A person has to have the experience of going through this Process to SEE that it works.
Hi Maria,
Thanks for writing this.
I recovered from “Non Existent Schizophrenia” in 1984 as a result of not taking my medication (very carefully).
I stopped taking my Depot Injection medication on my 3rd attempt and switched to oral medication. The depot injection (which I had been taking since 1980) had been causing extrapyramidal disability.
I cut the oral medication down to a tiny dose over a period of 6 years; and the tiny dose eventually went of it’s own accord.
I used this type of Approach to deal with my Neuroleptic Withdrawal “High Anxiety”.
5,021 beds are occupied by patients who tested positive for Covid
3,855 of those patients are being treated primarily for Covid-19
This signifies that 1,166 are being treated primarily for something other than the virus..”
AKATHESIA: THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM
There’s a continuing Epidemic of Homicide, Familicide (and Suicide) in Ireland among the “Normal Population” – taking Psychiatric drugs for ‘Lifestyle Problems’.
Everybody in Ireland is extremely concerned about the situation. But there’s NO mention of the Obvious Cause:- A K A T H E S I A.
Well written Sir,
Her offence was much the same as any normal persons on a bad day.
Myself, after being forced to take drugs I didn’t want, I nearly went mad when I was given permission to come off them.
Thank You Dr Peter,
I couldn’t agree more:
“…Our citizens would be far better off if we removed all the psychotropic drugs from the market, as doctors are unable to handle them….”
:- “….For example, a study published in 1982 reported that when a group of patients with schizophrenia were each given 20 mg of fluphenazine, the difference between the highest and lowest blood level of the drug was 40-fold….”
The above drug Disabled and nearly Killed me. The Historical Psychiatrists logic for having me on the drug was that I was incapable of maintaining routine. When I pointed out to him (on advice) that the drug was physically disabling me – he took me off the drug (and I ended up in hospital).
But I made recovery as a result of carefully stopping Fluphenazine in 1984.
I think the ‘public safety’ reason is a gimmick because there are lots of so called ‘Mentally Ill’ people living independently. I think it’s about ‘Money’.
Yes Willowhead
Thank You Dr Les,
Yes, that’s what ‘antipsychotics’ do – they switch a person off.
What a person might do if they’re very anxious – is to sit with their uncomfortable feelings, until their feelings eventually calm down. From this State Of Mind – they will KNOW what to do.
When I stopped taking “my medication” I became sick, so I did believe in the Diagnosis. But then I noticed that if I carefully cut “the medication” I didn’t become sick – but I suffered from a terrible Anxiety – that I had never suffered from before.
Over the years I was able to accommodate the Anxiety with trial and error techniques. After this I was mostly able to overcome the Anxiety. But the process took years.
But the Hospitalizations, Suicide Attempts, Disability and Psychiatric Dependency stopped near enough as soon as I took charge of matters myself.
In 2018 I visited one of the doctors who came in at the end of my treatment in the 1980s at Galway Southern Ireland. His opinion was, that the treatments had been the problem.
Thank You Nijinsky
The chap I mentioned came off substance without medications, and has remained consistently well and operational.
When you mention medication through the “back door” I see what you mean. There seems to be a big drive in society to Diagnose and Medicate the population with trendy people being used to represent “Positive Mental Illness”.
In the Normal way people can be represented through the “Legal System” but in “Mental Health” they can be represented through “Doctors Opinion” (which in “Mental Health” can be anything).
Thanks for the Article,
I was talking to a chap last week who very coherently shared much the same as what this Article has represented! Substance was his solution, and he could only stop taking it when he found the source of his problem. He was very happy to discover that he had to adapt, and he professed at the age of almost 60 he was really happy in life! His message was one of joy!
(The World is still often geared up towards exploitation and lots of people suffer from one form or another of PTSD – but this chap also seemed to know how to negotiate his way through this).
Who Are The “Individuals With Long Term Psychosis”???
“…Individuals with long-term psychosis often do not share whether or how they are using APM [antipsychotic medication] nor the strategies they may utilize as alternatives to APM. In combination with overly simplistic, dichotomized measures of adherence, this tendency has arguably led to the impoverishment of research on APM use,” they write….”
If they are dealing with “Long Term Psychosis” – then they DON’T have “Long Term Psychosis”.
VERBODEN
Defense LAWYERS representing people charged with “Out of Character Homicide and Familicide” seem to rarely raise the possibility of Psychiatric Drug Induced Fallout i.e. Akathisia – even when the circumstances strongly suggest it.
The most scientific explanation is left missing.
“…He pointed out that many people had tried to warn against them for many years but had been silenced or fired from their positions from where they could reach the population…”
It’s difficult to do much against Criminality if the Criminality has Official Support.
Thank you again Dr Peter,
People often say that a person should listen to their doctor and follow the doctors advice regarding medication. But if I was to do this I wouldn’t still be alive.
The Psychiatrist offered me an abrupt withdrawal from Neuroleptics and I nearly finished myself off in the process, until I realised that I would have to respect the potential compromisation of these drugs, and withdraw over a period of more than 5 years.
But I got there in the end.
Cognitive Dissonance
I believe that its Medically well accepted that Psychiatric Drugs can cause Suicide and Homicide either through “Akathisia” or “Psychiatric Drug Induced Intoxication”.
But, when it happens there seems to be a type “ELEPHANT in the Living Room” Reaction from Responsible Professionals, especially with cases of Homicide and Familicide.
Psychiatric Drug Induced Homicide and Familicide, can usually be identified by its “Out of Character, Extreme Expression” (and the “Stopping, Starting, or Changing, of a Psychiatric Medication”).
The Professional DENIAL (I believe) stems from the FACT that the Phenomenon is too Frightening to be Acknowledged…
I Never attempted suicide before going on strong Psychiatric Drugs (suitable for Schizophrenia) and I never attempted Suicide after coming off strong Psychiatric Drugs.(suitable for Schizophrenia).
I suffered from longterm withdrawal syndrome (compulsive anxiety) that could have driven me mad. So I was satisfied to reduce medications rather than stop. I took as long as I liked. But the medication did stop eventually, and I was amazed when it did.
We are all doomed..! The whole world might be doomed!
Above and beyond the lunacy of Psychiatry there is such a thing as genuine human distress. But genuine peace of mind and reasonable happiness can also exist.
“….: “Everybody around you is telling me you’re not complying,” “You’re not doing well,”‘ Arminak said. ‘”Therefore, I’m going to put you in inpatient treatment.” “Therefore you are going to be institutionalized.” “Therefore, things are going to change for you.” And as we know from Britney’s testimony, that’s exactly what happened to her.’..”
What’s complying? And What’s doing well? All a persons got to do is live their life, surely?
On the Subject of Britney Spears Victimization.
Famous British Actor Comedian and Commentator Russell Brand ..
..Is supposed to have been diagnosed with at least Bi Polar but no Court is following him around trying to steal his money. He’s also allowed as far as I know, to have productive sexual intercourse.
Famous British Actor Comedian and ‘Wit’ Stephen Fry..
…is also supposed to suffer from Bi Polar – but he’s allowed to operate as an independent human being. He was allowed to get married when he wanted to.
Lots of famous Celebrities have acted out against journalists (and they shouldn’t) – but it doesn’t justify a life sentence.
“…Amina Manzoor from Dagens Nyheter replied that her editor thought it would be too dangerous to explain to Swedish citizens that depression pills are dangerous, as they can cause suicide! …”
It’s like something out of the “Sopranos” – only 1,000 times worse.
(..the depression pills also cause Homicide and often Familicide … and when this happens the Elephant in the Living Room is – the Depression PILLS…).
(..sssh.. let’s just pretend it’s NOT the Depression PILLS…)
Dr Peter, I look forward every week to your article.
Most “Antidepressants” are prescribed by General Practitioners, and this might seem like a Stupid Question:- But are the General Practitioners that prescribe the “Antidepressants” actually aware that these drugs can cause Suicide and Homicide?
Thank You Peter,
“..and propose a paradigm shift based on existing, successful alternatives…”
The successful alternatives are definitely available:- Counselling Psychotherapy, Community Support, Meditation, Buddhism, Mindfulness, Peer Group Support, Yoga, Hearing Voices Network, Twelve Step, Emotions Anonymous, GROW.
Psychiatric Drugs rarely help people to improve (as far as I can see). I would hold Psychiatric Drugs responsible for the years I’ve lost getting myself back together following the damage of drug exposure.
The vast majority of the so called “schizophrenics” in this contingent have been misdiagnosed BUT are trapped in Long Term Drug Disability:-
I believe the idea behind MDMA being a ‘game changer’ in Psychotherapy, is that it can help people discuss terrible life experience. I mentioned this in an Independant Peer Group some time ago and the room erupted in laughter.
Within Peer Groups I have seen people openly and willingly discuss the most traumatic experiences imaginable.
The reason Peers can volunteer to discuss very deep personal experiences is because they have ‘permission’ to discuss them, and they know that they are in a suitable place to do so.
They also discuss how they recovered and moved on to successful lives.
(There is a lot of laughter in these groups).
Thank You Charlotte,
It’s the Public Kidnapping and Abuse of a human being.
I’ve been on lithium myself many years ago and I was as dead as a door nail while on it. When I came off the lithium I went “high” and remained “high” for a quite a while – but just about “under the top”. Previous to going on lithium I had never suffered from Elation or Clinical Depression (it was just another drug used on me).
When I related my experiences to the Psychiatrist, he said that lithium can sometimes act as a “Vacuum to Mood”.
I’m very glad to be off all drugs for a long time and feeling Okay (but only after serious adjustment to the damage done).
Someone Else
I think you hit the nail on the head here:-
“….And I have yet to research into this, but we may be living through the most deadly psychiatric holocaust ever, given how many decades the psychiatrists have been doing this. …”
Does the man above in the YouTube interview look happy fulfilled and engaged in his life – while fully aware of life’s downsides.
(At his age most “Severely Mentally Ill” people are no longer around)
If you look at the music industry lots of famous musicians have gone off the rails, had some therapy and returned again, with full credibility.
Britney Spears might have (many years ago) demonstrated her emotions, reacted to intrusive journalists, and ‘shaved her head’. So why is she being treated so unfairly?
If it’s not up to standard – it’s a money making scheme.
“…In 2006, ÆSOP reported a ninefold increase in the risk of developing schizophrenia in black Caribbeans when compared with the white British population..”
It’s extremely difficult to withdraw from Neuroleptics, so Schizophrenia Diagnosis usually means Lifelong Psychiatric Disability.
Coming off Neuroleptics (with permission, abruptly ) I had 4 hospitalizations and a suicide attempt until I decided to taper very carefully and successfully from the drugs over a number of years.
“..Don’t take it as a defeat if you fail; just try again some other time. ..” Exactly!
Thank You again, Dr Gøtzsche
“…1. WARNING! Psychiatric drugs are addictive. Never stop them abruptly, because withdrawal reactions may consist of severe emotional and physical symptoms that can be dangerous and lead to suicide, violence, and homicide.6….”
Yes: “Rebounds” as a result of Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal – can be a lot more “Intense” than original “Problems”.
Thank You Lisa,
This story is really frightening but it will save lives.
I’m very sorry for what happened to your son Marcello and your family (in my case after some years things got better and then better again).
World wide theres probably an epidemic of Akathisia Deaths and Damage out there and this is what Big Pharma and its supporters are frightened of.
If the Western World is compared to the Developing World it can be seen that most people aren’t really enduringly sick, and that they can get back on their feet again with a little help.
My heart goes out to Dannielle Attree. I tried to kill myself several times in Psychiatry, but never since leaving. Theres no point in us complaining about regimes in other countries if we torture and abuse innocent people in this country.
This is Eckhart Tolle discussing the “Pain Body” (of unconscious thought)….
“…The apparent fact that most therapists have little or no idea how to accomplish this is a huge condemnation of the subject….” – Most therapists would have LITTLE OR NO IDEA of what you are just after explaining.
“…We must assume that figuring this out, and thereby really helping people, was not their major purpose in getting into the field of psychology. What, then, was?..” – Wasting Time, and getting paid for Wasting Time.
Thank You for your Wise Words Dr. Gøtzsche,
“…Most doctors, and psychiatrists are no exception, expose their patients to cold turkey withdrawal …”
It surprises me that most doctors are not aware after 60+ years of Neuroleptics, that these drugs have massive withdrawal problems; and that practically every so called “relapse” is NOT a ‘genuine relapse’ but a legitimate drug withdrawal “Rebound”. In my opinion this state of affairs should not be tolerated in a ‘Medicine’.
For me very slow neuroleptic withdrawal was best. At that rate I could recognise the weaknesses and take precautionary action.
Dr Peter Breggin (I believe) has described Neuroleptic Withdrawal Syndrome as a type of ‘Drug induced PTSD’. I believe that if people can successfully adapt to this Chemical ‘PTSD’ through effective psychological means – then this us where the Non Drug Cure for “Schizophrenia” lies.
I agree Someone Else,
Psychiatry seems to prolong the problem and make it a lot lot worse. Whereas what’s needed are decent solutions, and there are decent solutions available.
As far as Prozac goes:- The UK Health System is now pulling away from “antidepressants” due to what you describe above.
I don’t know what anyone elses experience is. But if I was to follow my automatic instincts when in distress my thinking would reinforce my anxiety and create “endless” circular anxiety
If I don’t engage my circular thinking my anxiety eventually runs out of steam – and then there is no anxiety. My mind comes into acceptance mode and I can look at the same problems, without distress and see what I can do about them.
So far this has worked for me.
I didn’t suffer a lot of Anxiety around Covid 19 – but I did (historically) suffer from “Tremendous Anxiety” when withdrawing from long term “Antipsychotic” Injections “suitable” for “Schizophrenia”- and this was when I found my relief.
We do have to deal with the burglars as well!
Thank You Madison,
USA
How many times more likely is an American Black person to be “diagnosed” with “Schizophrenia” in the USA in comparison to an American White Person?
“….In 2006, ÆSOP reported a ninefold increase in the risk of developing schizophrenia in black Caribbeans when compared with the white British population….”
It’s pure Kangaroo Court behaviour in Broad Daylight.
Thanks Peter,
“….If the drugs prevent relapse, then stopping them could lead to a return of the experiences (such as anxiety or depression) that made the person seek them out in the first place..”
A lot of Depression is fuelled by Anxiety – and there are reasonable non drug ways to overcome “Anxiety”.
Thank you Peter.
I’ve seen the inflammation(/depression) idea circulating quite a bit and I was wondering what was in it.
“..The problems we think of as ‘psychosis’ – hearing voices, believing things that others find strange, or appearing out of touch with reality – can be understood in the same way as other psychological problems such as anxiety or shyness…”
In my own personal experience this is true – its not a theory. This is the way forward.
Lovely! Thank you Lauren.
Doctors in the UK are fiddling Records in Mental Health to hide situations where a person with “Diagnosis” – could be killed. The Documentary Evidence is Below:
It’s occurred to me that a lot of “depression”, is closely linked to “anxiety” (which most people experience, at one level or another).
My epipheny was that it was possible to do something about anxiety. Without this discovery, I would never have successfully withdrawn from “medication”.
MEDICAL DENIAL OF FULL RECOVERY – 30 YEARS AFTER FULL RECOVERY
From: ME
To: Medical Newton (NHS CENTRAL LONDON (WESTMINSTER) CCG)
Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018, 00:42:07 GMT
Subject: Att. All Partners and Dr Baluch
Dear Sirs/(Madams)
In your Letter dated October 17 2018 – you seriously misrepresent me.
TRUST
My trust in Newton Medical was broken in October of 2012 when (to my horror) I discovered my name had been on a Severe Mental Illness Register since 2002. At this time (2002) I had been working as a Building Subcontractor in the House of Parliament Buildings (and can substantiate this).
OCTOBER 8 2018 VISIT TO NEWTON MEDICAL. REGARDING HEALTH AND SAFETY ON BUILDING SITES
On October 8 2018 I explained (and showed ) to the Reception Manager and to Dr Baluch at Newton Medical, that at my last appointment on July 20 2016 Dr Simons had given me in writing a sheet of paper from the Appointment Notes stating that – “he could see no reason that I could NOT work on a Building Site” . While at the same time Dr Simons had provided me with another sheet of paper from a “Legal Adviser” (July 20 2016)
(which made reference to the historical 1986 Irish Record Summary) but also at the the bottom of the page stated – that I had a “Diagnosis of Schizophrenia…” and “had NOT DISPUTED this diagnosis..”.
I explained on October 8 2018 that I had shown and discussed both of these contradictory statements received in July 20 2016 with a Building Health and Safety Officer who advised me to get this contradictory situation resolved – as the medical suggestions could undermine my credibility, and could affect me in the event of an accident on a Building Site.
I have not suffered any disability in my 30 years in the UK; but Medical Claims of Present day Severe Mental Illness are invalidating. I presumed Newton Medical (promoting the disability) to be the first place to approach – this is why I called to the Surgery on October 8 2018.
DISTRESS
When I clearly demonstrated the Malpractice properties of the 1986 Irish Record Summary to Dr Simons in two interviews in October/November 2012 – at the end of both of these interviews Dr Simons shirt was completely saturated and sticking to his body (he was genuinely traumatised).
But, there is no mention anywhere on my records of this Malpractice.
MY BACKGROUND
I made Full Recovery in 1984 as a Result of carefully tapering from the Modecate Depot Injection with the help of Practical Psychotherapy – and returned to normal life and independence.
“…Patients who come to the Central Mental Hospital from the criminal courts have usually pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, or NGRI for short. The most typical patient is a man suffering from schizophrenia who has stopped taking his medication and has killed a family member – often a parent….”
It’s well known Medically that people that come off Strong Psychiatric Drugs abruptly can go completely MAD – even if they were completely SANE to begin with.
Thank you Dr Peter for this contribution,
“…These principles have been known for decades and were explained in an instructive paper in Lancet Psychiatry on 5 March 2019 by Horowitz and Taylor…” – This has got to be true, but it’s a good service to have it recorded in Black and White.
This is why people in crisis should be helped by people with personal experience of crisis.
It’s also possible for people to regain calm through advice, without breaking confidentiality.
Dear Dr E Baden, thank you for writing this.
“…lays hold on weapons and wounds himself, in such ways that his family is obliged to keep watch on him. ..”
“…lays hold on weapons and wounds himself…” – but not anyone else.
Thank you for your service and for relating this story, Kathleen.
It is terrible the way veterans are being treated.
They are highly dependency forming. Have you ever heard of a drug that can drive a person mad (that was never mad before) as a result of stopping?
By biting it in 4! It bites easy!
Thank You Dr Peter,
I came off Neuroleptics very carefully, but like the person you mentioned – I didn’t come back ‘the same’. I suffered from Overwhelming Anxiety and would eventually have had to return to neuroleptics, if I hadn’t found ways of dealing with my ‘drug induced PTSD’.
I discovered through ‘trial and error’ that if I ‘sat with my feelings for long enough’ that they eventually subsided, and that my mental balance returned. This was a lot more difficult to do, than it sounds!
The ‘Psychotherapeutic’ Approach is described below:-
My original introduction to Psychiatry in 1980 was fairly ‘irregular’.
“….citing a medical report that the judge refused to let him see…”
A Medical Report in Mental Health can represent an impression of what a Clinic might like to promote. It’s not the same as a Medical Report in Normal Medicine that represents Factual information.
Nobody wipes a tear from their eye in peer groups when men (or women) share their most intimate tragedies – because this would be disrespectful. These groups are independent and self supporting, and know how to deal with the private reality of life.
Most ‘Professional Mental Health Support’ is now at a level of pure duplicity.
Any one telling tales in an independent Peer Group would be pointing the finger at themselves for attending the Peer group to begin with. So confidentiality is fairly secure.
Professionals generally speaking want to be in charge and want to get paid. Human Connecion and Mutuality is a completely different thing.
Thank you for this contribution Megan. About 2 hrs ago I was just thinking about how much “double speak” there is out there, and it always comes from those in Power!
Dr Gabor Maté is a very interesting person!
Hi Kathleen,
I’m very sorry to hear about your Pharmageddon.
I was prescribed 25mg per day (/night) (for “Schizophrenia”) of Seroquel in 2005 (which I cut to about 6mg per day). I stopped taking my 6mg per day same years later – and suffered from insomnia as a result, which I still have but can live with.
– You would have been prescribed over 100 times what I was taking.
The Seroquel at 6mg per night was also a Wonder Drug for me, until it began to give me ‘scary drops on my heart beat’; with the upper part of my body being ‘a soft pink and the rest of me pure white’ on awakening in the morning. This might be why Seroquel has a Black Box rating.
[The last Doctor I saw in 1984 reformulated my ‘Schizophrenia’ Opinion in 2018 to ‘Nothing’ ].
Good Morning Sam,
“Inclusion” was exactly what the Quakers offered.
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Too true Willoweed,
In my case the University Hospital I had attended actively doctored my records – so that I could potentially be killed.
BBC News – ‘My doctor prescribed rambling for lockdown anxiety’
“….I began to warn strongly against the suicide risk of the pills…”
The logic I believe behind these “pills” is that they CAN cause suicide – but that they PREVENT more suicides.
I’m not so sure – because from my own experience I did request in writing that drugs I had taken be warned against and I described Akathisia fairly well in my historical letter – but doctors lied to me about my protection. And many years later present day doctors also covered up on behalf of these doctors.
My historical doctors had been promoting the drugs via Research papers even after I had warned them about the Suicidal risk.
Ultimately my ADR Warning Request letter had the University Hospital Stamp on it, My historical Record Summary minus any ADR Warning had the University Hospital Stamp on it. The Historical Doctors False Reassurance Letter had the University Hospital Stamp on it. And a subsequent 1998 Research Paper Recommending the Suicidal Drugs as reliable also had the University credentials attached to it.
The Suicidal Drugs (Fluphenazine) were eventually removed from the market (circa 2015) after 60 years usage due to “Reliability of Supply Problems”.
.. My Historical Records 1980 – 1984, had described me as a “Dreadful Schizophrenic” – but I recovered fully in 1984 as a result of STOPPING Fluphenazine – NOT as a result of taking Fluphenazine.
I second that, and this is your best book yet.
Hi Steve,
I bought the book this afternoon, on Kindle for £10.00 – it’s very organised and interesting and compulsively readable.
Everybody suffers from PTSD (to an extent) as a result of life experience. For some people their life experience is such, that it eventually kills them.
It’s also possible to suffer from a type of (potentially disabling) drug induced PTSD.
Eckhart Tolle (also featured by Oprah Winfrey) promotes solutions for PTSD through the observation of what he describes as the “Pain Body”. His technique does work, but it takes practice.
Oprah Winfrey, is a fantastic humanity interviewer.
Dr Welby V Dr Shipman
If MH doctors are fiddling Records that could result in a patient being medically killed, and other doctors are covering this up (as below) –
It sounds like they can do whatever they want including killing and maiming their patients – I wonder why?
Is it because the industry already controls the Politicians (who won’t have jobs unless the industry supports them). And since most “MH” is paid for out of Public Funds – these Funds can pay for more and more invented “Mental Illness”.
At the moment in the UK 17% of adults are on “antidepressants” ; another percentage are on “Valiums”; some more are on unnecessary opiods; and more are on “antipsychotics” (on label and off label).
Psychiatric drugs can drive someone mad enough to Kill themselves or someone else. Psychiatric Drugs can also suppress normal social caution, which can result in a person behaving in a way they would never normally behave in. These phenomenon are factual.
It’s useful to see this presented in Black and White.
Hi Ricky
The only thing Haloperidol can do is drive a person mad. It doesn’t surprise me that you recovered as a result of stopping ‘your medication’.
I hope I’m not wandering too far away from the subject:
“…There is no reliable evidence that the psychosis per se can damage the brain…”
I notice the heavy use of Anti Epileptic drugs is mentioned in this article. Are these drugs damaging to the brain?
“….- Create a closed system of thinking impervious to criticism, logic or evidence….”
This one resonates with me!
I think J Paul Getty said the above.
But if it’s acceptable practise for doctors to ‘Cover Akathisia Up’ in a patients records – then this would explain the mystery increase in Suicide/Familicide/Homicide at Ireland.
(…and why the Irish Medical Council avoided the subject when I brought it up with them).
This would be the most recent tragic familicide – though the background circmstances are not clear.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1469931/mother-baby-northern-ireland-arrested-police-liam-okeefe
Worldwide Discontinuation of Fluphenazine began at about 2015 – for reasons of ‘supply unreliability’.
This Drug has Killed many many people – forced to take it against their wishes.
At times the drug “might” have been used as a means of Medical Execution.
Why do expensive and sometimes useless medications get promoted in European countries with National Health Systems?
Is it because Pharmaceutical Companies can at one level or another, Reward The People that Govern these National Health Systems?
It certainly looks like lots of people over the age of 50 really need to be on these drugs for their own long term security – I DON’T think.
You’re right Sam,
Its animalistic.
Psychiatrist Dr David R Hawkins describes the “sitting with feelings” Process in the Youtube Video (below):-
https://youtu.be/YWvIZ9Dcyb8
A person has to have the experience of going through this Process to SEE that it works.
Hi Maria,
Thanks for writing this.
I recovered from “Non Existent Schizophrenia” in 1984 as a result of not taking my medication (very carefully).
I stopped taking my Depot Injection medication on my 3rd attempt and switched to oral medication. The depot injection (which I had been taking since 1980) had been causing extrapyramidal disability.
I cut the oral medication down to a tiny dose over a period of 6 years; and the tiny dose eventually went of it’s own accord.
I used this type of Approach to deal with my Neuroleptic Withdrawal “High Anxiety”.
https://youtu.be/YWvIZ9Dcyb8
(Dr David R Hawkins)
It Works!
BBC News – Covid: Up to one in four admitted to hospital for other reasons:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58025045
“..The latest statistics, for 27 July 2021, show:
5,021 beds are occupied by patients who tested positive for Covid
3,855 of those patients are being treated primarily for Covid-19
This signifies that 1,166 are being treated primarily for something other than the virus..”
AKATHESIA: THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM
There’s a continuing Epidemic of Homicide, Familicide (and Suicide) in Ireland among the “Normal Population” – taking Psychiatric drugs for ‘Lifestyle Problems’.
Everybody in Ireland is extremely concerned about the situation. But there’s NO mention of the Obvious Cause:- A K A T H E S I A.
Well written Sir,
Her offence was much the same as any normal persons on a bad day.
Myself, after being forced to take drugs I didn’t want, I nearly went mad when I was given permission to come off them.
Thank You Dr Peter,
I couldn’t agree more:
“…Our citizens would be far better off if we removed all the psychotropic drugs from the market, as doctors are unable to handle them….”
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/better-without-antipsychotic-drugs
:- “….For example, a study published in 1982 reported that when a group of patients with schizophrenia were each given 20 mg of fluphenazine, the difference between the highest and lowest blood level of the drug was 40-fold….”
The above drug Disabled and nearly Killed me. The Historical Psychiatrists logic for having me on the drug was that I was incapable of maintaining routine. When I pointed out to him (on advice) that the drug was physically disabling me – he took me off the drug (and I ended up in hospital).
But I made recovery as a result of carefully stopping Fluphenazine in 1984.
Dr Allen Frances (DSM IV) 1983
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16313058_Suicide_Associated_with_Akathisia_and_Depot_Fluphenazine_Treatment
I think the ‘public safety’ reason is a gimmick because there are lots of so called ‘Mentally Ill’ people living independently. I think it’s about ‘Money’.
Yes Willowhead
Thank You Dr Les,
Yes, that’s what ‘antipsychotics’ do – they switch a person off.
What a person might do if they’re very anxious – is to sit with their uncomfortable feelings, until their feelings eventually calm down. From this State Of Mind – they will KNOW what to do.
BBC News – Daily Covid cases down for third day in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57942217
When I stopped taking “my medication” I became sick, so I did believe in the Diagnosis. But then I noticed that if I carefully cut “the medication” I didn’t become sick – but I suffered from a terrible Anxiety – that I had never suffered from before.
Over the years I was able to accommodate the Anxiety with trial and error techniques. After this I was mostly able to overcome the Anxiety. But the process took years.
But the Hospitalizations, Suicide Attempts, Disability and Psychiatric Dependency stopped near enough as soon as I took charge of matters myself.
In 2018 I visited one of the doctors who came in at the end of my treatment in the 1980s at Galway Southern Ireland. His opinion was, that the treatments had been the problem.
Thank You Nijinsky
The chap I mentioned came off substance without medications, and has remained consistently well and operational.
When you mention medication through the “back door” I see what you mean. There seems to be a big drive in society to Diagnose and Medicate the population with trendy people being used to represent “Positive Mental Illness”.
In the Normal way people can be represented through the “Legal System” but in “Mental Health” they can be represented through “Doctors Opinion” (which in “Mental Health” can be anything).
Thanks for the Article,
I was talking to a chap last week who very coherently shared much the same as what this Article has represented! Substance was his solution, and he could only stop taking it when he found the source of his problem. He was very happy to discover that he had to adapt, and he professed at the age of almost 60 he was really happy in life! His message was one of joy!
(The World is still often geared up towards exploitation and lots of people suffer from one form or another of PTSD – but this chap also seemed to know how to negotiate his way through this).
Who Are The “Individuals With Long Term Psychosis”???
“…Individuals with long-term psychosis often do not share whether or how they are using APM [antipsychotic medication] nor the strategies they may utilize as alternatives to APM. In combination with overly simplistic, dichotomized measures of adherence, this tendency has arguably led to the impoverishment of research on APM use,” they write….”
If they are dealing with “Long Term Psychosis” – then they DON’T have “Long Term Psychosis”.
VERBODEN
Defense LAWYERS representing people charged with “Out of Character Homicide and Familicide” seem to rarely raise the possibility of Psychiatric Drug Induced Fallout i.e. Akathisia – even when the circumstances strongly suggest it.
The most scientific explanation is left missing.
“…He pointed out that many people had tried to warn against them for many years but had been silenced or fired from their positions from where they could reach the population…”
It’s difficult to do much against Criminality if the Criminality has Official Support.
Thank you again Dr Peter,
People often say that a person should listen to their doctor and follow the doctors advice regarding medication. But if I was to do this I wouldn’t still be alive.
The Psychiatrist offered me an abrupt withdrawal from Neuroleptics and I nearly finished myself off in the process, until I realised that I would have to respect the potential compromisation of these drugs, and withdraw over a period of more than 5 years.
But I got there in the end.
Cognitive Dissonance
I believe that its Medically well accepted that Psychiatric Drugs can cause Suicide and Homicide either through “Akathisia” or “Psychiatric Drug Induced Intoxication”.
But, when it happens there seems to be a type “ELEPHANT in the Living Room” Reaction from Responsible Professionals, especially with cases of Homicide and Familicide.
Psychiatric Drug Induced Homicide and Familicide, can usually be identified by its “Out of Character, Extreme Expression” (and the “Stopping, Starting, or Changing, of a Psychiatric Medication”).
The Professional DENIAL (I believe) stems from the FACT that the Phenomenon is too Frightening to be Acknowledged…
…Even though it’s Fully Accepted to Exist.
Russell Brand…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Brand
…On Britney Spears
https://youtu.be/8tbJkgAYCwI
I Never attempted suicide before going on strong Psychiatric Drugs (suitable for Schizophrenia) and I never attempted Suicide after coming off strong Psychiatric Drugs.(suitable for Schizophrenia).
HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14BPUx2t9SzgeHPqz6uaEzrbg7L__4xEC/view?usp=drivesdk
Thanks for this.
I suffered from longterm withdrawal syndrome (compulsive anxiety) that could have driven me mad. So I was satisfied to reduce medications rather than stop. I took as long as I liked. But the medication did stop eventually, and I was amazed when it did.
We are all doomed..! The whole world might be doomed!
Above and beyond the lunacy of Psychiatry there is such a thing as genuine human distress. But genuine peace of mind and reasonable happiness can also exist.
“….: “Everybody around you is telling me you’re not complying,” “You’re not doing well,”‘ Arminak said. ‘”Therefore, I’m going to put you in inpatient treatment.” “Therefore you are going to be institutionalized.” “Therefore, things are going to change for you.” And as we know from Britney’s testimony, that’s exactly what happened to her.’..”
What’s complying? And What’s doing well? All a persons got to do is live their life, surely?
On the Subject of Britney Spears Victimization.
Famous British Actor Comedian and Commentator Russell Brand ..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Brand
..Is supposed to have been diagnosed with at least Bi Polar but no Court is following him around trying to steal his money. He’s also allowed as far as I know, to have productive sexual intercourse.
Famous British Actor Comedian and ‘Wit’ Stephen Fry..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry
…is also supposed to suffer from Bi Polar – but he’s allowed to operate as an independent human being. He was allowed to get married when he wanted to.
Lots of famous Celebrities have acted out against journalists (and they shouldn’t) – but it doesn’t justify a life sentence.
“…Amina Manzoor from Dagens Nyheter replied that her editor thought it would be too dangerous to explain to Swedish citizens that depression pills are dangerous, as they can cause suicide! …”
It’s like something out of the “Sopranos” – only 1,000 times worse.
(..the depression pills also cause Homicide and often Familicide … and when this happens the Elephant in the Living Room is – the Depression PILLS…).
(..sssh.. let’s just pretend it’s NOT the Depression PILLS…)
Dr Peter, I look forward every week to your article.
Most “Antidepressants” are prescribed by General Practitioners, and this might seem like a Stupid Question:- But are the General Practitioners that prescribe the “Antidepressants” actually aware that these drugs can cause Suicide and Homicide?
Thank You Peter,
“..and propose a paradigm shift based on existing, successful alternatives…”
The successful alternatives are definitely available:- Counselling Psychotherapy, Community Support, Meditation, Buddhism, Mindfulness, Peer Group Support, Yoga, Hearing Voices Network, Twelve Step, Emotions Anonymous, GROW.
Psychiatric Drugs rarely help people to improve (as far as I can see). I would hold Psychiatric Drugs responsible for the years I’ve lost getting myself back together following the damage of drug exposure.
The vast majority of the so called “schizophrenics” in this contingent have been misdiagnosed BUT are trapped in Long Term Drug Disability:-
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2418996/
Thank You Daniel.
I believe the idea behind MDMA being a ‘game changer’ in Psychotherapy, is that it can help people discuss terrible life experience. I mentioned this in an Independant Peer Group some time ago and the room erupted in laughter.
Within Peer Groups I have seen people openly and willingly discuss the most traumatic experiences imaginable.
The reason Peers can volunteer to discuss very deep personal experiences is because they have ‘permission’ to discuss them, and they know that they are in a suitable place to do so.
They also discuss how they recovered and moved on to successful lives.
(There is a lot of laughter in these groups).
Thank You Charlotte,
It’s the Public Kidnapping and Abuse of a human being.
I’ve been on lithium myself many years ago and I was as dead as a door nail while on it. When I came off the lithium I went “high” and remained “high” for a quite a while – but just about “under the top”. Previous to going on lithium I had never suffered from Elation or Clinical Depression (it was just another drug used on me).
When I related my experiences to the Psychiatrist, he said that lithium can sometimes act as a “Vacuum to Mood”.
I’m very glad to be off all drugs for a long time and feeling Okay (but only after serious adjustment to the damage done).
Someone Else
I think you hit the nail on the head here:-
“….And I have yet to research into this, but we may be living through the most deadly psychiatric holocaust ever, given how many decades the psychiatrists have been doing this. …”
Does the man above in the YouTube interview look happy fulfilled and engaged in his life – while fully aware of life’s downsides.
(At his age most “Severely Mentally Ill” people are no longer around)
Thank You Again Dr Peter,
The Research (below) is reliable:-
Success with Peer Group Support….
https://youtu.be/YT2ecA6bJ1c
…from Diagnoses of: Schizophrenia, Schizoaffective Disorder, Depression, Bi Polar,
Shyness, Anxiety etc.
https://connachttribune.ie/highlighting-power-peer-support-mental-illness-recovery-300/
“..The (PhD.) research findings and stories have been published as a book entitled Narratives of Recovery from Mental Illness…”
“…Those interviewed had mental health difficulties including bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, anxiety and depression…”
https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/the-transformative-power-of-peer-support-in-recovering-from-mental-illness/
If you look at the music industry lots of famous musicians have gone off the rails, had some therapy and returned again, with full credibility.
Britney Spears might have (many years ago) demonstrated her emotions, reacted to intrusive journalists, and ‘shaved her head’. So why is she being treated so unfairly?
If it’s not up to standard – it’s a money making scheme.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2418996/
“…In 2006, ÆSOP reported a ninefold increase in the risk of developing schizophrenia in black Caribbeans when compared with the white British population..”
It’s extremely difficult to withdraw from Neuroleptics, so Schizophrenia Diagnosis usually means Lifelong Psychiatric Disability.
Coming off Neuroleptics (with permission, abruptly ) I had 4 hospitalizations and a suicide attempt until I decided to taper very carefully and successfully from the drugs over a number of years.
“..Don’t take it as a defeat if you fail; just try again some other time. ..” Exactly!
Thank You again, Dr Gøtzsche
“…1. WARNING! Psychiatric drugs are addictive. Never stop them abruptly, because withdrawal reactions may consist of severe emotional and physical symptoms that can be dangerous and lead to suicide, violence, and homicide.6….”
Yes: “Rebounds” as a result of Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal – can be a lot more “Intense” than original “Problems”.
Thank You Lisa,
This story is really frightening but it will save lives.
I’m very sorry for what happened to your son Marcello and your family (in my case after some years things got better and then better again).
World wide theres probably an epidemic of Akathisia Deaths and Damage out there and this is what Big Pharma and its supporters are frightened of.
Page 1 NEAR FATAL MODECATE EXPERIENCE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EY4XDLt04KgmCjg_5wXU-kbVezo_DxL4/view?usp=drivesdk
Page 2 NEAR FATAL MODECATE EXPERIENCE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YTWxPJTtNeTDM9eewkHoSUJr0WpBpu4b/view?usp=drivesdk
Identified by Dr Allen Frances and Others in 1983
https://insights.ovid.com/clinical-psychopharmacology/jcps/1983/08/000/suicide-associated-akathisia-depot-fluphenazine/6/00004714
Discontinued Circa 2015
Hi Bob,
If the Western World is compared to the Developing World it can be seen that most people aren’t really enduringly sick, and that they can get back on their feet again with a little help.
My heart goes out to Dannielle Attree. I tried to kill myself several times in Psychiatry, but never since leaving. Theres no point in us complaining about regimes in other countries if we torture and abuse innocent people in this country.
This is Eckhart Tolle discussing the “Pain Body” (of unconscious thought)….
https://youtu.be/Fzj7R9IB48s
…and how to deal with it.
Eckhart Tolle also attests that the ‘Power of the Now’ can be accessed ‘organically’ i.e. without the services of an ‘interpreter’.
Psychiatrist Dr David Hawkins: “Handling Major Crises” – Describes the same process in his own way:-
https://youtu.be/YWvIZ9Dcyb8
I_e_
“…The apparent fact that most therapists have little or no idea how to accomplish this is a huge condemnation of the subject….” – Most therapists would have LITTLE OR NO IDEA of what you are just after explaining.
“…We must assume that figuring this out, and thereby really helping people, was not their major purpose in getting into the field of psychology. What, then, was?..” – Wasting Time, and getting paid for Wasting Time.
Thank You for your Wise Words Dr. Gøtzsche,
“…Most doctors, and psychiatrists are no exception, expose their patients to cold turkey withdrawal …”
It surprises me that most doctors are not aware after 60+ years of Neuroleptics, that these drugs have massive withdrawal problems; and that practically every so called “relapse” is NOT a ‘genuine relapse’ but a legitimate drug withdrawal “Rebound”. In my opinion this state of affairs should not be tolerated in a ‘Medicine’.
For me very slow neuroleptic withdrawal was best. At that rate I could recognise the weaknesses and take precautionary action.
Dr Peter Breggin (I believe) has described Neuroleptic Withdrawal Syndrome as a type of ‘Drug induced PTSD’. I believe that if people can successfully adapt to this Chemical ‘PTSD’ through effective psychological means – then this us where the Non Drug Cure for “Schizophrenia” lies.
I agree Someone Else,
Psychiatry seems to prolong the problem and make it a lot lot worse. Whereas what’s needed are decent solutions, and there are decent solutions available.
As far as Prozac goes:- The UK Health System is now pulling away from “antidepressants” due to what you describe above.
I don’t know what anyone elses experience is. But if I was to follow my automatic instincts when in distress my thinking would reinforce my anxiety and create “endless” circular anxiety
If I don’t engage my circular thinking my anxiety eventually runs out of steam – and then there is no anxiety. My mind comes into acceptance mode and I can look at the same problems, without distress and see what I can do about them.
So far this has worked for me.
I didn’t suffer a lot of Anxiety around Covid 19 – but I did (historically) suffer from “Tremendous Anxiety” when withdrawing from long term “Antipsychotic” Injections “suitable” for “Schizophrenia”- and this was when I found my relief.
We do have to deal with the burglars as well!
Thank You Madison,
USA
How many times more likely is an American Black person to be “diagnosed” with “Schizophrenia” in the USA in comparison to an American White Person?
UK
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2418996/
“….In 2006, ÆSOP reported a ninefold increase in the risk of developing schizophrenia in black Caribbeans when compared with the white British population….”
….non drug ways to overcome “Anxiety”.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1963638.The_Untethered_Soul
Thank you Dr Gøtzsche,
It’s pure Kangaroo Court behaviour in Broad Daylight.
Thanks Peter,
“….If the drugs prevent relapse, then stopping them could lead to a return of the experiences (such as anxiety or depression) that made the person seek them out in the first place..”
A lot of Depression is fuelled by Anxiety – and there are reasonable non drug ways to overcome “Anxiety”.
Thank you Peter.
I’ve seen the inflammation(/depression) idea circulating quite a bit and I was wondering what was in it.
From The British Psychological Society:-
https://www.bps.org.uk/what-psychology/understanding-psychosis-and-schizophrenia
“..The problems we think of as ‘psychosis’ – hearing voices, believing things that others find strange, or appearing out of touch with reality – can be understood in the same way as other psychological problems such as anxiety or shyness…”
In my own personal experience this is true – its not a theory. This is the way forward.
Lovely! Thank you Lauren.
Doctors in the UK are fiddling Records in Mental Health to hide situations where a person with “Diagnosis” – could be killed. The Documentary Evidence is Below:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vYO9r1FkdJSv8Bi8Q3c3u9WXNZXkmxvO/view?usp=drivesdk
It’s occurred to me that a lot of “depression”, is closely linked to “anxiety” (which most people experience, at one level or another).
My epipheny was that it was possible to do something about anxiety. Without this discovery, I would never have successfully withdrawn from “medication”.
MEDICAL DENIAL OF FULL RECOVERY – 30 YEARS AFTER FULL RECOVERY
From: ME
To: Medical Newton (NHS CENTRAL LONDON (WESTMINSTER) CCG)
Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018, 00:42:07 GMT
Subject: Att. All Partners and Dr Baluch
Dear Sirs/(Madams)
In your Letter dated October 17 2018 – you seriously misrepresent me.
TRUST
My trust in Newton Medical was broken in October of 2012 when (to my horror) I discovered my name had been on a Severe Mental Illness Register since 2002. At this time (2002) I had been working as a Building Subcontractor in the House of Parliament Buildings (and can substantiate this).
OCTOBER 8 2018 VISIT TO NEWTON MEDICAL. REGARDING HEALTH AND SAFETY ON BUILDING SITES
On October 8 2018 I explained (and showed ) to the Reception Manager and to Dr Baluch at Newton Medical, that at my last appointment on July 20 2016 Dr Simons had given me in writing a sheet of paper from the Appointment Notes stating that – “he could see no reason that I could NOT work on a Building Site” . While at the same time Dr Simons had provided me with another sheet of paper from a “Legal Adviser” (July 20 2016)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s-mEHH5pLC5EzWpxjnOLKcylQOTJ-Kvw/view?usp=drivesdk
(which made reference to the historical 1986 Irish Record Summary) but also at the the bottom of the page stated – that I had a “Diagnosis of Schizophrenia…” and “had NOT DISPUTED this diagnosis..”.
I explained on October 8 2018 that I had shown and discussed both of these contradictory statements received in July 20 2016 with a Building Health and Safety Officer who advised me to get this contradictory situation resolved – as the medical suggestions could undermine my credibility, and could affect me in the event of an accident on a Building Site.
I have not suffered any disability in my 30 years in the UK; but Medical Claims of Present day Severe Mental Illness are invalidating. I presumed Newton Medical (promoting the disability) to be the first place to approach – this is why I called to the Surgery on October 8 2018.
DISTRESS
When I clearly demonstrated the Malpractice properties of the 1986 Irish Record Summary to Dr Simons in two interviews in October/November 2012 – at the end of both of these interviews Dr Simons shirt was completely saturated and sticking to his body (he was genuinely traumatised).
But, there is no mention anywhere on my records of this Malpractice.
MY BACKGROUND
I made Full Recovery in 1984 as a Result of carefully tapering from the Modecate Depot Injection with the help of Practical Psychotherapy – and returned to normal life and independence.
Recovered 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PW-wn9GOkiyWAbdzgXuC8cDS-7UPEj0-/view?usp=drivesdk
Recovered 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19xYpA4O4h9h45b_H2PtSBTNFx3ErE-MK/view?usp=drivesdk
Adverse Drug Reaction Warning Request Letter sent to Galway Nov. 8 1986
ADR Request ltr Pg 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAZlVTbHdBRDFFSHc/view?usp=drivesdk
ADR Request ltr Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAZ0otNjFyN0NJajA/view?usp=drivesdk
ADR Request Ltr Pg 3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAcExwMzhEMVRzdm8/view?usp=drivesdk
MALPRACTICE:
The Irish Record Summary dated November 24 1986 was Sent To UK In Response:- but WITHOUT Requested ADR WARNING
Irish Record Summary Pg 1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBATlNoNTlpYy11X28/view?usp=drivesdk
Irish Record Summary Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAMmlqS18xQVZlcms/view?usp=drivesdk
Wellness Presentation at Galway in November 1980, according to Dr Fadel https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBANjBTZEtkbjBhMkU/view?usp=drivesdk
Dr Donlon Kenny False Reasurrance Letter November 1986
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zhbh8V4MBAeUFLam5rYmtXd3c/view?usp=drivesdk
AKATHISIA.
Near Fatal Modecate Experience 1. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EY4XDLt04KgmCjg_5wXU-kbVezo_DxL4/view?usp=drivesdk
Near Fatal Modecate Experience Pg 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YTWxPJTtNeTDM9eewkHoSUJr0WpBpu4b/view?usp=drivesdk
Dr Allen Frances (DSM IV) 1983 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16313058_Suicide_Associated_with_Akathisia_and_Depot_Fluphenazine_Treatment
https://rxisk.org/akathisia/
“…Significant symptoms of akathisia occur in:
around 20% of people on an antidepressant.
at least 50% of people on an antipsychotic. On higher doses, this rises to 80% or more..”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia
“..Around half of people on antipsychotics develop the condition…”
“…..Neuro-psychologist Dennis Staker had drug-induced akathisia for two days. His description of his experience was this:
“..It was the worst feeling I have ever had in my entire life. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy…” ”
Drug induced Akathisia is medically acknowledged to cause suicide.
“Depot Antipsychotic Revisited Research Paper 1998” From Galway Psychiatrist Dr PA Carney.
https://ps.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/ps.49.10.1361-b.
About 4 out of 10 of the people on these drugs will attempt Suicide.
I notice that both Dr Simon Gordon and Dr Balucha are on the GP Commissioning Governing Board.
Yours Sincerely
ME
NOTE BENE
There is NO mention of Amsterdam on the UK side of my Mental Health Records.
Prior to returning to the UK at the end of the Summer of 1980, I had stayed for several months at this Address:-
Barndesteeg 21, 1012 BV Amsterdam, Netherlands
..where I had been socially acquainted with a Northern Irish Born Again Christian, who closely matches the description below..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_McGrady
..who had been concerned about a conversation we were supposed to have had, that I couldn’t place.
John,
My experience of Neuroleptics is that they are more likely to cause Serious Mental Health Problems than to heal them.
Hi Ruby
I find your story very inspiring and I wish you a long and happy life off the meds.
Bio Psychiatry is probably the most Evil thing on this Planet.
Two cases of Familicide in the Irish News Website RTE – today
Mother pleads not guilty to murdering three children
http://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2021/0517/1222181-trial-children/
Man accused of murdering wife, children to face trial
http://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2021/0517/1222094-sameer-syed-court/
( With AKATHISIA Doctors are Deliberately Hiding the Information:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vYO9r1FkdJSv8Bi8Q3c3u9WXNZXkmxvO/view?usp=drivesdk )
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/not-guilty-by-reason-of-insanity-inside-the-central-mental-hospital-1.3544665
“…Patients who come to the Central Mental Hospital from the criminal courts have usually pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, or NGRI for short. The most typical patient is a man suffering from schizophrenia who has stopped taking his medication and has killed a family member – often a parent….”
It’s well known Medically that people that come off Strong Psychiatric Drugs abruptly can go completely MAD – even if they were completely SANE to begin with.
Thank you Dr Peter for this contribution,
“…These principles have been known for decades and were explained in an instructive paper in Lancet Psychiatry on 5 March 2019 by Horowitz and Taylor…” – This has got to be true, but it’s a good service to have it recorded in Black and White.
This is why people in crisis should be helped by people with personal experience of crisis.
It’s also possible for people to regain calm through advice, without breaking confidentiality.
Dear Dr E Baden, thank you for writing this.
“…lays hold on weapons and wounds himself, in such ways that his family is obliged to keep watch on him. ..”
“…lays hold on weapons and wounds himself…” – but not anyone else.
Thank you for your service and for relating this story, Kathleen.
It is terrible the way veterans are being treated.
They are highly dependency forming. Have you ever heard of a drug that can drive a person mad (that was never mad before) as a result of stopping?
By biting it in 4! It bites easy!
Thank You Dr Peter,
I came off Neuroleptics very carefully, but like the person you mentioned – I didn’t come back ‘the same’. I suffered from Overwhelming Anxiety and would eventually have had to return to neuroleptics, if I hadn’t found ways of dealing with my ‘drug induced PTSD’.
I discovered through ‘trial and error’ that if I ‘sat with my feelings for long enough’ that they eventually subsided, and that my mental balance returned. This was a lot more difficult to do, than it sounds!
The ‘Psychotherapeutic’ Approach is described below:-
https://youtu.be/PEf9KI4SWM8
https://youtu.be/MU1Rp184IT4
https://youtu.be/GZw8fRPK-8k
https://youtu.be/WuR2yTDtgPQ
https://youtu.be/44CIyDFjXjM
https://youtu.be/TVgQ_tgWMyU
https://youtu.be/oev6nNNSdhc
My original introduction to Psychiatry in 1980 was fairly ‘irregular’.
“….citing a medical report that the judge refused to let him see…”
A Medical Report in Mental Health can represent an impression of what a Clinic might like to promote. It’s not the same as a Medical Report in Normal Medicine that represents Factual information.
Nobody wipes a tear from their eye in peer groups when men (or women) share their most intimate tragedies – because this would be disrespectful. These groups are independent and self supporting, and know how to deal with the private reality of life.
Most ‘Professional Mental Health Support’ is now at a level of pure duplicity.
Any one telling tales in an independent Peer Group would be pointing the finger at themselves for attending the Peer group to begin with. So confidentiality is fairly secure.
Professionals generally speaking want to be in charge and want to get paid. Human Connecion and Mutuality is a completely different thing.
Thank you for this contribution Megan. About 2 hrs ago I was just thinking about how much “double speak” there is out there, and it always comes from those in Power!
Dr Gabor Maté is a very interesting person!
Hi Kathleen,
I’m very sorry to hear about your Pharmageddon.
I was prescribed 25mg per day (/night) (for “Schizophrenia”) of Seroquel in 2005 (which I cut to about 6mg per day). I stopped taking my 6mg per day same years later – and suffered from insomnia as a result, which I still have but can live with.
– You would have been prescribed over 100 times what I was taking.
The Seroquel at 6mg per night was also a Wonder Drug for me, until it began to give me ‘scary drops on my heart beat’; with the upper part of my body being ‘a soft pink and the rest of me pure white’ on awakening in the morning. This might be why Seroquel has a Black Box rating.
[The last Doctor I saw in 1984 reformulated my ‘Schizophrenia’ Opinion in 2018 to ‘Nothing’ ].
Good Morning Sam,
“Inclusion” was exactly what the Quakers offered.
.
Too true Willoweed,
In my case the University Hospital I had attended actively doctored my records – so that I could potentially be killed.
BBC News – ‘My doctor prescribed rambling for lockdown anxiety’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-56919166
It seemed to work!
The ‘Neuroscientists ‘ are killing the vulnerable – just like Dr Shipman and Nurse Beverly Allitt were…
Dr Shipman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman
Beverly Allitt
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverley_Allitt
…but they’re getting away with it.
“….I began to warn strongly against the suicide risk of the pills…”
The logic I believe behind these “pills” is that they CAN cause suicide – but that they PREVENT more suicides.
I’m not so sure – because from my own experience I did request in writing that drugs I had taken be warned against and I described Akathisia fairly well in my historical letter – but doctors lied to me about my protection. And many years later present day doctors also covered up on behalf of these doctors.
My historical doctors had been promoting the drugs via Research papers even after I had warned them about the Suicidal risk.
Ultimately my ADR Warning Request letter had the University Hospital Stamp on it, My historical Record Summary minus any ADR Warning had the University Hospital Stamp on it. The Historical Doctors False Reassurance Letter had the University Hospital Stamp on it. And a subsequent 1998 Research Paper Recommending the Suicidal Drugs as reliable also had the University credentials attached to it.
The Suicidal Drugs (Fluphenazine) were eventually removed from the market (circa 2015) after 60 years usage due to “Reliability of Supply Problems”.
.. My Historical Records 1980 – 1984, had described me as a “Dreadful Schizophrenic” – but I recovered fully in 1984 as a result of STOPPING Fluphenazine – NOT as a result of taking Fluphenazine.
I second that, and this is your best book yet.
Hi Steve,
I bought the book this afternoon, on Kindle for £10.00 – it’s very organised and interesting and compulsively readable.
Everybody suffers from PTSD (to an extent) as a result of life experience. For some people their life experience is such, that it eventually kills them.
It’s also possible to suffer from a type of (potentially disabling) drug induced PTSD.
Eckhart Tolle (also featured by Oprah Winfrey) promotes solutions for PTSD through the observation of what he describes as the “Pain Body”. His technique does work, but it takes practice.
Eckhart Tolle:- Pain Body
https://youtu.be/Tc01a_Zsj4g
Oprah Winfrey, is a fantastic humanity interviewer.
Dr Welby V Dr Shipman
If MH doctors are fiddling Records that could result in a patient being medically killed, and other doctors are covering this up (as below) –
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vYO9r1FkdJSv8Bi8Q3c3u9WXNZXkmxvO/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bTUsvmamFk3-CA0wKPDlJMakxLGUJFBq/view?usp=drivesdk
– then is it not very possible that doctors are fiddling evidence in drug induced Suicide, Homicide, Familicide cases.
Dr Shipman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman
Dr Welby
https://youtu.be/HRrJ0n4fBpE
Thank you Willoweed,
Your reply makes sense.
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It sounds like they can do whatever they want including killing and maiming their patients – I wonder why?
Is it because the industry already controls the Politicians (who won’t have jobs unless the industry supports them). And since most “MH” is paid for out of Public Funds – these Funds can pay for more and more invented “Mental Illness”.
At the moment in the UK 17% of adults are on “antidepressants” ; another percentage are on “Valiums”; some more are on unnecessary opiods; and more are on “antipsychotics” (on label and off label).
What about Straightforward Psychotherapy:-
https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2014/mar/07/treat-schizophrenia-antipsychotics-drugs-cognitive-therapy
Psychiatric drugs can drive someone mad enough to Kill themselves or someone else. Psychiatric Drugs can also suppress normal social caution, which can result in a person behaving in a way they would never normally behave in. These phenomenon are factual.
It’s useful to see this presented in Black and White.
Hi Ricky
The only thing Haloperidol can do is drive a person mad. It doesn’t surprise me that you recovered as a result of stopping ‘your medication’.
I hope I’m not wandering too far away from the subject:
“…There is no reliable evidence that the psychosis per se can damage the brain…”
I notice the heavy use of Anti Epileptic drugs is mentioned in this article. Are these drugs damaging to the brain?
“….- Create a closed system of thinking impervious to criticism, logic or evidence….”
This one resonates with me!
I think J Paul Getty said the above.
But if it’s acceptable practise for doctors to ‘Cover Akathisia Up’ in a patients records – then this would explain the mystery increase in Suicide/Familicide/Homicide at Ireland.
(…and why the Irish Medical Council avoided the subject when I brought it up with them).