So the ultimate expert authority to greenlight a medical transition is a mental health worker with licensure to apply “diagnostic” labels, eh? Sounds about right.
Naw, sarcasm is fairly easy to detect and is regularly employed by folks who are unwilling/unable to engage in dialogue.
What the heck is the “homosexual debate?”
Right on. Debate is bad. Down with dialogue.
It may seem obvious to you, but it certainly does not seem obvious to everyone. Hence the debate.
Good question
The debate? For starters, is the urge to change genders adaptive or maladaptive? Is this urge something that ought to be facilitated? Questioned?Discouraged? Explored?
I did make such a comment on Ms. Gold’s HuffPo article, but comments are being blocked over there, or at least the dissenting ones.
A mental hospital is not a “therapeutic environment.”
Inman is no journalist! She’s a schoolteacher and a typical NAMI-mommy ideologue who happens to have a blog. She is not a friend to anyone capable of thinking critically about psychiatry.
Is it true that CBD is scheduled for inclusion in DSM-666?
Hi Alex,
I hesitate to chime in here, but it appears to me that Dr. Tarantolo is responding to your very first comment. I think he is actually agreeing with you that within the community that should be facilitating emotional healing, there is instead too much certainty and strong opinion and not enough humility. That’s the way I’m seeing it. Just trying to be a peacemaker here. Of course, I could be wrong . . .
No, blakeacake, you are not quoting Dr. Berezin. You are sort of paraphrasing him and misrepresenting him in the process. Regarding the use of psychiatric drugs with a terrified schizophrenia patient, what Dr. Berezin actually stated was
“Sometimes it helps to get back intactness.”
He also stated that he never imposes meds on anybody and that the real work has nothing to do with meds.
AA, I agree with your assessment. And, I’d like to join you in apologizing to Dr. Berezin for getting sucked into blakeacake’s disruptive sideshow.
Maybe we could try biting our typing fingers in a literal sense? 🙂
Yeah, I don’t think ADHD is the issue here either. Blakeacake seems to enjoy provoking others and being mendacious and manipulative for her(?) own entertainment. That kind of behavior is sure to engender some intense dislike from one’s peers and family members.
Your granddad sounds too good to be true. ha ha And you’re being disrespectful to him to suggest he’d be dumb enough to fall for bogus, voted-in DSM “diagnoses” like ADD & ADHD. But then maybe your granddad really IS too good to be true, as in fictional?
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blakeacake,
Why do you recommend that Donna locate Dr. Baughman’s “most recent, published, peer-reviewed research”? Do you mean a medical journal article? Are you so naïve as to believe that a medical journal is some sort of bastion of scientific integrity? Do you believe that a published journal article has more credibility than a published book? If so, why? Donna is obviously too well informed to share your blind faith in the stuff that the medical journals post.
Donna’s not alone: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201501/the-crisis-confidence-in-medical-research
I would guess that most people who visit this site are too well informed to share your sychophantic devotion to the Church of (so-called) Evidence Based Medicine. So if you’re looking for converts to proselytize, you’re not going to find them here.
What’s with the sunglasses?
Thanks for reiterating your point, Dr. Burstow. I agree with you wholeheartedly!
“ECT cannot reasonably be compared to cutting one’s self.” Why not? Both ECT and cutting may bring about temporary relief from mental distress at the cost of bodily injury. It’s a perfectly reasonable comparison. Francesca, would you approve of offering”cutting” as a medical “treatment” to alleviate mental distress? How about DIY shock machines? What if I want mental relief without the visible scars? Shouldn’t we be free to shock ourselves in the comfort of our own homes? The more choices, the better, right? Or how about offering shock in bars as an alternative to the relief provided by booze? http://www.shock-girl.com/dont-drink-and-drive/
Which brings up another possible choice – how about offering booze therapy as a medical treatment?
“I’m not always peeved by typos,” but when I am, I appoint myself the Grand Marshal of The Huffy Tirade Parade. You’ve all misunderstood Jeffrey. He’s engaging in satire by ripping off my meme.
Stay thirsty, my friends!
@ Uprising – Constructive criticism? Your typo is so “BAD” that it caused me to become so “PEEVED” that I am completely unable to read anything else beyond your typo. Constructive criticism would be simply pointing out the typo, minus the angry, shaming tone. N’est-ce pas? That’s how I read it.
OK. I’ll bite. I would guess that “on and one” qualifies as a typo – a typing mistake – while “peeved by typo’s” is a spelling mistake – caused by ignorance. But what’s the difference, Stephen? My point being, is this any way to treat Mr. Wipond, a newcomer to our group of esteemed MIA writers? Publicly lambaste (albeit clumsily in an illiterate fashion) him and dismiss his brilliant article for a single typo? WTH? What disgraceful behavior.
. . . said the charred pine twig to the ebony fingerboard. There’s a typo in the second line of your comment, Jeffrey. The plural of “typo” is not “typo’s.” The plural of “typo” is “typos.” Maybe your mistake was just a typo, but in case it was due to ignorance, let me give you some examples of how “typo’s” might be used CORRECTLY in a sentence. Here we go. “Your typo’s annoying as snot.” OR “The typo’s appearance in the text hurled Jeffrey into a paroxysm of judgmental ire.
You’re welcome. 🙂
Dr. Davidson posted a hum-dinger of a response to Torrey’s and Amador’s attacks, as follows:
“I can reassure Drs. E. Fuller Torrey and Xavier Amador that I know of their theory linking anosognosia to schizophrenia [May 1, letter, “Neurological Basis For Denying Illness”; and May 3, letter, “Condition Obscures Mental Illness”]. Anosognosia is a neurological condition in patients with nondominant parietal lobe lesions, who deny their partial paralysis.”
“I can understand wanting to apply this notion to mentally ill persons who refuse treatment, but there are at least five reasons not to:
1) No such lesions have been found in schizophrenia, despite over 200 years of research looking for them. What Drs. Amador and Torrey have is a theory, not a fact. Other than justifying outpatient commitment, this theory has led to no breakthroughs in treatment. ”
“Not only are such theories dangerous, but they 2) do not explain how so many people with schizophrenia gain insight and recover over time; 3) do not take into account the power of stigma, which persons with mental illnesses identify as the major barrier to accessing care; 4) do not take into account the limited effectiveness and responsiveness of much mental health care; and 5) do not support outpatient commitment because schizophrenia is the least likely condition among the mental illnesses to be implicated in the extremely rare acts of violence that occur.”
What kind of “filling” did you have in mind for the “flaky pastry?”
So the ultimate expert authority to greenlight a medical transition is a mental health worker with licensure to apply “diagnostic” labels, eh? Sounds about right.
Naw, sarcasm is fairly easy to detect and is regularly employed by folks who are unwilling/unable to engage in dialogue.
What the heck is the “homosexual debate?”
Right on. Debate is bad. Down with dialogue.
It may seem obvious to you, but it certainly does not seem obvious to everyone. Hence the debate.
Good question
The debate? For starters, is the urge to change genders adaptive or maladaptive? Is this urge something that ought to be facilitated? Questioned?Discouraged? Explored?
I did make such a comment on Ms. Gold’s HuffPo article, but comments are being blocked over there, or at least the dissenting ones.
A mental hospital is not a “therapeutic environment.”
Inman is no journalist! She’s a schoolteacher and a typical NAMI-mommy ideologue who happens to have a blog. She is not a friend to anyone capable of thinking critically about psychiatry.
Is it true that CBD is scheduled for inclusion in DSM-666?
Hi Alex,
I hesitate to chime in here, but it appears to me that Dr. Tarantolo is responding to your very first comment. I think he is actually agreeing with you that within the community that should be facilitating emotional healing, there is instead too much certainty and strong opinion and not enough humility. That’s the way I’m seeing it. Just trying to be a peacemaker here. Of course, I could be wrong . . .
No, blakeacake, you are not quoting Dr. Berezin. You are sort of paraphrasing him and misrepresenting him in the process. Regarding the use of psychiatric drugs with a terrified schizophrenia patient, what Dr. Berezin actually stated was
“Sometimes it helps to get back intactness.”
He also stated that he never imposes meds on anybody and that the real work has nothing to do with meds.
AA, I agree with your assessment. And, I’d like to join you in apologizing to Dr. Berezin for getting sucked into blakeacake’s disruptive sideshow.
Maybe we could try biting our typing fingers in a literal sense? 🙂
Don’t take the bait, Dr. Berezin! According to info from the Official Journal of the International Society for the Study of Individual Differences ( posted above by Suzanne Beachy), the best thing you can do when encountering internet trolls is to ignore them.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
Yeah, I don’t think ADHD is the issue here either. Blakeacake seems to enjoy provoking others and being mendacious and manipulative for her(?) own entertainment. That kind of behavior is sure to engender some intense dislike from one’s peers and family members.
Your granddad sounds too good to be true. ha ha And you’re being disrespectful to him to suggest he’d be dumb enough to fall for bogus, voted-in DSM “diagnoses” like ADD & ADHD. But then maybe your granddad really IS too good to be true, as in fictional?
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blakeacake,
Why do you recommend that Donna locate Dr. Baughman’s “most recent, published, peer-reviewed research”? Do you mean a medical journal article? Are you so naïve as to believe that a medical journal is some sort of bastion of scientific integrity? Do you believe that a published journal article has more credibility than a published book? If so, why? Donna is obviously too well informed to share your blind faith in the stuff that the medical journals post.
Donna’s not alone:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201501/the-crisis-confidence-in-medical-research
I would guess that most people who visit this site are too well informed to share your sychophantic devotion to the Church of (so-called) Evidence Based Medicine. So if you’re looking for converts to proselytize, you’re not going to find them here.
What’s with the sunglasses?
Thanks for reiterating your point, Dr. Burstow. I agree with you wholeheartedly!
Interesting comments! How about DIY electroshock treatments? Empowering? Bad idea?
http://www.businessinsider.com/test-driving-the-do-it-yourself-electroshock-therapy-kit-2010-11
“ECT cannot reasonably be compared to cutting one’s self.” Why not? Both ECT and cutting may bring about temporary relief from mental distress at the cost of bodily injury. It’s a perfectly reasonable comparison. Francesca, would you approve of offering”cutting” as a medical “treatment” to alleviate mental distress? How about DIY shock machines? What if I want mental relief without the visible scars? Shouldn’t we be free to shock ourselves in the comfort of our own homes? The more choices, the better, right? Or how about offering shock in bars as an alternative to the relief provided by booze?
http://www.shock-girl.com/dont-drink-and-drive/
Which brings up another possible choice – how about offering booze therapy as a medical treatment?
“I’m not always peeved by typos,” but when I am, I appoint myself the Grand Marshal of The Huffy Tirade Parade. You’ve all misunderstood Jeffrey. He’s engaging in satire by ripping off my meme.
Stay thirsty, my friends!
@ Uprising – Constructive criticism? Your typo is so “BAD” that it caused me to become so “PEEVED” that I am completely unable to read anything else beyond your typo. Constructive criticism would be simply pointing out the typo, minus the angry, shaming tone. N’est-ce pas? That’s how I read it.
OK. I’ll bite. I would guess that “on and one” qualifies as a typo – a typing mistake – while “peeved by typo’s” is a spelling mistake – caused by ignorance. But what’s the difference, Stephen? My point being, is this any way to treat Mr. Wipond, a newcomer to our group of esteemed MIA writers? Publicly lambaste (albeit clumsily in an illiterate fashion) him and dismiss his brilliant article for a single typo? WTH? What disgraceful behavior.
. . . said the charred pine twig to the ebony fingerboard. There’s a typo in the second line of your comment, Jeffrey. The plural of “typo” is not “typo’s.” The plural of “typo” is “typos.” Maybe your mistake was just a typo, but in case it was due to ignorance, let me give you some examples of how “typo’s” might be used CORRECTLY in a sentence. Here we go. “Your typo’s annoying as snot.” OR “The typo’s appearance in the text hurled Jeffrey into a paroxysm of judgmental ire.
You’re welcome. 🙂
Dr. Davidson posted a hum-dinger of a response to Torrey’s and Amador’s attacks, as follows:
“I can reassure Drs. E. Fuller Torrey and Xavier Amador that I know of their theory linking anosognosia to schizophrenia [May 1, letter, “Neurological Basis For Denying Illness”; and May 3, letter, “Condition Obscures Mental Illness”]. Anosognosia is a neurological condition in patients with nondominant parietal lobe lesions, who deny their partial paralysis.”
“I can understand wanting to apply this notion to mentally ill persons who refuse treatment, but there are at least five reasons not to:
1) No such lesions have been found in schizophrenia, despite over 200 years of research looking for them. What Drs. Amador and Torrey have is a theory, not a fact. Other than justifying outpatient commitment, this theory has led to no breakthroughs in treatment. ”
“Not only are such theories dangerous, but they 2) do not explain how so many people with schizophrenia gain insight and recover over time; 3) do not take into account the power of stigma, which persons with mental illnesses identify as the major barrier to accessing care; 4) do not take into account the limited effectiveness and responsiveness of much mental health care; and 5) do not support outpatient commitment because schizophrenia is the least likely condition among the mental illnesses to be implicated in the extremely rare acts of violence that occur.”
What kind of “filling” did you have in mind for the “flaky pastry?”