Saturday, February 27, 2021

Comments by LuthervonWolfen

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  • “Double depression” refers to chronic depression and reoccurring major depression.
    I wasn’t defending anything. I have no interest in justifying anything.
    My friend had every right to diagnose me – I gave him that right when I asked for his opinion. And I had every right to ignore his opinion. I chose to take his advice because I knew him well enough to trust him. He had had experiences similar to mine and he told me what had been beneficial to him.
    I had no idea that my belief that people benefit from sharing their problems with friends who have had similar problems, openly discussing and analyzing the various methods of treatment available – including the possibility of medication – would generate such negative responses. I thought I was advocating for basic friendship and cooperation, information sharing and empathy.
    I believe that I misjudged the premise of this site. I thought it was a place for neurodivergent people to vent their spleen at anyone who appeared to hold another opinion.
    I will unsubscribe.

  • I am a recovering alcoholic with double depression and psychotic features. I use analogies when talking with other people who have similar issues. An example would be likening alcoholism to an allergy -a common comparison in alcoholism recovery circles. It is not exact – alcoholism is NOT an allergy – but it is a useful way of thinking about alcoholism. Depression is NOT like diabetes in many/most ways, but the comparison might be helpful if the depressed person is struggling to accept the need for medication. (In my own case, medication is appropriate and I benefit from it – not unlike how a diabetic would benefit from insulin. It was difficult for me to accept this in the past – I rebelled against medical treatment and suffered the consequences.)
    I think comparisons to physical diseases can be useful when it is clear that an imperfect illustration is being used. I use them in conversations, where there is opportunity for clarification, and I am willing to drop an analogy if it seems unhelpful.
    I especially try to treat other people who have depression, alcoholism, or other mental conditions with the same courtesy and compassion that I would want – and which I mostly received earlier in my journey. We know ourselves and each other better than people who don’t share our experiences, but who have PhD’s. We can help each other to survive and thrive. If an analogy to diabetes or allergy will help a friend to understand or frame what they’re experiencing, I’ll use it.

    Another recovering alcoholic recently shared with me that she was having problems with her recovery because her method of recovery placed a lot of emphasis on her “powerlessness”. This was triggering some problems related to the lack of power and agency which she had experienced as a child. We spent a couple hours talking in my backyard, burning stuff in the fireplace, unpacking the concept of powerlessness and how it related to alcoholism versus childhood abuse and/or being a woman in a man’s world.
    I believe this kind of dialogue is what is most beneficial for people who have mental health issues, substance abuse disorders, and general life problems. Being able to hash things out with a knowledgeable friend has always had the best results for me. It was a knowledgeable friend who said “You need medication” – he was right.

  • I recently increased the amount of antidepressant I take daily – after checking in with my prescribing physician. I’ve been on meds for almost 22 years – I started taking them a few months after I got clean and sober. For me, antidepressants work; recreational drugs don’t. This is a fact of my experience and I ain’t lettin’ nobody undermine that – whether it’s other people in recovery who say I’m “not really clean” because I take SSRI’s, marijuana advocates who say pot will solve my problems, or people who have gotten well without meds – using ginseng or kava kava or whatever – and now oppose them. If it helps you have the life you think is best for you, go for it.
    Whether I know what’s best for me or not is debatable, but I’ma do what seems to me to be best for me.

  • I recently left a job that was a repeat of an abusive relationship. I mean, I didn’t realize it until after I left, but the job and my co-workers took the place of an abusive partner. After I got out, I even experienced the old desperate desire to return to the abusive situation.
    I’m getting better, becoming more conscious of how I function (and sometimes don’t).
    Glad I found this resource.