Thank you so much for bringing this book to my attention. I do not think my opinion differs much if at all with the authors, not just regarding the use of psychiatry to ” help people and their suffering ” or as Rosenthal correctly asserts make a ton of money. It might have been you that used this statement in a previous blog.
“Psychiatry has turned out to be the practice of using someone’s suffering against them for profit.”
I use that as my signature in my emails.
Thanks again
Jim
Eric
You make an excellent point. They are not ” side affects ” they are things the drugs do to people and you can count on them.
Thanks
Jim
Aryan
This is a well written and researched article. Thought provoking as it should be. Thank you so much.
Jim
Michael is there someway you can be cloned? A little joke but seriously how do people come to that place where they can listen to people in distress and pain, we seem so afraid, as if the pain of others might draw our suffering to the surface where it will be exposed and permanent.
You do make us stronger. Thank you.
Regarding “ psychiatric researchers “. It is shameful for those “ psychiatric researchers “ to even talk about bias. Shouldn’t they be much more concerned about the bias when testing is done by the drug companies to get the FDA approval. They should be far more concerned not only about the tests but also those results that do not get published. The bad ones are locked from public view and require a “freedom of information act” to unlock. That should be more concerning if they are truly interested in the welfare of people. Bad even if there were no serious side affects. And all the while promoting those anti-depressants to “ make people happy”. As if “Peoples happiness is most certainly their primary concern.”
WOW !!!!
Bob
Thanks for this info. I am working to reform our care in my city and will certain want to get that our local expenses from medicaid. I had sent an email to Miranda regarding this and if you have time to email me directly I can give you the details. In a nutshell I want to establish a Hearing Voices Network here, in addition I would like to establish a drug free or not mandatory crisis center and even a Soteria like house.
Best
Jim
From the comments there are a lot of pissed off people here……maybe it is time to do something……start a Hearing Voices Network….another Soteria type house……a crisis house where people might go when they feel like they need love and not drugs……….get to work people….it is up to us.
Megan
“Psychiatry has turned out to be the practice of using someone’s suffering against them for profit.”
If I may I will save that quote and use it profusely…brilliant.
Thank you so much
Jim
Pacific Dawn
Can I call you PD? you are so right about that. I have been to some parent support groups and some people just don’t want to hear it. NAMI …..hand out the drugs to your kids, your parents, hell just give them to everybody…..surprised they don’t have samples at the meetings.
We all need to be part of the group…………just that simple…..each and everyone of us…….fearlessly facing our own fears of ” not being normal “
Rachel
Isn’t it great to have someone else tell us how messed up we are……..some how they imagine they can do it better then we can…it would be funny..lol except it is not funny.
mhberman
Can you elaborate on what might transpire doing a session?
The story that I added a link to is a report from the Denver Post regarding a woman who was tasered and taken to jail while she was naked and getting ready to take a bath..The dangers of the ” wellness check ” .They don’t always go as planned and can have very bad consequences…very bad, including post traumatic stress and more. I would never trust the police to check on any one I cared about…for sure.
Megan
Thank you so much for bringing this book to my attention. I do not think my opinion differs much if at all with the authors, not just regarding the use of psychiatry to ” help people and their suffering ” or as Rosenthal correctly asserts make a ton of money. It might have been you that used this statement in a previous blog.
“Psychiatry has turned out to be the practice of using someone’s suffering against them for profit.”
I use that as my signature in my emails.
Thanks again
Jim
Eric
You make an excellent point. They are not ” side affects ” they are things the drugs do to people and you can count on them.
Thanks
Jim
Aryan
This is a well written and researched article. Thought provoking as it should be. Thank you so much.
Jim
Michael is there someway you can be cloned? A little joke but seriously how do people come to that place where they can listen to people in distress and pain, we seem so afraid, as if the pain of others might draw our suffering to the surface where it will be exposed and permanent.
You do make us stronger. Thank you.
Regarding “ psychiatric researchers “. It is shameful for those “ psychiatric researchers “ to even talk about bias. Shouldn’t they be much more concerned about the bias when testing is done by the drug companies to get the FDA approval. They should be far more concerned not only about the tests but also those results that do not get published. The bad ones are locked from public view and require a “freedom of information act” to unlock. That should be more concerning if they are truly interested in the welfare of people. Bad even if there were no serious side affects. And all the while promoting those anti-depressants to “ make people happy”. As if “Peoples happiness is most certainly their primary concern.”
WOW !!!!
Bob
Thanks for this info. I am working to reform our care in my city and will certain want to get that our local expenses from medicaid. I had sent an email to Miranda regarding this and if you have time to email me directly I can give you the details. In a nutshell I want to establish a Hearing Voices Network here, in addition I would like to establish a drug free or not mandatory crisis center and even a Soteria like house.
Best
Jim
From the comments there are a lot of pissed off people here……maybe it is time to do something……start a Hearing Voices Network….another Soteria type house……a crisis house where people might go when they feel like they need love and not drugs……….get to work people….it is up to us.
Megan
“Psychiatry has turned out to be the practice of using someone’s suffering against them for profit.”
If I may I will save that quote and use it profusely…brilliant.
Thank you so much
Jim
Pacific Dawn
Can I call you PD? you are so right about that. I have been to some parent support groups and some people just don’t want to hear it. NAMI …..hand out the drugs to your kids, your parents, hell just give them to everybody…..surprised they don’t have samples at the meetings.
We all need to be part of the group…………just that simple…..each and everyone of us…….fearlessly facing our own fears of ” not being normal “
Rachel
Isn’t it great to have someone else tell us how messed up we are……..some how they imagine they can do it better then we can…it would be funny..lol except it is not funny.
mhberman
Can you elaborate on what might transpire doing a session?
The story that I added a link to is a report from the Denver Post regarding a woman who was tasered and taken to jail while she was naked and getting ready to take a bath..The dangers of the ” wellness check ” .They don’t always go as planned and can have very bad consequences…very bad, including post traumatic stress and more. I would never trust the police to check on any one I cared about…for sure.
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/04/10/fremont-county-sheriff-lawsuit-naked/
There is no question in my mind she will be ” wounded ” forever from that treatment,
This story in the Denver Post should be a real wake up call regarding ” welfare checks”
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/04/10/fremont-county-sheriff-lawsuit-naked/