Tuesday, March 28, 2017

Comments by Shawn

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  • Wow what a horrible situation to be in.

    I have a possible suggestion for a way to potentially get some money to help with legal costs for Reid or at least help get his family out of debt though this will take some time to do and certainly may not get anywhere.

    On the website Surviving Antidepressants there is talk of a class action lawsuit in the works against drug companies for causing people movement disorders. Apparently a lawyer has agreed to take the case IF enough people can be found to join. As it sounds like Reid may have had two movement disorder issues (restlessness is very likely to be akathisia which is a drug-induced movement disorder; and the twitching could be myoclonic jerks) if it gets anywhere he would likely qualify for the suit.

    I would assume it is free to join and from what I read you may not even have to prove with a doctor’s backing that you had it (I’d assume since they can lie). With him being incarcerated in a hospital though that would of course go a fair way to helping him make his case that he did have movement issues as almost no one stays in those places without being drugged. Most psychiatric drugs can also cause movement disorders too.

    Also this of course would be open to anyone else who had any movement disorders from psychiatric drugs, so any survivors posting here who are in the US or families of people who are locked up who fit this should look into it immediately. It applies also to people who have fully recovered from movement disorders as well.

    To find the info go to Surviving Antidepressants and then look under the Current Events section for a thread titled “Class action lawsuit? Drug-induced movement disorders”.

    Also I am not sure if Reid’s Mom has tried contacting the various professionals who are well informed about the psych drug/violence link, but perhaps they’d have some suggestions as to what to do. You could try Dr. David Healy; Dr. Peter Breggin; Dr. Yolande Lucire; and/or Dr. Ann Blake Tracy.

    I hope that his Mom and the others posting here who have family in similar situations will continue to stick around the site. And please add my voice to those who send their regards to Reid.

  • Is saying psych meds are “hokum” more dangerous than promoting their use in light of studies like this:

    “The best available evidence shows that unmedicated patients with bipolar disorder do not have a higher risk of suicide.

    Storosum and colleagues analyzed all placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized trials of mood stabilizers for the prevention of manic/depressive episode that were part of a registration dossier submitted to the regulatory authority of the Netherlands, the Medicines Evaluation Board, between 1997 and 2003 [28]. They found four such prophylaxis trials. They compared suicide risk in patients on placebo compared with patients on active medication. Two suicides (493/100,000 person- years of exposure) and eight suicide attempts (1,969/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the group given an active drug (943 patients), but no suicides and two suicide attempts (1,467/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the placebo group (418 patients). Based on these absolute numbers from these four trials, I have calculated (see Figure S1 showing calculation, and see Figure 2) that active agents are most likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo (95% CI 0.5, 10.00).

    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0030185

  • I just read the article and it says this (in contrast to what is written above):

    “Earlier, sources said investigators found medications, but that proved later not to be accurate.”

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    I want to point out to people a few things about head injuries, as it was reported elsewhere that she had one.

    First of all, it seems likely her license should have been revoked if she had one. I don’t know how things work in the US but in the country I live you can have your license taken for good if you see a doctor for a head injury. This would be completely justified as head injuries can cause all kinds of bizarre behavior. Had this simple precaution been taken and her access to a vehicle limited this whole tragedy would have been avoided.

    Second, there is such a thing as differential diagnosis. Though I am sure doctors get away with this, there is a good chance she should not have been getting slapped with labels of “mental illness” if she had a known head injury.

    Here is a relevant case which touches on differential diagnosis just posted on the site under the article “How Clean Underwear Saved a Life”. It involved a man who hit his head and suffered a subdural hematoma, who eventually went on to develop bizarre behaviors which were at first presumed by one doctor to be “schizophrenic”, a diagnosis which would have proved disastrous:

    “…our patient—had staggered and stumbled, fell to the ground and hit his head, but rose up again, as if nothing had happened. Hence, no action was taken at the time. The neurosurgery service reported that the patient was doing well and was expected to recover.

    It all made sense in retrospect. Subdural hematomas are high on our list of differential diagnoses. They are nowhere near as common as chronic schizophrenia, but identifying their presence, and acting on that information, can be lifesaving and can prevent permanent damage.

    The friends and family did not know that subdural hematomas bleed gradually, sometimes taking months before their size increases enough to put pressure on the brain and change behavior. In this case, the bleed was still circumscribed and caused expressive aphasia alone.

    It’s always fun to reminisce about good cases. I can’t help but think of the present and the future, when many think that psychiatry is all about writing prescriptions and practicing psychopharmacology. In this case, it was the medical differential diagnosis that made the difference. As psychiatrists, we rotate through neurology. We get certified by the Board of Psychiatry and Neurology (and not by the non­existent board of psychiatry and psychopharmacology). What if someone with “prescriptive privileges” looked at superficial symptoms only, and ordered antipsychotics without considering the bigger picture? By dawn, the patient would have been dead.”
    – See more at: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/schizophrenia/how-clean-underwear-saved-life/page/0/2#sthash.20OPgHsN.dpuf

    I’m not a doctor, but I’d like to know why this woman was being diagnosed as mentally ill if she had a head injury. It seems to me there is a good chance that a major mistake was made.

  • Regarding Trazodone, there’s a fair list of possible adverse effects on Rx list which could explain his behavior:

    http://www.rxlist.com/desyrel-drug/side-effects-interactions.htm

    Of note are reports of agitation, akathisia, hallucinations, abnormal dreams, hypomania. On the page after the one in the link there’s a fairly bold caution about giving it to people who are supposedly bipolar, as it might unmask mania. The standard cover-up for iatrogenic issues.

    And not that this is directly relevant, but as an FYI to men reading here who might be taking it: It says on that page it can cause priapism, which can eventually lead to permanent impotence via surgery.

  • Horrifying.

    I would like to know as well if anything can be done to help her out.

    Their determination to get justice reminds me of the author and Canadian politician Terence Young’s struggle for same after his daughter was killed by a drug. He wrote the book Death by Prescription, and as I understand it had a similar struggle trying to get the responsible parties held to account.

  • Duane and Donna, glad you liked them!

    I have to say too that I’ve been admiring your respective comments on this site for quite a while now. You both seem to have a knack for keeping it real. Your comments have been invaluable to me as antidote to the nonsense psychiatry churns out.

    Keep up the good work!

    Shawn

  • “It remains a very useful book for other purposes.”

    Seeing as though I didn’t read the article, I’m going to take a stab at what those purposes could be:

    Origami. Toilet paper. Paper mache. Kindling…

    It also could make a good doorstop. Might I suggest using it for propping open the door to the locked ward in hospital?

  • Oh, one more point:

    “If you scroll back up this story, you’ll remember that one possible cause of PTSD is “being kidnapped or held captive”; if you’re held on a psychiatric ward against your will, or once there are forced to ingest toxic chemicals against your better judgment, or are enduring the torturous symptoms of a too-rapid withdrawal from medication, as is often the case, then there will be scars.”

    I don’t know if you are familiar with Judith Herman’s work–she’s one of the “experts” on trauma and the effects of captivity. I’ve only read about her work. I wonder if you have read anything by her (or if anyone else here has), does she speak about people in captivity in psychiatric prisons? I’m going to bet that she doesn’t but I’d be happy to hear otherwise.

  • Interesting article and I am glad you are able to reframe what happened to you.

    I was on benzos for years, and like so many others was never warned at the outset how even two weeks of daily use can mean you’ll have a hard time getting off them. I was put on them for a drug reaction. Didn’t solve anything and made the issues I had infinitely worse, and they did an awful lot of damage to my memory. It was a nice touch too that they gave me benzos for akathisia, without telling me that they also cause akathisia.

    It’s interesting to see here that you have many of the same issues that I have now. Particularly the bluntness. I find I continually get right to the point in a way that, well, some people don’t much appreciate. It’s been quite a change to my personality and one I’m having hard time adapting to. Sometimes in order not to blurt out things which might not be appropriate I have to focus very hard not to talk. Which in and of itself is a bit strange because for the first long while after I started the drugs I couldn’t think of anything at all to say. My conversations consisted of “hi.” At least I was friendly I guess.

    I’m also surprised you have the difficulty initiating something. Good to know I’m not the only one.

    With regards to trauma in general, I was so overcome by what happened to me (and to others I know) that I would find it impossible to reframe some of what happened at least. One thing that has helped a little with trauma is a series of exercises designed to release tension. Trauma Releasing Exercises. I got the book and did the treatments on my own. It was a bit liberating having something i could do to feel less physically tense without having to pay yet another person whom is uninformed about how damaging drugs or the system can be. And it has helped with reactivity–I can now read about psychiatry without freaking out nearly as much as I would before. But the major issue now is trying to come to terms with all that I have lost, and the unrelenting fear that psychiatry could one day harm me yet again. I can’t go in for another round, I’m sure it would be my undoing. And with all the laws coming out lately all over the place that are upping the psychiatric oppression I find the trauma, even though lessened, is like a background hum that follows me everywhere.

    Anyway thank you for sharing your story, it’s helped me hearing it.

  • I share the reservations Sera articulates regarding this article. What this reads like is a kind of mental health McCarthyism. I am sure the author means well, but nonetheless this article demonstrates that the author is missing critical pieces of information needed to truly prevent suicide.

    The following is taken from the product monograph listed on the Health Canada database regarding the anti-depressant [sic] Paxil:

    “Adult and Pediatrics: Additional data

    There are clinical trial and post-marketing reports with SSRIs and other newer anti-depressants, in both pediatrics and adults, of severe agitation-type adverse events coupled with self-harm and harm to others. The agitation-type events include: akathisia, agitation, disinhibition, emotional lability, hostility, aggression, depersonalization. In some cases the events occurred within weeks of starting treatments.”

    Turning in people who seem “off” can lead to their death via suicide because the drugs they use cause to treat “depression” cause suicide.

    Additionally, anti-depressants also cause something called serotonin toxicity which can kill a person outright.

    And many other psychiatric drugs which are used on people labeled “mentally ill” can promote suicide, via akathisia, by inducing psychosis, and various other problems. A number of drugs can kill people via seizures, if not tapered off of properly. All psychiatric drugs can kill people via allergic reactions. Some drugs can also kill people by inducing something called neuroleptic malignant syndrome. Anti-psychotics [sic] can kill people slowly by inducing diabetes or pancreatitis. Lithium can kill people because it’s so-called therapeutic range is not very far removed from the range into which it becomes toxic. It can kill someone by causing kidney failure or via heart failure. Electroshock, which is routinely used in many states and works by causing brain damage, can kill a person outright. And almost all if not all psychiatric drugs can induce withdrawal states which look like but are not “mental illness”, which could lead a person to suicide. Etc…

    Also, “mental illness” has no defined pathology attached to it. What that means is anyone can be detained and given the drugs which cause suicide or submitted to ECT.

    Lastly, a pertinent case of anti-depressants [sic] causing suicide is that of Traci Johnson. She was a healthy volunteer who killed herself during the drug trial for Cymbalta, which speaks to the fact that the drugs themselves and not the original problem (presuming there is one) cause suicide.

  • Great comment.

    “Dr. David Healy found in a study that despite biopsychiatry’s and BIG PHARMA’s constant lies, so called bipolar DOES NOT cause suicide, but toxic psych drugs like SSRI’s, neuroleptics used to supposedly treat bipolar and other bogus DSM stigmas do frequently cause suicide. ”

    Could you post the source for this quote? I am doing some research on the subject of the BP fraud and would love to see his evidence, it fits nicely with what I am writing. I am aware that the drugs cause suicide but had not seen stats which suggest BP doesn’t cause it. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Shawn