Thanks Sera and all. These are my thoughts and experiences in my locale. We have a very strong medical research and NAMI presence though in some places peers ran some of the MH Centers and once upon a time we had a regional peer coalition. What has happened would be a news story that would be picked up by multiple media outlets about someone in a crisis with an altered mental status with police and red lights flashing and the statement”we hope they get the treatment they need.” The deaths of urban folks in similar situations. would not be highlighted. But a year later, just in time for a NAMI event there would be a “I have found the light! news story about the wonders of medication. It would be the so called party line. There would be no allowance what was happening to cause a crisis or discussion of how professionals actually treat trauma, or the varigities of a person with high level of sensitivities, or what actually does constitute a religious and or spiritual experience, and most lacking of all the concept of total recovery and how that concept has been totally quashed by the systems involved. When given an actual pulpit it becomes recovery porn and not the beginning of an in-depth investigation of the folks behind the curtain who have manipulated the perspectives of so much of society. And because of those folks behind the curtain manipulations other folks have no idea of their presence and are taken in. When the snake oil salesmen are the only help in town one is exploited by trying to help oneself or others with his help because it’s the only show in town. One can’t be helped with trauma or whatever systemic ills if even the mental and verbal constructs are not allowed to see the light of day. How to remove the curtains? And this point , I would be happy for truth in advertising or lending type of legal recourses.