We really do need to end the psychiatric / psychologic DSM defamation and neurotoxic poisoning of all people … but especially of those still of childbearing age, and younger.
“‘Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep in SSRI-exposed fetuses is an abnormal phenomenon, but its significance for postnatal development is unclear,’ the researchers concluded” … based upon what research?
Since from what I’ve read, I’m pretty certain REM sleep is very important. And you may be right about akathisia being the cause of “Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep,” which is not good either.
Thank you for sharing your story. As I was reading it, it reminded me of what the “medical model” has as a deplorable goal, IMHO. The “medical model” is all about labeling people with their “life long incurable,” but “invalid,” DSM disorders, then neurotoxic poisoning their clients. And that satanic “medical model” is all about stealing hope from people, which I think is a deplorable goal.
Thanks again for sharing your inspiring story about how a non-money based model, that’s not about stealing hope, works so much better … albeit it’s not profitable. But shouldn’t we human beings be trying to help and care for one another anyway, not only for profit?
For goodness sakes, have you ever thought about the totally fraudulent aspect of the medical/pharmaceutical/insurance industrial complex’s payment system? A quick example, that hopefully will point out the fraud of it all.
I was handed an “art manager” contract by a psychologist who wanted me to pay him, to paint for him, while he “managed” me (via a ‘take a % of gross’ aspect of the contract), after I gave him total control of all my money (via the ‘conservatorship contract’ aspect of that thievery contract).
That’s actually the absurdity of how today’s US medical community charges the rest of us for their supposed “help.” In all honesty, it’s fraud.
Are you Al, or AI? Perhaps my comment was not clear enough, regarding my lack of respect towards the entirety of the scientifically “invalid” “mental health” industries?
Thank you, Rob, for pointing out that the psych industries are NOT the solution, and actually are a part of the problem. I agree housing first, would be a part of the solution.
I agree, psychological reductionism is staggeringly stupid, to the point it’s downright insane; and it is based upon the “chemical imbalance” lie. Honestly, the older psych “professionals” should be downright ashamed of themselves.
I mean, what is “professional” about now claiming to know nothing about the common adverse and withdrawal effects of the products one is selling / forcing others to purchase? There is nothing “professional” about that at all … and that comes from an honest sales professional, whose clients loved what I designed for them. Not that I didn’t turn a requested $2000 backsplash potential sale, into a $70,000 wainscoted laundry room sale, when I knew I was dealing with an extremely wealthy client.
It’s very important to know and respectfully understand one’s clients. I also had a not-too-wealthy client, who kept coming back to me, because I could design a backsplash and foyer floor, that combined the diamonds with the blue jeans (analogy), in a unique and beautiful manner.
I had to leave my psychiatrist, once I’d read all the misinformation he’d gotten from people who didn’t know me, instead of actually listening to me, written right in his medical records. And he did, very literally, declare the entirety of my life to be, “a credible fictional story” in his medical records … too insane for me, unprofessional “psych professionals.”
I agree, denial of trauma by the so called “mental health professionals” is the problem, and I agree to some extent with No-one, too. Since I had to walk away from my husband’s highly dysfunctional family. And I won’t let any dysfunctional family, including a highly dysfunctional religious “family,” divide me from my real family, which is why I had to leave my childhood religion forever.
My mom was recently “hospitalized” for over two months, and her “religious family” never even came to visit her once. I think she got one card, from a friend of ours, within that highly dysfunctional “religious family.”
I agree with Steve’s comment below, “How anyone imagines that inducing a seizure through electrocution can be anything but harmful to the brain is truly beyond comprehension!”
So does that mean we “need more research funding” for ECT research? Or should we just – utilizing common sense – end ECT? I personally think the latter is the wiser approach. Especially given the intentional lack of research into ECT, by the well funded, but scientifically “invalid” psych industries, at this point.
I don’t understand why, “According to the researchers here (and the researchers in other studies that similarly find patients don’t want their doctors to use AI), it’s the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI and ’emphasize its potential benefits’ to convince them to accept AI use:”
Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” Are the doctors now, not just the whores of big Pharma, but also whores of big Tech/AI, too?
“’From the physician’s perspective it thus may be important to transparently communicate the rationale for using AI and to emphasize its potential benefits for the patient,’ they write.”
“(Note: The researchers do not list any benefits in their article.)”
As one who knows AI is often wrong, I’ll ask again, Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” And what are the actual benefits of AI to the majority (your clients), doctors?
Thank you for sharing your story/perspective, Jasmine. I agree, this is an important topic to discuss. As a fellow psych survivor, I can write my story as a hero’s journey story, that does not match any of the narratives you point out as the psych industries’ “narrative.”
“Exposition: Establish protagonist (main character), the afflicted,” would be me. A women who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, an ethical banker’s daughter, a “tailor who sings with the Lord,” singing “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion,” who hopes and prays we can all work our way towards healing … and eventually wisdom.
“Rising Action: Establish conflict: Symptom onset. Illness develops.” I will say distress, not “illness” developed, in my personal case … due to the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 … which was my personal “Rising Action.”
“Climax: Protagonist confronts their obstacle, seeking professional help and receiving a clinical diagnosis.”
I did this, was a compliant patient, and was slowly weaned off of the majority of the psych drugs by my psychiatrist by 2005. Because once I’d stop seeing a pathological lying psychologist, my psychiatrist concluded I’d been misdiagnosed by that non-medically trained psychologist, which, of course, was true (a misdiagnosis of brain zaps, which weren’t known to the psych industries as a common withdrawal symptom of antidepressant discontinuation syndrome until 2005, but which was blatant malpractice according to the DSM-IV-TR at the time, and still should be).
“Falling Action: Protagonist diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication, and starts to get better.”
Well, I did “diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication.” But no, repeated anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, made me much worse. However, I did start to get much better, as I was weaned off the anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings.
“Resolution: Full recovery! Victory!”
Well, not quite so simplistic … my “resolution”/”elixir” was getting off the psych drugs … but the withdrawal wasn’t at all easy, initially. And I did have to do a whole lot of research, and personal self healing. So I would say, I’m still on my healing journey, and will likely be my entire life, and I think I will spend my entire life working my way towards wisdom.
That’s not a bad thing, however I’m not certain it could be claimed to be “Full recovery! Victory!” either. But the Jungian psychologists do seem to see the wisdom of spending one’s life working their way towards wisdom. And hopefully, if we all collectively work our way towards wisdom, we can help heal humanity together. And that would be a true “Victory!”
Life’s a journey, a search for wisdom, for all of us.
“Audre Lorde’s famous quote, ‘the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house,'” is a good quote. I’m glad the younger psychologists/couselors are garnering insight into the fact that the “master” is not the psychiatrists, and their “BS” DSM, nor yourselves. God save us all.
Wow, this is largely a description of why I didn’t buy into the “chemical imbalance” deluded professional and peer movement, nor pay to go back to school to become one of them, when requested to, by “mental health professionals” of my ex-religion.
The entirety of today’s “mental heath professions” is about caste systems, and defaming those perceived as lower.
I have no interest in partaking in the stupidity of the “mental health” industry’s caste system. Instead, I’ll say, if you must partake in belief in a caste system, I’ll take my proper place, with my father, as a member of an ethical banking family … and, of course, the ethical banking families, who’ve actually been keeping track of the money, are going to be much wiser than the largely insane, unethical, money only worshipping, scientifically debunked DSM caste system deluded, “mental health professionals.”
I’ve been doing a lot of research lately into narcissism, which does describe most of my former “mental health professionals,” and their pastor and bishop “partners.”
And I will say, don’t bother waiting for an apology from the systemic narcissists. Since even if it ever does come, which it likely will not, it won’t be a genuine and sincerely given apology.
But as one who is a stickler for justice, who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, I do most definitely understand your frustration, Blu.
Too cool, Derek. I hope this becomes a legal requirement for all doctors, if it technically isn’t already?
As a psychopharmacology researcher who found the medical evidence that the antipsychotics can create psychosis, and other “positive symptoms” of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome; as well as the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Please do include my medical research findings in the informed consent forms for the VA. And if you need a contact at the Cleveland VA, my son used to work there, and still has “Presidential managerial fellowship” friends who do still work there.
I moved out of Illinois over a decade ago, so haven’t been keeping track of everything going on there in my waking hours. But any state to ban “AI therapists” is doing the right thing. AI is not ready for prime time, and a bad idea, in general.
Please see my comment regarding the “schizophrenia” symptoms – and what can actually cause them – below, Marc. Now, of course iatrogenesis is not the only cause of the “schizophrenia” symptoms, but it may be the most common … not to dismiss your perspective, Marc … but I thought you should have that information.
The antipsychotics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome. And they can create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Your story made me cry, I’m sorry you dealt with a psychologist who harmed you, Catherine.
But I will say, in different ways, I found the DSM deluded psychologists, and gaslighting psychologists, to really be among the worst of all humans … on par, and in partnership with, the evil iatrogenic illness creators of the psychiatric industry.
I’ve found both painting, and writing, to be helpful in healing from trauma. So I wouldn’t avoid getting the evil out, via your creative expression of choice, Yishay … get the evil out, so you may move on.
As I think I mentioned to you earlier, I do so hope we may soon end WWII for the Israelis. The never ending wars need to end … for all of us.
I used to believe doctors and pastors were trustworthy, but the psych industries taught me to neither trust in, nor even automatically respect, any now working within the “two original educated professions.”
I agree, “Oftentimes in psychiatric settings, the voice of service-users is not heard ….” But the fact the psych professionals don’t listen to, or “not believed by doctor” what their clients say, is what allowed me to escape … once I was handed over all the BS and lies written into their medical records.
No one will ever believe their entire life is “a credible fictional story,” lunatics of the psych industries, who don’t know how to listen, nor treat others in a mutually respectful manner.
How do you know how your son actually feels, julie, as opposed to just what he tells you? Being on the antipsychotics long term is quite detrimental to one’s health.
So perhaps it’d be wiser to trust in your son’s hard earned wisdom, “to come off his medication to try feel better?” Albeit, I can’t say that will be easy … and a very slow taper is recommended.
I don’t mean any offense, julie, and of course I don’t know anything about your family’s personal situation. I’m just speaking as a mother to another mother. But with a reminder that the job of a mother is eventually to respect their children to make their own decisions, so they may become who they are meant to be.
“I’m not sure if I adequately conveyed here what it felt like to sit with this family.” I think you did a beautiful job, Amy. I can’t say I’ve ever even been slightly “triggered” by reading any other blog on MiA, but I somewhat did with your case story.
Now I must admit I tend to listen to youtube talks, when I read many MiA blogs, and I have been listening to a number of talks on narcissism lately, since I did deal with a lot of people who behaved as complete narcissists in my life … like this video discusses.
And your blog reminded me of all the narcissists with whom I’ve had the misfortune of dealing, including my former husband’s highly dysfunctional family, and my former highly dysfunctional religious “family” … largely due to their faustian “partnership” with the DSM deluded.
“The invisible rules mandating conformity in all things felt intense and oppressive.”
The debunked DSM deluded should garner insight into this wisdom. Today, everyone who doesn’t believe in the debunked DSM, or the chemical imbalance lie, is suffering from “anosognosia.” No, the debunked DSM deluded are the one’s in denial of the truth.
“My approach to diagnosis includes both observation of family interactional patterns and my experience of being with a family, testing both for points of rigidity and of flexibility. By flexibility I mean self-questioning, imagination, curiosity. The more flexibility, in general, the more health.”
Hint, hint, DSM “bible” billers. Wake up, your DSM “bible” was claimed to be “invalid” in 2013, by the head of the NIMH. It’s long past time to stop defaming all who don’t believe in your “bullish-t,” to have “anosognosia.”
“This story illustrates the sharp contrast between treating a mental disturbance as a relationship problem instead of [a] question of faulty brain chemistry.”
I agree. I’m glad you were able to actually help Melanie, Amy. The “faulty brain chemistry” DSM deluded are the unwise – distress is caused by distressing events and/or interpersonal issues, not “faulty brain chemistry.”
It’s interesting that this study was published by globalist bankers, and an organization that is “known for promoting personal and economic liberty, free enterprise, and limited government” – as opposed to in a medical journal – I will say, as a small American banker’s daughter, who has been speaking out against psychiatric fraud, criminality, and greed, for well over a decade.
Of course, “Forced Hospitalization Increases Suicide and Violent Crime” … welcome to the common sense.
The Cleveland Clinic hands over medical records of their patients – with the given diagnoses, or lack there of – at the time of payment, or lack thereof. That’s what all doctors should do, including the psych “professionals.”
At least that was my experience with a good doctor at the Cleveland Clinic, albeit I can’t say there aren’t bad psychiatrists there as well, since I did run into one of them too. Thankfully it only took mentioning I was allergic to the anticholinergic drugs to quickly scare him off ….
No one has commented on this blog in a couple days, so I’ll pose the question again, aside from wanting to maintain undeserved power they do NOT deserve, why do “Mental Health Workers Say They Want Recovery-Oriented Care?” And “Still Endorse Involuntary Treatment?”
“So, far from being unusually low, Oregon’s rate of psychiatric incarcerations of about 8,000 annually, or 190 incarcerations per 100,000 people, is near the national median.
“And that’s nearly double the UK rate and far higher than most comparable European countries.”
Isn’t that evidence of the systemic crimes of today’s “BS” US psych industries?
As one who had a brother who was a philosophy major, who is thus also a “philosophically informed critic,” who has, “raised fundamental questions about the assumptions underlying neuroscience research and challenged dominant models in psychiatry,” yada yada….
I agree, reintegrating “philosophical reflection into mental health education and practice,” is needed.
As one who insanely had all the “distress” of 9/11/2001, when I was picking up my psychologist’s medical records, blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is completely insane.
I’ll say, give Viviane a little credit, she’s very young, and has probably been grotesquely miseducated. And we do need to address the bad societal systems, which with we’re all dealing.
But I will say, Viviane, you have likely bought into a bad, paternalistic, system … since that’s what the DSM deluded psych industries are.
As one who has recently researched into narcissism, who dealt (and hopefully is no longer dealing, but I don’t yet know for certain) with a narcissist psychologist.
I will forewarn all psych survivors, about the narcissistic – and downright criminal – behaviors of the now scientifically debunked DSM deluded “psych professionals.”
Mind Freedom, I will try to get our donation to you soon, thank you for all you do.
“That psychologist wrote down the abuse. He acknowledged the physical attacks, abandonment, and psychological chaos I lived in. And then he concluded that my trauma wasn’t relevant, that my ‘developmental history was not contributory.’ That sentence became a badge my mother wore like armor, showing it to anyone who questioned her. It told the world that I was just a bad kid, and it let her off the hook.”
Pardon my disgust at the psych industries, since covering up child abuse is technically illegal, but it is the primary societal function of the scientifically fraud based psych industries today.
I’m pretty certain ODD only became a DSM diagnosis, when the “childhood bipolar epidemic” started to become an embarrassment to the DSM debunked “mental health industries.”
“Diagnosis should be a bridge to healing, not a life sentence based on a single misjudged moment.” I agree.
And the DSM “diagnoses,” which were confessed to be “bullshit,” by Allen Frances who was the primary editor of the DSM, in I think 2010, is the truth.
Respect for the “invalid” DSM deluded psychiatrists, et al, should end.
By the way, no “mental health” worker may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … to this day … and it’s all by DSM design.
“Perhaps it is the oppressors that are insane.” Or at least the bad systems, and corporations, through which they work. Someone’s gotta say it, right, Viviane?
Gosh, the psych industries are now telling the Harvard trained lawyers, who speak common sense, that they are the insane ones. How insane can our, shouldn’t be controlled by the psych industries’, society get?
I agree, Jim, “the solution for people without housing is housing.” It breaks my heart when I meet homeless people. I try to help them. There was a homeless woman who was dropped off in a park I frequent recently, by a church that was claiming to help her. She was sweet as pie.
But, the park rangers weren’t going to let her stay there, and both she and I knew it. And it was a park not near to anyone she knew was trying to help her, nor even close to an air conditioned place she could go to escape the extreme heat we’ve been experiencing this summer.
And I think both she and I knew she was possibly on the verge of heat stroke, and I’ve seen what heat stroke can do to a person, and I certainly didn’t want to see that happen to her.
So I drove her to the local library for the day, to cool off, then drove her back to the neighborhood she knew, and had churches that were supposedly trying to help her. Since I’m currently largely without a church or religion, who should have helped her, in my current suburb.
Sometimes, you have to do the best you can, given your current circumstances. I hope Bridget has found a home, and is okay. Let’s please pray to just house the homeless, without the psych industry’s BS.
Much to my claims to Bridget that no financial reparations were expected, nor needed. Bridget insisted on buying me a new pair of flip flops, as a thank you.
When I was in kindergarten, my mom ran a math lab at my school. I can’t really say she taught me about “sacred geometry,” since I taught her about that … but in a way she did.
But when we taught a bunch of underprivileged children, who initially “hated math,” about “sacred geometry” in a fun and creative manner, in the S.T.E.A.M. program we were running. I will say those children learned to utilize the creative side of their brains, and did come back telling us they now loved math.
Every elementary school should be teaching training into love of the sciences, technology, engineering, and mathematics, via the arts initially. Since children love learning, by making and creating … and should the love of learning, making, and creating ever really end, for any of us?
Oh, one other topic that I thought about recently, which I’ve not yet seen discussed here, but think it should be. Is the fact that the US is supposed to have separation of church and state.
But since both the religions and the state have social workers … that means we don’t have separation of church and state (not to the mention the 501c3 issue). But that is one other large systemic crime of the “mental health” industries, at least in the US.
I’ve never said the West is “the only place where these things are crazy.”
“I don’t see ‘getting rid’ of the systems as an option.” Why not? Have you ever really thought about it? Maybe, as I believe, the “systems” are too corrupted, and by design, to bother even trying to fix?
The psych industries are just one large instance. For example, by DSM design, no “mental health professional” to this day, may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … since that is missing from their debunked DSM billing code “bible.”
Perhaps, some “systems” are too paternalistically designed, and for evil intent, like systemically covering up child abuse, to even bother trying to reform.
But, psychiatry would have to clean up the societal mess which they’ve created, which will take time. So a bad paternalistic “system,” like the “mental health system,” IMHO, should be weaned out of existence.
I’m not a believer in the concept God created “mental illness.” But as a psychopharmacology researcher, I do know the psychiatrists and other MDs do, with the psych drugs.
“The elites have a lot of power, and they use it to protect themselves.” And they utilize today’s “mental health” industries to do this for them.
“We all already know that our political and social systems are basically insane. The ‘mental health system’ should be working to fix that, but it isn’t. That is our challenge.”
I agree, we need to get rid of Western civilization’s “insane” “political and social systems” … today’s “insane” societal problems are basically the same problematic industries, as Jesus spoke out against over 2000 years ago … +psychiatry and psychology, et al.
Psych drugging our children should completely end. For God’s sake, how is it that our society has multiple industries, which think grown adults should be defaming innocent young children, with scientifically “invalid” DSM disorders / “life long, incurable, genetic mental illnesses” … for life? That is disgusting.
In relation to discussing the education system … I as one, who attended one of NY’s best public school systems, back in the early 1970’s; and has experience with both the public and private school systems; and has run art and S.T.E.A.M. programs … I most certainly want to be a part of how to improve the schools.
And, there’s a lot of changes that need to be made, but I’m pretty certain we’ve all already dreamt up how to best fix them. Let’s hope and pray.
“anachronistic,” is a totally inappropriate term to use … given the fact we are trying to end today’s totalitarian, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billing system.
And bring about “participatory research [models that are built] on a growing body of scholarship and advocacy that challenges traditional hierarchies in mental health research and calls for centering lived experience in knowledge production. The findings also align with research on how community participation can address the limitations of traditional psychiatric research models by recognizing individuals with lived experience as co-creators of knowledge.”
For God’s sake, why would a psych “professional,” who has never taken a psych med,” know more about the psych “meds,” than a person who has been on them? They wouldn’t, and they don’t.
“Good science wants to move us closer to truth, and understands that even being proven wrong is a step forward.”
So the so called “mental health professionals,” whose DSM “bible” was debunked as “invalid” in 2013, need to garner insight into reality.
“No doubt science is not the only way we know things. Some things we know using logic. Some things we intuit or just have a feeling about. Some things we’re taught and we accept them as knowledge. Some things we can know using our five senses. Some may come from religious training.”
So the Holy Spiritual blasphemers of the “mental health industries” may want to repent, and change from their “unforgivable” ways?
“In Libya, psychiatric care — whether public or private — is often built on coercion, not compassion.”
The same is true in the US.
“I was never violent. Never suicidal. Never detached from reality. I was fighting something far more dangerous than madness — I was fighting a culture of fear and suppression masquerading as mental health care.”
I was never any of those things either. But it is rather sick, now that the psych industries have been found to be “invalid,” how desperate they’ve become.
I do appreciate the MDs who are speaking out against the insanity of the debunked psych industries. Thank you, Mohamed.
This blog largely points out the impropriety of psychologists functioning as funnels into the force drugging psychiatric industry, and why they shouldn’t be doing that. Not to mention, why neither the psychologic nor psychiatric industries should have a right to coerce or force neurotoxic poison anyone.
No offense, Richard, but psychiatry is an iatrogenic illness creation Ponzi scheme. The ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” and “schizophrenia” symptoms. And the antipsychotics can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
“‘Social prescribing’ has been presented as an effective strategy to mitigate the impact of the social determinants of health. These include referring individuals to art classes, physical activity, or other community alternatives to therapy and medication that help them connect with others and build communities.”
Well, I’m rather new to the concept of “social prescribing.” But after having antidepressant withdrawal induced brain zaps being misdiagnosed as “bipolar, just after 9.11.2001. And having all distress from 9/11 being blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone. By a manic lunatic psychologist, who’d gotten all her misinformation about me from her pastor, and a child abuser’s wife, rather than listening to my legitimate societal concerns.
I will say, art is good therapy, when one is being unjustly attacked, by a crazy DSM deluded, big Pharma forcing, psychologist. Regular, moderate exercise, in nature, was also a key in my healing journey, as was lots of other volunteer community service (for example, I was a planning commissioner of my Village.)
“Another study linked psychosis to poverty, housing and employment instability, and racism. Research has found that due to the disparities associated with psychosis, it cannot be separated from structural racism and social inequality.”
Neither can the psych industries’ forced druggings with the anticholinergic drugs, since all MD’s are taught in med school that the anticholinergic drugs (like the antidepressants and antipsychotics) can create psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome.
But I will agree, once one escapes the evil of psychological and psychiatric anticholinergic toxidrome attempted murders, one is then faced with systemic, attempted financial destruction, and shitloads of thievery, and attempted thievery.
“Critical psychologists have cautioned about how the practice of addressing social determinants of health is being approached. This is due to many turning social factors into individual issues, when there is a blatant need to address our society’s problems instead.”
Wake up to reality, DSM deluded psych lunatics, please … your DSM “bible” was debunked in 2013.
“In a previous study, mental health providers were found to endorse right-wing authoritarianism and ignore the needs of the hypothetical person for whom they were referred for treatment.”
Well, as one who was “referred for treatment” to a lunatic psychologist, instead of a medical doctor, as I requested, by an assh-le pastor, I will say this is not the problem.
But us “hypothetical” people are real, not “fictional,” as my medical records wrongly state.
Haven’t we all “lived through madness and distress” already? For goodness sake, Covid was societal madness, so was 9/11/01, and both were legitimately distressing. No doubt, it’s past time for the psych industries to take a long hard look in the mirror … and come towards understanding the hard truth … it’s past time for big change, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billers.
“’What is Reality?’ is a deep and profound question that has not been answered by Psychiatry. That answer needs to be answered first before condemning someone to being ‘not in touch with reality.’”
Good point, Consciousness. I like your pseudonym, by the way.
“Your perception is your reality. At the same time, we do Not define other people’s realities.” I agree, that’s a pretty good definition of reality. “… Don’t let someone else define your reality.”
But that is exactly what, I think it was all, of the “mental health professionals” that I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with did, or tried to do … you should read the thievery/conservatorship contract a psychologist handed me. Talk about a control freak nut job!
And what was even sicker was he had hacked into my computer, and was literally following me on the internet for years (after I’d reported him to the police once), talk about the epitome of creepy … not to mention downright criminal. Plus, Google told me he had set up a website, utilizing my name and one of my emails, apparently so he could try to gaslight me from within my own computer, and rewrite my life’s story, I would imagine? Creepy!
MiA, “This content is restricted to buyers of .”??? Is there more?
I’m so very grateful to the honest British psychologists, especially you, John Read. Since the American psychologists, that I’ve had the misfortune of being confronted by, “want to maintain the status quo” – which is misdiagnosing the common withdrawal effects of the antidepressants as bipolar – which leads one into a very literal, drug induced, living hell.
The staggering magnitude of harm, that the “mental health” industries are doing … especially to our children … is horrendous.
As one who has a really sweet love story in my dreams, that I am not just the “bad,” or good truth telling, mother of my own children … but a truth teller to all of the younger generations.
Tonight, I took a walk to my local convenience store, to buy stuff I shouldn’t be eating. But it was kind of cute that there were a bunch of high school aged young men, who were playing outside and stopped playing when they saw me … and they led me safely towards my local convince store. So the sweet love story of my dreams seemingly also exists in my waking hours … at least I hope and pray.
Thank you, Mr. Whitaker, for your continued truth telling … let’s save all the children … from the systemic harms of the scientifically “invalid,” DSM “bible” billing, industries.
“Trauma is subjective. It can shift with support, insight, and reframing. Its healing lies in meaning-making.
“Personal abuse is objective. It involves wrongdoing, moral breach, and requires truth-telling and repair.
“Systemic abuse blends the two. It distorts trauma to hide abuse and uses institutional power to deny both.”
Beautiful synopsis of the “mental health” industries’ systemic abuse, Maram. And it’s all by DSM design, since no DSM “bible” biller today, may ever bill for ethically and truthfully helping any child abuse survivor ever.
“The authors explain” … “they hope that it can inspire people to think differently and more broadly about some of the taken-for-granted assumptions and principles underlying much of what goes on in the psy-disciplines.”
Yes, “when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.” Please stop assuming you are the judges of all innocent people on the planet, “mental health professionals.” Since you are NOT, God is the judge of all, including you.
Thank you for pointing these rather blatantly obvious sins of the “mental health” industries, Micah.
“Is it time to consider the possibility that the entire field is a failed enterprise, a wrong turn in human history?” Indeed, I think it is. Thank you for this well written blog, Patrick.
And that comes from a decades long psychopharmacology researcher, and innocent, but formerly well insured person, who had the misfortune of dealing with both political and criminal abuse of the scientifically “invalid” psych industries … so they could cover up a “bad fix” on a broken bone for incompetent doctors, and medical evidence of the abuse of my three year old child for a pastor … two illegal activities.
“The fear that citizens suffer of being interned in an asylum turns all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized into terrorist states that have built a “chemical apartheid” for abnormal people.”
Well, I would say too many artists (instead of “abnormal people”) especially the visual artists, since “a picture paints a thousand words,” so a bunch of pictures about psychiatric harms, tells a damning story about the systemic crimes of both the psychological and psychiatric system (you may see a few of my pieces here, under the art section).
Marc Chagall painted the psychiatric / Spiritual war against the Jews, decades ago. And as a “Chicago Chagall,” I took a lot of inspiration from his work, and I painted the Spiritual / psychiatric and psychological crimes being committed against the American population today.
So I agree with you, “all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized [are] terrorist states.”
It is “way past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers.
For goodness sake, to the “mental health professionals’,” who are still claiming ignorance, of the fact that their DSM “bible” was debunked as “bulls-t” and “invalid” long ago. It is not time to “maintain the status quo.” Stealing from the widows in a church, that you don’t even attend, but you are unethically “partnered” with, is unacceptable human behavior. Proclaiming “all mosaic art is bad public art,” to steal a person’s time, defame their art form, and to prevent an artist in the church you are unethically “partnered” with from getting an art grant, is thievery of my time, insane, unethical, and morally wrong … and unacceptable human behavior.
It is long “past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers. Flush your DSM, if you don’t, you are the insane people, among the .05% of the population, that may not be staying on this planet.
God is sick and tired of the DSM deluded, mass murdering, psych “professions” repeating the worst of history … over and over again.
NPR should be defunded, if it doesn’t report on subjects like psychiatry’s debacles, like this report does. So thank you, NPR, for reporting the truth.
Yes, all of societies’ ills result from the love of “MONEY,” and the Ponzi scheme of the usury based banking systems, that create money out of nothing. Jesus forewarned us of this problem, over 2000 years ago.
Thank you for encouraging use of Soteria Houses, Open Dialogue, et al, Yair. Thank you for allowing open dialogue on important matters, MiA.
Crab, maybe what we need to do is try to end WWII for the Israelis, not start WWIII? Let’s all pray, “Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with” us.
“However, researchers who have reviewed this 60-year database of RCTs have not found a single trial that assessed the merits of an antipsychotic in first-episode, medication-naïve patients.”
I did try to test this, since I had a loved one, who was dealing with alcohol encephalitis, which mimics the symptoms of “schizophrenia,” but he was in his late 50’s when this happened, not young. I asked doctors to avoid the anticholinergic drugs (antidepressants, antipsychotics et al), since I knew both me and my grandmother, neither of whom were dealing with alcohol encephalitis nor “psychosis,” were made ungodly sick on them.
And, in much as I’ve yet to be given the right to see my loved one’s medical records, and don’t think he’s even picked them up himself, so can’t claim to know with certainty. But, in as much as I know the anticholinergic drugs are problematic for innocent females, who speak out against the systemic child abuse covering up problems within our society. I don’t know whether or not the neuroleptics are, in a very short run manner, a needed short run fix for alcohol encephalitis, which may likely be a probable common cause of psychosis.
But I have been pointing out for decades that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics, used long term, in combination, or inappropriately, are very dangerous. Because the anticholinergic drugs can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Not to mention, if used long term, they result in a nasty drug withdrawal induced manic “psychosis,” but which also for me, was also an awakening.
I did find that a benzos didn’t work short term for my loved one, but maybe (I don’t know, since I haven’t seen my loved one’s medical records) an antipsychotic did work short term, then a short term course of a low dose of lithium did work. My loved one has been psych drugs free, and doing well for a while.
Thank you, Mr. Whitaker, for all you do, and say. And thank you for letting us independent medical researchers allow to speak.
And I do agree with you, James, ”ignorance is no excuse for the law,” so the psych “professionals,” who now all claim ignorance, when no medically trained doctor can claim ignorance, are not innocent. Wake up lawyers.
I learned in freshman year of college to not bother hating others. I had volunteered to drive a freshman corridor member to the airport, since I was an alternative student senator, so was one of the only people in my freshman corridor who was allowed to have a car.
She swore horribly as we drove to the airport, and showed less than zero respect to me, for what I volunteered to do for her. I hated her for one week.
But she didn’t care, so I realized hating anyone was a waste of my time and energy.
“hatred is actually one aspect of love.” Maybe, or hate is based upon jealousy, et al. Nonetheless, the opposite of love is fear, not hate, so have no fear.
“Furthermore, Malherbe believes that there may be a foundational role for hatred in progressive politics, specifically a radical hatred that is a ‘hatred of systematized hatred.'”
And we do have bad systems in Western civilization, like the DSM deluded psych industries.
“He mentions cases in progressive political circles where transphobia, homophobia, sexual assault, and other interpersonal problems emerge. These forms of hatred are intrapersonally, interpersonally, and politically destructive.”
Well, as the mom of a gay and trans child, both of whom I love, but my trans child currently won’t speak to me, and seemingly hates me. I hope he can work through his, and his significant other’s, hatred of me. Please pray for my family.
Psychiatry and psychology really went in the wrong direction, I don’t personally believe DSM deluded psychiatry is savable, and needs to be weaned out of existence, once they’ve cleaned up the appalling mess they’ve created. And I believe the Jungians are the only hope the psychologists have in saving any possible respectability for their industry.
“My academic work, my teaching, and now my clinical training in spiritual care and psychotherapy are all shaped by that lived experience.”
Thank you for admitting the psychologists are “partners” with the paternalistic pastors, since I already have medical and legal evidence of this, and their systemic, faustian child abuse covering up “partnership” is problematic.
“My grounding in practical theology helped me approach these memoirs not just as data, but as sites of spiritual meaning, places where deep questions about pain, God, and care are being worked out in real time.”
Let’s all pray to bring about God’s actual will on this planet, and end Satan’s reign.
“Therapy is not about indoctrination — it’s about liberation.”
That was the antithesis of my experience with therapy. And given the reality that both bipolar and schizophrenia are iatrogenic illnesses, created with the psychiatric neurotoxins, and your DSM was debunked in 2013. You should probably rethink your maltreatment of those you delude yourself into believing are “bipolar” and “schizophrenic,” or “OCD.”
“liberation requires honesty.”
I agree, liberty requires honesty and free speech.
“Silence benefits the status quo. And the status quo is deeply oppressive.”
Yes, I dealt with a satanically controlled psychologist, who I refused to hire, who wanted to steal all my money and work, and murder my child, to “maintain the status quo,” merely because my wonderful and brilliant child survived child abuse. The psych industries’, by DSM design, who work within systemic child abuse covering up systems, are most definitely not innocent.
“let’s be real: most modern therapy was never meant to dismantle oppression. It was built to help people cope with it — quietly. Western therapy … pathologizes resistance. It tells people to regulate their emotions before asking whether those emotions are, in fact, entirely appropriate reactions to political abandonment and systemic betrayal.”
And Western civilization does have bad systems, which include all the corrupt DSM “bible” billing industries, but also the bad banking, maritime legal, and even, I think now, all of Rockefeller medical, Pharma, mainstream religious systems, et al.
“We need clinicians who understand that the real risk isn’t speaking up — it’s staying silent while injustice becomes normalized.”
And it is the psych industries who are the most guilty when it comes to “injustice” becoming “normalized.”
“Stop minimizing systemic trauma to keep your comfort intact. Clients don’t need you to save them. But they do need you to stand with them — to see them, believe them, and name the truth with them.”
And certainly stop declaring the entirety of the truth tellers’ lives to be “a credible fictional story” in our medical records.
“We can also say that it is possible that psychiatric drugs are being used as weapons to increase the number of ‘mental ill (illnesses)’ and ‘mentally patients’ people. Anyway, these are serious issues that need to be ‘discussed separately’.”
Not so certain that they need to be discussed separately, I think now and here is the time and place.
“Just because you don’t understand what I am saying, doesn’t mean I am psychotic”.
I never used that phrase, but I agree, all should have the right to use it. I reminded doctors of anticholinergic intoxication, so they would treat a loved one appropriately … which all are freely welcomed to do as well.
Thank you to our military for joining the fight, I’ve painted the fight against the DSM psych industries as a war, Marc Chagall also painted this. Nonetheless, I’m heartbroken that psychiatry is mass murdering our veterans with their neurotoxins, and for profit.
Just an FYI, it’s rather creepy that you can’t watch the video, without agreeing to let facebook track you. For goodness sakes, many of those of us here, use a pseudonym for safety reasons. Since pointing out the medical evidence of the iatrogenic etiology of “the sacred symbol of psychiatry” does rather make one at least enemy number two, thanks Robert Whitaker, to big Pharma.
This is almost a perfect description of exactly how my marriage was destroyed by a supposed “holistic, Christian talk therapist,” who also claimed to be a “family therapist.” But I wasn’t even an alcoholic, just an innocent woman who married into a highly dysfunctional and apparently satan, and psych industry, controlled family.
A paradigm change is definitely needed, for both the psychological and psychiatric industries, especially since they lack wisdom into most philosophical thought.
I agree. Especially since any time one combines the anticholinergic drugs (and both the antidepressants and the antipsychotics are anticholinergic drugs), one runs the risk of causing anticholinergic toxidrome, the symptoms of which look like schizophrenia to the psychiatrists.
Was it Dr. Peter Gotzche who asked if the psychiatrists were crazier than their patients? Yes, they are, indeed … new low, after new low, after new low, psych industries.
“When it’s time to change,” we’ve got to rearrange, who we are and what we’re going to be. Awaken with the Holy Spirit, and pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit, “mental health professionals,” and welcome in the common sense, please.
Psychiatry did turn “Life into Illness,” and sadly psychology turned itself into a funnel to the neurotoxic poisoners of psychiatry, instead of listeners.
No offense, psychologic industry, but you all bought into the billing code “bible” of the psychiatric industry’s ‘invalid’ DSM “bible,” which was debunked as “invalid” in 2013, by the head of the NIMH.
Yet too many of you, who have also unethically “partnered” with the mainstream paternalistic religions, who want to “maintain the status quo,” long after 2013, actually should repent and change from your evil ways. Instead of merely pretending you’re changing from your evil ways, without repentance, and ending your faustian “partnerships.”
I do agree that society should “depsychiatrize,” since their “bible” was debunked as “invalid,” by the head of the NIMH in 2013, as well as being confessed to be “BS” by the head editor(s) of the DSM(s).
And those of us here all know that the psych industries’ neurotoxins, can and do create the symptoms of their DSM “disorders.” (Please see my prior comments on MiA if you’d like to see my links to prove this.)
All DSM “bible” billers are the guilty, based upon my experience, and medical records. And they should all repent, burn their “invalid” DSM billing code “bible,” and change from their evil, pathological lying, and highly delusional ways.
That happened to me, Vee. Thank goodness my insurance company refused to pay for me to be institutionalized for life, by doctors, one of whom was eventually convicted by the FBI.
I agree, Dr. Peter, prescribing of depression pills absolutely must end in all of child bearing age, and younger. But I don’t think there is a need for use of that class of drugs, for anyone of any age, in the long run. Thus, I believe use of antidepressants should eventually end – let those on them, who find them useful, or don’t want to go through withdrawal, stay on them; but wean those who want to be taken off them, off them.
I almost did not read past the first couple sentences, because I was afraid it might make me cry. In the summer of 2009, I met a couple of Israelis outside a hotel in downtown Chicago. They were speaking in Yiddish, which sounds similar to German. I asked if they were from Germany, and this greatly offended them. They told me the Germans were the enemy, and that they were from Israel. I apologized for my error, and we made polite small talk, until we finished our cigarettes. But, it had never occurred to me in my waking hours, prior to that conversation, that for at least some Israelis, WWII never ended. And this gave me a great deal of empathy for the people of Israel. I pray all the wars, everywhere on this planet, end soon.
Nonetheless, I’m glad I continued reading, because I absolutely agree, art heals. Painting, journaling, dancing, gardening, and music all helped me heal. Making art allowed me to get the evil out. Journaling allowed me to make sense of the insanity of today’s “mental health” industries. Gardening allowed me to commune with nature. And since I can basically tell my entire life’s story, as if I were a muse for the musicians, in music lyrics … well, ‘music has charms to sooth a savage beast.’ And dancing goes hand in hand with music, and is a good way to get the extra energy of a drug withdrawal induced super sensitivity mania out. God bless you on your healing journey, Yishay.
As one who shares a nickname with you, within the websites of my dreams – which are organized like the internet of the “collective unconscious” / dream world – which is probably why most people’s dreams are confusing to them. But of what I know of my awakenings to my dreams, makes sense to me, and they are where I find the common sense of all.
I will say last night I was a bad girl, I went to my local convince store to buy some ice cream. I was in line between two black woman. One was complaining about all the, largely financial based, problems in her life to the other. I don’t know if the women knew one another.
But gradually, I entered into the conversation … agreed with the complaining woman that it was difficult to live in a different state than the rest of her family. And asked her why she moved here. Eventually I asked the woman frustrated with life’s problems, if she’d do me a favor. I politely asked her to consider praying two prayers.
I asked her to pray one night to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then when she felt ready, to pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
Initially, she was a bit defensive, since she hadn’t been going to church recently. As the listening black women was checking out she asked me about what religion I belonged to. I told both women I’m in between religions right now. But then I mentioned … that doesn’t mean you have to stop believing in the Triune God.
I then told them both I was friends with a couple pastors, who I used to work with, and I knew their hearts were in the right place. So I recommended their church to them. The complaining women then asked me for the prayer suggestions again, and she was so grateful, that she bought my ice cream for me, despite her financial problems. Of course, I did “pay it forward” for her in return.
But this whole personal story does lead me to the polite suggestion for you too, No-one, and everyone else, to please also consider praying those two prayers.
I believe Jon’s story points out a very important reason why our society absolutely needs to stop psych neurotoxic poisoning all children, as well as all of child bearing age, who might possibly like to have children and live a normal and happy life … which is pretty much the entire population.
Thank you, Peter, for your continued truthful reporting.
You are very modest, Jon, your research and efforts are very impressive. And, as one who was also, misjudged – in your case for stupid reasons, in my case for stupid and nefarious reasons – and harmed with the anticholinergic drugs. I hope you don’t mind if I link your story in a comment in yesterday’s article about the antidepressants, by Peter Simons.
I believe your story points out a very important reason why our society absolutely needs to stop psych neurotoxic poisoning all children, as well as all of child bearing age, who might possibly like to have children and live a normal life. God bless you in your healing and research journeys, Jon.
“Laughter is the best medicine,” as they say, and as I mentioned in a highlighted youtube comment recently. And I do tend to get my news, from comedians, on both the left and right. Largely because the divide and conquer strategy of the mainstream media, that is destroying the country in which I live, is obnoxious. And it’s better to laugh at one’s insane society, rather than to cry.
And, hey, Kermit Cole, who comes in the name of my eldest son, and other relatives. We did sort of, possibly, “cure” schizophrenia … or we could, since we found the iatrogenic etiology of schizophrenia. Given the fact that the antipsychotics can create the positive symptoms of schizophrenia, via anticholinergic toxidrome; and the negative symptoms can be created, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Albeit, we also know there are many other psycho/social – but not “genetic” – causes of schizophrenia symptoms. Please see my comment on yesterday’s Dr. Peter Gøtzsche’s post on MiA, of the ones I know of, and add any more, of which, I may still be unaware.
Laughter is the best medicine, psychiatrists, not defaming people with “invalid” DSM disorders, and neurotoxic poisoning people. Please wake up, psychiatry.
Thank you for the interview, Mr. Whitaker and Mr. Cole.
I do like your idea of memorials for those harmed and killed by the psych industries, Cat. May I put my hat in the ring to make the memorials, if funding is ever raised for Cat’s good idea?
I need to design a memorial for my father’s grave. And have come up with an idea, and it – or something similar – might also be a cool design for such memorials to the many harmed and killed by the psychiatrists.
I’ve been doing research into sacred geometry, which is basically the mathematics behind everything in God’s universe. And sacred geometry designs are supposed to have healing properties, and are visually appealing to humans.
I’ve concluded that to make my dad’s memorial, I should probably take a class in 3-D printing, and I have found a local university that teaches it. Because I need to come up with a 3-D model of my design, in order to have it caste in bronze.
In essence what I have in mind is a 3-D image of a flower of life, that has a rising sun, worked into the design, the location of which is based upon the fibonacci spiral. If you don’t know anything about sacred geometry (since it’s not taught in the US schools), this may be difficult to envision, but you can google it. And I think it’s a cool idea for a memorial.
I plan to also put a stylized image of an olive tree (roots, slightly gnarly trunk, and branches) in my dad’s memorial, since his hobby was genealogy. Then I thought I’d mount it on some granite, probably. The size of the bronze part could be 21″ x 21″ or 42″ x 42″ or 21″ x 34″, or possibly larger, so there’s lots of options.
At least I’d like to throw my hat into the ring for consideration, as an artist and designer, if Cat’s idea ever found funding.
Thank you, Dr. Peter Gøtzsche for your consistent truth telling.
“Psychiatry should be demolished and built up from the ground, focusing on psychosocial interventions, as recently recommended by the United Nations and the WHO.50”
Personally, I believe that psychiatry should focus on learning to wean people off the psych neurotoxins (in essence to minimize the mess they’ve created). Then psychiatry, as a medical profession, should gradually be weaned out of existence.
As to psychology, the non-medically trained psychologists should not be diagnosing anyone with anything. And, as one who believes the Jungians are the closest to the truth, they could research into things like the collective unconscious, etc. (in other words, no clinical work).
Or, maybe since they are already “partnered” with the religions, I suppose that as long as everyone is made aware of this relationship (in other words, the churches could pay the psychologists, but they should never ever charge a client, fraudulently implying they work for the client, then run off to get lies and gossip from a pastor about the client, as happened to me). But since I already know this is a faustian partnership, it’s probably better that “partnership” is ended.
But if the psychologists actually want to help people, they should become helpers, largely unrelated, to the medical field, in places like Soteria Houses or healing farms, and the like.
“And all treatment needs to be voluntary.11,12” I agree, forced and coerced treatment should eventually be made illegal. But this gets tricky, when it comes to someone who is psychotic.
So who will help a person who is experiencing psychosis, you may ask? Based on experience with a loved one, I know families do need help in such cases. A short course of benzos? That didn’t work for my loved one, but it may be a good place to start. A short course (like one or two days) of neuroleptics might at least calm the person down, allow them to sleep, but then you do run the risk of a drug withdrawal induced super sensitivity manic psychosis. But if you follow the antipsychotic up, in a healing space, for a week or two, with a low dose of lithium. And then reduce the lithium within a month to six weeks. Well, just an antidotal case, but that is what helped my loved one.
I guess the “healing space” should begin in the hospital. But once the person is stabilized on the lithium, if they do need a safe space until they get weaned off the lithium. I do believe we should move towards alternatives like Soteria houses, healing farms, maybe open dialogue, and give me more ideas, ladies and gentlemen. If a person is actually violent, then the police likely should deal with them. But the paramedics and police are not very good about assessing whether a psychotic person is dangerous, unless they are told the person is not dangerous. (There’s been too much psychiatric brainwashing of the public.)
As to what are the causes of psychosis?
street drugs
alcohol encephalitis
the ADHD drugs
the anticholinergic drugs (antidepressants, antipsychotics, etc.)
drug interactions
psych drug withdrawal
trauma
sleep deprivation
None of which are “genetic” etiologies. But do add to the list, if you can. And please make other suggestions for alternatives, or disagree with me, and explain why we should not move in this direction, please … I’m still just thinking through it.
“this study confirms that artificial intelligence does not provide a solution to human stigma. In fact, without explicit countermeasures and community oversight, large language models (LLMs) risk automating existing prejudices on an unprecedented scale.”
Thank you for finally defining a LLM, for those of us who are not computer specialists. And I agree,
“This work reinforces the calls from the consumer-survivor-ex-patient movement to involve individuals with lived experiences at every stage of technology design, evaluation, and deployment.”
Smart younger generation ADHD, bipolar defamed, et al … us older, not terribly computer savvy, need your help, please.
Of course, “Coercion in Psychiatric Wards Tied to Worse Recovery.” And forced and coerced psych drugging is horribly anti-democratic. If the psych “professions” can’t, without coercion and force, sell their neurotoxins, then they need to change their business model. And that is what needs to happen.
We really do need to end the psychiatric / psychologic DSM defamation and neurotoxic poisoning of all people … but especially of those still of childbearing age, and younger.
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“‘Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep in SSRI-exposed fetuses is an abnormal phenomenon, but its significance for postnatal development is unclear,’ the researchers concluded” … based upon what research?
Since from what I’ve read, I’m pretty certain REM sleep is very important. And you may be right about akathisia being the cause of “Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep,” which is not good either.
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Thank you for sharing your story. As I was reading it, it reminded me of what the “medical model” has as a deplorable goal, IMHO. The “medical model” is all about labeling people with their “life long incurable,” but “invalid,” DSM disorders, then neurotoxic poisoning their clients. And that satanic “medical model” is all about stealing hope from people, which I think is a deplorable goal.
Thanks again for sharing your inspiring story about how a non-money based model, that’s not about stealing hope, works so much better … albeit it’s not profitable. But shouldn’t we human beings be trying to help and care for one another anyway, not only for profit?
For goodness sakes, have you ever thought about the totally fraudulent aspect of the medical/pharmaceutical/insurance industrial complex’s payment system? A quick example, that hopefully will point out the fraud of it all.
I was handed an “art manager” contract by a psychologist who wanted me to pay him, to paint for him, while he “managed” me (via a ‘take a % of gross’ aspect of the contract), after I gave him total control of all my money (via the ‘conservatorship contract’ aspect of that thievery contract).
That’s actually the absurdity of how today’s US medical community charges the rest of us for their supposed “help.” In all honesty, it’s fraud.
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Are you Al, or AI? Perhaps my comment was not clear enough, regarding my lack of respect towards the entirety of the scientifically “invalid” “mental health” industries?
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Thank you, Rob, for pointing out that the psych industries are NOT the solution, and actually are a part of the problem. I agree housing first, would be a part of the solution.
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“Study Warns of Overreliance on Rapid Tranquillisation in Women’s Psychiatric Care.”
Yes, my medical records speak to this truth. My now FBI convicted, former doctor, is only a small part of a huge societal paternalistic problem.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/oak-brook-doctor-sentenced-two-years-prison-connection-kickback-scheme-sacred-heart
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I agree, psychological reductionism is staggeringly stupid, to the point it’s downright insane; and it is based upon the “chemical imbalance” lie. Honestly, the older psych “professionals” should be downright ashamed of themselves.
I mean, what is “professional” about now claiming to know nothing about the common adverse and withdrawal effects of the products one is selling / forcing others to purchase? There is nothing “professional” about that at all … and that comes from an honest sales professional, whose clients loved what I designed for them. Not that I didn’t turn a requested $2000 backsplash potential sale, into a $70,000 wainscoted laundry room sale, when I knew I was dealing with an extremely wealthy client.
It’s very important to know and respectfully understand one’s clients. I also had a not-too-wealthy client, who kept coming back to me, because I could design a backsplash and foyer floor, that combined the diamonds with the blue jeans (analogy), in a unique and beautiful manner.
I had to leave my psychiatrist, once I’d read all the misinformation he’d gotten from people who didn’t know me, instead of actually listening to me, written right in his medical records. And he did, very literally, declare the entirety of my life to be, “a credible fictional story” in his medical records … too insane for me, unprofessional “psych professionals.”
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I agree, denial of trauma by the so called “mental health professionals” is the problem, and I agree to some extent with No-one, too. Since I had to walk away from my husband’s highly dysfunctional family. And I won’t let any dysfunctional family, including a highly dysfunctional religious “family,” divide me from my real family, which is why I had to leave my childhood religion forever.
My mom was recently “hospitalized” for over two months, and her “religious family” never even came to visit her once. I think she got one card, from a friend of ours, within that highly dysfunctional “religious family.”
I agree with Steve’s comment below, “How anyone imagines that inducing a seizure through electrocution can be anything but harmful to the brain is truly beyond comprehension!”
So does that mean we “need more research funding” for ECT research? Or should we just – utilizing common sense – end ECT? I personally think the latter is the wiser approach. Especially given the intentional lack of research into ECT, by the well funded, but scientifically “invalid” psych industries, at this point.
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After reading this:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/meta-ai-chatbot-guidelines/
I ask, why are chatbots even legal at all?
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I don’t understand why, “According to the researchers here (and the researchers in other studies that similarly find patients don’t want their doctors to use AI), it’s the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI and ’emphasize its potential benefits’ to convince them to accept AI use:”
Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” Are the doctors now, not just the whores of big Pharma, but also whores of big Tech/AI, too?
“’From the physician’s perspective it thus may be important to transparently communicate the rationale for using AI and to emphasize its potential benefits for the patient,’ they write.”
“(Note: The researchers do not list any benefits in their article.)”
As one who knows AI is often wrong, I’ll ask again, Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” And what are the actual benefits of AI to the majority (your clients), doctors?
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Thank you for sharing your story/perspective, Jasmine. I agree, this is an important topic to discuss. As a fellow psych survivor, I can write my story as a hero’s journey story, that does not match any of the narratives you point out as the psych industries’ “narrative.”
“Exposition: Establish protagonist (main character), the afflicted,” would be me. A women who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, an ethical banker’s daughter, a “tailor who sings with the Lord,” singing “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion,” who hopes and prays we can all work our way towards healing … and eventually wisdom.
“Rising Action: Establish conflict: Symptom onset. Illness develops.” I will say distress, not “illness” developed, in my personal case … due to the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 … which was my personal “Rising Action.”
“Climax: Protagonist confronts their obstacle, seeking professional help and receiving a clinical diagnosis.”
I did this, was a compliant patient, and was slowly weaned off of the majority of the psych drugs by my psychiatrist by 2005. Because once I’d stop seeing a pathological lying psychologist, my psychiatrist concluded I’d been misdiagnosed by that non-medically trained psychologist, which, of course, was true (a misdiagnosis of brain zaps, which weren’t known to the psych industries as a common withdrawal symptom of antidepressant discontinuation syndrome until 2005, but which was blatant malpractice according to the DSM-IV-TR at the time, and still should be).
“Falling Action: Protagonist diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication, and starts to get better.”
Well, I did “diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication.” But no, repeated anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, made me much worse. However, I did start to get much better, as I was weaned off the anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings.
“Resolution: Full recovery! Victory!”
Well, not quite so simplistic … my “resolution”/”elixir” was getting off the psych drugs … but the withdrawal wasn’t at all easy, initially. And I did have to do a whole lot of research, and personal self healing. So I would say, I’m still on my healing journey, and will likely be my entire life, and I think I will spend my entire life working my way towards wisdom.
That’s not a bad thing, however I’m not certain it could be claimed to be “Full recovery! Victory!” either. But the Jungian psychologists do seem to see the wisdom of spending one’s life working their way towards wisdom. And hopefully, if we all collectively work our way towards wisdom, we can help heal humanity together. And that would be a true “Victory!”
Life’s a journey, a search for wisdom, for all of us.
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“Audre Lorde’s famous quote, ‘the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house,'” is a good quote. I’m glad the younger psychologists/couselors are garnering insight into the fact that the “master” is not the psychiatrists, and their “BS” DSM, nor yourselves. God save us all.
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Wow, this is largely a description of why I didn’t buy into the “chemical imbalance” deluded professional and peer movement, nor pay to go back to school to become one of them, when requested to, by “mental health professionals” of my ex-religion.
The entirety of today’s “mental heath professions” is about caste systems, and defaming those perceived as lower.
I have no interest in partaking in the stupidity of the “mental health” industry’s caste system. Instead, I’ll say, if you must partake in belief in a caste system, I’ll take my proper place, with my father, as a member of an ethical banking family … and, of course, the ethical banking families, who’ve actually been keeping track of the money, are going to be much wiser than the largely insane, unethical, money only worshipping, scientifically debunked DSM caste system deluded, “mental health professionals.”
I’m sorry you’ve dealt with such BS, Tim.
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I’ve been doing a lot of research lately into narcissism, which does describe most of my former “mental health professionals,” and their pastor and bishop “partners.”
And I will say, don’t bother waiting for an apology from the systemic narcissists. Since even if it ever does come, which it likely will not, it won’t be a genuine and sincerely given apology.
But as one who is a stickler for justice, who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, I do most definitely understand your frustration, Blu.
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I agree, big Pharma advertising needs to be made illegal again in the US.
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Not to mention, all us older generations were brainwashed to “trust your doctor.” So let’s hope the younger generations are not so brainwashed.
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Too cool, Derek. I hope this becomes a legal requirement for all doctors, if it technically isn’t already?
As a psychopharmacology researcher who found the medical evidence that the antipsychotics can create psychosis, and other “positive symptoms” of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome; as well as the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Please do include my medical research findings in the informed consent forms for the VA. And if you need a contact at the Cleveland VA, my son used to work there, and still has “Presidential managerial fellowship” friends who do still work there.
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I moved out of Illinois over a decade ago, so haven’t been keeping track of everything going on there in my waking hours. But any state to ban “AI therapists” is doing the right thing. AI is not ready for prime time, and a bad idea, in general.
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Please see my comment regarding the “schizophrenia” symptoms – and what can actually cause them – below, Marc. Now, of course iatrogenesis is not the only cause of the “schizophrenia” symptoms, but it may be the most common … not to dismiss your perspective, Marc … but I thought you should have that information.
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The antipsychotics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome. And they can create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxidrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroleptic-induced_deficit_syndrome
All doctors are supposedly taught this in med school.
Since false advertising is illegal, and given the magnitude of harm done with the antipsychotics, the anger is justified.
But thank you for your confession, Lydia.
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Your story made me cry, I’m sorry you dealt with a psychologist who harmed you, Catherine.
But I will say, in different ways, I found the DSM deluded psychologists, and gaslighting psychologists, to really be among the worst of all humans … on par, and in partnership with, the evil iatrogenic illness creators of the psychiatric industry.
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I’ve found both painting, and writing, to be helpful in healing from trauma. So I wouldn’t avoid getting the evil out, via your creative expression of choice, Yishay … get the evil out, so you may move on.
As I think I mentioned to you earlier, I do so hope we may soon end WWII for the Israelis. The never ending wars need to end … for all of us.
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I used to believe doctors and pastors were trustworthy, but the psych industries taught me to neither trust in, nor even automatically respect, any now working within the “two original educated professions.”
I agree, “Oftentimes in psychiatric settings, the voice of service-users is not heard ….” But the fact the psych professionals don’t listen to, or “not believed by doctor” what their clients say, is what allowed me to escape … once I was handed over all the BS and lies written into their medical records.
No one will ever believe their entire life is “a credible fictional story,” lunatics of the psych industries, who don’t know how to listen, nor treat others in a mutually respectful manner.
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We do have a DSM deluded, psychological and psychiatric, narcissist, and/or psychopathic, problem within society.
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How do you know how your son actually feels, julie, as opposed to just what he tells you? Being on the antipsychotics long term is quite detrimental to one’s health.
So perhaps it’d be wiser to trust in your son’s hard earned wisdom, “to come off his medication to try feel better?” Albeit, I can’t say that will be easy … and a very slow taper is recommended.
I don’t mean any offense, julie, and of course I don’t know anything about your family’s personal situation. I’m just speaking as a mother to another mother. But with a reminder that the job of a mother is eventually to respect their children to make their own decisions, so they may become who they are meant to be.
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“I’m not sure if I adequately conveyed here what it felt like to sit with this family.” I think you did a beautiful job, Amy. I can’t say I’ve ever even been slightly “triggered” by reading any other blog on MiA, but I somewhat did with your case story.
Now I must admit I tend to listen to youtube talks, when I read many MiA blogs, and I have been listening to a number of talks on narcissism lately, since I did deal with a lot of people who behaved as complete narcissists in my life … like this video discusses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yarVkSqWc4I
And your blog reminded me of all the narcissists with whom I’ve had the misfortune of dealing, including my former husband’s highly dysfunctional family, and my former highly dysfunctional religious “family” … largely due to their faustian “partnership” with the DSM deluded.
“The invisible rules mandating conformity in all things felt intense and oppressive.”
The debunked DSM deluded should garner insight into this wisdom. Today, everyone who doesn’t believe in the debunked DSM, or the chemical imbalance lie, is suffering from “anosognosia.” No, the debunked DSM deluded are the one’s in denial of the truth.
“My approach to diagnosis includes both observation of family interactional patterns and my experience of being with a family, testing both for points of rigidity and of flexibility. By flexibility I mean self-questioning, imagination, curiosity. The more flexibility, in general, the more health.”
Hint, hint, DSM “bible” billers. Wake up, your DSM “bible” was claimed to be “invalid” in 2013, by the head of the NIMH. It’s long past time to stop defaming all who don’t believe in your “bullish-t,” to have “anosognosia.”
“This story illustrates the sharp contrast between treating a mental disturbance as a relationship problem instead of [a] question of faulty brain chemistry.”
I agree. I’m glad you were able to actually help Melanie, Amy. The “faulty brain chemistry” DSM deluded are the unwise – distress is caused by distressing events and/or interpersonal issues, not “faulty brain chemistry.”
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It’s interesting that this study was published by globalist bankers, and an organization that is “known for promoting personal and economic liberty, free enterprise, and limited government” – as opposed to in a medical journal – I will say, as a small American banker’s daughter, who has been speaking out against psychiatric fraud, criminality, and greed, for well over a decade.
Of course, “Forced Hospitalization Increases Suicide and Violent Crime” … welcome to the common sense.
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The Cleveland Clinic hands over medical records of their patients – with the given diagnoses, or lack there of – at the time of payment, or lack thereof. That’s what all doctors should do, including the psych “professionals.”
At least that was my experience with a good doctor at the Cleveland Clinic, albeit I can’t say there aren’t bad psychiatrists there as well, since I did run into one of them too. Thankfully it only took mentioning I was allergic to the anticholinergic drugs to quickly scare him off ….
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No one has commented on this blog in a couple days, so I’ll pose the question again, aside from wanting to maintain undeserved power they do NOT deserve, why do “Mental Health Workers Say They Want Recovery-Oriented Care?” And “Still Endorse Involuntary Treatment?”
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“So, far from being unusually low, Oregon’s rate of psychiatric incarcerations of about 8,000 annually, or 190 incarcerations per 100,000 people, is near the national median.
“And that’s nearly double the UK rate and far higher than most comparable European countries.”
Isn’t that evidence of the systemic crimes of today’s “BS” US psych industries?
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I agree.
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As one who had a brother who was a philosophy major, who is thus also a “philosophically informed critic,” who has, “raised fundamental questions about the assumptions underlying neuroscience research and challenged dominant models in psychiatry,” yada yada….
I agree, reintegrating “philosophical reflection into mental health education and practice,” is needed.
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As one who insanely had all the “distress” of 9/11/2001, when I was picking up my psychologist’s medical records, blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is completely insane.
I’ll say, give Viviane a little credit, she’s very young, and has probably been grotesquely miseducated. And we do need to address the bad societal systems, which with we’re all dealing.
But I will say, Viviane, you have likely bought into a bad, paternalistic, system … since that’s what the DSM deluded psych industries are.
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Wow, this is a damning report, thank you, Rob.
As one who has recently researched into narcissism, who dealt (and hopefully is no longer dealing, but I don’t yet know for certain) with a narcissist psychologist.
I will forewarn all psych survivors, about the narcissistic – and downright criminal – behaviors of the now scientifically debunked DSM deluded “psych professionals.”
Mind Freedom, I will try to get our donation to you soon, thank you for all you do.
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“That psychologist wrote down the abuse. He acknowledged the physical attacks, abandonment, and psychological chaos I lived in. And then he concluded that my trauma wasn’t relevant, that my ‘developmental history was not contributory.’ That sentence became a badge my mother wore like armor, showing it to anyone who questioned her. It told the world that I was just a bad kid, and it let her off the hook.”
Pardon my disgust at the psych industries, since covering up child abuse is technically illegal, but it is the primary societal function of the scientifically fraud based psych industries today.
I’m pretty certain ODD only became a DSM diagnosis, when the “childhood bipolar epidemic” started to become an embarrassment to the DSM debunked “mental health industries.”
“Diagnosis should be a bridge to healing, not a life sentence based on a single misjudged moment.” I agree.
And the DSM “diagnoses,” which were confessed to be “bullshit,” by Allen Frances who was the primary editor of the DSM, in I think 2010, is the truth.
Respect for the “invalid” DSM deluded psychiatrists, et al, should end.
By the way, no “mental health” worker may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … to this day … and it’s all by DSM design.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1
God bless, Melina, keep speaking your truth, and doing the right thing.
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“Perhaps it is the oppressors that are insane.” Or at least the bad systems, and corporations, through which they work. Someone’s gotta say it, right, Viviane?
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Interesting, but that history only points out a big – sin, crime, whatever you want to call it – of the US psychological community.
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Gosh, the psych industries are now telling the Harvard trained lawyers, who speak common sense, that they are the insane ones. How insane can our, shouldn’t be controlled by the psych industries’, society get?
I agree, Jim, “the solution for people without housing is housing.” It breaks my heart when I meet homeless people. I try to help them. There was a homeless woman who was dropped off in a park I frequent recently, by a church that was claiming to help her. She was sweet as pie.
But, the park rangers weren’t going to let her stay there, and both she and I knew it. And it was a park not near to anyone she knew was trying to help her, nor even close to an air conditioned place she could go to escape the extreme heat we’ve been experiencing this summer.
And I think both she and I knew she was possibly on the verge of heat stroke, and I’ve seen what heat stroke can do to a person, and I certainly didn’t want to see that happen to her.
So I drove her to the local library for the day, to cool off, then drove her back to the neighborhood she knew, and had churches that were supposedly trying to help her. Since I’m currently largely without a church or religion, who should have helped her, in my current suburb.
Sometimes, you have to do the best you can, given your current circumstances. I hope Bridget has found a home, and is okay. Let’s please pray to just house the homeless, without the psych industry’s BS.
Much to my claims to Bridget that no financial reparations were expected, nor needed. Bridget insisted on buying me a new pair of flip flops, as a thank you.
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Yes, the wrong “people” (shame on those delusional lawyers, who think people are corporations, and corporations are people) are in charge.
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When I was in kindergarten, my mom ran a math lab at my school. I can’t really say she taught me about “sacred geometry,” since I taught her about that … but in a way she did.
But when we taught a bunch of underprivileged children, who initially “hated math,” about “sacred geometry” in a fun and creative manner, in the S.T.E.A.M. program we were running. I will say those children learned to utilize the creative side of their brains, and did come back telling us they now loved math.
Every elementary school should be teaching training into love of the sciences, technology, engineering, and mathematics, via the arts initially. Since children love learning, by making and creating … and should the love of learning, making, and creating ever really end, for any of us?
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Oh, one other topic that I thought about recently, which I’ve not yet seen discussed here, but think it should be. Is the fact that the US is supposed to have separation of church and state.
But since both the religions and the state have social workers … that means we don’t have separation of church and state (not to the mention the 501c3 issue). But that is one other large systemic crime of the “mental health” industries, at least in the US.
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I’ve never said the West is “the only place where these things are crazy.”
“I don’t see ‘getting rid’ of the systems as an option.” Why not? Have you ever really thought about it? Maybe, as I believe, the “systems” are too corrupted, and by design, to bother even trying to fix?
The psych industries are just one large instance. For example, by DSM design, no “mental health professional” to this day, may ever bill to help any child abuse survivor ever … since that is missing from their debunked DSM billing code “bible.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1
Perhaps, some “systems” are too paternalistically designed, and for evil intent, like systemically covering up child abuse, to even bother trying to reform.
But, psychiatry would have to clean up the societal mess which they’ve created, which will take time. So a bad paternalistic “system,” like the “mental health system,” IMHO, should be weaned out of existence.
I’m not a believer in the concept God created “mental illness.” But as a psychopharmacology researcher, I do know the psychiatrists and other MDs do, with the psych drugs.
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“The elites have a lot of power, and they use it to protect themselves.” And they utilize today’s “mental health” industries to do this for them.
“We all already know that our political and social systems are basically insane. The ‘mental health system’ should be working to fix that, but it isn’t. That is our challenge.”
I agree, we need to get rid of Western civilization’s “insane” “political and social systems” … today’s “insane” societal problems are basically the same problematic industries, as Jesus spoke out against over 2000 years ago … +psychiatry and psychology, et al.
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Psych drugging our children should completely end. For God’s sake, how is it that our society has multiple industries, which think grown adults should be defaming innocent young children, with scientifically “invalid” DSM disorders / “life long, incurable, genetic mental illnesses” … for life? That is disgusting.
In relation to discussing the education system … I as one, who attended one of NY’s best public school systems, back in the early 1970’s; and has experience with both the public and private school systems; and has run art and S.T.E.A.M. programs … I most certainly want to be a part of how to improve the schools.
And, there’s a lot of changes that need to be made, but I’m pretty certain we’ve all already dreamt up how to best fix them. Let’s hope and pray.
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Thank you for the link / links, Jim and psych rights. Thank you for your research, Leah.
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Thank you, Mohamed, for standing with us.
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“anachronistic,” is a totally inappropriate term to use … given the fact we are trying to end today’s totalitarian, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billing system.
And bring about “participatory research [models that are built] on a growing body of scholarship and advocacy that challenges traditional hierarchies in mental health research and calls for centering lived experience in knowledge production. The findings also align with research on how community participation can address the limitations of traditional psychiatric research models by recognizing individuals with lived experience as co-creators of knowledge.”
For God’s sake, why would a psych “professional,” who has never taken a psych med,” know more about the psych “meds,” than a person who has been on them? They wouldn’t, and they don’t.
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“Good science wants to move us closer to truth, and understands that even being proven wrong is a step forward.”
So the so called “mental health professionals,” whose DSM “bible” was debunked as “invalid” in 2013, need to garner insight into reality.
“No doubt science is not the only way we know things. Some things we know using logic. Some things we intuit or just have a feeling about. Some things we’re taught and we accept them as knowledge. Some things we can know using our five senses. Some may come from religious training.”
So the Holy Spiritual blasphemers of the “mental health industries” may want to repent, and change from their “unforgivable” ways?
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“In Libya, psychiatric care — whether public or private — is often built on coercion, not compassion.”
The same is true in the US.
“I was never violent. Never suicidal. Never detached from reality. I was fighting something far more dangerous than madness — I was fighting a culture of fear and suppression masquerading as mental health care.”
I was never any of those things either. But it is rather sick, now that the psych industries have been found to be “invalid,” how desperate they’ve become.
I do appreciate the MDs who are speaking out against the insanity of the debunked psych industries. Thank you, Mohamed.
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This blog largely points out the impropriety of psychologists functioning as funnels into the force drugging psychiatric industry, and why they shouldn’t be doing that. Not to mention, why neither the psychologic nor psychiatric industries should have a right to coerce or force neurotoxic poison anyone.
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My gut is that AI is NOT ready for prime time, too. Certainly, it should NOT be used to regurgitate psychiatry’s many lies / misinformation.
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No offense, Richard, but psychiatry is an iatrogenic illness creation Ponzi scheme. The ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” and “schizophrenia” symptoms. And the antipsychotics can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
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“‘Social prescribing’ has been presented as an effective strategy to mitigate the impact of the social determinants of health. These include referring individuals to art classes, physical activity, or other community alternatives to therapy and medication that help them connect with others and build communities.”
Well, I’m rather new to the concept of “social prescribing.” But after having antidepressant withdrawal induced brain zaps being misdiagnosed as “bipolar, just after 9.11.2001. And having all distress from 9/11 being blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone. By a manic lunatic psychologist, who’d gotten all her misinformation about me from her pastor, and a child abuser’s wife, rather than listening to my legitimate societal concerns.
I will say, art is good therapy, when one is being unjustly attacked, by a crazy DSM deluded, big Pharma forcing, psychologist. Regular, moderate exercise, in nature, was also a key in my healing journey, as was lots of other volunteer community service (for example, I was a planning commissioner of my Village.)
“Another study linked psychosis to poverty, housing and employment instability, and racism. Research has found that due to the disparities associated with psychosis, it cannot be separated from structural racism and social inequality.”
Neither can the psych industries’ forced druggings with the anticholinergic drugs, since all MD’s are taught in med school that the anticholinergic drugs (like the antidepressants and antipsychotics) can create psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome.
But I will agree, once one escapes the evil of psychological and psychiatric anticholinergic toxidrome attempted murders, one is then faced with systemic, attempted financial destruction, and shitloads of thievery, and attempted thievery.
“Critical psychologists have cautioned about how the practice of addressing social determinants of health is being approached. This is due to many turning social factors into individual issues, when there is a blatant need to address our society’s problems instead.”
Wake up to reality, DSM deluded psych lunatics, please … your DSM “bible” was debunked in 2013.
“In a previous study, mental health providers were found to endorse right-wing authoritarianism and ignore the needs of the hypothetical person for whom they were referred for treatment.”
Well, as one who was “referred for treatment” to a lunatic psychologist, instead of a medical doctor, as I requested, by an assh-le pastor, I will say this is not the problem.
But us “hypothetical” people are real, not “fictional,” as my medical records wrongly state.
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Haven’t we all “lived through madness and distress” already? For goodness sake, Covid was societal madness, so was 9/11/01, and both were legitimately distressing. No doubt, it’s past time for the psych industries to take a long hard look in the mirror … and come towards understanding the hard truth … it’s past time for big change, scientifically “invalid” DSM “bible” billers.
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“’What is Reality?’ is a deep and profound question that has not been answered by Psychiatry. That answer needs to be answered first before condemning someone to being ‘not in touch with reality.’”
Good point, Consciousness. I like your pseudonym, by the way.
“Your perception is your reality. At the same time, we do Not define other people’s realities.” I agree, that’s a pretty good definition of reality. “… Don’t let someone else define your reality.”
But that is exactly what, I think it was all, of the “mental health professionals” that I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with did, or tried to do … you should read the thievery/conservatorship contract a psychologist handed me. Talk about a control freak nut job!
And what was even sicker was he had hacked into my computer, and was literally following me on the internet for years (after I’d reported him to the police once), talk about the epitome of creepy … not to mention downright criminal. Plus, Google told me he had set up a website, utilizing my name and one of my emails, apparently so he could try to gaslight me from within my own computer, and rewrite my life’s story, I would imagine? Creepy!
MiA, “This content is restricted to buyers of .”??? Is there more?
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I’m so very grateful to the honest British psychologists, especially you, John Read. Since the American psychologists, that I’ve had the misfortune of being confronted by, “want to maintain the status quo” – which is misdiagnosing the common withdrawal effects of the antidepressants as bipolar – which leads one into a very literal, drug induced, living hell.
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The staggering magnitude of harm, that the “mental health” industries are doing … especially to our children … is horrendous.
As one who has a really sweet love story in my dreams, that I am not just the “bad,” or good truth telling, mother of my own children … but a truth teller to all of the younger generations.
Tonight, I took a walk to my local convenience store, to buy stuff I shouldn’t be eating. But it was kind of cute that there were a bunch of high school aged young men, who were playing outside and stopped playing when they saw me … and they led me safely towards my local convince store. So the sweet love story of my dreams seemingly also exists in my waking hours … at least I hope and pray.
Thank you, Mr. Whitaker, for your continued truth telling … let’s save all the children … from the systemic harms of the scientifically “invalid,” DSM “bible” billing, industries.
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“Trauma is subjective. It can shift with support, insight, and reframing. Its healing lies in meaning-making.
“Personal abuse is objective. It involves wrongdoing, moral breach, and requires truth-telling and repair.
“Systemic abuse blends the two. It distorts trauma to hide abuse and uses institutional power to deny both.”
Beautiful synopsis of the “mental health” industries’ systemic abuse, Maram. And it’s all by DSM design, since no DSM “bible” biller today, may ever bill for ethically and truthfully helping any child abuse survivor ever.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1
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“The authors explain” … “they hope that it can inspire people to think differently and more broadly about some of the taken-for-granted assumptions and principles underlying much of what goes on in the psy-disciplines.”
Yes, “when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.” Please stop assuming you are the judges of all innocent people on the planet, “mental health professionals.” Since you are NOT, God is the judge of all, including you.
Thank you for pointing these rather blatantly obvious sins of the “mental health” industries, Micah.
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“Is it time to consider the possibility that the entire field is a failed enterprise, a wrong turn in human history?” Indeed, I think it is. Thank you for this well written blog, Patrick.
And that comes from a decades long psychopharmacology researcher, and innocent, but formerly well insured person, who had the misfortune of dealing with both political and criminal abuse of the scientifically “invalid” psych industries … so they could cover up a “bad fix” on a broken bone for incompetent doctors, and medical evidence of the abuse of my three year old child for a pastor … two illegal activities.
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Great comments, my friends. And thank you, as always, for your truth telling, Dr. Peter Gøtzsche.
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“The fear that citizens suffer of being interned in an asylum turns all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized into terrorist states that have built a “chemical apartheid” for abnormal people.”
Well, I would say too many artists (instead of “abnormal people”) especially the visual artists, since “a picture paints a thousand words,” so a bunch of pictures about psychiatric harms, tells a damning story about the systemic crimes of both the psychological and psychiatric system (you may see a few of my pieces here, under the art section).
Marc Chagall painted the psychiatric / Spiritual war against the Jews, decades ago. And as a “Chicago Chagall,” I took a lot of inspiration from his work, and I painted the Spiritual / psychiatric and psychological crimes being committed against the American population today.
So I agree with you, “all states in which forced treatments have been legalized and legitimized [are] terrorist states.”
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It is “way past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers.
For goodness sake, to the “mental health professionals’,” who are still claiming ignorance, of the fact that their DSM “bible” was debunked as “bulls-t” and “invalid” long ago. It is not time to “maintain the status quo.” Stealing from the widows in a church, that you don’t even attend, but you are unethically “partnered” with, is unacceptable human behavior. Proclaiming “all mosaic art is bad public art,” to steal a person’s time, defame their art form, and to prevent an artist in the church you are unethically “partnered” with from getting an art grant, is thievery of my time, insane, unethical, and morally wrong … and unacceptable human behavior.
It is long “past time for a large portion of humble pie and [] some honesty,” from the DSM “bible” billers. Flush your DSM, if you don’t, you are the insane people, among the .05% of the population, that may not be staying on this planet.
God is sick and tired of the DSM deluded, mass murdering, psych “professions” repeating the worst of history … over and over again.
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What is “far above” your “expectations in terms of chat quality?” And, out of curiosity, what language do you speak, and where are you from?
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NPR should be defunded, if it doesn’t report on subjects like psychiatry’s debacles, like this report does. So thank you, NPR, for reporting the truth.
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Yes, all of societies’ ills result from the love of “MONEY,” and the Ponzi scheme of the usury based banking systems, that create money out of nothing. Jesus forewarned us of this problem, over 2000 years ago.
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Thank you for encouraging use of Soteria Houses, Open Dialogue, et al, Yair. Thank you for allowing open dialogue on important matters, MiA.
Crab, maybe what we need to do is try to end WWII for the Israelis, not start WWIII? Let’s all pray, “Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with” us.
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“However, researchers who have reviewed this 60-year database of RCTs have not found a single trial that assessed the merits of an antipsychotic in first-episode, medication-naïve patients.”
I did try to test this, since I had a loved one, who was dealing with alcohol encephalitis, which mimics the symptoms of “schizophrenia,” but he was in his late 50’s when this happened, not young. I asked doctors to avoid the anticholinergic drugs (antidepressants, antipsychotics et al), since I knew both me and my grandmother, neither of whom were dealing with alcohol encephalitis nor “psychosis,” were made ungodly sick on them.
And, in much as I’ve yet to be given the right to see my loved one’s medical records, and don’t think he’s even picked them up himself, so can’t claim to know with certainty. But, in as much as I know the anticholinergic drugs are problematic for innocent females, who speak out against the systemic child abuse covering up problems within our society. I don’t know whether or not the neuroleptics are, in a very short run manner, a needed short run fix for alcohol encephalitis, which may likely be a probable common cause of psychosis.
But I have been pointing out for decades that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics, used long term, in combination, or inappropriately, are very dangerous. Because the anticholinergic drugs can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Not to mention, if used long term, they result in a nasty drug withdrawal induced manic “psychosis,” but which also for me, was also an awakening.
I did find that a benzos didn’t work short term for my loved one, but maybe (I don’t know, since I haven’t seen my loved one’s medical records) an antipsychotic did work short term, then a short term course of a low dose of lithium did work. My loved one has been psych drugs free, and doing well for a while.
Thank you, Mr. Whitaker, for all you do, and say. And thank you for letting us independent medical researchers allow to speak.
And I do agree with you, James, ”ignorance is no excuse for the law,” so the psych “professionals,” who now all claim ignorance, when no medically trained doctor can claim ignorance, are not innocent. Wake up lawyers.
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I learned in freshman year of college to not bother hating others. I had volunteered to drive a freshman corridor member to the airport, since I was an alternative student senator, so was one of the only people in my freshman corridor who was allowed to have a car.
She swore horribly as we drove to the airport, and showed less than zero respect to me, for what I volunteered to do for her. I hated her for one week.
But she didn’t care, so I realized hating anyone was a waste of my time and energy.
“hatred is actually one aspect of love.” Maybe, or hate is based upon jealousy, et al. Nonetheless, the opposite of love is fear, not hate, so have no fear.
“Furthermore, Malherbe believes that there may be a foundational role for hatred in progressive politics, specifically a radical hatred that is a ‘hatred of systematized hatred.'”
And we do have bad systems in Western civilization, like the DSM deluded psych industries.
“He mentions cases in progressive political circles where transphobia, homophobia, sexual assault, and other interpersonal problems emerge. These forms of hatred are intrapersonally, interpersonally, and politically destructive.”
Well, as the mom of a gay and trans child, both of whom I love, but my trans child currently won’t speak to me, and seemingly hates me. I hope he can work through his, and his significant other’s, hatred of me. Please pray for my family.
Psychiatry and psychology really went in the wrong direction, I don’t personally believe DSM deluded psychiatry is savable, and needs to be weaned out of existence, once they’ve cleaned up the appalling mess they’ve created. And I believe the Jungians are the only hope the psychologists have in saving any possible respectability for their industry.
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“My academic work, my teaching, and now my clinical training in spiritual care and psychotherapy are all shaped by that lived experience.”
Thank you for admitting the psychologists are “partners” with the paternalistic pastors, since I already have medical and legal evidence of this, and their systemic, faustian child abuse covering up “partnership” is problematic.
“My grounding in practical theology helped me approach these memoirs not just as data, but as sites of spiritual meaning, places where deep questions about pain, God, and care are being worked out in real time.”
Let’s all pray to bring about God’s actual will on this planet, and end Satan’s reign.
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“Therapy is not about indoctrination — it’s about liberation.”
That was the antithesis of my experience with therapy. And given the reality that both bipolar and schizophrenia are iatrogenic illnesses, created with the psychiatric neurotoxins, and your DSM was debunked in 2013. You should probably rethink your maltreatment of those you delude yourself into believing are “bipolar” and “schizophrenic,” or “OCD.”
“liberation requires honesty.”
I agree, liberty requires honesty and free speech.
“Silence benefits the status quo. And the status quo is deeply oppressive.”
Yes, I dealt with a satanically controlled psychologist, who I refused to hire, who wanted to steal all my money and work, and murder my child, to “maintain the status quo,” merely because my wonderful and brilliant child survived child abuse. The psych industries’, by DSM design, who work within systemic child abuse covering up systems, are most definitely not innocent.
“let’s be real: most modern therapy was never meant to dismantle oppression. It was built to help people cope with it — quietly. Western therapy … pathologizes resistance. It tells people to regulate their emotions before asking whether those emotions are, in fact, entirely appropriate reactions to political abandonment and systemic betrayal.”
And Western civilization does have bad systems, which include all the corrupt DSM “bible” billing industries, but also the bad banking, maritime legal, and even, I think now, all of Rockefeller medical, Pharma, mainstream religious systems, et al.
“We need clinicians who understand that the real risk isn’t speaking up — it’s staying silent while injustice becomes normalized.”
And it is the psych industries who are the most guilty when it comes to “injustice” becoming “normalized.”
“Stop minimizing systemic trauma to keep your comfort intact. Clients don’t need you to save them. But they do need you to stand with them — to see them, believe them, and name the truth with them.”
And certainly stop declaring the entirety of the truth tellers’ lives to be “a credible fictional story” in our medical records.
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We are living in upside down and backwards world, I painted that way back in 2005. Wake up, ladies and gentlemen.
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“We can also say that it is possible that psychiatric drugs are being used as weapons to increase the number of ‘mental ill (illnesses)’ and ‘mentally patients’ people. Anyway, these are serious issues that need to be ‘discussed separately’.”
Not so certain that they need to be discussed separately, I think now and here is the time and place.
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“Just because you don’t understand what I am saying, doesn’t mean I am psychotic”.
I never used that phrase, but I agree, all should have the right to use it. I reminded doctors of anticholinergic intoxication, so they would treat a loved one appropriately … which all are freely welcomed to do as well.
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“Always, always, always trust yourself,” … trust your gut, ladies and gentlemen.
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Maintain the Hope.
“The LLM is obviously programmed to not offer medical advice,” but seemingly freely offers the beliefs of the scientifically “invalid” DSM deluded.
“… once a geek – always a geek,” “… too school for cool” here, comrade. I always loved my engineer clients, and still do. Thank you.
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“… the implementation of AI is fraught with peril, especially in medical care.” Indeed.
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Thank you to our military for joining the fight, I’ve painted the fight against the DSM psych industries as a war, Marc Chagall also painted this. Nonetheless, I’m heartbroken that psychiatry is mass murdering our veterans with their neurotoxins, and for profit.
Just an FYI, it’s rather creepy that you can’t watch the video, without agreeing to let facebook track you. For goodness sakes, many of those of us here, use a pseudonym for safety reasons. Since pointing out the medical evidence of the iatrogenic etiology of “the sacred symbol of psychiatry” does rather make one at least enemy number two, thanks Robert Whitaker, to big Pharma.
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This is almost a perfect description of exactly how my marriage was destroyed by a supposed “holistic, Christian talk therapist,” who also claimed to be a “family therapist.” But I wasn’t even an alcoholic, just an innocent woman who married into a highly dysfunctional and apparently satan, and psych industry, controlled family.
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A paradigm change is definitely needed, for both the psychological and psychiatric industries, especially since they lack wisdom into most philosophical thought.
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I agree. Especially since any time one combines the anticholinergic drugs (and both the antidepressants and the antipsychotics are anticholinergic drugs), one runs the risk of causing anticholinergic toxidrome, the symptoms of which look like schizophrenia to the psychiatrists.
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Was it Dr. Peter Gotzche who asked if the psychiatrists were crazier than their patients? Yes, they are, indeed … new low, after new low, after new low, psych industries.
“When it’s time to change,” we’ve got to rearrange, who we are and what we’re going to be. Awaken with the Holy Spirit, and pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit, “mental health professionals,” and welcome in the common sense, please.
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Psychiatry did turn “Life into Illness,” and sadly psychology turned itself into a funnel to the neurotoxic poisoners of psychiatry, instead of listeners.
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No offense, psychologic industry, but you all bought into the billing code “bible” of the psychiatric industry’s ‘invalid’ DSM “bible,” which was debunked as “invalid” in 2013, by the head of the NIMH.
Yet too many of you, who have also unethically “partnered” with the mainstream paternalistic religions, who want to “maintain the status quo,” long after 2013, actually should repent and change from your evil ways. Instead of merely pretending you’re changing from your evil ways, without repentance, and ending your faustian “partnerships.”
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I do agree that society should “depsychiatrize,” since their “bible” was debunked as “invalid,” by the head of the NIMH in 2013, as well as being confessed to be “BS” by the head editor(s) of the DSM(s).
And those of us here all know that the psych industries’ neurotoxins, can and do create the symptoms of their DSM “disorders.” (Please see my prior comments on MiA if you’d like to see my links to prove this.)
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All DSM “bible” billers are the guilty, based upon my experience, and medical records. And they should all repent, burn their “invalid” DSM billing code “bible,” and change from their evil, pathological lying, and highly delusional ways.
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That happened to me, Vee. Thank goodness my insurance company refused to pay for me to be institutionalized for life, by doctors, one of whom was eventually convicted by the FBI.
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I agree, Dr. Peter, prescribing of depression pills absolutely must end in all of child bearing age, and younger. But I don’t think there is a need for use of that class of drugs, for anyone of any age, in the long run. Thus, I believe use of antidepressants should eventually end – let those on them, who find them useful, or don’t want to go through withdrawal, stay on them; but wean those who want to be taken off them, off them.
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Thank you.
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That’s what they’ve been doing for decades, with all their psychiatric neurotoxins.
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I almost did not read past the first couple sentences, because I was afraid it might make me cry. In the summer of 2009, I met a couple of Israelis outside a hotel in downtown Chicago. They were speaking in Yiddish, which sounds similar to German. I asked if they were from Germany, and this greatly offended them. They told me the Germans were the enemy, and that they were from Israel. I apologized for my error, and we made polite small talk, until we finished our cigarettes. But, it had never occurred to me in my waking hours, prior to that conversation, that for at least some Israelis, WWII never ended. And this gave me a great deal of empathy for the people of Israel. I pray all the wars, everywhere on this planet, end soon.
Nonetheless, I’m glad I continued reading, because I absolutely agree, art heals. Painting, journaling, dancing, gardening, and music all helped me heal. Making art allowed me to get the evil out. Journaling allowed me to make sense of the insanity of today’s “mental health” industries. Gardening allowed me to commune with nature. And since I can basically tell my entire life’s story, as if I were a muse for the musicians, in music lyrics … well, ‘music has charms to sooth a savage beast.’ And dancing goes hand in hand with music, and is a good way to get the extra energy of a drug withdrawal induced super sensitivity mania out. God bless you on your healing journey, Yishay.
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No-one,
As one who shares a nickname with you, within the websites of my dreams – which are organized like the internet of the “collective unconscious” / dream world – which is probably why most people’s dreams are confusing to them. But of what I know of my awakenings to my dreams, makes sense to me, and they are where I find the common sense of all.
I will say last night I was a bad girl, I went to my local convince store to buy some ice cream. I was in line between two black woman. One was complaining about all the, largely financial based, problems in her life to the other. I don’t know if the women knew one another.
But gradually, I entered into the conversation … agreed with the complaining woman that it was difficult to live in a different state than the rest of her family. And asked her why she moved here. Eventually I asked the woman frustrated with life’s problems, if she’d do me a favor. I politely asked her to consider praying two prayers.
I asked her to pray one night to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then when she felt ready, to pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
Initially, she was a bit defensive, since she hadn’t been going to church recently. As the listening black women was checking out she asked me about what religion I belonged to. I told both women I’m in between religions right now. But then I mentioned … that doesn’t mean you have to stop believing in the Triune God.
I then told them both I was friends with a couple pastors, who I used to work with, and I knew their hearts were in the right place. So I recommended their church to them. The complaining women then asked me for the prayer suggestions again, and she was so grateful, that she bought my ice cream for me, despite her financial problems. Of course, I did “pay it forward” for her in return.
But this whole personal story does lead me to the polite suggestion for you too, No-one, and everyone else, to please also consider praying those two prayers.
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All psych drugging of children, and people of child bearing age, needs to be ended, worldwide.
https://www.madinamerica.com/2025/05/two-decades-of-pssd-a-life-stolen-by-antidepressants/?unapproved=315191&moderation-hash=83001b859e241a39fa3bdab96651a954#comment-315191
I believe Jon’s story points out a very important reason why our society absolutely needs to stop psych neurotoxic poisoning all children, as well as all of child bearing age, who might possibly like to have children and live a normal and happy life … which is pretty much the entire population.
Thank you, Peter, for your continued truthful reporting.
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You are very modest, Jon, your research and efforts are very impressive. And, as one who was also, misjudged – in your case for stupid reasons, in my case for stupid and nefarious reasons – and harmed with the anticholinergic drugs. I hope you don’t mind if I link your story in a comment in yesterday’s article about the antidepressants, by Peter Simons.
I believe your story points out a very important reason why our society absolutely needs to stop psych neurotoxic poisoning all children, as well as all of child bearing age, who might possibly like to have children and live a normal life. God bless you in your healing and research journeys, Jon.
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“Laughter is the best medicine,” as they say, and as I mentioned in a highlighted youtube comment recently. And I do tend to get my news, from comedians, on both the left and right. Largely because the divide and conquer strategy of the mainstream media, that is destroying the country in which I live, is obnoxious. And it’s better to laugh at one’s insane society, rather than to cry.
And, hey, Kermit Cole, who comes in the name of my eldest son, and other relatives. We did sort of, possibly, “cure” schizophrenia … or we could, since we found the iatrogenic etiology of schizophrenia. Given the fact that the antipsychotics can create the positive symptoms of schizophrenia, via anticholinergic toxidrome; and the negative symptoms can be created, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Albeit, we also know there are many other psycho/social – but not “genetic” – causes of schizophrenia symptoms. Please see my comment on yesterday’s Dr. Peter Gøtzsche’s post on MiA, of the ones I know of, and add any more, of which, I may still be unaware.
https://www.madinamerica.com/2025/05/are-psychiatrists-more-mad-than-their-patients/
Laughter is the best medicine, psychiatrists, not defaming people with “invalid” DSM disorders, and neurotoxic poisoning people. Please wake up, psychiatry.
Thank you for the interview, Mr. Whitaker and Mr. Cole.
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Or, duckduckgo, research it. I haven’t googled it lately.
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I do like your idea of memorials for those harmed and killed by the psych industries, Cat. May I put my hat in the ring to make the memorials, if funding is ever raised for Cat’s good idea?
I need to design a memorial for my father’s grave. And have come up with an idea, and it – or something similar – might also be a cool design for such memorials to the many harmed and killed by the psychiatrists.
I’ve been doing research into sacred geometry, which is basically the mathematics behind everything in God’s universe. And sacred geometry designs are supposed to have healing properties, and are visually appealing to humans.
I’ve concluded that to make my dad’s memorial, I should probably take a class in 3-D printing, and I have found a local university that teaches it. Because I need to come up with a 3-D model of my design, in order to have it caste in bronze.
In essence what I have in mind is a 3-D image of a flower of life, that has a rising sun, worked into the design, the location of which is based upon the fibonacci spiral. If you don’t know anything about sacred geometry (since it’s not taught in the US schools), this may be difficult to envision, but you can google it. And I think it’s a cool idea for a memorial.
I plan to also put a stylized image of an olive tree (roots, slightly gnarly trunk, and branches) in my dad’s memorial, since his hobby was genealogy. Then I thought I’d mount it on some granite, probably. The size of the bronze part could be 21″ x 21″ or 42″ x 42″ or 21″ x 34″, or possibly larger, so there’s lots of options.
At least I’d like to throw my hat into the ring for consideration, as an artist and designer, if Cat’s idea ever found funding.
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Thank you, Dr. Peter Gøtzsche for your consistent truth telling.
“Psychiatry should be demolished and built up from the ground, focusing on psychosocial interventions, as recently recommended by the United Nations and the WHO.50”
Personally, I believe that psychiatry should focus on learning to wean people off the psych neurotoxins (in essence to minimize the mess they’ve created). Then psychiatry, as a medical profession, should gradually be weaned out of existence.
As to psychology, the non-medically trained psychologists should not be diagnosing anyone with anything. And, as one who believes the Jungians are the closest to the truth, they could research into things like the collective unconscious, etc. (in other words, no clinical work).
Or, maybe since they are already “partnered” with the religions, I suppose that as long as everyone is made aware of this relationship (in other words, the churches could pay the psychologists, but they should never ever charge a client, fraudulently implying they work for the client, then run off to get lies and gossip from a pastor about the client, as happened to me). But since I already know this is a faustian partnership, it’s probably better that “partnership” is ended.
But if the psychologists actually want to help people, they should become helpers, largely unrelated, to the medical field, in places like Soteria Houses or healing farms, and the like.
“And all treatment needs to be voluntary.11,12” I agree, forced and coerced treatment should eventually be made illegal. But this gets tricky, when it comes to someone who is psychotic.
So who will help a person who is experiencing psychosis, you may ask? Based on experience with a loved one, I know families do need help in such cases. A short course of benzos? That didn’t work for my loved one, but it may be a good place to start. A short course (like one or two days) of neuroleptics might at least calm the person down, allow them to sleep, but then you do run the risk of a drug withdrawal induced super sensitivity manic psychosis. But if you follow the antipsychotic up, in a healing space, for a week or two, with a low dose of lithium. And then reduce the lithium within a month to six weeks. Well, just an antidotal case, but that is what helped my loved one.
I guess the “healing space” should begin in the hospital. But once the person is stabilized on the lithium, if they do need a safe space until they get weaned off the lithium. I do believe we should move towards alternatives like Soteria houses, healing farms, maybe open dialogue, and give me more ideas, ladies and gentlemen. If a person is actually violent, then the police likely should deal with them. But the paramedics and police are not very good about assessing whether a psychotic person is dangerous, unless they are told the person is not dangerous. (There’s been too much psychiatric brainwashing of the public.)
As to what are the causes of psychosis?
street drugs
alcohol encephalitis
the ADHD drugs
the anticholinergic drugs (antidepressants, antipsychotics, etc.)
drug interactions
psych drug withdrawal
trauma
sleep deprivation
None of which are “genetic” etiologies. But do add to the list, if you can. And please make other suggestions for alternatives, or disagree with me, and explain why we should not move in this direction, please … I’m still just thinking through it.
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“this study confirms that artificial intelligence does not provide a solution to human stigma. In fact, without explicit countermeasures and community oversight, large language models (LLMs) risk automating existing prejudices on an unprecedented scale.”
Thank you for finally defining a LLM, for those of us who are not computer specialists. And I agree,
“This work reinforces the calls from the consumer-survivor-ex-patient movement to involve individuals with lived experiences at every stage of technology design, evaluation, and deployment.”
Smart younger generation ADHD, bipolar defamed, et al … us older, not terribly computer savvy, need your help, please.
Thank you for your truthful reporting, Kevin.
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Of course, “Coercion in Psychiatric Wards Tied to Worse Recovery.” And forced and coerced psych drugging is horribly anti-democratic. If the psych “professions” can’t, without coercion and force, sell their neurotoxins, then they need to change their business model. And that is what needs to happen.
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