Thanks FeelinDiscouraged — yeh i thought it sounded a bit new world order- 🙂 – i just mean one government anywhere- lol. maybe i worded that wrong. I don’t care how it happens to be honest-just that it happens- i just think any one government- anywhere, would be a winner,- big winner- well would to me , anyone hurting from the system– the can’t es-capers- really need the new healing recovery withdrawal wards- and the people who messed them up, against their wishes- fixing it- them- so everyone heals- but they’re just not doing it, in spite of stealing those two words, from the victims,-and using them themselves,- without opening the wards to go with the words,-and that’s what’s broken the camels back- for me- it has – like when confronted about that, the new adopted words, they said were evolving too- we evolve- i said oh yeh, sure, when are the withdrawal wards coming, then, to prove it, silence, and then on the safe wards site- i was told they are healing and recovering- turns out its just in their minds- like business as usual- so that was it, right then and there i decided i cant do this anymore- they just pretend , and lie, i can take a lie, when i know it is- but pretense, is too much, you don’t know when their lying, or telling the truth, and fifteen years at this war, i just decided stuff everything- its eating me alive, and everyone else, even though some people seem to handle it, its all too much war for me, in me, and all my family, then i thought if you think about it- nothings changed in fifteen years- maybe they’ve gotten worse even- and it feels like the more you say, the more they lie or be silent, and in a strange way the more they win, because most of the words coming at them are in angst, and angst repels, so hard to know what the best way to be- speak is-, how to tell the story so that the people can take it on board- or inside without feeling repelled or awkward from the driving force when the drivers an angst-or very much that, or of course that could be just me and me caught up in a me kind of way- either way, theirs caught up- and then their’s “Caught Up”- that’s me- 🙂 – and i just cant be , i know were all the same in the sense, no one ever wanted or should have been caught up by this horribly violent system of care- but the horrible, aren’t seeing the horrible they are- acting- being to people- 15 yrs later- so it has to be one government, anywhere, who has to save over fifty percent of the people- according to those latest figures- the 75 studies-over fifteen years- from last week- that says over half do better not on the drugs- which to me says today things have to change- not tomorrow- and that should be on the front page of the mainstream news- because that means- ipso facto- they’re hurting five or more- to help five or less-potentially even- is enough to take that law away- it “means” their abusing their power- and abusing over half the people doing it-to me that’s a government- or the police or and a court case away- because its criminal– clearly- has to be- imagine a surgeon with a track record like that- or a real doctor of any type- saves 4.5- kills 5.5– doubt they’d even get that far- so i think its gone beyond speaking to them- its time to demand , not from them, they’ve shown/ and proven- themselves to be who and what were saying, that only leaves the governments giving them the power to do so. Any one of them could be the difference and the start to something beautiful- or something- were never gonna get out of, these tyrants who see themselves as healers- recover- ers- all of a sudden- well over the last 5/6 years anyway, are totally in denial. and have an arrogance that’s beyond connecting to or with, that’s so up itself, even if you wanted to, you cant.. and when you do- its- jibber this- jibber that-will you- no i wont- do you- no i don’t- just can’t do that any more. I feel like- nah your not talking to me any more- your too crooked and corrupt to even talk to- and you don’t answer anyway-not honestly that’s for sure- and their all well and truly indoctrinated- do you or anyone you know try to talk to cult people who knock on your door, out of their cults- i doubt it- and we all know why- this is the same thing- these people are the same ilk- or cult type people-indoctrinated mentalities- closed minded-everything about them “screams” cult- so government-any one- take their power away- take the cults power- to force drug us, away. To be honest i cant do it anymore cause of the emotions – too angry for way too long- the back and forth just keeps the porridge bubbling- the one line- maybe two- will help me inside-where its been too much- like it is for anyone being stood over – poisoned- or watching helplessly whilst one of our own is dragged down and kept down- by the same people- so if i can word it right in say two lines or so- and know inside that its just about getting the message into the psyches/ hearts-of some people- any people- it might start a ball rolling’ that gathers momentum, and keeps going- like a trend- when one follows, someone else does- so two things- for myself cause i still want to try- but cant keep going back and forward chewing the cud-and two- I firmly believe its the way forward- like the common sense of me- in me- is telling me. were past the rest- its time for these governments who give them the authority, their abising, and abusing us with, to take it away, cause its so clearly- hurting/harming people- their report and statistically- and theyr’e so clearly not listening and sill doing it to people- hurting them- and over half- end of story, end of talking, time to put up- feels like talking, when that’s happened, is wrong- beyond talk- cause that’s(new data) the sign, and the time for government to step in- which you would either expect them to, or for the people doing it, to stop it- immediately- and neither has happened- so that’s it- that means- you don’t talk- that means you go to the source of the problem- and that’s the government letting them- not them- their corrupt and stupid- poisoned by their own poisons- and that’s literally, with last weeks figure of 75% of new doctors are all sick in the head- and all on their own mind bending drugs- so not only shouldn’t they be practicing- but their obviously not well- sitting in judgement on others- how bent is that- the loonies judging the loonies- so that in itself says we can really only talk to 25% of them- and expect a real answer from- not a scew with, drug effected answer from-mixed in with their shot, drug addled, already troubled emotions- and thinking- loonies running the show. Anyway see what i mean- im sure i could have said most of that in a couple of sentences-:-) .or I write a miles worth- when a few inches/lines will/would do. Anyway thanks for connecting-i love this site mate- this is the best site, with the best people. ,- the most clued up, in touch with the pulse, place, out there. Its only an offering – if it feels like im telling -im sorry, im not about dictating- or telling people things- take it style- when they’re the pulse and the energy of the fight were all about especially- too much respect and appreciation for that- just wanted to say that. To me this is like an offering to the gods- that might be going a bit far for all of us- but its something like that–:-) maybe the kings of loving- cause to me when people want to enlighten people- help people- especially people feeling terrorized- traumatized by a system of care- which is an oxmoron- then those people- you guys- send out the most love- the most meaning- the most caring- the most hope- the most guiding words , and the most good. Just the way it is- the way, and the weighing- of things.