Tuesday, November 19, 2019

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  • Hi Out, I don’t think Dr B meant to infer we are deficient in love ( I don’t think this was an all or nothing statement ie we could not give or receive love full stop), I can see how his words could be interpreted that way but I have re read the article a few times..I am dyslexic.. I realised he is also writing for therapists and clinicians, he notes the success of clinicians lies in helping peeps to learn to give a receive love (ie provide us with tools help us see where our past experiences have caused us to put up protective barriers ) I know I struggled with trying to muster up the feeling of love for others the world etc (especially when feeling depressed) I found this bit of advice from a girl at my mindfulness group very good – she had been at Thich Nhat Hahn’s – Plum Village – on retreat and could not find it in herself to do the Meta loving kindness mediation for others the the world..then eventually someone you dislike etc. She discussed this with one of the Buddhist Nuns there ( who are also qualified psychologists) the nun told her when she went home to do the meta mediation everyday just sending love to herself for a year before she even tried to send love to others. I believe that where some of us are finding difficulty with this article is because of the wording and that in our wounded raw state we need to first learn to love ourselves. So in the wider sense it is about relearning how to give and receive love but most especially to ourselves…you can not give what you do not have. Hope this helps .

  • Perhaps you are both correct, Dr B I feel is saying that due to horrible life expereinces / truama / societies value system etc the sensitive peeps …us …… have unintentionally become guarded as a means of protection – once bitten etc …so we have forgotten how to give and receive love in the first instance towards ourselves (if you believe you have no problem in this area go to the mirror and look yourself in the eye and tell yourself how much you love yourself…not in an egoistic way but in the way you would yourself as a baby or someone you love and see what comes up emotionally .)…And that our society does seem to reward the selfish, the greedy, but it all depends on what one considers success – I bet no one reading this wants to be Mr Trump….and after listening to Dr Gabor Mate and Russel Brand’ s interview on Mr Trump – I think what a unloving upbringing he had. Is Trump Acting Out His Childhood Trauma? Russell Brand & Dr …
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQwP0XRBjq4
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    Today’s video features Dr. Gabor Maté a renowned expert in addiction … Under The Skin episode here: https …

  • All emotions all natural and valid, but I feel there can be disorders especially if we get stuck in a particular emotional state that robs us of our ability to process and find joy in life. In our western culture we are not taught how to allow our emotions (in fact we are encouraged to suppress them) to move through us and trauma becomes “stuck” in our bodies, there are many ways we can relearn how to What is TRE (Trauma Release Exercises)? | ACEsConnection
    https://www.acesconnection.com/blog/what-is-trauma-release-exercises-tre
    30 Oct 2017 – That’s why humans have trauma and wild animals usually don’t: old … I accessed this discharge shaking doing Levine’s CD exercises (the book …

  • I don’t think Dr B was validating the terms I think he was using the typical medical jargon and i do think love has it’s place to play …it’s semantics …and what we imagine is meant by “love” (I too am uncomfortable by the word and decided to examine my feelings around that..see below Dr Gabor Mate ref’ )………….Compassion: what it is and why it matters in medicine | World …
    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/compassion/
    27 Mar 2017 – It’s compassion, or better still, compassionate doctors. … Merely taking the time to talk and listen to patients is comforting, as is a doctor’s touch. … on how to improve medical training, given the positive results of the researches; …

  • I am on a long (11 plus years) and difficult journey, with many dark nights, but I have learned a lot, especially about paradoxes (everyones point of view here are relevant and equal each person’s current truth and are not to be denied) and paradigm shifts. Many of you going through your psych’ “journeys” are, as I am, allowing ourselves to evolve towards greater self mastery / and calling back our power (in the shamanic sense) of the lost parts of your souls but most importantly to afford us a greater understanding of ourselves and understanding of what each of us loves, to learn to go within and to encourage us to love ourselves (before we try to love others – “Love yourself. Then forget it.
    Then, love the world.”
    ― Mary Oliver, Evidence: Poems) exactly as we are, wounded, vulnerable, etc. We are also finding our way back to the wonder and mystery of life / nature. Our world is going through a great shift which all of the indigenous peoples predicted would occur, we are learning to let go of what does not serve us individually(and as a species) as part of that process. We are learning to step into our power and tap into our creativity…see below for some further explanations and information. Science and non duality is a good site, I know it is difficult to shift from the linear left brain idea of right and wrong and good and bad and to an extent whilst here on the earth we need to be part of the revolution and push for change but if any of us get caught in the anger and hatred then we only end up suffering more…so get that shit out …dance ..shake..scream…paint ..whatever…….move the stuck energy out of ya…
    “Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing
    and rightdoing there is a field.
    I’ll meet you there.
    When the soul lies down in that grass
    the world is too full to talk about.”
    Rumi

    That is why the language of the heart is so important.

    Gregg Braden shared his stories of traveling to Tibet and living there for almost a month and visiting over 12 monasteries and nunneries. He was in a conversation with an Abbot of one of the monasteries. He asked the Abbot a question and waited for his response — what is the stuff that holds everything together the force that holds everything together—The response was “compassion”. Gregg was so surprised that he thought it was a mistranslation, so he asked him again, the answer, again compassion.
    The abbot said compassion is the experiences in our bodies and it is the force that holds everything in the universe together.
    Gregg thought it was beautiful that this man sitting 17,000 above sea level, in a cold wet monastery, sitting on a stone slab could have such an answer. Gregg was enlightened to understand what key these people have been able to hold onto for thousands of years.
    COMPASSION Compassionate Inquiry with Gabor Maté – YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6_Gqkg-JnU
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    Is the Soul Obsolete? | Scientific and Medical Network
    https://explore.scimednet.org/…/is-the-soul-obsolete-video-presentation-by-larry-dossey/
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    Dying to be me! Anita Moorjani at TEDxBayArea – YouTube
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    “You must not ever stop being whimsical. And you must not, ever, give anyone else the responsibility for your life.”
    ― Mary Oliver, Wild Geese “Keep some room in your heart for the unimaginable.”
    ― Mary Oliver “Hello, sun in my face. Hello you who made the morning and spread it over the fields…Watch, now, how I start the day in happiness, in kindness.”
    ― Mary Oliver “Tell me,
    what is it you plan to do
    with your one
    wild and precious life?”
    ― Mary Oliver “I believe in kindness. Also in mischief. Also in singing, especially when singing is not necessarily prescribed.”
    ― Mary Oliver The Shamanic View Of The World by Christa MacKinnon – HealYourLife
    https://www.healyourlife.com/the-shamanic-view-of-the-world
    24 May 2016 – The traditional shamanic world-view, which is shared by … from different planes of consciousness, shamans perceive the universe in the form of …
    I hope this information helps and provides food for thought……….Namaste…which means the god in me recognises the god in you ………interchange god with whatever word suits you 🙂