Friday, August 7, 2020

Comments by Bill Wells

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  • Don;t know if you are interested in the history, but I found a reading of Anton Boisen had merit. He would realize a drawing that also some context for family,. The electrics now of how people connect or not, can be part of the issue around social-technical systems. What does that mean with regards to “family”? and ability to sense some expressions of shared identity?

  • Yep, I went to see my physician uncle, and he would explain the facts of life to me that Saturday morning in the old Missouri Pacific Railroad Hospital in Little Rock. He concluded by giving me the encouragement to go and live like there was no tomorrow. Which in a few months, now the issue became mania, a way from very dark to that more akin to stepping into a crystal like river of cool water, with a thought process like a runaway train.
    The interesting facets of which you write about, challenge people with limited imaginations for a way to understand. With appropriate resources, a certain balance could be realized in due time.

    Might you elaborate further on where the margins are in a democracy of We, the People? What creates the margins in a digital and non-digitizing world? Where are the margins and then how can We, who have experienced much of what you write about impart honor and reverence into the space/place that might have been trashing us? There seems to be something missing from our keyboard? Our “engagements? Trying to pursue justice when the scales keep running away? Or perhaps were “fired”? Where is the design for access?

  • At times, my typing can miss-pell and I will pause and then google the word. The technology becomes an extension of being ready to fill out the thought, while not hearing my words. An hour earlier, I was checking on counselor or conselor.

    What i am trying to convey, and then I realized using the tablet, the laptop and so forth, has become an extension of failing to hear through our fingers for the beauty of spoken as well as a written language.

    This is different from dealing with emergent thoughts, wondering how or why did that expression come from.

    I am not quite sure if I understood “unselor” either, though the hint at hearing what was typed, as being “insulated” as if the coating on the wire (my neurons with a myelin sheath) keeps a thought from being understood.
    So, how are new words created and used. Think about the term “fake” or “fake news” along with the layers of cognitive dissonance just waiting for an insightful reporter(s) to raise the question or a good therapist? In a group setting? Or can even a psychiatrist play the role without medicating?

    One can also hear the term “thought leaders” in some organizational cultures, which going from the individual posts here, to that of a real presence, not being recorded as in a TV prone culture, suggests the the gap between pen, paper and a tablet poses some opportunities for cracking that which is all damned up.

    The Floods have yet happened, if the truths around restorative justice are to be realized. Thanks for helping to clarify, um-h, the chaos? The angst? the LOL abbreviated from the, the…. “Just say it out Loud, ….(the words that fill in the cloud in comics?)

  • How do you advance in the academy if one enjoys learning, if by the very nature of thinking differently about reality as a verb? Trying to realize clearer ways of understanding concepts that add to life or the reasons to value the nuanced patterns can be hidden more in the brush than one’s prevailing belief systems. With this said, can governments be problematic, or the act of governance be “causal”? Or are the elected as opposed to the career civil servants protected in a structural way such that stability is woven into the leadership, as human? How does one process the right to be civil in practice and in law, to the point of being aware of “The Lights”? Thanks for your encouragement!

  • Boans:
    If “The Law” works from orders, motions filed, etc, in a linear language for the organization of mind throughout the courts, then one can obtain the records. There is some reservation in affording the client access to read the records of what was said and being said. In being consistent one can eventually understand the roles being played and at some point, the injustice(s) that have befallen us begin to be added to the pan of “social justice”.

    Could there be further elaboration of “Cause One/Cause Two”? For if one publishes within the academy and attempts to realize research shaped by Stats when the better questions are often being suppressed or not understood, then how can an outcome favorable to the client be realized?

    In the historic language of “control charts”, the replacement language frames “process behavior charts”. But within the culture of therapy experienced where there are only two people in the room, the box of special cause often does not materialize in terms of common equity. One can be in the room but not at the table, so to speak. How then can the gifts of understanding thus be discovered in an emergent language from a combination of quantities/qualities without dismissing better levels of understanding? One can be killed quickly or slowly over one’s LIFE.

  • Now after thinking about the “splashdown” from the past weekend as i offered posts in synch to the event, the idea of inner and outer space still surfaces to this site’s connection.

    How the formatting is categorical and an imperative does not quite advance the creative nature that occurs when one’s realities are altered and then committed into the nightmarish treatment programs that never were funded in mental health. The whole of the program as defined by a politics of arrogance is an embarrassment to the inner space travel of our country and globe. Howie the Harp along with numerous others would give SAMSHA Hell for the stingy behavior that would unfold around Alternatives.

    In a recall of the past, I would teach in Helena under an emergency certification in classes in physical science, chemistry and physics. I had lost a job working in a bank and the challenge to start a career again was a challenge. While teaching and staying a day ahead, Pirsig would be read along with Bronkowski and Einstein. Star Trek would show up at the local theater and the students would be wondering about the Jedi. And I could not yet explain to them about Black Holes in space, film and Hollywood. Though to understand thermodynamics and balances were another thing in a town where cotton would be compressed for shipment by STEAM. To be able to reconcile different disciplines of knowledge with value and values for LIFE, as in The LIGHTS articulated seemingly were not settled enough to realize the type of career I would long for. Years would pass and the journey brought me into Kentucky, at times up in the Hills from the Flatlanders I would come to know.

    Surviving in Kentucky, I was able to hear Dr. Anthony speak before an annual conference. In a state culture that breeds race horses, there seems to be a problem with drugging of the beast and human. And while Recovery became popular within mental health culture, now I marvel with the experience of Reel Recovery in Trout Fishing, a program for Men and Women who find recovery from cancer in group process.

    More importantly, if we are serious about the Jedi in California Film or in the landscape of Kentucky (or parts of the globe and space), how can the dollars be created and allocated more equitably when the very financiers and elected ones communicate to the individual their insights have no value?

    Looking back further, but indicative for these times, there seems to have been an issue between Cardinal Bellarmine and Galileo discoveries of importance and thinking differently. And there was no Edward Tufte to make the story plausible in a visual computer language.

    In the past Sunday’s NYT, there were two articles of equal importance for these times in need of understanding. One was written by Adom Getachew, “The Slow Road to Real “Decolonization””. The other was written by a Damon Tweedy, “Racism That Lingers in Medical Schools”.

    In working on the Masters in the 80’s time was spent traveling to Boston University. And though Dr. Anthony was not known then, time would be spent trying just by chance to visit Elie Wiesel’s Office. Upon leaving the Theology School, the sun would be setting behind the MLK Doves of Peace Statue. Thus how can We, as C/S/X along with others, not a War in Space, but rather convey an ethics that honors LIFE, that is the gifts?

    Will a “Jedi” appear?

  • Bowen, Jim et al: Was able to view The Lobster this past weekend and have safely returned the item to the library. Reminded me of when I would have surgery, my friend would bring me some books, one about a lobster fisher woman, Linda Greenlaw, The Lobster Chronicles. In being stirred from the depths, the memory serves one to recall the efforts to borrow a local lobster trap for my wife from a local purveyor of fine seafood. I would realize perhaps the trap would be difficult to walk down the street with this weapon of war.

    To improve the story and learning, the question arises about your experience with Coiumbia University. Even though the experience might not have worked for you then, you might enjoy an exploration of how statistics can help with improving the operations, I think in inner space as well as outer space.

    In other words, how and to the extent does a critical thinker, learn to be open to a more nuanced way of knowing reality(s) through the senses? And then also understand the nature of the science and the arts, which can be a challenge to integrate with words, symbols ? If one’s thinking percolates differently from the norm of the class (an average in the middle of the bell curve) or individual, what happens when the conceptual becomes alive with an awakening of sorts, perhaps even outside the bias of the prevailing research being reviewed.

    One may never really realize who one is speaking with as Jean Houston shared her story from interaction with an elder, white haired man that also included Charlie McCarthy. See:

  • How is the broadcast talking about “loss of signal” compare to not being able to read the the communication in human interaction? W/O drugging into altered realities that seemingly be more difficult to experience than a space-walk? If the Broad Institute generates huge data that does not focus on one, then how can the program where Teams work like crazy, at what point will reconciliation begin to occur?

  • If Democracy is Institutionalized within Governments that institutionalize Institutions, what happens to the heart of the customer and mental health treatment providers when they “de-institutionalize the human? It would seem that if one is twittering about, that incredible precision would become even more important for the institutionalization of the forms and outcomes of the DSM made operational through an institutional way of relating within the field.

  • I am think the idea of “model” was being examined by the 80’s. SRI team of Jay Ogilvy and Peter Schwartz were introducing the idea of scenario planning. How could or would the customers along with the professionals for the next 40 years constantly be stuck in the framework of medical model, medical model, medical model, without ever questioning the idea of “model” . A model is just that a MODEL, not the reality(s) of what the individual may even be experiencing. What decade did the initial DSM emerge from group?

  • I noticed where Olivia de Havilland would die at 104 in Paris. She moved to the City of Light years ago. Which I wonder if in your explorations, if you are in some sense, discovering a certain consciousness of gentle joy in a world that seemingly is more connected than many sense? Explore also the Extension Service for insight into how to realize materials and potential gardening plot. They do have even a course of study where one becomes a Master Gardener. (Considering that mental hospitals got started and attempted to be self supporting, large scale gardening of produce was in part therapy, but perhaps more a way to afford food for the table). Big pharma somewhat dramatically altered the metabolism and thus, not so many trips into the sun when stays were longer.

  • Bowen et al:

    How are you? And how is your thinking today? In this hour?

    A viewing of “To Kill a Mockingbird” along with “The Snake Pit” or One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest might be worth some time. For if one also can access the trailers, keeping in mind the nature of film making then and now, will show the discrimination in making the films. The broader implications of pharma as a technology without understanding the impacts of the film industry itself, requires sensitive people to understand and make sense, as feelings in and beyond the imaginations.

    When I started city planning school at the University of Oklahoma, my Father would be in the last year of his life and the concern to take the Lithium the rest of my life was of concern. My thinking and the thought of a parent dying was an aspect all will face in time as well as learning the importance of grieving and grief. This was an aspect I did not understand at that time.

    And I would withdraw rather than fail the course on social planning. The term social did not make sense and the professor’s frame of reference then was “Towards a Social Theory of Planning”. Even now, when one hears social spoken in business houses, I wonder if they are hearing “socialism”. While working as a intern in the History of Science Collection, a student gave me a 4 page article, “The Social Thermodynamics of Ilya Prigogine”, which might be of interest. For if you have experienced being in the fire of war or the struggle of the idea of “chemical imbalances” when life is a continuously shifting of balance, then the whole of learning may need further discussions.

    In part from the arrogance experienced, I would transfer to a different university and once again I would take a Social Planning Class, where one would see the film of Saul Alinsky, famed community organizer from Chicago. Now, the context for learning was one of trying to understand the idea of planing for regions from a social ecological perspective.
    The idea of my past madness and the intellectual awakening trying to find new words, new concepts, and international friends proved to be an incredible learning experience about an ineffable way of knowing knowing [sic].

    To understand NOW, the nature of film, the industry, the South, at times may seem like another country to the rest of the world. The idea of Boo taking the unspoken role in an industry of image making then and now, begs to ask more questions. Or observations. Or conversations with our cats, dogs, neighbors, even with ourselves.

    Your insights are very important! And I must close by saying, “Thank you for the posting”. This is not the same to experience a direct conversation with other humans, without the technical mitigation of space, though now in order to connect within this network, perhaps offering some replies now and then might encourage learning, recovery and a way towards change in the practice of mental health care.

    Does this make sense for the reader(s)?

  • To give some context to your story, I turned to my book, Karsh Portfolio and once again gazed at the photography of Hemingway. Karsh would visit his home in Havana in 1957 and described him as a “…man of peculiar gentleness, the shyest man I ever photographed”. In leaving at the end of the session, Mrs. Karsh commented to Hemingway about the flowers disturbing the stone steps in the garden. Hemingway would respond with a “yes, but we can always replace the stones”. The context and thinking which most of these sites have a handle on, aggregates space filled with stories that convey injustices not understood in the administration, that is the verb inherent to a more cognitive life force that all strive to understand, particularly when we experience the nightmares of treatment.

    In reading your story, I am reminded of the time with Voc Rehab’s assistance and my doctors encouragement, to realize some art classes at the local university. In making the connections regarding climate change and South American Art, I would begin to ask more questions, such that in the Fall, the program informed me, I could not take any more art classes, that I asked too many questions.

    Then I went and made an application to the creative writing program, but they said, that my sample wasn’t creative enough. So, with Rehab’s support, I would apply to the Hemingway Writer’s Workshop in Piggott, Arkansas.

    I wonder what it would take for a group from Madinamerica to realize a workshop at said place, for in visiting the site in a town with one stop light, the Pheiffer-Hemingway has been preserved and conveys the ambiance of an era when the depression hit. The family’s wealth would have the home repainted over 40 times in an effort to try and get some dollars into the worker’s hands. The simple house and the space where Hemingway wrote, communicates much more than the artifacts.
    To stretch the imagination even further, know that the movie with Andy Griffith in “A Face in the Crowd” would be filmed in the swimming pool of the home just behind the Pheiffer Home.

    In pulling up the collective book of writings from that week in November, 2015 my stories relate some the emotions in trying to free up the past to the tell the stories of being committed. In pulling them out for this reply, the first story was titled “The Power of Egg”, which was about the incubator we had as children. This past Winter, the incubator would be presented to my young dental student in a box, that had a bright LED light inside that would be glowing as if it were the box discovered from the roots of the tree by Joseph Smith. And where was the student from, but Brigham Young. There are reasons for what happened and will happen if we do not speak up, truthfully.

    Yes, We Can document and write the stories. Though to convey the dynamics by which a Crowd has been injured along with the injustice from schemes being hatched requires the appropriate legal and political challenge in order to effect the change we know would be helpful.

    Keep asking the questions and sharing the answers from your research! And look into a creative writing workshop at the Pheiffer-Hemingway Home.

  • In the spoken language and perhaps written as well, has the essence been sucked out of the simplicity of the term, water and also the nerves firing off a degree of awareness? The word water only has 5 nice letters that are wet and refreshing. On the other hand, to hydrate and dehydrated (de-hydrated), re-hydrate and hydrate conveys some effort to practice the power of presence and knowledge. The clarity of understanding seems to stand on the merits of an economy of words. LOL, a catalyst for change in mental health treatment can be lost.

  • Now, in thinking about the intention of your post, can one also focus on posting to websites/ stories, to the exclusion or inclusion of the person? Just where is the mind resting, in this decision making process? And what is the the difference between better and new light? If one is trying to understand light’s structure?

  • Ooops… my typing can leave out the adjectives. Regarding the noise from the night air traffic, my sleep, that is the circadian rhythms of my being, were not very good. Emphasize NOT. If one performs risk assessments, how are these costs weighed into understanding the stressors, the factors that alter one’s realities?

    And when I reference the idea of enough voices, I am referring to my fellow peers that were involved within our organization. By protesting or hearing the stories that others had experienced, there seems to be a way that in speaking up, a difference can be realized, if not for oneself, then hopefully others.

  • AT what point will the citizenry who have been swallowed into mental health treatment be considered “veterans”? In relocating to Louisville, I was prescribed lithium and tegretol and briefly served in a civil service position with the city. At night one could hear the UPS planes coming and going so my sleep patterns were very good. As a result I would go the Humana’s psychiatrist for some type of relief. Guess what was prescribed? But Klonopin.

    As memory serves, I would be mowing the yard and while I was mindful to drink water, never the less there was a moment where I felt as if I was experiencing heat stroke. And as a result, I would decide to stop taking the Klonopin. That experience was one of the worst pains within my brain I had encountered. And as I would try to access the psychiatrist further, when in a session I asked to see what he had written, the doctor closed his book and proceeded to push me out of the office.

    Consulting with my other advocates, I would learn this psychiatrist did not have a good reputation. We began to challenge what was occurring. Enough voices might have prevailed to have the physician removed from the local treatment.

    Thus, I can not help but ask, “Is it not strange to think how one becomes a veteran of mental health treatment or a double veteran if one served in some military role, but has to endure treatments that seemingly dance around the issue of one discovering their wholeness of being a unique human?

    The story of medicating “normal”, when research is driven by standard deviation from a stats norm and upper and lower control ranges, suggests a way to realize meaning. Perhaps MIA might have an essay on the the nature by which Stats plays in research, but also an essay on the operational management style that seems to be even more injurious?

    Coming from the depths that one begins to discover the “how” and then the “why” for their life, I would say the story is of interest not just to the benzo experience, but also to the larger audiences. Questions begin to generate questions that leads back to the causalities.

  • Correction: the child was not a him but a her. A young girl. If there are trailers to films, which have been edited out, then check those out. For the prevailing image of the times, has to dealt with and as Hollywood knows, as well as celebrity culture, the industry manipulates the truth to where the scales of justice seemingly become more like a Ferris Wheel.

  • Sera: Once something is spoken, where to hear and comprehend what was or is being said, is difficult and requires a certain knowledge, the richest I believe for me came from the Alternatives, NARPA, NAMH, Civil Rights Activism. One of the strange experiences I have is to speak, in public at a podium or to a panel of “experts”. For at a gathering several years ago, at a conference in Portland, as I began to speak a fellow c/s/x came up from behind and encouraged me to “just breathe”. Often, the mood of meetings can hijack or drive a crowd to be more vocal, which can or cannot be a better outcome for the long haul. E-typing and sharing of information, has increased the sharing of enormous volumes of information; though to understand the structural aspects by which fouled air and attitudes are causing problems requires a better focus. For those who have ever been committed or treated against their will, we know and have experienced the brutality along with the deaths that I just have a hard time accepting. Create a great 4th and let us move forward.

    I heard this morning on the Black Gospel Station of how the Minister in living in Arkansas experienced the time the Brother found the lost White Child and was bringing him to the authorities. When the crowd saw the man carrying the child, they took up their weapons and the man would be killed running away. So, when one asks, what is your favorite movie and the response is “To Kill a Mockingbird”. Remember who would take the hit for the murder as Hollywood was discovering the power of communication through film and memory. Look at what has been edited out in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. Same story. Perhaps with better information, design, a change can be made not just from within but also for others….

  • My sister in law would invite my Mom to attend a NAMI meeting as I was needing somehow an outside reference for my Mother to understand what was happening. She would make the claim the madness was not her side of the family and my Father would soon pass informing me that I would need to take the medications the rest of my life. Emotionally, and after having served as a Congressional Intern to then Congressman David Pryor of Arkansas, the summer when Eagleton would be pulled off the ticket for his past history of ECT, there would seem to be some issues of social and justice, particularly when another well known Congressman would fall into the tidal basin. But to wind the story forward about 20 years, when the man on Prozac would realize a mass killing at the local newspaper, I along with an entire city would become traumatized. I would hear the words of hatred spewing from people;s mouths with “We ought to kill all of those crazies!” and they nearly have. So, as I became involved within mental health advocacy, learning of ATAK/MI (Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Illness), there would seemingly be this incredible gap between those who belonged to NAMI and those who aligned with the Mental Health Association. NAMI would advertise for a family member, the operative code words for a closed culture, that while I was married and a legitimate family member, when they turned me down for employment I began to grieve the situation through the appropriate paper work. NAMI members would reference the lawsuit which the legal challenge was not that. But with the assistance of P&A attorney, as I walked through the door for the morning of our discussion, the words spewed out of the director’s mouth, “We have done nothing wrong, and we are not going to pay a dime.” I would also attempt alternative dispute resolution, which brought the US Civil Rights Office up from Atlanta, but within the culture I do not think the process understood the subtleties of the civil war going on. As it turned out, later the NAMI director would marry the prison warden where now, medications would be as the institutionalized know to well, the pills play a major role in controlling the population. Today, there is no ATAK/MI; they were swallowed in a power play by a regional mental health provider in Lexington. But to understand the lack of truthful reporting or understanding just how ill a community, city, state or nation is at the present time, then one would have to comprehend the mind numbing stories being shared on these pages while not letting the stories fall in silence. We Have a LIFE and Lives that are MATTER.

  • If the language of law is evolving in an effort to address the problem(s), is there also a problem with legality of law itself? For what good/benefit is “worry”? True informed consent was never explained and a life has been spent attempting to get legal aid, ACLU, the state P&A, the local Bar, the elected, the financial community, the Rabbi and Priests, the Seminaries…. which in my mind, I was assuming too much. To have survived and wanting still to create and advance the conceptual with application is similar to a Jonah story. Do you realize the story(s) are being crafted in response to the creative river that runs though all LIFE?

  • Peter:
    Re: the random fluctuations. If the image is a recording at a flat field across the surface at a certain dimension and scale of relationship back to the recording platform and the “optics” of a computerized system, then is the noise occurring from a different scale of relationship, where the fluctuation or wave might be trying to “break through” into the field being observed? How much noise is being injected into the observation by the technology engineered and how curious are those who are posing the questions. The issue may not be a high degree of “uncertainty” but rather a different context that embraces the idea, “The End of Certainty”. Time to rethink the concept of “random”?

  • The concept I am trying to allude to though is difficult to communicate in typing as opposed to the space in which we could talk. And admittedly when one experiences the depression then the mania, to realize the shift or what gives rise to said experience requires one to self assess. If one doesn’t have the clarity to see beyond and come back to the present, then there will be some obstacles to resolve. If one is left with a “professional”, and there only two people in the room, who is more politically astute to the space for healing? There are only two pans or might there be three? Or maybe more, in the brevity of a session whereby one leaves with a prescription. I would not be hospitalized the first time, and the records show there was some consideration of that. Which I thought in recovering within the family home, the idea would be discussed. Being introduced to Lithium was a passive choice, in part pressure was being made to take the medicine. And soon, instead of the vibrancy of colors and thoughts pinging inside the brain, the thoughts would emerge with a different awareness that was concerned about weight gain, tremor and brittle hair. So, where are the scales of justice within the self? is the balance tension across the beam, the optic chiasma that connects the right and left hemisphere? Just where are the dendrons having their Congress to speak up or voting to remain silent? And how many actually understand the legal nature of their commitment process? My experience through a State Hospital would result in the pamphlet about rights though the document was not quite understood in terms of the Bill of Rights. And the trip into the Baptist Hospital seemed to be set up to operate on a hospital ward that was never designed for recovery. Or really conducive to a space where one can find the answers that would be unique to the self. The public defender assessed in a few minutes before the hearing, the ombudsman seemingly assessed, as all are reading the mind of the floor that Orval Faubus would create …. The Keys, so to speak that the patient would ask Dr. Welsing about are in part contextual to a law yet written that values the lives that matter though so often dismissed without an engaged hearing, not necessarily in a court of law. Hence, to become aware of the law working at some level to evolve for its own sake rulings in response to reconciling problems fails the customer. With or without a Miranda, the confusion seems to be a political experience of power dynamics that fails to take note of the customer.

  • In traveling to Harvard Square, I went into the bookstore and discovered Osmond’s Predicting the Past: Memos on the Enticing Universe of Possibilities. Inside the Intro would be reference to Kio Izumi, my teacher at Waterloo who had worked with Osmond. See:

    And from within the creative publications of the c/s/x, Gayle Bluebird would start up a publication, that featured the individual from Alabama. The story had some notes from Osmond and the site of his last career job.

    Seems there are many forces that can alter the physical and social space we are challenged to “recover” if not from the courts themselves.

  • I would hear Jamison speak in Louisville and wondered how and why of her position. Considering she was the child of military and moved around a great deal, perhaps being in a chain of command family, I can see where the race to run with the other scholars of the academy forces production, production, production. Unfortunately, as we are learning, the house of cards was not built so much to honor the maxim, “do no harm” but rather became a way to process intake.

    How do you know the range of the supplements to be taking? And then, the circadian rhythm in the course of the year?

    Thanks much!

  • Amazing! I would be placed on Lithium in 1976, shortly out of college. And would later be visiting in New Bedford, Mass where I acquired a book, Breaking the Chains: The Crusade of Dorothea Lynde Dix by Penny Coleman. I attempted to work off the Lithium while in grad school in the 80’s which I had not yet heard of David Oaks. In traveling via train to Waterloo, the time between trains afforded me enough space to see the Chagall windows in Chicago Art Institute Museum. The gestalt therapist who would work with me while at Waterloo realized that part of my healing would occur from touch, massage. And what better place to experience said gift, than within Hot Springs. Air conditioning along with perhaps trying to work faster in the South, where one could fry an egg on a car seat, really is counter productive to making decisions that understand energy, that is the light, a visual type of thinking that seemingly is sublime in the creative expressions. I would learn if the therapist or psychiatrist are quick to want to medicate, then I would have to start the search process all over.

  • see:

    After being introduced to our Liberation Day, courtesy of Mind Freedom, went to work within Kentucky’s advocacy efforts, even realizing a City Resolution about Bastille Day. With the other statues falling, do we send the piece back to France and create a new work? In visiting with some of the protesters I would attempt to engage around the concept of sovereign, as in their life, or the nature of the We, as in citizen. So, far the right hand was broken off with other smaller efforts to deface the piece. Louisville has had a strong hand surgeon and as such, I wonder if the doctors might craft an electronic hand to be attached, that becomes active when a citizen walks up to the work. Maybe the hand could play with a yo-yo or something to awaken the crowd to a sense of awe and wonder? Why allow Disney to attract the wait in line or the pill station to serve up, “wait in line” mentality. And if NARPA is not meeting in Portland this year, what are your suggestions for the in-between period?

  • Rosalee:

    I would offer a different frame of reference. First, the brain’s operation is an extraordinary political expression as the will to live focus fires off across many gaps. Hence, one is already in the fray.

    I would encourage you and others to pick an office, file for that office, and experience a period by which you attempt to offer up what you are about, I did this in Louisville, partially in response to the civil rights abuse I would receive from the Mayor, who was schooled in Law from the University of Indiana.

    I thought more about my simple platform and type of service I might offer to my community. The experience was unusual and I would not take any money for my campaign; hence I self financed. I would also be encouraged to quit the race by the NAMI member or others with wealth. But to start quitting was not in the cards. I strive to finish what I start. And so the vote at the end showed a better cpv (cost per vote). I averaged .25/vote, the Mayor spent 3.00/vote.
    So, if one is wanting to see the content of a person’s character emerge, and then across this protest, I would encourage those who wish to change the system to file for offices.

    Flood the ballots, with participants.

    The filing fees may not be much, and once on the form, either aligned with prevailing major parties or independents, there is a way, the systems must work. And to travel during that window, the circuit to engage the best you can, is a way of giving voice. The content of a person’s character will emerge.

    And a voice, of a human who can relate to all the citizenry seems to be a rarer ability when the law firms in Washington are pouring money into campaign races or wealthier people contribute to both sides to cover their interests. I have not made revenues and in fact from being involved with civil rights advocacy would be dismissed.

    In the more estranged manner, the security man for the Mayor would be 1) keeping me from entering the Mayor’s disability committee on which I was a member, and 2) would be chasing me down the street, screaming at me to “go away”, the city doesn’t want to have anything to do with me and so forth”. Equally, the banks in town would be telling me “the government takes care of the handicapped”. The problem has been trying to be settled enough to experience the joy of earning a living, when the believe systems as we discover on these pages shows a nightmare of tragic experiences as well as beautiful expressions of love and commitment to social justice. The essence is to not give up. One last comment to this post, is a fond memory I have of my teacher at Waterloo, Harry Coblentz who looked more like Karl Marx. When I would talk about training programs, he would stop me, and then in his modest, English toned voice, convey to me, that one trains a monkey, but educates a human being. Thus to go back to the UN references about labor, how many times do you see the references to training programs. The context sets in motion a sort of experience that does not welcome questions, which corrupted systems really seem to be having a problem with. Hope this helps….

  • Ms. Davidow:
    Power dynamics, when the context or use of this space, or to experience social space, when one can be negated, as from treatment, in mental health care or outside in the world. I began to realize, and wonder how this website really imparts information, that might be better formatted in a refereed journal or book. To have worked as a civil servant, one learns quickly, the We, is not to be spoken as such unless empowered through position to speak. My staff or our staff, are incredible terms that can show a willingness to be of service to the public. The We, that you engage,I wonder if this is a term of the Royal We should not be silent, when the voicing of the outcry under this heading may not understand much about power generation, technologies, grids, and yet, maybe people do. I do not know. To attempt to realize though a cohesive response, that pushes the envelop, regarding a change in how minds can realize a reason for the unique expression seems to warrant an inquiry into the space our thinking occupies.

  • See:


    I would realize a job teaching in Helena after my first depression manic experience. During that year, I would live in the attic bedroom of the oldest home built in the county. In reading the history of this home, the family migrated from England, through the Cumberland Gap, staying first above Louisville. From a student, whose Father was a civil engineer, I would be shown a study for the slack water harbor, which led me to ask questions about studies, plans.

    How would you wish to understand this story from the birth of civil rights? Or advancing technologies and automation of farming? Land Use? Rail transportation, Lumber Mills, Labor? Mental Health?

    To make the connections directly and indirectly, while the structure of even thinking is up for discussion, in scholarly as well as this newer form of sharing, might be of service. I am late to the game of advanced technologies, though I try to imagine and think how light really works, it’s source and if there might be a way to realize better economies that are respectful to and of Nature.

  • Surely… I will try.
    Systemic racism could be looked at from the perspective of systems, See Ludwig Bertalanffy. The whole being greater than the sum of the parts. If you embrace a civil rights discourse, that works through the categories of race, sex, creed, gender and disability, then look for the bias by the categories, the shaping of the built world financed by a closed financial community, then the discourse might become even more questioning of what are not just physical designs and enumerated totals. The reference to Davidoff, from a planner’s perspective appears on the surface to be just that … surface. Though someone(s) are having to craft policy to reflect the hopes, dreams and aspirations of populations within areas of a community.

    There is no question you can write about systemic racism. I would ask you what scale of relationship to the map are you talking about. 1:1, 1000:1 or 1:1000. Think in terms of your relationship to the ecology(s) you live in and ask how much have we grown? Or is a better word, developed?

    When I started in the planning profession, one would field public meetings, questions from the floor, (not typed in words, that seemingly may not carry the nuanced voice(s) of a crowd’s mood. Then came large scale relocation projects. Out came the index cards, to suppress, dampen the mood.

    To think communities and mental health, to alter economies and ways revenues are being generated, when if you use the term “Racism” what I hear are words charged that can have neuro-lingustic impacts creating lasting bias, to the detriment of any discussion about color (as an artist sees light). Right now there is much sawing, words in terms of race, and if one thinks color, and light, there is no White, but the manner by which people are interacting, is one of galvanized response to an oppressed, destructive reality that emerged from the brutality of a past shaped by many forces. Hence, are the questions more about the conditions of the nerves, within our bodies and then those across the networks realized through exchanges such as these? But have We or this discussion unpacked for me, you or others a way into “seeing” more deeply.

    If you are referencing Baltimore, you might wish to examine Johns Hopkins, if one can embrace the idea we are shifting into a knowledge production economy. Except, the nature of psychiatry seems to have been damaging the more sensitive people I would meet in my journey.

  • When I ventured into a city planning graduate program at OU, the nature of systems thinking would be introduced in a Future’s course. And LOL the class would travel to New Orleans, many of whom woul hear this man

    In the pages I have read there might be some reference to economics, though are you talking about quantitative or qualitative expression of the supply and demand curves?

    How much have We as in the Royal We or Us, as a team, or the I, the more hidden inner eye, to absorb and have the sense to shape a world whereby a human can at least be at the boardroom table or lead the corporation or country? There is a difference in how the South and the rest of the country have practiced their brand of religion, not always pretty. And to understand the nature of no-money at times and the evolution of what would be financed, such as public works Kirkbride plans just a few years ago, now requires a more informed presence to who, what, why and where the change(s) will occur from innovative thinking and intentional actions.

  • I would make a copy of this document I think last summer while in Art School. I think my question is how to move this document, into one that is taking steps, at this level? When we had our non-profit, as small as it was, trying to realize a budget in terms of “carve outs”, state funding, but then the more important ingredient was our membership. A fellow member would visit more clubhouses, I think signing up different members. Which if they didn’t have a dollar, she gave them the membership. To go to the State Capitol and convey we had a dues paying membership would place us on par with other organizations. To have managed a non-profit and develop with vision was difficult when being “sweated down” by the culture in which the organization operated. Who or what body has been your fundraiser or/ is the body within this body, able to sift through those who are posting, to network and ask around. As you clearly suggested, there is a funder out there. Go and read On the Laps of Gods to get a glimpse at how the attorney(s) networked to raise the funds in 1911 when there was no money. To understand how the funds were being raised to tackle the state and prevent executions, has not materialized yet for us, because the team has not yet been formed and recruited.

  • “…to mention people of colour killed instantly”. Are you speaking generally or specifically? I can only offer what I’ve learned to date from my journey. And from my work in the civil rights movement in Louisville and working within the Justice Resource Center, I would learn of this behavior. In a fascianting manner though, our board of Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Illness would have a Board Member who would be in the city jail for a couple of years before P&A intervened. He had worked for McDonald;s, was of Colour and also a licensed preacher. How does one covey a better insight into this human lack of appropriate engagement? Having taught in the Delta, See James Cone’s lecture where he visited Yale Divinity School. In the Cross and the Lynching Tree, Cone would articulate Lynching Tree as the Cross in their Culture. Within this book or another, he being from Bearden, Arkansas where his family and Church Family conveyed to him the uniqueness of his life, he would say the “madhouse” was to be feared more. At that time and to understand the configuration of the Kirkbride plans, were horrific. On the flip of this observation, what happens or can we challenge our understanding to realize a law that moves with us, to create the sort of space by which even the UN and that legal language begins to be heard and understood within the countries that are involved? To be fake and talk “Law and Order” while gassing and shooting rubber bullets just doesn’t realize a path towards justice nor respect for the possibilities and probabilities of collaborating together. Managing a government’s laws one would think would also reach to our experience, by which we could begin to make sense not just for ourselves, but also others. If not, bodies of law that becomes alive thereby embracing the concept of what is Tikkun Olam?

  • Let me ask again, what sort of monies, talents, are we talking about to line up for the legal challenge envisioned. Scope it out? (If law is a weighing against prevailing law, then to wait for a ruling, how can prevailing belief systems be prepared to receive this gift of a trial? So many of us have forfeited not as our choice, the opportunities to experience our dreams and hopes (I believe) because of those who are in or were in power failed and failed miserably.

  • I am not sure if “madness” at least from the arts world is a response to world, or rather a new, better way to communicate a visual language stimulated by the joy inherent to creative expressions. The difficult challenge may be historical in context to understand what the logic was of a different era, the technologies and how life was understand before there were street lamps, Freud, Jung, whatever. To understand even in a rudimentary way, of how dollars, that is money is created and destroyed, to go from gold, to paper, to digital along with the value and values by which a community values or devalues each other is of interest to this discussion. I wonder the steps by which any “self” begins to discover the uniqueness of being, within a body, whereby the product, that is mind, is cared for through more (I think) of a mobius curves of looping by which thinking is nested within layers of complexities? Thereby the myth of balance, to sense that at ease while transitioning from the extremes of “far from equilibrium” can be understood, explained and conveyed better without meds, though the meds might have a presence. As we who have taken or been forces to take the meds know, there can be nuances of how our thinking is operating. Though to work off of them before these websites or stronger inter-state and intra-state groups that carry this knowledge of how and why to explore this position, might be inaccessible. Thoughts, responses, and application to Evan? The world of understanding is swirling around Evan and through Evan, as we ask the questions and pose strategies of how to intervene not just in this life, but LIFE. (The politics regardless of wealth in Evan’s family can be understood, as he is in a precarious vessel that need not be tossed at the whims of others or laws….) Thoughts?

  • Do you think the U.S. Bill of Rights is stronger or weaker than the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms? For when I was struggling in that period of being the International Student in Canada and not yet versed or tuned to the U.S. Bill of Rights, while challenging the Grad Pub on Waterloo’s Campus to be accessible with their new renovation, I would discover a certain stuffiness in the engineering students. They resented being challenged nor could they see then that some day Stephen Hawking would be teaching on their campus. How do we begin to get the thinking to enfranchise what many have disenfranchised in silence? I reckon we just might need to go beyond the prevailing belief systems. What do you think? (Iin checking the reference to the UN the document regarding work does not seem to entertain the idea of a citizen with a disability as one being capable of being an entrepreneur… that is to be an employer as Citizen Human.

  • Ah-h-h…. I remember fondly my teacher would have us look at the code of ethics of the Am. Planning Association, the Canadian Institute of Planners, as well as the Code of Professional Architects. In some ways, one might say there is a range of professionalism that runs on this page. To begin to organize, at what point does it shift from “amateur” to “professional”? Where the terms of amateur and professional stick in my mind, the most, was in college when I would invite the Dr. Uncle to our Carol Service patterned after KIng’s College of England. His response, “Amateurs…… in a deflating sense of the word, as if the degree of expertise and joy of learning were not being orchestrated higher than one normally experiences. To make this story even more interesting, our choir would go on to tour Europe (we raised the funds) as a whole. And as I watched over the years, I have been pleased to say we, as amateurs still gather every 4 years…. One member would go to sing with Pavarotti, who once was an amateur. I am not sure if I answered your question for some professionals while being licensed in the eyes of the law, may not really have the requisite skills to engage us. One last note, we discovered the 501.c3 non-profit we created in Kentucky would even be taken more seriously if there was a nominal dues. So, for a $1.00 we became card carrying members of ATAK/MI (Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Illness). Great Question!

  • Irit: I would be an international student at Waterloo in the early 80’s from Little Rock. Grandfather was from Stratford and I was quite a fan of Yousef Karsh. IN trying to work off the meds while in school, the madness would return and then my Dr. Uncle demanded that I go back on the meds, thereby over-ruling the medical community at Kitchener. To understand the laws that were on the books that worked to keep “defectives” from immigrating required authorizing letters. To have returned and finished the degree in Planning from Waterloo about where I would focus on Labor, was a challenge. But if one thinks just a little bit about the Perimeter Institute funded by the owners of the Blackberry, then do we come closer to understanding a certain type of law, that affords the human to be in Nature? The man-made laws are not equal to the the principles by which we have been challenged to understand while attempting to recover from the horrific nature of the treatments. To go beyond the rule of the law, to work in the space that is comfortable to our own clock is essential. Do you sense a healthier rhythm, by which we can advocate? And how does our “professional”, that is the we/us advance a certain awareness that detects before we are injured/hurt further?

  • On being committed, to treatment in the State Hospital, one would be given the patient’s rights booklet. How does one know and understand “rights” that can be challenged, and then the “Rights” as articulated within and by the procedural language of LAW. Being taken to court, handcuffed to another, then see the public defender for 5 minutes prior to the Hearing, surely was bizarre. And then once finished, to be put down in the holding cell beneath courthouse, for transport by to the hospital, begs to realize intervention. But no one did…..This raises questions also, to be able to obtain copies of commitment orders, hearings, and then the hospital records. To measure the content of the human’s character against the integrity of a law that seems to be dead, just doesn’t cut it. To get this particular case to land, then how does one scale down the beast to understand that which is visible and then the invisible events that silenced the individual and family members. The challenge is to ask the questions that will crack the “safe”. New York and Los Angeles might become healthier then, if not the various organizations that have leased space within the cash flow/creation.

  • In genetics, we would colonize the agar petri plates with bacteria. In the use of words to covey actions and processes, can one expect to “de-colonize”, replace that word if indeed one is taught to count the number of colonies under the scope. What gives rise to the rapid multiplication? A certain design, that did not know of capitalism? Yet, to practice and understand, create the space by which various cultures discover their being, then what are we missing beside a language, a communication of understanding?

  • In thinking about the referenced article, how are rural experiences different from urban when if one experiences the rumor impinging on the rights of privacy? Is there a statute of limitations when violations of rights has occurred? If the individual has to become strong enough to pursue justice to endure the process to find an attorney to correct an incredibly corrupt system, then what data/information is enough to shift the policy maker/administrative thinking? And if time passes, and one becomes more settled, quieter, then to be taken before a judge for commitment, becomes less probable. The ability to survive and function is at risk if one is dumped on the streets without decent housing. And if one is talking about “the system”, which most of the time, people talk about an open or closed “system” with contempt, then to grasp and understand the whole becomes difficult. More so, without realizing the system boundaries may be opening and closing. The ability to understand the gaze of the inner eye simultaneously at different scales of relationships is almost impossible. Thus, to what extent does law advance understanding with reconciliation of problems if the practice in balanced rulings is contextually being corrupted by “leaders” who show no respect for citizen as human? Also, where is a discussion of Vocational Rehab programs working effectively in favor of their clients to create meaningful jobs/economies? (not just for themselves, but in the collaborative sense? ) Will look to further insights. Tks for asserting the necessity for rights.

  • Utterly unscientific? The diagnosis? The practice as a verb of one mind firing neurons, another mind firing neurons? And a diagnosis? Where is the Prognosis? For in trying to understand that science works to disprove everything, ? ?? then by what method are you coming to your conclusions? In my ignorance, I would not really comprehend the difference in a psychiatrist role as opposed to a psychologist role by the mid 70’s. In the the couple of psych courses i would have in college, we would be studying Skinner and fish and the social psych course would be talking about something I really would not understand until later as in trying to understand deviant behavior and deviance? And what effect and affect does a label, a noun play in our language? A noun as a verb, within a political science context of a therapist office? Role of the tech?

    When one has a mind running away with itself, the story is not too different from the nursery rhyme about a fork, spoon and knife…. Somehow in a trip to UC and staying in the International House I would acquire a book by Nicholas Christakis, Death Foretold, which has a chapter on The Self-fulfilling Prophecy. Hence, by committing to Mad in America, do we stay Mad in America? At America? Or at what point, do we or can we transform ourselves, the us-selves into a better self? Relaxed in America? Healing in America? For if you enter into the space mad, or not, to enter in as discover to learn and grow, then how can one reflect the mind of the other, to understand the uniqueness of self, as identity? singular or in some even more mystical fashion, be fed by the degree of engaged discourse from this page? this site?

  • From my experience, the star is within one, though in a celebrity culture, even the image and the genuflecting to the orders of law, would even make Holmes and Brandeis probably turn over in their grave. If one is in a public hospital versus the private, the chains of command can be operating more with degrees of records and rights, being explicit or not. The finality of death or daily dying in terms of knowing how to resist, better or worse? For in being committed to the University Hospital in Louisville after a Prozac mass shooting, in group art therapy, then as I started pounding on the table, strike, strike, strike…. the whole class joined in…. LOL, what happens and what can occur to improve is within the voices of this page. So, if you know someone, the connections back to NYC are present….. just keep thinking, creating and asking…. (this is not begging). One has to examine the nature of real estate, values, the symbol and the iconic placement of wealth generators….. in which can be nested the pharma, the professional fees and economies that are grinding up people….. more later… Am told Truth sets one free!

  • Is there a point, a transitional period, where one begins to understand, the elusive is no longer far down the road, rather to be more fully present while realizing the “in” begins to be those special qualities, which all humans have. Just sometimes some folks are already, being gentle by nature, were awakening to a different way of thinking. Can be frightening to others (and perhaps even self), when the moments of ahh and awe occur…?

  • LOL, LOL, LOL, from coming to know Jack Hillerich linked to baseball and the movie, Field of Dreams, I was able to attend a Deming Conference in St. Louis in ’92. Along with the conference binder, “Out of the Crisis”, “The New Economics” and Nancy Mann’s, “The Keys to Excellence” were most helpful. Deming would even respond to my letters with further suggestions. See the website of the non-profit in that one can access some videos and/or seminars. When I asked a question regarding application of his method to a mental hospital. He paused, then responded, “Once a day, you either chart the patient as or -. I sat down and thought, he was right for to apply that method to the human inside the institution; any space or human can improve. What are the qualities by which care/healing be improved? Look for his 14 pts and the video, The Red Bead Experiment. I hope these references will help, will look forward to further discourse.

  • By any chance did you ever explore the writings of W. Edwards Deming? If an organization’s management is or can be part of the problem, then if through a certain practice, the bell curve becomes more tightly woven, just in time operates, and the work experience may be firing off the neurons that can place people at risks. But say if you are new to the counseling experience, or to find a place one can communicate with honesty, has the productivity of becoming more efficient created a hardened surface in the organization. If one brings to sessions “the knots”, then how to help relax such that one can learn to untie and resolve issues that can still be surfacing from years past?

  • Do you sense the brain is in essence a political entity, such that closely held “knots” would give rise to the poetics of Laing? As the candidates run for office and become elected, the role of dollars begins to influence hoped for outcomes. The field is made to be narrow, and yet the dimensions of choice, thoughtfully processed may not be that of equals. For the tragedies of our community has yet to realize a memorial day. But we have been there. The question now might be one of how to route out, to recover and that is possible, to create the knowledge that can impact the the whole of the practice? Where is the economic action?

  • In mulling over the essay when you referenced how the British think about a genetic flaw, to what degree does a monarchy influence a type of thinking that surrounds the Queen Bee, so to speak. To implement a different program in a public or private hospital can have degrees of subtle difference. The Rights booklet would be a given in a public hospital, the stent in the Baptist Hospital seemingly was on a ward, that was not even designed in a way that afforded one some space. The psychiatrist wanted would use thorazine, which I would refuse as I wanted my release. Which had to given as I became more settled after the initial 3 days. However, the next time I would ask to be placed in the State Hospital, since the family was intent on the commitment process. Experiencing that, one would meet the public defender 5 minutes before the hearing. With the extent of variation, chaos, management, rules of law, how does one or can one expect future generations to navigate their way through this nightmare? To complete or fill out one’s story, one can acquire one’s records. Though then the organization may insist you need a 3rd party to sign off for fear of liability. To even “replay” the game, with the recording of words and charts, legal documents, and police reports, how can any system begin to create optimal conditions for healing. My tablet conveys time for optimizing its operational system. In contrast mental health practices seem to want to realize a maximum treatment without understanding the complexities internal and external to the people and organization involved. Any thoughts about this? Or a better way to arrive? (Can’t say make mental health in America Great Again…. )

  • From a visit to the University of Chicago around 2000, Nicholas Christakis’s book Death Foretold: Prophecy and Prognosis would be acquired from Seminary Bookstore. The troubling aspect of trying to reconcile a past where gradations of abuse would be experienced, can be articulated in therapy but I think usually not. If even considered, do the treating physicians prescribe without unpacking with words the issues that for a child or an adult, can be a source of confusion for the unconscious circuits? It seems that to realize a greater degree of clarity in the written, spoken and flow of thinking, requires engaged conversation at some point. How do we, who have experienced the darkest along with the complimentary of the brightest ah-ah’s be held, for a moment longer in the “dis” of the order? There seems to be a certain way one hears or thinking challenged through healing interventions. The meds were painful too have endured, the attitudes of others who have no clue, may be even more painful to endure. Though they have a right to a different form of thought. The moment though does come to a close. And a way to unpack and pack the moment with insightful language, insights, clues to readings that might help remain essential. In that way, maybe We, as a people begin to discover the unique nature of the life given in context with the broader LIFE being created around us and through us..?

  • The outcomes for whom? The Human or the Institutes of Technology? Any knowledge of what drives the Broad Institute on the MIT campus? How does one create breathing space for anyone, students & professors to ask questions of each other without being told, to soon for lack of deep listening, or how to listen to what is attempting to be asked, without thinking of an Oedipus sort of destructive mentality that often emerges in therapy, if one challenges the ruler in the sessions? Or are the “Orders” in the challenge to become a knowledge producing economy undermining authentic health? And care?

  • I am not sure this will help, though to read, study and learn all that one can so that when your moment comes, then be able to assist with what will be appropriate. I posted a short response with the hope that maybe the diversity can be realized. I would not have to be hospitalized the first time though came close. Due to a traffic accident and a leg cast I would pretty much be immobilized. We would read Fieve’s book Moodswing at the suggestion of the psychiatrist. While others, the Dean at Hendrix College would suggest Ruell Howell and Anton Boisen, a pioneer in pastoral counseling at the Chicago Theological Seminary. Friends at the bookstore would suggest Castanada’s writing and Pirsig’s book, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Riding. Our issues seems to be about understanding understanding as Humphrey Osmond (a psychiatrist) would write about. And I would discover a book, while at Waterloo, The Quest for Mind by Howard Gardner, the Harvard Educator. He used a Balzac’s quote in the epigraph for writing about Piaget, Levi Strauss and the Structuralist Movement.

    One experience to type and share to your post, another to hear and engage in the manner of giving a voice to receive the music inherent to what speech inside and outside the head is doing. Life seems to have an abundance of energy being created while fuel to be understood in a garden.

    Parting, a glance at England’s early city planner, Ebenezer Howard, The Garden City …

  • With some reservation first, was the entry into this post your or the editor’s creation. Ironically, suicide is a sign to the Left and Support is to the Right, which might rule out going straight ahead in creating one’s path. A question might be at what scale of relationship to the world within as ecology of mind (Bateson) or outwardly as an ecologist relating to the universe, a cosmologist? Having enjoyed a microscope and not so much a telescope, the idea of learning how to see and talk about death, even suicide brings back images of those trying to destroy themselves in the hospital and then members of my family outside of the hospital setting (prescribed medications and/or alcohol at some times in our family history). A better question might be with regards to learning how to discern and read a situation with caution to one’s own bias in the search of learning how to be a better physician/human. Some of the keys may also be aligned with the ineffable, which typing on a site is not the same as to have an audio, in person exchange about this suicide. To process ethics in a post structural belief system (time is lapsing here) when time is a dimension in Art, may need some work by myself with materials. Writing, thinking on and in this topic from my perspective needs careful thinking. And that reflexivity sometimes has eluded me, and yet the reasons discovered much later in life have enhanced the way I can understand a little bit of what you write about. Thank you for moving this topic into the discussion.

  • Is there some confusion in organizational management for the long and short term where applied research versus pure theoretical research is attempted? To identify who is the customer and then to honor a voice trying to communicate what might be problem when too often the nuanced side effects are not understood for the short and long term, I would think needs some calling out. Just pull up the Broad Institute and see how they work at generating large scale research in meta analysis while discouraging the customer’s voice at the table. Ironically, those who experience cancer and aids might have a better chance to have their voice be realized. So what is the difference between being human and being human? Amazing who chairs the organizations? The structure of monetizing knowledge production? Even if the brain is not technology!

  • Interesting article. As a child when my Mother would say to me on those breakfast days where it seemed I was slow in awakening, “Can’t get your motor started”. Years later I would experience my first manic episode while becoming depressed and then manic working in a small state chartered bank in Conway, Arkansas. After being fired, and now at the breakfast table, in an argument between my parents, my Mother would say in anger, “Well, it certainly was not on my side of the family”. Since I had majored in Biology at Hendrix College and taken a genetics course, I would wonder which side of the DNA was the “it” hiding. For if I could find out, then share with others, the story inherent to the experience, could We become better?

    Later, when our group of Kentucky mental health customers would attend Alternatives in LA, I was scrambling to try and find a way to the Salk Institute to meet with Francis Crick. That did not happen, but I would write a letter to him and his assistant wrote back suggesting I read his his book, The Astonishing Hypothesis:The Search for the Soul. And she would add how touched Crick was that I would want to visit. Later in Scientific American, there would be the painting by Magritte opposite the Crick Article. The artist did not show in the mirror what one would have seen his face, which in a wry manner really says a lot about facing and knowing the self. In his book, the sign would hang in Crick’s Lab, Conscious NOW, with the NOW being flipped in white as opposed to the black. I think it would have been better to move Conscious into the middle in order to convey more of the Butterfly effect.

    Fast forward, in starting art classes on the Spalding Campus in Louisville, James Watson would speak before an audience at the Brown Auditorium. And as I would read more, I would learn that Watson’s son would experience being labelled with the bipolar trait and that Watson was somewhat considered a eugenicist.

    To understand the scale the our issues, one only has to look at the beginning of horse racing in Lexington, where the patrons of the track would also fund Cold Harbor Research Institute. The nightmare of the Narcotics Farm, while understanding the nature of breeding human and animal livestock seems to still be an issue within our humanity. Prisons and mental hospitals seem to concentrate and avoid solving the issues. And the tragic nature of medical practice (not the art), the prison would be used to try and realize a perfect pill for a perfect soldier as the government would be feeding the prisoners with LSD, Heroin and so forth while really not understanding outside observation just doesn’t play the jazz. Thus fathom the design of life and operation of the racing industry amidst the Covid19 virus, the opening day of the Kentucky Derby has now been moved to September 5.

    In Lexington and nearby Georgetown, I would attend my first statewide customer of mental health services conference. And I would be disgusted by the caseworkers keeping us on the bus once arrived at the campus for fear that we might wonder off at the Georgetown College Campus. The most amazing experience was to witness an auditorium full of mental health customers sit still and focused on Esso Lette, the guest speaker from Denver.

    In the following years in Lexington, we would increasingly realize stronger conferences, our first art shows (not art therapy shows) being supported by the Ky Arts Council with small grants. Somehow in the world of having printing work performed by a union print shop, our flyer would read, “Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Health”. Time had to be spent going back to the printer to correct the verbiage to read “Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Illness”. Eventually, the legitimate non-profit, with a 501.c3 classification was undermined later in the struggle to have state dollars when the consumer and regional mental health agency in Lexington obtained the funds that had been supporting ATAK/MI. This was in the era about when the Opioids were just taking off in the state.

    But what can one expect in a culture where the beasts and humans would be drugged? And gamed on? The Federal Prison, with Narcotics Farm over the entrance would be shut down during Nixon’s administration, but I don’t believe we have yet had an ADAPT Meeting, a Come to Jesus Moment, an atonement for what the hell is going on in the gaming nature of finance in our country.

    Mother’s Day would become a Law, Nixon would make Father’s Day a Law while Parent’s Day is still a resolution signed by Clinton.

    Yo understand how or why one would decide not to have children when the labeling and forced medication experience is problematic to understanding the nature of life, requires some sort of reparations? But more importantly, how can We, an extraordinary people find recognition for who and what was sacrificed in the name of medical science.

    There is no excuse for the way we have been mistreated!

  • Artists can be more than lone wolves, depending on the extent one wishes to collaborate or go solo. The idea of creating art is constantly up for discussion as to what Art might be. And to go beyond prevailing belief systems, can be a challenge if one’s efforts are dismissed. I am curious in a similar way, though to wrestle with the thinking, a certain way of discovering my and even our reality, to the extent my intuitive skills can be realized in a visual or performance language as Art. I would ask the readers at what point, or if you have ever considered yourself(s) as Art in motion? I am not sure if i/We really chooses our path, when one has been forced into the experience of a mental hospital or the process to realize how an organizational structure can embrace diversity as unity. Some happened to land here on a raft, later a boat, the imagery being quite relevant when one ponders the meaning of freight on board, the process by which transport needs to be energized along with democracy as a measure of distilling better truths.

  • RE: your comment about leading, following, getting the hell out of the way in a world now where the information flow can short out the neural synapses. So, with a technology that is being pushed to be more flexible in a world that may not understand huge groups can network seems to be part of the problem if not the solution. In realizing the march on Washington, there was one former football player who would provide the time and motion studies to know approximately the expense of time aligned with deployment.

  • I would experience relaxation therapy where the group would lay out on mats right after breakfast in the Arkansas State Hospital. Being there under a forced commitment, never quite got to the reason for the explosive nature of the physical punishment popped into my head from a parent out of control as a child. And a Dr. Uncle would be the first treating physician, his son a few years ago dying from the overdose of psychiatric meds, his daughter being put away in a nursing home shortly after his death. So, how do doctor’s learn the power of their ordering ways and then the powers inherent to the laws that are supposed to guarantee rights?

    The mindfulness state to work and be in can be a wonderful way to ease into the spaces that still offers some chance for change, hope while understanding the depths at which thinking becomes mindful to the mind full?

  • Have you read the Jimmy Piersall Story? To watch the film? To understand the difference between being in or out of the game? Learning how and why that typing is not the same as speaking? Thinking about thinking with reflexivity? The degree and extent this page is held in place by some form of thermodynamics as theory applied through sophisticated levels of engineering and government agencies? How and why can one ask questions here but be denied enrollment in educational programs “for asking too many questions?”

  • Jon: If one has not published, but experienced a parent’s form of punishment of anger out of control, bruises to other siblings, forced decisions that undermine one’s own ability to make decisions, then how can you embrace an academy that has its own gatekeepers? Even the autonomous nature of this technology begins to shape one’s thinking when to really be more intuitive about the Art of LIFE requires an awareness that just may not surface from empiricism.

  • Oops – the idea is to mark + or – in the observation from the outside of the patient, or what level of the system is being analyzed. Then by totaling up the daily reports, one realizes a particular pattern or range of highs and lows . There is a norm, within the stats of being inside the upper control limit and lower in terms of reading the data with the deviance from the norm (understand all being language of Statistical Analysis). One does not tamper with the system, which having experienced the altered state and labelled that required my own research and learning, there seems to be a certain way the mind establishes a better integration of its clock. The circadian rhythm is important. And then there seems to be some sort of clock or tempo of the operation on the floor or different areas of a treating facility, a doctor’s office. But how can we share and teach/learn about life so that we can create the revenues and enjoy seeing improvements from our efforts? Is there a way to realize some collaborative efforts and teams?

  • Studies, depending on the qualities and focus of the study are also laced with truths. Is the knowledge created changing so fast, that to find and realize a particular platform to rest our weary fingers (as extensions of thinking) creating answers? Seems to me that one would need to understand the nature of research, which to generate theory or to create tests against the null hypothesis is difficult. When I would ask Dr. Deming at a conference on continuous improvement, “Had he worked with a mental hospital?” he took a moment and then replied to the audience of over 400 attendees in his wonderful insightful way to teaching. He replied “You either mark them or – once a day as to how they are they are feeling”, that is improvement. And then as I sat down I realized he was right and yet the amount of variation which I didn’t quite understand at that time as it relates to systems and layers of an organization, such as a public and private hospitals I had experienced, is an incredible entity to manage with improvements. Understanding the potential for improvement for the customer, he would later refer me to a woman in Nashville who at that time worked with HCA and Vanderbilt, later to transfer to the MD Anderson Clinic.

  • I do not understand how Dr. Vaughan within the Columbia University’s Culture would not have perceived the impacts better for this meeting. In my stint of being involved in our organizing efforts in Kentucky to realize a viable 501.c3 required a lot of meetings. I would hear W. Edwards Deming in St. Louis speak about continuous improvement and he would respond to my letters offering to be of assistance. This man would write Out of the Crisis and applied stats to continuous improvement. He would teach within Columbia University’s Business School. He also realized some research with schizophrenia and other mental illnesses. The strangeness in interaction though with the prevailing belief systems held by the state and community level was one of politics/power. For it was strange to come to know the individual who was the first woman adjunct General who also received the Deming training. I would want to know who is setting the tone for healing, recovery, innovation where the customer is really heard? To be attacking and not focusing on the ideas and how to improve the systems can waste people’s talents. Where does finance that meets the customer, where our ability to create value, manage debt and money and ability to be better humans are honored?

  • Mr. Kendall:
    You didn’t go into how the social contract failed, when Lieberman violated the sovereign nature of the individual space? This idea would shift power from a king, to that of a people. And if one is talking about public figures, what citizen is not a public figure? In learning of of Lee and Dershowitz appearing before the Hearings, I would write a letter to Dr. Lee with copy to the student newspaper. The letter to Lee was returned not opened, for the address was not routed to the School of Psychiatry but the medical school. I would locate her address and sent my note along with some other information. I had written to Dershowitz after reading Chutzpah trying to realize an attorney who would assist with my unusual encounter with the elected and business community in Louisville, Ky. Perhaps we do not have enough Chutzpah? But someone sure is lying about health care, particularly mental health when we experience social distancing at the hands people like Lieberman.

  • Richard, Malcolm and Readers:

    First, in reading your story about being from New Zealand, I have to recall and share with you the time I would receive a postcard from New Zealand by my former mentor at Waterloo University. The card was typical of the way we would communicate, years after I had come totally undone after being forced to go back on the medications by my Uncle Dr. who was doing the best he could with a mind, just short of the 6 month period for better healing withdrawing. I have to literally be “persona non gratis” and upon return would challenge the operations to experience the full access to campus, that is housing.

    First, To honor your son’s request I think will require constant learning and how to engage on and off the posted ways we have to know.

    To try to enrich the healing space in which anyone can function better requires some adjustments to the nature of our economies. Pharma being big plays a funny dance. To be truthful as much as we could, when medicated is difficult for the complexities of conscious and unconsciousness thoughts in play is an incredible space to guide while being more aware. Hence, the very aggregating of being “the mentally ill”, like Rae Unzicker would voice, would be a word she would wish banished. Instead, what happens to frequently, is the experience of being meds or not, the social discrimination at the level of the mind operating is and will be a bizarre experience.

    Secondly, to honor your son’s request will require a different language than what is actually being spoken now as attached to thoughts and misplaced words spewing from leadership that has no clue. Period.

    This challenge is extraordinarily difficult to type and find words, that may or may not resonate with people who have been there, are doing “that” but yet still trying to figure out how to “pivot” as some might suggest. But I think when you mention prison, having even helped to audit our state prison section that housed citizens mental illness and also through prison ministry, I still question to what I am learning or can do. Or not, when many times I would ask for assistance with attempting to realize a business and/or run for political office. There are so many ways to vest time, energy and go beyond recovery, a lasting state of mind.

    Thus, to honor your son’s request, I will continue to advocate and from time to time, try to write a letter, give a call, share an idea while honoring those whose shoulders I stand on. This past Fall, I would finish my MFA program at the School of Art In Chicago. In attending I would challenge the Voc Rehab program for support which was a course in and of itself. And after the first two terms the surprise of having Prostate Cancer became another learning experience. Though right now, the way I coped with that issue you can see in an exhibit in the Bendix Building in LA Through sharing testimony and learning, as I have experienced through our networks in Kentucky and beyond, there seems to be a way forward.

    I thank you and Richard for the sharing of story.

    But the more fascinating aspect of the movement through and out of medicalized existence began to occur when I attempted to apply to Union College in Cincinnati where I would meet Dr. Kevin Sharpe who served as the Chaplain at the University of Auckland. He would write a small book “From Science to an Adequate Mythology” having taught mathematics. And for awhile, he would edit the newspaper for John Templeton’s publication that attempted to address an integration of Science and Religion.

  • Without becoming entangled in the struggle of data against data through the language of degrees of standard deviation, there was a time when I would be practicing social justice from within the mental health culture of the c/s/x movement in Kentucky. My interests are more about discovering a way to improve my self as well as the organization in which I would be apart of. This conceptual stance took on new meaning when I would travel to St. Louis to hear W. Edwards Deming speak about continuous improvement. Hence, if quality of an operation whether it be a classroom or the individual, even a hospital or another corporation, the idea is such that the probabilities and possibilities can be improved once an understanding for process happens. I would stand up at this meeting and ask if had ever worked with a mental hospital. He not only had performed that work but some of his writing was about treating schizophrenia. When he provided a simple answer I would sit down and think yes, he was correct but what about all of the variables that are occurring in the administration of a hospital. Everyone can improve the systems as well as be more tuned to the operation of the complexities of his or her body/mind/spirit. Though when having been abused, it takes an incredible effort to persist on the path where the operations are offering meds, counseling, etc, etc. The challenge is incredible and to discover what gives rise to better happiness takes awhile. Perhaps by sharing a few words, a change might be easier. I will end by saying that at that time, even though I would receive the same training as staff in the government who monitored the qualities of the programming, there would seem to be a slight level of power politics, in that one would begin to realize even the term, “the mentally ill” would become a heavy. There might be a fear of if the person is sounding Ok, and I think I am ok, then where is the “insanity”. Do you see the trap so to speak? And so, we go around and around having difficulty trying to get out of the vicious war. Hope this will help. I was amazed to discover Bob’s book about the Gods…. a story of an area in Arkansas where I would once teach for a year and would begin to hear the stories of what happened in 1914. The prejudice by race is one thing, to get down to the level of mind, and beware? This where one realizes those who are judging can not nor do they have the language within their experience of what being a c/s/x is like. So, then the questions must be asked of where to focus the energy one has stored from within? Be well! And thanks, for the article!