Sunday, January 24, 2021

Comments by Bill Wells

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  • The American Psychological Association (APA) revised Robert’s Rule’s of Order. To understand the importance for deliberative thinking in the creation of laws, and the speed at which the rule making body attempts to process, while being manipulated by vested interests, then how do our citizens and non-citizens create a better sense for governance? The operations as we witnessed is not as secure as one would like to think, though the structure is symbolic and important space to experience. To forge healing words or words that inflame, seems to be the challenge our adolescent country faces.

  • Pretty Abstract?

    For me, the greater, perhaps even the heighented state of “awakening” from the depression slow dive that occurred over months, where upon after consultation with the literal family doctor, one Saturday morning in the summer of ’76, explanations were given by the Dr. along with the admonition “to go out and live like there was no tomorrow”.

    About four months laters, the mania experience was being realized. These concepts of how our thinking can awaken, at different speeds, is indeed a window into the abstraction of the construct by which we begin to define ourselves. So many times, when the phrase is made, “this is not rocket science”, when in the presence of the computing and analog world that makes the engagement vis-i-vis a machine, then we begin to become aware of multiple abstractions, shifts in thinking and even an emergent language for the age that is being framed as socio-technical systems.

    Regarding the Alternatives Conference, to have witnessed was an experience that literally afforded me 1) a ballroom to meet a whole bunch of people just like me and 2) a visit to Indepence Hall and the Liberty Bell. Indepence Hall was shut down due to the brief feud between a former neighbor, (about a block and 1/2) Bill Clinton and Newt Gingerich. Perhaps because I saw democracy, time would be spent the past week sending a letter to the Congressman whose office is not far from Independence Hall in an effort to realize a more profound future, regardless of whatever labels and traumatic experiences I have encounterd at the local, state and national level.

    So with regards to today, and that of the events that contributed to the recent organizational chaos of our House of Democracy, then understand the importance of how we heal while sttriving to rise again, again and again through our representative forms of democracy.
    The workings of Alternatives as well as the visits to Brown’s Office have all been a way of trying to communicate and channel our individual and collected concerns into our goverance of self-determination.

    The systems that are working to afford the citizenry a way to awaken surely were inspired this day, perhaps as much by the voice of the young poet from Los Angeles.

    Finally in a bit of irony, out of the 70’s/80’s an article would appear in the American Planning Association Journal that conveyed a Requiem for Large Scale Planning Models. Douglas Lee might have been the author. The point, and perhaps an affirmation for the issue to “medical model” language I’ve beeen hearing for 50 years, is that policy makers began to advance the term of scenario planning. Along with a more resilent management style. Though as we know, the whole experience of being processed into “recovery” is what I would have to call as pretty abstract to an outsider. Learning how to write, speak and create a bridge language seems to be for me a challenge from the heart to your heart as well as others who might choose to ponder and meditate. One thing for certain, our work is cut out for us.

    Finally, can you please elaborate on your vision for how to cleanse the thinking aligned with medical models? For to be frank about it, the past, the trauma still creeps in, and people will say to me, “You are living in the past”. When in fact, part of what Jenny has given us (along with many others) is a piece of our history; a history that is liberation in more ways than I can count.

    Thank you for your request, please advise if this did not clarify while also raising some more points.

  • Political leaders? Or Politicized operational systems? And how to recover and access the rocketry when it blows up due to a culture that suppressed the early warning signals in our culture? In essence, can one use the words, “indirect murder”? Or what insubordination means in the personnel file?

  • In trying to realize my homework, I would ask the relevance of an analysis that can integrate the subjective with the objective organiztional and individual thinking, as in being typed or spoken, or in front of an academic crowd. For the concerns being voiced, where is the prognosis of how information beind revealed on this site, could be or is being picked up and shared around the world?
    Do elaborate more on what constitutes “objective criteria” in the bought space of the thinking ethical levels in and outside the WH? To have perceived for a need to wear a “White Coat” into a meeting, that had not been approved by those involved, was not representative of the flag of surrender, but rather an early warning signal to the complexities of our failure to communicate?

  • Did you consider Trump dangerous from a distance through any media or casino/real estate perspective? Or just the context by which he was making decisions over his life? And if you are saying the “known data” or just saying potentially, “know thy data”, do you “get it”? And then how to realize a difference between a digitizing world and the analog as experienced within cultures?

  • Thanks Jim, Jenny for opening us up to our history. Ironcially, as I shared the the post from George Ebert in the from the newspaper in the librrary, with friends who work for SAIC, then the post surfaced how George’s life had ended. And yet, by shariing these stories, regardless with one occuppied Brown’s Office, the brutality of how one can be disregarded for thinking differently remains important. And George’s story and George perhaps is kept alive in the spirit of profound advocacy.

    From the grant ATAK/Mi (Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Againt Mental Illness) the printer would switch the term to Mental Health in our handbills to read “Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Health”.

    So what are we fighting?

    When so many say, “Well, I am not political?” (That statement, as in my writing is by nature a reflection of a politic from within.) Then there is also, the time our organziaiton would assist with evaluations of the mental hospitals around the state. In one of the site visits to Western State Hospital in Bowling Green I thought I could learn something about the operation or visit with other patients by going to the cafeteria for breakfast prior to our day’s work.

    When I went up to the serving line to ask for something else, the security guard would be watching and came up and said to me, “That you know you are not supposed to have more” or something to that effect. In terms of security then and now with camera eyes everywhere or the potential by govenrment to monitor those deemed to be on their lists, how do we create healthier curiosity and economies by which we are part of the answers?

    In our exist interview, with hosptial staff, the shame of what happend imparted testimony to the brutality of the care in a hospital operating from a different era.

  • Oldhead et al: First, from having been shaped quite early in part by history, I wonder about your phrase “Get’s It”. For often I have been stopped and others ask me, “What is the It”. In attending Little Rock Central High, time was spent taking a journlism class, and working the camera as a hobby in photography was developing. Charles Lance, the teacher would ask us when we were working on “Letters to the Editor” about signing one’s name to the letter.

    The other time I would hear clearly the context of “He gets it” was in a brief visit with the head of Ducks Unlimited. Those who love and appreciate the design of Nature, know the value of a cricket, whether in terms o validating, echoing, or even pondering how much power is there in being in the moment requires from each of us. There is something I believe quite fascinating in how ecologies are interwoven to the extent we can learn to not repeat in the present what we have and are learning from the past.

    There is no question is my mind, the value for documenting history; seemingly a good historian sifts out for what really happened in the past, to bring the story to the surface. If there is a concern or comittment to write the history of this unique movement, what or how were the actors communicating in code or in a way the power differential was and can be challenged, such that the awakening can occur to what happened and is happening?

    Writing, posting, blogging, youtubing…. are impacting the message that seemingly needs to be conserved? Or preserved? For one becomes aware of the extent of the injustices that are occurring when one begins to understand the case by case in the context of the broader issues.

    I think, I understand the cocnerns voiced about Alternatives and the political struggles which I would witness at that level. The question in part I believe, now and even then as in the past, is how did and can any movement create a viable currency? The monetization by which MIA operates or the Madness Network News effected the change? Then and Now?

    If our thinking is becoming better in knowing the self, then how is the context held that recognizes the value and values for being different in a civil manner?

    Will look forward to your reply…. And thanks, even if you do not reply. Silence is important, also in the movement of thinking.

  • We need to know our history! From the Alternatives and NARPA Conferences, insight would be gained into the unique way of working towards developing our politics. By comparison, would you have a way to realize the history that was emerging in the 49 other states? For just because we live in other locations, does not mean an injustice is not happening. I recall meeting Howie-the-Harp, Sally Zinman, and Jay Mahler while also learning of Leonard Frank if not countless others who impacted our lives in Kentucky. In viewing the marquee, and in part because of the way I would experience “the treatment”, the medicating is not limited to the psychiatrists.

    Several years ago I would acquire a publication from the American Enterprise Institute where data had been graphed. I could not understand how they could map the population in hospitals as being “inmates”. And yet now, perhaps even more so, the amount of misinformation creates more barriers. For within the last four years time would be spent driving over to Arkansas to participate in a discussion by people who were trying to intervene in the execution of several who been labeled as “the mentally ill”. And so, in going by the Governor’s Office, the response would be the realization of being escorted out the State Capitol by Security.

    Do we have a collective library, a repsository for the papers, booklets, papers that will show the struggle and then how can the protests help transform our self-determination into a healthier understanding for what life means to being human? And then my last question, “Would you know the name of the Art Museum in San Francisco?

  • Should the title of the paper been “Surviving While Being Made Negligible”? To understand the structure of the biologies also needs integration with the ecologies by which imaginations sift out the truth or the various a truths. Then variation and purest chance imaginable that challenges the prevailing logic can be articulated to the hears and eyes and senses that are ready. Experiments and studies without bias becomes a basis for an awakening to what the medical establishment has been doing for years. Perhaps a question posed to those surveyed might have been, “Have you ever left a psyciatrist office without being offered or given a prescription?” Is the sound and presence of the madness tied into the “Ka-Ching, Ka-Ching” of the cash register to advance supply and demand while ignoring health”? Oh, excuse me, the slide the card, insert the chip, as the genderless of technologies valueless or valuemore our lives? Do those around you begin to come forward in love or are they stirred up to hate? And if so, where does that emotion emerge in these studies?

    Is the madness is in the murders where family and agents liscened to keep laws and order have a fealty to the orders rather than the principles articulated in the employment papers. Yet, with only a right side and left side of the brain (as “normally thought”, the actions still seem to be giving the orders that fail to detox. The purpose of LIFE seems to be made into sausage through an anticiapted revenue streams for the malignments of power.

    Can you map the energy expended in solving this equation of inequality?

  • Re: Negative Comments click to article about medications, “Why do psychiatric patients stop antipsychotic medication? A systematic review of reasons for non-adherence to medication in patients with serious mental illness” would the insights gained be different if first the question were from a position of “How….”. The “Why” often triggers a defensive response to the inquistion that begins to occur, in terms of power, if not positional authority. II wonder how MIT for example along with Harvard, drives the research at the Broad Institute while discouraging the customers a more direct role in the annual or biannual conference that discusses the nature of their research looking for the cause?

  • Ayurdhi:
    or Dr. Dhar, which is your preference from the emergent culture of Mad in America and “Mad in America” but perhaps beyond the political borders?

    Could you explore the idea of beliefs held? (And while I would like to say belief systems, the very idea of a system has advanced in a way that faciliates learning along with being too easy to codify in terms of open or closed to the detriment of a richer reality that we struggle to understand.

    When you write about challenging “psychiatry’s fundamental ideal about normality” the door into the expression being realized visually in the article can be overwhelming in part because of the range of rich beliefs held with the gods so to speak. If one enters into the vast refereed papers, the stats and correlations, etc. then what, if the emerging situation is being framed in part by the technologies that broadcast the story, but then an understanding for the hi and low of an engineered world driven often by “more” rather than better.

    What does the term “mass psychogenic illness” impart to a mind(s) trying to understand a speed of learning by which people are coming to know an evolving culture being challenged? To hold a thought, to release others and still to let go as we work through these experiences suggest to ask the question, if indeed the individuals who travel into these altered states will not eventually emerge as the teachers? Seemingly in a like manner, have been given “a collar” so to speak, that is a labe”, I thought perhaps there might be a way to enter my madness or the experience, with a purpose to come back and attempt to explain what was experienced.

    However, the results whether medicated or not along with a way of coping, seemingly has been dismissed, until I began to focus and shift more towards the Arts. I can’t help but think that in framing the study of adolescents, if there if violence in the framing that excluded a question of the adults impacted within and beyond the families. How could one(s) transform the space to sift the meaning, not that something is being learned now? Or in the NOW?

  • If you look at Simon’s article calling out Stanford https://www.madinamerica.com/2020/12/stanford-algorithm-fails-deliver-appropriate-healthcare/ and Davidow’s article about Jill Biden https://www.madinamerica.com/2020/12/no-jill-biden-not-called-doctor-no-one/ to reference the article about the Academy’s impact by viewing the disciplines contributing to an economy https://www.amacad.org/humanities-indicators/higher-education/racialethnic-distribution-advanced-degrees-humanities, the chances of shiftiing the thinking to realize a healthier community become plain when one views the emergent stories in context to the heart and airport noise https://www.studyfinds.org/airplane-noise-night-heart-problems/.

    For we moved to Louisville, Ky in ’89 when UPS was expanding with their hub that triggered the largest relocation of homes along with the destruction of small cities in the US at this time. I would travel to D.C. to meet with the staff of the FAA being that we would hear the noise at night. Klonopin would be prescribed to address the sleep issues. (And later I would quit cold turkey that resulted in the most painful headache one could imagine.)

    To think the local university students are afforded tuition reduction and nighttime employment if they work at UPS might feed into the research study at the New York Academy of Science that was about Cancer, Circadian Rhythm and Light https://www.nyas.org/ebriefings/circadian-disruption-and-cancer/ suggests some signifant issues for research that requires precision and orietation towards scholarship if one values LIFE of a community.

    Truly our challenge is difficult, perhaps more so in a city that headquarters Humana, Horse Racing and Distillieries for everyone generally enjoys the party at the moment. But if We are ignoring the early warning signals, the canaries in the Mine and Minds, then who are we kidding?

    How can one or one plus two or more change the course of humanity as the local politics would silence questioning while the local banker would tell me the government takes care of the handicapped while dismissing me with the question, “Have you saved the world yet?”. First, I was having to understand the plight of those impacted by forces that shaped our mental health and then to understand the strange world of politics that would take me into Janet Reno’s Office. Enough said?

  • Sera:
    Do you have a problem with power imbalances? To confront the injustice? The concerns being addressed seemingly are focused on the quantity rather the qualities by which power, empowerment can be realized as a challenge to be understood? Or released through empowering work relationships. Being this is work (which may need to be rexamined conceptually), when do the scales move or do they in a balanced imaginary world (if there is a way to recongize a shift in understanding/learning that will afford common ground)?

  • To type an argument or to hear an argument is more than semantics. Typing is not a conversation, as we have known but a different form of word search, to attempt to find a word that even fits the silence of a keyboard that may not be so beautiful as a typewritter. In someways, to assume “We all have an array ….” to me identifies a false assumption. Many may not or do not have an array, in a world that assumes everyone thrives on connecting into the machine. Texting, typing, zooming, etc. is not the same as having a front porch conversation where one really gets to converse. To talk about power, as in political or social, or to underand what matter is made of as a structural challenge is mind boggling and very difficult for any conversation.

    But I think to say “You should …..” can be just misleading. Each one of us is challenged to forge our way in a world that can be brutal, though questionable more so about the extent and recognition for “Rights”.

    Thank you for taking the time to comment. I would rather engage in person, as to learn how to speak in a forum, which I have realized at times, is physically becoming maybe more on the edge. What I have wondered and increasingly so, is how so many think they can get away with murder? For in the collective since, we die one at at time, though our situations can be occurring directly as well as indirectly form issues that evolve from abuse. The brains along with the beutiful thinking by which we attempt recovery need a better way to affirm we are human, no different from the “higher levels”…

    Further to understand the role of education as perceived and being articulated by which a motto might be aspired to, to begin to learn about the power of thinking, even thinking about thinking can be a real challenge.

    Too, if language itself is concretized, when accessibilty is yet to be chisled out of the reality(s) held that keep certain people from entering the temples of exchange (assumming we are entering a knowledge based economy), then at what point or how does one discover the markets by which applied thinking and conceptual are received and validated?

    Could the thinking be skewed to think that psychistrists are the only ones prescribing psychiatric medcines? Would you rather just pull a directory of names from a shelve or google that suggests presence without reference or clue to who might have stronger qualities for working in certain realms?

    As regards to the process of being incarcerated against our will, to experience that process, there can be many players. To go before the judge, who may not be an LLD, withou to much comprehension of medicine, the tragic nature of meeting a public defender for 5 minutes before a hearing when one is medicated to where the words do not come easily is a bit of a problem that needs to be addressed.

    With reference to the aunts and uncles and so on, though perhaps strange, imagine what is means for a child to experience their relatives first as Uncles and Aunts, as an address of respect or should you do away with that reference? For to grow from being a child who experiences cousins with parents who practiced in the medical community were more than a “Dr.”. With an education or not?

  • How come there is not more discussion on the role Voc Rehab role in our skewed recovery? For if one becomes labelled, the ability to mask one’s behavior that still can surface, can be a challenge to guide. And if one can not become familiar with how to monetize or be monetized, then to stand for what is ethical may costs a great deal (like a career, a marriage, a role by which social justice becomes a fringe item, when a greater agitator is needed for the content of the emergence of character.

  • You would not believe the trouble of trying to get a haircut in downtown Louisville. I didn’t grow bald but the language used when I would request a cease and desist, woud just keep coming. Perhaps one might experience a blood letting again? There are certain rules that go along with the Barbers and then there were the rules that were broken in the recent social protests. Too much broken glass and hardening of attitudes in search of the how and why for a more peaceful city.

  • Interesting Post, though if I had been in your training class in 2012, the observation would be made and the question raised regarding the use of the word, “Trainer”. In the past the term was used while studying labor in a Master’s Program and my mentor would correct me, to offer that one educates a human being, that one the other hand, one trains monkees. Trying to learn the nomenclature of a different profession requires a great deal of effort if one is wanting to really enter the conversation, either in writing, speaking or just being present to the discourse. Within the family experience, there were several aunts and uncles. From your logic, would you suggest all prefixes be tossed? For in understanding a healthy conversation, that embraces the other(s) while carrying on, may not be as tied to the institutions that sanction with diplomas, but rather the degree(s) of intimacy by which one gaines insight into LIFE. Please elaborate more on how and why one “should” rather than “shall” follow your philosophy as oppossed to another?

  • To honor Julie’s Spirit during Hanukka seems the right thing to light! First, there is, even when one is placed on a Disability Income, the citizen is a citzen is citizen. However, within the language of disability, the citizen begins to learn of the costs of political boundaries, more even the space that remains designed for able-bodied, able-minded, when I think as we study, LIFE written as a verb of ebbs and flows, is quite intelligent. Even currency is expanded or contracted in an effort to stay attached to the production or ordering/disordering. Pay, whether it be to a single employee, a organization or level of government, seemingly remains the more conflicted story, for there are many situations where people have taken advantage of a program to walk off with the money, while inflating, double billing even the healthcare. See the story of Vencor and note! How does one realize audits that reveal, before a company or non-profit collapses? If we are serious about soical justice, then how do We create the movement? Whether receiving disabiliity income, no income, or creating the currency by which justice for all can be realized? see: https://www.bmartin.cc/dissent/documents/health/vencor_fraud.html and https://www.encyclopedia.com/books/politics-and-business-magazines/vencor-inc

  • In 1977, I would discover Elie Wiesel in Conversation With Harry James Cargas. At one point, Wiesel discusses the concept of the opposite of love is not hate, but indiffernce. The passage goes on to relate how in teaching in a NYC grade school, the students were to debate on the idea that Eichmann should be executed. One defense tactice stated the charges as outlined were incorrect, “Six million Jews were not killed. Only four million were.” As he goes on to relate the story, “This was a Christian, denominational school. INDIFFERENCE!

    Hence, to have been challenged to speak up throughout my life, about the injustice that runs rampant in the systems of care? In politics? If one witnesses the injustice of even losing one life beyond their own in the course of mental health care, then how will our conversation begin to convey the serious nature of what is happening?

  • If a website, or a group, and individual who has experienced the injustice of this bizarre care, along with the broader history of cover-up, then does one advance satire, (I had to look at Satire’s website to understand the nature of the reporting), do you think when the issue is one life lost to injustice, is Satire an appropriate vehicle to convey to the broader public the nature of our problem? As a standard of comparison, do you think Simon Wisenthal would have tried to use satire? Do you think Ruby Bridges would use satire? How can I/We expect a robust challenge for social justice, if the image becomes entangled with an Onion? Tears of the past are enough!

  • Micah et al: Re: “From these traits, Gipps argues that we can understand schizophrenia enactively. For example, if ego boundaries are created through autopoiesis, then it can help us understand how harmful emotional experiences and confusing bodily experiences, as in emotionally and physically intrusive early life situations, can contribute to a disturbed ego boundary:

    “For example, in the complex weave of emotional interactions between parent and teenager, the question of who is to blame for what is a difficult conversation, of ‘who started it,’ of what is and is not reasonable, will constantly be under tacit (and sometimes explicit) negotiation.”
    In situations where clear communication and clear understandings of self and other are absent, a disorganized ego boundary may result.”

    As I just finished re-reading the article again, the insights are more profound that one would “normally” realize. For in working on the MFA in Chicago in the summer of 2018, I went into Target to shop and noticed a stand for Koval Bourbon sampling. Three ladies were there and we got to visiting. And so, as we figured out where each were from, she from Arkansas, then from Little Rock, then Oak Street, then the street number!!!!! LOL, she and her husband had bought the house from my Mother. And then she said, are You Billy, for my name seemingly was carved into the front door on the inside. And she explained how my Mother showed her through the house adding the stories that went with raising her children and keeping the house together. Having an older Brother and two younger ones, I explained to her, that I thought it might have been my older brother who inscirbed my name on the inside of the door. Which my Mom would share with us about the earliest stages of how we began to speak. Hence, when Mom was trying to figure out “Who did it?” and my older brother would say, point the finger at me, or perhaps verbalized Billy did it, then my mouth spoke the first words, “He did it”. And the story of suprise, sibling rivialry began towards creating the challenge for moderating of an edge, of concsious and unconscious in the development of a tiny human being.

    The context is even before teenager years!

    Today, I realize these signature marks are no less than the type shaped by Ghiberti. For the entrance into our house was special, though at times venturing into a unique tempo. Just for the record, and fact of the case, the German Cuckoo Clock kept sending forth the bird to chirp when the older brother decided to try out his throwing art with a potato. The clock ceased to cuckoo after fallling from its perch, though time would later be investigated along with the exploration of the bellows.

    Hence, how do We begin to harmonize our voices to identify for others what is cuckoo and not within behavior? Too many brothers have wrestled with each other or create family feuds by which even Wars are started or hips dislocated. And while we could see “Big Rock”, the area on which the Veterans Hospital sits in North Little Rock from the front porch, I can say today that I am grateful that generally speaking, I have rested my head more often than not on a pillow than on a rock.

    Perhaps We, a people and this addition to your article can help with understanding what happens in the effort to understand what begins to happen in the gap of the dis-organizing boundaries of human development, spoken, observed and data commodified.

    I think the situation may begin much earlier as to how the awareness for beauty, play as work evolve.

    Along with the fireworks and Ah-ahhhhhhh!

  • OLdhead: Learning to write and punctuate by the rules can be something all of us strive for. To write “schizophrenia” quoting from your line which names and references the point you are making is important. If part of the struggle we face is to realize justice while healing, then having the “language” of that moment of where the horrors and injustice of a forced medication against our will is difficult to realize and write/speak the truths to empowerment. Where is the boundary of “schizoprenia” if there are those of us that know the meaning of “Never Forget”, “I will not forget you”. Many have perished and many more have been and are being placed on the medications without appropriate or alternative modalities of care offered. Thus, are we challenged to bring into existence, better protocals for care and intervention?

  • Miranda:

    How does one distinguish the difference in the semantics of spoken words and then written words of different languages? For in the struggle to articulate what a thought is trying to convey, while in a different realm of thinking, the capacity to be aware, self aware to engage with a psychiatrist or a panel of psychiatrists is problematic. To understand further, the beauty of thought, thinking, as in the Artistry, that we can convey and be with, there seems to exist a need to edit out an expression that rests from the individual who is trying to speak/communicate an idea? Would you say even that framing a problem is also problematic, if the underlying issue(s) might be masked?

  • To retract or not, is that the question? To create history or erase history, is that the question? For to understand the development of a human, at what point will the better information be in place for the individual to realize the implications for the pursuit of happiness? Or, from the breadth and depth of the acquired knowledge and understanding that is recorded in the postings, then at what point will the rivers of insight release an awakening for restorative justice? Will law be the necessary arbiter of justice or will the insights shared create a different expression unimaginable at the moment, though never the less one potential way forward (or backward)…. whatever….. Thanks for your insights ……and raising the expecatations…

  • Micah: As I read your post this morning, at the Louisville Free Public Library on the last day of being able to read “Jimmy Warde’s Experiences as a Lunatic” who would be a patient in what was then called “The Arkansas Lunatic Asylum”, the questions arise:

    Have you considered where the ego-boundary resides in a socio-technical system, where each letter beting typed into the keyboard, sends a message through an e-system that is oscillating in time, to hold data in place? Or is that really so?

    Being that you are in Georgia, have you ever wondered over to the University of Georgia’s Ecology Program that was started by Eugene Odum. How ecosystems are understood is articulated in a beautiful and informed manner from within, by Gregory Bateson. The Ecology of the Mind might have had a better title if it read “The Ecologies…. Bateson would experience alcoholism and that aspect might have contributed to some of the struggle, though in Maps of the Mind, his map would be diagrammed as if his thinking were that of a locomotive with governor; the idea is the fuel and the movement into the thought as motion were somehow linked. But know we know the brain is much, much more complex. Hence, to frame the more creative, the most creative state that is bewildering and frightening, as the reality(s) can change so quickly within, how and why must the customer be forced into a space, that is devoid of an aesthetics, is void of learning, but rather is one of survival? The injection and speed at which the meds are forced along with the initial shock of the hospital or even a visit to the doctor, is not a space where the concept of boundaries are understood by one being introduced into the fragmented language and world of a medical practice. What can be realized as a path of self-improvement?

    Another question that is occurring when you discuss “group-conducted interventions” might be problem creating? For if one thinks of our race, not too different from the interlock rings of the Olympics, then what happens with the concept of competition, that as Deming realized can be destructive within the organization. But what happens if our culture tends towards the competitive nature in the consciousness, unconsciousness as we learn how rich and varied thinking can be, if only held? “Potentially understood as an expression not in stone, nor even as “stable” as the professional therapist might like? But in teaching one how to discern peace, create a career, and not be lost or considered as an arrogant type, then the idea of what might be lost is found as similar to that pearl in the field. Is the lustre not beautiful, to learn how the inner eye sees more clearly, while finding a word or two for the moment? is this not what you are saying, so to speak, but from a different experience.

    Now to discover the a last moment with Warde:

    (pg. 98, “Well, this young man who said those words to me was the son of a Baptist Minister who first baptized me. I gave myself up to the men immediately. The words of the young man made an impression on me at that moment which meant a great deal to me.

    I have often thought about it since, for those words were the most fitting at the moment of any words that could have been uttered)”

    In closing, I also am thinking about this as I type, but to have also read James Cone’s book, “The Cross and the Lynching Tree”, what stays in the memory was his comment that the asylum was more feared than the lynching tree.

    To understand one’s individual psyche, to explore self, to understand fear, as one would move around in all the rooms of space, within and outside of the body, but as an active mind. while pausing, reflecting, “seeing” the inner eye as being different from the visual eye, such the whole of body attempts to recover, then what sort of therapeutic sessions can emerge that will command attention?

    Even when nation states have bullied their way, the human that fails to stand for justice seemingly at some point will need to atone, not just for self, but for the lives and families who may have not understood, that to speak up, to ease down or up, the speed of a thought is really a joy to realize, perhaps more through the Arts? But also, in how the pure science can be framed.

    In this sense, Warde’s experience and the many others may be a reason for change that is meaningful.

  • What sort of currencies can we expect in response to the Injustices, perhaps also to address the times we would expire prematurely? The requisite change seemingly can occur from with, as well as outside of the (me?) to include the change and experience of the “We”, as in the People. Incredible patience on our part throughout history?!!!

    So much to study, learn and share?!

  • As I finish reading “Jimmy Warde’s Experience as a Lunatic” written in 1905, from being a patient in then what was called, “The Arkansas Lunatic Asylum”, I will leave the post with a quote from his autobiography, “The Place was enough to run any man crazy”.

    He realized his mind was unique though would become entangled; to understand the knowledge that has been created about how to improve mental health care, the experiences to understand, we are citizens, then who, what, when and where can we realize a “slight adjustment in understanding, our creative way of seeing and being in the world?”

  • At what point, then Irit, can the individual or the community say that murder is occurring, directly or indirectly? For if our lives are being shortened, or even terminated, where are the ethics that show problems with the rule of the law being ignored or the scales are being tilted by the money? the promise of monies through PACS? Bullying poised as Leadership? What sort of Justice can we expect in terms of 1), 2) 3)…..

    Tks,

    Bill

  • The article and reference to the whole article is incredible. Thinking itself is Dangerous, which to understand how much we are thinking about the experience of being hospitalized is difficult to unpack. Thank the staff for sharing the reference. Then go to Hill’s homepage for an insightful presentation about the challenge to think, to realize, yes, the delivery and experience for better space, Could our individual and collective experience be some where between fact and fiction? For to understand just how strong, minds can be, to hold a thought, and revisit the space milliseconds later, within a context of exploring the dynamics of self, seemingly will afford a better way forward. The colorful ways we have thought, think and will think seemingly is the stuff we are made of, to see and experience the world. The ideological thinking seems to be a challenge not just for a mental hospital, but perhaps (?), you think a way forward in governance. Without a Pac nor a Pack? Fealty not to the individual but rather to the principles afforded in the documents.

  • In reading about the change that will occur within the Federal Communications Commission with the language of “light touch”, and being that the telephone is conveyed to be the image of choice by which one troubled with the idea of suicide, then at what point, does the heavy touch, the wrong routing of the neural networks having agency to invade the space on is living in? There seems to be room by which a legal intervention might intercede in the behalf of those who share these stories where “suicide hotlines” operate.

  • The reason I would ask, is that I discovered a video on Kanopy, which our local library affords us 5/month. “California Typewriter” is more than being about typewriters, but rather a window into the creative process. Even Tom Hanks is in the story. Part of writing, whether with pencil, pen, a paint brush, is to realize a certain comfort with the medium. So, a typewriter has space between the letters, which one begins to hear. The creative river that runs through all life and at various scales of relationship, affords a way to ease out of “the noise”, though even then to learn how understand the elements that contributed to our situation only require a resetting of one’s clock, filled with and shaped more by our choices that reflect the integration of the consciousness with the unconsciousness. Greater realities emerge from where the thought becomes articulated, and “re-read” the words, claiming increasingly the joy of the creative, authentic self. Hope that makes sense.

    When you think about all of the technologies that impact our thinking, then one can exercise even greater choice in the search!

  • Would you have any idea about the degree of the brain’s operation to nuanced levels of civil categories (race, sex, creed, gender and disability?) . For when one processes from the context of Robert’s Rules of Order, the dynamics by which an organization begins to realize “minority” and “majority” opinions shows healthier expressions through the gavel, IF the Chair is reading the movement appropriately. Then how and why doe the values, inculcated from the City of Brotherly Love transport to the culture of Boston? Structurally, the design of the space, the amount of energy being used to sift through cognitive decline/enrichment seemingly is tied to forces yet articulated, either through the theories or even modulated through the technologies being used to measure. What is your thinking on stressors that enhance the aging and those that negate the golden years?

  • Part of the challenge in reading the threads, is keeping in mind at what time was the post made and then, how is the balance inherent to learning, either being a + or – if one wishes to think along this line. But then mayber there is also a third way, too. When we go to see the therapist or MD the next time, will we be able to realize even a more profound engagement in the discussions?

  • Listening to the Bazelon Law Center Awards tonight while recalling the memories of the times I would travel to the Center trying to realize change; change to access while creating the future city mirrored to the Alternatives Conference in Philadelphia by Justine Dart. Later, I would hear Marca Bristo from Chicago, then going over to Senator Durbin Office while a student at the School of Arts Institute in Chicago. Something seems to be missing from the language, the action by which the financial community figures out our economy is worthy to have our presence on the train. At what point, will children, as they travel through their life be able to access the appropriate resources to shape the space that affirms LIFE?

  • Last night would discover through local library, Kanopy video, “Unmistaken Child”, about the Buddhist concept of reincarnation. The idea of sentience is quite important and at odds with the pharma story referenced above. With context also to a reading of InDeed, about Divine Wisdom in the chapter of Daniel 2 and Genesis 41:15-40 raises insights as to the relevance for the management of any organization and governance. How does one explain that the House Rules, though in a democracy that gave license to various businesses, when it comes to pharma, children and the lack of understanding for what is generating the problems I would think requires distinct clarity. (And Leadership!). Additional reading references Genesis 41:15-40 about how Joseph would explain to Pharaoh the situation. If that were not enough, then another reading about Wisdom in the RBC’s Daily Bread, references Psalm 28 “If only We Could” when a situation might have evil within the hearts. Then there is a strong essay at Chabad.org regarding “The Challenge of Being an Isaac”, though the issues are not about things. Seemingly, to realize a life filled with child-like wonder and awe, the experiences that I/We read about are as much about stopped up “wells”. The challenge seemingly requires of each one and collectively of learning how to ask the questions, and the space to sort out the truths of what we are being told as it relates to each unqiue reality. The certainty that lives have been lost requires a response to a simple, “Why”?

  • When I read your comment along with others, to advocate and to have advocated, knowing this moment is in part framed by the technologies of “communication” as typed, can leave me in awe of discovering said site. But also without a verbal, an oral way to hear where my emphasis is, then I wonder (as I type this the seclusions, the wards, the yuk of the experiences encountered) requires one to go beyond. To hear or be in crowds or groups who choose the simplicity of words to realize race, or then in terms of writing as sharp declininations (Black versus White, or black to white as a range of grays) can be confusing as to the bias one can think. If I were thinking about how one might experience “light” or enlightenment from the painter’s perspective, could the argument be realized in terms of exclamation points? To be with and of the heart requires a great deal of being human. Oddly, when we realize the level of the other perspectives aligned with potential embarrassment, by the very words of mental health treated and treatment, there seems to be a point, whereby enough lines have been drawn in the sand. Tks!

  • Samantha: If you are located in Edinburgh, have explored film and the manner by which the language of “colonization” extends into the laboratory of and use of agar on the plates? To understand the sense of your research, the impact of the industrial nature of the Scot’s ability to have shaped steam at Glasgow poses significant space to hold the social accountable in suicide prevention? How would you realize the impacts of your search altering the prevailing design and operation of the designed and engineered space into focus for yourself and others? (And nations?)

  • Steve, do you sense this site as providing some degree of therapy? Or learning, though the impact of typing the words, transmitting through e-tech may not really get beyond Elting E. Morison’s book, From Know-How to Nowhere: The Development of American Technology”? To have been introduced and medicated, without first really understanding the nature of “the medical practice” seemingly leaves the court docket wide open for potential legal challenges, if there were only attorney’s who understood or could understand the nature of how rationality may not be so linear in nature. The real problems seemingly are surfacing now.

  • The moment the title was etched into the digital stone, “Who’s to Blame for the Lost Soul of Psychiatry”, the idea of Soul present in the corporate would become a killer. And surely, by Hickey’s words “The explosion of pharmaceutical development in the 1990s” suggests actions that were anything but balanced, respectful or even sustainable in the world of commerce. I would submit gradual, orderly growth as well as decline is a challenge to understand if we wish to realize smoother transitions. Which somehow, the beliefs stay in place as to what might be better, not more, but better modalities of engaged healing, driven by the citizen.

    The nature of this insight and comments might carry more weight in a juried publication, though essentially when people have lost their lives in the physical institution, then where is the critique that really understands the history before we become history?

  • The Risk analytics you suggest are more in the domain of quantitative assessments. Much of the operative words around psychology are built around “centering”, balance and imbalance. Would it be easier to go to the local hardware store and purchase different types of bubble balances, then explore how one, through a release of movement, crafts new emergent results from complexities of working reactions within the whole human. Further, if one can conceptualize the smallest of bubble shops and balances, then how can our understanding begin to change and reflect sometimes ways of thinking? Can the understanding, measure by measure, convey gyrations of awe in the discovery that thought might even be separate from a spoken language for some rhythmic time periods? (This might be difficult to notate from patient to patient since everyone’s experience is slightly different and storied from another.)

    To reflect a little about the nature of the unicameral government of England along with a monarchy might account more for the subtle nature of what is proper and hierarchical in powers of governance. On the other hand, after the French Revolution, and the awakening to where the power resides and what is considered as sovereign as well as SOVERIGN seemingly would be held within the people.
    then the civil practice of law should be reflecting the power of the “WE”, in the allocations and expenditures by which the whole is addressed.

    As we know, from the USA with the Constitutional Amendment that gave license to the corporate as if it had a conscious, we seemingly are seeing now governance patterns that are not embracing healthy understanding from where empowerment and governance originate. Instead, the prevailing political context reflects a poverty of aesthetics in the art of the deals/contracts that have been made.

    Finally, it seems to me that most of our thinking is impaired, when we really understand little about the structure by which “The LIGHTS” can be understood without a breaking of the vessels, the flow of thinking, that might be more of music than the harsh, intrusive actions that emerge out of the acts of Justifying injury. And at that, then how can one arise from the self-destructive space that seemingly is apart of “the treatment” experience?

  • Certainly, there is an ethical context to the individual as well as the organization’s process in the decision-making at the time of commitment. Can you elaborate any about the moral context at this time? If a law, or the emergent law that is written, followed by a policy that is written, that addresses the liability questions, then at what point, or where can the individual discover, what it means to be committed to surviving the atrocities of this painful experience.

    If the pro’s have mixed feelings that day and the potential patient is having a mixture of feelings in response to what is happening within the self AND the organizational thinking that surrounds the experience in an institutionalized manner, then at what point, can the Rights being understood and respected?

    Further, what does the summary data really mean in application/change to the operations? Does the granular nature of the sum void the individual experiences that many of us have encountered? When the papers are given to the individual for signature, is that moment ever conveyed as a “involuntary commitment that negates the necessity of being processed through a court ordered commitment”? And to begin to exercise choice while one’s medicated state is being played with, who has the courage of a Soteria Experience to articulate the realities of the experiences being encountered? Finally, as I re-read and read your final statements, I would ask if you are of the opinion that “society” has a mind, a collective understanding of what being a human means across the spectrum that is known?

    Therefore, would in the legal sense of trying to implement change, would the thought be stronger or weaker if the word “should” would be replaced by “shall”. (The should becomes a wiggling space while the shall invokes a more deterministic stance, that also has weights for the scales of mental health justice). Just my opinion. I do think you are at an intersect with this article.

  • Can you please elaborate about the idea of “qualitative interviewing of the individuals”, all at once to understand the social, or do the interviews take place over qualities of time, as a dimensional construct of awareness by the organization as opposed to the individuals? Trying to understand the nature of “social communication” in sound, print, telepathy? To tease out when the estrangement within the individual, begins to create some issues that have no words? (And may not have words, if ineffable?) And what if the sender-receiver are also receiving-sending with a small part being absorbed/modulating by the technologies?

  • If I were to realize a walk-about in Australia, could a citizen with a dis-ability be found in an entrepreneurial role? Your models do not include that category as an option, not the government workers who would understand that role, not the community that Would embrace the markets that affirms the exchange from people. Artificial intelligence jumped ahead while leaving us out. Would the architect and planners be shaping the space as a design challenge? Elected people shaping the policy, if they cater to Monroe’s in the coffers? And would the banking community finance the models that have this potential human expression present in all forms of public transportation? Nothing is more oppressive than a government that lacks policy that affirms life. The sheer hypocrisy in invoking the rhetoric and vitrol of pro-life vs pro-choice, anti-abortion misses the act of being socially aborted, especially when we begin the forced treatments that take us out of life. Or the danger of fire from poorly managed and manipulated ecosystems. Great insight Alex!

  • A friend who would be on risperdal would be treated to having all of his teeth replaced by the community mental health and insurance. However, I also wonder if his life was shortened by being on this medication. And unfortunately, the level and consistency of advocacy, by, for and with the citizens who are the customers, diminished in time. On the backside, the interest in trying to create the words, that can convey my stand and/or our stance, can convey an arrogance on my part. To me there is a learning of shaped in the conceptual realm of pure science, then applied science. Currently in medical practice, the increased computer program sifting out a pre-survey, to expedite the visit with the doctor, robotically advances a paradigm by which the corporate advances a position. And in reading this article and posts, I would wonder how to implement a way by which the self-monitoring, a way to document and improve through applied arts and sciences, a healing space that moves with the citizen in need. The oddity, in post hospitalization and care is not about receiving more zoom and post surveys, but I think rather to formalize the advocacy to stronger levels while also realizing the implementation with application….. And I’m not sure about this stream of query, though I think from reading Caplan’s writings, that perhaps the healing space can be imparted or conveyed, even when so much has been endured and witnessed. The ethics I would think when understood are enough to stop the runaway train of mental health “care”. Thanks to the whole of the emergent discourse.

  • A WHOLE! aF Klint would strive to realize the dissolving of boundaries in her work… and yet, to have considered to visit the Broad Institute Mental Health Annual Meeting? What sort of research is really understanding, recovery that understands the space in which the research operates does not even come close to the realities the customer experiences, whole as we strive to be and understand.

  • David: In reading again this AM about Cancer Alley, there seems to be class action lawsuits that can shape operations. However, to what extent have the customers who know a different healing process could emerge, have access to the legal representation has a class action suit. Our tribe is not defined like others, and the integrity to respect the uniqueness of all, really pushes the very nature of discover and representation in the prevailing legal framework.

  • Ten to fifteen years after my first experience in a State Hospital, I would encountered a therapist who would suggest that i read, “The Child Within. The sticky notes are still there, He also shared with me how he was diagnosed with bi-polar. And, while this is effort to type, to understand what it means to live in city, state area known for Thomas Merton, Dali Lama visits and Standar Gravure and Prozac. The ideology about the Right to Life, seemingly ignores realizing a better ethos for reconciliation and healing.

    The author’s thinking suggests that a recovery will enable one to become clearer and briefer. But what happens, when one attempts to describe the experience of the altered state, not as a pathology to be dissected, but rather as a way to understand the robust nature of reality through the arts and sciences by which a human becomes a better human? Ted, I am not sure if the practice of Law is yet able to understand how one can recover, while affirming the access to resources for the clients.

  • Irit: Have you thought of the terminology we are striving for as being slightly beyond the ineffable? We really work at a level beyond 100% (David was being modest with his expectations in percentages, as I suspect he, his family and the greater community sense a certain awareness before, at the edge and beyond. To tease out, hold and be in the space, where the limnal reality can emerge from the tension in the order to disorder flow or the disorder to order flow, tied inherent to the direction of time’s arrow. And even then, perhaps our perception of time becomes extraordinarily heightened/dampened as we process out the past while learning to become in the NOW? Words may not carry the freight, though poetics is different. Seems also that the tech is playing a role in allowing one to edit after even typing.

    If the focus is on 2022, then what does have a need of being organized or do we sense and convey a certain way of assembling that folks have yet to understand in the role of assembly? And yet, the design for accessbility, the x-disability seems to beyond the actions of politicians and urban/rural designers.

    If one wishes to enter into the seasonal political races, imagine what the crowd would look like if they went and filed for different offices? One doesn’t have to take the money as I sense this has been an influence in the advertising and manipulation of health care and other disciplines rooted in our economic system. Money does need to be created or consider time as currency. And historically, people have been fearful of having their financial notes pulled for fear of losing credit/or creating wealth.
    In these various scenarios, there is a certain legal context at work which can set boundaries; but as Judy Chamberlain would say, “We’re Free”.

    Typing/sharing my opinion though is not exactly the same as the robust conversations one could have in an Alternatives or NICL conference. Tks, Irit and David. Enjoyed our chat yesterday. A clue as to the politics we are trying to operate in can be observed in “Dark Money”, about the law that gave rise to the Super Pac and how only one state would challenge the Supreme Court Ruling. Call it out, “What is corruption’s name?
    Hence, how would see a different polity emerge? And where or at one point, can We, as a people realize change is good!

  • “The field of Global Mental Health has previously been criticized for resisting critics who have urged the field to consider power relations and histories of oppression, particularly in their plans for “scaling up” treatment in low and middle-income countries.” and the last line, “Black Lives Matter and worldwide street protests have shown that regarding racism, colonialism, and police violence, silence and inaction are unacceptable,” Weine concludes, and it more important than ever for Global Mental Health to commit itself to address these issues within the field itself.”

    Would the strategic response also include the importance of how and why to “scaling down”? To talk income, in terms of low and middle, does the quantity of numbers equal the qualities of lives experienced?

    Being that today is Global Mental Health Day. then how and why could this expenditure of time cycle around the world, perhaps making a difference for others, as well as myself, with some humility. To read the letters that create the words, the space between, the silence of the ground between, as in figure/ground is essential in order for the words to be articulated into sound. Typing is different, each of us are different as humans, all having a rather fascinating journey on “Normality Street”. Do we need to create a relative handle as we reflect on what Einstein would say about solving the problem requires thinking (essentially modulating to a different keyboard/field) in order to create the music for today’s parade! (While running with Eric Liddell, the gentleman from Scotland ) Tks Samantha!

  • I would disagree with you Emaline. Our collective mental health as well as individual is being stressed to think we can model everything with and through the computer. Tragically, lives are lost in rushing the craftsmanship, the qualities of a more interesting space being shorted out. So, even in the strength of the arguments advanced, which are on point within this domain of language, there is nothing artificial about LIFE that can be experienced. One of the fascinating designed opera houses occurred in Australia because an engineer was able to turn himself inside/out. When an individual turns their thinking inside/out the risk of becoming stuck (as Robert Pirsig described in Zen and the Art of Motorcyle Maintenance) becomes real. He had an interesting description of the analog prior to the digital.

    For the record, in traveling to Waterloo to realize my MA, Ithe letters from the psychiatrist would have to be cleared through Canadian Customs just as the US has practiced. The issue is about healing over time as well as addressing the social of the injustice imposed upon us. Looking back, Boltzmann who wrtoe the equation for disorder would visit California and then return home to his native country. He committed suicide.

    How do you trace out the step by step post the mind, when in an altered state of operation? The mind is a verb, with even a spiritual aspect, perhaps articulated in knowing from the mystics perspective.

    There is nothing artificial about the experiences we have endured. The practice of law on the other hand, seemingly is ignoring the legal challenge that is coming due! What attorney(s) have the stamina to atone for what often has been murder, directly and indirectly or that gives rise to poverty to us, singularly and collectively?

  • Do you think mental health treatment has created a colonization that needs de-colonization? If one holds the potential to apply science through better management, then how can the more oppressed group, denied often from being thought worthy to even participate in LIFE, create a better, healthier reality forward? But in knowing that even trauma has a supply and demand curve, how come We, the mis-treated can give rise to a different economy that is structured in units of time? See : https://www.ethicalmarkets.com/about/research-advisory-board/edgar-s-cahn/

    Perhaps there might be a way, that through our values, we can create a way out of this one false economy that seemingly is robbing people of their lives, to one where an ethical praxis become rooted in “No-Throw-Aways!

    Even time, is a dimension for one to understand as being important in the creation of healing space!

  • Have you explored Charles D. Morgan’s Matters of Life and Data? https://www.thecharlesmorgan.com/

    Our challenge now in an era where the roll out for jet travel can be modeled through computer assisted models (see https://www.bloombergquint.com/businessweek/boom-technology-wants-to-build-supersonic-jet-that-cuts-flight-times-in-half) poses some real business issues with modeling projects though the computer. By comparison, the soup of pharma seemingly is not understood at the human level of consumption and informed decision making from the first time we are challenged to decide under pressure to take the meds or not without understanding the impacts for our travel through space and time, that is the journey through life.

    Being the meds have incredible side effects, when can we expect the industry to be grounded? The design and engineering of our shared and individual habitat seems to not grasp that people are being murdered directly if not indirectly.

  • Peter: If all life as being experienced has elements of subjectivity in the measure of the moment being experienced, whether one is becoming depressed or oscillating to the mirror state, then how does the Western Cultural values awaken to the deterministic value that can become destructive? Better yet, within the thinking and meditating, how or why can the healing space be experienced into a safer place on and off, even away the web? Discovering a better way to afford presence, would seem to be of value to our communities? And places we visit?

  • Sorry, I confused the spelling of Bloch and Block. The Block that presented at the conference has a cancer clinic in Chicago, the other Bloch would create the Bloch Cancer Foundation and Gardens, and owned the H&R Block Tax Company. However, if the prevailing social structure can not understand how to advance credit by which We, can realize the importance of our LIFE as opposed to death, then who or what is avoiding a shift in the nature of justice?

  • A follow-up question: Does one think a city is an organism, that should work 24/7? From the meeting at the NYAS, melatonin intake would be increased along with sleep in a blackened room and improved diet to reduce the cancers (up to 50% in women) as reported by Dr. Stephen Bloch of the Bloch Cancer Institute. There were also some researchers from Texas and S.C. that also affirmed these positions. So, this news helps to understand a way forward that will be addressed. Tks.

  • And here: https://www.nyas.org/ebriefings/circadian-disruption-and-cancer/

    I would attend this conference at the new tower of the World Trade Center, in the building where the New York Academy of Science is headquartered to hear about circadian rhythm, light and cancer. I would work up a poster that drew from Technology Assessment Office (see: http://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1991/9108/9108.PDF) and then ponder the meaning of what a city did to expand for UPS, to hire college students to work their conveyor lines at night) that flies in and out and night. All the while, the larger health insurance company stages fitness runs, sponsors events, when the experience from the mind side of the body, has not been so favorable where the horse rules along with a serious history of doping. And then today, to try and drive home, to get back to my apartment in a city that has installed concrete barriers and dump trucks to shut off access to downtown—- Are we opened for business ? These actions seem to be a strange way to ramp up to making America Great Again? And by Saturday, to realize a new Judge? On the bench? George’s eyes are watching!

  • Perhaps there is a way to explore, or I am curious if you embrace an awareness for the Fourth Dimension? Attempted to convey this aspect in the final show, while hanging on by a thread.

    I would experience in junior high, the student who would ask for punishment from the industrial arts class. The idea was bizarre, but even more where the other teacher, Bryant would give all his students a Christmas spank with the paddle. Sick educational systems!

    Your statement about parental love is of importance…. For the opposite of love is not hate but indifference as Wiesel would claim. The triangulation and knowing how a developing human processes the emotions when the experiences in an hospital setting are saying “Fuck You, Psychiatry, Psychiatrists and the Hospital” (see Artuad’s comments), then the platform to connect and change the parts in the systems become crystal clear…….. at least that is what the thinking is saying now.

  • I suspect we we will have to create the gallery!

    Would that be of interest? When our 501.c3 was intact, I would invite the local Mayor, Jerry Abramson, to be a judge for our Art Show. He had endured handling the mass killing at the newspaper by a man on Prozac. The settlement by Lilly silenced the discussion.

    But for 3 days we had a conference, presentations by our people in what was then the Holiday Inn on Broadway. Part of the disconnect that would frustrate the efforts was the discounting, that seemingly conveyed or ignored that We, are the citizens!

    Your work is remarkable and elevates the dynamic that so many face when being processed through the institution. Advise as you see fit, for I do believe the creative way forward, through the Arts will lift and communicate the reason to affirm creatives.

    My brushes and pencils are smarter than me! The keyboard, I wonder whether to take this apart, and strap down to the bed… (which I would experience after walking off the grounds, and being taken back to the hospital, and placed in seclusion).

    tks much!.

  • The protocol for my experience during the mass killing at the Courier-Journal, the killer was on Prozac that was quietly settled by Lilly in a manipulative manner, was to experience a forced commitment. Then placed on disability, after the meds were played around with. Then routed into Voc-Rehab who would alter the career dreams, while I began to discover the organization of c/s/x.

    When you talk “Welfare State”, the terms have become one of confused communication whereby an individual can think of individuals who have accessed legit programs. Then there is the report about the Welfare of the State, as in how are we doing across the various departments/disciplines . Somehow, the monies that have programed to aid those who for reasons are directly visible, are a drop in the bucket compared to the monies financed to create wars and space travel. Money itself can be a sponge like device, to be played with, just ask George Soros or astute investors who know their currencies. Time has been spent approaching the medical doctors, medical boards and the departments of justice. Certified letters and other communications shows the efforts. And the lack of intervention shows another……

  • How and why do you not include the banker, the financial system in some of these meetings? Our non-profit had started the Peer Program, but without the appropriate resouces to grow salaried positions, then how could one ever expect real empowerment in the State where Lincoln was from? Withe the death of Ginsburg, I suspect the PAC money is pouring in to the coffers, but that does not necessarily mean WISDOM in rulings and votes!

  • I do not think “they have to deny it”; defining the “it” while costing such the liabilities and loss will not be absorbed, by anyone individual might be the certain act that elevates the reason for our existence. We are challenged to keep fighting, to find the words within our respective disciplines and countries to provide the rational for such a package a program. Murder, indirectly is no longer acceptable.

    I did have an Uncle who said, “He couldn’t sit still” but what was advanced by theory in science then and the emergent science, NOW is much different. The ability to write more may be confused with a quantity to work through as opposed to quality(s) by which answers find their way to surface.

    Imagine from this image what it would mean to take a jump to the left or the right from the high wire, the logic to walk a thin narrow reality is not! And yet, to drive more anxiety into the discussion, marketing and a reason for …..

  • Furthering the image and reality(s)
    1. The marketing image chosen for this is quite similar to a flyer for one of the pharma companies. The man was struggling to walk the high-wire with a pillow underneath as if the meds cushion one, (the message increases the buy in to medicate) or to walk through life without the balance pole…. Life is …..?

    2. In Louisville when UPS was expanding the airports, the planes began to fly over the house, the noise too much for a good night’s rest. So, I would go to the Humana psychiatrist who easily wrote me a prescription for Klonopin. Yuck, after a while I quit cold turkey….. didn’t nor had I heard anything about cold withdrawal tapering at that time. What pain occurred!!! Later in going to see the psychiatrist, when I said I wanted to see my records, he got up and pushed me out of his office. So, in checking with the other consumer friends in our organization, discovered this Dr. had a poor working relation with patients. We filed some complaints, he was removed.

    3. My dedication to the Lil Engine is deeply ingrained into how I perceive motion, each side of my body at times experienced as the fly wheel of STEAM…. Science, technology, engineering Art and math. And yes, after hearing Justin Dart speak to us at Philly, I would send him a copy of Waddy’s book. He wrote back with a nice thank you, the story being a a childhood favorite….Today’s RBC Daily Bread talks about access and platforms at rail stations that remain not accessible. The costs of trying to get to destination can drive one nuts, and yet for some reason, We, the People seem to not think one day, one might also need to access through a properly designed structure. How come we do not see this?

    4. The doctor uncle was a treating physician at the MoPac Hosptial in LR…. Sometimes for lack of a a better concept, since our grandfather had a lumber yard and would operate with footpowered jigsaws and so forth, the operations would vibrate a part. And the leather belt that drove the big wheel to the little wheel would break. And grandfather would dole out punishment to his children, though they may have been yards away when the machine’s singular bolt held it all together. So, how with and without meds is our world held together? How much energy is spent adjusting to just right, not too cold, not too hot?

    5. Design Design, Design….. I too would travel aboard aircraft, moving through the Chicago MidWay and O’Hare….. Deming would advise to take the flights that put one at destination rested. One thinks one is getting there sooner, while the body is adjusting and for a while surrendering to the flight and experience.
    Today, though just think what would happen if We, a people migrated to a place to recover, conference while sharing the hope and methods by which compassion, integrity, the methods are absorbed as an “experiment”…. To realize said gathering, that begins to foster a better “currency” that values life in the LIFE of self and that which surrounds and flows through us? Is that close? I think would be the ideal way to launch a better reality(s). I do not think I would enjoy riding in the Space-X capsule but time has been spent serving on a steam tourist rail. But the project ran out of steam.

    Points in travel are not linear! No path really seems to be that way, nor curvilinear either… Somehow, at night, with a better rest, a fresh approach begins the day! Be Well and thank you for reminding me that any one who has ever been on placed on the meds might also be a member of the Great Wallenda High Wire Act!

    Tks,

  • Larry, would this gallery be in Vermont or in California? Thank you for the critique. Hall’s Dictionary on Subjects and Symbols in Art, the author suggests the Bell. “Attribute of Antony the Great, sometimes attached to crutch or staff; of Music, personified, one of the Seven Liberal Arts, who strikes a row of bells with a hammer, as does David in medieval Psalters. Thoughts about being Music Personified? Democracy, that rings out from a cracked bell or Buddhist Bowls? To make sense or understand, the nature of the industry by which the pharma began to shape the space marked for anything but healing, seemingly needs to realize now a voice, gained by shows. How to realize shows? On this topic? That conveys the problem is not all within the individual, but in the very practice of what is considered treatment?

    Also, with regards to entering into the High Holies, by which Time becomes warped, the pace becomes slowed down, as reflexivity goes up? How or do you see that in your critique and gaze, as in scaling of relationships, and then where does this point, if point describes adequately, realize meaning within the individual and also the technology?

    There is an incredible amount of information being shared on this site, and then learning how to respond, raise some questions, or even choose to be silent. Though to muster up, a way to realize an appropriate intervention requires a skillset of held by a team. Thank you for the sharing your insights.

  • Is a “Zoom” conference the norm? If one attempts to access a “Zoom” meeting that is filled up, then where does the mind of the “zoomed in crowd” and the others, who remain invisible communicate a voice, to be a a study, that by definition, studied a zoomed in conference? I do no think the virus, is sophisticated enough to choose one or the other; though trying to access health across barriers seemingly has become more difficult.

  • Sorry, the word “their” was misspelled. The correct word should have been “there” ? I ask this and question for there is a way I have come to realize in the richness of thinking, even about thinking, that multiple tracks wish to emerge, or the words invoked (perhaps from a certain struggle with phonetics) communicates a more nuanced reality(s) with hints of an underlying imagination trying to realize voice. So, having typed this, (how many speak as they type, to hear and make oral the message), there is a questioning occurring in the moment. Their is when used “To think their” is different from “To think there”.

    To try and read carefully what is being typed, may vary if we were speaking the words in person, having a conversation, which is different from a zoom, where many can watch and “feel connected” or have learned to accept the position of the technology, the costs, and the expenditure of time into their lives.

    In comment editor stance, now I realized (LOL) of either my inability to focus on “my life”, as I ended with “their lives”. How do others cast from the awareness of the self in the singular to the organizational self, of the We, the their in order to create understanding for what is called in legal terms, “standing”? Each letter seems to have a particular weight in trying to share a story; to have witnessed and experienced what was encountered in the course of medical practice needs to be placed on the agenda’s of organizations no less than what Justin Dart visualized and spoke before the Alternative Conference in Philly in the early 90’s.

  • “Yet I’ve seen no visible debate occurring”. .. .. .. ….. … … …. “Yet I’ve seen no visible debate occurring”……. . . . . . . .. . . . …… . … … …. . Period!

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    x the argument; the logic is not necessarily an x to y expression; rather the challenge is more from an ecological perspective where understanding can be realized in relationship to the normality of engineered systems as well as the outliers outside the lower and upper range of data. Even then the methods and logic of artists types seemingly represents a different expression of intuition and learning. Does Law as practiced, merely a game or do the individuals begin to realize their “life’s purpose”? Organized statistically may filter the same results, if the questions are being framed in the same manner. However, one is challenged to question, was the energy spent organizing a thought spent with a tactile focus, have the emergent thoughts seeded the field of understanding to ask where did the ideas, products originate from? And who or what is trying to advance the civil rights to include difference? (The civil rights of access to credit and trade, when in fact the records show an absence of understanding for economic development. ) The community based climate MOOD inside a Space-X capsule Changes the revolutions of how to focus and release the breathing.

    In closing and checking the Comment, the program squashed and collapsed the art that was set just so. Sorry…. the tech of this software is causal to the problems, too.

  • Does switching a party in reduce the neurons firing off from the law firms/cash flow at the federal level long enough? Something seems to happen to Democracy as well as leadership, when management acts out as if they own the staff. Just look at the oath they take when one signs on to work for government or is elected. When you reference Fromm and not reference the big discovery by Watson and Crick, nor the capacity to understand more clearly the neuro art and science where does that leave the question of mind as structure?

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  • I began to realize with this post, the nature of the comment process is indented, to realize a certain way of placing typed, not spoken words on the “table”. The structure as now formatted, feeds my comment subordinated to BC, which in some ways, for me is problematic. Soon, if not already, if you are or will become an LSW, and a Master at that, how will you or do you process time, as structure? As time, an essential element in the discourse that is an expression even at the neural level?

  • While I could have gone to Colorado at one point in my life, the journey took me to Louisville from Florida. In the last few days then I would notice a moment waiting to realize a truth that seemingly is hidden within the Bar Cartel of Kentucky. What Citizen does not have standing? See:

    https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/state-bar-takes-medieval-approach-to-mental-health-says-federal-judge

    Perhaps the better chant might be: No Justice, No Pegasus!

    The Greek Myth Flew Away some time ago, though in the advancement for an understanding for the evolving laws of this country, then how or why would the Bar and the practice believe that it can mow over people while destroying their family(s) and careers?

    For the Legal Profession, the nature of the beast may seem to be a game, when in our reality, the issue is about LIFE and Death. Many lives have been forfeited because we have not yet had our collective transformative moment.

  • More than 35 years ago, after the hearing with Voc-Rehab that would rule in my favor, the Commissioner would still fault the hearing and I did not realize the nature of how contextual law is to shaping image and my well being, if not the role by which advocacy attempts to effect change. Understand the small amount of time being spent to enter this log, to try and “see” how a layered conversation is perceived and read is puzzling.

    Back then I would discover some stickers, “Research takes Brains” that would appear in mental health events. I didn’t know of Fuller Torrey nor was aware of how he was even caught removing the brains from people without the legal authorizations. To understand the degree and depth of hurt that has been inflicted into us, on us by others is beyond words.

    At that time, my healing and advocating response/rebuttal would be spent making a diploma type of piece that made the ruling of Hearing Officer important to me. The frame shop that cut the matte though misspelled the term, Citizen, which I purposefully had written under my name.

    This concept by from which the power flows forth needs to be held and understood on different planes of being, in how the magic of the I becomes the WE.

    In this way, can We/I awaken others, too? Have a Great Labor Day! (And keep on posting, discussing and thinking about one’s purpose in LIFE!)

  • Jose:
    I am intrigued by this study as a contrast to having obtained my records and legal commitments. The observations were made regarding a statement of rights that was in the paperwork and my memory of a simple booklet from the State Hospital referenced “Rights” that was really never explained in terms that I could understand.

    But I understood something was incredibly wrong in Louisville, Ky when I would be told by the Staff of the Mayor and the Mayor that I could not attend nor participate in a public meeting at Central High where Ali attended.

    Public hospitals and the public institutions seem to fail in knowing how to understand what adds to the life of Rights.
    Often, the experience necessary for healing seems to have couched the language differently for private hospitals in their operations.

    Hence, if studies are emerging that show a different value with values challenging not only the markets, then what can We do, to realize the scholarship and actions that usher in the requisite change? The idea of psychosocial as it relates to the boundaries of a social island embedded within the larger concept of what is the “Social” seems to be missing understanding within how and why an economy by us, for us and with us has yet to emerge, as we Labor in thought.

    Thank you for this update!

  • When I first read the post yesterday, I would experience confusion in response to my history in advocacy. I did not know of Jaffee until now, and I would discover the association with Torrey. So, I had to look at their website, and read, to understand the whole, bias and all. The journey though rerouted me into a different reality and to read/understand this page, with a title “An Obituary for My Colonizer: Reflections on the Legacy of DJ Jaffee” along with the Editor’s note to “Keep DJ’s effort to legislate for compulsory treatment”. The question I ask if it were possible, would An Obituary for “Our” Colonizer serve the community from a different perspective? “Colonizer” has another meaning and not to deflect from writing through the keyboard, but to keep on, keeping on in learning seems to be a essential for our ability to converse in and away from the struggle for social justice. Locally, the issues of “No Justice, No Derby!” are playing out in the press. Another question might also address the nature of science, as framing and applied to the issue of mental health care from “our” perspective. I realize and respect the discourse around the role of science as currently being framed in these discussions. The discourse may also need to examine the law, the creation of law and what forces that shaped a reality to exclude and diminish our potential to recover from abuse. Even to see through false arguments of Jaffee and Torrey without being destroyed.

    In some ways, unique to healthy discussions, (though typing silently and pasting is a different way) I miss the space in which an in-time conversation can be realized. These article and comments seem to be seeds, so to speak. Tks for the contribution.

  • There is another level to surface, if not already that shows the behavior of within organizations, governments, protected civil servants and “at will” or finance, how the “slavery” finds the numbers that lock up the silence within the administration of business (government, private and non-profit). This raises the questions that surround the nature of justice being blind? Or the challenge for this site and others to move the material forward for the scales to weigh in on the gravity of the situation. Many have been murdered, it seems indirectly or directly out of the arrogance of the medical practice or the We, the People as a silenced body rather than realizing the Art, as LIFE. –More later–

  • How would this event at the New York Academy of Sciences fit into the time frame of your story? See: http://www.nyas.org/search-results/?searchedString=Bipolar Disorder an event that happened in Dec 15, 2009 I would attend because the local psychiatrist would be presenting and I am curious about science. To hear the three tests by which the meds were tested on animals was bizarre, to speak up and raise questions in an audience of up and coming physicians and researchers was even stranger. To have attended the meeting inside the first of the New World Trade Towers where the New York Academy of Sciences rents space weaves even a more twisted path into the stories shared on these pages. I think some cognitive dissonance would occur, some good trouble as some have been known to say, by my being in the room and asking some questions as one who once used the medications.

    There seems to be some strange funding of this event, when inquiry into the source of the funders was made and people had realigned within the pharma industry.

    But then when one considers the scale and size of this real estate and the families that own the real estate see: https://www.madinamerica.com/2020/05/jinxed-persecution-evan-durst-kreeger/ how could one not realize the threads by which our lives have been placed at risk or even shortened. Daniel Liebskind, an architect who was affiliated with the University of Kentucky, would guide the rebuilding of the Towers. One wonders about the wealth generated and lost, but more importantly, the stories of Prozac, Louisville and how the truth, the whole truths have been kept from surfacing.

    This work is more than being a whistle! Thanks for the insights…. will have to study further….

    Look at the location of where Shering-Plough was headquartered, the histories of the company and then try to understand the level of intelligence that was turning the merger mania…

  • Could there be a way a reader is learning to read, and not hear, or understand and yet understand the context of a discussion, whether it be through this “forum” of augmented comments, to one that is a live radio interview versus, just an in in person exchange? For me, the “music” of another voice, is also important to hear the inflections that tune one in or out to the discourse. And sometimes, typing into this box or other venues, can be a very tiring exercise. I wonder even to how this is “recorded” into our individual as well as collective mind of MIA.

  • Miranda and others:
    The Story is bigger than Julie’s. I wondered a bit about how this option to post shows up for me to consider? Is your computer system choosing on what choices to post to sift and sort a truth, or is this a choice administration of MIA is making?

    Never the less, without going on too much, the first of this post accurately describes Louisville and the reality of Vencor, the giant health care company that was double billing medicaid, which in Clinton’s Administration was caught. The corporation went bankrupt and many investors were hurt. I unfortunately invested some funds, thinking the community and the corporation was a bit more honest.

    Being afforded the opportunity to receive a disability check, after being once again committed to the hospital, I would accept and began even trying to understand the nature of “my/the madness”.

    So, I would discover the state organization, Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Illness. While the motto talked about self-determination, there was no wording with regards to economic empowerment. And when I would attempt to raise funds, to speak to the local banks, the response was, “The Government Takes Care of the Handicapped”. Only a handful of people would help when I would present the idea of our organization and the work we did.
    In addition, Time was spent appealing to Voc Rehab for assistance to realize a PhD. from Walden University, one of the early distant learning schools, that preceded the on-line experience. I was wanting to re-enter the labor market to teach and explore a certain concept of science, where I would be able to teach at the college level. While the Hearing Officer ruled in my favor with certain conditions, I did not understand the structure of law, hearings and the steps to take next, when again, the Voc-Rehab Commissioner, Sam Serraglio would request further clarification.

    From NIDRR, I would learn of people who were blind, that would access Voc Rehab for full support. And yet, what was evolving was a wall that seemingly was even against the ADA. Even in writing this response now, I wonder how and why there are few reports about the Voc-Rehab experience.

    So, what did Jack Kieffner, the Rehab Counselor then do, but to rewrite my plan to become an entrepreneurial land use planner. The agency would pay for the Geographical Information Systems Course, but not the computer to run the software, that puts a whole region on a computer screen. And when I was paired with an engineer, and I began to ask questions, what did he do but to go the teacher and tell him, if he didn’t get me away from him, then He would kill me. I would fail the course.

    Somehow, I thought Derby Time would be a great way to advance disability presence and show how we can occupy space aboard the Belle of Louisville, an aged steamboat. Using the business model of “Build it, and they will come”, I signed the contracts and thought by word of mouth, people would show up.

    The effort to enter into a venture around Derby though failed.

    And shortly afterwards, what unfolded from the community, the bank referenced above would also respond to me at the Belle’s Meeting (knowing government entities have public meetings open to anyone) with the phrase, “Have You Saved the World Yet?”

    I really was not trying to realize that expression as much as attempting to broaden understanding for how and why citizens with disabilities should also be at the table.

    Sadly, this morning as I face the computer screen, I can offer more stories, but how can We/I move the experience into a legal challenge? Or how does one realize commerce and a way to earn a living when, the prejudice goes beyond the categories occupying the public discourse. Or effect change of consciousness when so many people deliberately and some without understanding, just how important the design, engineering and planning challenge is for the future.

    Not ever being able to realize a legal structure, to be banked, that is to have a financial, mentoring experience has been difficult. And yet, what I have been more interested about is the reason(s) by which I can still commit to trying to explain, this letter, line of words, or even better to create an artistry that elevates humanity for a better world. This can be accomplished, if we awaken from this darkness.

    This is my story this morning, and for the most part, imparts a small snapshot, that really is not too different from Julie’s story. I hope the effort will raise awareness.