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I HAVE A NAME:
CYNTHIA ANN ROLSTON—USA, ILLINOIS
(“alias” as cidrols)—“Read it all!”
“YOU ARE HURTING ME!”
THE WORLD IS WATCHING YOUR MISTAKES!
PSYCHIATRIC HARM! THAT IS “YOU.”
Ya know what! I did not read your article as it is so off the mark! Mr. Luigi-Hernandez, GET A GRIP ON YOURSELF!
Coviviality, porosity and syncretism! GET ANOTHER LANGUAGE PLEASE! You will never be understood in the first place.
Secondly, THE WESTERN WORLD “IS” THE PROBLEM! At least W.H.O. has much more clearly defined ‘some’ of the problems!!! In fact, the Developing World has a much greater advantage to NOT MAKE THE MISTAKES THE WESTERN WORLD HAS!
What can YOU possibly be thinking?
Secrets need to go away! It’s all about social shame! Teenagers have a lot of misinformed peers, so it’s no surprise they have a harder time.
Environment crime. I’ll call it that! Suicide.
IT MAKES MY INSIDES TURN OUT!
I THINK I WILL THROW UP!
CAN YOU SEE IT, SEE IT NOW?
DOES EVERYBODY HAVE EYEGLASSES ON NOW?
FINALLY! GETTING CLOSER TO THE TRUTH!
WHEN WILL IT BE ENOUGH?
All these problems align with the adult brain that has been ‘toxified’ by these and other drugs. Supporting cells are all gone, so-to-speak. The adult brain must also be in a constant state of development, if you were daring enough to call it that! Heart attacks would be the end result for adults on these drugs. Heart attacks!!!
Look at chronic stress. What is going on with that? It’s an overloaded system reeking havoc on your brain. Likely to be more hormones circulating than can be handled. Be grateful for that??? Probably NOT!
That was the red flag.
Oh…one more comment…
Where are ALL the millions upon millions of psychiatric patients???
Geez…they are at home in their OWN BEDS!
One explanation for that: INSURANCE COMPANIES!
P.S. Tell Trump! (Huh…my ass! He has to ask “What’s a virus?)
Well, nobody seems to know where the psychiatric patients are in the first place! A much bigger problem is they don’t know where any of them are placed! Psychiatric patients are invisible to the world!
Try a bench at a park or something! My guess is the worst off are in nursing homes or outside on the streets.
Nobody knows what is wrong with these patients anyway! It is more likely they are in an overdose mode of treatment. It couldn’t be more true that their immune systems are on overload and their death won’t necessarily be accounted for properly due to any virus!
Let Pharma give all their money to the government so that WE CAN vote! It’s probably the ONLY good thing they have done!
Get rid of their corruption INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT. Fire the “real imbeciles” on the inside!
Pharma attitude crosses over into all areas of government and not just lobbying from the outside with money. They are also US government employees! That’s the big kicker!
We all know how Pharma is fake and deceptive. Government does nothing. Anybody and everybody takes their money to fund themselves. It’s beyond belief.
Much of the ‘cures’ Pharma is selling aren’t curing anything at all. We all know.
Maybe the world needs to stop thinking there’s a pill for everything?
It all upsets me so, so much!
Paula, you have been busy! Too bad for everyone that so much time is spent deciphering the truth or fiction. Research seems to be only statistical equation(s) to defend ideas. Lots of time is wasted. I say: “Change the method!”
Veterans are in trouble from the get-go! It’s not possible to transition from a non-violent to violent condition. Call it what you want but it’s just traumatic! No one escapes it.
Changing the “mentally ill” statement or name isn’t going to change “it.” Whatever it’s called, the stigma remains. It’s the culture we lead, so innately ingrained, that we can’t literally see.
We need to understand. Lots of things. To change. Keep trying. Open our eyes. Try again. KNOCK IT ALL WIDE-OPEN. START OVER.
OUTRAGEOUS! ENTIRELY OFF ITS ROCKER! DEPLORABLE!
LET ME WARN YOU!
THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT TECHNOLOGY CAPABLE OF SUCH A THING!
WHERE HAS EVERYBODY’S INTEGRITY GONE?
(Insel, prior NIMH! What have you done!?)
Anthony. Try not to let the words of others define you.
You are 37 and I’m thinking there is more good stuff ahead for you.
Psychiatry is in denial about the current ineffective standards of treatments, etc..
You are correct to see past psychiatry’s own disillusion! I wouldn’t call it a sham but would say it’s a damn shame!
How can you measure something that you don’t know what it is?
The methods in research have to change.
Furthermore, anti-psychotics ARE dangerous drugs.
DIABETES? Pure desperation on the part of those who have no validation for what they are treating!
It has just added to all the confusion.
I do not see the thrust of this success to be proactive anything.
The part that may be of benefit could just be an “accepting community.”
Let me quote from this article what we have forgot:
“There are no individual solutions for oppressed people.”
Think about that! It is 2020.
The workplace is broken. That’s clear. More purposeful jobs are needed. More money does not necessarily imply contentment nor eliminate stress. People who consider themselves poor are not necessarily unhappy or unbalanced in any fashion.
Define suicide! Ask why! Why do people suicide? What thoughts push them in that direction?
It’s all about unwritten social reasons.
ENVIRONMENT is everything!
Carefarms? Probably not for me. I am in the ‘rural’!
Thanks for keeping the light on for the public!
Urine samples may not be an initial stopper. It starts with one prescription. The first drug experience is what drives the street use.
The reality of the situation ends at the morgue. Users can’t see it.
To strongly believe anything industriously is powerful but dangerous. We know why. Yet, the mind constantly wanders and wonders. There’s room for change. Psychosis must pull from resources hidden from knowledge long forgotten and that which is dispersed with current thought yearned for or unspoken. People generally do not fully explain themselves to boot! It’s not so surprising that psychosis is possible given the right circumstances.
Talking ordinarily and comprehensively might be the best thing someone could do. Just talk. It’s the way anyone makes sense of the world and gets grounded. To be seen, we talk!
The world can be harsh. Diversified minds come from hard work and considering endless possibilities.
All my compassion to you! Honestly!
Pat has been through enough! It will take years to recover. I am sorry.
Outsiders are not aware. It’s a tuff battle.
Bravo to you!
THIS too is going on all over the place in the general population!
I recognize the special needs of veterans, but it parallels much of the experience of this Nation—drugs that are harmful, no emergent attention and inaccurate diagnosis to name a few. Prescribers can’t figure out what a drug effect is and call it something else, namely something wrong with YOU.
It might help to recognize that soldiers are much less congratulated and appreciated in the social context of which they come back home to these days. Social pressures can be a precipitating factor to suicide. It’s true for everyone.
Try art therapy for PTSD. I once read a good success rate on a project that focused on drawing faces.
Good luck. I’m glad you’re out there doing the work!
What desperately needs to be considered is that MEDICATIONS ARE MORE LIKELY EXACERBATING THE PROBLEMS OF TODAY!
And let me add…
We are just as confused—if even more—in this current ‘modern day’ as to what mental ‘illness,’ even mental ‘health,’ really is!!!
What can be learned from medical records of a past long gone?
The interpretation of a doctors mind at those times is my best guess.
There are no patients to ask.
I can hardly believe that they were trying to be kind! Society had many potently misaligned, cruel beliefs in those times. Many of those beliefs still hold true today guised under different ‘games’ we play. Not much has changed.
Yes. There are serious problems with diagnosis, DSM included. Horrific problems! Yet, it seems to NOT be amendable at this time.
On top of the lists of concerns just may be the social problems of our day. Societies are sick, some are not. Science has been explaining this well. We don’t hear, don’t know. The subconscious soots us well, so we think. (Not really).
Another thing to consider is how big, gigantic, is the system trying to be changed. The DSM is about money concerns to a larger degree. Be honest. Two words to begin explain this is “insurance companies.” Ultimately, changing the method of diagnosis (the DSM) would involve an enormous collaboration from a much wider viewpoint than imagined.
One last thought is that decisions for others, by others, is not going to hold strong all that well, ever. Ask the patient/client. Include them in on decisions.
Change is inevitable. The DSM is not the right road. Hard science will change that. Look ‘that’ direction. Keep trying.
Politics wants ‘data’ where there isn’t any.
No one’s looking at themselves and the bigger constructs of society such as beliefs held that are entirely wrong. Basically, society is sick itself, badly so, and increasingly so every year.
We are all afraid, shamed, so forth as a small example.
Moreover, why are we attacking people who go to the doctor like the mentally ill (health seekers)?
This must be an expression of contempt from New York Times toward anti-psychiatry!
After all, who are their advertisers? Where does the money flow?
Clearly, obituaries are ‘celebrations’ of the person who died.
Send the staff of New York Times back to school!
Thanks for your article and honesty.
More schooling may give you an advantage as employers seem to reason better from that vantage point. Yet, it’s expensive and not always necessary.
I think life is difficult for most people these days, because of bigger challenges from past generations not dealt with that get carried forward.
Believe in yourself. It’s the best you can do, the best for the world too.
I WANT THE WORLD TO UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF THIS ARTICLE!
SO MUCH TRUTH. BRAVO!
“Intellectual stagnation” is core to what is hindering everybody who’s anybody—client, researcher, clinicians, and more.
I am entirely disillusioned by much, if not all, of these areas of research! “Useless,” I would say. My experience says everything otherwise with lots of harmful effects, even near death experiences.
Unconscionable. That is the only word I can describe of their actions.
It would be good if psychiatric drugs were understood to have a ‘dependence’ on them, different from its current understanding. This would be a place to start!
Serotonin syndrome? A ‘discontinuation’?
After deinstitutionalization came Mental Health Care Centers. Have people just forgotten the mentally ill? I would say mostly yes!
There is no one watching what happens to the mentally ill. There is no attempt to survey or follow up with clients over the long haul to see if they are better or worse. How would anyone know?
Be certain that it is “family” that is hindered with this burden and it’s not possible for the most part. It’s complicated.
I think that professionals are awfully imaginative about their conclusions. Too many times so!
Yes! It is a misinformed society that makes it difficult for those with DSM labels. And so, how did it come to be this way? Well, there’s not an easy answer!
It seems to me that much of the misinformation is generated through psychology in all kinds of endless avenues possible! For this I could write a book!
Psychiatry, to me, is (and has been) misdirected from its inception (another book!). The truth is that they need to go back to school to call themselves something else. Psychiatry themselves are ridiculed by society for making disastrous treatment mistakes!!! They have never corrected themselves.
There needs to be a breakthrough through outside influences! There needs to be something new from someone else.
That’s a tough thing to swallow!
Regarding “Causes of Symptoms”:
The discovery of science is all about asking different questions. The purest source of the science we are talking about is the patient, their experience. The simplest answer is to actually ask the patient. Rather simple but true.
Yet, ‘simple’ does not satisfy the human intellect. We have to write hoards of documents to prove to ourselves and the world what we have discovered!
Feel the truth in this statement:
“What is causing many symptoms is the medication treatments themselves. There is a great overlapping of ‘similar symptoms’ from treatment and illness. It can’t be seen if the ‘right questions’ are not being imposed on the person with illness.”
All we have right now is a question. Not technology!
Ask me. I am a patient.
Regarding the Amanda Burrell story:
Being a high-achiever may have been what funneled the depression in the first place when confronted with the inability that brain injury comprises.
Being depressed (perhaps, humbled) may have been the ‘medicine’ that was needed.
Why are we not studying the restorative process of depression for it must hold some purpose in our lives?
The use of multiple drugs in treatment for most anything these days is common practice as an attempt to save lives, but I have to wonder who or what is to be saved?!
You ‘GO’ Amanda! You’ve done well! It also looks like you had some luck on your side—people who cared (of the medical type)!
I don’t have to read this!
If I could shut down the current mental health system and replace it with something, it would be trips into nature! Honestly. Environment is a key player in health—and more! “All is good in nature.” We know this without even second guessing it.
I appreciate the effort, but don’t see this as a reality.
Objective behavior is difficult if not impossible in any setting. People are driven by a lot of innate biology from birth into adulthood that contains bias, etc.. However, objectivity may be more obtainable in a diverse group of people. Perhaps?
Psychiatry needs to go back to school to study the brain some more. They do not know the CAUSE of the illnesses they are trying to treat.
Geeezzz! “Meaning in life” might be what drives people into the helping profession—the predominant reason, really! Or, better said, it would be the “lack of life meaning“ that makes people study psychology and the like.
Hmmmm. I kind of feel these researchers need only ask themselves about the meaning in life!
I feel primarily you are speaking of suicide ideation that is fostered by unrealistic, unspoken social expectations or rules which lead to daunting shame and a great sense of not belonging. In addition, you also are speaking of the chronic stress state that engulfs much of modern society and that adds to the shame of those feeling suicidal.
I would guess that it’s more about the shame experience that leads to the ultimate act of suicide. Furthermore, chronic stress (while it may also be present with shame) seems likely to have been what created much of the biology of many mental illnesses from inception. Shame feels bad. Stress alerts to fight something.
Shame, it seems, is what everyone in the world is afraid of—even ‘top dog’ officials. If you’ve fallen into the feeling of shame, you’ve lost your sense of power because someone else wanted some or misused theirs. Hold on. Believe in yourself.
When you have lost belief in yourself, your shame will overwhelm you.
The fight for the mentally ill is about dignifying ourselves. A belief. Hold on.
The “cognitive control” need of the client is likely to be wrong from the start, altogether wrong. Psychology created this as a problem predominantly of the mentally ill, but it really is a shared “quirk” of human thinking such as excessive negativity. CBT is not useful in therapy because it does not predominantly address a clients problem. So, what is? We do not fully know yet what is broken in our brains!
To the “Danny” comment:
Right! We may not be present much of the time. It is assumed that we are present in our ability for a constructive conversation between the persons in the room. Therapists never ask what is your present internal experience. They are guessing. It’s rather a dangerous way to have a discussion of any sort. Lots of inferences lead to bad conclusions, misconstrued interpretations. So, are we THERE, present to talk? Well, they NEVER ASK.
Normal may not ever be defined as there are billions of them!
I thought that too! If only a “normal.”
Individuals are wired differently by development and chance expressions, even with illnesses. It’s an overwhelming biological phenomenon of difference between individuals! And I have learned to accept that.
Do we really want to be normal? Probably not.
I like that: “A drug racket.” Very descriptive of the 5 minutes spent with a licensed person.
I would not, however, call it intentional. Maybe, more accurate would be “denial.”
History repeats. Right? But not always. There’s lots of room for something more promising.
What you are doing by not diagnosing is removing a name with no further scientific attempt of defining the cause. Getting rid of what doesn’t work is good, but I wouldn’t be so sure that there is enough science behind what you are trying to do. Yet, with current day theories, it seems the correct thing to do is the most humane thing to do even if all the answers aren’t available yet!
Asking more questions might help.
So, I ask everyone:
MENTAL ILLNESS. What is it?
It is NOT behavior.
(How about you?)
Psychiatrists alone are responsible for the state of their own affairs, a complete catastrophic mess. The same is true for all those in relation to psychiatry, following its lead. They alone are responsible for what they do.
I get tired of hearing about how complicated things are for psychiatry. They are the ones practicing medicine with no substantiated theory. How crazy is that?
Not many people enter a helping profession with bad intent, but they sure as heck will do that with bad judgement.
Has anyone ever considered that it IS a therapist’s job to fight for the underprivileged in the courts? To pursue changes in the laws?
Specifically, socialworkers? It’s part of their job definition. Whatever happen to their mission? Academia has misdirected them.
Even more, there are all types of therapists these days from all kinds of backgrounds wanting to just “talk about problems,” but none to help with wider pressing issues. Why is that?
No one WANTS to do that job. Fight for justice. There’s no money involved. And it’s not considered fun.
Nice to know some at Harvard University are trying to wake the world about psychiatry!
Yet, who is to blame? Pharma would be a good starting guess. Or doctors who are allowed the drugs, knowing them as a futile attempt toward treatment? Then again, maybe it’s just the general public wanting for a “Magic Bullet Cure.“
The disastrous scale of this message to
psychiatry is so massive. What really needs to happen won’t.
An entire world cannot begin to understand how much they have been harmed!
Psychiatry is not all bad, but it will not be them leading the way in the future. My experience as a client of many of them has been that they don’t seem to have a clue about what the drugs ”really” do, and it’s getting a bit late to fess up to these falsehoods and others.
What the world needs is NOT psychiatrists but scientists. It needs people who question WHY (all the time) about the biology of life.
Maybe a lot of motivation THESE DAYS is money. It’s a crisis in the worst way.
Hello! Saw your article and wanted to comment!
I have been treated by psychiatrists for much of my life and do not agree with their guesswork in terms of medication treatments. Clearly, they have no theory to justify their treatments.
If you were to look closer at the promising avenue that genes may provide for understanding mental disorders, you may be surprised to find a better possible diagnostic definition.
Psychiatry is horribly misguided, in a denial all to their own doing in a lot of realms of biology in general. The best science comes from neuroscientists as they are the ones leading the discoveries about the brain and its development, along with the impact of gene mutations, etc..
Answers ARE arising to the mystery of mental health. The door in is to follow the path of genes. There are many twists and turns, complications.
Could it just be that the human brain is constantly developing itself over-and-over again throughout life not just infancy or childhood! We don’t really know yet.
It’s looking like the brain can be altered (damaged) at many places and stages. That, in general, the illnesses that are undefinable today, will most likely be found to have many multiple causes. Very discouraging, I’m sure.
Keep asking why. Forget psychiatry. It’s been 60 years, even more. Go toward neuroscience. Biology. Newer science.
Thanks for your article! I ‘get’ your frustrations.