It helps and it doesn’t harm and its inexpensive (and it works for “Schizophrenia” and “Bipolar” as well).
Yes, but it’s worthwhile that it’s being medically acknowledged!
I discuss my personal feelings with people in (anonymous) 12 Step Fellowship. They can’t do anything with my Information as the setting is within an “Anonymous” Fellowship.
What I share is more or less what everyone else within fellowship shares – the content is suitable for “Fellowship” but not very suitable outside.
[In reference to my comment above – I initially attempted to come off strong psychiatric drugs abruptly (with permission); and this resulted in disaster. I then carefully tapered (with help) -and this was successful.]
[I also managed to figure out the dynamic of my "High Anxiety" and to adapt around this].
Thank you very much for posting this; and it doesn’t surprise me at all!
Yes, but not successfully.
The large scale promotion of anti depressant drug usage, could be part of a broader overall campaign to to get most people onto a psychiatric drug.
Slaying the Dragon,
I fully support your contentions.
Coming off strong psychiatric drugs “triggers” a condition of “High Anxiety”, and its how a person can accommodate this, that determines the result (I nearly died in the process).
I believe the “Hearing Voices Network” is operational in Canada and I wonder where it fits in here?
If people are open about the “phenomenon” then how can it be a “crime”.
Dear Alan,
You are helping your son and lots of other people with the publication of this Article.
In my own experience once a person takes “medications” for a period of time, they become “schizophrenic” – (beyond this, I don’t believe there’s any such thing).
According to Dr Alan Frances (I believe) to be mentally ill a person has got to suffer from distress.
Psychiatric hospitals came with the Industrial Reveloution when a person wasn’t of much use Industrially if they weren’t “normal” – but there are completely legitimate environments in the real world where to be “normal” a person is not likely to survive (very well).
(Medicine today, (I believe) itself is now a completely industrial environment where to question anything can mean automatic “death”).
If people can get successfully better through normal human contact, then the “system” in place has got to be worse than useless.
Mindfulness is inexpensive and “therapy” is expensive.
Alcoholics Anonymous is inexpensive and rehab is expensive. A friend of mine attends the AA regularly and remains abstinent and happy. But his medical notes state that he is now a social drinker.
rasselas,
Nice to see you again.
Living in the real world might very frightening for lots of people that don’t at all have “schizophrenia”.
“….What is called recurrence when the patients no longer receive the drug is very often withdrawal symptoms that appear because the brain has been accustomed to the drug. …”
I Completely Agree:-
In 1980 I was happy to “decline” psychiatric drugs and to ask for psychotherapy, but by 1983 when I was given permission to discontinue Modecate depot injection, I quickly found that I could not survive without it.
By 1984 after a number of further hospitalizations I managed to stop taking the Modecate depot injection. To do this I had to switch to oral medication and to taper carefully, with psychotherapy.
It took me 6 years to reduce from 25mg of Modecate depot injection per month, to 25mg of Mellaril per day (which eventually became nothing).
What was the Irish Suicide Rate prior to Large Scale “Anti Depressant” Exposure?
“…Fine Gael TD and chairman of the Irish Association of Suicidology, Dan Neville, told the forum the average annual suicide rate in Ireland in the 1960s was 64-65.
He said: “Last year, 483 people died by suicide and if you add the 123 undetermined deaths, the suicide number is over 600.”…”
You can be scared and “catastrophising” and overcome this without tranquillizers (once somebody shows you how).
Lots of people have done this before you!
PIG IN THE KITCHEN.
In my own case there was NO Official Admission Procedure to my Original Maudsley Hospital UK Stay of 1980. The name of the ‘social worker’ that accompanied me to the Maudsley is NOWHERE to be found in my Records. I walked through one door and then through another door – and then, I was IN.
After this I wandered around the Hospital coming and going as I liked, without interference.
Several Maudsley “patients” even invited me to their houses, and I accepted, and one of them cooked me dinner.
At a later date (following a visit to an Irish ‘Social Worker”, at Kilburn ) Maudsley Staff attempted to “raise” a Section on me – but I wasn’t Officially “THERE” to begin with!
My Maudsley Hospital “Discharge Summary” of 1980 (as presented to the Irish Medical Council by my historical Psychiatrist Dr PA Carney) – contains NO Admission Date.
RECOVERY FROM AKATHISIA
My Reply to My GP Surgery “Delisting” Letter:-
To: Newton Medical (London W2)
Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018
Subject: Att. All Partners and Dr Baluch
Dear Sirs/(Madams)
In your Letter dated October 17 2018 – you seriously misrepresent me.
TRUST
My trust in Newton Medical was broken in October of 2012 when (to my horror) I discovered my name had been on a Severe Mental Illness Register since 2002. At this time (2002) I had been working as a Building Subcontractor in the House of Parliament Buildings (and can substantiate this).
OCTOBER 8 2018 VISIT TO NEWTON MEDICAL. REGARDING HEALTH AND SAFETY ON BUILDING SITES
On October 8 2018 I explained (and showed ) to the Reception Manager and to Dr Baluch at Newton Medical, that at my last appointment on July 20 2016 Dr Simons had given me in writing a sheet of paper from the Appointment Notes stating that – “he could see no reason that I could NOT work on a Building Site” . While at the same time Dr Simons had provided me with another sheet of paper from a “Legal Adviser” (July 20 2016)
(which made reference to the historical 1986 Irish Record Summary) but also at the the bottom of the page stated – that I had a “Diagnosis of Schizophrenia…” and “had NOT DISPUTED this diagnosis..”.
I explained on October 8 2018 that I had shown and discussed both of these contradictory statements received in July 20 2016 with a Building Health and Safety Officer who advised me to get this contradictory situation resolved – as the medical suggestions could undermine my credibility, and could affect me in the event of an accident on a Building Site.
I have not suffered any disability in my 30 years in the UK; but Medical Claims of Present day Severe Mental Illness are invalidating. I presumed Newton Medical (promoting the disability) to be the first place to approach – this is why I called to the Surgery on October 8 2018.
DISTRESS
When I clearly demonstrated the Malpractice properties of the 1986 Irish Record Summary to Dr Simons in two interviews in October/November 2012 – at the end of both of these interviews Dr Simons shirt was completely saturated and sticking to his body (he was genuinely traumatised).
But, there is no mention anywhere on my records of this Malpractice.
MY BACKGROUND.
I made Full Recovery in 1984 as a Result of carefully tapering from the Modecate Depot Injection with the help of Practical Psychotherapy – and returned to normal life and independence.
“….In 2006, ÆSOP reported a ninefold increase in the risk of developing schizophrenia in black Caribbeans when compared with the white British population..”
Julie,
There’s lots of different ways of Stopping Treatment and getting Better. And there’s lots of pitfalls in the system.
Lenora,
It makes me cringe as well. Once a talking therapist goes down the road of “diagnosis” , the “therapy” becomes a waste of time (at best).
Frank,
As far as I know Long term Mental Health Disability in the UK is at about 5% of the population.
1 in 20 Adults are claiming Severe Mental Illness Benefit in the UK.
I believe Genuine Research into this Area would identify Serious Failings in the UK Justice System, and the “Creation of Severe Mental Illness” through exposure to Strong Psychiatric Drugs.
With the Removal of “Schizophrenia” most people could make Full Recovery.
I think UK Research should focus on the “Creation of “Schizophrenia”” in the majority of Black People (9 out of 10) originally misdiagnosed with “Schizophrenia”, and subsequently exposed to Strong Psychiatric Drugs.
A UK Black person is more than 10 times more likely to be diagnosed with “Schizophrenia” than a white person in the the UK. And many more times more likely again, to be diagnosed with “Schizophrenia” than a black person in the Caribbean.
(At 10 times the National Average, UK University Kings College (I believe) were considering researching as to why “Rates of Schizophrenia” were so high in Black people in the UK).
Thanks dfk,
This is understandable and really worth reading. It’s 1000 times more worthy than a psychiatric paper.
I like Rufus May (as well) because he has personal experience, and he also has solutions. Voices are the mainstay of “Schizophrenia” and Rufus and Others are showing people how to practically accommodate them.
I’m amazed to see this getting into the NHS!
I consumed 25mg of Mellaril per day by choice. This is maybe 5% of a maintenance dose.
Hi Frank,
Human Beings have now developed technology to the point that we can replace most jobs with machines, and we have birth control which limits population size. There’s no reason not to share these benefits with everyone.
This is brilliant News! I’ve never experienced the “phenomenon” of “voices” but what works, works.
I’m glad your doing a book, there’s a few people I know who are right now in similar situations to what you were (up to when you completely turned around). I hope I’ll be able to persuade them to read it!
Lovely Julie,
I got better when I stopped Treatment!
I’ve known lots of “diagnosed” “Schizophrenics” in Ireland and not one of them had even the expected levels of violence in their backgrounds.
In London where I’ve lived for 30 years most normal men I know have a history of heavy physical interactions.
“….At a TED talk In November 2018, Thunberg said she had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism.[11…..”
“…A delusion is a belief held with very strong conviction. Even though it’s based on a mistaken, strange or unrealistic view. It may affect the way the person behaves. Delusions can begin suddenly, or may develop over weeks or months…”
Frank,
I consumed psychiatric medication voluntarily for many years at a very reduced level. It wasnt bothering me, so I didn’t see why not.
The AA is definitely full of “nutters”, but its success rate is very high for those that attend regularly (both by way of abstinence and recovery from distress).
I was very surprised in 1983 when a Psychologist in Galway Psychiatric Unit (Ireland) assured me that everyone in the Psychiatric Unit could fully recover without medication. He also told me that he wasn’t anti medication at all, if it helped.
I didn’t believe him at the time because I was fully convinced that I couldn’t recover myself. I had tried to stop taking “my medication” and had ended up in a state, and back in Hospital.
Well said Dr Daniel.
Alex,
You’re Welcome!
Thanks Alex,
The counsellors I was provided with were in training and voluntary which was one reason I think they were so helpful. But I agree that psychotherapy is wide open to abuse.
In his book “Selfhood”, Medical Doctor Terry Lynch describes how he helps “schizophrenic” “diagnosed” people come off drugs and get their lives back. Dr Terry Lynch’s approach is what I think of as useful psychotherapy.
Very well put!
Very true Steve, as regards the drug withdrawal symptoms.
I found that when I tried to come off neuroleptics drugs, I had problems with my “head”, that I had never experienced before.
Ultimately I was able to find a means of coping with these problems – but only through good luck.
Its not just the media, it’s politicians and all the other institutions that support Psychiatry even when they are made fully aware of its damage (and uselessness).
Any commercial individual that speaks out is not likely to last long but if they stay in the group they can be protected.
Its quite easy for a person to believe in “mental illness” if they find themselves “going mad” when they try to come off psychiatric drugs. Its clear that Laura Delano found a means of coping with the difficulties of psychiatric drug withdrawal, and overcame “Severe Mental Illness” as a result of abandoning Psychiatry.
UK unemployment is now almost down to 3%; and UK long term disability is now almost up to 20%.
“…A Canadian study found that use of antidepressants doubled the likelihood that a person will go on long-term disability….”
(from the article).
Thank you Bob,
Leading “Schizophrenia” Researcher Professor Robin Murray in his podcast interview with James Moore
acknowledges “Neuroleptic Withdrawal Syndrome” and says that it abates after a number of months.
This was certainly NOT my experience (even with a very careful drug taper).
That’s true Steve, but sometimes a non drug (dependent) approach can cost less in the short run and in the long run.
I believe that it’s possible to get the help thats needed in the community. If you look at people that Recover this is often the path they take.
..As far as I know the Danger Aspect of “Schizophrenia” is in the taking of “Medication” – not the other way around.
Who’s paying for all of this: A “Schizophrenic” in the community costs about the same as a Medical Doctor; a Recovered Person in the community costs nothing.
Rachel (if you’re reading),
I’ve met you briefly maybe twice and you come across as being very dedicated and capable. Like you I was never suicidal until I started taking medication and never suicidal after coming off it.
I ran into serious problems when I tried to stop taking drugs suitable for schizophrenia but, luckily I did manage to work them out.
I recovered in the early 1980s in Ireland and have remained well since, and can substantiate this, but in 2002 my “schizophrenia” was revived in the UK via the Severe Mental Illness Register without assessment or discussion. I only found out by chance in 2012!
They’re not smart enough to be Psychologists if they don’t know that the solutions can be found in “Psychology”. Nobody has ever recovered through the Medical Model.
Hi Sam,
You talk about dissociation “structurally altering the brain” – I think its all more or less psychological (and/or spiritual) and the brain effects are not worth talking about in biomedical terms, as they can be “altered” again through psychological/social interaction.
You might be referring to the same thing – but what gets me is when biomedical experts think that psychological problems can be cured through brain tranquillisation.
There is a withdrawal syndrome attached to “antipsychotics” and it is very difficult to come off these drugs even with a careful drug withdrawal program.”Antipsychotic withdrawal syndrome” is medically acknowledged but the extent of the problem is not.
They do change the brain and cause “mental illness”. I refused drugs happily at the start but after consuming them for some years, I was incapable of stopping without a lot of help.
I think if a person can successfully come off drugs and recover (after years of disability benefit dependency) this proves that the non drug approach is what’s suitable.
Are these people telling lies?
The British Psychological Society:
“..The problems we think of as ‘psychosis’ – hearing voices, believing things that others find strange, or appearing out of touch with reality – can be understood in the same way as other psychological problems such as anxiety or shyness…”
There is s lot of evidence that psychiatric drugs can create psychotic symptoms in well people and this is scientifically accepted by the drug manufacturers who place WARNINGS on the drug labels (to protect their own interests).
As far as I know, the only people that genuinely recover, recover as a result of not taking their “medication”. And I can scientifically validate my own experience of this type of genuine recovery with documentary evidence from my records.
Depot Antipsychotics Revisited (a Research paper from my Historical Irish Psychiatrist)
Revisited:-
When I complained about the disabling side effects of the drugs (above) I was given the option of discontinuation ; and was to experience 4 hospitalizations in the next 5 months, which were classified as Relapses.
But I eventually did come off the depot injection in 1984 through a careful taper with oral medication, and successful “Psychotherapy”; and regained my capacity to work and become fully independent.
I also consumed very low doses of oral neuroleptics
for years afterwards, until they eventually disappeared of their own accord.
(I wouldn’t have survived without the “Psychotherapy”)
Frank,
Tardive Dyskinesia (I believe) is understood to refer to “late onset movement disorder” with stereotypical symptoms attached to it.
But neuroleptics can cause lots of permanent neurological (movement) problems that seriously affect a person’s ability to function (“slowed down movement”, “muscle weaknness”, “poor co ordination”).
Recovered,
I think you’re 100 percent right. The more professionals and lay people talking honestly about the real dangers attached to Psychiatric Drugs the better.
Thank you James for another excellent contribution.
There’s loads of technical talk and big words in “Medical Papers” but the people that recover usually recover (for free) outside of the system.
“…That the focus on biological, brain-based diseases and symptoms conflicts with the experience of people who are attempting to develop a narrative view of their difficulties and suffering….”
I would say that I was just interested in getting off medication and keeping my head straight.
(In blunt terms) I believe Peter Breggin cures schizophrenia without drugs + Kelly Brogan works hard helping women avoid the SSRI trap.
It’s not just about stopping medication. I don’t know how Peter Breggin works but he exudes humanity; and I like Kelly Brogans meditation (/spiritual) approach.
I believe that, Neuroleptics (/”antipsychotics”) have withdrawal syndromes that lock people into long term psychiatric dependency and disability.
I notice that most people that manage to come off Neuroleptics to recover do this in ways that are similar. Psychologist Dr Rufus May advises on drug withdrawal problems, but his advice is very similar to Psychiatrist Dr Pat Brackens.
I wouldn’t see myself coming off these drugs without some means of dealing with the psychological effects of the withdrawal syndrome – because I would go mad.
But what if the “Schizophrenic” is Homicidal??
– I tried to kill myself several times on strong psychiatric drugs, but never after coming off them (or before I ever took them).
Rachel 777,
I can back up what I’ve said with hard evidence.
Dear Dr Joanna,
Thank you for this Article.
My experience is that Prescribed Psychiatric drugs cause long term damage and disability. They also cause dependency, and this is why most people get into trouble, when they attempt to withdraw from Psychiatric drugs.
The British Psychological Society maintain that they can help people suffering from “delusions” or “hallucinations” the same way as they help people suffering from “anxiety” or “depression”:- I suffered from dreadful “High Anxiety” when I discontinued powerful neuroleptics but was able to find a psychological means to cope – so the BPS are right.
I think a solution might be to move on to the idea that there’s no such thing as “Schizophrenia” or “Bipolar”.
What this Article claims is that the original “problems” are transitory.
In this Article Dr David Healy suggests “Schizophrenia” is “disappearing”, but “problems” still continue, and recovery is available with careful treatment.
I know I wouldn’t have “recovered” without suitable “Psychotherapy” (/”mindfulness”).
MH is a place where an expert can say anything!
I’ve said all the above before (about racial misdiagnosing) – but it’s agreed with in this article.
I was chemically trapped in “schizophrenia”, and I can substantiate (with evidence) that I recovered as a result of stopping treatment (and “compensating” psychotherapy).
If practised mindfulness allows a person to detach and move into their own head where everything is (actually) safe.
I found mindfulness very useful (but I wouldn’t medicalise it).
“….Black patients are up to 17 times more likely to receive a diagnosis (of “Schizophrenia”) than white patients…” and once the misdiagnosed enter the system they become “Schizophrenic”.
Very well put!
Thanks Noel,
“Schizophrenia” can be created through the consumption of Psychiatric drugs; and the only people that I’ve ever heard of recovering from “Schizophrenia”, are those that have recovered as a result of rejecting the Psychiatric drug approach.
With mechanization, birth control, and resources the world has never been richer – but it’s being hoarded by the few.
“..Chinese people
There is very little knowledge of the extent of mental health problems in the Chinese community.
It has been suggested that the close-knit family structure of the Chinese community provides strong support for its members. While this may be beneficial, it may generate feelings of guilt and shame, resulting in people feeling stigmatised and unable to seek help…”
The Chinese don’t have much contact with the SMI Psychiatric Services and appear to remain WELL.
(Apologies if I’m wandering off topic here)
I would say that the iatrogenic problems caused by psychiatric drugs override any original problem (or that’s my experience of it).
(To prove the point:- A 2nd generation Afro Caribbean person is (factually) 10 times more likely than a white UK person to receive a diagnosis of Schizophrenia in the UK. So a reasonable percentage of these diagnosis must be False; but this does not present itself in the Recovery figures. Because (in my opinion) any person exposed to the *SMI medical system, is nearly always guaranteed to remain *SMI.
*Severely Mentally Ill).
Someone Else,
Your writing style is very professional.
“Euthanasia in Mental Health” approved of by all present day Regulators contacted (in the UK and Ireland):-
Adverse Drug Reaction Warning Request Letter sent to Galway Nov. 8 1986
In the UK (as far as I’m aware) the newspaper presenting the most “honest” approach to “Mental Health” is the (Right Wing) Daily Mail.
Rachel777,
What happens if they cover up the side effects, and deliberately keep Requested Adverse Drug Reaction Warnings off the records, while at the same time reassuring the patient that the Warnings have been entered, and that the patient is protected.
The best way to get a “Relapsing” Diagnosis is to come off neuroleptics abruptly.
A Slow taper is is likely to work as it leaves time to look after arising problems.
Many years ago I had an original “admission”; and maybe 5 following hospitalizations, all of which were suicidal, until I stopped taking “medication” to recover.
When I explained the dangers of the “medication” to my psychiatrist – he left the continent.
In my case he might have been worried about being sued – but in reality he should have been worried about being prosecuted.
It helps and it doesn’t harm and its inexpensive (and it works for “Schizophrenia” and “Bipolar” as well).
Yes, but it’s worthwhile that it’s being medically acknowledged!
I discuss my personal feelings with people in (anonymous) 12 Step Fellowship. They can’t do anything with my Information as the setting is within an “Anonymous” Fellowship.
What I share is more or less what everyone else within fellowship shares – the content is suitable for “Fellowship” but not very suitable outside.
[In reference to my comment above – I initially attempted to come off strong psychiatric drugs abruptly (with permission); and this resulted in disaster. I then carefully tapered (with help) -and this was successful.]
[I also managed to figure out the dynamic of my "High Anxiety" and to adapt around this].
Thank you very much for posting this; and it doesn’t surprise me at all!
Yes, but not successfully.
The large scale promotion of anti depressant drug usage, could be part of a broader overall campaign to to get most people onto a psychiatric drug.
Slaying the Dragon,
I fully support your contentions.
Coming off strong psychiatric drugs “triggers” a condition of “High Anxiety”, and its how a person can accommodate this, that determines the result (I nearly died in the process).
I believe the “Hearing Voices Network” is operational in Canada and I wonder where it fits in here?
If people are open about the “phenomenon” then how can it be a “crime”.
Dear Alan,
You are helping your son and lots of other people with the publication of this Article.
In my own experience once a person takes “medications” for a period of time, they become “schizophrenic” – (beyond this, I don’t believe there’s any such thing).
According to Dr Alan Frances (I believe) to be mentally ill a person has got to suffer from distress.
Psychiatric hospitals came with the Industrial Reveloution when a person wasn’t of much use Industrially if they weren’t “normal” – but there are completely legitimate environments in the real world where to be “normal” a person is not likely to survive (very well).
(Medicine today, (I believe) itself is now a completely industrial environment where to question anything can mean automatic “death”).
Cabinet approves research over family homicides:-
http://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0513/1049266-cabinet-familicide/
Body Exhumed (and Cremated)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-39867970
Dear Michael,
If people can get successfully better through normal human contact, then the “system” in place has got to be worse than useless.
Mindfulness is inexpensive and “therapy” is expensive.
Alcoholics Anonymous is inexpensive and rehab is expensive. A friend of mine attends the AA regularly and remains abstinent and happy. But his medical notes state that he is now a social drinker.
rasselas,
Nice to see you again.
Living in the real world might very frightening for lots of people that don’t at all have “schizophrenia”.
“….What is called recurrence when the patients no longer receive the drug is very often withdrawal symptoms that appear because the brain has been accustomed to the drug. …”
I Completely Agree:-
In 1980 I was happy to “decline” psychiatric drugs and to ask for psychotherapy, but by 1983 when I was given permission to discontinue Modecate depot injection, I quickly found that I could not survive without it.
By 1984 after a number of further hospitalizations I managed to stop taking the Modecate depot injection. To do this I had to switch to oral medication and to taper carefully, with psychotherapy.
It took me 6 years to reduce from 25mg of Modecate depot injection per month, to 25mg of Mellaril per day (which eventually became nothing).
What about:-
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/psychiatrist-calls-for-lithium-to-be-added-to-water-1.6272
What was the Irish Suicide Rate prior to Large Scale “Anti Depressant” Exposure?
“…Fine Gael TD and chairman of the Irish Association of Suicidology, Dan Neville, told the forum the average annual suicide rate in Ireland in the 1960s was 64-65.
He said: “Last year, 483 people died by suicide and if you add the 123 undetermined deaths, the suicide number is over 600.”…”
You can be scared and “catastrophising” and overcome this without tranquillizers (once somebody shows you how).
Lots of people have done this before you!
PIG IN THE KITCHEN.
In my own case there was NO Official Admission Procedure to my Original Maudsley Hospital UK Stay of 1980. The name of the ‘social worker’ that accompanied me to the Maudsley is NOWHERE to be found in my Records. I walked through one door and then through another door – and then, I was IN.
After this I wandered around the Hospital coming and going as I liked, without interference.
Several Maudsley “patients” even invited me to their houses, and I accepted, and one of them cooked me dinner.
At a later date (following a visit to an Irish ‘Social Worker”, at Kilburn ) Maudsley Staff attempted to “raise” a Section on me – but I wasn’t Officially “THERE” to begin with!
My Maudsley Hospital “Discharge Summary” of 1980 (as presented to the Irish Medical Council by my historical Psychiatrist Dr PA Carney) – contains NO Admission Date.
RECOVERY FROM AKATHISIA
My Reply to My GP Surgery “Delisting” Letter:-
To: Newton Medical (London W2)
Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018
Subject: Att. All Partners and Dr Baluch
Dear Sirs/(Madams)
In your Letter dated October 17 2018 – you seriously misrepresent me.
TRUST
My trust in Newton Medical was broken in October of 2012 when (to my horror) I discovered my name had been on a Severe Mental Illness Register since 2002. At this time (2002) I had been working as a Building Subcontractor in the House of Parliament Buildings (and can substantiate this).
OCTOBER 8 2018 VISIT TO NEWTON MEDICAL. REGARDING HEALTH AND SAFETY ON BUILDING SITES
On October 8 2018 I explained (and showed ) to the Reception Manager and to Dr Baluch at Newton Medical, that at my last appointment on July 20 2016 Dr Simons had given me in writing a sheet of paper from the Appointment Notes stating that – “he could see no reason that I could NOT work on a Building Site” . While at the same time Dr Simons had provided me with another sheet of paper from a “Legal Adviser” (July 20 2016)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s-mEHH5pLC5EzWpxjnOLKcylQOTJ-Kvw/view?usp=drivesdk
(which made reference to the historical 1986 Irish Record Summary) but also at the the bottom of the page stated – that I had a “Diagnosis of Schizophrenia…” and “had NOT DISPUTED this diagnosis..”.
I explained on October 8 2018 that I had shown and discussed both of these contradictory statements received in July 20 2016 with a Building Health and Safety Officer who advised me to get this contradictory situation resolved – as the medical suggestions could undermine my credibility, and could affect me in the event of an accident on a Building Site.
I have not suffered any disability in my 30 years in the UK; but Medical Claims of Present day Severe Mental Illness are invalidating. I presumed Newton Medical (promoting the disability) to be the first place to approach – this is why I called to the Surgery on October 8 2018.
DISTRESS
When I clearly demonstrated the Malpractice properties of the 1986 Irish Record Summary to Dr Simons in two interviews in October/November 2012 – at the end of both of these interviews Dr Simons shirt was completely saturated and sticking to his body (he was genuinely traumatised).
But, there is no mention anywhere on my records of this Malpractice.
MY BACKGROUND.
I made Full Recovery in 1984 as a Result of carefully tapering from the Modecate Depot Injection with the help of Practical Psychotherapy – and returned to normal life and independence.
Recovered 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PW-wn9GOkiyWAbdzgXuC8cDS-7UPEj0-/view?usp=drivesdk
Recovered 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19xYpA4O4h9h45b_H2PtSBTNFx3ErE-MK/view?usp=drivesdk
Adverse Drug Reaction Warning Request Letter sent to Galway Nov. 8 1986
ADR Request ltr Pg 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAZlVTbHdBRDFFSHc/view?usp=drivesdk
ADR Request ltr Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAZ0otNjFyN0NJajA/view?usp=drivesdk
ADR Request Ltr Pg 3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAcExwMzhEMVRzdm8/view?usp=drivesdk
MALPRACTICE:
The Irish Record Summary dated November 24 1986 was Sent To UK In Response:- but WITHOUT Requested ADR WARNING
Irish Record Summary Pg 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBATlNoNTlpYy11X28/view?usp=drivesdk
Irish Record Summary Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAMmlqS18xQVZlcms/view?usp=drivesdk
Wellness Presentation at Galway in November 1980, according to Dr Fadel https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBANjBTZEtkbjBhMkU/view?usp=drivesdk
Dr Donlon Kenny False Reasurrance Letter November 1986
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAeUFLam5rYmtXd3c/view?usp=drivesdk
AKATHISIA.
Near Fatal Modecate Experience 1. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EY4XDLt04KgmCjg_5wXU-kbVezo_DxL4/view?usp=drivesdk
Near Fatal Modecate Experience Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YTWxPJTtNeTDM9eewkHoSUJr0WpBpu4b/view?usp=drivesdk
Dr Allen Frances (DSM IV) 1983 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16313058_Suicide_Associated_with_Akathisia_and_Depot_Fluphenazine_Treatment
https://rxisk.org/akathisia/
“…Significant symptoms of akathisia occur in:
around 20% of people on an antidepressant.
at least 50% of people on an antipsychotic. On higher doses, this rises to 80% or more..”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia
“..Around half of people on antipsychotics develop the condition…”
“…..Neuro-psychologist Dennis Staker had drug-induced akathisia for two days. His description of his experience was this:
“..It was the worst feeling I have ever had in my entire life. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy…” ”
Drug induced Akathisia is medically acknowledged to cause suicide.
“Depot Antipsychotic Revisited Research Paper 1998” From Galway Psychiatrist Dr PA Carney.
https://ps.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/ps.49.10.1361-b.
About 4 out of 10 of the people on these drugs will attempt Suicide.
I notice that both Dr Simon Gordon and Dr Balucha are on the GP Commissioning Governing Board.
Yours Sincerely
(ME)
I presume you wouldn’t recommend poisoning the water supply:-
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/psychiatrist-calls-for-lithium-to-be-added-to-water-1.6272%3fmode=amp
Thanks Julie,
You’re writing is excellent, and you’re doing a great service.
I was on lithium myself and had my first suicide attempt when I came off it, but I never went back on it. And I’m happy I didn’t.
It proves the “drugs” cause the “illness” – as UK Black people are NOT 9 times more likely to be “Schizophrenic”.
Hi,
Sorry to intrude,
The comments section doesn’t seem to be moving (according to my iphone).
Fiachra
Misdiagnosis and the “Creation of “Schizophrenia”” through Strong Psychiatric Drugs (IMO).
“Schizophrenia in black Caribbeans living in the UK: an exploration of underlying causes of the high incidence rate”:-
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2418996/
“….In 2006, ÆSOP reported a ninefold increase in the risk of developing schizophrenia in black Caribbeans when compared with the white British population..”
Julie,
There’s lots of different ways of Stopping Treatment and getting Better. And there’s lots of pitfalls in the system.
https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-0430-depression-medication-20190429-story.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTIwNzQwMjQzODQ1NDM3MjI2MjUyGjExZjJkY2YyYjJkOTJiNWM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFhcUuifgRSQ_UrLJnIP4XA3WJ9gw
People need the Advice.
Graciela,
The best of life is ahead of you!
Lenora,
It makes me cringe as well. Once a talking therapist goes down the road of “diagnosis” , the “therapy” becomes a waste of time (at best).
Frank,
As far as I know Long term Mental Health Disability in the UK is at about 5% of the population.
1 in 20 Adults are claiming Severe Mental Illness Benefit in the UK.
I believe Genuine Research into this Area would identify Serious Failings in the UK Justice System, and the “Creation of Severe Mental Illness” through exposure to Strong Psychiatric Drugs.
With the Removal of “Schizophrenia” most people could make Full Recovery.
I think UK Research should focus on the “Creation of “Schizophrenia”” in the majority of Black People (9 out of 10) originally misdiagnosed with “Schizophrenia”, and subsequently exposed to Strong Psychiatric Drugs.
A UK Black person is more than 10 times more likely to be diagnosed with “Schizophrenia” than a white person in the the UK. And many more times more likely again, to be diagnosed with “Schizophrenia” than a black person in the Caribbean.
(At 10 times the National Average, UK University Kings College (I believe) were considering researching as to why “Rates of Schizophrenia” were so high in Black people in the UK).
Thanks dfk,
This is understandable and really worth reading. It’s 1000 times more worthy than a psychiatric paper.
I like Rufus May (as well) because he has personal experience, and he also has solutions. Voices are the mainstay of “Schizophrenia” and Rufus and Others are showing people how to practically accommodate them.
I’m amazed to see this getting into the NHS!
I consumed 25mg of Mellaril per day by choice. This is maybe 5% of a maintenance dose.
Hi Frank,
Human Beings have now developed technology to the point that we can replace most jobs with machines, and we have birth control which limits population size. There’s no reason not to share these benefits with everyone.
This is brilliant News! I’ve never experienced the “phenomenon” of “voices” but what works, works.
I’m glad your doing a book, there’s a few people I know who are right now in similar situations to what you were (up to when you completely turned around). I hope I’ll be able to persuade them to read it!
Lovely Julie,
I got better when I stopped Treatment!
I’ve known lots of “diagnosed” “Schizophrenics” in Ireland and not one of them had even the expected levels of violence in their backgrounds.
In London where I’ve lived for 30 years most normal men I know have a history of heavy physical interactions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg
“….At a TED talk In November 2018, Thunberg said she had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism.[11…..”
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/mental-health/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-symptoms.html
“…A delusion is a belief held with very strong conviction. Even though it’s based on a mistaken, strange or unrealistic view. It may affect the way the person behaves. Delusions can begin suddenly, or may develop over weeks or months…”
Frank,
I consumed psychiatric medication voluntarily for many years at a very reduced level. It wasnt bothering me, so I didn’t see why not.
The AA is definitely full of “nutters”, but its success rate is very high for those that attend regularly (both by way of abstinence and recovery from distress).
I was very surprised in 1983 when a Psychologist in Galway Psychiatric Unit (Ireland) assured me that everyone in the Psychiatric Unit could fully recover without medication. He also told me that he wasn’t anti medication at all, if it helped.
I didn’t believe him at the time because I was fully convinced that I couldn’t recover myself. I had tried to stop taking “my medication” and had ended up in a state, and back in Hospital.
Well said Dr Daniel.
Alex,
You’re Welcome!
Thanks Alex,
The counsellors I was provided with were in training and voluntary which was one reason I think they were so helpful. But I agree that psychotherapy is wide open to abuse.
In his book “Selfhood”, Medical Doctor Terry Lynch describes how he helps “schizophrenic” “diagnosed” people come off drugs and get their lives back. Dr Terry Lynch’s approach is what I think of as useful psychotherapy.
Very well put!
Very true Steve, as regards the drug withdrawal symptoms.
I found that when I tried to come off neuroleptics drugs, I had problems with my “head”, that I had never experienced before.
Ultimately I was able to find a means of coping with these problems – but only through good luck.
Its not just the media, it’s politicians and all the other institutions that support Psychiatry even when they are made fully aware of its damage (and uselessness).
Any commercial individual that speaks out is not likely to last long but if they stay in the group they can be protected.
Its quite easy for a person to believe in “mental illness” if they find themselves “going mad” when they try to come off psychiatric drugs. Its clear that Laura Delano found a means of coping with the difficulties of psychiatric drug withdrawal, and overcame “Severe Mental Illness” as a result of abandoning Psychiatry.
UK unemployment is now almost down to 3%; and UK long term disability is now almost up to 20%.
“…A Canadian study found that use of antidepressants doubled the likelihood that a person will go on long-term disability….”
(from the article).
Thank you Bob,
Leading “Schizophrenia” Researcher Professor Robin Murray in his podcast interview with James Moore
https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/12/professor-sir-robin-murray-reframing-psychotic-illness/
acknowledges “Neuroleptic Withdrawal Syndrome” and says that it abates after a number of months.
This was certainly NOT my experience (even with a very careful drug taper).
That’s true Steve, but sometimes a non drug (dependent) approach can cost less in the short run and in the long run.
I believe that it’s possible to get the help thats needed in the community. If you look at people that Recover this is often the path they take.
..As far as I know the Danger Aspect of “Schizophrenia” is in the taking of “Medication” – not the other way around.
Who’s paying for all of this: A “Schizophrenic” in the community costs about the same as a Medical Doctor; a Recovered Person in the community costs nothing.
Rachel (if you’re reading),
I’ve met you briefly maybe twice and you come across as being very dedicated and capable. Like you I was never suicidal until I started taking medication and never suicidal after coming off it.
I ran into serious problems when I tried to stop taking drugs suitable for schizophrenia but, luckily I did manage to work them out.
I recovered in the early 1980s in Ireland and have remained well since, and can substantiate this, but in 2002 my “schizophrenia” was revived in the UK via the Severe Mental Illness Register without assessment or discussion. I only found out by chance in 2012!
They’re not smart enough to be Psychologists if they don’t know that the solutions can be found in “Psychology”. Nobody has ever recovered through the Medical Model.
Hi Sam,
You talk about dissociation “structurally altering the brain” – I think its all more or less psychological (and/or spiritual) and the brain effects are not worth talking about in biomedical terms, as they can be “altered” again through psychological/social interaction.
You might be referring to the same thing – but what gets me is when biomedical experts think that psychological problems can be cured through brain tranquillisation.
There is a withdrawal syndrome attached to “antipsychotics” and it is very difficult to come off these drugs even with a careful drug withdrawal program.”Antipsychotic withdrawal syndrome” is medically acknowledged but the extent of the problem is not.
They do change the brain and cause “mental illness”. I refused drugs happily at the start but after consuming them for some years, I was incapable of stopping without a lot of help.
I think if a person can successfully come off drugs and recover (after years of disability benefit dependency) this proves that the non drug approach is what’s suitable.
Are these people telling lies?
The British Psychological Society:
“..The problems we think of as ‘psychosis’ – hearing voices, believing things that others find strange, or appearing out of touch with reality – can be understood in the same way as other psychological problems such as anxiety or shyness…”
There is s lot of evidence that psychiatric drugs can create psychotic symptoms in well people and this is scientifically accepted by the drug manufacturers who place WARNINGS on the drug labels (to protect their own interests).
As far as I know, the only people that genuinely recover, recover as a result of not taking their “medication”. And I can scientifically validate my own experience of this type of genuine recovery with documentary evidence from my records.
Depot Antipsychotics Revisited (a Research paper from my Historical Irish Psychiatrist)
https://ps.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/ps.49.10.1361-b
Revisited:-
When I complained about the disabling side effects of the drugs (above) I was given the option of discontinuation ; and was to experience 4 hospitalizations in the next 5 months, which were classified as Relapses.
But I eventually did come off the depot injection in 1984 through a careful taper with oral medication, and successful “Psychotherapy”; and regained my capacity to work and become fully independent.
I also consumed very low doses of oral neuroleptics
for years afterwards, until they eventually disappeared of their own accord.
(I wouldn’t have survived without the “Psychotherapy”)
Frank,
Tardive Dyskinesia (I believe) is understood to refer to “late onset movement disorder” with stereotypical symptoms attached to it.
But neuroleptics can cause lots of permanent neurological (movement) problems that seriously affect a person’s ability to function (“slowed down movement”, “muscle weaknness”, “poor co ordination”).
Recovered,
I think you’re 100 percent right. The more professionals and lay people talking honestly about the real dangers attached to Psychiatric Drugs the better.
Thank you James for another excellent contribution.
There’s loads of technical talk and big words in “Medical Papers” but the people that recover usually recover (for free) outside of the system.
“…That the focus on biological, brain-based diseases and symptoms conflicts with the experience of people who are attempting to develop a narrative view of their difficulties and suffering….”
I would say that I was just interested in getting off medication and keeping my head straight.
(In blunt terms) I believe Peter Breggin cures schizophrenia without drugs + Kelly Brogan works hard helping women avoid the SSRI trap.
It’s not just about stopping medication. I don’t know how Peter Breggin works but he exudes humanity; and I like Kelly Brogans meditation (/spiritual) approach.
Alex,
https://youtu.be/IhUGLDYV9qc
Indirectly from Thich Nhat Hanh.
Thanks Alex.
Catalyst, you know your stuff!
I believe that, Neuroleptics (/”antipsychotics”) have withdrawal syndromes that lock people into long term psychiatric dependency and disability.
I notice that most people that manage to come off Neuroleptics to recover do this in ways that are similar. Psychologist Dr Rufus May advises on drug withdrawal problems, but his advice is very similar to Psychiatrist Dr Pat Brackens.
I wouldn’t see myself coming off these drugs without some means of dealing with the psychological effects of the withdrawal syndrome – because I would go mad.
But what if the “Schizophrenic” is Homicidal??
– I tried to kill myself several times on strong psychiatric drugs, but never after coming off them (or before I ever took them).
Rachel 777,
I can back up what I’ve said with hard evidence.
Dear Dr Joanna,
Thank you for this Article.
My experience is that Prescribed Psychiatric drugs cause long term damage and disability. They also cause dependency, and this is why most people get into trouble, when they attempt to withdraw from Psychiatric drugs.
The British Psychological Society maintain that they can help people suffering from “delusions” or “hallucinations” the same way as they help people suffering from “anxiety” or “depression”:- I suffered from dreadful “High Anxiety” when I discontinued powerful neuroleptics but was able to find a psychological means to cope – so the BPS are right.
I think a solution might be to move on to the idea that there’s no such thing as “Schizophrenia” or “Bipolar”.
What this Article claims is that the original “problems” are transitory.
https://davidhealy.org/the-madness-of-young-people/
That’s for sure. And the modern society is getting worse and worse.
Thanks Jane,
I’m really happy that things eventually improved.
https://davidhealy.org/the-madness-of-young-people/
In this Article Dr David Healy suggests “Schizophrenia” is “disappearing”, but “problems” still continue, and recovery is available with careful treatment.
I know I wouldn’t have “recovered” without suitable “Psychotherapy” (/”mindfulness”).
MH is a place where an expert can say anything!
I’ve said all the above before (about racial misdiagnosing) – but it’s agreed with in this article.
https://www.mentalhealthtoday.co.uk/innovations/schizophrenias-genetic-test-patients-who-may-already-be-experiencing-delusions-might-be-lied-to-under-plans
I was chemically trapped in “schizophrenia”, and I can substantiate (with evidence) that I recovered as a result of stopping treatment (and “compensating” psychotherapy).
If practised mindfulness allows a person to detach and move into their own head where everything is (actually) safe.
I found mindfulness very useful (but I wouldn’t medicalise it).
“….Black patients are up to 17 times more likely to receive a diagnosis (of “Schizophrenia”) than white patients…” and once the misdiagnosed enter the system they become “Schizophrenic”.
Very well put!
Thanks Noel,
“Schizophrenia” can be created through the consumption of Psychiatric drugs; and the only people that I’ve ever heard of recovering from “Schizophrenia”, are those that have recovered as a result of rejecting the Psychiatric drug approach.
With mechanization, birth control, and resources the world has never been richer – but it’s being hoarded by the few.
Serious breaches identified at Mayo mental health unit
http://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/0328/1039190-mayo/
But “Serious Breaches” aren’t that serious in comparison to the Fatalities.
Sylvain,
Towards the end of my psychiatric career I nearly “died”(from Akathisia).
You’re right about the Heroin!
(Factually) There is no drug now available that can improve a person’s mental health in any real way.
“Tranquillizers”can work in the short term, but can be proven to cause worse problems in the longterm.
Psychiatric illnesses are only curable outside of Psychiatry – so Psychiatry is worse than useless.
They also “blood” them, in Psychiatry anyway!
It can’t be otherwise!
Hunger Games is very appropriate!
I can’t see an answer to Depression and Anxiety through drugs. I know myself that there are non drug solutions. I think they have to be worked at.
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/a-to-z/b/black-asian-and-minority-ethnic-bame-communities
“..Chinese people
There is very little knowledge of the extent of mental health problems in the Chinese community.
It has been suggested that the close-knit family structure of the Chinese community provides strong support for its members. While this may be beneficial, it may generate feelings of guilt and shame, resulting in people feeling stigmatised and unable to seek help…”
The Chinese don’t have much contact with the SMI Psychiatric Services and appear to remain WELL.
(Apologies if I’m wandering off topic here)
I would say that the iatrogenic problems caused by psychiatric drugs override any original problem (or that’s my experience of it).
(To prove the point:- A 2nd generation Afro Caribbean person is (factually) 10 times more likely than a white UK person to receive a diagnosis of Schizophrenia in the UK. So a reasonable percentage of these diagnosis must be False; but this does not present itself in the Recovery figures. Because (in my opinion) any person exposed to the *SMI medical system, is nearly always guaranteed to remain *SMI.
*Severely Mentally Ill).
Someone Else,
Your writing style is very professional.
“Euthanasia in Mental Health” approved of by all present day Regulators contacted (in the UK and Ireland):-
Adverse Drug Reaction Warning Request Letter sent to Galway Nov. 8 1986
ADR Warning Request ltr Pg 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAZlVTbHdBRDFFSHc/view?usp=drivesdk
ADR Warning Request ltr Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAZ0otNjFyN0NJajA/view?usp=drivesdk
ADR Warning Request Ltr Pg 3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAcExwMzhEMVRzdm8/view?usp=drivesdk
MALPRACTICE.
Irish Record Summary Sent To UK In Response:- but WITHOUT Requested ADR WARNING
1986 Irish Record Summary Pg 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBATlNoNTlpYy11X28/view?usp=drivesdk
1986 Irish Record Summary Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAMmlqS18xQVZlcms/view?usp=drivesdk
Doctors False Reasurrance Letter Nov 1986
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAeUFLam5rYmtXd3c/view?usp=drivesdk
“Depot Antipsychotic Revisited Research Paper 1998” From Galway Psychiatrist
https://ps.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/ps.49.10.1361-b.
In the UK (as far as I’m aware) the newspaper presenting the most “honest” approach to “Mental Health” is the (Right Wing) Daily Mail.
Rachel777,
What happens if they cover up the side effects, and deliberately keep Requested Adverse Drug Reaction Warnings off the records, while at the same time reassuring the patient that the Warnings have been entered, and that the patient is protected.
The best way to get a “Relapsing” Diagnosis is to come off neuroleptics abruptly.
A Slow taper is is likely to work as it leaves time to look after arising problems.
Resolution of Command Voices
https://youtu.be/wyL0jjI93OI
Dr Breggin,
Is it “okay” to kill someone in Psychiatry?
Generally speaking killing someone is not “okay”.
Many years ago I had an original “admission”; and maybe 5 following hospitalizations, all of which were suicidal, until I stopped taking “medication” to recover.
When I explained the dangers of the “medication” to my psychiatrist – he left the continent.
In my case he might have been worried about being sued – but in reality he should have been worried about being prosecuted.
He said: “You need never worry about anything”.