“The actuality of being tied down and shot up with a mind-altering substance, perhaps transported while blacked out to another facility and threatened with the same if exercising any level of free speech — is not yet captured here.”
Well, that’s exactly what happened to me, prior to dealing with the now FBI convicted V. R. Kuchipudi … so it has been mentioned on this website.
But I absolutely agree, “Force is used to subdue the person who objects to objectionable [mal]treatment.”
I’m glad to hear some are getting their antidepressant induced lack of sexuality back. But as one who was given Wellbutrin for smoking cessation, which did not work. But who did want some afternoon delight, one day ever, whose husband couldn’t handle that … but he did come from a dysfunctional family that has psych drugged up many of the women in his family.
I will point out the opposite issue with Wellbutrin … not that I’m recommending that drug. But I will say, it is quite disgusting that the psych industries are screwing with others’ sex drives and lives.
I haven’t researched into who you are, Kevin, so forgive me for that … and please educate me about who you are. But out of curiosity, can you deny the medical evidence that the anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and antipsychotics) can create anticholinergic toxidrome? And do you have any medical proof that neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome does not exist?
“They call for an ‘urgent movement away from coercive care practices’ and for investments that make voluntary, low-barrier, community supports a reality and accessible.”
I agree, giving any faction of society the right to play judge, jury, and executioner to others within society – which the “invalid” psych professions were unwisely given – needs to end.
I agree, getting a psychotic loved one away from the systemic anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning “mental health industries,” and into nature, did help me help him heal.
Albeit, not without him doing his part in healing, due to a truthful understanding of the actual etiology of his psychosis.
Mary, are you referring to the systemic problem of the “mental health professionals” regularly turning their clients into scape goats? And I know I was railroaded by pathological lying “mental health professionals,” so I do need to get that Railroaded painting I’ve been meaning to do, painted.
As one who was made ungodly sick, by an antidepressant (incorrectly claimed to be a “safe smoking cessation med,” which it most definitely is NOT) and an opioid, which was sold to me as a “safe pain med” (again which it most definitely is NOT) … so doctors could cover up easily recognized malpractice, with complex iatrogenesis.
I agree, the psych industries and mainstream medical doctors, lying to their patients that their neurotoxins are “safe,” to “treat” legal vices, is extremely unethical and staggeringly harmful.
“As a communications director at a large ad agency, I faced sexism and a 24/7 work schedule that left me with no room to breathe.”
I dealt with a similar, but not identical situation.
“Therapy was just what I needed. How nice to sit with someone who listens to you without distraction and helps you navigate the pain.”
Sadly, that was 100% the opposite of what I found “therapy” to be.
“My so-called ‘detox’ aka weaning was not simple. It was horrible—nausea, headaches, dizziness, horrible dreams, brain zaps, and this feeling of intense dread and uncomfortableness. Every day was a fight to stay focused and productive.”
My misdiagnosis of similar symptoms of antidepressant withdrawal was what my experience of “therapy” was all about.
“My generation never needed to slap ‘Be Kind’ on mugs and bumper stickers. We were taught to be kind. We were expected to respect our elders, our neighbors, and even strangers on the street. We also learned how to get along with people who weren’t our cup of tea, because everyone deserves a seat at the table. It was not all about us. You didn’t have to like everyone, but you had to respect them, listen to them, and coexist.”
As a 1964 born baby boomer, I will say, except the baby boomers were never taught to respect the younger people in our society.
“In America, antidepressants are often prescribed as the first line of defense to stress, sadness, or difficulty, leaving people less equipped to build resilience and cope with life’s challenges on their own.”
I agree.
“But for far too many, drugs have become the casual default answer rather than the last resort.”
Yes, especially for those within the younger generations.
“I was working for a company I loved, with a boss I respected, at a job that felt purposeful again. So why was I taking pills meant to ‘cure’ something that was never broken?”
Basically, greed is the answer.
“I am an empath. I feel things deeply. I lose my temper. I fight for justice, I get cranky, and I lash out at times. All of these traits were stymied while I was on Lexapro. Now, I welcome back the true Diane—with all her flaws.”
I had an aunt Diana, who fought for decades against cancer, who I do believe may have given up her life for my youngest child, since she died the same day my youngest was born – but who knows? Only God likely knows, but I do believe God loves the Dianes and Dianas. God bless, Diane.
Thank you for saying that, since I’ve had several awakenings to my dreams, which are organized like the internet, with lots of websites – one for each human soul, and more. And, according to my dreams, I am a big sis and/or mother to the younger generations. I do have a mother Marion, so she, too, hangs out in the mother Marion website of our dreams.
According to my dreams, the goal of the Holy Spirit is to get everyone and everyone else to agree to be one in the Spirit, one in the Lord. I do also believe the Holy Spirit functions as a muse to humanity, and comes bearing gifts, in the hopes humanity will not kill the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Please say two short prayers, if you haven’t already. Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit. According to the awakening of my dreams, that is when you will be given “the greatest gift of all.”
Gotta love the Bobs. And my current ethical and intelligent doctor, is a Richard, so many of the Riches are good guys too. Thank God for the good guys.
Given the fact that the psych survivors and independent psych researchers, have found the iatrogenic etiologies of all the “invalid” DSM psych “disorders.”
I definitely agree, “psychiatric-survivor knowledge” and independent psych researchers, “as a form of scholarship in its own right,” is invaluable.
Many thanks, Robert Whitaker … but as a psych survivor researcher, I would like to be given respect for finding the medical evidence of the iatrogenic etiology of the “sacred symbol of psychiatry.”
“I am Jewish—my mother was Jewish, and I had a Bar Mitzvah at 13—but I have always found the rest of Leviticus barbaric and repulsive, to the point that I wonder if the Book has been deliberately falsified by an evil scribe. No way would God have told Moses to stone anyone to death, for any reason.”
I agree, God is innately good. Yet, the men of our society regularly neurotoxic poison the women and children of our society, in the hopes of maintaining their paternalistic control over our society … irregardless of which Abrahamic religion they come from.
Who wrote the Bible? … men. So, as a woman, I think systemically neurotoxic poisoning anyone … thus torturing them … is probably worse than stoning anyone. But I agree, this is a paternalistic human problem, more so than a Triune God problem. Since I do believe the Triune God will come with a female aspect, who will help clean up the mess that has been created by a too paternalistic society.
Marc, given the reality that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create both the positive symptoms of schizophrenia, via anticholinergic toxidrome; and can cause the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Albeit, I do understand things like sleep deprivation, street drugs, alcohol encephalitis, and other legal pharmaceuticals can also be the etiology of psychosis – none of which causes is a “genetic” illness, however.
Please do give me some scientific proof that Szasz “was wrong,” Marc Cheminas.
I would imagine your brother is talking about horses, given my Spiritual journey, and Biblical prophesy. And I agree with you, given my medical research findings regarding the iatrogenic effects of the antipsychotics / neuroleptics (see my prior comments on this website).
I, too, had to help keep a brother off these neurotoxins. I was successful, thankfully, and he’s doing well now.
Thank you for sharing your story, Hope. Please know in your heart that you’re doing the right thing … and we do all need hope and love.
By the way, even a small donation to MiA, will give you access to all MiA’s research and reporting … which most definitely tries to be truthful, thus is very important.
“Maya healers are questioning the effects of psychotropic drugs and mistrusting biomedical providers.”
Wisely, I will say, Maya healers. Especially given Robert Whitaker’s research findings, and since I found medical evidence that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome; as well as the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Oh, Richard, Richard, please respond. I have a good doctor, by the name of Richard, who not only took my DSM misdiagnosis, off my medical records. But he also had me teach his Cleveland Clinic students about the truth of psychiatry’s systemic iatrogenic fraud.
So I know there are both good and bad Richards … please choose to be on the side of the good Richards, Richard. And I’ve told you above how to have a “quickening” of your awakening, to do that … two simple prayers.
Not to mention, what I feel like I’ve already pointed out way too often, as the complex iatrogenic symptoms of “schizophrenia,” created with the psychiatric drugs … via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
The reason people seek ‘help’ is because the mainstream doctors, who are dangerously paranoid of a non-existent legitimate malpractice lawsuit, proactively prevent such, with the use of complex psychiatric iatrogenesis. .
I agree. And, as one who had all the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … as I was picking up my medical records from an insane, child abuse covering up, psychologist.
I do agree, psychologists are sometimes insane people, who blame legitimate societal distress, on an individual … which is crazy. We have real societal problems, that should be properly addressed.
Sorry for all you experienced, Cleveland, I agree the medical community, the religions, and our societal systems, are too paternalistic. But as a female “tailor who sings with the Lord,” I do believe Cleveland is a blessed city, that houses the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for a reason.
So I do hope and pray you search for Him, since I believe He is our healer, thus savior. I do have medical evidence Jesus died for my sins, thus prevented me from dying from 14 different egregious anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings. And I believe He’s here to save us all. God bless.
“do SOME people get labeled with ‘bipolar disorder’ or act in the ways described due to inflammation?” Or, as in my case, do some people get the adverse effects of a NSAID, misdiagnosed as “bipolar?”
Not to mention, as documented by Robert Whitaker, the adverse and withdrawal symptoms of the antidepressants and ADHD drugs can also cause what looks like the “bipolar” symptoms.
But both those misdiagnosis issues, which I personally dealt with, are why the scientifically “invalid” DSM “bipolar diagnosis” is unacceptable. Since that diagnosis is really functioning as nothing more than an iatrogenic illness covering up diagnosis … which is, i believe, illegal … not that the lawyers are taking obvious cases of such complex iatrogenesis.
But I will admit, pretty much every doctor I’ve had to deal with subsequently, is quite embarrassed by these forms of complex iatrogenesis being calmly explained to them.
Given the medical evidence that the antidepressants and ADHD drugs can both create the positive symptom of ‘bipolar.’ … “mania.” Which was largely proven, via Robert Whitaker’s research.
And the known medical evidence that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create both the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Which psychiatric “DSM diagnoses make sense” to you, Richard?
Richard quote: “It’s not a defense of DSM to point … this out, but I think we need to remind ourselves of what DSM is trying to do and how, perhaps, impossible it is to do ….” Pardon my editing, hopefully, it made your comment clearer, and my editing was true to your intended meaning.
Nonetheless, I agree what the psychiatrists are trying to do is “impossible.” Largely since distress is part of the human condition, not a “disorder,” nor disease. But wouldn’t that rather be evidence of the “delusions of grandeur” of psychiatry, Pharma, psychology, et al … as opposed to its patients?
“It’s the nature of the task, not simply the fault of the APA, Pharma, psychiatrists and other mental health professionals.” Or as I asked above, maybe it is the fault of the unrepentant “delusions of grandeur” of the – basically avarice only inspired – “mental health professionals,” Pharma, et al.
Mary quote: “Artists always get labeled bipolar but all of the artistic path is cyclical. Artist[s] create more than not from the trauma of life.”
Yes, a warning to all my fellow artists and designers … as an artist/designer who had all the legitimate worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 blamed upon a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone, by an easily recognized malpractice and child abuse covering up psychologist … when I was picking up her doctored up medical records.
Maybe Jesus was right to recommend repentance, and changing from one’s evil ways … as opposed to not quickly changing from one’s evil ways nor taking personal responsibility for one’s own “delusions of grandeur,” due to psychiatry’s attempt to do the impossible (for nefarious reasons)?
Maybe the Holy Spirit blaspheming psych industries need to garner insight into the fact that it is not your job, nor right, to be the judges of humanity? That is a “delusion of grandeur,” on your part, since that is actually the job of the Triune God, not you.
But I’m glad some US psychiatrists are finally starting to wake up. They don’t call it the “great awakening” for no reason. May I suggest a couple of simple prayers for a quickening of your awakening, US DSM deluded? Especially given the fact that Jesus is supposed to “come like a thief in the night.” Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
Great, and very important interview, Mr. Whitaker, Johanna, and Adam. I am so grateful for those speaking truth to power to the FDA, many thanks.
And I agree with Mary OMalley, there is a staggeringly level of disrespect for women and children, in our society … but especially in regards to the too paternalistically designed “mental health professions,” and their too paternalistic mainstream religious “partners.”
Well, since we no longer live in a society where anyone has any privacy, due to the internet, and a lot of illegal marketing practices going on there. I will say, there is such a thing as illegal “involuntary treatment.” And it’s a systemic problem.
“Fun, freedom, and the unpredictability of life are not things therapists are certified to provide, and they are not commodities money can buy. But they may be the raw material of recovery.”
I agree, Dan.
“The only use a therapist may have is to help the client find such engagement, joy, risk, connection and challenge. There is no secret wisdom to be shared.” I agree, Steve.
But sadly, my so called “psych” industry “professionals,” and their pastoral “partners,” were elder easily recognized malpractice and systemic child abuse covering up lunatics, by DSM design. Who had delusions of grandeur they were Jesus or God, while having no clue about who I am. Not to mention who the third aspect of the Triune God is, since they were all Holy Spirit blasphemers.
“It’s about living life and doing what we need to do. Talking only helps if it gets one living again!” I agree. “And a degree hardly qualifies one to be capable of helping find that inspiration. Help is wherever we find it!” Again, I agree.
Thank God for my friends, who helped me when I had the misfortune of dealing with my Holy Spirit blaspheming, gas lighting, inappropriate coerced and forced anticholenergic toxidrome attempted murdering, “psych professionals,” … who are now trying to proclaim ignorance and innocence of their, and their industries’, sins.
I’m quite certain the Triune God is not nearly as stupid, as the mass murdering, scientifically “invalid,” Holy Spirit blaspheming, elder, DSM deluded, too paternalistic, “psych professions.”
If I’m not incorrect, anyone can become a “subscriber” on MiA for a $20 dollar donation. But I do agree, Dead Soul, “NO ONE wants to hear from these professional evildoers going ‘wow, am I maybe actually hurting people?'” including the scientifically “invalid” psychologists.
But please give everyone a little respect, including a possibly trying to be honest American psychologist, who is married to Mr. Whitaker. Who is probably terrified by the enormous systemic fraud, deceit, and lies of her industry, which have destroyed the entirety of her industry’s credibility, not to mention our entire nation.
I know that’s why I had to leave my ex-religion – “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion” – due to their too paternalist psychological / medical / religious industries’ faustian “partnership.”
We aren’t the crazy ones, those trying to maintain Satan’s and Western civilization’s “bad systems,” that many American’s families risked life and limb to move away from, but unwisely brought with us, are the problem. But we are older and wiser now, so hopefully, we are the solution, as well.
We are the one’s who want to save American society, by ridding ourselves of the bad globalist systems … so hopefully, we are the solution, as well as the one’s who pointed out the too paternalistic bad systems. A little respect for the women is in order, boys. Pray to God.
I remember, when dealing with my systemic child abuse covering up “mental health professionals” – since the DSM “bible” thumpers can’t even bill to help child abuse survivors, nor their legitimately concerned mothers – thinking “don’t judge a book by its cover.”
The psych industries, from my perspective, seem to be all about misjudging “a book by its cover.” Despite the reality that God is the judge of all of humanity, not the so called, “mental health professionals.”
BTW, let’s not forget that the symptoms of the “Cluster A Personality Disorders” (so called “psychotic disorders”) can be created with today’s “schizophrenia” treatments, via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Is psychiatry now changing the name of “schizophrenia,” to “Cluster A Personality Disorders?”
Tonight, I was listening to this more truthful than most psych doc’s talks, and I must say, it must have been a few hard interviews, for him to do.
Although I do understand the need for brief extended treatment for alcohol encephalitis, which is not even in the DSM (although I do know “Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome, [is] recognized under alcohol-related disorders.”)
But that is an example of why the medical community’s habit of renaming things only causes miscommunication issues. Thankfully my loved one’s doctor spoke the truth, in English, not psychiatric medical language.
I found the best treatment for alcohol encephalitis is with a low dose of lithium, for a short period of time … so long as your loved one agrees to stop drinking too much. And with the truth spoken in English, as opposed to the reality denying, made up psychiatric named disorders.
if you stood, or now stand against, the forced and/or coerced drugging of the Covid debacle. You should also stand against all forced and coerced drugging of any person, by the scientifically “invalid” “mental health industries.”
As one who now has Google literally seemingly hacking into my computer, since us here on MiA are discussing important and relevant topics. I will say, it’s not likely just me dealing with computer hacking crimes, MiA may be also, so sorry to MiA and their commenters. I do think MiA is trying to ethically report on important truths, which big Pharma and the psych industries want to deny … and also seemingly the computer industries
I remember when I learned the ADHD drugs were stimulant drugs, as a not too stupid person, who had the common sense to know the stimulants are largely illegal for good reason. I knew evil was in charge of the psych industries.
I do hope the psych industries, and the mainstream medical community, will some day garner insight into the common sense, of humanity. I’m pretty certain the Holy Spirit is handing out the common sense. Please consider praying two simple prayers, psych professions, et al. Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then please pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
Oh, I’ve been following God, and had Him with me the whole time, so I’m okay. Thank you for your concern, BANANAS. But I do definitely understand the concept of, “to whom much is given, much will be required.” And know all doctors need to wake up to this reality, too.
As an ethical American banker’s daughter, who innately knows God has been keeping track of the money, since He couldn’t do a fair judgement, without doing so …. I do hope all doctors wake up.
The first medical records of mine to be handed over, were done so after the nurses and other doctors in my foreign born PCP’s practice finally figured out there were nefarious reasons why my PCP and her husband were having me neurotoxic poisoned. Thankfully, since my PCP knew she was in the wrong, she never put her crimes (my “fictional” medical records) on the internet, and the originals were handed over to me by nurses. My PCP and her husband were then kicked out of that medical practice.
But in those medical records, were my psychiatrist’s records, which were quite shocking to read, since he had literally declared my entire life to be “fictional.” Because he didn’t listen to me, didn’t believe me, and he’d gotten all of his misinformation about me from a pathological lying psychologist. Who’d gotten all her misinformation about me from a child abusing pastor, and his pedophile “soul mate’s” wife, according to my and my child’s medical records. Well, obviously that’s when I left my psychiatrist.
Then when I went to pick up my psychologist’s medical records, she tried to engage in her insane belief system, that all the worldwide distress of 9/11/2001 was caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain alone.
I told her I didn’t know what she was talking about, and didn’t care. For God’s sake, I had my young child with me at the time. What kind of a psycho tries to gaslight someone, right in front of her young child? I told her I was there to pick up my medical records, not to talk to her, so she reluctantly handed over her illegally doctored up medical records.
Then I picked up what was left of my medical records regarding the “bad fix” on my ankle, and learned my PCP’s husband was the “attending physician” at the “bad fix,” so it was all making sense to me. My PCP was dangerously paranoid of a non-existent malpractice suit.
Then I picked up medical records from when I dealt with my now FBI convicted doctor. And I literally needed to move out of state to get that FBI convicted doctor’s psychiatric “snowing” partner, to stop fraudulently claiming she was my doctor to insurance companies.
Can you say political and criminal abuse of psychiatry? I have an idea, let’s get rid of the bad systems within Western civilization, not the souls, since we’re all just imperfect humans. God’s the judge of humanity, not the psych “professionals.”
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, of Mad in Ireland. I’m 1/64th Irish … enough to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day, I always figured … but I’m basically just a non-inbred American mutt. But one who recently learned I am technically related to both America’s current VP, and the British monarchy.
What a beautiful memorial of a loved one, it brought a tear to my eye. And an explanation of why grief should not be medicalized by the “invalid” DSM bible believing community. Many thanks to the LGBQT community for speaking out against the systemic neurotoxic poisoning psych professions.
By the way, I do have lots of Jesuses in my life, including my children, and friends, as was visually documented in my artwork since about 2005.
My brother’s friends called my eventual husband the “Neil Diamond dude,” because our first date was to a Neil Diamond concert. I had forgotten about that song, thank you Mary.
My father owed the world one big party, his only daughter’s wedding, which was not what I personally would have chosen as my wedding, but was a putting on the Ritz wedding. But I remember being sad that I couldn’t even have a Neil Diamond song be the first dance song at my own wedding.
I was attacked when I was a young mom, by Holy Spirit blaspheming psych professionals, due to legitimate distress caused by 9.11.2001. I healed, and/or am still healing, Yishay, from psychiatric trauma, with largely the same human experiences as you.
I agree with you, Yishay, psych drugs don’t cure anyone from any kind of legitimate human distress. God bless.
You object to those whose too paternalistic religions, stand against the strong and intelligent woman of their religions. Is that what you mean to do?
As one who stands against the extreme greed, et al within our society … and thinks socialism would only be possible and fair … if God were in charge of a free society … not man.
For me, your talk seemed to end in the middle of an important discussion, but I am dealing with computer hacking issues. Google seems to be an overly paternalistically controlled, and a too nosey and disrespectful of women corporation, just like my ex-religion.
I appreciate that the “Biocultural anthropology and Integrated Therapeutic Practices” educated, are speaking out against the scientific fraud and lies of the psych industries.
Honestly, I believe the medical anthropologists will be very important researchers in the future … as one who is supposed to be an “architect” or “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing.
But according to less than two hours of biased psychological “care,” plus a bunch of anticholinergic toxidrome induced psychiatric iatrogenesis, my entire life is “a credible fictional story.” How absurd, and insane, DSM deluded psych industries.
I agree, the psychological and psychiatric gaslighting and ECT needs to stop. As one who kept copious notes, when I was dealing with the systemic psychiatric neurotoxic poisoning of me and the American public.
Since as a person, who did my homework, and found the medical evidence of the iatrogenic etiology of “the sacred symbol of psychiatry,” via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced toxidrome.
I now seemingly have google hacking into my computer, and censoring me. If that’s not true, can anyone explain to me why I supposedly have 257 subscribers, none of whom are public?
And as one who agrees with the censored truth tellers, who seemingly have just been welcomed back on the internet, I do hope America can save itself with the truth, and help to save the world.
In as much as I dealt with criminal forced treatment, by a now FBI convicted doctor. So I do stand against forced treatment.
I did also help a loved one avoid getting unnecessarily overly involved in “the system,” who was more psychotic, unintentionally destructive, albeit not violent, than anyone I’d ever seen (due to a medical oversight, sleep deprivation, and alcohol encephalitis – not due to some unproven genetic issue). But, a respectful, albeit likely embarrassed, psychiatrist did help stabilize him in a manner I requested (no anticholinergic drugs).
I think the problem is that psychiatry doesn’t look for the root cause of a problem, and wants to railroad too many they deal with into their “invalid” system for profit. But, when dealing with a person who understands the root causes of their loved one’s issues, and the criminal nature of “the system,” they become a bit embarrassed, and are respectful.
So it’s likely a problem with the current psychiatric protocols, avarice, et al … but sometimes a person does need to be stabilized. So as to forced hospitalization (but I’m not advocating for the current “forced treatment” protocols), I’m a bit torn.
My loved one is doing well now – he was stabilized with a low dose of lithium within a little more than a week in a hospital, and was off it not long after. So maybe we should be talking about the difference between forced hospitalization, and today’s bad “gold standard” psychiatric protocols of forced anticholinergic toxidrome “treatment?”
Thanks for all your truth telling and advocacy, Will.
As one who largely turned off my TV shortly after 9.11.2001, but who was a marketing major. I will say, I am disgusted by all the false – which means it’s technically illegal – pharmaceutical advertising.
it’s so bad, honestly, I believe all DTC pharmaceutical advertising should be made illegal again. And I’m pretty certain the medical evidence supports my concerns, and most doctors agree.
As one with both a trans and gay child, whom I love, I disagree. But I am also a Christian, who had to leave my too paternalist ex-religion … and other churches that disparaged the LGBQT community. However, I never did stop believing in God. And I do believe the Triune God loves all the souls on this planet today.
Will you please do me a small couple of favors, “Dead soul”? Who I hope and pray is not a dead soul. Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit one night. Then when ready, please pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
I do believe if you do, you wlll know God and the Holy Spirit love all the souls on this planet, including you. And, hopefully, we are in the healing phase from living in a Satanic controlled period on earth … or at least we’ll get there soon.
Oh, but I will add, please don’t neurotoxic poison the LGBQT community, psych professionals, who collectively used to claim being gay was a “mental illness.” I’ve warned my own children to stay away from the anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and antipsychotics), and I do freely pass that recommendation on to the entirety of the LGBQT community.
So many of us have a similar story – marriage destroyed, families ripped to shreds, lots of anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, drug withdrawal induced super sensitivity manias, money stolen, etc.
It’s truly disgusting what the psych professionals are doing to their clients … and even those of us who refuse to hire a second life destroying psychologist (I’m still dealing with a very persistent psychological phone / computer hacker problem). Thank you for sharing your story, Nancy. And I did say a prayer you find a publisher. God bless.
I agree, it was my friends who saved me from my malpractice committing doctors, child abuse covering up pastor(s), and their force neurotoxic poisoning “therapists.” The so called “therapists” / psychologists entered into a faustian deal / “partnership”, with both the medical and religious industries … due to their greed.
Beautifully stated, and whatever you do, South Asia, don’t adopt the insane Western DSM iatrogenic illness creation system, nor our Ponzi scheme of a banking system, nor our maritime legal system, et al. “For the love of money is the root of all evil ….”
I agree, thank you, Will, for your truthful reporting. Did this article make anyone else just throughly disgusted with the psych industries’ abuses of power … and their clients?
“A new essay published by the Journal of Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing argues that the criteria used to justify forced psychiatric treatment are outdated and unreliable, leaving coercion without a sound ethical or scientific basis.”
I agree.
“The essay, by Dirk Richter of Bern University of Applied Sciences, argues that psychiatry does not have a reliable disease model for determining who is “mentally ill.”
And he is right, the DSM was confessed to be, by the head of NIMH in 2013, as “invalid” : 12 years ago.
“On that basis, he writes, forced treatment cannot be justified. Richter warns that coercive measures are ethically indefensible and often harmful,”
I agree, but sometimes, families do need help with someone who becomes “psychotic,” due to alcohol encephalitis. Is that diagnosis even in the DSM?
“a concern made more urgent by new U.S. proposals to expand involuntary treatment of unhoused people.”
Wrong move, especially given the fact banks “stole millions of houses,” and their home equity, from the American people not long ago.
“’Instead of the positive effect, the people affected tend to experience punishment, powerlessness, and humiliation,’ Richter writes. ‘This means that psychiatric coercion is at best experienced by a minority as a measure to promote mental health, but for the most part does not lead to the well-being of the people affected.’”
True.
As to your 5 points …
1. “Does psychiatry have a valid disease model?”
Obviously, no, since the “invalidity” of it was confessed to 12 years ago.
2. “Are psychiatric therapies effective?”
Well, since the ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” symptoms. And the “bipolar” drugs, which are the same as the “schizophrenia” drugs, can create both the positive and negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Obviously, that would be untrue also.
3. “Are measures used as a last resort and in the least restrictive way?”
No, I will say, as one who dealt with a now FBI convicted doctor, who had lots of people medically unnecessarily sent to himself, had them psychiatrically “snowed,” so he could do unneeded tracheotomies on them for profit.
4. “Are coercive measures taken for the person’s benefit?”
Absolutely not.
5. “Can autonomy be restored through coercion?”
Again absolutely not. A lot of healing has to take place, after such medical, religious, and even governmental betrayal.
Psychiatry needs to clean up the deplorable mess they’ve created, try to safely wean people off their neurotoxins. And that bad system needs to be weaned out of existence.
I do think this is the root of the problem in the US:
As a small American banker’s daughter, whose family did supposedly keep track of the money, within our dreams, when the big globalist banks obviously did not. I’m pretty certain we need to get rid of Western civilization’s bad systems, which most definitely includes psychiatry … but also includes the globalist usury based banking system.
But in the meantime, I do agree, “Housing First,” without psychiatric or psychological intervention, is the best path forward.
I will admit, since it’s the anniversary of 9.11.2001, my Holy Spirit blaspheming, child abuse covering up, psychologist blamed all the distress of 9.11.2001 on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is/was an insane and “invalid” belief system.
Again, I’m not allowed to see the entirety of this article, and told, “This content is restricted to buyers of .” And again I ask, “buyers of” what?
Hopefully later, as a MiA subscriber and regular donor, I will be able to see the rest of this article soon.
But as one who had a dream query claimed to be “psychosis,” I will point out the reality that when the “mental health professionals” claim all dreams are “psychosis,” since we all dream, they have rendered the term “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality.”
And, since my dream was of a Spiritual nature, I do agree, dismissing Spiritual dreams by the Holy Spirit blaspheming, scientifically “invalid” “mental health professionals,” may have been a mistake on their part.
Just an FYI, Patricia, my child was abused by a board member of his preschool, not by either my husband nor I. Albeit I will admit my husband did come from a highly dysfunctional family, but my husband wasn’t a child abuser, he was a wife abuser, just like his weak father.
And once my family’s medical records were handed over, I did scare that private “school for gifted children” into closing it’s doors forever, on of all days, 6-6-06.
I just wanted to point out the abuse did not come from within my family, given your and Steve’s correspondence. So not all child abuse is blamed on families.
And since I did get my child away from the abuser quite quickly, by the time he was 10 or so he was doing much better. He got in the 100th% on his state standardized tests by 8th grade, graduated from high school as the valedictorian, from university Phi Beta Kappa, including winning a psychology award as well, with staggeringly glowing compliments to me, by his psychology professors.
I don’t want all abuse of innocent children blamed on family members, by the systemic child abuse covering up “mental health professionals.”
Thank you for this interview, I’m a fan of your work, Dr. Ioannidis. I’d be grateful if you would consider pointing out that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Thank you for your consideration of my request.
As one who has dealt with child abuse covering up psych “professionals,” and has done my own psychopharmacology research. Thus as one who knows covering up child abuse is the number one actual function of the psych industries.
I will say, as one who was eventually handed over medical evidence of the abuse of my very young child … being handed over the medical evidence of the truth will set you free. Society really should not have a bunch of scientifically “invalid,” systemic child abuse covering up, “mental health industries.”
Perhaps it’d be a good idea to start arresting the child abusers, instead of having the “mental health professionals” neurotoxic poisoning the child abuse survivors, and their legitimately concerned mothers?
Well, for anyone reading this, I will say when you start talking about the anticholinergic drugs (instead of the “antidepressants” and/or “antipsychotics,” both of which are anticholinergic drugs).
The mainstream doctors and psychiatrists do tend to take notice … probably because they were all taught about anticholinergic toxidrome in med school. And I didn’t even have to be all that assertive when helping my loved one – I just spoke the truth in a language doctors understand. Albeit, I am confident in my medical research findings / knowledge.
“Doctors are trained to respond to data. If you want to get your points across, do your homework. Be confident, ask questions, and stand up for yourself or your family members.”
I agree, and this is how I helped a loved one avoid getting entangled in “the system,” in part due to a medication error issue. But the psychiatrists do get a bit embarrassed when you tell them your knowledge of the anticholinergic drugs is due to having a “bad fix” on a broken bone covered up with complex iatrogenesis.
“Trust your instincts and what you observe—the doctor isn’t there day to day, you are.”
Indeed, doctors who only meet people in 15 minute increments, and don’t listen to people, really know nothing at all about a person. That’s why my former psychiatrist literally declared my entire life to be “a credible fictional story” in his medical records.
Which is why the psych industries need to be weaned out of existence, Rosalee.
Thankfully for me, I did find the head of family medicine at the reputable Cleveland Clinic hospital, did have a brain in his head … not to mention doctors at other local hospitals, when I helped a loved one.
Speaking the truth of the fraud of the psych industries is understandable to the decent mainstream doctors.
The “Russian roulette is not the same without a gun” song came out, just after I escaped psychiatry in 2009. I tell you, He’s “killing me softly with His song, singing my life with His words.” And no, “video didn’t kill the radio star,” I just went off to college when that song came out, so I couldn’t sleep with the radio on. But I did grow up in “the city that never sleeps,” and the NY Jews supposedly chose me, when I was only in 5th grade.
It was also in 2009, when I had my Chicago awakening, during which the kind souls of Chicago supposedly called me, “the tailor who sings with the Lord,” since I did work retail next to a Lord and Tailor store, when I lived in Chi-town. It’s bizarre, but kind of cool actually. My life’s story should be a musical some day.
But, yes, Yishay, there were numerous costs. For example, my marriage was destroyed and I lost my childhood religion, due to their “faustian partnership” with the psych industries. “That’s me in the spotlight losing my religion.” But I do still have hope that it is us truth tellers, who will be the ones singing, “We are the champions my friends, and we’ll keep on fighting till the end …” in the end.
And you’re right, Steve, there are “not many ‘winners’,” when it comes to those who have had the misfortune of dealing with the scientifically “invalid” psych industries. I’m personally still rather shocked they didn’t kill me. Thank you, Jesus, for dying for my sins.
And defaming and drugging people up for dreaming, since we all dream, renders the meaning of the concept of “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality,” psych professionals. Since most people don’t have awareness of, nor awakenings to, their dreams. Thank you, God, for your awakenings of me to my dreams.
I disagree, if you’re put on multiple anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and/or antipsychotics) and become “psychotic,” then you can point out you’ve dealt with anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Not that our legal system, medical system, et al, is/are wise, or ethical enough, to understand/confess to this yet.
I’d say dealing with psychiatry is more like Russian roulette, but I was pretty much always coerced or forced to take six to nine drugs simultaneously, not just one, and that causes anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Anything to silence a non-violent, legitimately concerned mother of a child abuse survivor.
But when my family’s medical records were finally handed over, at least I was able to scare a private school, that had a pedo on their school board, into closing its doors forever … which is a good thing.
Abuse of children is a big problem in this country, many thanks to the systemic child abuse covering up, scientifically “invalid,” “mental health professionals.”
How embarrassing, us independent psychopharmacology researchers, who stand against child abuse, seem to have malice intending followers from many industries.
“By demonstrating that trauma and maltreatment predict more severe psychotic symptoms independent of parental psychiatric history, the findings shift attention to social and relational conditions rather than inherited vulnerability.”
And never forget, the antidepressants / “antipsychotics,” aka neuroleptics, can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. And the “schizophrenia” treatments can also create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.”
Oh, now I have the full article, glad I’m a MiA subscriber. (And I am dealing with computer hacking problems … still. But it may be some Google affiliated entity now, since Apple tells me they have prevented Google from profiling me many times every week, despite the fact I’ve already told Google/YouTube who I am.)
“This content is restricted to buyers of .” Buyers of what?
“Psychosis Severity Tied to Childhood Trauma, Not Inherited Mental Illness” … the saddest part of this is that the number one cause of so called “mental illness” today is cover ups of child abuse, since none of the “mental health professionals” may bill to help child abuse survivors, according to their “invalid” DSM “bible.”
I’m so sorry, Sera, the attacks on us kind souls who actually want to help others, the truth tellers, are appalling. Trust me, I know. I’m still dealing with computer hacking crimes.
I recently saw a youtube post about “AI being man’s attempt at creating god,” I didn’t watch it, but largely agree, that’s what AI seems to be.
The desire to utilize LLMs to dictate one reality at a particular point in time, based upon whatever the beliefs of the particular programer believes, or is paid to program – with an understanding of the fact that, of course, that programer would want to “maintain the status quo.”
That theology neglects to acknowledge the true reality that life is a journey, and humanity should always have freedom of speech, especially on the internet, so we may collectively always work our way towards wisdom … such that we may hopefully collectively bring about a better world.
The entire idea of creating one AI, from LLMs, instead of maintaining freedom of speech and continued growth of all of humanity – which I have no doubt is God’s goal – is a really unwise idea, IMHO.
Well, we know that “psychosis” and “hallucinations” can be created with the “antidepressants” and “antipsychotics” / neuroleptics (both anticholinergic drug classes), via anticholinergic toxidrome.
We also know the amphetamines (like the ADHD drugs) can also cause “psychosis.”
But other environmental causes of “psychosis” can be the street drugs, Wernicke-Korsakoff (WK) syndrome, sleep deprivation, and other medical drugs – if I recall correctly, like the steroids, but no doubt likely others as well. Please add to this list if you know of other environmental etiologies of “psychosis,” please.
For example, when I was five, my family moved from Chicago to New York … and I developed an “imaginary friend” … which I’m sure the psych “professionals” of today would call “psychosis.” But that would imply something as simple as merely changing environments, and not for the worse, could cause “psychosis.”
Jay, your title made me laugh, since I’ve got a train wreck painting I need to get going on. I knew I had to paint it because during my initial anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning, I had a rather terrifying struggle with God, resulting in me not leaving my bedroom for three days. And the song, “… Runaway train never going back Wrong way on a one-way track …” kept playing on the radio.
It strikes me as comedically ironic (or even eye for an eye justice), that the industries that railroaded me, are now looking at their own train wreck. Especially as one whose doctors become frustrated, when I tell them that the most common cause of death on both sides of my family, are train wrecks.
Thank you, Jay, for your very well documented years of truthful research. God bless.
As one who dealt with 14 different unjust and even illegal (by a now FBI convicted doctor) anticholinergic toxidrome psychiatric attempted murders, thus also dealt with a NDE. I too am at least trying to get over my anger, and trying to help protect others, which is a good goal in life.
I think that is largely the goal of MiA. And I, too, daily think “of how lucky I am, and have always been.” Again, thank you for all you do, Kermit. You are a very important person. God bless.
You brought a tear to my eye, Kermit. Thank you for all you’ve done. I’m glad you survived a near death experience (NDE), and my prayers for your continued healing. Any interesting NDE story?
“This, I believe, is the measure of Mad in America’s success; can we find our way past fear and anger to loving each other.” I love MiA, since it gives the patients who were harmed by psychiatry a voice, and a place to get the anger out, via writing. And it’s also a good place to share our psychopharmacology research findings.
Can you allow us to assess it, without requiring a login to WordPress? I’d be interested in reading it, Dr. Scott. Or maybe just post it here, as well?
Ralph Nader has been somewhat of a hero of mine, since I learned about “Unsafe at Any Speed,” and read “On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors” in the early 1980s. Thanks for pointing out this website.
I have not subscribed to the website yet, but did notice the list referencing the anticholinergic drugs is missing the fact they can cause psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome, which I believe is highly relevant information. But I’m not that surprised that Nadar is also pointing out the fraud of big Pharma.
Thank you, Allen, and I’m glad some psychologists are speaking the truth … maybe I’ll look for your book next time I’m in a book store.
As a doctor, I would imagine you understand why the psychologists want to bill, via the fraudulent manner all MDs do. But as an ethical banker’s daughter, I also do see the systemic fraud (not only of the MDs, but also of my father’s industry) ….
I understand why you say the “DSM is intractable,” but I disagree. I do believe the introduction of the internet, will eventually take down the scientific fraud based, scientifically “invalid,” greed only inspired DSM “bible” billers.
But, only time will tell, and it’s good for intelligent people to discuss these important issues, so thank you for your comment.
“In the 1900s, when psychiatry divorced from psychology and psychoanalysis, it became the turf keeper of biology and chemistry.”
I disagree that psychology and psychiatry are “divorced” now, especially the DSM “bible” billing psychologists, which I think is most of them.
Since my experience with psychologists is they are “partnered” with the religions, but also function as funnels to the psychiatrists … to cover up egregious crimes for the mainstream paternalistic religions.
Instead I must admit to being one of the “anti-psychiatrists,” who realize “that you cannot modify psychiatry; you must revolutionize it, you have to abolish it.” As any DSM “bible” billing, ethical psychologist should admit.
Since you can’t bill with an “invalid” psychiatric DSM “bible,” and be “divorced” from the “BS” of the DSM deluded psychiatric industry, psychologists.
We really do need to end the psychiatric / psychologic DSM defamation and neurotoxic poisoning of all people … but especially of those still of childbearing age, and younger.
“‘Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep in SSRI-exposed fetuses is an abnormal phenomenon, but its significance for postnatal development is unclear,’ the researchers concluded” … based upon what research?
Since from what I’ve read, I’m pretty certain REM sleep is very important. And you may be right about akathisia being the cause of “Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep,” which is not good either.
Thank you for sharing your story. As I was reading it, it reminded me of what the “medical model” has as a deplorable goal, IMHO. The “medical model” is all about labeling people with their “life long incurable,” but “invalid,” DSM disorders, then neurotoxic poisoning their clients. And that satanic “medical model” is all about stealing hope from people, which I think is a deplorable goal.
Thanks again for sharing your inspiring story about how a non-money based model, that’s not about stealing hope, works so much better … albeit it’s not profitable. But shouldn’t we human beings be trying to help and care for one another anyway, not only for profit?
For goodness sakes, have you ever thought about the totally fraudulent aspect of the medical/pharmaceutical/insurance industrial complex’s payment system? A quick example, that hopefully will point out the fraud of it all.
I was handed an “art manager” contract by a psychologist who wanted me to pay him, to paint for him, while he “managed” me (via a ‘take a % of gross’ aspect of the contract), after I gave him total control of all my money (via the ‘conservatorship contract’ aspect of that thievery contract).
That’s actually the absurdity of how today’s US medical community charges the rest of us for their supposed “help.” In all honesty, it’s fraud.
Are you Al, or AI? Perhaps my comment was not clear enough, regarding my lack of respect towards the entirety of the scientifically “invalid” “mental health” industries?
Thank you, Rob, for pointing out that the psych industries are NOT the solution, and actually are a part of the problem. I agree housing first, would be a part of the solution.
I agree, psychological reductionism is staggeringly stupid, to the point it’s downright insane; and it is based upon the “chemical imbalance” lie. Honestly, the older psych “professionals” should be downright ashamed of themselves.
I mean, what is “professional” about now claiming to know nothing about the common adverse and withdrawal effects of the products one is selling / forcing others to purchase? There is nothing “professional” about that at all … and that comes from an honest sales professional, whose clients loved what I designed for them. Not that I didn’t turn a requested $2000 backsplash potential sale, into a $70,000 wainscoted laundry room sale, when I knew I was dealing with an extremely wealthy client.
It’s very important to know and respectfully understand one’s clients. I also had a not-too-wealthy client, who kept coming back to me, because I could design a backsplash and foyer floor, that combined the diamonds with the blue jeans (analogy), in a unique and beautiful manner.
I had to leave my psychiatrist, once I’d read all the misinformation he’d gotten from people who didn’t know me, instead of actually listening to me, written right in his medical records. And he did, very literally, declare the entirety of my life to be, “a credible fictional story” in his medical records … too insane for me, unprofessional “psych professionals.”
I agree, denial of trauma by the so called “mental health professionals” is the problem, and I agree to some extent with No-one, too. Since I had to walk away from my husband’s highly dysfunctional family. And I won’t let any dysfunctional family, including a highly dysfunctional religious “family,” divide me from my real family, which is why I had to leave my childhood religion forever.
My mom was recently “hospitalized” for over two months, and her “religious family” never even came to visit her once. I think she got one card, from a friend of ours, within that highly dysfunctional “religious family.”
I agree with Steve’s comment below, “How anyone imagines that inducing a seizure through electrocution can be anything but harmful to the brain is truly beyond comprehension!”
So does that mean we “need more research funding” for ECT research? Or should we just – utilizing common sense – end ECT? I personally think the latter is the wiser approach. Especially given the intentional lack of research into ECT, by the well funded, but scientifically “invalid” psych industries, at this point.
I don’t understand why, “According to the researchers here (and the researchers in other studies that similarly find patients don’t want their doctors to use AI), it’s the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI and ’emphasize its potential benefits’ to convince them to accept AI use:”
Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” Are the doctors now, not just the whores of big Pharma, but also whores of big Tech/AI, too?
“’From the physician’s perspective it thus may be important to transparently communicate the rationale for using AI and to emphasize its potential benefits for the patient,’ they write.”
“(Note: The researchers do not list any benefits in their article.)”
As one who knows AI is often wrong, I’ll ask again, Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” And what are the actual benefits of AI to the majority (your clients), doctors?
Thank you for sharing your story/perspective, Jasmine. I agree, this is an important topic to discuss. As a fellow psych survivor, I can write my story as a hero’s journey story, that does not match any of the narratives you point out as the psych industries’ “narrative.”
“Exposition: Establish protagonist (main character), the afflicted,” would be me. A women who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, an ethical banker’s daughter, a “tailor who sings with the Lord,” singing “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion,” who hopes and prays we can all work our way towards healing … and eventually wisdom.
“Rising Action: Establish conflict: Symptom onset. Illness develops.” I will say distress, not “illness” developed, in my personal case … due to the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 … which was my personal “Rising Action.”
“Climax: Protagonist confronts their obstacle, seeking professional help and receiving a clinical diagnosis.”
I did this, was a compliant patient, and was slowly weaned off of the majority of the psych drugs by my psychiatrist by 2005. Because once I’d stop seeing a pathological lying psychologist, my psychiatrist concluded I’d been misdiagnosed by that non-medically trained psychologist, which, of course, was true (a misdiagnosis of brain zaps, which weren’t known to the psych industries as a common withdrawal symptom of antidepressant discontinuation syndrome until 2005, but which was blatant malpractice according to the DSM-IV-TR at the time, and still should be).
“Falling Action: Protagonist diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication, and starts to get better.”
Well, I did “diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication.” But no, repeated anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, made me much worse. However, I did start to get much better, as I was weaned off the anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings.
“Resolution: Full recovery! Victory!”
Well, not quite so simplistic … my “resolution”/”elixir” was getting off the psych drugs … but the withdrawal wasn’t at all easy, initially. And I did have to do a whole lot of research, and personal self healing. So I would say, I’m still on my healing journey, and will likely be my entire life, and I think I will spend my entire life working my way towards wisdom.
That’s not a bad thing, however I’m not certain it could be claimed to be “Full recovery! Victory!” either. But the Jungian psychologists do seem to see the wisdom of spending one’s life working their way towards wisdom. And hopefully, if we all collectively work our way towards wisdom, we can help heal humanity together. And that would be a true “Victory!”
Life’s a journey, a search for wisdom, for all of us.
“Audre Lorde’s famous quote, ‘the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house,'” is a good quote. I’m glad the younger psychologists/couselors are garnering insight into the fact that the “master” is not the psychiatrists, and their “BS” DSM, nor yourselves. God save us all.
Yeah, hopefully, I got my psychological computer and phone hacker out of my computer and phone.
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“The actuality of being tied down and shot up with a mind-altering substance, perhaps transported while blacked out to another facility and threatened with the same if exercising any level of free speech — is not yet captured here.”
Well, that’s exactly what happened to me, prior to dealing with the now FBI convicted V. R. Kuchipudi … so it has been mentioned on this website.
But I absolutely agree, “Force is used to subdue the person who objects to objectionable [mal]treatment.”
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I’m glad to hear some are getting their antidepressant induced lack of sexuality back. But as one who was given Wellbutrin for smoking cessation, which did not work. But who did want some afternoon delight, one day ever, whose husband couldn’t handle that … but he did come from a dysfunctional family that has psych drugged up many of the women in his family.
I will point out the opposite issue with Wellbutrin … not that I’m recommending that drug. But I will say, it is quite disgusting that the psych industries are screwing with others’ sex drives and lives.
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I haven’t researched into who you are, Kevin, so forgive me for that … and please educate me about who you are. But out of curiosity, can you deny the medical evidence that the anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and antipsychotics) can create anticholinergic toxidrome? And do you have any medical proof that neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome does not exist?
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“They call for an ‘urgent movement away from coercive care practices’ and for investments that make voluntary, low-barrier, community supports a reality and accessible.”
I agree, giving any faction of society the right to play judge, jury, and executioner to others within society – which the “invalid” psych professions were unwisely given – needs to end.
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I agree, getting a psychotic loved one away from the systemic anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning “mental health industries,” and into nature, did help me help him heal.
Albeit, not without him doing his part in healing, due to a truthful understanding of the actual etiology of his psychosis.
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Mary, are you referring to the systemic problem of the “mental health professionals” regularly turning their clients into scape goats? And I know I was railroaded by pathological lying “mental health professionals,” so I do need to get that Railroaded painting I’ve been meaning to do, painted.
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As one who was made ungodly sick, by an antidepressant (incorrectly claimed to be a “safe smoking cessation med,” which it most definitely is NOT) and an opioid, which was sold to me as a “safe pain med” (again which it most definitely is NOT) … so doctors could cover up easily recognized malpractice, with complex iatrogenesis.
I agree, the psych industries and mainstream medical doctors, lying to their patients that their neurotoxins are “safe,” to “treat” legal vices, is extremely unethical and staggeringly harmful.
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Yes, and sadly the Western world, believes in the “bullshit models.”
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“As a communications director at a large ad agency, I faced sexism and a 24/7 work schedule that left me with no room to breathe.”
I dealt with a similar, but not identical situation.
“Therapy was just what I needed. How nice to sit with someone who listens to you without distraction and helps you navigate the pain.”
Sadly, that was 100% the opposite of what I found “therapy” to be.
“My so-called ‘detox’ aka weaning was not simple. It was horrible—nausea, headaches, dizziness, horrible dreams, brain zaps, and this feeling of intense dread and uncomfortableness. Every day was a fight to stay focused and productive.”
My misdiagnosis of similar symptoms of antidepressant withdrawal was what my experience of “therapy” was all about.
“My generation never needed to slap ‘Be Kind’ on mugs and bumper stickers. We were taught to be kind. We were expected to respect our elders, our neighbors, and even strangers on the street. We also learned how to get along with people who weren’t our cup of tea, because everyone deserves a seat at the table. It was not all about us. You didn’t have to like everyone, but you had to respect them, listen to them, and coexist.”
As a 1964 born baby boomer, I will say, except the baby boomers were never taught to respect the younger people in our society.
“In America, antidepressants are often prescribed as the first line of defense to stress, sadness, or difficulty, leaving people less equipped to build resilience and cope with life’s challenges on their own.”
I agree.
“But for far too many, drugs have become the casual default answer rather than the last resort.”
Yes, especially for those within the younger generations.
“I was working for a company I loved, with a boss I respected, at a job that felt purposeful again. So why was I taking pills meant to ‘cure’ something that was never broken?”
Basically, greed is the answer.
“I am an empath. I feel things deeply. I lose my temper. I fight for justice, I get cranky, and I lash out at times. All of these traits were stymied while I was on Lexapro. Now, I welcome back the true Diane—with all her flaws.”
I had an aunt Diana, who fought for decades against cancer, who I do believe may have given up her life for my youngest child, since she died the same day my youngest was born – but who knows? Only God likely knows, but I do believe God loves the Dianes and Dianas. God bless, Diane.
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Turn off your TVs, ladies and gentlemen. Stop listening to big pharma DTC advertising, which should be made illegal in the US again.
Thank you for the insightful podcast, ladies.
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I agree, there is a lot of wisdom to be found within Buddhist teachings … many thanks to the Buddhists.
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Thank you for saying that, since I’ve had several awakenings to my dreams, which are organized like the internet, with lots of websites – one for each human soul, and more. And, according to my dreams, I am a big sis and/or mother to the younger generations. I do have a mother Marion, so she, too, hangs out in the mother Marion website of our dreams.
According to my dreams, the goal of the Holy Spirit is to get everyone and everyone else to agree to be one in the Spirit, one in the Lord. I do also believe the Holy Spirit functions as a muse to humanity, and comes bearing gifts, in the hopes humanity will not kill the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Please say two short prayers, if you haven’t already. Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit. According to the awakening of my dreams, that is when you will be given “the greatest gift of all.”
Gotta love the Bobs. And my current ethical and intelligent doctor, is a Richard, so many of the Riches are good guys too. Thank God for the good guys.
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Given the fact that the psych survivors and independent psych researchers, have found the iatrogenic etiologies of all the “invalid” DSM psych “disorders.”
I definitely agree, “psychiatric-survivor knowledge” and independent psych researchers, “as a form of scholarship in its own right,” is invaluable.
Many thanks, Robert Whitaker … but as a psych survivor researcher, I would like to be given respect for finding the medical evidence of the iatrogenic etiology of the “sacred symbol of psychiatry.”
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“I am Jewish—my mother was Jewish, and I had a Bar Mitzvah at 13—but I have always found the rest of Leviticus barbaric and repulsive, to the point that I wonder if the Book has been deliberately falsified by an evil scribe. No way would God have told Moses to stone anyone to death, for any reason.”
I agree, God is innately good. Yet, the men of our society regularly neurotoxic poison the women and children of our society, in the hopes of maintaining their paternalistic control over our society … irregardless of which Abrahamic religion they come from.
Who wrote the Bible? … men. So, as a woman, I think systemically neurotoxic poisoning anyone … thus torturing them … is probably worse than stoning anyone. But I agree, this is a paternalistic human problem, more so than a Triune God problem. Since I do believe the Triune God will come with a female aspect, who will help clean up the mess that has been created by a too paternalistic society.
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Marc, given the reality that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create both the positive symptoms of schizophrenia, via anticholinergic toxidrome; and can cause the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Albeit, I do understand things like sleep deprivation, street drugs, alcohol encephalitis, and other legal pharmaceuticals can also be the etiology of psychosis – none of which causes is a “genetic” illness, however.
Please do give me some scientific proof that Szasz “was wrong,” Marc Cheminas.
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“Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me ….”
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I would imagine your brother is talking about horses, given my Spiritual journey, and Biblical prophesy. And I agree with you, given my medical research findings regarding the iatrogenic effects of the antipsychotics / neuroleptics (see my prior comments on this website).
I, too, had to help keep a brother off these neurotoxins. I was successful, thankfully, and he’s doing well now.
Thank you for sharing your story, Hope. Please know in your heart that you’re doing the right thing … and we do all need hope and love.
By the way, even a small donation to MiA, will give you access to all MiA’s research and reporting … which most definitely tries to be truthful, thus is very important.
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“Maya healers are questioning the effects of psychotropic drugs and mistrusting biomedical providers.”
Wisely, I will say, Maya healers. Especially given Robert Whitaker’s research findings, and since I found medical evidence that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome; as well as the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
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Pray to God we’re bringing the dark to light, Carol. Since the truth will set us free.
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Oh, Richard, Richard, please respond. I have a good doctor, by the name of Richard, who not only took my DSM misdiagnosis, off my medical records. But he also had me teach his Cleveland Clinic students about the truth of psychiatry’s systemic iatrogenic fraud.
So I know there are both good and bad Richards … please choose to be on the side of the good Richards, Richard. And I’ve told you above how to have a “quickening” of your awakening, to do that … two simple prayers.
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Sadly, I’m pretty certain you are right.
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Not to mention, what I feel like I’ve already pointed out way too often, as the complex iatrogenic symptoms of “schizophrenia,” created with the psychiatric drugs … via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
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The reason people seek ‘help’ is because the mainstream doctors, who are dangerously paranoid of a non-existent legitimate malpractice lawsuit, proactively prevent such, with the use of complex psychiatric iatrogenesis. .
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I agree. And, as one who had all the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 blamed on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … as I was picking up my medical records from an insane, child abuse covering up, psychologist.
I do agree, psychologists are sometimes insane people, who blame legitimate societal distress, on an individual … which is crazy. We have real societal problems, that should be properly addressed.
Sorry for all you experienced, Cleveland, I agree the medical community, the religions, and our societal systems, are too paternalistic. But as a female “tailor who sings with the Lord,” I do believe Cleveland is a blessed city, that houses the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for a reason.
So I do hope and pray you search for Him, since I believe He is our healer, thus savior. I do have medical evidence Jesus died for my sins, thus prevented me from dying from 14 different egregious anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings. And I believe He’s here to save us all. God bless.
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“do SOME people get labeled with ‘bipolar disorder’ or act in the ways described due to inflammation?” Or, as in my case, do some people get the adverse effects of a NSAID, misdiagnosed as “bipolar?”
Not to mention, as documented by Robert Whitaker, the adverse and withdrawal symptoms of the antidepressants and ADHD drugs can also cause what looks like the “bipolar” symptoms.
But both those misdiagnosis issues, which I personally dealt with, are why the scientifically “invalid” DSM “bipolar diagnosis” is unacceptable. Since that diagnosis is really functioning as nothing more than an iatrogenic illness covering up diagnosis … which is, i believe, illegal … not that the lawyers are taking obvious cases of such complex iatrogenesis.
But I will admit, pretty much every doctor I’ve had to deal with subsequently, is quite embarrassed by these forms of complex iatrogenesis being calmly explained to them.
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Given the medical evidence that the antidepressants and ADHD drugs can both create the positive symptom of ‘bipolar.’ … “mania.” Which was largely proven, via Robert Whitaker’s research.
And the known medical evidence that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create both the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Which psychiatric “DSM diagnoses make sense” to you, Richard?
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Ironically, or maybe I should say hypocritically, while fraudulently claiming to be “holistic, Christian talk therapists,” and other lies.
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Gotta love you, Dr. Peter. Thank you.
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Richard quote: “It’s not a defense of DSM to point … this out, but I think we need to remind ourselves of what DSM is trying to do and how, perhaps, impossible it is to do ….” Pardon my editing, hopefully, it made your comment clearer, and my editing was true to your intended meaning.
Nonetheless, I agree what the psychiatrists are trying to do is “impossible.” Largely since distress is part of the human condition, not a “disorder,” nor disease. But wouldn’t that rather be evidence of the “delusions of grandeur” of psychiatry, Pharma, psychology, et al … as opposed to its patients?
“It’s the nature of the task, not simply the fault of the APA, Pharma, psychiatrists and other mental health professionals.” Or as I asked above, maybe it is the fault of the unrepentant “delusions of grandeur” of the – basically avarice only inspired – “mental health professionals,” Pharma, et al.
Mary quote: “Artists always get labeled bipolar but all of the artistic path is cyclical. Artist[s] create more than not from the trauma of life.”
Yes, a warning to all my fellow artists and designers … as an artist/designer who had all the legitimate worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 blamed upon a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone, by an easily recognized malpractice and child abuse covering up psychologist … when I was picking up her doctored up medical records.
Maybe Jesus was right to recommend repentance, and changing from one’s evil ways … as opposed to not quickly changing from one’s evil ways nor taking personal responsibility for one’s own “delusions of grandeur,” due to psychiatry’s attempt to do the impossible (for nefarious reasons)?
Maybe the Holy Spirit blaspheming psych industries need to garner insight into the fact that it is not your job, nor right, to be the judges of humanity? That is a “delusion of grandeur,” on your part, since that is actually the job of the Triune God, not you.
But I’m glad some US psychiatrists are finally starting to wake up. They don’t call it the “great awakening” for no reason. May I suggest a couple of simple prayers for a quickening of your awakening, US DSM deluded? Especially given the fact that Jesus is supposed to “come like a thief in the night.” Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
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Great, and very important interview, Mr. Whitaker, Johanna, and Adam. I am so grateful for those speaking truth to power to the FDA, many thanks.
And I agree with Mary OMalley, there is a staggeringly level of disrespect for women and children, in our society … but especially in regards to the too paternalistically designed “mental health professions,” and their too paternalistic mainstream religious “partners.”
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Well, since we no longer live in a society where anyone has any privacy, due to the internet, and a lot of illegal marketing practices going on there. I will say, there is such a thing as illegal “involuntary treatment.” And it’s a systemic problem.
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“Fun, freedom, and the unpredictability of life are not things therapists are certified to provide, and they are not commodities money can buy. But they may be the raw material of recovery.”
I agree, Dan.
“The only use a therapist may have is to help the client find such engagement, joy, risk, connection and challenge. There is no secret wisdom to be shared.” I agree, Steve.
But sadly, my so called “psych” industry “professionals,” and their pastoral “partners,” were elder easily recognized malpractice and systemic child abuse covering up lunatics, by DSM design. Who had delusions of grandeur they were Jesus or God, while having no clue about who I am. Not to mention who the third aspect of the Triune God is, since they were all Holy Spirit blasphemers.
“It’s about living life and doing what we need to do. Talking only helps if it gets one living again!” I agree. “And a degree hardly qualifies one to be capable of helping find that inspiration. Help is wherever we find it!” Again, I agree.
Thank God for my friends, who helped me when I had the misfortune of dealing with my Holy Spirit blaspheming, gas lighting, inappropriate coerced and forced anticholenergic toxidrome attempted murdering, “psych professionals,” … who are now trying to proclaim ignorance and innocence of their, and their industries’, sins.
I’m quite certain the Triune God is not nearly as stupid, as the mass murdering, scientifically “invalid,” Holy Spirit blaspheming, elder, DSM deluded, too paternalistic, “psych professions.”
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If I’m not incorrect, anyone can become a “subscriber” on MiA for a $20 dollar donation. But I do agree, Dead Soul, “NO ONE wants to hear from these professional evildoers going ‘wow, am I maybe actually hurting people?'” including the scientifically “invalid” psychologists.
But please give everyone a little respect, including a possibly trying to be honest American psychologist, who is married to Mr. Whitaker. Who is probably terrified by the enormous systemic fraud, deceit, and lies of her industry, which have destroyed the entirety of her industry’s credibility, not to mention our entire nation.
I know that’s why I had to leave my ex-religion – “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion” – due to their too paternalist psychological / medical / religious industries’ faustian “partnership.”
We aren’t the crazy ones, those trying to maintain Satan’s and Western civilization’s “bad systems,” that many American’s families risked life and limb to move away from, but unwisely brought with us, are the problem. But we are older and wiser now, so hopefully, we are the solution, as well.
We are the one’s who want to save American society, by ridding ourselves of the bad globalist systems … so hopefully, we are the solution, as well as the one’s who pointed out the too paternalistic bad systems. A little respect for the women is in order, boys. Pray to God.
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I remember, when dealing with my systemic child abuse covering up “mental health professionals” – since the DSM “bible” thumpers can’t even bill to help child abuse survivors, nor their legitimately concerned mothers – thinking “don’t judge a book by its cover.”
The psych industries, from my perspective, seem to be all about misjudging “a book by its cover.” Despite the reality that God is the judge of all of humanity, not the so called, “mental health professionals.”
BTW, let’s not forget that the symptoms of the “Cluster A Personality Disorders” (so called “psychotic disorders”) can be created with today’s “schizophrenia” treatments, via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
Is psychiatry now changing the name of “schizophrenia,” to “Cluster A Personality Disorders?”
Tonight, I was listening to this more truthful than most psych doc’s talks, and I must say, it must have been a few hard interviews, for him to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EB112_cC7I
I think those on MiA may be interested in watching it.
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Although I do understand the need for brief extended treatment for alcohol encephalitis, which is not even in the DSM (although I do know “Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome, [is] recognized under alcohol-related disorders.”)
But that is an example of why the medical community’s habit of renaming things only causes miscommunication issues. Thankfully my loved one’s doctor spoke the truth, in English, not psychiatric medical language.
I found the best treatment for alcohol encephalitis is with a low dose of lithium, for a short period of time … so long as your loved one agrees to stop drinking too much. And with the truth spoken in English, as opposed to the reality denying, made up psychiatric named disorders.
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if you stood, or now stand against, the forced and/or coerced drugging of the Covid debacle. You should also stand against all forced and coerced drugging of any person, by the scientifically “invalid” “mental health industries.”
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I absolutely agree, disease mongering advertising campaigns, that miseducate people about the “invalid” DSM disorders, need to be made illegal.
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As one who now has Google literally seemingly hacking into my computer, since us here on MiA are discussing important and relevant topics. I will say, it’s not likely just me dealing with computer hacking crimes, MiA may be also, so sorry to MiA and their commenters. I do think MiA is trying to ethically report on important truths, which big Pharma and the psych industries want to deny … and also seemingly the computer industries
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I remember when I learned the ADHD drugs were stimulant drugs, as a not too stupid person, who had the common sense to know the stimulants are largely illegal for good reason. I knew evil was in charge of the psych industries.
I do hope the psych industries, and the mainstream medical community, will some day garner insight into the common sense, of humanity. I’m pretty certain the Holy Spirit is handing out the common sense. Please consider praying two simple prayers, psych professions, et al. Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit. Then please pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
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Oh, I’ve been following God, and had Him with me the whole time, so I’m okay. Thank you for your concern, BANANAS. But I do definitely understand the concept of, “to whom much is given, much will be required.” And know all doctors need to wake up to this reality, too.
As an ethical American banker’s daughter, who innately knows God has been keeping track of the money, since He couldn’t do a fair judgement, without doing so …. I do hope all doctors wake up.
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The first medical records of mine to be handed over, were done so after the nurses and other doctors in my foreign born PCP’s practice finally figured out there were nefarious reasons why my PCP and her husband were having me neurotoxic poisoned. Thankfully, since my PCP knew she was in the wrong, she never put her crimes (my “fictional” medical records) on the internet, and the originals were handed over to me by nurses. My PCP and her husband were then kicked out of that medical practice.
But in those medical records, were my psychiatrist’s records, which were quite shocking to read, since he had literally declared my entire life to be “fictional.” Because he didn’t listen to me, didn’t believe me, and he’d gotten all of his misinformation about me from a pathological lying psychologist. Who’d gotten all her misinformation about me from a child abusing pastor, and his pedophile “soul mate’s” wife, according to my and my child’s medical records. Well, obviously that’s when I left my psychiatrist.
Then when I went to pick up my psychologist’s medical records, she tried to engage in her insane belief system, that all the worldwide distress of 9/11/2001 was caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain alone.
I told her I didn’t know what she was talking about, and didn’t care. For God’s sake, I had my young child with me at the time. What kind of a psycho tries to gaslight someone, right in front of her young child? I told her I was there to pick up my medical records, not to talk to her, so she reluctantly handed over her illegally doctored up medical records.
Then I picked up what was left of my medical records regarding the “bad fix” on my ankle, and learned my PCP’s husband was the “attending physician” at the “bad fix,” so it was all making sense to me. My PCP was dangerously paranoid of a non-existent malpractice suit.
Then I picked up medical records from when I dealt with my now FBI convicted doctor. And I literally needed to move out of state to get that FBI convicted doctor’s psychiatric “snowing” partner, to stop fraudulently claiming she was my doctor to insurance companies.
Can you say political and criminal abuse of psychiatry? I have an idea, let’s get rid of the bad systems within Western civilization, not the souls, since we’re all just imperfect humans. God’s the judge of humanity, not the psych “professionals.”
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, of Mad in Ireland. I’m 1/64th Irish … enough to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day, I always figured … but I’m basically just a non-inbred American mutt. But one who recently learned I am technically related to both America’s current VP, and the British monarchy.
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What a beautiful memorial of a loved one, it brought a tear to my eye. And an explanation of why grief should not be medicalized by the “invalid” DSM bible believing community. Many thanks to the LGBQT community for speaking out against the systemic neurotoxic poisoning psych professions.
By the way, I do have lots of Jesuses in my life, including my children, and friends, as was visually documented in my artwork since about 2005.
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My brother’s friends called my eventual husband the “Neil Diamond dude,” because our first date was to a Neil Diamond concert. I had forgotten about that song, thank you Mary.
My father owed the world one big party, his only daughter’s wedding, which was not what I personally would have chosen as my wedding, but was a putting on the Ritz wedding. But I remember being sad that I couldn’t even have a Neil Diamond song be the first dance song at my own wedding.
I was attacked when I was a young mom, by Holy Spirit blaspheming psych professionals, due to legitimate distress caused by 9.11.2001. I healed, and/or am still healing, Yishay, from psychiatric trauma, with largely the same human experiences as you.
I agree with you, Yishay, psych drugs don’t cure anyone from any kind of legitimate human distress. God bless.
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You object to those whose too paternalistic religions, stand against the strong and intelligent woman of their religions. Is that what you mean to do?
As one who stands against the extreme greed, et al within our society … and thinks socialism would only be possible and fair … if God were in charge of a free society … not man.
For me, your talk seemed to end in the middle of an important discussion, but I am dealing with computer hacking issues. Google seems to be an overly paternalistically controlled, and a too nosey and disrespectful of women corporation, just like my ex-religion.
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I appreciate that the “Biocultural anthropology and Integrated Therapeutic Practices” educated, are speaking out against the scientific fraud and lies of the psych industries.
Honestly, I believe the medical anthropologists will be very important researchers in the future … as one who is supposed to be an “architect” or “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing.
But according to less than two hours of biased psychological “care,” plus a bunch of anticholinergic toxidrome induced psychiatric iatrogenesis, my entire life is “a credible fictional story.” How absurd, and insane, DSM deluded psych industries.
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I agree, the psychological and psychiatric gaslighting and ECT needs to stop. As one who kept copious notes, when I was dealing with the systemic psychiatric neurotoxic poisoning of me and the American public.
Since as a person, who did my homework, and found the medical evidence of the iatrogenic etiology of “the sacred symbol of psychiatry,” via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced toxidrome.
I now seemingly have google hacking into my computer, and censoring me. If that’s not true, can anyone explain to me why I supposedly have 257 subscribers, none of whom are public?
https://myaccount.google.com/u/0/yourdata/youtube?hl=en
And as one who agrees with the censored truth tellers, who seemingly have just been welcomed back on the internet, I do hope America can save itself with the truth, and help to save the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ckeQglMnmc
The truth will set us free.
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We’re speaking to the choir here, aren’t we Richard. But that’s still important, and let’s pray to God for a larger audience.
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In as much as I dealt with criminal forced treatment, by a now FBI convicted doctor. So I do stand against forced treatment.
I did also help a loved one avoid getting unnecessarily overly involved in “the system,” who was more psychotic, unintentionally destructive, albeit not violent, than anyone I’d ever seen (due to a medical oversight, sleep deprivation, and alcohol encephalitis – not due to some unproven genetic issue). But, a respectful, albeit likely embarrassed, psychiatrist did help stabilize him in a manner I requested (no anticholinergic drugs).
I think the problem is that psychiatry doesn’t look for the root cause of a problem, and wants to railroad too many they deal with into their “invalid” system for profit. But, when dealing with a person who understands the root causes of their loved one’s issues, and the criminal nature of “the system,” they become a bit embarrassed, and are respectful.
So it’s likely a problem with the current psychiatric protocols, avarice, et al … but sometimes a person does need to be stabilized. So as to forced hospitalization (but I’m not advocating for the current “forced treatment” protocols), I’m a bit torn.
My loved one is doing well now – he was stabilized with a low dose of lithium within a little more than a week in a hospital, and was off it not long after. So maybe we should be talking about the difference between forced hospitalization, and today’s bad “gold standard” psychiatric protocols of forced anticholinergic toxidrome “treatment?”
Thanks for all your truth telling and advocacy, Will.
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As one who largely turned off my TV shortly after 9.11.2001, but who was a marketing major. I will say, I am disgusted by all the false – which means it’s technically illegal – pharmaceutical advertising.
it’s so bad, honestly, I believe all DTC pharmaceutical advertising should be made illegal again. And I’m pretty certain the medical evidence supports my concerns, and most doctors agree.
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As one with both a trans and gay child, whom I love, I disagree. But I am also a Christian, who had to leave my too paternalist ex-religion … and other churches that disparaged the LGBQT community. However, I never did stop believing in God. And I do believe the Triune God loves all the souls on this planet today.
Will you please do me a small couple of favors, “Dead soul”? Who I hope and pray is not a dead soul. Please pray to awaken with the Holy Spirit one night. Then when ready, please pray to be moved by the Holy Spirit.
I do believe if you do, you wlll know God and the Holy Spirit love all the souls on this planet, including you. And, hopefully, we are in the healing phase from living in a Satanic controlled period on earth … or at least we’ll get there soon.
Oh, but I will add, please don’t neurotoxic poison the LGBQT community, psych professionals, who collectively used to claim being gay was a “mental illness.” I’ve warned my own children to stay away from the anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and antipsychotics), and I do freely pass that recommendation on to the entirety of the LGBQT community.
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So many of us have a similar story – marriage destroyed, families ripped to shreds, lots of anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, drug withdrawal induced super sensitivity manias, money stolen, etc.
It’s truly disgusting what the psych professionals are doing to their clients … and even those of us who refuse to hire a second life destroying psychologist (I’m still dealing with a very persistent psychological phone / computer hacker problem). Thank you for sharing your story, Nancy. And I did say a prayer you find a publisher. God bless.
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I agree, it was my friends who saved me from my malpractice committing doctors, child abuse covering up pastor(s), and their force neurotoxic poisoning “therapists.” The so called “therapists” / psychologists entered into a faustian deal / “partnership”, with both the medical and religious industries … due to their greed.
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Beautifully stated, and whatever you do, South Asia, don’t adopt the insane Western DSM iatrogenic illness creation system, nor our Ponzi scheme of a banking system, nor our maritime legal system, et al. “For the love of money is the root of all evil ….”
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I agree, thank you, Will, for your truthful reporting. Did this article make anyone else just throughly disgusted with the psych industries’ abuses of power … and their clients?
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“A new essay published by the Journal of Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing argues that the criteria used to justify forced psychiatric treatment are outdated and unreliable, leaving coercion without a sound ethical or scientific basis.”
I agree.
“The essay, by Dirk Richter of Bern University of Applied Sciences, argues that psychiatry does not have a reliable disease model for determining who is “mentally ill.”
And he is right, the DSM was confessed to be, by the head of NIMH in 2013, as “invalid” : 12 years ago.
“On that basis, he writes, forced treatment cannot be justified. Richter warns that coercive measures are ethically indefensible and often harmful,”
I agree, but sometimes, families do need help with someone who becomes “psychotic,” due to alcohol encephalitis. Is that diagnosis even in the DSM?
“a concern made more urgent by new U.S. proposals to expand involuntary treatment of unhoused people.”
Wrong move, especially given the fact banks “stole millions of houses,” and their home equity, from the American people not long ago.
“’Instead of the positive effect, the people affected tend to experience punishment, powerlessness, and humiliation,’ Richter writes. ‘This means that psychiatric coercion is at best experienced by a minority as a measure to promote mental health, but for the most part does not lead to the well-being of the people affected.’”
True.
As to your 5 points …
1. “Does psychiatry have a valid disease model?”
Obviously, no, since the “invalidity” of it was confessed to 12 years ago.
2. “Are psychiatric therapies effective?”
Well, since the ADHD drugs and antidepressants can create the “bipolar” symptoms. And the “bipolar” drugs, which are the same as the “schizophrenia” drugs, can create both the positive and negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome and neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Obviously, that would be untrue also.
3. “Are measures used as a last resort and in the least restrictive way?”
No, I will say, as one who dealt with a now FBI convicted doctor, who had lots of people medically unnecessarily sent to himself, had them psychiatrically “snowed,” so he could do unneeded tracheotomies on them for profit.
4. “Are coercive measures taken for the person’s benefit?”
Absolutely not.
5. “Can autonomy be restored through coercion?”
Again absolutely not. A lot of healing has to take place, after such medical, religious, and even governmental betrayal.
Psychiatry needs to clean up the deplorable mess they’ve created, try to safely wean people off their neurotoxins. And that bad system needs to be weaned out of existence.
I do think this is the root of the problem in the US:
https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/when-the-united-states-became-a-corporation/
As a small American banker’s daughter, whose family did supposedly keep track of the money, within our dreams, when the big globalist banks obviously did not. I’m pretty certain we need to get rid of Western civilization’s bad systems, which most definitely includes psychiatry … but also includes the globalist usury based banking system.
But in the meantime, I do agree, “Housing First,” without psychiatric or psychological intervention, is the best path forward.
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I will admit, since it’s the anniversary of 9.11.2001, my Holy Spirit blaspheming, child abuse covering up, psychologist blamed all the distress of 9.11.2001 on a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone … which is/was an insane and “invalid” belief system.
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Again, I’m not allowed to see the entirety of this article, and told, “This content is restricted to buyers of .” And again I ask, “buyers of” what?
Hopefully later, as a MiA subscriber and regular donor, I will be able to see the rest of this article soon.
But as one who had a dream query claimed to be “psychosis,” I will point out the reality that when the “mental health professionals” claim all dreams are “psychosis,” since we all dream, they have rendered the term “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality.”
And, since my dream was of a Spiritual nature, I do agree, dismissing Spiritual dreams by the Holy Spirit blaspheming, scientifically “invalid” “mental health professionals,” may have been a mistake on their part.
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Just an FYI, Patricia, my child was abused by a board member of his preschool, not by either my husband nor I. Albeit I will admit my husband did come from a highly dysfunctional family, but my husband wasn’t a child abuser, he was a wife abuser, just like his weak father.
And once my family’s medical records were handed over, I did scare that private “school for gifted children” into closing it’s doors forever, on of all days, 6-6-06.
I just wanted to point out the abuse did not come from within my family, given your and Steve’s correspondence. So not all child abuse is blamed on families.
And since I did get my child away from the abuser quite quickly, by the time he was 10 or so he was doing much better. He got in the 100th% on his state standardized tests by 8th grade, graduated from high school as the valedictorian, from university Phi Beta Kappa, including winning a psychology award as well, with staggeringly glowing compliments to me, by his psychology professors.
I don’t want all abuse of innocent children blamed on family members, by the systemic child abuse covering up “mental health professionals.”
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Thank you for this interview, I’m a fan of your work, Dr. Ioannidis. I’d be grateful if you would consider pointing out that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via anticholinergic toxidrome, and the negative symptoms, via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. Thank you for your consideration of my request.
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As one who has dealt with child abuse covering up psych “professionals,” and has done my own psychopharmacology research. Thus as one who knows covering up child abuse is the number one actual function of the psych industries.
I will say, as one who was eventually handed over medical evidence of the abuse of my very young child … being handed over the medical evidence of the truth will set you free. Society really should not have a bunch of scientifically “invalid,” systemic child abuse covering up, “mental health industries.”
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Perhaps it’d be a good idea to start arresting the child abusers, instead of having the “mental health professionals” neurotoxic poisoning the child abuse survivors, and their legitimately concerned mothers?
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I posted basically the same comment on Tucker Carlson’s youtube interview of an abused physician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeFtquLWFPQ
Since the physician mentioned Marcia Angell, I recommended Marcia’s 2005 book:
https://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375760946
That book recommendation is being censured by YouTube, at least it has been for the past hour plus.
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I thought MiA readers might find this synopsized history of pharma and medicine interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3jvS4pbm4
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I largely agree with Steve, Patricia, but have also been dealing with major computer hacking / profiling issues recently, too.
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Well, for anyone reading this, I will say when you start talking about the anticholinergic drugs (instead of the “antidepressants” and/or “antipsychotics,” both of which are anticholinergic drugs).
The mainstream doctors and psychiatrists do tend to take notice … probably because they were all taught about anticholinergic toxidrome in med school. And I didn’t even have to be all that assertive when helping my loved one – I just spoke the truth in a language doctors understand. Albeit, I am confident in my medical research findings / knowledge.
Thank you, as always, Steve.
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“Doctors are trained to respond to data. If you want to get your points across, do your homework. Be confident, ask questions, and stand up for yourself or your family members.”
I agree, and this is how I helped a loved one avoid getting entangled in “the system,” in part due to a medication error issue. But the psychiatrists do get a bit embarrassed when you tell them your knowledge of the anticholinergic drugs is due to having a “bad fix” on a broken bone covered up with complex iatrogenesis.
“Trust your instincts and what you observe—the doctor isn’t there day to day, you are.”
Indeed, doctors who only meet people in 15 minute increments, and don’t listen to people, really know nothing at all about a person. That’s why my former psychiatrist literally declared my entire life to be “a credible fictional story” in his medical records.
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Which is why the psych industries need to be weaned out of existence, Rosalee.
Thankfully for me, I did find the head of family medicine at the reputable Cleveland Clinic hospital, did have a brain in his head … not to mention doctors at other local hospitals, when I helped a loved one.
Speaking the truth of the fraud of the psych industries is understandable to the decent mainstream doctors.
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Don’t forget the greed, Birdsong.
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The “Russian roulette is not the same without a gun” song came out, just after I escaped psychiatry in 2009. I tell you, He’s “killing me softly with His song, singing my life with His words.” And no, “video didn’t kill the radio star,” I just went off to college when that song came out, so I couldn’t sleep with the radio on. But I did grow up in “the city that never sleeps,” and the NY Jews supposedly chose me, when I was only in 5th grade.
It was also in 2009, when I had my Chicago awakening, during which the kind souls of Chicago supposedly called me, “the tailor who sings with the Lord,” since I did work retail next to a Lord and Tailor store, when I lived in Chi-town. It’s bizarre, but kind of cool actually. My life’s story should be a musical some day.
But, yes, Yishay, there were numerous costs. For example, my marriage was destroyed and I lost my childhood religion, due to their “faustian partnership” with the psych industries. “That’s me in the spotlight losing my religion.” But I do still have hope that it is us truth tellers, who will be the ones singing, “We are the champions my friends, and we’ll keep on fighting till the end …” in the end.
And you’re right, Steve, there are “not many ‘winners’,” when it comes to those who have had the misfortune of dealing with the scientifically “invalid” psych industries. I’m personally still rather shocked they didn’t kill me. Thank you, Jesus, for dying for my sins.
And defaming and drugging people up for dreaming, since we all dream, renders the meaning of the concept of “psychosis” to be “irrelevant to reality,” psych professionals. Since most people don’t have awareness of, nor awakenings to, their dreams. Thank you, God, for your awakenings of me to my dreams.
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I disagree, if you’re put on multiple anticholinergic drugs (including the antidepressants and/or antipsychotics) and become “psychotic,” then you can point out you’ve dealt with anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Not that our legal system, medical system, et al, is/are wise, or ethical enough, to understand/confess to this yet.
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I’d say dealing with psychiatry is more like Russian roulette, but I was pretty much always coerced or forced to take six to nine drugs simultaneously, not just one, and that causes anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. Anything to silence a non-violent, legitimately concerned mother of a child abuse survivor.
But when my family’s medical records were finally handed over, at least I was able to scare a private school, that had a pedo on their school board, into closing its doors forever … which is a good thing.
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Abuse of children is a big problem in this country, many thanks to the systemic child abuse covering up, scientifically “invalid,” “mental health professionals.”
From youtube today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WFVl1I7Z18
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How embarrassing, us independent psychopharmacology researchers, who stand against child abuse, seem to have malice intending followers from many industries.
“By demonstrating that trauma and maltreatment predict more severe psychotic symptoms independent of parental psychiatric history, the findings shift attention to social and relational conditions rather than inherited vulnerability.”
And never forget, the antidepressants / “antipsychotics,” aka neuroleptics, can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. And the “schizophrenia” treatments can also create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.”
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Oh, now I have the full article, glad I’m a MiA subscriber. (And I am dealing with computer hacking problems … still. But it may be some Google affiliated entity now, since Apple tells me they have prevented Google from profiling me many times every week, despite the fact I’ve already told Google/YouTube who I am.)
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“This content is restricted to buyers of .” Buyers of what?
“Psychosis Severity Tied to Childhood Trauma, Not Inherited Mental Illness” … the saddest part of this is that the number one cause of so called “mental illness” today is cover ups of child abuse, since none of the “mental health professionals” may bill to help child abuse survivors, according to their “invalid” DSM “bible.”
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I’m so sorry, Sera, the attacks on us kind souls who actually want to help others, the truth tellers, are appalling. Trust me, I know. I’m still dealing with computer hacking crimes.
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I recently saw a youtube post about “AI being man’s attempt at creating god,” I didn’t watch it, but largely agree, that’s what AI seems to be.
The desire to utilize LLMs to dictate one reality at a particular point in time, based upon whatever the beliefs of the particular programer believes, or is paid to program – with an understanding of the fact that, of course, that programer would want to “maintain the status quo.”
That theology neglects to acknowledge the true reality that life is a journey, and humanity should always have freedom of speech, especially on the internet, so we may collectively always work our way towards wisdom … such that we may hopefully collectively bring about a better world.
The entire idea of creating one AI, from LLMs, instead of maintaining freedom of speech and continued growth of all of humanity – which I have no doubt is God’s goal – is a really unwise idea, IMHO.
Thank you for your truthful reporting, Peter.
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Well, we know that “psychosis” and “hallucinations” can be created with the “antidepressants” and “antipsychotics” / neuroleptics (both anticholinergic drug classes), via anticholinergic toxidrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxidrome
And the neuroleptics can also create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroleptic-induced_deficit_syndrome
We also know the amphetamines (like the ADHD drugs) can also cause “psychosis.”
But other environmental causes of “psychosis” can be the street drugs, Wernicke-Korsakoff (WK) syndrome, sleep deprivation, and other medical drugs – if I recall correctly, like the steroids, but no doubt likely others as well. Please add to this list if you know of other environmental etiologies of “psychosis,” please.
For example, when I was five, my family moved from Chicago to New York … and I developed an “imaginary friend” … which I’m sure the psych “professionals” of today would call “psychosis.” But that would imply something as simple as merely changing environments, and not for the worse, could cause “psychosis.”
Jay, your title made me laugh, since I’ve got a train wreck painting I need to get going on. I knew I had to paint it because during my initial anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning, I had a rather terrifying struggle with God, resulting in me not leaving my bedroom for three days. And the song, “… Runaway train never going back Wrong way on a one-way track …” kept playing on the radio.
It strikes me as comedically ironic (or even eye for an eye justice), that the industries that railroaded me, are now looking at their own train wreck. Especially as one whose doctors become frustrated, when I tell them that the most common cause of death on both sides of my family, are train wrecks.
Thank you, Jay, for your very well documented years of truthful research. God bless.
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My condolences, Steve. And I do have a few “love is the answer” pieces of artwork, within my art portfolio.
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As one who dealt with 14 different unjust and even illegal (by a now FBI convicted doctor) anticholinergic toxidrome psychiatric attempted murders, thus also dealt with a NDE. I too am at least trying to get over my anger, and trying to help protect others, which is a good goal in life.
I think that is largely the goal of MiA. And I, too, daily think “of how lucky I am, and have always been.” Again, thank you for all you do, Kermit. You are a very important person. God bless.
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Did you see Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring’s interview with Tucker Carlson today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhT77W9mtQ
Shame on Illinois for wanting to neurotoxic poison children, but thanks for the truth telling, Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring.
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You brought a tear to my eye, Kermit. Thank you for all you’ve done. I’m glad you survived a near death experience (NDE), and my prayers for your continued healing. Any interesting NDE story?
“This, I believe, is the measure of Mad in America’s success; can we find our way past fear and anger to loving each other.” I love MiA, since it gives the patients who were harmed by psychiatry a voice, and a place to get the anger out, via writing. And it’s also a good place to share our psychopharmacology research findings.
Thank you, MiA and Kermit, sending my love.
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“This content is restricted to buyers of .” … what?
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Can you allow us to assess it, without requiring a login to WordPress? I’d be interested in reading it, Dr. Scott. Or maybe just post it here, as well?
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Ralph Nader has been somewhat of a hero of mine, since I learned about “Unsafe at Any Speed,” and read “On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors” in the early 1980s. Thanks for pointing out this website.
I have not subscribed to the website yet, but did notice the list referencing the anticholinergic drugs is missing the fact they can cause psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome, which I believe is highly relevant information. But I’m not that surprised that Nadar is also pointing out the fraud of big Pharma.
Thank you, Allen, and I’m glad some psychologists are speaking the truth … maybe I’ll look for your book next time I’m in a book store.
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As a doctor, I would imagine you understand why the psychologists want to bill, via the fraudulent manner all MDs do. But as an ethical banker’s daughter, I also do see the systemic fraud (not only of the MDs, but also of my father’s industry) ….
I understand why you say the “DSM is intractable,” but I disagree. I do believe the introduction of the internet, will eventually take down the scientific fraud based, scientifically “invalid,” greed only inspired DSM “bible” billers.
But, only time will tell, and it’s good for intelligent people to discuss these important issues, so thank you for your comment.
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“In the 1900s, when psychiatry divorced from psychology and psychoanalysis, it became the turf keeper of biology and chemistry.”
I disagree that psychology and psychiatry are “divorced” now, especially the DSM “bible” billing psychologists, which I think is most of them.
Since my experience with psychologists is they are “partnered” with the religions, but also function as funnels to the psychiatrists … to cover up egregious crimes for the mainstream paternalistic religions.
Instead I must admit to being one of the “anti-psychiatrists,” who realize “that you cannot modify psychiatry; you must revolutionize it, you have to abolish it.” As any DSM “bible” billing, ethical psychologist should admit.
Since you can’t bill with an “invalid” psychiatric DSM “bible,” and be “divorced” from the “BS” of the DSM deluded psychiatric industry, psychologists.
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We really do need to end the psychiatric / psychologic DSM defamation and neurotoxic poisoning of all people … but especially of those still of childbearing age, and younger.
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“‘Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep in SSRI-exposed fetuses is an abnormal phenomenon, but its significance for postnatal development is unclear,’ the researchers concluded” … based upon what research?
Since from what I’ve read, I’m pretty certain REM sleep is very important. And you may be right about akathisia being the cause of “Bodily activity at high rate during non-REM sleep,” which is not good either.
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Thank you for sharing your story. As I was reading it, it reminded me of what the “medical model” has as a deplorable goal, IMHO. The “medical model” is all about labeling people with their “life long incurable,” but “invalid,” DSM disorders, then neurotoxic poisoning their clients. And that satanic “medical model” is all about stealing hope from people, which I think is a deplorable goal.
Thanks again for sharing your inspiring story about how a non-money based model, that’s not about stealing hope, works so much better … albeit it’s not profitable. But shouldn’t we human beings be trying to help and care for one another anyway, not only for profit?
For goodness sakes, have you ever thought about the totally fraudulent aspect of the medical/pharmaceutical/insurance industrial complex’s payment system? A quick example, that hopefully will point out the fraud of it all.
I was handed an “art manager” contract by a psychologist who wanted me to pay him, to paint for him, while he “managed” me (via a ‘take a % of gross’ aspect of the contract), after I gave him total control of all my money (via the ‘conservatorship contract’ aspect of that thievery contract).
That’s actually the absurdity of how today’s US medical community charges the rest of us for their supposed “help.” In all honesty, it’s fraud.
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Are you Al, or AI? Perhaps my comment was not clear enough, regarding my lack of respect towards the entirety of the scientifically “invalid” “mental health” industries?
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Thank you, Rob, for pointing out that the psych industries are NOT the solution, and actually are a part of the problem. I agree housing first, would be a part of the solution.
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“Study Warns of Overreliance on Rapid Tranquillisation in Women’s Psychiatric Care.”
Yes, my medical records speak to this truth. My now FBI convicted, former doctor, is only a small part of a huge societal paternalistic problem.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/oak-brook-doctor-sentenced-two-years-prison-connection-kickback-scheme-sacred-heart
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I agree, psychological reductionism is staggeringly stupid, to the point it’s downright insane; and it is based upon the “chemical imbalance” lie. Honestly, the older psych “professionals” should be downright ashamed of themselves.
I mean, what is “professional” about now claiming to know nothing about the common adverse and withdrawal effects of the products one is selling / forcing others to purchase? There is nothing “professional” about that at all … and that comes from an honest sales professional, whose clients loved what I designed for them. Not that I didn’t turn a requested $2000 backsplash potential sale, into a $70,000 wainscoted laundry room sale, when I knew I was dealing with an extremely wealthy client.
It’s very important to know and respectfully understand one’s clients. I also had a not-too-wealthy client, who kept coming back to me, because I could design a backsplash and foyer floor, that combined the diamonds with the blue jeans (analogy), in a unique and beautiful manner.
I had to leave my psychiatrist, once I’d read all the misinformation he’d gotten from people who didn’t know me, instead of actually listening to me, written right in his medical records. And he did, very literally, declare the entirety of my life to be, “a credible fictional story” in his medical records … too insane for me, unprofessional “psych professionals.”
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I agree, denial of trauma by the so called “mental health professionals” is the problem, and I agree to some extent with No-one, too. Since I had to walk away from my husband’s highly dysfunctional family. And I won’t let any dysfunctional family, including a highly dysfunctional religious “family,” divide me from my real family, which is why I had to leave my childhood religion forever.
My mom was recently “hospitalized” for over two months, and her “religious family” never even came to visit her once. I think she got one card, from a friend of ours, within that highly dysfunctional “religious family.”
I agree with Steve’s comment below, “How anyone imagines that inducing a seizure through electrocution can be anything but harmful to the brain is truly beyond comprehension!”
So does that mean we “need more research funding” for ECT research? Or should we just – utilizing common sense – end ECT? I personally think the latter is the wiser approach. Especially given the intentional lack of research into ECT, by the well funded, but scientifically “invalid” psych industries, at this point.
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After reading this:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/meta-ai-chatbot-guidelines/
I ask, why are chatbots even legal at all?
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I don’t understand why, “According to the researchers here (and the researchers in other studies that similarly find patients don’t want their doctors to use AI), it’s the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI and ’emphasize its potential benefits’ to convince them to accept AI use:”
Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” Are the doctors now, not just the whores of big Pharma, but also whores of big Tech/AI, too?
“’From the physician’s perspective it thus may be important to transparently communicate the rationale for using AI and to emphasize its potential benefits for the patient,’ they write.”
“(Note: The researchers do not list any benefits in their article.)”
As one who knows AI is often wrong, I’ll ask again, Why is it “the job of doctors to dismiss patients’ concerns about AI?” And what are the actual benefits of AI to the majority (your clients), doctors?
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Thank you for sharing your story/perspective, Jasmine. I agree, this is an important topic to discuss. As a fellow psych survivor, I can write my story as a hero’s journey story, that does not match any of the narratives you point out as the psych industries’ “narrative.”
“Exposition: Establish protagonist (main character), the afflicted,” would be me. A women who is supposed to be a “judge,” according to 40 hours of unbiased psychological career testing, an ethical banker’s daughter, a “tailor who sings with the Lord,” singing “that’s me in the spotlight losing my religion,” who hopes and prays we can all work our way towards healing … and eventually wisdom.
“Rising Action: Establish conflict: Symptom onset. Illness develops.” I will say distress, not “illness” developed, in my personal case … due to the worldwide distress of 9.11.2001 … which was my personal “Rising Action.”
“Climax: Protagonist confronts their obstacle, seeking professional help and receiving a clinical diagnosis.”
I did this, was a compliant patient, and was slowly weaned off of the majority of the psych drugs by my psychiatrist by 2005. Because once I’d stop seeing a pathological lying psychologist, my psychiatrist concluded I’d been misdiagnosed by that non-medically trained psychologist, which, of course, was true (a misdiagnosis of brain zaps, which weren’t known to the psych industries as a common withdrawal symptom of antidepressant discontinuation syndrome until 2005, but which was blatant malpractice according to the DSM-IV-TR at the time, and still should be).
“Falling Action: Protagonist diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication, and starts to get better.”
Well, I did “diligently attends therapy and/or takes medication.” But no, repeated anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings, made me much worse. However, I did start to get much better, as I was weaned off the anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings.
“Resolution: Full recovery! Victory!”
Well, not quite so simplistic … my “resolution”/”elixir” was getting off the psych drugs … but the withdrawal wasn’t at all easy, initially. And I did have to do a whole lot of research, and personal self healing. So I would say, I’m still on my healing journey, and will likely be my entire life, and I think I will spend my entire life working my way towards wisdom.
That’s not a bad thing, however I’m not certain it could be claimed to be “Full recovery! Victory!” either. But the Jungian psychologists do seem to see the wisdom of spending one’s life working their way towards wisdom. And hopefully, if we all collectively work our way towards wisdom, we can help heal humanity together. And that would be a true “Victory!”
Life’s a journey, a search for wisdom, for all of us.
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“Audre Lorde’s famous quote, ‘the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house,'” is a good quote. I’m glad the younger psychologists/couselors are garnering insight into the fact that the “master” is not the psychiatrists, and their “BS” DSM, nor yourselves. God save us all.
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