Friday, September 18, 2020

Comments by suskar

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  • Thanks for your response, Tina. I guess I’m always just trying to put things into a simple, little box that is Right or Wrong and life is never that simple. I like to keep an open-mind and try to learn what I can, from other people’s perspective. My husband has always said that my father’s actions weren’t as much about mental illness as they were about him getting really, super angry and, yes, my father had a very quick, violent,temper sometimes; but other times you could do the exact same thing that had made him angry before and he would laugh about it. I’m positive my childhood experiences have a lot to do with my difficulties in navigating through life. I don’t know what kind of person I would be if I’d been raised differently. Would I be more functional? Who knows. :)Thanks again for your response.

  • Tina,

    I’m somewhat confused by this article. Maybe I’m reading it too simplistically, but aren’t there circumstances where an un-diagnosed mental illness is wreaking havoc in a person’s life, which they don’t recognize themselves, or deny, where there needs to be intervention? I’m speaking from personal experience where my father would have manic episodes to the point that he became so sleep deprived that he would develop psychotic, delusional thinking. During two significant episodes that he had when I was a child, in the 60s, he was treated with Thorazine in pill form prescribed by his family Dr. and each time, the Thorazine would, eventually, pull him out of his psychosis and then he would resume “normal” life. There was no follow-up, no further treatment and for the remainder of his life he lived as an un-medicated, un-treated, bi-polar; staying mainly in the hypo-manic state. My childhood was pretty much chaotic, terrifying, and traumatic (as he was a rapid-cycler and his mood changes were rapid and un-predictable. I knew my childhood was different from others, but it never occurred to me to question why he was the way he was, he was just he, and he was the boss and I and my siblings followed his every command. He was very successful in a business sense; most likely because his financial wheelings and dealings kept his hypo-mania entertained. Though we never lived in one place for long because he was constantly buying and selling our homes, for a profit, and the we’d move on to another place. But anyway, to make along story short, during his last manic episode he once again developed psychotic delusions, but by then, he was re-married and his 2nd wife didn’t know anything about his past psychotic episodes and she didn’t recognize his need for help, to the point where it culminated into a murder-suicide with him shooting his 2nd wife and, then, himself. He was 48. Fast forward to 2011 and my 50 year old brother is manic, is not eating or sleeping and has developed psychotic delusions that one particular person is trying to kill him. He wouldn’t listen to the fact that he was not thinking clearly, he was NOT threatening to kill anyone or himself, therefore he didn’t fall into the criteria for a 72 hour emergency evaluation, where, I personally, feel that an anti-psychotic would have pulled him out of his psychotic delusions. He even, actually, called the County Sheriff’s to his son’s empty rental apartment where he was hiding out from his supposed stalker, to check all of the closets because he thought his stalker had made it into the apartment and was moving from closet to closet, getting ready to kill him. The Sheriff assessed the situation, told his diagnosed-schizophrenic wife that her husband needed to go to the hospital because he wasn’t thinking right, but basically there was nothing the Sheriff could do, because he didn’t fit the criteria to be hospitalized against his will. My brother wouldn’t go, he stated there was nothing wrong with him and it was “the guy” who was after him who was causing all of the problems, not him. According to his wife they spent the rest of the night driving around, they stopped @ their house for a few hours, then he woke her and told her they had to go and they went back to his son’s empty rental apartment, where his wife went into the living room and went back to sleep. She was awakened by a noise and when she went into the kitchen he was laying on the floor, in a corner facing the door, dead from a gun shot wound to the head. This is were my confusion lies. Shouldn’t we have been able to stop this somehow? Shouldn’t we have been able to have him hospitalized against his will? @ what point are we able to step in and save someone from themselves, when they’re armed and psychotic? I’m thankful that he didn’t take anyone with him, but, I guess that’s where I’m not “getting” your article. Is it o.k. to accept that you could have saved someones life if they had been given an anti-psychotic, but they couldn’t be given it, because of their freedom to refuse? Does a psychotic patient really “know” what they’re refusing. That’s all. I ask this question in all seriousness, I’m not trying to be ironic or sarcastic. It has really bothered me a lot that there wasn’t more I could do for my brother. Sure he was always a little “off” his whole life, but @ what point should we be able to intervene? I’m diagnosed Bi-Polar II, take an anti-depressant, but when I’m really stressed I need a light anti-psychotic, to combat my paranoia, which does resolve after being on it for a couple weeks, when I then taper-off. Any answers to my question to help me gain some in-sight and perspective would be appreciated.