“It is obvious to us that the anti-stigma rhetoric of the mental health conversation is simply enabling more diagnoses of disorders which are not there.” Yes! I have heard this from CEO’s of health authorities, that they’re trying to remove stigma by treating psychiatry like any other medical specialty. Or as the kids say ‘wait, what?’.
Tip of the iceberg. There is wide spread underfunding and cuts for disability organizations in Canada.
Organizations are too afraid to speak out in case their remaining meager funds are taken away in retribution.
No one voted for this.
Badly needed laugh! Thanks 🙂
Works for me 😀
I will survive
Oh, as long as I know how to love, I know I’ll stay alive
I’ve got all my life to live
And I’ve got all my love to give
And I’ll survive
I like what you’ve written very, very much.
You’ve said you trusted your doctors, but – and I say this with great respect – if you trusted them, why couldn’t you challenge what they said/did/prescribed?
Courage is hard to muster when you’re being kicked.
I’ve looked up these various scales and surveys mentioned in the article and there’s no mention of anything like ‘if I disagree I feel safe asking about it, or sticking up for myself until I get an answer I’m happy with/understand/agree with’.
You’ve hit upon an important omission. I’d like to read more about this angle as well.
I don’t think what they’ve changed it to is good enough:
“Haunted Hospital,” with the description, “This challenge will bring you to the brink of madness.”
Additionally, Canada has a very bad history with using stun guns on persons with psycho-social disabilities and other unarmed citizens. We have been challenged by the UN Committee Against Torture and our internal courts to no avail.
People shouldn’t die because police in Canada do not know how to respond to persons experiencing crises.
Let us remember, and never forget, that this is the city were a Toronto City Councillor and brother of the Mayor of Toronto said when objecting to a halfway house for autistic teenagers: “my heart goes out but I didn’t think they’d be leaving the house”
The city that humanity forgot. Zero deaths? Uh huh. And I’d like a pony.
I don’t know how it works in the states but in Canada you do NOT have to disclose a diagnosis. Confirmation of a disability and needed workplace accommodations come from doctors.
Thankfully there is no legal requirement to disclose a diagnosis. People would be wise to hold their cards close to their chest, we’re not that evolved yet.
This timidity can be seen right across the disability spectrum.
I am fed up to the teeth waiting quietly in a corner for someone to decide to recognize and allow me to realize my rights as a human.
The recent photo (not sure if links are allowed http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/633801.html) of protesters being tear gassed for wanting accessible transit is riveting. Why isn’t this happening more often? Why are parents picketing about the lack of educational supports? Why are pwd living in poverty and squalor demanding a livable income or god forbid – jobs?
The nearest thing I’ve seen to a protest is parents dropping off their adult children at government departments because they can no longer care for them.
I think we can do better. It’s not like it’s going to get worse.
Part one: get the legislation in place (check)
Part two: enforce those rights. I don’t know the answer, I sense it’s multifaceted whether it’s self advocacy, supported advocacy, legal assistance (student lawyers, paralegals etc) in the background or….?
Ideally legal aid should be available to pwd. That’s the next hurdle.
Bravo! YES a thousand times yes. But it is hard, and scary, and might not succeed the first or second attempt.
Culture is hard to change, but we now have unequivocal support.
Isn’t this wonderful!!
This should produce some spectacular lawsuits.
I know it must be frustrating to have this convention and not be able to utilize it because you live in the USA.
You have included ‘provincial’ so I am going to assume you’re included Canada in your reply? In a number of provincial and territorial human rights are is the inclusion of international human rights instruments. So yes, right now, today, judges can refer to and use the CRPD in Canada. It is my hope that this becomes the case for all countries.
As a Canadian directing effort at changing mental health acts at the provincial level has had no effect.
I am glad we have this convention, and that this General Comment makes clear our rights and our governments legal obligations.
We, and every other country who has ratified the CRPD are stronger for this, and for that I am grateful and hopeful.
Thank you for what I imagine was a herculean effort to write down these events. It can’t have been easy.
Glen Beck? Interesting choice.
The wrong question is being asked – that’s why we keep going around in circles.
In my opinion, the question that needs to be asked of the legal and health care industries is – why do we feel the need to involuntarily treat and commit other humans.
No one cared about her or for her.
No one showed her any love or compassion.
She was locked up, abused, alone and afraid.
I don’t think I would have lasted as long as she did.
I hope Harper is still in office when the UN responds to this. It will take public shame before those in power change. Bet he regrets not submitting the CRPD report in 2012 when it was due.
I’m Canadian and this story was a horror show from start to finish.
She was put in jail because she threw apples at a postal worker and had defiant behaviour and she wouldn’t stop or change.
A very important case that shows the dangers of a system that is out of touch, and out of time.
I would caution anyone from watching the videos. It’s hard. She had the sweetest little girl voice. I am deeply ashamed of what happened to her and all the others like her that have gone before, and since.
I didn’t think I lived in this Canada, I know better now.
“It is obvious to us that the anti-stigma rhetoric of the mental health conversation is simply enabling more diagnoses of disorders which are not there.” Yes! I have heard this from CEO’s of health authorities, that they’re trying to remove stigma by treating psychiatry like any other medical specialty. Or as the kids say ‘wait, what?’.
Tip of the iceberg. There is wide spread underfunding and cuts for disability organizations in Canada.
Organizations are too afraid to speak out in case their remaining meager funds are taken away in retribution.
No one voted for this.
Badly needed laugh! Thanks 🙂
Works for me 😀
I will survive
Oh, as long as I know how to love, I know I’ll stay alive
I’ve got all my life to live
And I’ve got all my love to give
And I’ll survive
I like what you’ve written very, very much.
You’ve said you trusted your doctors, but – and I say this with great respect – if you trusted them, why couldn’t you challenge what they said/did/prescribed?
Courage is hard to muster when you’re being kicked.
I’ve looked up these various scales and surveys mentioned in the article and there’s no mention of anything like ‘if I disagree I feel safe asking about it, or sticking up for myself until I get an answer I’m happy with/understand/agree with’.
You’ve hit upon an important omission. I’d like to read more about this angle as well.
https://www.niatx.net/PDF/PIPractice/FormsTemplates/Working_Alliance_Surveys.pdf
Well done Anne Thériault!
I don’t think what they’ve changed it to is good enough:
“Haunted Hospital,” with the description, “This challenge will bring you to the brink of madness.”
Additionally, Canada has a very bad history with using stun guns on persons with psycho-social disabilities and other unarmed citizens. We have been challenged by the UN Committee Against Torture and our internal courts to no avail.
People shouldn’t die because police in Canada do not know how to respond to persons experiencing crises.
As a Canadian I am ashamed.
Just one article: http://www.guelphmercury.com/opinion-story/4573138-expanded-use-of-police-tasers-should-concern-canadians/
Let us remember, and never forget, that this is the city were a Toronto City Councillor and brother of the Mayor of Toronto said when objecting to a halfway house for autistic teenagers: “my heart goes out but I didn’t think they’d be leaving the house”
The city that humanity forgot. Zero deaths? Uh huh. And I’d like a pony.
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2014/05/18/doug_ford_defends_comments_that_youth_group_home_ruined_community.html
I don’t know how it works in the states but in Canada you do NOT have to disclose a diagnosis. Confirmation of a disability and needed workplace accommodations come from doctors.
Thankfully there is no legal requirement to disclose a diagnosis. People would be wise to hold their cards close to their chest, we’re not that evolved yet.
This timidity can be seen right across the disability spectrum.
I am fed up to the teeth waiting quietly in a corner for someone to decide to recognize and allow me to realize my rights as a human.
The recent photo (not sure if links are allowed http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/633801.html) of protesters being tear gassed for wanting accessible transit is riveting. Why isn’t this happening more often? Why are parents picketing about the lack of educational supports? Why are pwd living in poverty and squalor demanding a livable income or god forbid – jobs?
The nearest thing I’ve seen to a protest is parents dropping off their adult children at government departments because they can no longer care for them.
I think we can do better. It’s not like it’s going to get worse.
Part one: get the legislation in place (check)
Part two: enforce those rights. I don’t know the answer, I sense it’s multifaceted whether it’s self advocacy, supported advocacy, legal assistance (student lawyers, paralegals etc) in the background or….?
Ideally legal aid should be available to pwd. That’s the next hurdle.
Bravo! YES a thousand times yes. But it is hard, and scary, and might not succeed the first or second attempt.
Culture is hard to change, but we now have unequivocal support.
Isn’t this wonderful!!
This should produce some spectacular lawsuits.
I know it must be frustrating to have this convention and not be able to utilize it because you live in the USA.
You have included ‘provincial’ so I am going to assume you’re included Canada in your reply? In a number of provincial and territorial human rights are is the inclusion of international human rights instruments. So yes, right now, today, judges can refer to and use the CRPD in Canada. It is my hope that this becomes the case for all countries.
As a Canadian directing effort at changing mental health acts at the provincial level has had no effect.
I am glad we have this convention, and that this General Comment makes clear our rights and our governments legal obligations.
We, and every other country who has ratified the CRPD are stronger for this, and for that I am grateful and hopeful.
Thank you for what I imagine was a herculean effort to write down these events. It can’t have been easy.
Glen Beck? Interesting choice.
The wrong question is being asked – that’s why we keep going around in circles.
In my opinion, the question that needs to be asked of the legal and health care industries is – why do we feel the need to involuntarily treat and commit other humans.
No one cared about her or for her.
No one showed her any love or compassion.
She was locked up, abused, alone and afraid.
I don’t think I would have lasted as long as she did.
I hope Harper is still in office when the UN responds to this. It will take public shame before those in power change. Bet he regrets not submitting the CRPD report in 2012 when it was due.
I’m Canadian and this story was a horror show from start to finish.
She was put in jail because she threw apples at a postal worker and had defiant behaviour and she wouldn’t stop or change.
A very important case that shows the dangers of a system that is out of touch, and out of time.
I would caution anyone from watching the videos. It’s hard. She had the sweetest little girl voice. I am deeply ashamed of what happened to her and all the others like her that have gone before, and since.
I didn’t think I lived in this Canada, I know better now.