pseudo scientific niche of it’s very own with a free floating standard of torture that can be dialed up at will for self protection . Electric Shock is a horror part of the web of torture . Anyone really think we can abolish shock without working better together somehow . I was thinking a huge blockbuster movie series that the mass of people will want to see like the Matrix series is needed to at least throw a monkey wrench at psychiatric momentum. We all got to pick our spots . I stopped commenting for a while, for a few weeks, when I awoke in the night reliving a forced explosive electric shock treatment just like I literally not symbolically had forced on me 54 years ago . I just don’t want to read this particular new book of Bonnie’s as great a writer as I know she is . Self preservation comes first . So I can live to fight another day . I live with the woman I love , we love and support each other , one of us is for now forced to go to appointments with the enemy. We are both anti- psychiatry, day by day we and our dog take in the level of survival we can which is bathed in the love we shine on each other .

  • As far as I can see you are all doing the impossible .I know it is possible to do the impossible and succeed .I just don’t know how long it takes . I’m sorry so many have been hurt so bad . I hope you can find in your lives that which make you happy . I think of myself as brave but in this blog and comments I see another higher level of courage . I wonder if , if even the money was available and one of the most famous directors was willing ,if a remake with appropriate modifications, in this day and age, would even be allowed to be made of the film” One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest ” with a Woman in the leading MacMurphy role plus some updates .I’d leave nurse Ratchet as is and put in more scenes with some thought leader psychokiatrist. Maybe a scene of hijacking a truckload of shockboxes and burning them in fire .And chaseing big Farma Executives and some of their flunkies ,into the hills with pitchforks and lanterns in the night .

  • I spent over a month against my will in the psychiatric prison in Acre, Israel back in July, August of 1968 . In that place in those days 1/3rd of inmates never came out of there alive.I escaped from there twice . Retaliation was severe . I was experimented on. I tried to fight back . I tried to get the other inmates to fight back with me . The other inmates there called me Castro. I believe only because my parents inquired about me from the United States that I made it out of there alive . Finally I was escorted to board a passenger plane flying back to the States .When I arrived at O’hare Field in Chicago my sister smiled when she saw me and told me I wasn’t going to my parent’s place , two big men in white coats rolling a gurney were behind her, they strapped me in and took me away . I’ve never been back since .
    I never stopped loving Israel, cause I’m one of them ,even my Hebrew name is Israel, and I still do . I sure hope that Soteria Israel works and gains freedom for people and even for the riff raff like me .
    Thank You , Robert Whitaker and others as you continue to work trying to save lives .
    Truth is IMO being anti-psychiatry is natural as rain, from the very first forced move that psychiatry makes. But the terror and deception of psychiatry , big pharma , and corporate government ,tends to make us actually still react like deer caught in the headlights, even if we manage to get free from psychiatry, which we are not, until all individuals are free from any unwanted” treatment” , whatever mask that “treatment” is currently wearing .

  • By the way among those children raised within an Amish community ( not those having left and come back )
    The children NOT HAVING BEEN VACCINATED – UNVACCINATED- non of those have been diagnosed with “autism”. You have only to look at all the “ingredients within the “vaccines” do a little more investigation -to feel like puking at the audacity of the vaccine industry and the deception . Lookup “Simpsonwood” to see how a vaccination policy maker leaves a vaccination policy decision making meeting , to warn his own family not to allow their newborn baby to be vaccinated even while he’s attending at a meeting , advocating vaccinations for the rest of the population. ( Because he knows , he knows how dangerous they are)
    The people have been poisoned by vaccinations plus other equally horrific AMA “medical care”, ADA Heavy metal mercury + more ,root canal, and cavitation conventional “Dentistry”, Then you got poison food , GMO’s + other poison add ins, Of course you have the poison producing pharmaceutical cartels , and the horrorshow super-pseudo-science poison distributor with high voltage electroshock as a backup, we have psychiatry itself. All of it could be properly placed under the category of Rockefeller “Medicine”.
    Within, Homeopathy , Traditional Naturopathy , Energy Healing Systems like YuenMethod , organic grown foods, advanced Hal Huggins dentistry and other first do no harm methods , are found much better options for thriving and surviving .

    Just to add to the valid observations already made by the blogger and other commenters.

  • For example:
    Haldol affects 2 dopamine receptor subtypes ( it took me 10 years to finally get off of a 2mg. prescription of haldol alone )
    Abilify affects 10 different receptor subtypes
    Zyprexa affects approximately 17 different subtypes of receptors
    When these “meds” are lowered the body has to adapt to the number of receptors that become unblocked.
    Reading between the lines- it appears thought leader psychiatrists are so optimistic about the future of their “field”- because they understand – their own suppliers the pharmaceutical cartel are in effect entirely unrestrained as to their right to invent- label -and have distributed -as “medicine” any substance or mixture of substances (poisons of all types or whatever)- to shut down/ or retard any human brain function or body function, targeting any place within the brain or human body as they see fit . While psychiatrists themselves can label people for life -via the DSM- and increasingly force medicate and monitor human beings with a growing rigor-and apply to them a growing ever more deadly arsenal of “meds” – ever more difficult to withdraw from- plus higher voltage electric shock if the psychiatrist wishes . Even if we think we left psychiatry behind the nursing homes which many humans hope not to enter is a world of unrestricted psychiatric, pharma and “medical” oppression . And the Hospice – we will get morphine whether we want it or not .
    There are ethical practitioners that can help people ease withdrawal even at MIA’s own list of resources.Take the time to investigate thoroughly and choose wisely . Tools for a withdrawal tool box are not all in only one place . Don’t forget survivors that have come out the other end of it may have self developed first do no harm withdrawal and survival techniques which are not respected sufficiently by “professionals” “academics” or anyone else that make them reluctant to cast their pearls into the public arena only to be laughed at . Do we really think that big-pharma think tanks are short the funds to counter anything they hear about ?

  • I thank G-D I was able to learn directly from the most effective energy healer that I know of on the planet , Dr. Kam Yuen D C and learned directly from Dr.Joseph Liss N D the most effective Traditional Naturopath I ever met and that I taught myself Homeopathy, and so much more in fields that first do no harm . I’m thankful I was treated by Scott McAdoo DDS a Hal Huggins DDS trained dentist after which I was able to completely come off any psychiatric “care” or “meds” of any kind. I Feel Good . People need the space and freedom to follow their own path. https://nationalhealthfreedom.org

  • TirelessFighter3, Ground control to Major Tom :
    You presume a lot about people that is not accurate, but you also make some important points. Your ideas that all middle class families should be broken up sounds weird to me . I can’t spend the time it would take to teach you stuff , may you grow understanding . I read all 25 or so comments you’ve made here at MIA. Before you start judging me feel welcome to read at least all of the over 800 comments of mine . You may really learn something by doing that. Basically I’m Anti-Psychiatry and for HealthFreedom that ensures for the individual the inalienable right to accept or reject for themselves any type of care from anywhere on the planet. I’ve probably been fighting against psychiatry, to the best of my ability in my own way for longer than you’ve been alive . Best Wishes, Check Out https://www.YuenMethod.com
    Fred

  • Leave what does not bear good fruit . Investigate something productive that is real and bears good fruit.
    Spiritual , Physical, Mental , Emotional , Psychological , Psychic .
    Each one of the above can influence the other 5 .
    Furthermore if you learn how to access your own subconscious which knows everything about yourself , and while you are in a neutral state , you can find the cause or causes for any issue of concern within you on any of the above 6 levels. You can strengthen yourself learning to focus your own intention . Even children of grammar school age can learn to do this even easier than an adult who has more preconceptions and more trouble approaching things from a neutral state . A neutral state is sort of like ” Ok , let’s see what happens”. The proof is in the pudding and this pudding is at the cutting edge of science which leaves a whole lot of futile pseudo science behind. Investigate and you will be glad you did. https://YuenMethod.com

  • In finding ways to fight back one must be able to observe oneself and watch how anger can grow inside like a giant billowing storm cloud and then watch how it can subside . Anger can sometimes take on a life of its own and make a showing where it’s not really intended. Then innocent people can get hurt and a person, without wanting to , can become what they hate . Justice is important . Getting an apology and reparations would be helpful and are necessary . Resorting to violence except in self defence could be the continuation of an unwanted cycle. Didn’t someone say living well is the best revenge . Can relentlessly seeking revenge ruin a person’s chances to reach their full potential and use their talents in a positive way . My mother and father were both Holocaust Survivors .I could see how my father’s justified anger twisted him . I saw how when we made peace between each other how relieved and happy we both were. Yet my mother who endured even more, and told me that I went through a lot ( more than 40 years till I freed myself from psychiatry and big pharma ) It’s been 10 years free now. My mother reminded me often ,” Fred today is the first day of your life .”
    We must fight for justice and human rights in the wisest way possible , not adding hurt on to ourselves , and in a way that can be sustained over the long haul in the company of friends, and allow ourselves to take a break when needed to tend to our own well being in ways of our own choosing. Also we need to understand there are many idea’s out there , and that the best ones come when we are relaxed and at peace with ourselves .

  • I think what are called by many the mainstream medical professions – the guilds AMA ,APA, ADA(dental) – three associations – loaded with varying amounts of pseudoscience – their symbols some variation of the staff and the coiled snake – which to some is a picture symbolic of a human being enwrapped within the coils of the anaconda – controlling – squeezing the money and/or life out of the human being – sometimes in a time release fashion and sometimes almost instantly – the 3 work together in effect – like some kind of 3 part epoxy glue – creating ever increasing numbers of coerced/voluntary desperate customers for each other – First the AMA’s mandatory growing number of vaccinations administered even right at birth and continuing onwards – then the ADA’s heavy metal dental work much of it 53% mercury amalgams – ( I wouldn’t want to forget the part played by the ethicless food and water and even air adulteration industries ) – then of course – in the most outrageous one upmanship in the vast field of pseudoscience – we have the American Psychiatric Association – so far beyond any real human oversight that anti-psychiatry is the only known antidote – and even farther beyond any human oversight – with its deadly overview – the pharma cartel from hell . As we reflect how kids get high and die in the USA .

  • Thank You madmom for your stand-up for your daughter, prevailing over the power and authority of the psychiatrist . I to have seen how when a family member stands up for their loved one , at the right time and place with a strategy of non-violent action, they can singlehandedly make a psychiatrist or even an owner of a “clinic” , if there are no other employes in the room, back-off, if the strategy clearly involves exposing the injustice to the clear light of day for many others to hear about, they back -off in fear of losing reputation and future cash flow . Definitely worth the effort. Psychiatrists count on the family members approving anything they say , which most of them do.
    Your understanding , love , and bravery, carried the day, protected your daughter, and now inspires others .Until one day when shock is abolished actions like yours and others , can save individuals in real time as the daily atrocities continue . Maybe Bonnie’s book can be made into a movie ?
    Thank You , fred

  • If psychiatry was abolished ,would AMA medical doctors be still prescribing the same old “meds” , and if not couldn’t big pharma easily put the stuff in the food/and/or water supply ? Or spray it into the air by way of airplane all the while telling everyone it was a newly formulated necessary something or other? Or just bring it back in some “necessary” open behavioral control program . All similar to finding another tax loophole for the oligarchs. What happens to all the prison inmates on neuroleptics etc ? If psychiatry was abolished ? Or what if Big Pharma comes out with even more deadly drugs or puts the neuroleptics in over the counter non- prescription drugs?
    If psychiatry was reformed ? I don’t see any evidence on the street that psychiatry has become anything but worse .The drugs are more dangerous and the voltages higher in the shock” business”. Are the oligarch’s really going to allow any real trace of leniency into psychiatry?
    How can anybody talk about any movement against psycho-pharma when they’ve institutionalized labeling & drugging children and the entire population has taken it all in stride . A society does not let anybody take their children unless they are terrified and helpless .
    Both “movements” seem to be sterilized . Oh I forgot Bill Gates is sterilizing woman and culling babies out of their lives with the oligarch eugenic vaccination plan.
    And so few understand what health freedom means . What are the real plans of both opposing “movements”.The psycho-farm plan is sickness, sterilization , and culling for dollars.
    And unfinanced movements or “government financed” movements are going to be a big help to us ?
    Where is the Beef ? I haven’t seen any since Robert Whitaker’s books . One sentence in one of them helped me become free of psychopharma the last 10 years.
    Biggest problem is people don’t listen to what each other are saying, and trusting and working with others, after what many of us have been through seems almost impossible without meeting in person with people over quite a bit of time . And the heartless Psychiatry and Pharmaceutical cartel owned by heartless oligarchs rolls on and the real knowledge of survivors put on a rear burner because the formally educated hardly understand that real education comes from real life experience , persistence and determination . not colleges set up and owned by oligarchs.

  • We recognize there is a massive movement of human beings into a Pharmaceutical-Feedlot-Compliance-Project .
    Most of us strongly oppose this and clearly do not ever want to become inmates , feedlot supervisors , or other workers of descending rank in this criminal enterprise.
    We must establish that the right to opt out and/or not be further pursued is an inalienable human right. We don’t presently for various reasons have the capacity to mount massive ongoing million people demonstrations to back down the oppressors.
    We need to be prepared to disobey in mass ,in massive ongoing civil disobedience demonstrations which necessitates joining with others fighting for human rights that respect our cause and human rights and will not sell us out down the river .
    We strongly support all genuine efforts at helping people withdraw from pharmaceutical poisons if they so choose.
    We are not opposed to friends helping friends in real shelters or Soteria houses or people freely choosing what they want or what they want to reject . People do not have the right to own another person as a financial resource or as any other resource . We must have the right to say “Thank you very little , I’m leaving , Good bye.”
    That’s all I can think of right now.

  • Sadly Jody I saw a 20 something severely physically disabled man in a wheelchair who had very limited use of his limbs in addition to speech difficulty also confined with the rest of us in the private mental institution , Ridgeway Hospital in Illinois . If me and another inmate didn’t help him bathe and feed him sometimes , the staff would just let him lie or sit in his own waste most times. Some times they spoon fed him other times he would just throw his face into a plate with a hard boiled egg and just eat it shell and all.They did give him “medications”. This was 50 years ago .Your blog is an extension of what’s been going on in a similar way but now with more technology , for who knows how long ?

  • The problems are so severe that here in the USA the military would have to arrest the oligarchs and Crimes Against Humanity Trials would be needed to return power to the people .The law placed in the constitution by stealth that corporations are people needs to be revoked. Too big to fail cartels need to be dealt with including the federal reserve. Power has to be returned to the people nationally and locally in a democratic way. Probably many things have to be done by trial and error with the first do no harm to the people principal at the forefront. Real checks and balances , nobody above fair laws, need to arrive at fairness and justice and human rights, no absolute power junkies dictating anything to anyone . Bottom line if people can’t even live the simple principal live and let live, any system is bound to fail. How can they live in peace among each other and not harm each other and still live in a way like the declaration of independence talks about if so many don’t even have the basic necessities of life and while fanatical united oligarchs are actively exploiting and culling the population by a multitude of strategies via the cartels they control with poisons and countless other deprivations increasingly delivered and mandated by law literally into the people.
    I don’t have even close to all the answers . Do You ? Have you ever heard of the Georgia Guidestones ? Probably financed by Ted Turner somehow .They want to reduce the planet’s population ideally to 500,000,000 people . A manageable amount for the fanatical oligarchs to rule over. They are getting bolder and bolder . But they are afraid of the people waking up while they count on us being too afraid to do anything. I believe the psych drugs and other chemicals they distribute, target the parts of the brain that ordinarily have to do with people working together toward a common goal , and tend instead by other means as well to turn naturally social human beings into oppressed , deprived , isolated , human beings thereby making us more easily targeted by the oligarch’s fanatical think tank aided agenda ,which is so over the top that few can see it and so far oligarchs seem to be gaining momentum . No I don’t know the answer as many tilt at windmills and many others hide . In these times growing an organic garden may be the most revolutionary thing we can get away with doing.

  • Thanks R. R, Thought people should hear about it.
    The court system for commitment hearings is basically literally a classic kangaroo court. I talked once to a former prosecutor turned defence attorney that at first denied this and later admitted knowing it was . I tried to hire them to get some false police testimony taken out of the record . She said , “I’ve done all the pro bono work i’m going to do this year.” “It will cost you $5000 in advance to correct the record and $10,000 more in advance to to bring charges against the police officer, with no guarantees.” Another lawyer on the same issues said,” let her go to the state institution they’ll help her there.” Yeah. Right.
    F.A.

  • Thanks Frank, I value your opinion , maybe the declaration needs to be modified . I thought it had our issues covered . I wish you had the time to look at the declaration and into that particular organization more deeply as I believe they could be a great aid in ridding us of forced psychiatry as well as any other forced treatments in the guise of any kind of medical care by strengthening free choice. I know we agree that psychiatry is a deadly hoax. Take care,
    Fred

  • oldhead,
    Whatever restrictions, would need to be discussed and voted on by the people, and other issues as well , rather than being imposed from above by the people who have stolen everything or anyone else. The people will have to decide how to get there from here through discussions and voting . If discussions and voting are not seen as important and people don’t care enough about mutually guaranteed survival, the “elite” will only accelerate culling operations by many various means. Meanwhile we still have to chop wood and carry water.
    What do you think of the idea’s in the Health Freedom declaration , that particular organization, and if they could protect people from forced psychiatry the way they are written or with some modification ? I think they are important enough to give them more than a casual look. It’s up above in my oct. 13 comment with the link just below that. Thanks,
    Fred

  • One of the things in life that might last forever is the everlasting joy of having broken free from psychiatry’s and pharma’s death grip . It’s been 10 years so far . The key is understanding your enemy better than they understand themselves, growing stronger,and zapping back , by doing your best to free others from their clutches even if it’s only one person at a time .

  • Frank,
    Isn’t supporting the Health Freedom declaration from 2006 a way to go into reverse on the medicalization or at least the coercive medicalization? Also if enough people did support it wouldn’t it help realize the anti-psychiatry goal of abolishing at least coercive psychiatry ? I would be interested in your thoughts on this . Also the thoughts of other commenters.
    Thanks , Fred
    The declaration is printed out above in my Oct.13 comment.

  • Thanks for replying so clearly uprising . Did you ever notice how hard the elite work to keep the people isolated from each other ? Maybe it means communes need to be started maybe supported by organic farming. Who has the funds for that ?
    Anyways as far as our issues go it seems clear to me , how anti- psychiatry and Health Freedom can both work together to possibly ,remove coercive psychiatry from existence and prevent another entity from picking up their activities.That is if enough people get active about it. That is our best realistic chance I believe. I am also concerned about ruthless big pharma developing even deadlier poisons to force on the population . They make the tobacco cartel seem like charitable organization.

  • I like this blog and anyone who could put there time in as a project director for a Soteria House.
    Seems this blog could be looked at for a long time and many new and different , or rehashed old ideas would easily come to mind upon each rereading.
    The idea of dams or blockages to the natural flow , and then even more blocking , Mother Nature’s natural flow will inevitably burst those dams . Within a human being only so much bullshit can be spun before the whole system rebels and seeks a new equilibrium . In a society is there not a point where if more and more people are in a situation where oppression is clearly growing that a tipping point is reached and people know without saying enough is enough and soon revolution just breaks out . Are these corrections not in the interests of survival , whose lives are lost or ruined while the blockages remain ? Whose lives are lost or ruined with the inevitable bursting of these dams ? Is it just a matter of where are the tipping points and the various factors or levers, people /and /or computers/ and /or think tanks believe they can pull . Are these pullers of levers elected or self appointed. If self appointed how many people outside of themselves are they willing to sacrifice to try and keep a status quo in place they feel is beneficial to themselves . Most especially if they can print unlimited funds , and as we know absolute power corrupts absolutely can we not expect them to be willing to sacrifice an unlimited number of lives ? Or is this all about the” best laid plans of mice and men” or” who are they all in their high conceit when man in the bush
    nature doth meet “.
    Or as Omar Khayyam once said ” Enjoy what little time yee yet may spend before yee too into dust descend. ”
    Seems to me that those who carefully try to live ” What is hateful unto thee, do it not unto another” while walking their talk and using their talents to create a reality that first does no harm to anyone are the people I am least afraid of. The purveyors of pseudoscience in the multitude of areas for profit and control present a real problem.
    Just someone who was electroshocked and cannot match the creative brainpower of the writer of this blog . But once there was a time when I could .I’m 70 now and I love being alive and drug free.

  • What about restricted capitalism with agreed limits on income so a few can’t run off with the whole monopoly game?
    I lived on a kibbutz in Israel for 11 months starting 2 months after the 6 day war in 1967 when I was 21 years old, was a voting member. My suggestion for the new name of the kibbutz was voted for . We had under 50 members . We voted on everything. Best system to live in I ever experienced. Still ended up in the loony bin . What can I say. People don’t listen to each other and don’t have time to hear each other out anywhere I’ve been. Anyways had mercury poisoning but was unaware of it . That will get you in some kind of a loony bin under any system in the world and in any country most likely. Finally got it taken care of fully by the time I was 60 years old. I’m 70 years old now . 10 years removed from all pseudo scientific psychiatric “treatments ” or Pseudo scientific dental treatments, also free of AMA pseudo scientific medical treatments
    Corina and mad mom are right about individuals starting their own business . Saez may be a wise man in many ways but his and other peoples malingerer rants are for the most part bullshit . No one knows everything . Anyways how do you super anti- capitalists support yourselves ? Live off Mommy ? We all know we have a better chance of driving a semi truck through the eye of a needle then of ending capitalism in the USA.Yeah ,I know about the federal Reserve and Jekyll Island. What happens to the psychiatrically oppressed meanwhile and others also. Maybe the young people have the right idea . google 4 non blondes what’s up live

  • Attention Joanna Moncrieff MD,
    People in America with diagnosis are on the cusp of being locked up or forcibly injected in their homes for attempting to shave their meds to avoid sleeping all day and/or feeling zombified.Many of the drugs are time release and coated so the can’t be shaved safely . You really believe psychiatrists have a right to do this to people making them feel more dead than alive forcefully and then saying nonsense about underlying “mental illness “is to blame . Do you realize the actual role of 53% mercury dental amalgams cause a wide spectrum of mental phenomena that gets diagnosed in 1 in 15 people who have them in there mouths. Look up Dr. Chris Shade founder of http://www.quicksilverscientific.com He himself had 17 amalgams in his own mouth and was mercury poisons . Please investigate this deeply for the sake of millions of lives I beg you . I my self had 15 of them installed in my mouth . After their removal and other dental care according to Hal Huggins DDS protocols I experienced immediately the most powerful positive transformation of my life. See also Dr. RAU of the Paracelsus Klinic http://www.therauway.com his own website Please investigate I have and experienced . This is for real . Too many have ignored this piece of the puzzle . I haven’t.
    Thank you , Fred Abbe
    Help save the people don’t perpetuate pseudo scientific diagnosis.

  • Actually within any mental hospital I found myself in ,involuntary or otherwise the rebellious nature of McMurphy like anti-authoritarian/ anti-psychiatry definitely made a showing . I and others made sure of it .And that was even years before the movie came out or any awareness by me of any book or that any movements existed .With half a dozen escapes under my belt , from 3 different mental institutions . Ridgeway Hospital at least once, Reed Zone Center at least 3 times, both in Illinois, and from a former prison mental institution in Akko , Israel 2 times, the second time after they tortured and experimented on me after recapturing me. I tried to organize everyone for a mass escape , One inmate called me Castro . Also was involved in covering up 3 escapes by others including aiding one woman in her escape, one in each of the 3 “institutions” I mentioned.
    Within this year I visited someone very close to me locked up against her will behind 2 locked doors on a psych floor of a hospital here on the Oregon Coast. Women have that brave McMurphy spirit to, even more so . In a group headed by a nurse , the inmate ( Miss McMurphy we’ll call her ,to protect the innocent)(heres what happened as she told me later) brought up in discussion,” Why do you force medications on children? Nurse, “We’re doing that to keep them from killing themselves.” Miss retorted ” They’re killing themselves to get away from you , Nurse Ratched !.” . The other inmates in the group started laughing and Miss had her arm wrenched back by a psychiatrist . As she was drinking some cool water out of a styrofoam cup, it poured onto the psychiatrist. On a different day she came out of her room naked and announced “It’s the Emperor’s new clothes .”
    Well , they brought her to “trial” ( I saw it all , in the hallway and sitting in the peanut gallery, up until I spoke out and they “escorted” me out of the “court room” ) in Roseburg Oregon ,her commitment hearing, in blue uniform ,a 2 guard escort , in Hannibal Lector full waist, hand and foot shackles . The only thing missing was the hockey mask. They had pre -arrangements, kangaroo court style ,and were dead set on committing her for at least 6 months into the State Insane Asylum where I believe the movie Cuckoo’s Nest was actually filmed . I believe it used to be called Dammasch Insane Asylum.
    Miss had a public defender in on the Kangaroo, testimony was by live amplified telephone calls by cop, social worker, and psychiatrist. All Lied, the psychiatrist testified under oath by telephone that Miss had poured hot coffee on him. A cop testified she only hung out with other mentally ill people and smoked pot ( which is legal in Oregon). The judge asked the social worker whether and where Miss was going in for counseling . The social worker said she was not. That’s when I yelled out loudly from the peanut gallery, yes she was ,the phone number and name of a different social worker in an adjoining county she was seeing.I even called the judge “your Honor”. He had me escorted from the gallery by 2 officers. Once in the hallway I told the guards I had to speak out . One smiled at at me and said “I know you did.”
    Today Miss and I are safe taking things day by day. I have Miss’s permission to post this .

  • ” For every human being is part of the single soul that is the spirit of the universe.” ( The Thirteen Petalled Rose by Adin Steinsaltz )
    I read your blog again and followed the link by your picture (coaching people coming off psychiatric drugs).Seems you are, in a sense occupying psychiatry , being and living the change you want to see happen, using your considerable understanding and your talents without compromise . You are very brave and we are very fortunate to have you blogging here. The help you offer to people is priceless.

  • To me the word psychiatry itself is abuse. It is the blind from birth cyclops ,unleashed by the oligarchs upon the people including the children. It is a form of virulent unregulated, government owned by oligarchs ,systematic abuse . The blog rings with truth everyone should know,and too many of us have experienced, but advocating that some variety of psychiatry , a reformed psychiatry, a “true psychiatry” (an oxymoron if I ever heard one) is the answer, is false and it seems could only be put forth in this manner by someone that does not actually understand the psychiatric industry.Apologies yes, reparations yes , kindness and friendship yes , jail sentences yes, payback yes , no more child abuse tolerated , no more wars for Oligarch profit, no more coercion,no more oppression, and no more psychiatry.

  • How willing/able are you to shelter/ hide a friend pursued by psychiatry if they show up at your door in search of sanctuary ? How do we stop psychiatry in real time from picking people off one by one ? Whether there is immediate success or not, many of us that understand Psychiatry from experience “at the point of the spear” know beyond any doubt we will fight them , to the best of our ability and understanding , whether there is unity or not , because we know beyond words that psychiatry is worse than death and it represents the enslavement of humanity . Psychiatry’s falseness is so profound and such a horrible coercive tool as it serves oppressors, that it is natural as rain , for the sake of human life , to vigorously oppose psychiatry unto it’s demise , by all who love freedom.

  • At this point it makes sense to me that we should turn the lies psychiatry and pharma tell everybody, against them.This will unite huge numbers of people including us ,demanding and expanding basic fundamental human rights which are necessary for everyone’s survival . For example take the lie that psycho – pharma, is part of some kind of real health care ,when it is obvious it is part of a coercive behavioral population control alternating open air /institution complex .I propose since they’ve put so much effort to create this hoax we can turn it back on them by adding ourselves to the ranks of the Health Freedom Movement and helping it grow , if we feel it is truly for the benefit of humanity. See below — World Health Freedom Assembly 2006 –was adopted Sept. 29th & 30th–2006 St. Paul Minnesota–International Declaration of Health Freedom
    We Declare That
    Recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice, and peace in the world.
    Among the inalienable rights are not only the right to life , liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but also the right to health, well being, and survival.
    Health is a state of physical, mental, spiritual, and personal social well-being, and not the absence of disease or infirmity.
    In order to secure the right to health, a human being must be able to exercise his/her fundamental right to privacy and self-determination and the right to make personal choices in pursuit of health,healing, well-being and survival.
    The right to choose requires that every individual holds the right to ultimately decide whether to obtain or reject any health treatment, research, or advice.
    In order to fully exercise the fundamental, right of privacy and self-determination, full access to health care practitioners, healers, researchers, treatments, services, products, devices, substances and information sources of their choice must be protected and preserved for each member of the human family.
    Full access to health care practitioners, healers, researchers,treatments,services,products,devices,substances and truthful information is an inherent and fundamental right and is independent of the actions of any government or other regulatory public or private bodies.
    There exist world-wide diverse healing arts theories, practices, treatments, substances,and modalities that are deemed by people to contribute to their health and well being,whether by one human or by many and they need to be protected and available to all members of the human family.
    The global adoption of these principals will strengthen the foundation of freedom, justice, and peace in the world.

    I’ll put up some links later. Seems to me this could sit well with most everybody .

  • You pick a psych drug poison , say Zyprexa for example . You find at least 3 people who have really been strung out on it for at least a year or more, on more than a minimal dose . If they managed to wean off and are now off that particular poison and are totally psych-drug free and are also medical drug free . If they use or used first do no harm methods like Traditional Naturopathy , Homeopathy ,included home made herbal extracts,vitamins , Energy healing methods, wilderness tripping etc. , in a safe place with one or more friends for support . Have figured a strategy for dealing with “mental health professionals and the pharma system” meanwhile to keep them off their back. We want to hear their stories in detail, related live ,with them open to questions from an audience .At least 3 such people for each drug poison , or drug poison cocktail. How they dealt with and how much recovering if any from high voltage shocks if any of them have achieved it. All these people should be the featured up front speakers.
    The so called salaried “professionals” that have made some bucks , even if a minority have been on psych drugs or are still on them .And I’m not saying they can’t be of some benefit, but not to the extent of real survivors of long term hell, like myself. Instead of rethinking psychiatry so much, let them finance and open up an underground compound pharmacy where all the drug poisons can be made available as titrated liquids in various doses for those that want to wean off the poison drugs safely over time.We need available liquid titrated poison psych drugs with or without scripts, for those in need . Safe houses too ,with organic food and distilled water available , good books, music etc.
    Now that’s the way to design a seminar .

  • Olga,
    So well said . I’m reminded of a line from a song Joan Baez used to sing.
    “There but for fortune go you or I.”
    ” ….and even more reason to carry on the battle that Matt was a part of.”
    In solidarity,
    Fred

  • It’s a dead end road studying the conventional psychiatric writings that most all psychiatric mainstream “professionals” get their “knowledge” from . Just look at what kind of a trap the vast majority of these “professionals” have got themselves and us into . Voltaire said, ” Those that believe in absurdities will commit atrocities .” Clearly they have done that ,they do that , and they will continue to do that for I don’t know how long .They are connected to a ,government controlled by oligarchs ,controlling mainstream media,population surveillance ,policing, ,educational systems, food adulteration , Quality of air , and water , eugenic population weakening and culling “every which way but loose”, through administration of chemical and biological concoctions advertised as “health giving medicines”, food & water “additives “, pest control agents, and through sweeping away most all human protective regulations that limit the outrages the oligarch owned industries commit . Psychiatrists are the dealers of some of these poisons , can inject them into the bloodstream, force poison pills down people’s throats , Electrify their brains etc .Psychiatrists 100 percent pseudo science . Medical doctors at least 66 2/3 % pseudo science . MAYBE not as much forcefully applied pseudo science by AMA medical people and ADA dentists . But certainly more than most people realize or allow themselves to believe.
    It is much more productive to deeply study Traditional Naturopathy , Homeopathy ,Yuen Method ( an , advanced energy healing system). Read and study what survivors say here at MIA . Learn and ask them questions . Find someone that’s survived something like your going through, by using first do no harm means .Try to learn something from them . You probably don’t have to totally reinvent the wheel. But if you study this stuff you’ll be able to if necessary .
    Inspire yourself listen to the song 4 Non Blondes-What’s Up-YouTube

  • That wailing wall with all the names on it of people tortured, maimed, or/and killed by coercive quackery under the guise of “medical care” (today it’s Rockefeller Medicine) , would probably extend 100 times longer in length then the Great Wall Of China and longer than that if names of the casualties of wars engineered by the oligarch’s were included . Truth be known not many names could be excluded from that wall . Vaccinations to the newborn, the initiation ceremony to the “wonderful” world of medical quackery , rising coercion ,realize that before you can even speak they claim the right to inject poisons into your bloodstream.
    And yet there exists Traditional Naturopathy , nature , and maybe the possible escape into the wilderness.

  • https://nationalhealthfreedom.org-freedom-congress/health-freedom-congress/
    At the above link don’t miss reading the International Declaration of Health Freedom which can be found by scrolling down to the year 2006. It’s wonderful ! (Even though psychiatry has nothing whatsoever to do with health except stealing it , the Health freedom movement has the potential to provide some freedom for psychiatry’s victims (in light of all the multi generational brainwashing that’s transpired)as well as allopathic medicines victims : past, present, and future. If enough people support it, that is.

  • And yet psychiatry remains as pure 100% unadulterated bullshit.
    Even though psychiatry has nothing to do with health
    more people would benefit in regard to freedom if we all joined the main health freedom movement which eventually could grow into massive demonstrations demanding freedom in our own choices free of all coercion with the freedom to reject pseudo science whenever and in whatever field the oligarchs are financing and inserting it in .
    FREEDOM MUST BE TAKEN , ANTI-PSYCHIATRY TO THE CORE, REBEL THE CARTEL .

  • And as I turned 18 it wasn’t relevant how well meaning the “psych doctor” was , as he could probably decide how intense the voltage and for sure how long to apply it to my brain , 15 times every other day against my will. Although feeling continuously terrorized , held against my will all that time , what I felt during the 14th electrical brain shocking , was a pain for 5 seconds that seemed endless and was like an atomic bomb going off in the center of my brain outwards and the brightness of the explosion extending to outside my skull . I told them about the pain and please no more of this . They told me there was no pain and casually continued in their ” profession “. And I should be more careful about writing off psychiatry and psychiatrists as evil because , if what I said here is not enough to make them all renounce psychiatry, then nothing ever will . And I haven’t even scratched the surface in telling of the crimes against humanity they’ve committed against me, let alone the countless millions or billions of others that so far have not seen any semblance of justice for the torture and terror they had to , and too many still have to , endure .

  • When I listened to a video on youtube that explained what 4 substances do that are released in the brain I realized how big pharma is funded to purposely target their “drugs” in such a way that weakens the human being . The delivery systems of their poisons and Monsanto’s can be through any industries the oligarchs control and through various means , like through food , water , and through the air . While at the same time , the teachings of Traditional Naturopathy and other modalities in line with nature are suppressed . Herbs for example are seen by much of the population as ineffective because of media propaganda and because the standardized strength of most of them that are allowed to be sold over the counter by the bottle , are so regulated as to make them too weak to do anything . People need to learn to make there own medicines (to make their own herbal extracts out of herbs gathered or bought in bulk amounts and used in industrial strength along the lines of historical use . Richard Schulze ND is a great teacher of that . Has many youtube videos . Organic foods are priced so high it seems you almost have to be on a psychiatrist’s salary to afford them. We need to be able grow our own somehow.
    Anyways the first video I wrote about can be found by typing in the search line at http://www.youtube.com
    Simon Sinek : The Video That Will Change Your Life

  • Thank you very much . Your blog clarifies how the main body of today’s psychiatrists are just as deadly as the psychiatrists were in Hitler’s Germany during World War ll when they volunteered to make up 40% of Hitler’s SS .
    Today the US goes to war against isis and the taliban while not even one Seal Team is assigned to even slightly curtail the much larger global terrorism threat pharma and psychiatry perpetrate globally on the population and the youngest of our children .

  • The robber barons fund and unleash the moral busybodies to torment us until we are so broken down no one wants us around anymore , then we don’t want ourselves around so we check out and everybody misses us .Who was that masked man anyways .
    To what purpose ? Experimental subjects for evidence based scientific research into what parts of the human brain can be most easily targeted with suggestive brainwashing curses , chemicals , biological agents , electricity , heavy metals , poisons , or whatever , to make a human being into an isolated individual, incapable of organizing a revolution or working for a mutual determined goal with others, and into an even more vulnerable easily targeted isolated subject for further exploitation , experimentation , or disposal , and all under the guise of “health care”.
    Sounds like the new world order, brave new world on steroids . There seems to be method to the madness of the oligarchs . After all they believe themselves to be royalty and entitled to rule .

  • I’m sorry for our loss of Matt Stevenson . He was so young , So talented , brilliant , creative, I didn’t even realize or remember that Matt also posted as BPDTransformation . And he was so thoughtful and showed kindness to so many here , and a warrior for his beliefs . By the time his interview with Paris Williams appeared I realized how , how fortunate we were to have Matt blogging and commenting here. I’d hoped one day he’d interview me . May Matt Stevenson have peace and bliss in the world of eternal life and his family and friends be comforted .

  • Thank you Eric . You are a first class writer and analyst . The comments are also enlightening , special thanks to bthate.
    The funding behind eugenics has only grown (since World War 2 ,hidden under the word genetic ) , as well as the amount of funds available to the true believer billionaire class plutonomy . Stealth strategy , outright lies , double speak , life friendly catchphrases for programs of sinister design , the ever workable strategy of hyper funding to pass off selected pseudo science as science , ignoring everything else while making a fervent effort to reach the holy grail of maintaining and growing power and wealth and control of the population and the planet , throughout a massive genocidal culling process all done with the various mainstream industries, the billionaire class owns . These cartels include “medicine”” health care” “drugs” ,” food” , “agriculture” , “energy”, “news” “media” “electronics” , chemicals and biological agents and yes “psychiatry” ,governments ,and more. They feel people can be controlled by chemicals and biological agents . They believe politics and social programs are not needed . Yes an Invisible Holocaust , a Silent Shoa bigger and more encompassing than most all people would even want to think about even as it is really happening . Rockefellers and Carnegies and their fellow travellers were never on trial in Nuremberg. They never stopped planning and organizing crimes against humanity . And it will take the best efforts of humanity working together if it is even possible to stop them . A must read book by a leading analyst of the New World Order . YES A MUST READ cannot miss book.
    Seeds of Destruction (The Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation) by F. William Engdahl

  • A really sick one indeed ! There are brilliant souls that communicate differently in the face of unrelenting torture , whose movement should ignite a movement , to take down the psych-pharma-eugenic -industrial- government -big brother complex . Evidently not enough people are awake enough , to be sooooooo entirely sick of it . Actually if the machine chose a random thousand Harvard , Yale , Princeton and Rhodes Scholars, and it forced unrelenting neuroleptic “treatment” it eventually would create movement in all of them , and if the “best and brightest” ever found a way to wean off the neuroleptics, you’d see an anti- psychiatry movement like no other . I can’t help but to be so pissed off . How could not psychiatry have drowned in the river of tears , misery , and death it has caused ? and continues to cause ?

  • Cognitive dis……… Doctor , I would tell you to try some Paxil for a couple of months and to watch what it does to you from the inside out, but it would be a threat to your life for me to advise you in that way. Just the same as it is and has been for you . Do you give anti -depressants to children to ? I think you mean well. Your problem is , not investigating much more deeply what survivors tell you and picking a profession that is a Hoax even bigger than the Spanish Inquisition .

  • Thank you Auntie Psychiatry ! I’m a big fan of yours. I’ve been putting some anti-psychiatry memes and others on Meme Generator -Imgflip (anyone can do it for free) , under the name anonymous and rebelthecartel . I hope you succeed far beyond your expectations . Maybe even , MIA could gain even more viewers if there was a special spot on the front page , a humour section for jokes , cartoons ,memes, humorous reflections ,humorous films , that might help wake up more people out there , to the true terror the psychiatry Hoax represents .

  • I’m glad it made you laugh Julie , but this heaping mound has been building for hundreds of years and I just recently realized it’s also part of the military industrial complex. It’s also part of the pseudo scientific tower of babel which crosses into all areas affecting quality of life and survival of human beings .It may be the best way to toss the pile is through actively joining the Movement for Health Freedom and making sure that within their guidelines are clear stipulations about the right to be free from any and all things reeking of the pile . Of course we know the pile has nothing to do with health care but this way we get to use their false words against them. Health Freedom it seems, do to prevailing propaganda might be the fastest way to get the most people the option of freeing themselves from the stench. Hopefully this way there would be way more people that could show up at demonstrations . I know you’ve seen it before but many others have not. Google World HealthFreedom_Assembly.pdf ) Then open the 2006 International Declaration of Health Freedom ) Of course I take an anti -pile position at the same time .

  • “Shine on you crazy diamond ” is the title of a song by the group “Pink Floyd” .” Another brick in the wall ” is another one of their songs. It’s late and I’m too tired to find the links.

    Psychiatry is such an exasperating pile of shit .

  • Thanks Eric for coming back and writing. Thanks to other commenters also.
    I wonder how many other people out there who have heard mostly unwanted voices ,seemingly coming from outside themselves for decades with little reprieve , for me over 30 years , have successfully figured out for themselves, through their own explorations with crucial info from others or not , how to no longer hear voices? ( and also finally free from the pharma industrial complex and their “products” for 5 or 10 years or more) Certainly they have traveled mostly alone through uncharted territory. It would be interesting to see these stories compiled .
    The voices I heard would most always soon speed up so fast and soften in volume so I was left trying to make sense of , fill in words , and try to guess what they were saying to me .Really annoying .I thought someone else was trying to communicate with me or I was hearing other people’s thoughts as if I wasn’t insulated from others . Also had serious trouble trying to sleep for most of my life .Of course I had” mi vida loca time” with the psych complex and their “products” including electricity.
    Here’s the short version .(I’m sure there can be various causes or combinations of causes for unwanted hearing of voices and variations in how the voices manifest) I used my disability income plus intermittent work to fund my search out of my discomfort. It took decades of experiments with” first do no harm as a guideline “. Ultimately I got family financial help for my last experiment which absolutely dramatically worked. Went to an advanced dentist trained by Hal Huggins, had 15 mercury fillings removed , 2 root canals removed , was checked for cavitations . Finally ended with one tooth in my mouth ,a right upper back molar that was filled with a composite . The advanced protocol dentist said the panoramic x-ray showed it was just fine . I was afraid to tell anyone even the dentist . I was now hearing gonging sounds in my right ear and head like when a martial arts movie on TV sometimes begins or ends. This was happening even when I went into the woods with only wilderness around . I knew the sound was coming from inside me. I asked the dentist” would you remove that last molar for me ?” He said ,” There’s nothing wrong with it , but you don’t really need it , if you want i’ll remove it for you “.I said ” yes I want it out “. To his surprise and mine after he removed the tooth he said that directly under the tooth was a big pocket of pus . He said he was surprised that the panoramic x-ray did not pick up the infection under the tooth . He scrapped it out using advanced protocol. I have well fitting false plastic dentures now . I couldn’t afford cubic zirconia posts with high tech inert ceramic teeth as is done at the Paracelsus Klinic in Switzerland supervised by Dr. Rau. This final adventure in survival cost $6000. Now no voices , no gongs . I am still sensitive to low frequency sounds from outside myself ,like from near by power lines ,and handle that with white noise like from a fan . Probably caused by 15 electro shocks forced on me when I was a teenager .
    I believe that it’s the realization of a dream , ” Sweet are the thoughts that savor of content , the quiet mind is richer than a crown . ” Even at the age of 70 . And no sleep trouble anymore.
    By the way Chris Shade PHD and founder of Quicksilver Scientific who himself had 17 mercury fillings ( size does matter) says that 1 in 15 people can’t excrete mercury from their body.It does get into the brain . 200,000,000 people in the USA have so called silver amalgams in their mouths . Actually they are 53% mercury. Do the math and remember the rest of the billions of people on the planet. And don’t forget mercury concentrating in some species of fish, coal burning releasing mercury and other industries ,and our “old favorite” the medical profession injecting poison concoctions plus aluminum and mercury compounds straight into the bloodstream of even infants. That’s a small piece of my take.
    I feel like Columbo the tv detective . Anyway I noticed quite a time ago in me that the inner throat ever slightly moves whenever thoughts or voices occur and mentally stopping the movement can stop thought or the voice for as long as you give it attention so a break from the action can be got. Take care all.

  • The big hoax must promise a growing bag of gold as a carrot for all that get involved and needs people with titles to provide the veneer to fool the majority of themselves and then the population, then it grows along with their true belief like a snowball that doesn’t seem like it could ever melt. The AMA is from it’s inception such a hoax . (Read if you wish the book “Sick And Tired” by Robert Young ) So is ADA dentistry (who would dare put mercury in even children’s mouths ,when mercury is the 2nd most deadly element on periodic table ? ) There is much precedent for the psychiatry hoax and for the power of the pharma poison cartel . Just look to history that became available to the public after 2003 concerning the horrific IG Farben , the chemical and pharmaceutical industry conglomerate . Can’t make the link to the info work . If you could google to this you’ll see something interesting .
    The Laws of the Pharmaceutical…The Dr. Rath Health Foundation

  • I guess we are lucky to live under the rule of law , where we even have the right in a limited way depending on our finances to be heard verbally, or by the written word to oppose or criticize, and turn the other cheek , while authorized others can actually actively physically do abominable stuff to other people legally.
    In a world where at the same time undertakers legally embalm dead people for profit , injecting into them poison substances .
    Psychiatrists wearing the costume of health care , can legally semi- embalm / embalm live people, even children for profit , forcefully injecting poison substances and/or legally apply high voltage directly to the human brain of a live human being. Can legally lie to , label , and torture to their heart’s content . And are on the verge of expanding “their rights” to send teams to knock on people’s doors into right’s to enter people’s homes at will to enforce compliance .( maybe they won’t be financed to do it )
    All under the watchful eye and recommendations of clone IG Farben chemical ,pharmaceutical / biological /chemical , heavy metal, mix and match poison manufacturing cartels. All while they also attack the food supply , natural nutrients, and natural herbs. Very peculiar.

  • Yes indeed , let’s have this this discussion . Read the following article from the Dragon Slayer’s recommended website, and let’s see if anyone that’s fully read it can tell us all with a straight face that psychiatry should not be absolutely abolished as quickly as humanly possible and placed into the dung heap area of the dustbin of history. (This article which IMHO out of lived experience since 1963 , actually understates the actual torture and terror which psychiatry embodies and should be defined by.)
    Why Psychiatry Is Evil by Wayne Ramsay
    http://www.wayneramsay.com
    Second to the last title in the contents list is the article ” Why Psychiatry Is Evil” by Wayne Ramsay
    Couldn’t hurt to read all his articles .

  • Thank you Bonnie and All
    We who can are privileged to be able to join this battle against oppression . ” The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.”__ George Orwell
    Sadly society has drifted so deep into pseudo science in so many area’s even wearing a hazmat suit , full time is little protection from the effects of the mythology . You got to bop and weave side step and moonwalk sometimes even look like a compliant and quickly slip away. Most likely got to BS your own family or they’ll put you in harm’s way.When victims lived experience is painted as doubtful and lies for profit are the science of the day. And the more drug toxins , electricity , smart technology pollution ,” modern medicine”, or simply payoffs , the less the attention span . Skepticism without any inclination or energy or time or even ability anymore to investigate is all too common. Many even partial solutions are even too expensive for most .
    The best answers i’ve seen include get away from psychiatry by weening off or stay away if not yet caught . MIA a great place to search . The website suggested above by Slaying_the_Dragon_of_Psychiatry is
    a remarkable resource easily useful , when you start exploring it for understanding the truth about psychiatry and even a springboard for figuring out creative ways to Slay it as best as possibly we can . There is even permission to accurately reprint from the site if credit is given .
    https://psychiatricsurvivors.wordpress.com/2016/05/10/the-truth-about-psychiatry/

  • Actually if a Middle Path between forcing neuroleptics and/or electric shock on the youngest of children , every other age group, including seniors in nursing homes , and psychiatry not existing at all …. Considering the damage psychiatry is and it’s continuing growth and power ….the Middle Path as solution might be , to tar and feather psychiatrists and run them out of town . Not that I’m advocating that ( I wouldn’t want to be banned), just trying to answer the question theoretically and accurately what a middle path might look like that would provide a possible faster solution to psychiatric abuse (a tautology).
    I do agree with antipsychiatry . I was mercury poisoned by dentistry but forcibly put under psychiatrists control for decades as their idea of a solution . Torture cloaked as healthcare is not a solution . All things considered oldhead’s statement concerning the middle path, I totally agree with.

  • Thank you AuntiePsychiatry the links you provided above reveal much and clarify what Lieberman and his followers are trying to do to the people .
    It seems obvious that Psychiatry’s leadership to gain total compliance to itself is looking to try and still establish within the minds of the population on top of Psychiatry’s “chemical imbalance ” HOAX an additional powerful HOAX this time with co-operating neurological departments , ( using their “new improved scanning image reading machines ” then the co-operating neurologists will make referrals to psychiatrists explaining variations in sizes of various parts of the brain (“as surely the undeniable physical evidence of “mental illness” requiring “psychiatric doctor care and treatments” . All the while the pharma toxic drugs prescriptions and applied high voltage electricity, are the huge factors in brain shrinking. Does it get even more diabolical ? Shouldn’t we put Much More Emphasis on the evidence of Organized Crime and Torture Against Human Beings, while posing as health care, that this is ? Or what else ?

  • The psychiatrist : A fixture of society a picture in plain clothes a modern day brave new world gestapo officer making rapid selections in broad daylight . Only those that have felt the outrageous effects of their “treatments” and tried to speak to them about what was certainly a well meaning error and then watch them double and triple down on the “treatments”, understand the terror that psychiatry represents and the diabolical toxic formulations of the pharmaceutical cartels and the terror they create . Just how far will gestapo pharma double and triple down on in its development of poison concoctions and is there a limit to their behind close door terrorism , cloaked as health giving medicines . And all this and more protected and encouraged by a fascist state . Certainly most all of us could say much more .

  • Julie, I just recently came upon that set of ideas on Health Freedom and see how much it pertains to what so many of us believe . I think it would be great if MIA had you blogging here if you felt like it . I always enjoy reading your comments , it would really be something if a transcript or video of your presentation could appear here at MIA as well .Thank You .

  • Antipsychiatry the 1-2 punch plus the # 3 punch possibly, collaboration with and/ or endorsement of the principles within The International Declaration on Health Freedom written in 2006 at The World Health Freedom Assembly. This might create more elbow room for freedom and increase the number of real allies we have in the sense of larger actual numbers of people showing up for demonstrations if they are called for . Below I’ll leave a link to the Organization and the place where the declaration is printed out. What do you all think ?

  • I just read Ron’s article and all the comments . Ron’s article was a good anvil to bounce numerous insightful comments off of . Overlooked is the real probability of Eugenic Substance Production ( POISONS) being passed off as some kind of medicine by the pharma cartels and definitely not limited to psychiatric drugs and extending into wherever they traffic . Those that have not actually been forced to repeatedly take poisons like thorazine and others are unlikely to understand what I’m talking about . THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT ON WHAT BIG PHARMA IS DOING BEHIND THEIR CLOSED DOORS OR ON WHAT EVEN MORE DIABOLICAL SUBSTANCES THEY WILL INVENT IN THE FUTURE .
    Ron want’s to know if there is a place for psychiatry . Yes Ron there is , IN THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW CHEMICAL AND ELECTRIC NAZIISM CAN RUN RAMPANT IF PEOPLE DO NOT CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER .

  • Thank you Tina for this important article . These are vital issues ,to reclaim autonomy and power with regard to our own health , and to be able to access and afford if we choose or not , help or info from anywhere or anyone irregardless of their title or what they call their discipline. If some are worried about regulating questionable procedures and substances , first actually regulate the pharma cartel, the AMA, mainstream dentistry, and psychiatry and outlaw whatever and all they do that is outright quackery and human life endangering , which is certainly the great majority of their endeavors .There is already a Health Freedom movement but your ideas build on it and are very important . Robert Young’s book ” Sick and Tired” also offers a way forward and some clarity .
    When the wealthiest robber barons using the cartels they control to promote and pursue their fondest dream of unilaterally lowering by billions the human population of the earth while making a profit at it, it is a revolutionary act to try and stay alive and maintain some level of health well being , when even the air , water , and food are being willfully adulterated.

  • As someone who experienced hypersensitivity for much of my life, I must say I agree it is a two edged sword . I am still very sensitive to low frequency electrical and machinery hums and always sleep with a white noise machine in the room . At home I use fans and air filters to circulate and clean air, as well as for their action as white noise machines . I’ve noticed that many times other people are not bothered or don’t even hear the low frequency sounds that i cannot tolerate. For many years I used wax earplugs which didn’t always work . Besides for decades I heard voices ( which were annoying to me) I eventually realized were being generated from inside me . Haloperidol and too rapid withdrawal from it almost cost me my life.
    I’ve learned so much on this journey of personal experimentation to get out from under intolerable phenomena . Here’s what helped me the most : The money which became available to remove all metal from my mouth , all traces of root canals , and was checked for cavitations. I had 15 amalgam’s of various sizes in my mouth ( which are composed of 53% mercury) . I was a new person , falling asleep was no longer a problem , no more voices , super sensitivity subsided except for low frequency sound sensitivity which was reduced . I attribute that to damage caused by 15 electro- shock treatments forced on me in my youth. Also helpful was understanding the underlying truths of Traditional Naturopathy , Homeopathy , and learning the energy healing system Yuen Method . Before the fillings were removed when things got bad I had to invent an improved mineral bath therapy for extreme states which was to take about 1500 mg.of Niacin ( not the non-flushing ) and once the redness appeared to enter a mineral bath filled hot water bath. Rubbing skin down with a foot long luffa which wonderfully soothed the itching . Even during an on coming extreme state this bath enabled sleep and could help one regain equilibrium.I used BathTherapy brand mineral bath which had lithium and other minerals in it (not the original), although now I believe there are even better more pure mineral bath mixtures that have lithium and other minerals available in them, that can be found online in bulk quantities . I used this type of bath as needed . Eventually I moved near a national recreation area so I could easily access outdoor wilderness area’s every day .