Saturday, January 19, 2019

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  • @kindredspirit: According to the “Sjogren’s Syndrome Foundation” website, “as many as 4 million Americans may have Sjogren’s”…. But it looks to me that it’s a made-up, invented “diagnosis”. It’s another business, another way to make money. And there’s “no cure”. I find it funny, that this is the FIRST I’ve heard of “Sjogren’s”…. I also notice that there’s no REAL mention of what CAUSES “Sjogren’s”. To simply call it an “autoimmune disorder” doesn’t really answer the question.

  • “It is without a doubt that many people say medication made their lives better. Some welcome even their ‘diagnoses’ because it gives some explanation, it gives a reassurance.”….
    It should be noted that that “many people” is in fact a SMALL MINORITY, and those “some” who “welcome” their so-called “diagnosis”, are, again, a small minority. Why have the psychs never looked at what seems to be unique about the minority percentage of persons who actually like their diagnoses and DRUGS?….
    Hey, *some* people like heroin & opiates, so….

  • Hopefully, Roberta, you’ll take the next step in your awakening, and realize that the DSM is really nothing more than a catalog of billing codes. ALL of the supposed “mental illnesses” in it are bogus, and they were ALL invented. NONE of them were discovered. The DSM is a laundry list of excuses and justifications to $ELL DRUG$. So-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as “real” as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control. It’s 21st Century Phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good.
    In closing, I assume you meant to write, “And a little THC.”, and that’s not a typo for “TLC”. Yes, medical cannabis, and especially CBD oils, has a very real potential to HELP HEAL your Father, in a way that all the pHarma DRUGS cannot. Pharma sells drugs to make money, not to make sick people healthy….
    And the quack doctors are some of the sickest people in society. They either don’t know, which means they’re incompetent, or else they do know, and do it anyway, which means they’re malicious and malevolent. The allopathic medical profession is incompetent, crooked and corrupt.

  • I’m surprised that Dr. Ashfield made the tiny, but significant error, and NOBODY else noticed it! There’s no such thing as a “DSM-V”. It’s “DSM-5”. The APA dropped Roman numerals in favor of Arabic. Look at the picture above, DSM-5! And, the DSM is really a catalog of billing codes. ALL of the so-called “diagnoses” in it were INVENTED, and NONE of them were discovered. If so-called “mental illnesses” really were as “real” as the psychs want us to believe, than they would have been discovered, not invented. So-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as real as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. They are “STD’s”, – socially transmitted disorders. The DSM is just an excuse to $ELL DRUG$. More different diagnoses, more drugs to sell. A diagnosis and a drug for everybody! And PhRMA is laughing all the way to the bank!
    There’s another glaring perceptual and cognitive error on Dr. Ashfield’s part. Despite the plaintive cry of the politicians and the media, there is in fact NO concern on the part of “BigGOV” and industry to “cut costs”, or “save money”. Given the Central Banks that all countries have, it’s FUNNY MONEY, or fiat currency. No, they really do NOT care how much money it costs. Dr. Ashfield ignores (due to economic anosognosia, no doubt!), asking the question of WHO GETS all that tax money? Almost NONE of that money is going to the poor “mental patient” on government “benefits”, but the salaries of those employed in the system only rise, and PhRMA’s profits only ever grow. If the motive was truly to help people, wouldn’t pharmaceuticals be required to be only on a “non-profit” basis? Like ANY business in our current late-stage capitalism, it is designed to ONLY GROW. More mental patients, more drugs, more drugs, more mental patients….
    With all due respect, what I’m saying here makes Dr. Ashfield’s words here sound kinda like psychobabble and gobbledygook to me. Nothing personal intended, Dr. Ashfield, I really do think you’re at least facing in the correct direction! 😉

  • Oh, “littleturtle”! I really do think I know what you mean, when you say that you want a quick fix, but that you can’t seem to find that fix.Please let me suggest that you are NOT BROKEN. I’d say that you’re entirely normal, given everything that’s happened to you! What worked for me, was being told that within myself, there is a whole, healthy, and happy person. Then, I had to look long and hard at that, and realize the TRUTH, that I really AM a whole healthy happy person. And hey, maybe I’m wrong about this, but I really do truly believe that YOU TOO, are a whole, healthy, and happy person. And reading some simple books by the Dalai Lama helped me to understand that I could let go of my “conditional happiness”, and have UNCONDITIONAL HAPPINESS. I can decide to be happy just because, for no real reason, other than my own deciding to be happy anyway. Today, I’m a happy man. Even when I’m unhappy for a while. Because I believe in the whole, healthy, happy person inside myself. Does that make sense? I’m always happy to see your short, simple, honest comments here.

  • The mantra of the survivor community may as well be: “Recovery begins with NON-COMPLIANCE!”….
    The LIES of the pseudoscience drug racket and means of social control known as “psychiatry” destroyed what should have been the best 20+ years of my life. I will NEVER go back. The past 20+ years psych-free just keep getting better. Even though I keep getting older and grayer!
    About so-called “anti-depressants”, I was on both of the supposed “anti-depressants” Zoloft and Wellbutrin, for over a year each, while working with a licensed clinical psychologist, and a friendly General Practitioner Family doctor to write the scripts. Big waste of time and money. The ONLY real “effect”, or side-effect, that I noticed was I found myself just generally thinking about the broad topic of “suicide” more often. I was never anywhere near “suicidal”, only that I would think about it more than I did before, or have since. Working through a lot of childhood abuse issues, and my own stupid mistakes was the big key to my recovery. It’s when I learned to look at *RELATIONSHIPS*, and began to understand family dynamics, that things began to click. To the extent that I ever really was “suicidal”, the ABUSE and NEGLECT of the whole “mental illness system” is what made me despair and contemplate suicide. No “double-blind”, “placebo-controlled” “study” could ever prove that to me. But, *ALL* of the mass-casualty school shooters who then committed suicide, were on psych drugs. I dare you to find one that wasn’t, and let the exception prove the rule….

  • TO “littleturtle”: I think your experience is valid. But I also think your experience is the exception, not the rule.
    Of course I don’t REALLY know you or your situation, but I take you at your word. Your psychiatrist may be one of the exceptions to psychiatrists in general. And, maybe you have a good relationship with your psychiatrist IN SPITE OF the fact they’re a psychiatrist, and NOT BECAUSE they’re a psychiatrist. See what I mean? Just because you have a good experience with your psychiatrist, DOES NOT mean psychiatry as a whole is any good. I’m glad you’re here, and I hope you keep coming back and commenting here. You always get right to the point, and say what you want to say in simple short words. With lots of us here, when WE comment, it’s like we’re writing a chapter for a book! Personally, I think so-called “mental illness” is something that we ALL have, just that *some* of us end up taking drugs from psychiatrists! We’re the UNLUCKY ones! 😉

  • This is one of the most important stories that MiA has covered. And I’m glad to see the link that “The_cat” posted above. The video “The_cat” linked to is 10 years old now! I strongly recommend watching some other videos there, too. The greed, corruption, and lies of PhRMA are nothing new to regular MiA readers. I have to wonder how much $$ went into this “study” of “Cymbalta”, and WHO funded it? And, I wonder *IF* the study will be published now, or not? And *IF* the study *IS* published, I have to wonder whether it’s only being published *because* MiA “outed” it here?

  • First, George, I’m sorry for the loss of your daughter Martha. I just now visited her webpage, and looked at the photos in the gallery. I’ll spend more time there later, reading her writings. But one thing struck me about your stories here, based on my own life experiences. I think I need to share it. When Martha told you about her “Russian lover”, maybe it wasn’t as ONLY as “precious” as you describe it being for her. It’s possible that one reason she told you, was to “test” you. I remember once when I “came out as gay” to my parents at the dinner table. I wasn’t at all gay, but I was only saying that because it was the most outrageous, and hurtful to my parents thing I could think of to say to them. I wanted to shock them, test them, and mess with their heads. It was in partial retaliation for what my parents had said and done to me.
    I’m only playing “MAYBE….”, and “WHAT IF?”, here, but I feel I need to share my idea here with you. Is it possible that it wasn’t that you didn’t take her seriously enough, but rather that you took her TOO seriously?
    I think the grief and mourning process will continue for the rest of your life, of course.
    I’m basing my comments also on my own direct experience. My parents took me to a psychiatrist in 10th grade. I got a bogus “diagnosis”, and a prescription, and the next 20+ years of my life were wasted because of it. There’s NO DOUBT in my mind, that psychiatry and psych drugs did me FAR MORE HARM than good. I’d like to think your writing here, George, is part of a healing process, and an honor to Martha’s memory. Thank you, and may God Bless you. ~Bradford

  • The DSM is a catalog of billing codes. ALL of the so-called “diagnoses” in it are bogus, and they were all INVENTED, not discovered, to serve as excuses to $ELL DRUG$…. It’s about MONEY, POWER, and CONTROL. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control. It’s 21st Century Phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good.
    Thanks, Harper, I just wanted to write this blurb before I go check out your website. I type and write slow due to Iatrogenic Neurolepsis….
    (I understand that the DSM-6 will have a special sub-category for “Neurocognitive Iatrogenic Iatrogenesis”, which of course is the specific mental illness of believing in psychiatry…. LOL….)….

  • OK, it’s not exactly a pay-wall, but the article linked to above can ONLY be read by “starting your free trial”.
    So no, I haven’t actually read the article, but I can sure begin to comment on it….
    First, the author seems to be bemoaning the huge “cost” of “mental health treatment”. But what is never asked in these types of articles is *who* *gets* those $millions$? It sure ain’t the poor “mental patient”.
    “Mental Health, Inc”, as “yeah_i_survived”, above, calls it, is largely a type of employment agency. As good jobs in industry are outsourced and offshored, "Mental Health Inc." picks up the slack by employing folks who would otherwise be working as supervisors or admins. in jobs which now no longer exist here. And, the stress creates more "mental patients", which also means more psych drug $ale$. Truly the "government" has NO incentive to reduce so-called "mental illness", or to ease human suffering. Or to reduce to HUGE sums of money spent on it. Why should they? It's all *funny*money*, anyway….
    Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control. It's 21st Century phrenology with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good….
    WAKE UP, PEOPLE! GET OFF the DRUGS! I guess yelling at the choir isn't any more efficacious than preaching to them….

  • Let’s be fair to *SOME* folks. *SOME* folks actually do claim to receive *SOME* “benefits”, *SOMETIMES*, on *SOME* psych drugs, for *SOME* (usually short) length of time.
    Really. I’m not kidding.
    In all seriousness, I think we need to respect at face value that some people report positive experiences with psych drugs.
    It makes no sense to me.
    But I can’t deny them their reality
    Can YOU?

  • LOL! Thank-you, Tim, your excellent reply exceeds my expectations. “Quadrophrenia” is the title a “The Who” album, and a very excellent movie which I strongly recommend you see ASAP. It deals, as does the album, with teen angst and family dysfunction in 1960’s London. The album is the soundtrack to the movie. I’m sure it’s on >youtube<. "Poly", meaning "many", and "omni", meaning "all encompassing", thus "polyomniphrenia", is my made-up, imaginary word which I invented as a form of self-defense against psychiatry, and it's bogus "diagnoses". It's a play off "schizophrenia", and "Quadrophrenia". "Iatrogenic" of course means "caused by doctors or medical treatment", and "neuroleptic"/"neurolepsis", is a semi-legit construction basically meaning neurological/brain injury. So "iatrogenic neurolepsis" simply means that too many quack doctors("psychiatrists") gave me too many DRUGS that I shouldn't have been given in the first place, and that hurt me." It started in 10th grade, and ruined the next 20+ years of my life.
    While of course the details differ, most of the general themes and actions of your story mirror my own. While I do NOT blame my parents/family, unhealthy & dysfunctional RELATIONSHIPS growing up, and my own later poor choices involving alcohol & drugs are at root of what the psychs misdiagnosed as "schizophrenia". Including so-called "hebephrenic" schizophrenia, which it was explained to me has NO overt symptoms. What a crock of horse feathers that was!
    One thing that saved me was a strong sense of humor! Just ask Auntie Psychiatry! Thanks so much for your story!

  • So, in *OTHER* *WORDS*:
    “We pseudo-scientific, psychiatric wanna-be researchers are so drug addled, and welded to our delusional medical model worldview, that we simply MUST continue to throw DRUGS at people, like spaghetti on a wall, in hopes that SOMETHING SOMEhow sticks, because there’s just so much money at stake…. Even statistically meaningless mad scientist-style human experiments are fine with us. After all, as psychiatrists, we’re the direct ideological descendants of Dr. Joseph Mengele….U.S. Military persons are the ideal human guinea pigs, because the U.S. Taxpayer picks up all the incidental costs…..God BLESS America!”….
    There. now THAT is how you write a press release. Gotta keep the sheeple entertained…. >ironic< 😉

  • 12/03/2018, New Hampshire State update: N.H. is in the process of drafting a “new” 10-year plan for “mental health”. It’s a joke. It’s heavily NAMI & TAC influenced. N.H,. is proposing a “hub-and-spoke” model for “treatment access”, which “might” be coordinated with the “substance abuse” issue. Basically, they’re proposing to throw $millions$ into the same failed system, and try to create in the future something that should have been up and running over 20 years ago. One of my closest friends is a VICTIM of the local “community mental health center”. The staff deliberately lie about her, just so they can ship her to the State mental hospital. Bad help is worse than no help at all, and there’s no “good” “mental help” in N.H. It’s sad….

  • BEST: 2 formal, public announcements from the American Psychiatric Ass’n:
    1. There will be NO “DSM-6”. Perhaps a DSM-5R, or DSM-5TR, as with the DSM-IVR & DSM-IVTR….
    2. New memberships in the APA will CEASE. Through natural attrition & decease, the APA will cease to exist in a few decades at most.
    VOILA! No psychiatry, no DSM!….

  • Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control. It’s 21st Century phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good. Unless you’re a rich investor with lots of PhRMA stocks. In that case, psychiatry is a literal goldmine. I’m not arguing with your statement, Dr. Lynch, that “JAMA Psychiatry” is a “medically respected medical journal”. I understand where you’re coming from in saying such nonsense. You’re basically saying that Santa Claus is a famous Arctic Explorer. And so-called “mental illnesses” ARE EXACTLY as “real” as presents from Santa Claus. The DSM-5 is best seen as a catalog of billing codes. ALL of the bogus “diagnoses” in it were INVENTED. NONE of them were discovered. The DSM-5 exists to guarantee plenty of diagnostic allegations to serve as excuses to $ELL DRUG$…. So-called “traumatic experiences” can’t NOT cause “psychotic symptoms”….
    How far into the 21st Century must the rest of us go, before psychiatry finishes dragging itself out of the 19th, and deigns to join us?….

  • Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control. It’s 21st Century Phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good. The DSM-5 is really little more than a catalog of billing codes. So-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as “real” as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. For an otherwise competent psychologist such as Dr. Kinderman to give as much credence and respect to the pseudoscience of psychiatry as he does, only proves what I’m saying here.
    ALL so-called “mental illnesses/disorders” are in fact STD’s. They are Socially Transferred (and Transmitted)Disorders. That’s in the rare cases that they’re disorders at all. While the basic message of Dr. Kinderman here is valid, he doesn’t even begin to go as far as he should. The so-called “medical model” of psychiatry has FAILED, exactly as it was designed to do. The more psychiatry we have, the more “mental illness”.

  • Oppression, suppression, and repression are all very closely related. And they all rarely, if ever, have long-term positive outcomes. I’d say further that oppression, suppression and repression are at the root of ALL so-called “mental illness/disorder”. And even more sadly, the entire modern “mental health system” is only designed to further suppress, repress and oppress those persons whom it pretends to help. Bad help is worse than no help at all.

  • This was a really excellent comment thread, until *SOMEBODY* just had to go and ruin it by mentioning
    *T*R*U*M*P*. Maybe MiA should have a blanket “no Trump-calling” policy? Why is it, that the people most opposed to the Trumpeter, are also the ones who most frequently invoke his name for what I consider to be stupid reasons? If ever there was a de facto “off topic”, it would be our current POTUS!

  • I don’t want to take away one little bit from the excellent writing here, Monica!
    Or from all the hard work you and so many others have done.
    But I do want to add that there’s something called “walking meditation”.
    Perhaps “mindful walking meditation” describes it better.
    Especially early on, for beginners and psych trauma survivors, sometimes a sitting meditation can be too intense. The basic mental aspects of vipassana can just as easily be practiced while slowly and mindfully walking, thus allowing a better physical outlet for the nervous energy that tends to arise early in meditation.

  • As Mr. McCrea has so conclusively proven, sometimes, EVEN “when consciously deciding to work with others’ opinions to get something done”, your best efforts can prove futile when others are neither honest, nor truly self-aware.
    I hereby nominate Monica’s writing here on “mindfullness mediation” to be included in any future “best of” compilation that MiA might do.
    The power of the human brain/mind to engage in self-deception is beyond the imagination of most people. THINK about THAT…. remember, the FULL quote is:
    “IF ignorance is bliss, THEN ’tis folly to be wise”….

  • Tim, great story. I especially liked your use of the phrase “caught a schizophrenia”, in the 1st paragraph. I hope that wasn’t a typo! But I have a serious question about your comment here, above. You write that “though people change diagnoses never change”.
    Are you granting validity to such archaic concepts as so-called “schizophrenia”? And thus implying that you believe them to be “treatable but incurable brain diseases”? Or are you more speaking to the persistence of the so-called “stigma” which inevitably accompanies these bogus “diagnoses”? As for my own so-called “schizophrenia”, The Who helped me realize I could double my options by developing quadrophrenia, but I found I could most fully flower by adopting omni-polyphrenia. Today I simply live with Iatrogenic Neurolepsis. Of course I know that so-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as “real” as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. And that the DSM-5 is in fact little more than a catalog of billing codes.
    I apologize in advance for the inevitable delay in the appearance of my comment. I type slowly. As clear and concise as your story is, perhaps you could help explain to me what you mean about the persistence of “diagnoses”? THANKS!

  • I clearly remember my father spanking me, and then my crying. Then my father would say to me, “If you don’t stop crying, I’ll give you something to cry about.”
    Then I would think to myself, “Gee, Dad, I already DO have something to cry about!”
    I can laugh now. But no wonder I got a bogus diagnosis and a prescription for psych drugs when my parents took me to a psychiatrist in High School!
    Psychiatry and it’s poison pills have done, and continue to do, far more harm than good.
    So-called “schizophrenia” is in fact an STD. It’s really a “socially-transmitted disease”.

  • OMG, more psychobabble and gobbledygook!
    Once again proving the TRUTH Mark Twain is credited with:
    “There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
    We may as well call the DSM-5 the “DLM-5”, or “Diagnostic LIES Manual”
    That would make more sense, except there are NO statistics in the DSM-5.
    Which of course makes no sense, but that psychiatry for ya’!
    “Psychiatry, the nonsense science”
    Really, I think “nonsense science” has a friendlier ring to it than “pseudoscience”…..

  • ….*sigh*…. Yet more psychobabble and gobbledygook. It’s equally valid to say that the ONLY cause of crime is the laws against crimes themselves. For example, if there were no laws against it, murder would not be a crime. Murder would simply be murder. It is only by passing criminal laws against murder, that murder becomes a crime. If we repealed all criminal laws against murder, then murder would cease to be a crime, and the crime of murder would no longer occur, or even exist.
    I’m so brilliant. Where can I get a high paying job as a “neurocriminologist”?….
    By the same logic, we could eliminate 100% of so-called “mental illness”, simply by eliminating both the DSM-5 and psychiatry. But sadly, psychiatry creates so-called “mental illness” in a way that “neurocriminologists simply do NOT create crime…. But then, unlike psychiatry, neurocriminologists do not force their victims to consume brain damaging drugs, so there’s that, too….

  • It’s worse than that, Frank. I clearly remember reading several articles about this sad incident when it happened. Both women were truly “voluntary” patients, and NOT in “crisis”, simply needing some hospital-setting “time out”. They found themselves suddenly MADE into “involuntary patients”, and just as suddenly transported. There was NO urgent need to transport them at the time. And, the *type* of secure Sheriff’s prisoner transport van used virtually guaranteed their deaths. These deaths didn’t have to happen, and shouldn’t have. At least one of the women’s deaths left 3 young children motherless…. The ONLY consolation will be a hopefully 6- or 7-figure lawsuit payout in a year or 2….

  • I’m 100% on your side, and in support of you ALL. This comment is directly to “BetterLife”, above. I know what you mean about “side effects”. But it occurred to me, that there’s NO SUCH THING as so-called “side effects”. Either the drug(s) have effects, or else they don’t. Obviously, a placebo has placebo-like effects. A nocebo has negative, or harmful effects. I suppose we can speak of “intended effects”, and “non-intended effects”. But I say “side effects” are really DIRECT effects that PhRMA and the psychs don’t want to ever mention. The doctors KNEW, or at least certainly SHOULD HAVE known what drug EFFECTS could and would do to your parents. I’m sorry about that.
    Thank-you, and I hope things go well for you and your family. And I hope I have expanded your thinking on bogus, so-called “side effects”. The psych drugs darn near killed me, too. Ugh! 😉

  • In overly simple terms, “you tell yourself that you’re thirsty”. I don’t see how some “spiritual force” is required to explain literal, physical thirst. And, considering what we’ve learned about our gut micro-biome in the last decade or 2, maybe our thirsty gut microbes tell us we’re thirsty? While I personally believe in some sort of GOD, or God, I’m curious why you write “G-d”?…. Just askin’….

  • Ekaterina, it’s difficult to put in such a few words here, but YES, Buddhism DOES teach that you “were Buddha in a previous reincarnation”. Something like that, anyway. And there is NO drug, or “medication” which can make that specific thought go away, or lessen. That’s not how either thoughts or drugs work. Buddhism, and Buddhist thought and ideas, and especially the words of the Dalai Lama, have been VERY helpful to me.
    But too many of us have learned the hard way, that we must be very careful about what we say, how we say it, and who we say it to, when we are dealing with psychiatry. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drugs racket, and a mechanism of social control. It’s 21st Century Phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. I know you know all this.
    I’m glad to have read some of your story, and glad you wrote it. I’m sorry for what they did to you. I have seen other writings from you here on MiA, haven’t I? We ALL have what might be called “crazy ideas”, and yours don’t seem very “crazy”, to me. Me? I believe that I am 1 7/1,000,000,000th of humanity on Earth! And remember, without “ART”, “EARTH” is just “EH”! SEE!? You smiled at that! You feel better, don’t you?

  • “Empire-building” for the pseudoscience drug racket of psychiatry, and “market expansion” for PhRMA.
    Yes, that’s exactly how the scam works.
    Psychiatry invents more “diagnoses”, and PhRMA $ELL$ DRUG$….
    It’s all about money, power, and control.
    Neither psychiatry nor PrRMA cares one bit about people.
    (BTW, the DSM-5 is really just a catalog of billing codes….)….

  • I ALMOST posted a nice comment about Mr. Allen Frances, after I watched the video of him speaking to Amanpour on CNN. (I’ve heard “CNN” means “Clinton News Network”, or “Communist News Network”, but I’m not sure which is more correct.) Then i read ALL the comments before I posted my own. When I got to Auntie Psychiatry’s comment, I knew Frances’s goose was cooked. Here, Auntie Psychiatry responds to Rosalee, (above), and it’s SO IMPORTANT, that I’m gonna cut-n-paste it here:
    Auntie Psychiatry wrote:
    “Rosalee, Don’t be fooled – Allen Frances is a devious wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is the public face of guild Psychiatry, and has a powerful platform in the mainstream media which he is using to save his “profession” from sinking into the mire. This interview is a classic example. He captures the public mood of outrage at being misled about “antidepressants” whilst neatly deflecting all responsibility for the current situation away from Psychiatry. His tricks are easy to spot once you know them…

    1. Allege scarcity of data: “There’s almost no research on the withdrawal syndrome.”

    2. Bring in a bigger villain: “The pharmaceutical industry is only marginally less ruthless than the drug cartels, and it’s not in their interest to advertise this, so there’s been very, very little research.”

    3. Pass the blame on: “80% of the antidepressants are prescribed by primary care doctors.”

    4. Re-assert Psychiatry’s ultimate authority in these matters: “There’s a cruel paradox that we’re over-treating the worried well and we’re terribly neglecting the really ill…”

    5. Big-up the drugs as ‘life-saving medication’: “the medications are absolutely essential for people with severe depression.”

    In the UK, our top psychiatrists are already following his lead and spinning these very same lines to the press…

    “Professor Wendy Burn, president of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, said antidepressants are ‘a life-saver’ for many people but ‘not enough research has been done into what happens when you stop taking them’.” (Independent 2 Oct 2018)

    Journalists will buy it, and the message will filter down through blogs and social media to the public at large. Psychiatry, as always, will come up smelling of roses.”

    I myself am living proof that psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control.
    I myself can NOT identify as “anti-Auntie Psychiatry”! “Anti-psychiatry”, yes.
    But Mr. Allen Frances and his ilk damn near killed me, and stole what should have been the best 20 years of my life, and caused IATROGENIC damage to the rest of it….

  • BICYCLE! BICYCLE! BICYCLE!…SWIM! SWIM! SWIM!….WALK! WALK! WALK!….
    Bicycle or walk 7 days a week. Swim 3-5 times a week. No depression.
    Any person with health insurance and a “depression diagnosis” should have a bicycle paid for, and a good pair of walking (or running) shoes, also…. But that just makes WAY too much sense!….
    When I read the piece above, I can’t help see a bunch of grossly over-educated idiots, who are too enamored of the trees of their “higher education”, to EVER see the FOREST of LIFE, where healthy people exercise DAILY!
    But the native vegetable of modern America seems to be the couch potato. No wonder so-called “depression” is epidemic! The human body was genetically designed to *exercise* *daily*!

  • Sorry, “Slaying Dragon”, but I must disagree with your statement that “Autism is a myth, just like every other so-called “mental illness””. Given that I regularly describe psychiatry as the pseudoscience which it is, and that the DSM is a catalog of billing codes, I’m sure you’ll see what I am NOT disagreeing with! Much of my limited knowledge of “autism” comes from the website “Age of Autism”, which is kind of a lower-budget Mad in America”. Their content is produced mostly by parents of severely autistic children, and they include lots of links to other sources of information. There’s a “something there” as regards autism, in a way that there just isn’t with so-called “mental illness” in general. And, the numbers of parents of children with so-called “regressive autism”, who were completely “normal” until right after they got vaxxed, is much, much higher than the lame-strem mass media will ever acknowledge. It seems that in SOME vulnerable persons, vaccines trigger a type of auto-immune respons which leads to an encephalopathy which gets diagnosed as “autism”. And the degree of impairment in autistic children is extreme enough that I’d say, yes, AUTISM IS REAL.
    What I find most telling, is that the “Medical-Industrial-PhRMA-Research-Complex” is not at all interested in even discussing possible “environmental” causes of autism, or discussing possible causes at all, except a so-far fruitless search for “autism genes”.
    That so-called “Asperger’s” no longer exists, having been folded into ASD in the DSM-5, supports what I’m saying here. There *IS* a “something” in far too many children, and the label in use is “autism”.
    Personally, I think so-called “Aspergers” is bogus, but not autism. So I look forward to reading more at the link you provided. I’m sorry it’s taken so long for my comment to appear…. I think this is the first time I’ve ever disagreed with ANYTHING you usually write!
    (Dragons are powerful mythical creatures, and comparing them to quack psychiatrists is insulting to dragons, but that’s just my personal opinion. SLAY AWAY, & how can I help you do that?!…. 😉

  • @”the_cat”:
    Yes, what we have now is a process-centered process, and a system-centered system.
    What we NEED is a person-centered process, and a services-centered system.
    Only then can we ask, “What can we do for you?”….
    But I still say that the trauma-informed “What happened to you?”, is a good first step.
    Psychiatry and psych drugs can NEVER get beyond “what’s wrong with you?”, because they will NEVER ask or answer any other questions….
    And as for psychiatry’s “answer” of potent, neuro-toxic psych drugs? Well, *WE* know….

  • “the black sheep”,
    “scapegoat”,
    “designated patient”
    etc., etc.,
    Just 3 of the many words used to describe the family roles of almost all so-called “mental patients”.
    These are all types of so-called “stigma”. The “government” will never go away, and neither will “stigma”.
    Government and stigma are both tools used by the rich ruling elites to attain and maintain their
    MONEY, POWER and CONTROL. There is NO “mental health crisis”.
    So-called “mental patients” are more correctly seen as victims of social and governmental oppression.
    People don’t “sleep rough” because of lack of money, – they do it because of a lack of housing.
    So-called “mental illness” is not caused by “mental illnesses”, – it’s caused by a lack of knowledge, understanding, and compassion.
    The “Guardian” would rather spend the next few decades publishing stories like this, than to tell the TRUTH:
    Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drugs racket, and a means of social control. It’s 21st Century Phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good.
    Remember, so-called “stigma” was NOT DISCOVERED. It was *INVENTED*…..
    Think about that truth….

  • It’s too bad that “Mad in America” isn’t trauma informed. Sure, they post *British* articles like this one. But America is NOT England, nor is it the United Kingdom. NOBODY in America has EVER been “sectioned”. But “sectioning” happens every day in the British Isles. “Sectioning” is most severe in England. English “sectioning” always results in either re-traumatizing trauma victims, or initiating first trauma in the trauma naive. Here in America, where “Mad in America” sometimes traumatizes those who comment, we say “court ordered”, or “involuntary”, or “forced”, and use euphemisms such as “ACT”. “ACT” is a buzzword dog-whistle whose letters stand for “Assertive Community Treatment”….
    But the larger take-away from this article is that so-called “mental health treatment” in general, and psychiatry and psych drugs in general, too often do more harm than good to already traumatized, so-called “mental patients”
    I know that *I* sure feel re-traumatized just from reading this article.
    But that’s also partly because my incest-trauma inflicted friend has been thrown in the State loony bin again by the local “Community Mental Health Center”, and forced to take brain damaging drugs because that’s what “they” think she needs. “They” are NOT trauma-informed!
    Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good.
    The above article simply proves that point.

  • 20 years ago, 2 employees of the local “Community Mental health Center” called the local police, and lied, saying I was suicidal, when I was not. The cops broke in, dragged me to the local hospital, and forced me to meet with some quack from the agency. They tried to force me to say I was suicidal, but I wasn’t, so I didn’t.
    So they arrested me, and held me on $500. cash bail. The charge was so bogus, it was dropped, but the damage was done. So this article is nothing new. Psychiatry, psych drugs, and NAMI, the UN-holy trinity, have done, and continue to do, far more harm than good.
    Notice how you NEVER see anybody from the local “Community Mental Health Center” commenting on these cases in these types of articles…. WHY is that?….

  • It was decades ago, now, that a psychiatrist from India and myself butted heads in a State Mental Hospital. She was a very traditional Indian woman, who wore a sari everyday. That’s fine with me. Her English was pretty good, but I wouldn’t say she was as “fluent” as I’d think a psychiatrist should be in whatever Native language they’re using. It makes no sense to me, to allow a doctor to practice, who isn’t fluent in a given language. But psychiatry is a drug racket, and means of social control, so, whatever, huh?
    Anyway, this Indian psychiatrist and myself were chatting about general stuff, outside of any formal “talk therapy”. She made some comment about something, and I joked, “Oh, you’re just paranoid”. Any native English/American speaker would have understood that I was only kidding around and making a joke. But that’s not how she heard it.
    Later, I got in BIG TROUBLE for “accusing” this quack psychiatrist of being “paranoid”. She heard that word “paranoid” ONLY in it’s strict, clinical sense. She made such a huge stink over it, and it was literally nothing to me. While she tried to “get me in trouble”, she failed because the other Americans on staff realized the true nature of the problem.
    While “diversity” and “multiculturalism” are some of the key magic words for bleeding-heart liberals, they are too often used as tools of genocide. Nothing *GOOD* can come to India, for allowing the pseudoscience lies of the drug racket known as “psychiatry” to invade India, and wreak havoc on Indian society, as it has in the U.S. and Western world..

  • This appeared in 2012, long before I found MadinAmerica. Looks like “GenerationRX” is a good film, – too bad it doesn’t seem to have had as much effect as some of us wish it would. Maybe NOW even more folks will see it….

  • Frank: (and everybody else!),
    Currently, the chips Otsuka is putting in Abilify are very low power, and only have a very short range. They couldn’t possibly communicate with GPS satellites. They are designed ONLY to communicate with a wearable device which is on the victim’s body, or perhaps in a pocket. But that’s only true for current technology. Please note that I am NOT defending this Frankenstein “medicine”! But I don’t want our paranoia to exceed reality, either. Otsuka and Abilify as they ARE NOW, are worthy of paranoia!

  • Dr. Steingard includes a link to a video on “Medscape”, by a Dr. Strakowski, who wants to do a better job at “Branding” psychiatry today. The longer comment above, from myself, is what I posted on “Medscape” in their comments section. But it *looks like* “Dr. sandra steingard” left herself logged in to that site. So I *think* that my comment there looks like it was posted by Dr. Steingard and not myself. I couldn’t see how to log in to “Medscape”. I’m sorry for any confusion, and I’m sure that regular readers of the MiA comment section will recognize my usual comment style and content.

  • I’m a surviving victim of the pseudoscience drug racket and means of social control known as psychiatry. Psychiatry is 21st Century Phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good. The DSM-5 is in fact a catalog of billing codes. All of the supposed “diagnoses” in it are bogus, and they were all invented, not discovered. Think about the key difference there. So-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as “real” as presents from Santa Claus, but they are not more real.

    Consider the “mind”, which psychs believe can be/have an “illness”. Did YOU create your mind all by yourself? Or is it the fact that your mind is a social construction. How did you teach yourself English, before you learned English? Or were you taught English by others? Therefore, so-called “mental illness” must be something that either ALL of us have, or else NONE of us have. Each person is a unique human being, but psychiatry believes there are arbitrary and clearly defined categories of “mind” which can be defined and identified. That’s a form of group delusion.

    As for this so-called “stigma”, which must be “defeated”, how can you propose to “defeat” something which you continue to perpetuate, having created it in the first place? I say you can’t. There ARE some identifiable, biological, physical brain conditions which can mimic many so-called “mental illnesses”, and those are the province of neurology, not psychiatry, as clearly stated in the video. So-called “stigma” is in fact an artifact of psychiatry. Psychiatry created stigma, and psychiatry perpetuates it.

    And I haven’t even gotten to the unholy marriage of psychiatry and PhRMA. Psych drugs are far less safe, much less effective, and much less necessary than your PhRMA paymasters would have you believe. The so-called “medical model” is both an aberration, and an abomination. It’s the tool of oppression which psychiatry wields to inflict the carnage it does. Among my friends are far too many who suffered under psychiatric care. Many, if not most, were also victims of physical, mental, emotional, verbal, psychological, and sexual abuse as children. I know 3 women, – ironically all Catholic, – who were raped by their fathers when they were girls, and who were then taken to psychiatrists for labelling and drugging in their teenage years, all so they would not be believed when the spoke out about the truth. So, yes, psychiatry is complicit in covering up rape. The unmitigated and unacknowledged arrogance and intellectual conceit of psychs such as in the video continues to appall me. The worst mistake I ever made was going to a psychiatrist, and taking psych drugs. The best decision I ever made was to stop both. And so I will live out my years, in increasing good health and happiness psychiatry-free. And I shall speak out every chance I get at the pseudoscience lies of the drug racket and means of social control known as psychiatry. There’s a damn good reason for that “shortage” of psychs, – people are waking up to the delusions, to the lies. You really need to spend a few hours at .madinamerica.com., reading some truth, and hearing other surviving victims tell their true stories. My only conflict of interest is the truth of my own reality, which psychiatry cannot explain. Gee, Doc, what happened to my “mental illness”?

  • @noel:
    I think you should always also note that the DSM-5 is a CATALOG of BILLING CODES….
    And Mental-Illness-Industrial-Complex should be capitalized.
    I sometimes self-identify as an “escaped former mental patient”! LOL
    The BEST thing I EVER did, was turn my back on psychiatry & psych drugs over 20 years ago.
    The WORST thing I ever did was go to a shrink & take psych drugs in the first place!
    Psychiatrists are actually seriously discussing “diagnosing”, and “medicating” so-called “mental illnesses” IN THE WOMB. No, there is no depth of depravity which psychiatry will NOT drop down to….
    If there was true financial and economic justice in the world, Bruce Levine would receive full cover price for the copy of his new book, that I would receive free. No, I’m not some self-entitled idiot who thinks I should just get stuff free. I live in the abject poverty of Social Security Disability as the result of Iatrogenic Neurolepsis. Too many quack psychiatrists gave me too many drugs, which I should never have been given in the first place. I’ll talk to the head Librarian here in town, and see if I can get her to order a copy of
    RESISTING ILLEGITIMATE AUTHORITY. The City can pay for it….
    KEEP UP the GOOD WORK, PEOPLE!

  • I was on a benzo, clonazepam(“Klonopin”), for over 20 years. The Family Physician who originally wrote the prescription was fairly clear with me on the pros & cons of it. It was a low dose, written as a PRN. I could take it if I thought I needed it, but I should also take it as little as possible, and look to eventually coming off of it. And, it was only an “addition” to the intensive recovery and self-healing program I was doing for myself. I also worked most of that time with a group of very excellent clinical psychologists. The longer I was on it, the less I took. Eventually, a 30-day supply lasted many months, and most days I took none. The Dr. & I had an understanding that I was beginning to taper off it, the day I went on it! But I never saw it as “psychotropic”. The whole point was to make my PHYSICAL symptoms more manageable. It had little if any direct effect on my mental, emotional, or psychological state. Once or twice early on, I deliberately took a much larger dose, just to know what the effects would be. I don’t want to live my life zonked out, so abuse of the drug was not an option for me. I can certainly see how so many people have gotten in trouble with benzos, but I’d MORE like to see PhRMA and the Medical community take more of their share of the responsibility. My biggest need for the clonazepam was to limit the effects of Iatrogenic Neurolepsis. When I was much younger, too many quack psychiatrists gave me too many brain-damaging drugs, that I should never have been given in the first place. As good as the article above is, it’s still too much about BLAME the VICTIM. One set of quacks gives too many pills, and another group studies the effects! *I* SHOULD get PAID for taking the crap! Why not? Everybody ELSE involved in benzo manufacture and distribution is getting paid! My God, mental illness runs rampant in the medical profession!

  • The biggest take-away I get from this article, is that this guy Fanon, who I’ve never heard of, thinks that so-called “mental illness” has both cultural/social/society, and environmental factors. Something like that. It’s kind of confusing, really, to make a better judgement with so little information. I really don’t want to waste my time doing a scholarly examination of some long-dead psychiatrist. The BOTTOM LINE for me, is that so-called “mental illness” is something that either ALL of us have, or else NONE of us have. You can choose to believe that nobody has so-called “mental illness” because it doesn’t exist. But I do believe that *SOMETHING* exists, which gets mislabeled as so-called “mental illness”. So-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as “real” as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. So “mental illness” is something that we ALL HAVE. And we seem to be quite skilled at giving it to others, too. And the greatest single cause of preventable “mental illness” is the pseudoscience of psychiatry. Without psychiatry, “mental illness” wouldn’t exist at all. So at best, this guy Fanon merely perpetuates the modern superstition of “mental illness”.

  • I’m in New Hampshire, one of the 5 States in this study. In 2012, I watched the State CPS, (called “DCYF” here) literally destroy a mildly disabled girl’s family. She was taken away from her very loving but also mildly disabled Mother in a blatantly fraudulent “Neglect Hearing”, and put in foster care. A week later, her Mother was evicted into homelessness. The girl was later put in the Nashua (state-run) Childrens’ Home, and drugged with Seroquel as behavior control. Even considering the girl’s mild physical disability, and her difficult, impoverished childhood, she was a bright, happy, wonderful kid. Until the State took over. And the PSYCH DRUGS. I’ve lost touch with the family now. But yes, powerful PSYCH DRUGS are routinely used as CHEMICAL RESTRAINTS in CHILDREN. This is the EVIL of both psychiatry, and the so-called “medical model”. This article gives just a glimpse of the carnage.

  • Pretty fancy writing, Megan, THANKS! But you know I have to say something. I think you give way too much credibility to the “scientific community” for that deficient definition of *3* responses: “fight, flight, and freeze”. That’s biologically incorrect. (I won’t get into the genetic details here….) We humans have *4* fluid systems in our bodies. Blood, lymph, bile, and digestive. We have *4* nervous systems. (I forget what they’re called….,whatever….) So too do we have *4* responses: FIGHT, FLIGHT, FREEZE, and RUN-and-HIDE. Both “fight” and “freeze” can look similar, because in both we’re still “there”, or “here”, or where ever. And “flight” and “run-and-hide” can look the same, because they both involve “running away”. But “flight” is running away as fast and far as possible, for the sake of getting as far away as fast as possible. “Run-and-hide” is only about running as far as fast as possible to get to a safe place to duck into and hide. “Freeze” is an attempt to hide in plain sight. “Fight” is, well, FIGHT.
    Thinking we have only 3 responses needlessly handicaps us.
    As for the current “administration” in the D.C. White House, remember, you’re young. Most of your distress has been deliberately inflicted by the controlled media. It’s BOTH really not as bad as you think, and worse than you can possibly imagine. That’s the paradox of reality. The paradox of DUALITY. We see this duality in the self/other dichotomy. In the female/male dichotomy. In the sane/insane dichotomy. In the healthy/unhealthy dichotomy. It’s all just US. Or all just THEM. Or EVERYBODY. Or NOBODY. Darn. There’s that “4” thing again!
    Ultimately, the kind of mental masturbation we’re engaging in here is only somewhat satisfying, but not very productive. Thank-you for writing what you’ve written here, which inspired me to write what I’ve written here. You could have done it without me, but I couldn’t have done it without you.

  • “….DACA “did not offer pathways to legalization, address exclusions from deferral and financial aid, provide relief to beneficiaries’ family members, and was revocable.”….”….<- from the article, above, next-to last paragraph….
    This quote points to all that is wrong with DACA, and U.S. immigration policy in general. Obama enacted DACA illegally, in clear violation of his Constitutionally enumerated powers. It SHOULD have been passed as a Federal Law, by Congress. But the FACT is that NEITHER the Repubs or Dems wants to pass a DACA-style law. BOTH parties want to USE DACA recipients as political pawns and bargaining chips. And the so-called "left"/"progressives"/"liberals" are also dupes and pawns in this political process. That Trump himself can void DACA is proof of what I'm saying here. Remember, Trump was a "Democrat" longer than he's been a "Republican".
    None of what I'm saying here negates anything said in the article, above. But the REALITY is, that "illegal immigrant" IS a valid characterization, even for DACA people. DACA is NOT a Federal Law. So, yes, even DACA recipients are in clear violation of Federal Law. That makes them illegal immigrants. Their immigration is illegal. There's no such thing as "illegal people".
    The Democrats could have easily introduced a bill in Congress that would have made DACA a legitimate Federal Law. That they have so far failed to do so, shows just how corrupt America's political process truly is. If Mexican & Central & South American countries and cultures were so HEALTHY and FUNCTIONAL, then we here in America would have far fewer illegal immigrants from those countries. The oft-repeated refrain that such people are "escaping poverty, violence and war" only reinforces what I'm saying here. Yes, some help must be provided by the FedGov. But at the same time, a sense of responsibility and accountability needs to be made clear to the entire illegal immigrant community. To continue to see them as only, or even mainly "passive victims", as this QUALITATIVE study does, is to continue to dehumanize and exploit them. To patronize and belittle them. Democrats want children to take care of at FedGov expense. Republicans want them to grow up, be adults, and take care of themselves. That's how I see it.

  • Princess Aurora: So-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as “real” as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. They are ONLY “real” because YOU BELIEVE them to be real. They are “real’ in YOUR mind, but they are NOT real in MY mind. So-called “mental illnesses” ONLY exist in YOUR mind, but they do NOT exist in MY mind.
    Yes, there ARE “crazy people”, but that’s another subject….

  • Dogs are PACK ANIMALS. They are SOCIAL animals. When ANY dog “destroys the furniture”, etc., it’s ONLY because they have been LEFT home ALONE! Have you ever heard of a dog who “destroys the furniture” when their pack/family/people are present? No, of course not. So “destroying the furniture” is a stress response to abandonment. It’s a SOCIAL reaction to an abandoning pack/family. The problem is the pack/family. It’s NOT the dog that’s the problem. The dog is the victim. The pack/family is the problem. Same as with people. That’s the reason the so-called “medical model” of so-called “mental illness” has such a low recovery rate….
    (Also, you’re neglecting consideration of the “No-cebo” effect….)….

  • The single biggest obstacle to “progress” in “behavioral healthcare” is the delusional belief that such a FRANKENSTEIN as “behavioral healthcare” actually exists outside of fiction….
    In the 1800’s, we had Frankenstein, Dracula, Vampires and werewolves.
    In 2018, we have the X-Men, Transformers, Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman.
    Makes sense.
    After all, we’re still practicing 19th Century medicine with the pseudoscience drug racket of psychiatry….

  • Oh, my, isn’t that a very pretty and interesting re-arrangement of deck chairs on the Titanic!
    All you do-gooders and reformers are just going around in circles.
    You can “Mental Health America”, and “Change Direction”, and NAMI all you want….
    You’re either rotating clockwise, or else engaged in counter-clockwise rotation.
    Either way, you’re going in circles, at best.
    As long as you believe in so-called “mental illness” or “mental health condition”, or “dual diagnosis”, or
    whatever nonsense du jour, you’re going nowhere.
    It’s a process-centered process, and a system-centered system, and money RULE$!
    The “gold standard” is “HE who has the gold makes the rules”….
    It’s the Capitalist Patriarchy on psych drugs and steroids….
    Until you make it a PERSON-Centered Process, and a SERVICE-Centered System, you’ll get nowhere.
    I know you’re all good people, and mean well, but I will NOT help you re-arrange Titanic deck chairs….
    Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drugs racket, and a means of social control. It’s 21st Century phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry, and it’s Frankenstein “medical model”, has done, and continues to do, far more harm than good. So-called “mental illnesses” are exactly as “real” as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. The DSM-5 is nothing more than a catalog of billing codes. ALL of the bogus “diagnoses” in it were invented, not discovered. There IS a difference. Real people have real problems, but imaginary “diseases” should NOT be part of that. So-called “dual diagnosis” is just the latest SCAM, to $TEAL MONEY, and further enslave folks. And $ELL DRUG$ for PhRMA….
    Why do you REALLY THINK so-called “peer support” always gets the $hort end of the $tick????….

  • It must be pointed out that Baldwin quit because he was “harassed online”, and got some professional push-back and rebuttal to his provably false views. Baldwin’s claims of the safety, efficacy, and ease of withdrawal from so-called “anti-depressants” are NOT supported by either a careful scrutiny of the research, or the TRUTH of many 1,000’s of psych drug victims. But NOWHERE does Baldwin even attempt to defend the PhRMA-backed opinions in his ridiculous letter….

  • What you described just above, *shaun f*, in your longer post, (that I couldn’t reply directly under), is a PROCESS CENTERED process, and a SYSTEM CENTERED system. That’s the whole problem, and the key to the solution. It SHOULD BE a PERSON Centered Process, and a SERVICE Centered System. Think about that, please.

  • Thank-you for that very singular, anecdotal, and extreme report.
    Wouldn’t you estimate that “can be life saving in some instances” works out to AT MOST 5% of persons currently victimized by Electro-Cution Torture? 1%? Also, “history of bipolar disorder” is equivalent to “got lots of presents from Santa Claus last Christmas”. Exactly *WHAT* “medications” had she stopped taking? How long had she been on them? What *in utero* alcohol/drug exposure did she have? Fetal & childhood nutrition? What’s her ACE profile look like?
    If you’re going to come on MiA and defend Electro-Cution Torture, you need much better evidence. And just WHAT does a “positive” “response” to Ativan look like?
    The death penalty does have side effects, but when used properly, it is 100% effective in preventing convicted murderers from re-offending.
    ECT is nothing more than a non-lethal living death penalty.
    ECT = Electro-Cution Torture
    What kind of SICK SOCIETY produces people who need ECT in the first place?
    RSVP?

  • About 15 years ago, when she was 22, my friend’s Mother forced her to undergo ECT. My friend has not been the same since. She has poor memory and learning skills, and is only able to barely maintain some limited independence in subsidized housing, a small disability pension, and Food Stamps. She’s a wonderful person, and a good friend, but she is also STILL a VICTIM of psychiatry and the local “Community Mental health Center”. She is forced to take neuro-toxic drugs which she doesn’t want, doesn’t need, and which are harming her. If ECT did her ANY good, I certainly can’t see it. All I can see is an increasingly VICTIMIZED VICTIM. ECT is nothing more than the tip of the iceberg of psychiatry’s GENOCIDE. ECT belongs on the scrap heap of history.
    ECT = Electro-Cution Torture