Monday, October 25, 2021

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  • Heya James,

    thanks for the reply. Ten years ago today I was snatched out of my bed after some people set me up to be tortured and kidnapped (and then a bunch of public officers have ensured that they will not be held accountable by perverting the course of justice) and it’s been a time to reflect.

    I think your on the money with the projection. I know I certainly projected evil intent onto a lot of people who were, after all, simply trying to ensure that their wrongdoing wasn’t exposed. And I guess when your husband is a psychiatrist, calling the ‘problem’ a ‘patient’ to police to have them delivered to be killed with a little ‘accident’ is not necessarily evil, just practical (if you have the stomach for it that is). Especially once you realise that the State is “editing” documents to ensure that such misconduct goes unchecked, and that human rights abuses may be obvious to a population being brutalised but …. ya can’t prove it with the fraudulent documents hahaha.

    You write; “I think the difference may be character. I think those of us who quest to improve themselves and not others are likely to determine the true nature of reality. As we are really only able to understand the world through the lens of things we have observed and understood for ourselves. If we spend time reflecting on that it can be great, if not it will likely be very little. What are your thoughts?”

    I know from where I look now I look back and think about the people who I tried to warn about the way the State was finding ways around the protections afforded by our laws (or supposed protections. When the person who has a duty to protect human rights is uttering with fraudulent documents to ensure they DON’T do their job, and the legal representatives of those having their human rights abused are prepared to accept fraudulent documents and then turn a blind eye at the request of the State while they ‘tidy up their little mess’ using psychiatry as a justification (is it really psychiatry if they are using it to kill and maim? Or is the intention of the profession something a little more honorable? [Hi to the people at the Mental Health Law Centre by the way, and whoever wrote that letter purporting to be from the Chief Psychiatrist]). Point being, there are many people now complaining about the loss of their human rights while police simply batter them in the streets to ensure their compliance until they can change the laws to make their criminal conduct lawful. I delivered the message and warned, as was my duty. Not for me to project and predict COVID and the resulting rise of National Socialism (strangely this State passed laws in 2016 allowing the forced vaccination of ANYONE a doctor signed a ‘warrant’ for, allowing them to be stripped naked and injected without their consent. See s. 158 of the Public Health Act)

    I think looking at the documentary I posted as a whole, I started to realise that like the politicians Curtis describes losing their relevance due to not being able to provide the dreams they had been promising in the 1950s etc, they turned to the power of nightmares, to have the populations turn to them for ‘protections’. have doctors not taken the same path? Where is the cure for cancer? Diabetes? Asthma? Watch the documentary carefully and consider that question. They have made a grab at power with a nightmare……. covid19. People who were ‘health managers’ are now thrust into the spotlight, the public now needs them, and will pull grannys gold teeth out with rusty pliers to pay them.

    And of course what I see is that with the nightmare that has returned power to the medical fraternity, is that the increase in the levels of fear has resulted in a bonus for ‘mental health’. Maybe they won’t need to be calling police and lying that people are their ‘Outpatients’ to have them subjected to ‘acute stress reactions because no one wants to talk to the ‘public torturers’ at that place they try to call a hospital. It’s more like a silencing unit for the State (and other ‘associated’ professionals see for example the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. How many of their victims ended up being drugged and slandered every time they tried to speak the truth?). Consider that these child rapists were not held to account, or reported (well, I suppose their was “insufficient evidence” which is the term used here when police fail to act and are cutting some slack for a mate) because their crimes were seen as being “character flaws”.

    I digress, but I hope I’ve answered at least part of your question. Others here do it so much better than a tired worn out torture victim.

    I like that you write; “The lies are for those who weren’t there and don’t know what its like.”

    In my case the lies were done by people who were there, and enjoy watching what it’s like. When it is being done to others that is. Start with that one lie told by the Community Nurse who knew I had been ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug and was unconscious in my bed. “I need some help with a patient Officers”. And the consequences of such a lie and if the ‘target’ isn’t compliant? Consider being able to point a finger at anyone and tell police you would like them prepared for a mental health assessment that was a foregone conclusion, because you WILL confess to your illness (or end un non compos mentis with a ‘chemical restraint’ that is an overmedication aka torture)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOoRiI8HVU&t=30s

    Of course now you have been prepared for an ‘interrogation’ whilst ‘spiked’ you can now be verballed and they can begin ‘overmedicating’ you with a chemical restraint. (overmedicating being an act of torture according to the UN but hey, who cares, the rules don’t apply when the Chief Psychiatrist only examines the “edited” version.

    So for what it’s worth, my character has focused on ensuring that my brothers are aware of what the State is doing to ‘protect’ them from those dangerous Islamophobes lol. By ensuring that they can snatch people from their beds, torture and kidnap them, and then snuff them should they dare complain about the services they are being provided with our universal health care system. And it all looks like ‘medicine’. You guys in the US don’t know what your missing out on.

    P.S. I think your doing a great job getting the information out about the potential for damage with TMS. I wondered about what alternatives there are for people and then realised…….. TMS is the second choice. What’s the first? ANYTHING ELSE lol

  • Hi James,

    I just read the wiki page on Havana syndrome and whilst I understand that your comparing the outcomes, and not the causes, I thought i’d direct your attention to the result of the Team B ‘investigations’ talked about it this documentary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsh6F6gMch0

    The whole thing worth watching but ….see Prof. Pipes talking at about 27 mins about how they simply make shit up and then start believing their own lies. Something along the lines of “the lack of evidence is proof that they have these weapons and are using them” lol.

    Not unlike psychiatric diagnosis really. “potential for violence but no clear intent or actual history” becomes justification for incarceration and forced drugging into a brain damaged state to ensure that their paranoid delusions do not materialise. A ‘first strike’ police by mental health services oughtta work right?

    Anyhow, take a look at the Team B conclusions and compare them to the claims being made with Havana syndrome causes.

  • A point that needs correcting.

    Above I refer to myself as meeting the standard of being a “referred person” under the Mental Health Act, and NOT an “Outpatient”. This is incorrect as on closer examination of the documents it is noted that under the section where it requires a “Referral Source” the answer is written as “Unknown”.

    The whole point of my wife and the Private Clinic Psychologist discussing what items needed to be ‘planted’ on me (to meet the requirements of s. 68 e of the Criminal Code [in possession of a weapon and illicit drugs]) once I was incapacitated with the ‘spiking’ with benzos was to provide police with justification to make a referral post hoc (ie once I had been ‘verballed’ on the statutory declaration).

    THEY DID NOT DO THIS. And thus the Community Nurse was simply going to need to run with the lie that I was his “outpatient” and create the appearance that I was a Police referral (under s. 196 of the MHA) for his colleagues when police delivered me to the locked ward.

    So if I wasn’t an “outpatient”, and I wasn’t a “referred person” what was I? Well, and I know this is a little inconvenient for some people, I was actually being kidnapped after being tortured. A victim of crimes, but it just didn’t look like it (which is kind of clever really).

    Now one of the problems I am faced with is that I wanted to get a divorce, and was concerned about the lawyers providing the fraudulent set of documents to the Federal Court. I mean I get it that they find it easy to “edit” the legal narrative and fool me (and of course by threatening the lawyers and witnesses, they are quite happy to look the other way) but …… a Federal Court judge might just notice. I doubt they would appreciate being put in such a compromising situation myself. But nice move on the part of the hospital to get others to utter with their fraud, and leave a trail back to the Clinical Director of the hospital who I believe was unaware that he had authorised the fraud to be distributed (it’s not really “editing” when you change legal narrative to conceal such serious offences is it?).

    One other point I should note for anyone following up on the Josef Hartinger ‘link’. Consider the situation when a doctor went into a police station here and admitted killing a terminally ill patient (the State being responsible for any corrupt actions by it’s officers. see Corrina Horvath comments by the U.N.). What would Himmler do? well, we were told that more than 90% of the public wanted Euthanasia Laws (no proof of the figure provided. And if were going to pass laws based on public support, more people actually support Capital Punishment, but I don’t see that being promoted by Politicians in the media) and the laws were pushed through Parliament with little ‘opposition’ (one guy I think, the rest went to the football while the matter was ‘debated’. See Facebook photos of the party). [still no answer on the ability to “edit” documents relating to the ‘treating’ of patients wishing to access this legislation]. However, the laws have now been passed and killing is a form of treatment for the terminally ill (amendments soon to follow allowing access for the mentally ill no doubt).

    A question I have is; Do they swab the persons arm with alcohol to ensure that they do not get an infection from the lethal injection? And would they be neglecting their duty of care if they didn’t?

  • I guess what is different about the situation with the man whose brain chemicals were unbalanced by a police officers boot, and the man who was dragged from his home to check his welfare [“we’re concerned for your welfare” are words you do not want to hear from police here. They are rightly concerned because they know they are going to kick the shit out of you once they get their hands on you] because his psychologist was concerned about him not wishing to speak to him/her, is that I wasn’t actually a “patient”.

    The requirement that the person be a “patient” before they are subjected to the inducing of an “acute stress reaction” a legal requirement. In both cases this requirement appears to have been met. The first man had asked for assistance in an Emergency Dept, and the second was we are led to believe had spoken to a psychologist within the previous 48 hours. This “Time Limit” (s. 32. Time Limit for referral under s. 29 ) on lawful referral necessary before the psychologist can have the ‘treatment’ administered by police to the mans legs and face.

    This issue in my instance became a problem because the psychologist who was claiming to be MY psychologist didn’t actually have a referral for me, and was therefore NOT my psychologist, and I was NOT a “patient” by definition of the Mental Health Act. Easily remedied, just have the victim sign something making them into a patient, and thus remove any and all of their human rights. Failing that, just “edit” the documents for their legal representatives and tell them to look the other way on this one and they can be rewarded with extra State funding next time around.

    Better do it quick though, because someone might notice that she was using her position to have people tortured and kidnapped. Police can only pretentd they haven’t got a copy of the Criminal Code for so long. And providing resources to retrieve documents showing the crimes is awfully tricky, because getting their family members to commit the offences (Compound and Conceal Evidence, Conspire to Pervert the Course of Justice) and using your ‘discretionary’ is always a bit dodgy. Well, not really but ……

    So consider that what is done to the “patients” in the above videos is being authorised by our Chief Psychiatrist as being lawful for any citizen when he writes that the Authorised Mental Health Practitioner “need only ‘suspect’, on grounds they believe to be reasonable that the person requires an examination by a psychiatrist” rather than the s. 29 standard of “suspect on reasonable grounds that the person should be an involuntary patient [and thus meet the criteria of s. 26 of the Act]”. Logic and reason removed and therefore authorising arbitrary detentions, and the changing of the belief that the person (who MUST HAVE a mental illness, not be suspected of having) requires being an involuntary patient to a nice little chat with a psychiatrist.

    All minor details that can be “edited” and threaten anyone who dares suggest that anything was done wrong. Police can ensure that the victim is arrested and referred should they turn up in a police station (a practice called ‘stitching’ here. A bit like putting kittens into a bag and stitching the sack closed before throwing it into a pond. See the young woman who escaped the serial killers Katherine and David Burnie who was nearly ‘stitched’ after attending a police station when she finally broke free of her captives who had kidnapped, raped and murdered a number of women already. ‘Stitching’. I note that people tend to feel empathy for the kittens, not so much for the ‘mental patients’ being bashed by police? Might explain why our laws are stacked the way they are protecting animals but not ‘mental patients’?)

    Point being, watch the videos of the inducing of “acute stress reactions” to assist mental health professionals have citizens who do not recognise that they need to have their wallets emptied for damaging their brains with chemicals and electricity (ie refusing to consent) and why the method is so effective in having them consent. I understand that the law allows such conduct when the target has been defined as “patient”, but what if all that was done was that a Community Nurse simply lied to Police and said “patient” to enable the citizen to be ‘verballed’?

    This is of course the very definition of arbitrary detentions. And what interests me most is the way the authorities charged with ensuring that the community is protected go about ensuring that they can simply ignore citizens who have been tortured and kidnapped, and simply refer them for ‘treatment’ should they complain. But it sure is a great way to ensure that human rights abuses are concealed, especially when the legal representatives of the victims can be used to slander the victims should they seek effective legal representation elsewhere. Uttering with the fraud prepared by the hospital, and claiming ‘plausible deniability’. Of course such people never go to prison for such conspiring to pervert etc. Our prisons are full of aboriginals who stole a packet of pencils from Piggly Wiggly (well maybe in Tasmania there is room in the prisons because they don’t have any Aboriginals left to imprison. Did you see what the Chinese are doing in Xinjiang to Uighers? “Australia should get on the right side of history” Charlie Pickering tells us. We have a long ‘history’ of such conduct that goes back a long way on such behaviour, and the hypocrisy of ‘getting on the right side of history’ might be noticed. Though I note the anosognosia emanating from our Parliaments regarding such conduct).

    And well, the truth is such matters can be delayed, frustrated and obstructed for years. ‘Insufficient evidence’ after police send emails that never arrive and then close matters when you don’t respond. There is insufficient evidence, when you assist in the retrieval of the evidence and then refuse to accept it because it exposes the fraud and uttering by Public Officers. (and I feel certain the Senior Constable who threatened to arrest me for having my medical records showing that I had been ‘spiked’ with benzos before being interrogated for 7 hours would drop the charges before it got to court [stitching]. Or that his failed attempt to refer me to the people who arranged my ‘spiking’ for “hallucinating” about being drugged without my knowledge [not a hallucination if you have documented proof] “never happened” once the witnesses had been contacted and informed of the danger their families now found themselves in. Just following the orders on the police system, don’t take the proof of the torture and kidnapping if this guy turns up in a police station, were running with a false narrative that he is a “patient” until we can arrange an ‘unintended negative outcome’. So like Jamal Kashoggi they simply ‘flag’ victims and ensure they are silenced with assistance form the Police should they try and make a compliant about the criminal conduct. Warm up the ECT machine would you nurse, i’d like to extract some Medicare money from this ‘patient’ before they are outcomed.

  • “If what Jorge Rafael Videla said is true”

    Trouble is it isn’t true. It was a justification for ‘disappearing’ (these days called ‘treatment’) anyone who was a threat to his leadership.

    “terrorists”, like ‘mental patients’ need to be defined in such a way that makes what ‘we’ do ‘good’ and what ‘they’ do, bad. So a Catholic Priest who was also a Senior Medical Officer at the hospital where I was tortured and kidnapped gets to call me ‘mentally ill’ as a direct result of his own paranoid delusions [aren’t ALL Muslims a threat to Christianity?] (ie he writes that I had “potential for violence but no clear intent or actual history”. Consider that comment carefully, his paranoid delusion becomes my symptom of an ‘illness’. Because based on this he authorised a ‘snow job’ list of chemicals to be administered. See the above video regarding the ‘induced coma’ [or ask Someone Else about how ‘snow jobs’ operate).

    And consider the changes to the laws brought about as a result of the investigation by Josef Hartinger at Dachau. That was the point at which the National Socialists moved to a ‘pre emptive’ means of dealing with their political opponents. Himmler had a problem in that he wanted to continue with the killings, but knew they were unlawful. But what if you could do it based on someone having ‘potential’? They were a ‘potential threat’ to the National Socialist’s State?

    A quote from my verballed Form 1.

    “Potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships”

    Written by a man who has arranged to have police drag me from my bed, subject me to acts of torture, slander me and then have me kidnapped. I am then placed up against a Police van parked on my mother and father in laws garden, and then thrown into the back of the Police van whilst they watch. Good news is that when they wondered what I was being arrested for, they could be told I wasn’t actually being arrested but taken to the locked ward of a mental institution for my potential to do damage to my reputation and meaningful relationships. We call this “healthcare”, and when I asked for some form of documentation he provided me with a “With Compliments” slip. He’s a funny guy huh? I wonder how many other lives he has destroyed in this manner for no other reason than someone asked him to?

    Hey, did you hear that people are being arbitrarily detained in Hong Kong by police who are stopping them from throwing petrol bombs and exercising their human rights to protest peacefully? Bloody human rights abusing Chinese huh?

    “This is because both Western and Christian civilization are the absolute, exact opposite of psychiatry; which is nothing but pure evil.”

    This got me thinking about the Catholic Priest who used to be a psychiatrist (working in the role of Senior Medical Officer and pretending to be a psychiatrist the day I met him. made it easy to claim I had provided consent when asked to remove my clothes and allow him to insert objects into my mouth. Well, my comment about me knowing he wasn’t a psychiatrist and that if he did he would be assaulting me of no concern when your victims are at such a disadvantage. (Under s. 36 of the act I was considered a ‘referred person’, and had lost my right to liberty but significantly NOT my right to consent. [though he knew I had been ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug, and I didn’t] Exercising the right to detain beyond the statutory requirement not a problem when you can ‘chemically restrain’ anyone who wishes to leave your control. Sure would be handy if victims of Institutional abuse turned up telling inconvenient truths about your colleagues too right? Might go some way to explaining how some of these Priests racked up more than 300 victims without anyone ‘noticing’)

  • Referring back to the video of the man who left the hospital because he had been waiting for 24 hours.

    Look carefully and consider that the hospital has asked police to induce an “acute stress reaction” in this man to have him comply with the nurses wishes. This is something that is being done on a regular basis in my State.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A262DPeR34&t=3s

    Here’s another example of what happen if you refuse to speak to your ‘doctor’.

    Two points I would make.

    (1) I wasn’t actually anyone’s “patient” but this doesn’t seem to be an issue because our Chief Psychiatrist doesn’t recognise ANY protections from being arbitrarily detained. A Community Nurse has the power to make any citizen into his “Outpatient” based on a telephone call from a ‘concerned citizen’ (read someone who doesn’t like what another is saying).
    (2) Given that acts of torture are being redefined using the euphemism of “acute stress reaction” (ie the hospital staff are fully aware that police can be used to induce such reactions with head stomping etc) and that in order to ‘enhance’ this practice, targets can be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs which can be concealed later by having a doctor sign a prescription for the ’emergency treatment’, why is there not a Form to request such a response from Police?

    So the Community Nurse wants a citizen who will likely refuse to speak to him subjected to an “acute stress reaction” and has arranged to have them ‘spiked’ with benzos calls police and requests assistance with his “Outpatient”. Police then stomp on the targets head a few times (variety of options here, we could get really creative) and now they are quite willing to talk, and can easily be ‘verballed’ on the statutory declarations. These fraudulent documents now become a rock solid defense against the acts of torture and kidnapping (and with the ability to “edit” documents for the targets legal representatives?)…… this is just too easy if you ask me.

    So given the bureaucratic nature of our State, where’s the request Form for the “acute stress reactions”? Oh wait, I see it, it’s listed as being a “Job Number” provided by Police to the Community Nurse when he called them and LIED about me being his “Outpatient”. One formal request for a head stomping to ensure he has the opportunity to ‘verbal’ someone and conceal his criminal conspiracy to torture and kidnap. (and consider that the Senior Constable has ‘discretionary powers’ over such serious offences. Nothing that can’t be “insufficient evidenced” away at a later time).

    “What brings you back to these parts Boans? Sorry we’ve been out of touch, it’s a long miserable summer here.”

    I remember seeing Doc Whitely in a waiting room of a hospital with a young man who was obviously being abused by a psychiatrist. I got the impression that he was going to advocate for the man to try and have at least some of his human right returned. It impressed me because as you can see, in my State daring to say anything out of order can get you ‘snuffed’ (“edit” to documents and Police will ensure witnesses are threatened and proof retrieved. I know, I know, :it never happened” and “they wouldn’t do that” and that narrative can be maintained if no one ever looks :)).

    I was replying to another much older article and saw this review, sooooo.

  • “Would you say that psychiatry-mental health, are part of an authoritarian political order in society today?”

    “A terrorist is not just someone with a gun or a bomb, but also someone who spreads ideas that are contrary to Western and Christian civilization.”

    — Jorge Rafael Videla

    ie someone who holds ideas contrary to established medical beliefs such as anti psychiatrists. So I understand the need to silence me, and this is something others who hold similar beliefs need to be made aware of (ie that the State is allowing such political beliefs to be redefined as an ‘illness’ and ‘treated’ by force if necessary. Call the Police and request assistance with your “Outpatient”).

    Of course there are times when the facts contradict existing ‘medical advice’, and so there needs to be political means to ensure that the choir is singing the same song.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

    How ironic that he died of an infection that came from a beating in a mental institution? Almost as ironic as a Premier whose TicToc video shows him removing his mask (strip tease fashion) to the tune of Thus Spake Zarathustra? The irony lost on a public who worship their Safe and Strong Leader. Ubermensch anyone? lol

    [from a government that failed to pass Forced Sterilisation without Parental Consent Laws, but succeeded with a Euthanasia Act]

  • “Would you say that psychiatry-mental health, are part of an authoritarian political order in society today?”

    I think you may be surprised at my long answer to that question. My short answer is whatever the ‘verballing’ Community Nurse wants it to be lol. I mean he is being allowed to torture people to complete fraudulent statutory declarations for the authorities to utter with, and conceal his human rights abuses so……. I say whatever I am told to say by the voices that come from the locked ward lol.

    Strangely after much soul searching and trying to understand who are the ‘good guys’ and the ‘bad guys’ I have come to realise that there is a battle occurring within psychiatry between those that would have it as an authoritarian political tool, and then those who realise the dangers of that occurring.

    i consider the people who were arranging to have me ‘snuffed’ to conceal their wrongdoing in the E.D. the former, and those who ‘don’t have the stomach for it’ and interrupted the ‘unintended negative outcome’ the latter.

    There are of course those who consider themselves clever enough to fool the authorities into committing offences for them. Imagine being able to get a corrupt Community Nurse (Authorised Mental Health Practitioner) to procure the services of police to enable the torture and kidnapping of citizens after you have arranged to have them ‘spiked’ and plant items for police to find and provide a referral source post hoc? (simply tell Police the target is your “Outpatient” and then conceal that from your colleagues making the target look like a police referral. Come on Constable, you found the knife and the bong right? So can I use you as my referral source? Thanks. I still get searched for the knife they have me as having a ‘history’ for, and risk being shot every time I have an interaction with police for a knife that was ‘planted’ on me to enable them to make what appeared to be a lawful referral.) It really is pretty clever, and the Police then find themselves providing material support to organised criminals by proxy (even having to commit offences because applying for search warrants to retrieve documented proof of their being ‘stooged’ becomes more important than the victims, who can of course now be ‘treated’ for their truth speaking.
    Claiming to have been interrogated for 7 hours whilst drugged with a date rape drug without your knowledge a ‘paranoid delusion’ should the State wish to “edit” the documented reality, and have a doctor sign a prescription AFTER the police and Community Nurse have subjected a citizen to acts of torture.

    But having watched as these people were ‘tested’ by something that they clearly do not understand, I get the feeling that there is someone with a sense of humour watching and laughing at their feeble attempts to conceal the truth when they know what it is. Perhaps that person or persons is a psychiatrist with a knowledge of the prophesies, and knows just which strings to pull and when?

    We are close to Eid al Adha which of course relates to the testing of Abraham. Would these people have gone through with their planned evil actions, and if so we thus know what was in their hearts. Information not readily available except to those who know the tests to be applied. (see Harut and Marut).

    I do however have concerns about the corruption within mental health services, and within the Police. And of course having witnessed their corruption first hand (and had my family and life “fuking destroyed” by the State for daring to complain about it [see the Operations Manager who investigated the matters and then “edited” the documents for others to utter with and had my family threatened]) I know that they have demonstrated mens rea as a direct result of their concealment of their offending. Of course their usual victims tend to end up with a rope round their necks or a chemically unbalanced brain due to a small lead pill. The stigma that can be generated by these corrupt individuals, and the ability to have police provide material support in their offending put the victims at a distinct disadvantage (or so they think te he).

    I guess what I am saying is that mental health services could be used in such a manner. In much the same way a knife could be used to prepare your evening meal, or to murder. I just don’t want to be making it too easy for people who plunge carving knives into peoples chests to be able to say ‘i’m a doctor, and therefore it’s medicine’. Mind you, maybe they would prefer ending up in jail when they finally become aware of how these matters are dealt with (the look on their faces when they finally realise they were being watched the whole time lol. I understand now the reason it is best to not look into their eyes. It’s positively intoxicating).

    One of my heroes is a man called Bilal ibn Rabah (as) who was tortured by his slave master, and who I will rely on for my answer to your question. There is only ONE authority in my life. Ahad. And I will not recant that truth despite the tortures I have been subjected to. Bow down to people who are nothing more than demonstrable hypocrites, frauds and slanderers? No thanks, and I am glad that there was a community of people who recognised the truth, and acted on that truth to ensure that no further harm came to anyone else in this community.

    We hear a lot about the large sums of money that are to be allocated to ‘mental health’ in this Nation. You can’t buy good deeds, they are done by people who know the true meaning of charity. And I get the feeling that once God leads people astray, little can be done other than warn them. Something that they sometime would prefer to say they never heard, and thus attack the messenger rather than alter their own conduct (Oh the power the Operations Manager must feel every time one of her gaslighting victims kills themselves. I am reminded of the track Dogs by Pink Floyd on Animals. “After a while, you can work on points for style….”)

    Are there people sitting around conspiring over these matters? You bet your life there are, though if you can label one of them “patient” it is no longer conspiring but considered ‘help’. Imagine being able to make people into “patients” post hoc. Care to see how that’s done? And care to see how those charged with defending the community from such conduct respond to such acts? Not how you would imagine.

    I wonder how you (and others) feel about the way that man was treated by police. It reminds me of footage I have seen of Jews being dragged from their homes during Hitlers time. The ‘stigma’ being the driving force, which in my case was done with one simple lie to the police. And the people doing it fully aware of the consequences of what they were doing. refuse to talk to us so we can ‘verbal’ you. You can refuse to talk to police, but they can kick your head in if you refuse to talk to a Community Nurse? Wow, and our Politicians have worked so hard to protect us? Yeah right.

    We need to be aware of the Josef Hartingers and not allow these people to create legal loopholes to be exploited (imagine the ability to “edit” documents to conceal criminal conduct in regard our new Euthanasia Laws? can’t have the lawyers looking at those documents so here’s some we prepared earlier).

    Still, when the Chief Psychiatrist who provides “expert legal advice to the Minister” doesn’t even recognise a burden of proof (suspect on reasonable grounds. And who gave him the ability to remove legal protections from the Law anyway? care to see the letter the Law Centre didn’t have time to read?) before having people snatched from their beds for ‘treatment’ for an ‘illness’ made up on the spot by a Community Nurse, we can hardly go pointing fingers at China.

    But don’t ask me, ask my wife or the witnesses….. oh that’s right, they have a right to silence (and will maintain that silence due to being threatened by Public Officers). I get spiked with benzos and subjected to an ‘acute stress reaction’ (see the head stomping) before being interrogated for 7 hours, and then that gets called medical care because I was slandered as being an “Outpatient” and my medical records tampered with before being released. That “editing” is so disgraceful I still feel like vomiting when I realised what the intention of releasing that confidential information was about. I’d be very careful what you tell these people, because whilst the person you speak to may be acting in good faith when documenting the reasons for your ‘pain’, the Operations Manager isn’t so nice when it comes to “editing” those documents and slandering you to your legal representatives to have them assist in concealing acts of torture and human rights abuses.

  • Something that was covered quite well by Viktor Frankl I think Steve McCrea.

    There’s always this hope that somehow people are going to recognise that your a human and you will be released for Christmas. Too late of course once your incarcerated, you should have gotten out earlier. And now all you have is what your wearing because the parasites have stripped you of your belongings and you can not access remedy to have your property returned. even your own government is prepared to look away whilst your ‘outcomed’ (being a foreign National that is) because you would only be a burden now that your ‘treatment’ has started.

    I note that Conversion Therapy has been banned in one of our States recently. Some comments from a ‘media personality’;
    “Conversion Therapy itself has ranged from exorcism to lobotomies to chemical castration and forcing victims to have sex with people of the opposite gender……
    some maintain practicing Conversion Therapy is their religious freedom, the U.N. calls it torture.
    What’s certain is that even after the Royal Commission (into institutional responses to child sexual abuse) it remains one last form of child abuse that Churches want to practice out in the open”

    Strange really when you think about that comment. The Churches are attacked for their use of psychiatry as a weapon (and to torture people not conforming to their idea of ‘normal’) but not a word said about the continued use of psychiatry by the State for the very same purposes? The ‘treatments’ haven’t changed, only the ‘targets’.

    Meet the new bosses, same as the old bosses.

    “What was not so out in the open was the abstentions on the vote to ban. “The closet nays. Maybe some were just experimenting with being nays. They were nay curious. But we can still convert them, because remember, even if they are nay, there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s just the Devil inside them. We could pray away their nay. And if that doesn’t work there’s always electro shock treatments and chemical castration.
    Now if that sounds a little too much like torture, don’t worry. It’s just therapy” (The Weekly with Charlie Pickering S 7 E 2 2:25-4:25).

    The ‘weapon’ is being recalibrated by the State. See for example the changes removing ‘exclusions’ and placing of ‘mental health professionals’ into every Police station to accept referrals of people who start acting a little strangely when they are subjected to ‘enhanced coercive interrogations’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    I’m sure they can balance the chemicals in his brain once he comes out of the coma. And of course with no accountability measures AT ALL, there will no doubt be “insufficient evidence” for any action over the ‘concerning aspects’ of this ‘treatment’.

    I won’t even raise the issue of semantics, because I’d possibly be accused of being anti semantic. Bad enough I’m still being slandered as a result of having items planted on me for police to find TEN YEARS LATER. Such power provided to Community Nurses to change the status of a person to allow Police to arbitrarily detain, and then fix the paperwork up later with “editing”.

    I’d “leave town” tomorrow if I had the chance. Though even my own government will provide zero assistance to someone who was tortured and kidnapped (depending on the Nation that is abusing the human rights of course. The 5 eyes appear to have an ‘arrangement’ in place where they ignore the ‘indiscretions’ of their fellow ‘peepers’) But like an abusers is going to allow their victims to leave? And what, start talking outside of the ‘cult’?

    I never really wanted to live in a place where the State is “editing” their human rights abuses before having ‘advocates’ (euphemisms for backstabbing conspiring legal representatives) throw their victims under a bus at their most vulnerable time (for payments in state funding). It starts to look like a Military Junta disguised as a democracy when people are being ‘disappeared’ while the ‘mechanism’ of the State gets the paperwork in order.

    I note the recent use of the COVID tracking data (which we were promised was for tracking of COVID cases only) by Police has resulted in penalties for misuse being passed (why there was no penalty until the media exposed the breaches one can only speculate. Especially given that the government knew about the breaches for some time before it was exposed.). Which is really strange when you consider that the Police are the ones who are abusing the system, and will find “insufficient evidence” to prosecute their own misconduct in regards the data breaches. It’s like the laws ‘protecting’ mental patients that have NEVER been used. Good news for animals though, the laws protecting them have been strengthened, and have actually been prosecuted. We can but hope.

    One the surface though, it all looks fine. As I am sure was the case in Germany. The envy of other Nations at the time. You just need a few people who ‘have the stomach for it’ apparently.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP4yP3-I8Tk

    “my karma tells me, you’ve been screwed again. If ya let them do it to ya, you’ve got yourself to blame. It’s you who feels the pain, it’s you who takes the shame”

  • “Why do so many, agree to ‘appease’ authority figures in this way?
    Where do many people first learn to appease authority figures, by suppressing , repressing and denying their rightful and sane, painful emotions and feelings?”

    Good question.

    I note the arbitrary detentions being enabled by our Mental Health Acts (label someone an “outpatient” and then call police to provide assistance in having them ‘comply’ with treatment)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    seems to mirror the tactics of the Gestapo; ie terrorise the public and be brutal about it. ( I wonder how many people who refuse the ‘help’ get treated like this as a result? Especially when the Community Nurse can simply lie to police and call anyone their “outpatient” and “edit” the documents later. Flip the script and make them a ‘police referral’ for their colleagues once the citizen has been convinced to ‘confess’ to their illness. ie ‘verbal’ them and then utter with the fraudulent statutory declaration)

    As you would be aware Magdalene, the Police are totally unaccountable in Australia (see the comments by Senator Marshall re the Corrina Horvath case and the ignoring of ANY recommendations by Royal Commissions) and thus such a situation provides those charged with ensuring our communities are “mental healthy” carte blanche. How many time do we need to hear that there is “insufficient evidence” after Police refuse to take the proof of offences by ‘Party Members’, and are openly being allowed to pervert the course of justice and undermine totally our mythical rule of law?

    Simply have police provide you with unaccountability by using them as your go to when a ‘citizens’ political beliefs are deviating from ‘community standards’ (ie those of the Morality Police). So a Private Clinic psychologist calls a Community Nurse to have a citizen snatched form their home and delivered for ‘forced treatment’ by having the Community Nurse lie to Police and ‘detain’ the target as in the video above.

    “Why do so many, agree to ‘appease’ authority figures in this way?”

    Because if you don’t, the State will fuking destroy you (and your family).

    We point fingers at Chinas “Vocational Training Centres” and their “students” who are receiving “voluntary re education” and call them human rights abuses. But how many people are prepared to actually look at these “mental hospitals” and their “patients” and really see what is actually occurring with “informed consent”? But we have no concerns about the “unintended negative outcomes” occurring while police refuse to take evidence of the criminal conduct of doctors? (a joint enterprise? If only Police had a copy of the Criminal Code, and Australians really valued a rule of law)

    A brief look at history with a critical eye will reveal that following the US isn’t actually the problem. The ‘problem’ appears to lie in the regression to a place where there are people who are unaccountable, can arbitrarily detain and force drug and electro shock (and call it medicine), can “edit” documents to conceal human rights abuses (and I note are provided assistance in that process of fraud and slander by legal ‘advocates’), and can simply ignore the truth and claim there is “insufficient evidence” due to their own criminal negligence.

    I’d be looking at a history of the laws in National Socialist Germany for clues as to where we are heading. A ‘gestapo’ is forming, and is being accepted by the community based on their fears (One psychologist telling me after he was threatened by Police that he was afraid for his family, and thus what he knew to be true “never happened”) A group of people who are unaccountable to the law, who are literally snatching people from their homes and subjecting them to incarceration and torture, and who when faced with facts simply “edit” the reality and then start uttering with that fraud.

    And worst of all are the hypocrites. Those who claim to despise such conduct (those nasty Nazis) and who then turn their backs on the victims while they are loaded into the ‘showers’. Words issuing from their mouths such as “well, you must have done something wrong” or “they wouldn’t do that [but I won’t check just in case they did. Woops, shouldn’t have looked]”

    Closet Nazis seem to be the real problem, not taking on the ‘American model’. In a free market the guy in the video wouldn’t need to have his head stomped to get him to buy the ‘product’. I can only assume that the guys “distress and fear” was a result of his chemically unbalanced brain and nothing to do with the ‘concerning aspects’ of his detention? (which of course can simply be ignored even when the Professional Standards Committee investigates. Police simply tell them to Argo)

  • What else do I have other than my personal experience? And had the States plan to ‘unintentionally negatively outcome’ me gone ahead rather than be rudely interrupted I would NOT be writing on this website. Like the so many who were not so lucky to have someone who ‘doesn’t have the stomach for it’ notice what was being done to people who are being falsely labelled “outpatients” and then snatched from their homes by police.

    And given that our Chief Psychiatrist has, in writing, authorised arbitrary detentions and acts of torture, what other Nations should I compare our ‘situation’ to? I mean okay I get it no one cares to actually examine the proof, and prefers the “edited” version of reality and the slander which has been unlawfully released in the form of my medical records, but ….. it’s like the laws written to protect the community from misconduct by public officers NEVER being used (though it does create the appearance of compliance with the agreements that have been ratified with no intention of standing by them. The mouth does not say what is demonstrated by the actions to conceal human rights abuses *), and then claiming that the human rights record is good because no one gets to even make a complaint without being ‘referred’ to mental health services for ‘treatment’ should they be subjected to acts of torture.

    How easy is that when you can simply call police and tell them that any citizen is an “outpatient” and then arrange to have them ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs which now with a bit of document “editing” becomes their “Regular Medication” and can interrogate them for 7 hours at the point of a weapon? Luckily the State has a way of threatening and intimating witnesses to ensure that “it never happened”. Care to take a look?

    Free world my arse.

    * Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give the appearance of solidity to pure wind. George Orwell.

    “Whatever my personal experience is”? Try telling that to Viktor Frankl.

  • “Given the fact that their internet is censored, God knows what hell they go through because no information apart from what their mental health systems tell them reaches them, nor can they communicate with the outside world.”

    You mean ours isn’t?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/nsw-police-pushed-for-black-lives-matter-mural-to-be-removed/13363898

    I was listening recently to a report from the UN stating that Muslims are suffering a “Dystopian Hellhole” in certain areas of China. I assume they are referring to the situation with Uigher (an ethnic group), and note that they are making appeals to the Australian government who have been treating Aboriginal people in a similar way for nearly two centuries now. Check the history of the people your asking for help maybe? Of course ‘their’ ability to communicate with the outside world has been limited to the myth of the ‘noble savage’ etc, rather than being allowed to have a voice to tell people about the way they have been ‘treated’.

    I note the same sort of censorship with the “editing” of human rights abuses before providing documents to legal representatives and ‘advocates’ in this State I live in. And the lack of a rule of law, where police simply ‘refer’ their misconduct (aka torture victims) for ‘treatment’ with no “reasonable grounds” means that their ‘outstanding’ human rights record has been fabricated with the defrauding of the community.

    ‘Suss laws’ with the chemical kosh and ECTs instead of the night stick? And they call that “added protections” and ‘advancement’?

  • Hi again James

    “There seems to be a really large amount of misconception about it and even more misplaced confidence.”

    They said the same about National Socialism in the 1940s lol.

    “It seems the legal system is another mechanism that can be paid for to do terrible things and in contrast has to be paid for to do the right thing as well and if you don’t have the money up front, you cannot afford justice or fair treatment.”

    39. No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we
    proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land
    40. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice

    This from the Magna Carta. Though I must note that the people that write documents such as this or your Constitution tend to be EXCEPTIONAL people, and not those who stand by and watch the ‘showers’ in operation (or people enslaved), or who hear of such deeds and ensure the matters are ‘buried’.

    “In your situation, those with control, motive and means could fairly easy torture and control you with no repercussions, I don’t really see my situation as being fundamentally much different, I just wasn’t trying to be controlled, I was just a bystander in the way of profits, and once they profited from my harm(the definition of fraud in the US) I had no recourse for justice or compensation.”

    I don’t know that my community (not the State where I live which is gradually regressing from a place where they police with consent, to policing with terrorism) would easily accept what was done. They just plain don’t have the intellectual capacity to see it, and those that do ensure that nothing is done as a result of their negligence. A brief look at the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse explains a lot, where the systematic raping of children was seen by the ‘authorities’ as being a “character flaw” (and thus dealt with ‘in house’ by moving the perpetrators around) and not a matter for criminal law. Much the same is being done with people such as Dr Selwyn Leeks.

    I know that my faith doesn’t allow me to see that there will be no repercussions for these people. They are being tested and may be of the delusional belief that they have ‘got away with it’ or that they are so powerful they can simply ignore the law (our current Minister for Health so delusional that he simply creates his own realities despite being provided with proof that he is uttering with fraud. But to be fair in such an environment who is going to tell him otherwise? Given he has refused to answer my question regarding the “editing” of legal narratives before the provision of documents to lawyers. Imagine changing the legal narrative of someone who had accessed the Voluntary Assisted Dying legislation to ensure that a ‘minor error’ (you killed the wrong guy. Woops) in procedure was concealed from legal rep.?) But yes, there was a time when the National Socialists had in the sun, and things were going really well, just like a Hawaiian holiday.

    I note that yesterday the government introduced Bills to Parliament to (a) stop people having ‘offensive’ material on their vehicles (eg no slogans that do not fit with the Party line), and (b) stop cruelty to animals by ending ‘puppy farms’. Imagine that the crime of abusing an animal had a penalty double what was listed for the abuse of a ‘mental patient’ (and there have actually been prosecutions for abusing animals, whereas…… mental patients not so lucky to have ‘advocates’ who don’t throw them under the bus for the State). Another match when we examine the laws passed by the National Socialist’s, who actually banned round fish bowls because it was cruel to not allow the fish a corner to hide in when it was anxious. Imagine this is the same people who passed the “life unfit for living’ Bill and saw it as being humane?

    Though I must also note it will quite possibly be illegal for me to make these comments in the near future (due to laws being passed not allowing such criticism of our illustrious leaders who are more popular than Bashar al Assad, but didn’t cheat in the elections. We have a one Party system with only 5 ‘opposition members’ [3 Greens, 2 ‘Republicans’] in the Lower House).

    “I recently cited the UN definition of torture when i wrote to several parties about the Court ordered ECT of Charles Helmer.”

    I wrote to my local Member and asked that they arrange to tear the Convention against the use of Torture up on the steps of Parliament for the media to report. At least that way the public would be aware of where they stand on the matter. All this finding ways of concealing acts of torture as ‘medicine’ is stupid really. They know we now have a police State and there can be no opposition to them, so why waste the time hiding it?

    2016 the Police handed over responsibility for ‘domestic violence’ and ‘drug abuse and addictions’ over to ‘Mental Health Services’. These once ‘exclusions’ taken out of the Mental Health Act to enable this to occur (I feel sure that political beliefs have also been quietly overlooked and wouldn’t want to be a Scientologist in my State, or someone who dares to speak out against the ‘treatments’ being offered as ‘medicine’).

    The ‘crisis’ which has been caused by mismanagement and corruption in our health system now being ‘blamed’ on ‘mental patients’ blocking up the Emergency Depts (good use of stigma by our Premier despite that lack of any evidence, and in fact his claim being contradicted by the facts).

    Point being you want your ‘streets’ cleaned up, best it is someone other than the Police that do it. As my situation showed, they make great Uber drivers for mental health, but it is others who tend to have the stomach for what needs to be done.

    I hope God has mercy on the poor souls who are going to be caught up in what is about to occur.

    “I will gladly keep you informed, I am still gathering my thoughts and the details of how it plays out but I plan on allowing our community to be able to learn everything they can from my efforts.”

    Wonderful, but don’t forget how dangerous this can actually be. “Trust in haste, regret at leisure”, “Suspicion breeds confidence”, and “Don’t suspect a friend, REPORT THEM” lol.

    I note that Police have been given a place on the Board of our primary ‘critical psychiatry’ organisation. That ought to ensure that any Police ‘misconduct’ is known about before it makes the papers. With no copy of the Criminal Code in our Police stations, and the ability to “edit” legal narratives by retrieving documents and threatening witnesses and their families…… And lets be honest, where are they going to go with their complaints anyway? MiA?

  • Hi ang,
    “In Australia now, all you need is the government software, follow their directions only.”

    Who needs vaccines when you have the COVID Safe app lol. My antibodies are being produced by my iPhone.

    “I mean they spend a fortune on study, they get paid heaps for drug trials, they are told they have to vaccinate babies to death, by the government health ministers (who have no medical training, but do own pharma shares). First do no harm?”

    Well, as with the “editing” being allowed by the State government with regards the human rights abuses being concealed as ‘medicine’ (and I note not being spoken about by many of these so called ‘professionals’, though I do understand how effective the threats and intimidation can be), this “First do no harm” actually reads “First do no harm to your bottom line”, but for the sake of keeping it simple for the plebs they have shortened it.

    “No doctors are puppets, they dont want to lose their medical licence, there charade as healers is worth more money to them”

    True, worth much more. But to be fair it has been the people laying down the laws who have enabled the situation to get to what it is. For example change the Mental Health Act to enable Shock Docs to start belting away at teenagers heads with electricity and no liability, call the changes “added protections” and repeat the mantra to the mushrooms who vote for them, and you will have Shock Docs flooding into your State from everywhere. Because most places are doing away with this barbaric practice, and would be reluctant to allow children to be exposed to such risks, except where there is a few bucks to be syphoned off from the Medicare system.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnjh-zp6pP4

    Why do I get this image of Patrick McGorry walking into the Royal College of Psychiatrists Annual General to do the Keynote to this tune?

    “I said High, …… I said HIGH VOLTAGE……”

  • I really have to laugh about the person who “provides expert legal advice to the Minister in matters of Mental Health Law” the Chief Psychiatrist

    Consider, if I were a Community Nurse I have the power to have ANYONE I like taken to a hospital and force drugged should they show any signs of anxiety (a ‘chemical restraint’ with “No National Standard”). So how is this possible?

    Okay, first I arrange to have the ‘target’ incapacitated by arranging to have them ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug. Once they collapse I can then call the Police and tell them that I need assistance with my “Outpatient” (they’re not really anyone’s “patient” I just want the police to think they are). Police will then raise the target from their slumber in a fairly confused state, and immediately hand my “Outpatient” over to me to do a ‘pencil fuking’ (I think was the term you used). There are of course laws against this type of conduct but they have never been enforced due to Police not having a copy of the Criminal Code.

    So now I have the person in my custody, drugged without their knowledge, I can hand them over to Police on a fraudulent Transport Order (keep em in the dark about the “Outpatient” thing) and they can then subject the citizen to an interrogation whilst they are drugged without their knowledge. Once they are done torturing the victim (with a good faith defense because my acquiescence in not telling them that the person actually has human rights [ie not an “outpatient” but a real life person] Police can then drop their ‘referred person’ (Penn and Teller would be impressed at the sleight of hand there) to the hospital to be ‘chemically restrained’ before being examined by a psychiatrist who is basically a rubber stamp due to the person laying on the floor naked and dribbling from the mouth.

    Now what I know as a Community Nurse is that what I have just done is a little ‘unethical’, but the great news is that the person providing the community with ‘protections’ of the law, doesn’t even know that anything I have done is unlawful. Or at least he doesn’t once the documents showing that this is what was done have been “edited”.

    See to me, what I have done is conspire to stupefy and commit an indictable offense, namely kidnaping and torture (the “acute stress reaction,” forced into interrogations to ‘verbal’ and ‘spiking’). I have procured the Police to apprehend a person not suffering from a mental illness as defined by the mental Health Act, penalty 3 years prison (which the Police actually have the documented PROOF of, ie the phone call asking for their assistance), and then conspired to pervert the course of justice over the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs with which the torture was enabled.

    Well, this is a brief list of some of the offenses that are easily identified, but which can not be prosecuted because it’s just so much easier to “edit” the reality.

    So in the end, the Community Nurse knows more about the law that the Chief Psychiatrist who is defending ‘our’ rights as humans to not be tortured and kidnapped by exploiting the Mental Health Act. I say he knows more because I have a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist saying that he can’t see a problem with anything I have described above….. well as long as the police retrieved the documents I had proving what I am suggesting, and we can then run with the “edited” narrative of “Outpatient” of ten years was ‘medicated’ with his “Regular Medications” (the fraudulent prescription for drugs I have never taken willingly) and became a violent psychotic drug abusing wife beater for 7 hours, until a psychiatrist realised that maybe he was just having a bad day as a result of being jumped in his bed and dragged off to a mental asylum in front of his mother and father in law. That’ll teach me to have “Potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships” and to allow my mind to be read when the Community Nurse travelled back through time and space to make his ‘observations’. And the Chief Psychiatrist, the leading legal expert in the State simply doesn’t have a question to ask about any of this, not one (well, he must have asked what the hospital had done about this matter and was informed that police had been procurred to retrieve the documents I had, “edited” ones had been provided to the Law Centre, and they had ‘fuking destroyed’ me and my family. So he was free to put the boots in further to someone he KNEW was a victim of torture. Nice fella huh? Nothing like kicking the teeth in of someone who has been laid out by someone else. I should be thankful, at least they are very expensive boots, leather, Italian, noice). His response to the Law Centre….. I dunno, they didn’t write it down (and what they did has been “edited” so you don’t get to see it).

    So my faith in the legal profession here at least is one of skepticism, and in fact I think they are actively engaging in concealing human rights abuses by conspiring with State authorities to throw those who have been tortured under the bus (for an increase in State funding of course) and spreading slander and fraud further should the victims seek alternate legal representation.

  • Heya James,

    It was so cold here last week I actually saw a lawyer with his hands in his OWN Pockets.

    I have been reading your comments and appreciate them very much, particularly the comment above about ethics.

    I wonder sometimes if we don’t recognise that what we have is a legal system that is being manipulated to pervert the course of justice. The two are very separate. Lawyers work the system, the perversion happens as a consequence. Knowing what to ‘plant’ on a victim for police, and when to do it crucial in procuring the services of Police in offending. And made so much easier when the ‘target’ can be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and a ‘doctor’ who they never met will sign a fraudulent prescription making them their “Regular Medications” post hoc to conceal the acts of torture. Amazing what can be achieved in such an environment, and I no longer ask questions about why our system is in crisis.

    My example is that the forged documents produced in my instance (the ‘verballed’ Form 1) are usually uttered with by State authorities as a means to ensure that public sector misconduct is concealed. So I have a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist using what is a known fraudulent Form as a defense of the Community Nurse who forged it.

    The major problem in this is that they failed to recognoise that the Form was forged as a direct result of an act of torture (ie they ‘spiked’ me with date rape drugs and then basically put a gun to my head to force me to ‘confess’)

    Article 15 (Convention against Torture)

    Each State Party shall ensure that any statement which is established to have been made as a result of torture shall not be invoked as evidence in any proceedings, except against a person accused of torture as evidence that the statement was made.

    So now they find themselves in breach of this Article of the Convention, using a KNOWN forged statutory declaration, which was produced as a direct result of a KNOWN act of torture. The Minister now using the fraud produced by torture to defend the acts of torture, and claim it was ‘referral’ and ‘assessment’. The ONLY document that could make that true being the Form 1, and they investigated that Form and needed to defraud my lawyers to ensure it could NOT be tested (and then realise how it was obtained, ie as a result of torture).

    Not that it matters. They are ‘unintentionally negatively outcoming’ anyone who dares question their arguments from authority, and using their own legal representatives to utter with the fraud produced by the State. They call this criminal fraud “editing” (despite legislation to ensure that human rights are protected by allowing legal reps. to examine unredacted documents. Putting into writing a request for them to conspire with the state to pervert the course of justice a step too far, so they “edit”, and then allow others to utter on their behalf)

    “Political language… is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” George Orwell.

    “Unintended negative outcomes” lol Seemed a funny thing to call snapping peoples necks in a place they call a hospital. Josef Hartinger’s report is forthcoming.

    Keep us informed please.

    Many thanks

  • I will once again make a public appeal for Consular assistance from the British government (or any other government which would accept an appeal from a person who has been tortured and then had the Articles of the Convention repeatedly breached to conceal acts of State sanctioned torture) as a result of years of refoulment by the Australian government which is a Nation with a history of “gross flagrant and repeated human rights violations” (the large numbers of unaccounted Black deaths in Custody speaks to this ‘history’)

    The ability to deny me my right to effective legal representation and retrieve my own property to leave this place a testament to the lengths these abusers will go, and use their positions of power to silence their victims.

    Article 3

    1. No State Party shall expel, return (“refouler”) or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture.

    2. For the purpose of determining whether there are such grounds, the competent authorities shall take into account all relevant considerations including, where applicable, the existence in the State concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights.

    Was it not the United Nations that made a statement pointing out that Australia’s Mental Health Laws ARE a violation of human rights? And that the ‘treatments’ MAY constitute torture? How much more mass can one get when the whole country is being subjected to such laws and violations? And let me say that the documents were not “edited” because they have not done anything wrong. this was done to conceal their human rights violations and acts of State sanctioned torture.

    Though I understand if the British government is prepared to ignore such requests because of these abusers hiding behind the authority of the Crown. Perhaps another Nation iis prepared to take what is left of a good man now they have ‘fuking destroyed’ him for speaking the truth and exposing their crimes. And with the State having such a rock solid defense of “they wouldn’t do that” then what need is there for documented proof of what I am saying. Police simply denying the ability to even make a complaint (refuse to take the proof and return the complaint as “insufficient evidence”) while others sort the problem out with an ‘unintended negative outcome’ in the Emergency Dept.

    I would have thought that British subjects being given the ‘Jamal Kashoggi treatment’ by people acting as Officers of the Crown might have been able to have a right of appeal to the Crown. (Acts 16:37) I was NOT an “outpatient” of this hospital and was tortured to obtain the ability to put words in my mouth and conceal their criminal conduct. And I was ‘fuking destroyed’ by the State for daring to complain about their conduct.

  • Consider.
    I wrote to the Attorney General and the current Minister for Health regarding this practice of “editing” legal narratives to conceal human rights violations and defraud legal representatives. This surely can not be described as “editing” to defend what is clearly criminal fraud? Unless of course Police provide material support to the criminals by referring the complainant for ‘treatment’ which I know for a fact they do. How simple is the concealment of Public Sector misconduct with mental health services as a weapon?

    The response I received was that the Minster was “sorry” that I was still upset about my ‘referral’ and ‘assessment’. Okay, enough of the slanderous hate speech and failure to address a reasonable question but (reason having been removed from the law by the current Chief Psychiatrist who prefers human rights violating ‘suss laws’ for mental health ‘assessments’. Rather than the laws he is charged with protecting with the “Criteria” required to be met and a burden of “reasonable grounds” placed on mental health workers who wish to snatch persons from their homes by lying to police regarding their status as “outpatients”. Care to examine his letter?) ……….

    The point being for his claim to be valid that I was ‘referred’ and ‘assessed’ would require a reliance on a document which is KNOWN to have been produced via the corrupt practice of ‘verballing’ AND as a direct result of a known act of torture (the ‘spiking’ and lie to police regarding me being an “outpatient” to have them cause an acute stress reaction and thus force me into an interrogation to allow words to be put into my mouth by the Community Nurse. I wonder how our Politicians might feel about being asked a few questions after being ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug and having a gun put to their heads demanding answers? It’s okay, that bit can be “edited” out at a later time should a need arise, which leaves me wondering about the “editing” of legal narratives where our new “Voluntary Assisted Dying” laws are concerned. Can breaches of the law there be “edited” too?).

    What else could they possibly have than this known fraudulent Form 1 statutory declaration which was produced from the interrogation whilst I was stupefied without my knowledge to make such a claim?

    And thus the Minister for Health is in breach of the Convention against the use of Torture by using this document with which to defend his falsehood that I was lawfully ‘referred’ and ‘assessed’. This is simply NOT the case, and they were aware of this FACT when they sent the fraudulent set of documents to the Law Centre. (removed the ‘spiking’ and the lack of a referral to conceal the lie to police that I was their “Outpatient”)

    Article 15

    Each State Party shall ensure that any statement which is established to have been made as a result of torture shall not be invoked as evidence in any proceedings, except against a person accused of torture as evidence that the statement was made.

    The Minister is using a statement which is known to have been made as a result of me being tortured (and as a result of fraud), and cares not one iota about the way in which the legal narrative was “edited’ to conceal that act of torture and lie to police regarding my status to have them force me into an interrogation so he could produce a ‘verballed’ Form 1 minus any valid referral source (ie I was NOT a “patient” as defined by the Mental Health Act, though telling Police that I was his “outpatient” and then requesting a ‘referral’ from them after he had ‘verballed’ me seems to be the method of obtaining arbitrary detentions by mental health services. Quite clever having Police brutalise someone who is unaware the Police think they are a ‘mental patient’. I’m sure many here understand the significance of the slander associated with the term ‘mental patient’).

    So on what grounds is the Minter basing his claim that I was ‘referred’ and ‘assessed’, rather than ‘tortured’ and ‘kidnapped’?

    Amazing what can be achieved when you care nought about the Convention against the use of Torture huh? Using the results of torture to defend the acts of torture is a DIRECT BREACH of the Convention.

    More than happy to debate the validity of the Form 1 and the reasons it was obtained via an act of torture with anyone. It appears that it is only those with something to hide that prefer to simply utter with the fraud and maintain a lie with an argument from authority. And a few ‘unintended negative outcomes’ rather than rely on the facts as established by a “Formal Investigation”, threats and intimidation from Police of witnesses, and some “editing” of realities for legal representatives seems to be the order of the day.

  • I can’t say I know exactly what was discussed between the Chief Psychiatrist and the Operations Manager, but I do know that they had a conversation before he responded with a rather bizarre letter.

    The Operations Manager was the person who did the Formal Investigation and was thus aware of the torture and arbitrary detention, otherwise she wouldn’t have known how to conceal it with the fraud sent to the Law Centre. Now why she would not explain to the Chief Psychiatrist how she had ‘resolved’ the little problems she was faced with? Ie I have removed the evidence of the torture and false statutory declaration, and you are now free to utter with the fraud would be one way of describing the conversation. Police have retrieved the documents showing the ‘spiking’ so there is now no probable cause for them to investigate, and in fact they are going to refer or arrest the victim should he try and make a complaint to police. So he will be back on our hands for complaining about being tortured and kidnapped, and can then be ‘unintentionally negatively outcomed’.

    Mind you no one seems to want to even look at the documents I have, and the letter of response by the Chief Psychiatrist was read by the Council of Official Visitors who said they would take the matter up with him. They then returned my email and ‘unread’ the letter. So much for these ‘courageous’ ‘advocates’ for the mentally ill.

    I’m kind of guessing that the ‘outcomes’ that came about as a result of this criminal negligence may have something to do with the poor cover up of a poor cover up. No need for accountability when you have mental health services, and ‘advocates’ who run from the Jack Boots.

    I mean I get it that the Police look kind of stupid being stooged to do a torture and kidnap for organised criminals operating from a Private Clinic. And well, if you’ve got the stomach for it, there are ways to have the matter resolved in ‘doctors’ favour.

    I also had no idea that an FOI Officer was to provide information to organised criminals as to what they need to do to conceal their criminal offending but ……. ask my wife about that one. “you’ll need to bring him under the provisions of the Mental Health Act and then we can ‘treat’ him for speaking the truth, until he speaks a truth we prefer” And those that die in the process can be used to claim there is a need for more money and more power to snatch citizens from their beds and torture them till they see that they need to be ‘helped’. I mean consider that the Chief Psychiatrist rewrote the Mental Health Act removing “reasonable grounds” required for Involuntary admission and forced treatment? How much more power do they need? A Community Nurse need only ‘suspect’ (called suss laws in Nations like this one that has a history of gross and flagrant human rights violations)

    Not unlike a Magistrate knowing that a conviction is going to be obtained as a result of Police torture, ensuring that the torture goes unnoticed rather than throwing the case out of court and holding the torturers to account. Can’t ask questions of law in my state, that’s considered a mental illness. The law now ‘private property’ in Australia.

    Anyone here know a good journalist who might want to look at the proof I have? Not when police are threatening families and making mental health referrals of witnesses I guess.

  • I note Bananas that the letter of response from our Chief Psychiatrist uses the Form 1 produced by the Community Nurse as his defense for my incarceration.

    “The reasons listed on the Form 1 are considered to be reasonable grounds at the time of referral”

    Two points should be noted about this;

    (1) the documents was known to be fraudulent as a result of the “Formal Investigation” by the hospital concerned, which resulted in the need for “edited” documents to be provided to my legal representatives. It was what is known as a ‘verbal’ and to be valid would require the Community Nurse to have the ability to travel through time and space and be capable of reading minds.

    The only way they could ‘validate’ this document was to remove the information that was available to the Community Nurse in his associated notes (ie remove the context). So the ‘spiking’ with benzos removed, and the lie to police about me being his “Outpatient” needed to be concealed. Such methods of having citizens snatched from their beds by telling Police that someone is an “outpatient” to have them brutalise them into ‘confessions’ obviously something best kept out of the public arena.

    (2) the document was produced as a result of an act of known torture by the Community Nurse.

    Article 15 (of the Convention against the use of Torture)

    Each State Party shall ensure that any statement which is established to have been made as a result of torture shall not be invoked as evidence in any proceedings, except against a person accused of torture as evidence that the statement was made.

    And yet here is our Chief Psychiatrist using the results of an act of torture as a defense against those acts of torture. Though to be fair, he was also of the belief that the fraudulent documents that had been provided to my legal representatives had been accepted, and that therefore he was free to utter with the ‘confession’ extracted using those acts of torture. Gee how clever is that? The person who is supposed to be providing you protection from being tortured, is working with the torturers to ensure they are not held to account, and using the result of torture as his defense of the conduct.

  • Hi Bananas,

    I’m glad you can see it. The ‘authorities’ did of course have to act once these people who were conspiring were exposed. But I have no doubt that (a) they were doing this long before I came along and ‘slipped through the net’, and (b) a lot of people were harmed AFTER I came along and ‘slipped through the net’. So their criminal negligence that resulted in harm may determine how they respond to these crimes. Ie they have motive (and means ie Police threatening peoples families) to cover up.

    And they will no doubt be left to gain employment in other areas where they can exploit the trust the community puts in them. Accountability is at about the same levels as was applied to Priests who were raping children for 30 plus years, they get moved somewhere else to set up shop.

    I find it almost amusing the explanations I have received for the negligence of lawyers. For example, I had no idea that when I was told that the ‘spiking’ with a date rape drug had been authorised by my doctor that they were not allowed to tell me who my doctor was. Which is a shame because what I KNOW to be true is that (a) I had no doctor, and (b) the Senior Medical Officer who signed a fraudulent prescription for the ‘spiking’ only did so hours AFTER I had been ‘spiked’ and interrogated by police. So the prescription was only written to conceal the acts of torture by the Community Nurse and Police. And it’s not like they are going to find ‘probable cause’ when they are torturing people right? In fact a Senior Sargent tells me they don’t even have a copy of the Criminal Code, and a Superintendent says that if a complainant doesn’t answer an email they didn’t receive within two weeks, then matters such as kidnapping and torture will not proceed any further. (Got this is writing if anyone doesn’t believe me). Refuse to accept the evidence/proof, and then ensure nothing is done as a result. And who are you going to complaint to? Especially when even the Attorney General can not tell you where a complaint should be made. I feel sure they have ‘insurance’.

    But it is clever, for the State to use the victims own legal representatives and the Chief Psychiatrist to utter with the fraud they distribute as “editing”. And then deny access to effective legal representation by ‘flagging’ the victim and then slandering them behind their backs. Not the sort of conduct one would expect from the legal fraternity but ….. that’s precisely why it is so effective. Because “They wouldn’t do that”. And not a soul, even these so called ‘advocates’ who will even bother to check.

    And now they can say, as a direct result of the criminal negligence of my own Union lawyer, that the time to bring action against these people has passed. So the victim suffers for the negligence of the lawyer I approached well before the time had passed. In fact I can even demonstrate her ‘stalling methods’, achieved with lies. I have no doubt that such criminal negligence is being rewarded.

    Take care and consider what I am saying carefully. I am not the only victim of these criminals no doubt. Though I do believe that many of their victims do not live to tell the tale.

  • Bananas,
    I realised later that I have been looking at this issue of HIPPA from a very different perspective than yourself.

    If the State were abiding by the laws, then they may find themselves being subject to lawsuits that would discourage acts of torture and abuse. The victims (or their legal representatives) being allowed access to their medical records and then being able to bring action for wrongdoing the ideal situation. Public officers making reports to the watchdog authorities (under mandatory reporting laws) to remove abusers rather than snuffing the victims of their misconduct and relying on the authorities to cover up should anyone notice (ie police not having a copy of the criminal code when a victim of State sanctioned torture has the proof).

    What is being done in my State is that the documents that SHOULD be made available to identify abuses and human rights violations, are instead being used as a mean to distribute slander and defame the victims with their own medical records. Make any complaint and they will have the lawyers who have been provided with the fraud and slander distribute that fraud even further.

    In fact, I have a letter here from our Chief Psychiatrist doing precisely this, taking what was known to be a fraudulent document used to procure the apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a mental illness, and using it to defend the actions of the Community Nurse who tortured me. Can’t say he didn’t know, it was just that he made the assumption that the fraud could not be exposed because police had been procured to retrieve the documents that would allow that exposure.

    It’s a clever use of the laws designed to protect the community, to actually turn them around and use them to fuking destroy victims of State sanctioned torture really. I mean who would believe that the Operations Manager would have the balls to send fraudulent documents to the Law Centre, never mind that the Chief Psychiatrist would then utter with that same fraud to ensure that human rights abuses and ‘outcomings’ that have been interrupted in the ED are concealed.

    And the legal fraternity so accepting of the rock solid defense of “they wouldn’t do that”.

    Anyone care to check yet?

    You write;
    “Use of HIPPA, denying the right to view the medical record, hides the crime.”

    They are not denying the right to view documents, but using the system to distribute and utter with fraud. And they are using the victims own lawyers to aid in the commission of these offences.

    It’s particularly nasty given that this is poisoning the relationship one should have with ones legal representative. Ie you should be able to trust them. Nothing that the National Socialists didn’t use though, spread mistrust among the ‘enemy’ and ensure that they can not even trust each other. That’s mental health services at their best, fuking destroying families with their poisonous conspiring.

    Consider what I am saying carefully please. even if they do release the documents, they can be “edited” (which would be called criminal fraud if police could find their copy of the criminal code but …….) so your chances of success are zero.

    They remove the crimes from the legal narrative, and leave what looks like the possibility of a civil action to lure the unsuspecting in and reward the parasite ‘legal representatives’ who will strip you of the shirt on your back.

    That’s so much more effective than simply not releasing the documents. Who said the Roman colosseum was dead, were still feeding ‘Christians” to the ‘Lions’. And not a soul will provide any assistance other than to keep throwing you under a bus. Though I’m sure they justify it in their own minds with their “they wouldn’t do that’s” and not bothering to check.

    well, some people with a duty did check, taking the uttering to the Chief Psychiatrist and then returning my email after they ‘unread’ it. Put well and truly in their place they were. ‘Advocates’? I think not. Quislings I think is the correct term.

  • Protection from personal liability
    (1) An action in tort does not lie against a person for an act done in good faith and without negligence in the performance or purported performance of a function under this Act.
    ————-

    (4) This section does not relieve the Crown from any liability that it might have for an act done by a person against whom this section provides that an action does not lie.

    (5) In this section references to an act done include an omission.

    The recent death of a 7 year old child in my State as a direct result of negligence should be quite revealing. I am yet to hear of the “Standard of Care” defense being put forward, only our Minister for Health going to the home of the parents, and visiting the hospital in the middle of the night. (I find myself wondering if the Operations Manager might be telling them that they will be ‘fuking destroyed’ if they keep complaining about the excellent service their family received from the hospital, and the documents relating to the childs death being “edited” before being ‘leaked’ to the media. Being able to deny access to legal representation a distinct advantage for the State)

    As you say Jan Carol the problem with proving psych damage is particularly difficult. And in my case, the ‘attorneys’ were doing what they were told to do by the State, the people providing them with funding to act as an ‘early warning system’ regarding human rights abuses, and when there was a need to “edit” realities and ensure that victims of State sanctioned torture were ‘outcomed’ before anyone noticed the ‘error’ lol

    I think in Australia the case of Corrina Horvath may be of interest, particularly where acts of criminal negligence by public hospitals are concerned. Though I note from experience, the hospitals “editing” involves removing the proof of crimes, providing the fraud to legal representatives to be uttered with to other attorneys, and then ensuring that civil action for tort is not possible. Not if the attorney values their families safety that is. And being allowed to empty their ‘clients’ bank account before throwing them under a bus due reward for such ‘collusion’ with the authorities. (worked for Nicola Gobbo so well, and for others who are yet to have been named in a Royal Commission, which is unlikely to happen in our lifetimes)

    Using the methods they are ensures that it leaves Hollys success rate of 98% for dead. The dead tell no tales. Literally. And with police claiming “insufficient evidence” and telling me that “it might be best I don’t know about that” (referring to the ‘alternative arrangements’ that were made to conceal the acts of torture) then their excellent human rights record is understandable. With no effective legal mechanism (the Convention against the use of Torture Articles simply ignored by the Authorities as a joke. As the witnesses who have been threatened by Police) for victims of torture to use, and an Attorney General who doesn’t accept complaints or even know where they should be made, what chance have citizens got? And it does explain why this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=3s

    and this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcoaLGy-gwY

    is considered “Standard of Care”

    Always a Shock and Horror from the Ministers concerned. Though I get the feeling they are more shocked as to how one slipped through their net that ensures these sorts of matters never see the light of day rather than being offended by the acts which they should ‘have the stomach for’ when they take the job. I mean come on, when you have someones lawyer providing you with information that allows you to “edit” your legal narrative before providing it to them, surely none should even slip through the net? And the increase in funding to the Law Centre as a result? Paid for from the tax of the victims, nice, very nice.

  • Yes Bananas,

    “many countries do have laws against the workers’ bad acts.”

    “Procuring apprehension or detention of person not suffering from mental illness or impairment
    Any person who, by the production of a false certificate or other document, knowingly and wilfully, procures any person, not suffering from mental illness (as defined in the Mental Health Act 2014 section 4) or mental impairment, to be apprehended or detained, pursuant to that Act or any law relating to mental impairment, upon insufficient or unreasonable grounds, is guilty of a crime and is liable to imprisonment for 3 years.”

    Problem being that a Community Nurse calls Police and lies to them that a citizen is his “Outpatient” (the very reason for the offense being listed in the Criminal Code). The conversation recorded and documented (ie Job Number from Police provided). The offense is known to have occurred, but …….. when police are prepared to commit further offenses to pervert the course of justice and refusing to perform their duty, then what good are these laws?

    In fact, the only way the Community Nurse could fabricate the “reasonable grounds” was through an act of torture (ie ‘spike’ with benzos and create “acute stress reaction” via the use of police brutality). With his fraudulent Forms fabricated, the State is now free to torture further and the authorities will utter with that fraud to obstruct and pervert the course of justice.

    Once he has ‘verballed’ the Forms, he can then later claim that it was police who requested HIM to do an ‘assessment’ of the victim of his torture (ie flip the script), and it enables arbitrary detentions and torture to both Police AND Mental Health Services. And I imagine from my experience, most of the victims end up dead.

    Of course the problem in my situation was that police had subjected me to an act of torture as a result of the LIE told by the Community Nurse (so there is a good faith defense unless…….. they knew I had been ‘spiked’, and then well, their negligence and criminality arising from that becomes obvious), and the concealment of that trumps any offending committed by mental health services. In fact, police more than happy to provide material assistance and advice on how to ensure that the ‘unintended negative outcomings’ that are occurring from which they benefit are NOT investigated or, more importantly, REPORTED to the Public Sector watchdog.

    The mandatory reporting an issue should their cover ups ever be exposed (thus a need for further cover ups by the people who claim to be the protection from such abuses). Because why would you bother reporting the misconduct if the documents have been “edited”, the witnesses silenced, and the victim of State sanctioned torture ‘outcomed’? Sure it would be an act of misconduct in and of itself but who would dare do anything about it? I mean someone might lose their job, the sin being caught in the act, and not the offending.

    Problem with cover ups is as you suggest that it allows the misdeed to remain unknown to the ‘General Public’ (the State concealing these vile deeds under the false claim that its not in the public interest to know that they are using hospitals and associated laws to torture, maim and ‘outcome’ anyone who speaks truths they do not prefer). And it enables these people to threaten families and ‘outcome’ others while the public lives with the defense of “they wouldn’t do that”. I don’t know how to say that in German, but feel sure a lot of people uttered those words for some time during the war years.

    Imagine if the public were aware of this “editing” practice, and the fact that they do not have the right to confidentiality with lawyers, doctors, priests, or even their own partners?

    Still, I think a wise man once exposed the practice of spying on people to entrap them at every turn, whilst ensuring that ones own vile deeds went unnoticed. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”. I think they are leading one another astray with their criminal conspiracies and exploitation of their positions of power.

  • “They are hiding criminal activity “for the patient’s own good”. Who decides this? It is a setup protecting the malicious activity of unethical workers.”

    I came to the conclusion that if they are ‘fuking destroying’ complainants (of human rights abuses) with ‘hot shots’ in the Emergency Dept, then this concealment of criminal conduct and human rights abuses may be “in the interest of the ‘patient'”. As Pte Joker said in Full Metal Jacket, “the dead know only one thing, it is better to be alive”. It also explains the lack of a ‘mechanism’ for making a complaint regarding acts of State sanctioned torture, when the victims do not survive the complaint process, due to ‘unintended negative outcomes’. A violation of the Convention, but from my personal observations they do not care one iota about this agreement they have ratified with the United nations, and are ‘fuking destroying’ anyone with a legitimate complaint before it is allowed to see the light of day.

    “Well, that credibility ends with hard copy evidence and recordings. Recording must be made according to law. We must do this by the book.”

    True, I note that when the child raping priests were being enabled, even they needed to ensure that witnesses were silenced, though their credibility was no doubt being damaged in the process. I note that the witnesses who have been threatened have no doubt had quiet conversations with others. On the surface Police and others may be of the belief that the matters are now dead in the water, but ……. we talk among ourselves, and know who they really are.

    Even the recordings are of little use when police can simply state they do not have a copy of the Criminal Code, and simply refuse to take any documented proof of the offending (an offense in and of itself). I have much more than they have been provided, and in fact I have been told by Police that in some instances “it might be better they don’t know about that” (ie doctors ‘outcoming’ citizens who the State has tortured), and they then ensure they DONT take the documented proof and rerurn the complaint as having “insufficient evidence” while doctor sorts it out on the E.D.

    Personally I don’t really have a problem with this, and I do have the stomach for it. I just find it strange that it is being done to someone who did nothing more than disagree with a psychologist. Maybe if I were a serious villain or ????? I don’t really agree with the death penalty but certainly wouldn’t enable it because someone doesn’t like what your saying because it’s true.

    “It can lawfully hide its deeds.”

    On this one we disagree. “It” is a reification of a group of people acting together who claim to be health care professionals. And the law does not allow them under any circumstances to hide their criminal conduct. This was an argument presented by National Socialists at the Nuremburg Trial, that they could lawfully deal with their ‘internal problems’ as they wished.

    I disagree with such assertions vehemently. Whilst the State may wish to enable ‘unintentional negative outcomes’ and disassociate themselves with unconstitutional laws passed for specific purposes, their time will come.

    I look at the methods used in my State which come straight from the playbook of the National Socialists and the problems they experienced at Dachau with Josef Hartinger. Sure they hid his report and the killings started again fairly quickly as a result of the enabling by Hitler of Himmler and his SS. We see a similar pattern where I live in the Voluntary Assisted Dying legislation allowing the ‘unintended negative outcomes’ to not be linked via ‘joint enterprise’ laws to our Legislators. their negligence a problem should someone such as Dr Lancee ever get the police to perform the duty they have been charged with.

    I am reminded of our Chief Psychiatrists written assertion that he has the power to amend the Mental Health Act without parliamentary approval (and remove the human rights protections afforded the community), and the Enabling Act passed by the National Socialists which allowed the precise same type of behaviour (ie No need for laws, just do it and we will silence any complaints). Of course the Emperor is wrong, he has no such power, but are YOU going to question his delusional belief? I found myself having to explain what a burden of proof is to someone whose duty is to “provide expert legal advice to the Minister” AND the Minister herself. One would expect such people to understand the meaning and protection afforded by the words “suspect on REASONABLE GROUNDS”, and yet, they prefer the rewritten term of suspect on grounds we believe to be reasonable, thus removing the need for s. 26 Criteria from the law and enabling arbitrary detentions (terrible the things they are doing in China right?).

    A land that values a rule of law? Well, only when they can “edit” the truth before the rule of law is allowed to be applied. The law perverted can not result in any semblance of justice. Ask any good Nazi.

  • Just to clarify how it works here in Australia

    I make an application for my medical records under the Freedom of Information Act to the hospital concerned.

    The FOI Officer calls my wife and arranges a meeting with her. At that meeting my wife is threatened and told that she is to deny me access to “third party comments” (which can be done lawfully, though the FOI officer SHOULD inform the applicant of what they require to access these comments, a signed release from the person who provided the comments documented by the hospital. Oh sorry, did we not tell you that? [Duty under the FOI Act]) showing that I had been ‘spiked’ with benzos. My wife is also requested to obtain some form of documented proof that I am someones “patient” to enable them to conceal that what they are doing is actually conspiring to pervert the course of justice. Doesn’t matter if it is done post hoc as it allows conspiring to be concealed as ‘care’.

    This denial of access to “third party comments” is then used to remove the documented proof that the Community Nurse has called police and requested assistance with one of his “Outpatients” (a criminal offense). Thus some documents are provided to the “patient” in an agreement made with the “patients” ‘carer’. It makes them feel like they have rights and is good for their psychological health I am told. Also a great way to conceal human rights abuses.

    So what happens when legal representatives (experts in Mental Health Law) then make an application for documents under the Mental Health Act which allows them to see the unredacted documents on provision of a “confidentiality agreement”? Surely they would understand the significance of citizens having their status changed to “Outpatient” and then calling police and requesting assistance with a non compliant “patient” to force a citizen into an interrogation, and then asking Police to act as a “referral source” once the target has been brought under the provisions of the Mental Health Act with a fraudulent statutory declaration. Surely these same legal representatives would also understand the significance of a citizen being ‘spiked’ with benzos without their knowledge before being interrogated by a Community Nurse and Police, and then arranging a doctor to write a prescription for the ‘spiking’ hours after these acts of torture occurred?

    Well of course they would, and it wouldn’t be possible to provide them with the unredacted documents with these areas highlighted and ask them to keep this information from their client would it? I mean that would be putting your request for conspiring to pervert the course of justice to lawyers in writing. So they provide them with “edited” documents with the crimes removed and replaced with other documents making it look like the citizen had been a “patient” of the hospital for more than 10 years, and that the claim that they have been ‘spiked’ is nothing more than an paranoid delusion, you know “edited” documents.

    The legal representatives make a complaint to the Chief Psychiatrist who goes along with the “edited” version of reality (uttering) and makes the false claim t hat he “forms the impression that the documents were applied for and provided under the Freedom of Information Act” despite there being three documents stating otherwise in the letter of complaint to him (Oh sorry did we make another mistake?) and then does absolutely nothing to rectify the ‘error’. The lawyers are then provided with a ‘poison pen’ letter to hand to me and NOT read due to the ‘errors’ contained therein (allowing them plausible deniability should the matters be exposed when the target is snuffed), and then utter with the fraud they have been provided with should any other lawyer decide to provide me with any assistance.

    Of course it should have worked except that I still had the documents the hospital thought police had retrieved for them showing the ‘spiking’, but NOT the lie to Police by the Community Nurse to procure their services (but I note NOT a referral). It has become patently obvious that the hospital FOI Officer has made the false assumption that the benzos were mine, and that therefore the conspiracy to conceal this offense was nothing more than the sort of vicious psychological attack they do to ‘mental patients’ every day. As it became clear to her that this was not the case, not only did they need to continue to conceal the procuring of police for kidnapping, but they needed to retrieve the documents showing the ‘spiking’ as this now demonstrated acts of torture by both the Community Nurse AND Police, and then the fraudulent prescription written by the Senior Medical Officer at the hospital once I had been kidnapped and delivered to the Locked Ward.

    One telephone call and the SMO was provided with my medical records from the Private Clinic by the clinic psychologist who had conspired with my wife to stupefy and commit an indictable offense, ie have me kidnapped. He then writes a prescription for the drugs I was ‘spiked’ with to conceal the acts of torture used to complete the fraudulent statutory declaration by the Community Nurse, AND the interrogation whilst stupefied without knowledge by Police.

    Pretty clever really, and now it’s just a matter of silencing the complainant by ‘fuking destroying’ him and his family for daring to complain about the standard of their medical care. Easy when you can lie to police and have them provide material support to you in your criminal conduct. And particularly easy when they are aware that they have actually been ‘stooged’ into torturing a citizen by a Community Nurse who has lied and acquiesced his duty in regards the ‘spiking’ (see Article 1 of the Convention against the use of Torture).

    So much for the respect for the law and human rights by this Nation. They should have sent Jamal Kashoggi here for ‘treatment’ because not a chance anything would be done even if his fingers turned up in the sewer system. “Insufficient evidence” and witnesses prepared to say “it never happened” once police have issued threats to them.

    It’s actually quite a shock to ones psyche to collapse as a result of being ‘spiked’ and wake up to people in authority slandering you as being a violent psychotic drug abusing wife beater for doing nothing more than disagreeing with someone who happens to know a psychologist, and has knowledge of how to ‘work’ the system (having a husband who is a Shock Doc also helps should the victims complain to police, who will turn a blind eye to the ‘unintended negative outcomes’ that were occurring in the E.D. Pleased to announce they left the State the minute the documents they thought had been retrieved turned up in a Police Station. Unfortunate that Police have a knee jerk reaction to cover up rather than investigate matters. How many? …… double figures you say? That’s an awful lot of “editing” to be done.)

  • “Can someone tell me how something as destructive as the alliance between Big Pharma, psychiatry and state’s power to take your rights away has not yet destroyed itself with its own poison?”

    2 Thessolonians 2
    “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”

    “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie,”

    “For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.”

    Nothing more wicked that using the revelations for personal gain and profit. And it is certainly delusional that the inevitable Day of Judgement can be avoided. Ask Dr Mengele.

  • Know how easy it is to turn a human into less than an animal? Call them a “mental patient”.

    The penalty for harming an animal in my State is double what it is for abuse of a mental patient. And the laws relating to harming an animal have actually been used in the Courts, unlike the laws relating to abuse of mental patients which with the ability to “edit” legal narratives before examination by the victims lawyers, simply “never happened” (woman has her prosthetic legs removed and left in her own faeces for hours as ‘punishment’ is ‘care’ apparently). Even with the documented proof, police will return the complaint as having “insufficient evidence”, because they simply refuse to log the proof, and leave a ‘cold trail’ for anyone who follows the matter up. Innat right Superintendent?

    Emergency services solidarity I’ve heard this called. In a land with a rule of law it’s called corruption and misconduct.

  • “A complication of concern in the USA are statutes of liability. A harmed person is unable to file any actio0n while harmed. Time runs out. There are provisions for tolling the statute, but representation may be out of reach when the case had this factor.”

    My ‘legal representatives’ made application for the unredacted documents showing I was the victim of serious criminal misconduct by the Community Nurse (Procuring the apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a mental illness, penalty 3 years prison) and acts of torture (knowingly by the Community Nurse and it is unknown if the police were aware I had been ‘spiked’ as they already had been lied to and told I was a “patient” of this hospital so DID torture me, though it may have been as a result of the acquiescence of the Community Nurse).

    The legal representatives made complaint regarding the provision of documents in “edited” form, but were told that they had applied for the documents under FOI provision (what, another ‘error’? The application was made by a Q.C. and was done according to the book) and ….. some other clap trap fob by the Chief Psychiatrist (Basically he was aware of the fraud they had received, and wasn’t going to allow them access to my documents despite them having a RIGHT to examine them).

    It was three years and nine months after that I was finally provided with the unredacted documents that I had a right to within days of being tortured and kidnapped but …. the delays now man that these so called ‘advocates’ can turn me away because “it was so long ago”.

    Glad MOSSAD didn’t take that attitude about the likes of Dr Mengele. Though I do see my States problem of their deliberate negligence resulting in harm to others being THEIR responsibility. AFTER they checked my delusional claim that someone had tried to harm me in the Emergency Dept, and I can only assume found other ‘unintended negative outcomes’

    Once they have concealed for these people they can’t very well allow their neglect in that instance to surface with the next (300) victims. Ask the people at the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. Once in for a penny, they’re in for a pound.

    In my instance the uttering once the State thought that Police had retrieved the proof of the ‘spiking’ had been effective, and that they could then slander me with the paranoid delusional label to gaslight me to suicide would work, they could move on to their next victims. What a problem once they had played ‘lets pretend he was a “patient”‘ was exposed, and the conspiring to pervert the course of justice between the ‘human rights advocates’ and the State became apparent.

    Best we refer this one the the Ministry of Ugliness. Because the Minister for Health, despite having access to the truth, continues to utter with the fraud, and the Attorney General doesn’t know where else to refer complaints regarding State sanctioned torture than to mental health services for ‘treatment’ (my questions are ones of law, and refer to the ability of the State to “edit” documents to conceal human rights abuses, and NOT a question of my sanity. I know i’m insane as a result of being ‘fuking destroyed’ by my own family at the request [threats by] of the State, but this doesn’t mean it wasn’t torture that caused that).

    Making admissions and saying sorry not likely for some time, ask the Aboriginal population of this Nation.

  • As stated, the person you appoint can be subjected to threats and intimidation (“coercive measures” such as mock execution or threats of pack rape. See HCA decision 47 2010; ACC v Stoddart. No spousal privilege in common law in Australia, coercive measures can be used to obtain information from spouse [and this thus also includes other privileged conversations with doctors, lawyers, psychologists, priests. The dominoes fall, but don’t inform the public]) to have them act in the interests of the State where I live.

    And as stated I had someone appointed to me without me even signing anything who was chosen by the hospital concerned when they knew that my chosen “next of kin”, lawyer, or my personal doctor would have made decisions that didn’t suit them in the circumstances (ie they probably wouldn’t have wanted me tortured, whereas the person who ‘spiked’ me did).

    You’ve no idea how lucky you are to be a US citizen. I thought being British meant I would at least receive some support from my own government but ….. they too have been ‘duped’ by the fraud and uttering, and prefer to turn a blind eye for the sake of ‘friendship’ over the safety of their own citizens.

  • In my State there is the ‘protection’ that a legal representative , on provision of a confidentiality agreement, can be provided with unredacted documents (with non disclosure information highlighted and a reason for the non disclosure to be provided) to ensure that human rights abuses do not go unnoticed. However, when public officers commit serious crimes and they have documented them, the State provides the ability to hospitals/police/ social workers etc to “edit” the documents before providing these fraudulent documents to the legal representative.

    These ‘legal representatives’ then become unwitting utterers for the State and ensure that the victim of their human rights abuses and fraud is “fuking destroyed”.

    Point out to anyone (such as a Member of Parliament) that the authorities are producing such fraud and “editing” their human rights abuses and criminal misconduct out of documents and the Police tell me that they can (a) refer you to mental health for your “hallucination” that police accept documented proof of crimes such as acts of torture by a Community Nurse, and (b) they can arrest you for having the real copies of your medical records, thus proving that the authorities are uttering with the fraud to other potential legal representatives.

    What good is it me having the documents showing that I was made into an “Outpatient” by a Community Nurse (with a lie) so he could procure the services of police and have me snatched from my bed and tortured, if all it gets me is a ‘hot shot’ in the Emergency Dept for providing the proof of these offences to Police? And the legal fraternity quite happy to go along with the “edited” version of reality while this is done?

    And with regards client confidentiality, my medical records were handed over from a Private Clinic to a Public Hospital AFTER I had been tortured and kidnapped as a means to conceal the human rights abuses. Simply a matter of doing whatever they want, and filling in the gaps with “editing” after should the victims survive to tell the tale.

    “There is no “confidentiality” of one’s on records from oneself. It is a contradiction in terms!”

    What they do here Steve is lead the “patient” astray by having them falsely believe they have a right to their documents, and then they call their ‘carer’ or ‘guardian’ and make suggestions about how to deny access to those documents. For example to deny me access to the documents showing I had been subjected to “procuring” (ie lie to Police about a citizens status and have them detained as a “patient” before ‘verballing them up’ and creating the appearance that you got your ‘referral’ FROM Police.) and was ‘spiked’ before being interrogated by Community Nurse AND Police, the FOI Officer of the Hospital concerned appointed my wife as my carer, and then told her that it might be best she not sign a release for my documents. The major problem was that the FOI Officer had NO EVIDENCE that I was anyones “patient” and thus was aware that she was conspiring to pervert the course of justice… but, nothing that can’t be fixed with some criminal fraud and some ‘chemical restraining’ of a citizen who can be made into a “patient” post hoc. Know how easy it is to make the response to being tortured appear to be a mental illness on Forms? I got one here should you care to examine it.

    So my advice is to be very careful what you sign with these people. In my instance they made numerous attempts to have me sign documents that would have allowed them to have me ‘treated’ against my will for speaking a truth that they did not prefer (ie the “unedited” version of reality).

    And this letter I have from our Chief Psychiatrist who it is patently obvious is uttering with the known fraud distributed from the hospital concerned? Not an issue, double down and keep maintaining the slander and gaslighting I have already been subjected to ….. for ten years now. Not a lawyer in the State that would touch it knowing what they are doing to anyone who dares question their “edited” version of reality. Believe me, i’ve tried (as many here would be aware). What does one do when the ‘mental health advocates’ are working with the human rights abusers to conceal the truth with fraud and uttering?

    Know how many lawyers will use the defense of “They wouldn’t do that”, but don’t have the courage to actually look? Knowing that Police will threaten the safety of their families? Knowing that mental health services will “fuking destroy” them for even making a complaint?

  • “Finally, knowing more about the music of the brain may lead us toward ways of enhancing mood, memory, and behavior.”

    This Is Serious Mum
    He’ll never be (an old man River) or I’m on the drugs that killed River Phoenix.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mLIdLZZeI

    I saw his body thrashing round.
    I saw his pulse rate going down.
    I saw him in convulsive throes.
    I said “I’ll have one of those”.

    Now I’m bored and there’s no stopping;
    I need another celeb to fill a coffin;
    Where’ll I get my next drug action?
    Odds on it’ll be Michael Jackson.

    Symphony of the Brain my arse lol (is that Dr Pies crowd surfing at the show? From a Beethoven symphony to Punk Rock with a pill? If only it was a choice as to what we played on our own CD players but …… it’s them picking the tunes. And when you’ve got a copyright on certain tracks, guess what your gunna play?)

  • I’m anti “ethnic cleansing”, which would seem I wish to leave the place in a mess. It’s only when you look at what the term actually means that you get the idea of why I might be against it.

    Thanks for that Dr Karadzic.

    And I would ask, given what we here know about the ‘voluntary’ nature of ‘treatments’, how voluntary are our ‘voluntary assisted dying laws’? Do they rely on legal protections such as “suspect on reasonable grounds” or “suspect on grounds doctor believes to be reasonable”? I know which I’d prefer, and I know which is being enabled. The law need only LOOK like it protects, and then simply ignore it and do whatever you like.

    How can those who do wrong be held to account, when the person charged with holding them to account claims they don’t know what the rules even are? It does however provide what is called a “window of opportunity” to deal with your little problems, and have the documents “edited” to present the preferred legal narrative to waiting lawyers [if that’s the correct term for someone conspiring to pervert the course of justice with organised criminals and conceal acts of torture and kidnapping. Or does the interests of the State come before their duty as legal representatives? My question was answered when they were all ‘restructured’].

  • “Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it” Adolf Hitler (of course he said it in German, and with much better skills than I have but …. you see my point)

    “It’s medicine” Dr Strangelove

    Just a question. If a ‘mental patient’ were to become Prime Minister, does this mean that their psychiatrist is now running the country?

  • It takes a brave man to speak up when the authorities are in a position to conceal their wrongdoing by “editing” realities, and eventually place themselves above the law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Hartinger

    Our Chief Psychiatrist has placed himself above the law by removing the protections afforded the community by the law. I have the letter here should you, or anyone with the ability to understand the significance of what has been done to remove the protection of “suspect on reasonable grounds” , the ‘spiking’ of citizens and use of police to create an “acute stress reaction” before interrogations, the use of ‘throw downs’ and the corrupt practice of ‘verballing ‘ to enable carte blanche for ‘political reasons’ (I consider anti psychiatry to be a political belief as it relates to matters of power. If I chose not to speak to a psychiatrist this is a right unless a burden of proof [suspect on reasonable grounds] is met by those making the accusation. Not so says our C.P. We ‘spike’ and have police snatch you from your bed anytime we like, any complaints we fuking destroy you and your family. And not a chance you will get ‘legal representation’, their funding and families are at risk).

    You may refuse to answer questions by police, but that means they then hand you over to mental health services to incarcerate you and force drug you until you answer the questions police want answered. [we spoke some time back regarding the refusal to answer questions posed by a Community Nurse and how that might be interpreted as being a ‘symptom’ rather than the exercising of a right] I think there’s a term for that but these people prefer euphemisms (‘unintended negative outcomes’, ‘referral and assessment’, ‘acute stress reaction’ to be caused by police restraint and detention)

    It seems that it is becoming “accepted practice” that where the government can not break the law, they simply transfer the matters to ‘medicine’ (in the form of psychiatry. Use of a ‘throw down’ to obtain a police referral and the citizen is now a ‘mental patient’. It’s as easy as that, confirmed by the Chief Psychiatrist and the Minister in writing) and now they are ‘above the law’ and ….. well, as I have explained before no matter what you say our Minister for Mental Health says “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”. The same was said about the ‘inmates’ at Dachau until Himmler managed to convince Hitler to make his “preventative arrests” lawful (‘Potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships grounds for incarceration and forced drugging’. See the letter).

    Care to see how our Chief Psychiatrist deals with the same matters Dr Hickey? “Suspect on reasonable grounds” (criteria not met, detention unlawful) becomes “suspect on grounds we [mental health professionals] believe reasonable”. Objective legal standard becomes subjective interpretation which can not be tested using logic and reasoning. Only a couple of letters, which I feel sure you would find ‘disturbing’. It would certainloy be ‘disturbing’ if the Chinese were doing it, but we call it ‘medicine’.

    I am, and always will be ANTI psychiatry in as much as I will always stand against the brutalising of citizens for political and financial gain.

  • Just a taste of what to expect if you do engage legal representation.

    I went to a large law firm associated with a woman who had a movie made about her, and who claims to ‘help the little guy’ (aka me).

    I provided them with the unredacted documentation showing that I was ‘spiked’ with benzos and then ‘verballed up’ on a Form after being unlawfully detained and referred by police to the Community Nurse. I went to great lengths to explain the situation to these lawyers in the hope that I may, just may, stop someone else from being harmed by these people.

    After a short period of time I received a phone call explaining that they could not assist me and that the ‘spiking’ had been authorised by my doctor. I asked who this doctor was, and was told they could not tell me who my doctor was because of confidentiality. It is patently obvious on the documentation from Triage that I was NOT a “patient” and therefore HAD NO DOCTOR. Such negligence when the first item on the agenda for a lawyer should be to establish my status and who my doctor was. Of course the truth in this situation is not the preferred one, and if the Chief Psychiatrist actually knew what a burden of proof was (and was not authorising ‘spikings’ of citizens and arbitrary detentions using unlawful police referrals [they do not meet the “reasonable grounds standard set out in the MH Act] A letter I am pleased to have, and one that even the defenders of the mentally ill have had to ‘unread’ to ensure that these arbitrary detentions and torture can continue without interruption. Care to see the letters?) he would also have recognised the crimes before anyone else got hurt but ……..

    So I can’t know who my doctor is? Why on earth would that be the case? Of course none of this put in writing because well, the fact is that they had documented proof of crimes right under their noses, but did not wish to actually do anything that would see the criminals held to account. They must of course have been shaking their heads at the incompetence of the State sanctioned cover up. They usually remove the crimes before telling law firms to throw their clients under a bus given that the action is no ‘civil’ rather than criminal as a result of the “editing” (read criminal fraud. Note that the documents are to be provided to my legal representative unredacted to protect human rights, and yet the Chief Psychiatrist despite the procedure being followed fails to recognise that his own “Operational Directive” is being breached to conceal torture and kidnapping) of the truth.

    Plausibly deniable? No, and in fact they have provided assistance to people who have gone on to harm others. But gee they sure had me convinced that they cared about the little guy there for a moment. And well, as I say not prepared to put anything in writing, and the lawyer I spoke to no longer works at this law firm they tell me. Of course this also creates more work for me, someone they are fully aware of being already traumatised from being subjected to torture and kidnapping. Only assistance these people are giving the ‘little guy’ is to kick them in the face while they are down. They are acting according to what they are told to do by the very people who are committing the offences.

    Keep it in mind should you chose this path. I get the feeling they actually enjoy the gaslighting, the feeling of being on the side that never loses a much needed boost to their ego. Because when the State can “edit” torture and kidnapping out of legal narrative and then ‘dispose’ of the complainant, believe me, they never lose. The unintended negative outcomes become another cover up of their cover up. Remove the motive and the rest falls into place. And with a Minister who says “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” what chance do you have once falsely ‘flagged’ as a nut job or window licker by police [their DSM only has two diagnoses at the Police Station, and No copy of the Criminal Code once your diagnosed]. They are now protecting and serving the interests of organised criminals, and your well…. outcomed.

    Note that the original legal represenatives gave the State the opportunity to retrieve the documents I had before submitting the fraudulent set to them, so they could then ensure the outcome the State wanted to be true. The other law firm were presented with the ‘real’ set of documents and thus didn’t get the chance to have the ‘fraudulent’ set of documents submitted to them before ensuring the States outcome [hence the need to fabricate a reason to not render assistance aka my non-existent doctor]. They actually saw the crimes, the Law Centre ensured they didn’t once they engaged in a conspiracy to conceal the torture and kidnapping with the State (for their funding being increased, or was that just a coincidence?)

  • And the bit that really gets to me is that the Minister and the Principle of the Law Centre (who conspired to pervert and do a cover up while the original criminals made ‘alternative arrangements’ for me) cheated not just me, but the whole International Community who are trying to actually help people who are suffering from the effects of trauma. And they continue to conceal the truth and allow the cancer to spread rather than face the facts. Disgraceful.

    A human rights organisation, and a ‘protection’ from human rights abuses is engaging in cover ups of torture and kidnappings? Sure, sounds too good to be true (aka they wouldn’t do that), but I note not a soul bothered to check if what I am saying is the truth or not, and those that have soon turned their backs and ran. Advocates or hypocrites?

  • “I have yet to figure out what can be done… a lot of dead ends and no one willing to help in the professional community.”

    Couple of points to consider James.

    Lawyer X in Australia has revealed the corrupt nature of our court system. A high profile criminal lawyer acting as a police informant, resulting in more than a 1000 criminal convictions that need to be overturned. I note this is common practice when the State finds itself in breach of the Convention against the use of Torture or doing arbitrary detentions. The people charged with ‘protecting’ the public work and collude with the State to ensure that no action can be taken. They “edit” documents and threaten people to obtain silence. And of course what lawyer is going to advise you to continue down a path where you will be taking on a mafia? I would suggest they will want payment up front before you are unintentionally negatively outcomed. (not unlike the psychiatrist who when I said I was having suicidal thoughts, said I would need to pay in advance)

    My suggestion. Admire the cancerous growth within ‘medicine’ for what it is. It’s a beautiful thing that will ultimately destroy it’s host and thus itself. You can’t stop it, but you can profit from it. Sure it is ugly to see people being enslaved and harmed deliberately, but if you have the stomach for it there is money to be made.

    Forget looking to the law for a solution. Too late, the cancer has spread there long ago. My ‘legal representatives’ were nothing more than informants for the State to ensure their human rights abuses went unnoticed by providing the State with information to conceal their vile acts, and then use the mental patient to [truth removed to stop the messenger being shot] Police not able to find their copy of the Criminal Code and prepared to arrest and refer the victim of State sanctioned torture to the people who tortured me for ‘treatment’. And yet I watch as a Serial Killer is sentenced to life in prison, though he can refuse to speak to a psychiatrist and his rights are respected (unlike mine which resulted in me being drugged, snatched from my bed, kidnapped and ‘verballed’ before a Doctor signed a prescription to conceal the Police and Community Nurses vile deeds). I feel certain Police may find grounds they consider to be reasonable (as opposed to the legal protection ignored by the Chief Psychiatrist of “suspect on reasonable grounds”) to make a referral of such criminal accused to ‘friendly’ doctors [see for example the Senior Medical Officer who signed a prescription 12 hours after I was ‘spiked’ and made them my “regular medications” to conceal the criminal offences and torture by police who subjected me to ‘coercive interrogation at my home before dropping me off for a ‘chemical restraint’) given the letter I have here from the Minister for Mental Health authorizing arbitrary detentions and torture? You may refuse to answer questions from police, but that is grounds for a referral to mental health services and they will begin ‘treatment’ until you do answer the questions. So much for your right to silence lol

    Ten years on and they were open about the threat to ‘fuking destroy’ me for complaining. Still haven’t seen my daughter or grandchildren (though I note some complain about not seeing their families for months because of COVID and may possibly have all that is needed to snatch them from their beds and force drug and electrocute them). But the idea of the justice system taking it’s course is a joke. Not a soul could defend these “edited” documents as not being an act of criminal fraud by a public officer so……. simply deny access to the justice system. What criminal code…… and thus what lawyer would dare touch something the State has shat all over to conceal the fact they are using the hospital as a franchised torture centre?

    Learn to love it I say. Encourage their corruption, because if they are punished then they may just be forgiven (though I can not see how God would forgive the systematic ‘outcoming’ of vulnerable individuals, but not my decision to make, it’s the States)

    I saw an Australian man stuck in China as a result of COVID speaking about his terror at the fact the government could simply come to his home, take his temperature and if it was too high, he could be dragged away to a hospital and forced to be among sick people. I didn’t even have a temperature the day I was snatched from my bed by police, I was simply asleep as a result of being ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug, evidence fabricated, kidnapped and then when I complained????? Though I guess that it is such a common event here the ‘system’ knows how to deal with the victims, “edit” the reality and then use them for gain.

  • “And thanks for this insight into criminal con-artists.”

    I guess like the way the definition of torture according to the Convention against it’s use, the ‘switch’ can be flicked.

    “Inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” making what these people do appear lawful, and therefore not defined as acts of torture.

    And as such they may also appear to be doctors, though many know this not to be the case. My State has a need for people who can deal with those who expose acts of State sanctioned misconduct and human rights abuses, and being able to have police drop citizens at an Emergency Dept for ‘treatment’ fits the bill nicely. With a simple change of status (“citizen” with human rights becomes “patient” without any rights), also means that criminal torturers and kidnappers become doctors with severe side effects, and police will look the other way while the negative outcomes are concealed. What else would a doctor think when police drop a truth speakers at the hospital for ‘treatment’ but that they wanted them negatively outcomed? It is after all for the State, their employer.

    I guess my point is Doc that you need to know what it is your looking at. A white coat does not a doctor make.

    “Or say they: There is a madness in him? Nay, but he bringeth them the Truth; and most of them are haters of the Truth.” (23:70)

    Especially when the truth means they are engaging in acts of torture and ‘medical kidnapping’ (like the preferred term for their “verballing” of ‘noble corruption’. The adjective to soften the offence. It is after all simply corrupt and a mean to subvert the legal protections afforded the public via the negligence of those with a duty to protect. Care to see the letter from our Chief Psychiatrist authorising arbitrary detentions [of ‘citizens’ later to be “edited” into “patients”] under the Mental Health Act?) and trying to conceal it from public view. What better way to conceal it than slandering the victim as mad……. that is until the documented truth they failed to retrieve turns up in one of their stations eh? Now they have the problem of not only the torture and kidnapping, but also the “edited” (read criminal fraud and conspire to pervert) documents being presented to a Federal Court?

    Do you do your duty? Or do you inform those who have failed to conceal their criminal conduct and assist them in burying the truth with further misconduct (and watch where they run with it)? I know what was done in my instance.

  • “The authors state that the deterioration of a patient’s mental health was automatically assumed to be the result of non-compliance around medication:”

    This assumption is the equivalent of police who hear the words “I can’t breathe” and assume it means they are not standing on your neck hard enough.

    The efforts to have the “patient” comply is the problem, NOT the solution, and is highly likely the cause of many acts of violence. Still, from my experience, many of them know this and use that situation to have “patients” dealt with harshly by police. Nothing like poking a snake to justify killing it when it strikes back. Especially when you have it drugged and in a very confused state.

    “How the UK Mental Health Act Uses Psychiatric Discourse to Justify Rights Restrictions” or more correctly, how to use sophisticated slander (hate speech) to justify human rights abuses.

  • “system sponsored and coopted entities” aka ‘coolers’.

    In fact, I find that using the argot of the criminal world when speaking about psychiatry really shows what a racket it really is.

    They’re not “patients” but “marks”, the “chemical imbalance” nothing but a sleight of hand (and a lazy one at that), and one that at times requires the services of a “cooler” to silence the person whose brain has been damaged and has figured out they have been “taken”.

    Imagine being given the ability to have police snatch citizens from their homes and force them into a three card monte. A con mans wet dream.

  • I assume you have read Goffmans work “On cooling the mark out” Dr Hickey?

    http://infofranpro.wikidot.com/19520101-on-cooling

    “the cooler has the job of handling persons who have been caught out on a limb‑persons whose expectations and self‑conceptions have been built up and then shattered. The mark is a person who has compromised himself, in his own eyes if not in the eyes of others.

    Although the term, mark, is commonly applied to a person who is given short-lived expectations by operators who have intentionally misrepresented the facts, a less restricted definition is desirable in analyzing the larger social scene.”

    “Misrepresented facts”, “expectations and self-conceptions shattered”?

    These guys are operating as ‘coolers’ in the interview you have torn to shreds. You recognise as much in your comment:

    “But they haven’t done so, because the deception served, and continues to serve, their interests. It created the impression that they were real doctors; it legitimized the rampant prescribing of mood-altering drugs and destructive electric shocks; it enhanced the psychiatrists’ prestige, and improved their earning power. And psychiatry is drawing down the benefits of this hoax to this very day.”

    (to quote John Lydon, “ever get the feelin you’ve been cheated?”)

    The aim of ‘cooling’ is to ensure the ‘operators’ are not exposed, and the ‘game’ can continue on any street corner out of view of the authorities who could put an end to it any any moment. It has been quite a feat to ensure that those ‘squawkers’ (of which there are many, and more each day) have been effectively silenced.

    I’ll copy my comment to your website …… just in case your expose of the ‘con’ (and the attempted ‘cooling’) is removed.

    Once again, thank you Dr Hickey.

  • “Charlatans can prosper only in a world of people who don’t think.”

    People have been aware that the three card monte is a con for many years now, and yet they still enter the ‘game’ thinking they can win.

    In my situation I was forced to ‘play’ (at the point of a weapon, my right to liberty and bodily integrity the bet) despite me being fully aware of the con, and knowing that I would lose. You can’t put words into someones mouth if they don’t open it. My refusal to talk to these people resulted in me being ‘spiked’ with benzos and being roughed up by police to force me to talk. And when I refused, that refusal used as justification for further acts of torture by the State. Complaints result in you being “fucking destroyed” (to quote the person who investigated the human rights abuses and found them to be correct, and then engaged in criminal acts for the State to ensure these human rights abuses were concealed, with fraud and an attempt to kill in an Emergency Dept (see my article How to ‘hotshot’ in the E.D.; and have the Coroner sign it off). How dare I question their authority to drug me without my knowledge, have police snatch me from my bed and deliver me to a hospital for treatment for an illness they were about to make up with the twisting of words and a lie that I was their “patient”?

    Charlatans can prosper in a world where they can use force to make the victims appear to have entered the ‘game’ with full consent, and then use whatever means necessary to ‘cool out the mark’ (to use Erving Goffmans term. “the street hustler uses poise, the white collar criminal position”). Threaten their families, commit acts of fraud, slander them, and if necessary ‘unintentionally negatively outcome’ them. And to think that they are paying for it is the biggest joke of all among those ‘in the know’.

    Charlatans can prosper where they can put a gun to your head and make you sign, and then deny the use of unnecessary force to have you consent. Especially where this ‘noble corruption’ is being enabled by the State authorities. (anyone care to see the letter yet?)

    In fact, I have prepared a proposal for my government to show them how to torture citizens into confessions using the provisions of Mental Health Act, and then using the Proceeds of Crime legislation to empty their bank accounts. And there isn’t a damn thing the victims could do about it, given that they would need to complain to the same people doing it. Credit to the National Socialists in Germany for the idea, and many thanks to the State government here for making it all possible. Thinking or not isn’t going to help.

  • Wow Robin, Welcome to the Machine.

    I’m reminded of the words of Pink Floyd in The Wall.

    “Good morning Worm Your Honor, the Crown will plainly show the prisoner who now stands before you, was caught red handed showing feelings. Showing feelings of an almost human nature. This will not do.”

    So you have now met the Mental Health Jihadis. I was reading an interesting quote earlier regarding the ‘morality police’ from a character in a movie called Timbuktu.

    “In town, the people suffer, powerless, from the regime of terror imposed by the Jihadists determined to control their faith.” (or in our case, our ‘mental health’ or ‘feelings’). “Every day, the new improvised courts issue tragic and absurd sentences.” (not unlike the psychiatric Tribunals)

    The quote that interested me though came from an Imam who watches as the Jihadis do whatever they like and justify their atrocious behaviour based on the fact they are on ‘jihad’ (had you been a criminal, police would have treated you much better, but a ‘mental patient’? See how I. S. deals with kuffar). He asks;

    “[to a jihadist] Stop this. You cause harm to Islam and Muslims. You put children in danger in front of their poor mother. You even hit the mother of two children without any good reason. Before you came, a woman was here to complain that you forced her to wear gloves– here they are– without convincing her of their usefulness, as is prescribed by Allah and His prophet. Remember the words of Allah the Almighty: “So pardon them. Consult them in the matter. Speak with them. Once you’ve made a decision, put your trust in Allah, for He loves those who rely upon Him.” Where’s leniency? Where’s forgiveness? Where’s piety? Where’s exchange… exchange? Where is God in all this?”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtqDO1fMrr8

    So they simply enforce rules without even bothering to explain why, as is prescribed. They snatch you from your home, no consultation, no exchange…. they slander with “crazy ones” and some are even more sophisticated with their slander (see the DSM for a list of the sophisticated slanders), and they mock God with their claim that what they are doing is “for the best”. Take these drugs because I say so, and if not we will force you. Not unlike the woman forced to wear the gloves with no explanation.

    Such a shame our governments are allowing this ‘Psychiatric State’ to grow unrestrained, and that they are failing to recognise the danger from within, whilst trying to deal with the threat in other places using the same methods, and in the end for the same purpose, absolute power.

  • “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you” — Friedrich Nietzsche.

    This possibly explains why the comments by Justice John Paul Stevens could quite easily apply to the criminals who covered up acts of torture and kidnapping for the State. The ‘advocates’ are working with the abusers and neglecting their duty via conspiracies’ to pervert the course of justice and to conceal wrongdoing by the State……..for a price.

    They “have diminished capacities to understand and process information, to communicate, to abstract from mistakes and learn from experience, to engage in logical reasoning, to control impulses, and to understand the reactions of others…

    [care to look at the letter from our Chief Psychiatrist in this regard? Time travel and the reading of minds a skill to be used by a Community Nurse in justifying their actions on statutory declarations logical? And an inability to understand why anyone might be upset about being drugged with a date rape drug without their knowledge and snatched from their bed by police because “tomato”. The burden of proof of “reasonable grounds” removed from the law to make what were crimes appear lawful?]

    “…they often act on impulse rather than pursuant to a premeditated plan, and that in group settings they are followers rather than leaders. Their deficiencies do not warrant an exemption from criminal sanctions, but they do diminish their personal culpability.”

    The plan and open threat by the State to ‘fuking destroy’ someone they knew had been subjected to human rights abuses cobbled together after the fact and in a group manner where those charged with a duty to protect turned a blind eye to further vile deeds to conceal the truth. Human rights, accountability and a rule of law mocked by those who consider themselves above the law, and for very good reason. The ‘advocates’ are working with the abusers to conceal human rights abuses for the State by neglecting their duty and conspiring to pervert the course of justice, for a price.

  • “These drugs have been on the market for decades. After all this time, can anyone point to any convincing evidence that they produce meaningful long-term benefits for children or adults?”

    Yes, I can.

    There was a doctor in my State who prescribed ADHD drugs to 2075 “patients” over a calendar year. The publication of this data obviously a problem, so the current Minister for Health has dismantled the legislation which allows the public to know about these prescribing practices. If it looks ‘dirty’, make sure the public can’t see it.

    And my “convincing evidence” for “meaningful long term benefits”? The doctor concerned Real Estate portfolio says it all. The benefits have been immense.

  • “The referrer, in this case, a mental health clinician who has undergone training as an Authorised Mental Health Practitioner (AMHP), has only to ‘suspect’ on grounds they believe to be reasonable that the person requires an examination by a psychiatrist. The reasons listed on the Form 1 are considered to be reasonable grounds at the time of referral including the potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships. lt is noted Boans provides justifiable explanations for what was listed. The presence of potential individual explanations regarding certain behaviours does not diminish the capacity of an AMHP to consider the broader clinical picture which may give grounds to suspect mental illness. Of importance is the observed behaviours of the patient which can represent a risk to the person or other however justifiable the reasons for behaviours may be.”

    (1) note the change of the burden of proof? No longer is the AMHP required to “suspect on reasonable grounds” that the ‘referred person’ (NOT “patient”) requires to be an “involuntary patient”. They need only ‘suspect’. The Mental Health Act s. 29 states;

    “an authorised mental health practitioner who suspects on reasonable grounds that a person should be made an involuntary patient may refer the person for examination by a psychiatrist.”

    So the Chief Psychiatrist removes the protection of the law of “reasonable grounds” and enables “suss laws” with forced drugging’s as consequences. No longer does the AMHP need to believe that the person needs to meet the Criteria set out in s. 26 of the MHA, they only need to believe the person needs a chat with a psychiatrist. And when did the Chief Psychiatrist get to rewrite the laws to remove human rights protections?

    (2) The reasons listed on the Form 1 are what is called the corrupt practice of “verballing”, and even a cursory examination of what is claimed to have been “observed” could not possibly have occurred. I had been “spiked” with benzodiazepines and the AMHP wrote in his notes that I was collapsed in my bed, how then could he possibly have “observed” me “not sleeping” for the past two days? My “thoughts of harming others” observed? He would have had to have travelled back in time three weeks to have “observed” that, and well changing my right to defend my home should I be attacked as had been suggested by my wifes nephew, into a “threat to kill” was quite an “observation” to make. I’m sure muggers consider victims who try to defend themselves to be mentally disturbed killers too.

    So these important “observed behaviours” that could not possibly have been “observed” become the basis for incarceration and forced drugging?

    And consider the words “potential individual explanations regarding certain behaviours”. I mean lets be honest, it seems a little unfair that he was aware of the fact I had been ‘spiked’ with benzos, he then asks me about drug use for police who are standing either side of me, and when I refuse to self incriminate and ask to be allowed to speak to a lawyer before answering his quesion, he writes as an “observed behaviour” “refused to answer re substance abuse”. I’d have to know what substances I was being abused with before I could answer that question surely?

    This Form 1 statutory declaration is to meet a standard of ;
    Non-compliance with form or procedure, effect of
    (1) The validity of an oath, affirmation or statutory declaration is not affected by the fact that the person taking or making it does not use the exact words required as long as the words actually used do not materially affect the substance of the exact words and are not likely to mislead.

    Not only has this Form been prepared using the corrupt practice of “verballing”, it has been proven to breach the standard as it is not only “likely to mislead” it actually MISLED the Chief Psychiatrist into making the above false statement. The grounds were not “reasonable” and the only way these offences can be overlooked is to remove “reasonable grounds” from the Act and make anything the AMHP wants to be “reasonable”. So that is precisely what the Chief Psychiatrist does in the above statement, he removes any ‘reasonableness’ from the Law.

    Logic tells me that my “potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships” (observed behaviour, how do you observe a potential?) requires me to be dragged off by police in front of my mother and father in law and to inform them that no I have not committed any crime, but an being taken to a locked ward of a mental institution for some ‘dribble therapy’. I’m sure they would agree as i had said I was going to leave their daughter, and that is of course surely a mental illness, or at least grounds to ‘suspect’, and thus meets the standard set out by the Chief Psychiatrist above. “need only ‘suspect'” before making referral (shame it is allowing all of these human rights abuses while he is asleep at the wheel, maybe he is being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs too?)

    Still, he went on to have a great career torturing and kidnapping people with police, and all the people that have been harmed in the 14 months it took the Chief Psychiatrist to respond to my complaint (“sorry for the delay in responding the manager was away over the Christmas break”) in a manner which demonstrates an understanding of the Law that could be expected of a high school student, when he provides “expert legal advice to the Minister”. Citizens being ‘spiked’ and snatched from their beds on police referrals because “tomato” perfectly “reasonable” according to the person who is charged under the Act with protecting “consumers, carers and the community”?

    You write Mr Timmimi that;

    “It’s troubling when doctors use a descriptive category like depression to explain and cannot see this problem of tautological circularity. ”

    It is even more troubling when that type of reasoning is being used to conceal what ARE criminal acts. Care to take a look at this letter from our Chief Psychiatrist and see if you can unravel the ‘poison pen letter’ sent to a victim of State sanctioned torture and kidnapping? How a “referred person” under the Mental Health Act who has maintained their right to consent becomes a “patient” before the AMHP even leaves the hospital? One telephone call and your now a “patient”, it’s just a matter of having police hand you over, despite this being a crime under our Criminal Code of “procuring”. Such a shame the “expert legal” knowledge claimed by our Chief Psychiatrist doesn’t extend to AMHP lying to police and telling them they need help with a “patient”.

    And the things you can do to people once they have had their status changed. My complaint about these matters resulting in me being told I would be “fuking destroyed”, and sure enough that’s exactly what they have done to me and my family. I would have thought the Chief Psychiatrist would be interested in such matters but ……..”accepted practice” apparently. No worries ‘spiking’ “patients” and having police rough em up ready for interrogations by doctors (with police at arms length and providing the questions).

    Still, I guess my “observed behaviours” mean what I am saying could not be the truth right? My question being what does my “behaviour” have to do with the issue of these people engaging in acts of torture and kidnapping citizens? The two seem mutually exclusive to me, but by slandering me after removing the proof of the ‘spiking’ I can now be ignored and discriminated against to conceal these human rights abuses.

    Why on earth would the State wish to remove the ability to “fuking destroy” citizens who complain about public sector misconduct and human rights abuses including acts of torture, kidnapping and to use a euphemism preferred by the C.P. “unintended negative outcomes”?

    And not a soul prepared to look, and when they have they run away afraid for their families.

    “Of importance is the observed behaviours of the patient which can represent a risk to the person or other however justifiable the reasons for behaviours may be.” A bit like police and their standing on peoples necks being resisting arrest while they thrash around trying to breathe, and then when they expire they are ‘passively resisting arrest’.

  • In fact, and I quote from the letter by the Chief Psychiatrist, these types of ‘medical examinations’ are “accepted practice”.

    The Community Nurse has the power, upon receiving someone from police for an ‘assessment’ to make a referral to an authorised hospital for an examination by a psychiatrist. Nowhere in the Act does it say anything about an examination by anyone who wishes to examine the person. Now as a ‘referred person’ you retain your right to consent, and I had expressly refused.

    So if it is “accepted practice” for doctors to medically examine people here without their consent, why not Qatar? Designation and authority? He had none, and was merely tricking me into allowing him to examine me so he could write a prescription for the ‘spiking’ and conceal the acts of torture and kidnapping for police and his colleague the Community Nurse. All very serious crimes but an attitude of we are unaccountable runs right through it all, and rightly so given police will assist in the concealment of the conspiring to pervert the course of justice.

    His three minute interview where he established I lived with my wife and had a degree grounds for him giving me a “provisional diagnosis” of three serious mental illnesses and prescribing a ‘chemical restraint’ I have been told would have made me very very ill before I was even examined by the psychiatrist.

    I can’t help but wonder if these types of organised criminals are allowed to run rampant in Qatar. Torturing, kidnapping and then outcoming anyone who dares to complain. 9 years later I still get a letter from our current Minister telling me they consider this ‘treatment’ to be perfectly fine and they are sorry I am still upset about my ‘referral and assessment’ (read torture and kidnapping if the police could just find their copy of the criminal code), and I should get some ‘help’ from the people who tortured and kidnapped me and well…… lets just forget about that thing in the Emergency Dept.

  • “It is not something that I have ever heard of occurring in my life, in any context. We have made our views very clear to Qatari authorities on this matter,” Payne said.”

    Obviously the Minister for Foreign Affairs’ doesn’t have a good understanding of our Mental Health Laws. Is she aware that she could be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and then snatched from her bed by police and delivered to a mental institution where if she refuses to undergo a ‘medical examination’ she will be ‘chemically restrained’ with a shot of anti psychotics large enough to lay an elephant out for a week?

    No, this is not limited to “patients” but anyone on a police referral which can occur when a Community Nurse calls police and askes them to assist him with a ‘Home Visit’. That’s right, it could be YOUR home he visits. Police hand you over to him, he makes up reasons for locking you up and force drugging you until you answer the questions police want answered. In fact, they can administer drugs to you without your knowledge and have a doctor write a prescription for them 12 hours later when he finally gets to meet his new “patient”.

    “She said it had been taken up with the Qatari ambassador in Canberra and she expected to see the local authorities’ report on what happened at the airport.”

    i wonder if the Qatari government changes legal narratives with “editing” of documents and proof? I know Australia does. Person ‘spiked’ and snatched from their bed and tortured for 7 hours becomes long term mental patient who is a paranoid delusional complaining about being ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug. Amazing what you can do by swapping a few documents in the chronology of events eh? especially when lawyers will assist in ensuring the victim receives no assistance with these human rights abuses. They simply look the other way while the State outcomes them.

    “Asked whether the earlier statement on “free and informed consent” meant she was suggesting the women had been sexually assaulted, Payne said: “No, I am not suggesting that because I have not seen the detailed report of the events.””

    As I have stated in other places the issue is one of “intent and purpose” and as long as the doctor remains silent on the issue then no action can be taken. As I have also said, the ‘con’ used in our hospitals here is to deceive the person by claiming authority they do not have. You are approached by a ‘doctor’ and assume it is the psychiatrist and by not informing you of their designation and authority, any complaint can be concealed with the claim that consent was implied. You were told to get on the table and remove your clothes and you did it. Okay so you thought the police with weapons pointed at you was a threat but …. sorry, you thought wrong. We call that ‘coercion’, and rightly so, it does not constitute torture minus an assault (like ‘spiking’ someone) Certainly how it works in Australia.

    In my instance I was informed that the ‘doctor’ was NOT a psychiatrist, and only a Senior Medical Officer, hence my statement that “you do not have my consent to conduct this examination, and if you do it will constitute an assault”. Still, with thugs available to him, what choice did I have but to remove my clothes and allow him to insert objects into me?

    I even wrote back to the Chief Psychiatrist and explained that the reason the SMO didn’t explain his “designation and authority” to me was because he didn’t actually have any, and that as a referred person I had every right to refuse my consent. The documents of the ‘medical examination’ proof that the assault occurred. ‘Fuk off nutjob [I wonder how that’s written in Arabic? Perhaps the Minister can tell me when the Qatari ‘local authorities’ respond to her lol], you got no lawyer’ basically the response. Human rights when the State can ensure you get no legal representation, and the authority charged with your protection simply neglects their duty?

  • I’d agree Gene, but to say such a thing in Australia might result in you being put into prison. It is a criminal offence to suggest any interference with the electoral process and people HAVE been put into prison for publishing articles showing to how to render your compulsory vote “null and void” (ie ensure it doesn’t end up being a vote for one of the two majors by default).

    A ‘donkey vote’ (having your name checked off to avoid being fined and then depositing the blank form into the Ballot Box) is effectively a vote for the party currently in power.

    They really want to look like they were voted into power by popular vote. And if people start making it look like we don’t want one of the majors then ….. they are going to look like Augusto Pinochet rather than Nelson Mandela.

    Of course no problem if you own a lot of media and you engage in a process of manipulating the outcomes of elections for ‘foreign investors’. Mates rates and all that.

  • “The Australian government has said it is “deeply concerned” at the “offensive, grossly inappropriate treatment” of female passengers on a Qatar Airways flight to Sydney, who were ordered to disembark the plane in Doha and were subjected to a strip search and a medical examination”

    Implied consent? They did as they were told, so it would be fair to assume consent.

    And yet they have no concerns about me being ‘spiked’, snatched out of my bed by police and delivered to a hospital where I was subjected to a strip search and medical examination without my consent (in fact I ensured I told the doctor who was pretending to be a psychiatrist he was breaking the law [okay breaching my human rights]).

    “human rights breaches of two of the articles” I hear being shouted on the radio, “a grossly, grossly disturbing, offensive, concerning set of events”, which had been reported to the Australian federal police. At least they haven’t tried to unintentionally negatively outcome them for complaining, as is done when you complain about being tortured and kidnapped in my State.

    Now I know the doctor who forced me to remove my clothes under threat of restraint, and then inserted objects into me was not allowed to do so. The fact he was shaking when he did it kind of proves it. I had both my mental AND legal capacity at that point, and only had the status of a “referred person”. So Australia complains about conduct they ignore when it is done here.

    Not for a moment am I condoning the conduct, I know how they feel having a doctor force you to do something you do not wish to do such as take your clothes’ off when he knows you have been ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug, and you don’t. But lets be honest about the way this matter was dealt with by my government, they have openly threatened to ‘fuking destroy’ me for complaining. And NOW this is gross and offensive? Ignored the facts in preference for the false legal narrative set out in “edited” documents?

    They should hardly be surprised when the Qatari govt simply ignores them. It’s the first step in how they resolve any complaints regarding human rights abuses, ensure there is no avenue for remedy. Conceal the proof of the violations, and then dispose of the victim via an unintended negative outcome? Oh, you mean these people will get access to legal representation? Wow, what a unique concept for a State that denies any right to representation when it is their own human rights violations. Even my OWN government refusing to provide me any assistance.

    According to our Chief Psychiatrist they need only “suspect” that these women required an examination (no need for the “reasonable grounds” standard to be met) and they could then use any amount of force to conduct that examination, even ‘spike’ them if required. Care to see his letter? In which case, drop the complaint.

  • Completely different situation where I live. They issue fines to people who have NOT voted, usually a small amount. And then when that fine, which may be delivered to an address where the person no longer lives remains unpaid, it turns into a fine of thousands of dollars, which can result in the person being put in prison. Of course it is never said that they are being put in prison for not voting, but for not paying their fines. And this of course effects people who have ‘mental health issues’ much more than others in the community.

    I actually tried to have my name taken OFF the electoral role. My argument being that I would not vote for a government that would turn a blind eye to people being tortured and kidnapped, and then unintended negatively outcomed for complaining in places they wrongly call ‘hospitals’.

    It creates a false impression when people are forced into voting for two parties that both want the same thing, more repressive laws, and more corrupt police to enforce those laws. It looks like we got the government we voted for, when in reality we got the best choice out of two bad choices.

    I’ll vote when there is a party that will uphold our rights to protections from being snatched from our beds and interrogated by police after being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and then “edits” the documents to enable the ‘fuking destrution’ of the person who complains. The laws that they are writing are being ignored by the authorities charged with enforcing them anyway (our Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the Mental Health Act to enable arbitrary detentions and torture, care to see the letter?). So it seems that these ‘elected representatives’ are there for show anyway, and the State will do whatever it wants despite laws that are designed to protect the community.

    I’ll vote when the issues they intend passing laws about are discussed before an election, and not presented after they have won power and then pass laws that have never been openly discussed by the community. We were told that 90% of the public wants Euthanasia Laws after our election (zero proof of this well published statement, along with the media told to not draw attention to the similarities of the laws to those passed by National Socialists in Germany). Not a word about it before the election, I assume because the game is to tell people what they want to hear until you get the job, and then do whatever you want after.

    I envy you people having a democratic process and a rule of law where these issues are discussed without someone being dragged off to a mental institution for ‘treatment’, or slandered by a government Minister for speaking a truth they don’t like. Allegations of documented torture by police are justification for ‘treatment’ at a mental health facility? And these people are pointing the finger at China for arbitrary detentions? Hang on to it, because you really have no idea what it is like without it.

    Our smoke and mirrors act regarding human rights abuses will no doubt be exposed at some point in time. There are reasons that so many people are making complaints despite the fact they have some serious methods of silencing victims of their abuses here. Imagine an Operations Manager being able to use her position as a representative of the State to push people to suicide, and then use those deaths as a means to ask for more funding? I wonder how many people she ‘fuking destroys’ in a week when they may complain about their ‘treatment (which includes ‘spikings’ with date rape drugs, and lying to police about “patients”)? And then goes for lunch with the Clinical Director on the taxpayers dollar while they “edit” the documents.

    What good is a right to vote in a Police State? Ice cream in Hell lol

  • I can’t help but wonder if the attempt by our current government to provide our elected representatives from immunity from prosecution is as a direct result of being made aware of the crimes being committed under the guise of psychiatry.

    Consider the effect of being forced into reporting to the ‘watchdog’ authority, and receiving a report back about the levels of criminal misconduct in the ‘industry’? A failure to act on such information would, under our laws, mean that they would now be complicit in the offences by compounding or concealing them, and failing to perform their duty. Hence the need for an Attorney General to make complaints regarding acts of torture a question of the sanity of the victim, rather than a question of law.

    This may mean that they need to conceal any criminality they are aware of until they can ensure there is no judicial oversight of their role, and that the failure to act on crimes which have been concealed as ‘medicine’ using the Mental Health Act can continue to be concealed from the public. This would allow police to continue to deny access to the courts for crimes by passing criminal matters over to the civil arena and ensure that no action over these matters is ever allowed to see the light of day in the courts. They continue to discriminate (against the ‘disabled’ which is what psychiatry actually does, disable citizens) using the fact they don’t have a copy of the criminal code in the police station, thus making what they know to be crimes to be passed over to the civil lawyers, and then threaten them into inaction and the “editing” of documented crimes. Thus these human rights abuses could then be used to conceal human rights abuses, which is effectively what is being done here.

    Something the National Socialists thought would work too. By placing the Office of Jewish Affairs under the secrecy of the Gestapo, any actions they then took became lawful only because of the fact that they could conceal any criminality from the public? They effectively become unaccountable.

    Similarly any acts of State sanctioned torture (etc) is to be reported to our ‘watchdog’, but could be concealed by that body after they made report to our Parliament. The ball is then in their court as to whether they maintain the silence over the matters (which could be considered criminal, hence the need for immunity ie place themselves outside the law) or hold these people who they rely on to maintain power to account for their crimes.

    No more unintended negative outcomes that require civil non action if they are required to act on the ‘accidents’ that are being enabled in our Emergency Depts. Hence the current need to “edit” documents showing criminal acts requested under FOI. Who is authorising these “editing’s”? (if your with me, check the fact that the only person who could actually do this without being held to account is the Minister due to them not being held to scrutiny under the Ombudsman Act. The Operations Manager is a criminal, but if the Minister checks her ‘work’ and is prepared to sign off on it, then they are good to go unless it ends up in the Federal arena, ie Family Court etc)

    This would of course require an ‘agreement’ on both sides of the House so that they could never be held to account under law. Lest one side use the MHA for purposes of, for example, the forced sterilization of children without parental consent, and when the other side take the reigns they bring these crimes to the attention of the public.

    Thus they need both immunity AND an agreement from the opposition to maintain silence.

  • “The so-called lack of capacity is itself used to deny legal capacity, specifically when a person refuses treatment or there is a perception of danger to self or to others (Bartlett, 2003;Glover-Thomas, 2011;McSherry and Wilson, 2011). It is also worth noting that mental and legal capacity are notions often muddled in many professionals’ minds.”

    This quote from one of the articles linked to above seems to explain some of what I am saying.

    The claim that my ‘mental capacity’ was insufficient (ie I disagreed with my wife and thus lack mental capacity [which seems strange, she is the one with the milk crate full of psychiatric drugs]) means that any legal right to bodily integrity or right to liberty no longer exists. So at that point I can be ‘spiked’ with benzos and subjected to hours of torture and kidnapped because I no longer maintain my legal capacity (ie police can’t find their copy of the Criminal Code and these serious criminal offences are now considered ‘civil matters’ because a psychologists name is in the mix somewhere) Not that I was a “patient” or anything, we didn’t even know if my ‘mental capacity’ was actually affected. I was simply transported (kidnapped) to find out if it was (ie asssessment by a psychiatrist finds no mental illness) and …… phew, it wasn’t. Shame my life had to be ‘fuking destroyed’ for that though.

    So my legal capacity has not actually been removed, these were of course crimes, and my mental capacity was deemed fine and dandy once they tortured and kidnapped me. Unfortunately police find their involvement by providing the Community Nurse with a referral a little embarrassing because of their interrogation of me whilst I was stupefied without my knowledge with a date rape drug and so………they find it much more convenient to work with the criminals (we can call them public officers if you will but their actions are those of criminals) ad openly discriminate against me whilst I am murdered in an Emergency Dept.

    Even more fortunate are the levels of threats and intimidation that witnesses and the victim can be subjected to (despite this being refoulment under the Convention).

    The actions of police in these matters is possibly more disgusting than anything done by mental health services, the equivalent of the cop who handed back a victim to Jeffrey Dahmer, or the way that Jamal Kashoggi received his ‘paperwork’ at the Saudi Consulate in Turkey. But where do you turn when you have been tortured by police and mental health services? Not the Attorney General, he hands you back to the torturers and suggests your a nutjob. Not the Human Rights Commission, the discrimination by police denying you your rights nowhere near as important than ensuring that a gay person can have a wedding cake baked by a discriminatory baker. Sorry, they’re way too busy to worry about citizens (especially disabled ones) being killed in hospitals for convenience.

    The documents I have show I had both my mental and legal capacity, neither ever removed from me. These criminals set me up to create the appearance I had no legal capacity, and then tried to have my mental capacity removed. When I pointed out that I actually had a legal right to not be treated in this manner, they doubled down and began a process of ‘fuking destroying’ me using the fraud and slander of mental health services, DESPITE being fully aware that what they were doing was criminal.

    I wonder how many others have been murdered in this manner. I do hope someone had the ability to recognise that what I am saying could be true, despite the slander I have been subjected to. The two are not necessarily related, and my mental capacity has certainly been affected by being subjected to years of psychological torture (commonly referred to as gaslighting) by State sanctioned actors.

  • “During the past two years they kept repeating a new one ‘there’s no stigma in having a mental illness’. Good luck getting that one through to the keeper.”

    How delusional do people have to be to think that if they say something then it’s true? Oh wait, were talking about psychiatry not cricket lol These are people who have manufactured a reality for the public that is resulting in significant damage to the health of a large number of people. The similarity to the “Torches of Freedom” campaign by Eddie Bernays is striking (pun intended lol).

    Old Iron Gloves Marsh would have been out of a job if he were waiting for that one to come through.

    Yes the tattoos have been replaced with modern technology. I think people would be shocked if they knew how much their privacy is actually being violated, and they will be slandered with labels if they even speak about it. The Surveillance Devices Act got more holes than TPC Malaysia lol

  • There is something about this article which just doesn’t sit right with me. I’ll do my best to explain why, and hopefully someone can explain what it is I am not seeing.

    The article speaks about “persons with disabilities” (PwDs) but then takes it as given that these PwDs are engaged in a doctor/patient relationship.

    I can be a PwD but NOT be a “patient”? Surely just because I am in a wheelchair does not mean I am engaged in a doctor/patient relationship? I can be blind but not require the services of a doctor?

    So here lies my problem. I get it that if I were a PwD in a wheelchair AND in a doctor/patient relationship that the doctor could take me to a cliff face and wheel me off and call it ‘medical care’ or ‘help’, and that my recourse in the law would be civil action (because of the doctor/patient relationship the matter is NOT a criminal one. See above). He could defend his actions by claiming that just because I can’t walk, maybe if they throw me at the ground and I miss, I can fly. Fairly recognizable logic for anyone who has been exposed to psychiatric services.

    But what about the situation where I am wheeling myself down the street and a doctor notices my ‘disability’ and takes me to a cliff face and wheels me off? I AM a PwD, but I had not entered a relationship with this doctor other than to be unfortunate enough to pass him/her in the street, and therefore the matter is a criminal one where there has been an assault on my person.

    Of course in my State the police recognising that you are in a wheelchair would also know that this means they can not find their copy of the Criminal Code, and that they will give doctor time to go and tamper with the paperwork and make you into a “patient” so that the matter becomes a civil one.

    This discrimination by police allowing doctors the ability to unintentionally negatively outcome people in the Emergency Dept before anyone notices that the matters were criminal and NOT civil.

    This was of course the problem faced by the people who tortured and kidnapped me, I was NOT a “patient” by definition of the Mental Health Act, and therefore the means used to get me the ‘help’ I didn’t require, for an illness I didn’t have were criminal matters. Police by retrieving the proof of the crimes and allowing them time to make some ‘alternative arrangements’ and “edit” the legal narrative to suit made the matters become ‘civil matters’. Murdering someone on the street a crime, doing it in the Emergency Dept it becomes something police find that it “might be best they don’t know about” and is a ‘civil matter’.

    So basically, and I ask this in all sincerity, the situation is one where PwDs can be slaughtered despite not being in the care of a doctor/patient relationship and police will look the other way because these are ‘civil matters’? Or at least as I have explained on numerous occasions the documents can be “edited” to take the matters outside the criminal realm and made into ‘civil matters’ post hoc? (care to see the “edited” documents and the ‘legal protection’ being afforded by our Chief Psychiatrist? Contact me).

    I guess my point relates to the fact that I may have been considered a PwD but was NOT a “patient”. Does this mean that any member of the community can then engage in what ARE criminal acts against me, and police will deny me my rights as a citizen (Article 12 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities requires states parties to ensure that persons with disabilities “enjoy legal capacity on an equal basis with others in all aspects of life”. For example not being ‘spiked’ with benzos and tortured for refusing to speak to a psychologist or murdered in a hospital and calling it an unintended negative outcome because they won’t get a lawyer to bring civil action against a doctor, and police will look the other way, nay in fact will assist by delivering the person for the ‘treatment’).

    This makes the Office of the Chief Psychiatrist look like the Office of Jewish Affairs under Adolf Eichmann. Surely we haven’t regressed to that state yet? Perhaps some clever person here would care to go through the complaint lodged with the Chief Psychiatrist and his response? Because to me if the person who is charged with protecting our human rights doesn’t know what the protections are, there is a serious problem. Protecting psychologists who are arranging ‘spikings’ and kidnappings by allowing the “editing” of legal narratives seems a little …….. discriminatory and arbitrary.

    And do keep in mind that it is difficult to bring civil action (lower burden of proof, but not a chance you will find any assistance) for a ‘mistake’ under the Assisted Dying Act, especially when your outcomed, and the documents can be “edited” post hoc. Not a lawyer in town would provide any assistance bringing action against a doctor. They would be ‘fuking destroyed’.

    And I also note that with mental health services the drugs actually cause the disability. Imagine, I can show you how to disable someone before they even get the chance to be assessed by a psychiatrist (see the use of a ‘chemical restraint’ by an Authorised Mental Health Practitioner in a police station to ‘coerce’), and then once in their ‘care’ well….. the sky really is the limit.

  • Their tactics are known about, and are precisely what I was subjected to as well. “We’ll fuking destroy you” I was told by the operations Manager who did a ‘formal investigation” of my complaint about being kidnapped (I was unaware for 6 weeks aftet the kidnapping that I had been ‘spiked’ as well, so that part of my complaint had not been fully formulated at that time). Interesting that an FOI application identified 1 document relating to the investigation, and they must inform you of any other documents that exist even if they do not provide them to you. It was as a result of this ‘formal investigation’ that they knew which documents needed to be retrieved before sending the fraudulent set to the Mental Health Law Center. And well, I won’t even begin to talk about what happened in the ED, even police are of the opinion that “it might be best we don’t know about that”.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-20/whistleblowers-reveal-paedophile-ring-in-newcastle-anglicans/7645228

    Not that anyone is providing any protection or help for those who dare even mention there might be something amiss at these places. I wonder how many victims of church abusers were dealt with by this guy who was acting as Senior Medical Officer, because he was well positioned to target anyone who dared talk about his ‘colleagues’ misbehavior towards children. Ensuring they were labelled and drugged to conceal any inconvenient truth would be an ideal way of ensuring they were silenced. Like who is going to look anyway. Collateral damage.

    Still, he has an Order of Australia medal and is in good company with the likes of Rolf Harris (the octopus) and I wonder about other ‘clubs’ he may be involved with.

  • Now keep in mind this is the same Senior Medical Officer who has written a prescription for the date rape drugs he knew I had been ‘spiked’ with hours before he even met me. His concealment of criminal conduct by doing this fairly obvious (how aware of the method used to kidnap me is unclear). This and his three minute interview which resulted in me obtaining a ‘provisional diagnosis’ of three major metal illness’ (later found to have been cured once the real psychiatrist examined me properly). He was clearly aware I was not a “patient” as he needed to obtain a file from “archives” before demonstrating his confusion in his notes.

    This is not looking good.

    Luckily he spends most of his time in the Adolescent Unit so at least he prefers his drugged with date rape clients younger than me.

    And really fortunate that no one seems to care about his conduct, or is it that his ability to dispose of any formal complaints made about his conduct is ensuring that he gets to do whatever he likes, and the Operations Manager will ‘fuking destroy’ anyone who dares even raise the issue?

    Thanks for your help guys. You keep right on slandering me. It saves you having to look and see what the Operations Manager saw before destroying my family using her position as a representative of the State. “go along to get along” huh?

  • “After reading up on the Act when I left hospital I saw that several provisions in the law are routinely circumvented by staff and It’s done with impunity”

    I know I saw a number of ways used to get around the problem of patients rights. Having the nurse call whoever the doctor couldn’t approach and then putting the call through to them meant that the direction of the call made what would be considered unethical appear fine.

    One of the greatest exploits used is to not inform people of certain things and then use that as a justification for any actions taken. For example the doctor who assaulted me didn’t inform me that he wasn’t a psychiatrist and therefore had no right to be forcing me to remove my clothes and then insert objects into my mouth or anus without consent (I was after all a ‘referred person’ and not a ‘patient’ and still had my right to consent [though not my right to liberty] until that may be removed by a psychiatrist). By not informing me of his role and designated authority he could claim that he had ‘implied consent’ as I had gone along with his request when he asked me to go to a little room with him while he assaulted me. The problem was that I had been informed by a “patient” that this man was NOT a psychiatrist (he is however a priest) but simply a Senior Medical Officer. Thus I stated clearly to him that he did not have any right to be touching me and that any such conduct would constitute an assault. He started shaking, and then under threat of restraint he continued with the examination. The documents prove the assault [my complaint form that was thrown into the bin my proof I refused to consent along with the witnessing nurses notes], though there is the issue of intent and purpose regarding the sexual nature of it, ie the insertion of objects into my person when I had expressly denied that right. So the sexual assault proving he is a rapist difficult, the physical assault easy. (awww that’s right police can’t find their copy of the Criminal Code so…… I guess he gets away with it too)

    It’s an exploit that is used all the time, and of course your at a distinct disadvantage when they have people who will stomp on your head to have you ‘comply’ with their desires. Get your gear off, I’d like to have a little touch.

    I guess like other institutions where abuses run rampant for many years with no one ever really being held to account, these places attract abusers like a magnet. They tend to shuffle them around here rather than dealing directly with the issue. Staff, even poor ones, difficult to come by I suppose. Mental patient molestation sabbaticals and a Minister who says “you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” lol

  • Hi again Bill

    “Nobody has any rights within psychiatry whatsoever.”

    This is of course not such a bad thing. I get it that you and I might feel bad about it from our perspective but … consider that it really is a means to stop any whistleblowers from speaking up against our Great Leaders who provide us with protection from the bogey man waiting to kill us at every turn. Imagine what would happen if people were allowed to leave the police and tell us what sort of activities are being concealed from the public? Better they are ‘treated’ before speaking up, and we can ensure that their delusional beliefs are silenced at every turn. Also very important this is done to ensure that it is seen by others to ensure they get the message.

    I just read over a couple of articles relating to the ‘mental health’ of police after a number of self inflicted gun shot wounds, and notice the lack of the use of any reference to ‘mental health’, though they do seem to use the term ‘services’ a lot. I note when they stomp on “patients” heads and run them down with cars to get them the ‘services’ they need there is always mention of the ‘mental illness’ of the “patient”.

    From the Union

    “We are satisfied that the services are available for members out there when they require them, but what we want to do is encourage members and their colleagues, if they see any signs, if they think that there is a problem or they do need help, to actually put up their hand and ask for that assistance”

    See “signs” of what? Mental ill health? And of course police are ideally positioned to see what happens to people who “access services” lol It’d be like saying “Can I spend my long service leave in a SuperMax? The food looks delicious.”

    I find the way these matters are presented to be more than interesting. They can’t quite remove the stigma but do try to make it appear that the trauma suffered by these officers results in a different type of ….. need for services, where the MH and MI words are not uttered.

    “Even checks and balances mandated under the Act are summarily ignored if requested.”

    Isn’t it great to hear ScoMo talking about how Australians value a Rule of Law and then being subject to a system where the law is totally ignored? The ‘protections’ afforded the public by the law totally ignored by those charged with ensuring those protections? A Chief Psychiatrist putting in writing that he doesn’t understand a simple burden of proof in the Act, and yet he boasts that he provides “expert legal advice to the Minister”? A first year law student would know better, and would cost us significantly less. In fact the Community Nurse who tortured and kidnapped me is certainly aware of the protections afforded by the Act, because he knows how to commit serious offences to get around them. It is fortunate for him that the levels of negligence ensure his criminal conduct goes unpunished, and that the large numbers of his victims end up being ‘fuking destroyed’ should they dare complain about his misconduct. The boldness of these organised criminals really does show how far the State has regressed in their duty to protect the public from abusers. They are prepared to engage in acts to pervert the course of justice to ensure that these criminals are enabled, and now seek to be excused judicial oversight lest their complicity ion these offences results in them being imprisoned should a moral and ethical leader ever turn up.

    Covering up for criminals when it can be shown you knew of the offences obviously a worry for those doing the concealment of the crimes. So rather than do their statutory duty, they instead attempt to be derelict in their duty with plausible deniability. Unintended negative outcomes being one good example. The proverbial blind eye. This of course requires a level of trust among the co conspirators which may include senior police and other ‘pillars pf protections’. And trust is not a resource these people have a lot of, given that they are regular exploiters of the trust of others. Et tu Brute?

    “They do as they please, even using ‘treatment’ as punishment.”

    I actually completed a Complaint Form alleging serious misconduct and a breach of the Convention against the use of Torture whilst in the locked ward, when I had the status of “referred person” (note the significance of the status). I fortunately have a copy of the Complaint because the doctor who I made the complaint about ‘reviewed’ my complaint and then disposed of it in the rubbish bin. The importance of this should not escape the reader. Not only is is a serious criminal offence under the Corruption and Crime Commission Act (dispose of document that may be required by the Commission) but it is also one I would find very easy to prove. Bad news is that the respect for the Rule of Law is a little sub standard despite the claim by our Prime Minister, and our police would arrest someone for having proof they were the victims of crime, or refer them to mental health services for the ‘punishment’ you speak of. Not unlike the children returned to institutions for complaining to police about being raped, only to be locked in very small cages and repeatedly assaulted by the very rapists they complained about. Good news is the truth did eventually come out, an that is what these people are afraid of. It’s not the present that worries them, they feel secure in their abusing as a result of the protection of their colleagues via negligence. Untouchables, but not forever.

    So I ask you to keep documenting your history with ‘services’ given your ability to do so, and that you know of so many who do not. Those who are being left in agonizing pain while the nurse who set them up sits in the safety of the station smiling about the pain they have caused the ‘patient’.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUvcmGbtHWA

    It’s not all doom and gloom, there were some “Happy Nazis”.

    Important we study the psychology of perpetrators? It would seem they beat us to it, and they find themselves once again being led astray. It was always bound to happen. Only in a great country could an unemployed house painter and draft dodger become leader lol. There is hope yet.

  • Interesting that our government is trying to remove any judicial oversight of their actions. Not surprising given the laws they are passing knowing they are human rights violations and not wanting to be held to account for the deaths and destruction somewhere down the track when they are ‘holidaying’ on their new yachts on the Mediterranean.

    Heaven forbid that their cover ups are exposed and the joint enterprise be seen for what it is. If nothing else I at least hope we learned enough from the Royal Commission into Child Abuse to recognise the need for keeping good records about our experiences, in spite of the “editing” of realities to conceal their human rights abuses, and the claims of “insufficient evidence” when they refuse to examine the proof of these crimes.

    What kind of fools do they take us for? Is there more than one kind?

    I guess they have resolved the issue of what to do when someone expresses a wish to commit suicide, pass an “assisted dying” law. Why fight the flow of the water, as Sun Tzu says. It will always settle at the lowest point, so use that power. And if they want drugs? Give them drugs, and plenty of them.

  • I was considering the way news items are presented to the public “Police stomp on Mentally Ill Mans Head” etc. Like somehow the fact that it is a mentally ill person changes the situation.

    Police Stomp on Patients Head?

    Funny how we don’t seem to hear a lot of complaining from German mental patients about their treatment. This could mean a number of things of course.

    And speaking about “there’s safety in numbers”. As Jimmy Carr once said “Tell that to the millions of people who didn’t make it out of the camps in Germany”

  • These are the people my government is ‘recruiting’, and it explains why our system is being corrupted at a rate the public is going to be shocked by. I guess they have to go somewhere when the UK government is dealing with them, and so hello sunny Australia.

    I sat considering the recruiting of an extra 800 police as a campaign strategy last night. Pictures on the tv of old people being beaten in their homes followed by our politicians telling us how they will make money available for more police. The problem being that those 800 police don’t go far when they are being used as foot servants of the politicians to provide them with ‘security’ for their paranoid delusions that everyone is out to get them, and not to provide protection for these people left to be targets of the thugs who are being dealt drugs by doctors. But it does all sound ‘reasonable’ when they put it like that huh?

    Numbers do not equal quality of service, and in fact may have the opposite effect when human rights abuses are being enabled via the negligence of those charged with protecting the public.

    800 extra police is 800 police to be used to snatch people from their beds and torture them because a doctor wants it done. And the negligence of those charged with protecting the public will ensure that is the task they will be put to.

    Good speech by Ms Reeves there streetphotobeing.

  • “We have a duty as psychiatrists not to brush over these inconvenient episodes, but to face them, understand them, and learn from them, so we never repeat those horrors.”

    This from your last article.

    Now my question relates to where in the above you mention the brutality of forced treatment. It seems you talk about ‘products’ and ‘market forces’, but where among that is the boot to the back of your head if you refuse to eat the Big Mac instead of the Whopper? Why have you ‘brushed over’ this rather inconvenient truth about the use of terrorist tactics to enforce this ideology on the community when the grooming of ‘product placements’ fails?

    Of course I don’t expect an answer, your writing your own history here. Sure people have for the most part stopped smoking these days as a result of the facts being known, and I hope the same can be said of these drugs that are doing significant damage some day too. Marlboro Man replaced by Prozac Pete as a symbol of the money made by charlatans and frauds at the expense of the health of others. Though I never saw people being gang tackled and forced to light up because they wished to maintain their health when others could profit from their addictions. No lawsuits for my passive Prozac use as a result of being around others using the ‘products’. (though perhaps the fact I can be ‘spiked’ with benzodiazepines without my knowledge before State sanctioned interrogations a means to have me consume the drugs? Especially when the State is allowing doctors to prescribe these drugs 12 hours after they were administered without knowledge to ‘patient’s they haven’t even met? Why not start forcing people into drinking alcohol too by putting into their ‘consumables’ without their knowledge?).

    Our Prime Minister describing the concealing of items in peoples food as being disgraceful and toughening up on the criminal offence, and yet then on the other hand allowing doctors the right authorise [post hoc I might add] the ‘spiking’ of citizens with date rape drugs to allow them to be subjected to acts of torture on the other? “Editing” the documents to slander the victims as being paranoid delusional having the precise effect you mention of doing psychological harm to the victims of these mental health professionals who are after all not being held to account for their criminal conduct.

    We have got to the stage in my country where citizens can be snatched from their beds by police after being ‘spiked’ and made into mental patients before anyone even leaves the hospital. My documents show my status changed from citizen to “outpatient” as a result of a telephone call, police summoned to assist in detaining a ‘mental patient’ with a knife (hence the need to drop me with the ‘spiking’ because it is difficult to plant items on someone who is conscious) and the appropriate fraud on the sworn statements manufactured to ensure anyone who looked falsely believed there were “reasonable grounds” for detention and forced drugging. So i’m with you in some sense, I can’t see the public putting up with this sort of conduct for too long. The National Socialists in Germany didn’t last too long, and they were a little better at it than the government we have, so I hope for some rapid changes once their arbitrary detentions, torture and ‘unintentional negative outcoming’ of whistleblowers is exposed. They will of course double down at first by increasing significantly the numbers of police with false claims of a need, with the intention of what use they will be put to concealed from the public. The ‘added protections’ method of putting more boots on more necks.

    Seems the duty you spoke of in part 1 got lost somewhere in translation Doc.

  • “Psychiatry failed us; it nearly killed us, and vocal ex-patients are a small minority of psychiatry’s abject failure.”

    Yes, most of the unintended negative outcomes no longer have a voice……. or a heart beat for that matter. And whilst means and opportunity may be easily identified, any copper will tell you that you’ll never establish motive (particularly when police will retrieve any documented proof of a motive. Documented torture and kidnapping? We’ll have them back thanks) unless they confess. And with that “sophisticated knowledge of the law” that isn’t going to happen. And even when it has, prosecution of someone who does confess to ending the life of a “patient” is “not in the public interest” (see the case of Dr Alida Lancee). Sad that a citizen can be made into a “patient” with “edited” documents post hoc, well it is for the “edited patient” not the doctor, and police will actively assist in the process of ensuring no action is taken. Amazing what can be done by a doctor (nay, even a Community Nurse) who calls police and requests assistance with their “patient” who just happens to have collapsed as a result of being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and had a knife planted on them for police to find. Set Ups being authorised by the Minister in the name of getting citizens the ‘help’ they don’t need for ‘illnesses’ they don’t have. And we have allowed these people to pass legislation allowing them to administer lethal injections? Combine that with the ability to “edit” documents post hoc (Just a not, “editing” legal narrative to conceal crimes is not really by definition “editing” but these are people who prefer euphemisms such as unintended negative outcomes rather than they killed the person by snapping their neck during a ‘restraint’.)

  • And in a country with arbitrary detentions it could all start again at any time. Might be safer in China, at least they have to watch what they’re doing in regard human rights abuses, not a soul prepared to stand up and say anything regarding abuses in this country. They’d end up being unintentionally negatively outcomed.

    I laughed when I heard that 2 journalists had left China fearing that they could be arbitrarily detained for their political beliefs. Take a look at what was done to me for mine. No not my preference for a political party but my beliefs about Electric Shock Therapy being ‘medicine’. These journalists realise they could be ‘medicated’ without their knowledge and then have items ‘planted’ on them to obtain a police referral and render moot the protections against the use of torture? If not they should come and speak …. oh wait, they have families that can be threatened by police, should they dare to speak the truth regarding the uses the Mental Health Act is being put to by the State.

    You will answerer the question, maybe not for police, but they have given you to us, and your refusal will require an injection of the burning flesh until you do answer their questions, and they can stand and wait until you do. All done in the station before delivery to the ‘clean up service’ where they authorise the ‘spikings’ post hoc and distribute the fraudulent documents. No need for a psychiatrist, you have demonstrated a need for a ‘chemical restraint’ by your aggressive looks, and your thoughts of harming others which we noticed when we read your mind. And of course what choice does this leave a psychiatrist when he/she does finally get to ‘assess’ you? Your illness should be obvious to them by this point after you have been subjected to hours of torture at the hands of the preparation team.

    You didn’t realise you were a “patient”? That’s fine, we just said that to get police to attack you and ‘soften you up’ for the interrogation. And well, we can’t have anyone noticing that you weren’t so here’s a set of documents we “edited” to make it look like you have been a “patient” for ten years, try getting any help from your former friends now traumatised mental patient? What friends? Here, let us just wipe a bit more of the stink of mental health services to you before they call us and we explain your ‘issues’.

    It was all a terrible accident, after an accident, after an accident, after an accident, …… and well, the public is aware of how incompetent mental health services are. They simply need more money and they promise the ‘accidents’ will stop.

  • “How do these people who have no conscience and act so dark and sinister manage to work in health care.”

    By taking copious amounts of drugs? Drinking themselves into a stupor each night (which was patently apparent with the Community Nurse who tortured and kidnapped me. They had to ‘spike’ me, his was self inflicted).

    https://www.nine.com.au/entertainment/latest/australian-crime-stories-adam-shand-colin-manock/27be09c6-c0aa-4dc6-b5e0-61397a2ac720

    Or maybe like this guy who liked to ‘assist’ in putting people into prison wrongly and no one noticed for 27 years that he wasn’t even qualified for the job, spend a bit of time with Ms Lash to punish you for your wrongdoing? Good to see he finally did the right thing and married her. And was she cheaper than a psychiatrist I wonder?

  • “Sadly, I had rescinded my authorization for doctors to share medical information with my family,”

    Boans sits and ponders living in a place where such rights are respected. My medical records were “edited” and then distributed without my consent and as a means to slander someone they knew had been subjected to an act of torture and kidnapped. The ‘weapons’ available to these people to conceal their misconduct are quite possibly an explanation for the large number of suicides their ‘services’ are correlated with.

    “Since when do someone’s side effects invalidate his or her human rights?”

    Since the moment you enter into a doctor patient relationship, and provided ‘implied consent’? (you asked for ‘help’, sorry if your of the opinion this isn’t helpful. Your opinion simply doesn’t count) You just lost your right to consent and are unlikely to notice until you use the word “no”. Then your about to get a lesson in the psychological trauma of ‘coercion’ (drugged without your knowledge [with date rape drugs] and threatened with weapons until you say yes). Of course it’s not torture because of the “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” loophole in the Convention against the use of Torture. As a “patient” what would be considered torture becomes an act of kindness to you. Not unlike cutting your chest open to do an operation on your heart, but without the lawful need for consent because the patient is unconscious. To a psychiatrist we are all non compus mentis with our eyes open.

    Now consider the effect this could have if you had the ability to make a citizen into a “patient” AFTER you have subjected them to acts of torture? It conceals the torture and allows you to slander the victims as anosognosic ‘mental patients’. And we all know from the Minister that no matter how much they complain, “you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”.

    So in my State when the police use torture, they simply ‘flag’ anyone who complains for immediate referral to mental health services for ‘refoulment’ with an unintended negative outcome. We provide services to people from other countries who have been traumatised by acts of torture, and provide a label and copious amounts of drugs to anyone we subject to acts of torture and call them “patients” to conceal our human rights abuses. It creates the appearance that ‘they’ torture and ‘we’ don’t. Well we do, but under normal circumstances the victims don’t ever get the chance to be heard. In many cases they can be Stockholmed and will assist in their destruction by taking the drugs willingly.

    Consider your use of the term “side effect” for example. It’s a verbal trap. Your assuming something to be using that term, that the unwanted effect was not doctors intention. How would you prove it if a doctor was injecting you with a cocktail that was intended to make your skin feel like it was burning and they claimed it was a side effect? And you had no choice but to take the drugs? And he/she simply smiled at you when you suggested to them that they were deliberately harming you? Police don’t even bother asking because they know they would need a confession that the intent was to harm, which they would not obtain. In fact your complaint would be considered grounds for referral to mental health services for ‘treatment’ And I met one young man who resorted to putting a pistol in his mouth and pulling the trigger, taking a big piece of his face in the process, just to have the forced drugging stopped.

    Things haven’t been this good since the Inquisition lol Even Mengele had a burden of proof placed on him by the National Socialists (hence the need for “editing” the documents with a match when someone from outside wanted to look). In my State they simply “edit” the documents after the fact and make the complainant a “patient” requiring ‘treatment’. Cover ups provide the State with the ability to violate human rights and turn away anyone who dares question their authority.

    You have the right to remain silent, but quite possibly not he ability to when being subjected to ‘treatment’ for exercising that right. The ‘side effects’ will stop when you answer the questions, maybe.

  • The “edited” documents provided to the Mental Health Law Centre make the protections really easy to understand. I mean the hospital wasn’t exactly going to provide the unredacted documents showing that I had been tortured and kidnapped to people who have a good understanding of mental health law. Even if it meant calling an act of criminal fraud “editing”.

    A ‘citizen’ ‘spiked’ with benzos is jumped by police in his bed as a result of a Community Nurse lying to them and falsely claiming he requires assistance with his “patient”. Police conveniently find the knife and cannabis that has been ‘planted’ for them to find and make it lawful to take the ‘citizen’ into custody and then make immediate referral to the waiting Community Nurse. Kind of clever really because the Community Nurse couldn’t just turn up at my home and start interrogating me because he wanted to, he would need a reason. And the Stooge Police provided him with that reason.

    Though the documents that my legal representatives had a right to view were of course not provided. Instead they got a set showing a “patient” of ten years who is obviously a paranoid delusional complaining about being drugged without his knowledge is making false claims about a highly trained and ethical Community Nurse who did his duty to the community and put this dangerous drug abusing wife beating nut job behind bars (amazing what can be achieved with a ‘verbal’ eh? A life of service to my community destroyed by some criminal who has been in the country no time at all and is setting up criminal links from his public sector position).

    So the Law Centre makes a complaint to the Chief Psychiatrist based on those fraudulent documents, and the Chief Psychiatrist responds. Though the Law Centre doesn’t have time to read the response of the Chief Psychiatrist which is really lucky because they would certainly recognise that he was negligent in his duty, and had rewritten the protections of the Act, wouldn’t they?

    I have a suspicion that the Chief Psychiatrist didn’t write that letter at all but …… it was written as a poison pen letter by my very own human rights legal representative seeking favor with the Minister. That would certainly explain why the “third pillar” unread the letter and ran away. They have been pretending to be the Chief Psychiatrist and running a fixed game to throw anyone who complains about being tortured and kidnapped under a bus.

    Lure with bait, strike with chaos.

    People go to the Law Centre thinking they will be assisted when they have been the victims of public sector misconduct. The Law Centre finds out “what they got” and then works with the State to ensure that their client is denied any right to remedy. They then hand over a letter they prepare themselves and psychologically gaslight the victims with poison. The Minister then ensures that the matter is referred to her office and ensures the fraud is not unearthed ( “I got this one C.P. A real problem when police failed to retrieve the documents I have and I start turning up in a police station with proof I was tortured and kidnapped. Knee jerk referral of victims of crimes to the criminals for ‘treatments’) And in the process they start slandering their now ex client (sorry we can’t help you, hope the knife in the back doesn’t hurt too much. Like my new BMW?) with the “edited” documents that have been provided by their co conspirators (the hospital concerned).

    Of course I’m mad and they would do no such thing right?

    Care to look at the documents just in case?

    Gee I’d be angry if I were the Chief Psychiatrist and people were sending out letters like that and putting my name to them. He might even start having “thoughts of harming others” and be a candidate for the Community Nurse to ‘spike’ him and obtain a police referral. “yeah sure your the Chief Psychiatrist, and I’m Prince Charming, now shaddup and drop your drawers, we going to give you a little medicine now”. Your the one that said it was fine lol

  • Okay I’ll do my best to keep it brief.

    In my State there are laws which provide protections for the public and which have been fairly well drafted. The problem being the people charged with fulfilling the role of the watchdogs simply neglect that role, and this ensures that abuses can run rampant and the systemic failures can be used as a call for more funds to fix what they are breaking.

    Our Chief Psychiatrist who provides “expert legal advice to the Minister” and who is charged with the “protection of consumers, carers and the community” doesn’t even know what a burden of proof in law is (“suspect on reasonable grounds”). My question to the Minister was, how could he possibly be protecting “consumers, carers and the community” when he isn’t even aware of what the protections of the law are?

    So I wrote to one of the other “pillars of protection” (there are 3. Council of Official Visitors) and provided his letter to them, along with an explanation of why he was enabling arbitrary detention and torture, and they wrote back saying they would take the issue up with him at their weekly meeting. They then returned my letters and made the claim they had unread them and sorry your not a “patient” so we can’t provide you with any assistance. Basically we will look the other way while they kick you to death.

    Okay, so I get snatched from my bed by police and then have a mental health worker (Community Nurse) fill out a fraudulent statutory declaration and am then delivered to a locked ward, and interrogated for 7 hours and not informed I have been ‘spiked’ with benzos without my knowledge. I consider myself to have a right to complain. Not so the people who provide protections against this sort of thing say, they tell me they will “fucking destroy” me for complaining, and believe me, that they did, with the full assistance of the people who are supposed to be protecting me and my family.

    So what would having rules/laws by Federal authorities change about this situation? Just another layer of negligence to ensure that the victims of these people are fuking destroyed? I felt ‘protected’ by the laws we have, and when I tried to speak to the Community Nurse about his vile conduct and said I would have something done about it, he laughed. he finds it funny that someone might have something done about his torture sessions and kidnappings. And he is right to find it funny, because the ‘protections’ are a joke.

    I understand that my comments about the law must seem confusing, that has been done deliberately. I have had human rights lawyers psychologically attack me in their assisting the State to conceal their acts of torture and kidnapping. They simply deny that the law even exists and have left me trying to explain the protections of the MHA to the people who wrote it.

    Seems simple to me now.

    If a public officer “suspects on reasonable grounds” that a person should be an “involuntary patient” then they can make a referral to a psychiatrist for an examination.

    Who should be an “involuntary patient”? That is set out in s. 26 of the Act and called Criteria. If the person meets the Criteria [there are 4] then a referral can be made, if not your kidnapping that person. I did not meet the Criteria, but they refuse to examine the details of the fraudulent documents used to create the appearance that I did. Criteria 1 is that the person “must have a mental illness” (defined in the Act). I did not meet that definition, I was not a “patient” but ….. who cares, someone went to the trouble of ‘spiking’ me, and planting a knife on me for police to find, who then provide a referral to mental health services. All very …. criminal but police tell me they can’t find their copy of the Criminal Code and thus I will be arrested for having the documents proving what I am saying.

    Of course the Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the burden to “need only ‘suspect’ on grounds he believes to be reasonable that a person requires an assessment by a psychiatrist”. These are commonly called “suss laws” and are a violation of human rights, but don’t usually involve incarceration and forced drugging as a consequence, it’s usually the area of ‘stop and search’ which only results in brain damage from the boots of police and not being ‘spiked’ with drugs.

    I’m sure that you would know someone at Harvard who knows what burden of proof in law is? You know, like a first year law student? I mean it really shouldn’t be that difficult for our Chief Psychiatrist but …. hey maybe he was just trying to psychologically harm me with his letter? How nasty would that be? Lets see if anyone dares to tell the Emperor that he has no clothes. Big fail from the psychiatric sycophants’ who tell me that my complaining about being tortured, kidnapped and having my family destroyed is an illness that I need treatment for.

    Yes, it’s complicated, criminals tend to do that when they are concealing their crimes. And claiming no time to examine the details an even better method of ensuring they continue to harm others. And I assume my claim that these people deliberately tried to psychological harm me and push me to suicide is my issue, and not theirs? Not examining my claim may be resulting in deaths, though what would be done if they DID examine my claim and realised what their negligence had resulted in? More cover ups. They spend more time concealing the truth than they do in pursuit of it.

  • “The question of how to respond when people are really out of control and not amenable to reason is a really difficult one that I do not think we have yet resolved.”

    Put them in a room with a chair each and call it Parliament? lol

    I’d consider drugging me without my knowledge and snatching me out of my bed and taking me against my will to a locked ward being out of control and unreasonable. Especially when I question the ability of a Community Nurse to travel through time and space and read minds as his “reasons” for doing so. Not so our Chief Psychiatrist tells me, logic and reasoning not required, and my “justifiable explanations” for the “observed behaviours” accepted as being “reasonable grounds”. The guy is a filthy corrupt verballer who is completing fraudulent statutory declarations, and harming a lot of people in the process.

    I wasn’t offering “justifiable explainations” I was saying that what he had written could not possibly have occurred if one used a process of logic and reasoning. For example “Not sleeping” (an “observed behaviour”) seems a little rich for someone who knew I had been ‘spiked’ with benzos, was collapsed in my bed and had police jump me with their weapons drawn, thinking what he had said about needing assistance with his “patient” was actually true. Of course I was going to become his “patient” I guess when he had police make a referral to him through his fraud and slander but ….. in the mean time just lie. Okay, a little figurative language in stead of the literal goes a long way when your defrauding the Chief Psychiatrist but …… the whole document could not possibly be defended, so ignore the complaint. They simply don’t like the protections afforded by the Mental Health Act so neglect their duty to examine the burden placed on the filthy scab verballer. mainly because it’s not their lives being destroyed.

    How does one reason with that? Our Chief Psychiatrist thinks the Community Nurse is Dr Who? Care to read his letter?

  • Great article Caroline,

    I once heard a method of dealing with debt collectors who are putting pressure on people to ‘pay up’. Simply tell them that you have a bucket with pieces of paper with the names of all the people you owe money to in it. Each week when your paid, you take names out of the bucket and pay until there is no money left. Then explain to them that if they keep harassing you, you will take their name out of the bucket, and their chances of getting paid will be reduced to zero.

    Seriously though, I have been doing it tough lately and wonder why I am being left in this place where the State is authorising arbitrary detentions, torture, unintended negative outcomes for complaining about public sector misconduct, and they tell me that it is fine that legal narratives are “edited” to ensure that human rights abuses in hospitals are concealed from the public to maintain a good reputation. I’ve no idea how many people are being subjected to these vile acts but ….. I know it is happening and that those charged with ‘protecting’ the public are neglecting their duty. (the amount of breaches of the Convention I can prove is astounding, though the tactic of simply ignoring the victim is highly effective when you have the power to threaten witnesses, and “edit” documents)

    I think about it and wish I could obtain legal representation to have my property returned as I am simply sick and tired of trying to have anyone do something about these abusers they are enabling. Like anyone was going to take action over what was occurring in the ‘camps’ in Germany. Though I then think well, it was the people with the money to bribe that got out, the poor left to suffer the consequences of the insanity. I question if it is Gods will that I be kept in this place while I am continually subjected to abuse for no other reason that trying to ensure these abusers hurt no one else. They (the State) made it very clear they would ‘fuking destroy’ me, and that included my family. Why I have stayed when the jail door has been open I really don’t think I will ever know.

    I think in the end it might be best I sell my gold teeth and use that money to leave, rather than wait for them to unintentionally negatively outcome me and take the teeth anyway. These ‘good people’ know the truth, that was how they managed to conceal it with the fraud. And I live in the hope that there is some place God has in mind for me where those who claim to be ‘health workers’ do not spend their days plotting the fuking destrution of people they have already harmed, and try to deceive others that what they are doing is ‘medicine’.

    I look at the two sets of documents I have showing very different legal narratives, and think about the boasting of our Health Minister about the ‘protections’ of his Euthanasia Act. What I can say is that when the State can go back and “edit” legal narratives to make what was criminal into a lawful act, it’s time for me to leave. Their ‘delousing’ program seems to be having some serious side effects.

    All sounds crazy, and oh how I wish it had been some illness I was suffering from. I would willingly accept their drugs if that had been the case but…… what a disgraceful bunch of people they are. I can’t even begin to think what sort of person investigates a complaint of torture and kidnapping, finds that it’s true, and then goes about psychologically destroying the victim and pushing them to suicide. I say I can’t think of the sort of person, but I met some who were ‘pleasing to the eye’, though had hearts as black as pitch.

    Thanks again Caroline. In as much as I don’t believe God wants anyone to commit suicide, I also don’t think He wants us to be silly enough to put our lives into the hands of abusers. And when they refuse to deal with the abusers within their ranks, the best thing to do is avoid them.

  • “Psychiatry has a dark history that embroiled it with some of the worst human rights atrocities, including active collusion with the eugenics movement and then the Nazis, where it was psychiatrists who first built and operated gas chambers to eliminate lives they deemed were not worth living.

    We have a duty as psychiatrists not to brush over these inconvenient episodes, but to face them, understand them, and learn from them, so we never repeat those horrors.”

    Glossing over the present a bit there Doc? Times were terrible all those years ago, and whilst nowadays things are not perfect…… I don’t think so. The history that is being created currently may not be so ‘pretty’ when we look back and the concealments and cover ups by various States are no longer a matter of political reality.

    A duty not to brush over them?

    After being ‘spiked’ with benzos, having items planted on me for police to find to obtain a police referral and make an act of torture and kidnapping appear lawful, you might be surprised how some of your colleagues react to a complaint, when the facts and documents support what I am saying.

    “Standing outside or refusing to turn in the same direction as the other cogs can cause personal suffering, criticism, and even risk your career and livelihood.”

    In fact it can result in unintended negative outcomes when these people who have become desensitized to the value of human life and do have the stomach for these negative outcomes, threaten to “fucking destroy” you for complaining. Sad that it takes someone from another medical specialty to notice the damage that occurs to the heart from a ‘hotshot’, and who doesn’t have the stomach for it.

    I have been pondering the Inquisition a lot lately, and I guess you say it much better than I do above. But I just can’t help seeing the fact that when your paid by the piece for witches, it makes good sense to lower the standards of what constitutes a witch. Providing the people of the ‘village’ a list of very loosely defined ‘symptoms’ (warts, long noses, made of wood, etc) and the ability to ‘spike’ suspects and plant items on them to have the witch hunters ‘assess’ them (and hopefully not waste their time NOT finding a witch) should work quite well. I’m sure they will notice they have lost their minds at some point (and we can count the loses at some point in the future and talk about the past for now)? The levels of ‘paranoia’ about mental health in my community plain for all to see. And as a silencing mechanism well, ask the Minister for Health who considers any opinions or facts that do not fit with his preferred reality as being worthy of ‘treatment’, and the “editing” of documents to ensure the truth is not made public. Never mind the negligence of those charged with the duty to protect “consumers, carers and the community”. You claim they are rare, care to look at a couple of letters I have here from those charged with the duty? These are not a few ‘bad apples’, the system is rotten to the core.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU

    The similarity between my ‘experience’ and this short video would be funny if it weren’t so true. And the complaints process isn’t that far off either. Burn the complainant, while the authorities turn a blind eye.

    So yeah, lets talk about it openly and honestly until…… well until we don’t like the truth that is told, then we will conceal the truth with falsehoods, and hope that our hypocrisy isn’t noticed until we get out of town.

    Refuse to talk to the police? No problem, we have ‘treatments’ for that, and you CAN be injected with drugs (akathisia being considered a ‘side effect’. Consider the use of “chemical restraints” as a pre assessment preparation, not unlike the nose placed on the witch in the video. And what does the psychiatrist now have to ‘assess’ other than someone naked and dribbling on the floor of a cell?) for refusing to answer a question with mental health services, and police simply stand and wait for their questions to be asked by a Community Nurse. And they claim to have respect for your Constitution, while they violate your human rights? Whatever you do though, don’t complain. You would be surprised at how many people will support the use of torture when their families are being ‘fuking destroyed’ despite the claims of a ‘few bad apples’.

  • No problems Ted,

    “All US states have Protection and Advocacy programs who could advise you, and I urge you to contact them.”

    I’m not in the US which is probably why such human rights abuses are rampant where I live. As far as ‘advocacy’ goes, the legal representatives who advocate for “patients” don’t even wish to point out to our Chief Psychiatrist (who is one of the pillars of protections) that he is not actually allowed to remove a burden of proof from our Mental Health Act without parliamentary approval.

    He has changed the wording from “suspect on reasonable grounds that a person be made an involuntary patient” to “need only ‘suspect’ that a person be referred for an examination by a psychiatrist”. This removes the s. 26 Criteria from the Act, and means anyone can be referred because “tomato”. To me these are two very different burdens, though it did mean he didn’t need to act on what he would have known was a torture and kidnapping of a citizen (thinking the documents had been retrieved by police, and that no one would know what he saw when writing his response. Not unlike police baiting to enable harsh beatings of citizens. These guys do it to “patients”).

    I assume you can see the enabling of ‘suss laws’ for incarceration and forced drugging by these changes? because our highly trained mental health human rights lawyers (Senior Counsel no less) can’t. They don’t wish to tell the Emperor he has no clothes. And of course if the person charged with the protection of “consumers, carers and the community” doesn’t know what protections are afforded the community by the law, how could he possibly enact them? Though I get the feeling it was all done because of a belief that police had retrieved the evidence/proof of the ‘spiking’ and kidnapping, and to further dehumanise a victim of State sanctioned torture. Nice guy huh? Knows I was tortured and kidnapped and tells the Law Centre to hand over his poison pen letter without reading it, leaving the victim to be psychologically harmed by the ‘gaslighting’. Likes to put the boot into victims when they are at their lowest point.

    So these ‘advocates’ in my State are not really ‘advocates’. Their attitude is that as long as they are getting paid they will accept fraudulent documents and throw their clients under a bus at a time most likely to harm them.

    “I can’t quite follow your question and the events behind it.”

    That’s understandable, they did say they would fuking destroy me for complaining about being tortured and kidnapped, and they really went to town on me so I was kind of hoping to have a legal representative speak for me but ……. not a soul prepared to stand up and take a few notes because their families would not be safe if they did. The Law Cnetre did until the asked for the unredacted documents from the hospital and were told in no i=uncertain terms to fuk off. No way they were going to be given documents showing human rights abuses, or that the hospital was going to put in writing why they couldn’t have the real set. “please accept these documents and our request that you join with us in perverting the course of justice. Have a nice day”

    So I sit here with proof of what I’m saying, and no one to assist me in ensuring that no one else gets hurt as a result of these organised criminals operating in our hospitals. It all just got a bit out of hand with them thinking the police might actually notice they arranged to use police as their own personal kidnapping service and …… embarrassment all round really, so get the documented proof back and well. …. you’d probably refer me for speaking the truth anyway. If you’d have seen the face of the lawyer who figured out what the documents meant when she said “But I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof” lol. Woops, and the government doesn’t know and is pretending that …… ooooh this can’t look good. You got life insurance Boans, your going to need it. And yes they already tried, and failed. And what sort of lawyer charges you thousands of dollars to tell you how expensive their time is knowing they can’t help you, because the State isn’t going to allow you access to the Courts because of the fraudulent set of documents?

    Whilst I’m not asking for your assistance as a lawyer (or for ‘legal advice’ per se) you might want to consider the last article by Jim Gottstein on MiA.

    Anyway Ted keep up the good fight, you and I share one thing in common, we both want to see the harm being done to people stopped. And whilst I have been outnumbers and hit over the head from behind before being kicked senseless, I don’t give up that easy.

    Our Premier claims that being asked a question by the media who have more information that him is an “ambush”. He should try being ‘spiked’ with benzos and having a knife planted on him before being jumped in his bed by police with weapons drawn and dragged off to a mental institution because “tomato” (medical kidnappings appear lawful and the authorities cover them up). I think his definition of an ambush is a little soft, and the unintended negative outcomes are not really unintended, they just keep their mouths shut and you can’t prove motive.

    Know how much you can get for every person you can ‘hijack’ (or is the term Shanghai) and provide forced ECTs to on the taxpayers dollar? And all you need to do is ‘flag’ them on the system and then have police pick them up and deliver them for ‘treatment’. No right to remedy, no ‘advocates’ prepared to speak up, police can’t find their copy of the Criminal Code because your no longer human and they’re just doing their job, and any complaint is your illness speaking according to the Minister, despite having the documented proof.

  • Just a point of interest.

    In my State it is illegal to record telephone conversations unless one party is aware that the conversation is being recorded.

    I was wondering if that as a result of my wife and her ‘new man’ tampering with my communications, and her being aware that the telephone was being recorded, this would then release another party from any liability if they happened to have recordings of her conversations with hospital administrators planning on the procurement of suicide? The point being that she was aware that the communications were being recorded, they had conspired to do this, just not aware of WHO it was that was recording?

    288. Procuring etc. suicide
    Any person who —
    (1) Procures another to kill himself; or
    (2) Counsels another to kill himself and thereby induces him to do so; or
    (3) Aids another in killing himself;
    is guilty of a crime, and is liable to imprisonment for life.

    Imagine the “we’ll fuking destroy you” statement in this context? Did they try and push me to suicide? You bet your life they did. Can I prove it?

    Call me paranoid but just because your paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you. They were, after all trying to conceal torture and kidnapping, and had police resources available because of the fraud making me a ‘mental patient’ which is a great help when fuking destroying people.

    Given the large numbers of suicides associated with failed mental health ‘treatments’, I wonder if there may at times be cause of action regarding the negligent procurement of suicide. The Operations Manager who I dealt with has a ‘history’ of pushing people who complain in a certain direction, commonly referred to as ‘gaslighting’ which results in deaths. Of course the benefits to the hospital not necessarily noticeable given their ability to “edit” legal narratives before allowing the victims lawyers the right to access unredacted documents.

  • In fact I was just thinking about this “removed from my medical record and replaced with brief reactive psychosis”

    That is basically what my State allows the hospital to do when they come across human rights abuses, they “edit” the documents before sending them out to legal representatives. So in the first instance when the hospital examined my documents it showed a ‘citizen’ being ‘spiked’ with benzos, having the police told he was a ‘dangerous psycho’ to get them to jump him in his bed and hand him over and make it all look like police wanted the citizen locked up and force drugged.

    Then when they “edited” the documents before handing them over to my lawyers they removed those documents showing that and inserted some other ones making it look like I had been a “patient” of the hospital for 10 years, and that my complaining about being ‘spiked’ became a paranoid delusion because the documents proving the offences disappeared.

    So basically they removed all of their criminal conduct from the set of documents and replaced them with a narrative they preferred and which was no longer a breach of the Convention against the use of Torture, or the Declaration of Human Rights.

    And I didn’t even need to ask them to do that, they did it all for free, and without even telling me or my legal representatives.

    Of course I think it created a bit of a problem when those documents were needed for the Courts, because I don’t think the Federal Courts call that type of tampering with evidence “editing” but ……. what’s a little bit of criminal fraud between friend’s eh? And when the Courts are prepared to work with the people who commit such acts to pervert the course of justice there really is a problem. Though they do need to consider they have families who can have their documents “edited” too, and may find themselves being ‘spiked’ and dribbling in a cell within the hour because “tomato” [a justification for incarceration and forced drugging when the burden of proof protection is removed from the law, as was done by our Chief Psychiatrist, the person charged with protecting the community unaware of what those protections actually are]

  • Mental illness, defined
    (1) For the purposes of this Act a person has a mental illness if the person suffers from a disturbance of thought, mood, volition, perception, orientation or memory that impairs judgment or behaviour to a significant extent.

    (2) However a person does not have a mental illness by reason only of one or more of the following, that is, that the person —
    (a) holds, or refuses to hold, a particular religious, philosophical, or political belief or opinion;
    (b) is sexually promiscuous, or has a particular sexual preference;
    (c) engages in immoral or indecent conduct;
    (d) has an intellectual disability;
    (e) takes drugs or alcohol;
    (f) demonstrates anti-social behaviour.

    This requires a twisting of words to make the exclusions into the illness you want it to be. By this definition a person who sneezes has a mental illness, and thus any protections afforded by the law can be removed at any time. Possibly the reason the UN said our Mental Health Laws were a violation of human rights (arbitrary detentions something done in China, not here), and well, lets not talk about ‘treatments’ being torture. Torture is defined as something they do, what we do is medicine.

    The exclusions in a way are simply a remainder to mental health professionals of what not to attribute the made up illness to. If you don’t like a homosexual but want to lock them up and force drug them, whatever you do don’t write that down as your ‘reasons’, make something else up like oh……… “thoughts of harming others” that you observed with your ability to read minds. This poofter wants to hit me for hating poofters, that’s a mental illness. This black guy hates me for being a member of the Klan, which is my right, and not an illness because its my political belief [see exclusions]. Drug him Danno (Hawaii Five O fans will get it lol)

    And I guess when you examine the definition it disappears in a puff of smoke. It’s a rubber ruler that can be stretched to fit anyone you want it to fit, and made to not fit anyone you don’t. Legally formalised discrimination.

  • “I consider “Mental Health” to be a law unto itself”

    A brief review of the “three pillars of legal protections” (Tribunal, Chief Psychiatrist and Mental Health Advocacy Service [the later being an oxymoron]) in my State reveals this to be so. No matter what, the pea under the three shells always disappears. It’s an old con and if people keep playing the game then they only have themselves to blame, but ….. when the criminals can force you to place a bet on a fixed game???? Different matter entirely.

    Mandatory reporting of public setor misconduct may be a means to hold them accountable, but be sure you don’t ‘show your hand’ too early. They will knife each other in the back if there is a need for a scapegoat. A ‘united front’ with cover ups until…… police ask “who else has got the documents?”

    “..I have full confidence that Dr xxx has not engaged in shoplifting in the past six months..”

    lol and if they did it would be considered kleptomania and not a matter for the courts. A quick ‘sheep dip’ and business as usual.

  • “They can’t portray a two-year-old as a potential mass murderer needing to be “treated.””

    “Potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships” AND “potential for violence, though no clear intent or actual history” (actual quotes).

    We have done the genetic testing on the child and ………. C’mon Steve you know how these people work. Inside every child is a mass murderer, it has just been ‘undiagnosed’ lol. My advice to them is to ‘seek professional help’.

  • “Sexual abuse at places like this is very common.”

    When our Minister for Mental Health was informed of this fact in Parliament she replied, and I quote “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” (to howls from the other members in opposition).

    I find myself at times trying to reconcile the money I hear being directed to the ‘problems’, and what it is we are actually receiving for that money. Maybe the Beatles were right? “Can’t buy me love”? But it can buy a lot of beatings into submission, via some very creative methods disguised as ‘medicine’.

    I guess at least these kids are receiving some ‘advocacy’, which is not available where I live. The State has provided funding for a ‘throw them under a bus service’ called the Mental Health Law Centre who listen to you until they have what they need to ensure you can have your legs taken out form under you, and then dispose of you in a back alley for a beating by the State authorities (isn’t the Venus Fly Trap an interesting plant? It lures the victims in with the hope of sustenance when it is hungry, and then feeds of it after capturing it. Not unlike these ‘legal representatives’ I dealt with who worked with the hospital based on “edited” documents provided concealing the torture and kidnapping. Assist the hospital in removing their human rights being the ‘capture’ and then use that captured individual to obtain further funding. The concealment of the serious public sector misconduct much appreciated by the Minister, and ….. nice new offices. Where is all this money coming from?) . They then join in on the slander to ensure a competent legal representative provides you with no assistance. Not a problem when the ends justify the means, and lawyers can be used as ‘informants’ to conceal acts of torture and kidnapping in the ‘public interest’.

    Good work Ted, and thanks for keeping it real. There are still people being harmed unnecessarily while we talk.

    After becoming involved with mental health services for two months a 13 year old girl

    “stopped at the curb and she turned around to look at us [mother], and she smiled, and she leapt in front of a car, and she hasn’t woken up since,” She has since passed away.

    Any guesses as to what the behaviour was attributed to? A clue. Nothing to do with the ‘treatment’. And our Chef Psychiatrist who doesn’t recognise a burden of proof is to ‘investigate’. Care to see the letter of response regarding my “edited” legal narrative, what he had access to, and what he thought others had access to [two very different stories in the “edited” and the real set of documents]? Of course a need to change tack once they realised police hadn’t retrieved the documents I had showing the ‘spiking’ and use of police to detain a ‘mental patient’ who wasn’t actually a mental patient (s. 336 of the Criminal Code makes it an offense to procure the apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a mental illness, ie lie to the police. Shame police haven’t got a copy of the Criminal Code)

  • Hi Nihil, you write;

    “The psychiatrist and cpn were said to be reliable witnesses, who had both gone out of their way to lie to secure the cto, even completely fabricating a delusion which I apparantly held, that I heard nothing about until the tribunal.”

    Another victim of a ‘verballer’ eh?

    “Verballing is the false attribution of a confession or admission to a suspect. On the evidence before the Royal Commission, the practice of verballing ranged in degree between the fabrication of an entire record of interview or statement, in which a full confession is made, to a subtle change of words to cast greater suspicion on a suspect. Ultimately, if the verbal were contested in court, the police officer involved might commit perjury in support of the false statement.”

    “It was explained to the Royal Commission that an officer might verbal a suspect whom he believed was guilty in order to secure a conviction and that, on other occasions, an officer might verbal a suspect in order to disguise a breach of policing procedures or a failure to take adequate notes of a conversation.”

    “The practice of verballing has some serious implications for the administration of justice. An accused may be convicted wholly or in part on the basis of fabricated evidence, bypassing the checks and balances of the law designed to ensure that each accused has a fair trial.”

    It’s a disgusting practice and the people who engage in it are a danger to themselves and others. It is unfortunately considered to be “noble corruption” by those in authority and is provided support by ensuring that the victims do not get access to legal representation, or if they do that it is compromised. Or in my instance via the negligence of the Chief Psychiatrist who pretends to be asleep at the wheel , and fails to recognise the protection of the laws he has been charged with administering.

    The above quotes (from Vol. 1 Part 1 of the Kennedy Royal Commission) deals with the practice in policing. If they were ever to take a look at the use of the practice in mental health, AND God forbid see the consequences of the corruption (ie brain damage) there would be an outcry. Fortunately for some there is no avenue for this to occur, and if you complain about being verballed you are accused of trying to offer “justifiable explanations” (letter of response by the Chief Psychiatrist detailing why the events listed as being “observed matter” would require the ability to time travel and read minds. Copies available on request) for behaviours which could not possibly have been “observed” or which actually occurred (i’m sure from your description you know what I am saying)

    It’s a shame that the authorities charged with the “protection of consumers, carers and the community” allow this practice to occur with their negligence, because there is a significant amount of damage occurring as a result. No one in my community trusts these filthy verballing bastards as a result, and they thus need to be a little more ‘aggressive’ with their interrogation techniques (eg they torture people where I live by having police ‘rough em up a bit’ before interrogations and then ‘verbal em up’)

    This methods provides a means to enable arbitrary detentions and the use of torture for both mental health AND police. The protections afforded by the law of “reasonable grounds” undermined by the corrupt practice, which allows the fabrication of the grounds to remove the burden of proof for incarceration and forced drugging. (careful who you do it to though, easier to do to black people than whites for sure)

    Still, I guess they do not believe in a God and that they will ever be held accountable for their “bearing of false witness”. Which should protect them from the fear of what they are about to be faced with for their human rights abuses. Because while people like our Chief Psychiatrist and Minister may be prepared to conspire with criminals to ensure a lack of accountability (and only do their mandatory duty when they find out the ‘cover up’ has failed and police didn’t retrieve the proof of the misconduct). God doesn’t.

    At some point someone is going to start to unravel the lies and see these corrupt public officers for what they are, and the damage they are doing. And aren’t they in for a surprise when they find out complaining about public sector misconduct results in you and your family being ‘fuking destroyed’, and an ‘unintended negative outcome’ in the Emergency Dept with a ‘hotshot’ (negligence a tool that can be used in a number of ways. Especially with a public that has been ‘groomed’ to expect their failures, and make false attributions regarding those failures). THATS how desperate they are to ensure they are not exposed with their ‘help’.

  • “If individuals are ever in danger of coerced mental health treatments, they can potentially trigger MFI to look into issuing a human rights alert, similar to Amnesty International.”

    Similar in the same way that Amnesty Int. turns a blind eye to certain governments who allow them to fundraise? Similar to the Amnesty Int. who took the documents I had proving I had been subjected to acts of torture and then left me for dead?

    Not suggesting for a moment that your organisation would act in such a manner David, in fact I hope that this system takes off, because the “three pillars of protection for consumers” in my State is an absolute farce. Their knee jerk reaction to being exposed is to ‘fuking destroy’ complainants and their families, and do second rate cover ups to ensure they maintain the levels of terror in the community that stop anyone form complaining as they go about their ‘work’.

    With our elections coming up I hear the two parties boasting about the extra police numbers they will make available. That will be 800 more people to ‘treat’ the ‘mentally ill’ like this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    They should be careful what they wish for, because they just might get it. I’d have hoped they might have seen that police got access to a copy of the criminal Code so that when victims of crime turned up in their stations with proof they had been ‘spiked’ before interrogation, they weren’t referring them to mental health services for ‘treatment’, or arresting them for having the proof of the ‘spiking’ but rather performed the duties they are being paid for.

    Any written stories of success of the Shield program been published here or elsewhere?

    “I like to make the joke, which often falls flat, that there are silver linings in disasters — even breaking your neck. For instance, finding parking is way easier.”

    Except at the Paralympics right? “What, only two parking bays?”

  • Thanks H.S.

    there are laws in my country that are supposed to protect our privacy but …… [looks both ways] just between you and me, it’s a trick they use to exploit peoples trust. Never been a prosecution of anyone for handing out a persons medical records. And I doubt very much if that is because it has never happened.

    My records from a private clinic as a result of a need for a report turn up in a public hospital as a result of someone asking for help to have me locked up. The death of a thousand cuts from that point on, the slander made public by someone who doesn’t like my political views.

    I doubt that there would be a need for having records expunged and replaced in my State, because the act of complaining would result in a unintended negative outcome. Just the way National Socialists tend to work I guess.

  • Maybe part of Finance and Treasury?

    When the new Mental Health Act was proposed here there was a provision for the forced sterilization of children without parental consent. The draft Act was written by an epidemiologist and it was fairly obvious that he was taking into consideration the fact that there were a whole bunch of aboriginal children that were going to cost the State a whole lot of money. This due to the increases in Foetal Alcohol Syndrome (FASD).

    So I am wondering if the bean counters do the numbers and decide that certain groups of people are no longer economically viable in a cost benefits kind of way, then those groups could be ‘flagged’ for treatments and dealt with in the most humane way possible. Perhaps we could even make some ‘tweaks’ to our new Euthanasia Act that might be of use? Rather than hospitals having to rely on “editing” legal narratives to conceal what it is they are really up to.

    And given the ability of the State to use mental health services to extract confessions and then use the proceeds of crime legislation to remove their property and rights (where have I seen this before?) the ability to fill the coffers of the State in this time of need may be of great benefit to us all (that is “us” as in those who have not achieved the legal status of “mental patient”. Which was a little easier than I thought, a telephone call? You know, humans).

    All said tongue in cheek Dr Moncrieff, though there is an element of truth in what I am saying. The attempt to force sterilize here was based on an economic decision alone, the Hansards show this. Glad to say that 40% of our psychiatrists have left the public system as a result of being requested to perform the dirty work of the State. Some of them simply don’t have the stomach for it. (I got the impression that it was mainly the removal of the drug addiction exclusion, shuffling the problems of drug addiction from police to mental health services. You want drugs? We got drugs lol)

    As economic decisions the methods of dealing with these issues could be ‘farmed out’ to the various bodies. Sterilized, snuffed, given a tent to live under a bridge, ‘medicated’ or electro shocked into compliance, subjected to arbitrary detentions and torture, imprisoned in your own home [if you have one left by the time they ‘fuking destroy’ you] for eternity …. etc.

    In fact, may I suggest a really good paper about the use of Psychiatric Diagnosis as Political Device to you? (Loved the article, disappointed you didn’t cover the ability to use it as a Criminal Device. eg ‘flagging’ citizens on the system to use police as a personal kidnapping service) The ‘pathways’ available are left or right as you step off the train. Arbiet Macht Frei

  • “1. Q. Do you have a suicide plan”

    Yes, I have 50 pounds of C4 strapped to my torso and plan on taking you with me. Any suggestions as to how I stop the suicidal thoughts?

    “2. DO NOT JOKE OR USE SARCASM-*it is incomprehensible and will be used against you*”

    BOOM, oh you thought I was kidding?

    “3. Q. Do you see or hear things that others do not?”

    (on the way to heaven) Gee that was a really loud bang huh? Did you hear that too?

    5th Amendment right to not self incriminate? Refuse to answer police questions, hand them over to mental health services with a list of the questions you want answered. They can then inject with ‘chemical restraints’ until they cause akathisia (no psychiatrist required. Spikings authorized by Community Nurse who has no prescribing rights, and concealed later by Senior Medical Officer with a fraudulent prescription), or ECT until the person DOES answer the questions in front of police. Try getting around that in a court of law. Credible witnesses to your confession, it becomes two against one and …. you lose.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&t=1620s

    Mental health law removes your human rights which may be a good thing if we could only start torturing the right people.

    I was subjected to an interrogation (whilst ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug) in front of Police by a Community Nurse who asked me about illicit drugs. When I asked to speak to a lawyer regarding my right to not answer the question I was denied, and the deferring of the question until I could seek legal advice was used as a justification for incarceration and forced drugging.

    “refused to answer re substance abuse” listed on the Form 1. Aka torture until an admission is made. Standard practice where I live, and has the full support of the authorities.

    All in my latest book, Torture for Dummies. Published by Shaft Em Books $29.95. at all good book stores, unlike copies of the Criminal Code which can not be found by the hypocrites.

  • “How lucky are we..today someone threatened me a broken bottle at the train station”

    No copy of the Criminal Code, left to threaten citizens with broken bottles for not having tickets for the train, what has policing come to lol. The lack of resources surely to be discussed at public forums before the election?

    Seriously though, matters seem to be deteriorating at a rapid rate. The hospitals now dumping grounds that are nowhere near as safe as they used to be (and that was a stretch at the best of times)

  • Thanks Lametamor.

    I find the refusal to respond to a complaint worse than the criminal fraud used to conceal the torture and kidnapping.

    I mean there is no denying that this is what was done. Or they would simply say, ‘sorry but…. it’s not torture because …..’. What they are doing is simply refusing to respond as a result of knowing they have no defense, and that the conduct of their representatives has been beyond disgraceful. So they simply refuse to act according to what they swore they would do (ie the Articles of the Convention).

    I mean the idea that I have a right to have my complaint “promptly and impartially examined”? 9 years because they thought they had covered it up, and well, best we don’t let anyone see what we actually do regarding complaints of torture, too many bodies.

    And the notion that you can be rehabilitated by the same organisation that tortured you? Sure it wasn’t all of them but I just don’t know that I really want to walk into the clutches of these people who have a reputation for vicious assaults on people who disagree with their world view.

    So consider it has taken me 9 years of asking who I make my complaint to regarding what is KNOWN to be an act of torture. No doubt about it, documents, witnesses,….. all there. And I am expected to pay to speak to a psychologist about being subjected to State sanctioned torture, while to Attorney General who assisted a victim of police torture can’t tell me where it is I make my complaint (minus any legal representation. I will do it myself due to the gutless hypocrites who turn and run in fear, or actually assist the State in the concealment of acts of torture like the Mental Health Law Centre.)

    The good news in that word gets around about such matters. If they had behaved in an honorable manner, then there would have been no need for continued psychological abuse of the victim. But they didn’t, and thus they must attempt to maintain the falsehoods through acts of uttering and fraud.

    And once again I ask for assistance in these matters. Sure let them maintain the silence and allow the criminals to go on torturing (I can see why they might need such services given what they are doing requires a method to conceal their abuses). I really do not care anymore. They have shown themselves for what they are, and that is enough in the end.

    I simply want out before they start to ramp up their sterilizations and euthanasia programs. And believe me, they are going to ramp them up. They have closed off any avenue for remedy, and can now push forward knowing that they will not have any issues with complaints. Even the human rights lawyers are in cahoots, gathering information from victims for the State before throwing them under a bus.

    Got some really bad news for these people though. No worries as far as I’m concerned but

    Thou shalt not kill.

    Thou shalt not bear false witness

    I can’t wait to see how my government is going to get around those laws. Oh wait, they already have. Euthanasia Act and the “editing” of legal narrative. I can’t help but wonder about how many peoples documents have been “edited” before being sent to their lawyers. And of course no one prepared to speak about that issue either. Consider this fact alone, that they removed the documents showing the ‘spiking’ and that police were of the false belief that I was a ‘mental patient’ before jumping me in my bed? Would you (or anyone for that matter) consider that to be “editing” documents? Never mind the misleading ones they inserted (without my consent to do so I might add, the Law Centre had permission to access documents relating to my detention on the 30th Sept only)

    What good are human rights protections when the State is going to identify their human rights abuses, edit the legal narrative and then kill the complainant? It’s the same argument I put to police regarding them getting together with the criminals operating in the hospital. If they knew police weren’t going to do anything about their kidnapping and torture, then they wouldn’t feel the need to use the ED as their own personal slaughterhouse.