I agree, thank you, Will, for your truthful reporting. Did this article make anyone else just throughly disgusted with the psych industries’ abuses of power … and their clients?
“A new essay published by the Journal of Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing argues that the criteria used to justify forced psychiatric treatment are outdated and unreliable, leaving coercion without a sound ethical or scientific basis.”
I agree.
“The essay, by Dirk Richter of Bern University of Applied Sciences, argues that psychiatry does not have a reliable disease model for determining who is “mentally ill.”
And he is right, the DSM was confessed to be, by the head of NIMH in 2013, as “invalid” : 12 years ago.
“On that basis, he writes, forced treatment cannot be justified. Richter warns that coercive measures are ethically indefensible and often harmful,”
I agree, but sometimes, families do need help with someone who becomes “psychotic,” due to alcohol encephalitis. Is that diagnosis even in the DSM?
“a concern made more urgent by new U.S. proposals to expand involuntary treatment of unhoused people.”
Wrong move, especially given the fact banks “stole millions of houses,” and their home equity, from the American people not long ago.
“’Instead of the positive effect, the people affected tend to experience punishment, powerlessness, and humiliation,’ Richter writes. ‘This means that psychiatric coercion is at best experienced by a minority as a measure to promote mental health, but for the most part does not lead to the well-being of the people affected.’”
True.
As to your 5 points …
1. “Does psychiatry have a valid disease model?”
Obviously, no, since the “invalidity” of it was confessed to 12 years ago.
2. “Are psychiatric therapies effective?”
Well, since the ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” symptoms. And the “bipolar” drugs, which are the same as the “schizophrenia” drugs, can create both the positive and negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Obviously, that would be untrue also.
3. “Are measures used as a last resort and in the least restrictive way?”
No, I will say, as one who dealt with a now FBI convicted doctor, who had lots of people medically unnecessarily sent to himself, had them psychiatrically “snowed,” so he could do unneeded tracheotomies on them for profit.
4. “Are coercive measures taken for the person’s benefit?”
Absolutely not.
5. “Can autonomy be restored through coercion?”
Again absolutely not. A lot of healing has to take place, after such medical, religious, and even governmental betrayal.
Psychiatry needs to clean up the deplorable mess they’ve created, try to safely wean people off their neurotoxins. And that bad system needs to be weaned out of existence.
I do think this is the root of the problem in the US:
As a small American banker’s daughter, whose family did supposedly keep track of the money, within our dreams, when the big globalist banks obviously did not. I’m pretty certain we need to get rid of Western civilization’s bad systems, which most definitely includes psychiatry … but also includes the globalist usury based banking system.
But in the meantime, I do agree, “Housing First,” without psychiatric or psychological intervention, is the best path forward.
I will admit, since it’s the anniversary of 9.11.2001, my Holy Spirit blaspheming, child abuse covering up, psychologist blamed all the distress of 9.11.2001 on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is/was an insane and “invalid” belief system.
Again, I’m not allowed to see the entirety of this article, and told, “This content is restricted to buyers of .” And again I ask, “buyers of” what?
Hopefully later, as a MiA subscriber and regular donor, I will be able to see the rest of this article soon.
But as one who had a dream query claimed to be “psychosis,” I will point out the reality that when the “mental health professionals” claim all dreams are “psychosis,” since we all dream, they have rendered the term “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality.”
And, since my dream was of a Spiritual nature, I do agree, dismissing Spiritual dreams by the Holy Spirit blaspheming, scientifically “invalid” “mental health professionals,” may have been a mistake on their part.
Just an FYI, Patricia, my child was abused by a board member of his preschool, not by either my husband nor I. Albeit I will admit my husband did come from a highly dysfunctional family, but my husband wasn’t a child abuser, he was a wife abuser, just like his weak father.
And once my family’s medical records were handed over, I did scare that private “school for gifted children” into closing it’s doors forever, on of all days, 6-6-06.
I just wanted to point out the abuse did not come from within my family, given your and Steve’s correspondence. So not all child abuse is blamed on families.
And since I did get my child away from the abuser quite quickly, by the time he was 10 or so he was doing much better. He got in the 100th% on his state standardized tests by 8th grade, graduated from high school as the valedictorian, from university Phi Beta Kappa, including winning a psychology award as well, with staggeringly glowing compliments to me, by his psychology professors.
I don’t want all abuse of innocent children blamed on family members, by the systemic child abuse covering up “mental health professionals.”
Thank you for this interview, I’m a fan of your work, Dr. Ioannidis. I’d be grateful if you would consider pointing out that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Thank you for your consideration of my request.
As one who has dealt with child abuse covering up psych “professionals,” and has done my own psychopharmacology research. Thus as one who knows covering up child abuse is the number one actual function of the psych industries.
I will say, as one who was eventually handed over medical evidence of the abuse of my very young child … being handed over the medical evidence of the truth will set you free. Society really should not have a bunch of scientifically “invalid,” systemic child abuse covering up, “mental health industries.”
Perhaps it’d be a good idea to start arresting the child abusers, instead of having the “mental health professionals” neurotoxic poisoning the child abuse survivors, and their legitimately concerned mothers?
Well, for anyone reading this, I will say when you start talking about the anticholinergic drugs (instead of the “antidepressants” and/or “antipsychotics,” both of which are anticholinergic drugs).
The mainstream doctors and psychiatrists do tend to take notice … probably because they were all taught about anticholinergic toxidrome in med school. And I didn’t even have to be all that assertive when helping my loved one – I just spoke the truth in a language doctors understand. Albeit, I am confident in my medical research findings / knowledge.
“Doctors are trained to respond to data. If you want to get your points across, do your homework. Be confident, ask questions, and stand up for yourself or your family members.”
I agree, and this is how I helped a loved one avoid getting entangled in “the system,” in part due to a medication error issue. But the psychiatrists do get a bit embarrassed when you tell them your knowledge of the anticholinergic drugs is due to having a “bad fix” on a broken bone covered up with complex iatrogenesis.
“Trust your instincts and what you observe—the doctor isn’t there day to day, you are.”
Indeed, doctors who only meet people in 15 minute increments, and don’t listen to people, really know nothing at all about a person. That’s why my former psychiatrist literally declared my entire life to be “a credible fictional story” in his medical records.
Which is why the psych industries need to be weaned out of existence, Rosalee.
Thankfully for me, I did find the head of family medicine at the reputable Cleveland Clinic hospital, did have a brain in his head … not to mention doctors at other local hospitals, when I helped a loved one.
Speaking the truth of the fraud of the psych industries is understandable to the decent mainstream doctors.
The “Russian roulette is not the same without a gun” song came out, just after I escaped psychiatry in 2009. I tell you, He’s “killing me softly with His song, singing my life with His words.” And no, “video didn’t kill the radio star,” I just went off to college when that song came out, so I couldn’t sleep with the radio on. But I did grow up in “the city that never sleeps,” and the NY Jews supposedly chose me, when I was only in 5th grade.
It was also in 2009, when I had my Chicago awakening, during which the kind souls of Chicago supposedly called me, “the tailor who sings with the Lord,” since I did work retail next to a Lord and Tailor store, when I lived in Chi-town. It’s bizarre, but kind of cool actually. My life’s story should be a musical some day.
But, yes, Yishay, there were numerous costs. For example, my marriage was destroyed and I lost my childhood religion, due to their “faustian partnership” with the psych industries. “That’s me in the spotlight losing my religion.” But I do still have hope that it is us truth tellers, who will be the ones singing, “We are the champions my friends, and we’ll keep on fighting till the end …” in the end.
And you’re right, Steve, there are “not many ‘winners’,” when it comes to those who have had the misfortune of dealing with the scientifically “invalid” psych industries. I’m personally still rather shocked they didn’t kill me. Thank you, Jesus, for dying for my sins.
And defaming and drugging people up for dreaming, since we all dream, renders the meaning of the concept of “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality,” psych professionals. Since most people don’t have awareness of, nor awakenings to, their dreams. Thank you, God, for your awakenings of me to my dreams.
I disagree, if you’re put on multiple anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and/or antipsychotics) and become “psychotic,” then you can point out you’ve dealt with anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Not that our legal system, medical system, et al, is/are wise, or ethical enough, to understand/confess to this yet.
I’d say dealing with psychiatry is more like Russian roulette, but I was pretty much always coerced or forced to take six to nine drugs simultaneously, not just one, and that causes anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Anything to silence a non-violent, legitimately concerned mother of a child abuse survivor.
But when my family’s medical records were finally handed over, at least I was able to scare a private school, that had a pedo on their school board, into closing its doors forever … which is a good thing.
Abuse of children is a big problem in this country, many thanks to the systemic child abuse covering up, scientifically “invalid,” “mental health professionals.”
How embarrassing, us independent psychopharmacology researchers, who stand against child abuse, seem to have malice intending followers from many industries.
“By demonstrating that trauma and maltreatment predict more severe psychotic symptoms independent of parental psychiatric history, the findings shift attention to social and relational conditions rather than inherited vulnerability.”
And never forget, the antidepressants / “antipsychotics,” aka neuroleptics, can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. And the “schizophrenia” treatments can also create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.”
Oh, now I have the full article, glad I’m a MiA subscriber. (And I am dealing with computer hacking problems … still. But it may be some Google affiliated entity now, since Apple tells me they have prevented Google from profiling me many times every week, despite the fact I’ve already told Google/YouTube who I am.)
“This content is restricted to buyers of .” Buyers of what?
“Psychosis Severity Tied to Childhood Trauma, Not Inherited Mental Illness” … the saddest part of this is that the number one cause of so called “mental illness” today is cover ups of child abuse, since none of the “mental health professionals” may bill to help child abuse survivors, according to their “invalid” DSM “bible.”
I’m so sorry, Sera, the attacks on us kind souls who actually want to help others, the truth tellers, are appalling. Trust me, I know. I’m still dealing with computer hacking crimes.
I recently saw a youtube post about “AI being man’s attempt at creating god,” I didn’t watch it, but largely agree, that’s what AI seems to be.
The desire to utilize LLMs to dictate one reality at a particular point in time, based upon whatever the beliefs of the particular programer believes, or is paid to program – with an understanding of the fact that, of course, that programer would want to “maintain the status quo.”
That theology neglects to acknowledge the true reality that life is a journey, and humanity should always have freedom of speech, especially on the internet, so we may collectively always work our way towards wisdom … such that we may hopefully collectively bring about a better world.
The entire idea of creating one AI, from LLMs, instead of maintaining freedom of speech and continued growth of all of humanity – which I have no doubt is God’s goal – is a really unwise idea, IMHO.
Well, we know that “psychosis” and “hallucinations” can be created with the “antidepressants” and “antipsychotics” / neuroleptics (both anticholinergic drug classes), via anticholinergic toxidrome.
We also know the amphetamines (like the ADHD drugs) can also cause “psychosis.”
But other environmental causes of “psychosis” can be the street drugs, Wernicke-Korsakoff (WK) syndrome, sleep deprivation, and other medical drugs – if I recall correctly, like the steroids, but no doubt likely others as well. Please add to this list if you know of other environmental etiologies of “psychosis,” please.
For example, when I was five, my family moved from Chicago to New York … and I developed an “imaginary friend” … which I’m sure the psych “professionals” of today would call “psychosis.” But that would imply something as simple as merely changing environments, and not for the worse, could cause “psychosis.”
Jay, your title made me laugh, since I’ve got a train wreck painting I need to get going on. I knew I had to paint it because during my initial anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning, I had a rather terrifying struggle with God, resulting in me not leaving my bedroom for three days. And the song, “… Runaway train never going back Wrong way on a one-way track …” kept playing on the radio.
It strikes me as comedically ironic (or even eye for an eye justice), that the industries that railroaded me, are now looking at their own train wreck. Especially as one whose doctors become frustrated, when I tell them that the most common cause of death on both sides of my family, are train wrecks.
Thank you, Jay, for your very well documented years of truthful research. God bless.
As one who dealt with 14 different unjust and even illegal (by a now FBI convicted doctor) anticholinergic toxidrome psychiatric attempted murders, thus also dealt with a NDE. I too am at least trying to get over my anger, and trying to help protect others, which is a good goal in life.
I think that is largely the goal of MiA. And I, too, daily think “of how lucky I am, and have always been.” Again, thank you for all you do, Kermit. You are a very important person. God bless.
You brought a tear to my eye, Kermit. Thank you for all you’ve done. I’m glad you survived a near death experience (NDE), and my prayers for your continued healing. Any interesting NDE story?
“This, I believe, is the measure of Mad in America’s success; can we find our way past fear and anger to loving each other.” I love MiA, since it gives the patients who were harmed by psychiatry a voice, and a place to get the anger out, via writing. And it’s also a good place to share our psychopharmacology research findings.
Can you allow us to assess it, without requiring a login to WordPress? I’d be interested in reading it, Dr. Scott. Or maybe just post it here, as well?
Ralph Nader has been somewhat of a hero of mine, since I learned about “Unsafe at Any Speed,” and read “On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors” in the early 1980s. Thanks for pointing out this website.
I have not subscribed to the website yet, but did notice the list referencing the anticholinergic drugs is missing the fact they can cause psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome, which I believe is highly relevant information. But I’m not that surprised that Nadar is also pointing out the fraud of big Pharma.
Thank you, Allen, and I’m glad some psychologists are speaking the truth … maybe I’ll look for your book next time I’m in a book store.
As a doctor, I would imagine you understand why the psychologists want to bill, via the fraudulent manner all MDs do. But as an ethical banker’s daughter, I also do see the systemic fraud (not only of the MDs, but also of my father’s industry) ….
I understand why you say the “DSM is intractable,” but I disagree. I do believe the introduction of the internet, will eventually take down the scientific fraud based, scientifically “invalid,” greed only inspired DSM “bible” billers.
But, only time will tell, and it’s good for intelligent people to discuss these important issues, so thank you for your comment.
“In the 1900s, when psychiatry divorced from psychology and psychoanalysis, it became the turf keeper of biology and chemistry.”
I disagree that psychology and psychiatry are “divorced” now, especially the DSM “bible” billing psychologists, which I think is most of them.
Since my experience with psychologists is they are “partnered” with the religions, but also function as funnels to the psychiatrists … to cover up egregious crimes for the mainstream paternalistic religions.
Instead I must admit to being one of the “anti-psychiatrists,” who realize “that you cannot modify psychiatry; you must revolutionize it, you have to abolish it.” As any DSM “bible” billing, ethical psychologist should admit.
Since you can’t bill with an “invalid” psychiatric DSM “bible,” and be “divorced” from the “BS” of the DSM deluded psychiatric industry, psychologists.
We really do need to end the psychiatric / psychologic DSM defamation and neurotoxic poisoning of all people … but especially of those still of childbearing age, and younger.
“‘Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep in SSRI-exposed fetuses is an abnormal phenomenon, but its significance for postnatal development is unclear,’ the researchers concluded” … based upon what research?
Since from what I’ve read, I’m pretty certain REM sleep is very important. And you may be right about akathisia being the cause of “Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep,” which is not good either.
Thank you for sharing your story. As I was reading it, it reminded me of what the “medical model” has as a deplorable goal, IMHO. The “medical model” is all about labeling people with their “life long incurable,” but “invalid,” DSM disorders, then neurotoxic poisoning their clients. And that satanic “medical model” is all about stealing hope from people, which I think is a deplorable goal.
Thanks again for sharing your inspiring story about how a non-money based model, that’s not about stealing hope, works so much better … albeit it’s not profitable. But shouldn’t we human beings be trying to help and care for one another anyway, not only for profit?
For goodness sakes, have you ever thought about the totally fraudulent aspect of the medical/pharmaceutical/insurance industrial complex’s payment system? A quick example, that hopefully will point out the fraud of it all.
I was handed an “art manager” contract by a psychologist who wanted me to pay him, to paint for him, while he “managed” me (via a ‘take a % of gross’ aspect of the contract), after I gave him total control of all my money (via the ‘conservatorship contract’ aspect of that thievery contract).
That’s actually the absurdity of how today’s US medical community charges the rest of us for their supposed “help.” In all honesty, it’s fraud.
Are you Al, or AI? Perhaps my comment was not clear enough, regarding my lack of respect towards the entirety of the scientifically “invalid” “mental health” industries?
Thank you, Rob, for pointing out that the psych industries are NOT the solution, and actually are a part of the problem. I agree housing first, would be a part of the solution.
I agree, psychological reductionism is staggeringly stupid, to the point it’s downright insane; and it is based upon the “chemical imbalance” lie. Honestly, the older psych “professionals” should be downright ashamed of themselves.
I mean, what is “professional” about now claiming to know nothing about the common adverse and withdrawal effects of the products one is selling / forcing others to purchase? There is nothing “professional” about that at all … and that comes from an honest sales professional, whose clients loved what I designed for them. Not that I didn’t turn a requested $2000 backsplash potential sale, into a $70,000 wainscoted laundry room sale, when I knew I was dealing with an extremely wealthy client.
It’s very important to know and respectfully understand one’s clients. I also had a not-too-wealthy client, who kept coming back to me, because I could design a backsplash and foyer floor, that combined the diamonds with the blue jeans (analogy), in a unique and beautiful manner.
I had to leave my psychiatrist, once I’d read all the misinformation he’d gotten from people who didn’t know me, instead of actually listening to me, written right in his medical records. And he did, very literally, declare the entirety of my life to be, “a credible fictional story” in his medical records … too insane for me, unprofessional “psych professionals.”
I agree, denial of trauma by the so called “mental health professionals” is the problem, and I agree to some extent with No-one, too. Since I had to walk away from my husband’s highly dysfunctional family. And I won’t let any dysfunctional family, including a highly dysfunctional religious “family,” divide me from my real family, which is why I had to leave my childhood religion forever.
My mom was recently “hospitalized” for over two months, and her “religious family” never even came to visit her once. I think she got one card, from a friend of ours, within that highly dysfunctional “religious family.”
I agree with Steve’s comment below, “How anyone imagines that inducing a seizure through electrocution can be anything but harmful to the brain is truly beyond comprehension!”
So does that mean we “need more research funding” for ECT research? Or should we just – utilizing common sense – end ECT? I personally think the latter is the wiser approach. Especially given the intentional lack of research into ECT, by the well funded, but scientifically “invalid” psych industries, at this point.
I don’t understand why, “According to the researchers here (and the researchers in other studies that similarly find patients don’t want their doctors to use AI), it’s the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI and ’emphasize its potential benefits’ to convince them to accept AI use:”
Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” Are the doctors now, not just the whores of big Pharma, but also whores of big Tech/AI, too?
“’From the physician’s perspective it thus may be important to transparently communicate the rationale for using AI and to emphasize its potential benefits for the patient,’ they write.”
“(Note: The researchers do not list any benefits in their article.)”
As one who knows AI is often wrong, I’ll ask again, Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” And what are the actual benefits of AI to the majority (your clients), doctors?
Thank you for sharing your story/perspective, Jasmine. I agree, this is an important topic to discuss. As a fellow psych survivor, I can write my story as a hero’s journey story, that does not match any of the narratives you point out as the psych industries’ “narrative.”
“Exposition: Establish protagonist (main character), the afflicted,” would be me. A women who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, an ethical banker’s daughter, a “tailor who sings with the Lord,” singing “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion,” who hopes and prays we can all work our way towards healing … and eventually wisdom.
“Rising Action: Establish conflict: Symptom onset. Illness develops.” I will say distress, not “illness” developed, in my personal case … due to the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 … which was my personal “Rising Action.”
“Climax: Protagonist confronts their obstacle, seeking professional help and receiving a clinical diagnosis.”
I did this, was a compliant patient, and was slowly weaned off of the majority of the psych drugs by my psychiatrist by 2005. Because once I’d stop seeing a pathological lying psychologist, my psychiatrist concluded I’d been misdiagnosed by that non-medically trained psychologist, which, of course, was true (a misdiagnosis of brain zaps, which weren’t known to the psych industries as a common withdrawal symptom of antidepressant discontinuation syndrome until 2005, but which was blatant malpractice according to the DSM-IV-TR at the time, and still should be).
“Falling Action: Protagonist diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication, and starts to get better.”
Well, I did “diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication.” But no, repeated anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, made me much worse. However, I did start to get much better, as I was weaned off the anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings.
“Resolution: Full recovery! Victory!”
Well, not quite so simplistic … my “resolution”/”elixir” was getting off the psych drugs … but the withdrawal wasn’t at all easy, initially. And I did have to do a whole lot of research, and personal self healing. So I would say, I’m still on my healing journey, and will likely be my entire life, and I think I will spend my entire life working my way towards wisdom.
That’s not a bad thing, however I’m not certain it could be claimed to be “Full recovery! Victory!” either. But the Jungian psychologists do seem to see the wisdom of spending one’s life working their way towards wisdom. And hopefully, if we all collectively work our way towards wisdom, we can help heal humanity together. And that would be a true “Victory!”
Life’s a journey, a search for wisdom, for all of us.
“Audre Lorde’s famous quote, ‘the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house,'” is a good quote. I’m glad the younger psychologists/couselors are garnering insight into the fact that the “master” is not the psychiatrists, and their “BS” DSM, nor yourselves. God save us all.
Wow, this is largely a description of why I didn’t buy into the “chemical imbalance” deluded professional and peer movement, nor pay to go back to school to become one of them, when requested to, by “mental health professionals” of my ex-religion.
The entirety of today’s “mental heath professions” is about caste systems, and defaming those perceived as lower.
I have no interest in partaking in the stupidity of the “mental health” industry’s caste system. Instead, I’ll say, if you must partake in belief in a caste system, I’ll take my proper place, with my father, as a member of an ethical banking family … and, of course, the ethical banking families, who’ve actually been keeping track of the money, are going to be much wiser than the largely insane, unethical, money only worshipping, scientifically debunked DSM caste system deluded, “mental health professionals.”
I’ve been doing a lot of research lately into narcissism, which does describe most of my former “mental health professionals,” and their pastor and bishop “partners.”
And I will say, don’t bother waiting for an apology from the systemic narcissists. Since even if it ever does come, which it likely will not, it won’t be a genuine and sincerely given apology.
But as one who is a stickler for justice, who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, I do most definitely understand your frustration, Blu.
Too cool, Derek. I hope this becomes a legal requirement for all doctors, if it technically isn’t already?
As a psychopharmacology researcher who found the medical evidence that the antipsychotics can create psychosis, and other “positive symptoms” of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome; as well as the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Please do include my medical research findings in the informed consent forms for the VA. And if you need a contact at the Cleveland VA, my son used to work there, and still has “Presidential managerial fellowship” friends who do still work there.
I moved out of Illinois over a decade ago, so haven’t been keeping track of everything going on there in my waking hours. But any state to ban “AI therapists” is doing the right thing. AI is not ready for prime time, and a bad idea, in general.
Please see my comment regarding the “schizophrenia” symptoms – and what can actually cause them – below, Marc. Now, of course iatrogenesis is not the only cause of the “schizophrenia” symptoms, but it may be the most common … not to dismiss your perspective, Marc … but I thought you should have that information.
The antipsychotics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome. And they can create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Your story made me cry, I’m sorry you dealt with a psychologist who harmed you, Catherine.
But I will say, in different ways, I found the DSM deluded psychologists, and gaslighting psychologists, to really be among the worst of all humans … on par, and in partnership with, the evil iatrogenic illness creators of the psychiatric industry.
I’ve found both painting, and writing, to be helpful in healing from trauma. So I wouldn’t avoid getting the evil out, via your creative expression of choice, Yishay … get the evil out, so you may move on.
As I think I mentioned to you earlier, I do so hope we may soon end WWII for the Israelis. The never ending wars need to end … for all of us.
I used to believe doctors and pastors were trustworthy, but the psych industries taught me to neither trust in, nor even automatically respect, any now working within the “two original educated professions.”
I agree, “Oftentimes in psychiatric settings, the voice of service-users is not heard ….” But the fact the psych professionals don’t listen to, or “not believed by doctor” what their clients say, is what allowed me to escape … once I was handed over all the BS and lies written into their medical records.
No one will ever believe their entire life is “a credible fictional story,” lunatics of the psych industries, who don’t know how to listen, nor treat others in a mutually respectful manner.
How do you know how your son actually feels, julie, as opposed to just what he tells you? Being on the antipsychotics long term is quite detrimental to one’s health.
So perhaps it’d be wiser to trust in your son’s hard earned wisdom, “to come off his medication to try feel better?” Albeit, I can’t say that will be easy … and a very slow taper is recommended.
I don’t mean any offense, julie, and of course I don’t know anything about your family’s personal situation. I’m just speaking as a mother to another mother. But with a reminder that the job of a mother is eventually to respect their children to make their own decisions, so they may become who they are meant to be.
“I’m not sure if I adequately conveyed here what it felt like to sit with this family.” I think you did a beautiful job, Amy. I can’t say I’ve ever even been slightly “triggered” by reading any other blog on MiA, but I somewhat did with your case story.
Now I must admit I tend to listen to youtube talks, when I read many MiA blogs, and I have been listening to a number of talks on narcissism lately, since I did deal with a lot of people who behaved as complete narcissists in my life … like this video discusses.
And your blog reminded me of all the narcissists with whom I’ve had the misfortune of dealing, including my former husband’s highly dysfunctional family, and my former highly dysfunctional religious “family” … largely due to their faustian “partnership” with the DSM deluded.
“The invisible rules mandating conformity in all things felt intense and oppressive.”
The debunked DSM deluded should garner insight into this wisdom. Today, everyone who doesn’t believe in the debunked DSM, or the chemical imbalance lie, is suffering from “anosognosia.” No, the debunked DSM deluded are the one’s in denial of the truth.
“My approach to diagnosis includes both observation of family interactional patterns and my experience of being with a family, testing both for points of rigidity and of flexibility. By flexibility I mean self-questioning, imagination, curiosity. The more flexibility, in general, the more health.”
Hint, hint, DSM “bible” billers. Wake up, your DSM “bible” was claimed to be “invalid” in 2013, by the head of the NIMH. It’s long past time to stop defaming all who don’t believe in your “bullish-t,” to have “anosognosia.”
“This story illustrates the sharp contrast between treating a mental disturbance as a relationship problem instead of [a] question of faulty brain chemistry.”
I agree. I’m glad you were able to actually help Melanie, Amy. The “faulty brain chemistry” DSM deluded are the unwise – distress is caused by distressing events and/or interpersonal issues, not “faulty brain chemistry.”
It’s interesting that this study was published by globalist bankers, and an organization that is “known for promoting personal and economic liberty, free enterprise, and limited government” – as opposed to in a medical journal – I will say, as a small American banker’s daughter, who has been speaking out against psychiatric fraud, criminality, and greed, for well over a decade.
Of course, “Forced Hospitalization Increases Suicide and Violent Crime” … welcome to the common sense.
The Cleveland Clinic hands over medical records of their patients – with the given diagnoses, or lack there of – at the time of payment, or lack thereof. That’s what all doctors should do, including the psych “professionals.”
At least that was my experience with a good doctor at the Cleveland Clinic, albeit I can’t say there aren’t bad psychiatrists there as well, since I did run into one of them too. Thankfully it only took mentioning I was allergic to the anticholinergic drugs to quickly scare him off ….
No one has commented on this blog in a couple days, so I’ll pose the question again, aside from wanting to maintain undeserved power they do NOT deserve, why do “Mental Health Workers Say They Want Recovery-Oriented Care?” And “Still Endorse Involuntary Treatment?”
“So, far from being unusually low, Oregon’s rate of psychiatric incarcerations of about 8,000 annually, or 190 incarcerations per 100,000 people, is near the national median.
“And that’s nearly double the UK rate and far higher than most comparable European countries.”
Isn’t that evidence of the systemic crimes of today’s “BS” US psych industries?
As one who had a brother who was a philosophy major, who is thus also a “philosophically informed critic,” who has, “raised fundamental questions about the assumptions underlying neuroscience research and challenged dominant models in psychiatry,” yada yada….
I agree, reintegrating “philosophical reflection into mental health education and practice,” is needed.
As one who insanely had all the “distress” of 9/11/2001, when I was picking up my psychologist’s medical records, blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is completely insane.
I’ll say, give Viviane a little credit, she’s very young, and has probably been grotesquely miseducated. And we do need to address the bad societal systems, which with we’re all dealing.
But I will say, Viviane, you have likely bought into a bad, paternalistic, system … since that’s what the DSM deluded psych industries are.
As one who has recently researched into narcissism, who dealt (and hopefully is no longer dealing, but I don’t yet know for certain) with a narcissist psychologist.
I will forewarn all psych survivors, about the narcissistic – and downright criminal – behaviors of the now scientifically debunked DSM deluded “psych professionals.”
Mind Freedom, I will try to get our donation to you soon, thank you for all you do.
“That psychologist wrote down the abuse. He acknowledged the physical attacks, abandonment, and psychological chaos I lived in. And then he concluded that my trauma wasn’t relevant, that my ‘developmental history was not contributory.’ That sentence became a badge my mother wore like armor, showing it to anyone who questioned her. It told the world that I was just a bad kid, and it let her off the hook.”
Pardon my disgust at the psych industries, since covering up child abuse is technically illegal, but it is the primary societal function of the scientifically fraud based psych industries today.
I’m pretty certain ODD only became a DSM diagnosis, when the “childhood bipolar epidemic” started to become an embarrassment to the DSM debunked “mental health industries.”
“Diagnosis should be a bridge to healing, not a life sentence based on a single misjudged moment.” I agree.
And the DSM “diagnoses,” which were confessed to be “bullshit,” by Allen Frances who was the primary editor of the DSM, in I think 2010, is the truth.
Respect for the “invalid” DSM deluded psychiatrists, et al, should end.
By the way, no “mental health” worker may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … to this day … and it’s all by DSM design.
“Perhaps it is the oppressors that are insane.” Or at least the bad systems, and corporations, through which they work. Someone’s gotta say it, right, Viviane?
Gosh, the psych industries are now telling the Harvard trained lawyers, who speak common sense, that they are the insane ones. How insane can our, shouldn’t be controlled by the psych industries’, society get?
I agree, Jim, “the solution for people without housing is housing.” It breaks my heart when I meet homeless people. I try to help them. There was a homeless woman who was dropped off in a park I frequent recently, by a church that was claiming to help her. She was sweet as pie.
But, the park rangers weren’t going to let her stay there, and both she and I knew it. And it was a park not near to anyone she knew was trying to help her, nor even close to an air conditioned place she could go to escape the extreme heat we’ve been experiencing this summer.
And I think both she and I knew she was possibly on the verge of heat stroke, and I’ve seen what heat stroke can do to a person, and I certainly didn’t want to see that happen to her.
So I drove her to the local library for the day, to cool off, then drove her back to the neighborhood she knew, and had churches that were supposedly trying to help her. Since I’m currently largely without a church or religion, who should have helped her, in my current suburb.
Sometimes, you have to do the best you can, given your current circumstances. I hope Bridget has found a home, and is okay. Let’s please pray to just house the homeless, without the psych industry’s BS.
Much to my claims to Bridget that no financial reparations were expected, nor needed. Bridget insisted on buying me a new pair of flip flops, as a thank you.
When I was in kindergarten, my mom ran a math lab at my school. I can’t really say she taught me about “sacred geometry,” since I taught her about that … but in a way she did.
But when we taught a bunch of underprivileged children, who initially “hated math,” about “sacred geometry” in a fun and creative manner, in the S.T.E.A.M. program we were running. I will say those children learned to utilize the creative side of their brains, and did come back telling us they now loved math.
Every elementary school should be teaching training into love of the sciences, technology, engineering, and mathematics, via the arts initially. Since children love learning, by making and creating … and should the love of learning, making, and creating ever really end, for any of us?
Oh, one other topic that I thought about recently, which I’ve not yet seen discussed here, but think it should be. Is the fact that the US is supposed to have separation of church and state.
But since both the religions and the state have social workers … that means we don’t have separation of church and state (not to the mention the 501c3 issue). But that is one other large systemic crime of the “mental health” industries, at least in the US.
I’ve never said the West is “the only place where these things are crazy.”
“I don’t see ‘getting rid’ of the systems as an option.” Why not? Have you ever really thought about it? Maybe, as I believe, the “systems” are too corrupted, and by design, to bother even trying to fix?
The psych industries are just one large instance. For example, by DSM design, no “mental health professional” to this day, may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … since that is missing from their debunked DSM billing code “bible.”
Perhaps, some “systems” are too paternalistically designed, and for evil intent, like systemically covering up child abuse, to even bother trying to reform.
But, psychiatry would have to clean up the societal mess which they’ve created, which will take time. So a bad paternalistic “system,” like the “mental health system,” IMHO, should be weaned out of existence.
I’m not a believer in the concept God created “mental illness.” But as a psychopharmacology researcher, I do know the psychiatrists and other MDs do, with the psych drugs.
“The elites have a lot of power, and they use it to protect themselves.” And they utilize today’s “mental health” industries to do this for them.
“We all already know that our political and social systems are basically insane. The ‘mental health system’ should be working to fix that, but it isn’t. That is our challenge.”
I agree, we need to get rid of Western civilization’s “insane” “political and social systems” … today’s “insane” societal problems are basically the same problematic industries, as Jesus spoke out against over 2000 years ago … +psychiatry and psychology, et al.
Psych drugging our children should completely end. For God’s sake, how is it that our society has multiple industries, which think grown adults should be defaming innocent young children, with scientifically “invalid” DSM disorders / “life long, incurable, genetic mental illnesses” … for life? That is disgusting.
In relation to discussing the education system … I as one, who attended one of NY’s best public school systems, back in the early 1970’s; and has experience with both the public and private school systems; and has run art and S.T.E.A.M. programs … I most certainly want to be a part of how to improve the schools.
And, there’s a lot of changes that need to be made, but I’m pretty certain we’ve all already dreamt up how to best fix them. Let’s hope and pray.
“anachronistic,” is a totally inappropriate term to use … given the fact we are trying to end today’s totalitarian, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billing system.
And bring about “participatory research [models that are built] on a growing body of scholarship and advocacy that challenges traditional hierarchies in mental health research and calls for centering lived experience in knowledge production. The findings also align with research on how community participation can address the limitations of traditional psychiatric research models by recognizing individuals with lived experience as co-creators of knowledge.”
For God’s sake, why would a psych “professional,” who has never taken a psych med,” know more about the psych “meds,” than a person who has been on them? They wouldn’t, and they don’t.
“Good science wants to move us closer to truth, and understands that even being proven wrong is a step forward.”
So the so called “mental health professionals,” whose DSM “bible” was debunked as “invalid” in 2013, need to garner insight into reality.
“No doubt science is not the only way we know things. Some things we know using logic. Some things we intuit or just have a feeling about. Some things we’re taught and we accept them as knowledge. Some things we can know using our five senses. Some may come from religious training.”
So the Holy Spiritual blasphemers of the “mental health industries” may want to repent, and change from their “unforgivable” ways?
“In Libya, psychiatric care — whether public or private — is often built on coercion, not compassion.”
The same is true in the US.
“I was never violent. Never suicidal. Never detached from reality. I was fighting something far more dangerous than madness — I was fighting a culture of fear and suppression masquerading as mental health care.”
I was never any of those things either. But it is rather sick, now that the psych industries have been found to be “invalid,” how desperate they’ve become.
I do appreciate the MDs who are speaking out against the insanity of the debunked psych industries. Thank you, Mohamed.
This blog largely points out the impropriety of psychologists functioning as funnels into the force drugging psychiatric industry, and why they shouldn’t be doing that. Not to mention, why neither the psychologic nor psychiatric industries should have a right to coerce or force neurotoxic poison anyone.
No offense, Richard, but psychiatry is an iatrogenic illness creation Ponzi scheme. The ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” and “schizophrenia” symptoms. And the antipsychotics can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
“‘Social prescribing’ has been presented as an effective strategy to mitigate the impact of the social determinants of health. These include referring individuals to art classes, physical activity, or other community alternatives to therapy and medication that help them connect with others and build communities.”
Well, I’m rather new to the concept of “social prescribing.” But after having antidepressant withdrawal induced brain zaps being misdiagnosed as “bipolar, just after 9.11.2001. And having all distress from 9/11 being blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone. By a manic lunatic psychologist, who’d gotten all her misinformation about me from her pastor, and a child abuser’s wife, rather than listening to my legitimate societal concerns.
I will say, art is good therapy, when one is being unjustly attacked, by a crazy DSM deluded, big Pharma forcing, psychologist. Regular, moderate exercise, in nature, was also a key in my healing journey, as was lots of other volunteer community service (for example, I was a planning commissioner of my Village.)
“Another study linked psychosis to poverty, housing and employment instability, and racism. Research has found that due to the disparities associated with psychosis, it cannot be separated from structural racism and social inequality.”
Neither can the psych industries’ forced druggings with the anticholinergic drugs, since all MD’s are taught in med school that the anticholinergic drugs (like the antidepressants and antipsychotics) can create psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome.
But I will agree, once one escapes the evil of psychological and psychiatric anticholinergic toxidrome attempted murders, one is then faced with systemic, attempted financial destruction, and shitloads of thievery, and attempted thievery.
“Critical psychologists have cautioned about how the practice of addressing social determinants of health is being approached. This is due to many turning social factors into individual issues, when there is a blatant need to address our society’s problems instead.”
Wake up to reality, DSM deluded psych lunatics, please … your DSM “bible” was debunked in 2013.
“In a previous study, mental health providers were found to endorse right-wing authoritarianism and ignore the needs of the hypothetical person for whom they were referred for treatment.”
Well, as one who was “referred for treatment” to a lunatic psychologist, instead of a medical doctor, as I requested, by an assh-le pastor, I will say this is not the problem.
But us “hypothetical” people are real, not “fictional,” as my medical records wrongly state.
Haven’t we all “lived through madness and distress” already? For goodness sake, Covid was societal madness, so was 9/11/01, and both were legitimately distressing. No doubt, it’s past time for the psych industries to take a long hard look in the mirror … and come towards understanding the hard truth … it’s past time for big change, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billers.
“’What is Reality?’ is a deep and profound question that has not been answered by Psychiatry. That answer needs to be answered first before condemning someone to being ‘not in touch with reality.’”
Good point, Consciousness. I like your pseudonym, by the way.
“Your perception is your reality. At the same time, we do Not define other people’s realities.” I agree, that’s a pretty good definition of reality. “… Don’t let someone else define your reality.”
But that is exactly what, I think it was all, of the “mental health professionals” that I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with did, or tried to do … you should read the thievery/conservatorship contract a psychologist handed me. Talk about a control freak nut job!
And what was even sicker was he had hacked into my computer, and was literally following me on the internet for years (after I’d reported him to the police once), talk about the epitome of creepy … not to mention downright criminal. Plus, Google told me he had set up a website, utilizing my name and one of my emails, apparently so he could try to gaslight me from within my own computer, and rewrite my life’s story, I would imagine? Creepy!
MiA, “This content is restricted to buyers of .”??? Is there more?
I’m so very grateful to the honest British psychologists, especially you, John Read. Since the American psychologists, that I’ve had the misfortune of being confronted by, “want to maintain the status quo” – which is misdiagnosing the common withdrawal effects of the antidepressants as bipolar – which leads one into a very literal, drug induced, living hell.
The staggering magnitude of harm, that the “mental health” industries are doing … especially to our children … is horrendous.
As one who has a really sweet love story in my dreams, that I am not just the “bad,” or good truth telling, mother of my own children … but a truth teller to all of the younger generations.
Tonight, I took a walk to my local convenience store, to buy stuff I shouldn’t be eating. But it was kind of cute that there were a bunch of high school aged young men, who were playing outside and stopped playing when they saw me … and they led me safely towards my local convince store. So the sweet love story of my dreams seemingly also exists in my waking hours … at least I hope and pray.
Thank you, Mr. Whitaker, for your continued truth telling … let’s save all the children … from the systemic harms of the scientifically “invalid,” DSM “bible” billing, industries.
“Trauma is subjective. It can shift with support, insight, and reframing. Its healing lies in meaning-making.
“Personal abuse is objective. It involves wrongdoing, moral breach, and requires truth-telling and repair.
“Systemic abuse blends the two. It distorts trauma to hide abuse and uses institutional power to deny both.”
Beautiful synopsis of the “mental health” industries’ systemic abuse, Maram. And it’s all by DSM design, since no DSM “bible” biller today, may ever bill for ethically and truthfully helping any child abuse survivor ever.
“The authors explain” … “they hope that it can inspire people to think differently and more broadly about some of the taken-for-granted assumptions and principles underlying much of what goes on in the psy-disciplines.”
Yes, “when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.” Please stop assuming you are the judges of all innocent people on the planet, “mental health professionals.” Since you are NOT, God is the judge of all, including you.
Thank you for pointing these rather blatantly obvious sins of the “mental health” industries, Micah.
“Is it time to consider the possibility that the entire field is a failed enterprise, a wrong turn in human history?” Indeed, I think it is. Thank you for this well written blog, Patrick.
And that comes from a decades long psychopharmacology researcher, and innocent, but formerly well insured person, who had the misfortune of dealing with both political and criminal abuse of the scientifically “invalid” psych industries … so they could cover up a “bad fix” on a broken bone for incompetent doctors, and medical evidence of the abuse of my three year old child for a pastor … two illegal activities.
“The fear that citizens suffer of being interned in an asylum turns all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized into terrorist states that have built a “chemical apartheid” for abnormal people.”
Well, I would say too many artists (instead of “abnormal people”) especially the visual artists, since “a picture paints a thousand words,” so a bunch of pictures about psychiatric harms, tells a damning story about the systemic crimes of both the psychological and psychiatric system (you may see a few of my pieces here, under the art section).
Marc Chagall painted the psychiatric / Spiritual war against the Jews, decades ago. And as a “Chicago Chagall,” I took a lot of inspiration from his work, and I painted the Spiritual / psychiatric and psychological crimes being committed against the American population today.
So I agree with you, “all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized [are] terrorist states.”
It is “way past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers.
For goodness sake, to the “mental health professionals’,” who are still claiming ignorance, of the fact that their DSM “bible” was debunked as “bulls-t” and “invalid” long ago. It is not time to “maintain the status quo.” Stealing from the widows in a church, that you don’t even attend, but you are unethically “partnered” with, is unacceptable human behavior. Proclaiming “all mosaic art is bad public art,” to steal a person’s time, defame their art form, and to prevent an artist in the church you are unethically “partnered” with from getting an art grant, is thievery of my time, insane, unethical, and morally wrong … and unacceptable human behavior.
It is long “past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers. Flush your DSM, if you don’t, you are the insane people, among the .05% of the population, that may not be staying on this planet.
God is sick and tired of the DSM deluded, mass murdering, psych “professions” repeating the worst of history … over and over again.
NPR should be defunded, if it doesn’t report on subjects like psychiatry’s debacles, like this report does. So thank you, NPR, for reporting the truth.
Yes, all of societies’ ills result from the love of “MONEY,” and the Ponzi scheme of the usury based banking systems, that create money out of nothing. Jesus forewarned us of this problem, over 2000 years ago.
I agree, thank you, Will, for your truthful reporting. Did this article make anyone else just throughly disgusted with the psych industries’ abuses of power … and their clients?
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“A new essay published by the Journal of Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing argues that the criteria used to justify forced psychiatric treatment are outdated and unreliable, leaving coercion without a sound ethical or scientific basis.”
I agree.
“The essay, by Dirk Richter of Bern University of Applied Sciences, argues that psychiatry does not have a reliable disease model for determining who is “mentally ill.”
And he is right, the DSM was confessed to be, by the head of NIMH in 2013, as “invalid” : 12 years ago.
“On that basis, he writes, forced treatment cannot be justified. Richter warns that coercive measures are ethically indefensible and often harmful,”
I agree, but sometimes, families do need help with someone who becomes “psychotic,” due to alcohol encephalitis. Is that diagnosis even in the DSM?
“a concern made more urgent by new U.S. proposals to expand involuntary treatment of unhoused people.”
Wrong move, especially given the fact banks “stole millions of houses,” and their home equity, from the American people not long ago.
“’Instead of the positive effect, the people affected tend to experience punishment, powerlessness, and humiliation,’ Richter writes. ‘This means that psychiatric coercion is at best experienced by a minority as a measure to promote mental health, but for the most part does not lead to the well-being of the people affected.’”
True.
As to your 5 points …
1. “Does psychiatry have a valid disease model?”
Obviously, no, since the “invalidity” of it was confessed to 12 years ago.
2. “Are psychiatric therapies effective?”
Well, since the ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” symptoms. And the “bipolar” drugs, which are the same as the “schizophrenia” drugs, can create both the positive and negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Obviously, that would be untrue also.
3. “Are measures used as a last resort and in the least restrictive way?”
No, I will say, as one who dealt with a now FBI convicted doctor, who had lots of people medically unnecessarily sent to himself, had them psychiatrically “snowed,” so he could do unneeded tracheotomies on them for profit.
4. “Are coercive measures taken for the person’s benefit?”
Absolutely not.
5. “Can autonomy be restored through coercion?”
Again absolutely not. A lot of healing has to take place, after such medical, religious, and even governmental betrayal.
Psychiatry needs to clean up the deplorable mess they’ve created, try to safely wean people off their neurotoxins. And that bad system needs to be weaned out of existence.
I do think this is the root of the problem in the US:
https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/when-the-united-states-became-a-corporation/
As a small American banker’s daughter, whose family did supposedly keep track of the money, within our dreams, when the big globalist banks obviously did not. I’m pretty certain we need to get rid of Western civilization’s bad systems, which most definitely includes psychiatry … but also includes the globalist usury based banking system.
But in the meantime, I do agree, “Housing First,” without psychiatric or psychological intervention, is the best path forward.
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I will admit, since it’s the anniversary of 9.11.2001, my Holy Spirit blaspheming, child abuse covering up, psychologist blamed all the distress of 9.11.2001 on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is/was an insane and “invalid” belief system.
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Again, I’m not allowed to see the entirety of this article, and told, “This content is restricted to buyers of .” And again I ask, “buyers of” what?
Hopefully later, as a MiA subscriber and regular donor, I will be able to see the rest of this article soon.
But as one who had a dream query claimed to be “psychosis,” I will point out the reality that when the “mental health professionals” claim all dreams are “psychosis,” since we all dream, they have rendered the term “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality.”
And, since my dream was of a Spiritual nature, I do agree, dismissing Spiritual dreams by the Holy Spirit blaspheming, scientifically “invalid” “mental health professionals,” may have been a mistake on their part.
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Just an FYI, Patricia, my child was abused by a board member of his preschool, not by either my husband nor I. Albeit I will admit my husband did come from a highly dysfunctional family, but my husband wasn’t a child abuser, he was a wife abuser, just like his weak father.
And once my family’s medical records were handed over, I did scare that private “school for gifted children” into closing it’s doors forever, on of all days, 6-6-06.
I just wanted to point out the abuse did not come from within my family, given your and Steve’s correspondence. So not all child abuse is blamed on families.
And since I did get my child away from the abuser quite quickly, by the time he was 10 or so he was doing much better. He got in the 100th% on his state standardized tests by 8th grade, graduated from high school as the valedictorian, from university Phi Beta Kappa, including winning a psychology award as well, with staggeringly glowing compliments to me, by his psychology professors.
I don’t want all abuse of innocent children blamed on family members, by the systemic child abuse covering up “mental health professionals.”
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Thank you for this interview, I’m a fan of your work, Dr. Ioannidis. I’d be grateful if you would consider pointing out that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Thank you for your consideration of my request.
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As one who has dealt with child abuse covering up psych “professionals,” and has done my own psychopharmacology research. Thus as one who knows covering up child abuse is the number one actual function of the psych industries.
I will say, as one who was eventually handed over medical evidence of the abuse of my very young child … being handed over the medical evidence of the truth will set you free. Society really should not have a bunch of scientifically “invalid,” systemic child abuse covering up, “mental health industries.”
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Perhaps it’d be a good idea to start arresting the child abusers, instead of having the “mental health professionals” neurotoxic poisoning the child abuse survivors, and their legitimately concerned mothers?
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I posted basically the same comment on Tucker Carlson’s youtube interview of an abused physician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeFtquLWFPQ
Since the physician mentioned Marcia Angell, I recommended Marcia’s 2005 book:
https://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375760946
That book recommendation is being censured by YouTube, at least it has been for the past hour plus.
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I thought MiA readers might find this synopsized history of pharma and medicine interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3jvS4pbm4
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I largely agree with Steve, Patricia, but have also been dealing with major computer hacking / profiling issues recently, too.
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Well, for anyone reading this, I will say when you start talking about the anticholinergic drugs (instead of the “antidepressants” and/or “antipsychotics,” both of which are anticholinergic drugs).
The mainstream doctors and psychiatrists do tend to take notice … probably because they were all taught about anticholinergic toxidrome in med school. And I didn’t even have to be all that assertive when helping my loved one – I just spoke the truth in a language doctors understand. Albeit, I am confident in my medical research findings / knowledge.
Thank you, as always, Steve.
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“Doctors are trained to respond to data. If you want to get your points across, do your homework. Be confident, ask questions, and stand up for yourself or your family members.”
I agree, and this is how I helped a loved one avoid getting entangled in “the system,” in part due to a medication error issue. But the psychiatrists do get a bit embarrassed when you tell them your knowledge of the anticholinergic drugs is due to having a “bad fix” on a broken bone covered up with complex iatrogenesis.
“Trust your instincts and what you observe—the doctor isn’t there day to day, you are.”
Indeed, doctors who only meet people in 15 minute increments, and don’t listen to people, really know nothing at all about a person. That’s why my former psychiatrist literally declared my entire life to be “a credible fictional story” in his medical records.
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Which is why the psych industries need to be weaned out of existence, Rosalee.
Thankfully for me, I did find the head of family medicine at the reputable Cleveland Clinic hospital, did have a brain in his head … not to mention doctors at other local hospitals, when I helped a loved one.
Speaking the truth of the fraud of the psych industries is understandable to the decent mainstream doctors.
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Don’t forget the greed, Birdsong.
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The “Russian roulette is not the same without a gun” song came out, just after I escaped psychiatry in 2009. I tell you, He’s “killing me softly with His song, singing my life with His words.” And no, “video didn’t kill the radio star,” I just went off to college when that song came out, so I couldn’t sleep with the radio on. But I did grow up in “the city that never sleeps,” and the NY Jews supposedly chose me, when I was only in 5th grade.
It was also in 2009, when I had my Chicago awakening, during which the kind souls of Chicago supposedly called me, “the tailor who sings with the Lord,” since I did work retail next to a Lord and Tailor store, when I lived in Chi-town. It’s bizarre, but kind of cool actually. My life’s story should be a musical some day.
But, yes, Yishay, there were numerous costs. For example, my marriage was destroyed and I lost my childhood religion, due to their “faustian partnership” with the psych industries. “That’s me in the spotlight losing my religion.” But I do still have hope that it is us truth tellers, who will be the ones singing, “We are the champions my friends, and we’ll keep on fighting till the end …” in the end.
And you’re right, Steve, there are “not many ‘winners’,” when it comes to those who have had the misfortune of dealing with the scientifically “invalid” psych industries. I’m personally still rather shocked they didn’t kill me. Thank you, Jesus, for dying for my sins.
And defaming and drugging people up for dreaming, since we all dream, renders the meaning of the concept of “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality,” psych professionals. Since most people don’t have awareness of, nor awakenings to, their dreams. Thank you, God, for your awakenings of me to my dreams.
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I disagree, if you’re put on multiple anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and/or antipsychotics) and become “psychotic,” then you can point out you’ve dealt with anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Not that our legal system, medical system, et al, is/are wise, or ethical enough, to understand/confess to this yet.
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I’d say dealing with psychiatry is more like Russian roulette, but I was pretty much always coerced or forced to take six to nine drugs simultaneously, not just one, and that causes anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Anything to silence a non-violent, legitimately concerned mother of a child abuse survivor.
But when my family’s medical records were finally handed over, at least I was able to scare a private school, that had a pedo on their school board, into closing its doors forever … which is a good thing.
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Abuse of children is a big problem in this country, many thanks to the systemic child abuse covering up, scientifically “invalid,” “mental health professionals.”
From youtube today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WFVl1I7Z18
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How embarrassing, us independent psychopharmacology researchers, who stand against child abuse, seem to have malice intending followers from many industries.
“By demonstrating that trauma and maltreatment predict more severe psychotic symptoms independent of parental psychiatric history, the findings shift attention to social and relational conditions rather than inherited vulnerability.”
And never forget, the antidepressants / “antipsychotics,” aka neuroleptics, can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. And the “schizophrenia” treatments can also create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.”
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Oh, now I have the full article, glad I’m a MiA subscriber. (And I am dealing with computer hacking problems … still. But it may be some Google affiliated entity now, since Apple tells me they have prevented Google from profiling me many times every week, despite the fact I’ve already told Google/YouTube who I am.)
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“This content is restricted to buyers of .” Buyers of what?
“Psychosis Severity Tied to Childhood Trauma, Not Inherited Mental Illness” … the saddest part of this is that the number one cause of so called “mental illness” today is cover ups of child abuse, since none of the “mental health professionals” may bill to help child abuse survivors, according to their “invalid” DSM “bible.”
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I’m so sorry, Sera, the attacks on us kind souls who actually want to help others, the truth tellers, are appalling. Trust me, I know. I’m still dealing with computer hacking crimes.
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I recently saw a youtube post about “AI being man’s attempt at creating god,” I didn’t watch it, but largely agree, that’s what AI seems to be.
The desire to utilize LLMs to dictate one reality at a particular point in time, based upon whatever the beliefs of the particular programer believes, or is paid to program – with an understanding of the fact that, of course, that programer would want to “maintain the status quo.”
That theology neglects to acknowledge the true reality that life is a journey, and humanity should always have freedom of speech, especially on the internet, so we may collectively always work our way towards wisdom … such that we may hopefully collectively bring about a better world.
The entire idea of creating one AI, from LLMs, instead of maintaining freedom of speech and continued growth of all of humanity – which I have no doubt is God’s goal – is a really unwise idea, IMHO.
Thank you for your truthful reporting, Peter.
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Well, we know that “psychosis” and “hallucinations” can be created with the “antidepressants” and “antipsychotics” / neuroleptics (both anticholinergic drug classes), via anticholinergic toxidrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxidrome
And the neuroleptics can also create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroleptic-induced_deficit_syndrome
We also know the amphetamines (like the ADHD drugs) can also cause “psychosis.”
But other environmental causes of “psychosis” can be the street drugs, Wernicke-Korsakoff (WK) syndrome, sleep deprivation, and other medical drugs – if I recall correctly, like the steroids, but no doubt likely others as well. Please add to this list if you know of other environmental etiologies of “psychosis,” please.
For example, when I was five, my family moved from Chicago to New York … and I developed an “imaginary friend” … which I’m sure the psych “professionals” of today would call “psychosis.” But that would imply something as simple as merely changing environments, and not for the worse, could cause “psychosis.”
Jay, your title made me laugh, since I’ve got a train wreck painting I need to get going on. I knew I had to paint it because during my initial anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning, I had a rather terrifying struggle with God, resulting in me not leaving my bedroom for three days. And the song, “… Runaway train never going back Wrong way on a one-way track …” kept playing on the radio.
It strikes me as comedically ironic (or even eye for an eye justice), that the industries that railroaded me, are now looking at their own train wreck. Especially as one whose doctors become frustrated, when I tell them that the most common cause of death on both sides of my family, are train wrecks.
Thank you, Jay, for your very well documented years of truthful research. God bless.
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My condolences, Steve. And I do have a few “love is the answer” pieces of artwork, within my art portfolio.
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As one who dealt with 14 different unjust and even illegal (by a now FBI convicted doctor) anticholinergic toxidrome psychiatric attempted murders, thus also dealt with a NDE. I too am at least trying to get over my anger, and trying to help protect others, which is a good goal in life.
I think that is largely the goal of MiA. And I, too, daily think “of how lucky I am, and have always been.” Again, thank you for all you do, Kermit. You are a very important person. God bless.
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Did you see Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring’s interview with Tucker Carlson today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhT77W9mtQ
Shame on Illinois for wanting to neurotoxic poison children, but thanks for the truth telling, Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring.
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You brought a tear to my eye, Kermit. Thank you for all you’ve done. I’m glad you survived a near death experience (NDE), and my prayers for your continued healing. Any interesting NDE story?
“This, I believe, is the measure of Mad in America’s success; can we find our way past fear and anger to loving each other.” I love MiA, since it gives the patients who were harmed by psychiatry a voice, and a place to get the anger out, via writing. And it’s also a good place to share our psychopharmacology research findings.
Thank you, MiA and Kermit, sending my love.
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“This content is restricted to buyers of .” … what?
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Can you allow us to assess it, without requiring a login to WordPress? I’d be interested in reading it, Dr. Scott. Or maybe just post it here, as well?
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Ralph Nader has been somewhat of a hero of mine, since I learned about “Unsafe at Any Speed,” and read “On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors” in the early 1980s. Thanks for pointing out this website.
I have not subscribed to the website yet, but did notice the list referencing the anticholinergic drugs is missing the fact they can cause psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome, which I believe is highly relevant information. But I’m not that surprised that Nadar is also pointing out the fraud of big Pharma.
Thank you, Allen, and I’m glad some psychologists are speaking the truth … maybe I’ll look for your book next time I’m in a book store.
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As a doctor, I would imagine you understand why the psychologists want to bill, via the fraudulent manner all MDs do. But as an ethical banker’s daughter, I also do see the systemic fraud (not only of the MDs, but also of my father’s industry) ….
I understand why you say the “DSM is intractable,” but I disagree. I do believe the introduction of the internet, will eventually take down the scientific fraud based, scientifically “invalid,” greed only inspired DSM “bible” billers.
But, only time will tell, and it’s good for intelligent people to discuss these important issues, so thank you for your comment.
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“In the 1900s, when psychiatry divorced from psychology and psychoanalysis, it became the turf keeper of biology and chemistry.”
I disagree that psychology and psychiatry are “divorced” now, especially the DSM “bible” billing psychologists, which I think is most of them.
Since my experience with psychologists is they are “partnered” with the religions, but also function as funnels to the psychiatrists … to cover up egregious crimes for the mainstream paternalistic religions.
Instead I must admit to being one of the “anti-psychiatrists,” who realize “that you cannot modify psychiatry; you must revolutionize it, you have to abolish it.” As any DSM “bible” billing, ethical psychologist should admit.
Since you can’t bill with an “invalid” psychiatric DSM “bible,” and be “divorced” from the “BS” of the DSM deluded psychiatric industry, psychologists.
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We really do need to end the psychiatric / psychologic DSM defamation and neurotoxic poisoning of all people … but especially of those still of childbearing age, and younger.
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“‘Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep in SSRI-exposed fetuses is an abnormal phenomenon, but its significance for postnatal development is unclear,’ the researchers concluded” … based upon what research?
Since from what I’ve read, I’m pretty certain REM sleep is very important. And you may be right about akathisia being the cause of “Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep,” which is not good either.
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Thank you for sharing your story. As I was reading it, it reminded me of what the “medical model” has as a deplorable goal, IMHO. The “medical model” is all about labeling people with their “life long incurable,” but “invalid,” DSM disorders, then neurotoxic poisoning their clients. And that satanic “medical model” is all about stealing hope from people, which I think is a deplorable goal.
Thanks again for sharing your inspiring story about how a non-money based model, that’s not about stealing hope, works so much better … albeit it’s not profitable. But shouldn’t we human beings be trying to help and care for one another anyway, not only for profit?
For goodness sakes, have you ever thought about the totally fraudulent aspect of the medical/pharmaceutical/insurance industrial complex’s payment system? A quick example, that hopefully will point out the fraud of it all.
I was handed an “art manager” contract by a psychologist who wanted me to pay him, to paint for him, while he “managed” me (via a ‘take a % of gross’ aspect of the contract), after I gave him total control of all my money (via the ‘conservatorship contract’ aspect of that thievery contract).
That’s actually the absurdity of how today’s US medical community charges the rest of us for their supposed “help.” In all honesty, it’s fraud.
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Are you Al, or AI? Perhaps my comment was not clear enough, regarding my lack of respect towards the entirety of the scientifically “invalid” “mental health” industries?
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Thank you, Rob, for pointing out that the psych industries are NOT the solution, and actually are a part of the problem. I agree housing first, would be a part of the solution.
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“Study Warns of Overreliance on Rapid Tranquillisation in Women’s Psychiatric Care.”
Yes, my medical records speak to this truth. My now FBI convicted, former doctor, is only a small part of a huge societal paternalistic problem.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/oak-brook-doctor-sentenced-two-years-prison-connection-kickback-scheme-sacred-heart
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I agree, psychological reductionism is staggeringly stupid, to the point it’s downright insane; and it is based upon the “chemical imbalance” lie. Honestly, the older psych “professionals” should be downright ashamed of themselves.
I mean, what is “professional” about now claiming to know nothing about the common adverse and withdrawal effects of the products one is selling / forcing others to purchase? There is nothing “professional” about that at all … and that comes from an honest sales professional, whose clients loved what I designed for them. Not that I didn’t turn a requested $2000 backsplash potential sale, into a $70,000 wainscoted laundry room sale, when I knew I was dealing with an extremely wealthy client.
It’s very important to know and respectfully understand one’s clients. I also had a not-too-wealthy client, who kept coming back to me, because I could design a backsplash and foyer floor, that combined the diamonds with the blue jeans (analogy), in a unique and beautiful manner.
I had to leave my psychiatrist, once I’d read all the misinformation he’d gotten from people who didn’t know me, instead of actually listening to me, written right in his medical records. And he did, very literally, declare the entirety of my life to be, “a credible fictional story” in his medical records … too insane for me, unprofessional “psych professionals.”
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I agree, denial of trauma by the so called “mental health professionals” is the problem, and I agree to some extent with No-one, too. Since I had to walk away from my husband’s highly dysfunctional family. And I won’t let any dysfunctional family, including a highly dysfunctional religious “family,” divide me from my real family, which is why I had to leave my childhood religion forever.
My mom was recently “hospitalized” for over two months, and her “religious family” never even came to visit her once. I think she got one card, from a friend of ours, within that highly dysfunctional “religious family.”
I agree with Steve’s comment below, “How anyone imagines that inducing a seizure through electrocution can be anything but harmful to the brain is truly beyond comprehension!”
So does that mean we “need more research funding” for ECT research? Or should we just – utilizing common sense – end ECT? I personally think the latter is the wiser approach. Especially given the intentional lack of research into ECT, by the well funded, but scientifically “invalid” psych industries, at this point.
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After reading this:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/meta-ai-chatbot-guidelines/
I ask, why are chatbots even legal at all?
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I don’t understand why, “According to the researchers here (and the researchers in other studies that similarly find patients don’t want their doctors to use AI), it’s the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI and ’emphasize its potential benefits’ to convince them to accept AI use:”
Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” Are the doctors now, not just the whores of big Pharma, but also whores of big Tech/AI, too?
“’From the physician’s perspective it thus may be important to transparently communicate the rationale for using AI and to emphasize its potential benefits for the patient,’ they write.”
“(Note: The researchers do not list any benefits in their article.)”
As one who knows AI is often wrong, I’ll ask again, Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” And what are the actual benefits of AI to the majority (your clients), doctors?
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Thank you for sharing your story/perspective, Jasmine. I agree, this is an important topic to discuss. As a fellow psych survivor, I can write my story as a hero’s journey story, that does not match any of the narratives you point out as the psych industries’ “narrative.”
“Exposition: Establish protagonist (main character), the afflicted,” would be me. A women who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, an ethical banker’s daughter, a “tailor who sings with the Lord,” singing “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion,” who hopes and prays we can all work our way towards healing … and eventually wisdom.
“Rising Action: Establish conflict: Symptom onset. Illness develops.” I will say distress, not “illness” developed, in my personal case … due to the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 … which was my personal “Rising Action.”
“Climax: Protagonist confronts their obstacle, seeking professional help and receiving a clinical diagnosis.”
I did this, was a compliant patient, and was slowly weaned off of the majority of the psych drugs by my psychiatrist by 2005. Because once I’d stop seeing a pathological lying psychologist, my psychiatrist concluded I’d been misdiagnosed by that non-medically trained psychologist, which, of course, was true (a misdiagnosis of brain zaps, which weren’t known to the psych industries as a common withdrawal symptom of antidepressant discontinuation syndrome until 2005, but which was blatant malpractice according to the DSM-IV-TR at the time, and still should be).
“Falling Action: Protagonist diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication, and starts to get better.”
Well, I did “diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication.” But no, repeated anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, made me much worse. However, I did start to get much better, as I was weaned off the anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings.
“Resolution: Full recovery! Victory!”
Well, not quite so simplistic … my “resolution”/”elixir” was getting off the psych drugs … but the withdrawal wasn’t at all easy, initially. And I did have to do a whole lot of research, and personal self healing. So I would say, I’m still on my healing journey, and will likely be my entire life, and I think I will spend my entire life working my way towards wisdom.
That’s not a bad thing, however I’m not certain it could be claimed to be “Full recovery! Victory!” either. But the Jungian psychologists do seem to see the wisdom of spending one’s life working their way towards wisdom. And hopefully, if we all collectively work our way towards wisdom, we can help heal humanity together. And that would be a true “Victory!”
Life’s a journey, a search for wisdom, for all of us.
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“Audre Lorde’s famous quote, ‘the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house,'” is a good quote. I’m glad the younger psychologists/couselors are garnering insight into the fact that the “master” is not the psychiatrists, and their “BS” DSM, nor yourselves. God save us all.
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Wow, this is largely a description of why I didn’t buy into the “chemical imbalance” deluded professional and peer movement, nor pay to go back to school to become one of them, when requested to, by “mental health professionals” of my ex-religion.
The entirety of today’s “mental heath professions” is about caste systems, and defaming those perceived as lower.
I have no interest in partaking in the stupidity of the “mental health” industry’s caste system. Instead, I’ll say, if you must partake in belief in a caste system, I’ll take my proper place, with my father, as a member of an ethical banking family … and, of course, the ethical banking families, who’ve actually been keeping track of the money, are going to be much wiser than the largely insane, unethical, money only worshipping, scientifically debunked DSM caste system deluded, “mental health professionals.”
I’m sorry you’ve dealt with such BS, Tim.
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I’ve been doing a lot of research lately into narcissism, which does describe most of my former “mental health professionals,” and their pastor and bishop “partners.”
And I will say, don’t bother waiting for an apology from the systemic narcissists. Since even if it ever does come, which it likely will not, it won’t be a genuine and sincerely given apology.
But as one who is a stickler for justice, who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, I do most definitely understand your frustration, Blu.
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I agree, big Pharma advertising needs to be made illegal again in the US.
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Not to mention, all us older generations were brainwashed to “trust your doctor.” So let’s hope the younger generations are not so brainwashed.
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Too cool, Derek. I hope this becomes a legal requirement for all doctors, if it technically isn’t already?
As a psychopharmacology researcher who found the medical evidence that the antipsychotics can create psychosis, and other “positive symptoms” of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome; as well as the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Please do include my medical research findings in the informed consent forms for the VA. And if you need a contact at the Cleveland VA, my son used to work there, and still has “Presidential managerial fellowship” friends who do still work there.
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I moved out of Illinois over a decade ago, so haven’t been keeping track of everything going on there in my waking hours. But any state to ban “AI therapists” is doing the right thing. AI is not ready for prime time, and a bad idea, in general.
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Please see my comment regarding the “schizophrenia” symptoms – and what can actually cause them – below, Marc. Now, of course iatrogenesis is not the only cause of the “schizophrenia” symptoms, but it may be the most common … not to dismiss your perspective, Marc … but I thought you should have that information.
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The antipsychotics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome. And they can create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxidrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroleptic-induced_deficit_syndrome
All doctors are supposedly taught this in med school.
Since false advertising is illegal, and given the magnitude of harm done with the antipsychotics, the anger is justified.
But thank you for your confession, Lydia.
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Your story made me cry, I’m sorry you dealt with a psychologist who harmed you, Catherine.
But I will say, in different ways, I found the DSM deluded psychologists, and gaslighting psychologists, to really be among the worst of all humans … on par, and in partnership with, the evil iatrogenic illness creators of the psychiatric industry.
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I’ve found both painting, and writing, to be helpful in healing from trauma. So I wouldn’t avoid getting the evil out, via your creative expression of choice, Yishay … get the evil out, so you may move on.
As I think I mentioned to you earlier, I do so hope we may soon end WWII for the Israelis. The never ending wars need to end … for all of us.
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I used to believe doctors and pastors were trustworthy, but the psych industries taught me to neither trust in, nor even automatically respect, any now working within the “two original educated professions.”
I agree, “Oftentimes in psychiatric settings, the voice of service-users is not heard ….” But the fact the psych professionals don’t listen to, or “not believed by doctor” what their clients say, is what allowed me to escape … once I was handed over all the BS and lies written into their medical records.
No one will ever believe their entire life is “a credible fictional story,” lunatics of the psych industries, who don’t know how to listen, nor treat others in a mutually respectful manner.
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We do have a DSM deluded, psychological and psychiatric, narcissist, and/or psychopathic, problem within society.
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How do you know how your son actually feels, julie, as opposed to just what he tells you? Being on the antipsychotics long term is quite detrimental to one’s health.
So perhaps it’d be wiser to trust in your son’s hard earned wisdom, “to come off his medication to try feel better?” Albeit, I can’t say that will be easy … and a very slow taper is recommended.
I don’t mean any offense, julie, and of course I don’t know anything about your family’s personal situation. I’m just speaking as a mother to another mother. But with a reminder that the job of a mother is eventually to respect their children to make their own decisions, so they may become who they are meant to be.
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“I’m not sure if I adequately conveyed here what it felt like to sit with this family.” I think you did a beautiful job, Amy. I can’t say I’ve ever even been slightly “triggered” by reading any other blog on MiA, but I somewhat did with your case story.
Now I must admit I tend to listen to youtube talks, when I read many MiA blogs, and I have been listening to a number of talks on narcissism lately, since I did deal with a lot of people who behaved as complete narcissists in my life … like this video discusses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yarVkSqWc4I
And your blog reminded me of all the narcissists with whom I’ve had the misfortune of dealing, including my former husband’s highly dysfunctional family, and my former highly dysfunctional religious “family” … largely due to their faustian “partnership” with the DSM deluded.
“The invisible rules mandating conformity in all things felt intense and oppressive.”
The debunked DSM deluded should garner insight into this wisdom. Today, everyone who doesn’t believe in the debunked DSM, or the chemical imbalance lie, is suffering from “anosognosia.” No, the debunked DSM deluded are the one’s in denial of the truth.
“My approach to diagnosis includes both observation of family interactional patterns and my experience of being with a family, testing both for points of rigidity and of flexibility. By flexibility I mean self-questioning, imagination, curiosity. The more flexibility, in general, the more health.”
Hint, hint, DSM “bible” billers. Wake up, your DSM “bible” was claimed to be “invalid” in 2013, by the head of the NIMH. It’s long past time to stop defaming all who don’t believe in your “bullish-t,” to have “anosognosia.”
“This story illustrates the sharp contrast between treating a mental disturbance as a relationship problem instead of [a] question of faulty brain chemistry.”
I agree. I’m glad you were able to actually help Melanie, Amy. The “faulty brain chemistry” DSM deluded are the unwise – distress is caused by distressing events and/or interpersonal issues, not “faulty brain chemistry.”
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It’s interesting that this study was published by globalist bankers, and an organization that is “known for promoting personal and economic liberty, free enterprise, and limited government” – as opposed to in a medical journal – I will say, as a small American banker’s daughter, who has been speaking out against psychiatric fraud, criminality, and greed, for well over a decade.
Of course, “Forced Hospitalization Increases Suicide and Violent Crime” … welcome to the common sense.
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The Cleveland Clinic hands over medical records of their patients – with the given diagnoses, or lack there of – at the time of payment, or lack thereof. That’s what all doctors should do, including the psych “professionals.”
At least that was my experience with a good doctor at the Cleveland Clinic, albeit I can’t say there aren’t bad psychiatrists there as well, since I did run into one of them too. Thankfully it only took mentioning I was allergic to the anticholinergic drugs to quickly scare him off ….
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No one has commented on this blog in a couple days, so I’ll pose the question again, aside from wanting to maintain undeserved power they do NOT deserve, why do “Mental Health Workers Say They Want Recovery-Oriented Care?” And “Still Endorse Involuntary Treatment?”
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“So, far from being unusually low, Oregon’s rate of psychiatric incarcerations of about 8,000 annually, or 190 incarcerations per 100,000 people, is near the national median.
“And that’s nearly double the UK rate and far higher than most comparable European countries.”
Isn’t that evidence of the systemic crimes of today’s “BS” US psych industries?
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I agree.
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As one who had a brother who was a philosophy major, who is thus also a “philosophically informed critic,” who has, “raised fundamental questions about the assumptions underlying neuroscience research and challenged dominant models in psychiatry,” yada yada….
I agree, reintegrating “philosophical reflection into mental health education and practice,” is needed.
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As one who insanely had all the “distress” of 9/11/2001, when I was picking up my psychologist’s medical records, blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is completely insane.
I’ll say, give Viviane a little credit, she’s very young, and has probably been grotesquely miseducated. And we do need to address the bad societal systems, which with we’re all dealing.
But I will say, Viviane, you have likely bought into a bad, paternalistic, system … since that’s what the DSM deluded psych industries are.
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Wow, this is a damning report, thank you, Rob.
As one who has recently researched into narcissism, who dealt (and hopefully is no longer dealing, but I don’t yet know for certain) with a narcissist psychologist.
I will forewarn all psych survivors, about the narcissistic – and downright criminal – behaviors of the now scientifically debunked DSM deluded “psych professionals.”
Mind Freedom, I will try to get our donation to you soon, thank you for all you do.
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“That psychologist wrote down the abuse. He acknowledged the physical attacks, abandonment, and psychological chaos I lived in. And then he concluded that my trauma wasn’t relevant, that my ‘developmental history was not contributory.’ That sentence became a badge my mother wore like armor, showing it to anyone who questioned her. It told the world that I was just a bad kid, and it let her off the hook.”
Pardon my disgust at the psych industries, since covering up child abuse is technically illegal, but it is the primary societal function of the scientifically fraud based psych industries today.
I’m pretty certain ODD only became a DSM diagnosis, when the “childhood bipolar epidemic” started to become an embarrassment to the DSM debunked “mental health industries.”
“Diagnosis should be a bridge to healing, not a life sentence based on a single misjudged moment.” I agree.
And the DSM “diagnoses,” which were confessed to be “bullshit,” by Allen Frances who was the primary editor of the DSM, in I think 2010, is the truth.
Respect for the “invalid” DSM deluded psychiatrists, et al, should end.
By the way, no “mental health” worker may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … to this day … and it’s all by DSM design.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1
God bless, Melina, keep speaking your truth, and doing the right thing.
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“Perhaps it is the oppressors that are insane.” Or at least the bad systems, and corporations, through which they work. Someone’s gotta say it, right, Viviane?
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Interesting, but that history only points out a big – sin, crime, whatever you want to call it – of the US psychological community.
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Gosh, the psych industries are now telling the Harvard trained lawyers, who speak common sense, that they are the insane ones. How insane can our, shouldn’t be controlled by the psych industries’, society get?
I agree, Jim, “the solution for people without housing is housing.” It breaks my heart when I meet homeless people. I try to help them. There was a homeless woman who was dropped off in a park I frequent recently, by a church that was claiming to help her. She was sweet as pie.
But, the park rangers weren’t going to let her stay there, and both she and I knew it. And it was a park not near to anyone she knew was trying to help her, nor even close to an air conditioned place she could go to escape the extreme heat we’ve been experiencing this summer.
And I think both she and I knew she was possibly on the verge of heat stroke, and I’ve seen what heat stroke can do to a person, and I certainly didn’t want to see that happen to her.
So I drove her to the local library for the day, to cool off, then drove her back to the neighborhood she knew, and had churches that were supposedly trying to help her. Since I’m currently largely without a church or religion, who should have helped her, in my current suburb.
Sometimes, you have to do the best you can, given your current circumstances. I hope Bridget has found a home, and is okay. Let’s please pray to just house the homeless, without the psych industry’s BS.
Much to my claims to Bridget that no financial reparations were expected, nor needed. Bridget insisted on buying me a new pair of flip flops, as a thank you.
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Yes, the wrong “people” (shame on those delusional lawyers, who think people are corporations, and corporations are people) are in charge.
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When I was in kindergarten, my mom ran a math lab at my school. I can’t really say she taught me about “sacred geometry,” since I taught her about that … but in a way she did.
But when we taught a bunch of underprivileged children, who initially “hated math,” about “sacred geometry” in a fun and creative manner, in the S.T.E.A.M. program we were running. I will say those children learned to utilize the creative side of their brains, and did come back telling us they now loved math.
Every elementary school should be teaching training into love of the sciences, technology, engineering, and mathematics, via the arts initially. Since children love learning, by making and creating … and should the love of learning, making, and creating ever really end, for any of us?
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Oh, one other topic that I thought about recently, which I’ve not yet seen discussed here, but think it should be. Is the fact that the US is supposed to have separation of church and state.
But since both the religions and the state have social workers … that means we don’t have separation of church and state (not to the mention the 501c3 issue). But that is one other large systemic crime of the “mental health” industries, at least in the US.
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I’ve never said the West is “the only place where these things are crazy.”
“I don’t see ‘getting rid’ of the systems as an option.” Why not? Have you ever really thought about it? Maybe, as I believe, the “systems” are too corrupted, and by design, to bother even trying to fix?
The psych industries are just one large instance. For example, by DSM design, no “mental health professional” to this day, may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … since that is missing from their debunked DSM billing code “bible.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1
Perhaps, some “systems” are too paternalistically designed, and for evil intent, like systemically covering up child abuse, to even bother trying to reform.
But, psychiatry would have to clean up the societal mess which they’ve created, which will take time. So a bad paternalistic “system,” like the “mental health system,” IMHO, should be weaned out of existence.
I’m not a believer in the concept God created “mental illness.” But as a psychopharmacology researcher, I do know the psychiatrists and other MDs do, with the psych drugs.
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“The elites have a lot of power, and they use it to protect themselves.” And they utilize today’s “mental health” industries to do this for them.
“We all already know that our political and social systems are basically insane. The ‘mental health system’ should be working to fix that, but it isn’t. That is our challenge.”
I agree, we need to get rid of Western civilization’s “insane” “political and social systems” … today’s “insane” societal problems are basically the same problematic industries, as Jesus spoke out against over 2000 years ago … +psychiatry and psychology, et al.
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Psych drugging our children should completely end. For God’s sake, how is it that our society has multiple industries, which think grown adults should be defaming innocent young children, with scientifically “invalid” DSM disorders / “life long, incurable, genetic mental illnesses” … for life? That is disgusting.
In relation to discussing the education system … I as one, who attended one of NY’s best public school systems, back in the early 1970’s; and has experience with both the public and private school systems; and has run art and S.T.E.A.M. programs … I most certainly want to be a part of how to improve the schools.
And, there’s a lot of changes that need to be made, but I’m pretty certain we’ve all already dreamt up how to best fix them. Let’s hope and pray.
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Thank you for the link / links, Jim and psych rights. Thank you for your research, Leah.
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Thank you, Mohamed, for standing with us.
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“anachronistic,” is a totally inappropriate term to use … given the fact we are trying to end today’s totalitarian, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billing system.
And bring about “participatory research [models that are built] on a growing body of scholarship and advocacy that challenges traditional hierarchies in mental health research and calls for centering lived experience in knowledge production. The findings also align with research on how community participation can address the limitations of traditional psychiatric research models by recognizing individuals with lived experience as co-creators of knowledge.”
For God’s sake, why would a psych “professional,” who has never taken a psych med,” know more about the psych “meds,” than a person who has been on them? They wouldn’t, and they don’t.
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“Good science wants to move us closer to truth, and understands that even being proven wrong is a step forward.”
So the so called “mental health professionals,” whose DSM “bible” was debunked as “invalid” in 2013, need to garner insight into reality.
“No doubt science is not the only way we know things. Some things we know using logic. Some things we intuit or just have a feeling about. Some things we’re taught and we accept them as knowledge. Some things we can know using our five senses. Some may come from religious training.”
So the Holy Spiritual blasphemers of the “mental health industries” may want to repent, and change from their “unforgivable” ways?
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“In Libya, psychiatric care — whether public or private — is often built on coercion, not compassion.”
The same is true in the US.
“I was never violent. Never suicidal. Never detached from reality. I was fighting something far more dangerous than madness — I was fighting a culture of fear and suppression masquerading as mental health care.”
I was never any of those things either. But it is rather sick, now that the psych industries have been found to be “invalid,” how desperate they’ve become.
I do appreciate the MDs who are speaking out against the insanity of the debunked psych industries. Thank you, Mohamed.
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This blog largely points out the impropriety of psychologists functioning as funnels into the force drugging psychiatric industry, and why they shouldn’t be doing that. Not to mention, why neither the psychologic nor psychiatric industries should have a right to coerce or force neurotoxic poison anyone.
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My gut is that AI is NOT ready for prime time, too. Certainly, it should NOT be used to regurgitate psychiatry’s many lies / misinformation.
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No offense, Richard, but psychiatry is an iatrogenic illness creation Ponzi scheme. The ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” and “schizophrenia” symptoms. And the antipsychotics can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
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“‘Social prescribing’ has been presented as an effective strategy to mitigate the impact of the social determinants of health. These include referring individuals to art classes, physical activity, or other community alternatives to therapy and medication that help them connect with others and build communities.”
Well, I’m rather new to the concept of “social prescribing.” But after having antidepressant withdrawal induced brain zaps being misdiagnosed as “bipolar, just after 9.11.2001. And having all distress from 9/11 being blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone. By a manic lunatic psychologist, who’d gotten all her misinformation about me from her pastor, and a child abuser’s wife, rather than listening to my legitimate societal concerns.
I will say, art is good therapy, when one is being unjustly attacked, by a crazy DSM deluded, big Pharma forcing, psychologist. Regular, moderate exercise, in nature, was also a key in my healing journey, as was lots of other volunteer community service (for example, I was a planning commissioner of my Village.)
“Another study linked psychosis to poverty, housing and employment instability, and racism. Research has found that due to the disparities associated with psychosis, it cannot be separated from structural racism and social inequality.”
Neither can the psych industries’ forced druggings with the anticholinergic drugs, since all MD’s are taught in med school that the anticholinergic drugs (like the antidepressants and antipsychotics) can create psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome.
But I will agree, once one escapes the evil of psychological and psychiatric anticholinergic toxidrome attempted murders, one is then faced with systemic, attempted financial destruction, and shitloads of thievery, and attempted thievery.
“Critical psychologists have cautioned about how the practice of addressing social determinants of health is being approached. This is due to many turning social factors into individual issues, when there is a blatant need to address our society’s problems instead.”
Wake up to reality, DSM deluded psych lunatics, please … your DSM “bible” was debunked in 2013.
“In a previous study, mental health providers were found to endorse right-wing authoritarianism and ignore the needs of the hypothetical person for whom they were referred for treatment.”
Well, as one who was “referred for treatment” to a lunatic psychologist, instead of a medical doctor, as I requested, by an assh-le pastor, I will say this is not the problem.
But us “hypothetical” people are real, not “fictional,” as my medical records wrongly state.
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Haven’t we all “lived through madness and distress” already? For goodness sake, Covid was societal madness, so was 9/11/01, and both were legitimately distressing. No doubt, it’s past time for the psych industries to take a long hard look in the mirror … and come towards understanding the hard truth … it’s past time for big change, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billers.
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“’What is Reality?’ is a deep and profound question that has not been answered by Psychiatry. That answer needs to be answered first before condemning someone to being ‘not in touch with reality.’”
Good point, Consciousness. I like your pseudonym, by the way.
“Your perception is your reality. At the same time, we do Not define other people’s realities.” I agree, that’s a pretty good definition of reality. “… Don’t let someone else define your reality.”
But that is exactly what, I think it was all, of the “mental health professionals” that I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with did, or tried to do … you should read the thievery/conservatorship contract a psychologist handed me. Talk about a control freak nut job!
And what was even sicker was he had hacked into my computer, and was literally following me on the internet for years (after I’d reported him to the police once), talk about the epitome of creepy … not to mention downright criminal. Plus, Google told me he had set up a website, utilizing my name and one of my emails, apparently so he could try to gaslight me from within my own computer, and rewrite my life’s story, I would imagine? Creepy!
MiA, “This content is restricted to buyers of .”??? Is there more?
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I’m so very grateful to the honest British psychologists, especially you, John Read. Since the American psychologists, that I’ve had the misfortune of being confronted by, “want to maintain the status quo” – which is misdiagnosing the common withdrawal effects of the antidepressants as bipolar – which leads one into a very literal, drug induced, living hell.
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The staggering magnitude of harm, that the “mental health” industries are doing … especially to our children … is horrendous.
As one who has a really sweet love story in my dreams, that I am not just the “bad,” or good truth telling, mother of my own children … but a truth teller to all of the younger generations.
Tonight, I took a walk to my local convenience store, to buy stuff I shouldn’t be eating. But it was kind of cute that there were a bunch of high school aged young men, who were playing outside and stopped playing when they saw me … and they led me safely towards my local convince store. So the sweet love story of my dreams seemingly also exists in my waking hours … at least I hope and pray.
Thank you, Mr. Whitaker, for your continued truth telling … let’s save all the children … from the systemic harms of the scientifically “invalid,” DSM “bible” billing, industries.
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“Trauma is subjective. It can shift with support, insight, and reframing. Its healing lies in meaning-making.
“Personal abuse is objective. It involves wrongdoing, moral breach, and requires truth-telling and repair.
“Systemic abuse blends the two. It distorts trauma to hide abuse and uses institutional power to deny both.”
Beautiful synopsis of the “mental health” industries’ systemic abuse, Maram. And it’s all by DSM design, since no DSM “bible” biller today, may ever bill for ethically and truthfully helping any child abuse survivor ever.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1
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“The authors explain” … “they hope that it can inspire people to think differently and more broadly about some of the taken-for-granted assumptions and principles underlying much of what goes on in the psy-disciplines.”
Yes, “when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.” Please stop assuming you are the judges of all innocent people on the planet, “mental health professionals.” Since you are NOT, God is the judge of all, including you.
Thank you for pointing these rather blatantly obvious sins of the “mental health” industries, Micah.
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“Is it time to consider the possibility that the entire field is a failed enterprise, a wrong turn in human history?” Indeed, I think it is. Thank you for this well written blog, Patrick.
And that comes from a decades long psychopharmacology researcher, and innocent, but formerly well insured person, who had the misfortune of dealing with both political and criminal abuse of the scientifically “invalid” psych industries … so they could cover up a “bad fix” on a broken bone for incompetent doctors, and medical evidence of the abuse of my three year old child for a pastor … two illegal activities.
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Great comments, my friends. And thank you, as always, for your truth telling, Dr. Peter Gøtzsche.
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“The fear that citizens suffer of being interned in an asylum turns all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized into terrorist states that have built a “chemical apartheid” for abnormal people.”
Well, I would say too many artists (instead of “abnormal people”) especially the visual artists, since “a picture paints a thousand words,” so a bunch of pictures about psychiatric harms, tells a damning story about the systemic crimes of both the psychological and psychiatric system (you may see a few of my pieces here, under the art section).
Marc Chagall painted the psychiatric / Spiritual war against the Jews, decades ago. And as a “Chicago Chagall,” I took a lot of inspiration from his work, and I painted the Spiritual / psychiatric and psychological crimes being committed against the American population today.
So I agree with you, “all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized [are] terrorist states.”
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It is “way past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers.
For goodness sake, to the “mental health professionals’,” who are still claiming ignorance, of the fact that their DSM “bible” was debunked as “bulls-t” and “invalid” long ago. It is not time to “maintain the status quo.” Stealing from the widows in a church, that you don’t even attend, but you are unethically “partnered” with, is unacceptable human behavior. Proclaiming “all mosaic art is bad public art,” to steal a person’s time, defame their art form, and to prevent an artist in the church you are unethically “partnered” with from getting an art grant, is thievery of my time, insane, unethical, and morally wrong … and unacceptable human behavior.
It is long “past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers. Flush your DSM, if you don’t, you are the insane people, among the .05% of the population, that may not be staying on this planet.
God is sick and tired of the DSM deluded, mass murdering, psych “professions” repeating the worst of history … over and over again.
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What is “far above” your “expectations in terms of chat quality?” And, out of curiosity, what language do you speak, and where are you from?
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NPR should be defunded, if it doesn’t report on subjects like psychiatry’s debacles, like this report does. So thank you, NPR, for reporting the truth.
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Yes, all of societies’ ills result from the love of “MONEY,” and the Ponzi scheme of the usury based banking systems, that create money out of nothing. Jesus forewarned us of this problem, over 2000 years ago.
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