Wednesday, February 1, 2023

Comments by manymore

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  • Thank you Jane for sharing here.
    And I am honored, so very honored to be the first to comment, on your piece, your letters to your doctors.
    Guess, what? We have the same first name too!
    And I too, suffered through Seroquel, and Zyprexa, and ………..well, many.
    I think it was the Zyprexa that yellowed my sclera and really made me sick. Much, oh so much sicker than I ever had been. I lucked out with my “non-compliance” I think. My doctor at that time, had not really wanted to get me started on the nastier drugs, yet, did believe in them. Did not believe me though, when I reported eye twitches, and yellowing in the whites of my eyes.
    And oh, it might have been Depakote that did that. Difficult to fully remember some of those years.

    Thank goodness for writing, and journals. And fellow survivors.

    ((((((((Jane Englemen))))))))may both hugs and eagle wings surround you now.

    We are free. I shall use my directions, in the way of prayer, and perhaps burn some sage and sweetgrass for your continued healing. Safety. And harmony. Peace. Love. Grace.

  • Yep. Great article. Thank you.
    I had a Native American friend, and a Veteran, who shared his own experiences and then introduced me to some of the practices and ways of the Native Americans. So helpful. So healing to have had the honor and then instruction. Not to mention the stories he told. Of his own journey, so to speak, and experiences. As well as some of the more sacred ones…..the stories.

    It came at such a perfect time in my own journey too. I was still tapering off my last medication and had just left psychiatry behind.

    New practices, new paradigms. Yes, we do, have much to learn from older traditions. I agree.

    I think it’s important to add, that we should also respect the older traditions and peoples……before we begin to share their practices and traditions. Let them guide us, if you will, ask permission, etc. Otherwise we risk offending. At least with our Native American friends.

    I don’t know much about the Maori culture. Yet, as I am hoping to learn more.

    Thanks again!

  • Nice piece of exploration.
    There ARE so many contradictions and I think that when we begin to examine the language used it IS helpful. Otherwise we risk putting potential allies on the defense. Allies for change. Period.
    And “they” risk putting us on the defense as well.

    We have to be able to listen and communicate somewhere in the middle, I believe, for real change to happen.

    The current standards for FEP(first episode psychosis), in the U.S. anyway, really worry me. Young folks being put on AP’s/neuroleptics/dumb adjuncts to AD’s and then never, ever, being given a chance to come off with proper guidance in tapering and/or with an understanding of withdrawal. Lives often so very limited by over-medication and for too long. Families and friends believing that their loved one is damaged and hopeless due to the media, and/or the proliferation of “diagnonsense”. That darn DSM-5 bible thing.

    And oh, I loved the spiritual stuff.

    And this too:
    One other possibly helpful metaphor for madness is that of wilderness.

    It can be disturbing when young people wander off into the wilderness. What if they become lost, and need to be rescued? Sometimes people do need to be rescued. But a society too sure that the wilderness is nothing but bad will seek to prevent young people from ever wandering off, won’t recognize when people are doing OK in their explorations and don’t need to be rescued, and/or will even seek to destroy the wilderness so that everything can be “civilized” — aka, sane.

    “Not all who wander are lost”
    Yah…..what does being lost mean anyway? Maybe just not being accepted? Or being different from what others expected of us? I don’t know.

    Yes, change is badly needed. I think explorations like this will help.

    Jiddu Krishnamurti: It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

    signed: psychiatric survivor
    I wondered though, if, when I used that term for myself for the first time in a mixed group of peers, offline, in person, if it was understood…..what I meant by that. I guess I just figure they will ask me if they’d like to know more about what it means to me. Some do know that I feel my healing or recovery only really began when I left the psych system and carefully finished my medication tapers. Boy was I getting sicker being “compliant” and riding the merry go round of medications.

    Maybe I should say I’ve been found(no longer lost and wandering/wondering anymore ) I get to be me.

    Thanks for the space. I’m practicing my words.

  • Yes, thank you, on your comments on the 12 steps and working them in order, with a sponsor. And then again and again. That’s my plan.
    Good to be sober as well.

    Welcome to Humanity and yes, we are all in this thing together helps me as well.

    I hear a lot of pain and suffering here, since I last signed in. Gentle hugs all around.

    Peace out.

  • Oh, sorry I’m really rambly today.
    I prefer not to be classed as MI in any way, shape, or form now.

    Yes, bcharris, self help, non-drug coping with life!
    I can’t do recreational drugs or alcohol at all.
    Just a cuppa or two of coffee is tolerable to my system AND a comfort as well for some strange reason. It’s hot, I use coconut milk, honey, and a sprinkle of cinnamon and tumeric. I love my herbal teas as well.

    Working on the best healing diet for me that I can. It’s a work in progress for me. I can’t do extremes anymore.
    Add in nature. Movement/exercise. People in my life too- that part is hard- I just don’t know where I belong wholly, which tribe…….so I skirt around many…..mostly online. AA helps me……the 12 steps. And is everywhere… I do it, for community, real people, and to learn how to live, really live again. Wow…..making amends to the loved ones harmed by my psychiatric dependence, as well as the aftermath???!!! Tough stuff yet they tell me it will help… the long run, with my faith. Enlightenment. So I do it or am getting back to it and out of so much time on the box, online, computer time. I’ve gone overboard with it. And a different kind of faith now for me. In the Universe. In my own resilience. Accepting others for where they might be at too. Middle of the road stuff I think, for me…….works best.

    Best to all with all our healing!

  • I like it.

    Mainly because of where I am at in my journey.

    I’ve even stopped talking so much about my prolonged withdrawal situation/experience now. Or expecting any recognition for it. It’s been fierce though. Trying not to hang on to withdrawal woes as my whole identity. I’m 2 plus years off them all now.

    30 years and 30 drugs. I’m kind of lucky though because I don’t ever think I was on more than 2 or 3 maximum at one time. All the classes of them. Many “diagnonsense” labels.

    Yup, I’m trying man. I am. To take responsibility. Learn and grow. Be accountable. And I hear you and think you “get it” and might understand how hard it is. The unlabeling for me is currently a challenge.

    As is my autonomic nervous system in general.

    I did go see my GP, functional doctor not too long ago. I told him I was well.

    Today…..not so much.

    Tomorrow better.

    I liked it though. And would have quoted, highlighted what I really liked but I’ve gone on long enough.

    I’ve still got some letters after my name too.
    manymore MSN(I was in pediatrics and did the NP thing there too, I let my licensure go this year though….I had downgraded to R.N. anyway…..I could not do the work I was educated and trained for after awhile. No pity party though……I had a really nice 20 year career) and also CPS(certified peer support specialist, unemployed, temporarily unavailable as I have ethical concerns around the government guidance/supervision for peers these days, hoping I can find the right balance though soon with this) Yet, I’m thankful for disability from the government. The good kind. I’ve got a little in an IRA to, to help make ends meet.

    Oh and I’m pretty stressed lately trying to climb out of months of isolation. Easily overwhelmed. That kind of thing.

    I don’t know when exactly I’ll find my new nitch in volunteering. I’ve kind of hit a big wave lately.

    Thanks for the space.

    Again. Thumbs up. Liked this piece a lot.