Okay, having read this response and the response you gave below to uprising, I see now where you’re coming from more. I guess it becomes a matter of semantics to try to decide what term—”therapy,” “support,” “counseling,” etc.— leaves space inside its conceptual purview for what we are all trying to talk about. We are all trying to talk about ethical, realistic, and efficacious support for people as we try to simultaneously move from this cultural and economic situation to, hopefully, a healthier & more just one. In the context of an oppressive and highly stressful, atomized, and individualistic society like this one, any term we can bring… it will be possible to read any term (“therapy”/”counseling”/etc.) as reinforcing that system and its norms and assumptions. On the other hand, if we want to move from here to there, we need to be able to speak, using words that exist from “here,” about what we are trying to do to get to “there.” Nothing is pure. “Therapy,” support, peer support, community support, whatever we want to call it will not be pure. That doesnt mean that no one can give support without either pretending falsely to be Revolutionary or without alleging, on some level, that the people who need support are somehow the “problem”. What Khan-Cullours specifically was saying, I don’t care to debate now, and like you I am not especially impressed with BLM, which I vew as a fairly reformist and theoretically unsophisticated group. oldhead, I feel like we agree about quite a lot despite the fact that we seem to disagree about a lot of details. I am also in favor of revoltionary left approaches to this “mental health” issue—and MANY other societal problems. I am also quite suspicious of the “intersectional” talk that has become so popular as of late with progressives, which seems to just be that: a lot of talk with, as you said, “no comprehesions of what ‘the system’ actually is.” I’m increasingly skeptical of the progressive/left, despite viewing myself as withn the left tradition. After all that, though, I still believe that some humans can provide other humans, who may or may not be in their same social circles, with support specifically for reasons related to difficult emotional experiences, extreme states, stress, and overwhelm. I do not think it has to imply in any way that this support will “solve” structural problems like racism, poverty, or the increased stress of being a member of an historically subordinated & exploited class. As to where these “revolutionary service-providers” are going to come from– I don’t happen to believe that in order not to harm people, you have to have Correct Revolutionary Politics or Allegiances. I have a revolutionary perspective, so I might need a therapist/person who can-listen-and-not-harm-me with a revolutionary perspective. But studies show that talk therapy works at roughly equivalent effectiveness no matter the “modality” or approach brought by the therapist. Sure, the research isn’t conducted with “revolutionary” values or orientation, so it’s not 100%. Sure, I would like to see research that focuses less on “symptom-reduction” and “ability to return to work/previous functioning” and more on “whether the person is meeting their own goals for their lfe.” I would like to see therapists trained in critical thinking, especially sex therapists, gender therapists, and… basically all therapists. I would like to see therapists un-brainwashed about the idea of “disorders,” period. Yes to all that. But nonetheless I feel that the research does tell us that what is most important is the relationship & alliance between the two people involved, not really the abstract ideas behind it. I dont mean to be reductive, but I don’t think that this practice is rocket science: sitting face-to-face with another human who listens to you attentively and with concern/empathy is a powerful thing. It can go awry, but this is a powerful place to begin that has deep roots in our humanity and our cultural histories. Throwing it out seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water. As someone who feels they have benefitted tremendously from “therapy”, while also being someone who has been harmed by it, I think I have some insight into both sides of this. No one is saying it’s a magical fix-it solution. No one is saying what, specifically, it has to look like or what assumptions it has to operate under. If community-members came together to talk about what they want it to look like, and what assumptions they want it to operate under, within their communities, that would be a great start. For example: do service-providers need to be black in order not to reinforce racism within the therapy? Maybe. Do invididual black communities know more about that question than anyone else, with regards to their specific communitie? Of course. There is not going to be a one-size-fits all solution. And I dont think that people have be trained in universities—either in attentive listening skills or in political awareness—to be able to help others.