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  • I recommend that any parent or other person dealing with children should read the following post from parents grieving over the death of their young son due to a heart attack from Ritalin for so called “ADHD” drugs. This story is eerily all too familiar:

    http://www.ritalindeath.com/

    I highly recommend the entire web site with updates from other sources for a wakeup call about the dangers of not only “ADHD,” but all of biopsychiatry’s voted in by consensus with no evidence labels and fables to push the latest lethal drugs on patent.

    Dr. Breggin is one of the first heroes to warn parents and others about such frequent tragedies perpetrated by the new biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel in the 1990’s when the bogus brain disease or chemical imbalance fictions were promoted with no evidence to improve psychiatry’s image and income as supposed real doctors doling out “medications” while helping Big Pharma make billions at the cost of many lives with the more recent victims our precious children. Dr. Breggin provides a real wakeup call in all of his books, but Reclaiming Our Children is one of the best in terms of urging adults to stop blaming their own and society’s problems on our vulnerable children who are the weakest and most powerless members of society forced to put their trust in us.

  • B,

    I just went through Tyler’s “story” again and to be honest, I think the format is very off putting and frustrating. It would take a great deal of time that I don’t have at the moment to plow through every comic presenting supposed brain malfunctions purported to be the cause of “ADHD” by the so called experts with most complicit with Big Pharma and others probably duped by main stream brainwashing. So, that was a major turnoff for me.

    I did examine the pages more completely and it still is difficult for me to understand what Tyler is really trying to do there in that he provides citations for both main stream and critical views including Robert Whitaker and Dr. Peter Breggin.

    However, Tyler does say in his post at MIA that he believes in his supposed carefully done “ADHD” diagnosis and he had a great life taking “ADHD” drugs for at least eight years. Thus, he proclaims himself a great success story with his treatment for “ADHD.” Thus, I would say he falls on the side of the main stream view of “ADHD.” He says his parents didn’t use that label with him at first.

    Anyway, if you read my posts, you will see that I prefer to trust the real experts like Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, and real brain expert exposing the history behind the voted in by consensus “ADHD” label to push the lethal amphetamine drugs on our children and a literally brainwashed in toxic chemicals public and psychiatrists in bed with Big Pharma to make billions at the cost of countless destroyed lives. Dr. Breggin, a renowned expert, has similar views on “ADHD” and other DSM junk science expressed in this post, his many books, articles, web sites and educational conferences.

    I will give Tyler credit for presenting the views of critics of ADHD, but his overall stance seems to be that ADHD is a real brain disorder best treated with kiddie cocaine for those like him with supposed “ADHD.” As others like Steve McCrea have indicated here, I don’t deny that these children and others have certain life, medical, diet, sleep or other problems that could result in various symptoms fraudulently labeled as ADHD to push dangerous but very profitable drugs. There are other ways to help these children with excellent books and other media on the topic.

    Thus, I appreciate your pointing out that I may not have given Tyler enough credit for presenting opposing views, but when all is said and done, he is a firm advocate for the “ADHD” label and drugging of those labeled with so called “ADHD” drugs. Moreover, I think it is hard to get past all those very wordy comics expounding on various brain disorders and differences behind the “ADHD” stigma that don’t have a shred of real science or other evidence behind them.

    Otherwise, I guess I would have to ask you, “What is your point?”

  • Hi Someone Else,

    Thank you for your validation of my reality. It’s late, but I did find an excellent article by Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, that does point out the different functions of psychiatry and neurology, but then, he goes on to show the total corruption and fraud behind the ADHD epidemic he exposes and shows he has fought tooth and nail as you can see the article below on this great web site. He provides the whole history of ADHD and when he mentions CHADD one should bare in mind that CHADD is a well known Big Pharma front group.

    http://www.ritalindeath.com/adhd.htm

    Dr. Baughman does lament elsewhere that despite the previous distinction between neurology and psychiatry with the former dealing with real organic brain diseases like Alzheimer’s and psychiatry dealing with problems in living that were not organic or brain diseases, neurology has now sold out to the lucrative DSM/Big Pharma cartel toxic stigmatizing and drugging of citizens and most tragically, our children. Main stream general practitioners have also sold out to this dangerous agenda with psychiatry advocating for so called “collaborative care” with them whereby nobody will want to dare go for a physical because they risk being subjected to bogus DSM stigmas and toxic drugs that will destroy their lives in every way.

    Anyway, if you google Dr. Fred Baughman, you will find tons of articles, information, letters he sent to many people in power to protest this fraud and his book, ADHD Fraud and his web site of the same name.

    I agree with your comments too as I am sure Dr. Baughman would also. I really admire his huge efforts to expose this dangerous fraud as has Dr. Breggin, but who can compete with Big Pharma billions enforced by our great government since they all rely on Big Pharma money to get elected and stay in power not to mention getting rich in office.

    I had to answer you here because there were no reply buttons under your comments. I highly recommend Dr. Baughman’s enlightening information on the web and elsewhere.

    Thanks for your comments.

  • Steve,

    Did you look at Tyler’s web site that he claims is his story?

    It looks more to me like a Big Pharma infomercial bringing back to mind recent debates on several recent blogs on ADHD at MIA. This is misleading information to give people the very wrong impression that there is evidence that those labeled with ADHD have real brain disorders/diseases due to various proven brain impairments, faulty wiring or differences that are helped by dangerous amphetamines, which are totally unproven. The history of these dangerous drugs serve as a warning that they should never have been introduced to children in the first place given that women who used them for weight loss and became addicted and ill caused them to be taken off the market for that purpose. The fact they were reintroduced for children for so called ADHD for behavior control and now so called “binge eating disorder” voted into the DSM 5 with no evidence shows that the U.S. and other countries who sold out our children and humanity at large to Big Pharma have lost their moral compass. That is the view of Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, and author of the book and web site, ADHD Fraud, and countless articles exposing that this stigmatizing and drugging of children and others are the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity. Many other experts like Dr. Breggin share this view.

    In fact, as you know, Dr. Thomas Insel, Director of the National Institute for Mental Health, has been forced to admit recently on his blog that there is not a shred of scientific, biological, genetic, medical or any other evidence for most of the DSM labels like ADHD, bipolar, schizophrenia, depression and many other very lucrative voted in “disorders.” The DSM does include a few real brain diseases like Alzheimer’s psychiatry stole from neurology for the DSM though the whole distinction between psychiatry and neurology when they broke into 2 entities is that psychiatry would handle life problems that did not involve brain diseases while neurology would handle real brain diseases like dementia as explained by Dr. Baughman on the web. Thus, Dr. Insel lamented the total lack of validity for all the DSM labels voted in by consensus with no biological or other evidence like ADHD, bipolar, depression and 300+ others with no genetic, biological, brain wiring, chemical imbalances or other science behind them in the first place. DSM committees led by Dr. Robert Spitzer, editor of DSM III onward to the present DSM 5 admitted there was no science behind the DSM while making the dubious claim such evidence would be found in the future. After many decades, no such biological evidence has been found, but the real life problems, crises, losses, abuse, trauma and other emotional distress caused by toxic social and environmental stressors are not only unacknowledged by DSM stigmas, but rather, covered up by them to blame the victims for growing global inequality, poverty, injustice, oppression, sexism, racism, pollution, climate change, junk food, toxic chemicals and many other isms corporate cronyism would prefer to stigmatize as “mental illness” to profit from the suffering they inflict on humanity as well, which can rightly be called psychopathic and narcissistic.

    The good news is that Dr. Breggin exposed these damaging myths in his life saving books like Toxic Psychiatry, Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed., Talking Back to Ritalin, Reclaiming Our Children and countless others from the 1990’s when psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma and the DSM was expanded exponentially to push the latest lethal drugs on patent to make billions globally while destroying countless lives. I highly recommend all of Dr. Breggin’s enlightening books for which I will always be very grateful. Dr. Breggin heroically fought this menace alone in the early 1990’s to the present at great cost and it has only been recently that others in the profession have been forced to admit the emperor is wearing no clothes with the biopsychiatry brain mythology used to manipulate a brain washed public. I am very happy Dr. Breggin lived to see the day when he would not only be totally validated and vindicated, but also, a cherished hero of the survivor movement. He is also greatly respected by many real professionals in the “mental health” system.

    Dr. Breggin does a great job debunking the voted in by consensus ADHD stigma to push the dangerous kiddie cocaine on millions of children for huge profits here, in his many books on the topic, his web sites and educational conferences. He also documents all the horrible side effects of these toxic drugs doled out for so called ADHD and how they harm children in untold ways including the over focus on certain things while their ability to socialize is all but destroyed. And as you say, the literally deadly “side effects,” which are the only effects for the most part, are well documented with many children literally dying from these drugs. There are whole web sites about these ADHD drug induced deaths too.

    Many studies even covered by Consumer Reports have acknowledged that despite a short term seeming improvement on the ability to focus and appear better to those adults who stigmatized them, children given the ADHD label to justify “treating” them with kiddie cocaine show no improvement overall after about 2 to 3 years. And as you say, due to the toxic effects of drugs used for “ADHD,” these children’s very negative side effects are then stigmatized with the latest fad diagnosis bipolar to justify an even more lethal cocktail or heavy duty, dangerous drugs including neuroleptics and so called mood stabilizers as you say.

    It is no accident that Dr. Joseph Biederman first almost single handedly worked for drug companies to create the ADHD child epidemic only to go on to invent the even greater drug company sponsored bipolar child epidemic after they were exposed to the gateway ADHD and SSRI drugs. Bob Whitaker exposes this travesty in his books, articles and talks with other experts.

    As for the claims of these toxic drugs supposedly being so helpful, Dr. Breggin uses the term, “spellbinding” for those on toxic psychiatric drugs who think they are doing great and claim to be much improved when in reality, they are doing much worse, alienating people, losing their moral compass, becoming apathetic and even acting out in bizarre ways that can destroy their lives as documented by Dr. Breggin in his books including Medication Madness.

    Finally, Steve, I would appreciate it if you would check out Tyler’s web site he promoted in his comment and share your typical well informed views on what you think of its veracity and other factors based on your excellent credentials. I would welcome your thoughts on this.

    Thank you.

    Donna

  • Since there wasn’t an immediate reply button, I’m copying Juliana’s great, wise comment here and seconding her praise for the calm, intelligent, very well informed, compassionate and always sensible voice of Steve McCrea who has spent a great deal of time here debunking the toxic ADHD stigmatizing and drugging of our nation’s children since psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s, which is all too well documented in Robert Whitaker’s books like Anatomy of an Epidemic, Dr. Peter Breggin’s books like Toxic Psychiatry, Dr. Fred Baughman’s ADHD Fraud and all too many others. Thank you Steve.

    juliana
    on February 25, 2015 at 1:13 am said:

    Hello Steve,

    I just wanted to sincerely thank you for your great insights and positive educational promotion regarding this issue. In my daily job, unfortunately I see this “ugly phenomenon” occurring often, as a quick “solution” to parent’s complaints regarding their children’s odd behaviour. Parents complain that their 3 year old child asks many questions, or that they are running, jumping, laughing, talking all the time. I even had 1 parent that had put her child on a stimulant, diagnosed with ADHD because this 12 year old boy would touch himself in his sleep. ( I always thought that is a normal thing to happen for a boy that age, out of his control)
    As a mother (of a 3 year old wonderful daughter) and healthcare professional, I always wondered…isn’t that though what a child does that brings joy into our boring trouble some adult life? – Asking a lot, talking, running, playing, jumping all over, never sitting still, expressing their boredom when put on a classroom with 50 other kids being asked to do and follow the exact same rules, learn exact same things as the others, like they are some kind of sheep…:( It saddens me to have to watch our children being labelled with a mental disorder, have them act and learn things we (adults) decide they should learn (not yet realising that the most de-humanizing mistakes are made by adults and not children) ultimately become the reason why our children are losing their individuality! And not to mention the children who have suffered trauma in their life, and instead of spending time in understanding their pain we have it easier to give them drugs.

    I apologize if my comment has even the slightest meaning of insult to anyone. I only meant to thank you, especially Dr. Corrigan for this article and his work.

    Thank you 🙂

  • Just to clarify again, “real experts” are just that in they act in a scientific, experimental manner seeking answers to important questions and are agnostic about the results.

    Fake experts, on the other hand, are like the majority in biological psychiatry whose real agenda is to protect their own guild interests and ideology with no science or evidence whatever with Big Pharma’s regardless of the harm to their many victims they pretend to be helping when they are only harming in the guise of mental health to make billions for Big Pharma and cohorts, and aiding and abetting the increasing social control and theft of human freedoms and rights of our Therapeutic Fascist States pretending to be democracies.

    So, there is a real difference between real and fake experts that can be life threatening if one doesn’t know the difference, which is why so many MIA members have done their homework for sure. Since you asked, I am happy to clarify just what I mean by “real experts” as opposed to those just pretending to be such like those doing the bulk of fraudulent biopsychiatry/Big Pharma ghost written, junk science, bought off “studies,” “drug trials,” and other tasks while hiding any negative or life threatening results that could threaten profits and Pharma payments, perks to psychiatrists, government and others involved. Big Pharma has had to pay billions in fines for such fakery of psychiatry when it creates new stigmas to push the latest toxic drugs, ECT and other brain damaging, useless “treatments” while doing all in their power to cover up those lethal effects and the fact the “treatments” don’t work, but make things much worse as exposed in Bob Whitaker’s books and articles. But, obviously, our government knows this, so they obviously have a different agenda than the health of the victims they prey on with biopsychiatry as those in Nazi Germany found out too late when psychiatry gassed to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill” as practice for their huge role in the Holocaust they instigated with their never ending bogus, cruel eugenics/euthanasia agenda in league with past and present robber barons to justify the theft of most global wealth while enslaving the majority or typical psychopathic agenda of the 1% versus the 99%.

    Or perhaps they may not be fake experts after all since they are so successful at their role of wolves in sheep’s clothing plotting others’ destruction for greed, power and sadism typical of psychopaths per world authority/expert Dr. Robert Hare who created the psychopathic test, the PCL-R and consults for the FBI. I guess it depends on how you look at it in that they are only fake experts when they speak of any real brain damage, disorder, disease or faked evidence regarding junk science stigmas like ADHD and bipolar while they are experts at Big Pharma/biopsychaitry spin to pull the wool over people’s eyes regarding psychiatric pseudoscience.

    Are you saying that Dr. Thomas Insel, Director of the National Institute of Mental Health, was/is not a real expert when he exposed the DSM and with it ADHD and bipolar as lacking any validity or scientific, medical evidence whatsoever despite the fact that the NIMH and Surgeon Generals have been singing the opposite tune for decades and knowingly committing total fraud against the American public as Dr. Fred Baughman and others have rightly accused them of doing? Of course, Dr. Insel just wants to change the same old tired ideology to something new with the same pernicious purposes to attract Big Pharma back to psychiatry’s previous lucrative fold now that the drug pipeline is drying up as Big Pharma has been dumping psychiatry in droves due to its now tarnished image and its own admission that psychiatry lacks the science to pursue new, applicable treatments.

    So, feel free to continue to try to obfuscate the above while your own ADHD and bipolar ideology with no evidence to back it up is all too clear.

  • Amen B!

    I suppose the comment from “a Dad” was supposed to be scientific evidence of that poor kid being destroyed by the bogus bipolar stigma and toxic neuroleptic drugs getting great treatment. The “Dad” like the kid’s “doctors” should be in jail if we had a government and society with any conscience, but sadly psychopaths and their sycophants have hijacked the globe.

  • Again, Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist and author of ADHD FRAUD, has shone the light on this vile topic and exposed that not only is ADHD a total fraud, but also, every one of psychiatry’s voted in by consensus junk science DSM stigmas created in the 1980’s when psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma as Dr. Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist, describes in books like Toxic Psychiatry, Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed., Talking Back to Ritalin, Reclaiming Our Children as well as Bob Whitaker’s books Mad in America and Anatomy of an Epidemic. Of course, there are now countless books and articles available exposing the junk science of the invented ADHD bogus stigma to push kiddie cocaine just like the child bipolar fad fraud was created to push more lethal neuroleptics on children.

    And if you are not aware that studies have shown that ADHD drugs provide no real benefit and only make things much worse for those really suffering from life problems, abusive environments, bullying, poverty and other social stressors for the most part then it would seem that you have your own reasons for wanting to promote this ever increasing assault on our nation’s children and society in general.

  • As far as the junk science, invented, voted in ADHD life destroying stigma to push the vile kiddie cocaine drugs to a make a literal killing by biopsychiatry when it sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s, I will trust Dr. Fred Baughman, lifelong Child Neurologist, and author of ADHD Fraud any day of the week when he speaks of such psychiatric fraud as the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity. We can thank Dr. Joseph Biederman for such crimes against children when he personally sold out the nation’s children to the drug companies he was truly serving when he almost single handedly created both the ADHD and bipolar epidemics in children just like DSM III and IV perpetrators created the adult bipolar epidemic in adults and now the DSM V perpetrators are pushing for adult ADHD. This Dr. Mengele like psychiatric monstrosity never ends. And ADHD drugs are now being promoted for the brand new DSM bogus stigma of “binge eating disorder” with an article about it posted in the news section of MIA with many upset because these toxic drugs put people at risk for heart attacks and other lethal effects with children far from immune as many children have died from these dangerous drugs.

    And the real experts have exposed that any supposed differences in the brains of so called ADHD and normal kids are due to the toxic drugs given to those stuck with a junk science ADHD stigma due to abusive families, bullies and other social stressors and certainly not any faulty brains. Diet may be a factor especially today, but the current model is always blame the victims for any lethal effects inflicted by the current robber barons of our time, the real “patients” of psychiatry today as was the case with the robber barons of the 1930’s who along with psychiatry created the eugenics theories that led to the Nazi Holocaust after psychiatrists practiced by gassing to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill.” Today, they just drug and shock children and adults to early death by about 25 years after torturing and profiting from them during their greatly shortened lives thanks to the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    And Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has admitted recently that all DSM junk science stigmas that would include ADHD, bipolar and other recent voted in fad frauds of psychiatry are totally INVALID and lacking any science, medical or other evidence whatsoever.

    Thus, I think that despite blakeacake’s attempts to “educate” MIA members about all the great science behind the bogus invented ADHD stigma created to push amphetamines on innocent children that have been proven to cause much harm and little help or positive results after about three years and often ending up with an even worse bipolar assault due to the lethal effects of the kiddie cocaine pretense of help, MIA members and many others are all too well informed about the total junk science behind ADHD, bipolar and any other life destroying degradation rituals perpetrated by psychiatry/Big Pharma to force their brain disabling treatments on a literally brain washed public. But, the cat is out of the bag and more and more people are catching on thanks to all the corruption exposed in both psychiatry and Big Pharma not to mention all the destroyed, disabled lives exposed by Robert Whitaker in his many articles and books like Mad in America and Anatomy of an Epidemic.

  • How about those like Rebecca Riley, a toddler, who died thanks to Biederman’s bogus single handed invention of the child ADHD and bipolar epidemics to push the latest drug cocktails of his real clients, Big Pharma. Biederman has already gone down in infamy for creating the bipolar fad fraud epidemic for children and toddlers no less, probably in many if not most cases the iatrogenic effects of the ADHD stigma and kiddie cocaine epidemic he created just about single handedly just as he did with child bipolar.

    You must be aware that many think Biederman is very guilty of great crimes against humanity and its children especially since he sold them out for personal self aggrandizement and millions of drug company money to the point that reporters were shocked when he was on the stand in the courtroom and compared himself with God, typical of psychiatry. Even many drug pushing psychiatrists felt Biederman had gone too far with the child bipolar epidemic while many feel the same about the child ADHD epidemic. Isn’t it odd that with real medicine nobody has to argue whether or not real illnesses or diseases exist within their own profession? With no evidence other than being voted in by consensus and no tests to prove anyone has these voted in junk science DSM stigmas, psychiatrists can argue all day over their fictitious disorders they mostly inflict with their invalidation, disempowering lies about those suffering traumatic life events as being “mentally ill” due to their supposed bad genes or chemical imbalances rather than their toxic environments.

    And Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has been forced to admit that all DSM junk science stigmas are totally invalid because they lack any science or medical evidence behind them while their so called treatments leave much to be desired too.

    If you don’t think poisoning children’s brains based on bogus, life destroying, voted in DSM stigmas to make billions from the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel to line the pockets of corrupt politicians and others using children as fodder for greed, power and sadism, I guess there is not much else we can say here to convince you that these are horrific assaults against our nation’s children and society in general thanks to our increasingly fascist government using psychiatry to rob people of all their civil, democratic and human rights in the guise of “mental health.”

    To put children on lethal neuroleptic drugs for misbehavior is so evil and criminal, it boggles my mind. And this is not medicine in any sense of the word or even antipsychotics. They are merely major, major tranquillizers intended to disable one’s brain, feelings, creativity, sex life, health and life in general to make them poisoned, obese zombies with miserable destroyed lives often with tardive dyskinesia and other horrific effects that cause early death by 25 years on average and that’s only in adults. Think what will happen to those children poisoned with psychiatric drugs and their life spans thanks to the likes of Joseph Biederman.

    I can’t believe anyone could advocate perpetrating such crimes against children in the guise of mental health to maintain such a sordid “career.”

    And though some abusive, criminal parent thought having their child a drugged zombie was an improvement while doing nothing to check out the toxic effects of these poison drugs says far more about the parent(s) than anything positive about the horrible neuroleptic drug poisons.

  • The inventor of the lobotomy was given a Nobel prize no less, but modern people see such barbaric butchery for the Dr. Mengele type of human experimentation that it is though psychiatry is doing all in its ongoing ill gotten power to bring back such barbaric practices in full force including ECT, lobotomy, magnetic “brain stimulation” and others in their arsenal to continue their chemical, electrical and surgical lobotomies that no decent, humane person could possibly condone if they fully understood the truth about such lethal treatments.

    Thus, winning a Pulitzer or Nobel prize does not make one’s science correct. And Galileo is a great example of those with the real science behind them being silenced, shunned and even jailed though he history has more than vindicated him just like those like Dr. Peter Breggin and Dr. Fred Baughman are being vindicated for exposing the 100% fraud behind the junk science DSM paradigm psychiatry created when it sold out to Big Pharma with the bogus ADHD stigma one of its many billion dollar crimes against children no less.

  • As far as the junk science, invented, voted in ADHD life destroying stigma to push the vile kiddie cocaine drugs to a make a literal killing by biopsychiatry when it sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s, I will trust Dr. Fred Baughman, lifelong Child Neurologist, and author of ADHD Fraud any day of the week when he speaks of such psychiatric fraud as the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity. We can thank Dr. Joseph Biederman for such crimes against children when he personally sold out the nation’s children to the drug companies he was truly serving when he almost single handedly created both the ADHD and bipolar epidemics in children just like DSM III and IV perpetrators created the adult bipolar epidemic in adults and now the DSM V perpetrators are pushing for adult ADHD. This Dr. Mengele like psychiatric monstrosity never ends. And ADHD drugs are now being promoted for the brand new DSM bogus stigma of “binge eating disorder” with an article about it posted in the news section of MIA with many upset because these toxic drugs put people at risk for heart attacks and other lethal effects with children far from immune as many children have died from these dangerous drugs.

    And the real experts have exposed that any supposed differences in the brains of so called ADHD and normal kids are due to the toxic drugs given to those stuck with a junk science ADHD stigma due to abusive families, bullies and other social stressors and certainly not any faulty brains. Diet may be a factor especially today, but the current model is always blame the victims for any lethal effects inflicted by the current robber barons of our time, the real “patients” of psychiatry today as was the case with the robber barons of the 1930’s who along with psychiatry created the eugenics theories that led to the Nazi Holocaust after psychiatrists practiced by gassing to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill.” Today, they just drug and shock children and adults to early death by about 25 years after torturing and profiting from them during their greatly shortened lives thanks to the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    And Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has admitted recently that all DSM junk science stigmas that would include ADHD, bipolar and other recent voted in fad frauds of psychiatry are totally INVALID and lacking any science, medical or other evidence whatsoever.

    Thus, I think that despite blakeacake’s attempts to “educate” MIA members about all the great science behind the bogus invented ADHD stigma created to push amphetamines on innocent children that have been proven to cause much harm and little help or positive results after about three years and often ending up with an even worse bipolar assault due to the lethal effects of the kiddie cocaine pretense of help, MIA members and many others are all too well informed about the total junk science behind ADHD, bipolar and any other life destroying degradation rituals perpetrated by psychiatry/Big Pharma to force their brain disabling treatments on a literally brain washed public. But, the cat is out of the bag and more and more people are catching on thanks to all the corruption exposed in both psychiatry and Big Pharma not to mention all the destroyed, disabled lives exposed by Robert Whitaker in his many articles and books like Mad in America and Anatomy of an Epidemic.

    And by the way, the APA and CHADD, NAMI and many others are just drug company front groups.

  • As far as the junk science, invented, voted in ADHD life destroying stigma to push the vile kiddie cocaine drugs to a make a literal killing by biopsychiatry when it sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s, I will trust Dr. Fred Baughman, lifelong Child Neurologist, and author of ADHD Fraud any day of the week when he speaks of such psychiatric fraud as the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity. We can thank Dr. Joseph Biederman for such crimes against children when he personally sold out the nation’s children to the drug companies he was truly serving when he almost single handedly created both the ADHD and bipolar epidemics in children just like DSM III and IV perpetrators created the adult bipolar epidemic in adults and now the DSM V perpetrators are pushing for adult ADHD. This Dr. Mengele like psychiatric monstrosity never ends. And ADHD drugs are now being promoted for the brand new DSM bogus stigma of “binge eating disorder” with an article about it posted in the news section of MIA with many upset because these toxic drugs put people at risk for heart attacks and other lethal effects with children far from immune as many children have died from these dangerous drugs.

    And the real experts have exposed that any supposed differences in the brains of so called ADHD and normal kids are due to the toxic drugs given to those stuck with a junk science ADHD stigma due to abusive families, bullies and other social stressors and certainly not any faulty brains. Diet may be a factor especially today, but the current model is always blame the victims for any lethal effects inflicted by the current robber barons of our time, the real “patients” of psychiatry today as was the case with the robber barons of the 1930’s who along with psychiatry created the eugenics theories that led to the Nazi Holocaust after psychiatrists practiced by gassing to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill.” Today, they just drug and shock children and adults to early death by about 25 years after torturing and profiting from them during their greatly shortened lives thanks to the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    And Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has admitted recently that all DSM junk science stigmas that would include ADHD, bipolar and other recent voted in fad frauds of psychiatry are totally INVALID and lacking any science, medical or other evidence whatsoever.

    Thus, I think that despite blakeacake’s attempts to “educate” MIA members about all the great science behind the bogus invented ADHD stigma created to push amphetamines on innocent children that have been proven to cause much harm and little help or positive results after about three years and often ending up with an even worse bipolar assault due to the lethal effects of the kiddie cocaine pretense of help, MIA members and many others are all too well informed about the total junk science behind ADHD, bipolar and any other life destroying degradation rituals perpetrated by psychiatry/Big Pharma to force their brain disabling treatments on a literally brain washed public. But, the cat is out of the bag and more and more people are catching on thanks to all the corruption exposed in both psychiatry and Big Pharma not to mention all the destroyed, disabled lives exposed by Robert Whitaker in his many articles and books like Mad in America and Anatomy of an Epidemic.

  • As far as the junk science, invented, voted in ADHD life destroying stigma to push the vile kiddie cocaine drugs to a make a literal killing by biopsychiatry when it sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s, I will trust Dr. Fred Baughman, lifelong Child Neurologist, and author of ADHD Fraud any day of the week when he speaks of such psychiatric fraud as the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity. We can thank Dr. Joseph Biederman for such crimes against children when he personally sold out the nation’s children to the drug companies he was truly serving when he almost single handedly created both the ADHD and bipolar epidemics in children just like DSM III and IV perpetrators created the adult bipolar epidemic in adults and now the DSM V perpetrators are pushing for adult ADHD. This Dr. Mengele like psychiatric monstrosity never ends. And ADHD drugs are now being promoted for the brand new DSM bogus stigma of “binge eating disorder” with an article about it posted in the news section of MIA with many upset because these toxic drugs put people at risk for heart attacks and other lethal effects with children far from immune as many children have died from these dangerous drugs.

    And the real experts have exposed that any supposed differences in the brains of so called ADHD and normal kids are due to the toxic drugs given to those stuck with a junk science ADHD stigma due to abusive families, bullies and other social stressors and certainly not any faulty brains. Diet may be a factor especially today, but the current model is always blame the victims for any lethal effects inflicted by the current robber barons of our time, the real “patients” of psychiatry today as was the case with the robber barons of the 1930’s who along with psychiatry created the eugenics theories that led to the Nazi Holocaust after psychiatrists practiced by gassing to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill.” Today, they just drug and shock children and adults to early death by about 25 years after torturing and profiting from them during their greatly shortened lives thanks to the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    And Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has admitted recently that all DSM junk science stigmas that would include ADHD, bipolar and other recent voted in fad frauds of psychiatry are totally INVALID and lacking any science, medical or other evidence whatsoever.

    Thus, I think that despite blakeacake’s attempts to “educate” MIA members about all the great science behind the bogus invented ADHD stigma created to push amphetamines on innocent children that have been proven to cause much harm and little help or positive results after about three years and often ending up with an even worse bipolar assault due to the lethal effects of the kiddie cocaine pretense of help, MIA members and many others are all too well informed about the total junk science behind ADHD, bipolar and any other life destroying degradation rituals perpetrated by psychiatry/Big Pharma to force their brain disabling treatments on a literally brain washed public. But, the cat is out of the bag and more and more people are catching on thanks to all the corruption exposed in both psychiatry and Big Pharma not to mention all the destroyed, disabled lives exposed by Robert Whitaker in his many articles and books like Mad in America and Anatomy of an Epidemic.

  • Dr. Wallace,

    I found your article to be very inspiring and it gives me a great deal of hope that someone like you being trained in traditional psychiatry could see through this corrupt paradigm and recognize that yours and your patients’ humanity are the same and equally important and valuable. I was especially impressed that you saw your “patients'” problems were much like your own as fellow human beings.

    I hope you keep up the good work while continuing to spread the word to those in your profession at MIA and elsewhere until many more share your helpful, humane, compassionate, humble (in a very good way) and caring approach to those you encounter. Many of us at MIA went through the same type of journey to our “enlightenment” about mainstream psychiatry including finding Dr. Peter Breggin’s life saving books and others throwing us a lifesaver.

  • Sandy,

    My last paragraph expressing my gratitude and admiration for you(despite our differences past and present we’ve agreed could exist while having some meeting of minds) was buried in my post, so I’m recopying it in the hopes you will see it and hang in there. I’m glad to see you still posting at MIA and I appreciate your long term efforts to learn about and fight against the worst of the Big Pharma/biopsychiatry APA/KOL/government industrial complex as you continue to share this process with us.

    I now have a famous Dr. Steingard quote I use when I don’t think things easily fall into black and white categories: “I’m feeling “muddled” about this…though that wasn’t your exact quote I’m sure, but the idea sure works when one is honestly “muddled” when trying to make sense of the best choices in very complex, difficult situations that you obviously face daily with limited funds, resources and support.

    Here’s my last paragraph in my above post that is a tribute to you though you might not think so reading the rest of my post:

    “I’m glad and impressed that Dr. Sandy Steingard read Bob Whitaker’s book with an open mind and has gradually been changing her own views based on his work and her own related research and trials while being more upfront with her patients with informed consent while trying to wean people off toxic neuroleptics as much as possible. (I hope you hear me Sandy).”

    I also miss your posts on 1boringoldman and hope you won’t allow the bullies to drive you away as others there expressed as well.

  • Sascha,

    This is a fantastic, gripping and hard hitting story that does really connect the dots of the monstrous cannibalistic global Big Pharma/Corporate and political agendas using psychiatry as a means of brutal social control and enabling fascist totalitarian governments to rob people of all their civil, human, democratic rights in the guise of mental health especially against dissidents exposing or protesting these brutal government/corporate dictatorships as did Stalinist Russia emulated by the U.S., the UK and other so called democracies in modern times.

    The great book and web site, Political Ponerology, explains this psychopathic micro and macro hijacking of decent people and governments/organizations via infiltration, manipulation and ultimate totalitarian control as with Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, etc. The author working under such a dictatorship himself while secretly writing this work and trying to get it to influential people to no avail ultimately got it published under great duress in the U.S. to warn others of this psychopathic menace to humanity unless they wake up to their nefarious goals and tactics. Unfortunately, he warns that psychopaths manage to infiltrate and hijack governments during good times when people get too lax until the guaranteed bad times come thanks to the ultimate cruel psychopathic inhumane agendas which require people to wake up and use their growing suffering to fight and take back their power and governments as with Nazi Germany, etc. Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopaths and consultant to the FBI, also exposes how much human evil and suffering is inflicted on humanity by these intraspecies predators in his books, Without Conscience and Snakes in Suits: When Pychopaths Go to Work based on the classic book, The Mask of Sanity by Dr. Hervey Cleckley. Dr. Hare created the PCL-R or test for identifying psychopaths, another name for evil, sadistic, predatory people well described in the works of major world religions.

    Thanks for sharing this with us.

  • Soneone Else,

    Thanks for your encouraging comment about my link to the great Dr. Loren Mosher and colleagues with an excerpt from a highly acclaimed book on “schizophrenia.”

    This rather short excerpt does a superb job explaining the out and out evil corruption by Big Pharma of all those in power from government, medicine/psychiatry, academia, the supposed watchdogs like the FDA, NAMI and other drug company front groups, the media for the most part, advertising and promotion, schools, the courts, familes and society at large.

    I hadn’t realized that Big Pharma was actually literally behind the forced treatment agenda to further expand their lethal neuroleptic drug markets while preying on children, the elderly, pregnant women and babies in utero and any other breathing (if only barely) human being who could be forced on these poisons for their insatiable greed, power hunger and sadism. Of course, this makes sense when one considers that Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopaths and consultant to the FBI, agreed with the author of the book and DVD, The Corporation, describing its evil agendas and “behaviors,” that many modern day “corporations” as well as those leading them could well be described as psychopathic (or just plain evil, intraspecies predators).

    Of course, Jim Gottstein, J.D. gives some involved the benefit of the doubt when he uses the terms duped or complicit describing this debacle, meaning that not all involved were aware of the predatory Big Pharma/biopsychiatry KOL/APA agenda behind the new “magic bullet” supposed wonder drugs or second generation neuroleptics with the best corporate spin money could buy. Even Bob Whitaker said he believed this great miracle story until David Oaks, former Director of Mindfreedom, encouraged Bob to investigate the history behind psychiatry’s great DSM and neuroleptic wonder drug “success” and the rest was history as Bob explains on a blog about Oaks being a great influence on him. And this excerpt doesn’t even touch on the next monstrous invention and expansion of the bipolar fad fraud described in Dr. David Healy’s MANIA: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder, that demonstrates that the DSM III and IV addition and expansion of this latest garbage can “sacred symbol” of psychiatry could be used to prey on one and all including perpetrators and victims, Axis II and anyone but the “kitchen sink” to push the lethal neuroleptics and the bogus “mood stabilizers” or reinvented epileptic drugs for a bogus theory that bipolar and epileptic seizures have similar paths. This also coincided with the nefarious Texas Medical Algorithm scandals to push the toxic second generation neuroleptic drugs on Medicaid programs nationally that has led to a vast number of children in the state welfare and orphaned children programs being on these poisons. Fortunately, in recent years there has been a public and media outcry about this toxic over drugging of such vulnerable children thanks to Senator Grassley exposing the child bipolar overreach to justify toxic neuroleptics for children by Joseph Biederman actually working on behalf of Johnson & Johnson. Biederman was supposedly doing an NIMH government study while promising J&J positive study results of their neuroleptic drug before the study was even done, which is illegal especially with an NIMH grant, getting him the usual slap on the wrist despite being responsible for the death of toddler Rebecca Riley and similar victims thanks to his bipolar toxic drug cocktail protocols that single handedly caused the child bipolar epidemic. MIA recently posted an article about how this child bipolar epidemic came about mainly in the U.S.

    I guess I was pretty naïve not to realize Big Pharma’s role in the forced treatment agenda, which makes the likes of Torrey, Jaffe, Murphy all the more dangerous.

    You cited the quotes by Robert Whitaker as puzzling, but these are actually quotes by the perpetrators quoted by Whitaker in his great book, Mad in America, when Bob first came to realize these sordid truths about the great claims of progress with the treatment with neuroleptics or “magic bullets” of the so called mentally ill. Thus, those quotes are used by Bob to make his points about the bad treatment of those stigmatized as mentally ill and certainly not to condone it. It appears Bob had a pretty close relationship with Dr. Loren Mosher with videos of their talking together about the “mental health system” on the web including a great site called Yoism.

    I’m glad and impressed that Dr. Sandy Steingard read Bob Whitaker’s book with an open mind and has gradually been changing her own views based on his work and her own related research and trials while being more upfront with her patients with informed consent while trying to wean people off toxic neuroleptics as much as possible. (I hope you hear me Sandy).

  • Sleves includes the life, memory destroying ECT as one of the supposed wonder treatments doled out by his group for the “mentally ill” supposedly so eager and willing to have these “treatments.” It is well known that so called patients must pretend to agree with psychiatrists and their enablers about their bogus stigma and the need for their toxic drugs or they risk forced treatment and being indefinitely committed if they don’t play their fascist, humiliating degradation rituals “game” like the current Hunger Games. Often, these victims are falsely accused of some bogus aggression by some family member, police or other fraud to put them in this Orwellian, Kafka like nightmare.

    Here is a great article on ECT that exposes the horrors of this brain damaging torture treatment that is one of the most lucrative in psychiatry with all of the supposed “evidence base” invented by those with huge conflicts of interest with ECT machine makers like Harold Sackeim and Max Fink and the fact that they can make much more money by subjecting mainly helpless elderly women to this barbaric treatment to exploit their Medicare while subjecting them to heart attack risks, more memory loss and brain damage and a great increase risk of death that is often not honestly reported. This is monstrous and evil and in my opinion, there is nothing banal about it.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/health/lhs195.htm

    Again, Linda Andre’s excellent book, Doctors of Deception, about ECT is considered one of the best if not the best on the topic.

    Dr. Breggin writes about the shocking study that Sackeim finally produced after being paid by the government to do it as one of the greatest promoters of ECT that he avoided for years while making a fortune off ECT and shock machine conflicts of interest like his fellow ECT pushers. The study proves what ECT victims knew all along: it destroys memories, cognitive function, intelligence, creativity and human lives, which drove some of its more famous victims to suicide like Ernest Hemingway, Sylvia Plath and Virginia Wolf:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/disturbing-news-for-patie_b_44734.html

    Dr. Breggin also exposes that all of psychiatry’s so called “treatments” are brain damaging/disabling or chemical, electrical, surgical lobotomies with the latter two barbaric practices making a great comeback.

  • Though I never knew Leonard Frank personally, I certainly felt and feel that I did. Anyone who has researched antipsychiatry and other criticisms of psychiatry for a long time like me became aware of Leonard Frank’s story and passion about the harms of the “mental health” system he wanted to help others avoid. I give him much credit for his works on ECT and quotations along with his video to educate others. He was obviously a very brilliant, dedicated man.

    Like others here I am sad to learn that Leonard will no longer live among us, but he will always be with us in our hearts and minds.

  • Dr. Hickey,

    Based on our past correspondence about the bipolar epidemic and Dr. Nassir Ghaemi’s huge contribution to it, I am very pleased about your recent articles on SSRI induced mania now included in the DSM V as justified for a life destroying bogus bipolar stigma for all ages and this one about Dr. Ghaemi’s usual utilitarian approach especially when it comes to his addictive passion to stigmatize everyone on the planet with bipolar as well as the psychotherapy discussed here. To facilitate this goal he is constantly advocating for his version of “evidence based medicine” described by The Last Psychiatrist below with the top priority being to keep the bipolar/Big Pharma gravy train going and expanding exponentially as well as Ghaemi’s role as a supposed “mood disorders” expert. There is little doubt that any so called therapy provided by Ghaemi and his minions would revolve around doling out bipolar stigmas and forcing people to take their lethal drugs depending on what is on patent and making the most billions for the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel. This is typical of much of what passes for “therapy” today in that it serves to brainwash people to accept their lifelong bipolar or “mental illness,” accept they will live a horrible, disabled life at the mercy of psychiatrist till death do they part (much earlier by about 25 years for the victims due to the toxic drugs) and they can never amount to anything other than being a psychiatric slave for life.

    Here is The Last Psychiatrist about this approach by Ghaemi with bipolar:

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/04/experts_weigh_in_on_bipolar_di.html

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/01/the_massacre_of_the_unicorns_i.html

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/11/massacre_of_the_unicorns.html

    Thank you for your ongoing take no prisoners meticulous, honest, scientific “analysis” of biopsychiatry, contributions to the bipolar epidemic and certain enablers like Nassir Ghaemi that keep this predatory, destructive paradigm going at the cost of countless destroyed human lives.

    Since bipolar disorder is the new “sacred symbol” to justify psychiatry’s existence, I would welcome any future insights you might be willing or able to share about the bogus bipolar epidemic destroying countless lives from in utero to grave.

  • Sleves,

    I find it hard to believe that you are unaware of the fact that we now live in fascist, “therapeutic,” states with psychiatry serving as militant police as everyone, especially our children (just like Soviet Russia), is under constant surveillance at school, work, community, etc. Teachers are “taught” the junk science DSM to stigmatize any normal children misbehaving and collude with school “psychologists” (yes, the ones who developed literal torture treatment for the CIA for so called terrorists without due process) to send them to a psychiatrist to be officially stigmatized and drugged. Most school shooters were found to have experienced such stigma and “treatment” with many suffering rampant bullying, which likely drove them over the edge from the dangerous drug effects and the huge injustice that the bullies were validated at their horrific expense as happens in work places and communities at large, which is called mobbing. Of course, psychiatry does nothing to expose the deadly effect of bullying, mobbing, domestic violence, rampant psychopathy/malignant narcissism by the 1% and their minions or other atrocities that cause immense human suffering with their easy, lucrative “blame the victim” approach to cater to those in power. Even Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, past APA president and psychiatry cheerleader, recently admitted their absence in domestic violence after the NFL debacle. But, that’s not true: psychiatry blames and stigmatizes domestic violence victims including children for their very normal trauma reactions to put the nails in their coffins to aid and abet their fellow abusers with more power and manipulation skills. Thus, psychiatry serves as the chief bullies and mobbers too while destroying the victims with impunity.

    And any parent(s) who dares object to such fraudulent, life destroying “treatment” for their children in custody battles, single parenthood or intact marriages face huge risk of having their children taken away, which is happening all too frequently despite what you claim. The fact that many cases like that of Justin Pelletier have made many headlines in all the media makes me greatly question your claims and/or awareness of what is going on. Many of these cases have been covered at MIA as well.

    Thus, I stand by what I said in that just because you state or promote dangerous fallacies “nicely” does not make them any less dangerous. We now live in a situation similar to Stalinist Russia whereby anyone can be falsely accused of being “mentally ill” by their own families, coworkers, community and world at large since a third grader could use the DSM or “Book of Insults” (Jim Gottstein, J.D. of Psych Rights), which is just a more sneaky, immature way of insulting someone with name calling with the typical “You’re crazy” to hurt, negate and shut someone up. But, psychiatry’s use of this type of name calling is far more pernicious because this gives them literal license to lobotomize their victims after such psychological and verbal abuse. Mostly abusive men do this routinely to destroy their wives and even children psychologically and make them appear crazy from their abuse related trauma to destroy them in divorces to rob them of everything with help from the mental death profession of course.

    Thus, it is not MIA members who are dangerous warning other would be victims against this web of deceit of “mental health,” but rather, those who continue to pretend it helps saves lives when the opposite is all too true.

  • Sleves,

    I stongly urge you to read Dr. Philip Hickey’s posts here and more completely on his web site, Behaviorism and Mental Health, whereby he exposes what most MIA posters had to learn the hard way: that the entire foundation of psychiatry is spurious because it medicalizes typical human problems, suffering, grief, stress and other normal reactions to life itself. As you should know, all DSM life destroying stigmas were invented and voted in by consensus without a shred of science or medical evidence behind them to supposedly solve their “reliability” problem per Dr. Robert Spitzer, editor of the DSM III. Thus, psychiatry decided to pretend to be more medical and sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s that got us to the near totalitarian therapeutic state we have now due to the billions Big Pharma poured in to corrupt medicine, government and the media to make multibillions themselves at the horrific expense of more and more falsely medicalized victims. Dr. Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist, warned that the most dangerous thing one could do was visit a psychiatrist under this new fraudulent paradigm since such a visit was guaranteed to result in a life destroying stigma and a prescription of dangerous, toxic psych drugs within a very short visit. The eminent Dr. Thomas Szasz warned about in his many books like The Therapeutic State, The Myth of Mental Illness, Psychiatry: The Science of Lies and many others. Even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has now admitted that the DSM and its voted in labels are totally lacking in any validity or evidence whatever and the NIMH is moving in a different direction.

    And you don’t think stigmatizing people to force lethal drugs on them and subject them to gross human rights violations and deprivation of all civil and democratic rights is a problem?

    I regret that you did not like my comments seeing them as negative, but no matter how nicely or pleasantly or persuasively you and others promoting psychiatry speak, the fact that you are spreading deadly, life destroying falsehoods based on a spurious, nonmedical area of medicine is far more cruel, offensive and dangerous than anything I or others at MIA could say. Perhaps you should read more at MIA and elsewhere in the books I cite here to start to learn what many here had to learn at horrific costs to their health, families, careers, financial security, children, human freedoms, civil rights, reputation and so many agonizing other tragic losses.

    I suggest you read Robert Whitaker’s Mad in America and Anatomy of an Epidemic. Dr. Peter Breggin’s Toxic Psychiatry, Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed., Mediation Madness, The War on Children of Color, Dr. Grace Jackson, Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs; Drs. Kirk, Gomory & Cohen, Mad Science: Psychiatric Coercion, Diagnosis, and Drugs, Dr. Grace Jackson, Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs and Drug Induced Dementia: The Perfect Crime, Dr. Timothy Scott, American Fooled, Dr. David Healy, The Antidepressant Era, Pharmagddon, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder, Dr. James Davis, Cracked, Drs. Stuart and Kirk, The Selling of the DSM and Making Us Crazy, Dr. Paula Caplan, They Say You’re Crazy, Dr. Gary Greenburgy, The Book of Woe, Dr. Joanna Moncrieff, The Bitterist Pill and The Myth of the Chemical Cure, Drs. Pam & Ross, Pseudoscience in Biological Psychiatry, Dr. Daniel Carlott, Dr. Linda Andre, Doctors of Deception (about brain damaging ECT), Psychiatry Unhinged, and countless others you can find at Amazon or the web.

    Thus, for you to keep extolling the usefulness supposed great benefits of biopsychiatry with its Book of Insults or DSM junk science to falsely stigmatize and ostracize those they target to make them permanent captives of what I call the “mental death profession,” to subject them to what Dr. Peter Breggin calls brain disabling/damaging drugs, ECT or chemical, electrical and surgical lobotomies is highly offensive for those who have not only done huge amounts of research to save our very lives or those of loved ones, but also to validate our reality after being subjected to psychiatry’s self serving brain washing for their guild interests alone.

  • It is very unfortunate when psychiatry’s minions and enablers pontificate and post their infomercials for biopsychiatry without doing the tons of research and homework by many MIA members of the real experts who have not been corrupted by Big Pharma or APA guild interests.

    I also suspect that some supposed psychiatric “patients” extolling all the supposed life saving benefits of psychiatry while denying/ignoring the huge harms made clear in The Physicians Desk Reference, patient inserts, billion dollar law suits against Big Pharma and FDA black box warnings sadly after much harm has been done are really psychiatrists or other “mental health” experts and cheerleaders for the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma Mafioso cartel exposed in the great book, Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime.

    As some main stream psychiatrists have found, most MIA members are all too well informed to be so easily conned and manipulated by such guild cheerleading for a very broken, harmful paradigm that is biopsychiatry.

  • Stephen,

    Thanks for your comment and validation of my post. I think the issue is that the whole idea of ethics, morality, conscience and their related positive and negative emotions is a very challenging, emotional topic. Thus, I think when we read an article like Dr. Breggin’s here on this sensitive issue, our brains can be hijacked with our own personal experiences and prejudices that make it difficult to give the article a fair assessment unless we are aware of such tendencies. Note the very different reactions to the same article by Dr. Breggin. Obviously, this is a volatile topic with which decent people are apt to struggle unlike the psychopaths/sociopaths/malignant narcissists or just plain evil people in our midst.

    And if you reread the article it is obvious that Dr. Breggin is speaking of unwarranted, undeserved guilt children can experience in the beginning and not guilt that they should feel for doing real wrong like harming others.

    I want to also thank you again for your many wise, insightful comments based on your own personal and work experience. They have helped to validate my own reality time after time, so I hope you keep sharing them.

    Take care.

  • In my encounters with Dr. Peter Breggin via his books, web sites, media writings, appearances and other noble actions to fight against the harm done by biopyschiatry and warn the public as well at great cost to himself, he has impressed me as a very noble, ethical, honest person who advocates for human empathy, fulfilling one’s spiritual and other higher purposes and the greatest level of morality. Thus, I was initially confused myself as Dr. Breggin started this article explaining that more primitive societies needed more biological forms of shame, guilt and anxiety for “social control” to avoid excess violence, crimes and other serious infractions for the safety of families and their societies and then seemed to say that these emotions are not only useless, but harmful.

    However, as I read further, I saw that Dr. Breggin was not saying such emotions are useless, but rather, that for them to be useful, one has to develop one’s ethics or morals in a conscious way with “good enough” parenting and other influences to seriously consider what is right and wrong rather than just acting on primitive biological or animal like instincts that can often lead us astray in human societies that are not the natural state that animals enjoy. At the same time, though our more aggressive behaviors can be harmful, they can also be very helpful as long as we harness them so they can work for productive, ethical purposes. Dr. George Simon addresses this issue in his great book, Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which explains the difference between covert aggressives who manipulate their victims with the pretense of good motives to exploit and harm them and those who control their aggressive impulses to produce high quality work or goals without harming others.

    Though I loathe the junk science DSM claims in the following article, it does address the work of psychologists in dealing with very damaging excess or undeserved guilt, anxiety and shame that can come from families, schools, societies and one’s self for many reasons that can be intentional or simply unconscious intergenerational carryovers. I think this is what Dr. Breggin is addressing in this article rather than advocating for such a lack of guilt or shame, we would all act like psychopaths or sociopaths with no conscience or empathy:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/01/childhood-guilt-adult-depression/384176/

    Here is a great article about theories of moral development in children that shows that there is much more to developing a good conscience, ethics and morality than relying on one’s base animal instincts or abusive, controlling people or systems:

    http://www.earlychildhoodnews.com/earlychildhood/article_view.aspx?ArticleID=118

    Even in trying to write this post, I am finding this issue difficult to convey, so I will recommend the reviewers at Amazon who give Dr. Breggin’s new book very high praise:

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/1616141492/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=64060528093&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=662841306962661546&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7wttlnanvf_b

    Since I was brought up Catholic in their most rigid, guilt tripping times with an over zealous family and community, I can truly appreciate the need for a book like the above because some guilt and shame is imposed or inflicted due to ignorance or less than noble motives by the guilt trippers, which causes more harm than good as Dr. Breggin explains. I can see where I and others with similar backgrounds could greatly benefit from this book and intend to buy it myself.

    C.S. Lewis has lamented that in modern times many people have mistaken “niceness” for ethics and goodness, which are far from the same thing. We now have the tyranny of “political correctness” as well. Lewis also demonstrated that ethics and morality can be twisted to meet the eyes of the beholder with the following famous quotation:

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

    ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

    Doesn’t the above quotation remind you of the very abuses perpetrated by main stream biopsychiatry like brain damaging drugs and ECT that Dr. Breggin has bravely fought to expose and change as the “conscience of psychiatry?” In my opinion, it fits perfectly in that biopsychiatry sure tries to cure people against their will of states we may not regard as diseases, which compares to being treated like infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals, which comprises an intolerable insult. The fact that biopsychiatry has engaged in such immoral behavior while hijacking the world to impose their own version of morality and ethics around the globe is one of the greatest outrages and crimes against humanity ever. This is all too clear when one considers that psychiatry’s eugenics theories invented to aid and abet the robber barons of their times past and present were used by them to instigate the Nazi Holocaust and many other past and recent ethnic cleansings that have expanded to target anyone who can be exploited by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/Business/Government cartel including children and toddlers no less. Dr. Breggin has written a superb article exposing psychiatry’s contribution to the Nazi Holocaust with the article quoting those who presided over the Nuremburg Trials who acknowledged that without psychiatry, the Nazi Holocaust would probably never have happened.

    Finally, I think if one reads Dr. Breggin’s article carefully, it makes a great deal of sense that in our complicated human society, we cannot just rely on our initial animal type instincts, but rather, we must work our whole lives to develop our own value system of ethics, morality, spirituality and other higher purposes to develop our full human potential.

    ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

  • Bob Whitaker does a great job exposing Dr. Thomas Insel’s ongoing futile, but very costly never ending latest eugenics agenda in psychiatry that continues to harm countless lives in the guise of “mental health.”

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/01/the-taint-of-eugenics-in-nimh-funded-research-today/

    Dr. Jay Joseph, Psychologist, MIA author and author of The Missing Gene, The Gene Illusion and
    most recently The Trouble with Twin Studies: A Reassessment of Twin Research in the Social and Behavioral Sciences, along with many articles once again debunks the predatory eugenics agenda of biopsychiatry with the goal of blaming the victims for the gross injustice, oppression, increasing inequality, poor schools, poverty, racism, sexism, robbery of global and local resources at the expense of the majority, pollution and other evils inflicted by the latest robber barons whom biopsychiatry has always served via a predatory eugenics/euthanasia agenda as it continues to do today. The only difference today is that the psychopaths in power have learned to torture and poison their victims gradually via toxic food, drugs, pollution, lies, injustice, creating the junk science “mental death” agenda to rob an increasing majority of all their democratic, civil, human rights directly and indirectly with an increasing Stalinist totalitarian dictatorship pretending to be a democracy as exposed the book, Political Ponerology and its related web site and many others. Dr. Joseph lefts the veil of psychiatry’s attempts to cover up their crimes against humanity by demonstrating over and over that their never ending bogus claims of inferior genes, brain circuits and other ideology disguised as science become obvious and irrelevant once the true causes are recognized:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/12/biology-genetics-irrelevant-true-causes-recognized/

  • What I found really great about this publication is that rather than just blaming the victims for their so called depression, it addresses the many growing social problems that are causing it as well as the importance of a good relationship between therapist and client that addresses individual needs.

    I have copied the editor’s introductory article because he exposes the well known problem of the so called mental health system blaming the victims for their socially/environmental induced stress or “depression:” (Donna)

    “Editor’s Note By Rich Simon”

    “More than two decades ago, on the opening page of the book We’ve Had a Hundred Years of Psychotherapy—And the World’s Getting Worse, psychologist James Hillman told his coauthor, writer Michael Ventura, why he thought psychotherapy was—already, back then!—at a dead end. “We’re working on our relationships constantly, and our feelings and reflections, but look what’s left out of that . . . a deteriorating world. . . . By removing the soul from the world and not recognizing that the soul is also in the world, psychotherapy can’t do its job any more. The buildings are sick, the institutions are sick, the banking system is sick, the schools, the streets—the sickness is out there.”

    I’m half-inclined to stop right there, since what Hillman was saying is still true today— except that it’s so much truer now than it was even then. If the world’s mental health was “getting worse” in 1992, it’s gone catastrophically downhill since. The numbers cited in Jonathan Rottenberg’s cover article in this issue are stunning. The suicide rate for adults is up 25 percent since 1999. Depression is expected to produce more death and disability by 2030 than war, accidents, cancer, stroke, and heart disease. This is in spite of the fact that antidepressant use has increased 400 percent since 1988—not to mention the vast industry of self-help books published since then! Depression is becoming the most important public health issue in the world.

    Furthermore, as Hillman suggested way back then, depression doesn’t happen in a social vacuum. It may be our civilization itself, our high living standards, but also the stresses and strains of modern life and our relentless competition and unflagging desire for more—more money, more status, more power, more stuff, more happiness—that create the conditions for chronic low mood.

    And yet, in spite of profound historical changes that make us more vulnerable to depression, the entire mental health establishment still regards the condition much as it did more than two decades ago—as an individual problem, confined within an individual skull, best approached with individual therapies or nostrums. In the face of massive evidence that “individual” depression is really a vast social and cultural problem inextricably linked to the habits, mores, and expectations of our era, our tunnel vision is remarkably unchanged. So why do we continue to use a relentlessly individualized remedy to fight a socially mediated disorder?

    Therapy’s individual focus can be a weakness, certainly, but that focus is also its glory. A particular kind of personal, individual (to use those “bad” words) relationship is what makes it work, what helps people, including depressed people, get better. And it hardly needs mentioning that people experiencing suicidal despair won’t be helped much by getting a lecture on the downsides of 21st-century civilization.

    Still, it seems reasonable to ask whether as therapists we don’t have a public health responsibility to educate people about the role played by our society in generating unprecedented levels of depression. We should be aware—and make our clients aware—that they’re not in some way abnormal or deficient because they’re depressed. Just the opposite. If we accept Rottenberg’s persuasive account of the evolutionary impulses of our brains—that depression and anxiety are built into our genome—and we live in a time that specifically evokes them, being depressed is, sadly, a pretty normal way to be!

    While this issue of the Networker offers no Big Answers to what we can do as a field to address the growing problem of depression, at the very least it proposes that we begin to bring a broader social consciousness into our work than simply assigning DSM-5 labels to the clients who pass through our offices.”

    http://www.psychotherapynetworker.org/magazine/currentissue/item/2571-editors-note-by-rich-simon

    Perhaps this publication and its articles might provide some people with some real help rather than just conning and stigmatizing them with bogus DSM labels per the article above. (Donna)

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    Published in 2014 November/December

  • Great Washington Post article that backs up the above post on the many problems and challenges of “legal” and “illegal” “painkillers, addiction, medical pain management and modern drug cocktails prescribed regularly or obtained via friends and family leading to 100 deaths per day. Keith Humphreys, one of the nation’s leading addiction researchers who teaches psychiatry at Stanford and is a scientist in the VA Palo Alto Health Care System is interviewed about the many challenges surrounding the current overdose and death epidemic among such legal and illegal drug users. He cites the tragedy of the death of the great actor, Philip Seymour, and how lack of one’s usual tolerance after abstinence can play a great role due to lack of information provided to those at risk coming out of jail, rehab and other risky times. Humphreys also points out that making opioids prescription only from licensed medical professionals has not solved the problem of massive harm caused by these drugs. Further, since heroin is cheaper, many users are driven back to the streets and violence that legal prescriptions are meant to avoid. This can easily happen when the many people suffering great pain get addicted to legally prescribed opioids, lose their health insurance and can no longer afford the drugs. Humphreys also laments that the current prescribing of benzos and psychiatric drug cocktails that get mixed with heroin, which was previously uncommon, has greatly increased the death rate in this at risk group. Humphrey describes many other challenges that contribute to this human holocaust that might be changed or avoided. The greed of both criminal minded or lax doctors and Big Pharma have also played a huge role in this tragic drug cocktail epidemic.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/02/07/100-americans-die-of-drug-overdoses-each-day-how-do-we-stop-that/

  • Like others commenting above, Dr. Peter Breggin is one of my greatest heroes and saviors thanks to his ground breaking, life saving books like Toxic Psychiatry, Your Drug May Be Your Problem, Reclaiming Our Children, his fact books on drugs and so many others that were crucial to my being literally able to save the very lives of loved ones.

    I will always be very grateful and indebted to Dr. Breggin for having the courage and conscience to speak out when psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s when he warned that the most dangerous thing one could do was visit a psychiatrist because one would leave with a life destroying stigma and a prescription for toxic, life threatening drugs within minutes of such a visit.

    Of course, the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel struck back against Dr. Breggin with a vengeance in an attempt to destroy him, but he was too qualified, honest, brave and ethical to allow them to win. Having the truth on his side and a much better proposal for dealing with “problems of living” with empathy and common sense rather than stigma, lies and violence was crucial for Dr. Breggin’s not only surviving but thriving to this day. Though the KOL’s and others in the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel may not be so thrilled with him, Dr. Breggin has far more admiring, fiercely loyal, very grateful fans like me than he can ever imagine thanks to the many lives he has saved and continues to do so.

    I am absolutely thrilled to see Dr. Breggin posting at MIA and I greatly hope he will continue sharing with us here.

    THANK YOU Dr. Breggin from the bottom of my heart!

  • I would say that the “party line” for biopsychiatry has been eugenics, eugenics, eugenics shoved down everybody’s throats for the most nefarious reasons with no evidence whatsoever. It is simply an ideology used to justify psychiatry’s brain disabling/damaging “treatments” that are really human rights abuses with the pretense that those falsely accused of having bogus DSM stigmas are an inferior race deserving of such horrific rights violations for power, greed, status and wealth for the 1% at the expense of the 99% since anyone can become a victim of the over 300 so called “disorders” in the DSM. Even grieving for a loved one can get one falsely accused of being “mentally ill” and with forced drugging and ECT no less probably based on their faulty genes for not being a perfect robot.

    As Dr. Jay Joseph and other gene experts point out, we have had tons of so called studies with genetic claims for voted in junk science DSM stigmas, but they have not been replicated. So, as it stands now there are no proven genes for autism or other so called DSM labels as Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the National Institute for Mental Health, and the author of the article of this post and many others have exposed.

    http://anthropomics.blogspot.com/2013/03/genetics-as-political-ideology.html

    http://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/biology-as-ideology-the-doctrine-of-dna/

  • There are tons of THEORIES about autism, but one thing is for certain. Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, recently admitted that the DSM and ALL of its so called disorders are totally invalid because there is not a shred of scientific, medical, physical or any other evidence to back them up. There is not one gene proven to cause ANY so called “mental illness” or APA voted in DSM label.

    So, anyone claiming various genes for this or that so called DSM disorder is a part of the ongoing bogus eugenics movement that psychiatry started in the 1930’s that resulted in the so called mentally ill being gassed to death as “useless eaters” by psychiatry that led to psychiatry instigating the Holocaust and moving their gassing units from the mental death wards to the concentration camps. Sadly, these horrible theories started in the U.S. with calls from psychiatry for sterilization, ostracism and institutionalization, and calls for euthanasia with the latter two atrocities passed into law in the U.S. The Germans put the last euthanasia agenda into action, which won them an award from the U.S. Thus, the U.S. can hang its head in shame for this evil contribution to the horrific treatment of the most vulnerable and others in the Nazi Holocaust.

    Anyway, here’s another idea about autism that many have found very compelling including me.

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/09/autism-deficit-super-sensitivity/

    Also, I find it great news when a study announces evidence that a so called disorder isn’t genetic because very few are per real gene experts not prostituting themselves for Big Pharma/Business because there is hope that new remedies can be found.

    See Dr. Jay Joseph’s The Gene Illusion and The Missing Gene and other ethical genetic experts exposing the real nefarious reason the 1% wants all these bogus gene studies and claims made. Answer: it allows them to prey on people and destroy them with impunity while blaming the victims’ supposed faulty genes for their deadly products, destruction of the environment and other destructive actions. The tobacco companies sought the lung cancer gene for decades with “doubt as their product” as they denied the harmful impact of smoking, but eventually they were exposed just like Big Pharma today. Of course, I realize the billions in fines are just the cost of making far more billions, but at least it exposes the truth. Psychiatry wants to work with the 1% power elite to blame the victims’ supposed faulty genes for the same reasons and to also deny the real traumatic consequences of growing inequality, poverty, abuse, trauma, stress, oppression, sexism, racism, their excess greed and theft at others’ expense and to make billions from their useless, toxic drugs pushed for the bogus DSM stigmas created by their henchmen in psychiatry.

    I just read in the New York Times that the former eugenics office in the U.S. closed recently, but certain people want all to focus on it to remember the horrors of Nazi Germany caused by eugenics theories while being gravely concerned about the many bogus gene claims made in the present mostly for the same reasons and the horrific consequences that can result from such “research.”

  • I agree. But, whether “schizophrenic symptoms” or toxic neuroleptics cause the lower, inadequate Vitamin D levels, it seems that encouraging such people to take Vitamin D supplements would be of great benefit until the cause of their deficit is sorted out since this can happen with anyone and not just those stigmatized by psychiatry.

    It would be great to find out that “schizophrenic symptoms” could be improved, healed or eliminated just by increasing one’s Vitamin D levels, but healthy habits apply to all whether one is stigmatized with bogus DSM labels or not. Vitamin D is crucial for everyone’s health and well being, so it is good to see that certain researchers are focusing on this health threat.

  • Great article as usual Rob. It was very frustrating to read many of the comments expressing either complicity or ignorance, which you handled well. Perhaps some articles and quotes by experts might help too. I regret I missed this article until I saw it on MIA today.

    I spent quite some time posting a response to your article to provide some of the evidence base that exposes biopsychiatry as scientifically, morally and medically bankrupt. I have copied it here because my comment may mysteriously disappear as has happened when I have challenged the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel at AlterNet before despite their claim of being an alternative:

    My comment on Rob’s article at AlterNet:

    The ignorance about the “mental death profession” here is appalling. Here is the famous letter of long term, highly renowned psychiatrist, Dr. Loren Mosher, whereby he resigns from the American Psychiatric Association protesting the complete sellout of psychiatry to Big Pharma in the 1980’s that has only grown worse with more time. Dr. Mosher was famous for his highly successful Soteria project much like the great Open Dialogue approach today to treat those with so called “schizophrenia” often with little or no toxic drugs with complete recovery for many. The best the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel can offer today is to force life destroying bogus stigmas with the latest fraud fad bipolar and toxic drug cocktails on their victims that will destroy their lives completely in a majority of cases. For those who don’t opt out via suicide due to psychiatry’s abusive, cruel, fraudulent “treatments” or aren’t driven to suicide by the useless, deadly drugs with suicide as a “side effect,” they can live in near poverty, isolation and stigma on SSI disability at the huge expense of tax payers or burden relatives in many cases. Today, SSI is also the alternative welfare whereby children must be given bogus psychiatric stigmas with forced drugging so families can quality for survival money in our horrible economy. The 1% who are the real “patients” of biopsychiatry continue to profit from the billions in profits in the “mental illness”/prison industrial complex while enslaving the rest of humanity with their increasing Orwellian fascist psychiatric agenda. This is because such crony capitalists have no conscience or ethics as shown in the book and DVD, The Corporation, and books like Without Conscience and Snakes in Suits by Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopaths. These people now running the globe are what Dr. Hare identifies as intraspecies predators who have been corrupting society and causing untold human misery since human beginnings.

    http://www.moshersoteria.com/a

    For those not just pandering here because they are part of this oppressive system, there are tons of books, web sites and other resources for society to educate itself against modern psychiatric oppression and their ever growing threat to basic human, civil, democratic rights. Here are some samples of some of the best ones while many others are available at Amazon and elsewhere:

    Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America Paperback – August 2, 2011, by Robert Whitaker

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ

    Mad Science: Psychiatric Coercion, Diagnosis, and Drugs Hardcover – April 4, 2013
    by Dr. Stuart A. Kirk, Dr. Tomi Gomory and Dr. David Cohen

    http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Scie

    Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare Paperback – August 31, 2013 by Peter C. Gotzsche (Author), Richard Smith (Foreword), Drummond Rennie (Foreword)

    http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-M

    The Bitterest Pills: The Troubling Story of Antipsychotic Drugs Paperback – September 15, 2013 by Joanna Moncrieff

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Bitt

    Toxic Psychiatry: Why Therapy, Empathy and Love Must Replace the Drugs, Electroshock, and Biochemical Theories of the “New Psychiatry” Paperback – August 15, 1994 by Dr. Peter R. Breggin (Author)

    http://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Ps

    Your Drug May Be Your Problem, Revised Edition: How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications Paperback – July 10, 2007 by Peter Breggin, M.D. (Author), David Cohen, Ph.D. (Author)

    Your Drug May Be Your Problem, Revised Edition: How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications Paperback – July 10, 2007 by Peter Breggin, M.D. (Author), David Cohen, Ph.D. (Author)

    http://www.amazon.com/Your-Dru

    Pharmageddon by Dr. David Healy

    http://www.amazon.com/Pharmage

    Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs: A Guide for Informed Consent Paperback – July 28, 2005 by MD Grace E. Jackson (Author)

    http://www.amazon.com/Rethinki

    Brain Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry: Drugs, Electroshock, and the Psychopharmaceutical Complex Hardcover – December 17, 2007 by Peter R. Breggin MD (Author)

    http://www.amazon.com/Brain-Di

    America Fooled: The Truth About Antidepressants, Antipsychotics And How We’ve Been Deceived Hardcover – April 26, 2006 by Timothy Scott (Author)

    http://www.amazon.com/America-

    Pseudoscience in Biological Psychiatry: Blaming the Body Hardcover – January 1, 1995 by by Colin A. Ross (Author), Alvin Pam (Author)

    Great review of this book by psychiatrist:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/

    http://www.amazon.com/Pseudosc

    There are now tons of books, articles and web sites exposing the fraud and menace of biopsychiatry, so anyone who is not just looking to profit from others’ suffering like some of the so called commenters below or those who have not done the extensive research required, I urge you to check out the above books that will lead to the many other sources exposing the truth. And nothing like the truth to set us free from the fascist, coercive agenda of biopsychiatry that exists only for the purpose of coercion and social control as exposed in the great book, Mad Science, above.

    The above article by Rob Wipond exposes just the tip of the iceberg of the many suicides and deaths caused by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel, so those who think ignorance is bliss, never forget what happened in Nazi Germany. Psychiatry came up with the horrific bogus eugenics theories that instigated the Nazi Holocaust after they practiced by gassing to death those they stigmatized as mentally ill. Psychiatry had passed many shocking eugenics laws in the U.S. that led to forced incarceration, sterilization and euthanasia recommended by psychiatry in the 1930’s, but Americans were decent enough to feel ashamed by the Nazi’s use of such theories so they closed their eugenics office. Eugenics remains alive and “well” today as psychiatry promulgates bogus gene and other so called biological theories of so called “mental illness” exposed by many real gene experts like Dr. Jay Joseph in books like The Missing Gene and The Gene Illusion and by ethical psychiatrists like Dr. Peter Breggin.

    “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/ar

    Needless to say, this took a lot of time, but I think it’s important to spread the word wherever and whenever possible.

    It would be great if others at MIA could support Rob’s great article by helping to promote the message of MIA and the truth about the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel that could include personal harm to many of the survivors here and/or their loved ones.

  • John,

    In a study on the same topic of the connection between “schizophrenia” and Vitamin D posted at MIA in August 2014, the authors admitted they didn’t distinguish between those on or off psychiatric drugs. The authors also point out that the lack of Vitamin D is being recognized as a contributing factor to many diseases/illnesses including diabetes and heart disease while it is even being linked to Alzheimer’s by others, so it wouldn’t be surprising if it also contributes to so called “schizophrenia” and other symptoms.

    Here is a link to the previous article on this topic posted at MIA discussing the issue you cited:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/08/vitamin-d-deficiency-linked-schizophrenia-diagnosis/

  • Brent and Jacqueline,

    Great enlightening, validating post exposing one of many or all bogus psychiatric stigmas/degradation rituals. I appreciate the exposure that this insult stigma mainly applied to women to abuse and denigrate them all the more has to do with the victim’s trauma than any of the fraudulent eugenic theories of “mental illness” still perpetrated as if we still lived in fascist, Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia!! What can one expect when their great mentor, Krapelin was the ultimate eugenicist predator himself?! Psychiatry can be really proud of this “accomplishment” and hopefully some day they will get their own “Nuremburg Trials” if not literally at least in terms of getting their proper place in history and public opinion once exposed as psychopathic enemies of mankind or intraspecies predators per Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopaths. See great books, Without Conscience and Snakes in Suits. Of course, the term “psychopath” simply describes the traits of evil, vicious, abusive, traumatizing, sadistic people who prey on others with impunity with their phony charm, mirroring, lies, manipulation, smear campaigns and other nasty tricks like phony charm, the ability to mimic normal humans to hide their total lack of empathy, conscience, etc. Many of them are clearly described in the Bible and similar works. Though I’m not into labels, I think the perps doling out the labels should get a taste of their own “medicine.”

    Though I realize there have been and remain some people within psychiatry who fight the main stream paradigm and try to really help people, they are in the great minority and can’t even begin to challenge the huge deadly psychiatry/Big Pharma/corrupt government hacks cartel that keeps the death trap of biological psychiatry churning.

    Another useful book and web site is Political Ponerology for a great understanding of our global suffering.

  • Comments on this article from the borderline article by Brent Potter et al on MIA:

    John Hoggett on October 23, 2014 at 1:27 pm said:

    clearest thing I’ve read all week.

    The only thing I’d add is that Lucy Johnstone’s article on alternatives to diagnosis, on this website, proposes Formulation, which simply involves asking people what thier problems are, what caused them and what might help. This is then agreed between the patient and the professional. It highlights and puts at the core of any professional work the person who is distressed voice and is no more than what anyone should do when trying to help someone who is distessed.

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    Brent Potter (MIA Author)on October 23, 2014 at 2:56 pm said:

    Glad you liked it, John. I appreciate too your mention of Lucy’s piece. That is the way to go, at least in my opinion. There’s absolutely no reason to have labels whatsoever. It is entirely possible to simply stick with someone’s own description of where he or she is ‘at’ and what he or she is asking for. This and similar avenues are what I try to present towards the end of the book. I am grateful to a number of different non-psychiatric organizations for allowing me to publish them as resources. Anyway, thanks again!

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  • fluffybunny,

    I totally agree with you and there are other decent experts out there providing the same message that one can change one’s mind/brain without drugs including bad habits, OCD and other problems like Dr. Jeffrey Schwartz in his great program and book, You Are Not Your Brain: The Four Step Solution for Changing Bad Habits.

    http://www.slideshare.net/mattrule/the-4-steps-slides?related=2

    http://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Not-Your-Brain/dp/1583334831

    Since our entire society and most of the world has been “brainwashed” by the mental death profession to believe their never ending blaming the victims evil eugenics lies, we do need to be unbrainwashed and realize that the lies inflicted on us by verbal and psychological abusers are projections of their own narcissism and lack of empathy/humanity/conscience.

    So, I agree that this article is a very positive one and it sure is a welcome antidote against psychiatry’s never ending assaults on humanity and children especially that they have defective brains, will be “mentally ill” for life and need to under psychiatric/police surveillance for life while robbed of all human/civil rights and take their toxic drugs, ECT and/or the latest brain disabling/damaging “treatment” du jour that lines their pockets with the current 1% robber barons they truly serve.

  • It’s great to see someone as honest, compassionate and decent as Pediatric psychiatrist Sujartha Ramakrishna, a rarity it seems in pediatric psychiatry. This is a very moving, impressive article and gives me some hope to the end of the evil psychiatric assault against children and humanity in general as some younger people in the profession are speaking out against this ongoing murderous eugenics enterprise.

  • Fiachra,

    Thanks for a great informative post! I’ve posted many items about the fact that abuse/trauma victims are routinely misdiagnosed as bipolar, delusional, ADHD and other life destroying, bogus stigmas, so I appreciate your adding to the greatly necessary exposure of this monstrous evil!

    This Dr. Ivor Browne seems like a very kind, decent, honest person and I plan to check him out more.

    It is my impression that anesthesia can always pose a danger to people, so using it for PTSD sure seems like literal overkill to me.

    And as you and others have noted here, brain disabling and brain damage are part and parcel of psychiatry’s so called “treatments” in keeping with their eugenics genocide they practiced when they instigated the Nazi Holocaust and other ethnic/racist “cleansings.”

  • Vegwellian,

    I suggest you google SSRI’s and school shootings. As I said above, I think you know alot of this because you are trying to promote your agenda here. Many of the legal cases won when the drugged victim committed murder of family, fellow employees or students also died by suicide or cop. Your claim that there is no connection between psych drugs and violence is quite false to say the least when all you have to do is google it or check out SSRIstories.

    Any so called relief from psych meds is spurious and maybe a placebo effect but evidence shows they cause far more harm in the long run than the minor short term relief they might provide short term in the beginning. They are also very dangerous for suicide, violence, illness and early death by about 25 years on average.

    Thus, I find it odd that you are here touting main stream psychiatry as if you were/are a Big Pharma sales rep! Maybe you are!

  • Yes like the woman played by Ingrid Bergman in the movie Gas Light when her new psychoapthic husband was out to make her appear crazy so he could find/steal the jewels her aunt left behind when this monster played by Charles Boyer killer the aunt.

    Sadly, psychiatry continues this evil, sick game by colluding with their fellow abusers to torture their victims with crazy making gas lighting and toxic drugs so both can profit at the victims’ expense.

    Sounds to me that Vegwellian is making quite a sales pitch for main stream psychiatry and the neoliberal agenda of GMO’s, toxic vaccines and all the other schemes of the current robber barons or 1% at the cost of countless lives that are not so privileged.

    At the same time, anyone not willing to be cheerleaders for this predatory agenda is vilified including those doctors seeking alternate means to avoid toxic main stream medicine with its selling sickness agenda to push statins, diabetes and other drugs.

    Vegwellian could even be a psychiatrist in disguise since the mantra pushed by her/him is the typical shallow kool-aid touted by psychiatry while smear campaigning anyone who differs from them.

  • Vegwellian,

    This is the pot calling the kettle black. I lost track of the many bogus claims you made about psychiatry and its bogus theories. Rather than showing a little humility when you were exposed, each time you just proceeded to a new version of the same lies and fraud.

    I have read many articles by Dr. Mercola and think he has a great deal of excellent health information on his site. But, he does expose junk science like the mental death profession stigmatizing children with bogus bipolar as the new targets for lethal neuroleptics in their never ending predation with Big Pharma on one and all.

    I really find it quite amazing how you can attack everyone else while totally lacking any recognition or admission of your total inconsistency, lack of any solid evidence for what you say and your demeans and demands for everyone else.

  • I suggest you read Dr. Marcia Angell’s The Truth About the Drug Companies to learn about all the corruption in so called evidence based medicine due to huge conflicts of interest.

    Also, see book, Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime, showing how medicine has gotten so corrupted by Big Pharma, it is even worse than the Mafia with psychiatry being the most corrupt due to lack of any real evidence for their DSM stigmas or bogus treatments. Much of their “evidence” is bogus studies with ghost written articles in journals while covering up all the life threatening side effects of their toxic treatments and refusing to publish negative studies. See the Paxil 329 study debacle.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the so called evidence base of psychiatry is total fraud, Big Pharma junk science!

    Dr. Joanna Moncrieff, a mainstream psychiatrist who has a current article on this site, has exposed the great social control aspect of psychiatry in that it medicalizes normal human problems, crises and reactions so they can rob people of all human/civil rights in the guise of mental health. She wrote about this in an article, “Psychiatric Imperialism.”

    Szasz was 100% correct!

  • You have yet to cite any credible evidence of your own spurious and questionable claims, so when you provide evidence maybe we will provide more than all the evidence cited already.

    And the bogus gene theories of bogus DSM stigmas came about because parents didn’t want to be blamed for their bad parenting, so you have that wrong too, but you are trying to vilify anyone who disagrees with your eugenics claims even if you have to invent a “theory.”

  • Again, Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has had to admit that the voted in stigmas like schizophrenia and bipolar are INVALID since there is no evidence behind them. And you keep citing your junk science pretense of proof about family genetics, etc. There is the book, Schizophrenia: A Scientific Delusion? by Dr. Mary Boyle you may wish to check out since there are tons of so called symptoms for this garbage can stigma like bipolar with many variations since they are so lacking in science or medicine.

    And Dr. Insel has also admitted that treatment with psychiatric drugs leaves much to be desired based on studies Bob Whitaker and Dr. Sandy Steingard posted on this web site. In many cases people do much worse in the long run on psych drugs which is why it was found that people in third world countries with similar symptoms tended to fully recover and lead full, productive lives unlike those preyed on with stigma and drugs by mainstream psychiatry in the U.S. who tended to become permanently disabled and unable to work/function normally. You might try reading Bob Whitaker’s books, Mad in America, Anatomy of an Epidemic among many others cited on this site.

    To pretend anyone who disagrees with you is an outlier, conspiracy theorist or whatever other insult you throw out is not conducive to an intelligent conversation. It’s obvious you have not done the research on many of your bogus claims like mental illness genes, but rather, you are merely reciting the kool-aid doled out to you by mainstream psychiatry continuing to profit from this horror show while destroying countless lives. I have no doubt psychiatry will keep making its bogus gene and other claims that you can mimic, but kindly don’t turn the tables on us and pretend we are the ones lacking science or knowledge about the topic because it is very clear that any member of MIA having read lots of the articles here could easily challenge your spurious claims. Your claims sound like they just came off a Big Pharma funded web site and I resent your trying to mislead people here with such gross misinformation.

  • You just cited the supposed evidence for the bogus mental illness genes and now when challenged, you invent another story or position about these false claims.

    I think you should follow your own advice about not pushing junk science and make sure the evidence is there before you try to force your opinions on others.

  • There is every reason to throw out the evil eugenics theories that have allowed psychopathic predators to prey on others who are less powerful and wealthy with the pretense that they have inferior genes or biology.

    This is exactly what the robber barons like Carnegie and Rockefeller did with psychiatry to prey on less fortunate people and condone the Nazi Holocaust. Many similar prejudiced people have tried to do the same with black people to justify racism.

    So, I find it odd that you would wish to uphold this monstrous agenda of the never ending waste of billions of dollars to keep searching for the nonexistent genes when it is well known that oppression, abuse of power, poverty, abuse, bullying, trauma and other negative social/environmental conditions cause great psychological distress.

  • AA,

    What has happened in many cases is when so called experts claimed those stigmatized with schizophrenia or ADHD claimed MRI’s found shrunken, faulty brains, it became apparent that the differences/changes were a result of the toxic drugs forced on the unfortunate victims and had nothing to do with any faulty brains. Again, like the bogus genes claims I cited above, psychiatry is so vicious it longs for the day it can prove their neverending predatory eugenics claims to justify their assaults on their many victims that often destroy their brains and lives.

    Dr. Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist, and called “the conscience of psychiatry” along with others like Dr. Fred Baughman exposed this heinous assault on humanity and on children in particular.

  • Vegwellian,

    Thanks for posting the total junk science of the fraudulent genes claims by psychiatry or AKA, the mental death profession with the pretense they are FACT. This is the type of thing posted on NAMI and other BIG PHARMA funded webs sites or parroted by others under their control. These bogus genes claims have been debunked as have the absurd gene studies supposedly proving genes for invented, voted in bogus stigmas like the latest bipolar fad fraud created to push the latest lethal drugs on patent. The twin and other studies used were laughable. See Dr. Peter Breggin’s Toxic Psychiatry, Dr. Jay Joseph’s The Gene Illusion and The Missing Gene, Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH, blog, “Transforming Diagnosis,” whereby he admits this past year there are no genes or any other evidence for DSM voted in stigmas forcing him to admit they are INVALID!! But, bogus genes claims for bogus, voted in DSM stigmas keep coming with no letup!

    Thus, I find your posting such garbage as the bogus gene claims of biopschiatry while trying to intimidate others based on their supposed pseudoscience or “conspiracy theories” (typical attack used by main stream psychiatry; when will you call us Scientologists, psychiatry’s greatest smear campaign for any real experts that dare challenge/expose them).

    Thank you for showing the quality of your own great expertise by repeating the fraudulent gene claims of biopsychiatry they have been making for the last hundred years with no results.

  • Vegwellian,

    I’ve been reading some of your comments and I’m reminded of a bully on the playground bossing everyone around as to the proper way to think and play.

    What you are pushing is the mainstream junk science of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/bought out NAMI, corrupt government hacks psychopathic cartel that has been debunked a zillion times in a zillion sources including this web site and the books by the creator of this web site, Robert Whitaker.

    There are also a ton of so called “survivors” of this evil, intraspecies psychopathic predation on humanity using the same old bogus eugenics theories used to create the Nazi Holocaust by the robber barons of that time; now, the only difference is that everyone but the 1% psychopathic malignant narcissists and their enablers/henchmen like psychiatry at the top are targets.

    I suggest you read the great book, Pseudoscience in Biological Psychiatry, by Dr. Alvin Pam and Dr. Colin Ross that expose the many, many false claims you are making about the latest bogus, evil eugenics claims of psychiatry for their junk science voted in DSM stigmas that even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has declared invalid since they lack any science or medical evidence whatever.

    You’ve attacked everybody and everything on this post and elsewhere as if you are some great expert when you are merely parroting mainstream psychobabble used to stigmatize and destroy people to push the latest lethal drugs on patent and target the less powerful for pernicious social control.

    So, though you are right that everyone has been pretty tolerant of your pretending you know better than anyone else here, I have to tell you that you don’t know what you are talking about in much of what you say. Therefore, it may prove helpful if you read a great deal on MIA and many expert books like Mad Science, Toxic Psychiatry, Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed., Pharmageddon, Rethinking Psychiatry, The Myth of the Chemical Cure and countless others exposing the deadly fraud and menace of biopsychiatry. You don’t even seem to be aware of all the controversy surrounding neuroleptics, SSRI’s and other toxic psych drugs. Did you know that many school/public shooters have been on these toxic drugs?

    I’m just posting this for any poor person that visits this web site and happens upon this post and thinks that your views represent the views of MIA or those posting here when the opposite is true for the most part.

    And where is your credible evidence? Many of us have been researching this topic for many years that had to be done outside the mainstream because psychiatry is so corrupt with its selling out to Big Pharma, participating in ghost written, fraudulent studies, promoting heinous lies about the useless, toxic drugs they dole out, its pretense of fraudulent chemical imbalances and bad genes to justify their life destroying stigmas and lethal “treatments,” having huge conflicts of interest and on and on. Yet, it would take tons of space and time to produce all of this information that is all over MIA when just calling your bluff of pretending to have the most expertise here is all that is necessary, so I call your bluff. Those at MIA are sadder but wiser, so most of us are not too impressed with Big Pharma funded NAMI/biopsychiatry diatribes that you have inflicted on us while attacking everyone else’s opinions here including the authors of this post.

    I’ll take the advice of the experts who wrote this post before your NAMI agenda any day of the week.

    Just for the record, I greatly disagree with just about everything you have written!

  • Darby,

    If you check out the beginning of the article, it goes on to say that they have used both drugs and different “behavioral interventions” to minimize or destroy certain painful, stressful memories in trauma survivors. What raises a red flag to me is their vagueness about their methods, which worked very well because you interpreted it as quite benign as a savvy long term survivor no less.

    But, those of us who know about main stream psychiatry know is it anything but benign and one can count on its so called “treatments” to be “brain disabling” and harmful for the most part as Dr. Peter Breggin exposed long ago.

    As you probably know, ECT is alive and well and growing by leaps and bounds now that SSRI antidepressants have been exposed as harmful and mostly worthless. Be careful what you wish for as the saying goes. And now there are the deep brain stimulation and transcranium magnetic brain stimulation, which are new forms of electroshock that can cause seizures, hearing loss and many other negative effects that are lied and denied by their pushers just like ECT and neuroleptics. Dr. Phillip Hickey did an extensive article on DBS at MIA and it was not very positive just like honest articles written about ECT show that it is worthless while causing brain damage, permanent loss of memory, career and other skills and other crucial assets for functioning often leading to suicide once the victims learn the truth like Ernest Hemingway and Sylvia Plath. The book, Doctors of Deception, exposes all the lies and fraud associated with ECT since a small group of ECT shock doctors headed by Max Fink have a monopoly on it and push their lies on either duped or complicit safety agencies like the FDA and so called patients.

    Also, you may know that lobotomy and similar horrors have been making a great comeback though called by other sneaky, more innocent sounding names like cingulotomy and other very dangerous brain operations that often leave the victims’ brains seriously damaged so they lose control of their ability to think/function, become incontinent, etc. Many of these “brain operations” are admitted failures or just plain butchery!

    I have long admired you as a very tough survivor with much to share with other survivors. I just thought I would suggest that you might want to consider psychiatry’s sordid history before assuming these wolves and sheep’s clothing are adopting nice safe new methods like EMDR that will solve all our problems.

    Toward the end of the article, the new mantra of blaming the victims for their trauma is included by perpetrating the BIG LIE that some people are more susceptible to trauma due to their bad genes, bad brains and the usual litany of lies of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel that have been disproven time after time. Most recently Dr. Joanna Moncrieff’s current blog on the front page of MIA now debunks the latest scam pretense about great genetic discoveries for “schizophrenia” that even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has admitted has no reliability or validity because there is no scientific, medical or other evidence behind this bogus, voted in stigma. Moreover, as Dr. Mary Boyle shows in her great book, Schizophrenia: A Scientific Delusion?, there are many different hodgepodges of a wide variety of disparate symptoms among those so labeled, so the pretense of finding the “missing genes” for their “gene illusion” per Dr. Jay Joseph is totally bogus ideology and not science to justify the greed and theft of all global resources by the current robber barons or 1%.

    If you think about it, how could they possibly say that some are more prone to trauma since some people don’t get it when exposed to the exact same experience when no unique individual person could possibly be exposed to the exact same experience(s) past or present as another individual, so this claim is just a way to destroy the credibility of PTSD or the only DSM diagnosis that didn’t use to blame the victims for their symptoms from combat, abuse, rape in wars, homes, work places, society and other war fronts where people have “normal responses to abnormal events.” That’s because war veterans and abuse/rape survivors under the leadership of trauma experts like Dr. Judith Herman, author of the classic, Trauma and Recovery, helped fight the battle to include PTSD in the DSM with Dr. Herman insisting that Complex PTSD should be added for long term traumatic exposure.

    Finally, I think it’s important to bear in mind that Francine Shapiro, Ph.D. was/is not a psychiatrist, but rather a psychologist. She discovered EMDR when walking through a park one day and found it helped her with her own stressful memories per the following web site.
    As you know, EMDR is a noninvasive therapy with no drugs, lobotomy, shock or other brain damaging treatments. And from what you say, EMDR does not wipe out important memories that may be crucial for one’s survival to avoid repetition, but rather, reduces their emotional impact and distress.

    http://www.emdr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=62

    For all the reasons I’ve cited here and many more for anyone who knows the history of biopsychiatry even from just reading Bob Whitaker’s books, it is little wonder the author of this article questioned the ethics of such a goal of wiping out one’s memories after researching it with various psychiatrists.

    I hope you don’t see this as a criticism, but rather, my concern that a very important survivor like you who is well aware of the problems with psychiatry does not get misled about psychiatry’s latest brain disabling “treatments.”

    Caveat Emptor!

  • Lloyd I. Sederer, MD, Medical director, New York State Office of Mental Health has written a complimentary testimonial for Dr. Thomas Szasz after a service by him and colleagues to honor this great man. Although most of the article is positive, at times very mainstream Sederer damns Szasz with faint praise or tries to make his theories/ideas of making freedom the ultimate guide untenable while citing absurd examples like dealing with a mental case 250 pound gorilla of a man alone.

    But, what I found most offensive is typical of Dr. Sederer’s posts and books; he spouts typical, decades old LIES like this gem:

    “What’s more, we now have indisputable evidence of major mental illnesses having neurological (as well as genetic and molecular) pathologies — unlike 50 years ago. And with that proof, neurologists still aren’t rushing to fill the shoes of psychiatrists!”

    I find such fraudulent claims from somebody in Dr. Sederer’s position despicable and outrageously dishonest/corrupt. Perhaps he is referring to the recent misrepresentation of the latest very expensive gene research results, which Dr. Moncrieff exposes above:

    “In the light of the much trumpeted claims that recent research has identified genes for schizophrenia, it is important to review the track record of this type of endeavor.1 Despite thousands of studies costing millions of dollars, and endless predictions that the genetics of schizophrenia would shortly be revealed, the field has so far failed to identify any genes that substantially increase the risk of developing schizophrenia.”

    Dr. Peter Breggin and Dr. Jay Joseph along with many others and several articles at MIA have debunked psychiatry’s bogus gene claims for what are now declared INVALID voted in stigmas in the junk science DSM even by Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH. Thus, how can genes be found for unreliable, invalid disorders voted in by consensus to push the latest most lucrative lethal drugs on patent, which are now the horrific neuroleptic drugs that Dr. Moncrieff has called The Bitterest Pill? Dr. Moncrieff has lamented the outrageous bogus explosion of bipolar “diagnoses” for minor problems that results in many more people taking lethal neuroleptic drugs that will cause many huge negative, toxic effects while reducing one’s life span an average 25 years while making them prone to early dementia per Dr. Grace Jackson!

    And to add insult to injury, I just read that most people stigmatized with bipolar end up losing their jobs within about five years by being fired due to the despicable lies and disease mongering perpetrated by main stream psychiatry to make anyone given this bogus stigma appear to be a deranged, dangerous mental case without their toxic drugs with bogus claims they will never recover, etc. Considering rape, abuse trauma victims are stigmatized as bipolar, such “treatment” is malpractice at its worst. Dr. David Healy exposes the sordid reasons why bipolar became the latest fad fraud which had more to do with pushing the neuroleptic and so called mood stabilizer toxic drugs when others were going off patent for prior fads of anxiety and depression in his great book, MANIA.

    Isn’t it time after about 100 years of lies and bogus claims of genetic causes for their invented, unproven “disorders” and especially their “sacred symbols” of bipolar and schizophrenia as their latest garbage can stigmas that these emperors wearing no clothes, wolves in sheep’s clothing and boys who cry wolf should be treated with the contempt they deserve and disciplined for committing fraud as well as the incompetent or dishonest publications that publish these never ending lies to keep the corrupt biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel making their billions by destroying countless lives?

    Once again, ideology and neoliberal capitalism/oligarchy trumps citizens’ rights to the truth and protection of their health and even worse the health of their children being destroyed by psychiatry with impunity with the bipolar stigma and neuroleptic drugs.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lloyd-i-sederer-md/thomas-szasz-md-radical-a_b_5744244.html?utm_hp_ref=health-news&ir=Health+News

  • Looks like psychiatry helped add to this violence definition so that they could falsely accuse everyone they fraudulently stigmatized as “mentally ill,” the most vicious, vile, violent speech of all, as the violent ones! The pot calling the kettle black!

    I think there comes a point when moral relativity goes too far. That is another problem with psychiatry in that supposedly no one has the right to judge whether things/people’s actions are good or evil, but rather, they are stigmatized as “mental illness.” And who is psychiatry kidding? They have vilified, stigmatized, tortured and falsely accused those they label as “mentally ill” on a par with Satan himself with all their vicious lies and false accusations of dangerousness, violence, psychotic and others against many trauma victims who are not any of these so they can profit from their suffering.

    I guess this could be considered violent speech, but I think cloaking evil, cruel agendas of social control, intraspecies predation and profiting by destroying others’ lives is the worst form of violence even if bogus pseudoscience language like the DSM and other junk science is used as a veneer for such evil.

  • Hi Jim,

    After reading your response, I felt somewhat bad in that it may have appeared that I was picking at straws, so I googled the term, “channeling” to see if I had overreacted when associating it with New Age people claiming to channel various wise gurus. Here is what my google search for “channeling” revealed:

    https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_enUS504US504&q=channeling

    As you can see, most if not all the entries on the first page on channeling have to do with communicating with various spirits, interpreting them, etc. I recall feeling somewhat creepy about many of these so called spirit guides with tons of books on this topic being promoted by various authors given my Christian background.

    I went back and re-read your article and checked your link to the Merriam-Webster definition and as you can see it is far different than google’s links to the term “channeling.”

    I hope you realize I am not trying to nitpick here. This may be a matter of our age difference in that I am somewhat older than you and the New Age and channeling of various spirits was a huge phenomenon a while back, but it seems to be less so now unless I am just less aware of it and don’t notice so much due to lack of interest. For this reason, the term, “channeling” probably didn’t have the same impact on you as it did on me initially. Reading your definition of channeling was helpful in reminding me of this alternative interpretation and your article does an excellent job of explaining how one can use this latter interpretation of channeling or substituting good habits for bad ones or sublimation to enhance one’s life and make it better.

    Actually, the term I have seen used a great deal lately is simply that of “habits” with a ton of books on that topic recently. In fact, I just bought another one that got great reviews called, Habits and Happiness by Braco Pobric, which promotes the idea that we are creatures of habit and quotes many highly regarded people, past and present:

    http://www.amazon.com/Habits-Happiness-Happier-Wellbeing-Changing/dp/1493662457

    “Everything you want to achieve in life–from a successful career, thriving relationships, improved health, or simply to increase your happiness and wellbeing–everything starts with habits. Everything!

    Habits and Happiness combines years of research by experts in the field of habits, neuroscience, traditional and positive psychology, and teaches you how to apply this new information in a very simple and practical way. This book will help you understand your habits: why you have them, why you can or cannot change them, and how they can work to help you live a great life.

    Implementing habitual behavior in accordance with this book will help you become happier and more successful, will improve your wellbeing, and will assist you to live the life you’ve always wanted to live.

    We can learn so much about ourselves by learning about our habits. Our wellbeing increases significantly when we understand the reasons we do certain things, when we learn how to change and introduce new habits if necessary, and when we apply that knowledge effectively in our lives. My goal is not to present a scientific research paper that few will understand, but rather to help you improve your wellbeing by introducing good new habits and changing bad old habits. At the same time I will provide the research supporting these ideas: ”

    William James, the father of psychology, stressing that it is crucial for people to develop good habits:

    “When we look at living creatures from an outward point of view, one of the first things that strike us is that they are bundles of habits.”

    Or Aristotle:

    “We are what we repeatedly do. Exellence then is not an act, but a habit.”

    Or Benjamin Franklin:

    “Your net worth to the world is usually determined by what remains after your bad habits are subtracted from your good ones.”

    Or Psychiatrist Dr. Jeffrey Schwartz:

    You Are Not Your Brain: The 4-Step Solution for Changing Bad Habits, Ending Unhealthy Thinking, and Taking Control of Your Life:

    Two neuroscience experts explain how their 4-Step Method can help identify negative thoughts and change bad habits for good.

    A leading neuroplasticity researcher and the coauthor of the groundbreaking books Brain Lock and The Mind and the Brain, Jeffrey M. Schwartz has spent his career studying the human brain. He pioneered the first mindfulness-based treatment program for people suffering from OCD, teaching patients how to achieve long-term relief from their compulsions.
    Schwartz works with psychiatrist Rebecca Gladding to refine a program that successfully explains how the brain works and why we often feel besieged by overactive brain circuits (i.e. bad habits, social anxieties, etc.) the key to making life changes that you want—to make your brain work for you—is to consciously choose to “starve” these circuits of focused attention, thereby decreasing their influence and strength.
    You Are Not Your Brain carefully outlines their program, showing readers how to identify negative impulses, channel them through the power of focused attention, and ultimately lead more fulfilling and empowered lives.

    I am happy to say that Dr. Schwarz recommends mindfulness and changing one’s brain by changing habits without the toxic drugs and other “treatments” of mainstream psychiatry.

    Your habit reversal training sounds similar to this. You speak of the importance of self control, but from what I’ve read, our will power if that is the same thing can be very limited at certain times if our will power has been tested or strained too much per many books on the topic. Also, studies show that our will power can be more or less effective given the time of day, how much we’ve had to exercise our will power already that day, how tired we are and many other factors:

    Willpower: Rediscovering the Greatest Human Strength by Dr. Roy Baumeister:

    http://www.amazon.com/Willpower-Rediscovering-Greatest-Human-Strength/dp/0143122231/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1409368411&sr=1-1&keywords=baumeister+willpower

    Dr. Baumeister sounds like you here:

    “Pioneering research psychologist Roy F. Baumeister collaborates with New York Times science writer John Tierney to revolutionize our understanding of the most coveted human virtue: self-control. Drawing on cutting-edge research and the wisdom of real-life experts, Willpower shares lessons on how to focus our strength, resist temptation, and redirect our lives. It shows readers how to be realistic when setting goals, monitor their progress, and how to keep faith when they falter. By blending practical wisdom with the best of recent research science, Willpower makes it clear that whatever we seek—from happiness to good health to financial security—we won’t reach our goals without first learning to harness self-control.”

    That’s why it is so important to establish those good habits that we can do almost mindlessly without inner argument like brushing our teeth even though tired at night, etc. I have also read that it takes about 30 days to establish a new habit, which I find to be pretty accurate.

    If I sound like a fanatic on this topic, I have had the misfortune of struggling with weight control since childhood, quitting smoking and other gems due to various stressors in my life as well as being born in another generation when such things were viewed quite differently. These struggles also allowed me to work full time while earning all the money necessary to complete three college degrees with honors. Since my parents didn’t believe in girls going to college or having careers I got to be the lucky one to pave the way in my family. Psychiatry also created the junk science DSM and sold out to Big Pharma after I earned my third degree making me wish I had been born in an even earlier time when things were not in such chaos and uproar. Did you ever see the Aviance (perfume) commercial about how women could bring home the bacon, cook it too and be gorgeous goddesses all the time with no problem and have it all?! Boy, were we ever sold a bill of goods! Of course, my young adult son has certainly kept me on my toes and up to date on various issues and even music, so I’m not living in a cave. Ha Ha

    Thus, I think all of these approaches using various words or definitions come down to pretty much the same thing: that changing self destructive habits or life styles is almost impossible unless we substitute uplifting, healthy, inspiring habits for positive change or channeling those negative energies into positive ones as you say. It’s like the parable in the N.T. whereby a man’s house is cleared of an evil spirit, but since it remains empty (i.e. he doesn’t fill it with good spirits, thoughts and actions), a more formidable group of nasty demons take over the house and the man is worse off than he was before. This can be applied in a metaphorical sense to our topic of changing bad habits into good ones.

    I realize the information on forgiveness may have seemed out of sync with this post. I was going to post it at the end of the first part of this post on forgiveness, but since you said you were doing a two part post on forgiveness I decided to wait until this second part to share this information not realizing this one wouldn’t focus so much on forgiveness, so I regret if it seemed out of place. I just thought you might want to know about the Stanford “forgive for good” program since it seems to be a successful program.

    Finally, once again, you’ve given me much food for thought and lots of inspiration and I thank you for that. As you can see, your two part post got me thinking about many different things for the better as usual.

    Take care.

  • Hi Jim,

    I was wondering if you had heard about the forgiveness program By Dr. Frederic Luskin of Stanford Univerity:

    http://learningtoforgive.com/about/

    http://learningtoforgive.com/9-steps/

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006251721X?ie=UTF8&tag=currentlyinde-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=006251721X

    http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/fred_luskin_explains_how_to_forgive

    Since I was familiar with the above work and your latest articles inspired me to continue the struggle against any lingering resentments or lack of forgiveness, I got a copy of this book for further inspiration and am trying to read it and take it in again. Dr. Luskin also has many YouTube videos about forgiveness available on the web and there are inexpensive copies of his books including the ones on forgiveness and stress at Amazon.

    I know what you mean by channeling, but a problem with this term is that it is identified with a great deal of New Age type people who claimed to “channel” spirit or voices from other worlds that they reveal to us.

    Am I right in thinking that your notion of channeling is along the lines of Dr. William Glasser’s Positive Addictions?

    http://blogs.psychcentral.com/adhd/2010/06/is-there-such-a-thing-as-positive-addiction-dr-glasser-thinks-so-but-do-you/

    (I am not recommending any of the bogus DSM stigmas in the above blog that contains the article).

    http://www.amazon.com/Positive-Addiction-Harper-Colophon-Books/product-reviews/0060912499/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R3U12IQUZ9YB8

    I am just sharing these sources with you in case you haven’t seen them.

    Your second part of your forgiveness article is very good and I believe that you are saying that if one wants to turn a troubled life or poor lifestyle habits around one has to “channel this energy” into more positive, wholesome, healthy things as substitutes for the old bad habits/behaviors.

    The book, The Pleasure Trap, does a good job showing how our old limbic brain hijacks us to make poor food choices rather than letting our more intelligent brains rule with healthy food choices.

    Since I wrote so much on my struggle with forgiveness in your last post, I will end by saying I really appreciate your devoting these last two posts to the topic of forgiveness and how to carry it out. I am sure that I am not alone in continuing the struggle with forgiving, so your posts were an inspiration to me to reconsider the whole issue while inspiring me to look further.

    And you had me when you quoted C.S. Lewis on the topic of forgiving because he always knows just the right and most convincing thing to say that is just about impossible to dispute or write off since he is such a spiritual giant. I also highly recommend his fantastic book, The Problem of Pain, which make me marvel at his pure genius while finding him so persuasive in just about everything he says. Unlike many priests and other supposed experts I’ve met, C.S. Lewis nails the “problem of pain” quite amazingly in my opinion.

    I also appreciate your struggle to come up with posts that involve typical human struggles without resorting to the bogus DSM and its very annoying labels and fables with even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, admitting their invalidity.

    I hope to hear more from you soon along with your great adventures with C.S. Lewis.

  • Wileywitch,

    You’re right that the article is difficult to read like that. I copied this from Psychiatric Times to make it more easily available for MIA people and in the process the paragraph divisions seem to have disappeared.

    You can access the article via the link at the end of my post and if you aren’t registered for this magazine, you can sign up and access such articles free.

    This is a great, inspiring article by a psychiatrist writing in 1996 who is horrified at the bogus biological paradigm hijacking psychiatry. He says it is/was psychiatry losing its mind and not the patients.

    Take care.

  • I would like to point out that Dr. Kaiser’s article was written in 1996 before the drugs he thinks work well were/are exposed to be useless but deadly like SSRI antidepressants as exposed in Kirsch’s The Emperor’s New Drugs and the horrific brain damaging/disabling neuroleptics that cause so much harm to the brain and body, those conned or forced to take them suffer many horrible physical ailments including obesity, metabolic syndrome, diabetes, heart problems, eye damage, kidney damage and tons of others along with a chemically lobotomized brain resulting in early death by an average of 25 years after living a destroyed, miserable life. As Robert Whitaker shows in his book, Anatomy of an Epidemic, the very rare cases of so called manic depression and many with schizophrenia went on to recover after one episode to lead normal lives. But, now that the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel has expanded these bogus stigmas to assault just about everyone on the planet from babies in utero to the elderly in nursing homes with women and children the main victims of these cowards, there is a growing epidemic of permanent disability and misery with SSI foisted on us tax payers so this oligarchy can continue to make its billions by destroying our lives and forcing us to pay for the damages as well in a true Orwellian Cowardly New World!

    But, except for such dated drug information, Dr. Kaiser’s protest against the biological psychiatry eugenics ideology that persists with Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, and his cohorts, is right on the mark when he exposes that it’s all about money and power to keep this vile, self serving gravy train goind.

  • A superb critique of psychiatry’s Big Pharma/DSM sellout by another conscientious objector!

    Commentary: Against Biologic Psychiatry December 01, 1996 | Bipolar Disorder, Cultural Psychiatry, Major Depressive Disorder

    By David Kaiser, MD

    As a practicing psychiatrist, I have watched with growing dismay and outrage the rise and triumph of the hegemony known as biologic psychiatry. Within the general field of modern psychiatry, biologism now completely dominates the discourse on the causes and treatment of mental illness, and in my view this has been a catastrophe with far-reaching effects on individual patients and the cultural psyche at large. It has occurred to me with forcible irony that psychiatry has quite literally lost its mind, and along with it the minds of the patients they are presumably supposed to care for. Even a cursory glance at any major psychiatric journal is enough to convince me that the field has gone far down the road into a kind of delusion, whose main tenets consist of a particularly pernicious biologic determinism and a pseudo-scientific understanding of human nature and mental illness. The purpose of this piece is not to attempt a full critique or history of this occurrence, but to merely present some of the glaring problems of this movement, as I believe significant harm is being done to patients under the guise of modern psychiatric treatment. I am a psychiatrist trained in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and I use both psychotherapy and medications in my approach to patients. I state these facts to make it clear that this is not an antipsychiatry tract, and I am speaking from within the field of psychiatry, although I find it increasingly impossible to identify with this profession, for reasons which will become clear below. Biologic psychiatrists as a whole are unapologetic in their view that they have found the road to the truth, namely that mental illnesses for the most part are genetic in origin and should be treated with biologic manipulations, i.e., psychoactive medications, electroconvulsive treatment (which has made an astounding comeback), and in some cases psychosurgery. Although they admit a role for environmental and social factors, these are usually relegated to a secondary status. Their unquestioning confidence in their biologic paradigms of mental illness is truly staggering. In my opinion, this modern version of the ideology of biologic/genetic determinism is a powerful force that demands a response. And when I use the word ideology here, I mean it in it’s most pernicious form, i.e., as a discourse and practice of power whose true motivations and sources are hidden to the public and even to the practitioners themselves, and which causes real harm to the patients at the receiving end. Biologic psychiatry as it exists today is a dogma that urgently needs to be unmasked. One of the surest signs that dogmatists are at work here is that they rarely question or attempt to problemitize their basic assumptions. In fact, they seem blissfully unaware that there is a problem here. They act in seeming unawareness that they are caught up in larger historical and cultural forces that underwrite their entire “scientific” edifice. These forces include the medicalization of all public discourse on how to live our lives, a growing cultural denial of psychic pain as inherent in living as human beings, the well-known American mixture of ahistoricism and belief in limitless scientific progress, and the growing power of the pharmaceutical and managed care industries. These self-proclaimed visionaries, oblivious to all of this, boast of real scientific progress over what they consider to be the dogma of psychoanalysis, which had up until recently reigned as psychiatry’s premier paradigm. Now, it is not my intention to defend psychoanalysis, which had its own unfortunate excesses, although I do use psychoanalytic principles in the kind of psychotherapy I do. However, it is quite clear to me that the grandiose claims of biologic psychiatry are wildly overstated, unproved and essentially self-serving. Biologic psychiatry has had its successes, particularly with recent antidepressants like Prozac and newer antipsychotic medications such as Clozaril. Medications can effectively improve depression, relieve severe anxiety, stabilize serious mood swings and lessen psychotic symptoms. These successes are real in that they improve the quality of life of patients who are genuinely suffering. But in reality, i.e., the reality of treating patients, medications have profound limitations. I know that if the only tool I had in treatment was a prescription pad, I would be a poor psychiatrist. The center of treatment will always need to be listening to and speaking with the patients coming to me. This means listening seriously to what they say about their lives and history as a whole, not merely listening for which symptoms might respond to medications. Although it seems astounding that I would have to state this, biologic psychiatrists as a whole really only listen to that portion of the patient’s discourse that corresponds to their biologic paradigms of mental illness. It is the nature of dogma that its practitioners hear only what they want to hear. So what are the limitations of biologic psychiatry? First of all, medications lessen symptoms, they do not treat mental illness per se. This distinction is crucial. Symptoms by definition are the surface presentation of a deeper process. This is self-evident. However, there has been a vast and largely unacknowledged effort on the part of modern (i.e., biologic) psychiatry to equate symptoms with mental illness. For example the “illness” major depression is defined by its set of specific symptoms. The underlying “cause” is presumed to be a biologic/genetic disturbance, even though this has never been proven in the case of depression. The errors in logic here are clear. A set of symptoms is given a name such as “major depression,” which defines it as an “illness,” which is then “treated” with a medication, despite the fact that the underlying cause of the symptoms remains completely unknown and essentially untreated. I have seen repeatedly that, for example, in the case of depression, once medications lessen the symptoms, I am still sitting across from a suffering patient who wants to talk about his unhappiness. This process of equating symptoms with illnesses has been repeated with every diagnostic category, culminating in perhaps one of the greatest sophistries psychiatry has pulled off in its illustrious history of sophistries, namely the creation of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (currently in its fourth incarnation under the name DSM-IV), the bible of modern psychiatry. In it are listed all known “mental disorders,” defined individually by their respective symptom lists. Thus mental illnesses are equated with symptoms. The surface is all there is. The perverse beauty of this scheme is that if you take away a patient’s symptoms, the disorder is gone. For those who do serious work with patients, this manual is useless, because for me it is simply irrelevant what name you give to a particular set of symptoms. It is an absolute myth created by modern psychiatry that these “disorders” actually exist as discrete entities that have a cause and treatment. This is essentially a pseudo-scientific enterprise that grew out of modern psychiatry’s desire to emulate modern medical science, despite the very real possibility that psychic pain, because of its existential nature, may always elude the capture of modern medical discourse and practice. Despite its obvious limitations, the DSM-IV has become the basis for psychiatric training and research. Its proponents claim it is a purely phenomenological document stripped of judgments and prejudices about the causes of mental illness. What in fact it has done is the defining and shaping of a vast industry of research designed to validate the existing diagnostic categories and to find ways to lessen symptoms, which basically has meant biologic research. Virtually all of the major psychiatric journals are now about this, and as such I find them useless to help me deal with real patients. Patients are suffering from far more than symptoms. Symptoms are the signs and clues to direct us to the real issues. If you take away the symptoms too quickly with medications or suggestion, you lose the opportunity to help a patient in a more profound way. As an aside, modern psychiatrists, because they have forgotten or dismissed the real power of transference, vastly underestimate the extent to which symptom reduction is caused by mere suggestion. Not that patients should be left to suffer needlessly from what are often crippling symptoms. Relief from symptoms is a part of treatment. Modern psychiatry would have us believe that this is all treatment should be. Meaning, desire, loss and death are no longer the province of the psychiatrist. In this process patients are reduced to something less than fully human, as they become an abstract collection of symptoms without meaning to be “managed” by technicians called psychiatrists. This is in the service of medical progress and enlightened scientific thought. The biologic psychiatrist will not make the mistake of imposing their value systems on patients like in the bad old psychoanalytic days. This is, of course, a sham. Modern psychiatry now foists on patients the view that their deepest and most private ills are now medical problems to be managed by physician-psychiatrists who will take away their symptoms and return them to “normal functioning.” This is more than a bit malignant. One of the dominant discourses that runs through the DSM-IV and modern psychiatry in general is the equating of mental health with “normal” functioning and adaptation. There is a barely concealed strain of a specific form of Utopianism here which blithely announces that our psychic ills are primarily biologic and can be removed from our lives without difficulty, leaving us better adapted and more productive. What is left completely out, of course, are any notions that our psychic ills are a reflection of cultural pathology. In fact, this new biologic psychiatry can only exist to the extent it can deny not only the truths of psychoanalysis, but also the truths of any serious cultural criticism. It is then no surprise that this psychiatry thrives in this country presently, where such denials are rampant and deeply embedded. I am constantly amazed by how many patients who come to see me believe or want to believe that their difficulties are biologic and can be relieved by a pill. This is despite the fact that modern psychiatry has yet to convincingly prove the genetic/biologic cause of any single mental illness. However, this does not stop psychiatry from making essentially unproven claims that depression, bipolar illness, anxiety disorders, alcoholism and a host of other disorders are in fact primarily biologic and probably genetic in origin, and that it is only a matter of time until all this is proven. This kind of faith in science and progress is staggering, not to mention naive and perhaps delusional. As in any dogma, there is no perspective within biologic psychiatry that can effectively question its own motives, basic beliefs and potential blind spots. And thus, as in any dogma, there is no way for the field to curb its own excesses, or to see how it might be acting out certain specific cultural fantasies and wishes. The rise and fall of biologic determinism in a culture likely has complicated and interesting causes, which are beyond the scope of this paper. A few comments will have to suffice. This is a culture increasingly obsessed with medical science and medical health as a sign of virtue. It is not surprising that our psychic ills would be pulled into this dominant medical discourse, essentially medicalizing our specific forms of psychic pain. It seems to me that modern psychiatry, in step with a culture which created it, assumes any suffering to be unequivocally bad, an impediment to the “good life” of progress, productivity and progress. It is now almost heresy in psychiatry to say that perhaps suffering can teach us something, deepen our experience, or point us to different possibilities. Now, if you are depressed or anxious, it has no real meaning, because as a biologic illness similar to say diabetes, it is separate from the world of meaning and merely is. Now any thoughtful person knows that something as fundamental as depression has meanings such as loss, facing mortality, unlived desires, lack of power or control, etc., and that these meanings will continue to exist even if Prozac makes us feel better. There is much more to life than feeling better or living without pain, and only a superficial and pathologic culture would need to deny this. Yet conclusions such as “depression is a chemical imbalance” are created out of nothing more than semantics and the wishful thinking of scientist/psychiatrists and a public who will believe anything now that has the stamp of approval of medical science. It seems to me that modern psychiatry is acting out a cultural fantasy having to do with the wish for an omniscient authority who, armed with modern science, will magically take away the suffering and pain inherent in existing as human beings, and that rather than refusing this projection (which psychoanalysts were better able to do), modern psychiatry has embraced the role wholeheartedly, reveling in its new-found power and cultural legitimacy. I would be remiss if I left out the obvious economic factors in psychiatry’s movement toward the biologic. Pharmaceutical corporations now contribute heavily to psychiatric research and are increasingly present and a part of psychiatric academic conferences. There has been little resistance in the field to this, with the exception of occasional token protest, despite its obvious corrosive and corrupting effects. It is as if psychiatry, long marginalized by science and the rest of medicine because of its “soft” quality, is now rejoicing in its new found legitimacy, and thus does not have the will to resist its own degradation. The fact that drug companies embrace and fund this new psychiatry is cause enough for alarm. Equally telling is a similar embrace by the managed care industry, which obviously likes its quick-fix approach and simplistic approach to complicated clinical problems. When I talk to a managed care representative about the care of one of my patients, they invariably want to know what medications I am using and little else, and there is often an implication that I am not medicating aggressively enough. There is now a growing cottage industry within psychiatry in advocating ways to work with managed care, despite the obvious fact that managed care has little interest in quality care and realistic treatment approaches to real patients. This financial pressure by managed care contributes added pressure for psychiatry to go down a biologic road and to avoid more realistic treatment approaches. What this means in real terms is that psychotherapy is left out. There has thus been a triple partnership created between this new psychiatry, drug companies and managed care, each part supporting and reinforcing the other in the pursuit of profits and legitimacy. What this means to the patients caught in this squeeze is that they are increasingly overmedicated, denied access to psychotherapy and diagnosed with fictitious disorders, leaving them probably worse off in the long run. It is quite depressing to listen to the discourse of modern psychiatry. In fact, it has become embarrassing to me. One gets the strong impression that patients have become abstractions, black boxes of biologic symptoms, disconnected from the narratives of their current and past lives. This pseudo-scientific discourse is shot through with insecurity and pretension, creating the illusion of objectivity, an inevitable march of progress beyond the hopeless subjectivity of psychoanalysis. Psychotherapy is dismissed and relegated to nonmedical therapists. I actually have no objections to real science in the field, if, for example, it can help me make better medication decisions or develop newer and better medications. But in general biologic psychiatry has not delivered on its grandiose and utopian claims, as today’s collection of medications are woefully inadequate to address the complicated clinical issues that come before me every day. This is all not terribly surprising given what I have outlined in this piece. There will be no substitute for the difficult work of engaging with patients at the level of their lived experience, of helping patients piece together meaning and understanding in the place of their pain, fragmentation and confusion. Patients these days are not suffering from “biologic illnesses.” What I generally see is patients suffering from current or past violence, traumatic loss, loss of power or control over their lives and the effects of cultural fragmentation, isolation and impoverishment that are specific to this culture at this time. How this manifests in any individual is absolutely specific; therefore, one should resist any attempt to generalize or classify, as science forces us to do. Once you go down the route of generalization, you have ceased listening to the patient and the richness of their lived experience. Unfortunately what I also see these days are the casualties of this new biologic psychiatry, as patients often come to me with many years of past treatment. Patients having been diagnosed with “chemical imbalances” despite the fact that no test exists to support such a claim, and that there is no real conception of what a correct chemical balance would look like. Patients with years of medication trials which have done nothing except reify in them an identity as a chronic patient with a bad brain. This identification as a biologically-impaired patient is one of the most destructive effects of biologic psychiatry. Modern psychiatrists seem unaware of what psychoanalysts know well, namely how powerful are the words that a patient hears from an authority figure like a psychiatrist. The opportunity here for suggestion, coercion and manipulation are quite real. Patients are often looking to psychiatrists for answers and definitions as they struggle with questions such as who am I or what is happening to me. Of course we all struggle with these questions, and the human condition is such that there are no definitive answers, and anyone who comes along claiming they have answers is essentially a fraud. Biologic psychiatry promises easy answers to a public hungry for them. To give a patient nothing but a diagnosis and a pill demonstrates arrogance, laziness and bad faith on the part of the psychiatrist. Any psychiatrist needs to be continually aware of the very real possibility that they are or can easily become agents of social control and coercion. The way to resist this is to refuse to take on the role assigned through cultural fantasy, namely the role of omniscient dispenser of magical potions. As a whole modern biologic psychiatry has enacted this role with particular vigor and enthusiasm. At the level of individual patients this means a growing number of overdiagnosed, overmedicated and disarticulated people less able to define and control their own identities and lives. At the level of our culture this has meant an impoverishment of the discourse around such questions as what is wrong with us, as “scientific” answers replace more potentially fruitful and truthful psychological and cultural questioning. If psychiatry is to regain any semblance of legitimacy and integrity, it must strip itself of false and hubristic scientific claims and humbly submit itself to the urgent task of listening to individual patients with patience and intelligence. Only then can we have any real sense of what to say back to them. The sole philosophic basis for this new psychiatry is the championing of empiricism above all other measures of truth. Something is valid only if it can be demonstrated through experimental method, otherwise it is disregarded or relegated to “subjective” experience, which is presumed to be inferior. Now, of course, this dominance of empiricism is not limited to psychiatry, and one can easily trace the invasion of the experimental method of the “hard” sciences into the “soft” or social sciences. On a larger cultural level this can be detected in the public’s infatuation with “studies,” statistics and so on. This hegemony of empiricism over other ways of thinking and knowing represents an unprecedented modern achievement which has thoroughly infiltrated the cultural psyche, to the point now where the average person believes easily the claims of the biologic psychiatrist. Now as is clear from my views already expressed, a social science dominated by empiricism is a vulgar science, and there is a vast tradition in philosophy from Plato to Nietzsche which in my view irrefutably demonstrates this. However this is well beyond the scope of this piece. Suffice it to say that modern psychiatrists, like all “scientists” these days, have no time for the basic philosophic questions that have engaged the most brilliant minds of the past. Who needs questions about virtue when there is important data to collect? These biologic psychiatrists never think to ask themselves whether their own precious methods are perhaps standing on very shaky ground, say their own disavowed prejudices about what constitutes the good life. Empiricism is one way of knowing, but certainly not the only or best way. Biologic psychiatrists often use the standards of empiricism to answer their critics, in effect saying that their claims are scientifically “proven” and thus unassailable, clearly a tautological argument. I would further add that in my view many of the claims of biologic psychiatry do not even hold up to their own standards of empirical science, for example their claims about the biologic and genetic basis of many mental illnesses. In my view, the methods of experimental science are inappropriate and misplaced when it comes to understanding the complexity of the human psyche, as they can only objectify the mind and remove subjectivity from the heart of human experience, thus creating an abstract entity in place of a human mind. It is no wonder that psychiatry declared the 1980s the decade of the brain instead of the decade of the mind. In their pursuit of the human brain they have quite literally lost their minds. One way to unmask the dogma that is biologic psychiatry is to ask the question what kind of human being is being posited as desirable, “normal,” or not disordered. Judging by the DSM-IV, it would be a person not depressed or anxious, without perversions or sexual “dysfunction,” in touch with “reality,” not alienated from society, adapted to their work, not prone to excessive feeling states and generally productive in their life pursuits. This is, of course, the bourgeois ideal of modern culture. We will all fit in, produce and consume and be happy about it. Anyone who dissents by choice or nature slips into the realm of the disordered or pathologic, is then located as such by medical science and is then subject to social management and control. Now, psychiatry has always provided this social function, as admirably shown by Foucault and others. I would submit, however, that modern psychiatry, under the guise of medical and “scientific” authority and legitimacy, has surpassed all past attempts by psychiatry to identify and control dissent and individual difference. It has done this by infiltrating the cultural psyche, a psyche already vulnerable to any kind of medical discourse, to the point where it is a generally accepted cultural notion now that, say, depression is an illness caused by a chemical imbalance. Now when a person becomes depressed, for example, they are less able to read it or interpret it as a sign that there may be a problem in their life that needs to be looked at or addressed. They are less able to question their life choices, or question for example the institutions that surround them. They are less able to fashion their own personal or cultural critique which could potentially lead them to more fruitful directions. Instead they identify themselves as ill and submit to the correction of a psychiatrist, who promises to take away the depression so they can get back to their lives as they are. In short, the very meanings of unhappiness are being redefined as illness. In my view this is a dismaying cultural catastrophe. I do not mean to suggest that psychiatry is solely to blame for this, given how wide a cultural shift this is. However, I do think that psychiatry has not only not resisted its role here, but actually has fulfilled it with considerable hubris. Thus in my view the whole phenomenon of biologic psychiatry is itself a symptom or acting out of a larger, underlying cultural process. Unhappiness and suffering are not seen as resulting from real cultural conditions; for example, the collapse of traditional institutions and the ever increasing hegemony of rampant consumerism in American culture. Nor is suffering seen in the context of what it means to exist as a human being in any historical period. Historical and existential discourse about unhappiness is increasingly supplanted by medical discourse, and biologic psychiatry has served as one of the major mouthpieces for this kind of pseudo-scientific and frankly pathetic medical discourse about what ails us. I am increasingly astonished about how unable the average patient is now to articulate reasons for their unhappiness, and how readily they will accept a “medical” diagnosis and solution if given one by a narrow-minded psychiatrist. This is a cultural pathologic dependence on medical authority. Granted, there are patients who do fight this kind of definition and continue to search for better explanations for themselves which are less infantilizing, but in my experience this is not common. There is a frightening choking off of the possibility for dissent and creative questioning here, a silencing of very basic questions such as “what is this pain?” or “what is my purpose?” Modern psychiatry has unconscionably participated in this pathology for its own gain and power. It is a moral, not scientific issue at stake here, and in my view this is why many astute Americans rightfully distrust this new psychiatry and its Utopian claims about happiness through medical progress. So what kind of psychiatry am I advocating here? First of all, I think it is unclear whether the field can extricate itself from its current infatuation with technology and its own power to use it. When one reads psychiatric journals now, one senses a dangerous giddiness about the field’s “discoveries” and “progress,” which in my view are wildly and irresponsibly overstated. All the momentum, which is mainly economically driven, is pushing psychiatry toward further biologism. Having said this, what I am advocating is a psychiatry which devotes itself humbly to the task of listening to patients in a way that other medical practitioners cannot. This means paying close attention to a patient’s current and past narrative without attempting to control, manipulate or define it. From this position a psychiatrist can then assist the patient in raising relevant questions about their lives and pain. The temptation to provide answers or false solutions should be absolutely avoided here. Medications are used judiciously for lowering painful symptoms, with considerable attention paid to the psychological effects of medication treatment. Diagnosis should play a secondary and small role here, given that little is known about what these diagnoses actually mean. Above all suggestion, coercion, normalization and control need to be assiduously guarded against, as these are natural temptations that arise out of the dynamics of power that exist between psychiatrist and patient. A more humane psychiatry, if it is even possible in today’s cultural climate, must recognize the powerful potential of the uses and abuses of power if it is not to become a tool of social control and normalization. As I have outlined in this piece, these abuses of power are by no means always obvious and self-evident, and their recognition requires rigorous thought and self-examination. The psychiatrist plays a particular role in cultural and individual fantasies, and an intelligent psychiatrist must be aware of the complexity of these fantasies if he is to act in a position outside these projections and fantasies. This requires real moral awareness on the part of a psychiatrist who wishes to act intelligently. What I am advocating for in outline form as stated previously are the minimal requirements necessary for the field of psychiatry to reverse its current degradation. What is essential at this time is for psychiatrists and other clinicians to speak out against the ideology known as biologic psychiatry.

    – See more at: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/commentary-against-biologic-psychiatry#sthash.c2hMQzJ7.dpuf

  • I must say that I found this post offensive because it seems that Michael was/is trying to be very provocative about Dr. Szasz in his presentation when he is writing for a critical or even antipsychiatry group who tend to admire those few heroes who exposed the truth about psychiatry and the so called mental “health” system at huge cost to themselves.

    The following article shows that psychiatry has not survived due to its great helping/healing capacity, but rather, due to the fact they sold out to Big Pharma and together made billions that helped buy politicians, the legal system and all the power for themselves that money can buy based on lies and fraud. Thus, this fascist psychiatry industrial complex or the therapeutic state that Dr. Szasz so brilliantly defined and exposed has nothing to do with health and everything to do with supporting the current 1% robber barons at the horrific expense of the majority subjected to the worst kinds of social control, brain/body destruction in the guise of health/help and the violation/robbery of all human, civil and constitutional rights.

    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/05/how_a_scientifi071931.html

    I don’t think it was necessary to make such a big deal of Dr. Szasz’ suicide for those of us who did not know because doing so creates the type of circus that has gone on with the death of Robin Williams while the decision to end one’s life can be based on very rational, well thought out reasons based on the pros and cons and not the so called “mental illness” the mental death profession pretends so they can impose their own form or torture/murder instead for profit and power with the pretense of concern and help. But, I think Szasz did pretty well in the media when he died and the fact his many books stay in print and keep selling shows that people brainwashed, deceived and horribly betrayed by modern biopsychiatry and its bogus, invalid stigmas and useless, poison drugs are grateful for support and validation from these noble old timers with a conscience like Dr. Szasz, Dr. Peter Breggin, Dr. Loren Mosher, Dr. Paula Caplan, Dr. Stuart Kirk, Dr. David Cohen and many others when they begin to see through this arrogant fraud. Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, says all DSM stigmas voted in by consensus like ADHD and bipolar are 100% fraud to push the latest lethal, lucrative drugs and other forms of lobotomy on patent. Dr. Baughman claims that such actions by psychiatry constitute the worst medical crimes against humanity ever since children have become the major targets for this vile brain damage demolition enterprise. Psychiatry instigated the Nazi Holocaust with its horrific eugenics agenda they continue today in the guise of genetics research to blame the victims for social oppression, greed induced poverty, growing inequality, racism, sexism and many other environmental and social ills. As practice for the Holocaust psychiatry gassed to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill” or otherwise useless eaters BEFORE Hitler came to power. In fact, Hitler praised psychiatry’s eugenics theories in his infamous book, Mein Kampf before he got involved in politics! It was psychiatry that persuaded Hitler to move the gassing apparatus from mental hospitals to the concentration camps with such “doctors” making selections for work or immediate death and even more horrific “scientific” experiments on twins like those of Mengele just as is done today in the guise of science and “mental health.” Also, psychiatry kept killing patients even after the war ended until they were forced to stop doing it openly by the Nuremburg Trials, Catholics and others opposing their psychopathy and malignant narcissism. Experts who conducted the Nuremburg Trials acknowledged that without psychiatry, the Holocaust would never have happened. So, obviously, people never learn when it comes to “snakes in suits” or demons tempting us in different guises/disguises.

    So, when a dubious field like psychiatry has the whole power of a corrupt industry like Big Pharma with their billions and equally corrupt politicians and regulatory agencies with the foxes guarding the hen houses with revolving doors, I don’t think that psychiatry’s supposed success can be attributed to Szasz’ failure. Anyone challenging this Goliath is attacked and discredited viciously as a Scientologist and other garbage with tons of Big Pharma money to destroy careers and terrorize others into silence just as they do with their so called “patients” on behalf of their fellow abusers in power. Psychiatry also plays the role of enabling the outer pretense of a democracy while using the bogus DSM stigmas to attack, discredit, isolate, terrorize, institutionalize, lobotomize and all their other horrors in the guise of mental health just like Soviet Russia and other fascist states pretending to be democracies. So, when Dr. Szasz advocates for freedom while psychiatry’s role is to violate any citizen’s every individual, human, democratic civil right using their fraudulent biopsychiatry paradigm as a cover while also helping Big Pharma and others to make billions, it isn’t hard to see who would/will “win,” but I guess that depends on what one sees as “winning.” Though one may “win” in this rat race, the winner is still a rat. As Guns ‘n Roses sang, “welcome to the jungle….”

    I think Dr. Szasz did win and succeed because he left his brilliant thoughts behind in his books and other work and all the lives he touched and saved like Dr. Peter Breggin, the conscience of psychiatry, with their great thoughts, compassion, wisdom and exposure of “psychiatry: the science of lies” and “toxic psychiatry” to help victims to unbrainwash themselves and become survivors/escapees of this horrific plague on humanity! Bob Whitaker’s books have been life savers for many as well as he exposed the truth about the epidemic psychiatry created rather than healing anything.

    There is the story of a young boy throwing star fish back into the sea that he finds on the beach. An old man comes along and chastises him on such a futile enterprise since the boy can’t save the huge number of starfish there. The boy responds that it matters to the starfish he is able to save. The same mentality can be applied to those saved from the Holocaust or whenever a human being decides to do the decent thing rather than the evil or expedient thing. Sadly, with the decline of the best of religion, many people have never even learned the basic ethics of the golden rule and other necessities for a decent civilization. I agree with Seth Farber that there is the hijacked Constantinian Christianity and that of Jesus and his followers which is another version of the therapeutic state versus freedom, compassion, wisdom and enlightenment.

    I have said elsewhere that I used to feel somewhat grateful that I wasn’t born during the Nazi Holocaust and other horrible times when in reality the fact that psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s when they decided to “dance with the devil” as one APA president with lots of lucrative Big Pharma ties said to justify the destruction of so called patients makes me realize that psychiatry just continues its usual horrific crimes against humanity unabated in one guise or another whether it is state enforced witch hunts, Inquisitions and other fascist abuses just as Dr. Szasz wisely exposed, so he reminds us to beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing and other Trojan horses pretending to help during all these “times that try our souls.”

    Thank you for posting here, but again, I am offended by some of your post due to my great admiration and respect for Dr. Thomas Szasz. I think you could have been a bit more sensitive and respectful of your readers and I am still not sure I get your message or overall point other than to discredit Dr. Szasz, which I think failed miserably because you are comparing apples and oranges or using a rigged system with the so called “winner” already all too well established to tolerate any competitors or critics.

    I appreciate your writing here because your piece gave me much food for thought. Based on what you have added in your comments, perhaps I have misunderstood your analysis of Szasz. I agree with much of what Seth Farber says in that the power elite get to create the accepted version of the so called “truth” or “reality” they wish to prevail just like the winners get to write the history books. It doesn’t make it so!

  • This article is superb in that it reports the very hard hitting truth about the abuse of children with bogus, INVALID psychiatric stigmas to push lethal, brain/body damaging drugs without mincing words or sugar coating it! It is encouraging that some of the psychiatrists and other mental health workers acknowledged that poisoning children/teens as a supposed remedy for heartbreak from huge losses of parents, family, homes and so much more is gruesome to say the least.

    The fools that wax poetic about how helpful these toxic poison drugs are show their gross ignorance, lack of empathy/conscience and inability to deal with these kids in a humane, mature, intelligent way. And one must bare in mind that most if not all so called foster parents get money to do this job, so their forcing drugs on these kids to make them more easily controlled zombies as in nursing homes makes this blood money! Plus, the doctors in the article admit the drugs may work for two weeks to restrain some behaviors if they even do that, but are mostly useless for this purpose overall while causing huge harm to the brains/health of these children/teens.

    And children already suffering such loss really need to be made obese, incontinent, shaky, manic, aggressive, suicidal, insomniacs and all the other horrible things that happed to those forced on toxic, useless psych drugs.

    The original perpetrators creating the DSM III and selling out to Big Pharma like Robert Spitzer, ed., and his pals for greed, profit, power, status, malignant narcissism/psychopathy and their own obvious inhumanity should have their own Nuremburg Trials. Once this crime against humanity occurred, it was only a matter of time before the Joseph Biederman’s came along and created the child drugging epidemic by selling out to Johnson & Johnson and other Big Pharma greed by single handedly creating the bogus child ADHD and bipolar epidemics with the goal of pushing toxic neuroleptics.

    This whole despicable enterprise shows that the U.S., its legal system, politicians, doctors and the medical profession and society as a whole have lost their moral compass if they ever had one.

    I think the fact that such an article has been written and published shows that things may be looking up in terms of educating the pubic and would be victims about this evil death trap as more and more people see the truth about Toxic Psychiatry and Mad Science.

    I look forward to seeing the second part of the article.

  • Many have been inspired by The Paradoxical Commandments below. I like the ones associated with Mother Teresa that end with it’s between you and God and them anyway.

    The Paradoxical Commandments
    by Dr. Kent M. Keith

    People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered.
    Love them anyway.

    If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish ulterior motives.
    Do good anyway.

    If you are successful, you will win false friends and true enemies.
    Succeed anyway.

    The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow.
    Do good anyway.

    Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable.
    Be honest and frank anyway.

    The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest men and women with the smallest minds.
    Think big anyway.

    People favor underdogs but follow only top dogs.
    Fight for a few underdogs anyway.

    What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight.
    Build anyway.

    People really need help but may attack you if you do help them.
    Help people anyway.

    Give the world the best you have and you’ll get kicked in the teeth.
    Give the world the best you have anyway.

    © Copyright Kent M. Keith 1968, renewed 2001

    Version associated with Mother Teresa:

    People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered;
    Forgive them anyway.
    If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
    Be kind anyway.
    If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true friends; succeed anyway.
    If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
    Be honest and frank anyway.
    What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
    Build anyway.
    If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
    Be happy anyway.
    The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
    Do good anyway.
    Give the world your best anyway.
    You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God;
    It was never between you and them anyway.

  • Hi James,

    Great article and especially relevant for me at this time and always. I’ve struggled with the “forgiveness” issue many times due to great harm perpetrated by evil people against me and loved ones who could be “diagnosed” with malignant narcissism and/or psychopathy.

    Here is another interesting view:

    http://www.luke173ministries.org/

    Another confusing issue is how evil, abusive, dishonest people and/or fools are treated in the Bible and other religious texts in that others are told to cut them off, avoid them, have nothing to do with them and many other negative actions against them. And the bottom line is that hypocritical society often shuns people who step out of line with drugs, alcohol, sex or other supposed taboos though they may be guilty themselves privately.

    Moreover, Satan and his cohorts in crime are supposedly condemned to hell forever. At least metaphorically because as C.S. Lewis claims, people choose hell as he shows in his book, The Great Divorce, and other works. Lewis was a great admirer of George MacDonald, a preacher, who ran into trouble because he believed all people would ultimately be saved. Thus, there are many views about eternal punishment from one’s earthly enemies and God.

    Another difficult issue is when evil or psychopathic people will not only refuse to acknowledge the harm they do, but given their sadistic nature, duping delight and lack of conscience, they gloat over the harm they’ve done. Thus, they certainly are not seeking forgiveness, but rather, express outrage that they’ve done nothing to forgive if offered forgiveness and/or even attempts to reconcile. They are excellent at turning the tables on their victims and blaming them as Dr. George Simon points out in books I cited on your other posts as well as his web site on manipulative, overly aggressive people.

    Here is a question I have pondered when considering forgiving evil people with no conscience. Does God forgive Satan? Are we supposed to forgive Satan? How can you forgive someone or something that is considered totally evil to the point of being damned to hell forever? Did you ever see the great movie, The Exorcist? Should the demon(s) possessing the young girl and trying to kill the exorcists be forgiven? I know these may sound like stupid questions, but where is the dividing line if any in forgiveness? I do know that evil (psychopathic/narcissistic) people can destroy people almost completely psychologically via psychological abuse, violence, smear campaigns, gas lighting and other vicious mobbing/bullying tactics to the point the victims are mere shells of their former selves without any physical blood on their hands. Often, such victims are even driven to suicide. The great book, Stalking the Soul, and the movie, Gas light, with Ingrid Bergman and Charles Boyer are excellent examples of this. And another question is that if somebody is so deranged as to be capable of such evil to these extremes or like Ted Bundy, the serial killer, it seems that forgiveness is almost a moot issue though I did see somebody forgive the Green River serial killer on TV because he said God commanded him to do so. It almost seems that “forgiving” such unrepentant people is condoning evil.

    Of course, there is the “hate the sin, not the sinner” command, but I find it a very difficult ethical struggle. And because Christian and other churches themselves have been the source of very unethical actions from their beginnings to the present including the recent pedophile scandals, I no longer blindly follow any supposed gurus. At the same time, C.S. Lewis made it clear that though one must forgive, that did not mean that the murderer should not be hung if that was the required punishment by law as would be the case with any crimes and their corresponding punishments. And the reason C.S. Lewis makes such a great spiritual guide is that he is very, very honest and humble about his own shortcomings and belief he fell very short of the mark quite often!

    I continue to grapple with these issues as many others do and I can’t say I have any definitive answers. My current view is when one continues to hate an evil doer who has done them much harm, it causes the hater much harm in terms of ill health, bitterness, negative impact on other relationships and many other unintended consequences, so I think it is important to continue the struggle to forgive though one has to do it repeatedly when angry feelings rise up due to ongoing negative consequences and losses due to the perpetrator’s actions. I believe the Buddha said that hating another person is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die. Or, as Buddy Hackett said, “While your stewing in anger, they’re out dancing,” which can be all the more maddening to think about, but also motivating.

    Despite the fact that I think the struggle to forgive is worth it, I do not believe reconciliation or contact with such evil people who are hardest to forgive or even be around once you see through them is possible or recommended since they are too harmful to their targets. Obviously, I am not talking about times when we inadvertently hurt each other due to inattention, selfishness, disagreements or anger periodically in an overall decent relationship because we are all in need of forgiveness for such human failings.

    I like others have found it helpful to read some of the Holocaust literature and the works of Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mendela as well as Viktor Frankl and Corrie Ten Bloom to learn how people in the worst of situations survived and decided that forgiveness was the only way forward for everyone involved and/or they had to do it to obey God, so they did it and helped others do it.

    I was glad to see you quoted C.S. Lewis in your great article as well as others. You answered the question I posed on your last post about your progress with C.S. Lewis in this post. I’m very glad to see that you appreciate C.S. Lewis as I and so many others do. I will use your article as another great, inspiring source to continue my own rocky forgiveness path.

    As you can see, I didn’t jump to respond to this post because I wasn’t sure I wanted to respond to this thorny issue and if I did, I wanted to give it a great deal of thought since I don’t see myself as a great model of virtue in this area though I continue to try very hard!

  • Peter,

    This is an excellent post and I greatly appreciate it. I feel increasingly demoralized to see new “studies” about the supposed 108 genes associated with schizophrenia or the supposed genes associated with all the 5 major “mental illnesses” like the latest fad fraud bipolar that is used for serial killers, domestic violence/rape victims and other absurdities. It was well known this was a garbage can stigma by the creators of DSM III led by the malignant narcissist Robert Spitzer when psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma because Freudian analysis was waning.

    Thus, your latest post is very positive and hopeful. You talk about a growing revolution. I hope you write another post soon explaining any such gains in sanity despite the insanity of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/Government Industrial Complex. Yet, the NIMH in the U.S. under the ongoing ideology of Dr. Thomas Insel and his cohorts are much enthused about his big brain and other bogus blaming the brain projects. There was some hope when he admitted that DSM stigmas are invalid in the article, Transforming Diagnosis, on his NIMH blog, but it’s back to business as usual with the latest bogus gene claims for bipolar and schizophrenia touted by Insel and his cohorts. It doesn’t look too promising in the U.S. for sure given this agenda. One positive thing I’ve read is that many experts have been fighting the great brain project in Great Britain. Have you been part of that?

    I look forward to reading more of your great, uplifting posts in the future.

  • Steve,

    You nailed it! It is obvious this is a puff piece or infomercial for the usual bogus claims of the supposed great necessity of more psychiatry to deal with the increased huge global burden of “mental illness” they must fight just like cancer to save lives. As anyone who has had to fight for funding knows, the greater and more critical/important the need as well as having increased participants with special emphasis on children no less, the more funding is required goes the usual pitch and often granted. And the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel are experts in promoting their life destroying agenda for greed, profit, power and status in the guise of health. The fact they prey on children the most in modern times with their latest eugenics agenda exposes them for their total lack of conscience, ethics, empathy, decency or anything else that makes one human.

    However, they seem to ignore Dr. Thomas Insel’s blog, “Transforming Diagnosis,” when he acknowledged that “other” medical specialties were making huge progress in curing diseases and saving lives while psychiatry’s record of such success was dismal and sorely lacking for the last 100 years. This was when he acknowledged the DSM is a total INVALID fraud with no science, evidence or anything medical behind its voted in stigmas to collude with Big Pharma to push the latest lethal drugs on patent. Of course, anyone doing the least amount of research about psychiatry has been well aware of that for decades, so Insel had to come up with the new con of bad “brain circuits” to hoodwink the public. In the meantime, I’m seeing more and more “studies” claiming the schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, ADHD, autism and other supposed genes of these invented “disorders.” These are the same bogus claims made for the last hundred years debunked by those like Dr. Jay Joseph in books like The Missing Gene and The Gene Illusion, which shows they also have no shame and engage in constant pathological lying. It’s not hard to see that these are all traits of psychopaths.

    http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2013/transforming-diagnosis.shtml

    Here is an article on the progress in heart disease to back of Insel’s claims about progress in other specialties here:

    http://www.livescience.com/47425-heart-disease-death-hospitalization-decline.html?cmpid=558191

    Thus, though psychiatry likes to boast about its great importance to everyone’s health and survival and their great growing burden, as you say, Bob Whitaker nailed it when he exposed the real reason behind the huge budget busting growing epidemic of disability and death unleashed by the mental death profession!

    Thus, they should not be bragging about the great increase in their numbers of so called patients because the number keeps growing as they con more so called patients into their death traps with life destroying stigmas, brain damaging/disabling “treatments,” and more forced treatment. It’s not like all their so called patients have sought them out, so they should be seen as more like jailers running prisons in the guise of “mental health” as many experts have pointed out. Those visiting them for life problems are routinely betrayed with a bogus bipolar stigma and a lethal cocktail of drugs as they blame their victims for any crisis, abuse, loss, bullying, mobbing, poverty, being the wrong sex or color and other traumatic experiences while lying and denying them at the same time by claiming they are brain diseases.

    World citizens need to unite and fight the growing menace of the psychopathic 1% globally if they hope to avoid/change this growing path of destruction. This is especially true as the U.S. and other so called democracies become increasingly fascist, authoritarian, militant and power hungry with psychiatry serving as the current gestapo SS!

  • Per the link below, Robin Williams’ wife sent a news release that he was suffering the early stages of Parkinsons disease.

    So much for all the mental death disease mongering “experts” trying to use this and other crises and tragedies to push for more money and forcing mental death stigmas and drugs in the guise of treatment for everyone on the planet except the 1% psychopaths hijacking the globe.

    Another speculation is that given most if not all psych drugs cause brain damage and Parkinson type damage, it wound not be surprising to find that Williams took some or many of psychiatry’s toxic drugs for so called depression that brought or worsened many of his symptoms. Dr. Healy has shown that antidepressants (not to mention Xanax or booze in a pill) can easily drive people to drink and many have reported just that on his Risk.org web site).

    When all is said and done, the mental death profession did Williams far more harm than good since they are the ones who demonized and tormented those with addictions to push their bogus multibillion drug/alcohol treatment industry while hijacking the free 12 step groups as their great program though results of such so called treatment are increasingly dubious. Many experts are going back to the common sense theories that people are driven to drink due to excess stress, trauma, unbearable powerlessness in horrible situations like work/domestic/school bullying and mobbing, etc. Dr. Lance Dodes, author of The Heart of Addiction and Breaking Addiction brings back common sense by showing how one can easily become addicted to drugs/alcohol when trapped in seemingly no win situations he helps people explore to escape such death traps.

    So, not only was the mental death profession useless to Williams, but also, helped to drive him over the edge as he repeated AA slogans of self loathing, labeling, contempt and self blame enough to cause anyone to be depressed and wanting to self harm as those around the so called monster addict add fuel to the fire by blaming all their woes on the so called addict or new scapegoat.

    There has been speculation that Williams was bipolar and it would be no surprise IF he had been so labeled since anyone with an addiction is now automatically given this bogus fad fraud stigma per Jill Litrell on another MIA post. Those with “depression” are converted by fiat or due to the toxic effects of useless but deadly SSRI’s, benzos and other psych drugs to push the latest lethal billion dollar drugs on patent: neuroleptics and epileptic drugs fraudulently misnamed mood stabilizers by drug companies “repurposing them” per Dr. David Healy in his great book, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder.

    I have been totally furious and disgusted to see all the mental death disease mongerers pretending to feel such loss and sadness about this tragic death and pushing for more of their evil, horrific life destroying stigma and poisoning in the guise of treatment. It is all the more vile and repulsive while they treat most they encounter like objects to be stigmatized and drugged within minutes for greed, power, profit and status and sent on their way without a shred of concern for their real problems, suffering or humanity. And any questions or resistance brings out the worst viciousness from these supposedly concerned, helpful mental death experts. I won’t deny I am very angry at all the suffering caused by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel created ONLY for profit and social control to create the current horrific fascist therapeutic state that has made life hell for so many including even wealthy, powerful people like Williams.

    http://www.salon.com/2014/08/14/robin_williamss_wife_reveals_beloved_actor_had_parkinsons/?source=newsletter

  • http://theconversation.com/cabaret-of-dangerous-ideas-antidepressants-are-not-overprescribed-30181?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+8+August+2014+-+1836&utm_content=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+8+August+2014+-+1836+CID_996e5320d7ef3248a0744b952cac3200&utm_source=campaign_monitor_uk&utm_term=Cabaret%20of%20Dangerous%20Ideas%20antidepressants%20are%20not%20overprescribed

    Where does one start with the above outrageous, deceitful, dangerous, bogus claims about antidepressants not being over prescribed and how they can cure the so called disease of depression that is far more deadly than cancer and other feared diseases globally!? Talk about malignant narcissism and hubris!!

    What is so outrageous and egregious is that a so called psychiatrist could write such a fraudulent article given all the evidence proving the huge harm done by antidepressants including suicide and violence much in the news lately and the fact they are no better than placebo for the most part per Irving Kirsch and many others.

    This is another infomercial by another sociopathic psychiatrist in a grossly dishonest attempt to negate all the articles that have recently been coming out exposing the truth about the huge harm done by theses toxic drugs while being totally useless for the junk science, voted in stigma of depression used to medicalize typical human stressors, crises, losses and traumatic events that psychiatry (AKA the mental death profession) refuses to even acknowledge while blaming the brains and other inferiority of their victims’ supposed lesser ability to cope with stress, bad genes, chemical imbalances and other out and out lies.

    Such Big Pharma ads make me want to holler.

  • Dr. Hickey,

    Thank you for another hard hitting, enlightening article. Based on what you say, what do you think of the following article about women torn between their “crucial” antidepressants and the “minor” risk to their unborn children when pregnant? It seems to me I have read some pretty horrifying things about birth defects and women actually killing their children/family members or otherwise going bonkers when on such psych drugs. Think Andrea Yates?

    Anyway, this might be a good topic for a future article since the risk of these dangerous drugs to mother and child is treated so lightly by the doctor consulted in this article and minute risk acknowledged when compared to the supposed negative impact on the baby with an anxious, depressed mother. I think the fact the woman’s first baby died says it all! I seem to recall Dr. David Healy writing about the lethal effects of Paxil on babies when taken during pregnancy. Moreover, the fact that these drugs are supposedly little better than placebo with many toxic side effects says it all. Do you think this is really a Big Pharma puff piece as part of the move to push antidepressants as very beneficial with minor if any side effects like the puff piece you critique here?

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/08/the-dilemma-of-the-depressed-mother-to-be/374899/

  • B,

    Ellen provides only a very limited list of the many, many horrible iatrogenic effects of the lethal neuroleptics, lithium and many other psych poisons.

    For example, I wonder how she would like tardive dyskinesia with her tongue/mouth or torso or other body parts jerking around while having no control to stop it while finding it incurable. Or having liver damage to the point of death. Incontinence. Obesity, Diabetes. Chemical lobotomy effects. Destroyed sex life. Inability to perform in one’s career, parenting and other duties. Loss of job, marriage, family, relationships, friends, financial security due to deadly effects of life destroying stigmas like the latest character assassination of bogus bipolar so the mental death profession can make a literal killing at their victims’ expense and on and on.

    I think if most would by psych drugs victims were told the truth about ALL of the risks of deadly, useless psych drugs for bogus, Big Pharma/psychiatry invented/voted in stigmas pretending to be diseases, they would run like hell from any such threats to their lives.

    This is why the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/NAMI/government cartel must lie to the public and coerce their victims into a nightmare horror story of lies, deceit and terror tactics to inflict this evil on so many citizens or I should say former citizens once such “patients” are robbed of all human, civil, democratic rights in the guise of mental health. Just more evidence psychopaths have hijacked the globe as their deadly greed and predation on normal humans from cradle to grave continues to grow by leaps and bounds in their latest human holocaust.

  • Notice the not so innocent Liisa thinks she has completed her bogus demolition enterprise against Colin Ross based on ridicule, lies, innuendo, nastiness, character assassination and trying to paint him as an ignorant buffoon when the opposite is true, typical of Big Pharma/psychiatry trolls. And she has been trying to do the same thing to me with supposed guilt by association since I have commended Dr. Colin Ross as have many other real experts.

    Anyway, Liisa’s tactics can be found on the great Tim Field’s web site, Bullyonline, and her latest ploy is the feigning victimhood and turning the tables on the real victim of the bully’s abuse to make the victim appear to be the villain of the piece.

    Why am I so angry? Now, Lissa becomes the bullied!

    Once one is on to such tactics, they no longer work.

    Again, Dr. Colin Ross is very highly regarded for his books, The Trauma Model and Pseudoscience In Biopsychiatry, so it is not great surprise as to why Big Pharma/psychiatry trolls would wish to discredit and smear campaign him.

  • Hermes,

    Here’s an article by Bob Whitaker about the great cover up of the cognitive and functional decline of those taking neuroleptics by Dr. Nancy Andreasen and many others so they could still blame the victims for the effect of their toxic drugs and continue to force these poisons on them in the guise of medicine:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201102/andreasen-drops-bombshell-antipsychotics-shrink-the-brain

    Perhaps this particular drug study was done in phases or the brain damage/atrophy caused by these drugs was only admitted later when those like Andreasen dropped the big bomb of truth as explained by Bob Whitaker above.

    You are confused because lies and cover ups are meant to confuse and obfuscate from the truth.

  • Liisa,

    Your dredging this minor thing up on Colin Ross to discredit and ridicule him is obviously because he has exposed the truth about psychiatry. And I watched the video you cited and it appeared that he demonstrated what he claimed and you have no proof it is pseudoscience. Anyway, who cares about such a minor, irrelevant thing?

    At the same time, Ross and others including me have tons of proof that main stream DSM/toxic drugging psychiatry is the real pseudoscience and corrupted to its rotten core making billions while destroying countless lives. Also, it’s obvious that you and E. Silly are trying to side track us from such “inconvenient truths” with smear campaigns, ridicule, creating chaos, instigating people against each other, creating an abusive atmosphere to intimidate and other well known bullying and mobbing tactics. See web site, Bullyonline to get a full description of yourselves.

    So, please spare me your not so expert advice which is very obvious.

  • cannotsay2013,

    Please don’t take the bait from these biopsychiatry/Big Pharma hacks using Scientology smear campaigns to do their very dirty work to try to intimidate others into silence in a cowardly, anonymous way!

  • Liisa and E Silly,

    I would say you two are in cahoots to promote psychiatry’s usual smear campaign against any would be critics by claiming they are Scientologists or associated with them.

    You both remind me of little boys in grade school who ran away from girls because they seemingly had cooties, but your slander and stalking is far more serious and menacing!

    And I find the bogus list on another web site of MIA members who supposedly support Scientology very suspicious since it coincides with the two of you joining MIA and making life hell for everyone else with your Scientology witch hunts!

    I have stated many times on MIA that I have a Christian background, which makes me admire the CCHR arm of Scientology dedicated to exposing the truth about the huge harm done by Big Pharma, psychiatry and corrupt politicians.

    Your actions have been very transparent as to your real goals here.

  • Liisa,

    I watched the video you cited as “funny” and I did not think it was funny at all. In fact, Dr. Ross does what he claimed he would do with his apparatus by making sounds. It’s also very minor in the scheme of things considering his great contribution to helping trauma/psychiatry survivors by exposing the truth about both.

    Thus, I assume your comment was meant to discredit Dr. Colin Ross though he has contributed greatly to exposing the lies promoted by biopsychiatry/Big Pharma, which is probably why he has been attacked by some and praised highly by many medical and other experts.

    He also came up with the excellent idea of using The Trauma Model he explains in his book by that title since like Dr. Judith Herman, trauma expert, he believes most emotional distress is caused by trauma that accounts for all the seeming comorbidities in psychiatry.

    How come you haven’t debunked main stream psychiatrists colluding with much fraud that Dr. Ross exposes above? I find it very disheartening that MIA members would try to discredit someone who has told the truth in a very intelligent, honest way with much evidence. I can make this statement having done tons of research in this area.

  • Here is one of those great “blame the victims” for their plight gems from psychiatry a la drug company CEO Mitch Daniels to always blame the toxic effects of lethal drugs and other deadly “treatments” including bullies in the mental death profession on the victims’ supposed “mental illness” as exposed by Dr. David Healy.

    Despite the fact that the image of smoking has changed from a cool, very fashionable and sexy thing to do (see older movies) to leper status within a couple of decades is not mentioned in this bogus article attributing smoking to the supposed bogus mental illness itself, which would drive anyone to smoke, drink or otherwise wish to “self soothe.” The truth is that often young teens got hooked on smoking to look/be “cool,” thanks to the horrible predation on them by tobacco/drug companies and politicians who refused to do the right thing to protect these vulnerable kids. As Dr. David Healy has shown, now Big Pharma, is using the same deadly marketing practices of the tobacco industry to prey on society’s most vulnerable with special emphasis on youth and elderly most recently with “doubt as their product.”

    So, be prepared to continue to see these great concerns about the so called health of the “mentally ill” that are obvious ploys to blame the victims for any traumatic life events, predatory manipulation by big business in youth like Big Tobacco with Big Pharma the current equal menace and other reactions to such stressors while completely ignoring the horrific effects of bogus stigmas like bipolar as a “severe mental illness” making one a prisoner with no human rights for life and forced to take any lethal drug or brain damaging/disabling treatment that will cause much organ/body damage too along with obesity, heart disease, diabetes, eye problems, incontinence, stroke, depression, zombie like behavior and feelings and on and on resulting in those early deaths by about 25 years on average.

    Also, cigarettes, junk food and other toxic manipulations have been used to control “patients” in mental hospitals along with typical abuse, so this latest ploy by psychiatry with this great pretense of concern for the health of their victims is also quite hypocritical.

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13)60677-7/fulltext?elsca1=ETOC-LANCET&elsca2=email&elsca3=E24A35F

  • It is well known that those who are captured into the “mental health system” and manipulated or forced to take toxic drugs like neuroleptics based on a life destroying stigma tend to die about 25 years earlier on average. And that’s for adults; the horrific consequences of psychiatry’s predation on children and toddlers not to mention in the womb have yet to be seen, but are sure to be even uglier and more dismal.

    I have noticed that whenever anyone discovers ways that psychiatry or their lethal drugs/torture treatments harm people past and present, they start working on their latest spin to discredit anyone who would hold them responsible including “patients,” families, whistleblower doctors, etc.

    Thus, I have also noticed many articles and efforts by psychiatry lately to focus on the “health” of their captives including smoking, obesity, diabetes, heart problems and others with a majority induced by their toxic drugs while self destructive habits come from such stressors as being stigmatized and bullied by supposed mental health experts who retraumatize their so called clients, which increases stress/trauma related addictions like smoking, drinking, drugging while making it much harder to quit. This is especially true when psychiatry aids and abets the abusers in marriage, divorce situations while destroying the women and children in the process with their bogus bipolar, ADHD, paranoia and other labels to justify toxic drugging while robbing the victims of all justice.

    Thus, I think to fully assess if the so called original “mental illness” such as trauma from abuse often deliberately misdiagnosed as bipolar, which drives people to self soothing/medicating ( good reason for old saying “it’s enough to drive you to drink) is due to the so called “mental illness” over time or the torture inflicted by the mental death profession, a study would have to be done of one group left unassaulted by psychiatry and the other in their thrall and subject to psychiatry’s usual tortures to aid and abet their fellow abusers in power in homes, work and community at large.

    Based on my obervations/research, once people get away from abusers, mobbers and bullies, they have a much easier time giving up stress/trauma induced harmful habits while those who are viciously betrayed by the mental death profession/legal system and others when seeking help for domestic, work and other abuse, even begin such self destructive habits like drinking too much in a desperate though self defeating way to cope with the shocking betrayal, horror and stress/trauma they suffer as a result.

    But, typical of psychiatry, I am seeing more and more efforts on their part to blame their victims completely for their much earlier deaths once entrapped by the mental death profession. Caveat emptor about these so called “noble” attempts to improve the “health” of psychiatry’s captives while continuing to force them to take brain/body destroying lethal drugs due to fraudulent, voted in life/reputation/career/relationship/family destroying stigmas.

  • Richard,

    You claim much knowledge in these matters but cite the so called twin studies for “schizophrenics” and others that have been widely debunked by Dr. Peter Breggin, Dr. Jay Joseph and many others. The problem with the so called genetic claims by psychiatry is that they manipulated them and failed to account for environmental factors enough in most cases. For example, if twins have the same IQ, looks and other factors, they are more likely to be treated in similar ways whether raised together or apart. See Dr. Jay Joseph’s The Gene Illusion and The Missing Gene and articles at MIA demonstrating that the latest eugenics claims are made by the 1% current robber barons to justify their exploitation and destruction of the rest of us inferior beings who deserve what we get supposedly.
    It’s the medicalization of injustice, poverty, sexism, racism, classism, and lots of other “isms” that have allowed the psychopaths to use the “shock doctrine” to hijack the globe and all its former democratic entities.

    Beware of such Trojan horses.

    Also, while it is true that those like the Unibomber supposedly came from “good homes,” a more careful look at reality shows that he and his brother lived in bizarre conditions in their youth as was true of Ted Bundy and other misfits. I’m not saying that bad families are always the problem because there are many other influences in one’s life like school, work, community, friends, enemies and the luck of the draw.

  • Copy cat,

    Who on this earth would come off as absolutely perfect if one’s every minute thought, decision, action and consequences were exposed to one and all as with the “last judgment?” Of course, that morbid thought doesn’t excuse the most dishonest, unethical behaviors against one’s fellow people.

    It’s easy to be lured into a mob mentality about those “others” who don’t fit in supposedly because they are said to be different than us. And though Scientology may sound odd to those who don’t share their beliefs, most religions sound odd to outsiders who haven’t grown up with them. One reason is that many spiritual and other truths are conveyed by myths or parables which can be true on the inside while not factually true on the outside.

    Anyway, psychiatry just went after Scientology because its founder Ron Hubbard was “antipsychiatry” and exposed many of their harmful beliefs and actions, so it’s a matter of the pot calling the kettle black when psychiatry goes after Scientology given that psychiatry is more a religion than medical profession itself.

    Thanks for your support and understanding Copy cat. And you are right, I don’t think we should be checking each person introduced at MIA for their supposed Scientology or other religious background. I think etiquette books warn against discussing such topics in polite conversation since it mostly leads to arguments.

  • E. Silly,

    I must say that I am finding your constant scientology smear campaigns very tiresome and I certainly question who’s side you are on. Could it be that you are a main stream psychiatry troll implanted here to keep throwing the supposed “Scientology mud” on anyone who may be a unique individual with a history, religion or thought that differs from yours or heaven forbid, our average biopsychiatrist in bed with Big Pharma and other great supposed great ethical company!!?

    The ad you included above just showed Dr. Ross being recognized by CCHR for his achievements as they have many others, which does not mean Dr. Ross or any others sought it out or were even aware they received the honor. Rather, CCHR had done some excellent research about psychiatric pseudoscience doing great harm and in the process they have come to recognize the psychiatrists and mental health experts who speak the truth unlike those who speak the life destroying DSM/Big Pharma deadly spin like many of us here after doing much research to protect ourselves and loved ones. So, your posting this ad says far more about you and whoever you are representing than Dr. Ross or anyone else you target who have earned applause for daring to tell the truth or trying to find remedies that actually help despite the far reaching billions used by Big Pharma to do all in their huge power to silence, crush and destroy anyone who dares challenge them.

    Dr. Ross wisely proposed “the trauma model” (title of a book he wrote) to replace the current DSM system since he found that most if not all severe emotional distress encountered by the mental health system is caused by trauma for life stressors/crises. Many mental health experts agree with Dr. Ross’ conclusion including experts like Dr. Judith Herman, author of the classic, Trauma And Recovery. He also helped write the great book, Pseudoscience in Biological Psychiatry with Dr. Alvin Pam and other contributors and it has gotten great reviews:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/br-pibp.htm

    You recently hijacked a post with another MIA poster to engage in a tiresome, never ending argument about scientology that ruined the post for everyone else and was/is very offensive to those who believe in the democratic rights to religious freedom and other human rights.

    As you continue to spread your venom throughout the web site, I must ask myself what your ultimate goal is here, which you may want to ask yourself. You’ve more than made your point about the fact that you don’t like Scientology, but many people here have acknowledged that their separate CCHR arm has put out some very excellent, enlightening materials that have been very factual and truthful and they have been recognized for that as CCHR has recognized brave psychiatrists risking their careers and very lives to tell the truth about the deadly psychiatry/Big Pharma industrial complex.

    Robert Whitaker, the creator of MIA has asked that people not focus on Scientology at MIA only because of psychiatry’s smear campaigns to used it as a discrediting device to anyone who might have the most minute association with Scientology, which is basically the same tactic of Joseph McCarthy’s terrorizing everyone by painting them as Communists during the 1950’s. Finally, he was asked by a fellow Congress man, “Have you no decency, sir?”

    So, I will ask you the same question, “Have you no decency E. Silly” as you continue to smear campaign everyone here in the guise of Scientology?

    You have more than made your point. Did it ever occur to you that others here may be sick of your own BS despite your complaints about others’? I certainly am.

  • Hi Sandy,

    Thanks for your response. I guess I felt frustrated and torn by your post because I don’t want you to feel disrespected and unwanted here since everyone likes and respects you even if they don’t agree with you about everything, which works both ways. Obviously, you don’t agree with us all the time either and the rest of us don’t agree with each other a whole lot either! So, you’ve become an official member of this opinionated group! But, I’d say the disagreements we have pale in comparison to those we have with the likes of Ralph Torrey and those of his ilk like Nassir Ghaemi, bipolar fanatic world dominator, my nemesis! Ghaemi is trying to extend the guidelines for bipolar to include PTSD, borderline, depression, anxiety, any reaction to a life event, abuse, rape, etc., which led Dr. Joel Paris to accuse him of bipolar imperialism and Dr. David Healy, bipolar babble/mania. An amusing web site, The Last Psychiatrist, also exposes the Ghaemi bipolar world takeover with much humor on his site, but it’s not funny if you consider Rebecca Riley, the 4 year old who died from the lethal drugs from her bogus ADHD/bipolar stigmas thanks to Dr. Joseph Biederman who single handedly created the child ADHD and bipolar epidemics while collecting millions under the table from J&J while promising positive studies for children taking deadly neuroleptics in advance. These are the real villains who should be jailed like many Dr. Nardo exposes.

    I was just checking a web site I like quite a bit called antipsychiatry.org (I’ve shared some items from this site with you) and most of the good information on it came from ethical psychiatrists and other excellent mental health professionals because lay people like us can’t really speak on the subject with much authority, which is why we seek out whistleblowers and critical psychiatrists willing to speak the truth rather than the usual mainstream lies. I would say you fall in the category of telling us the truth as when you’ve taken on Jeffrey Lieberman, Fuller Torrey and others. Many psychiatrists have been seen as antipsychiatrists by their peers if they don’t hang on every mainstream word dictated by the APA, et al.

    Anyway, thank you for your concern. Again, I regret that some posts are offensive to you, but others are even more offensive to us when they use medicalized language and other tricks to be insulting and maddening in their own way. If I reacted to everything that upsets me here, I would do nothing else!

    Have a nice night,
    Donna

  • Hi Sandy,

    I have to say that I feel somewhat frustrated by your post in that I think both sides have tried to be fairly honest with each other while trying to maintain mutual respect and being forced to agree/admit that we disagree at times. As I’ve told you, I have been very pleased with the many changes you have made due to Bob Whitaker’s and others’ work and your own exploration of new methods like Open Dialog, drug tapering, etc. I’ve made changes too in that I have tried to understand your position when in very difficult, dangerous situations with psychotic people, which I have never experienced myself or in my family.

    Actually, much has changed and come to light since Bob Whitaker wrote Anatomy and we started posting here. I have always demonstrated my complete contempt and disgust for what I knew/know to be bogus, invented, voted in stigmas in the junk science DSM based on tons of research and common sense, and made no secret of it as you know. You, yourself, had admitted DSM stigmas are of dubious value except to get paid, but I don’t think you and others in your field see or admit how truly horrific it is to malign a fellow human with such devastating stigmas that can and will haunt them for life and in many cases destroy their lives in tons of ways. As Lucy Johnstone, Psychologist, says in her argument that they should be abolished, giving someone a DSM stigma (especially bipolar and schizophrenia today) has to be one of the most horrible things one could do to someone. Many experts in your field including some in the Critical Psychiatry Network are fighting to eliminate these horrible assaults on humanity. Perhaps the USA group could join the British group to abolish the DSM and stigmatizing people?

    You talked about reading Richard Noll’s American Madness. I just checked out a brief description of this book and found it surprising that Noll admits that going from dementia praecox to schizophrenia gave the profession a (false) sense of being a medical one even if they couldn’t cure these “diseases” if I understood this correctly. Thus, the only benefit of these great disease findings was for the so called status and image of psychiatrists as real medical doctors while doing nothing but more harm to the so called patients over time to the present. Some things never change, unfortunately. This is why Dr. Thomas Szasz called schizophrenia psychiatry’s “sacred symbol” to justify their existence now taken over by the bipolar fad fraud, another gem for which I don’t pretend to feel anything but total contempt especially toward the disease mongers like Nassir Ghaemi trying to expand this fad fraud to include about everyone on the planet. Also, as I have said before, Kraepelin was into eugenics deeply which continues today in psychiatry with the never ending search for the inferior, missing genes in those psychiatry stigmatizes in their degradation rituals to justify their violent and abusive “treatments” while deliberately creating such stigma to ostracize and discredit their victims, so the majority of society won’t object. Kraepelin also did quite a bit of work on psychopaths, which psychiatry conveniently ignored/s as it cherry picks what they find useful to enhance their position today as a great medical profession with a long history of advances when those like Kraepelin prove otherwise when one checks the facts and history.

    http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674047396

    I don’t have much respect for Richard Noll after he vigorously pushed for ECT like others at Dr. Nardo’s web site showing he either has no conscience or is lazy about doing the research for the horrible brain damaging, lobotomy like effects of this savage “treatment” in the guise of medicine when many neurologists and other experts including one of its greatest pushers, Harold Sackeim, have admitted its devastating effects on one’s brain, memory, livelihood, creativity and ability to function overall and sometimes resulting in death, which are well described in books like Doctors of Deception recommended by Robert Whitaker and many web sites and articles on the web.

    This week, Dr. Insel and his cohorts came out with the latest bogus gene claims for schizophrenia based on a large study you probably read about from Nature Magazine or the many other news sources. The findings appear to be the usual junk science psychiatry uses to bully everyone into the false belief that the bogus DSM stigmas are real genetic entities and that they have real biological causes. I am pretty disgusted with Dr. Insel in that he had acknowledged DSM stigmas to be invalid not long ago. Not that long ago David Oakes of Mindfreedom staged a hunger strike for the APA and cohorts to force them to admit that there was no genetic, chemical imbalance or other evidence of faulty brains in those they falsely accused of being “mentally ill.” The APA and cohorts finally had to back down and admit the truth after much BS, obfuscation and pussy footing around. So, I am especially disgusted to see our government and what claims/pretends to be a prestigious medical profession act like a bunch of narcissistic 2 year olds with no concern about the consequences of the trust they routinely violate. Please bear in mind, we aren’t trying to abolish you or eliminate you, but rather, we are advocating that psychiatry’s many lies and human rights violations be ended especially the predation on our children with the bipolar fad fraud and neuroleptic drugs that is criminal in the opinion of many including me!

    You may be familiar with Dr. Mary Boyle’s Schizophrenia: A Scientific Delusion? This classic work is highly respected with its total debunking of this horrible stigma that seems to represent many different, diverse behaviors or illnesses. Experts expose it as a mere social construct with no real world reality or validity, but, psychiatry led by Dr. Insel has changed position from the invalidity of this voted in disorder to it now being used to show the genetic loci associations to schizophrenia in thousands of people. The insanity is that people with opposite symptoms with none of the same ones can all get this diagnosis with no tests, which makes it totally subjective. Thus, the whole premise of this great gene exploration is absurd with garbage in; garbage out. This is the type of circular reasoning Dr. Hickey exposes in that they start with a faulty premise that they can “diagnose” a disease with a voted in list of diverse symptoms and then attribute any similarities to the bogus disease of schizophrenia though they have no evidence it exists or at least not in one single entity. Plus, there may be many different causes of just psychosis alone in addition to all the other symptoms that come under this umbrella.

    So, what Dr. Insel and cohorts are asking us to do now is forget that DSM voted in stigmas like schizophrenia are INVALID as he admitted just recently and pretend they are valid now. Pretend that the thousands of heterogeneous people with very diverse symptoms and outcomes in this “study” are all just chips off the old block or your average schizophrenia patients. (Ludicrous and ridiculous of course!). Then, some vague loci of gene associations of about 108 are found that are now being proclaimed as EVIDENCE that schizophrenia is a real biological, medical illness though even Dr. Insel was forced to damper such enthusiasm since the great findings were very small and inconclusive. But, we have psychiatrists jumping up and down with glee that they have their new mental illness biomarkers to tout rather than thinking of the implications for their so called patients. Dr. Nardo posted some information about this and he, too, expressed satisfaction that the so called evidence seems to back up his BELIEF that certain DSM stigmas are biological, genetic, etc. such as schizophrenia, bipolar and maybe ADHD. It never ceases to amaze me how such intelligent and seemingly decent people can be so blind in other ways. Why would anyone want to see others have real genetic brain diseases or such life long disabilities rather than hoping that the problems were social, environmental, relational and otherwise possible to fix with enough insight and will to succeed. Perhaps it is hard for you and others in your field to see things this way, but for people like me, it sure it hard to see it from the standpoint of your profession or accept or tolerate it for a minute!

    Anyway, I’ve tried to share some things that bother me greatly about the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel that came on the scene with Robert Spitzer’s pseudoscience DSM III and I doubt I will ever forgive them for that any more than others forgive those initiating other human holocausts on themselves and loved ones in their time on earth and the children that follow. You’ve acknowledged that many of these things have bothered you too, so I don’t think you or I or others here could say we are in total opposite camps by any means.

    You have also acknowleged there are many dishonest, abusive people in your profession whom Dr. Nardo has exposed on his web site with their Big Pharma and other corruption. Anyway, these are just some thoughts I have about the huge chasm or divide that exists between me and psychiatry since it greatly threatened my loved ones and I fear greatly for future generations as long as such brain assaults and disabling continue for all ages. I think most people have excepted you from their anger at psychiatry because you have expressed your own unique views and work at MIA, but we as a society all have to deal with the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma industrial complex with our eyes wide open and very alert brains, which means one must avoid forced drugging and other brain disabling treatments at all costs.

    One of the things I am most angry about is that our government in the voice of Dr. Thomas Insel, can routinely lie to and deceive the people about what is known about “mental illness” and the so called treatments available as well as its causes. For Insel to keep carping about the genetic and other biological causes of severe emotional distress is just parroting a tired, old ideology as Dr. Nardo exposed as he urged that it is time for Insel to move on since he has no fresh or really applicable ideas to relieve all the existing suffering and poverty around us. I think psychiatry should be up in arms and outraged that the public is being deceived routinely in the name of psychiatry, which tends to destroy people’s trust and hope for the future.

    And without sounding brash, there is always that old saying, “If the shoe fits, wear it.” You’ve had many discussions with us on your blog from Fuller Torrey’s anosognosia to Lieberman’s touting of future lucrative Big Pharma opportunities to its members that you don’t exactly admire yourself.

    Just remember, you yourself said, that you try to avoid going to the general doctor as much as possible given the statin debacle and now the new diabetes guidelines that would be very inclusive, etc.

    This is not meant to offend you, but to remind you that we can respect you and appreciate changes in your views and practice while not agreeing about everything. Such respect is earned and not automatically assumed given the state of ethics and actions in psychiatry and medicine in general today, so I sure know not to trust just anyone in psychiatry in that it can be life threatening. Sorry, but it’s all too true.

    Again, thanks for being here and continuing to tough it out, which I greatly admire. Just remember that you have agreed that the science is not really there for the DSM and its labels, the drugs were promoted as being far better than they were/are, there were/are many corrupt KOL’s and others in psychiatry, and other inconvenient truths covered by Dr. Nardo and colleagues. So, usually, when I say negative things about psychiatry, I am not including you because we’ve hashed out our ideas on your blog and elsewhere already. This is why Dr. Thomas Szasz called schizophrenia psychiatry’s “sacred symbol” to justify their existence now taken over by the bipolar fad fraud, another gem for which I don’t pretend to feel anything but total contempt especially toward the disease mongers like Nassir Ghaemi trying to expand this fad fraud to include about everyone on the planet.

    As usual, thanks for hanging in there. When you consider it, with all the things/blogs written at MIA, the fact you could only find 3 for your complaint shows it could be much worse. Just trying to add some of that new fangled positive psychology here!

  • Ellen,

    Your claim that withholding neuroleptic or other drugs was questionably unethical is only true if one believes psychiatry’s bogus DSM spin that “schizophrenia” is a bona fide medical disease that can be treated with major tranquillizers or neuroleptics known to cause brain shrinkage, atrophy and decline in functioning and cognition to name a few problems and make matters worse in the short and long run.

    Here is a review of the great book, Pseudoscience in Biological Psychiatry, debunking psychiatry’s many spurious claims:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/br-pibp.htm

    Here is one of many articles by the brilliant Lawrence Stevens, J.D. about schizophrenia: a nonexistent “disease:”

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/schizoph.htm

    Another great article by Lawrence Stevens, J.D. on psychiatric drugs: cure of quackery?:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/drugs.htm

    This is a great web site with many excellent, classic articles I highly recommend though the web site hasn’t been updated recently.

  • Jonah,

    Thanks for your willingness to reconsider your reaction to the following post:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/04/important-considerations-implementing-assisted-outpatient-treatment-collaborative-advocacy-agenda/

    Since you were willing to reconsider, I read it again carefully and if you do that, you can see that what Dr. Ragins seems to be saying is that all those pushing for these new AOT programs are sadly mistaken if they think it is just a matter of forcing people to take “medications” or poison drugs that could/would make it work. If you read the article, he cites all kinds of difficult obstacle courses one must go through including the judicial system which can make funding problems worse, the need for housing assistance, comprehensive health care, dealing with trauma and other unique issues of each person and on and on and on about all the potential problems, hassles, necessary increased money, problems with coercion with plenty of room for abuses on all sides that should/must be addressed, etc.

    Anyway, I actually found the whole AOT article by Dr. Ragins funny in a way because he exposed that anyone thinking the implementation of such a program would be easy, free or cheap and other magical thinking is sadly mistaken. It was actually amusing in parts for anyone who has actually run an organization, fight for funding, had to budget, manage people, satisfy the public, politicians, staff, etc. Dr. Ragins also exposed the fact that many people are control freaks who love to coerce other people, but the problem is that there are many conflicting groups who wish to control the same people, money, agencies, legalities, services, etc., so they are in for a rude awakening.

    Anyway, I think the not so hidden message in Dr. Ragin’s AOT article was/is “you’ll be sorry,” and he says he wouldn’t want anything to do with it for the reasons he cites including abuse of power by all those involved that would require policies to avoid like many other potential problems. I may be wrong, but that is my impression.

    I don’t think it’s any surprise that the Mental Health America of LA decided not to support AOT. People are always big on creating grandiose plans, but it is a different story when it comes to funding and implementing such programs and dealing with the many harsh realities involved that I think Dr. Ragins covers all too well.

  • Jonah,

    When I used the term “fascist” I combined it with “AOT” to have those two words define each other and not you, Dr. Ragins or what you think of Dr. Ragins.

    Anyway, I think Dr. Ragins has a rather hard hitting type of speech that can cause people to misunderstand him.

    I think many people were and are feeling pretty hopeless about the fascist Murphy bill fostered by Fuller Torrey who has been advocating forced treatment for decades. They are now exploiting the many public/school shootings as crimes committed by the so called mentally ill to scapegoat them instead of addressing many other problems like the dangerous effects of psych drugs, lack of adequate gun control, the destructive victim blaming mental “health” system, growing inequality, poverty, oppression, unemployment, sexism, racism, domestic violence, school/work bullying/mobbing, etc.

    Thus, like many of us Dr. Ragins thought the Murphy bill was/is a done deal (and it has many supporters listed on a government site), and he was fulfilling a request on how to implement it if necessary as well as his thoughts on it. I think that’s why he made the statement you criticized as acknowledging we’ve lost the battle; AOT is here, etc. Again, he said he wouldn’t want to do it in his article and exposed many negatives about it.

    You are entitled to your opinion, Jonah, but I think Dr. Ragins is more of an ally than an enemy and I am one of the toughest critics of those on the wrong side as anyone here can tell you including yourself if you think about our arguments about Dr. Allen Frances. You supported him far more than I did and ensured that anything I said about him were exact quotes and as fair as possible in your opinion. Thus, I find your refusal to even reconsider Dr. Ragin’s AOT article in light of what I shared quite puzzling given your usual exacting standards for such research and opinions in my past encounters with you.

    Anyway, I regret bothering you and hope you are not offended by my sincere desire to try to make sure you had all the facts and information about Dr. Ragins’ AOT post before jumping to conclusions.

    Thanks for your consideration.

    Donna

  • Jonah,

    Knowing you to be a very fair and exacting person when assessing others and their work, I think you may have misunderstood Dr. Ragin’s blog on Assisted Outpatient Treatment or AOT you cite above.

    Here is the editorial MIA explanation for the purpose of this article on AOT at its end you may have missed:

    Editorial note: Dr. Ragins sent this in response to an invitation for perspectives on assertive outpatient treatment (AOT) legislation, Such as the Murphy bill. Dr. Ragins states that this brief, which was originally prepared for a board member of Mental Health America of Los Angeles (MHALA), had the effect of shifting the board member’s perspective such that he proposed that MHALA officially stand against implementation of AOT laws. We expect that there will be a full and thoughtful discussion of this blog, however, due to a family emergency, Dr. Ragins will be unable to participate.

    As you can see, Dr. Ragins was asked to prepare this assessment of AOT and if you read the article, you will see he is against it because those administering it run the risk of abusing power and trying to force people to do what they don’t want to do, which can be harmful to both sides he says.

    Dr. Ragins said he wouldn’t want to do AOT himself for this and other negative reasons he cites.

    As you can see from the above editorial comment, the organization, Mental Health America, changed their minds from supporting AOT to not supporting it based on Dr. Ragin’s article. I saw a video of the head of MHA speaking against AOT at a meeting with fascist Murhpy thanks to Dr. Ragins.

    Therefore, I suggest you go back and read the AOT article you cite by Dr. Ragins and the editorial explanation at the end and see if you don’t feel a bit sheepish about branding Dr. Ragins as a fascist AOT promoter when the opposite is true.

    As I said in Dr. Ragin’s other posts, I got over being mad when I realized that Dr. Ragins is just telling it like it is rather than how he thinks it should be. And I think he has been very open to considering new ideas and seeing things from different perspectives.

    I have gained a growing appreciation of Dr. Ragin’s articles and efforts as he continues to think outside the narrow constraints of so called “evidence based psychiatry” and tries to really connect with people he is trying to help.

    Like others, I thought this latest article on how to reach out to isolated people who may become capable of violence was an excellent one that could benefit everyone in our increasingly isolated, alienated society discussed in books like Bowling Alone and others.

    I hope you will check out the above Jonah because as I said, I believe you like to be fair and honest with other people.

  • The article below is by a psychologist who came to see that the bogus ADHD stigma was being used to target disadvantaged children in less than ideal living conditions who had no brain abnormalities whatever at birth. Their problems were based on poverty and other very negative environmental, social conditions. Moreover, whenever so called ADHD experts claimed to have found brain abnormalities in children they stigmatized as ADHD, it was found that the drugs caused the brain shrinkage shown and not the bogus ADHD label. The same was true of stunted growth caused by the kiddie cocaine. Moreover, it was found that children with later birthdays or younger ones in classes were tagged as ADHD based on their expected lesser maturity than their older classmates. And so the fraud goes on and on……………….

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/opinion/sunday/childrens-add-drugs-dont-work-long-term.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    As the author says, the NIMH and other government so called health agencies collude with the 1% in power to promote bogus genetic theories that have been repeatedly debunked by what Dr. Jay Joseph calls The Gene Illusion and The Missing Gene to justify blaming the victims of growing inequality, oppression, injustice, misogyny, racism, pollution, toxic food and other destructive anti-life conditions inflicted by the current robber barons. That our government colludes with the biopsychiatry fascist agenda to destroy countless lives with known destructive, ostracizing, voted in stigmas to push the latest lethal drugs and other psychiatric lobotomies like ECT and others on those in emotional distress from traumatic life conditions shows that we no longer live in democracy, but rather a fascist therapeutic state like Stalinist Russia as Dr. Thomas Szasz exposed.

    And the fact that our country has now made children the greatest, most lucrative Big Pharma target to line the pockets of politicians and others in power with billions leaving a trail of destroyed lives behind them shows that psychopaths are now running the show globally and that the majority have lost their moral compass to either collude with such dangerous predation on our children or passively go along as with the Nazi and other holocausts.

  • Ron,

    Those keeping neuroleptics on hand when dealing with the so called mentally ill should probably just have/use tasers and pepper spray instead! And guns in worse case scenarios. At least there would be less hypocrisy about the purpose of such restraints and more honesty about psychiatry’s fascist agenda, chemical/electrical and surgical lobotomies and bogus stigmas to force their own violent actions and thoughts on those they victimize while destroying countless lives in the process in the guise of mental health and medicine. No wonder there are so many suicides!

  • EllenL,

    Your blaming the victims for the toxic effects of these brain damaging/disabling drugs is a well known psychiatry/Big Pharma ploy while pretending such life destroying “treatment” cannot be withheld in the guise of ethics is disingenuous to say the least. You also seem to be unaware of the many studies done by major experts that have more than proven it’s the drugs not the bogus invented stigma of schizophrenia that is used to label many very different types of behavior including falsely accusing people of being “mentally ill” for the most pernicious motives.

    I’m reposting the information from another post about neuroleptic drugs causing brain shrinkage that extends to this post while including the brain damage, atrophy and cognitive decline from these chemical lobotomies:

    Donna on July 21, 2014 at 3:32 pm said:

    Bob Whitaker has done some excellent articles at MIA and Psychology Today exposing that Nancy Andreasen who did some of the most important studies on the lethal effects on the brain from neuroleptics found that not only did these drugs shrink the brain, they also caused cognitive decline and much worse functioning and other negative effects over time:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201102/andreasen-drops-bombshell-antipsychotics-shrink-the-brain

    Here is a great quotation from Bob Whitaker’s article:

    In this February report, Andreasen does not tie the drug-related brain shrinkage to an increase in negative symptoms, functional impairment, and cognitive decline. But in earlier articles, she did just that. And it is that larger context that makes this February report such a bombshell: When pieced together, this is a story of drug treatment that, over the long-term, causes long-term harm.

    Typically, because these lethal drugs have made billions for the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel, they have been trying to cover up this “inconvenient truth” ever since it has been exposed with even Nancy Andreasen trying to hush it up in later studies and interviews as Bob exposes above. Also, she admits to sitting on her discovery of this drug induced brain damage/atrophy for years. so that psychiatry’s victims would continue to be forced to take their toxic drugs. Moreover, Bob exposed in his books that psychiatrists knew that these drugs caused chemical lobotomies and brain damage right from the start when these poison drugs were introduced to lobotomize the “mentally ill” in institutions to make them easier to “manage.”

    Dr. Peter Breggin has also exposed that psychiatry made no secret of the fact that their toxic treatments were meant to damage and disable the brain to dumb people down as so called “treatment” for those targeted by those in power using the pretense that psychiatric fascist agents of control were practicing medicine when they falsely committed dissidents and other inconvenient people to prisons falsely called hospitals against their will and brain damaged them into oblivion while ensuring they would be discredited, ostracized and destroyed socially as “mentally ill.” Such “mental health” tactics were well portrayed in movies like One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

    Dr. Peter Breggin on Brain Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry:

    http://www.breggin.com/braindisabling.pdf

    Dr. Nancy Andreasen admits that neuroleptic drugs cause brain atrophy:

    http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/772/9/

    List of articles from Dr. Peter Breggin’s Toxic Psychiatry web site on neuroleptic brain damage and negative impact on cognition and functioning:

    http://www.toxicpsychiatry.com/antipsychotics/

    The Scientific Case Against Forced Treatment by Robert Whitaker

    (Emphasizes perils of neuroleptic drugs mostly used in forced treatment)

    http://www.mhlac.org/Docs/Whitaker_2.1.2013.pdf

    Dr. Grace Jackson on Drug Induced Dementia: The Perfect Crime and Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs: A Guide to Informed Consent

    http://isepp.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/drug-induced-dementia-a-perfect-crime-by-isepp-member-dr-grace-jackson/

    http://www.amazon.com/Drug-Induced-Dementia-MD-Grace-Jackson/dp/1438972318

    Those at MIA who have been reading Robert Whitaker and concerned experts for a long time know about the toxic effects of neuroleptics and other psychiatric drugs, ECT and other so called psychiatric brain/body damaging/disabling treatments.

    It is good to see that studies like the one in this post are still focusing on such neuroleptic induced brain damage/shrinkage, but it seems that like Nancy Andreasen and cohorts, they have been minimizing this damage and not acknowledging the deadly long term effects of thee toxic drugs on the brain and body and one’s quality of life or lack thereof resulting in early death by about 25 years on average.

    Dr. Joanna Moncrieff who posts at this web site has accused psychiatrists of burying their heads in the sand about the truth about toxic neuroleptics, but since she is a psychiatrist, I question if even she acknowledges the huge harm done by these toxic drugs as she justifies their use for so called psychosis or schizophrenics when this so called disease has never been proven to be a disease since there is no scientific, medical or other evidence to show it or any other bogus DSM stigma exists. On the other hand, there have been many treatments like Open Dialog, the Hearing Voices Movement and psychotherapy that have been successful with these people without destroying their brains and bodies.

    Donna on July 21, 2014 at 9:41 pm said:

    As I gave this article some more thought, I did see something quite positive in the following quotation from the article:

    “Symptom severity, functioning level, and decline in cognition were not associated with brain volume reduction in schizophrenia,” stated the researchers. “The amount of antipsychotic medication… over the follow-up period predicted brain volume loss.”

    This admission is rather positive and unusual for psychiatry in that it clearly places the blame for the brain shrinkage on the neuroleptic drugs and not the victim’s so called mental illness as is all too typical of psychiatry. In fact, Dr. David Healy has exposed that Mitch Daniels, a Big Pharma CEO, invented the dirty trick of always blaming the victims’ so called mental illness for any toxic effects of Big Pharma’s nasty psychiatric and other drugs.

    Therefore, it appears that the authors of this study probably had good intentions now that all the negative information about these toxic drugs is being exposed more and more.

    Although the authors didn’t address the decline in cognition and functioning after being on neuroleptics that others noted above have found, it is important that they have also identified the brain shrinkage or atrophy caused by these dangerous drugs. Many experts are now questioning long term use of these drugs as did Robert Whitaker and are emphasizing seeking other alternatives, lower doses and trying to taper people off these drugs whenever possible.

    Donna on July 22, 2014 at 1:19 pm said:

    http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage/brain-tissue-loss

    JAMA Psychiatry, February 7, 2011

    Long-term Antipsychotic Treatment and Brain VolumesA Longitudinal Study of First-Episode Schizophrenia FREE

    Beng-Choon Ho, MRCPsych; Nancy C. Andreasen, MD, PhD; Steven Ziebell, BS; Ronald Pierson, MS; Vincent Magnotta, PhD

    http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=211084

    Study referred to by Robert Whitaker above about antipsychotics causing brain shrinkage/damage/atrophy causing authors of study to recommend rethinking the growing long term usage of these toxic drugs especially for off label non-psychotic symptoms such as the misbehavior of children or the elderly in nursing homes for social control and silencing the vulnerable and powerless.

  • Hi Mark,

    Though I agree that psychiatry’s life destroying invalid stigmas like bipolar, ADHD and schizophrenia to push useless, toxic drugs that make people’s lives much worse are a major cause of the isolation and probable feelings of anger, loss of esteem, feeling rightly one is being made a scapegoat as well as hopelessness, wanting to isolate and other problems you cite, I think your anti-violence plan is excellent overall.

    Perhaps if your plan was tried first before the biopsychiatry labeling and drugging demolition enterprise, many of these isolated, angry young men or people might be reached. As Dr. Hickey wrote on this web site, many people wrongly think people are born with good social skills when in reality such skills like others must be taught, especially when children/teens come from abusive, poor, stressful homes and environments. Maybe youth/teen centers or areas (using churches even with volunteer supervisors?) might be a place to accomplish this by encouraging activities where all are/must be included and having experts to notice and tactfully/privately help those who seem to struggle to fit in, get bullied, etc. You probably see incidents like this yourself where you might intervene privately.

    Anyway, I was very inspired by your post and I can see it took a lot of thought and hard effort on your part.

    I think it would work much better if DSM stigmas and toxic psych drugs were delayed as long as possible to see if your plan might be a far better treatment without all the negative side effects while not stigmatizing and brain damaging the person for life. I also liked your article about talking to people with psychosis though you were trained otherwise. I’m glad you are learning from your own experience and wisdom rather then allowing the KOL’s of the APA who sold out to Big Pharma at the expense of their so called patients manipulate you into believing their “drug company inspired algorithms” and “evidence based medicine” with all the “evidence” supporting drug companies’ billions and lining the pockets of politicians .

    Perhaps you could start a volunteer program to try to implement some of these ideas starting on a small scale to see how it goes. I get the impression that you are doing some of this already?

    I appreciate your taking the time to write at MIA and I realize that though we may not always like what you say, I think you are trying to be honest by “telling it like it is” as I said on your post about your input on the Mental Health Act that changed people’s minds about forced treatment. I appreciate your doing this to uphold human rights and not scapegoating the so called “mentally ill” for lack of gun control and other problems. Regardless, I see a warm, caring, compassionate person in you as you share with us your ideal plan despite the many challenges you face daily with low income people with many life challenges and inadequate funding.

  • http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage/brain-tissue-loss

    JAMA Psychiatry, February 7, 2011

    Long-term Antipsychotic Treatment and Brain VolumesA Longitudinal Study of First-Episode Schizophrenia FREE

    Beng-Choon Ho, MRCPsych; Nancy C. Andreasen, MD, PhD; Steven Ziebell, BS; Ronald Pierson, MS; Vincent Magnotta, PhD

    http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=211084

    Study referred to by Robert Whitaker above about antipsychotics causing brain shrinkage/damage/atrophy causing authors of study to recommend rethinking the growing long term usage of these toxic drugs especially for off label non-psychotic symptoms such as the misbehavior of children or the elderly in nursing homes for social control and silencing the vulnerable and powerless.

  • I guess this is a very technical way of explaining how those conned or forced into taking toxic neuroleptic drugs get diabetes, obesity, metabolic syndrome that then contribute to heart attacks, stroke along with the brain damage and other lethal effects that cause early death by about 25 years on average.

    Can’t wait for a technical article on how boys develop breasts from some of these toxic drugs!

  • As I gave this article some more thought, I did see something quite positive in the following quotation from the article:

    “Symptom severity, functioning level, and decline in cognition were not associated with brain volume reduction in schizophrenia,” stated the researchers. “The amount of antipsychotic medication… over the follow-up period predicted brain volume loss.”

    This admission is rather positive and unusual for psychiatry in that it clearly places the blame for the brain shrinkage on the neuroleptic drugs and not the victim’s so called mental illness as is all too typical of psychiatry. In fact, Dr. David Healy has exposed that Mitch Daniels, a Big Pharma CEO, invented the dirty trick of always blaming the victims’ so called mental illness for any toxic effects of Big Pharma’s nasty psychiatric and other drugs.

    Therefore, it appears that the authors of this study probably had good intentions now that all the negative information about these toxic drugs is being exposed more and more.

    Although the authors didn’t address the decline in cognition and functioning after being on neuroleptics that others noted above have found, it is important that they have also identified the brain shrinkage or atrophy caused by these dangerous drugs. Many experts are now questioning long term use of these drugs as did Robert Whitaker and are emphasizing seeking other alternatives, lower doses and trying to taper people off these drugs whenever possible.

  • B,

    Ironically, by your definition, psychiatry is delusional because they have so called beliefs held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary such as their junk science voted in stigmas in their bogus DSM bible and their fraudulent claims of chemical imbalances, bad genes and other eugenics theories proven to be invalid to blame the victims of the power elite who they really serve. Of course, some are duped and some are complicit making them all equally dangerous. Plus, psychiatry is an atheistic religion that views humanity as mere animals subject to Pavlovian dog like training by the monstrous fascist behaviorists like B.F. Skinner for the ultimate therapeutic state.

  • Bob Whitaker has done some excellent articles at MIA and Psychology Today exposing that Nancy Andreasen who did some of the most important studies on the lethal effects on the brain from neuroleptics found that not only did these drugs shrink the brain, they also caused cognitive decline and much worse functioning and other negative effects over time:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201102/andreasen-drops-bombshell-antipsychotics-shrink-the-brain

    Here is a great quotation from Bob Whitaker’s article:

    In this February report, Andreasen does not tie the drug-related brain shrinkage to an increase in negative symptoms, functional impairment, and cognitive decline. But in earlier articles, she did just that. And it is that larger context that makes this February report such a bombshell: When pieced together, this is a story of drug treatment that, over the long-term, causes long-term harm.

    Typically, because these lethal drugs have made billions for the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel, they have been trying to cover up this “inconvenient truth” ever since it has been exposed with even Nancy Andreasen trying to hush it up in later studies and interviews as Bob exposes above. Also, she admits to sitting on her discovery of this drug induced brain damage/atrophy for years. so that psychiatry’s victims would continue to be forced to take their toxic drugs. Moreover, Bob exposed in his books that psychiatrists knew that these drugs caused chemical lobotomies and brain damage right from the start when these poison drugs were introduced to lobotomize the “mentally ill” in institutions to make them easier to “manage.”

    Dr. Peter Breggin has also exposed that psychiatry made no secret of the fact that their toxic treatments were meant to damage and disable the brain to dumb people down as so called “treatment” for those targeted by those in power using the pretense that psychiatric fascist agents of control were practicing medicine when they falsely committed dissidents and other inconvenient people to prisons falsely called hospitals against their will and brain damaged them into oblivion while ensuring they would be discredited, ostracized and destroyed socially as “mentally ill.” Such “mental health” tactics were well portrayed in movies like One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

    Dr. Peter Breggin on Brain Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry:

    http://www.breggin.com/braindisabling.pdf

    Dr. Nancy Andreasen admits that neuroleptic drugs cause brain atrophy:

    http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/772/9/

    List of articles from Dr. Peter Breggin’s Toxic Psychiatry web site on neuroleptic brain damage and negative impact on cognition and functioning:

    http://www.toxicpsychiatry.com/antipsychotics/

    The Scientific Case Against Forced Treatment by Robert Whitaker

    (Emphasizes perils of neuroleptic drugs mostly used in forced treatment)

    http://www.mhlac.org/Docs/Whitaker_2.1.2013.pdf

    Dr. Grace Jackson on Drug Induced Dementia: The Perfect Crime and Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs: A Guide to Informed Consent

    http://isepp.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/drug-induced-dementia-a-perfect-crime-by-isepp-member-dr-grace-jackson/

    http://www.amazon.com/Drug-Induced-Dementia-MD-Grace-Jackson/dp/1438972318

    Those at MIA who have been reading Robert Whitaker and concerned experts for a long time know about the toxic effects of neuroleptics and other psychiatric drugs, ECT and other so called psychiatric brain/body damaging/disabling treatments.

    It is good to see that studies like the one in this post are still focusing on such neuroleptic induced brain damage/shrinkage, but it seems that like Nancy Andreasen and cohorts, they have been minimizing this damage and not acknowledging the deadly long term effects of thee toxic drugs on the brain and body and one’s quality of life or lack thereof resulting in early death by about 25 years on average.

    Dr. Joanna Moncrieff who posts at this web site has accused psychiatrists of burying their heads in the sand about the truth about toxic neuroleptics, but since she is a psychiatrist, I question if even she acknowledges the huge harm done by these toxic drugs as she justifies their use for so called psychosis or schizophrenics when this so called disease has never been proven to be a disease since there is no scientific, medical or other evidence to show it or any other bogus DSM stigma exists. On the other hand, there have been many treatments like Open Dialog, the Hearing Voices Movement and psychotherapy that have been successful with these people without destroying their brains and bodies.

  • Bonnie,

    I am just thrilled that we have gained such an honest, ethical, intelligent “antipsychiatrist” like you at MIA. This is a superb article that pulls no punches about all the fraud, abuses and huge harm done by psychiatry in the guise of “mental health” and “treatment.” Your other articles on MIA and your web site are excellent too.

    I’m also delighted to meet the “smart cookie” who came up with this fantastic title about the old boy network in general and psychiatry in particular in their “treatment” of women:

    Burstow, B. (2009). Electroshock: The gentleman’s way to batter women. Domestic Violence
    Report, 1 ff.

    Brilliant!! It’s so nice to meet the very smart lady who came up with that gem that says it all about our misogynist world!!

    I’m very grateful for Rob Wipond introducing you and your antipsychiatry web site to us at MIA though your name and works are familiar to me as another “old timer” all too familiar to those of us who have been researching the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel for decades when forced because our loved ones were put at risk in the 1990’s. I am also very thankful for Dr. Peter Breggin exposing this fraud in such works as Toxic Psychiatry and Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed. in the 1990’s when the vast majority in what I now call “the mental death profession” sold out to Big Pharma while voting in their bogus DSM stigmas to push the latest lethal drugs on patent as well as electrical and surgical lobotomies. I am very glad that his works helped you to see through this fascist agenda and that you give him the credit he so greatly deserves for standing alone and unsupported and withstanding the many attacks he endured for fighting against ECT, lobotomy, “the war against children of color,” and so many other atrocities committed by the horrific psychiatry/DSM assault on humanity. He certainly deserves to be called the “conscience of psychiatry” and continues this battle to this day in his many books, web sites, numerous media articles and appearances in the media and before Congress. I am very glad that his works helped you to see through this fascist agenda and that you give him the credit he so greatly deserves. I am glad to see that he has lived to be totally validated for taking the brave stand that he did that helped so many people during this crisis of conscience and humanity.

    Of course, all too many politicians have been enriched with generous campaign and other “contributions” by Big Pharma by selling out to biopsychiatry with its revolving door with government and Big Pharma, so it is little wonder that they have colluded in creating the “therapeutic state.”

    To argue that electroshock should be an available choice is like saying bloodletting with leeches should still be a valid medical choice as well. Plus, even if somebody like Kitty Dukakis wants to fry her brain to a zombie state, that doesn’t mean she should be allowed to put others at equal risk. Have you seen/read the highly regarded book, Doctors of Deception by a highly educated woman who became a victim of ECT herself? The fact that Ernest Hemingway, Sylvia Plath and Virginia Wolf all killed themselves after being manipulated/forced to have ECT because they lost their memories and ability to write/create says it all.

    What is most vile is that the KOL’s of psychiatry ensured that no social or environmental stressors such as rape, abuse, bullying, mobbing, oppression, injustice, racism, sexism, growing inequality, poverty or other nasty isms would be considered in their junk science DSM to blame the victims of their corporate and other old boy network cronies to prey on them with impunity with special focus on women and children in typical cowardly fashion. Robert Spitzer, the narcissist editor of DSM III, admitted that if such causes of their junk science DSM stigmas were considered, the whole house of cards would fall apart. Fortunately, Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH has been forced to admit that the DSM is like a dictionary while none of its stigmas like the latest fad fraud bipolar have a shred of validity, evidence, science or anything medical behind them. Of course, anyone doing any research has been all too well aware of that for decades.

    I look forward to reading more of your “take no prisoners” approach when calling a spade a spade when exposing biopsychiatry in your future articles.

  • Richard,

    I find it odd that you are so willing to give any psychiatrist the benefit of the doubt no matter how much harm done while routinely disparaging those who have strong spiritual and/or religious beliefs. In fact, I have told you I have a Christian background and though I don’t take every word in the Bible and other religious/spiritual works literally and still struggle with my own spiritual path, I have found much value in learning about various world religions and their commonly shared wisdom like the golden rule and other important aspects of conducting one’s life. As a result, I find your constant attacks on religion/spirituality quite offensive and I believe others may feel this way too since some people posting at MIA have expressed strong religious/spiritual beliefs. I have held my tongue many times, but I have to tell you that I would appreciate it if you would refrain from such comments since I respect your freedom to have your own atheist beliefs, so I think you should do the same with others’ religious/spiritual beliefs since being one or the other should not be a requirement for this movement any more than one’s sex, sexual orientation, political party, etc. You don’t have any proof that God doesn’t exist do you? Many scientists believe in God and all the more so after studying quantum physics and other scientific realities. See the book, The Tao of Physics.

    Also, I strongly resent psychiatry, you or anyone dictating that I or anyone else cannot discern who is evil by their words, actions and other traits for my own personal safety and that of my loved ones, friends, etc. I can assure you that I have known very evil people who did immense harm to others in very sneaky underhanded ways while maintaining a phony superficial charm and other traits that hoodwinked the majority so that their victims were destroyed. You must be aware of the mob mentality that such people like Hitler can incite. Moreover, one’s character is very crucial in powerful political, teaching, medical, legal, religious and other professions, and the lack of such character these days is what is destroying our world not to mention the mental death profession. Also, people who have religious/spiritual beliefs can/could become strong allies, which is why Robert Whitaker and many mental health experts went to the Vatican to appeal to them about the harm being done to children by psychiatry. And the new very popular, humble Pope Francis who is focusing more on the poor and disenfranchised while chastising the many narcissists in the church in the pews and in the Vatican may be all the more open to helping such children. To put it in perspective, Pope Francis says he is a sinner too or makes mistakes, misses the mark as we all do as fallible humans.

    The Dalai Lama has also been a great source of influence in the world and the USA in terms of advocating for peace, well being and happiness for all, and many Americans have found much value in mediation and other spiritual practices from such Eastern religions.

    And there are many psychiatrists who do focus on the necessity of calling a spade a spade when it comes to the most vicious, sadistic, dangerous predators among us by acknowledging they are evil and should not be allowed back into society because of such dangerousness. I find it odd that certain psychiatrists who are so concerned about the rights of psychopathic intraspecies predators who commit physical and/or emotional, verbal, psychological, financial, spiritual, soul murder have no problem preying on normal people in crisis with life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs that destroy every area of their lives though they know they are committing fraud and I define as evil. Sorry, but both predatory behaviors are very evil in my opinion and I won’t be censored because you wish to force your atheism, vocabulary, ethics and beliefs on everyone in the movement. Whether Satan is a metaphor or real, he fits the bill if you compare some Bible passages with the traits of psychopaths and malignant narcissists. Ted Bundy anyone who wore a fake cast to charm, manipulate women into going to his car to help him unload his boat in order to torture and kill them?!

    Here are some psychiatrists debating the very thing you abhor with some thinking that to identify evil people is essential while others saying the opposite and there are many others who think a focus on evil is a necessity in psychiatry and life in general like Dr. M. Scott Peck, Psychiatrist and Christian, in his best selling books, The Road Less Travelled and The People of the Lie (with the latter focused on identifying evil people to help them while saving their victims from sure destruction).

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/08/health/psychology/08evil.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

    Recently, we had this superb article by Rev. Dr. Steven Epperson, a minister of the Unitarian Church, which could not be more perfect in exposing psychiatry’s many crimes against humanity, which caused Dr. Sandra Steingard to deem it “brilliant” while many others applauded it as an excellent, thorough critique of most if not all that is wrong with psychiatry. Would you bar Dr. Epperson from making such a fantastic argument against psychiatry due to his spiritual beliefs and identification with a church ministry? I think we need to see people as unique individuals rather than judging them or dictating that they must fit a certain image to participate in the movement.

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/07/psychocracy-community/

    As you know, I have praised many of your great contributions to MIA, but I have not been in the least bit pleased with your insulting remarks about religion/spirituality and I think you may be offending/turning off others when doing this as well since many MIA members have identified as being Christian or another type of religion/spirituality.

    Finally, though I applaud your hard efforts to contribute to this worthwhile cause and to admit when you think you may be wrong about such terms as “antipsychiatry,” I am asking you to at least be as concerned about your fellow survivors/fighters in the antipsychiatry movement who do not share your religious views or lack thereof.

    I regret that I must write this, but I think you should give it some thought in terms of the many people you may be alienating when there is no need to do so.

    Thank you for considering my input on this important issue.

  • This is a very important topic that I think applies much more widely than implied in this article because surveys show that more and more people, especially younger ones don’t necessarily identify with a main stream religion, but they do say that spirituality is very important to them

    It’s obvious that people in the U.S. and elsewhere have done much exploring in religions like Buddhism and various religious practices like meditation, chanting, mysticism, centering prayer and others while having as much enthusiasm about the Dalai Lama as they do the Pope, especially the charismatic, humble Pope Francis. It’s late and I know I’m not being really inclusive, so I’m sure others can add plenty of examples too. What’s great about this is seeing books like Jesus and the Buddha as Brothers by Thich Nat Hahn, a great guru and best selling author.

    I think it is horrific that since its inception the KOL’s and others dictating the direction of psychiatry did all in their ill gotten power to destroy the best aspects of family, religion, schools, community and other important social networks, so they could gain complete power and control over people to pursue their evil world order/global agenda while destroying these crucial social structures and supports. We can certainly see where these psychopaths have led each country on a virtual suicide mission while these parasites have sucked the globe dry of all of its resources and powers for their insatiable greed, lust for complete power/domination of others, sadism and reckless disregard for the welfare of others’ present and future.

    We at MIA can certainly see psychiatry’s great substitute religion with their great Satanic DSM Bible to prey on one and all from literal cradle to grave with their life destroying stigmas and brain disabling chemical, electrical and surgical lobotomies to create a docile, zombie like majority, so the psychopaths can exert the most vicious, pernicious social control and domination with no interference from those they threaten and terrorize with their latest fascist agendas.

    Perhaps such growing insecurity, misery and threat also motivate people to turn to more spiritual practices to find the best ways to cope and find remedies/answers about human suffering from both traditional and new religious/spiritual resources.

    I don’t mean to direct attention from the blacks of this article since I have always been very moved by the seeming immense faith of black slaves and those who gained their freedom and their focus on singing great hymns and gospel music that started many of them on the road to stardom. I love Tyler Perry and similar movies that focus on that type of deep spirituality and faith among black people and he include much singing and music in his shows. Heroes like Martin Luther King were/are amazingly influential spiritual leaders who continue to inspire us today including among psych survivors always quoting him and other black spiritual giants like Desmond Tutu. I’ll end with some of his many quotes:

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/desmond_tutu.html

  • This is fantastic news!! I just realized that perhaps this might be a group that might work with survivors to continue to stop the poisoning of the elderly in nursing homes, assisted living, etc. while becoming interested in stopping the poisoning of other vulnerable groups like children, toddlers, babies in utero and down the line to include the whole human race.

    Those in this great article who saw first hand the horrible deterioration and even ultimate death in a short time from deadly, brain disabling neuroleptic and other psych drugs, ECT and other horrors would be in an excellent position to see that subjecting children and babies to such poisons is a very horrible, dangerous thing to do.

  • Hi Copy Cat,

    Thanks for all of your informative posts. I didn’t know Snakes in Suits by Dr. Robert Hare and Dr. Paul Babiak is now online since I own it. I highly recommend it to those who want to know the real reason why our world is in such a nasty, horrible state with these psychopaths of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/government/prison industrial complex preying on our children to expand their multibillion drug and other profits since children/toddlers/babies in utero are the most “lucrative market” now as former Pharma rep Gwen Olsen exposes on her web site. And as we all know their attitude is that if the 1% robber barons and their shareholders can get all the more filthy rich, then, the consequences of children be damned!

    Here is one of several books exposing the horrors of stigmatizing and drugging our children:

    http://www.amazon.com/Drugging-Our-Children-Profiteers-Antipsychotics/dp/0313396833

    If you check out the “look inside” feature of the book on display, you will see an article by Robert Whitaker on the toxic effects of neuroleptic and other psych drugs on children.

    Another book by the same editor on “Bipolar Children” with expert contributors including Dr. David Healy, Robert Whitaker, etc.:

    http://www.amazon.com/Bipolar-Children-Cutting-Edge-Controversy-Childhood/dp/0275997308/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1405274697&sr=1-5

    Book Description:

    Over the last decade, the number of children diagnosed with bipolar disorder has increased up to fortyfold. This is a trend exclusive to the United States, and one that, alarmingly, leads to most of the diagnosed children—some still in their infancy—being prescribed antipsychotic drugs, often in combination with anticonvulsants. These classes of drugs have dangerous side effects, including a doubling of mortality rates, shortened life span, extreme weight gain, and Type II diabetes. In this book, psychologist Sharna Olfman leads a team of widely known experts who examine that astonishing rise in the diagnosis of pediatric bipolar disorder, particularly in the absence of any compelling evidence for either the validity of the criteria being used to diagnose it or the safety and effectiveness of the drugs being used to treat it. When a child is unnecessarily prescribed antipsychotic and anticonvulsant drugs, his or her mental and physical health may be irrecoverably compromised, says Olfman. With as many as two-and-a-half million children from across the socioeconomic spectrum now taking antipsychotics, we have set the stage for widescale child abuse.

    The contributors to this revealing and disturbing volume include psychiatrist David Healy, one of the world’s leading authorities on psychotropic drugs; pediatrician Philip Landrigan, an internationally renowned health researcher; and Robert Whitaker, an award winning medical journalist. The contributors identify and explain complex and interrelated factors that have set the stage for the pediatric bipolar epidemic, and they recommend practice and policy changes to stem the tide of misdiagnosis and dangerous drug prescriptions.

    Can there be any doubt that only very evil, predatory, greedy people/corporations could devise such a scheme to make billions by preying on children with life destroying bogus, voted in stigmas by DSM committees now declared invalid by Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH, to push the latest lethal drugs on patent that are known to cause the many physical harms listed above and elsewhere?

    As described in Political Ponerology and other sources, the so called “global police” are now the real criminals!

  • I hope you realize I meant web address rather than email address for the Aftermath web site.

    Of course, there are good Christian/religious books on the topic of evil with one of my favorites by Dr. Martin Buber, called Good and Evil, which gives much food for thought.

    The People of the Lie by Dr. M. Scott Peck, a Christian psychiatrist, discusses the concept of evil people and the huge damage they do to others.

    The Bible has many examples of evil people throughout the entire work that match those listed by experts above fairly well.

  • Correction:

    Here is the full email address for the psychopath recovery web site, Aftermath, initiated by Dr. Robert Hare, to help “survivors” cope with the typical devastation caused by these “charming” manipulative predators:

    http://aftermath-surviving-psychopathy.org/

    Here is the full web address for the psychopath recovery web site, Lovefraud, to help survivors of psychopaths in romantic and family relationships cope with them as well:

    http://www.lovefraud.com/

    Both of these have been recommended by Dr. Robert Hare, recognized world authority on psychopaths.

    There are tons of other web sites, articles and blogs about psychopaths and narcissists on the web as well as books and articles at Amazon and other sources, but not all are created equal. Thus, I have provided the basic recognized experts with Dr. Robert Hare as the foremost expert who based much of his work on that of Dr. Hervey Cleckley with both included in my above list.

  • Copy Cat,

    My idea in posting the information about psychopaths is to consider all the current robber barons or 1% with their crony capitalism and global “shock doctrines,” constant wars and other predation to rob people, other countries and the globe of all their wealth and resources for their own insatiable greed, lust for power and lack of conscience/empathy/remorse for the devastation they inflict on millions of people and the environment, water/food supply, etc. The psychiatry/Big Pharma/Government cartel is part of this nightmare as is well know by anyone having researched the fraud and devastation caused by this predatory, deadly enterprise with its only agenda making billions while blaming the victims and exerting vicious social control and robbery of all human rights from those they target.

    But, you raise another good point about schools monitoring for possible psychopaths/sociopaths in this surveillance. Based on my research children and teens aren’t inclined to be labeled psychopaths because it’s seen as a devastating label. At younger ages, kids are “diagnosed” with conduct disorder and oppositional defiant disorder and more recently and more likely ADHD and/or bipolar to force a lethal cocktail of drugs on them. I have expressed my disgust elsewhere at MIA that I have noted that serial killers, rapists and abusers as well as their victims all tend to be given the bogus bipolar stigma so the toxic drugs can be forced on one and all. I have read that this was the plan of the original DSM committee with the horrible narcissist Robert Spitzer at the helm in that they created bipolar as a garbage can stigma like schizophrenia where they could stick anyone from psychopaths to their victims and I’ve seen that happening a lot. I noted that Gary Sampson and Robert Hanson, both serial killers were given bipolar stigmas. I was shocked that Dr. Ragins posting at MIA said in passing that rape victims are given bipolar stigmas as if that was the most natural thing in the world. Experts elsewhere acknowledge that abused women and children are routinely stigmatized as bipolar now rather than the former insult stigma of borderline personality disorder for their Complex PTSD. Needless to say, any abuse trauma experts like Dr. Judith Herman and Dr. Carole Warshaw are appalled at such misdiagnosis and related huge harm and retraumatization, but the biopsychiatry cartel must make those billions by forcing their neuroleptic/epileptic lethal cocktails on vast numbers of women and children especially since they are easier marks.

    Experts thought that one of the Columbine killers was a psychopath, but I’ve also heard that many of these school shooters were bullied a great deal.

    Believe it or not, people have to do pretty horrible things to be considered psychopaths by real experts and even their victims. Only a small percentage of the population is thought to be psychopathic, but the problem is that they are excellent at manipulating, conning, inciting, smear campaigning and other nasty tricks to instigate groups of people against each other and to mob and bully people that are in their way. Psychopaths hate authority figures anyway, so they always target bosses and anyone in a more powerful position. Malignant narcissists are another group of nasty people similar to psychopaths.

    Finally, this is just psychological language to describe evil people. Some psychiatrists are studying evil now like Michael Stone, so these terms aren’t set in stone.

  • Ute M. Kraemer,

    Given that the psychopathy literature has many experts who write about these predators and their victims, I find your comments very insulting to me, naive and “childish” in themselves though you accuse me of these “crimes.”

    Have you studied any of the experts on psychopathy and/or malignant narcissism? Read any accounts by the many victims of psychopaths and/or malignant narcissists in books and all over the web and described on many web sites?

    If you have not been targeted or victimized by one of these intraspecies predators, consider yourself lucky, but by denying they exist, you are negating the agony of all Ted Bundy’s and Bernie Madoff’s many victims of physical and financial murder as well as the thousands of humans who were conned and harmed greatly due to these social chameleons. There are many web sites for the victims including Lovefraud.org and Aftermath.org that have world authority Dr. Robert Hare’s seal of approval.

    You would be wise to read some of the literature I cited above so that you will learn to recognize the red flags of these dangerous predators in romance, work, community and in general. Dr. Martha Stout gives a list of 13 warning signs you are dealing with a person with no conscience, empathy or humanity in her book, The Sociopath Next Door.

    Of course, these are terms for evil people with their evil traits and disguises studied for the purpose of helping people avoid their predations as is true in many religious works and wisdom.

  • Eli Silly,

    AbleChild is anything but a Scientology front group. These mothers started this group when they saw their own children threatened by the mental death profession and fought to have laws put in place to protect their own and others’ children. I believe it was Bob Whitaker who pointed out that there might be a misconception in that CCHR, a separate arm of Scientology, fighting psychiatric abuse, gave Ablechild an award as they have others who have no connection with them.

    As many have acknowledged, CCHR has done an excellent job of researching and publishing information about the many crimes perpetrated by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/Government cartel while quoting many dissident, critical psychiatrists and others in the field exposing and fighting psychiatric fraud and even giving some awards though they have no relationship or other ties. Like anyone else, if a credible person makes a public statement, anyone is free to quote it as is the case with Scientology quoting many critics of biopsychiatry’s massive fraud.

    Since psychiatry’s smear campaign has been so vile and vicious toward anyone daring to challenge their malignant narcissistic entitlement and grandiosity just at it is for their individual victims they lure in with the pretense of help only to completely destroy their lives with horrible stigmas; chemical, electrical and surgical lobotomies and robbing them of everything that was ever important to them including their freedom, career/job prospects, families, children, future and all human, civil, democratic rights. This vicious destruction of so many people in the guise of mental health for pernicious social/fascist control for our therapeutic state by psychiatry just exposes them as the pot calling the kettle black when they attacked Scientology as a dangerous cult because the latter group did such an excellent job exposing psychiatric fraud and the enormous harm they do to anyone who has the misfortune to naively trust them and/or get into their web of deceit.

    Thus, though Scientology has been criticized for their beliefs and tactics, the mental death profession serving as an arm of our growing police state with the full force of unconstitutional laws and violation of all democratic principles and freedoms can be forced on one and all with the full force of our therapeutic state as the enforced religion or cult of the land unlike Scientology. Thus, psychiatry’s attacks on Scientology and other critics is just a diversion tactic to hoodwink the public about their never ending goal of world domination and tyranny as they demonstrated when they instigated the Nazi Holocaust with their vile eugenics theories they continue today when they gassed to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill” or “human vermin” as practice before moving their gassing/killing apparatus to concentration camps to expand their sadistic agenda.

    It’s really gotten so ridiculous in terms of this empty ad hominem attack to quell any criticism of psychiatry’s junk science and destruction of countless lives that all too often, when I post comments about the most outrageous, dishonest claims about “mental health,” I am immediately asked if I am a Scientologist with no consideration of my comment or the quackery presented in the article. This pathetic question is considered enough to silence others with no defense of the bogus article in question by the “critic.” This is pretty pathetic that psychiatry has to use this straw man to evade the truth and all responsibility for their pernicious stigma/drugging agenda.

    Anyway, when I am asked if I am a Scientologist because I exposed some lie or fraud in a mental death article, I ask if the critic could at least be original and expose the childish bullying and evasion technique for what it is: a low level below the belt tactic used by emperors wearing no clothes!

  • A list of some of the best known experts on psychopaths or evil people with no conscience, empathy, compassion or guilt, which allows them to act as intraspecies predators on normal humans while using charm, deceit and flattery to exploit and prey on others by finding and exploiting their human weaknesses while psychopaths are able to study and mimic normal human emotions and behaviors while hiding in plain sight. As Dr. Hervey Cleckley said, “They know the words but not the music.”

    Political Ponerology (A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes) Paperback – April 4, 2007
    by Andrew M. Lobaczewski (Author), Laura Knight-Jadczyk (Introduction

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/1897244258/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=38425178582&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3442588652872571396&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_8yd6sj0v9r_b

    http://www.ponerology.com/

    http://www.ponerology.com/articles.html

    http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510

    http://www.amazon.com/Snakes-Suits-When-Psychopaths-Work/dp/0061147893/ref=pd_sim_b_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1PGGFVCJMB2GQD6ZG2FB

    Psychopathy issue of FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin with Dr. Robert Hare
    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/july-2012/leb-july-2012

    http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_z

    http://www.amazon.com/Mask-Sanity-So-Called-Psychopathic-Personality/dp/1258164132/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1405123031&sr=1-1&keywords=the+mask+of+sanity+an+attempt+to+clarify+some+issues+about+the+so-called+psychopathic+personality

  • Rob,

    I have delayed commenting on this superb article since I read it the first day you posted it because though I was/am certainly aware of the growing predation on our children by psychiatry/Big Pharma/government to push their life destroying stigmas and lethal drugs and other brain/body disabling “treatments,” I was not aware of the whole horrific deliberate surveillance part of this travesty in so many ways including all those shared electronic records you cited. You describe this menace so thoroughly whereby there are so many so called “professionals” policing children in and out of school it seems it is almost impossible to escape this death trap of biopsychiatry for children and families. With the ongoing brainwashing of parents and society with the NAMI type Big Pharma front group sales pitches along with the usual infomercials from psychiatry and so called government health agencies for the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel, it is all too easy for unsuspecting parents/families to get caught up in this deadly trap because it is shocking and hard to accept that so called health experts or doctors could be so evil, corrupt and predatory since many naïve people still trust them completely without doing their own homework. Many of us here have been there having to learn the hard way about our naïve, misguided trust as so called medicine became increasingly corrupt largely “thanks” to the great KOL “leadership” of psychiatry exposed a great deal by Mickey Nardo of 1boringoldman. Yet, having encountered this with loved ones years ago, it was nowhere near as all encompassing as it is now, so it was “easier” to avoid/escape with the great advice of those like Dr. Peter Breggin with books like Toxic Psychiatry and Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed.

    I also didn’t comment immediately after reading this because I felt really angry that this is going on while also feeling sick to my stomach that this is happening to children worldwide! I suppose that it is a positive thing that the people you included in the article are still brave enough and able/willing to speak out, but is it doing any good or are they just being ignored or worse fired, punished, bullied/mobbed into silence or quitting as happens to such whistleblowers all too often if you read Dr. Heinz Leymann’s Mobbing Encyclopedia online? Or the many work bullying web sites throughout the world.

    I see now that Aldous Huxley with his Brave New World whereby society would all be drugged zombies on “soma” and George Orwell with his 1984 and Animal Farm exposing Doublespeak and the total robbery of all freedom by Big Brother or the “pigs” at the top who “were/are more equal then others” in their version of “democracy” were seeing the beginning of the end for humanity once the psychopaths or 1% hijacked the globe as they’ve pretty much done by now as described in the book and web site, Political Ponerology. It is quite apparent that normal humans have a very tough road ahead.

    All that I can say is that for your article to get to me that much shows what a fantastic, thorough, amazing job you did to present such a complete frightening, crucial, truthful picture of what is happening to so called human freedoms in so called democracies in North America and other parts of the world. What I mean is you did your job as a journalist all too well!

    As I said elsewhere: True words often aren’t beautiful and beautiful words often aren’t true.

    Since you did all the research and probably couldn’t include all that you found, I would like to know from you if you think there is any hope in turning this growing global assault on our children around or do you think it is too late? Do you think home schooling might be the answer or do these “experts” have that covered too with their Big Brother surveillance? Do you think enough people have caught on to the true motives and agenda of this so called mental health “screening, stigmatizing and drugging” or do you think most people are clueless about it or complicit? Since medicine has become so corrupt it’s best to avoid it unless one has an emergency. That Dr. Sandra Steingard, psychiatrist, who posts at MIA, says that is what she does to avoid medical harm, should give anyone pause when a doctor avoids the medical profession as they often avoid the toxic treatments they dole out that they wouldn’t inflict on themselves or their own families.

    Again, both of these articles on the screening and surveillance of children are amazing and all too informative to the point that I hope you might give us a bit of hope or a glimpse of a bright side you may have seen while doing all the research for this very hard hitting article. I guess what gives me some hope is all the people you included who were willing to speak out and expose this destructive, fascist, greedy, predatory, psychopathic agenda that poses a huge threat to children and families everywhere.

    Thank you for your hard work in researching, writing and sharing these amazing articles. Thanks to Bob Whitaker too!

  • B,

    Once again, you have provided evidence that when either psychiatry or survivors apply a one size fits all approach to unique individuals, there is going to be disagreement and even resentment.

    So, I said that I found inspirational, humorous works very helpful and inspiring while you said you feel the opposite way. And we’re both right because we are different people. Same thing with your reacting differently from me in my exchange with Whoopsie. Wonderful! You’re showing that we are not just unfeeling robots defined by labels and fables like the horrible DSM stigmas, but rather, unique individuals who can experience things in thousands of different ways. That’s why we share with each other on these blogs, right? And as I said, I love that saying, “Take what you need and leave the rest.” I already reminded Whoopsie of that as I tried to explain my response to her based on what I found most helpful in my past.

    Therefore, I hope you will respect my unique feelings, interpretations and what works for me just as I certainly will do for you.

    Thanks for you response.

  • B,

    I agree that enforced “positive thinking” can be phony and inhumane as in the book, Bright Sided, whereby the author writes about people giving her grief because she wasn’t positive enough about her breast cancer diagnosis. Give me a break. She discusses many of the negatives of the positive thinking movement in this book.

    I did not have a problem with Whoopsie being down, crying out for help, complaining or any of that. What concerned me is that she came off as attacking everyone at MIA instead of trying to reach out to them/us and share in mutual problems, trauma, suffering, health/drug questions/support, etc. I just tried to say I’ve learned the hard way that even though anger is a trauma symptom most people have a very hard time coping with their own and others’ anger for any great length of time especially when both may be suffering from distress, trauma, etc. that can be easily triggered. So, I was suggesting maybe sharing without the seeming attack might get Whoopsie and her friends better and more support from those sharing the same problems in the long run.

    When I cited Norman Vincent Peale and his Power of Positive Thinking, I said I was surprised but impressed that Peale had been depressed and down a lot in his life, so I give him a lot of credit for making this effort to help himself and others be more positive while even enhancing their sense of humor. It’s better than letting the broken record/tapes of trauma and misery keep playing in your head in the same stuck groove that makes you all the more miserable and addicted to misery! Like getting outside and getting active as you recommended, this type of “positive thinking” is for your own health, well being, stress management instead of being your own worse abuser, enemy, companion with constant negative, miserable rehashing of the traumatic past that is hard for even the victim to tolerate in the long run never mind family, friends, coworkers, etc.

    One thing I like in Peale’s book is when he met with a very depressed person, Peale asked if he would like to go to a place where all his problems would be solved completely. The depressed person said yes with great enthusiasm.

    So, Peale walked with this person a distance and they came to a cemetery and Peale said that this is the only place where people have no problems, stressors, etc. He probably said it better, but it really hit me at the time that anyone living is going to have problems, stressors, challenges, losses, etc., so we have to accept that if we hope to survive and better, thrive. The other alternative Peale showed is not a great choice for most people.

    Anyway, that’s me. I enjoy reading inspirational, spiritual, positive things to boost my spirits. I’m sure everyone is a unique individual and has to find their own way to cope. Yet, those who have been there and survived and thrived can offer much valuable advice to others that I am always eager and happy to explore what has worked well for others.

    Take care.

  • Fiachra,

    I’m always glad to see how you were helped with psychotherapy after the great harm you suffered from psych drugs.

    Dr. Richard Bentall, a highly recognized expert in treating psychosis, “schizophrenia” and similar problems, has fought against main stream psychiatry’s failed stigma/drugging agenda for many years and conducts such CBT psychotherapy with his clients with many good results:

    http://www.amazon.com/Doctoring-Mind-Current-Treatment-Illness/dp/0814791484

  • Dr. Aslam,

    I think you answered your own question about the use of the toxic neuroleptics and other psych drugs causing much brain/body damage and a life shortened by about 25 years on average due to all the complications you include in your post not to mention the life destroying stigmas, loss of human, civil, democratic rights and self determination among other very negative factors.

    I give you credit for considering these hard questions and being willing to question the dangerous dogma you learned at school and listen to patients/survivors as well as critical psychiatrists at MIA and elsewhere instead.

    As far as what the KOL’s of the APA say about the studies showing the long term harm and low efficacy of neuroleptics long term while they cause huge harm, this is typical of them to continue this damaging paradigm despite all the evidence against it no matter how many people are destroyed. Even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has admitted that the DSM has no validity or scientific/medical evidence behind it and he has also admitted that antipsychotics do not work that well, can cause long term harm and that some may be far better off without them.

    If you read Robert Whitaker’s Anatomy of An Epidemic, he has cited information that shows that prior to psychiatry’s selling out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s and adopting their single minded drugging paradigm, people who really had symptoms labeled manic depression or schizophrenia tended to recover, return to work and lead normal lives and often have only one episode. Of course, now we have serial killers, rapists and abusers and their traumatized victims stigmatized as bipolar to push this latest fraud fad of psychiatry or their latest “sacred symbol” to justify their existence.

    Due to what Dr. Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist, and author of Toxic Psychiatry and Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed., calls brain disabling treatments used today, most people subjected to psychiatry’s toxic neuroleptics, ECT and other types of lobotomies, restraints and social control, never fully recover, return to work or have full meaningful lives while a vast number are on Social Security Disability for life at huge cost to the tax payer in addition to the huge cost of this fraudulent, deadly treatment in the guise of medicine so that the APA KOL’s, Big Pharma and corrupt government hacks could/can make billions at the cost of millions of destroyed lives. Of course, this is not about medicine but rather about obscene profits for the 1% and social control/eugenics in the guise of health to blame the victims for increasing injustice, oppression, inequality, global enslavement, theft of all global resources and wealth by the 1%, etc.

    I’m glad that you are questioning this failed paradigm of psychiatry. You may want to check out Dr. Loren Mosher, Dr. Peter Breggin and others who fought against this hijacking of psychiatry and promoted/promote treatments that help people.

    The following book, Pseudoscience in Biological Psychiatry: Blaming the Body is highly recommended in the review below:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/br-pibp.htm

  • Link to Dr. Fred Baughman’s great enlightening book exposing the fraud of ADHD, bipolar and stigmatizing and drugging children in general:

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    The ADHD Fraud: How Psychiatry Makes “Patients” of Normal Children Paperback –
    by Fred A. Baughman Jr. MD (Author), Craig Hovey (Contributor)

    http://www.amazon.com/The-ADHD-Fraud-Psychiatry-Patients/dp/1412064589/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

  • Younger children in the classroom likely overdiagnosed with ADHD
    Immaturity may lead to diagnosis of disorder (with some in class as much as a year older than the younger children given cutoff dates for enrollments)

    http://www.cmaj.ca/site/misc/pr/5mar12_pr.xhtml

    The fact that this happens routinely shows that any claims that ADHD is a bonafide brain disorder, disease, disability or anything close to being a “mental illness” is fraudulent and predatory to profit at the expense of these children/families. Such younger children may need some additional help, but they should be told the real reason and not be made to feel like some brain damaged mental case, which is very destructive to one’s whole life not to mention the toxic, useless drugs.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/07/how-childhood-trauma-could-be-mistaken-for-adhd/373328/

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/09/adhd-or-(normal)-childhood-narcissism/279660/

    The above adapted from following book:

    Back to Normal: Why Ordinary Childhood Behavior Is Mistaken for ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, and Autism Spectrum Disorder – by Enrico Gnaulati PhD

    http://www.amazon.com/Back-Normal-Ordinary-Childhood-Behavior/dp/0807073342?tag=viglink20242-20

    http://specialedpost.org/2014/02/10/is-adhd-a-problem-of-not-listening/

    http://www.claudiamgoldmd.blogspot.com/2014/06/adhd-at-4-violent-at-15-are-lessons.html

    http://www.claudiamgoldmd.blogspot.com/2014/06/insel-of-nimh-misses-mark-medication-as.html

    And I support Dr. Fraud Baughman, Neurologist and real brain expert, completely when he states that DSM voted in stigmas like ADHD and bipolar inflicted on children and adults now declared INVALID and lacking any science or other evidence by Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, are 100% fraud and the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity.

    He has written many excellent articles about how psychiatry ended up pursuing this fraudulent DSM path when neurology and psychiatry split with the understanding that the former dealt with real brain diseases/medical brain problems while psychiatry dealt with problems in living. It was only when Freudian analysis waned and the medical doctor of the APA got the smart, psychopathic idea to stress their medical training to hijack the whole mental health system that psychiatry decided to sell out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s and vote in about 300 junk science stigmas including ADHD and bipolar to push the latest lethal drugs on patent as “brain disabling treatments” per Dr. Peter Breggin that this social menace was unleashed with the latest predation for new Big Pharma markets on our children, toddlers, babies in utero and their mothers, the elderly (especially women per usual) and any other vulnerable populations. Robert Spitzer, the narcissistic editor of DSM III focused on treating people like rock specimens in his life destroying “bible” as he did with those in his personal life. He ensured that no environmental, relationship or other social stressors, oppression, racism, sexism, homophobia (to be removed later) or any other injustice, abuse, bullying, mobbing, rape, combat and other traumatic experiences would be considered at all. Spitzer did admit that if any such causes of the bogus stigmas in the DSM were considered the whole house of cards would fall apart. That’s why psychiatry must silence its critics and promote their fraudulent spin that the increasing inequality and predation by the 1% in power on the 99% that is causing so much stress and suffering is all in the victims’ heads or genes or whatever the lie du jour is today to blame the victims of gross injustice and violation of all their democratic, civil and human rights.

    I don’t deny that children and parents may need advice and help with problems of living and better parenting/discipline techniques, but to poison our children with toxic stigmas and drugs shows that our country/globe has lost its moral compass. I am very glad that more doctors and others are speaking out against these human/child atrocities.

  • Yes, I’ve seen these disgusting shows too with their fraudulent misrepresentations of the supposed great success of the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel. But, notice they don’t expose the fact that most such horrible acts are perpetrated by psychopaths/sociopaths/malignant narcissists because it hits too close to home.

    Also, one must consider all the destroyed lives and murder caused by the psychiatry/Big Pharma/corrupt government hacks cartel based on total deliberate despicable fraud, greed and lies. This makes it immediately obvious that their huge deliberate, massive global genocide in the guise of mental or other so called health as exposed in works like The Shock Doctrine and Political Ponerology makes any individual crimes done for any reason pale in comparison. Also, consider all the fraudulent wars like Vietnam, Iraq and others to enable the military industrial complex to aid and abet their crony capitalist pals around the globe to rob the world’s wealth and resources while enslaving the 99% with the big lie of anti-terrorism to rob one and all of their democratic rights and livelihoods. But, it’s hard for normal humans to comprehend psychopathic intraspecies predators with no conscience, empathy, compassion, ethics or shame, need for excitement, sadism and other deadly traits covered with glibness and excess charm as they ferrit out our human weaknesses and strengths to exploit, which is why we are so easily conned and victimized by them until we learn the red flags of their limited manipulative ploys. One can learn about such dangerous predators by reading Dr. Robert Hare’s great books, Without Conscience and Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work; John Clarke’s Working With Monsters or Dr. Martha Stout’s The Sociopath Next Door. For those who don’t like mental “health” labels and fables, just substitute the term “evil” for psychopath and sociopath or other character deficits. There are lots of great examples in the world’s wisdom/religious works. See Dr. M. Scott Peck’s The People of the Lie.

  • Andrew,

    I agree with Kermit that this is an excellent, mind blowing explanation of “motivational interviewing.” Given my experience with DSM psychiatry/psychology, I am pretty jaded when it comes to these newer approaches in “mental health,” but I am all for excellent types of self help or help in general that actually help rather than causing more harm.

    Based on what you say, I can see how it can be very helpful when used in an honest, ethical fashion unlike the unethical usage by drug companies that Dr. Healy exposes above. I don’t think Dr. Healy is criticizing MI, but rather, this corrupt usage of the technique to serve their nefarious, hidden agenda.

    As a matter of fact, the way you explain it, motivational interviewing can even be used for self help once one is taught how it works. There are very few decisions or actions in life that don’t cause us ambivalence, cognitive dissonance, approach/avoidance, mixed feelings or what ever terms we use to deal with the fact that there are usually pros and cons for everything we do. Benjamin Franklin suggested drawing a line down a paper and listing pros on one side and cons on the other and making a decision based on what seemed the best alternative.

    Anyway, though your explanation sounds simple, it helped me to see how this idea can help those like me struggling with any issue whether it’s avoiding toxic junk food (mostly prevail), cigarettes (I did quit), drugs, excess anger, procrastination (often driven by perfectionism) and all those other things that appear so obviously negative on the surface while we have subconsciously come to experience such self defeating habits or behaviors as providing some benefit even if only immediate gratification when stressed as opposed to the long term benefits of avoiding them.

    Allen Carr’s books on The Easy Way to Quit Smoking and The Easy Way to Lose Weight brings all these supposed benefits of these toxic habits to the surface so that you are forced to acknowledge and confront them rather than remaining paralyzed into inaction with denial or worse, constant failed attempts.

    So, the fact that you gave me helpful insights into my own struggles with your great explanation of MI, I can see where this could be very helpful, but as you and Kermit say, any abuse of this technique as with cognitive therapy for manipulative purposes will probably cause much resistance, a sense of betrayal and failure of this technique as well as any trust in the practitioner.

    Perhaps adjunct bibliotherapy might help as with David Burns’ classic books on cognitive therapy like, Feeling Good, Albert Ellis and others. Can you recommend any similar books/resources on motivational interviewing that you have found helpful? Kermit?

  • A new, very detailed article from the Lancet on Computational Psychiatry indicates to me that it is the same typical obfuscation and garbage in/garbage out agenda of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel to blame/focus on the victims’ so called pathology while lying and denying all the environmental stressors like abuse, bullying, mobbing know to cause the stress/trauma symptoms the biopsychiatry cartel uses to prey on the victims with life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs to make huge profits at their horrific expense in every conceivable way.

    From what I can see, this is just one more vile agenda to create even longer seeming scientific words and bogus algorithms and technology to hoodwink people now that their chemical balances, bad genes and other junk science lies are being exposed. I realized while reading this garbage that the fact that these malignant narcissists/psychopaths inventing this despicable medicalise to continue to act as global intraspecies predators against normal humans in the guise of “diagnosing” what is supposedly wrong with us is the ultimate insanity, perversion, sadism and viciousness perpetrated by the fascist governments imposing this monstrosity on normal humans in the guise of mental health to further allow their 1% cohort crony capitalists to prey on the rest of us with impunity while robbing us and the globe of all resources, wealth, decency, humanity and hope unless we can topple these sadists from their lofty perch.

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(14)70275-5/fulltext

  • Dr. Hickey,

    This is another very thorough, hard hitting excellent article on the ongoing SSRI antidepressant debacle/

    Have they no shame? Oh, right. You answered that by saying psychiatry is intellectually and morally bankrupt.

    If one is on to their PR spin games, it’s hard to stomach a lot of their articles since they have obviously been written by people with no conscience, empathy or concern for their fellow humans. But, the fact that these lies have been spread so widely through the media to push these toxic drugs on children/teens when they have been shown to have little if no efficacy beyond placebo in many studies and are known to cause suicide, violence, mania, apathy and many other dangerous side effects shows that many practicing psychiatry especially the KOL’s at the highest level are very dangerous, character disordered intraspecies predators in my opinion.

  • This is an excellent, hard hitting, very important article on the necessity to take news media reports of various health care findings with a very big grain of salt.

    Of course, those at MIA and studying all the dirty tricks in psychiatry’s so called medical literature are aware of many of the issues cited in this article that threaten one’s health and finances. But, it’s pretty amazing and discouraging to see how this crisis in the trustworthiness or lack thereof in the media about all of medicine has become so pervasive.

    Another great warning that anyone with a health problem should do lots of homework to discover any landmines before seeing one’s doctor who may be “duped or complicit” as the APA protest poster showed with Lucy of Peanuts ready to give her 5 cent advice. And much advice today is worth minus many thousands and one’s health and even life today, making modern medicine and its toxic drugs one of the leading causes of death.

  • Someone Else,

    If you read my latest response to Whoopsie, you will see that I really was trying to help based on my own experience in getting and needing some tough love to survive during my own life crises with abusers. I imagine that toxic psych drugs in withdrawal can be some of the worst abusers from what I’ve read.

    Anyway, I appreciate your support and compassion for both of us. I’m glad you shared more details about how you got through your own hellish experience and I liked the idea of your biking/exercising as well as doing other positive things to stay healthy and survive the psychiatric assault you suffered.

    I read a great quote once that went something like this:

    “True words are not always beautiful while beautiful words are not always true.”

    So, all I can say is that what I said came from the heart in the true spirit of really wanting to offer some real help rather than empty words that might have sounded better or “beautiful empty words.”

    Thanks again for your support and sharing, Someone Else. I really hope you do get better Whoopsie.

  • Whoopsie,

    I am really not the callous, hard hearted person you seem to believe me to be.

    There were times when I was in crisis in my own life and not at my best to put it mildly. Certain people gave me warnings and tough love advice that initially really ticked me off, but I realized that without them and my smartening up enough to take their advice, I would have never survived or escaped a very horrible situation thanks to some very abusive people in my life that are now out of my life completely. It’s pretty amazing I’m alive!

    I am very sorry to hear that you are going through such a tough time withdrawing from meds. Are you familiar with the web site, Beyond Meds?

    http://beyondmeds.com/2014/07/08/shaking-medicine-3/

    This is an excellent, very comprehensive and highly recommended web site if you haven’t checked it out. It is by a former therapist and she has tons of information on her site including drug withdrawal, etc.

    Is there a support group you can join to share and help each other through this difficult process or are you in one already?

    I know that you are angry and very concerned about yours and others’ plight, but if you check out Rob Wipond’s front page story at MIA about how psychiatry is preying on so many children to stigmatize and drug them, you can see that this multibillion dollar menace is not going to go away easily and continues to do much harm with impunity. We are all very angry and upset about this menace to our nation’s children especially while continuing to despise such an agenda for any human being. So it is certainly an uphill battle if you see what we are up against.

    Bob Whitaker, the founder of this web site has already accomplished a great deal with his excellent, hard hitting books exposing that psychiatry is like the emperor wearing no clothes with an increasing number of people getting the message as Bob speaks all over the globe and continues to blog about mental health.

    Anyway, I regret if I seemed to overreact to your post. I could have just remained silent and gone my merry way, but I felt I had to tell you my reaction to your post in the hope that you’d find a better way to attract more empathy and support from others while benefiting from the good vibes one gets when trying to help others yourself as well even in a more passive, quiet way if you don’t feel well enough to do much else.

    I was not trying to tell you what to do; I just passed along some good advice that was given to me when I was in the pits. There is a saying that applies here, “Take what you need and leave the rest.”

    I hope things turn out okay for you and your friends. I have done a great deal of research on “mental health and drugs” so I try to help by sharing what I know from both research and that best of universities known as Screw U.

    Take care. I hope it gets better for you.

  • Rob,

    This is a fantastic, very thorough article that should be widely distributed and read by every parent and citizen of the globe. This literal mental death assault on humanity is now global so that the 1% psychopaths in power can continue to rob the world’s wealth and resources and enslave/destroy the rest of us while making huge profits doing so. This is obviously the case with biopsychiatry and its life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs used for typical human problems, losses, crises and stressors that are quite common for normal people with a conscience, empathy, compassion and other human traits so sorely lacking in these psychopaths/malignant narcissists (or just plain evil) in power.

    The point that psychiatry serves as an agent for social control has been well known and exposed by those like Dr. Thomas Szasz and Dr. Joanna Moncrieff. Since psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma allowing them to make billions with their mutual fraud and ever expanding predation on one and all with their ongoing disease mongering in their junk science DSM, so called democracies have been turned into fascist “therapeutic states” with biopsychiatry/Big Pharma now the enforced state religion with its own Inquisitions and Witch Hunts. As with Stalinist Russia, they were smart enough to put their focus on brainwashing the children to mold their version of good, obedient citizens in the type of surveillance state you describe as the goal of our own so called democracies being bought out by Big Pharma and other corrupt oligarchies that are supposedly too big to fail or jail for their many crimes against humanity as well as too lucrative for politicians and other so called government officials to resist given the cost of getting elected and wealthy at the same time.

    Your exposure of the drug company KOL’s like Kutcher and his cohorts pushing their literal Big Pharma sales pitch juxtaposed with the long term experience, ethics and common sense of Dr. Mickey Nardo exposing this screening agenda as the further medicalization and drugging of typical environmental/social child stressors was superb.

    Anyway, I’ve been researching the “mental health” field for many years and I can’t think of anything to add to this fantastic, very eye opening, hard hitting article on the ongoing and growing global agenda to fraudulently stigmatize, drug and disable/destroy our youth so they will be unable to challenge these intraspecies predators in power as in “Occupy Wall Street” and other typical youth protests aimed at injustice by those in power. The term “intraspecies predators” comes from Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopaths and author of Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us and Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work. Dr. Hare consults for the FBI, police and other security people throughout the world. Perhaps he might be a good source for a future article on those without ethics or conscience in psychiatry and child psychiatry in particular.

    I will look forward to reading the second part of this enlightening article.

  • Actually, though I didn’t find your initial comment at all “humorous” as I said, oddly I felt you were dictating how others should “be, think, feel and act” while demanding we all help people like you in a very negative, guilt tripping way when this post was supposed to be a moment of humor that might inspire comraderie among psychiatric survivors and cheer up people at the same time since the humor is about our oppressors. Subversive humor can be very helpful to those fighting such oppressors.

    Although you are angry with my response, I was simply sharing my own hard won knowledge about human nature and how people tend to react to other people who are constantly negative, guilt tripping and so self involved they end up treating others quite badly while licking their wounds to the point of being narcissistic themselves. And I sure can understand how people can get to this point, but I also know it is self defeating and self destructive in the long run since it alienates people all the more while the victim is increasingly isolated and depressed. Just telling it like it is, so please don’t shoot the messenger. You could save a life today too.

    So, I guess I will say I am glad I could offer the help you demand by being a butt of humor for you since you didn’t/couldn’t see the humor in the post here and decided to ruin it for everyone else.

  • Dan,

    I think you are taking too narrow a view about the problems that get “treated” by psychiatry. Perhaps the medical issues you discuss may be relevant in some cases, but bear in mind that toxic long term stress can wear down one’s immune system and cause various illnesses too.

    I think a majority that psychiatry preys on today are those suffering emotional distress from typical human problems like domestic, work, school abuse/bullying/mobbing/rape and other human cruelty that can lead to post traumatic stress that can do a number on the body/mind as well. However, the most critical factor is to get validation about what is going on and find a way to free one’s self from the abuse causing the trauma. Only when the victim is free from their oppressor(s) can they begin to feel safe and focus on recovery.

    There are natural disasters, loss of loved ones through death or divorce, job loss, monetary loss and countless other misfortunes that can lead to human suffering. Sadly, psychiatry has robbed all of these normal human reactions to loss and medicalized and stigmatized them so they can profit from the suffering of their victims as they plotted when they sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s. Sadly, psychiatry refuses to acknowledge any of these social factors just as they ignore the medical problems you point out that may respond to the alternative treatments you cover.

    Therefore, I don’t think there is a one size fits all answer to what causes the so called symptoms psychiatry stigmatizes, but I know the answer isn’t for psychiatry to refuse to listen to what brought on the symptoms from the sufferers since they insist on ignoring all context or environmental/social stressors so they can stigmatize and drug the victims with impunity.

    So, your approach may be right in some cases with “schizophrenia” while it may not apply in many others whereby psychiatry has just medicalized typical human stressors and losses.

  • Someone Else,

    Thanks for your concern about my feelings in your comment. The point is that Whoopsie was failing to consider the fact that many at MIA have been through hell and not necessarily back either.

    I was only pointing out what I have observed in my own and others’ lives as well as books I have read on the subject. People going through really horrible, traumatic times due to nasty things like abuse and bullying in their lives tend to obsess about it a great deal and can drive their families and friends over the edge by their obsessive focus on it. And certain of these so called loved ones might start seeking out the “help” of psychiatry to cope with their annoying behavior, especially abusers looking to discredit their victims. Eventually, such victims are avoided and ostracized even by certain family, spouses, friends, coworkers and others creating a vicious circle because their negativity is so wearing and people in our narcissistic culture have far less tolerance for others’ suffering and problems now. The horror of such victims can be made a million times worse by the mental death profession if the victims don’t know enough to avoid them like the plague they are since even rape victims will now get a bogus bipolar stigma with the toxic drugs and other abuses as MIA members know.

    Anyway, I just think the way Whoopsie went about demanding help for herself and others was self defeating since her comment really turned me off when I was not in the best place or spirits when I read it. Her comment made me feel like I had been punched in the gut.

    You may have heard about the famous best selling book, The Power of Positive Thinking, by Norman Vincent Peale, a Christian preacher. He was the poster child for always trying to maintain a happy, cheerful, positive outlook and wrote many other books on the topic while starting Guideposts Magazine. I was quite surprised to learn that Peale had a tendency to be really down and depressed quite a lot, so that was why he wrote those books on positive thinking and living. So, just because one is advocating trying more positive approaches to life doesn’t mean they are living the life of Reilly. Perhaps it’s their own way of giving a pep talk to themselves as well.

    You are making the assumption that some of us have arrived to Happy Land while those like Whoopsie are way worse off. You may have heard that saying about not judging others until you’ve walked in their shoes.

    Anyway, I wasn’t trying to put Whoopsie down, but rather, simply let her know that her approach was not working at least with me, so I thought the most helpful thing I could do was tell the truth.

    Someone Else, I know from your story you’ve been through hell and back and I can see where it might have taken you some time to learn to cope and deal with such a massive betrayal. Did you find lots of people willing to listen and support you through your ordeal even at times when you were very angry and negative?

    If so, that type of support and compassion is pretty rare today with people increasingly isolated and alienated even from their families.

  • Dan,

    It looks like we were both preparing our recommendation for antipsychiatry.org at the same time. I’m glad you recommended it in your post as well along with many other great resources.

    I’ve been reading your posts and appreciate your efforts to share your wealth of information with us on a wide variety of topics related to MIA and survivors.

  • Great web site to add to my collection on antipsychiatry. Dr. Bonnie Burstow does a great job breaking down the various movements protesting psychiatry in various ways while providing excellent reasons for why she is antipsychiatry with a great, clear explanation of that as well.

    Her exposure of the pathetic kangaroo courts for those forced into treatment shows the despicable pretense of claiming legal rights are respected while going so far as to allow psychiatrists to drug their victims into oblivion right before the bogus trial so that they will be unable to even speak or stand never mind defend themselves. And none of this is questioned including the original violation of one’s rights by psychiatry and allowing them to continue such glaring abuses of power throughout the bogus court process whereby even the better lawyers are supposedly forced to go along given the ill gotten powers of psychiatry.

    I have heard of Dr. Burstow before, but wasn’t familiar with her website, so I am glad it has been covered at MIA.

    The Antipsychiatry Coalition is another excellent, valuable site with many great articles, especially the ones by Lawrence Stevens, J.D. citing all the fraud, quackery and huge harm done by all of psychiatry’s assaults on their victims including their junk science DSM stigmas:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/

    The book reviews are great with special emphasis on the excellent review of the great book, Pseudoscience in Biological Psychiatry:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/br-pibp.htm

    Other gems on this web site are by Don Weitz of Canada including Psychiatric Fascism and Why Psychiatry Should Be Abolished:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/weitz2.htm

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/25reason.htm

    Lawrence Stevens, J.D. does an excellent job proving that schizophrenia is a nonexistent “disease” among many other superb articles exposing the fraud of psychiatry’s spurious claims:

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/schizoph.htm

    There is much more great information here including classics of the antipsychiatry movement despite the fact that it hasn’t been updated recently.

    I highly recommend it.

  • Whoopsie,

    Are you familiar with the famous story of Norman Cousins who when confronted with a horrible, painful illness, he decided to use laughter as a major part of his treatment with very effective results:

    http://ag.org/wim/resources/books/book_reviews/br_0805_Anatomy_Illness.cfm

    http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Illness-Perceived-Twentieth-Anniversary/dp/0393326845

    The problem with your approach and attitude here is the well known problem of “emotional contagion” that just resulted in a Facebook scandal due to a secret, sneaky study on this topic as reported by MIA. Bringing others down to build yourself up may seem like a good idea, but many people can only tolerate such negativity for so long, so they will end up saying “so long” to those who are constantly miserable and totally negative since this is like a contagious disease of “misery loves company.” I know this sounds harsh, but I know from experience that given our very stressful society with a narcissism epidemic, I don’t think your demeans and demands are realistic from my own experience. Rather, if a person takes the attitude you portray, they will probably be avoided and isolated all the more. Those trying to help others like to feel that the people are trying to help themselves as well, which includes trying to adopt a more positive attitude with some reciprocation of empathy and concern for one’s helpers and other relationships. Otherwise, a vicious circle is created making the person suffering from toxic drug withdrawal all the more isolated, miserable and avoided with lots of excuses and busyness by would be helpers.

    The knowledge and understanding of emotional contagion for good or ill has been around for quite some time:

    http://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Contagion-Studies-Emotion-Interaction/dp/0521449480/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1404698140&sr=1-1&keywords=Emotional+contagion

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_contagion

    Finally, I found this post and the associated web site hilarious and informative at the same time. And such subversive humor can help a great deal in supporting comraderie for those fighting for a cause like those at MIA, so I must say you certainly put a huge damper on my enthusiasm with your highly negative attitude.

    I am very sorry to know about the suffering you and others are enduring, but it seems if you could find way to focus on more positive things like Norman Cousins above, you might find your situation more tolerable.

  • Here a therapist tries to enlighten others about a new epidemic they are encountering in their offices:

    http://narcissisticbehavior.net/narcissistic-victim-syndrome-a-new-diagnosis/

    http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/2006/11/narcissism-victim-syndrome-new.html

    http://aftermath-surviving-psychopathy.org/

    Isn’t there something evil, cowardly and vile that psychiatry deliberately preys on, blames and stigmatizes the victims of narcissistic and psychopathic abuse while aiding and abetting their fellow abusers to completely retraumatize and destroy the victims?

    Trauma/abuse experts like Dr. Judith Herman, Dr. Aphrodite Matsakis, Dr. Frank Ochberg, Dr. Carole Warshaw and others have exposed this tendency to blame the victims with the so called “mental health” profession the worst offenders in that they force life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs on survivors that will make it all the more difficult if not impossible to cope and survive. This is called a betrayal bond by Dr. Patrick Carnes and is a gross abuse of power that
    further shatters the trust of those seeking help in the medical, legal and other professions as also described in Dr. Janov-Bulman’s book, Shattered Assumptions:

    http://www.amazon.com/Shattered-Assumptions-Towards-Psychology-Trauma/dp/0743236254

    But alas, psychiatry does not recognize/admit any social, relationship or other stressors/traumas as a deliberate ploy to blame the victims of their fellow abusers in power and to profit from their suffering at the same time as their fellow abusers.

    Thus, to pretend that a stress/trauma symptom is a “mental illness” or “bipolar” is simply one more of many psychiatric crimes against humanity and women/children in particular in keeping with psychiatry’s ongoing sordid history of human rights violations.

  • As I said on another post, the “bipolar imperialists” like Nassir Ghaemi and his cohorts with their “bipolar mania/babble” world agenda exposed by Dr. David Healy in his book, Mania, and many articles, are trying to annex just about every bogus DSM stigma into their bipolar concentration camp of lifelong psychiatric slaves forced on lethal drugs to include just about everyone on the planet. Thus, it is very disheartening to see that they are now hijacking stress/trauma related physical symptoms like IBS mostly suffered by women to annex to their never ending bipolar fad fraud. It’s a total no win because now they are annexing anxiety, stress, depression, PTSD, borderline and now IBS into their horrific bipolar nightmare as supposed symptoms. Ghaemi has even claimed that he doesn’t even need to see mood swings for him to falsely accuse someone of being bipolar, which shows the absurdity of the never ending bipolar expansionism.

    So, anyone seeing some well known stressor, trauma, illness or some less than perfect behavior in any article that claims that this problem is now psychiatric and you see the word, “bipolar,” beware!!

    Obviously, women especially should never tell their doctors they have IBS because they will just be jerked around and tortured while their doctors will admit there is no cure while denying the victims’ trauma and life stressors to blame the victims. Now, to add insult to injury, they will say the usual, “it’s all in your head,” but add, “It’s bipolar.” And everyone knows that women and children are the main targets of psychiatry for obvious reasons.

    This is just another attempt to medicalize a well known stress/trauma symptom that is suffered by mostly women, which is no surprise in this increasingly sexist, misogynist country thanks to the hijacking of our government by the right wing and its crony capitalism, which includes the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    Here is an article exposing what most doctors lie and deny if you google IBS:

    http://psychcentral.com/news/2011/11/01/psychological-trauma-tied-to-irritable-bowel-syndrome/30933.html

    If you do google IBS, the great authorities will say they don’t know what causes it, but pretend it is some physical defect and have even invented some life threatening drugs to supposedly alleviate the symptoms!

    Anyway, I suffered from IBS for some time and consulted so called medical experts including gastroenterologists who jerked me around, prescribed deadly drugs that I avoided thanks to research, many useless, painful tests, etc.

    Finally, after more research, I realized that just eliminating the narcissistic/psychopathic abusers and bullies in my life cured my IBS like magic. Haven’t had a problem with IBS for years now since I’ve learned the warning signs of such predators! So much for the great supposed brain related disorder, disordered muscles, etc. After finding that many experts knew/know that IBS is caused by stress/trauma in many books and other sources, I realized that doctors and other so called experts were deliberately denying the truth to exploit me and collude with their fellow abusers in power.

    Caveat Emptor!

  • James,

    Thank you for your inspiring response. I think the positive communication, discipline and other strategies you cite in this great post are what are most helpful for struggling families and other challenging relationships. If you checked out the articles I posted on your last post, Dr. Claudia Gold of Child in Mind is a great believer in such an approach as well.

    On the other hand, just giving the problem a bogus life destroying stigma while scapegoating the least powerful person or child/subordinate to push the latest lucrative toxic drugs on patent is malpractice in my opinion.

    I’m very happy that you like C.S. Lewis so much. Are you still just reading the daily emails I find very inspiring or have you also been reading some of his many books/works? I would certainly be interested in knowing what if any of Lewis’ works you’ve read and liked since C.S. Lewis is probably my favorite Christian author. I agree that his honest, direct communication is remarkable and also agree with many others that he was the greatest spiritual giant of the 20th century. I must say that C.S. Lewis has helped me through many good and bad times since he suffered many such times himself including the death of his mother at a very early age.

    Finally, you can enjoy your children and C.S. Lewis at the same time by reading your children the Chronicles of Narnia and watching the related movies with the Disney versions the best. I know I said this to you before, but now having read C.S. Lewis, I think you would agree that his works would be equally great for your children I hope.

    Take care.

  • James,

    I think this is an excellent and very helpful article for parenting, families and all relationships. I have been reading about the great harm of the “self esteem movement” for many years that you point out. Your article does a great job showing how praise that is honest and earned through one’s hard efforts that lead to accomplishment and positive traits is far more effective than praise for one’s God given advantages since one has more control over the former and less control over the latter.

    I just googled “the failure of the self esteem movement” and many articles come up. One excellent article that covers many of the points you make is “Could Your Child Have too Much Self Esteem” by David Sack, M.D. Actually, I think the advice you both give is great for any relationship because I think both children and adults can usually tell if praise is deserved and honest. It would also seem that phony praise leaning toward mere flattery can do more harm than good that may even decrease self esteem if the receiver feels it is being done to just shore up one’s lack of accomplishment and/or low esteem. At the same time, having one’s hard efforts and resulting accomplishments praised, acknowledged and appreciated by people with mutual caring and respect is a boost to anyone’s esteem, health and well being.

    Another thing I like about your article is that it focuses on good old fashioned, timeless values and ethics while showing how many of the ever changing fads and theories of the “mental health” profession can do much more harm than good. One great book on this topic is Psychobabble: Exploring the Myths of the Self Help Movement by Dr. Stephen Briers:

    http://www.amazon.com/Psychobabble-Exploding-Myths-Self-Help-Generation/dp/0273772392

    You are probably aware of the very harmful advice of the mental “health” profession that one had to let out one’s anger/rage or it might explode and do one’s health much damage for quite some time. Later, these “experts” admitted that the opposite was true in that dumping one’s anger/rage on others not only destroyed relationships and others’ health, but also adversely affected the rageaholic, making the person all the more angry and addicted to such angry/raging behavior while impairing their own health to the point of heart attacks. A great book on this topic is Anger Kills written by a doctor with such an anger problem:

    http://www.amazon.com/Anger-Kills-Seventeen-Strategies-Controlling/dp/0061097535

    On the other hand, many children and adults suffer great harm to their physical, emotional, spiritual health and basic esteem due to emotional and verbal abuse in schools, homes, jobs and community at large that many say can be worse than physical abuse due to the hidden damage and scars of the former that do not heal as fast and well as those of physical abuse. Further, physical abuse leaves evidence whereby the damage can be seen and lead to the victims getting help/support while emotional/verbal abuse leaves only psychological scars with no such obvious evidence that may damage a person for life that many ignore or disbelieve while blaming the victims. This is especially true when one is dealing with a Jekyll and Hyde personality with a false image in public and the nasty one in private or when nobody is looking who scapegoats and smears his/her victims so they won’t be believed.

    Dr. George Simon has written the excellent book, Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, in which he explains that for much of the past neurosis was the major problem of people seeking help from Victorian times with many hangups, so most therapy was based on resolving these issues whereby people felt inadequate, false guilt and other debilitating feelings that interfered with their lives. Dr. Simon said that he learned the hard way that in modern times the problem of neurosis is much more rare while character disturbance or covert/overt aggressors known as the personality disordered are greatly on the rise. He gives great advice for understanding the ploys used by these manipulative, destructive people and finding ways to protect one’s self from them. Dr. Simon points out that the greatest mistake is that mental “health” professionals have tended to treat most if not all people from the stance of the theories of neurosis that not only don’t apply to the character disordered, but rather aid and abet them in their narcissism and psychopathy/sociopathy while aggressing against others. He shows how such theories are very harmful to the targets of such predators and gives great advice on how to find what makes the targets vulnerable and how to cope with the aggressors to at least have a fighting chance.

    http://www.amazon.com/Sheeps-Clothing-Understanding-Dealing-Manipulative/dp/1935166301/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1403734209&sr=1-1&keywords=wolves+in+sheep%27s+clothing

    http://www.amazon.com/Character-Disturbance-phenomenon-our-age/dp/1935166336/ref=pd_sim_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=19RKGH0NHME8NS08J481

    I only mention the angle of emotional/verbal abuse that can demolish one’s esteem to point out that a one size fits all approach does not apply to everyone as I am sure you know. Such abusers are great at unrelenting criticism, putdowns, yelling, rages and other very harmful behaviors that do a number on the esteem and well being of their targets.

    A great book on this is Patricia Evans’ The Verbally Abusive Relationship that has a comprehensive list with explanations of all the tactics that are typical of such verbal, emotional, psychological abuse:

    http://www.amazon.com/Verbally-Abusive-Relationship-recognize-respond/dp/1440504636/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1403735301&sr=1-1&keywords=the+verbally+abusive+relationship+by+patricia+evans

    I’ll end with a description of author Dr. Stephen Biers of Psychobabble that may be applicable to your work:

    Exposing the self-help myths that make us all more miserable. This is what your psychologist would really tell you-if he thought you could handle it! This is the kick up the backside the self-help genre needs: an intelligent, provocative and thought-provoking expose of the modern myths that we’re told make us happier, but in reality screw us up. Clinical psychologist, Dr Stephen Briers shines a light into the dark corners of self-help and explodes the myths, false hopes, quack philosophies and unrealistic expectations it routinely advocates. It is a refreshing antidote to the ‘same old same old’ approaches, offering a radical re-think of the way we approach problems in our lives, offering empowering new perspectives and expert advice on avoiding the biggest life traps. Dr Briers questions the perceived wisdom, shakes up the status quo, and encourages us to think again.

    Again, great, inspiring article that is a good reminder for everyone on how to promote honest, caring relationships that truly build people up rather than tearing them down. Thank you.

  • Jeffrey C,

    Very astute observation! When you consider this is a Big Pharma funded study, no surprise the corrupt “doctors” benefiting at the horrific expense of pregnant women and their babies is pretty hard to stomach. It’s also disgusting to see the headlines with their usual lies and spin to prey on and greatly harm babies in utero no less now that they have conned the public into poisoning children and toddlers with these drugs.

    What’s even more hypocritical and disgusting is that I read about one state that will now arrest and jail any mother who does “drugs” during pregnancy assuming these are most likely illegal drugs while the far more toxic, brain/body damaging psychiatric drugs are forced on such pregnant mothers and their babies. Only psychopaths and malignant narcissists like those who reign over the Big Pharma/Psychiatry cartel with revolving doors with government and the FDA could come up with such manipulative, contemptable tactics for more power, status and wealth for the 1% and its cohorts in crime.

    Here’s another take on the story that isn’t so positive:

    http://www.sertox.com.ar/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7423

    As usual, the despicable “doctor” pretending there is a great dilemma of weighing the real health and long term well being of mother and child against bogus, voted in stigmas to push these lethal multibillion dollar drugs on one and all with the pretense of treating dangerous and life threatening “mental illness” is so vicious and psychopathic it boggles my mind.

    The fact that such a “study” was even done with the well known horrible effects of both neuroleptics and epileptic drugs spun into gold with countless lies by Big Pharma/psychiatry that they are “antipsychotics” and “mood stabilizers” to treat invalid stigmas like bipolar and depression is so disgusting and predatory it boggles my mind. Note, the fiend in this article speaks of treating psychosis, an obvious lie/sham to make the poison drugs appear more critically needed when. The truth is women are targeted for so called depression/trauma CAUSED by such abuse, predation, exploitation, rape and other systemic harm that the mental death profession uses to blame the victims while profiting from their misery and further destruction by the mental/medical fraud professions. Obviously, those in the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel will sink to any low to further enhance their ill gotten corrupt power and billions enforced by the therapeutic state with no regard for the rights and health of its citizens including babies least able to protect themselves from such parasitic vulture/vampires. I feel nothing but contempt for those who would prey on pregnant women and torture them and their babies with these lethal drugs that ONLY do much harm with no benefit whatever. Hope some day these predators get their own well deserved Nuremburg Trials while we tax payers have to cope with all their latest Mengele experiments on babies and children since they obviously have no conscience, empathy or humanity to be able to do such things to fellow humans especially on the most vulnerable and helpless of all. This has got to stop!

    http://www.sertox.com.ar/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7423

  • Dr. John Breeding on years of effort to ban brain/memory damaging ECT:

    http://psychcentral.com/lib/dr-john-breeding-on-ect/0007290

    Shock Treatment, Brain Damage, and Memory Loss: A Neurological Perspective by John M. Friedberg, M.D.

    http://www.sntp.net/ect/friedberg.htm

    http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/Electroshock/electroshock.htm

    And tons more on the web by real experts who expose the current ECT pushers like megalomaniac Max Fink who has been lying about the horrible brain damage and memory loss from ECT throughout his sordid career to make a literal killing at his victims’ expense. Though he like other psychiatrists admitted early in his career that the purpose of ECT and psychiatric drugs were the brain damaging “therapeutic effects” of dumbing people down and robbing them of their memories, humanity and executive brain functions, Fink had to lie and deny the truth as psychiatry pretended to cure the bogus DSM stigmas they invented and voted in with Big Pharma/Business to torture and brain damage millions of people in the guise of medicine while really exerting torture and sadistic, fascist social control and severe punishment for anyone acting in any way but the robotic slave behavior approved by the psychiatric therapeutic state religion forced on one and all by robbing citizens of their civil, human, constitutional rights with impunity.

    The sooner psychiatry is exposed as an arm of the state to silence any critics or dissidents in keeping with one’s democratic rights just like fascist Stalinist Russia, the sooner the majority of people can reclaim their human rights and challenge the government of crony capitalism mainly serving the 1% hijacking the globe.

  • Copy cat,

    Thanks for continuing to drive home this excellent information to further expose the fraud used to promote both SSRI antidepressants as one of the gateway drugs to getting a bogus bipolar stigmas due to the iatrogenic effects of these and other useless, dangerous psych drugs and increased suicide risk. As Dr. Healy exposes, the so called bipolar risk of suicide is only due to the toxic drugs that often cause this fraud stigma like SSRI’s or those used to treat such iatrogenic harm such as epileptic drugs like Depakote fraudulently named “mood stabilizers” by Big Pharma. SSRI antidepressants are used for so called depression and serve as a gateway to a bogus life destroying bipolar stigma and a lethal cocktail of the worst combo of killer drugs including brain/body destroying neuroleptics and/or lithium to totally annihilate the person in every area of their lives to serve as fodder for the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel’s billions in profits from their destroyed lives.

    Dr. Healy exposes that the suicide risks of SSRI’s and so called mood stabilizers are the same. So, it appears when counting up the suicides in either case you can put them in either the depression/SSRI category or the bipolar/mood stabilizer category to further tweek the numbers to support whatever is needed for the fraud du jour.

    Dr. Healy also exposes the despicable truth that now that SSRI antidepressants are going off patent and there are new neuroleptics like Latuda and new depot drugs to make a killing torturing and brain damaging more people, disease mongerers like Nassir Ghaemi are trying to eliminate the depression label and annex that along with PTSD, anxiety, the borderline insult for complex PTSD of long term abuse/combat victims and anything else he can rob for his concentration camp of destroyed people falsely accused of the bipolar fad fraud that Dr. Joel Paris has called “bipolar imperialism” and Dr. Healy has rightly named “bipolar mania” and “bipolar babble.” Perhaps Ghaemi is projecting his own bipolar mania on everyone else on the globe, which makes him very dangerous to one and all for sure!

    The fact that main stream psychiatry could promote the vicious lie that so called depression and bipolar increase suicide risk that require drugs known to greatly increase suicide risk in our youth especially is so despicable it boggles my mind.

    The fact that psychiatry has been pushing the huge evil lie that their toxic, dangerous, useless treatments prevent suicide to force them on one and all via their fascist, predatory regime when in reality their lethal drugs and other abuses including ECT greatly increase death and suicide shows what happens when psychopaths and malignant narcissists gain control of an organization, medicine, government, corporations and increasingly the globe to push their “shock doctrines” to rob all the world’s wealth and resources while stigmatizing, scapegoating and poisoning one and all to make slaves of the rest of us.

    On the positive side, it is good to see many doctors/experts becoming increasingly vocal and outspoken about such destructive, evil, predatory fraud in the guise of medicine in both psychiatry and real medicine.

  • Thanks for your support Fred. I have literally howled with laughter over some of your comments, which have been of great help/consolation when considering our horrible misfortune of being born when biopsychiatry got the great idea to sell out to Big Pharma and invent bogus, life destroying stigmas with the predatory idea of using them to force their horrific, deadly torture “treatments” on most of the planet to make billions at the cost of countless destroyed/lost lives as the intraspecies predators/psychopaths they all were/are. This dirty trick was thought up by the medical expert of the APA at the time who came up with the brilliant evil ploy to exploit psychiatry’s bogus medical status and hijack the whole “mental health” system as Freudian analysis was waning and they faced too much competition from other mental health experts doing talk therapy.

    Since they helped Big Pharma make billions that also padded the pockets of corrupt politicians, FDA and other officials with revolving doors, and served as agents of fascist social control in the guise of medicine like Stalinist Russia, their power has grown exponentially and they have become increasingly invincible thanks to the backing of Big Pharma billions.

    However, there is some small hope now that Big Pharma has all but dumped psychiatry now that its reputation has been so tarnished by this association and they’ve been forced to pay billions in fines as a result of bogus studies, false advertising, promoting dangerous off label use of toxic drugs especially for children/toddlers no less and huge numbers of people disabled or dead from such fraud. Thus, Big Pharma has been pursuing other seemingly more lucrative markets as the truth about “toxic psychiatry” has become more evident and society and governments are being left holding the bag of the millions permanently disabled now on social security disability thanks to the fraud and deceit of the psychiatry/Big Pharma industrial complex.

    Another consequence of psychiatry led corruption in medicine is that because it has become increasingly so widely exposed on the web, in books, media and other sources, many people have become all the more aware that ALL of main stream medicine is corrupt and dangerous. Just taking so called medications as prescribed is one of the leading causes of death today. Thus, many are avoiding all of main stream medicine like the plague it’s become with examples like the latest statin horror show/betrayal perfect examples that such avoidance is the safest thing to do.

    Anyway, thanks again for your validation and nice to hear from you! And can we have more of your hilarious comments? You’ve gotten too serious lately like me! Ha Ha

  • Hi Jonah,

    Thanks for your hard efforts to write this comment to further help to validate my reality and feelings after my own very frustrating/upsetting encounter with Francesca with her typical insulting remarks, bullying and pretense that she is the dictator of some nonexistent supposed unified movement here to win over main stream psychiatry. Yet, in mine and others’ opinion this is not only a lost cause, but rather, if I was winning over main stream psychiatry, I’d question my own sanity not to mention a total loss of any ethics or honesty.

    As you know, you and I have had debates in the past and even greatly disagreed at times, but our capacity for mutual respect, compassion and empathy allowed us to settle our perceived differences and continue to respect what each other offered to MIA and act accordingly.

    As a result, when I saw how disrespectful Francesca was to you I found that very upsetting and my heart went out to you to the point I challenged Francesca’s cruelty to you. Her behavior also validated my own reality that though Francesca is quick to criticize, attack and insult others, she seems to be blind about how her behavior comes off to others as very offensive, disrepectful and hurtful.

    I also admired your assertive response to Francesca saying that given her lack of interest in reading your overall comments as well as my comments and even the main article on the post, you weren’t willing to waste too much time on communication with her either given this disrespectful attitude from her. Again, it helped me validate my own reaction and feelings to this pervasive lack of empathy and good will from Francesca toward anyone who does not share her strict standards of what is needed to reform mainstream psychiatry, which in our opinion cannot be reformed due to its fraudulent, corrupt, unscientific, bogus, harmful, coercive, rights violating, murderous current paradigm that grows worse and more predatory globally ever day.

    Thank you for your support for my comments that are based on my own horrible experience having to rescue family from the bipolar fad fraud at great cost, which can probably only be understood fully from that perspective.

    Finally, I have always found your posts very interesting, well researched, enlightening and even funny at times since you aren’t too tolerant of others’ bull…, so as we have discovered, we are wasting our time trying to communicate with those who believe they are above reading anything others write that is not in full agreement with their rigid agenda to reform mainstream psychiatry.

    Sadly, this type of attitude keeps one very narrow minded and ignorant overall and left with just empty ideological slogans rather than a humane approach to this very challenging issue that sees human beings as unique individuals rather than a huge mass of identical, lobotomized slaves to be subject to all their toxic poisons and violence and spit out by the Big Pharma/psychiatry industrial complex for the sake of their global billions.

    Again, thank your for your support and concern, Jonah and its’ nice to meet you again. I always enjoy reading your posts even if I don’t always comment.

    Donna

  • If you read the entire article and other posts from the article on so called mental illness and violence, you will see that others got exactly what I said in my critique of the article while you were off on your own agenda and tangent that had little to do with it since you didn’t read the article, so couldn’t comment intelligently on it. The title of the article implied that it was about the so called mentally ill not being violent, which is a good thing for the “movement” and when you read the article it was a dirty trick betrayal showing how so called bipolars are supposedly the real violent ones with the most crime. Again, no surprise when they include serial killers and rapists like Gary Samson and Robert Hanson along with abuse/rape trauma victims in this bogus stigma invented with DSM III for this exact purpose along with pushing the latest neuroleptics and “mood stabilizers” on patent that have made billions for the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/Government industrial complex at the cost of millions of destroyed lives.

    You are right, you would have to understand mine and others’ outrage over the bogus bipolar fad fraud given that I had to rescue loved ones from this monstrosity at great cost to understand why I did not appreciate your “comment” at the time.

    So, I guess we all have our hot button issues! Perhaps those would be critics you claim would think my comment outrageous might understand it in context if the mental death profession would only allow that to be considered.

  • Francesca,

    Thank you for posting your own verbose, irrelevant remark that reminds me of why I was so frustrated at the time with both you and the article I cited that you admitted not reading along with its very misleading title. After saying you did not read the article, you posted this absurd comment that had little to do with the actual article, which was really saying it was those with the bogus bipolar stigma who were most violent, so the title was somewhat of a dirty trick. The reason, of course, is that the bipolar fad fraud is now what Dr. Thomas Szasz called psychiatry’s “sacred symbol” that was schizophrenia that justified their fraudulent existence that has now been replaced with the horrible bipolar fad fraud by including everyone and thing but the “kitchen sink” in it from serial killers and rape victims to irritable children so they can poison everyone on the planet from literal cradle to grave while pretending they are deranged mental cases needed poison neuroleptics and AOT forced commitment for lifelong exploitation and profit. Thus, based on my tons of research, I found this article offensive and outrageous as a result.

    I’m not going to waste my time explaining further since you aren’t willing to do the homework/reading/basic courtesy to be able to provide relevant comments that actually apply to the topic or post at hand rather than spouting the same mantra and ideology while vilifying anyone who doesn’t share your every thought and belief.

    I just noted that Suzanne Beachy on another of Dr. Hickey’s post was not in the least bit happy about your attacks on her either when you accused her of being dishonest and so forth, so I don’t think it’s just me and Jonah who find your treatment offensive. On that same post you kept complaining about those like me who don’t totally agree with your ideology and are therefore ruining our great protest movement! What a joke!

    Anyway, I’m done here. I now understand your hostility to me and others here I guess (anyone who doesn’t totally agree with you, which would require mind reading and total submission to your every thought and command).

  • Francesca,

    Your attempt to define my reality about what I think about the bogus thorazine/neuroleptic great psychiatric miracle “cure,” is quite abusive to say the least along with your other insults. Most honest experts will now admit that the great “magic bullet” claims for both the original and atypical neuroleptics were nothing but a psychiatry/Big Pharma fraud given these horrible drugs didn’t work and caused deadly brain/organ damage with reduced lifespans of 25 years on average while destroying what lives these poor souls had left with the miserable zombie like effects of these poisons along with obesity, diabetes and tons of other bodily harm.

    Bob Whitaker gives many reasons why the mental hospitals emptied which had nothing to do with the toxic drugs or any great psychiatric miracle proclaimed by their usual spin doctoring in his book, Anatomy of an Epidemic. So, thorazine is not the issue here; it is the neverending “mad science,” lies, fraud and violent torture perpetrated against the so called mentally ill throughout psychiatry’s entire sordid history that Bob Whitaker tackles in his book, Mad in America, especially. Thorazine pales in comparison when you review all their torture treatments from their inceptionthat make the Spanish Inquisition and witch burnings look compassionate!

    Anyway, my major point is your criticizing others when you don’t read the articles or comments by your own admission, which shows you are here just to promote a certain ideology without considering others’ points of view. The fact the you then attack and criticize people for not agreeing with your ideology is pretty absurd in my opinion. Such claims that certain posts say “black is white” is an insulting way to disagree with someone to make them appear “crazy” no less on this web site of all places. People who live in glass houses….

    Sadly, I’m not sure I disagree that people suffering psychosis may benefit from some compassionate, ethical help but psychiatry as a whole has betrayed the public trust so much and so many times with its massive corruption, violence, coercion and deceit, they should not be trusted to help such sensitive souls or prey on other normal people by falsely accusing them of being bipolar or psychotic to line their pockets while destroying countless lives to push their life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs.

    Finally, I regret that we are having this battle, but I felt you might want to know how your attitude toward others can feel very offensive and insulting in case you don’t realize it. It’s one thing to disagree about psychiatry, but to insult and disrespect others for no reason is not called for or necessary.

  • Francesca,

    I simply disagreed that you should be able to dictate the “cause” for all psychiatric reformers, protesters, victims, those killed or otherwise destroyed by the current fascist psychiatric system, etc. You can certainly leave me out of your supposed “reform” movement while many others have objected too.

    “Godwin’s Law” does not apply to biopsychiatry since they were and are responsible for creating the evil, bogus eugenics theories with the robber barons of the 1930’s that allowed them to justify gassing to death those they stigmatized as mentally ill in Germany as practice for the Holocaust they advocated to Hitler while moving their gassing apparatus to concentration camps. Those presiding at the Nuremburg Trials admitted that without psychiatry, the Holocaust would probably never have happened. With its junk science DSM and pretense that normal/typical human problems/stress/crises are mental diseases of one’s individual brain due to bad genes, chemical imbalances and other bogus claims while lying and denying all social, relationship, environmental stressors, injustice, oppression, inequality and other situations known to cause human distress, the current biopsychiatry paradigm continues its same predatory eugenics agenda with all humans except the psychopathic 1% targeted rather than any particular group as in Nazi Germany. This allows those in power to blame their victims for the evils they inflict with the pretense that their faulty brains are the problem and not their predagory “shock doctrine” while robbing the globe of all its wealth and resources to make slaves of the majority of people while culling the rest with toxic drugs, food, vaccines, etc.

    You have accused me of saying YOU are irrational in a comment because I don’t agree with you about coercive treatment, but I certainly did not mention or address YOU in that post though you seem to believe you are the moderator on this post feeling free to vilify and degrade people who deviate from your mantra.

    So, I think the problem is that you cannot engage in rational discussions when anyone disagrees with your ideology without insulting and bullying them.

    As I said, you are entitled to your opinions, but I don’t appreciate your putdowns because you disagree with me or others for that matter.

  • Francesca,

    Here is the post in question where you did claim not to have read the article while arrogantly critiquing both the article and my comment about it that you probably didn’t read either. I asked about your memory to give you the benefit of the doubt about bad memory versus dishonesty since you keep claiming you ALWAYS read the article before commenting. I believe others’ comments are equally important to read, so I think you are equally uninformed about the issues by ignoring them and others’ experience and perspectives to force your own narrow view about how to reform a corrupt, broken, predatory system that is beyond redemption at this point in the opinion of many including Bob Whitaker who has acknowledged that the current biopsychiatry agenda of stigmatizing, drugging and coercion is a failed system/paradigm.

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/04/no-significant-connection-between-mental-illness-and-crime/

    As Jonah said, your insulting putdowns of supposed “verbose,” “redundant” comments you refuse to read to justify your refusing to consider other’s feelings, experience and opinions does not make one wish to waste much time engaging with you or considering your own repetitive ideology with little to back it up either. Your nasty attacks, raving and insults against me show that your claims of being impartial about others’ views are dubious at best.

    Anyway, your many hysterical, degrading attacks on me are absurd, very opinionated, one sided and bullying considering you refuse to read both the articles or comments before pontificating and judging each person’s comments as if you are the appointed judge of this blog! I guess I hit a nerve by challenging your self appointed role of critic of each comment on this blog without reading them. Did you read the article?

    Yes, like many MIA readers, I am very passionate about the crimes of biopsychiatry and though not all of my comments are potential Pulitzer Prize winners, I have gotten much positive feedback from many MIA members for many of my posts because I do my homework and learn much from other MIA readers.

    I hope you will reconsider how you treat fellow MIA members so that even if we disagree, we can have mutually respectful relationships here without name calling, insults and other childish attacks.

  • Someone Else,

    This post on the horrific treatment of female rape victims in the military who dare report it given bogus DSM typical “female discrediting” stigmas like borderline and bipolar per Dr. Judith Herman and Dr. Carole Warshaw, respectively as domestic violence/trauma experts shows how vile, predatory, evil, vicious, psychopathic and grossly dishonest the mental death system is when it comes to dealing with the harmed victims of those in power. This is a perfect example of psychiatry using junk science, life destroying stigmas to discredit, silence, abuse, rob all human, civil rights, deny any justice and aid and abet the more powerful perpetrators also exposed by abuse/trauma experts. Most egregious is these female rape/trauma victims who dare report it are not only given bogus, discrediting stigmas, but are robbed of all credit and benefits for their service rather than punishing the perpetrators and helping the rape/trauma victims.

    Such psychiatric demolition enterprises are alive and well in work bullying/mobbing cases, divorces, custody battles, main stream medicine and any other endeavor that the mental death profession has hijacked to make a literal killing financially from the powerful at the huge expense of their victims. This corrupt, predatory profession used for such unjust “social control/predation” for the nasty purpose of ensuring the survival of the richest in the human jungle/rat race they foster must be demolished if there is any hope for human freedom and democracy.

  • Dr. Hickey,

    Here’s an example of a global PR campaign to spread psychiatric abuse and fraud throughout the world with special emphasis on Africa to decrease the “immense burden of mental illness like depression” and other vile, predatory lies and pretense to prey on other countries who have their own views and remedies for human distress that have proven far more successful than the fascist psychiatry regime per Robert Whitaker and others.

    This reminds me of other predatory corporations like Big Pharma when tobacco companies and others hawking poison [products expanded their sales to third world countries as more and more people in 1st world countries became aware of the harm and fraud of their products.

    This article also makes me literally sick when you consider the flagrant lies and huge potential for more harm for so called “depression treatment” and others known to cause huge iatrogenic harm in the U.S., Great Britain and other countries.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140620120446.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28Latest+Science+News+–+ScienceDaily%29

  • Jonathan,

    It appears that though you experienced some brief mental health treatment, you did not have coercive treatment against your will?

    Regardless, you and others are entitled to your own opinions just like those differing with you and the more main stream views are entitled to their/our opinions. The fact that the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel has perpetrated so much fraud and corruption of medicine and human disability and death in itself is enough to justify abolishing it. Plus, its bogus medicalization of typical human problems to exert coercive social control and abuse the victims of the power elite all the more makes it unconstitutional! It’s a total violation and betrayal of all human, civil and democratic rights and is based on the same evil eugenics agenda used by psychiatrists that to justify gassing to death those they stigmatized as “mentally ill” or “human vermin” they later used to promote and justify the Nazi Holocaust to Hitler and not the other way around as many have been misled to believe. Hitler was one of their many victims and almost destroyed by his own doctor!

    Again, the violent people assaulting others or doing other criminal acts should be dealt with in the criminal/prison system. From what I understand, a vast majority of prisoners are now stigmatized and drugged so the 1% can profit form the prison industrial complex and the Big Pharma one in collusion with corrupt lawyers, judges and others in the so called justice system or that industrial complex serving the 1% business needs as well. Thus, it seems to me that prisons must have the personnel to dole out the same type of “treatments” doled out by psychiatric hospitals, so what you describe seems like a turf war than any statement about the so called violently mentally ill who should be in jail unless or until they can shape up or if murderers/rapists they should be confined for life.

  • Steve,

    I stand by what I said. Copy Cat cited far more recent evidence than yours by expert Dr. David Healy that you have yet to share with us on MIA about the bogus bipolar stigma and the invented increased suicide that supposedly goes with it to justify the latest lethal drugs on patent and/or the horrific poison lithium you recommend for suicide prevention with no qualifications. This exact same fraud has been used to push SSRI drugs known to cause suicide like ALL of their toxic drugs/treatments including ECT that drove Ernest Hemingway and Sylvia Plath to suicide.

    Your comment was actually a non sequitur regarding Copy Cat’s article because lithium is mainly and probably only used for the bogus bipolar stigma for the presumed increased suicide it supposedly causes as well as other supposed symptoms.

    Since Dr. Healy and others have shown that “bipolar” does not increase suicide, the bogus argument of using lithium to prevent the mythical increased suicide is also bogus and a moot issue. Also, everyone knows that SSRI’s are the gateway drug to both suicide and a bipolar stigma due to their lethal iatrogenic effects, so it’s all too possible that the SSRI effects were used to pretend that the now “unmasked bipolar” (another vile Big Pharma blaming the victim fraud) was the real cause of the suicide attempt and on and on ad nauseum with their neverending junk science and spin doctoring making all of psychiatry/Big Pharma “research/studies” highly suspect and questionable including yours about the suicide benefits of the lethal lithium.

    So, there was no point in your volunteering that lithium reduces suicide especially with no context, evidence or application in this case since Copy Cat shared that Dr. Healy has given current evidence that the great claim of bipolar causing more suicide just like the lie that “depression” in itself causes suicide without psychiatric stigma, drugs and oppression is just one of many of biopsychiatry’s Big Pharma con jobs.

    So, your claim of lethal lithium reducing the nonexistent increased suicide in so called bipolar is a moot issue, so there was no point in your risking others’ lives while making this false claim based on old psychiatric spin and junk science, which probably includes the “science” you read that claimed lithium slightly reduces suicide. Per Dr. Jay Joseph, the tons of claims by bogus biopsychiatry used to con and brainwash everyone are rarely duplicated and proven.

    Despite your implication that a gun was put to your head to force you to put forth any knowledge you might have about preventing suicide when it had no bearing on this post or the post you targeted with this response, it was not relevant or accurate in this case, but rather dangerous.

    As with any Big Pharma or other drug ads, I think such a comment should include all the known deadly side effects and other needed warnings that the supposed cure might lead to one’s grave disability and even early death.

    Again, I usually have a very high regard for your comments as I have said numerous times and this one seems greatly out of character for you in my opinion, making me feel quite betrayed and disappointed by one of my heroes making such a claim.

  • Francesca,

    I beg to differ with you because what you see as “the cause” by defending coercive biopschiatry in certain cases YOU approve is not in keeping with those of us who believe this bogus medicalization of typical human problems/crises/suffering/loss or used for inconvenient people the more powerful want discredited and removed/destroyed for the purpose of social control and destroying certain targeted people with impunity.

    I’ve already given my views about suicide elsewhere and rational people believe that the police and criminal justice should/must deal with bona fide criminals while those like abuse, trauma victims falsely accused of being bipolar to aid and abet their more powerful, usually male abusers should not be allowed to be medicalized to prey on and detroy women, children, the elderly, blacks and other less powerful groups with brain/body killing “treatments” of the mental death porofession.

    See book, The Protest Psychosis, for an example of biopsychiatry’s evil racism and stigmatizing blacks to medicalize and remove them from society to aid and abet further social oppression, one of many notorious examples of psychiatric predation on less powerful groups.

  • Francesca,

    Jonah just helped validate my experience and reality by expressing his frustration with your commenting on a small part of his post in bold print without reading the whole post per your own admission. He said he felt a reluctance to engage too much with you since you weren’t willing to spend the time to read his post to fully understand what he was saying.

    This is after you claimed on this post that you never did that when you yourself have admitted it when I posted a comment you criticized without reading the post and now with Jonah’s comment.

    Do you suffer from memory problems or are you just too eager to force your opinions on others without considering theirs?

    I suppose in the future when you wish to inflict your ideology on others without even considering what they have to say or an article in question, you could remain silent about your not reading the articles, posts or others’ unique ideas that are presented or in dispute. However, your responses will still give you away in my opinion.

  • Jonathan,

    Have you been a so called “patient” of biopsychiatry? If not, I don’t think you are in a position to justify what Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, calls 100% FRAUD and the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity! Many other experts, parents and survivors totally agree with Dr. Baughman and others in his camp like Dr. Hickey.

  • Jonathan,

    As part of the system, you use the ploy of defending coercive psychiatry by using examples of rapists, pedophiles, serial killers and the worst psychopathic malignant narcissists or evil people of society with many practicing psychiatry aiding the 1% looters to vilify psychiatry’s victims to brainwash the public and justify psychiatry’s abuse and violence against the most nonviolent who are often women and children with abuse related trauma fraudulently stigmatized as bipolar to blame and detroy these victims.

    As many have pointed out, the violent, rapists and other criminals breaking the law should be handled by the police and criminal justice system while those suffering emotional distress, grief over loss, trauma from abuse, rape and other reasons should be left alone and protected from predation, coercion and more abuse by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    Of course, currently, biopsychiatry and the criminal/prison system is one and the same with the perpetrators and victims both vilified, stigmatized and drugged into oblivion and early death due to their lower social status for social control and increased profits for the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/corrupt government hacks revolving door cartel!

    I think your argument is spurious based on the many people who are abused by biopsychiatry rather than those supposedly abusing them!!

  • To those trying to bully everyone into being good little robots with the exact same thoughts and mantras, this seems just like the oppression of biopsychiatry that attacks and preys on the individuality and uniqueness of every human being by turning them into good little obedient lobotomized, drugged, shocked zombies to be slaves for the 1% they aid and abet.

    As far as preventing suicide, psychiatry’s vicious, coercive violence against the suicidal and forcing toxic stigmas and drugs on them known to cause suicide is more apt to cause more suicide than less. Moreover, I agree that if one wishes to take one’s own life, they should have that right especially in cases where people are dying of cancer and in agony while being kept alive by all the more toxic torture treatments that cost a fortune and bankrupt the health care system.

    It seems to me that the suicide and school/public shooter rates have increased greatly with the huge expansion of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    If one is determined to commit suicide they will succeed, so usually those with so called attempts that come to the attention of psychiatry are really “cries for help” with psychiatry’s response like the abusive parent saying, “I’ll give you something to cry about” or torture you so much you would never dream of seeking such so called “help” ever again, putting one all the more at risk for suicide.

    And the supposed prevention of suicide with their life destroying stigma to justify coercion, violence and toxic suicide inducing drugs is just one more evil lie, spin doctoring promoted by the psychiatry/Big Pharma cartel with the pretense of saving lives while making those they stigmatize appear to be the most deranged would be serial killers to frighten the rest of the public into allowing them to destroy innocent people while violating all their human/civic rights with impunity.

    So, anyone advocating for forced treatment here should speak only for themselves!

    Caveat emptor!

  • Dr. Hickey,

    Hope you see this latest article posted at MIA:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/06/uk-psychiatric-college-blames-public-drugging-crisis/

    This sure fits right in with what you have been saying about when all else fails psychiatry’s motto is blame the patients, attack critics and use PR spin!

    Psychiatry’s latest attacks and lies are providing much ammunition for more of your future great, thorough articles that do such a great job of exposing psychiatry’s never ending spurious claims.

  • What a farce of an article, but so enlightening and essential for would be psychiatric survivors and protestors to see what they are up against with this latest backlash of spin doctoring to counter the facts presented in recent times by real doctors/experts with a conscience.

    And Wessely very conveniently fails to acknowledge that the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel has used every lie and trick in the book to brainwash the public that it’s bogus, voted in, invalid DSM stigmas are “real brain diseases like diabetes needing drugs,” chemical imbalances, heritable faulty genes and other vicious lies for psychiatry’s latest destructive eugenics agenda.

    Dr. Philip Hickey has some great posts about psychiatry’ new agenda to blame the patients/clients for all of biopsychiatry’s fraud and harm and react to any criticisms with more PR and attack. This article is a very good example of what Dr. Hickey exposes in those recent articles at MIA.

    Also, Wessley fails to acknowledge that those supposed “parent” groups like NAMI, CHADD and the bipolar groups like DBSA are nothing but Big Pharma front groups with most of their funding from Big Pharma as exposed by Senator Grassley in Congress when he outed many corrupt psychiatrists.

    Thus, I think it is critical such articles are posted and exposed at MIA to counter this latest spin on mad doctoring and mad science (see book, MAD SCIENCE, reviewed at MIA exposing that all of biopsychiatry so called science is fraud with their only consistent “treatment” being coercion).

    http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Science-Psychiatric-Coercion-Diagnosis/dp/1412849764

    http://csw.fsu.edu/articles/mad-science-psychiatric-coercion-diagnosis-and-drugs-book-launch/

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2013/07/book-review-mad-science-psychiatric-coercion-diagnosis-and-drugs/

  • Jonathan,

    Freud advocated cocaine for so called mental illness before it almost destroyed him and others not to mention the tobacco pipe that gave him mouth cancer.

    Doctors used to prescribe alcohol for life’s woes and now they demonize/ostracize anyone using/abusing it and other supposed “bad” drugs from which they can’t profit to push the multibillion dollar bogus addiction treatment agenda by hijacking the free AA 12 step programs.

    Doctors also used to do ads for what they supposedly believed were the most healthy cigarettes. Big Tobacco fought violently that their products were not harmful or addictive while secretly adding to their addictiveness all along in recent times.

    The biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/Junk Food cartels have used the exact same tactics as big tobacco to push their toxic products since they use the same spin doctors.

    As Dr. Johanna Moncrieff exposes in her book, The Myth of the Chemical Cure, psychiatric drugs are just other psychoactive drugs that should be seen as no differently than illegal drugs. We don’t need medical drug pushers to con and force people into taking them for what Dr. Hickey rightly calls life problems and certainly not medical problems.

    This bogus medicalization is a coverup for the fact that biopsychiatry exists to make huge profits for the 1% in power and to exert vicious, violent social control against anyone who challenges the power of that 1% and its thug enforcers. It has no helpful medical purpose whatsoever, but rather, sidetracks/derails/brainwashes people about the real source of their problems while discrediting them in the process to make them all the more ineffective in challenging their oppressors of which biopsychiatry is chief among them!

  • Francesca,

    When you replied to one of my comments at MIA with disagreement, you specifically said that you had not read the article, but…….., which I found quite frustrating. The article in question had to do with the alleged violence of the “seriously mentally ill” with the most violence supposedly committed by the many stigmatized with the bogus bipolar stigma that includes everyone from serial killers, rape/abuse trauma victims to irritable children. Thus, I questioned if any overall conclusions could be made about all of those fraudulently stigmatized with the latest bipolar fad fraud.

    One had to read the article to understand my concern. So, I stand by what I said.

    Glad to hear you’ve read Whitaker’s books. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else here.

  • Dr. Hickey,

    Thanks for your encouraging response. Your hard hitting articles are always excellent and thorough, so I will look forward to reading one about this latest psychiatric debacle.

    In case you haven’t seen it, Dr. Nardo has added more articles on his blog on the SSRI topic today (6/21) with one comparing all the bogus media articles that merely parrot the dangerous puff pieces of biopsychiatry/Big Pharma per usual.

    Also, you may have seen the many critiques of the original BMJ article by Dr. David Healy and other experts exposing the SSRI harm/fraud:

    http://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g3596?tab=responses

    One excellent point made in these comments that I’ve been seeing elsewhere is that the decline of SSRI antidepressants may be due to their coming off patent and disease mongerers like Nassir Ghaemi trying to stigmatize everyone on the planet with the bogus bipolar used for both murderers (see Gary Sampson, Robert Hanson and other serial killers) and abuse/rape victims (see military female “bipolar” rape debacle) to “irritability” in children no less per a new study by NIMH. With the new Latuda neuroleptic and most atypical neuroleptics on patent at least in injectionable form for better “compliance,” there is all the more incentive to push the bipolar fad fraud while Ghaemi is pushing what Dr. Joel Paris calls “bipolar imperialism” by hijacking PTSD, so called borderline, anxiety, depression and any others he can annex to his concentration camp of destroyed bipolar inmates poisoned and defamed into oblivion. Ghaemi has accepted money from the makers of Latuda.

    Another factor is that if young people were abruptly taken off these drugs, they may have been more susceptible to such “side effects” as suicide because many if not most doctors don’t know or care that one must be slowly weaned from psych drugs. Many school/public shooters/suicides were on these drugs or in withdrawal.

    Other critics of the SSRI media campaign in the comments about the above BMJ article point out that often black box warnings actually increase usage while having almost no effect in decreasing it.

    Other contributors to suicide are cited such as the increasingly bad economy, pain killer and other prescription and illegal drug abuse, etc.

    Given that drugs for so called bipolar are even more lethal than the gateway SSRI and “ADHD” drugs to the iatrogenic harm fraudulently stigmatized as bipolar, I wonder if by protesting this outrageous media campaign to defend SSRI’s, we might be playing into biopsychiatry/Big Pharma hands!

    At the same time, however, given that the lack of efficacy and safety of SSRI’s has been so widely exposed by those like Kirsch with his book, The Emperor’s New Drugs, and Dr. David Healy, brain washing the public once again that SSRI’s cure depression and prevent suicide after all the progress made to expose these useless, toxic drugs is “depressing” indeed. Thus, there are many PR advantages to this article for biopsychiatry’s latest ad campaign, so their PR people are earning their money while the danger to would be patients grows exponentially with every lie they publish with no oversight.

    Given your extensive knowledge and research, you may be all the more aware of other hidden agendas in this supposed SSRI campaign while exposing the surface agenda.

  • Steve,

    First, I want to say that I always appreciate your very intelligent, expert comments on MIA as I’ve told you before.

    However, I am very disappointed that you would write a comment to answer another one about the latest fad fraud bipolar that Dr. Insel, Head of NIMH, has declared invalid seemingly supporting this menace by claiming toxic lithium can prevent suicide. The comment above that elicited your comment gave evidence by Dr. David Healy, Psychiatrist and author of the excellent book, MANIA: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder, that those falsely accused of having this bogus, voted in stigma created with DSM III with Big Pharma to push the latest lethal neuroleptics and epilepsy drugs on mostly abused, trauma victims, had no higher risk of suicide from their bogus “bipolar disease.”

    Could you cite the evidence that has been duplicated by others that lithium prevents suicides for the fake bipolar disorder that is pushed today on a vast number of people? I doubt very much that is the case, but even if it seemed to prevent it in biopsychiatry’s bogus ghost written, Big Pharma twisted “evidence,” the lethality of lithium causing brain, liver and other deadly organ damage since the supposed therapeutic dose is almost the same as the deadly, toxic, life threatening dose is enough reason to avoid this poison like the plague despite your dubious claim it reduces suicide for “bipolars” but not a lot!

    Also, living the life of a drugged, unfeeling, brain damaged, disabled, obese, destroyed wreck of a human being/zombie could never justify this poison drug any more than the equally life destroying neuroleptics in my opinion.

    I would ask you not to give ammunition to the opposition without tons of evidence that the so called benefits outweigh the huge risks/known harm of lithium you cite are proven. And even then I’d have to ask who’s side you are on to seemingly push this poison on anyone including your worst enemy!

    If you consider that someone making such a claim about the great value of ADHD drugs might have put your children at increased risk, I would ask you not to make claims that will put those given a bogus bipolar stigma at risk for poison lithium or other toxic drugs. You must be aware that this fraudulent “disorder” was created by the very character disordered that created this stigma for adults in the DSM III followed up by Joseph Biederman’s single handedly creating the child ADHD and bipolar epidemics while on the take with Big Pharma while illegally receiving federal grant money as well. Since this corruption is well documented on the web, I won’t go into detail about all the fraud related to the bipolar monstrosity and assault on humanity by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel!

    Again, I am dismayed by your comment implying that lithium is good drug that can prevent supposed increased bipolar suicide when the opposite is really true per Dr. Healy above who exposes this false claim is used to justify predation on those so stigmatized as is true of the so called depressed. After what the mental death profession does to trauma victims with their bipolar demolition enterprise, I would be surprised if there weren’t a lot of related suicides given this stigma is deliberately used to discredit, stigmatize, ostracize, prey on, destroy and profit from the victims while aiding and abetting the abusers in power! Also, all of psychiatry’s toxic drugs cause suicide, brain damage and a host of other life threatening effects, which are the only effects that are often used to pretend it was the so called “mental illness” that caused the suicide, a well known Big Pharma ploy invented by CEO Mitch Daniels!!

    I regret if this post offends you, but I find your post very offensive and questionable.

  • Excellent, informative, humane article while being very maddening and depressing when one thinks of the wasted billions of the power elite served by biopsychiatry to prey on, exploit and increase the suffering, stigma and isolation of the traumatized poor and homeless while hugely profiting at their horrific expense. As usual, their pretense of helping these people publicly while plotting their greater destruction and homelessness secretly is so despicable it is mind boggling. This is what Dr. Robert Hare describes in his book, Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work and the increasing number of books published about malignant narcissism as well with the growing obvious epidemic of such character “disorders!”

    Nice to see at least some people/experts dealing with this current “no win” like Dr. Gabor Mate and the author of this article have some compassion, decency and caring for people driven to these extremes by trauma and other long term misfortune.

  • Francesca,

    I suggest that you read Robert Whitaker’s very informative books, Mad in America and Anatomy of an Epidemic that answers the question/issue you raise. Most MIA readers came to this site based on Whitaker’s shocking exposure of the history of biopsychiatry and all the harm it has done to its would be patients.

    I must say that I have found it frustrating at times when you have criticized mine and other comments while admitting to not reading the article or researching the point in question while the person commenting had done that basic homework that seems required for any legitimate, informed comments.

  • Dr. Hickey,

    Here is another take on the supposed increase in suicide due to black box and other warnings about SSRI’s causing suicide by Dr. Mickey Nardo of 1boringoldman. Of course, the fact that Kirsch and others have exposed that SSRI’s are not better than placebo with toxic side effects is not considered in the article I cited. Rather, the implication as always is that psychiatry with its great drugs saves lives by preventing suicide with their important drugs and “treatments.” What a farce! I have seen the effects of these toxic drugs described by Dr. Peter Breggin as “I don’t care” drugs that cause what he calls “spellbinding” or an inability to see how badly one is being affected that probably help push would be school/public shooters/killers over the edge with the intent to commit suicide as well.

    Dr. Nardo indicates that this topic has been madly circulating in the media, so it seems quite consistent with your exposure of the “attack and PR” strategy by the APA and/or biopsychiatry to look out for their guild interests rather than patient health and safety since SSRI’s and psychiatric drugs in general have been coming under much attack lately especially with regard to their use in children.

    http://1boringoldman.com/

    As I said, I would certainly be interested in what you have to say about this latest PR campaign of biopsychiatry considering your latest post here.

  • AA, since there is no reply button under your post responding to me, I am posting here to thank you for your response. You are not alone in being suspicious and lacking in trust regarding the claims of medical experts and for good reason.

    Here is a great article form Green Medicine about how mainstream medicine takes a Mafioso approach to perpetrate its death agenda while doing all in its ill gotten power to continue its disease mongering/creation/maintenance at the expense of its so called patients while attacking and smear campaigning those in alternative medicine with natural, healthy practices in many cases that actually maintain health and prevent disease. Often, out and out coercion, false accusations, mobbing, bullying, destruction and silencing of its more effective, honest competitors are the tactics of the main stream medicine guilds willing to do anything to maintain their power, status and wealth at the cost of many lives. Now, I am not saying this is a black and white issue with all the good guys in alternative medicine and all the bad ones in main stream medicine, but statistics do prove that millions of people die each year due to the toxic effects of main stream medicine’s dangerous, questionable drugs taken as prescribed while there are few if any deaths due to healthy diets, vitamins, good health supplements, exercise, etc.

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/do-you-believe-offit

  • Dr. Hickey,

    Thank you for another excellent and very thorough article about the ongoing perils of the bogus biopsychiatry hijacking of humanity based on their never ending ability to lie and deny the truth and push their increasingly fascist agenda to aid and abet their fellow perpetrators in power via main stream media also sold out to Big Pharma and those in power.

    Here is a new article I just read that not only infuriated me, it made me literally sick! I would love to see you apply your great research skills and thoroughness to the appalling fraud and complete lack of care for their victims in this latest of biopsychiatry’s great media agenda you expose to continue their ongoing lies, pretense and fraud in the name and game of “medicine” and great supposed care for their suffering victims who are at such great risk without their so called help.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/black-box-warning-antidepressants-raised-suicide-attempts-n134896

    Be careful! This article could be dangerous to your health with a great anger, shock reaction or apoplexy!!

  • I just read this article and don’t agree that one could conclude that “nice doctors” have better results with useless, toxic SSRI drugs already exposed in Kirsch’s studies and book, The Emperor’s New Drugs.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Emperors-New-Drugs-Antidepressant/dp/0465022006rugs that suspiciously is not mentioned in this article.

    Though I give Steve Balt credit for acknowledging the low efficacy of SSRI’s, I am saddened to see how far he has gone in selling out to the lies of main stream psychiatry given his previous acknowledgement of the bogus claims of biopsychiatry on the Carlat blog, Thought Broadcast, and at MIA.

    I think when considering critical psychiatry articles one has to look at the big picture and message and discern if the overall message is helpful or harmful to would be psychiatric survivors.

    One horrible message that Balt sneaks into this seemingly helpful, honest article is that so called “treatment resistant” depression may be caused by the fact that the problem is really bipolar needing other so called treatment. This is the nasty Nassir Ghaemi agenda to stigmatize just about everyone on the planet with bipolar to push lethal neuroleptics, lithium and epileptic drugs fraudulently named “mood stabilizers” by Big Pharma for a discredited theory that bipolar is similar to epilepsy. Also, most SSRI drugs are coming off patent while the other toxic neuroleptics like the new Latuda and those especially in injectionable form and so called mood stabilizers are still on patent and all too lucrative still. Nassir Ghaemi has been a paid consultant for Latuda and he is pushing for the elimination of the depression diagnosis so it can be subsumed in the bogus bipolar world takeover agenda with his cohorts in crime. Ghaemi is also annexing PTSD, borderline personality disorder, anxiety and other all too normal reactions to social/environmental/relationship stressors into his concentration camp of bipolar inmates.

    Thus, though one might initially be impressed with Balt’s great honesty about the general lack of efficacy of SSRI’s, I believe he has sold out and has the above hidden agenda to discredit the depression diagnosis in favor of the bipolar fad fraud while giving lip service to trauma better served by therapy when he has to be all too well aware that the so called treatment for trauma or anything else biopsychiatry encounters is more toxic neuroleptic and other drugs as is obvious with our veterans in the military. Balt’s talk of therapy is a joke given the current psychiatric stigmatizing and drugging agenda with therapy a very rare option today and if done it all only very short term therapy is approved.

    Finally, the article doesn’t speak of “nice” psychiatrists, but rather “effective” ones. Who are the effective ones? It appears Balt has given the bogus company line throughout the article by pretending to consider many different possibilities and remedies for the “patient’s” so called suffering while actually discrediting each one of them. The only obvious one he mentions that will really solve the problem is to see that the issue was never the useless, toxic SSRI drugs at all, but rather, to see that the “patient” really had bipolar all along, so of course, the SSRI’s wouldn’t work. Instead, they need a life destroying bipolar stigma the current lethal cocktails including new antipsychotics like Latuda if one is to be an “effective” doctor!

  • madmom,

    Great post and sounds like a terrific program! You seem to be well aware of the issues and many necessary/helpful remedies.

    Are you aware that female rape victims in the military and in general are stigmatized with the latest fraud fad bipolar for their rape/trauma symptoms to punish them for speaking out and/or reporting their rapes and to rob them of their careers, any justice and benefits by discharging them from the military? Biopsychiatry is a single minded life destroyer, so they can’t be accused of being prejudiced about who they prey on and harm with impunity. Most normal people would be repelled at the idea of harming/killing the veterans who risked/sacrificed their lives to fight for their country. Sadly, recent wars were created by the psychopaths in power to protect the 1% as they pursue their ongoing “shock doctrine” to rob all the wealth and resources of the globe while enslaving the rest of humanity who have pesky habits like a conscience or some human decency who try to stop or reign them in. Thus, biopsychiatry is used to discredit and destroy them like those in Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany and now the USA and other fascist countries pretending to be democracies. See book and web site, Politcal Ponerology and Naomi Klein’s The Shock Doctrine.

    http://www.amazon.com/Political-Ponerology-Science-Adjusted-Purposes/dp/1897244258/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1403199936&sr=1-1&keywords=political+ponerology+a+science+on+the+nature+of+evil+adjusted+for+political+purposes

    http://www.ponerology.com/

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Shock-Doctrine-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0312427999

    http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

    The moral is that whenever psychopaths and/or malignant narcissists are able to hijack organizations, countries and now the globe, one can expect much suffering among normal, decent people who allowed themselves to get too comfortable and blind about what was/is really going on.

  • AA,

    I totally agree that the environmental/social issues like abuse, bullying, mobbing, sexism, racism and other growing oppression and inequality by the 1% that has been the force behind the latest eugenics oppression by biopsychiatry must be addressed if only by validating the victims for starters.

    The reason is that when people are suffering great stress and trauma from such factors, they are more inclined to do self destructive things like smoking, overeating, failure to exercise, isolating, drugs/alcohol and other toxic habits in a vain attempt to alleviate or obliterate the suffering and trauma.

    So, as Dr. Judith Herman, Psychiatrist and trauma expert and author of the classic TRAUMA AND RECOVERY has acknowledged, one’s psychological and physical safety must come first before any psychological or physical treatments can be useful as when a woman is with an abusive, battering spouse or in people are in any type of combat conditions.

    At the same time, a compassionate doctor could try to convince the sufferer that the more they engage in toxic habits like drug abuse and junk food, they will be far worse off and far less able to cope and survive while giving their abusers, scapegoaters all the more ammunition to use against them while not shaming and blaming the victims for their all too understandable but misguided attempts to cope or escape their agony.

    So, I think both the environmental and health conditions need to be considered. I also agree that there is no “one size fits all” approach, which is one reason biopsychiatry has been such a dismal failure since we are all unique human beings they are treating like the unfeeling, narcissistic robots that they’ve become in this life destroying paradigm. It is obvious that anyone who can do what mainstream psychiatry does to people has to have completely eliminated any and all of their conscience, humanity and decency!

    I still am a great advocate of natural medicine, but I never suggested leaving one’s brains at the door of any doctor since one should always thoroughly research any medical and other advice offered and understand that it may be more or less effective for some than others. Just because one person has an allergy or problem with tumeric or peanuts does not mean that everyone will suffer the same problems, but those who do better avoid the offending substance or face the consequences.

    I guess I was thinking of this article in terms of the traumatic events many at MIA have suffered that can be so harmful, one can have what has been called a stress breakdown with much harmful physical impact on the body that leads to inflammation.

    Also, I’ve read that now many diseases including Alzheimer’s are thought to be related to inflammation, so it is an important issue in medicine though not the only cause of what is dubiously called “mental illness.”

  • Though I applaud any efforts to expose the murderous forced drugging of children and toddlers for trivial reasons like typical child misbehavior and other normal variations to make more billions for the bipsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel, I find it disingenuous and grossly dishonest when authors of such articles make the typical copout claim of “uncertain risk-benefit profiles” for neuroleptics when the risks and destruction of the brain and body for children especially are all too well known!

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/02/neuroleptics-tardive-dyskinesia-children/

    http://www.amazon.com/Drugging-Our-Children-Profiteers-Antipsychotics/dp/0313396833 (See chapter by Robert Whitaker about the deadly effects of ALL psych drugs on children that all too often lead to the worst neuroleptics due to the nasty iatrogenic effects of kiddie cocaine and SSSR’s then fraudulently stigmatized as bipolar to push the toxic neuroleptics rather removing the original lethal poisons “prescribed.”)

  • This horrible toxic, brain damaging neuroleptic prescribing for all ages is an abomination given that dementia and Alzheimer’s Disease is expected to reach crisis levels with the baby boomers aging. It is well known that neuroleptics cause much brain damage, dementia, memory problems and other great harm over time, but they are especially lethal to the elderly not to mention all the young children forced to take them. The same is true of the medical crime of ECT damaging brains and memories permanently as explained in the highly regarded book, Doctors of Deception, recommended by Robert Whitaker and prominent doctors/neurologists.

    Our government is supposedly concerned about this coming tsunami of dementia and has made it a supposed priority with the NIH and NIMH. But, the fact that these agencies push the bogus, discredited DSM mythology to push brain damaging/dementia inducing psych drugs like the horrible neuroleptics tells us that our government is a lying, corrupt entity or that they are horribly incompetent, ignorant and/or ill informed thanks to biopsychiatry, the NIMH, the NIH, APA, AMA and others. Since Big Pharma is so very lucrative and provides millions to many a campaign along with other polluters and killers, it appears that such government officials are probably just paying lip service to the dementia and other health crises created by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel because the rule of crony capitalism is to make as many profits for yourself, cronies and investors as quickly as possible regardless of how much harm and suffering is done to supposed constituents and employees and take the money and run when the “consequences” hit the fan as the Wall Street predators were allowed to do as long as they lined the pockets of those participating in the revolving door of big business and government.

    Dr. Grace Jackson has written some great books on psychiatric drugs including Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs and Drug Induced Dementia: The Perfect Crime exposing how neuroleptics and other psych drugs cause dementia and a host of other brain damage related crises for those taking them any length of time:

    http://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-Psychiatric-Drugs-Informed-Consent/dp/1420867423/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_y

    http://www.amazon.com/Drug-Induced-Dementia-MD-Grace-Jackson/dp/1438972318

    Dr. Joanna Moncrieff exposes the hazards of neuroleptics too along with the huge explosion in the bipolar fad fraud epidemic used to push these toxic drugs for those that don’t even come close to having the symptoms listed in the DSM, which is already bogus and grossly inflated and expanded to an absurd level to include almost everyone on the planet from serial killers to rape victims in this predatory agenda:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Bitterest-Pills-Troubling-Antipsychotic/dp/1137277432/ref=pd_sim_b_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0CGNW9EZNJS6926GEMQ7

    Dr. Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist, and “conscience of psychiatry” has been exposing the fact that all of psychiatry’s bogus treatments “work” by damaging and disabling the brain with the worst ones neuroleptics and ECT, which they were far more honest and upfront about in the past in that this was their nefarious goal in so called “treatment:”

    http://www.amazon.com/Brain-Disabling-Treatments-Psychiatry-Psychopharmaceutical/dp/082612934X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1403159225&sr=1-1&keywords=peter+breggin%2C+brain+disabling+treatments

    Thus, the fact that these poison, brain damaging, dementia inducing psych drugs are being forced on past and present military veterans says it all about those in power treating our veterans in such a horrible way with the pretense of treatment to profit from their suffering and destroyed, greatly shortened lives with many committing suicide or dying in their sleep from the toxic drug effects. This is a massive betrayal of one and all and as Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, says of this psychiatric fraud including drug induced dementia and many other disabilities, they are the worst medical crimes ever perpetrated against humanity bar none based on junk science. And the tax payers have to pay for the massive disability payments just like the Wall Street bailouts for the psychopaths in power to get filthy rich at everyone else’s huge expense with the lost money the least of our woes considering all those with destroyed health and disability from psychiatry’s torture treatments.

  • Dr. Brogan,

    I’m very happy to see you back. I’ve been reading some of your articles at Green Medicine and other sources, and watched some of your videos too, which have impressed me.

    I’m afraid that I have been guilty of not being as welcoming of you as I should have been in the past when you posted here because I had lots of difficulty understanding a lot of technical language you used and said so. I’m pleased that you have simplified it so those of us without your medical expertise can better appreciate your advice. But, we do tend to be outspoken here at MIA, but in some situations involving those like you with good information and intentions, we can be too outspoken and shoot off the hip! So, I hope you will forgive us for that because based on our experience, we can be easily triggered when not in ours and others’ best interests. Do you have some remedies for that?

    I’m sorry the people posting above don’t appear to be aware of your work because I have been very impressed with it since I think that natural, healthy alternatives are the only solution for severe emotional distress and trauma from social/environmental stressors for the most part that do the body/mind a great deal of harm in the process, causing inflammation and other damage to the body as you say.

    In contrast to Anonime above, I am very much aware of many great studies showing that tumeric is like a magic potion/medicine that helps prevent and treat many health problems in addition to creating great health per Green Medicine and many other sources. Moreover, even if tumeric didn’t turn out to be as effective as the studies have indicated so far, at least it is a natural substance that will do no harm.

    That certainly is not true of biopsychiatry’s toxic drugs not only known to cause much brain and body damage along with early death by an average 25 years in ADULTS, so it much be way worse for children, but also known to make the supposed “mental health” problems they pretend to treat based on bogus DSM stigmas that even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH, has admitted to be invalid, far worse and permanent in the long run along with all the other harm they do per Robert Whitaker after much examination of the literature and many others like Dr. Grace Jackson in her great books like Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs.

    Anyway, I am thrilled about any doctors seeking natural, healthy alternatives even if they must write a prescription to start walking/exercising; eat healthy per Dr. Joel Fuhrman’s best selling book, Eat to Live; stop smoking and other poison habits, etc.

    Dr. Hyla Cass has been active in such natural health with books like Natural Highs and others plus her web site in promoting natural remedies for severe emotional/bodily stress stigmatized as “mental illness.” The famous, highly regarded Dr. Andrew Weil and others take this approach as well, so you are in good company. I also find Dr. Mark Hyman with his functional (holistic) medicine quite impressive too.

    I hope you will be patient with people here since they and/or loved ones have suffered much harm from biopsychiatry and medicine in general due to much life destroying stigma and corruption in main stream medicine. Again, I am very pleased you’ve decided to post here again.

    Finally, if you haven’t explored it already, I highly recommend that you check out the web site Alternative Mental Health/Safe Harbor since it includes tons of natural remedies for what are stigmatized as “mental illness” to push toxic drugs in main stream biopsychiatry, so perhaps you might find useful information there and/or contribute some yourself to spread your name and expertise around. I especially appreciate your focus on women’s health since that gets much short shrift in main stream medicine as exposed in many books with most studies done by and for men.

    I look forward to seeing and reading more of your articles at MIA in the future. Thanks for posting at MIA again.

  • Someone Else,

    Yes, I used to be a naïve, trusting person who believed most people are good until I learned the opposite with much shock and trauma dealing with the increasing number of malignant narcissists and psychopaths in power. Due to what Christopher Lasch called The Culture of Narcissism, whereby such villains used to be restrained by religious and other moral constraints, now that most seem to have lost their moral compass and replaced it with an “anything goes” approach, the villains don’t have to hide their villainy so well as the Wall Street scandals expose so well. The fact that these predators received no consequences and citizens who were crushed in this process had to take on the burden of bailing out the offenders from their excesses rather than jail says it all about those in power including the medical profession that expert now call another Wall Street boon or slush fund.

    One author said that one of the problems when Nazi Germany took hold was that many Jews who could have left could/would not believe the dangers posed to them, so they were destroyed for their naïve trust.

    Given what I know about mainstream medicine, any more collusion between biopsychiatry, GP’s, pediatricians and other doctors with Big Pharma and other health big business is certainly not in the so called patient’s best interests since they are dangerous enough already.

    No offense, but how much more harm do you have to suffer before you see or admit the truth. You have my full sympathy and empathy for what you and your family suffered, but I would think that would have cured you of trusting main stream medicine from then on.

    I used to go for annual physicals until I saw that even GP’s are corrupt and now colluding with biopsychiatry and Big Pharma to prey on their so called patients too. Even dentists can be predatory when health insurance financially rewards doing the most procedures and tests no matter what the horrible consequences to the so called patients. Thus, your appalling story is business as usual in medicine now.

    So, knowing what I know about the ethics of psychiatry and the fact they have pushed a totally fraudulent, deadly paradigm with Big Pharma while destroying countless lives they have used to corrupt neurology and GP’s, I don’t tend to go to doctors any more unless I’m desperate. The fact that Dr. Sandra Steingard posting at MIA said the same thing should also give us pause.

    Thanks for your comment.

  • James,

    I don’t think anyone is comparing you to the KOL’s at the top of the APA who sold out the entire mental health profession to Big Pharma with the creation of its junk science DSM in collusion with drug companies and corrupt professional literature exposed by Dr. Nardo at 1boringoldman to stigmatize and blame the victims for their very normal, typical suffering or distress in most cases given their toxic environments and/or the growing inequality, poverty, oppression faced by an increasing number of Americans thanks to the greed and evil of the 1% the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel really serves.

    Unfortunately, those like you who may truly wish to help children and others are forced to work under the bogus DSM paradigm deliberately created to ignore all context and environmental causes of the symptoms or stress reactions psychiatry demonizes as abnormal to blame the victims for social and other oppression to create convenient excuses for those in power to do nothing to address those social and other abuses and inequities. This is in keeping with psychiatry’s horrific eugenics agenda that caused the Nazi Holocaust as I said elsewhere when no genes have been found for any DSM label that even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, has admitted to be invalid. Thus, I think your profession has much ammunition to challenge this deadly agenda of poisoning our children for greed and profit while stigmatizing and disabling them for life.

    This is systemic evil and the sooner those who aren’t making a literal killing from it join together to fight against it based on their own credentials, the better for all of society and children in particular.

    You may have seen that the British Psychological Association and other professional groups protested the absurd DSM V with such fraud as making grief over the death of a loved one a mental illness of depression to be drugged into oblivion and others.

    So, the best I can say is if you want to maintain your own moral compass and feel you must remain in the system, you may want to check out those like Dr. Claudia Gold of Child in Mind at Boston.com and others challenging the excesses of biopsychiatry’s one size fits all toxic drugging of our children for social/family problems and stressors that Dr. Peter Breggin covers in his great book, Reclaiming Our Children. I cited other sources lamenting the horrors of this forced drugging paradigm on our nation’s children as well as adult with shortened lives of 25 years on average for adults. Just think what will happen to children’s life span due to these poisons!

  • I must say that reading the background and goal of Village University in Concord, Massachusetts based on the works of enlightened men like Emerson, it is very disheartening to see the likes of Nassir Ghaemi on the schedule with those like Robert Whitaker.

    Though Ghaemi misrepresents himself as a “scientist” on the list, he is the worse bipolar disease mongering biopsychiatrist in the entire profession who has been challenged many times by Dr. David Healy in his great book, Mania, and many articles, Dr. Allen Frances in his book, Saving Normal and dissenting articles, and many others. Dr. Frances has expressed regret about the bipolar and ADHD epidemics the DSM IV he edited helped create especially among children. But, not Ghaemi: He claims that bipolar is still greatly underdiagnosed so he is doing all in his ill gotten power to include every abuse, rape, trauma victim and those given the bogus borderline insult for their abuse related trauma in his bipolar agenda that Dr. Healy exposes as “the latest mania” and “bipolar babble.” Dr. Joel Paris calls Ghaemi’s agenda “bipolar imperialism.” Dr. Johanna Moncrieff has also lamented about the huge expansion of the bogus bipolar to push the latest toxic neuroleptics, lithium and other lethal drugs on a brainwashed public.

    The fact that Ghaemi makes his living as a self appointed expert in so called mood disorders should cause one to pause when confronted with his bipolar agenda. Also, he wants to eliminate depression diagnoses and round them up in his bipolar cesspool as well. One astute observer wondered if the fact that SSRI antidepressants are coming off patent while neuroleptics are still on patent and expanding with injectable versions for better forcible usage could be influencing Ghaemi’s position since he has gotten Big Pharma money from some of the companies pushing toxic neuroleptics and so deadly so called “mood stabilizers” for bipolar Dr. Healy exposes as a Big Pharma scam.

    Ghaemi pushes every drug company ploy of blaiming the victims’ “mental illness” for toxic drug effects including the one that manic and other frequent bad reactions to SSRI’s “uncover” one’s bipolar. Bob Whitaker exposes the iatrogenic tragedy of children in particular becoming seemingly bipolar due to dangerous SSRI’s and kiddie cocaine effects. Yet, the famous Physician’s Desk Reference blames the drugs and not bipolar! Ghaemi also fights for the ever increasing expansion of already ridiculously expanded junk science DSM bipolar guidelines for what Dr. Insel has admitted to be one of all of DSM’s invalid disorders so he can stigmatize and poison just about everyone on the planet with the latest fad fraud bipolar disorder including children and toddlers no less, One of his great mentors is Joseph Biederman he claims to admire and support who almost single handedly created child ADHD and bipolar epidemics while taking drug company money under the table, which models such a lucrative approach to biopsychiatry. Ghaemi sees nothing wrong with this though Senator Grassley called Biederman and his cohorts on the carpet in Congress for such dishonest practices that had him making headlines in the Boston Globe with those questioning Biederman appalled when he compared himself to God or immediately second to him in terms of his importance. Robert Whitaker has exposed Biederman as the main perpetrator of the scandal of drugging children with toxic neuroleptic drugs in a chapter of a book on child drugging cited elsewhere on MIA.

    So, to anyone going to this program: Caveat Emptor and beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing!

  • Just like the corruption of general GP’s and pediatricians that encouraged them to prescribe a huge number of toxic psychiatric drugs to their so called patients with children and toddlers the major victims now, this appears to be a sneaky way to expand forced treatment to all doctors making them as dangerous to one’s human, civil and democratic rights as the “mental health” profession. Forced statins and vaccines are right around the corner with much pressure on the so called vaccine deniers (who know the truth about many useless, deadly, disabling vaccines and statins).

    It is now apparent that it is very dangerous to visit any so called health professional in main stream medicine since most have been hijacked by Big Pharma, psychiatry and other not so healthy/safe agendas to line their pockets at the deadly expense of their so called patients.

    Also, psychiatry has been working with government hacks to inflict itself in so called collaborative care with general doctors working in sync with psychiatry so that whereby one may have only been destroyed by toxic statins by their GP or toxic neuroleptics by their psychiatrist, now they can be all the more destroyed by combinations of the two and other toxic drugs/dangerous “treatments” both are inclined to “prescribe” for less than noble motives with the “patient’s” health the least of their concerns.

    Thus, this is a very depressing article indeed, but don’t say that because it could get you poisoned with SSRI’s or shocked with ECT if “resistant” to fake pills no better than placebo as if the so called patient isn’t reeling in shock enough at such massive fraud and betrayal at their expense monetarily and health wise.

  • James,

    Based on the article below, which is just the tip of the iceberg Dr. Nardo often addresses at 1boringoldman, I think it is all too clear as to whose evil actions or “sick” behaviors need to be addressed if our species is to survive and it sure isn’t the children preyed on by these psychopathic predators of biopsychiatry/Big Pharma:

    http://evelynpringle.blogspot.com/2010/07/lawsuits-needed-against-prescribing.html

  • Here is the agenda for the “Beyond the Therapeutic State” conference with a description of Bob Whitaker’s talk about the obvious truth/facts that the current biopsychiatry DSM bogus stigmatizing/forced drugging agenda of the 1980’s has clearly not only failed but produced much worse outcomes as he explores promising alternatives like Open Dialog along with like minded people.

    http://www.taosinstitute.net/keynote-presentations

  • James,

    Based on the great divide on this post, I highly recommend you read the following current MIA posts if you haven’t already to get a calmer, professional take on what survivors here are trying to convey to you:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/06/psychiatrization-children-explored/

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/06/whats-driving-increase-child-medicating/#more-43197

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/06/toddlers-prescribed-antipsychotic-drugs/

    I have been researching biopsychiatry for many years due to its threat to my own loved ones I was able to save thanks to much research and the noble Dr. Peter Breggin with his books like Toxic Psychiatry and Your Drug May be Your Problem, 2nd ed. and many others along with his web sites. I especially recommend that you read Reclaiming Our Children by Dr. Breggin that explores our nation’s horrific assault on our children along with their psychiatriation, neglect and being used as scapegoats for massive family and social problems. I also have a Christian background and am a great promoter of ethical, humane treatment of our fellow humans.

    That said, it is obvious that the entire DSM paradigm is an evil scam invented by those in power or KOL’s of the APA when they chose to sell out to Big Pharma with the pretense that biopsychiatry was/is medical when it is merely an agent of Orwellian doublespeak and pernicious social control created by the wealthy and powerful to prey on the rest of humanity as many experts within the profession have exposed. The fact that this vile agenda resulted in multibillions for the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel while destroying countless lives based on total fraud is what has given these atrocities against humanity their ability to thrive and survive. It also shows that psychopaths have hijacked the globe per the book and web site, Political Ponerology, and the work of Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopathy. Actually, I’m not big on such labels, but biopsychiatry has robbed us of our ability or power to name something EVIL with their junk science medicalise and pretense that all evil is “mental illness.” So, to me such terms as psychopathy and malignant narcissism are just alternative terms for evil with their lists of behaviors all included in the Bible and other sources. Psychiatrist, Dr. M. Scott Peck, does a great job discussing human evil in his best selling books, The People of the Lie and The Road Less Travelled as others are doing now. So, if you are really trying to say that we must determine/distinguish what is moral, ethical behavior and what constitutes good and evil behavior I agree that is a worthy, crucial goal. However, biopsychiatry and its perpetrators have relinquished any claim or justication to determine such issues given their greed, corruption, gross dishonesty and fraud and the fact that most should be jailed as were those committing similar crimes like the psychiatrists at the Nuremburg Trials. Dr. Peter Breggin has written a great article that ends with the claim that those at such trials at the time acknowledged that without psychiatry the Holocaust based on psychiatry’s previous gassing to death of those they stigmatized as mentally ill and their evil, bogus eugenics theories, such human Holocausts would probably have never happened and the same predatory agenda continues today. Thus, the last ones who should determine our ethics and morality are biopsychiatrists given their sordid history that Bob Whitaker details in Mad in America and Anatomy of An Epidemic. Bob has also stated that it is clear that the current biopsychiatry paradigm has been proven to be a total failure. This vile house of cards can’t fall down fast enough in my opinion. And these are supposed to be the models of virtue for our children. If you read the many articles at the web site, 1boringoldman, by Dr. Mickey Nardo, psychiatrist, he has made it a goal to expose much of the corruption and lies perpetrated by the biopsychiatry/ Big Pharma cartel throughout its sordid history.

    http://www.psychiatry.freeuk.com/Jodiagnosis.pdf

    I believe that this latest predatory, psychopathic agenda to stigmatize our children with bogus DSM stigmas to push the latest lethal drugs on patent shows that our country and others have lost their moral compass if they ever had one. I simply cannot see how anyone could justify such intrapecies predation on one’s fellow humans and especially the most vulnerable children.

    I realize that it is very hard for individuals in your profession to speak out against this sordid, grossly dishonest, evil paradigm, but perhaps more groups of reformers in social work, psychology and psychiatry could increasingly join together with those like the “conscience of psychiatry,” Dr. Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist and heroes like Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist to fight against this latest eugenics agenda of the KOL’s of biopsychiatry on behalf of the current robber barons like those of the Nazi Germany paradigm that started in the U.S. in the 1930’s with gross human rights violations that became the law of the land.

    I know you are trying your best despite this evil paradigm, but I think experts need to speak out against it more and more as the noble Dr. Claudia Gold is doing when challenging the psychiatrization and drugging agenda of increasing numbers of children (See link to one of her current articles below). Blaming the victims is the main purpose of biopsychiatry, so I think when trying to help children it is more fruitful to consider the idea that the “identified patient” is probably the only or most healthy human in many families with the dysfunctional scapegoater narcissists blaming their children for all the family’s problems or all are in the same boat with growing gross human inequality, oppression and predation by the 1% on the 99%. Murray Bowen and other family systems therapists were well aware of these dynamics that seem to be ignored now thanks to the monstrous biopsychiatry stigmatizing for lucrative forced drugging of one and all agenda.

    Finally, though I realize that upcoding or updiagnosing with the bogus, life destroying bipolar stigma with the pretense it is biological, genetic and other lies to justify more expensive, longer insurance coverage is all too common, perhaps you could minimize the harm as much as possible with less destructive “diagnoses” if you must give them to the children you encounter.

    Since I am older than you, I lived before the monstrous DSM paradigm came about and before childhood and adulthood became a supposed disease or risk to be stigmatized and used to ostracize, punish, bully, mob and scapegoat those who challenged the powerful or those like abuse victims seeking justice who needed to be discredited by those in power for their ongoing predation on society. Now, instead of abusers gas lighting their female victims by accusing them of “being crazy,” they could sound more justified by getting a psychiatrist to stigmatize his victim as bipolar to destroy her all the more per Dr. Carole Warshaw, Psychiatrist and Domestic Violence expert. Thus, going for help when not being aware of this horrific paradigm change of the DSM III became the worst type of monsterous betrayal as Dr. Peter Breggin has continued to expose since the early 1990’s. You may have been brainwashed by this nefarious agenda pervading our society given your own age and times, which may need to be challenged as well.

    I hope you don’t find this too offensive in that I have good intentions like you do despite our obvious differences.

    Soren Kierkegaard says, “Once you label me, you negate me.”

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/soren_kierkegaard.html

  • Addendum:

    I suggest some type of relaxation breathing to get through this information since it can come close to causing apoplexy from the rage one feels reading about this horrific predation on our children (and adults) by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/corrupt government hacks industrial complex in the guise of “medicine.”

    Arthur Schopenhauer, philosopher, had a great remedy for coping with such intraspecies predators exploiting their mere human appearance and mimicking of normal emotions/language well enough to hide in plain sight per Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopaths. He suggests that one calmly examine them as rock specimens like any other natural phenomenon to avoid excess human emotion. This is what malignant narcissist Dr. Robert Spitzer did when he became the first editor of the horrific predatory, fraudulent DSM III: he treated all of humanity as mere rock specimens in his junk science predatory DSM III with its vile pretense of being medical as he treated humans in his real life in keeping with Spitzer’s total lack of conscience or empathy. Dr. Spitzer admitted that all context or environmental and other stressors had been eliminated from consideration in the DSM III pseudoscience of so called disorder created in a back room by supposed consensus by white males with the greatest bullies winning without a shred of science or evidence per Dr. Paula Caplan’s They Say You’re Crazy much like choosing a restaurant. Dr. Spitzer admitted that if any such context or environmental stressors like such petty details as domestic violence, rape, incest, combat trauma, bullying, mobbing and others, the whole DSM “house of cards would fall apart.

    Dr. Robert Hare said a good place to study psychopathy would be Wall Street, but I think the KOL’s and other top leaders/inventors of biopsychiatry would produce far more specimens based on their inhumane actions throughout their sordid history.

    Finally, the other articles listed here with brief introductions are also enlightening and it is unfortunate that they are behind a paywall making them less accessible

    Again, such articles and posts are crucial for our world to see the truth about what is really behind the biopsychiatry medicalization of normal human behavior and stress/trauma reactions based on horrific social and other conditions that are deliberately psychiatrized in individuals to cover them up and blame the victims.

  • This is a superb and very enlightening post, especially the introductory article on Psychiatrized Children And Their Rights: Starting the Conversation on the horrific human rights violations being perpetrated against children as the adult “market” has become increasingly saturated by the greed and malignant narcissism of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma industrial complex preying on all of humanity for greed, profit, status, sadism and eugenic culling of the global population.

    http://www.academia.edu/6785002/Psychiatrised_Children_and_their_Rights_Starting_the_Conversation

    The only problem is that anyone well aware of this monstrous agenda will find it hard to stomach the description of what the evil biopsychiatry predation has been doing to children while all too many are well aware of the Orwellian doublespeak used to continue the pretense they are doing anything medical to justify their despicable social control and gross human rights violations of adults for all too long as well. Such “word salad” psychopathic conning and manipulation consist of such vile tautologies as the “right to treatment” and other crocodile tear pretense all too typical of the very character disordered perpetrators of such supposed “biological psychiatry.” Note, real medicine does not have to call itself “biological medicine” to cover up a bogus agenda of social control and human rights violations since they must use real physical entities, lab and other tests to justify their treatments unlike the pseudoscience of biopsychiatry.

    Plus, as many have pointed out, real medicine does not have anti-cancer, anti-heart attack and other groups fighting known fraud about the illness itself as does biopsychiatry!

    The sooner this vile, despicable paradigm is thrown on the rubbish heap of history along with psychiatry’s eugenics agenda of the 1930’s promoted by the robber barons of that day as are the eugenics theories/agenda psychiatry promotes today thanks to the corrupt Dr. Thomas Insel and cohorts of the NIMH and other KOL’s, the sooner we can address the real social problems, inequality, sexism, racism, the shock doctrines perpetrated around the globe by the psychopaths in power to rob the globe and majority of people of all the world’s wealth and resources with the mental death profession serving as the gestapos to aid and abet them using the farce of the “mental illness” paradigm to literally get away with murder including soul murder which is the worst crime so they can produce more dead, unfeeling zombies with no conscience, ethics, decency, humanity like themselves.

  • I was incensed to read about Dr. Insel’s gross rationalization for the horrible over medication of the youngest children with toxic neuroleptics and other life destroying drugs for so called disorders voted in by APA members with many having huge conflicts of interest with Big Pharma that Dr. Insel himself has admitted are INVALID in a blog entitled “Transforming Diagnosis.” At the same time, I felt great gratitude for Dr. Claudia Gold’s intelligent and compassionate assessment of how these lethal drugs are being used to silence our nation’s children for the purpose of social control while ignoring normal child development issues and the assault on our nation’s families with growing inequality and the worst type of social stressors inflicted on our children as a result.

    I was also very pleased and more than validated in my assessment of this so called debate by Dr. Mickey Nardo of 1boringoldman who added his great common sense (not so common unfortunately, especially among our nation’s leaders like Dr. Insel) while he heartily agreed with Dr. Claudia Gold’s excellent assessment of this assault on our most vulnerable and most precious members of society

    I’m posting Dr. Nardo’s excellent post in full because it gets to the heart of the matter so well.

    fore·told…

    Posted on Thursday 12 June 2014

    Are Children Overmedicated?

    Director’s Blog: NIMH

    By Thomas Insel

    June 6, 2014

    A recent symposium at the Carter Center featured a report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC] that as many as 10,000 toddlers may be receiving psychostimulant medication, like methylphenidate [Ritalin]. The media reports of this, like many past reports, decried the overmedication of children. The numbers are notable. The latest estimate from the National Center for Health Statistics reports that 7.5 percent of U.S. children between ages 6 and 17 were taking medication for “emotional or behavioral difficulties” in 2011-2012. The CDC reports a five-fold increase in the number of children under 18 on psychostimulants from 1988-1994 to 2007–2010, with the most recent rate of 4.2 percent. The same report estimates that 1.3 percent of children are on antidepressants. The rate of antipsychotic prescriptions for children has increased six-fold over this same period, according to a study of office visits within the National Ambulatory Medical Care Survey. In children under age 5, psychotropic prescription rates peaked at 1.45 percent in 2002-2005 and declined to 1.00 percent from 2006-2009.

    Taken together, what do these numbers mean? A common interpretation: children with behavioral or emotional problems are being overmedicated by psychiatrists too busy to provide therapy, at the request of parents too busy to provide a healthy home environment. A corollary of this interpretation is to blame schools too busy to provide recess or activities for fidgety boys. And usually the blame extends to the pharmaceutical companies that market medications in pursuit of profits.

    Dr. Nardo:

    When I read the title to this piece, I had an uncanny premonition. I knew exactly what it was going to say based only on its title and its author. And, as it turned out, I was totally correct in my fore·telling. I even knew the logic structure that the piece would follow on the road to it’s predestined conclusion. A newfound gift of prophesy? or The well worn path of monotony? The latter, I fear – so there will be no stock tips or World Series predictions. In those areas I am guaranteed to be off by a mile. As a child, I once got closest to estimating the number of jelly-beans in a jar only because of a misreading of my lousy penmanship. Claravoyancy is not in my usual bag of tricks…

    Dr. Insel:

    While blaming psychiatrists, parents, schools, or drug companies might seem legitimate, some of the facts just don’t fit. First, most of the prescriptions for stimulant drugs and antidepressants are not from psychiatrists. In fact, outside of a few major cities, families in much of the nation have very limited access to child psychiatrists. Blaming parents is easy, but as Judith Warner argues in her book, We’ve Got Issues, most parents resist medication rather than request it. Schools in many parts of the country have reduced unstructured time, but the increase in medication is now seen in toddlers, years before children begin school. And drug companies, while frequently maligned, have reduced, not increased, their marketing budgets in the US.

    If psychiatrists, parents, schools, or drug companies are not the culprit, who is? The answer is potentially more complicated and more worrisome. Is it possible that the increased use of medication is not the problem but a symptom? What if more children were struggling with severe psychiatric problems and actually the problem was not over-treatment but increased need? Surely, if we discovered more children were being treated for diabetes or immune problems, we wouldn’t blame the providers or the parents. We’d be asking what drives the increase in incidence. And, there actually are large increases in the incidence of Type I diabetes and food allergies.

    Dr. Nardo:

    There’s a piece of logic here that’s hidden behind the clouds. The topic is the massive increases in the number of children on medications, yet he is already talking about the possibility that it really means more sickness. That presumes that the treatment for mentally ill children is medications. This equation mental illness in children equals treatment with medications has actually come into being during his and his predecessor’s tenure [Stephen Hyman], and is contradicted by NIMH studies, FDA black box warnings, the debunking of the bipolar child myth, etc. His automatic jump to mental illness in children equals treatment with medications speaks more to Dr. Tom Insel’s automatic mentality than to the state of childhood mental illness. If there were a signal that mental illness in children is increasing at the rate he is about to propose, it’s not the job of the Director of the National Institute of Mental Health to be speculating about the use of medications. His job would be to mount an all out task force to look for the reasons why, rather than speculating as a way of debunking the claim that children are inappropriately overmedicated [and, by the way, children really are inappropriately overmedicated!].

    Dr. Insel:

    Skepticism regarding increased rates of emotional and behavioral difficulties as opposed to increases in other medical disorders can be attributed in part to the absence of biomarkers or laboratory tests for psychiatric diagnosis comparable to glucose tolerance tests for diabetes or anaphylactic reactions for allergies. Absent these kinds of consistent, objective measures for mental disorders, we cannot distinguish between a true increase in the number of children affected or simply changing values or trends in diagnosis. Clearly context matters. What one parent might consider hyperactivity, another parent might consider healthy exuberance. What physicians once called attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], often now elicits a diagnosis of childhood bipolar disorder, leading to a 40-fold increase in prevalence from 1994-1995 to 2002-2003.

    No question, in a field without biomarkers, there is a risk of over-diagnosis. No question, subjective diagnosis could invite unnecessary treatment and over-medication. But what if the increased use of medication reflected more children with severe developmental problems and more families in crisis? What if the bigger problem is not over-medication but under-treatment? Hearing that 7.5 percent of children are on medication [4.2 percent on psychostimulants] seems stunning, but knowing that 11 percent of children have a diagnosis of ADHD raises a possibility of under-treatment.

    Dr. Nardo:

    Notice that the maxim “11 percent of children have a diagnosis of ADHD” is presented as a simple truth. It would be nice to hear about where his simple truth came from [unreferenced in his article]. And his comment, “What if the bigger problem is not over-medication but under-treatment?” betrays his monotonous equation that mental illness in children equals treatment with medications. I know of no hypothesis that medication in childhood mental illness is anything more than symptomatic. For all of Dr. Insel’s sermonizing about clinical neuroscience, he reduces child mental health treatment to symptomatic therapy. Is that what the National Institute of Mental Health is for? I don’t think so.

    Dr. Insel:

    In fact, evidence from nationally representative surveys of youth in the U.S. challenges recent concerns regarding widespread overmedication and misuse of medications, at least in adolescents. Among those with current mental disorders, only 14.2 percent of youth reported psychotropic medication use, and the majority who had been prescribed medications had a mental disorder with severe consequences, functional impairment, suicidality, or associated behavioral or developmental difficulties. In light of the evidence that about 1 in every 12 youth suffer from a severe developmental, behavioral or emotional disorder, under-treatment remains a serious problem.

    Of course, the problem may be both over-treatment and under-treatment. It is possible that children with issues that would be resolved by psychotherapy alone are receiving medication. It seems very likely, given the data in adolescents, that many who would benefit from medication and psychotherapy are receiving neither intervention. It is also worth considering that the rates of childhood mental disorders could be stable, but that more children are getting the treatment they need and, for many, detection and intervention is at an early age. If it is your child suffering acutely from anxiety, autism, anorexia, or depression, the problem is certainly not over-treatment. The CDC report showed that parents of more than one-half of those children who used a prescribed medication for emotional or behavioral difficulties had reported that this medication helped the child “a lot.” What I hear from families in crisis is lack of access, poor quality care, and a desperate need for answers. In the media reports on over-medicating children, this perspective is missing. The possibility that there is a real increase in the number of children suffering with severe emotional problems, just as there is a real increase in the number of children with diabetes and food allergies, is not even considered. Shouldn’t we be asking why so many children, at younger ages, are being seen for emotional and behavioral problems?

    Dr. Nardo:

    Actually, “Dr. Insel, Shouldn’t you be asking why so many children, at younger ages, are being seen for emotional and behavioral problems? Your agency is in charge of asking and answering these questions rather than bringing them up to defend the position that the current use of psychoactive medications in children is rational.”

    It’s funny. I don’t really see Tom Insel as a cause of what happened in psychiatry, but rather a product. He was something of a whiz kid finishing college at 17. He went straight from residency [1976-1979] to the NIMH and was in some kind of lab somewhere until becoming an administrator in 1994 [and ever since]. He has championed the neuroscience version of psychiatry since it came into view, and never wavered. He has never practiced psychiatry, or for that matter, any kind of medicine. From the dates, I would guess he did psychiatry training during the years when an internship in general medicine wasn’t required, though I don’t know that. He has moved from theory to theory about how brain disease causes mental illness, and in that he has never wavered either. He has micromanaged the directions of the NIMH rather than following some balanced sampling generated from the scientific community at large.

    Whether benignly motivated or not, it’s time for him to go somewhere else – get bumped upstairs, lead some foundation, take an academic post. He’s particularly ill equipped to lead the NIMH in an era when PHARMA is no longer supporting psychiatric research. His tenure has been characterized by big clinical trials initiated by his predecessor and a variety of initiatives that haven’t been particularly productive. This blog post is an example of his now tired and predictable thinking, cheerleading about the global burden of mental illness leading to the same old conclusions. Director of the National Institute of Mental Health is not his pulpit anymore…

    ——————————————————————————–

    UPDATE: I spoke too soon. This paragraph is from his next blog about the BRAIN:

    “What Freeman Dyson said about the importance of tools for new directions in science is critically important for NIMH. Biomarkers, new therapies, and preventive strategies for brain disorders, especially for the “connectopathies” that we call mental disorders, will require better tools. NIMH will be co-leading the BRAIN Initiative with our sister institute, the National Institute for Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS). Whether you are a scientist working on synapses or a family member challenged by a mental disorder, the BRAIN Initiative represents a bold commitment by the NIH, offering hope for the development of better tools to enhance our understanding of the brain in health and disease.”

    “connectopathies”!? “chemical imbalances” was easier to say…

    3 Comments for ‘fore·told…’

    Altostrata

    June 13, 2014 | 1:54 PM

    There’s so much illogic in Insel’s statement. Since he asserts psychiatrists are not responsible for the huge increase in drugging children, does he really think PCPs are doing a good job of diagnosing and treating their psychiatric disorders?

    The estimable Dr. Claudia M. Gold, the “Child in Mind” psychiatrist, responds with good sense to Insel here http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/childinmind/2014/06/insel_of_nimh_misses_the_mark.html

    Mickey

    June 13, 2014 | 6:18 PM

    I second that link to Claudia’s site. She points out the depth of the problem of uncared-for children that Dr. Insel actually amplifies by his monocular reductionism on matters brain [which we don’t understand] and denying psychosocial issues [which we do understand but choose to ignore].

    Tom

    June 13, 2014 | 8:52 PM

    The next head of NIMH should be a CLINICIAN-researcher. Or maybe simply a CLINICIAN surrounded by a host of researchers as support. We need someone who has been in the trenches with “dis-eased” people and their families. Someone who understands what a psychological, intrapsychic fire fight is, someone who has real experience with the internal politics of the mind (or “brain” if you prefer), not someone who is an academic bureaucrat with experience solely in external politics.

  • Chrys,

    In a response to one of my posts above on psychosis, you accused me of something I didn’t think I did, but out of concern for you and others, I wrote a response to ensure that I clarified my position in that contrary to what you claimed, I in no way see those suffering psychosis as being equivalent to ax murderers. In fact, as I explain from much reading I know the opposite is true based on statistics and studies about the supposed dangerousness of those having psychotic episodes.

    I have now reposted my response to you twice with no acknowledgement from you. Yet, I have noticed that you have continued to post with others up until now, so I am wondering if you are holding some grudge for something not done or intended by me or are simply ignoring me in general to punish me for my perceived crime. Perhaps you have not seen my hard efforts to communicate with you by posting my response to you twice despite notifications of new comments by email, so I will try to make one final attempt to get your attention to at least read my response after accusing me of equating psychosis with ax murderers!

    Since you claim to spend much time fighting injustice, when you accuse others of being unjust, it seems you should at least be open to the possibility you misunderstood them and jumped to conclusions, which resulted in being unjust yourself in your assessments of others. This is especially true if you refuse to consider their attempts to clear up possible misconceptions and misunderstandings as I think is true in my case.

    As I said, because I have a great respect for all of your hard efforts for psych rights, I was concerned when you seemed to interpret what I said in ways I sure didn’t intend. Since I believe I am equally concerned about psych rights, I hope you will give me the benefit of the doubt and read one of the two responses I posted in response to your “ax murderer” charge against me, which I don’t take lightly and doubt most here at MIA would.

    Thanks for your hoped for consideration,

    Donna

  • As I said above, those fighting against the bogus ADHD epidemic and toxic kiddie cocaine should also fight the huge increase in presciptions for toxic neuroleptics for children and toddlers for ADHD, bipolar and other bogus, voted in DSM stigmas created with Big Pharma to push the latest lethal drugs on patent. Dr. Fred Baughman realized that the bogus bipolar epidemic in children needed to be fought after he wrote his great book ADHD Fraud. Many children are given toxic cocktails both many of these poison drugs for maximum disability!

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/why-are-our-toddlers-being-prescribed-antipsychotic-drugs/story-fni0dobs-1226946316491

  • Many brave mental health experts and those like Bob Whitaker have spoken out against the monstrosity of drugging children with toxic drugs with the most egregious the horrible neuroleptics that are even criticized for their massive harm of brain/body organ damage and other toxic effects for adults with psychosis. That these poison drugs are being used for misbehavior in children, so called depression, insomnia and everything else under the sun to make more billions for the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel is despicable to say the least.

    And where is our great government to protect us from this monstrous assault on our nation’s children? Right there aiding and abetting the paid shills of this monstrous Mafioso like cartel with the great Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH, writing a bogus justification for this horrific predation with toxic drugs on our nation’s children despite all the brave experts who have come out to vigorously protest against it even including Dr. Phil protesting before Congress.

    http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2014/are-children-overmedicated.shtml

    Dr. Insel’s disgusting, lame, unjustifiable pretense that this toxic drugging of our nation’s children is most likely justified while he even lowers himself to compare bogus mental stigmas with diabetes after he himself admitted DSM stigmas lack validity is pathetic and evil to say the least.

    But, as Dr. Mickey Nardo has exposed, Insel has no clinical experience in psychiatry while he did work with some primates in isolated research. He is also known to have close ties with Charles Nemeroff who is infamous for all of his close ties to Big Pharma that got him targeted by Senator Glassley when he exposed many psychiatrists as on the take with Big Pharma under the table while working with government grants, which was illegal. Both Insel and Nemeroff helped each other get jobs at their respective universities and the NIMH, so no surprise that both are beholden to Big Pharma and the KOL’s of biopsychiatry/the APA, which means they have minus billion concern for what they do to their victims, the citizens for whom they are supposed to be concerned for their health.

    As far as I am concerned, anyone who can advocate subjecting children and toddlers to poison psychiatric drugs and especially neuroleptics is a psychopath with no conscience whatsoever unless there is a dire, very unique case where it might be temporarily justified, which would be too rare or never justifiable to make the massive profits Dr. Insel needs to deliver to his cohorts in crime to justify his position.

  • Here is source of Dr. Phil protesting toxic use of child drugging in foster care:

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/overnights/207679-overnight-healthcare-mental-health-push-after-calif-shooting:

    Dr. Phil analyses foster care: The celebrity psychologist Dr. Phil McGraw told lawmakers the foster care system was broken, saying children were being overprescribing psychotropic drugs.

    He argued the government should spend more money to pay for psychotherapists to treat foster children with emotional problems instead of trying to mask the issue by overprescribing drugs they may become addicted to.

    McGraw was on Capitol Hill to promote and seek more funding for a new partnership with the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid to help states and tribal governments improve care for foster children.

  • Despite the fact that many experts with a conscience have deplored the use of not only kiddie cocaine like bogus ADHD drugs and the horrific brain/body damaging neuroleptics now forced on children and toddlers no less for both bogus ADHD and bipolar thanks to the evil Dr. Joseph Biederman working a s paid shill for Big Pharma to create the new child bipolar epidemic, our illustrious head of the NIMH, Dr. Thomas Insel, has just written a blog to address/justify this horrific monstrosity perpetrated against our nation’s children with much protest and outrage by those with a conscience including Bob Whitaker and many noble people cited by Insel to refute them:

    http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2014/are-children-overmedicated.shtml

    Given Dr. Insel’s role in pushing the horrible bogus biopsychiatry DSM paradigm of “mental illness” and this latest predation on our nation’s children, I believe he has a serious character disorder of malignant narcissism or psychopathy that would allow him to advocate for the destruction of so many citizens with the lastest predation on our nation’s children. I feel nothing but contempt and disgust for this latest disease mongering, justification and pretense that bogus DSM stigmas voted in with Big Pharma to push the latest lethal drugs and other treatments on patent on as many as possible without informed consent with the pretense that this explosion of such bogus mental death stigmas are equivalent to that of diabetes or real illness though both probably have their roots in the growing power of the 1% that have ensured the worst massive inequality, injustice, oppression, poverty and social evils in our country since its inception. That those like Dr. Insel aid and abet such predation on vulnerable people makes him an enemy of the people.

    http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2014/are-children-overmedicated.shtml

    What makes Insel’s justification for this nightmare over drugging of children all the more despicable is that Insel himself has admitted that DSM stigmas are invalid and that the toxic drugs used to “treat” psychosis, depression and other so called disorders often lack efficacy and cause great harm for many people. Thus, for this so called head of the nation’s National Institute For Mental Health to justify this evil monstrosity and war against our nation’s children for greed, profit and power shows that our government is truly a corrupt, totalitarian, deadly establishment enthralled with its own evil power and corporate cronyism while destroying the rest of our country and humanity in the process.

    You have cited Dr. Baughman, Neurologist, as protesting the fraud of ADHD, but he has also protested the fraud of the bipolar and other child epidemics as he has realized this growing assault on children to push the horrific neuroleptics and so called mood stabilizers on the very lucrative market of children no less!

    Even Dr. Phil has now spoken before Congress against the horrible over drugging of children with Medicaid and in the foster care and other government systems for children while advocating for more funds for psychotherapy for life problems/crises these children suffer rather than covering them up/suppressing them with drugs while causing more harm. I am very impressed that Dr. Phil would do that though I know he’s never been a great fan of the DSM/drugging enterprise.

    It’s obvious these people have no conscience that they could advocate lethal drugs known to cause brain damage, destroyed health and early death by an average of about 25 years in adults to destroy the lives of children even more quickly and completely. To allow this to happen shows our nation and its leaders have lost their moral compass if they ever had one.

  • Chrys,

    I was concerned about a misunderstanding with regard to one of my posts above and posted a response to your response to my original post to clarify what I meant.

    Since there were no reply buttons beyond several posts I am reposting my response her with a reply button right under your latest post with the hope you will see it since you raise critical issues that are very important to me and other MIA members as well.

    Here’s the post I wrote in response to yours about a seeming misunderstanding about psychosis:

    Donna on June 6, 2014 at 2:35 pm said:

    Hi Chrys,

    I have to respond here for lack of a reply button under your comment to me.

    Thanks for your response because you called it to my attention that what I wrote could be misconstrued to mean the opposite of what I meant.

    I have stated in a few places recently that I don’t have a great deal of knowledge about psychosis though I’ve read quite a bit about it by survivors and other sources because I’ve wanted to learn more about all the various extreme states fellow MIA members or family members might suffer since we all suffer from various emotional stressors or extreme states from time to time with the intensity depending on the stressor or trauma/crisis.

    I am well aware of the fact that studies show that those with so called schizophrenia or psychosis are not much more violent than most people except when abusing alcohol or other certain substances as is the case with other people. Rather, the statistics show that those suffering psychosis are more frequently the victims of violence rather than the perpetrators or “ax murderers” as you say.

    Thus, in my comment to Dr. Steingard I once again admitted I do not know a great deal about psychosis or what is labeled schizophrenia, but have expressed a desire to learn more since I feel an affinity with those who have suffered extreme states due to traumatic experiences and other causes. It’s also because I believe that “no man (woman) is an island and…never ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee” in that we are all on this trip together and who knows what or where a certain breaking point beyond the pale will lead any one of us? Some people are forced to endure much more than others that can lead to more extreme states.

    Anyway, as I gave Sandy the credit she deserves for trying to find the most helpful and least harmful treatments for those with psychosis she mainly serves, I acknowledged that when somebody is experiencing active psychosis, it can be scary when one has no experience of it and doesn’t know how to respond or deal with the psychotic person. Thus, without the necessary skills one can make matters worse and/or a bystander without the best motives may actually subject the psychotic person to violence themselves out of fear, anger or cruelty. Such behavior may also cause the psychotic person to act out as well, but as I said statistics show it is the psychotic person more apt to be the victim of violence, so it seems to me that when in such a state, the safest solution seems to be to have a compassionate expert like Dr. Steingard persuade the person to leave the area to minimize the possibility of harm.

    I pointed out that I am very angry about bogus stigmas especially for those falsely labeled bipolar for domestic/work/school and other abuse/violence, but also acknowledged that somebody acting psychotic in public has an obvious, probably temporary crisis condition that may require short term judicious use of tranquilizers for a calming effect that may be stigmatized due to public ignorance and fear. It seems that since it is now being seriously questioned to expect those diagnosed with schizophrenia due to psychosis to take dangerous neuroleptics for life, it seems all the more outrageous to try to force those falsely accused of having bipolar to take these toxic drugs for life. As with chemotherapy for cancer with informed consent, some people with psychosis may choose to take such drugs judiciously to cope with psychotic episodes while those with no cancer or psychosis would not wish to take the risk for something they do not have. Of course, many have been falsely stigmatized with psychosis, delusions, schizophrenia and other so called mental illnesses, so one much consider each individual case and bear in mind that all DSM stigmas are invalid per Dr. Thomas Insel of the NIMH. Thus, I am only speaking of actual psychotic symptoms that one might or might not have.

    I hope this clarifies that I am in no way trying to vilify those with psychosis since I have stated in some recent posts that I am trying to understand it better along with experts like Dr. Bertram Karon and Dr. Richard Bentall advocating psychotherapy for it rather than harmful drugs. In response, Rossa Forbes provided a great link to such experts in therapy for psychosis, so I assume she thought I was earnest in wanting to learn more as she has become somewhat of an expert trying to help her son.

    Since you yourself have said at times you had no choice but to seek care from the current psychiatry system for yourself and family despite your many reservations about it, I don’t see how you can condemn me for thinking that somebody acting out in a psychotic manner publicly may need temporary help from an expert like Dr. Steingard who is experienced in dealing with psychosis to help the person avoid being harmed until the crisis has passed.

    Again, I realize I am treading difficult territory since I am by no means an expert on psychosis or schizophrenia and welcome any wisdom you are willing to provide, but rest assured, I often find myself fighting for the rights of so called schizophrenics and against forced treatment and false claims about their so called violence as if I had it myself, so rest assured I am on your side and I in no way see those with psychosis as ax murderers. However, you lamented that women could act out in ways dangerous to themselves under the influence of toxic drugs in psychiatric wards, so I am sure that anyone suffering psychosis in public can be subject to much danger from others and be goaded to being a danger to others if provoked or made fearful enough.

    Though my pet peeve remains the bogus bipolar epidemic, I do read all the articles on schizophrenia and other extreme states to try to understand what fellow MIA members experience.

    Thanks again for your response and alerting me that I should be more careful and exact about my wording on this challenging topic. I regret it if I worded my post in a way that offended you and others since I do admire you a great deal and all you’ve done to promote the rights of those suffering from trauma and other extreme states.

  • Hi Chrys,

    I have to respond here for lack of a reply button under your comment to me.

    Thanks for your response because you called it to my attention that what I wrote could be misconstrued to mean the opposite of what I meant.

    I have stated in a few places recently that I don’t have a great deal of knowledge about psychosis though I’ve read quite a bit about it by survivors and other sources because I’ve wanted to learn more about all the various extreme states fellow MIA members or family members might suffer since we all suffer from various emotional stressors or extreme states from time to time with the intensity depending on the stressor or trauma/crisis.

    I am well aware of the fact that studies show that those with so called schizophrenia or psychosis are not much more violent than most people except when abusing alcohol or other certain substances as is the case with other people. Rather, the statistics show that those suffering psychosis are more frequently the victims of violence rather than the perpetrators or “ax murderers” as you say.

    Thus, in my comment to Dr. Steingard I once again admitted I do not know a great deal about psychosis or what is labeled schizophrenia, but have expressed a desire to learn more since I feel an affinity with those who have suffered extreme states due to traumatic experiences and other causes. It’s also because I believe that “no man (woman) is an island and…never ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee” in that we are all on this trip together and who knows what or where a certain breaking point beyond the pale will lead any one of us? Some people are forced to endure much more than others that can lead to more extreme states.

    Anyway, as I gave Sandy the credit she deserves for trying to find the most helpful and least harmful treatments for those with psychosis she mainly serves, I acknowledged that when somebody is experiencing active psychosis, it can be scary when one has no experience of it and doesn’t know how to respond or deal with the psychotic person. Thus, without the necessary skills one can make matters worse and/or a bystander without the best motives may actually subject the psychotic person to violence themselves out of fear, anger or cruelty. Such behavior may also cause the psychotic person to act out as well, but as I said statistics show it is the psychotic person more apt to be the victim of violence, so it seems to me that when in such a state, the safest solution seems to be to have a compassionate expert like Dr. Steingard persuade the person to leave the area to minimize the possibility of harm.

    I pointed out that I am very angry about bogus stigmas especially for those falsely labeled bipolar for domestic/work/school and other abuse/violence, but also acknowledged that somebody acting psychotic in public has an obvious, probably temporary crisis condition that may require short term judicious use of tranquilizers for a calming effect that may be stigmatized due to public ignorance and fear. It seems that since it is now being seriously questioned to expect those diagnosed with schizophrenia due to psychosis to take dangerous neuroleptics for life, it seems all the more outrageous to try to force those falsely accused of having bipolar to take these toxic drugs for life. As with chemotherapy for cancer with informed consent, some people with psychosis may choose to take such drugs judiciously to cope with psychotic episodes while those with no cancer or psychosis would not wish to take the risk for something they do not have. Of course, many have been falsely stigmatized with psychosis, delusions, schizophrenia and other so called mental illnesses, so one much consider each individual case and bear in mind that all DSM stigmas are invalid per Dr. Thomas Insel of the NIMH. Thus, I am only speaking of actual psychotic symptoms that one might or might not have.

    I hope this clarifies that I am in no way trying to vilify those with psychosis since I have stated in some recent posts that I am trying to understand it better along with experts like Dr. Bertram Karon and Dr. Richard Bentall advocating psychotherapy for it rather than harmful drugs. In response, Rossa Forbes provided a great link to such experts in therapy for psychosis, so I assume she thought I was earnest in wanting to learn more as she has become somewhat of an expert trying to help her son.

    Since you yourself have said at times you had no choice but to seek care from the current psychiatry system for yourself and family despite your many reservations about it, I don’t see how you can condemn me for thinking that somebody acting out in a psychotic manner publicly may need temporary help from an expert like Dr. Steingard who is experienced in dealing with psychosis to help the person avoid being harmed until the crisis has passed.

    Again, I realize I am treading difficult territory since I am by no means an expert on psychosis or schizophrenia and welcome any wisdom you are willing to provide, but rest assured, I often find myself fighting for the rights of so called schizophrenics and against forced treatment and false claims about their so called violence as if I had it myself, so rest assured I am on your side and I in no way see those with psychosis as ax murderers. However, you lamented that women could act out in ways dangerous to themselves under the influence of toxic drugs in psychiatric wards, so I am sure that anyone suffering psychosis in public can be subject to much danger from others and be goaded to being a danger to others if provoked or made fearful enough.

    Though my pet peeve remains the bogus bipolar epidemic, I do read all the articles on schizophrenia and other extreme states to try to understand what fellow MIA members experience.

    Thanks again for your response and alerting me that I should be more careful and exact about my wording on this challenging topic. I regret it if I worded my post in a way that offended you and others since I do admire you a great deal and all you’ve done to promote the rights of those suffering from trauma and other extreme states.

  • Sandy,

    I posted the following comment on Daniel Mackler’s critique of biological psychiatry after you expressed some dismay about Daniel’s post. Since I questioned if you would see it, I am reposting it here in the hope that you will see it and understand the cognitive dissonance that makes some of us outraged by much of psychiatry while having a deep and growing admiration for you and your hard efforts in a very difficult field in great turmoil presently:


    Donna on June 5, 2014 at 7:08 pm said:

    Hi Sandy,

    As you know, I have given you a great deal of credit for all of your hard efforts to attempt to deal with the information you learned from Bob Whitaker’s Anatomy of an Epidemic that challenged some of your own “sacred symbols” of “schizophrenia” or psychosis. I especially appreciate your posts showing your efforts to work very closely with your patients to give the minimum dose required for those dealing with active psychosis while eventually trying to taper them down or off the drugs as is possible with informed consent for maximum safety. I also appreciate your hard efforts to learn about Open Dialog, various psychotherapies utilized by those like Dr. Bertram Karon, the Hearing Voices Movement and many other nondrug approaches.

    As you may have noticed, I wrote one of my scathing posts below about the bogus expansion of a huge “bipolar disorder epidemic” that has been used by the KOL’s of biopsychiatry to prey on mainly abused, raped, traumatized women and children subjected to domestic, school, work and other violence, bullying and mobbing including psychological and emotional abuse and terror as described by expert Dr. Heinz Leymann in his Mobbing Encyclopedia you can find on the web.

    You witnessed Dr. Ragins admitting that it is routine where he works to stigmatize raped women as bipolar as is also true of the military destroying countless lives, which many women are now fighting. As I have stated before and below, psychiatrist domestic violence experts have exposed that it is all too typical for abused women and children to be stigmatized as bipolar, ADHD, delusional, paranoid and other destructive stigmas that aid and abet their abusers in custody and other battles in the courts and do huge harm to them in general.

    Thus, I can on the one hand feel total disgust and contempt for those biopsychiatrists who deliberately cause abuse, trauma victims way more harm with life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs that do them way more harm than good and don’t address the real problems of the victims thus playing into the hands of the more powerful abusers. I have been exposed to the type of psychiatrists Daniel describes and in all honesty, he is putting it kindly given the many despicable evils I have observed among them when trying to rescue loved ones. Lying and bullying/mobbing were/are second nature to them so I don’t feel too kindly toward them and their “ethics.”

    Anyway, though I got some applause for my post below describing my disgust at biopsychiatry’s bogus bipolar predation on those suffering life crises like abuse, bullying, mobbing and others, I may get booed by stating once again that I don’t have much if any exposure to those with psychosis or “schizophrenia,” and I won’t deny that when I have encountered such people acting out in a very weird way, I feel nervous and uncomfortable around them and like Dr. Nardo says, I can feel fear of them too especially since I don’t know how to deal with them in the best, safest way that won’t cause them more stress and scary behavior. I would assume that those dealing with psychosis regularly have some methods and protocols to deal with the situation in the calmest, safest way possible. Also, though I despise the stigma deliberately doled out by psychiatry, when a psychotic person is acting out publicly, it isn’t too much of a secret that they have a problem at the time. It’s the stigmatizing of those who are not psychotic and psychotic and bipolar that really gets me!

    Therefore, I can applaud your work in dealing with these very difficult, challenging cases in the best interests of these people as you describe in your work. At the same time I can be and am disgusted and furious at the KOL’s and other psychiatrists who are trying to stigmatize everyone on the planet with the nasty, life destroying bogus bipolar I to IX “spectrum” stigma for very dubious reasons indeed other than the profit, status and ongoing stream of patients enjoyed by the charlatans like Nassir Ghaemi pushing this despicable agenda to the point of being manic himself per Dr. David Healy. Johanna Moncrieff has written about the huge bipolar epidemic she abhors as well given that so many are being given related toxic drugs like neuroleptics, lithium and so called mood stabilizers for normal life problems/stressors without true informed consent.

    Since others have access to your many excellent articles whereby you shared your extensive research of the studies showing the most judicious use of drugs for psychosis and the many non-drug approaches you’ve been exploring, I won’t repeat it here other than to repeat what I’ve said that I have a great admiration for your hard efforts to do the best you can with these very challenging cases. I also have to admit that if someone is acting out in a very psychotic way that may seem threatening to others, I can see where removing that person temporarily may be necessary for theirs and others’ safety until they can be calmed down and hopefully back to reality too in a short time. Such fear by the average bystander may be why those suffering psychosis also get subjected to violence more often because people may see them as threatening to themselves. Of course, I am speculating somewhat here since psychosis is not my area of expertise, but I feel it is important for me to address here in that I am assuming that you are dealing with people in a real potentially dangerous crisis situation while the psychiatrists I have criticized below are deliberately creating crisis situations or exacerbating them for mainly abused women and children in homes and those bullied/mobbed at work and school, which also tend to be female there for the most part too. You can check out the infamous, nefarious case of Phoebe Prince for a great example of “mean girls” ganging up on a high school student and bullying/mobbing her until she committed suicide. I was disgusted to read that she had been prescribed Seroquel to cope with this nightmare while making her out to be a mental case by some real “helpful” psychiatrist that an author used to make the problem seem to be Phoebe’s so called mental illness, which was bull. This was a case of a bunch of “mean girls” jealous that Phoebe was attracting some guys, so they had to “destroy her.” Great books like Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman, Women: The Best of Friends; the Worst of Enemies and many others expose that the great “sisterhood” isn’t everything it had promised!

    So, I hope you can see why I seem to have this cognitive dissonance in some of my critiques of biopsychiatry and most of those who practice it while having great admiration for the minority like you I’ve encountered at MIA and other web sites/books who actually work hard to learn the truth and find the best solutions for their patients rather than using bogus KOL “evidence based practice” made up with Big Pharma for the nasty purpose of lining their pockets no matter the risks to so called patients for so called mental illness they don’t have in the first place, but will after imbibing the toxic drugs.

    Anyway, I am not trying to cut off dialog with those who are as dedicated as you in your work though we may not agree on everything as we always acknowledge. As I said, I admire your courage and stamina for hanging in here and taking on those like Bernard Carroll at 1boringoldman. I must say that I rarely agree with Dr. Carroll for the most part and I like to see you hold your ground on real evidence based statements when he attacks like a pit bull! He was pretty harsh against Joanna Moncrieff, so I wouldn’t take it personally there or here since he seems quite set in his ways.

    When all is said and done, if you know you are doing the best you can for those you encounter in your work, that is the most important thing since you can’t please everyone, but you do have to live with yourself!

    Finally, I think of a biopsychiatrist as the worst kind just seeing people briefly to slap on a harmful DSM stigma that will likely make the most money (bipolar) and push toxic drugs in 15 minutes and just doing ongoing brief med checks from then on. Such a psychiatrist was the subject of a big article in the New York Times that Dr. Nardo cited on his blog since this psychiatrists’ total lack of interest and connection with his so called patients was astounding since he made no secret his major goal was to make as much money as possible to the point he would not even exchange a few extra words and hardly knew his “patients.”

    Thanks again for being here and hanging in there. Most of the diatribes here are not about YOU! They are about those who are a disgrace to yours or anyone’s profession

  • Milt,

    Yes, all of us fairly normal people have good and bad points. As Abe Lincoln said, “If you look for the bad in other people, you will surely find it.

    However, after I almost got destroyed by certain people, I began to do some research on the problem of evil in humans and there are some people who have been called psychopaths, malignant narcissists or just plain evil to the core who have no conscience and can basically act like intraspecies predators on their fellow humans while using great superficial charm, manipulation, flattery, excitement, humor (at others’ expense of course) and other tactics to destroy them with impunity. Though the term, “psychopath” brings to mind serial killers like Ted Bundy, Dr. Robert Hare, world authority on psychopaths, who even consults for the FBI exposes that many can be found in positions of power that he calls subcriminal psychopaths who ply their trade in many professions while destroying countless lives in the process with the Wall Street meltdown a perfect example of their work. His books, Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us and Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work describe the destruction these people can do to others with impunity with no guilt or remorse whatsoever. Dr. Martha Stout also describes these human predators in her great book, The Sociopath Next Door, as does Dr. John Clarke in his fine book, Working with Monsters and Psychopaths. Their evil, life destroying tactics are well described in these books while it is estimated that they comprise about 4% of the population.

    Dr. Stout warns us that though psychopaths would like us to believe we are as bad as them, she points out that it is our conscience that fills us with self doubt when judging others, so we tend to give psychopaths the benefit of the doubt despite our cognitive dissonance, which allows psychopaths to prey on us with impunity.

    I think if you read all of the posts here, many people have complimented Dr. Sandra Steingard who posts here though we may not agree with everything she does and says since as a practicing psychiatrist in the U.S., she must fit within the current DSM paradigm and medicalization of life to some extent. At the same time, Dr. Steingard is very honest about the shortcomings of psychiatry including the DSM labels and the far less than adequate drugs. Yet, as I said above, Dr. Steingard does have a conscience and does her best to do no harm and works hard to learn about the best care for those under her supervision.

    When this blog first started I got a wakeup call because we were thrilled and astounded when some psychiatrists were HONEST and we gave them much praise. One person pointed out that being honest should be the norm, which made me see how low our expectations of psychiatry had sunk when we marveled if one was honest based on our own many horrible experiences.

    I think you are a bit too harsh with your judgments of people in general since to put it in a Christian perspective, yes, we are all sinners who fall short of the mark or we all tend to make mistakes and do stupid things we regret that often have very negative consequences in our lives especially if any psychopaths are around since they will use it against us relentlessly as they ply their own evil trade. On the other hand, there are some people who truly are evil or rotten to the core who have no conscience, remorse or concern for their fellow humans and have no problem destroying them with impunity. Unfortunately, they are psychiatrists, lawyers, politicians, teachers and other “experts” who are very good at conning others to do their bidding as they perform smear campaigns on anyone who dares to challenge them.

    I don’t think the people here fall into this deadly category for the most part, but rather, they have been deceived and harmed a great deal by biopsychiatry thanks to the KOL’s in the APA who sold psychiatry out to Big Pharma to save their own skins at the horrific expense of those they “treated.”

  • Daniel,

    Thanks for your courage and honesty in dealing with all of us. I wrote a comment above expressing my appreciation for Sandy as a great example of what a psychiatrist should aspire to be while expressing deep regret that I had the misfortune of meeting some very nasty humans posing as psychiatrists while trying to rescue loved ones in the past that made the ones you describe seem like models of virtue and compassion/honesty!! Dr. Nardo laments some of these horrible psychiatrists on his site, 1boringoldman. Sadly, much of the problem is systemic with a bogus, life destroying pseudoscience paradigm that causes psychiatrists to be either fooled or complicit while destroying countless lives in their ignorance and/or greed while refusing to give up such a lucrative, powerful position even if they do finally learn about the great harm they are doing. And then again, there is the issue of social control for the power elite, which is why many biopyschiatrists are such abusive bullies just concerned about their role in the fascist therapeutic state.

  • Coming from you Stephen, your comment means a lot to me. Of course, like others and as I’ve said before, I always appreciate your very wise insights that you add to the mix based on your many experiences as a teacher, a former patient dealing with very traumatic life experiences and now a counselor/peer to those subjected to some of the worst of biopsychiatry.

  • Hi Sandy,

    As you know, I have given you a great deal of credit for all of your hard efforts to attempt to deal with the information you learned from Bob Whitaker’s Anatomy of an Epidemic that challenged some of your own “sacred symbols” of “schizophrenia” or psychosis. I especially appreciate your posts showing your efforts to work very closely with your patients to give the minimum dose required for those dealing with active psychosis while eventually trying to taper them down or off the drugs as is possible with informed consent for maximum safety. I also appreciate your hard efforts to learn about Open Dialog, various psychotherapies utilized by those like Dr. Bertram Karon, the Hearing Voices Movement and many other nondrug approaches.

    As you may have noticed, I wrote one of my scathing posts below about the bogus expansion of a huge “bipolar disorder epidemic” that has been used by the KOL’s of biopsychiatry to prey on mainly abused, raped, traumatized women and children subjected to domestic, school, work and other violence, bullying and mobbing including psychological and emotional abuse and terror as described by expert Dr. Heinz Leymann in his Mobbing Encyclopedia you can find on the web.

    You witnessed Dr. Ragins admitting that it is routine where he works to stigmatize raped women as bipolar as is also true of the military destroying countless lives, which many women are now fighting. As I have stated before and below, psychiatrist domestic violence experts have exposed that it is all too typical for abused women and children to be stigmatized as bipolar, ADHD, delusional, paranoid and other destructive stigmas that aid and abet their abusers in custody and other battles in the courts and do huge harm to them in general.

    Thus, I can on the one hand feel total disgust and contempt for those biopsychiatrists who deliberately cause abuse, trauma victims way more harm with life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs that do them way more harm than good and don’t address the real problems of the victims thus playing into the hands of the more powerful abusers. I have been exposed to the type of psychiatrists Daniel describes and in all honesty, he is putting it kindly given the many despicable evils I have observed among them when trying to rescue loved ones. Lying and bullying/mobbing were/are second nature to them so I don’t feel too kindly toward them and their “ethics.”

    Anyway, though I got some applause for my post below describing my disgust at biopsychiatry’s bogus bipolar predation on those suffering life crises like abuse, bullying, mobbing and others, I may get booed by stating once again that I don’t have much if any exposure to those with psychosis or “schizophrenia,” and I won’t deny that when I have encountered such people acting out in a very weird way, I feel nervous and uncomfortable around them and like Dr. Nardo says, I can feel fear of them too especially since I don’t know how to deal with them in the best, safest way that won’t cause them more stress and scary behavior. I would assume that those dealing with psychosis regularly have some methods and protocols to deal with the situation in the calmest, safest way possible. Also, though I despise the stigma deliberately doled out by psychiatry, when a psychotic person is acting out publicly, it isn’t too much of a secret that they have a problem at the time. It’s the stigmatizing of those who are not psychotic and psychotic and bipolar that really gets me!

    Therefore, I can applaud your work in dealing with these very difficult, challenging cases in the best interests of these people as you describe in your work. At the same time I can be and am disgusted and furious at the KOL’s and other psychiatrists who are trying to stigmatize everyone on the planet with the nasty, life destroying bogus bipolar I to IX “spectrum” stigma for very dubious reasons indeed other than the profit, status and ongoing stream of patients enjoyed by the charlatans like Nassir Ghaemi pushing this despicable agenda to the point of being manic himself per Dr. David Healy. Johanna Moncrieff has written about the huge bipolar epidemic she abhors as well given that so many are being given related toxic drugs like neuroleptics, lithium and so called mood stabilizers for normal life problems/stressors without true informed consent.

    Since others have access to your many excellent articles whereby you shared your extensive research of the studies showing the most judicious use of drugs for psychosis and the many non-drug approaches you’ve been exploring, I won’t repeat it here other than to repeat what I’ve said that I have a great admiration for your hard efforts to do the best you can with these very challenging cases. I also have to admit that if someone is acting out in a very psychotic way that may seem threatening to others, I can see where removing that person temporarily may be necessary for theirs and others’ safety until they can be calmed down and hopefully back to reality too in a short time. Such fear by the average bystander may be why those suffering psychosis also get subjected to violence more often because people may see them as threatening to themselves. Of course, I am speculating somewhat here since psychosis is not my area of expertise, but I feel it is important for me to address here in that I am assuming that you are dealing with people in a real potentially dangerous crisis situation while the psychiatrists I have criticized below are deliberately creating crisis situations or exacerbating them for mainly abused women and children in homes and those bullied/mobbed at work and school, which also tend to be female there for the most part too. You can check out the infamous, nefarious case of Phoebe Prince for a great example of “mean girls” ganging up on a high school student and bullying/mobbing her until she committed suicide. I was disgusted to read that she had been prescribed Seroquel to cope with this nightmare while making her out to be a mental case by some real “helpful” psychiatrist that an author used to make the problem seem to be Phoebe’s so called mental illness, which was bull. This was a case of a bunch of “mean girls” jealous that Phoebe was attracting some guys, so they had to “destroy her.” Great books like Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman, Women: The Best of Friends; the Worst of Enemies and many others expose that the great “sisterhood” isn’t everything it had promised!

    So, I hope you can see why I seem to have this cognitive dissonance in some of my critiques of biopsychiatry and most of those who practice it while having great admiration for the minority like you I’ve encountered at MIA and other web sites/books who actually work hard to learn the truth and find the best solutions for their patients rather than using bogus KOL “evidence based practice” made up with Big Pharma for the nasty purpose of lining their pockets no matter the risks to so called patients for so called mental illness they don’t have in the first place, but will after imbibing the toxic drugs.

    Anyway, I am not trying to cut off dialog with those who are as dedicated as you in your work though we may not agree on everything as we always acknowledge. As I said, I admire your courage and stamina for hanging in here and taking on those like Bernard Carroll at 1boringoldman. I must say that I rarely agree with Dr. Carroll for the most part and I like to see you hold your ground on real evidence based statements when he attacks like a pit bull! He was pretty harsh against Joanna Moncrieff, so I wouldn’t take it personally there or here since he seems quite set in his ways.

    When all is said and done, if you know you are doing the best you can for those you encounter in your work, that is the most important thing since you can’t please everyone, but you do have to live with yourself!

    Finally, I think of a biopsychiatrist as the worst kind just seeing people briefly to slap on a harmful DSM stigma that will likely make the most money (bipolar) and push toxic drugs in 15 minutes and just doing ongoing brief med checks from then on. Such a psychiatrist was the subject of a big article in the New York Times that Dr. Nardo cited on his blog since this psychiatrists’ total lack of interest and connection with his so called patients was astounding since he made no secret his major goal was to make as much money as possible to the point he would not even exchange a few extra words and hardly knew his “patients.”

    Thanks again for being here and hanging in there. Most of the diatribes here are not about YOU! They are about those who are a disgrace to yours or anyone’s profession!

  • At times as I have considered history in the past, I thought I was fortunate not to have been born in Nazi Germany whereby the eugenics of biopsychiatry caused many so called doctors to murder people they stigmatized as “mentally ill” or otherwise “useless eaters” and “human vermin to purify their race or population. Similarly, I thought myself fortunate not to have been born during the Inquisition and the times of witch hunts whereby mostly women were preyed on, tortured and destroyed due to their alleged witchcraft. Others of both sexes were tortured and burned at the stake for being heretics against the mainstream religion of the time.

    No more! Being older, I became horrified to find out that Dr. Thomas Szasz was absolutely right in that the horrific, junk science DSM voted in by mainstream psychiatry in bed with Big Pharma to redefine itself as a medical profession as Freudian analysis waned became the new Inquisition and witch hunts/state religion, “therapeutic state” of my own time with the horrific bipolar fad fraud created to include the character disordered, psychopaths/malignant narcissists, serial murderers, and rape, domestic violence and mobbing/bullying victims in homes, schools and communities at large.

    And the Ralph Torrey’s of our country keep spreading the news far and wide that anyone with such “severe mental illness” demonstrated by being stigmatized as bipolar or schizophrenic means you can be preyed on, forced into life destroying brain/body damaging “treatment,” and have all of your human, civil, democratic rights removed permanently for life thanks to this vile, evil, predatory agenda to push the latest toxic drugs on patent per Dr. David Healy in his great books like Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder. Now if children or anyone else are “irritable, angry or just have normal human emotions or reactions to toxic environments,” they can be stigmatized and destroyed with a bipolar stigma! The same is true for one and all except those in power.

    I find it appalling that the entire mental “health” system went along with this horrific charade including social workers, psychologists and psychiatrists! For those going to psychiatrists for help with their human problems and crises, this was such an egregious, despicable betrayal it boggles my mind. Many of us who either got caught up in this Kafka like nightmare ourselves or through our family members felt like we had entered hell, which we had with our abusers justified and validated when calling their victims “crazy” as they always had. See the great movie, Gaslight, about a psychopath using this horrific agenda to destroy his wife’s life to rob her after murdering her aunt to obtain some valuable jewels.

    That’s why one of the few psychiatrists known as the conscience of psychiatry, Dr. Peter Breggin, warned that the most dangerous thing one could do is visit a psychiatrist in his great book, Toxic Psychiatry, whereby he warned one would be guaranteed a life destroying stigma and a prescription for toxic drugs in mere minutes if one failed to heed his critical, life saving warnings. I am shocked that there aren’t more psychiatrists, psychologist, social workers speaking out against these crimes against humanity like Lucy Johnstone gracing the front page of MIA now:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2013/01/time-to-abolish-psychiatric-diagnosis/

    With all due respect to Robert Whitaker and Dr. Steingard, that you don’t seem to see that giving someone a life destroying stigma known to be fraudulent and that will destroy a person’s relationships, career/job prospects, family and everything else that ever mattered to them “makes me want to holler,” which is the title of a book by a black man protesting racism. Psychiatric assault with such predatory stigmas and lethal drugging of those suffering life crises, abuse, rape and trauma is simply unconscionable and the more ethical, caring mental health experts speak out against it, the better off everyone will be with the current biopsychiatry eugenics thrown in the same dustbin of history like the Nazi eugenics that has fostered this new predatory agenda against humanity or the 99%. Biopsychiatry has continued this sordid eugenics enterprise with the never ending search for The Missing Gene and The Gene Illusion exposed by Dr. Jay Joseph to maintain that bogus DSM stigmas are genetic and/or due to bad brains in their victims in a massive, sordid coverup of social evils, injustice, oppression, sexism, racism, etc. There is simply no excuse to stigmatize a huge sector of the population with the bogus bipolar, the new “sacred symbol” biopsychiatry to prey on normal humans with impunity for greed, profit, status and power. The fact this is now routinely done to children with toxic drugging shows our country and others have lost their moral compass.

    I agree with those who point out that those who have not experienced this horrific betrayal and assault on their own humanity cannot possibly totally understand or empathize with the horror of being treated like a subhuman and subjected to psychiatric assault during a life crisis, domestic abuse, rape and other human horrors. Dr. Judith Herman, psychiatrist and abuse/trauma expert describes how it is much easier for “experts” and society to blame the victims and side with the perpetrator even by doing/saying nothing while the victims are routinely destroyed and scapegoated. But, to stigmatize the victims with borderline personality disorder, an insult for abuse trauma victims, as Dr. Herman points out and now with the horrific bipolar per psychiatrist and domestic violence expert, Dr. Carole Warshaw, is such a massive, egregious betrayal it boggles my mind. Nice to know that psychiatry stands firmly on the side of the perpetrators by subjecting such victims to such massive betrayal, human rights violations and retraumatization also described by Dr. Aphrodite Matsakis in her great trauma book, I Can’t Get Over It.

    With all the damning information about the pseudoscience of the DSM and biopsychiatry in general, there is simply no excuse to continue this life destroying paradigm promoted solely and soullessly to feather the nests of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel while justifying the increasing robbery and oppression of the 1% biopsychiatry really serves.

    I have noted that the great enlightening book, Mad Science, reviewed at MIA and exposing all the fraud behind biopsychiatry is included in the list of related posts as it well should be.

    Sadly, there are not two sides to this issue since one has the truth and ethics behind it while the other side has neither!

  • Our Words Are Our Weapons: The Feminist Battle of the Story in the Wake of the Isla Vista Massacre

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/24082-our-words-are-our-weapons-the-feminist-battle-of-the-story-in-the-wake-of-the-isla-vista-massacre

    Of course, few are acknowledging the problem of mostly white male entitlement, misogyny, the rape culture, domestic, work and other violence/bullying and mobbing against women that motivated Rodger while “men explain things to us” per usual. And I realize Rodgers was only half white though he seemed to identify with the white male culture per his rants.

    Rodger wasn’t “mentally ill,” but rather, he was enraged that the women he encountered and tried to prey on failed to meet his sexual, relationship and ego needs per his misogynist entitlement, so they deserved to be degraded, punished or die along with the supposed inferior men these horrible women chose instead of him given how he saw himself as such a great prize to all the ladies. One psychiatrist rightly said Rodgers had what is now called a personality disorder that used to be called a character disorder also called just plain evil, lack of conscience or psychopathy/sociopathy/malignant narcisssim! Since we have what is called a Narcissist Epidemic and Culture of Narcissism, good luck rounding up all the dangerous ones! Sadly, the most dangerous ones aren’t rounded up since they can cover up their evil with charm, smooth talking and conning while those who may have psychosis and/or trauma as victims of the character disordered are scapegoated, blamed and rounded up for “treatment” that may make them dangerous due to the known dangers of psych drugs and psychiatric assault in general.

    Like all of these mass shootings with guns and the mental death profession’s toxic life destroying, rage inducing, ostracizing bogus stigmas and toxic drugs the major causes of the shootings, the NRA and mental death profession and corrupt government hacks will continue to use these shootings they helped create to call for more of the same guns and violence causing pills and stigma to create more violence to sell more guns and pills in a never ending vicious circle as long as America remains A Nation of Sheep and refuses to investigate, learn, acknowledge and fight for the truth and elimination and/or reduction of these evil forces destroying one and all.

    In the meantime, this is an excellent article about how the Rodgers vicious tirade and assault against women makes our woman hating, rights violating, misogynist rape/violence culture against women painfully clear in that Rodgers was/is just a product of this evil culture that continues to put women in fear and terror for their very lives for merely posting on the web, attending college, joining the military or daring to speak up and other male threatening actions. Yes, I realize men suffer violence too, but not anywhere near the extent of women while the right wing continues their backlash against any rights women have gained over the past decades and/or use them against women as when male batterers falsely accuse their female victims of domestic violence and win due to their more powerful positions and money. Obviously, the character disordered have no shame or pride while male bystanders are complicit when they don’t speak up and condone such behavior by others of their sex as with any type of bullying/mobbing/violence.

    Anyway, please read the article since I can’t do it the justice it deserves.

  • A Conversation with Robert Whitaker

    The Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America

    by BRUCE E. LEVINE

    Excerpt:

    Levine: Big Pharma and their partners in establishment psychiatry would like the general public to believe that the only critics of psychiatry are Scientologists. In reality, most scientists who are critics of psychiatry are also critics of the pseudoscience of Scientology. It is my experience that serious critics of psychiatry are not anti-drug zealots. For example, I know that you have talked with “psychiatric survivors” — ex-patients who want to reform mental health treatment. David Oaks, one of the leading activists in the psychiatric survivor movement, often repeats that some members of his MindFreedom organization continue to take their psychiatric drugs while many choose not to, and what MindFreedom and other psychiatric survivors are fighting for is truly informed choice and a wider range of treatment options. Do you think that David Oaks’s fight is the right one?

    Whitaker: Big Pharma and their partners in establishment psychiatry have smartly used Scientology to defuse criticism of their medications. I honestly believe that if Scientology weren’t around, then our society could have a much more rational discussion about our drug-based paradigm of care. As for the position taken by MindFreedom and other psychiatric survivors, I basically do think that is the right one to take, with two caveats. In order to make a “truly informed choice,” a person needs to know the long-term effects of a treatment. It’s not enough for people to be fully informed about the immediate “side effects” of a drug. People need to be presented with information about whether such treatment has been shown to better the long-term course of the disorder, or worsen it. They need to be told about long-term physical and cognitive problems that often arise with every day use of psychiatric drugs. So providing people with a “truly informed choice” is a tall order.

    My second caveat is this: As a society, we expect the medical community to develop the best possible form of care. We do not expect a medical community to offer a therapy that regularly leads to a bad end. And so, if we were to draw up a blueprint for reforming the current paradigm of care, it would be nice if the psychiatric community would try to develop therapeutic approaches that involved using psychiatric medications in a selective, cautious way that best promoted good long-term outcomes. In other words, I think psychiatry does have a responsibility to develop a true evidence-based model for using its drugs, a model that incorporates the long-term outcomes data. In the solution section of Anatomy of an Epidemic, I write of how doctors and psychologists in northern Finland use antipsychotics in a selective, cautious manner when treating first-episode psychotic patients, and their long-term outcomes are, by far, the best in the Western World. So if you believe in evidence-based medicine, then American psychiatry should look to the Finnish program as a model for reform. Doctors have a responsibility to lead, but I think that you see in David Oaks’ position a belief that establishment psychiatry in America cannot be trusted to provide such leadership. He’s right to believe that, of course, and that’s what is so tragic about modern American psychiatry.

    BRUCE E. LEVINE is a clinical psychologist and his latest book is Surviving America’s Depression Epidemic: How to Find Morale, Energy, and Community in a World Gone Crazy (Chelsea Green Publishing, 2007). His Web site is http://www.brucelevine.net

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/04/28/the-astonishing-rise-of-mental-illness-in-america/

    Given that biopsychiatry and its toxic drugs are based only on the most pernicious, self serving lies, as Bob Whitaker points out here, informed consent is a joke for the most part. I disagree that there are two equal sides here in that the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/Corrupt government hacks cartel perpetrate organized crime that is far more lethal for far more profits than the illegal mafia. They are on a par with the tobacco industry with “doubt as their business” as they continue their lies to continue to profit by destroying countless lives in the guise of help for the purpose of fascist social control for the power elite.

    Smokers destroying their health and lives argue that smoking calms them and other benefits just like those taking psych drugs. Some day I hope those taking psych drugs will feel like the same as unhealthy leper poison imbibers/promoters as smokers have been made to feel!! Psychiatry and its toxic drugs need to be abolished because there is too much room for their abuse by the psychopaths/malignant narcissists in power in homes, work, schools, government, medicine, etc.

    I have full sympathy for the majority tricked into these lethal, useless drugs based on bogus DSM stigmas and the need to slowly withdraw from them. But, with the tons of information about the huge harm of these toxic drugs with very little benefit, anyone speaking of them as life saving is sadly misguided. They may have been brainwashed to believe this garbage, but owe it to themselves and others to do their homework and learn the truth. As Dr. Peter Breggin points out, those on these drugs are often so “spellbound” they can’t see how bad off they really are on them, but others sure see it, especially those who want their victims on them for self serving, evil purposes.

    See Dr. Grace Jackson’s Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs: A Guide for Informed Consent and countless others exposing the huge bodily harm from these poisons!

    And the ever increasing disability tax burden is no small thing to keep allowing the mental death profession to destroy people’s health and lives from cradle to grave for greed, power, profit and status as fake doctors.

  • When you check out the very intelligent and truthful articles cited above about so called bipolar and the book, Mania, by Dr. David Healy, he exposes how and why this vile, predatory junk science epidemic was created like many others including anxiety, depression, social phobia and even ADHD to push the latest lethal drugs on patent when psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma. This was to give the very false impression these Wizards of Oz were real medical doctors by prescribing lethal drugs with phony names like antipsychotics implying that these poisons were magic bullets for the bogus “mental illnesses” the psychopaths/malignant narcissists at the top with huge conflicts of interest made up and voted in by committee.

    As you can see, while Dr. Healy and others becoming very concerned about how corrupt medicine has become with so much bogus disease mongering with bipolar the poster child for it, the current Wizard of Bipolar is right there to try to counter Dr. Healy’s great articles at Psychology Today and elsewhere to push his Big Pharma fraud infomercials to further his despicable bipolar agenda on everyone on the planet.

    It’s really sickening how Nassir Ghaemi never misses an opportunity to push his fraudulent, dishonest Big Pharma/APA informercials about the latest fraud fad epidemic of bipolar created by the APA/Big Pharma Cartel with the pretense that this junk sicnece he is pushing with many drug company ties is the same as what used to be the very rare phenomenon of manic depressive illness with causes unknown from which most people recovered after one episode to live normal lives. Bob Whitaker has exposed the massive disability and destroyed lives with the horrific bogus bipolar agenda of those like Nassir Ghaemi using this fraudulent, invented voted in stigma to justify his sordid career of preying on the normal human problems, crises, suffering and loss typical of human beings to profit from their suffering and destroy their lives. What is most despicable is the shock, horror and retraumatization of trauma survivors seeking help through such “doctors,” the “legal system” and others only to find they have been hijacked by psychopaths and malignant narcissists there to aid and abet their fellow abusers but to silence, discredit, stigmatize, ostracize and destroy the victims with impunity just like Stalinist Russia and all such fascist countries.

  • Caveat Emptor:

    Since the name, Bruce Charlton, seemed familiar I checked it out and found that Bruce Charlton had posted at MIA before. Though he initially seemed to represent the survivors’ movement by exposing toxic psychiatric drugs, he quickly began to advocate for the supposed great benefits of ECT in his last MIA blog that did not go over at all well with most MIA members/followers. That’s because MIA members are much too well informed to fall for such a sham. See Linda Andre’s Doctors of Deception highly recommended by Bob Whitaker.

    Unfortunately, though I greatly admire the 1boringoldman web site in some ways, many of the strongest advocates/colleagues of Dr. Nardo who hosts this site advocate for ECT along with Dr. Nardo, which I find very unfortunate and inconsistent since they are quick to attack other very harmful practices of biopsychiatry including bogus studies and harmful/useless drugs as well as lack of patient centered care. I only hope that some day Dr. Nardo and his colleagues will do as much “evidence based” research on the deadly effects of ECT and the huge corruption behind it thanks to Max Fink and Harold Sackeim and protest against this evil as ferociously as they do toxic drugs and other fraudulent treatments and so called “science.”

    I am adding this caveat because when I posted the above comment citing an article by Bruce Charlton, I did not recall him being an ECT advocate at MIA. This is what Dr. Peter Breggin referred to as stealth advocacy whereby one gives the appearance of being a reformer and against “toxic psychiatry and drugs” when the so called advocate is pushing ECT and other types of brain damage/lobotomy that are even worse than the drugs and other treatments they attack.

  • Comment by Dr. Bernard Carroll at 1boringoldman:

    May 15, 2014 | 10:02 PM

    Here is a delightfully trenchant commentary on EBM by the irrepressible Bruce Charlton. Bruce used to be editor of the journal Medical Hypotheses until he left that position in a disagreement with the publisher over a matter of principle. There are lessons here for all who would promote top-down science – Dr. Insel at NIMH, are you listening?

    http://charltonteaching.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/zombie-science-of-evidence-based.html

  • Hi Steve,

    Thanks for letting us know about your book, Jerk Radar. I will check it out and from what I’ve learned from your many great posts, I am sure it is filled with much wisdom, compassion, empathy and great advice that anyone can use, especially women without the necessary training/boundaries.

    As I’ve told you before, I have always appreciated your kind, empathetic, common sense and honest comments here about the perils of biopsychiatry.
    I’ve admired your efforts to bring up your kids with so called “ADHD” symptoms with a nondrug approach that recognized their uniqueness as human beings.

    I also appreciated your frequent validation when I cited many articles, books and experts exposing that abused women and children suffering trauma symptoms are now routinely stigmatized as bipolar, which I think is evil and heinous to do since it retraumatizes, blames and scapegoats the victims while aiding and abetting the abusers with more power, which is all too typical of biopsychiatry. Dr. Carole Warshaw, Psychiatrist and Domestic Violence expert exposes how psychiatry causes huge harm to abuse, trauma victims with bipolar and other bogus stigmas for their trauma symptoms in court, custody, asset and other battles when dealing with abusers that I’ve cited several times at MIA.

    I’ve had the misfortune of having to rescue loved ones from this nightmare and succeeded at great cost.

    I have appreciated the fact that you have acknowledged that in your counseling work, you have seen the bipolar stigma applied to abuse/trauma female victims all too frequently.

    I have written several posts at MIA recently exposing those like Nassir Ghaemi doing all in his ill gotten power to expand the bogus bipolar fraud epidemic ad infinitum while refusing to acknowledge any social, relationship, abuse, bullying, mobbing, environmental and other typical causes of the post traumatic stress INJURIES now covered up with the latest bipolar fad fraud taking over the former borderline insult stigma for abused women suffering from Complex Post Traumatic Stress injuries exposed by Dr. Judith Herman, author of the classic, Trauma and Recovery.
    What makes Ghaemi especially pernicious is that he deliberately uses known traumatic events to falsely claim that if the victim has any reaction, she has bipolar!!! He perpetrates every Big Pharma lie including that iatrogenic injuries from SSRI’s including mania uncover the victim’s bipolar, which is such an old Big Pharma ploy it would be laughable if not so deadly! Dr. David Healy exposes that Mitch Daniels, a Big Pharma CEO, came up with the great ploy to blame the victims’ so called mental illness for every iatrogenic, nasty drug effect, drugs that don’t work (treatment resistant…) and other typical psychopathic schemes to literally get away with murder. Ghaemi is also eliminating a requirement for mania or hypomania in such absurd labels as bipolar V, VI, ad infinitum he proposes!! Even over eating is now being considered bipolar due to its impulsive nature per a study I just read that screens for comorbid bipolar and borderline along with the eating disorder in a brief test. Do you believe this?? Needless to say I am very upset and worried about the fate of our children and humanity as biopsychiatry continues its fascist, destructive agenda even though the DSM and their bogus stigmas like bipolar have been proven and exposed to be totally invalid junk science even by Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH. So, obviously, the purpose of biopsychiatry has nothing to do with health or well being of any kind, but rather, the opposite as is all too clear now and has been since its beginnings as agents of social control in the guise of medicine. I cited a post by The Last Psychiatrist, who exposed that the real nefarious purpose of Ghaemi and cohorts is to eliminate most if not all depression “diagnoses” and convert them to bipolar now that SSRI’s are coming off patent and neuroleptics still make billions that can better be pushed for bogus bipolar now as so called “mood stabilizers,” a term invented by Big Pharma, as exposed by Dr. Healy that has no meaning whatever in terms of a medical term nor do neuroleptics “stabilize moods.” They are just chemical straight jackets that have the same horrible effect on all per Dr. Joanna Moncrieff, Dr. Grace Jackson, etc.

    Since this horrific expansion is just another evil ploy to push more of the brain/body damaging neuroleptics still on patent, I hope you will continue to speak out about this horrible menace since it places the abuse victims in all the more danger and at the mercy of all the abusers in their lives at work, home and the community at large only to be further betrayed, abused and retraumatized by the so called mental health system, courts, etc. The fact that they are preying on toddlers and babies in utero in addition to the elderly shows this profession has no shame or conscience in my opinion given that these drugs are well known to cause massive damage to the brain and body and early death by about 25 years on average with far worse effects on children and elderly.

    Actually, I have read that many of the character disordered target strong, successful women to charm, devalue and discard to exploit what they can and enjoy their great victory of destroying them with impunity as a greater challenge. Of course, as Dr. Robert Hare points out, we all have our weak spots and vulnerabilities and malignant narcissists/psychopaths are very good at ferreting them out and exploiting them without mercy. Dr. Hare admits that even experts like himself and Dr. Reid Meloy can still be conned by these predators regardless of their expertise, so he warns not to blame yourself since these predators will do this with anyone and they are apt to have a trail of lots of victims in their wake. However, he also points out in his book, Without Conscience, that depending on one’s background and boundaries one woman at the first sign or trouble will walk out and never look back while some become perpetual long suffering, martyr wives dealing with abuse, cheating, etc. So, I think coming from families that violated boundaries and engaged in other abuse/assaults on esteem certainly make women and people in general more vulnerable to these “snakes in suits, ” title of another of Dr. Hare’s books.

    Dr. Frank Ochberg, Psychiatrist and trauma expert, has a great article on spousal abuse at his web site, The Gift From Within. He also points out that often the original betrayal and abuse came from one’s family of origin making one more vulnerable to abuse, so there won’t be much help there:

    http://www.giftfromwithin.org/html/spousal.html

    One of the great benefits of books like yours is that women are often taught to doubt themselves or allow themselves to be pressured to act deferential to men, so they ignore red flags and their gut instincts unless they are very clear about what constitutes boundary violations and danger. Guy deBecker’s book, The Gift of Fear, is great in terms of coaching women and people in general to be aware of danger signs like a man’ s refusal to hear your “no,” excessive charm/flattery, gas lighting insults like “you’re too sensitive if you object to their controlling and other inappropriate behavior and other red flags.

    Finally, given your long career in therapy if I understand correctly, I’m sure you’ve seen it all and that your book would be especially useful. Thanks for pointing it out.

    I’m posting a link to Amazon for your book, Jerk Radar, and I see that it’s gotten many five star reviews, which is a very good sign about its quality and helpfulness.

    http://www.amazon.com/Jerk-Radar-Abusive-Relationship-Before/dp/1592997406

  • Hi wileywitch,

    Thanks for your comment and validation of my own reality based on your own experience and input. It sounds like you’ve come a long way through much hard effort and pain while being fortunate enough to find therapists/helpers able or willing to validate your experience and support you through it. Your story is very inspiring and I agree with you that you have to do reality checks from time to time since you really have to pinch yourself when confronting the horrible tactics of the character disordered.

    This is explained at the great web site, What Makes Narcissists Tick:

    http://narc-attack-mirror.blogspot.com/

    I agree that the book, Traumatic Narcissism, I cited above is expensive, so as much as I’d like to buy it along with many other books I am holding off with the hope a less expensive used or other copy might be available later. However, the concept conveyed by this author really floored me since though I was aware of the nasty tactics of the character disordered, Daniel Shaw’s concept of their traumatic subjugation of their victims while robbing them of their very selves and reality through many abusive, gas lighting, crazy making tactics really nailed it in my opinion unlike anyone else I’ve read.

    But, you can read quite a bit about the author’s ideas by clicking the “Look Inside” feature on Amazon and you will come to a reader with a table of contents, index and many sample pages from the book that are quite enlightening in the meantime. Also, if you google the author, the book and the words “traumatic narcissism” lots of articles by and about this author, book and the concept come up, which are also enlightening.

    http://www.amazon.com/Traumatic-Narcissism-Relational-Subjugation-Perspectives/dp/0415510252#reader_0415510252

    One of the best books on verbal/emotional abuse in my opinion is:

    The Verbally Abusive Relationship by Patricia Evans. Her follow up book, Verbal Abuse Survivors Speak Out is also excellent.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Verbally-Abusive-Relationship-recognize/dp/1440504636

    http://www.amazon.com/Verbal-Abuse-Survivors-Releationship-Recovery/dp/1558503048/ref=la_B001JPCCWY_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1400186717&sr=1-5

    Although these two books deal with marital and other male/female relationships, the complete and thorough description of most if not all verbal/emotional abuse tactics is excellent and very helpful for any type of relationship since this pulls the wool OFF your eyes to see why abusers use these deplorable tactics.

    Finally, in my opinion, one of the very best books on narcissistic abusive violence is Stalking the Soul by psychiatrist Marie-France Hirigoyen who also explains this type of evil, sneaky demolition enterprise against victims of all types of relationships with family, marriages, work, etc. If you read the great reviews, much gratitude is expressed toward the author who completely validates the target of such vicious abuse while exposing the malignant narcissist’s goal of complete destruction of his scapegoat/victim since this is the only way these predators can relate to them since they are empty souls!

    http://www.amazon.com/Stalking-Soul-Marie-France-Hirigoyen/dp/188558699X/ref=la_B001K178CQ_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1400186880&sr=1-1

    Of course, as you know, there are tons of others you can find by searching Amazon and reading the reviews which are also a great source of help, information and inspiration. I’m sure you have plenty of favorites yourself because you sound very well informed in your many posts.

  • Dr. Hickey,

    As usual, another great article exposing the fraud of medicalizing typical human behavior depending on one’s environment as “mental illness.”

    I am very impressed by your take on the problem of poor social skills that can begin in one’s youth and dog one throughout one’s adult years. You wisely point out that bullying at school can be a cause of such seemingly poor social skills when it is difficult for one to want to collude with and enable one’s own oppressors or seek further companionship with them. Often, teachers instigate or collude with such bullying through ignorance or malice. Also, dysfunctional families or what Daniel Shaw calls “traumatic narcissists” can destroy a child’s esteem and confidence while modeling horrible communication and lack of social skills.

    http://www.amazon.com/Traumatic-Narcissism-Relational-Subjugation-Perspectives/dp/0415510252

    Since you say that poor social skills can be taught, changed, improved and give some great examples without blaming or humiliating the victims, I was wondering if you can recommend some of the best books or other resources in your opinion to help one improve their social skills and confidence in social interactions. The reason is that somebody I care about recently said they feel alone and isolated because they never had/have good social skills. Like you, I said social skills are learned and not ingrained at birth, but since there is such a glut of books of the Dale Carnegie type, it’s hard to know what is the best approach as a “non-expert.”

    I am an avid reader of your very enlightening and refreshing web site and articles/comments at MIA too though I don’t always comment to avoid the “repetition compulsion” in my outrage against the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

    I especially appreciate the fact that you pull no punches and call a spade a spade with regard to the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel.

  • As the last/latest scam of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel like the bogus SSRI’s for depression “just like insulin for diabetes” LIE has been more and more widely admitted and exposed, one should not make the huge mistake of believing these human predators have any conscience, regret or honesty about this fraud perpetrated against humanity with huge consequences like creating mania with these toxic drugs to push lethal neuroleptics with the latest fad fraud bipolar stigma even more life destroying and deadly than the bogus depression stigma.

    Here, the very witty, intelligent blog of The Last Psychiatrist exposes the truth behind those like Nassir Ghaemi pushing to create such expanded, bogus bipolar guidelines that just about everyone on the planet will qualify for the absurd bipolar “spectrum” that can now exclude mania and hypomania and include just about every commonly used DSM stigma including depression, anxiety, PTSD, borderline, compulsive eating and any behavior that is not typical of or for the psychopaths in power preying on the rest of humanity to inflict mass suffering at the greatest profit:

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/04/farewell_depression.html

  • The Last Psychiatrist provides the real horrific and typical reasons and agenda for the push for massive expansion of bogus bipolar stigmas while waving good-bye to depression stigmas by Nassir Ghaemi I described above:

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/04/farewell_depression.html

    Just as Dr. David Healy described in his great book, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder, Ghaemi and his cohorts are exploiting the bogus agenda that has allowed horrible, brain/body neuroleptic drugs to be called “mood stabilizers” as one of many of the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel’s many fad, fraud epidemics to push the latest lethal drugs on patent by creating and/or expanding life destroying stigmas with the latest bipolar fad fraud now that the SSRI’s and other drugs are becoming generic/off patent/much less profitable. So, as the Last Psychiatrist exposes this is the despicable reason behind Ghaemi and his cohorts trying to eliminate depression and other DSM stigmas that call for drugs off patent with one of the worst deadly crimes against humanity ever: the horrible life destroying bipolar disorder stigma that is so “inclusive” it is used to “diagnose” serial killers like Gary Sampson and rape/abuse/trauma victims alike. Typical of biopsychiatry as Dr. Thomas Szasz has exposed, the serial killers, mostly men, are excused due to their so called bipolar with the insanity defense while raped, abused women and children are vilified and punished severely for their bogus bipolar stigmas to aid and abet the abusers in power.

    Anyway, despite Ghaemi’s and his cohorts’ pretense of concern about “mental health,” this ever expanding bipolar imperialism is all about pushing some of the worst if not the worst and most deadly/toxic neuroleptics on as many as this nefarious group can prey on with this lethal combination of one of the worst, degrading, life destroying, fraudulent stigmas ever in order to push some of the most toxic drugs on the planet with the Big Pharma invented name of so called “mood stabilizers” as also exposed in Dr. Healy’s book, Mania.

    The Last Psychiatrist truly nails the fraudulent science or lack thereof and the despicable agenda behind the never ending expansion of the bipolar fad fraud from literally cradle to grave with the interval much shorter thanks to those like Ghaemi and Company!

  • Thanks for your support Dan.

    You seem quite well versed in the bipolar/biopsychiatry fad fraud yourself. Actually, Biederman is one of Ghaemi’s heroes and mentors since Ghaemi has said he sees nothing wrong with what Biederman did in creating the child ADHD and bipolar epidemics and/or taking drug company money he forgot to report at the same time he obtained government grants while promising J&J positive studies on lethal neuroleptic drugs in advance before the studies were done. Given this type of example of Biederman, one can see why the younger turks like Ghaemi would be miffed at having the same fraud committed by him questioned, exposed and causing outrage as more and more people have caught on the truth about TOXIC PSYCHIATRY (by Dr. Peter Breggin).

    Dr. David Healy has done a great job exposing how the fad fraud bipolar epidemic was created to push the latest lethal drugs on patent in his great book, Mania.

    Here are some great articles by Dr. Healy on bipolar disease mongering:

    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0030185

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/side-effects/200904/bipolar-disorder-and-its-biomythology-interview-david-healy

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1518689/

  • Hi B,

    Thanks for your support. Based on the “us vs them” blog it appears we have some similarities in our backgrounds.

    I was just reading an article about eating disorder treatment and now the psychos of biopsychiatry are claiming that these women with eating disorders most likely have bipolar and/or borderline personality disorder due to their impulsive eating. They don’t admit that most of the processed food is toxic and made to be deliberately addictive since the food industry has the same psycho eithics as the mental death profession. So, warning: beware of the Trojan horse of seeking “treatment” for an eating disorder only to be fraudulently stigmatized as bipolar or borderline with Ghaemi wanting to put any signs of life in his bogus bipolar imperialism with him King. How ironic if these poor women get neuroleptics for bogus bipolar only to gain 100 pounds from these toxic drugs and further blamed and scapegoated for their “eating disorder.” They are screening for these bogus disorders with the same tool, which proves that both Dr. Judith Herman and Dr. Carole Warshaw were right by exposing that abused women suffering from complex PSTD are fraudulently stigmatized with the insult borderline personality disorder more in the past and bipolar disorder more recently. Most if not all of the current bogus bipolar stigma are trauma symptoms used to lie and deny any abuse/bullying/mobbing and blame/stigmatize the victims. Dr. Raggins who posted on MIA let the cat out of the bag by admitting that the mental health center he administers “diagnoses” rape victims with bipolar disorder!! Also, there are many articles on the web citing the outrage that women who report getting raped in the military are routinely stigmatized as bipolar to punish, discredit, silence, ostracize and destroy them for speaking out or daring to demand any justice from the old boy network.

    So, regardless of what the great Wizard of bipolar Ghaemi claims, all of these bogus stigmas mostly used against women are evil, fraudulent attempts to aid and abet the abuser users in power who exploit, rape, abuse and destroy women with impunity. Of course, this can happen to men too, but women are the main targets along with other minorities.

  • Since I am so outraged by the latest bipolar fad fraud, I’ve done much research on it and continue to do so. Thus, I couldn’t avoid finding the greatest bipolar fad fraud disease mongerer in the world seeking to stigmatize everyone on the planet with the vicious, pernicious bipolar degradation ritual, the one and only greatest Wizard of Bipolar Disorder, Nassir Ghaemi! He ahs made a huge contribution to making bipolar the latest “sacred symbol” of psychiatry that is much improved since anyone and everyone can be targeted unlike with the former sacred symbol of schizophrenia. If you google over diagnosis of bipolar disorder, you will find tons of articles with special emphasis on Dr. Mark Zimmerman’s Brown study showing at least half of those he and his colleagues interviewed who had gotten the bogus bipolar stigma did not have it per DSM IV standards. Since we all know the DSM has been declared totally invalid with all stigmas like bipolar lacking any science or evidence or 100% fraud per Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, we also know that all of the bipolar stigmas examined by Dr. Zimmerman were bogus as are all DSM stigmas. Tons of other articles expose this fraudulent epidemic of bipolar with that perpetrated against children thanks to Joseph Biederman of Harvard considered the worst of these millions of medical crimes against humanity.

    Anyway, I have found to my horror that Nassir Ghaemi is a self proclaimed bipolar expert who makes his bread and butter by constantly writing bogus books, text books and articles pushing the worst Big Pharma fraud about bipolar while constantly lying that bipolar is totally genetic and heritable when there is not a shred of proof to back up these typical fraudulent claims of biopsychiatry as exposed by Dr. Jay Joseph and many famous geneticists at MIA and elsewhere. I was also horrified to find out that Ghaemi was in charge of the so called “mood disorders” group of the DSM 5 with all the members including Ghaemi having huge drug company ties. Ghaemi has promoted every Big Pharma and other lie in the book to ensure that anyone visiting a psychiatrist will qualify for a bipolar stigma. He has created numerous categories of bipolar including bipolar III for those who had bad or manic reactions to SSRI’s, kiddie cocaine or other drugs whereby DSM IV forbade such a fraud of adding insult to iatrogenic injury by pretending the drug reaction listed in Physician’s Desk Reference and other sources simply unmasks the so called patient’s bipolar, a known Big Pharma ploy of always blame the victim’s “mental illness” for any deadly drug reactions or when the toxic drugs don’t work. In his bipolar megalomania, Ghaemi commits another outrage when he claims that anyone previously diagnosed with PTSD, depression, anxiety or even the insult stigma of borderline for abused women with complex PTSD should be diagnosed as bipolar. The reason is that Ghaemi claims that just because you experience horrific life events if you react in any extreme emotional way, this also shows your bipolar disorder. His expansion of bipolar IV to VI and on eliminates the requirement to have a manic or hypomanic episode so anything except total robotic behavior can and will be used to slap a bipolar stigma on one and all to keep those Big Pharma billions up for the latest lethal drugs on patent. Obviously, the psychopaths of biopsychiatry who cannot love or care for anyone but themselves, but rather, only exist to exploit and wield power over others, this vile profession is outlawing normal humans rights to having any normal feelings either. Anyway, I hope you get the point. As Dr. David Healy exposes, Ghaemi uses every fraudulent Big Pharma ploy to expand, expand, expand the horrific bipolar horror assault on humanity by blaming the victims’ so called bipolar or mental illness for everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink. He further shows his total lack of any conscience or ethics when he pronounces that just because drugs that he prescribes like lithium and so called mood stabilizers can be deadly and cause organ and other lethal brain/body damage , if one is diagnosed bipolar, psychiatrists should not hesitate to force these poisons on the victims of this horrific fraudulent assault on their humanity, health, right to informed consent and all the other monstrous actions of Ghaemi that some experts call “aberrant self promotion.” There is an enlightening exchange between Dr. Allen Frances and Ghaemi in Psychology Today whereby Frances seeks to minimize the damage done by the bipolar epidemic he helped create while Ghaemi fights for maximum expansion of this deadly fraud epidemic from cradle to grave with the pretense of promoting science for his many false claims and fight for the constant bipolar expansion agenda that Dr. Joel Paris, Psychiatrist, calls bipolar imperialisim with Dr. Joanna Moncrieff seconding that assessment.

    Anyway, I could go on about how literally ill I become whenever I have the misfortune to be exposed to Ghaemi’s deadly agenda showing that he obviously does not have one spec of empathy or conscience about the evil he is promoting, but instead I will post a link to the brilliant, funny, insightful web site of The Last Psychiatrist, whereby he exposes the total outrageous fraud and pernicious agenda of Nassir Ghaemi:

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/04/experts_weigh_in_on_bipolar_di.html

    It’s nice to see such brave souls in psychiatry willing to call a spade a spade expecially when that spade is literally putting millions of people in early graves with the spade of bogus biopsychiatry.

  • Thanks for your well thought out and honest response, Sandy. I appreciate your insights about Dr. Karon and therapy for “schizophrenics.”

    It may be as time goes on, you might find that as you explore the many different approaches to treating extreme states, you may find certain insights or ideas that stand out in most of them in some type of overall pattern that makes the most sense. You seem to have a great deal of respect for Open Dialog or dialogic practice with the example you cite about the man finally refusing to pay and not eat. In such cases it seems one must be familiar with an overall picture of the dialogic or other therapy while being able to tailor it to each individual as in this specific case.

    So, though all this research and education you are engaging in now may seem like a jumbled, useless mess, it seems to me that is will ultimately broaden your horizons and give you a much greater holistic, eclectic overall perspective of what is called “mental illness” or “psychosis” which will enable you to have greater and more compassionate insights into those you try to help instead of blindly relying on the old sacred cows or symbols of biopsychiatry that seem so harmful to so many people. That’s why I especially admire your hard efforts to keep learning and growing instead of taking the easy way out like so many others.

    I look forward to reading about your ongoing “education.” My grandmother used to say you had to go to school for everything and she wasn’t talking about formal education!

  • Hi Rossa,

    Thanks for this link. I think the article you cite is excellent, very informative and inspiring about therapy and recovery from “schizophrenia.” I know you are a long term resident expert on this topic from your very difficult family experience. Did your family find this particular type of therapy helpful? I know you have had your ups and downs? How are things going for you and your family now? Does your child still take psych drugs? Engage in this type of therapy? Are you familiar with Dr. Bentall’s work I cited below?

    Don’t want to seem nosy and obviously, if you don’t feel comfortable responding, that’s okay too. I’ve already learned a lot from you. And frankly, reading about the extreme states of those like Dan Fisher and others here, I tend to identify with many of their traumatic reactions to abuse and bullying that can happen at home, school, church, dating, work and society in general, so nobody is immune even if I haven’t ever experienced psychosis specifically. Another thing that gets me is those with narcissistic personality disorder act in a pretty delusional way about their perceived superiority, grandiosity, abusiveness, entitlement, scapegoating, supposed perfection and moral high ground and other nasty patterns that cause their targets much harm everywhere they go as shown in the article on Traumatic Narcissism I cited below. There is a good web site about them called Narcissists Suck. Psychopaths are another gem of a group destroying others with impunity. Thus, it galls me that bipsychiatry has targeted so called schizophrenics as their sacred symbol with the pretense they pose the greatest danger when in reality they are the most sensitive and vulnerable and easiest to exploit and prey on via Big Pharma for the psychiatric KOL’s in power.

    Anyway, reading reviews and information about Dr. Bentall’s and Dr. Karon’s books/work online and at Amazon, one can see schizophrenics are not much different than the rest of us with their severe emotional distress they express in their unique way. Dr. Karon says in his experience the experience of schizophrenics would drive anyone crazy! Think of all the pedophiles in churches and schools that terrorized and tormented their victims with authorities covering it up! And who did society and those in power believe including even many parents brainwashed and terrorized/guilt tripped all their lives? Anyway, these are just some rambling thoughts on this issue, but I can’t say I know a lot about it.

    Thank you again for sharing this enlightening web site. It greatly added to what I’ve been learning to dispel much disinformation about “schizophrenia,” as seeming hodgepodge of various reactions to life crises and traumas.

  • Hi Sandy,

    Thanks for your response. I can appreciate your reservations about some of the worst abuses of psychoanalysis based on some of the works of Freud and his followers that were ultimately rejected and/or criticized by those like Alice Miller, Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson and others. From what I understand Freud did not think that psychoanalysis was suitable for psychotic people and he and his followers tended to focus on more wealthy people in higher classes for the most part if I understand correctly. At the same time, child abuse did seem to play a great role in trauma/emotional distress even with Freud given his discovery that incest seemed to cause the so called hysteria epidemic he ultimately covered up under pressure from the perpetrators described in Masson’s book, Assault on Truth, as biopsychiatry often does today.

    I read the whole page and watched the video in the link I posted with my comment to you and felt that Dr. Karon seemed to be pretty straight forward about talking to his patients and finding meaning in their symptoms and suffering rather than trying to find obscure Oedipus complexes and other dubious methods promoted by Freud and his followers. Though I’m not an expert, it seems that Dr. Karon takes a more practical approach and recommends psychotherapy in this book:

    http://www.amazon.com/Psychotherapy-Schizophrenia-Treatment-Bertram-Karon/dp/1568212321/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1399504469&sr=1-1&keywords=Karon%2C+bertram+schizophrenia+therapy

    Dr. Richard Bentall also advocates for psychotherapy for psychotic people and finds the medication approach quite harmful while the relationship between therapist and patient is critical in his opinion:

    http://www.amazon.com/Doctoring-Mind-Current-Treatment-Illness/dp/0814791484/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0HDZB57KZ1N6P83DN58F

    Sandy, when you say you aren’t comfortable with the theory, do you mean psychoanalysis or psychotherapy in general since I think there is a difference. Do you?

    Did you think the Bertram Karon workshop you attended focused on more obscure tenets of psychoanalysis for schizophrenia that you found impractical especially for Community Mental Health Centers or do you think there are some aspects of Dr. Karon’s work that might be incorporated where you work? What do you think of Dr. Bentall’s work?

    I have been quite impressed with the following psychoanalytic work and how traumatic narcissism with its relational subjugation and oppression can cause much suffering for victims with loss of self or one’s own subjectivity and reality. I read some long excerpts from this book and didn’t find the information obscure or hard to understand as I have found with some works on psychoanalysis:

    http://www.amazon.com/Traumatic-Narcissism-Relational-Subjugation-Perspectives/dp/0415510252

    This is also covered in the excellent book, Stalking the Soul, by a French psychiatrist:

    http://www.amazon.com/Stalking-Soul-Marie-France-Hirigoyen/dp/188558699X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1399506095&sr=1-1&keywords=stalking+the+soul+emotional+abuse+and+the+erosion+of+identity

    Sometimes just validating one’s reality can help one maintain or recover one’s sanity if you recall the great movie, Gaslight, with Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman as I’ve said another of your posts.

    Anyway, thanks for your response. I’ll look forward to that article you might write some day comparing new theories you are learning, but even brief impressions by you would also be helpful and interesting in my opinion.

    I still admire you for investigating all these different methods to try to find the best options for your patients!

  • Vera,

    You have been a great hero of mine for a long time! I truly appreciate and applaud your great work and your making the effort to appear at the 2014 APA meeting and give a speech since you are a very highly regarded, brillinat and impressive lady who has made an enormous contribution to exposing the many dangers lurking in modern medicine.

    Also, your research and reporting are so excellent, thorough and accurate even those you chastise like Dr. David Healy for his horrible shock book still express their great admiration for you.

    I have been having trouble accessing your web site lately, but I hope you will continue to write your excellent articles and especially continue to expose biopsychiatry since many admit that this is the “specialty” that has the most corruption since it has been based on pseudoscience since the KOL’s of the APA sold the entire field out to Big Pharma to enhance their power, status and income at the horrific expense of those they deceived and harmed with impunity. As you recently exposed, both recent leaders of the NIMH have admitted that the DSM is an invalid sham!

    I look forward to seeing more of your great work and am so grateful and happy that you stood with the psychiatric survivors at the 2014 APA meeting since someone with your honesty and integrity stands in direct opposition to the destructive fraud that comprises most of biopsychiatry today. Thank you again for all of your hard efforts to make medicine safer for everyone and especially the children you fight to protect who can’t defend or speak for themselves.

  • Daniel,

    Thanks so much for making and sharing this great video. It can be frustrating after the latest APA protest I am unable to attend when one has a hard time finding much news about it. Your video did an outstanding job showing the many psychiatric survivor/protesters as this meeting while also focusing on some of our most “famous” people in the movement like the great Jim Gottstein who has done so much for the movement and fighting for rights and freedom and many others.

    I was also impressed when you interviewed those three young guys. Initially, it appeared they were just going to regurgitate the usual psychiatric spin about mental cases needing their drugs. But, when you answered their question about what you thought about psychiatry, I was very impressed with their common sense when they saw that people were really dealing with life problems that they needed to face and talk about rather than psychiatry giving them drugs to push their problems/issues down and/or interfere with people facing and solving them.

    So, though you’ve quit doing therapy, I was amazed at how you dealt with these young guys that seemed to bring out the best in them as they seriously and intelligently considered the issue and gave a great response!! That is also hopeful that the public is seeing through the BS of biopsychiatry making all of life a “mental illness!”

    So, I really appreciate this great film that also serves as an on the spot, up to the minute report about all the great people/survivors/advocates who attended the protest of the 2014 APA meeting in New York.

    Thank you again Daniel and all the wonderful survivors who made the great effort to attend this meeting and spread the word about the harm of psychiatric stigma, brain damaging drugging/ECT, oppression and ongoing and accelerating rights violations in a supposed democracy!

  • Hi Sandy,

    I am very pleased and encouraged by your hard efforts to write about and further explore helpful alternative treatments like the Hearing Voices Movement and the work shop you just hosted on this apparently very helpful method for voice hearers.

    I was also very hopeful and happy when you said that you were going to a workshop about therapy for “schizophrenia” by Dr. Bertram Karon. I had heard about Dr. Karon, but wasn’t all that familiar with his work, so I explored some web sites dealing with his work and was amazed with his work, his strategies, beliefs that schizophrenia is really about terror and traumatic lives and that neuroleptic drugs thwart recovery even in the 30% who would normally recover with no treatment! Of course, you and Bob Whitaker have reported on some of the important studies by Harrow and others that have shown that the more judicious, short term use of these drugs as much as possible for emergency use makes real recovery with a meaningful, productive life much more hopeful in many cases. As I’ve said, I have not experienced psychosis or what is called schizophrenia myself or in my family, but I’ve been pretty horrified to learn about the reality about this “sacred symbol” of biopsychiatry, which seems to be a hodgepodge of lots of different symptoms and issues that seem to be caused by toxic families and other trauma per Dr. Karon. Anyway, as John Donne says, “Never ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee…” or we’re all on this trip called life together in the same boat so to speak though some hide their fears, traumas and mistakes better than others or have less of them.

    I was very impressed with the following web site and video about Dr. Karon’s work and the study he cites that shows that the type of psychotherapy he offers has had an 80% recovery rate while the use of neuroleptics long term practically guarantees one will never recover.

    http://healingwithdrcraig.com/blog/schizophrenia-is-a-chronic-terror-syndrome-not-genetic-dr-bertram-karons-acceptance-speech-for-empathic-therapist-award/

    Although I realize you have posted about the hearing voices movement here, Dr. Karon speaks about incorporating such voice hearing, hallucinations, delusions and other symptoms that can be used to create a dialog about the meaning of these frightening experiences as is the case with the hearing voices movement. Dr. Karon warns that patients don’t like having such symptoms called delusion or hallucinations, but are willing to talk about them to find their meaning especially when asked about any voices they may hear.

    I would be very interested in any information you might provide about what you learned from the workshop/meeting about Dr. Karon’s work, your opinion about it and if you think it is something that could be incorporated where you work either here or in another blog.

    As MIA has found out, one can have thousands of people just reading and not necessarily commenting all the time, so I want you to know that though I and others may not always comment since one can get redundant at times about one’s pet peeves, we still follow, admire and applaud your great efforts to learn about new therapies, self help and other alternatives than the drugs that are proving to be less effective and more toxic than everyone was led to believe for all too long.

    I appreciate your your tenacity and bravery to continue to post/write here and elsewhere and especially like it when you stand up to the old boy network at 1boringoldman!! I have also appreciated your empathy and compassion when your realize that the anger you experience here is because many writing on this site have been deceived and hurt greatly from personal harm or harm done to family members.

  • Hi Leah,

    As usual, thanks so much for your great efforts on behalf of all those brainwashed and hoodwinked by what can only be rightly called the “mental death profession” professing nothing but lies. Your speech, post, arguments and citations are all excellent as usual. And I especially want to thank you for sharing with us about what went on at the APA meeting protest of 2014. I’d sure like to hear about anything else you saw, learned or heard there since such information by survivors who attended tends to be rare or I just don’t know where to find it. Any help with that by anyone would be appreciated.

    Despite the positive things you report such as Dr. Christopher Lane’s great article in Psychology Today about Dr. Thomas Insel debunking the DSM and other common sense promoted by Dr. Lane, I was disgusted to see the supposed response by the greatest pusher of the latest fad fraud bipolar epidemic in the world it seems: Nassir Ghaemi. He has argued with Dr. David Healy, Dr. Allen Frances, Dr. Joel Harris and countless other psychiatrists that despite tons of evidence that the bogus bipolar babble/mythology was invented to push the lastest lethal neuroleptics and epileptic drugs like Depakote with the bogus Big Pharma pretense of “mood stabilizers” based on a junk science theory as usual, Ghaemi insists otherwise despite many expert critics who say the opposite all too frequently at MIA and elsewhere. The fact that serial killers like Gary Sampson and rape, domestic violence victims alike are stigmatized with the deadly bipolar fad fraud stigma is no problem for the likes of Ghaemi. In fact, the military now makes it routine to stigmatize female rape victims bipolar to discredit, silence and punish them for speaking out and to rob them of all their civil rights, careers, earned benefits and basic humanity in general per many sources with even NOW and a forensic psychiatry web site expressing outrage at this gross violation of human/female rights. The fact that bipolar imperialism was invented to “fit” such a wide range of human “symptoms” like asking to be raped or some other crime makes no difference to the likes of Ghaemi. One psychiatrist on the great web site, Narcissism Sucks, admits that since character disorders weren’t covered for insurance, they were “fitted in” to categories like bipolar, which is why trauma/abuse/bullying victims and serial killers can both be stigmatized as bipolar!! However, he also admits that psychiatrists don’t like to deal with such nasty people with narcissism or psychopath anyway. So, they prey on the victims instead and stigmatize them with bipolar per Dr. Carol Warshaw, Psychiatrist and Domestic Violence Expert. Talk about fraud and evil!

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mood-swings/201305/nimh-requiem-dsm-and-its-critics

    Searching the internet, one finds that Ghaemi promotes every Big Pharma FRAUD claim to push the bogus bipolar on just about everyone on the planet because his whole career revolves around this horrific assault that Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist, calls one of the greatest medical crimes against humanity ever. Dr. Baughman exposes that all DSM stigmas are 100% fraud and anyone using them to “diagnose” anyone is committing malpractice and gross violation of patient rights.

    Ghaemi’s angry, very dishonest, reprehensible, insulting, outrageous response to Dr. Lane to vent his ire against anyone who would dare question his agenda that bipolar should be expanded ad infinitum to include so called borderline and many other categories of the DSM he claims to despise as “unscientific” except for his precious “bipolar” bread and butter at the cost of countless lives is very upsetting to me. Like Dr. Healy, Dr. Joanna Moncrieff has also exposed at MIA and elsewhere as in her new book, The Bitterest Pill, that the horrific bipolar epidemic today has very little to do with what used to be the very rare manic depressive illness from which most people recovered completely after one episode without drugs, but, of course, Ghaemi argues otherwise as usual. Robert Whitaker also exposed this mainly iatrogenic disaster in his great book, AOAE as have many medical experts. But, Ghaemi still argues it is greatly underdiagnosed because unlike most other experts and The Physician’s Desk Reference, Ghaemi believes that those who have iatrogenic reactions to the horrible SSRI’s, kiddie cocaine and other toxic psych drugs should be given the bipolar stigma and poisoned for life on the horrific lithium and whatever other brain damaging tortures he pushes as so called bipolar “treatment.” As Dr. Joanna Moncrieff points out in her great book, The Myth of the Chemical Cure, the so called therapeutic dose of very dangerous lithium is about the same as the lethal dose destroying kidneys and other vital organs in addition to the horrific chemical lobotomy it delivers like the plague to create a miserable, destroyed life with a horrible stigma identifying the victims as “seriously and persistently mentally ill,” the current targets of Tim Murphy and Fuller Torrey.

    And no surprise that Ghaemi is very supportive of not only Joseph Beiderman single handedly creating the child ADHD and bipolar deadly epidemics, but also Beiderman’s taking lots of drug company money to do so while promising positive studies in advance for Johnson & Johnson’s deadly neuroleptic drugs for children/toddlers before the studies were done as Senator Grassley exposed along with many other such arrogant KOL’s of biopsychiatry. We have those like Beiderman and Ghaemi to thank for deaths of toddlers like Rebecca Riley for pushing this latest horrific bipolar fad fraud with its associated lethal drug cocktails on such innocents along with the life destroying stigma labeling the victim as a dangerous mental patient for life subject to forced drugging and commitment and robbery of all human, civil, democratic rights based on the whims of those like Ghaemi in spite of his own obvious out of control rage against anyone who dares challenge his bipolar imperialism, which could also easily be labeled bipolar!

    You have to read Ghaemi’s article to believe it with his rage at the former editors and creators of DSM like Dr. Frances who at least expressed regret about the bipolar fad fraud epidemic he helped create along with others and argued against the further monstrous life destroying disease mongering and bipolar epidemic for typical life crises and problems via DSM 5 since very toxic drugs are prescribed for this fake disorder.

    What is really appalling and hypocritical is that Ghaemi accuses these “old men” and people like us of being against real science while he promotes the absolute LIE that bipolar disorder is totally proven to have lots of genetic causes per his outrageous response to Dr. Lane!! Dr. Jay Joseph has written articles at MIA and books like The Missing Gene and The Gene Illusion proving that such claims that DSM voted in stigmas including bipolar are genetic are 100% fraud with no evidence whatever. MIA has also posted several articles by and about the most famous and qualified experts in genetics and they have admitted that no genes have been found for any so called mental illness and especially the fad fraud bipolar created specifically to push certain lethal drugs on patent as Dr. David Healy exposes in his excellent book, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder. Dr. Healy has also written great articles about bipolar babble and mythology that resulted from the “partnership” of biopsychiatry and Big Pharma which has resulted in more attacks and angry denials by the king of bipolar, Nassir Ghaemi!

    As you can see from his angry reply to Dr. Lane, Ghaemi is champing at the bit for those old, more conservative DSM guys to retire since they dared criticize more bipolar expansion in the DSM 5 despite the fact that studies by Dr. Mark Zimmer of Brown University showed that there is rampant overdiagnosis of the fraud fad bipolar due to such proponents like Ghaemi. In fact, Dr. Joel Paris, who deals with the insult stigma of borderline personality disorder for women who have been abused and traumatized (exposed by trauma expert, Dr. Judith Herman, in her classic work, Trauma and Recovery) has complained about Ghaemi’s “bipolar imperialism” because he is trying to devour borderline, anxiety, depression, iatrogenic drug reactions, drug abuse, trauma and many others for his bipolar fad fraud agenda. He has even written a book on famous people whereby he goes back in history to insult and stigmatize certain unfortunates as bipolar despite the fact they didn’t request Ghaemi’s opinion and fared very well without such horrific “treatment”; Ghaemi can’t resist defaming even the famous like Abraham Lincoln and others with his bipolar imperialism with the pretense it is a compliment that the great people of history were “mentally ill.” I have my own “diagnosis” for Ghaemi, but I will be kind enough not to make it public since one should not share such “medical” information without permission or unless the Murphy bill passes.

    Anyway, I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but as you can see from his article, Ghaemi is champing at the bit to replace those like Dr. Frances whom he sees as much too conservative and “unscientific” for trying to put a reign on the bipolar fraud fad nightmare. He is also in a rage against those like us he believes are anti-science and applauds Dr. Insel’s bogus claim that all mental disorders are brain diseases and other typical pseudoscience ideology the NIMH promotes. The purpose of biopsychiatry ideology has always been to cater to the 1% to prey on the rest of society with impunity while blaming their victims for the gross inequality and human slavery they have inflicted while justifying their entitlements and profiting from the suffering they inflict twice from their original injustice/oppression and then their lethal psych drugs and degradation rituals via the DSM in the guise of medicine and so called science to cull the population for easier control and fascism. These are the same old eugenics of the old robber barons that resulted in the Nazi Holocaust and are now causing rampant suffering and death globally along with destruction of the planet thanks to these psychopaths in power per the great book and web site, Political Ponerology, and the work of psychopathy world expert, Dr. Robert Hare, author of Without Conscience and Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work. Dr. John Clark, another psychopathy expert, has written the great book, Working With Monsters, with the title giving an honest picture of the horrendous suffering psychopaths inflict in the work place and world at large.

    So, I hate to be a killjoy, but Ghaemi has made himself the king and spokesman for the bogus bipolar fad fraud from which he makes a lucrative living selling text books, popular works and “educating” one and all about so called bipolar as a professor with every Big Pharma ploy a la Mitch Daniels, Big Pharma CEO; per Dr. David Healy, (always blame the victim’s so called mental illness for any horrible drug reactions, mistakes, fraud, incompetence, hidden drug study deaths and deadly reactions, etc.). He is obviously champing at the bit to replace the old supposed conservative guard of biopsychiatry, so I would say if Ghaemi represents the next generation of biopsychiatrists, the recovery movement working to change the current pernicious deadly robber baron regime of the mental death profession’s current eugenics agenda they promoted in the 1930’s with Rockefeller and others certainly has a David versus Goliath fight on its hands.

    The fact that Ghaemi can claim that the bogus bipolar has tons of evidence it is genetic is so outrageous, dishonest, horrific and unethical, I shudder to think what things will be like when this so called “scientific” generation takes the reigns of biopsychiatry.

    There have been a ton of books written in recent times about The Narcissism Epidemic, The Culture Of Narcissism, The Wizard of Oz and Other Narcissists, Working With The Self Absorbed, Why Is It Always About You, The Narcissist in Your Life and countless others that expose that this plague on humanity along with psychopathy/sociopathy has made our world very unsafe indeed. Sadly, narcissists are unable to see or admit that they have this character disorder that greatly endangers those around them. No surprise that the DSM 5 committee wanted to remove this diagnosis, but there was too much of an uproar, so they kept it in.

    Anyway, I thank you again Leah for your usual hard efforts on everyone’s behalf, but due to the likes of Ghaemi, I think it is a bit premature to celebrate and we need to watch the new breed of biopsychiatrists very closely indeed if we or anyone hopes to survive the current and future plagues created by this pseudoscience “profession.”

  • Irishwolf,

    Lewd, gross language is not necessary to prove your point!

    I don’t think CEP was claiming their calls for people harmed by biopsychiatry and its toxic drugs was evidence based necessarily, but rather, given tons of evidence based studies and patient outcomes by those like Robert Whitaker, Dr. Sandy Steingard, Dr. Joanna Moncrieff, Dr. James Davis, Dr. Peter Breggin, Dr. David Healy, Dr. Peter C. Gotzsche, Dr. Timothy Scott, Dr. Grace Jackson, Dr. Fred Baughman and many, many others at MIA and elsewhere cite exposing the fraud of most studies done by most of mainstream biopsychiatry/Big Pharma, this group is trying to promote the glaring need for people to wake up and be aware of the evidence that toxic psychiatry with its invalid, life destroying bogus stigmas to push the latest lethal drugs on patent can be very hazardous to one’s health and destroy one’s life literally in all too many ways. Both Dr. Davis and Dr. Gotzsche cite plenty of evidence in their books reviewed on MIA: Cracked and Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime respectively available at Amazon.

  • Irishwolf,

    Have no fear! The biopsychiatry/Big Pharma Mafioso cartel has produced enough corrupt “science” or pseudoscience to falsely push their toxic drugs on a brainwashed, clueless public including doctors that are either duped or complicit that the evils of organized crime pale in comparison compared to this deadly enterprise of biopsychiatry.

    Here is one recent self serving post with the bogus claim that toxic psych drugs for fraudulent, voted in, invalid DSM life destroying stigmas “are just as effective” as those in mainstream (or real) medicine:

    http://real-psychiatry.blogspot.com/2012/02/critical-article-on-efficacy-of.html

    Real mature to justify one’s own psychiatric fraud and dangerous, murderous agenda/forced drugging, ECT and other chemical/electrical, surgical lobotomies with the “everybody’s doing it” excuse. And biopsychiatry fails to acknowledge that real medicine at least refers to something real that can be proven with evidence and tests confirmed with a second opinion unlike pseudoscientific biopschiatry in bed with Big Pharma to vote in bogus “mental illnesses” to push the latest lethal, brain damaging drugs on patent that do much more harm than good as exposed here and per many victims. Most important, regular medicine can’t force their treatments on their so called patients by law while biopsychiatry colludes with and buys out corrupt government hacks and maintains a revolving door of Big Pharma hacks in the FDA and other key government/Big Pharma lucrative positions and payola to create the “therapeutic state” so their deadly, unwanted, fascist torture treatments can be forced on one and all from cradle to grave.

    Just the posts below the above article expose how corrupt and deadly psychiatry became after selling out to Big Pharma while inventing bogus, life destroying stigmas like bipolar to push lethal new neuroleptic and epileptic drugs on patent that made billions for these criminals while knowingly murdering countless people with millions of destroyed lives. This monstrosity is well described in Dr. David Healy’s great book, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder. Dr. Joanna Moncrieff has written several excellent articles on MIA about the bipolar fad fraud while Bob Whitaker and many experts expose that most if not all so called bipolar is caused by the iatrogenic harm of drugs touted for the bogus depression and ADHD invented “diseases” to cover up and lie/deny typical social/environmental stressors that the wealthy, greedy minority in power prefer to cover up by using biopsychiatry to blame, stigmatize, silence, invalidate, ostracize and destroy their victims rather than acknowledging and addressing the real social problems of inequality, poverty, racism, sexism and other evils.

    I don’t think you need to worry if this organization collects cases of harm done by this evil biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel since their lies, bogus advertising, ghost written journal articles, junk science studies with all dangerous effects hidden or omitted, intimidation of patients, doctors and/or anyone who challenges them, their using their ill gotten billions to buy out politicians to force these poison psych drugs like neuroleptics on everyone on the planet especially for the latest fad fraud bipolar disorder on children and toddlers no less with many dying or seriously disabled as a result and their many other medical crimes against humanity detailed by Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist.

    Anyway, I am very grateful to have the voices of the very caring, ethical people/experts in the just launched Council for Evidence Based Psychiatry since they have the credentials and ethics to speak truth to power and on behalf of all those defamed and discredited by the mental death profession who are dismissed or gas lighted as “crazy” and accused of failing to see their fake mental illness to prove they are crazy reminding one of Joseph Heller’s excellent book on crazy making, Catch 22. I also recommend the great movie, Gaslight, with Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman to see how psychopaths/malignant narcissists drive their victims crazy for their own greed and self serving purposes.

    Again, I am very grateful and full of admiration for Dr. James Davis and his equally highly qualified, concerned, ethical colleagues/members of the newly launched CEP. They’ve already done a great job of getting their honest, truthful message out to compete with decades of lies, fraud and destruction perpetrated by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma/Government cartel fascist therapeutic state.

  • I just checked out the link and read Ayer’s story. It makes me sad that he didn’t find or have a way to connect with the Hearing Voices Movement that has even impressed Dr. Sandy Steingard at MIA with their amazing results and mutual support for each other. I certainly can see why Ayers would want to avoid the so called mental health system like the plague it is given that he will be forced on deadly neuroleptics that will make him far worse off in the long run. It appears he could use some anger management skills too. Lopez did provide some good support by getting him in a housing first program, but it appears to come with the usual AOT strings that cause those like Ayers to rightly want to avoid them when it comes to forced drugging. It seems to me he could be helped with nondrug supports. I’m disappointed in the judge here boasting about her change from being against forced drugging in the past while being for it now; most people don’t go on such a downward spiral in knowledge and evidence without being brainwashed and conned by those with less than noble motives. People like this judge need to be educated about the information Bob Whitaker provides to make adequate, impartial decisions.

    Finally, there is always short term stabilization even in a jail if necessary if somebody is breaking the law or needs protection while hopefully coming to one’s senses.

  • Sadly, the so called experts in this case seem to be unaware of recent scientific knowledge from valid studies showing that neuroleptics are not the great magic bullets for psychosis or so called schizophrenia or bipolar that the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel has claimed:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/08/antipsychotics-and-patient-choice-in-the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/

    Here, Robert Whitaker sums up the evidence based on the best studies that long term use of neuroleptics for all the above patients cannot be justified as a standard of care given the obvious harm from this paradigm. And Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH, acknowledged Bob’s conclusions by practically quoting him and Dr. Steingaard not too long after Bob wrote this post.

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/03/fat-lady-sung/

    Thus, despite psychiatry’s claim of being evidence based, they only push the drug company sponsored manipulated evidence helped by KOL’s of the field to “prove” their standard of care is justified based on many conflicts of interest including guild and Big Pharma ones per Bob Whitaker.

    Unfortunately, we don’t have enough Jim Gottstein’s going around serving as real lawyers on behalf of those abused and conned by so called mental health courts, which are well known to be kangaroo courts with the victim’s fate decided long before he/she goes to court since judges, lawyers and psychiatrsists collude to rob their so called patients of all their human, civil, democratic rights in the guise of their best interests with forced treatment and commitment indefinitely. Jim made some major progress in some cases in Alaska he won when aided by Dr. Grace Jackson to show that a so called mental patient’s decision to reject toxic brain/body damaging drugs causing dementia and early death by 25 years on average can be a very wise choice indeed.

  • In my opinion, ISEPP offers a much better standard and paradigm of care that avoids dangerous, brain damaging psychiatric treatments like neuroleptics, ECT, etc.:

    http://www.psychintegrity.org/

    ISEPP also gives an excellent statement on: The Connection Between Psychotropic Drugs and Mass Murder, which E. Fuller Torrey and cohorts like Tim Murphy, our government and most of biopsychiatry/Big Pharma refuse to acknowledge though psychiatry’s dangerous drugs are most heavily associated with violence.

    http://www.psychintegrity.org/isepp_statement_on_the_connection_between_psychotropic_drugs_and_mass_murder.php

    Dr. Grace Jackson, a noted psychiatrist and author of the excellent books, Rethinking Psychiatry and Drug Induced Dementia: The Perfect Crime has devoted herself to informing people about the toxic effects on the brain and body from psychiatric drugs with special emphasis on the most toxic neuroleptics Fuller Torrey and his cronies are pushing with the AOT fascism. She provides an excellent but very depressing overview of the brain damage/dementia that all too frequently results from such toxic psychiatric drugs while ending with ways one might repair the damage in the following slide presentation:

    http://www.psychintegrity.org/gracejacksonmdlecture.php

    Bob Whitaker at ISEPP 2013 on psychiatry’s cognitive dissonance about the lack of long term efficacy of their toxic drugs due to guild and Big Pharma conflicts of interest that could be viewed as their own anosognosia about their life destroying profession and their own seeming stubborn blindness about it to serve their own interests at the horrific expense of those they supposedly treat.

    http://iseppinfo.wordpress.com/2013/09/19/isepp-2013-psychiatrys-cognitive-dissonance-with-author-robert-whitaker/

    I will end this post by joining Bob Whitaker’s frustrated plea:

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/10/dear-dr-torrey-please-stop-the-lies/

    This is a great post with many great comments.

  • Although I realize I can tend to get very upset about the bipolar fad fraud due to personal and horrible experience with loved ones I was able to save and seem to over react at times, the following interview of Bob Whitaker by Bruce Levine about Anatomy of an Epidemic shows that neither Bob nor Bruce pull any punches about the huge harm done by biopsychiatry selling out to Big Pharma that led them to create and vote in bogus DSM stigmas used to push the latest toxic drugs on patent. Bob speaks of the tragedy of iatrogenic harm from so called ADHD and depression drugs like Ritalin and SSRI’s creating the tragedy of mania and other symptoms resulting in bogus bipolar stigmas resulting in huge numbers of children destroyed for life along with many adults subjected to the same abuses that derail their lives.

    Bob does put it pretty kindly by attributing this horrific iatrogenic nightmare by the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel as psychiatry’s “delusions.” So, who is really in most need of their so called treatments since their delusions or psychosis from which they greatly profit create a clear danger to others if not themselves?

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/04/28/the-astonishing-rise-of-mental-illness-in-america/

  • Kermit,

    Just in case I wasn’t clear, my comment was certainly not a criticism of the posting of the article, Bob Whitaker or the web site by any means though we might not see things exactly the same way as unique individuals. In fact, in my comment, I pointed out that fortunately MIA had recently posted some excellent critiques of bipolar expansionism and imperialism by Dr. Joanna Moncrieff and other great articles in the past and recent past. I referred to Dr. Moncrieff’s recent articles on MIA to refresh my memory of Dr. Healy’s book, Mania, and his many articles on bipolar babble she cites in my frustration with the above article. MIA has posted many critiques of DSM stigmas including Dr. Insel’s Tranforming Diagnosis article on his blog whereby he admits their lack of validity and many other critiques from Lucy Johnstone to Allen Frances from which I’ve learned a great deal. So, I think MIA has done a very good job of posting all sides and I am sure it is no secret that I like many others find the bipolar epidemic especially vile with its nefarious goal of pushing toxic neuroleptics and other lethal drugs on just about everyone on the planet with the latest child/toddler epidemic the most pernicious as most people with a conscience agree that MIA has covered too.

    Anyway, my point is that I think the article is one of many that attempts to do a good thing by pointing out that those with supposed mental illnesses and their symptoms don’t play a great role in perpetrating crime. It was only when I saw the unusually large number of 10% attributed to so called bipolars committing crimes, part of the supposed “seriously and persistently mentally ill” targeted by the likes of Fuller Torrey and Tim Murphy, that the article was rendered meaningless to ME at least while also being a clear and present danger when read/used by the uninformed or those with rights violating agendas at the same time in my opinion. What the heck does that 10% mean given that anyone in the population with completely opposite symptoms, behaviors and environments can be slapped with a bipolar label from a serial killer to a domestic violence or rape victim or those with vague unhappiness that Dr. Moncrieff makes clear do not have anything close to so called DSM bipolar to fuel this gross bipolar epidemic? I was simply pointing out that this rendered that statement on mental illness criminality in this article totally irrelevant to me at least since it was only exposing the huge number of people increasingly being falsely accused of being bipolar or brainwashed to believe they have it, which for many unfamiliar with the truth like MIA members also means they are more apt to be perceived as dangerous, criminal and other nasty things, which plays into the whole forced treatment agenda.

    I understand Bob Whitaker’s position and he has written about his belief that many so called bipolar cases have been iatrogenic from SSRI’s among other things. His book, AOAE, like Dr. Moncrieff also pointed out that before the onslaught of these toxic drugs, people with the very rare illness of so called manic depression tended to have an episode and completely recover to go on and live normal lives unlike today with current treatment often causing permanent disability and a derailed life for the most part. In contrast to this, Bob has been a major force exposing the lethal effects of long term use of neuroleptics with many studies and MIA published the amazing admission by Dr. Thomas Insel that pretty much quoted Bob’s work when he admitted that neuroleptics lacked efficacy for many people and for many people the potential harm of these drugs may not be justified and even detract from recovery given recent studies. So, I think Bob deserves tons of credit even if we may not agree on all terminology and ideas, so I am not inclined to quibble with those like you and Bob who seem to have very good intentions in my opinion and are a very positive rather than negative force in this area. I like others fear the AOT fear mongering crowd that can take such negative statistics about large numbers of supposed bipolars committing more crimes for their dishonest, fascist agendas.

    Anyway, thanks for your comment Kermit. I guess I was initially excited about this article at first, but was greatly disappointed when I saw the bogus DSM stigmas and the huge bipolar percentage claimed for crime when all it tells us in the know is that there is a bipolar epidemic that can now include anyone and everyone on the planet making it pretty irrelevant to me and others aware of this fraud in my opinion, but unfortunately, not others pushing forced toxic treatments for it and robbery of all the more human/civil rights for what has been proven to be lacking the so called benefits claimed while doing much more harm like most psychiatric “treatments.”

    I certainly learn a great deal from you and everyone else on this web site for which I am very grateful and I’m sure other MIA members feel the same way. You do a great job keeping up with the massive amount of diverse issues and the glut of information on that massive topic of “mental health/psychiatry/Big Pharma, etc. And I thank you for that!

  • I saw and almost sent the above article by Peterson et al in Law and Human Behavior, but after reading the beginning and seeing it bases its survey and conclusion on bogus DSM disorders with special emphasis on the latest fraud fad stigma of bipolar supposedly associated with the most crime at 10%, I decided that given the rampant overdiagnosis of bogus bipolar, the article is just as bogus and meaningless. But, it does pander to this bipolar fad fraud, so I preferred not to support it in any way. This is especially true now that even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of NIMH, has admitted what anyone doing a shred of research has known for decades, that DSM stigmas voted into the junk science DSM created for psychiatry to prostitute itself to Big Pharma in the 1980’s to push the latest lethal drugs on patent no matter how much harm done to so called patients or rather their many victims are totally invalid because they lack any scientific, medical, biological, genetic, chemical or any other evidence to prove they exist, which they do not.

    So, therefore, though I find it a positive that some effort is made in these articles to admit that those stigmatized with bogus DSM labels aren’t responsible for most violence, I find it revolting that the evidence of the bipolar fad fraud far outpacing even schizophrenia for supposed serious mental illness in this junk science article certainly exposes the horrific, self serving bipolar epidemic biopyschiatry created to pander to Big Pharma to push the lethal neuroleptics and the lethal bogus “mood stabilizers” based on their usual junk science “theories” proven false per usual on a vast majority of citizens causing huge harm rather than the small minority that were quite psychotic in the past that might warrant such drugs including benzodiazopenes for a short time to stabilize someone so other alternatives could be considered so that they could make a full recovery.

    Fortunately, this web site has had several excellent articles by Dr. Joanna Moncrieff recently exposing the absurdity of taking what used to be the very rare manic depressive illness from which most people recovered (also covered by Bob Whitaker’s books) and converting it into the recent bipolar epidemic of pretending normal ups and downs or good and bad days or even life crises and traumatic events like domestic violence constitute a severe mental illness of bipolar. Dr. David Healy also exposes this monstrosity in his great book, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder, whereby he tracks each of the fad fraud epidemics the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel created to push anxiety (benzos), depression (SSRI’s) and bipolar (neuroleptics and so called mood stabilizers like Depakote never shown to be helpful in the least for life’s ups and downs). Astute observes have noted that due to the horrific iatrongenic effects of benzos and SSRI’s, it was a literal “no brainer” to push the toxic brain damaging (no brainer) neuroleptics to hide the toxic effects of the original drugs. And the same criminals realized they could make a literal killing from the diabetes, heart disease, high cholesterol, eye damage and other murderous effects for drugs to treat those chronic illnesses from their psych drugs as well. It’s a gift that keeps on giving to the Biopsychiatry/Medical/Big Pharma/Corrupt Government Hacks cartel at the cost of millions of destroyed lives.

    Again, this article does expose the consequences and evidence of the latest bipolar fad fraud with that large 10% of bipolars supposedly contributing to the most crime. No surprise when the mental death profession labels serial killer Gary Sampson and rape victims alike as bipolar as admitted on Dr. Mark Ragins blog on MIA showing that this stigma has no meaning or any real world connection whatsoever.

    As far as I am concerned any articles about bogus DSM stigmas are junk science and just as fraudulent as the DSM and the toxic, useless drugs it was designed to push that made billions for the biopsychiatry/Big Pharma cartel while destroying countless lives including those of children, toddlers and even babies is utero no less as the latest victims or prey. These psychopaths and/or malignant narcissists acting as intraspecies predators via biopsychiatry and other pernicious global corporations are the real dangerous criminals Congress should address, but they won’t since they have been bought and sold by them to create an oligarchy of crony capitalism as has recently been exposed by many experts.

    Physicians and Congress, heal thyself first before pointing the finger at others for the crimes you commit against one and all with impunity.

  • Madmom.

    The problem is that the vile “Mother’s Act” was an evil Big Pharma ploy to find new markets for SSRI’s that have been shown to be almost no better than placebo with a host of nasty effects including the ones described by Dr. Healy here. And worse, many treacherous women served as Big Pharma hacks to push for this horrible law to get all new mothers screened for this bogus depression, bipolar and other bogus illnesses that would only get them a stigma for life and toxic drugs that might lead them to even kill their children with Andrea Yates serving as the poster child.

    The so called depression and bipolar mood disorder “illnesses” were nothing but biopsychiatry/Big Pharma marketing inventions/ploys to push the latest lethal SSRI’s on patent when they came out after the prior big push for anxiety drugs before that for the same purpose. See Dr. David Healy’s great book, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder, that exposes this vile fraud and predation on mostly women as usual that makes their lives much worse in the short and long run. Also, See Dr. Joanna Moncrieff’s article on MIA just posted that laments about so many people being hooked on so called “happy pills” that are not only useless, but destroy people’s confidence in themselves to cope with typical life challenges. The problem with your post is that like any DSM stigmas, they can lead to self fulfilling prophecies due to the brain washing of supposed doctors who are really wolves in sheep’s clothing.

  • Kate,

    And by the way, you have the right to “believe” what you like, but there is not a shred of evidence that any bogus stigma voted into the DSM has anything to do with any biology, chemical imbalance or disease/disorder of the brain whatsoever. Even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the National Institute for Mental Health, has admitted that the DSM is pseudoscience that he is abandoning because it has no validity whatever in that there is no scientific, medical, biological, genetic, chemical imbalance or any other evidence whatsoever behind these bogus, invented stigmas in the DSM also known as the Book of Insults or Degradation Rituals. Rather, the majority of honest information points to toxic environements and relationships, abuse and other great social stressors as the real cause of such emotional distress if there are no real medical, diet or other causes involved. Such facts also expose NAMI and others of their ilk as spreading lies, bogus pseudoscience, disease mongering and other nasty tactics to profit at others’ expense and/or blame their victims with this no fault assurance since they like CHADD and other groups are astro turf groups for Big Pharma in the guise of helping so called loved ones.

    So, perhaps you may wish to re-examine your need to claim your daughter has a biological brain disease or disorder that has no evidence whatever to back it up. Again, believing this yourself is one thing though very unfortunate for your daughter, but your politicking to force this monstrosity on everyone’s children and other loved ones while rubbing their noses in your great victory is pretty hard to stomach.

  • Whoopsie,

    You make all too much sense and far more than many people here. I’m sorry about all those lost years that were stolen from you by the traitor who reported you that suckered you into the clutches of biopsychiatry. Like Dante’s Inferno, all psychiatric entities should be forced to have signs, “Abandon all hope ye who enter here” just like their toxic drugs and other deadly “treatments” must carry warnings too.

    Congratulations for seeing the truth and kicking those lethal, lobotomizing drugs to the curb where they belong.

  • Kate,

    What you also fail to realize is the gross and fraudulent expansion of psychiatric diagnosis for increased greed, fraud and power to prey on normal people with crises to enhance the status status of biopsychiaty when it sold out to Big Pharma to APPEAR more medical when Freudian psychoanalysis waned. Therefore, many people were/are given bogus bipolar stigmas when suffering from domestic, work, school and community bullying, mobbing and violence or various forms of rape and then subjected to the exact treatments you advocate for your daughter when they were never psychotic, delusional or anything else they have suffered based on false accusations, lies, gas lighting and psychological violence from biopsychiatry colluding with their other more powerful abusers. This is the typical type of horrific betrayal pulled off by biopsychiatrists to shut people up, stigmatize/discredit/silence/ostracize and drug them with maximum efficiency just like the Nazi death camps choosing those who would die or be slaves to the system.

    Your claim that you fought against “us” to get such horrific
    treatments imposed that destroy countless lives while fighting to eliminate those that have actually helped people makes me very sad about your apparent bitterness, revenge and anger toward your daughter and others who have suffered from severe emotional distress, trauma and other crises based on their toxic environments and horrific social stressors.

    And you should be aware that before biopsychiatry, if a child/teen was brought into treatment the psychiatrist would call the child/teen the “identified patient” because they knew that the child was most likely acting out the family’s dysfunction and serving as the scapegoat to keep the toxic system going with the rest in total denial. Perhaps you should check out Rosa Forbes’ writings on this site in dealing with her “psychotic son” and realizing that the ways families communicate and interact can have negative consequences for one or all members, but most likely the one(s) with the least power, usually the children.

    Some time in the future, this latest vile barbarity of bogus stigmas from the junk science DSM to push the latest lethal drugs on patent perpetrated by biopsychiatry like their vicious eugenics agenda in the name of so called science and medicine that led to the gassing to death of the so called mentally ill as practice for the Nazi Holocaust will just be more proof of the fact that biopsychiatry has been mainly controlled by psychopaths and malignant narcissists who have no shame, conscience, empathy, remorse or compassion for their fellow humans, but function mainly as intraspecies predators instead.

    I hope you will reconsider your ill conceived agenda to force YOUR views of the best so called treatments for severe emotional distress and/or those falsely accused of being “mentally ill” by their abusers on one and all as does NAMI with lots of Big Pharma money.

  • Kate,

    You have said your idea of “wellness” for you daughter means that the many, many life threatening and horrific effects of these toxic drugs that only serve as heavy tranquillizers or chemical straight jackets are okay with you as long as she gets this so called treatment to control her “symptoms.”

    If you read experts on this web site like Dr. Joanna Moncrieff, Dr. Sandy Steingard and many others, and even Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the NIMH, long term use of psychiatric drugs like neuroleptics I would assume your daughter is on makes the original problems far, far worse and eventually cause great disability and early death by about 25 years on average.

    So, your insistence on only considering the n0w debunked medical model of biopsychiatry thanks to drug company front groups like NAMI and our “therapeutic state” so corrupt politicians can profit from Big Pharma billions while enhancing fascist social control for our military/industrial complex comes at huge cost to your daughter. Eventually, you may come to regret it yourself as the truth is increasingly being more widely exposed to the point one would have to wear blinders not to see or hear it. It’s actually becoming even mainstream to admit the horrors of psychiatry’s overdiagnosing, fraud, bogus studies and ghost written articles for medical journals, payouts from Big Pharma to doctors and academics, toxic drugs and other perils of coming in contact with this dangerous entity.

  • Kate,

    If your read books by Dr. Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist, like Toxic Psychiatry and Your Drug May Be Your Problem, 2nd ed. (see his web sites too) and many, many others in addition to Robert Whitaker’s Mad In America and Anatomy of an Epidemic, you would learn that the life destroying stigmas and toxic drugs of psychiatry often cause the very symptoms they pretend to treat with even more lethal cocktails of drugs and/or make any life crisis, problem, trauma way worse than it would have been if not “treated” by psychiatry as you can see from the many stories of other victims of the system.

    I don’t doubt that you and your daughter have been brainwashed that psychiatry saved her “life, ” but what kind of a life has she really had or will she continue to have as a drugged zombie under the nefarious control of biopsychiatry in bed with Big Pharma for their own profits and self serving agenda to pretend to be real doctors practicing real medicine?

  • As I read this article, I kept waiting for the punch line or some type of April Fool’s surprise and/or wondering if I was really reading an Onion article.

    Then, I went to the supposed science article behind it and concluded that the above assumptions still hold even if they didn’t state that in the article or backup.

    What a bunch of asses!! And I would assume that both the anosognosia and over optimism about not getting ill refer mainly/only to bogus DSM stigmas or pretend illnesses as voted in by the APA. So, who really has anosognosia or over optimism about not seeing their real illness of being complete asses especially considering the so called treatments proposed and the proposal to make this a new mental illness? See Robert Sutton’s The No Asshole Rule before censoring my post since I’m being more polite than the college professor who wrote this insightful book about you know whats!!

  • Hi Iden,

    Thank you for your heartfelt article on the need for more caring communities. I think you nailed one of the greatest problems of being homeless is one of the greatest challenges and causes of mental and emotional distress that requires housing and not more bogus psychiatric stigmas and toxic drugging.

    I had been very impressed when I read about “housing first” initiatives that wisely recognized that focusing on so called health care of any kind was futile and even hypocritical as long at the clients lacked basic housing.

    http://www.hchmd.org/housingfirst.shtml

    http://usich.gov/usich_resources/fact_sheets/opening_doors_chronic_homelessness/

    I googled this topic and found several with the above two examples. One thing many providers have realized is that people refuse housing and services if forced psychiatric treatment and drugging are part of the so called bargain (with the devil in my opinion). Thus, in some cases they have been backing off on the type of AOT draconian measures being proposed now and focusing more on getting people into housing that often vastly improves their mental health, which comes as no great surprise as I’ve noted elsewhere on other recent MIA posts.

    You say that you and others got so called mental health services when homeless while help with getting housing was never part of the so called “treatment.” I find it disgusting to know that billions are wasted on a failed DSM biopsychiatry paradigm that pushes lethal drugs that are mostly useless and cause all the more problems while basic needs of such people in crisis are ignored for the most part.

    Are you aware of any recent initiatives that use such common sense that anyone would be in great emotional distress and trauma when forced to deal with homelessness, poverty and other life threatening issues on a regular basis. In my opinion, this should be the first priority.

  • I was initially enthused about this article since I figured it would validate reasons for Dr. Claudia Gold’s and others’ shock over the ever growing percentage of children getting the autism label.

    Unfortunately, as I read along, though the author admitted there are no tests or evidence for autism, since he could not cite a valid reason for the explosion of autism diagnosing, he quickly proceeded to the usual science fiction of biopsychiatry about the so called genes or other brain disease evidence that is just around the corner as this pseudoscience field has been claiming for decades about all their voted in, invented DSM stigmas created to push the latest lethal drugs on patent.

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/br-pibp.htm

    I think the huge increases of ADHD and autism stigmas are a result of the fallout from the child bipolar fad fraud that got so much negative attention, so they have to use other more “accepted” stigmas to continue to push their lethal neuroleptic and other toxic, brain damaging drugs on children for any minute misbehavior that will allow them to stigmatize and drug more children to continue the Big Pharma billions of profits at the expense of their millions of victims. Of course, the schools and parents are complicit because the more children stigmatized, the more special education funds are granted to schools, teachers find it easier to deal with drugged zombies and parents can get special services for their children with these bogus stigmas. The only real loser in all of this is the child of course with a life destroying stigma and toxic drugs quite likely to disable them for life.

  • Sorry, but bogus studies supposedly proving bad diets with lots of sugar and refined carbs don’t cause behavioral and other acting out issues with children are total bunk. Any parent knows that this is garbage and will come to see that feeding her kids a lot of sugar and similar foods can make their children act like they are on speed. There have been many experts recommending diets for children that can alleviate these issues.

    I agree with you about some of the other issues contributing to these bogus child stigmas to scapegoat children so the psychopaths in power can continue to profit from their original suffering and trauma and the retraumatization these vampires inflict to push their evil, lucrative, fascist agenda.

    This latest ploy to push ADHD drugs with the usual drug company shills making no secret about it is totally disgusting and vile.

    Also, now that the child bipolar fad fraud has been exposed, the victims must be redistributed to the other predatory child stigmas like autism, ADHD, conduct disorder and the rest to scapegoat and destroy children’s lives with these horrible stigmas and brain/body damaging drugs. If they reduce adult lives by 25 years on average, just think what they are doing to children. Further, it doesn’t really matter what bogus stigma kids get given that neuroleptic poisons will most likely be forced on most if not all.

  • Tina,

    Once again, thank you so much for all of your hard work devoted to this very important cause on everyone’s behalf. The fact that you are a lawyer makes you all the more valuable in interpreting all these issues with most having legal ramifications.

    I also greatly appreciate your keeping us informed of all the great progress you and your like minded associates have made in enlightening the world and pushing for human rights among those targeted and scapegoated by narcissistic cultures. When all is said and done, it all comes down to power and the corruption of it by those who want all the power to disempower others for their own sick, sadistic, narcissistic needs/agenda.

  • Another great article debunking AA as the cure all for addiction:

    http://www.alternet.org/books/pseudoscience-aa-and-rehab?page=0%2C2&akid=11711.280646.md1aeA&rd=1&src=newsletter980746&t=5

    Copy Cat,

    You make some very good points, but the fact that AA has been FORCED on many people for whom it would not/did not work by employers, families, the legal system and the mental death profession is what has probably done more to make the program ineffective and distasteful to many than anything. I think AA can be especially deadly for many women and youth because of their insistence on shaming and blaming the victims of abuse and trauma that often causes them to try to self medicate. AA acts just like the mental death profession in many ways whereby it refuses to recognize any issues that may “drive somebody to drink” as good old folk wisdom knows can be done quite easily. Thus, claiming the victims are “blaming” when trying to confront their abusers instead of taking responsibility for their need to quit drinking/drugging and admit to their alcoholic/drug addicted personality and other genetic/evil flaws allows malignant narcissists/psychopaths to continue to gas light and destroy their victims with impunity just like the entire mental death system does with all their scapegoating stigmas so these two old boy network industries work very well in sync when hijacked for biopsychiatry’s/Big Pharma’s evil agenda.

    I have confirmed what you say about the mental death profession stigmatizing people with bogus disorders, mainly the latest fraud fad of bipolar, for those with alcohol/substance abuse issues as they refuse to acknowledge and social/environmental causes per usual. Dr. Jill Littrell on this web site said she was shocked to see so many of her students given bipolar labels due to alcohol issues. I have also read that hospitals and rehabs require a DSM life destroying stigma like bipolar to access their bogus, destructive addiction demolition enterprise. This is disgusting vile fraud because it’s well know that even the DSM has always warned NOT to label people with bipolar and others if they had substance abuse issues that had many of the same symptoms as does abuse related trauma. It’s very obvious to me now that the Big Pharma biopsychiatry shills creating DSM deliberately created the bogus bipolar stigma to prey on abuse, trauma and other victims to scapegoat, silence and discredit them so the usual misogynist narcissists could profit from the huge misery and loss they always inflict on those around them with impunity while refusing to acknowledge it

    The mental death profession hijacked the AA/rehab movement not because it worked or helped anyone, but because it was very profitable just like the horrific biologism they adopted for their own maximum greed and profit no matter how much harm and loss they inflicted on their millions of victims from cradle to grave literally.

    What upsets me the most is that the mental death profession has created the same nasty smear campaigns, scapegoating and stigma among those with even fairly mild addiction issues just as they have with their bogus DSM life destroying book of insults. And now we know that Big Pharma like the tobacco and food industries have done all in their life destroying power to work hard in their labs to create the most addictive substances possible no matter how much harm and death it causes to their “consumers.”

    Anyway, there is plenty of blame to go around, but I think those dishonestly profiting by deceiving and preying on others are the most despicable especially when they are backed by equally despicable people in government and power in general so they can destroy people with impunity in the guise of “mental/physical health or treatment.”

  • I’m very grateful that Dr. Joanna Moncrieff has been becoming much more hard hitting about the huge debacle and damage done by the self serving voted in invention of the latest fraud fad bipolar with not much resemblance to the manic depression it pretended to replace to push the latest lethal drugs, neuroleptics and so called mood stabilizers, on a brain washed public for their normal ups and downs and not so normal downs as the psychopaths in power continue to hijack the globe and impoverish and enslave the majority, the real abnormal or character/human disordered. The fact they include all the abused and traumatized by those in power makes the invention of this life destroying bipolar stigma and the lethal drugs to “treat” it all the more pernicious.

    Another obvious ploy is that biopsychiatry and Big Pharma had to create the fraudulent bipolar to prey on a much larger number of people with the lethal drugs and fraud since the bogus sacred symbol of schizophrenia only included about 1% of the population. This is so despicable it boggles the mind and provides the evidence that only very evil, narcissistic people could dream up such a vicious, predatory scam to instill nightmares on the rest of us.

    This article is included in the book, De-Medicalizing MiseryII:

    http://www.amazon.com/-Medicalizing-Misery-II-Politics-Industry/dp/1137304650/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397229964&sr=1-1&keywords=De-Medicalizing+Misery+II

  • litmurf,

    Given that the drugs you seem to be advocating are known to make all the conditions for which they are prescribed much worse in the long run per real experts with no conflicts of interest, I find it odd that you would think it helpful to force them on anyone, least of all your precious son. It appears that those on these drugs especially by force are all the more likely to be violent or be subjected to violence due to their dangerous effects.

    If your son is really being physically threatening, perhaps the police should be called since he is committing a crime of violence. But, that doesn’t mean that you should follow E. Fuller Torrey’s advice and turn over the furniture to make him appear violent when he isn’t to subject him to ill conceived psychiatric “treatment.”

    Though I feel bad for Adam Lanza’s mother, I think she was grossly irresponsible to allow Adam access to guns as his problems became more clear and to increasingly collude with his growing isolation per school officials who tried to help him in various ways per web articles and news releases.

    Finally, those advocating for Tim Murphy’s law like NAMI and other groups have much Big Pharma backing as usual, which makes this agenda highly dubious and suspicious as to its true motives indeed.

    As is true of most involved, either they are deceived or complicit.

  • This article reminds me of the Kennedy family in that all their horrible behavior due to their long term dysfunction has been passed off as “mental illness” including the lobotomy of a sister of the would be president boys, so she wouldn’t get in their way. But, as they say, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, which is especially true of biopsychiatry gaining way to much fascist power to aid and abet the psychopaths hijacking the globe and all its resources to make slaves of the majority or 99%.

    Now, the required ritual for bad behavior outed to the public whether it is drug/alcohol abuse, acting out sexually or other issues used to demonize and scapegoat people by the hypocritical public is to declare one’s self sick and in need of “treatment” and trot off to the appropriate rehab as is the case with this author and many other public figures.

    Just like the recent article on MIA debunking AA and the psychiatric “treatment” industry making billions, the stance promoted by this infomercial for the mental death profession and Big Pharma is vile to say the least and also needs debunking.

    When I saw this author advocating Time To Change to reduce/eliminate stigma by creating more stigma with such bogus claims, I felt totally disgusted by this article:

    “Politicians also need to support efforts like Time to Change to reduce stigma whilst ensuring that services which enable people to take control of their own lives and fulfil their potential are available everywhere they are needed, not just in Bedlam.”

    What a farce!! Bob Whitaker and many others have written about studies that the whole mental death profession as sold out to a biopsychiatry/Big Pharma with its bogus voted in stigmas passed off as brain diseases produces nothing but all the more stigma, ostracism, contempt, abuse, fear and avoidance of those with these fake stigmas. And they also expose the horrific effects of the brain damaging, life destroying deadly “treatments” of biopsychiatry as well with the rest of the profession forced to go along.l

    That’s why we have all these AOT laws coming to a place near you thanks to these fear/disease mongerers who are scapegoating the so called mentally ill for the deadly effects of their lethal SSRI and other drugs causing most if not all public shootings and their refusal to enact more gun control.

  • I find this article and its typical question about ADHD or some other bogus, voted in DSM stigma being under or over diagnosed revolting as usual. It’s a FAKE, bogus, invented stigma made up by biopsychiatry in bed with Big Pharma to medicalize boyhood for the most part to push toxic drugs.

    I reluctantly present an Esquire article here questioning the huge number of boys given this stigma because though it questions this and poses alternatives, I don’t think it goes far enough in exposing this despicable fraud destroying the lives of countless boys and a growing number of girls.

    http://www.esquire.com/features/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414

    Fortunately, child neurologist, Dr. Fred Baughman, has done all in his power to expose the ADHD fraud in his book and web site:

    http://www.adhdfraud.net/

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/interviews/baughman.html

    Another book by honest experts exposing the despicable fraud of ADHD:

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/0230507123/ref=rdr_ext_tmb

    Rethinking ADHD: From Brain to Culture [Paperback]
    Sami Timimi (Editor), Jonathan Leo (Editor)
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  • As I read this article, I noted an amazing confession about/from a noted genetics expert:

    “Emotional child abuse has to be banned – the science backs up our instincts. The case for it comes from the nature as well as nurture side of the child development debate. In an astonishing admission in the Guardian last month, Robert Plomin, the country’s leading genetic psychologist, admitted of the Human Genome Project’s quest for genes for psychological traits of all kinds: “I’ve been looking for these genes for 15 years and I don’t have any.”

    The null hypothesis of the Human Genome Project will almost certainly have to be accepted: that genes play almost no role in explaining why one sibling is different from another. In the meantime, we need not fear Orwellian intrusion on parents by social workers measuring how much we love our children.”

    Though this is good news that the nasty eugenics agenda has remained an illusion as Dr. Jay Joseph has exposed repeatedly and MIA has posted about many times, as I said above, I am not convinced that biopsychiatry’s apparent willingness to substitute abuse related trauma for their bogus gene, chemical imbalance and other claims to push their vile invalid DSM agenda and toxic drugging, ECT and other brain damaging treatments to prey on and scapegoat those they continue to stigmatize as “mentally ill” and dangerous to self and others.

    Of course, this comes as no great surprise for those who have been researching this issue for many years. Many are all too well aware that biopsychiatry deliberately created the no fault DSM bogus paradigm to shore up their pretense of being real medical doctors when Freudian analysis waned while selling out to Big Pharma at the cost of countless destroyed lives.

    It has already been demonstrated repeatedly that psychiatry’s toxic drugs are useless and deadly for trauma survivors with our dying traumatized soldiers a perfect example.

  • Thanks for posting this Kermit. I totally agree with the subject of this book given my experience with struggling with smoking, diet and even shopping issues for years and being brainwashed to believe I had an “addictive personality.” Fortunately, experts like Dr. Stanton Peele, author of The Truth About Addiction And Recovery, and many others exposed the big lie that one needed treatment from the multibillion dollar industry the rehab debacle has become, which is the typical blaming, scapegoating and humiliating their victims to manipulate society to do the same and force them into so called treatment, which is another bogus but very lucrative scam.

    Those like Dr. Gabor Mate take a much more compassionate approach, but I agree with Stanton Peele that one needs to substitute better alternatives and goals that will help one eliminate toxic addictions. Dr. William Glasser takes the same approach in his books like Positive Addictions.