Saturday, April 17, 2021

Comments by Bill Wells

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  • Further reflections, experiencing the politics of brains in motion. For me, and to come into the awareness and appreciationi for this page only a little over a year ago, has afforded me a way to type maybe a little clearer? The past is on replay for to have been committed to the State Institution rather than the private Baptist, afforded me a different reality and experience to the designed space versus just a floor that only had rooms and secured room with little or no community space.

    But upon being committed to the State Hosptial then time would be spent trying to enlist Legal Aid’s Grif Stockley who would not assist and so I got the public defender for a few minutes before the commitment. But I would write letters which I still have from the state hospital to my mentor from Canada and he would write back. From the exerience and time, a commitment would be made to try and eplain and understand “my madness”, even the labels we have been given.

    And then procedurely now, be wondering what would have looked like if I had taken to court or requested for another hearing, rather than allowing the doctor to write the letter to the judge assurring the process was working? What if I would have gone to court with a stack of letters from around the world that would encourage me to learn, to recover with empathy and to not harm others, even though the space one is in can be horribly toxic.

    Part of the issues we face in this site is the degree we know our history. And the split nature of how laws have been crafted to address patterns of behavior that fall outside of the normal bell curve. To understand how to improve self understanding, the operation of the floor and the administration of the institution requires intervention. So, who is on the Board of Fairview? Who is shaping policy of that Hospital?

    If anyone works for Fairview, what bank does their employer make the payroll through? Who bonds and finances this operation? These economies? One debit can have many credits and vice versa. One letter copied to many might have an impact? A posted letter that is tactile, and received by Charles might be another gift, of the beginning of real recovery for himself and others (including the psychiatrist who asked him about normal…..

    To understand if the human had an important role in this process, then as a scuptor where do we need to chisel our letters, into what format or network?

    Maybe someday we can have anotherAltneratives Conference in Minneapolis with a visit to the Governor’s Office, Mayor’s Office, Fairview, the State Medical Board;s Office…… just be making a list to all the people and entities we need to thank for giving us his chance!!! I just hope we will not have to climb the outside dome of the State Capitol? And that perhaps someday, maybe The movement can move around while transforming the praxis! A few thoughts at the end of the day!

  • Should we also be able to copy/send a letter to Charles Helmer?

    What is his mailing address? (

    One of the lasting experiences of having been committed was the challenge to converse with the realities of being processed. Ministers would not visit, some letters would be written and mailed, but there seems to be the creation of action in behalf of this young man without also bringing him into the loop.

    To fathom the degree and extent of the legal, the business, the medical, and then even our fascinating stories could be a teach/learn.engage with the whole of the experience?

  • Yes, we will know! If the gradations of abuse move to the more/most intense under the category of sexual abuse, the horrofic challenge to unpack that moment, to replay and attempt to stay with what happened to be told in a current time by the violated, is a space! This hot zone of thinking is difficult and peculiar to covey and place in the language of law, the legal that is driven by the existing rules on the books.
    But if one explores the context at that moment when the violation was occurring and then knowing how silence also was being reinforced, to not tell of occurance, there might emerge further trials or even party collapse. Sadly, the issue is not reserved to a corporate party or individual, but rather seems to be an issue being lost in the aggregation of numbers, that make data sets.

    Has the time clock, the impact of logging in now or then, or the home security camera add to an understanding of what constitutes the nature of realizing a healthier security? Or are the gated doors and entrance ways just a front? And at times, when the individual’s mind or even a community mind turns on itself for the lack of realizing justice, even to the extent of committing suicide, then who or what level of government/governance is responsible?

    For the liability issues are not necessarily buried, but rather like ploughing a field for diamonds, at what point to the rocks, the solid information surfaces to convey the story? Perhaps the proper attorney as yet to emerge, for fear of not being able to earn a living if the truth were to understood, the degrees to which people knew but remained silent?

    (I attempted to edit, but then the clock expired so I copied what I meant to review and perhaps convey greater clarity),

  • Yes, we will know! If the gradations of abuse move to the more/most intense under the category of sexual abuse, the horrofic challenge to unpack that moment, to replay and attempt to stay with what happened to be told in a current time by the violated is a space, peculiar to covey the and place in the language of law, the legal that is driven by the rules on the books. But if one explores the context at that moment when the violation was occurring and then knowing how silence occurred, there might emerge further trials or party collapse. Has the time clock, the impact of logging in now, or the home security camera add to an understanding of what constitutes the nature of realizing a healthier security? Or are the gated doors and entrance ways just a front? And at times, when the individual’s mind turns on itself for the lack of realizing justice, even to the extent of committing suicide, then who or what level of government/governance is responsible. For the liability issues are not necessarily buried, but rather like ploughing a field for diamonds, at what point to the rocks, the solid information surfaces to convey the story?

  • A commitment hearing to be understood as a part of the a-part dysfunctional scales of a process also moves at the speed of Light requiring only if the community of citizens to engage? Both the objectivity withe the subjectivity? The realities of being block-chained are inevitable, though freedom can and will happen. When the Whole Story is understood outside of the moving scales of opinions perceived as The Law! The Rights?

  • I dis-agree completely!

    For I wonder to the extent this site, is in reflection a universe of shared learning.

    The intuition, the imagination is an incredible reality(s) to which we can realize just how discovery beyond self is a liberation of sorts. Your astute observation in the last line could be the launch pad for further justice actions. Be well, enjoy the day while orbiting along your path!

  • Steve: To approach the story from the Arts, the Dutch as linguistics and the cultural experience of having a coffee, the experienced as related in the story is more than the coffee, though the beverage is strong. If not an incredible culture that has realized a network of transportation that moves the public around rather well. To view the reference about sleep and understand one of the key researchers in the film was from the Netherlands, to even absorb the complexities of the research in trying to understand the waves being generated in and through a night of restful sleep is important. To have attempted to realize sleep in a mental hospital, where my being was working just as now in typing, though the monetization for said creation of knowledge has yet to occur. Not that the effort was not made directly, but realize a non-0rofit or for-profit, there are certain skills of ordering the effort with the hope the service or role meets the expectations of the funding sources. I would think the disrespect may begin even earlier than the cradle, perhaps more in relation to a greater force (a cosmology of knowing), that may or may not be inevitable. Is it inevitable that we have become more apart of the machine? To be objectified into a discourse that keeps our presence within tghe bounded discussions aligned with roles, or does one have access to the resources that lifts the cover to show the larger community, how difficult the coffee tasting in the hospital can be when compared to one experienced say in the coffee houses of Utrecht?

  • In clicking on your reference to this post, the discourse on coffee in the Netherlands was equally of importance. For at one point, time was spent trying to realize a Ph.D. through the University of Humanistics in Utrecht, but then 9/11 occurred and the stressors if not the nature of security began to shift the nature of travel if not my well being. With your orientation towards philosophy and quality, a reading of Pirsig’s book, Zen the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance might convey a way to true the wheel if not the the joy associated with the coffee. However, recently a vieweing of a documentary about sleep, might be worth a viewing. The former director of the community mental health clinic would share the nature of the research showed part of the problems we face are related back to the coffee. To really sleep and rest well, when the circadian rhythm gets out of whack…. what more can be said, in the efforts to understand how and why the qualities of light in motion are reflected most in the senstive lives of people. How the communities think there is a need to work 24/7 is beyond my ability.

  • From this morning’s Courier-Journal – “The Courier Journal is tracking each fatal incident to better understand violence in the city and memorialize the victims….This list is preliminary, and the number of homicides can change as authorities investigate the circumstances of each case, determining whether the slaying was criminal, justified, accidental or suicide. The Courier Journal has excluded cases deemed accidents, suicides, fatal overdoses or hit-and-run deaths.”

    If one is trying to show the linkages to the public, the readers of various news services, then why do we shy away from the source of the violence, to shy away from the causalities by which suicides can happen? To ignore and not discuss how and why a regard for the health across the community is important shows cracks in the analytics in the daily reporting?

    How to address the issues? If one carves out the numbers and or the nature of aggregating data? Does the data become meaningless? Or monetized to ignorance?

  • Tim: With regards to the Dartmouth research (Indeed, research in the United States behind Dartmouth’s IPS (Individualized Placement Services) model of vocational rehab suggests that a self-directed effort to conform to work with support is a real way to achieve behavioral benchmarks), how and then why do you emrace filling a job slot, rather than questioning Voc Rehab’s general lack of understanding for what is required to create the space, that is even to realize the client to grow a business at the speed at which value and values are being created from the client perspective? What I am suggesting is a conscious effort to realize the creation of an economy shaped by many!

    The sheltered work programs or to fill a job, until that role plays out, does not really afford the stronger joy of being accepted in an active role within a sustained role in creating a community. A reading of Robert Reich’s new book, The System …(the former Labor Secretary under Clinton) identitifies part of the problems that have rigged the system.

    To appeal or struggle with a Rehab counseling experience too often diminishes the hopes and dreams of the applicants to being controlled under and by a pharma method, unless the client is able to find a doctor and team of people who will afford expert testimony, The Client Assistant Program can provide some legal assistance, though the attorney may be funded by the agency, thereby creating a conflict of interest.

    The necessity to know and manage numbers and relationships can occur, and be realized only in an economy that values citizens, regardless of the difference in thought or body form. Hence, to even go beyond the terms of “break with reality”, when in fact the realities that are disovered in altered states of knowing, discovering requires something better than a context of “social” control when the patient is really not being considered part of the social.

    To try and work in the realm of social policy, that affords a way not back into the norms of the state, but rather an inightful way to experience a more robust community for all requires insights learned … Many times the social worker is being caught in ethical burnout of not realizing the requisite resources to address liberation from driving the client into the wall. There is a political reality at work in what is you are conveying.

    Perhaps see the writings of former Berkeley Professor, Lynn Duhl and students work I think might have touched on Oakland. Fiinally, how to also apply the theory into what is being learned from within the marketplace of lower-tech (no or withdrawal from drugs) as legit way forward. Thanks for offering your ideas up! Keep on!

  • In reflecting about the experience of attending the Conference in Cleveland, I also recall taking the time to go out to Cleveland State University to visit with the legendary teacher, Norman Krumholz. See: . The definitive hearing before the U.S. Supreme Court that gave rise to zoning in Euclid, a small city within the Cleveland area, became a tool to advance racial segregation. See: Zoning is a type of zoning named,governmental power under the police powers of government. Zoning is a type of zoning named,governmental power under the police powers of government. or search Euclidean Zoning. Later, in trying to speak before the Jefferson County Planning Commission regarding the development of the Jewish Hospital, I would be told by the Planning Chair, “I don’t have to listen to you”. Today there is no longer a Jewish Hospital.

    If you take it a step further, and think of how space is shaped in communities, the density and the legal language that prohbits group homes, not in my back yard, the discussions become one filled with hate as the police powers of the state are exercised.

    In relocating to Louisville, to have been hired and fired as the Planning Manager for the Office of Economic Development, the city was destroying several small cities for the expansion of the airport for UPS. The largest relocation of over of 1500 families in the US and yet, the boundary lines of midnight air travel over areas couple with the hiring of the college students to work night shifts. What does this mean for mental and physical health, for within the last several months, research from Switzerland shows increased heart attacks of people who are awakened in the night by air traffic over their homes. In the probation period, my Boss had wanted me to prepare a city plan within two weeks, which I could not do. And in the ninth month of living in Louisville, a former pressman on Prozac whould realize a mass killing. Then the tainted trials and Peter Breggin would enter the story.

    Now, 30 years later, I live in public housing, across the street form the site of public housing that was torn down and being rebuilt where the Black Sub-contractors are claiming foul in that they are not being paid for their work as the change orders and quality of craftsmanship are being reported. And the density is increased. Hence, where is the money being created in a community that the banker, the Mayor, and the religous think they are Pegasus, worthy of being doped up? Or Brenona Taylor being killed? In trying to find an attorney through the local Bar or even the ACLU, no one would ever emerge to address the injustice. And time would be spent, after receiving the advocacy awards with AG Reno on the platform, traveling to D.C. to her office where one would once again be directed to other departments within the hiercharcy of laws and attorneys, that seem not to understand our language or the causalities.

    If these pages are addressing the Science, Psychiatry and Social Justice, then where is the language and understanding that accompanies the practice of the Liberal Arts, for I believe We can much if the threads are examined for continuity and integrity.

  • Thank you for the interview. Though in the past week in participating with the Maudsley organization from England, then watching the documentary on Washington through Kanaopy, the idea of what was happening in mental health care during the time of Rush’s treatment of George Washington. To accept the issue as a disease in terms of maladjustment, the hatred that we learn that can be carried within us, against our very being/becomeing a better human requires from within our movement a certain openess to the uncertainty being created vis-i-vis the dital platform, while reserving time to dis-connect from this way of sharing information. I do recall the time of traveling to Cleveland where P&A would help us get there, to have presented with a man from Gallaudet, and then the chance to have lunch with Mrs. King. I had not budgeted for the meal, and the organizers accomodated us with box lunches stacked up on the tables back in at the hotel. How do we advance our conferencing, our learning, if the systems are in place are being allowed to discriminate by withholding credit, the chance to not just fill a job, but to go and create some maladaptive economies that are soul driven? Interview stimulates more questions, hopefully some better qualities of life for all!

  • Very good reporting! Though my understanding of what governs the broadcast and the mainstream when the work MAD is realizing is more akin to the fresh, spring waters where the pro out weighs the anti-. From a marketing perspective, to be anti- anything is difficult when what I am and have been asking for is justice. Too, while you cite the studies, where are the studies, that we as patients have exercised, been willing and unwillilng subjects to the requirements of the systems of care only to emerge from this nightmare that is referred to as treatment? Just because we have not published in scholarly journals or realized the careers along the mainstream, does not devalue our struggle; rather we are being called to rise up! To create our groove. To add to the music! The comments along with the insightful articles are strenghtning my heart and hopefully the beat, not to mention that the Heart as artificact was crafted at the Artkansas Arts Center between completing the graduate degree and the committment to the Arkansas State Hospital under the Governor, Bill Clinton.

  • More than the books, we need JUSTICE! Would you know the meds that Martha Mitchell was forced on? For then the role of raw political power, location and the performance of space occurs. And what Hollywood can do with a story or an actor/actress may not be as interested in the Justice, the atonement that is needed in areas of the country that have contributed to the Sorrow! The fine grain of film and now the conceptual beyond the pixel, should be raising many questions of how and why children, if not adults are growing wires out of their ears? Or minds? Or we crazy to be affirming this type of parenting? Or commerce?

  • Does it make a difference to correct a post? For in trying to convey my perception, the reality of what has happened, to realize a better precision is more than an edit button. For there seems to be a little more of recall, as in memory, while sorting through the verb of yesterday. LOL, New Albany is across the Ohio River from Louisville, while Albany, New York is the Capitol to which NAHM would move. Their programming was phenomenal. In the Joy of our assembly, we began to understand a healing, though to be able to return to our homes, the receptivity may not have been able to adjust to our new insights by which one Life becomes and is being in awareness of LIFE.

  • Hi Micah:

    Am not sure if the socioecological can realize a tacit knowledge without reference to include what seems to be a nonspoken presence of the techno in the systems. Though dated, the impact of Tavistock’s research from the Emery’s and Trist was specical about the quailty of work life. More to a structural shift, the sociologist from Binghampton University in New York would be Immanual Wallerstein. In the journey, time was spent trying to reach him on the campus, where upon driving up to the guard office, the security gave me a campus map, and pointed out to me how the ring road, outlines the campus with the shape of the brain. LOL. This side trip was realized while traveling to a National Artists for Mental Health (NAHM) see Frank Marquit and Ralph Avery who pioneered that operation in NY to understand the struggles of a viable non-profit swallowed eventually in the politics of New Albany. At that time, the organization was still located in Catskill. Finally, I would ask of your interests, how you choose to leave out the Planning Profession, part of which can include the niche of “Health Planning”?

  • Strangely, i would recover at home, with a cast on my leg while being introduced to Lithium in the late 70’s. Fieve’s book was referenced but the idea of a legitimate alternative was never offered, being that in the doctor’s notes I would later read, “Worst case experienced”. The reinforcemed beliefs from within our family was not always about empowering behavior through logic. Rather, the sheer force/fear of a parent releasing punishment would drive one into a space to endure the hurt, the pain and suffering.

    Ironically, I would be transfer to Waterloo to study Regional and Resource Planning and having worked off the meds by the early part of ’82, became a customer in the mental ward of the KW hospital on King Street. You might have even monitored or known some of the people aligned with the University, as more progress was made from working with the Gestalt Therapist along with having a wonderful mentor, who was extraordinarly helpful in encouraging that I return to Waterloo to complete the degree. My physician uncle would over rule any decision making on my part, the campus doctor would also push the idea of getting back on meds, so as I surrendered to their thinking (I can’t say acquiesced) then the idea became, “What if one comes apart in awares, while trying to understand the nature of a mind, struggling with disordering and ordering thoughts?” more along the lines of reporting back to others afterwards the logic that was being framed then as “The Self-Organizing Universe”.

    Compared to what I would eventuially experience returning to home, was a system of care that was not as sensitive aas to what I had experienced in Canada. The Human Rights Charter seemingly was written better or so it seemed than the civil rights laws that were being developed a the time.

    Now, the home has become more susceptibile it seems to a digital currency that is churning on keeping energized the digital while not realizing the impacts of economies shaped by a pharma, that was licensed and dispensed without understanding the ecological impacts. How can this be addressed, now? Through any of the studies at the Perimeter Institute, of comprehending where minds in wonder are trying to make sense of the Whole Life?

    Thanks for your sharing and explorations of even attempting a better way to realize health care.

  • See the documentary “Slavery by Another Name”. Blackmon attended Hendrix College where I would attend and watching this film, then if you view our legacy and the need to go beyond reparations, but also justice needs a major lever. I applaud your work and continue to create the links by which we can realilze a challenge but also the deepest healing for what has happened and is happening.

  • Since this featrued news item emerged, considerable effort was spent searching the original document and then contacting Science to understand how to create an appropriate response. Science letters allow for a letter of 300 words along with the attempt to draft an individual/collaborative response can occur. Contrary to Luiggi-Hernandez’s conclusion, I do not think the article provided clear and ample evidence between poverty and the creaton of diagnoses for depression…” Over 80 years ago, Kroll would write an autobiography, I Was a Sharecropper, where Maw would cry out, “Poverty warps all standards”. In the 80’s a visit with Donald Schon of MIT’s Planning Program, suggested a reading of Jorg Baumberger’s article in the Journal of Evolutionary Economics about Thomas Kuhn’s thesis on the Paradigm Shift. All the disciplines had cleared the hurdle except for Economics. Too, Lepowski’s article, “The Social Thermodynamics of Ilya Prigogine” in ’79 issue of Chemical and Engineering News also featured the Vanderbilt Economist, Gerogescu-Roegen advancing a an analytical context for qualitative economics. This approach is far different from the thought process driven by quantities of services.

    Further, from my direct involvement in the attempt to realize economic development by, for and within the X-Disability movement, time would be spent at conferences of the Association for Economic Opportunity, Alternatives, and even traveling to hear the Grameen Bank Founder, Mohammed Yuunus. Some of the readers might remember Mimi Kravitz’s effort of In-Cube in NYC in trying to develop businesses owned and operated by those who survived the mental health “treatments”.

    In addition, one would learn of Edgar Cahn’s concept of time banking, where one could realize a trade of skill for skill as a unit of time through a community organization. My costs could never be monetized for I could not understand how to factor in the expense of discrmination being experienced from outside of our immediate culture. When financial leaders tell you in response to a fundraising effort, “The Government takes care of the handciapped” in three minutes, there is no way to realize the creation of a more stable economy by which a legitimate economy can emerge that is shaped by our voices.

    The situation is even made more absurd in the egoic expression of the elected Mayors and councilpersons, who off camera humiliate and dismiss self and others for fear of a threat to their political advancement due in part to homogenization towards a norm of spoken diversity that can not reflect value with values.

    Hence, this article I believe only scratches the surface of the discourse around supply and demand in the markets from a quantitative perspective. When I believe our experiences are of a language of supra-rich qualities that are filtered out and ignored by the metrics invoked by the anlytics of the profession.

    Thus, to realize at times the mutal approvals of this page without going back to the source documents, leaves at risk the perpeutal convresation that is occurring in the rooms without us being present. For me, part of my challenge is trying to learn how to write a response to articles like this one, that essentially is saying, “Our House in On Fire” in the language of the Academy.

    And finally, one last resource studied from within planning was Ian McHarg’s Design with Nature. Systematically, the facets of a city would be mapped by data even to include a final chapter on Health and Pathology. The term “Mental Disease” was established only from information on psychiatric inpatient unduplicated admissions and similar inforemation for children. Could the concentration of responses in the core of the city been shaped more by data gleaned from public institutions versus a different, more confidential operations of medical care reserved for middle and upper classes of wealth? The Scales of Justice” need to reflect our role as Citizens of the We.

  • I would attend the infamous Central High in Little Rock, 67-70. My sophomore year, my older brother would venture to Madison, in a week long student exchange with reciprocity. In the junior year, as a journalism student, I would write a letter to the Tiger wondering how come we couldn’t realize a student exchange. The response now from the student council representative, was one regarding race. The riots that began to occur creating an unspoken language that goes along with the struggle. Oddly, upon recovery at home a visit to a family friend who also had sought out help from the psychiatric profession would share with me his experience with the medical doctor. He walked away and never took the medications. And yet, I would experience being and becoming a part of those who thought differently, but whom seemed to require a coraling of the mind. The idea of “counter-culture” might need to be examined, when in fact if one is able to access people who can and will talk about their experiences may not have surfaced, not so much a product of being counter, but rather one of trying to realize a more truthful journey. We perhaps even have difficulties with understanding the culture of e-connectivity and how this act is forging a challenge to those who think they are empowered to lead, follow or getting the hell out of the way. When murder occurs directly or indirectly as experienced in the recent D.C. Fiasco, how come an attorney will not emerge to advance the arguments to rule in favor of LIFE? Niice work Sears!,

  • The American Psychological Association (APA) revised Robert’s Rule’s of Order. To understand the importance for deliberative thinking in the creation of laws, and the speed at which the rule making body attempts to process, while being manipulated by vested interests, then how do our citizens and non-citizens create a better sense for governance? The operations as we witnessed is not as secure as one would like to think, though the structure is symbolic and important space to experience. To forge healing words or words that inflame, seems to be the challenge our adolescent country faces.

  • Pretty Abstract?

    For me, the greater, perhaps even the heighented state of “awakening” from the depression slow dive that occurred over months, where upon after consultation with the literal family doctor, one Saturday morning in the summer of ’76, explanations were given by the Dr. along with the admonition “to go out and live like there was no tomorrow”.

    About four months laters, the mania experience was being realized. These concepts of how our thinking can awaken, at different speeds, is indeed a window into the abstraction of the construct by which we begin to define ourselves. So many times, when the phrase is made, “this is not rocket science”, when in the presence of the computing and analog world that makes the engagement vis-i-vis a machine, then we begin to become aware of multiple abstractions, shifts in thinking and even an emergent language for the age that is being framed as socio-technical systems.

    Regarding the Alternatives Conference, to have witnessed was an experience that literally afforded me 1) a ballroom to meet a whole bunch of people just like me and 2) a visit to Indepence Hall and the Liberty Bell. Indepence Hall was shut down due to the brief feud between a former neighbor, (about a block and 1/2) Bill Clinton and Newt Gingerich. Perhaps because I saw democracy, time would be spent the past week sending a letter to the Congressman whose office is not far from Independence Hall in an effort to realize a more profound future, regardless of whatever labels and traumatic experiences I have encounterd at the local, state and national level.

    So with regards to today, and that of the events that contributed to the recent organizational chaos of our House of Democracy, then understand the importance of how we heal while sttriving to rise again, again and again through our representative forms of democracy.
    The workings of Alternatives as well as the visits to Brown’s Office have all been a way of trying to communicate and channel our individual and collected concerns into our goverance of self-determination.

    The systems that are working to afford the citizenry a way to awaken surely were inspired this day, perhaps as much by the voice of the young poet from Los Angeles.

    Finally in a bit of irony, out of the 70’s/80’s an article would appear in the American Planning Association Journal that conveyed a Requiem for Large Scale Planning Models. Douglas Lee might have been the author. The point, and perhaps an affirmation for the issue to “medical model” language I’ve beeen hearing for 50 years, is that policy makers began to advance the term of scenario planning. Along with a more resilent management style. Though as we know, the whole experience of being processed into “recovery” is what I would have to call as pretty abstract to an outsider. Learning how to write, speak and create a bridge language seems to be for me a challenge from the heart to your heart as well as others who might choose to ponder and meditate. One thing for certain, our work is cut out for us.

    Finally, can you please elaborate on your vision for how to cleanse the thinking aligned with medical models? For to be frank about it, the past, the trauma still creeps in, and people will say to me, “You are living in the past”. When in fact, part of what Jenny has given us (along with many others) is a piece of our history; a history that is liberation in more ways than I can count.

    Thank you for your request, please advise if this did not clarify while also raising some more points.

  • Political leaders? Or Politicized operational systems? And how to recover and access the rocketry when it blows up due to a culture that suppressed the early warning signals in our culture? In essence, can one use the words, “indirect murder”? Or what insubordination means in the personnel file?

  • In trying to realize my homework, I would ask the relevance of an analysis that can integrate the subjective with the objective organiztional and individual thinking, as in being typed or spoken, or in front of an academic crowd. For the concerns being voiced, where is the prognosis of how information beind revealed on this site, could be or is being picked up and shared around the world?
    Do elaborate more on what constitutes “objective criteria” in the bought space of the thinking ethical levels in and outside the WH? To have perceived for a need to wear a “White Coat” into a meeting, that had not been approved by those involved, was not representative of the flag of surrender, but rather an early warning signal to the complexities of our failure to communicate?

  • Did you consider Trump dangerous from a distance through any media or casino/real estate perspective? Or just the context by which he was making decisions over his life? And if you are saying the “known data” or just saying potentially, “know thy data”, do you “get it”? And then how to realize a difference between a digitizing world and the analog as experienced within cultures?

  • Thanks Jim, Jenny for opening us up to our history. Ironcially, as I shared the the post from George Ebert in the from the newspaper in the librrary, with friends who work for SAIC, then the post surfaced how George’s life had ended. And yet, by shariing these stories, regardless with one occuppied Brown’s Office, the brutality of how one can be disregarded for thinking differently remains important. And George’s story and George perhaps is kept alive in the spirit of profound advocacy.

    From the grant ATAK/Mi (Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Againt Mental Illness) the printer would switch the term to Mental Health in our handbills to read “Advocates Taking Action in Kentucky Against Mental Health”.

    So what are we fighting?

    When so many say, “Well, I am not political?” (That statement, as in my writing is by nature a reflection of a politic from within.) Then there is also, the time our organziaiton would assist with evaluations of the mental hospitals around the state. In one of the site visits to Western State Hospital in Bowling Green I thought I could learn something about the operation or visit with other patients by going to the cafeteria for breakfast prior to our day’s work.

    When I went up to the serving line to ask for something else, the security guard would be watching and came up and said to me, “That you know you are not supposed to have more” or something to that effect. In terms of security then and now with camera eyes everywhere or the potential by govenrment to monitor those deemed to be on their lists, how do we create healthier curiosity and economies by which we are part of the answers?

    In our exist interview, with hosptial staff, the shame of what happend imparted testimony to the brutality of the care in a hospital operating from a different era.

  • Oldhead et al: First, from having been shaped quite early in part by history, I wonder about your phrase “Get’s It”. For often I have been stopped and others ask me, “What is the It”. In attending Little Rock Central High, time was spent taking a journlism class, and working the camera as a hobby in photography was developing. Charles Lance, the teacher would ask us when we were working on “Letters to the Editor” about signing one’s name to the letter.

    The other time I would hear clearly the context of “He gets it” was in a brief visit with the head of Ducks Unlimited. Those who love and appreciate the design of Nature, know the value of a cricket, whether in terms o validating, echoing, or even pondering how much power is there in being in the moment requires from each of us. There is something I believe quite fascinating in how ecologies are interwoven to the extent we can learn to not repeat in the present what we have and are learning from the past.

    There is no question is my mind, the value for documenting history; seemingly a good historian sifts out for what really happened in the past, to bring the story to the surface. If there is a concern or comittment to write the history of this unique movement, what or how were the actors communicating in code or in a way the power differential was and can be challenged, such that the awakening can occur to what happened and is happening?

    Writing, posting, blogging, youtubing…. are impacting the message that seemingly needs to be conserved? Or preserved? For one becomes aware of the extent of the injustices that are occurring when one begins to understand the case by case in the context of the broader issues.

    I think, I understand the cocnerns voiced about Alternatives and the political struggles which I would witness at that level. The question in part I believe, now and even then as in the past, is how did and can any movement create a viable currency? The monetization by which MIA operates or the Madness Network News effected the change? Then and Now?

    If our thinking is becoming better in knowing the self, then how is the context held that recognizes the value and values for being different in a civil manner?

    Will look forward to your reply…. And thanks, even if you do not reply. Silence is important, also in the movement of thinking.

  • We need to know our history! From the Alternatives and NARPA Conferences, insight would be gained into the unique way of working towards developing our politics. By comparison, would you have a way to realize the history that was emerging in the 49 other states? For just because we live in other locations, does not mean an injustice is not happening. I recall meeting Howie-the-Harp, Sally Zinman, and Jay Mahler while also learning of Leonard Frank if not countless others who impacted our lives in Kentucky. In viewing the marquee, and in part because of the way I would experience “the treatment”, the medicating is not limited to the psychiatrists.

    Several years ago I would acquire a publication from the American Enterprise Institute where data had been graphed. I could not understand how they could map the population in hospitals as being “inmates”. And yet now, perhaps even more so, the amount of misinformation creates more barriers. For within the last four years time would be spent driving over to Arkansas to participate in a discussion by people who were trying to intervene in the execution of several who been labeled as “the mentally ill”. And so, in going by the Governor’s Office, the response would be the realization of being escorted out the State Capitol by Security.

    Do we have a collective library, a repsository for the papers, booklets, papers that will show the struggle and then how can the protests help transform our self-determination into a healthier understanding for what life means to being human? And then my last question, “Would you know the name of the Art Museum in San Francisco?

  • Should the title of the paper been “Surviving While Being Made Negligible”? To understand the structure of the biologies also needs integration with the ecologies by which imaginations sift out the truth or the various a truths. Then variation and purest chance imaginable that challenges the prevailing logic can be articulated to the hears and eyes and senses that are ready. Experiments and studies without bias becomes a basis for an awakening to what the medical establishment has been doing for years. Perhaps a question posed to those surveyed might have been, “Have you ever left a psyciatrist office without being offered or given a prescription?” Is the sound and presence of the madness tied into the “Ka-Ching, Ka-Ching” of the cash register to advance supply and demand while ignoring health”? Oh, excuse me, the slide the card, insert the chip, as the genderless of technologies valueless or valuemore our lives? Do those around you begin to come forward in love or are they stirred up to hate? And if so, where does that emotion emerge in these studies?

    Is the madness is in the murders where family and agents liscened to keep laws and order have a fealty to the orders rather than the principles articulated in the employment papers. Yet, with only a right side and left side of the brain (as “normally thought”, the actions still seem to be giving the orders that fail to detox. The purpose of LIFE seems to be made into sausage through an anticiapted revenue streams for the malignments of power.

    Can you map the energy expended in solving this equation of inequality?

  • Re: Negative Comments click to article about medications, “Why do psychiatric patients stop antipsychotic medication? A systematic review of reasons for non-adherence to medication in patients with serious mental illness” would the insights gained be different if first the question were from a position of “How….”. The “Why” often triggers a defensive response to the inquistion that begins to occur, in terms of power, if not positional authority. II wonder how MIT for example along with Harvard, drives the research at the Broad Institute while discouraging the customers a more direct role in the annual or biannual conference that discusses the nature of their research looking for the cause?

  • Ayurdhi:
    or Dr. Dhar, which is your preference from the emergent culture of Mad in America and “Mad in America” but perhaps beyond the political borders?

    Could you explore the idea of beliefs held? (And while I would like to say belief systems, the very idea of a system has advanced in a way that faciliates learning along with being too easy to codify in terms of open or closed to the detriment of a richer reality that we struggle to understand.

    When you write about challenging “psychiatry’s fundamental ideal about normality” the door into the expression being realized visually in the article can be overwhelming in part because of the range of rich beliefs held with the gods so to speak. If one enters into the vast refereed papers, the stats and correlations, etc. then what, if the emerging situation is being framed in part by the technologies that broadcast the story, but then an understanding for the hi and low of an engineered world driven often by “more” rather than better.

    What does the term “mass psychogenic illness” impart to a mind(s) trying to understand a speed of learning by which people are coming to know an evolving culture being challenged? To hold a thought, to release others and still to let go as we work through these experiences suggest to ask the question, if indeed the individuals who travel into these altered states will not eventually emerge as the teachers? Seemingly in a like manner, have been given “a collar” so to speak, that is a labe”, I thought perhaps there might be a way to enter my madness or the experience, with a purpose to come back and attempt to explain what was experienced.

    However, the results whether medicated or not along with a way of coping, seemingly has been dismissed, until I began to focus and shift more towards the Arts. I can’t help but think that in framing the study of adolescents, if there if violence in the framing that excluded a question of the adults impacted within and beyond the families. How could one(s) transform the space to sift the meaning, not that something is being learned now? Or in the NOW?

  • If you look at Simon’s article calling out Stanford and Davidow’s article about Jill Biden to reference the article about the Academy’s impact by viewing the disciplines contributing to an economy, the chances of shiftiing the thinking to realize a healthier community become plain when one views the emergent stories in context to the heart and airport noise

    For we moved to Louisville, Ky in ’89 when UPS was expanding with their hub that triggered the largest relocation of homes along with the destruction of small cities in the US at this time. I would travel to D.C. to meet with the staff of the FAA being that we would hear the noise at night. Klonopin would be prescribed to address the sleep issues. (And later I would quit cold turkey that resulted in the most painful headache one could imagine.)

    To think the local university students are afforded tuition reduction and nighttime employment if they work at UPS might feed into the research study at the New York Academy of Science that was about Cancer, Circadian Rhythm and Light suggests some signifant issues for research that requires precision and orietation towards scholarship if one values LIFE of a community.

    Truly our challenge is difficult, perhaps more so in a city that headquarters Humana, Horse Racing and Distillieries for everyone generally enjoys the party at the moment. But if We are ignoring the early warning signals, the canaries in the Mine and Minds, then who are we kidding?

    How can one or one plus two or more change the course of humanity as the local politics would silence questioning while the local banker would tell me the government takes care of the handicapped while dismissing me with the question, “Have you saved the world yet?”. First, I was having to understand the plight of those impacted by forces that shaped our mental health and then to understand the strange world of politics that would take me into Janet Reno’s Office. Enough said?

  • Sera:
    Do you have a problem with power imbalances? To confront the injustice? The concerns being addressed seemingly are focused on the quantity rather the qualities by which power, empowerment can be realized as a challenge to be understood? Or released through empowering work relationships. Being this is work (which may need to be rexamined conceptually), when do the scales move or do they in a balanced imaginary world (if there is a way to recongize a shift in understanding/learning that will afford common ground)?

  • To type an argument or to hear an argument is more than semantics. Typing is not a conversation, as we have known but a different form of word search, to attempt to find a word that even fits the silence of a keyboard that may not be so beautiful as a typewritter. In someways, to assume “We all have an array ….” to me identifies a false assumption. Many may not or do not have an array, in a world that assumes everyone thrives on connecting into the machine. Texting, typing, zooming, etc. is not the same as having a front porch conversation where one really gets to converse. To talk about power, as in political or social, or to underand what matter is made of as a structural challenge is mind boggling and very difficult for any conversation.

    But I think to say “You should …..” can be just misleading. Each one of us is challenged to forge our way in a world that can be brutal, though questionable more so about the extent and recognition for “Rights”.

    Thank you for taking the time to comment. I would rather engage in person, as to learn how to speak in a forum, which I have realized at times, is physically becoming maybe more on the edge. What I have wondered and increasingly so, is how so many think they can get away with murder? For in the collective since, we die one at at time, though our situations can be occurring directly as well as indirectly form issues that evolve from abuse. The brains along with the beutiful thinking by which we attempt recovery need a better way to affirm we are human, no different from the “higher levels”…

    Further to understand the role of education as perceived and being articulated by which a motto might be aspired to, to begin to learn about the power of thinking, even thinking about thinking can be a real challenge.

    Too, if language itself is concretized, when accessibilty is yet to be chisled out of the reality(s) held that keep certain people from entering the temples of exchange (assumming we are entering a knowledge based economy), then at what point or how does one discover the markets by which applied thinking and conceptual are received and validated?

    Could the thinking be skewed to think that psychistrists are the only ones prescribing psychiatric medcines? Would you rather just pull a directory of names from a shelve or google that suggests presence without reference or clue to who might have stronger qualities for working in certain realms?

    As regards to the process of being incarcerated against our will, to experience that process, there can be many players. To go before the judge, who may not be an LLD, withou to much comprehension of medicine, the tragic nature of meeting a public defender for 5 minutes before a hearing when one is medicated to where the words do not come easily is a bit of a problem that needs to be addressed.

    With reference to the aunts and uncles and so on, though perhaps strange, imagine what is means for a child to experience their relatives first as Uncles and Aunts, as an address of respect or should you do away with that reference? For to grow from being a child who experiences cousins with parents who practiced in the medical community were more than a “Dr.”. With an education or not?

  • How come there is not more discussion on the role Voc Rehab role in our skewed recovery? For if one becomes labelled, the ability to mask one’s behavior that still can surface, can be a challenge to guide. And if one can not become familiar with how to monetize or be monetized, then to stand for what is ethical may costs a great deal (like a career, a marriage, a role by which social justice becomes a fringe item, when a greater agitator is needed for the content of the emergence of character.

  • You would not believe the trouble of trying to get a haircut in downtown Louisville. I didn’t grow bald but the language used when I would request a cease and desist, woud just keep coming. Perhaps one might experience a blood letting again? There are certain rules that go along with the Barbers and then there were the rules that were broken in the recent social protests. Too much broken glass and hardening of attitudes in search of the how and why for a more peaceful city.

  • Interesting Post, though if I had been in your training class in 2012, the observation would be made and the question raised regarding the use of the word, “Trainer”. In the past the term was used while studying labor in a Master’s Program and my mentor would correct me, to offer that one educates a human being, that one the other hand, one trains monkees. Trying to learn the nomenclature of a different profession requires a great deal of effort if one is wanting to really enter the conversation, either in writing, speaking or just being present to the discourse. Within the family experience, there were several aunts and uncles. From your logic, would you suggest all prefixes be tossed? For in understanding a healthy conversation, that embraces the other(s) while carrying on, may not be as tied to the institutions that sanction with diplomas, but rather the degree(s) of intimacy by which one gaines insight into LIFE. Please elaborate more on how and why one “should” rather than “shall” follow your philosophy as oppossed to another?

  • To honor Julie’s Spirit during Hanukka seems the right thing to light! First, there is, even when one is placed on a Disability Income, the citizen is a citzen is citizen. However, within the language of disability, the citizen begins to learn of the costs of political boundaries, more even the space that remains designed for able-bodied, able-minded, when I think as we study, LIFE written as a verb of ebbs and flows, is quite intelligent. Even currency is expanded or contracted in an effort to stay attached to the production or ordering/disordering. Pay, whether it be to a single employee, a organization or level of government, seemingly remains the more conflicted story, for there are many situations where people have taken advantage of a program to walk off with the money, while inflating, double billing even the healthcare. See the story of Vencor and note! How does one realize audits that reveal, before a company or non-profit collapses? If we are serious about soical justice, then how do We create the movement? Whether receiving disabiliity income, no income, or creating the currency by which justice for all can be realized? see: and

  • In 1977, I would discover Elie Wiesel in Conversation With Harry James Cargas. At one point, Wiesel discusses the concept of the opposite of love is not hate, but indiffernce. The passage goes on to relate how in teaching in a NYC grade school, the students were to debate on the idea that Eichmann should be executed. One defense tactice stated the charges as outlined were incorrect, “Six million Jews were not killed. Only four million were.” As he goes on to relate the story, “This was a Christian, denominational school. INDIFFERENCE!

    Hence, to have been challenged to speak up throughout my life, about the injustice that runs rampant in the systems of care? In politics? If one witnesses the injustice of even losing one life beyond their own in the course of mental health care, then how will our conversation begin to convey the serious nature of what is happening?

  • If a website, or a group, and individual who has experienced the injustice of this bizarre care, along with the broader history of cover-up, then does one advance satire, (I had to look at Satire’s website to understand the nature of the reporting), do you think when the issue is one life lost to injustice, is Satire an appropriate vehicle to convey to the broader public the nature of our problem? As a standard of comparison, do you think Simon Wisenthal would have tried to use satire? Do you think Ruby Bridges would use satire? How can I/We expect a robust challenge for social justice, if the image becomes entangled with an Onion? Tears of the past are enough!

  • Micah et al: Re: “From these traits, Gipps argues that we can understand schizophrenia enactively. For example, if ego boundaries are created through autopoiesis, then it can help us understand how harmful emotional experiences and confusing bodily experiences, as in emotionally and physically intrusive early life situations, can contribute to a disturbed ego boundary:

    “For example, in the complex weave of emotional interactions between parent and teenager, the question of who is to blame for what is a difficult conversation, of ‘who started it,’ of what is and is not reasonable, will constantly be under tacit (and sometimes explicit) negotiation.”
    In situations where clear communication and clear understandings of self and other are absent, a disorganized ego boundary may result.”

    As I just finished re-reading the article again, the insights are more profound that one would “normally” realize. For in working on the MFA in Chicago in the summer of 2018, I went into Target to shop and noticed a stand for Koval Bourbon sampling. Three ladies were there and we got to visiting. And so, as we figured out where each were from, she from Arkansas, then from Little Rock, then Oak Street, then the street number!!!!! LOL, she and her husband had bought the house from my Mother. And then she said, are You Billy, for my name seemingly was carved into the front door on the inside. And she explained how my Mother showed her through the house adding the stories that went with raising her children and keeping the house together. Having an older Brother and two younger ones, I explained to her, that I thought it might have been my older brother who inscirbed my name on the inside of the door. Which my Mom would share with us about the earliest stages of how we began to speak. Hence, when Mom was trying to figure out “Who did it?” and my older brother would say, point the finger at me, or perhaps verbalized Billy did it, then my mouth spoke the first words, “He did it”. And the story of suprise, sibling rivialry began towards creating the challenge for moderating of an edge, of concsious and unconscious in the development of a tiny human being.

    The context is even before teenager years!

    Today, I realize these signature marks are no less than the type shaped by Ghiberti. For the entrance into our house was special, though at times venturing into a unique tempo. Just for the record, and fact of the case, the German Cuckoo Clock kept sending forth the bird to chirp when the older brother decided to try out his throwing art with a potato. The clock ceased to cuckoo after fallling from its perch, though time would later be investigated along with the exploration of the bellows.

    Hence, how do We begin to harmonize our voices to identify for others what is cuckoo and not within behavior? Too many brothers have wrestled with each other or create family feuds by which even Wars are started or hips dislocated. And while we could see “Big Rock”, the area on which the Veterans Hospital sits in North Little Rock from the front porch, I can say today that I am grateful that generally speaking, I have rested my head more often than not on a pillow than on a rock.

    Perhaps We, a people and this addition to your article can help with understanding what happens in the effort to understand what begins to happen in the gap of the dis-organizing boundaries of human development, spoken, observed and data commodified.

    I think the situation may begin much earlier as to how the awareness for beauty, play as work evolve.

    Along with the fireworks and Ah-ahhhhhhh!

  • OLdhead: Learning to write and punctuate by the rules can be something all of us strive for. To write “schizophrenia” quoting from your line which names and references the point you are making is important. If part of the struggle we face is to realize justice while healing, then having the “language” of that moment of where the horrors and injustice of a forced medication against our will is difficult to realize and write/speak the truths to empowerment. Where is the boundary of “schizoprenia” if there are those of us that know the meaning of “Never Forget”, “I will not forget you”. Many have perished and many more have been and are being placed on the medications without appropriate or alternative modalities of care offered. Thus, are we challenged to bring into existence, better protocals for care and intervention?

  • Miranda:

    How does one distinguish the difference in the semantics of spoken words and then written words of different languages? For in the struggle to articulate what a thought is trying to convey, while in a different realm of thinking, the capacity to be aware, self aware to engage with a psychiatrist or a panel of psychiatrists is problematic. To understand further, the beauty of thought, thinking, as in the Artistry, that we can convey and be with, there seems to exist a need to edit out an expression that rests from the individual who is trying to speak/communicate an idea? Would you say even that framing a problem is also problematic, if the underlying issue(s) might be masked?

  • To retract or not, is that the question? To create history or erase history, is that the question? For to understand the development of a human, at what point will the better information be in place for the individual to realize the implications for the pursuit of happiness? Or, from the breadth and depth of the acquired knowledge and understanding that is recorded in the postings, then at what point will the rivers of insight release an awakening for restorative justice? Will law be the necessary arbiter of justice or will the insights shared create a different expression unimaginable at the moment, though never the less one potential way forward (or backward)…. whatever….. Thanks for your insights ……and raising the expecatations…

  • Micah: As I read your post this morning, at the Louisville Free Public Library on the last day of being able to read “Jimmy Warde’s Experiences as a Lunatic” who would be a patient in what was then called “The Arkansas Lunatic Asylum”, the questions arise:

    Have you considered where the ego-boundary resides in a socio-technical system, where each letter beting typed into the keyboard, sends a message through an e-system that is oscillating in time, to hold data in place? Or is that really so?

    Being that you are in Georgia, have you ever wondered over to the University of Georgia’s Ecology Program that was started by Eugene Odum. How ecosystems are understood is articulated in a beautiful and informed manner from within, by Gregory Bateson. The Ecology of the Mind might have had a better title if it read “The Ecologies…. Bateson would experience alcoholism and that aspect might have contributed to some of the struggle, though in Maps of the Mind, his map would be diagrammed as if his thinking were that of a locomotive with governor; the idea is the fuel and the movement into the thought as motion were somehow linked. But know we know the brain is much, much more complex. Hence, to frame the more creative, the most creative state that is bewildering and frightening, as the reality(s) can change so quickly within, how and why must the customer be forced into a space, that is devoid of an aesthetics, is void of learning, but rather is one of survival? The injection and speed at which the meds are forced along with the initial shock of the hospital or even a visit to the doctor, is not a space where the concept of boundaries are understood by one being introduced into the fragmented language and world of a medical practice. What can be realized as a path of self-improvement?

    Another question that is occurring when you discuss “group-conducted interventions” might be problem creating? For if one thinks of our race, not too different from the interlock rings of the Olympics, then what happens with the concept of competition, that as Deming realized can be destructive within the organization. But what happens if our culture tends towards the competitive nature in the consciousness, unconsciousness as we learn how rich and varied thinking can be, if only held? “Potentially understood as an expression not in stone, nor even as “stable” as the professional therapist might like? But in teaching one how to discern peace, create a career, and not be lost or considered as an arrogant type, then the idea of what might be lost is found as similar to that pearl in the field. Is the lustre not beautiful, to learn how the inner eye sees more clearly, while finding a word or two for the moment? is this not what you are saying, so to speak, but from a different experience.

    Now to discover the a last moment with Warde:

    (pg. 98, “Well, this young man who said those words to me was the son of a Baptist Minister who first baptized me. I gave myself up to the men immediately. The words of the young man made an impression on me at that moment which meant a great deal to me.

    I have often thought about it since, for those words were the most fitting at the moment of any words that could have been uttered)”

    In closing, I also am thinking about this as I type, but to have also read James Cone’s book, “The Cross and the Lynching Tree”, what stays in the memory was his comment that the asylum was more feared than the lynching tree.

    To understand one’s individual psyche, to explore self, to understand fear, as one would move around in all the rooms of space, within and outside of the body, but as an active mind. while pausing, reflecting, “seeing” the inner eye as being different from the visual eye, such the whole of body attempts to recover, then what sort of therapeutic sessions can emerge that will command attention?

    Even when nation states have bullied their way, the human that fails to stand for justice seemingly at some point will need to atone, not just for self, but for the lives and families who may have not understood, that to speak up, to ease down or up, the speed of a thought is really a joy to realize, perhaps more through the Arts? But also, in how the pure science can be framed.

    In this sense, Warde’s experience and the many others may be a reason for change that is meaningful.

  • What sort of currencies can we expect in response to the Injustices, perhaps also to address the times we would expire prematurely? The requisite change seemingly can occur from with, as well as outside of the (me?) to include the change and experience of the “We”, as in the People. Incredible patience on our part throughout history?!!!

    So much to study, learn and share?!

  • As I finish reading “Jimmy Warde’s Experience as a Lunatic” written in 1905, from being a patient in then what was called, “The Arkansas Lunatic Asylum”, I will leave the post with a quote from his autobiography, “The Place was enough to run any man crazy”.

    He realized his mind was unique though would become entangled; to understand the knowledge that has been created about how to improve mental health care, the experiences to understand, we are citizens, then who, what, when and where can we realize a “slight adjustment in understanding, our creative way of seeing and being in the world?”

  • At what point, then Irit, can the individual or the community say that murder is occurring, directly or indirectly? For if our lives are being shortened, or even terminated, where are the ethics that show problems with the rule of the law being ignored or the scales are being tilted by the money? the promise of monies through PACS? Bullying poised as Leadership? What sort of Justice can we expect in terms of 1), 2) 3)…..



  • The article and reference to the whole article is incredible. Thinking itself is Dangerous, which to understand how much we are thinking about the experience of being hospitalized is difficult to unpack. Thank the staff for sharing the reference. Then go to Hill’s homepage for an insightful presentation about the challenge to think, to realize, yes, the delivery and experience for better space, Could our individual and collective experience be some where between fact and fiction? For to understand just how strong, minds can be, to hold a thought, and revisit the space milliseconds later, within a context of exploring the dynamics of self, seemingly will afford a better way forward. The colorful ways we have thought, think and will think seemingly is the stuff we are made of, to see and experience the world. The ideological thinking seems to be a challenge not just for a mental hospital, but perhaps (?), you think a way forward in governance. Without a Pac nor a Pack? Fealty not to the individual but rather to the principles afforded in the documents.

  • In reading about the change that will occur within the Federal Communications Commission with the language of “light touch”, and being that the telephone is conveyed to be the image of choice by which one troubled with the idea of suicide, then at what point, does the heavy touch, the wrong routing of the neural networks having agency to invade the space on is living in? There seems to be room by which a legal intervention might intercede in the behalf of those who share these stories where “suicide hotlines” operate.

  • The reason I would ask, is that I discovered a video on Kanopy, which our local library affords us 5/month. “California Typewriter” is more than being about typewriters, but rather a window into the creative process. Even Tom Hanks is in the story. Part of writing, whether with pencil, pen, a paint brush, is to realize a certain comfort with the medium. So, a typewriter has space between the letters, which one begins to hear. The creative river that runs through all life and at various scales of relationship, affords a way to ease out of “the noise”, though even then to learn how understand the elements that contributed to our situation only require a resetting of one’s clock, filled with and shaped more by our choices that reflect the integration of the consciousness with the unconsciousness. Greater realities emerge from where the thought becomes articulated, and “re-read” the words, claiming increasingly the joy of the creative, authentic self. Hope that makes sense.

    When you think about all of the technologies that impact our thinking, then one can exercise even greater choice in the search!

  • Would you have any idea about the degree of the brain’s operation to nuanced levels of civil categories (race, sex, creed, gender and disability?) . For when one processes from the context of Robert’s Rules of Order, the dynamics by which an organization begins to realize “minority” and “majority” opinions shows healthier expressions through the gavel, IF the Chair is reading the movement appropriately. Then how and why doe the values, inculcated from the City of Brotherly Love transport to the culture of Boston? Structurally, the design of the space, the amount of energy being used to sift through cognitive decline/enrichment seemingly is tied to forces yet articulated, either through the theories or even modulated through the technologies being used to measure. What is your thinking on stressors that enhance the aging and those that negate the golden years?

  • Part of the challenge in reading the threads, is keeping in mind at what time was the post made and then, how is the balance inherent to learning, either being a + or – if one wishes to think along this line. But then mayber there is also a third way, too. When we go to see the therapist or MD the next time, will we be able to realize even a more profound engagement in the discussions?

  • Listening to the Bazelon Law Center Awards tonight while recalling the memories of the times I would travel to the Center trying to realize change; change to access while creating the future city mirrored to the Alternatives Conference in Philadelphia by Justine Dart. Later, I would hear Marca Bristo from Chicago, then going over to Senator Durbin Office while a student at the School of Arts Institute in Chicago. Something seems to be missing from the language, the action by which the financial community figures out our economy is worthy to have our presence on the train. At what point, will children, as they travel through their life be able to access the appropriate resources to shape the space that affirms LIFE?

  • Last night would discover through local library, Kanopy video, “Unmistaken Child”, about the Buddhist concept of reincarnation. The idea of sentience is quite important and at odds with the pharma story referenced above. With context also to a reading of InDeed, about Divine Wisdom in the chapter of Daniel 2 and Genesis 41:15-40 raises insights as to the relevance for the management of any organization and governance. How does one explain that the House Rules, though in a democracy that gave license to various businesses, when it comes to pharma, children and the lack of understanding for what is generating the problems I would think requires distinct clarity. (And Leadership!). Additional reading references Genesis 41:15-40 about how Joseph would explain to Pharaoh the situation. If that were not enough, then another reading about Wisdom in the RBC’s Daily Bread, references Psalm 28 “If only We Could” when a situation might have evil within the hearts. Then there is a strong essay at regarding “The Challenge of Being an Isaac”, though the issues are not about things. Seemingly, to realize a life filled with child-like wonder and awe, the experiences that I/We read about are as much about stopped up “wells”. The challenge seemingly requires of each one and collectively of learning how to ask the questions, and the space to sort out the truths of what we are being told as it relates to each unqiue reality. The certainty that lives have been lost requires a response to a simple, “Why”?

  • When I read your comment along with others, to advocate and to have advocated, knowing this moment is in part framed by the technologies of “communication” as typed, can leave me in awe of discovering said site. But also without a verbal, an oral way to hear where my emphasis is, then I wonder (as I type this the seclusions, the wards, the yuk of the experiences encountered) requires one to go beyond. To hear or be in crowds or groups who choose the simplicity of words to realize race, or then in terms of writing as sharp declininations (Black versus White, or black to white as a range of grays) can be confusing as to the bias one can think. If I were thinking about how one might experience “light” or enlightenment from the painter’s perspective, could the argument be realized in terms of exclamation points? To be with and of the heart requires a great deal of being human. Oddly, when we realize the level of the other perspectives aligned with potential embarrassment, by the very words of mental health treated and treatment, there seems to be a point, whereby enough lines have been drawn in the sand. Tks!

  • Samantha: If you are located in Edinburgh, have explored film and the manner by which the language of “colonization” extends into the laboratory of and use of agar on the plates? To understand the sense of your research, the impact of the industrial nature of the Scot’s ability to have shaped steam at Glasgow poses significant space to hold the social accountable in suicide prevention? How would you realize the impacts of your search altering the prevailing design and operation of the designed and engineered space into focus for yourself and others? (And nations?)

  • Steve, do you sense this site as providing some degree of therapy? Or learning, though the impact of typing the words, transmitting through e-tech may not really get beyond Elting E. Morison’s book, From Know-How to Nowhere: The Development of American Technology”? To have been introduced and medicated, without first really understanding the nature of “the medical practice” seemingly leaves the court docket wide open for potential legal challenges, if there were only attorney’s who understood or could understand the nature of how rationality may not be so linear in nature. The real problems seemingly are surfacing now.

  • The moment the title was etched into the digital stone, “Who’s to Blame for the Lost Soul of Psychiatry”, the idea of Soul present in the corporate would become a killer. And surely, by Hickey’s words “The explosion of pharmaceutical development in the 1990s” suggests actions that were anything but balanced, respectful or even sustainable in the world of commerce. I would submit gradual, orderly growth as well as decline is a challenge to understand if we wish to realize smoother transitions. Which somehow, the beliefs stay in place as to what might be better, not more, but better modalities of engaged healing, driven by the citizen.

    The nature of this insight and comments might carry more weight in a juried publication, though essentially when people have lost their lives in the physical institution, then where is the critique that really understands the history before we become history?

  • The Risk analytics you suggest are more in the domain of quantitative assessments. Much of the operative words around psychology are built around “centering”, balance and imbalance. Would it be easier to go to the local hardware store and purchase different types of bubble balances, then explore how one, through a release of movement, crafts new emergent results from complexities of working reactions within the whole human. Further, if one can conceptualize the smallest of bubble shops and balances, then how can our understanding begin to change and reflect sometimes ways of thinking? Can the understanding, measure by measure, convey gyrations of awe in the discovery that thought might even be separate from a spoken language for some rhythmic time periods? (This might be difficult to notate from patient to patient since everyone’s experience is slightly different and storied from another.)

    To reflect a little about the nature of the unicameral government of England along with a monarchy might account more for the subtle nature of what is proper and hierarchical in powers of governance. On the other hand, after the French Revolution, and the awakening to where the power resides and what is considered as sovereign as well as SOVERIGN seemingly would be held within the people.
    then the civil practice of law should be reflecting the power of the “WE”, in the allocations and expenditures by which the whole is addressed.

    As we know, from the USA with the Constitutional Amendment that gave license to the corporate as if it had a conscious, we seemingly are seeing now governance patterns that are not embracing healthy understanding from where empowerment and governance originate. Instead, the prevailing political context reflects a poverty of aesthetics in the art of the deals/contracts that have been made.

    Finally, it seems to me that most of our thinking is impaired, when we really understand little about the structure by which “The LIGHTS” can be understood without a breaking of the vessels, the flow of thinking, that might be more of music than the harsh, intrusive actions that emerge out of the acts of Justifying injury. And at that, then how can one arise from the self-destructive space that seemingly is apart of “the treatment” experience?

  • Certainly, there is an ethical context to the individual as well as the organization’s process in the decision-making at the time of commitment. Can you elaborate any about the moral context at this time? If a law, or the emergent law that is written, followed by a policy that is written, that addresses the liability questions, then at what point, or where can the individual discover, what it means to be committed to surviving the atrocities of this painful experience.

    If the pro’s have mixed feelings that day and the potential patient is having a mixture of feelings in response to what is happening within the self AND the organizational thinking that surrounds the experience in an institutionalized manner, then at what point, can the Rights being understood and respected?

    Further, what does the summary data really mean in application/change to the operations? Does the granular nature of the sum void the individual experiences that many of us have encountered? When the papers are given to the individual for signature, is that moment ever conveyed as a “involuntary commitment that negates the necessity of being processed through a court ordered commitment”? And to begin to exercise choice while one’s medicated state is being played with, who has the courage of a Soteria Experience to articulate the realities of the experiences being encountered? Finally, as I re-read and read your final statements, I would ask if you are of the opinion that “society” has a mind, a collective understanding of what being a human means across the spectrum that is known?

    Therefore, would in the legal sense of trying to implement change, would the thought be stronger or weaker if the word “should” would be replaced by “shall”. (The should becomes a wiggling space while the shall invokes a more deterministic stance, that also has weights for the scales of mental health justice). Just my opinion. I do think you are at an intersect with this article.

  • Can you please elaborate about the idea of “qualitative interviewing of the individuals”, all at once to understand the social, or do the interviews take place over qualities of time, as a dimensional construct of awareness by the organization as opposed to the individuals? Trying to understand the nature of “social communication” in sound, print, telepathy? To tease out when the estrangement within the individual, begins to create some issues that have no words? (And may not have words, if ineffable?) And what if the sender-receiver are also receiving-sending with a small part being absorbed/modulating by the technologies?

  • If I were to realize a walk-about in Australia, could a citizen with a dis-ability be found in an entrepreneurial role? Your models do not include that category as an option, not the government workers who would understand that role, not the community that Would embrace the markets that affirms the exchange from people. Artificial intelligence jumped ahead while leaving us out. Would the architect and planners be shaping the space as a design challenge? Elected people shaping the policy, if they cater to Monroe’s in the coffers? And would the banking community finance the models that have this potential human expression present in all forms of public transportation? Nothing is more oppressive than a government that lacks policy that affirms life. The sheer hypocrisy in invoking the rhetoric and vitrol of pro-life vs pro-choice, anti-abortion misses the act of being socially aborted, especially when we begin the forced treatments that take us out of life. Or the danger of fire from poorly managed and manipulated ecosystems. Great insight Alex!

  • A friend who would be on risperdal would be treated to having all of his teeth replaced by the community mental health and insurance. However, I also wonder if his life was shortened by being on this medication. And unfortunately, the level and consistency of advocacy, by, for and with the citizens who are the customers, diminished in time. On the backside, the interest in trying to create the words, that can convey my stand and/or our stance, can convey an arrogance on my part. To me there is a learning of shaped in the conceptual realm of pure science, then applied science. Currently in medical practice, the increased computer program sifting out a pre-survey, to expedite the visit with the doctor, robotically advances a paradigm by which the corporate advances a position. And in reading this article and posts, I would wonder how to implement a way by which the self-monitoring, a way to document and improve through applied arts and sciences, a healing space that moves with the citizen in need. The oddity, in post hospitalization and care is not about receiving more zoom and post surveys, but I think rather to formalize the advocacy to stronger levels while also realizing the implementation with application….. And I’m not sure about this stream of query, though I think from reading Caplan’s writings, that perhaps the healing space can be imparted or conveyed, even when so much has been endured and witnessed. The ethics I would think when understood are enough to stop the runaway train of mental health “care”. Thanks to the whole of the emergent discourse.

  • A WHOLE! aF Klint would strive to realize the dissolving of boundaries in her work… and yet, to have considered to visit the Broad Institute Mental Health Annual Meeting? What sort of research is really understanding, recovery that understands the space in which the research operates does not even come close to the realities the customer experiences, whole as we strive to be and understand.

  • David: In reading again this AM about Cancer Alley, there seems to be class action lawsuits that can shape operations. However, to what extent have the customers who know a different healing process could emerge, have access to the legal representation has a class action suit. Our tribe is not defined like others, and the integrity to respect the uniqueness of all, really pushes the very nature of discover and representation in the prevailing legal framework.

  • Ten to fifteen years after my first experience in a State Hospital, I would encountered a therapist who would suggest that i read, “The Child Within. The sticky notes are still there, He also shared with me how he was diagnosed with bi-polar. And, while this is effort to type, to understand what it means to live in city, state area known for Thomas Merton, Dali Lama visits and Standar Gravure and Prozac. The ideology about the Right to Life, seemingly ignores realizing a better ethos for reconciliation and healing.

    The author’s thinking suggests that a recovery will enable one to become clearer and briefer. But what happens, when one attempts to describe the experience of the altered state, not as a pathology to be dissected, but rather as a way to understand the robust nature of reality through the arts and sciences by which a human becomes a better human? Ted, I am not sure if the practice of Law is yet able to understand how one can recover, while affirming the access to resources for the clients.

  • Irit: Have you thought of the terminology we are striving for as being slightly beyond the ineffable? We really work at a level beyond 100% (David was being modest with his expectations in percentages, as I suspect he, his family and the greater community sense a certain awareness before, at the edge and beyond. To tease out, hold and be in the space, where the limnal reality can emerge from the tension in the order to disorder flow or the disorder to order flow, tied inherent to the direction of time’s arrow. And even then, perhaps our perception of time becomes extraordinarily heightened/dampened as we process out the past while learning to become in the NOW? Words may not carry the freight, though poetics is different. Seems also that the tech is playing a role in allowing one to edit after even typing.

    If the focus is on 2022, then what does have a need of being organized or do we sense and convey a certain way of assembling that folks have yet to understand in the role of assembly? And yet, the design for accessbility, the x-disability seems to beyond the actions of politicians and urban/rural designers.

    If one wishes to enter into the seasonal political races, imagine what the crowd would look like if they went and filed for different offices? One doesn’t have to take the money as I sense this has been an influence in the advertising and manipulation of health care and other disciplines rooted in our economic system. Money does need to be created or consider time as currency. And historically, people have been fearful of having their financial notes pulled for fear of losing credit/or creating wealth.
    In these various scenarios, there is a certain legal context at work which can set boundaries; but as Judy Chamberlain would say, “We’re Free”.

    Typing/sharing my opinion though is not exactly the same as the robust conversations one could have in an Alternatives or NICL conference. Tks, Irit and David. Enjoyed our chat yesterday. A clue as to the politics we are trying to operate in can be observed in “Dark Money”, about the law that gave rise to the Super Pac and how only one state would challenge the Supreme Court Ruling. Call it out, “What is corruption’s name?
    Hence, how would see a different polity emerge? And where or at one point, can We, as a people realize change is good!

  • “The field of Global Mental Health has previously been criticized for resisting critics who have urged the field to consider power relations and histories of oppression, particularly in their plans for “scaling up” treatment in low and middle-income countries.” and the last line, “Black Lives Matter and worldwide street protests have shown that regarding racism, colonialism, and police violence, silence and inaction are unacceptable,” Weine concludes, and it more important than ever for Global Mental Health to commit itself to address these issues within the field itself.”

    Would the strategic response also include the importance of how and why to “scaling down”? To talk income, in terms of low and middle, does the quantity of numbers equal the qualities of lives experienced?

    Being that today is Global Mental Health Day. then how and why could this expenditure of time cycle around the world, perhaps making a difference for others, as well as myself, with some humility. To read the letters that create the words, the space between, the silence of the ground between, as in figure/ground is essential in order for the words to be articulated into sound. Typing is different, each of us are different as humans, all having a rather fascinating journey on “Normality Street”. Do we need to create a relative handle as we reflect on what Einstein would say about solving the problem requires thinking (essentially modulating to a different keyboard/field) in order to create the music for today’s parade! (While running with Eric Liddell, the gentleman from Scotland ) Tks Samantha!

  • I would disagree with you Emaline. Our collective mental health as well as individual is being stressed to think we can model everything with and through the computer. Tragically, lives are lost in rushing the craftsmanship, the qualities of a more interesting space being shorted out. So, even in the strength of the arguments advanced, which are on point within this domain of language, there is nothing artificial about LIFE that can be experienced. One of the fascinating designed opera houses occurred in Australia because an engineer was able to turn himself inside/out. When an individual turns their thinking inside/out the risk of becoming stuck (as Robert Pirsig described in Zen and the Art of Motorcyle Maintenance) becomes real. He had an interesting description of the analog prior to the digital.

    For the record, in traveling to Waterloo to realize my MA, Ithe letters from the psychiatrist would have to be cleared through Canadian Customs just as the US has practiced. The issue is about healing over time as well as addressing the social of the injustice imposed upon us. Looking back, Boltzmann who wrtoe the equation for disorder would visit California and then return home to his native country. He committed suicide.

    How do you trace out the step by step post the mind, when in an altered state of operation? The mind is a verb, with even a spiritual aspect, perhaps articulated in knowing from the mystics perspective.

    There is nothing artificial about the experiences we have endured. The practice of law on the other hand, seemingly is ignoring the legal challenge that is coming due! What attorney(s) have the stamina to atone for what often has been murder, directly and indirectly or that gives rise to poverty to us, singularly and collectively?

  • Do you think mental health treatment has created a colonization that needs de-colonization? If one holds the potential to apply science through better management, then how can the more oppressed group, denied often from being thought worthy to even participate in LIFE, create a better, healthier reality forward? But in knowing that even trauma has a supply and demand curve, how come We, the mis-treated can give rise to a different economy that is structured in units of time? See :

    Perhaps there might be a way, that through our values, we can create a way out of this one false economy that seemingly is robbing people of their lives, to one where an ethical praxis become rooted in “No-Throw-Aways!

    Even time, is a dimension for one to understand as being important in the creation of healing space!

  • Have you explored Charles D. Morgan’s Matters of Life and Data?

    Our challenge now in an era where the roll out for jet travel can be modeled through computer assisted models (see poses some real business issues with modeling projects though the computer. By comparison, the soup of pharma seemingly is not understood at the human level of consumption and informed decision making from the first time we are challenged to decide under pressure to take the meds or not without understanding the impacts for our travel through space and time, that is the journey through life.

    Being the meds have incredible side effects, when can we expect the industry to be grounded? The design and engineering of our shared and individual habitat seems to not grasp that people are being murdered directly if not indirectly.

  • Peter: If all life as being experienced has elements of subjectivity in the measure of the moment being experienced, whether one is becoming depressed or oscillating to the mirror state, then how does the Western Cultural values awaken to the deterministic value that can become destructive? Better yet, within the thinking and meditating, how or why can the healing space be experienced into a safer place on and off, even away the web? Discovering a better way to afford presence, would seem to be of value to our communities? And places we visit?

  • Sorry, I confused the spelling of Bloch and Block. The Block that presented at the conference has a cancer clinic in Chicago, the other Bloch would create the Bloch Cancer Foundation and Gardens, and owned the H&R Block Tax Company. However, if the prevailing social structure can not understand how to advance credit by which We, can realize the importance of our LIFE as opposed to death, then who or what is avoiding a shift in the nature of justice?

  • A follow-up question: Does one think a city is an organism, that should work 24/7? From the meeting at the NYAS, melatonin intake would be increased along with sleep in a blackened room and improved diet to reduce the cancers (up to 50% in women) as reported by Dr. Stephen Bloch of the Bloch Cancer Institute. There were also some researchers from Texas and S.C. that also affirmed these positions. So, this news helps to understand a way forward that will be addressed. Tks.

  • And here:

    I would attend this conference at the new tower of the World Trade Center, in the building where the New York Academy of Science is headquartered to hear about circadian rhythm, light and cancer. I would work up a poster that drew from Technology Assessment Office (see: and then ponder the meaning of what a city did to expand for UPS, to hire college students to work their conveyor lines at night) that flies in and out and night. All the while, the larger health insurance company stages fitness runs, sponsors events, when the experience from the mind side of the body, has not been so favorable where the horse rules along with a serious history of doping. And then today, to try and drive home, to get back to my apartment in a city that has installed concrete barriers and dump trucks to shut off access to downtown—- Are we opened for business ? These actions seem to be a strange way to ramp up to making America Great Again? And by Saturday, to realize a new Judge? On the bench? George’s eyes are watching!

  • Perhaps there is a way to explore, or I am curious if you embrace an awareness for the Fourth Dimension? Attempted to convey this aspect in the final show, while hanging on by a thread.

    I would experience in junior high, the student who would ask for punishment from the industrial arts class. The idea was bizarre, but even more where the other teacher, Bryant would give all his students a Christmas spank with the paddle. Sick educational systems!

    Your statement about parental love is of importance…. For the opposite of love is not hate but indifference as Wiesel would claim. The triangulation and knowing how a developing human processes the emotions when the experiences in an hospital setting are saying “Fuck You, Psychiatry, Psychiatrists and the Hospital” (see Artuad’s comments), then the platform to connect and change the parts in the systems become crystal clear…….. at least that is what the thinking is saying now.

  • I suspect we we will have to create the gallery!

    Would that be of interest? When our 501.c3 was intact, I would invite the local Mayor, Jerry Abramson, to be a judge for our Art Show. He had endured handling the mass killing at the newspaper by a man on Prozac. The settlement by Lilly silenced the discussion.

    But for 3 days we had a conference, presentations by our people in what was then the Holiday Inn on Broadway. Part of the disconnect that would frustrate the efforts was the discounting, that seemingly conveyed or ignored that We, are the citizens!

    Your work is remarkable and elevates the dynamic that so many face when being processed through the institution. Advise as you see fit, for I do believe the creative way forward, through the Arts will lift and communicate the reason to affirm creatives.

    My brushes and pencils are smarter than me! The keyboard, I wonder whether to take this apart, and strap down to the bed… (which I would experience after walking off the grounds, and being taken back to the hospital, and placed in seclusion).

    tks much!.

  • The protocol for my experience during the mass killing at the Courier-Journal, the killer was on Prozac that was quietly settled by Lilly in a manipulative manner, was to experience a forced commitment. Then placed on disability, after the meds were played around with. Then routed into Voc-Rehab who would alter the career dreams, while I began to discover the organization of c/s/x.

    When you talk “Welfare State”, the terms have become one of confused communication whereby an individual can think of individuals who have accessed legit programs. Then there is the report about the Welfare of the State, as in how are we doing across the various departments/disciplines . Somehow, the monies that have programed to aid those who for reasons are directly visible, are a drop in the bucket compared to the monies financed to create wars and space travel. Money itself can be a sponge like device, to be played with, just ask George Soros or astute investors who know their currencies. Time has been spent approaching the medical doctors, medical boards and the departments of justice. Certified letters and other communications shows the efforts. And the lack of intervention shows another……

  • How and why do you not include the banker, the financial system in some of these meetings? Our non-profit had started the Peer Program, but without the appropriate resouces to grow salaried positions, then how could one ever expect real empowerment in the State where Lincoln was from? Withe the death of Ginsburg, I suspect the PAC money is pouring in to the coffers, but that does not necessarily mean WISDOM in rulings and votes!