Monday, July 13, 2020

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  • “Asians and Asian Americans have been targets of discrimination and abuse because of claims that COVID-19 originated in China.”

    The Australian Prime Minister has said that China is lying when they issued a warning to their citizens about travelling to Australia as a result of the increase in attacks on people who look Chinese and thus being the ’cause’ of the COVID pandemic. It’s been strange, one minute the media is showing our Politicians in Chinese restaurants saying “Australia, stop being racists” and then when China says “your racists” they respond with “No we’re not, that’s a lie” lol.

    Combine that with the fact that a Nation which has arbitrary detention and the ability to torture citizens under the Mental Health Act and call it medicine (need a lesson, ask me how), is complaining about the possibility of China passing laws allowing arbitrary detention. I also note the attempt to link the Uhiger population with religious persecution of Muslims. These people are being ‘reeducated’ on cultural, not religious grounds. They are not being stopped from practicing their religion. But it’s a good way to get other countries to make noise.

    There are of course lessons being learned during these ‘shutdowns’ we are experiencing. Lesson that may be valuable (including the easing of ‘anxiety’ etc) when the bombs start dropping. Though I wonder if the saber rattling of our Prime Minster towards China might result on a fairly quick exchange, and the three hours we get to ‘shutdown’ the population before we are defeated in the shortest war in history might not be worth the cost (270 billion for weapons, and we can’t afford to provide healthcare to our indigenous population because ‘remote’. Oh sorry, 16 bed psychiatric unit to go with the new prison that was supposed to replace the old prison they were going to close, but have now decided is necessary despite it being unfit for purpose. I guess the ability to drug anyone who complains will resolve any problems regarding their ‘mental health’. Our Minister for Health standard line, any complaints refer to mental health for treatment. We will not be held accountable, and will silence any complaints with drugs and incarceration [and the odd unintended negative outcome if needed]).

  • Yes, we’re fairly good at managing our public image internationally. You’d be appalled if you knew what is being done to the indigenous population of this country. Luckily the only person getting the word out is John Pilger, and not a lot listening to him.

    “Australia dropped two spots last year to rank 21st out of 177 nations in the World Press Freedom Index, which noted that the nation’s investigative journalism in recent years been reduced due to “draconian legislation”.

    “[Australia’s] laws on terrorism and national security make covering these issues almost impossible,” says the index.”

    And given the ability to do arbitrary detentions (called welfare checks) and force them to take brain damaging drugs and torture them (called ‘care’) it’s no wonder the world isn’t hearing about these things. National Security does not trump Convention against the use of Torture, but I can show you how to use it to conceal the fact it is being done. It’s actually fairly easy, call it medicine, and the victim “patient”. And that is achieved in my State by a doctor calling police to ask for a welfare check of someone he/she doesn’t even know.

    They are even discussing making any criticism of Australia a crime, and then pointing fingers at China for laws less restrictive.

    And we even have the cheek to point fingers at other countries while we know we are possibly one of the worst human rights abusers in the world at present.

    Black Lives Matter? They haven’t in this country since Captain James Cook parked his butt on the land of other people and said “terra nullius”. Black lives only became lives in 1968, and even then it appears it was only as a way of making us appear to be ‘progressive’ in the eyes of the world.

    The latest raids related to government whistle blowers who can be snuffed at the E.D. by some doctor who is looking to advance his career. I’m sure the reason that police couldn’t find their copy of the Criminal Code when I turned up in their station with documented proof of the torture and kidnapping was to provide the window of opportunity for a doctor to see that the matter was resolved in their favor. Without the documents proving the motive to murder, there was no crime. And the State ensured they distributed fraudulent documents to ensure no one was aware there was motive to have me killed so……. they’re pretty good at this. And I can prove what the authorities do when they found out. Take a look at the letter I have from the Chief Psychiatrist. Despite his claim that he doesn’t understand the law he is charged with enforcing, he looks the other way if anyone complains about human rights abuses. “You did a cover up Operations Manger? Good, I’ll run with that then. Lawyers have fraudulent set of documents and the victim is dea….. he’s what? Turning up with the documented proof of the torture in police stations, and a politicians office? It’s every man for himself” lol Like rattus rattus on a sinking sloop.

    I went to a friend who is a Community Nurse and suggested we did to the Premier what was done to me (I did after all have it in writing from the Chief Psychiatrist and Minister that it was lawful). ‘Spike’ his meal, when he collapsed he was in possession of a knife from the lunch, have police make referral to my Community Nurse friend and we could have him dribbling in a cell in an hour. Imagine if we gave him a haircut on the way to the locked ward and dressed him in his pajamas his claim to be the Premier might even be used as proof of his mental illness. (Yeah Yeah, and my granny used to be the President of the USA nutjob lol)

    Of course it might be that the authorities have figured out that what I was saying was the truth, but they couldn’t possibly admit to their wrongdoing now. And someone went to all the trouble of ‘fuking destroying’ my life, committing acts of fraud and pervert the course of justice etc. Why not just keep running with that and hey, who is going to step up and help Boans? And take on the vicious bastards that fuking destroyed me? They have families too, and so all these good people would prefer to stand and watch, despite knowing the truth.

    I make no claim to be anywhere near the person that Jesus was, but I can say that they will stand and watch while they nail up a good person rather than risk the comfort of their pathetic miserable crawling lives. On your knees to the gods you stand before, and a long time in Hell for breaching the first commandment.

  • “I was trying to say is that because the State and psychiatry are so powerful, and they have done such a good job of demonizing their “mentally ill” patients, they spin any effort to defend yourself as an act of predatory violence by the less than human “mentally ill.” Whereas, when they commit genuinely horrific acts, they face no consequences whatsoever. ”

    I’ve heard this called Alinsky (after Saul Alinsky) tactics, where you make your victim play by the rules and exclude yourself from them. Which fits with exactly what is being done in my State. And consider when you look at the situation, it is like the State is at war with the people who vote for them. Have they gone totally insane?

    I note our Attorney General who spoke up for a man tortured by our police noted the “disgraceful conduct” of police in releasing the mans criminal history to the media in order to slander him for complaining. Funny but he doesn’t seem to have a problem with medical records being released unlawfully for the very same reasons. Documents not requested provided to slander, and documents critical (and showing State sanctioned torture and arbitrary detention) removed, and then handed over to lawyers who had been told not to act in the interest of their client by the State.

    Bizarre really. But things have changed now it is the “Party of the downtrodden” with their boots on the neck of the downtrodden. They’re worse than the people they replaced.

    Fix the game and there are no problems. And you think a P.R. campaign might help? Not in my State which has the media completely under their control, and publication of stories not approved by the State, your going to receive a visit from the Federal Police and find yourself on charges. And in a place where the planting of evidence, the torture and unintended negative outcoming of witnesses is all accepted practice, I don’t think i’d risk it.

    But these are all old stories (see your Book), and the outcome is known. They seem to look at the National Socialists and think they know why they failed, and that they can do it better this time. Totalitarianism is always doomed to failure.

    I laugh about the War of the Worlds remake showing on tv at present. My government (like aliens) on the verge of total control of the population, only to be foiled by a virus lol

  • “Looking out of windows, smiling or laughing at the wrong time, sitting awkwardly, etc, were also written down on my chart as inappropriate.”

    I was thinking about this ‘inappropriate laughing’ and realised it’s the paranoia of the document-er being documented, if that’s good England.

    My point being that they say something really dumb like “we’re here to help” and you respond by laughing. They take offence because they were being serious, and therefore put down that you laugh inappropriately. It’s a rigged game, and we all know that. Complaining about it is evidence there is something wrong with you.

    Problem being where I live they have the power to torture and arbitrarily detain, and thus force you into a rigged game. Something not available to the regular street hustler pulling a con. I understand we now as a result of the new Mental Health Act call it welfare check rather than arbitrary detention, and treatment rather than torture, but changing the names doesn’t change the animal.

    We weren’t arbitrarily detaining you, police came to get you, you refused to go so they beat you senseless with night sticks, pepper sprayed you while asking “Do you like that?” and then delivered you to someone to have your welfare checked.

    It was found that you still refused to talk and were ‘laughing inappropriately’ so we treated you until you did talk, we twisted your words and that then justified our torture, I mean treatment of you.

    It really is the insanity of the Inquisition isn’t it? Killing people to find out if they are witches. Torturing them till they confess to mind crimes.

    That’s right, we can’t simply snatch you from your bed, but with the new laws we can check on anyone’s welfare. Write those same laws in Chinese and they become human rights abuses lol. Same goes the other direction, we took the Euthanasia laws of the National Socialists, translated it from German, and called it “assisted dying legislation” I call it plagiarism personally. Something being taught at our educational institutions? Coz they sure as Hell aren’t teaching critical thinking or history.

  • Thanks madmother13.

    “it’s a shame there is no mad in Australia site”.

    And have people ‘flagged’ by our security services? Maybe best we don’t for now.

    Australia announces 500 new cyber spies to protect us from ourselves. Bit like their “added protections”, we all want cyber spies, as long as they don’t tell us they are to spy on us ‘voters’ lol.

    “You privacy is protected”, and the last time charges were brought against anyone for breaching the Privacy Act was ……. There has been the odd one, usually related to office politics. But the amount of breaches of privacy and the lack of policing of that data is astounding. Saying you take it seriously, and taking it seriously two entirely different matters.

    Like the Surveillance Devices Act. They may as well have written a Jarlsberg Cheese Act it is so full of holes. The only person who can’t seem to get access to your data is YOU. There’s some guy in a village in North Korea knows more about my medical history than me.

  • “I have to share my new favorite song boans… (and Sam too.)”

    Very clever O.O. I like it too.

    I sent the following clip to some of my friends to explain to them the complaints process in this State.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oudNoKfNUfs

    It’s a very effective means of ensuring the public are viciously humiliated for daring to question authority, and results in your god like status being maintained, despite the known wrongdoing. Hence the reason for a lack of remedy for acts of torture and kidnapping. No need, when you simply make life impossible for the victims.

    Luke did of course commit a crime, my only crime was that I dared to complain about being drugged without my knowledge and snatched from my bed by police for no reason (unless you consider the fraudulent statutory declaration as being “reasonable”) How dare I complain that my State is doing such things, when there are people in China who are being threatened with laws that allow this to happen? Funny but they simply can not see themselves as being human rights abusers, until of course they are committing acts of fraud and gaslighting people to suicide to conceal their criminal conduct. That’s the point you KNOW they know they are abusers.

    I do like the song “Ain’t no grave gunna hold me down”

  • “The headlines wouldn’t have been, “Boans Defended Himself Against an Unjust Person,” but, “Schizophrenic Violently Murders Kind Psychiatrist Who was Helping Him.” I have no idea what mental illness labels they actually gave you, but murder is usually blamed on “schizophrenia.” Acts like that, when they’re blamed on “mental illness” usually further enshrine the public’s and politician’s views about the “mentally ill.” Mental illness is commonly used by politicians on both sides as the root cause of violence. This allows them to shirk their duties to take meaningful action that would genuinely benefit everyone.”

    And what would the headlines be if they actually allowed the abuses occurring in the hospitals be? Schizophrenic doctor assists patients in their journey to the other side? Or is that style of killing somehow different to the regular type of schizophrenic killings?

    And as far as labels go, that seems to change as often as required, today bi polar, tomorrow terrorist, then the next day your cured depending on how they would like the statistics to play out.

    So if mental illness is the root cause of violence, and the police are simply the most violent people in our community……

    Seriously though Caroline, I get what your saying. My point relates to the notion of people having the power to do violence to others, and have that violence sanctioned by the State. I’ve heard it called ‘silent violence’, and putting the type of spin on it that is done by politicians does not change the fact it is violence.

    They know this, they know what they are endorsing. It was the reason our State Treasurer needed to get out of the State in a hurry to receive ‘treatment’ for his bi polar disorder, knowing the consequences of falling into the hands (and falling outside the law) of a psychiatrist as a result of a police referral in THIS State. I think the ‘diagnosis’ he received might possibly have been the same (slanderous hate speech has trends, but tends to be the same words), but his ‘outcomes’ would have been very different as a result of making an enemy of the Minister for Mental Health. Not that it would ever be admitted. And of course these types of rifts (along with the exposure of people being tortured by police, not just me but some made public as a result of the opposition, who now do what they accused the government of doing, covering up that is) have decimated the Party.

    I did actually sit next to one of our Politicians in a psychiatrists office as he was being dealt with for Misconduct by the Corruption and Crime Commission. I wonder how he went, given the way I was dealt with as a result of needing a report written for my employer. Snatched from his bed, tortured, kidnapped and unintentionally negatively outcomed perhaps lol.

    So if we were to look for a root cause for the conduct of this doctor doing a few snuffs in the ED for organised criminals, the answer lies in labeling him a schizophrenic? I mean I saw the craziness in his eyes, seen that before when men (mostly) have killing on their minds. But I get the feeling that despite him being promoted, all he deserves is the label murderer, which is after all not an illness, but an act (or in his case acts) that is deserving of punishment, not profit. Though I guess once again it’s a matter of who is being killed and who benefits from that killing. In my instance, a few people, including the State authorities who did not want anyone to notice they had kidnapped and tortured me. Seems fair. Saving the public a heap of money in the end, and we might even get to a point where our courts are simply not even needed anymore. Like the Police no longer even knowing where their copy of the Criminal Code is, why, when you can make it up as you go along based on …. oh I don’t know, the color of someones hair?

  • Imagine if you did to a citizen what you can do to a ‘patient’ sam.

    In fact there is a reference to such a story in the Christian Bible. Saul of Tarsus beaten for being a Christian, but also a Roman. And the magistrates? Oh dear, what have we done, ya can’t go around beating up on Roman citizens, they have rights you know, the same as us. And if we allow you to beat him up, were basically saying you can beat us up too. Bah, kill him and make it look like a suicide. we’ve got to find a better way…… I know, we can call it medicine, and make it exempt from the law. Doctor needs to be able to treat their patients, a few changes in the wording and …..

  • Good points people (Sam, Steve, and Bananas)

    We don’t have a Bill of Rights in Australia. Might explain why the systematic violation and large scale human rights abuses are going on without anyone even noticing. (I look forward to the response from China regarding the finger pointing [about arbitrary detentions] and saber rattling by our Prime Minister. Though they will no doubt conceal their strengths and bide their time)

    Mind you, I often wondered about the situation in WW2 and the fact that it took so long to liberate the camps. Or was that simply a side effect of the battle against German expansionism? No one seemed to notice what was happening there for quite some time is my point (or did they and simply didn’t care?).

    And of course complaining about human rights violations here is a dangerous thing to do, given the ‘protections’ provided by the State to these religious zealots in mental health.

  • “For instance, in California, some psychiatrists and doctors had developed a working relationship with the Black Panther movement. It had, for its part, began to push for health rights. This took the form of political support for Black Panther candidates running for office. It also took the form of medical and psychological support during demonstrations. The practical lesson to be drawn was that mental health providers should “make [themselves] available and open up contacts with these local groups.””

    And then you ask what can be learned?

    “One is that current protests and the Black Lives Movement, along with #MeToo and environmental activism, have the potential to be subsumed in the absence of political leadership.”

    Maybe the Black Panthers should never have developed “working relationships” with mental health ‘professionals’ and they may have been much more effective? Maybe the use of psychiatric abuse is the very reason we have no one capable of “political leadership”? Given how effective the use of psychiatric slander and the associated fraud is, and which I can attest to personally. A complaint regarding torture in my State receives a response from the Minister that the person requires ‘psychiatric treatment’ by the people who tortured them, despite having the documented proof. And of course with the status of ‘mental patient’ [something that can be achieved by a psychiatrist without even knowing the person in my State. Police appointed as their personal thug service.] police will look the other way while doctor has an unintended negative outcome with the problem.

    It used to be that procuring police as your personal thugs was a criminal offence, but we “added protections” to our Mental Health Act. And who doesn’t want “added protections”? There was a whole bunch of teenage girls wanting ECTs but couldn’t get their parents to consent, so we changed the laws to protect doctors from being sued if they ‘treated’ 14 year olds. Before this change they were concerned about being sued, but now we have “added protections”. I’m so glad my government is giving me all these “added protections”, and for free. Well, not exactly for free, but I don’t have time to list out all the benefits being provided by taxpayers for these “free added protections”.

    Combine these with the 100 plus protections in the Euthanasia Act and I’m so protected that it take a month for a letter to get from my front door to my hand.

    But wait, how come I can be drugged without my knowledge and snatched from my bed for no reason? And the fact that the hospital sent fraudulent documents to the Mental Health Law Centre concealing the torture and kidnapping? What if I had been euthanized ‘accidentally’? Can they send fraudulent sets of documents then too? To ‘protect’ me? I assume so, because none on our politicians wants to answer the question, and it was done, and I have asked. So we (citizens)have zero protections, and they are adding to them? No, they are providing protections for abusive doctors who have them in their pockets.

    Removal of reporting who is prescribing amphetamines? ‘Wild’ (decentralised) euthanasia laws.

  • Funny but I found myself actually caring in a situation where I thought I wouldn’t.

    This psychologist who I have spoken about who ‘assisted’ my wife with her ‘referral’ and getting me to ‘talk’ when I felt I had said enough, …..

    She (and her psychiatrist shock doc husband) have as I have said elsewhere, been ‘hijacking’ patients for profit. Vulnerable people with money being mislead into a ‘treatment’ that has been advertised via our media, and the laws changed (added protections) to protect docs who wish to ‘treat’ 14 year old girls without parental consent.

    Now normally I would have said who cares what happens to rich people, they don’t seem too worried about me (and this continues to be true given the lack of action regarding my torture and kidnapping). And this psychologist obviously positioned herself well to ‘hijack’ these people and profit from the ‘treatments’, an exclusive private clinic, and the counselling service of the most prestigious University in the State. (My freak situation of ending up in the clinic, son of a bricklayer pure coincidence). And so the people who were likely harmed by this pair of ‘medical professionals’ (because I really can’t say what they were doing was illegal, simply unethical) probably were the children of wealthy people.

    But I did care, they were people. Not their fault they were born into money. And well, the psychologist was also aware of the money I had received and i’ve no doubt was disappointed at my response to the suggested ECT treatments (ie shove a car battery up yer own …..did someone say KFC? Serious though, my response was not what she expected).

    So now, two well resourced organisations (with political connections) ensuring that the use of their fine establishments for such unethical purposes needs to be concealed. And the State is more than happy to assist in that regard, their human rights abuses and the subsequent use of fraud by the hospital to conceal torture a problem that disappears also. They all have skin in the game, and a whole lot of people were harmed as a result of the dereliction of duty by those charged with the protection of the public.

    So Boans is a nut that even his own family has been warned to not speak to, because we don’t like the truth of what he is saying. In fact i’m surprised i’ve even been allowed to voice my concerns here at MiA. But, land of the free, and home of the brave, maybe it’s true, maybe you do have so much more than we do here in this National Socialist State. Or maybe these people are secure in the fact that no one can possibly hold them to account, and given the fact that a doctor can ring police and have anyone delivered to a hospital for an unintended negative outcome that will be ‘overlooked’ by authorities………

    I don’t know, should I care if what is going on over the barbed wire fence seems a little strange? Should I have jumped the fence and taken a look, only to be shocked at what I saw? And heaven forbid that I try and inform the public, only to be reported and taken to meet Dr Mengele? I just wasn’t convinced by the sign in his office saying “Happiness, we’re all in it together” [one for the Brazil fans :)]

    I find myself wondering about ‘Chop Square’ in Jedda and the way we do the same thing but in locked wards (okay they remove them, we damage them if you wish to quibble over technicalities). Maybe given the way that the public is being given what they want (Euthanasia Laws) we can start having public executions again? Rather than hiding them from the public in these places disguised as hospitals we can do it in the village square? I can see no reason there would be any complaint from the public if we were to throw them a mental patient or two once a week, given what we are allowing to be done to them in these psychiatric prisons. Of course physical distancing would need to be observed, so please consider televising if the public does express a large interest.

    Only people who have been subjected to these psychiatric interventions would truly understand the brutal truth of the depraved nature of these people once they get into a lynch mob. Our Minister for Health should seriously consider this. There are votes in it from people who are living in fear of the mental patients they are forced to share their public space with.

    P.S. for anyone interested in the way psychiatry can be used as a political tool, see the case of Malker Leifer currently in the Courts in Israel. The law a farce when psychiatry becomes involved. She’s nuts, she’s not, she’s nuts, she’s not…….. they will need to settle it, because they can not afford to have psychiatry put on trial, the fraud cases would go on forever lol

  • I really am laughing at present as a result of the debate about the passing of laws in China regarding Hong Kong.

    Arbitrary detention laws that have been passed and may be used by the Chinese government to arbitrarily detain people and have them transported to mainland China to face charges have been passed. And the good human rights violating Australian government has provided 10 000 visas for people to avoid these laws. Hey hang on a second……..

    Anybody wish to look at the Mental Health Laws in this country? Certainly not the Chief Psychiatrist who writes that a person can be detained by police and force drugged based on nothing more than a “suspicion” (he removed the “reasonable grounds” section and hey presto like magic we have arbitrary detention and torture available to mental health workers and police). How is it possible he can protect our human rights when he doesn’t know what the protections are?

    The ‘trick cycle’. Mental health worker says ‘patient’ to police, who then ‘suspect on reasonable grounds’ the person is suffering from a mental illness [s. 195 of MHA]. Police refer to mental health worker who authorities ‘spiking’ of ‘patient’ [neglect duty of care whilst person is in custody]. Hands back to police for interrogation whilst being ‘transported’. Police then torture, and hand back to mental health worker, who then hands on his ‘police referral’ to a psychiatrist for examination, with a ‘verballed up’ statutory declaration [not unlike providing the Courts with fabricated evidence, which will never under any circumstances be prosecuted]. Psychiatrist receives a citizen who has been subjected to torture, thinks its a mental illness and starts the wheels in motion. Left to the Judge to figure it out, and if your real lucky they may notice the evidence was planted.

    And I get it, that the Community Nurse may at times need to have police assist with a “patient”, much the same way if a prisoner escaped from prison. But that doesn’t mean police get to call anyone they want to torture an ‘escaped prisoner’ and lock them up and rape them until they tell them what they want to hear. Or does it? I might be speaking too soon on that one, i’ll get back to y’all lol

    Now if I, the ‘mental patient’ have enough grey matter to understand why one might need more than a “suspicion” to detain someone and force drugs into them against their will, in a place they have been transported to against their will, surely a lawyer (principle of the Mental Health Law Centre) or the cabinet Minister of the Upper House would understand why it makes arbitrary detentions available to public officers?

    And whilst the threat of it occurring may be real in Hong Kong, I can bear witness to the fact that it is being done here in Australia. And not a soul saying a word about it, mainly because they are being subjected to ‘treatments’ that make Chinese water torture look like an afternoon of watching Sesame Street.

    What a disgrace that we are offering a hand to people to enter a place that is DOING what they claim CAN AND MIGHT BE DONE in another.

    I’m sure the Chinese government is aware of the large scale human rights abuses that are occurring in Australia (i’ve certainly spoken to one, and am certain given the ease with which this can be done, there are others), and it may be a good move to stop their citizens from coming to this place. Of course this might also make it possible to empty the prisons in Hong Kong, and reduce the tax burden to their Nation.

    “Suspect on reasonable grounds” an objective test under law that provides the protection to citizens, and can be used to resolve issues of misconduct by public officers, becomes “suspect on grounds they [mental health workers and police] BELIEVE to be reasonable” (criteria of s. 26 literally removed, and without Parliamentary approval, imagine) The rewritten version by the Chief Psychiatrist, and approved by the Minister for Mental Health, that is subjective, no test, and provides zero protection from detention because the Community Nurse wants police to drag you from your bed, kidnap you, and force drugs into your system to deliberately damage your brain and call it medicine. And the people enabling this say China is a human rights violator?

    And given there is no avenue for complaint regarding acts of torture, (hence the reason we have such a good record, that and the refoulments) these people might want to consider the ‘treatment’ they are going to get if they DO seek refuge here. Because surely some of them would be spies right? And we can torture here, ask me, i’ve been training public officers for a few years now 🙂

  • It must be realised that these people were conspiring to murder me to conceal their criminal conduct. And whilst they failed in that task, it has generally been accepted that it is just what one would expect given the circumstances. I mean, we give these doctors the power to snuff a few every once in a while, and well, the guy found himself in a position where his wife had conspired to have someone tortured and kidnapped, and there was a citizen walking around with the proof of that going into police stations.

    Quick, call the police and procure their assistance to ensure they don’t take the proof from the victim, and then arrange a killing in the Emergency Dept. I wish I could be honorable and say it’s not what I would do but ….. unfortunately if I had the power to call police and have them assist me with killing people I disagreed with, i’m afraid i’d be a little weak, and they would be a little busy. I don’t think I truly understand the insanity behind that reasoning by police (ie that its okay to kill because what choice did he really have?) but it’s what gets used by them to neglect their duty and allow these types of convenience killings. And the evidence is there, documented and well….. concealed from the public for their own good.

    I don’t have the power to murder people while police turn a blind eye, and these people do. And they were obviously taking advantage of that situation to enrich themselves.

    I wouldn’t worry though, because the people who have a duty to do something about it refuse to act, mainly because of their negligence in the first instance.

    And no one knows better than me how narratives are being manufactured by the State, via fraud and slander. In fact, there are people here who have made a lot of money from having people labelled ‘mentally ill’ commit offences for them after a little gaslighting. Almost the perfect crime having the nut do the deed for you, and then use the mechanism of the State to conceal your involvement. Mental patient batters mother to death [and sister gets the house].

    I really have no problem with the State killing people, I just find it offensive that they would do it for complaining about their criminal conduct. That sort of cancer needs to be dealt with and I apologize to the police for bringing them the message. Sure its so much easier if your planting the evidence and then dropping complaints off at the ED for slaughter. I mean we aren’t openly killing people in prisons, and yet its an open secret that the State is slaughtering any complainants regarding State misconduct.

    And believe me, they really don’t care who knows. In fact, i get the impression they want the word put around to generate fear in the community. Live with the corruption because we have no intention of doing anything about it.

    Advocates? I think that may be an auto correct error and should read sycophants.

    I watched a video of our Attorney General speaking 9 years ago when I was being tortured, speaking about another man who had been subjected to some viscous torture captured on video by police. He spoke about our Premier being the Premier of cover ups, and how his party was for the ‘downtrodden’ and only they would stand up for this man. He also spoke about the Aust. Human Right Commission acting on his complaint regarding torture. And yet now in power, the story changes. He can’t even inform me of who I should forward my complaint regarding the 7 hours of torture I was subjected to, and refers people to an authority our Prime Minister has stated is a “kangaroo court” that is being used for State cover ups.

    They will use whatever comes to hand to advance their careers, and simply don’t give a damn about who gets hurt. In fact at that public rally concerning this man being tortured, and the demand for the full video to be released, was the now Minister for Health, who was in support of the victim. These days he simply slanders anyone complaining regarding torture as being mentally ill and considers that the end of the matter.

    And I wouldn’t worry so much about anyone in the community doing anything about it. These are the same people who pointed fingers at Jews in the 1940s and watched as they were also dragged from their homes and ‘treated’.

    How simple has it been for these ‘good’ people, who, when the truth doesn’t suit simply refuse to accept the documented proof and ignore the complaint. Though one does need to consider these organised criminals forming networks in our public service are new to the place and need to be given a bit of time to acclimatize and get the lay of the land before moving up the criminal ladder. And our politicians know this and are concealing their misconduct until they do, with such bizarre claims as ‘the law isn’t the law, and we are enabling arbitrary detentions’. Any complaints we will treat you.

    I care zero anymore. The people who haven’t been ‘fuking destroyed’ ask me why I am still upset about the effects of being tortured, and then go play in the park with their families. What I have found most bizarre is that there is a verse in Qur’an regarding people who ask ‘why should I help when with a click of His fingers God could feed these people?’. Even my own brothers may be able to recite the words, but they seem to fail to understand what they actually mean.

  • “I realized that the next logical and right step was to report the crime to police. I told my father, who contacted the inspector in charge of retrospective abuse cases. My uncle was prosecuted, pleaded guilty, and was sentenced to three years in prison.”

    I knew there were places in the world where you could go to the police with proof of crimes and they wouldn’t arrest you and hand you back to your abusers for having the proof of the crimes. This is the major problem with police being so under resourced in my community that they don’t have a copy of the Criminal Code, and complaining about being ‘spiked’ with benzos when you have the documented proof is a “hallucination” that you need treated for because police want to be able to interrogate people whilst they have been stupefied/intoxicated without their knowledge. And then they slander you as a paranoid delusional for claiming you were drugged without your knowledge, even when they know your speaking the truth.

    Glad your speaking out about you experiences Sinead. And even better that you have police who will actually do something for the victims of crimes. Not where I live, the whole justice system has been perverted beyond recognition, and the recent marriage between mental health services and police is going to make matters a whole lot worse for some people. Being able to conceal torture and kidnappings for doctors by the acquiescence of police is in my opinion not going to work out well. Add to that the unintended negative outcomes they are turning a blind eye to and Houston we got a problem. Not one anyone is going to hear a lot about though, given that lawyers are acting as early warning systems for complaints of torture by the State, who are then responding by refoulment of the victims.

    I even saw this documentary about a person in the UK who had the very same thing done to them as me, but very different outcome.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErucDbB0GaU

    Imagine if police had made the victim here into a “mental patient” so they could conceal the crimes for the criminals, and then ensured the hospital ‘fuking destroyed’ her for complaining about being handed back to the people who drugged and kidnapped her?

    I guess I was just unlucky to live in a country that enables such vile conduct. And has a Minister for Health who says complaining about such conduct is an illness.

  • I don’t mean to be rude, but I do prefer the video of the cat chasing it’s tail on youtube.

    There’s just no nice way of violating human rights. they have tried all sorts of ways to make it sound nice. Instead of the vans going around doing orbital lobotomy, they use the ‘chemical ice pick’ these days. Sure they ‘sedate’ before ECT these days, but the damage is the same. Your not going to find easy ways to do that, sitting down with the people you want to damage and singing Kumbayah just isn’t going to work.

    Do it the way it was done to me. Put on your Jack Boots and kick your way into their homes, drag them out and beat them into submission. Anything else is a waste of time, and tax payers dollars. Stop spreading lies about human rights, you don’t mean it. In 9 years I haven’t found what authority I should provide the proof of me being tortured to, because there is no point having an authority, because anyone who complains gets ‘unintentionally negatively outcomed’. We have rights on paper, but no mechanism for remedy. The people who torture you, are the people who take the evidence/proof and then ‘fuking destroy’ you. Deny you right to legal representation (a human right we also don’t have, though it is supposed to be one) And we take our seat at the UN as good global citizens.

    Cut the crap, mental health IS a euphemism for human rights abuses, and there is no amount of spin doctoring going to conceal that from it’s victims.

    My government is now in a position where making a complaint about being tortured is proof that you need to be tortured. Disagreeing with those in power proof that you have a mental illness and are in need of ‘treatment’. A Chief Psychiatrist whio has, in writing, confirmed arbitrary detentions for Community Nurses (and anyone above that rank), while we warn people not to travel to China as a result of the possibility of arbitrary detentions.

    Not unlike the Community Nurse who arranged to have me thrown into a police van in front of my In Laws and neighbours writing on his fraudulent statutory declaration that I had “potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships”. I agree that this is every person on the planet, and if that’s enough for police to be dispatched to drag someone from their home, so be it. I had “potential”, he did ACTUAL damage. They claim concern for my welfare? And that requires the total destruction of a persons life to ensure they don’t harm themselves.

  • “Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy… the FEAR to attack.” Dr Strangelove.

    When I was physically assaulted by the doctor in the hospital, I had a choice. He had no right to touch me, I had pointed out that he had no right, and he decided that I was at a disadvantage and he would ignore my right to physical integrity. He was close enough for me to snap his neck quite easily, though I chose not to. I let him believe that because he had a nurse about 10 feet away that he had all the power, I knew different.

    How was he to exercise his power of legal force or breach of trust in the morgue? (His funeral, my trial) Let him run, lets see where he goes with this. If God so chooses, they have no power at all. There is nothing they can do without Him allowing it to be.

    God has all the power. Whilst it can be painful to be subjected to torture, as was shown in the case of Bilal ibn Rabah, there are those who will not allow this to be done to others for their beliefs. Unfortunately they are not the people who are in government in my State at present. Despite their ‘big talk’ regarding their ‘Parties’ rejection of the use of torture before they were elected. It is they who are now the Masters of the ‘cover up’. Oh how power corrupts.

  • No I can’t say I have contacted the Justice Action org here Rosalee, but thanks for the information. I may contact them but a few things to consider. I have contacted an awful lot of people who have told me some very strange things.

    Shine Lawyers – “your doctor authorised the ‘spiking’ with benzos” to which I asked “which doctor would that be because its plain on those documents you have I didn’t have a doctor?”. “We can’t tell you who your doctor is”.

    Australia today issued a warning to travelers regarding the possibility of arbitrary detentions on China.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/australia-warns-of-arbitrary-detention-risk-in-china/2020/07/07/79b51a0e-c033-11ea-8908-68a2b9eae9e0_story.html

    I have a letter here from the Chief Psychiatrist enabling the arbitrary detention of any citizen in this State. He writes that the Community Nurse (who has completed the 2 days course at a community college) can have police detain anyone he wishes if he “suspects” that the person requires incarceration and forced drugging. This ‘model’ was confirmed in writing by a Cabinet Minister (Leader of the Upper House) as “not being a misrepresentation”. Now my point is this, that the law states that the Community Nurse must “suspect on reasonable grounds” that a person needs to be locked up an drugged, and that there is a whole section of the law (s.26) which sets out the “criteria” which must be met for a person to be detained and loose their right to liberty. Otherwise what we have are arbitrary detentions (‘suss laws’ with the ability to drug without consent). Now why is the Australian government on the one hand complaining about the possibility of arbitrary detentions in China, and yet a Cabinet Minister is authorizing them State wide where I live? The new Mental Health Act of course allows people to be concerned about your “welfare” and makes the arbitrary detentions that enables, appear to be something other than what they are. I’d be seriously concerned about anyone who was wanted by the State for a ‘welfare check’ because their welfare is in serious jeopardy.

    The lawyers at the Mental Health Law Centre do not agree with my interpretation of the way the Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the law and enabled arbitrary detentions and claim that one needs to understand “the spirit of the Act”, which is to enable citizens to be drugged without their knowledge until police can snatch them from their beds and deliver them to a hospital where a doctor can treat them against their will.

    Police do not have a copy of the Criminal Code in a large Metropolitan Police Station, and therefore the documented proof that I was ‘spiked’ with an intoxicating drug without my knowledge is not a crime.

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/wa/consol_act/ccaca1913252/notes.html#appendixb

    see for example s. 305A Intoxication by Deception, or

    s. 336 Procuring the apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a mental illness, or

    etc

    It’s a real shame police can’t find their copy, because if the actually looked they would find that two people got together and conspired to stupefy and commit an indictable offence, namely kidnapping. But they have made the choice not to look, while the ‘good medical people’ fuking destroyed me, retrieved the documents and then had me killed in an Emergency Dept. Of course they are going to claim they were ‘on to it’ all along, and were there when they interrupted the process. Rubbish, they were actively engaged in assisting the criminals way after that happened.

    Police tell me that turning up in a police station with documented proof of the above is reason to refer the victim for “hallucinating” despite having what a lawyer said was “proof” (her words not mine). When the people at mental health services said it wasn’t an illness to have proof you had been ‘spiked’, they threatened them until they said it never happened and then simply ignored the fact that they had been stooged into torturing and kidnapping a citizen, and were neglecting their duty to conceal their involvement ion further serious offences.

    The Human Right Commission doesn’t take complaints regarding allegations of Torture. They will however help me if I can’t get a baker to make me a cake for my marriage to my husband. I assume the full force of the law would apply in that situation, but torture, not our department.
    I’ve written to Amnesty Int. , Aust. Lawyers for Human Rights, and a host of others including our Attorney General asking who is it that I put these allegations to, as I have the documented proof, and no one can tell me.

    I’ve asked here, and not a peep about who it is.

    Why would it be that Aust is pointing fingers at other Nations regarding their use of torture, and yet we don’t have an authority to deal with allegations of it here? Certainly not because it isn’t being done, it just that under normal conditions the victims are silenced using the ‘medical system’ (aka mental health). Our current Minister for Health has a clever way of dealing with complaints, he says your a nut job and need help from mental health services if you don’t agree with him. And given we have arbitrary detentions, cause too many problems and a team will be dispatched to check on your welfare.

    Aust Health Practitioners Regulation Agency, the licencing authority who give rights to who can and can’t prescribe dangerous drugs. Tell me that the Community Nurse, who they would know has NO prescribing rights, has been given the right to ‘spike’ citizens without their knowledge? In fact their response to my detailed complaint exposes a level of incompetence that should be of concern to the whole community.

    Now I get it, you guys are aware of how much I struggle to explain myself clearly, but these are people who I have sat across the table from, and who I know have clearly understood what I have said.

    My government is involved in large scale human rights abuses, and they do their best to conceal them firstly through fraud and slander, and if necessary they are killing a few in the Emergency Dept. Sure it’s embarrassing for them that I slipped through the net, and well, they have managed to drag matters out for so long now that they can now claim it was so long ago……and well, we have so many people wanting to come here we can afford to ‘waste’ a few good ones with the odd killing in the ED. Plenty more where they came from.

    I don’t know, I’ll have a look and maybe speak to these people Rosalee. I mean it when I say thank you for your kind thought, it’s just that ….. like I have explained to my brothers, I have been left for dead by my community, and I should be spending my time digging my own grave. “I got my head right Boss” as Cool Hand Luke said.

    I really just want my stuff and the right to leave this vile place. I get it that many here don’t get to see the ugly hearts of these people, and I hope they never do. Like the arbitrary detentions being enabled by our Chief Psychiatrist though his dereliction of duty, and playing lets pretend I don’t know what a burden of proof is to the nutjob, they may live their lives never being snatched from their homes and tortured like I was. But I get the feeling that these people are not creating these loopholes in our laws to ensure the protection of the community. Consider, until the ‘outside’ world started to speak up, they would have passed laws allowing the forced strerilisation of children without parental consent. And they have actually passed a ‘wild’ euthanasia law, and consider the government is allowing hospitals to distribute fraudulent documents to conceal kidnapping and torture (I can, and have, proved this to a number of people including a Member of Parliament), so what else are they allowing?

    We will never know in a place where any questions are ignored and you get ‘flagged’ for ‘fuking destruction’ by the State for even asking.

  • Nothing like a Law Centre acting as ‘advocates’ who receive funding from the State and act against the interests of the people they are supposed to be representing, and protecting from human rights abuses. Don’t bite the hand that feeds, and if that means looking the other way while people are being tortured and killed, ask for a raise. Oh you did, nice new offices you got Councellor.

    In fact the Principle of said Law Centre made it clear that the law did not require the vacant position of Chief Psychiatrist be filled by a psychiatrist, it could be a ‘human rights lawyer’ (not unlike herself). You scratch my back Minister, and she will stab the citizens if allowed to corrupt that office. Torture, kidnapping and convenience killings all in the “spirit of the Act” eh?

    Funny that she could understand the complexities of the Mental Health Act in this regard, and yet could not understand how the protection of “suspect on reasonable grounds” operated to protect their clients when it was put to her? The Principle of a Law Centre who doesn’t understand a burden of proof?

    The funding should be removed and the ‘advocacy service’ scrapped. Better no service than one which is aiding and abetting in misconduct by public officers.

    How someone could sit across a table from a person asking for your help after being tortured and kidnapped knowing that you were going to assist the torturers/kidnappers to conceal their conduct, ……. I look back and feel sick. Especially knowing that there are so many others who sought help, and have quite likely been subjected to the same unethical conduct by these same lawyers. The problem being that they simply say to you “there may be things I can’t tell you” and don’t mention it is that they are going to assist the criminals to conceal their wrongdoing.

    It would however explain that many of the complaints and anger labelled as being ‘illness’ may actually be as a result of the misconduct of these people who are actively engaging in ‘gaslighting’ of victims, and claiming the moral high ground as ‘advocates’ when what they are is organised criminals receiving funding from the State. Maybe that’s why they sacked the lot of them, who knows. The sin being getting caught, not that you did it.

    Gee I wish I could get an ethical person to examine the evidence I have, rather than someone with a conflict of interest or who runs away when police threaten their families.

  • One of the most poisonous comments ever used against me by a psychiatrist was that I explained that the Community Nurse had fabricated evidence regarding domestic violence against me to slander me. He wrote on the statutory declaration “wife fearful for safety” (communicated matters), and then in his follow up notes “wife fears being assaulted”.

    I of course asked my wife about why she had said such things about me when she knew they were not true, and she said, and I quote verbatim, “I said no such thing”. Of course at that time I had great difficulty believing anything, and it basically destroyed our marriage. (and of course my wife quite prepared to use that false statement to her advantage, the evidence to slander me being fabricated by the Community Nurse and then uttered by others despite knowing it was false. Meh, I should expect as much)

    Point being that I told a psychiatrist this, that my wife was not afraid of me and that the Community Nurse made that up to create the risk he required to create the illusion of lawfulness. Risk being one of the elements he requires to detain and refer.

    The psychiatrist responded with, “your wife was too afraid to tell you she was afraid of you”. Think about that poisonous comment. All the years I lived with my wife who I loved dearly, she was totally living in fear of me, but was too afraid to say so. Everything that she ever said to me was a lie, and she only said it because she was afraid of me.

    It is possibly the most poisonous statement I’ve ever heard from someone. Even when my wife speaks the truth and says “I’m not afraid of you”, her statement is rejected because she is so afraid to speak the truth that she is afraid?

    They even find ways of speaking for others in these situations. Not only is what I’m saying invalidated, but the words of others are invalidated when they don’t suit the narrative they prefer.

    The Community Nurse wanted it to be that she was afraid, he fabricated that evidence to create what he needed, and then it is used to poison should you complain.

    I’ve no idea if the psychiatrist who did this was using it to check my ability to reason or not. But that comment still angers me to this very day. Further evidence of the slanderous nature of psychiatric assessments. Let me say, these people need to be very careful when they start poking snakes, though with the ability to manufacture narratives to conceal misconduct, their involvement in, and escalation of domestic violence will remain unnoticed.

    Allow me to draw your attention to the ‘redacted’ documents I was provided with from the hospital as a means to explain. They “edited” that set to lay the blame for what was done to me entirely on my wife, concealing the misconduct of the Community Nurse, provoking my anger and directing it towards her. Clever, and particularly vicious, though they are after all people just doing their jobs. How many women and their children are dead as a result of this type of conduct? None, because “it never happened” as a result of them being able to commit acts of fraud and slander their victims.

    Divide and Rule.

    What God has put together, let no person put asunder (corrected to be politically correct lol).

    Easy to point the finger at my wife, as sure she bears some responsibility. But the Community Nurse has a duty and consider what he knew.

    I had been ‘spiked’ with benzos.

    I was no ones “patient”

    He spoke to me about a knife he THOUGHT the police had found, and thus knew it was planted for them to find.

    He then completed what he knew were fraudulent statutory declarations knowing he would receive support in those serious criminal offences as a result of his ‘history’ of committing those offences.

    No one other than him had the power to incarcerate me, and he did so despite being fully aware that what he was doing was criminal. Sure, she pointed the finger, but he was the one that arranged the ‘lynch mob’.

    Of course the State would have preferred me to have returned home and beaten my wife to death, then they could have said “see, we told you so” and called for more resources to deal with ‘undiagnosed’ mental illness in the community.

    The damage they do should not result in them being able to profit from it. That needs to change to a negative reinforcement model to stop further deliberate damage being done to people.

  • “I learned first-hand the whole assessment thing is totally clueless, biased and harmful.”

    I think it is important to understand the way this loophole to enable human rights abuses has slipped under the radar of our communities.

    When the UN stated that Australias laws were a violation of human rights and that the treatments may constitute torture (proving motive if Doc kept their mouth shut the means of ensuring the statement could not be ARE acts of torture) our respective State governments rewrote their Mental Health Acts to invalidate that statement.

    The standard party line was “there are added protections”, but they never openly stated what those protections were. They were protections from law suit for giving ECTs to teenage girls, the forced sterilization of children without parental consent, CTOs, and to ensure that the torture and kidnappings they have been arranging (like mine) were not capable of being prosecuted. They were now to be concealed under the guise of ‘welfare checks’ to remove your right to “reasonable grounds” for detention, and replace that with a good faith defense for kidnappings and torture. Doctor was to be given legal protections from prosecution for acts that were once considered criminal.

    Of course we all want “added protections” right? So our politicians giving themselves pay rises for allowing their doctor friends to kidnap and torture with impunity was a success, given that the public were happy with their new added protections, not realising who it was that was being ‘protected’. It’s clever, and my government are as a result of the laws they are passing becoming nervous about being labelled “nazis”. In fact when they started with the propaganda about the Euthanasia Bill,m they told the newspapers (and media) to not use the term Euthanasia because of the similarity to the laws passed by the National Socialists in Germany. They preferred the term “assisted dying” as a euphamism.

    My problem is that given when I was tortured and kidnapped, and the hospital found out that was what occurred, they then “edited” the documents they provided to my legal representatives to conceal the truth. Authorised by the Clinical Director. So the ‘protections’ offered under the Euthanasia Act work how? A doctor slips one under the nose of the Coroner, and if the families lawyers question the matter the State authorises the distribution of “edited” documents? I mean I get it that this “edited” means fraudulent, which is precisely what I consider removing the documents that prove a person was ‘spiked’ with benzos and wasn’t a “patient”, to a set that shows a “mental patient” of 10 years was taken from their home and delivered by police to a locked ward for ‘treatment’ by their doctor MIGHT be considered “editing”, but I really do prefer the correct term of fraud. Two lawyers provided with the two sets of documents would come to very different conclusions, that’s fraud if it is done with the intention of deceiving them. And well, I was told they would fuking destroy me.

    But rather than have to go through and kill complainants, it was much easier to change the law to enable these acts of kidnapping for doctors and police to deal with their corruption using the slander of mental health, and provide them with protections from people like me turning up in police stations with the proof. What a knee jerk reaction that caused, as a result of police knowing about the cover up (i was ‘flagged’ as “patient” to allow uttering and commit offences against me. Can’t have torture victims being listened to could they?), they call mental health and request a transport to a hospital for some dribble therapy to silence one of their victims.

    I don’t know that citizens are aware of how dangerous it is to speak to anyone associated with mental health. I cringe when I see the ‘Venus fly traps’ being advertised on television these days as a result of COVID.

    Slightly sad looking actor looks to screen while on phone to services, next scene is happy playing with grandchildren and smiling while on beach.

    Disabled pensioner with back problems dragged form home by 6 police, beaten with night sticks and pepper sprayed in eyes while being asked “You like that?”, and filmed by one officer on his phone like the inmates of Abu Ghraib.

    I just can’t see the links.

    Too late anyway, they got the laws through, and the public is blissfully unaware their rights have been seriously eroded. They feel ‘protected’ as a result of our politicians not speaking openly and honestly about the consequences of the changes. They speak in euphemisms of ‘treatment’ and ‘care’ and ….. go take a look in one of these places. Best they don’t I guess, and like the National Socialists they will restrict access to the initiated, those who have the stomach for it.

  • ‘Te psychiatrist has all the power’

    mmmm not really. I’m sure that the Vietnamese could have said the Americans have all the power and left it at that but …… it’s matter of how you fight the powers that be.

    “We are not going to fight in the American way, we are going to fight in the Vietnamese way” Col. Giap to the people who armed the Viet Cong. The small can destroy the big, it’s a matter of picking your time, and being sure that those who have done you harm do not wish to bring about peace by making good on their wrong.

    I think about my situation where I understand the State concealing their use of known torture methods. What is not acceptable to me is that they are doing that for people who were NOT public officers, and are assisting people who have committed serious criminal offences to conceal their involvement in those offences. My wife and the psychologist were not public officers and therefore should not receive the protection of the State for their crimes (conspire to stupefy and commit an indictable offence, namely kidnapping 40 years prison, lets start there). And just because they managed to procure the services of corrupt public officers to do their bidding (torture and kidnap me) should not exempt them from punishment. And further, a doctor signing prescriptions post hoc for police to conceal ‘spikings’? And my community isn’t concerned about that? Is he doing it for rapists too? Because I have some concerns about a Catholic priest who is also a doctor engaging in that type of conduct for some fairly obvious reasons. Didn’t know of my existence and is signing a prescription for drugs administered without my knowledge 12 hours after it was done? Surely a duty of care would have required a toxicology report and to inform the victim of the offence? No, lets put him in the locked ward for the first time in his life and see what happens to his mental state if we don’t tell him, and fuking destroy him (and his family) if he complains.

    But as stated they are working closely to ensure the torture program (and subsequent killing of victims) is concealed from the public in the interest of the State. They are thus in breach of the agreement they signed with the UN in regards the Convention against the use of Torture. And have no respect for the rights of citizens, and are only interested in maintaining their positions of power and privilege.

    If it is a matter of public officers getting citizens to commit offences which they then refuse to prosecute then we are in big trouble in little China. I understand the method of offering drugs or alcohol to persons they wish to interrogate whilst under the influence of intoxicating substances. Caveat emptor if your chose to leave yourself vulnerable. Police often time their arrests to coincide with hangovers. But the ‘spiking’ of persons by citizens who are then assisted in concealment of that offence because of the benefit to public officers in being able to torture (via the acquiescence of duty) is a clear breach of the Convention.

    However, as I have stated my State finds it fairly easy to drop people off at the Emergency Dept (you did after all fall asleep and the “reasonable grounds” for police referral are met), and with “No National Standards as to what constitutes a chemical restraint” a person may be easily injected with enough chemicals to result in an “unintended negative outcome” and the problems associated with them being capable of bearing witness to the offences disappears. Like a magic show, and police simply arrest anyone who turn up in the police station with proof (or threaten their family as has been shown to occur).

    “It’s as if a rapist has the right to demand that his victim be nice, in order to better engage with him, and hope to change his mind about whether or not to rape people.”

    This is precisely the model used where I live. Once you set the wheels in motion with the procurement by planting evidence on an individual, they will simply keep ‘raping’ until the victim accepts their ‘illness’ and complies. Stop complaining or they will ‘fuking destroy’ you. And they have police resources available to do that, even when it is known that they are committing serious acts of misconduct (ie enabling acts of torture and kidnapping). And they will continue to slander you even when the proof has been presented to them. Further acts if uttering by public officers not concerned at all about their further misconduct.

    Orwell said it all in 1984, that real power was the ability of the State to take something and make it that “it never happened”. I have the documented proof, but they have the right to commit acts of fraud and slander to conceal the truth and manufacture a narrative that suits their purpose.

    What is really sickening is the perverted way police actually enjoy exercising their power over victims and ensuring the obstruct the path to justice. I guess the sickness comes from time in the job, and the false belief that they are unaccountable. Which if they can use the services of organised criminals in our hospitals to conceal their misconduct, I guess they are.

    Oft quoted but worth remembering

    All it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing.

    And I have watched for 9 years as evil has reigned supreme, and our politicians (and authorities) refuse to even inform me of where I can make a complaint about the use of known torture methods by police and mental health services. I would like to have my property returned and leave this vile country. 2 generations of my family and these corrupt public officers come here and within 2 years are bringing their vileness with them and destroying the work of good people. Whats even sadder is that they are being enabled in that behaviour.

  • “It is pretty common there that family members would obtain psychiatric medications and mix it into the food of a person without that person knowing. That’s not ethically defensible, but I think you can see it as a consequence of a society that has failed to develop other ways of addressing these situations.

    In the US, to obtain the majority of psychiatric prescriptions, you have to go to a doctor, and they have to prescribe the medication to you.”

    So Australia has failed to develop ways of addressing these situations?

    In Australia you go to a doctor, have them prescribe you benzodiazepines, put them in other peoples food or drink, and then when they collapse you plant a knife on them and call mental health services. Then, once the police have thrown them into the back of a police van and delivered them to a locked ward, a doctor can then prescribe the drugs that were administered without their knowledge 12 hours before they even knew of the existence of the person, and after they were administered to conceal the criminal offence (an offence in and of itself, compound or conceal evidence of a criminal offence). They can even use the effects of the ‘spiking’ as being symptoms of an illness the person doesn’t have to justify further drugging without consent.

    We do of course have laws that make this unethical behaviour illegal. Intoxication by deception, and stupefying to commit an indictable offence, but because police are so under resourced here in Australia, they can’t find their copy of the Criminal Code and will therefore arrest you for having the proof that you were ‘spiked’. The dilemma being that they like being able to have citizens ‘spiked’ with stupefying/intoxicating drugs without their knowledge before interrogations, can then acquiesce their duty, and have an effective method of torturing citizens not available to the personnel at Guantanamo Bay.

    I did however see a documentary regarding the use of this method in England called “Kidnapped and Drugged for Family Honor”. In that situtation the person who was ‘spiked’ in the same manner as I was, and was then kidnapped had a team of 16 detectives working on the case, and people went to prison. It was bizarre when I saw that and looked at the letter I have from a Police Superintendent saying they sent me an email, and I didn’t respond in 14 days (because I never received it) so they have closed the matter without even looking at the documented proof I have of the crimes. And here was me thinking that as a result of being a Commonwealth country our laws were very similar.

    Same drugs, administered without knowledge or by deception to enable items to be planted on me and have me transported against my will to the locked ward of a psychiatric institution where they were going to make me very sick. Of course the people doing the kidnapping were under a false impression, that what they were doing was medicine, and not aware of the fact that it was being arranged by organised criminals in our system but ….. and so they do cover ups by ‘fuking destroying’ the person who complains about their conduct. I really would like a framed copy of their “Code of Conduct and Ethics” on my wall. I get more laughs reading that than I do from watching Marx Brothers movies.

    So you lost me fairly early in your interview Aftab.

    So what was the “situation’ that my society has failed to find ways of dealing with? My ‘illness’? No, nothing of the sort. I disagreed with my wife, and she sought ‘help’ from a psychologist who had a distinct dislike for me for not wishing to be ‘sidetracked’ from a private clinic into the wallet extraction service of her husband (a psychiatrist ‘shock doc’). Do you know what happens to someone who if you have them taken away by police in front of their family and neighbours to be locked in a mental institution to save them from having potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships? You just literally destroyed their very being, effectively killed them. In fact I have been pushing for police to be allowed to simply execute people in this situation at their homes as it seems a waste of resources transporting them for ‘treatment’. Execute them in their homes and save the time and effort of trying to heal them from the damage you have incurred to find out if they need your ‘help’. And it seems that recently police have been given that power where I live, the right to shoot those deemed mental patients.

    Consider the person who cracks all the eggs in the carton to ensure they all have yokes. That’s pretty much what our mental health services do where I live. They break people to find out if they will break and call it medicine.

    And how did I become “mental patient”? Someone called the hospital, said they had drugged me with benzos and that I had spoken to a psychologist. I was then listed as “Outpatient” before the Community Nurse and police were dispatched to kidnap and torture me. All fairly clever and with zero accountability due to the negligence of the Chief Psychiatrist and Minister who both claim to not understand that their is a burden (suspect on reasonable grounds = police saw man collapsed from ‘spiking’ = mental health referral = kidnapping service for doctors = corruption runs rampant and torture and convenience killings now available) placed on the Community Nurse before detaining citizens ….. I have a letter that I will share if your interested. Though the fraudulent documents used to cover up what was done seem to be the preferred narrative by people who have the power to intimidate and threaten witnesses (they certainly did my family). Though they did fail to retrieve the documented proof I have, and now simply ignore me because imagine kicking the victim of torture and kidnapping while he was down (Operations Manager says “we’ll fuking destroy you” for complaining about this conduct) to ensure your criminal conduct was concealed? difficult to maintain your ‘good’ reputation with that sort of behaviour.

    I doubt you will read my response to your comments though I write them to inform you that you speak of Pakistan as being somehow less of a place than ‘first world’ practice. We simply conceal our misconduct with ‘unintended negative outcomes’ in the Emergency Dept a bit better, and point fingers at others for the very things we are doing ourselves.

    I will read the rest of your interview and wish you well. As Salaamu Alaykum

    “My generation is also much more mindful of social justice issues and takes them very seriously.”

    woops, I stop there i’m afraid. You all turned your backs on me, while one of your colleagues tried to murder me in the ED. Take them seriously? If it wasn’t for a cardiologist noticing what was to be done about their little problem i’d be a dead man. Because he hasn’t got the stomach for it he tells me.

    Kidnapped and Drugged for Family Honor
    “Documentary telling the shocking story of how a 23-year-old British girl was drugged and kidnapped by members of her family after refusing to go through with a .”

    Funny but thats where the quote on youtube ends…… should it read “mental health assessment” at the end? lol Of course not, they would have been given assistance by police to retrieve the proof if it did. And they would have ‘fuking destroyed’ her for complaining.

  • “See the whole thing is, you can have your issues without the labels. Why do you think the very system that labels is the one who mistreats? Does this make any sense?”

    In a nut shell. Which is about all that is left of me (and many others) when they are done, a shell.

    “It’s a joke to give someone a tag and then tell them not to identify with it. It is like me telling someone that they are an idiot but not to take my words to heart.”

    I agree Sam. I had an experience recently with someone who made the claim that they knew people who could help me. What really hurt was that I believed them. It seems the idea was to have me sit on my hands, and if anything good happened they could lay claim to the good, but if nothing happened I would sit and wait while they did nothing. To me they are as bad as those who did the original harm by creating false hope. In fact, isn’t that what the ‘mental health industry’ does? Create false hope and lay claim to any good that manages to emerge from their negligence, fraud and slander?

  • “not understanding what a vile bunch of people they really are [something they rely on as many here now know] …… I wonder what she thinks now, though care very little tbh.”

    She did obviously finally ‘smell a rat’ because she went to someone else who was waiting to interrupt the psychologist and her husbands plans for me. Something which no doubt ensures her silence now given she knows what the State will do to her if she does speak the truth. An unintended negative outcome, arranged by someone not unlike her who can be allowed to commit offences (spikings/kidnappings and …. anything really when police are looking the other way and refusing to perform their duty).

    Funny how people assume it’s my illness because what i’m saying couldn’t possibly be the truth. I don’t see the truth as being linked in any way to my illness which I deny emphatically, I was subjected to some extreme abuse by people in positions to threaten and intimidate witnesses while they did it, the State. If I have an illness by their definitions okay, but hiw does that effect what I’m saying happened. And my community is prepared to accept this being done to someone with the status of “patient”? That says it all in the end. The bitch was asking for it is the equivalent.

  • Good point dfk.

    I note that when the people at the hospital said they would ‘fuking destroy’ me, these were the very things they went after in my life. They had my wife destroy all of my family and social relationships*, they ensured I did not get access to my documentation, they ensured I was cut off from my home, and access to my money. They did a mock execution on me and deliberately baited me with lies and deceit, sent out fraudulent documents to lawyers to ensure I didn’t receive the help I was entitled to ….. and then I walked into a Mosque and got down on my knees. (funny but it was at that point that the police simply disappeared and I felt a peace I hadn’t for months. The really did push hard to have me commit suicide though) And I now know there is a God because everything He promised is coming to pass, though it’s sad that what is said regarding hypocrites is true. Yes they are all against the use of torture and convenience killings, well, when it is having an effect on their families. Otherwise, the State must have their reasons, and those reasons consist of the State not being exposed as torturers, kidnappers and refoulers.

    It confirms that they know these things you speak of, and it’s no accident when they deny the real reasons and exchange it for a preferred model that sees them profit from the sale of drugs. Judge them by what they DO, not what they say.

    * two points about why my wife did these evil things to me (and let me say it hurts coming from someone that close) [a] she had ‘set the scene’ to enable them to conceal torture and kidnapping as ‘medicine’ by dropping me with the ‘spiking’ and planting items for police to refer, and [b] they were her drug pushers (in the Steppenwolf sense), good medical people who had the power to cut off her supply of drugs. The idea that they were ‘experienced’ in ‘helping’ people no doubt a major reason she went along with them, not understanding what a vile bunch of people they really are [something they rely on as many here now know] …… I wonder what she thinks now, though care very little tbh. I understand but will never forget.

  • I couldn’t help but think of the rod of Asclepius disguised as a ladder, leading one downwards at all points in the game.

    And this
    “The young adults in the program appeared to all be in a state of identity diffusion, where they appeared to be without a formed identity and without actively exploring possibilities.”

    I was reading a little about the psychiatrist Robert Lifton and his work on Chinese brain washing. Funny how you can take something ‘we’ are doing and make it exotic by making it something ‘they’ are doing.

    It was at the point where the target was worn down and apologised that he describes the inner process that results. Before that apology their identity remained, but once they began apologising it was then eroded, they were now in a state of high dissonance where the only way out was to accept a new negative identity. This new identity was not based on them being bad, it was that their essence was bad. At this point the person loses all integrity, self worth, and a sense of true identity. And by disallowing any questioning of the new identity because that merely reinforces the fact your ill …….?

    So given that this process is exactly what we are doing in places disguised as hospitals, why is it attributed to the Chinese? I think it would be fairer to call it Psychiatric brain washing. And why brain and not mind washing?

    I wonder about the saber rattling by our Prime Minister towards the Chinese yesterday ($270 billion on new weapons, 500 cyber spies to go on the offensive). At what point will we as a Nation be brought to our knees and forced to apologise? And will we as a Nation at that point realise we are inherently evil, our new negative identity. The National Socialists who have taken over for now would need to look at themselves, and the systems they have put in place that have been so harmful to our community.

    I think that the dissonance in our Nation can be seen with our constant to and fro between China and the US. Whose our daddy? And we are constantly pointing fingers at China for doing things that we have been doing for some time. They actually have a right to protest, which is more than can be said about the ‘democracy’ I live in. We are torturing (and other vile acts) in places called hospitals and disguising it as medicine. The Convention easily overcome by changing the status of “citizen” to “patient”, and then refouling anyone who complains.

    And I don’t know why we have this fear of the Chinese taking over, didn’t they notice they bought the place some time back. Our politicians sold us out, and are now trying to get us to turn on the landlord. The 270 Billion will buy us a 38 special and three bullets, and were going to take on the LAPD lol. Still, this is the same guy that said Australians value a Rule of Law. He obviously hasn’t been into a police station lately, they tell me they don’t even have a copy of the Criminal Code, and are simply making up crimes to prosecute people for (eg they were going to arrest me for having my medical records that proved I had been ‘spiked’ with benzos before interrogation. Imagine the insanity of arresting the victims of crimes for having the documented proof? I’m assuming it was because it exposed their use of known torture methods that they are acting in this manner)

    Anyway, good article Jill, got me thinking about the identity they have tried to impose on me. I’m still not at the point where I am going to apologise for who I am. Better to die on my feet than live on my knees I say.

  • What I find most bizarre about all this?

    As police were running around trying to find out who had the documents etc, threatening people and … a whole bunch of slippery and corrupt actions, I went and showed the two sets of documents to a Member of Parliament. He sat and listened to me for an hour and a half, and I explained to him what had happened and why the documents were fraudulent and how only someone who new what crimes had occurred would know how to tamper with the evidence. he was very concerned about his relationship with police. However, he thanked me and shook my hand and said “I will open some doors for you”.

    It was at that point that some things happened really fast. Point being that at that point I only had redacted documents that concealed the involvement of police. I wrote to the hospital and told them that I had been denied the documents I had a right to and they were then provided, no arguing this time, no obstruction …… just like that. they handed them over, underacted, showing all of the offences.

    So now I have everything I need to sue the pants off these people, the doors have been opened, and as a result of the threats and intimidation I can’t get anyone to help me lol. They have been forced into stopping their vicious and nasty conduct as a result of ‘word from above’, and I can’t get anyone to help me waaahahahahaha. the door is open and no one will step through. It’s like Kafka, or Dr Strangelove. The obstruction would allow an exemption to bring action due to the delay in the provision of the documents.

    To be honest I just want my stuff back so I can leave. I kind of agree with the use of torture now. I think there are grounds for a number of these people to be subjected to waterboarding in conjunction with ECTs to obtain a confession. I’m now as bad as them 🙂 Of course i’m kidding, I could never do what was done to me. I’ve had friends who were ‘spiked’ and I saw the damage it did to their lives.

    So there ya go eh? Even when I get given a break, I can’t take it. I mean i’d like to have got my documents back so I could have worked somewhere else, coz i’ll never pay tax in this State again. I know what they are using it for, the fuking destruction of citizens by slag public officers. For police to engage in criminal conduct with organised criminals operating in our hospitals, and perverting and obstructing justice to conceal their conduct.

    Absolutely bizarre. Anyway, I thank the M.P. for being a man of honor and integrity, despite him being in a position where he could have done the wrong thing and probably got away with it, he chose to do the right thing. He is a rare one indeed, and no doubt will be rewarded for that. Shame it went that far before he became involved, and opened that door. Truth be out and let the cards fall where they may.

    “Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy… the FEAR to attack.” (Dr Strangelove) This fear has been produced in legal representatives and thus I can not bring action against these people despite having everything I need to demonstrate their negligence in court (though I doubt they would ever want that to occur). The Q.C. obviously wanted the big ‘scalps’, and has them hanging in his office now. I just want my stuff, and let me leave. These people disgust me.

    The lawyers I had approached had rang the Mental Health Law Centre and thus had been given the slander they had set up with the hospital. One lawyer who said to me “but I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the documents” obviously figured out that they were slandering because I had the proof of the spiking and was not delusional. Still, they went along with what they were told to do rather than represent their client (nothing like paying to be stabbed in the back huh?). Problem now is that these people are embarrassed about being lied to and assisting in kicking me while I was down. Come on, a divorce lawyer charging someone she calls a nut $3500 for telling him how expensive her time is? It was so cold here the other morning I saw her with her hands in her own pockets.

    I’d really like a lawyer who would actually represent MY interests. Sell the house and the money is there. Win, lose or draw, they would get paid. But I want a pit bull, not one of these sniveling cowards I have met to date. And I have kept very good records of matters, stuff that even the police find it better that they don’t know lol

    I guess you guys will never get the opportunity to put proof of torture and kidnapping in front of a Senior Constable, and then explain to him that as a result of the conspiracy to kidap that the psychologists husband ( a psychiatrist) had attempted to kill you. They of course would have a record of events, though were of the belief I was “patient”. Must admit that the last thing I would hear from a copper having an attempted murder put in front of him were the words “It might be best I don’t know about that”. [bad enough being threatened with arrest for having the proof of the ‘spiking’] Your right Senior Constable, it might be best you don’t, because your exit interview from the force is going to involve an ‘assessment’ by a psychiatrist, and let me say the memory wipe can be a little brutal. Lets hope you don’t end up being one of those people you call window lickers.

  • True Steve.

    My whole point behind suggesting the hospital be rename the Ariel Castro Memorial Hospital. To acknowledge what it actually is they behave like there, rather than mislead people into thinking there are doctors and nurses working in the place, and that healing is the goal lol

    I know most if not all of the patients I spoke to during my sentence think of rights as a joke. They live in a place where they are more likely to be visited by the tooth fairy than someone who would defend their rights. As I have shown (and can prove) lawyers are part of the reason that human and civil rights are being abused. They’re in on the game, not unlike the Catholic ‘confessional’ and the use of eavesdroppers. (Would you spy on your brother? Would you eat your dead brothers flesh? Nay, yeah would abhor it. Al Hujurat 12 ).

    Once the lawyers had identified that I had been tortured and kidnapped, they ensured they were not provided with the proof of those offences, and thus they didn’t need to provide any assistance to their ‘client’, they merely became ‘gaslighters’ by handing on false and misleading information to any and all interested parties. The hospital then free to have police retrieve the documents I had and then negative outcome me. I’m sure that if you watch the documentary about the young 12 year old boy who hung himself after being abused by one of the priests in Newcastle, and whose mother then received a visit from three of the staff at the church asking if there had been any note left, the path to concealment becomes fairly obvious. [three part doco on ABC. I can dig that section out if required]. Oh how that sent shivers down my spine after hearing the psychologist asking “who else has got the documents?” for police who obviously were concerned about who knew about their use of known torture methods. People are so disgusting when they are doing cover ups of such vile acts.

    The beige cardigan wearing psychologist would assist police in the concealment of torture lol. Still, he did provide me with two valuable pieces of information that will not be traced back to him. One being that he was subjected to threats to his family to assist police and breach his code of ethics to use therapy to gather information for them …… the other much more valuable. Boans sings along to Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap by AC/DC. So I guess I owe him in that sense. Always good to know where the traps are laid, and by whom.

  • “We ALL need weaning from the medical model! It in itself invites dangerous doctor behaviors, both in psychiatry and in regular medicine.”

    Nitpicking but is there an “irregular medicine”. I assume you mean REAL medicine. Psychiatrists are the Hells Angels of medicine, they f$%^ everything they touch. lol

    [adapted from graffiti I saw in a band room that said “roadies are the Hells Angels of Rock and Roll…….. ” author unknown]

  • Apologies for the broken messages.

    I guess that what I have is a glimpse behind the curtain of what happens when someone is subjected to torture and kidnapped by my State. That has come about as a result of forces beyond my control. Why I have been left to live eludes me, because it is patently apparent that anyone who is subjected to human rights abuses by our mental health system will be “fuking destroyed” with the full support of the State. Not like I can refuse to pay taxes for that viciousness, and whats the point of having the power to do that if your not going to exercise your right?

    But, here’s my main point. It says in my Book that people who would conceal the truth with falsehoods are evil people. And these acts of negligence, fraud and slander are not ‘isolated incidents’, as stated above these people are organised. And yes, they will get away with their abusing of human rights for some time due to the hypocrisy of those claiming to be advocates who turn and run at the first sign of trouble. One sees this in basic military training, take the money, wear the uniform and then turn and run when it’s time to fight.

    Now what I would suggest is that 9 years is enough time to sort this out. I was tortured and kidnapped, and when I complained about that public officers did certain things to try and conceal those facts. They sent fraudulent documents to my legal representatives and then attempted to overdose me in the Emergency Dept. Funny, but that is actually lawful due to the need to ‘dispatch’ certain ‘cases’, and thus nothing can be done if doctor decides he wishes to get rid of a few, police will need to look the other way while he does. But, they failed to retrieve the documented proof of the kidnapping and torture, and as a result of the interference of someone failed to overdose me.

    And what was a bit of mischief by a Community Nurse doing a favor for a couple of little ladies turned to shit, and they have been trying to cover the stink ever since. Sure, i’m the one that’s been ‘bronzed’ with their shit, and I get it why you all have left me for dead.

    Like the psychologist who spent the time finding out the facts from me, only later to have to tell me “it never happened” due to threats by police to remain silent and find out “who else has the documents”…….. he would have known what they were trying to do, a further covering up of their torturing and kidnapping of citizens for organised criminals, and he ended up with a pants load. Not cut out for work in the locked wards ….. yet. But Zimbardo explained how to create the environment where that can occur fairly quickly, the Lucifer Effect. It needs to be a gradual introduction, a slow leading astray.

    It’s all there. My State government is simply ignoring the truth now, despite them being fully aware that they have been enabling torture and kidnapping. Living in the hope that no one looks and that threats, intimidation and coercive methods employed by police will see time pass and the old excuse of “oh it was so long ago now, what are you still upset about”. I’m sure it was all an accident blah blah blah. Funny how people make up excuses for these people. I even heard a psychiatrist of all people (who I would expect to be open to possibilities) say “they wouldn’t do that”. My response was, “they did that, but you just chose not to look”.

    In some ways I’m glad my time over the past 9 years has been totally wasted. I’d hate to think I had contributed anything to a community that would torture, kidnap, maim and kill people and disguise it as medicine. I realise that I would have enjoyed the company of Hermann Goerring (such great taste in art) but I didn’t agree much with his political beliefs, and would not have assisted him is the promotion of them. Glad I haven’t assisted my government in the promotion of theirs. I can live with my conscience without the needs for drugs, can they?

    Just another day firing the ovens, and just doing their jobs I suppose. And as long as they keep it as whispers in dark places and deny the right to respond to slander, they will continue with their vile conduct unchecked. They must know something you don’t right? People who would commit acts of fraud the likes of which was done with me are not to be trusted when they say “trust us”. Trust in haste regret at Leisure lol Fortunate that advocates can be bought off, threatened, and have fraud provided to them by the State to conceal their human rights abuses. In fact police tell me you can be arrested for having the proof of the State committing acts of torture, what the offence is even our Attorney General can’t say (nor can he say who accepts complaints regarding torture because no one gets past the refoulment stage apparently) but, i’m sure they can ‘plant’ something and make some stuff up. As they have done on so m any occasions here, though it’s usually after the person has served 12 years that we find out, our justice system totally perverted by corruption

  • Yes Linda, but what is worse is that I am not alone. Though most people who have been tortured, kidnapped and unintentionally negatively outcomed didn’t have the documented proof. So they may have survived as a result but would find their lives fuking destroyed for no other reason than to conceal the truth. I have spoken to people here at MiA who fit that profile. It’s a bit like we know who the others are as a result of shared experiences.

    Personally I have made a decision as a result of being ‘left for dead’ to focus on digging my own grave. I get why no one is prepared to stand up and do anything about what these people are doing, well…… until it is their daughter or grandchildren, home, career, sanity that is being fuking destroyed. Then they will look and find they too are left on their own, and being subjected to the same abuses. the people doing this actually have a model, it’s the same one exposed by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, and these people concealed child rapists for 40 years, so when they do decide it can’t go on any longer, and the Minister is seen for what he is, someone who slanders anyone whose truth doesn’t fit his preferred reality, then maybe we will get somewhere. Until then I guess the can live in denial with their hypocrisy providing psychological protection from their dissonance. Our last Minister stating about women who were complaining about being sexually assaulted in the hospitals “you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” (documented in the Hansards). Its a standard method of silencing complaints where I live, ask our current Minister. Dog whistle slandering.

    What I can say is that I believe the information I have is vital to this community. Many people are being harmed, and the people charged with providing protection from that harm are being derelict in their duty. And not in some random manner, they are organised. The Operations Manager who fuking destroyed me knew exactly what she was doing, and it was done with malice, and the authority provided from the Ministers office.

    I do hope someone has figured out what I am saying and that they can warn others. I get it that the trauma of being tortured and kidnapped has resulted in what may appear to be an ‘illness’. I don’t know, and to be perfectly honest I don’t care. Call being sad for a couple of days an illness if you like, just don’t use that as a justification for some rape therapy. Sure, now the claim is I am “kicking against the pricks”. No, the pain this animal is feeling in his foot, and which I am kicking against is being inflicted deliberately to conceal the harm being done, also deliberately.

    Okay, I accept the slander if you will. But please check what I am saying. Some have, and have found it necessary to assist in further concealment of their negligence, and on it goes. Those deaths that occurred after they were warned are not the sole responsibility of the people who outcomed them. Though there are people who now can not do anything about those doing that evil because of their, at first, altruistic evil. There were nurses who were acquitted in Nuerenburg as a result of not understanding what they were doing was wrong. There are those here who were fully aware that what they were doing was wrong, but they scheme to make it appear that they have a right to do it. Not unlike a night club rapist looking for a way around consent, though they don’t view themselves in such a manner. They are ‘healing’ people who are desired by the whole community, heroes who are rightly above the law as a result of the neglect of those with a duty to do something about their misconduct.

    I’d write a book too. Even offered to pay someone to write up what I have, but they had me talk to a Q.C. and then threw me under a bus due to the truth being so ugly, and the fact that important people can not be held to account. The conflict of interest not exposed until after they had the information they required.

    Anyhow, good luck with informing people of what can happen as a result of being ‘snared’ by these people. can’t say I blame them, if someone were to offer me a heap of dough for harming people and calling it medicine I might say from where I stand now I wouldn’t do it, but I don’t know how I would react if I were made an offer I couldn’t refuse. Not unlike the people who helped me till the police started threatening them, then the ran away afraid for their families. Meh, we know who they are, history tells us.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM0EiWgcr1Y

    “That one looks Jewish, and that ones a Coon. Who let all this Riff Raff into the room. There’s one smoking a joint, and another with spots. If I had my way, i’d have all of you shot” Note the labelling by the delusional? Sounds like a DSM writing workshop lol

  • Interesting twist in my situation. Lets just say it was lawful for police to refer me to the Community Nurse and I am delivered to the hospital as “referred person”.

    Referred person has lost their right to liberty, but has not seen a psychiatrist yet and therefore is not a “patient”. And as such has not lost their right to consent.

    So what happens when a doctor (senior medical officer) wishes to do a physical examination without the consent of the referred person who they have locked in their cage? Just assault them and if they give you any problems stick them with a needle full of anti psychotics is the method used here. Claim later it was an emergency if they manage to get beyond the dribble therapy and make a complaint. Hey, get the Minister to call the complaint an illness.

    Absolutely disgusting how depraved some peoples behavior becomes when they are exposed to an environment where they are unaccountable. We saw the results of that at Abu Ghraib. And I mean this guy was also an Ordained Minister, so while he was shaking when he did the examination (which is a euphemism for the assault), he really knew he would not be held to account and had someone in a position where he could have them restrained while he removed their clothes and inserted objects into their mouth or anus without consent. Sounds bad but …….. i’m sure he knew God was watching, and asked forgiveness for his trespass, and then gave himself that forgiveness.

    The question remains, did he know what he was doing was wrong but did it anyway? The fumbling and shaking when I said “you do not have my consent to conduct this examination, and if you do it will constitute an assault” answers that question.

  • “We were trying to save your marriage”

    Talk about having a hammer and the whole world becomes a nail. Because as I have pointed out elsewhere this Community Nurse knew I wasn’t a “patient” but obviously thinks that if someone calls the hospital and has drugged someone into unconsciousness, that someone needs to be locked in a cage and force drugged.

    Now let me say this that there is a reason for the existence of the Mental Health Act, and I have been through it a few times and I can’t find the bit where it says that the powers afforded Authorized Mental Health Practitioners is to be used to “save marriages”. There are some “exclusions” and yes, I get it your can’t write down your locking someone up and force drugging them because they’re black, you have to make it sound like it’s because they have an illness. But that’s easily achieved, and the documents I have are a great example of how to achieve that through he corrupt practice of ‘verballing’.

    And I suppose I have to cut him some slack as it may have been a Folie a duex, though his role is not to give diagnosis, but to deal mainly with the hospital “outpatients” and do the odd police referral assessment. So why did police refer? I was asleep. That’s it, that’s considered “reasonable grounds to suspect that a person is suffering from a mental illness”. That’s your protection from being snatched out of your bed and delivered to a hospital for an examination by a psychiatrist. Police found you in your bed asleep. Now of course in my instance they didn’t find the knife that had been planted on me, though they have said they did. Odd lie here and there, no harm comes of it right? Well, few people have done life sentences for it but …. not the liar 🙂

    And dispatching police resources because they have a Community Nurse on the line requesting their assistance in “saving a marriage” has them responding like the heroes they are. I mean at first the documents show that Boans “tried to sort it out with the family but the family took nephews side” and started threatening me. Risk? well, not really so on the next document we read under personal observations “thoughts of harming others”. Now as I explained o this Community Nurse yes I had a disagreement with the nephew, and it did get heated, but I said “your three weeks too late, that was weeks back and I have no intention of harming the nephew”. So how did he observe my thoughts by travelling back in time? And why did other become others?

    Because he was desperate to save my marriage by showing me that if I dared say to my wife that I was leaving, she could then call him and he would have police come round and take me to the hospital and drug fuk me till I changed my mind. I can see how that might work. Use the resources of police and mental health services as your own personal thugs to have your will imposed on your partner, and save your marriage. And of course if I were to complain about domestic abuse? The assaults? Drugged, tried to stab me in the chest with a large carving knife. Well, in the process of saving my marriage the Community Nurse tends to make those matters disappear. the drugging well that sort of lasted until he made me into the perpetrator with his changing of narrative. And the confirmed attempt to plunge a knife into my chest when I said I was leaving? Not even worthy of a mention, though it did get quite a reaction form those present when it was confirmed by my wife.

    Funny how easily words can change narrative and justify any action you wish to take. Lucky this guy can’t just knock on anyone’s door and snatch them, oh wait, if he tells police your a “patient” they then flag you and now you are.

    Save my marriage, what a crock. That became the justification for concealing the ‘spiking’ from me, which of course is also a serious criminal offence, conspire to pervert the course of justice, conceal evidence of a criminal offence. In for a penny, get the proof back and kill him, quick coz police aren’t going to be able to neglect their duty forever, and for now they still think he is a “patient”, so we can do whatever we want to bait him and hopefully they will shoot him for us.

    These people disgust me, but it’s those who have looked the other way, and then the likes of the current Minister who is actively slandering me that make me feel sick to the stomach. Complaining about this conduct is an illness according to him. That in a ‘democracy’? He is after all infallible, omnipotent, and never wrong. He simply ignores the truth and replaces it with his preferred version of it. Hopefully he will be replaced with a version of someone who has honor and integrity at the next election, because they are traits he is obviously lacking.

  • Consider, the person who ensures that abuses by psychiatrists are identified and acted upon is the Chief Psychiatrist.

    The Mental Health Law Centre sends a complaint to him regarding my ‘detention’ and ‘referral’. The file/documents show that a number of serious offences have occurred including the torture and kidnapping of a citizen, which has been concealed using what can be termed ‘trick cycling’. Get police to do your dirty work (procure and kidnap for you) and anyone complains use them as a foil to conceal your criminal conduct. The Community Nurse created the appearance for his colleagues that he had received a referral from police, when what he had done was lie to police and claim he needed assistance with a “patient” knowing i had been ‘spiked’ and would have items planted on me when he called and said they were on their way to jump me in my bed. s. 68 (e) – s. 195 – = lawful police referral. ‘Verbal’ the target up (Form 1) and have police do the kidnapping on a Form 3 transport order.

    The hospital investigates because they have lawyers requesting the documents, and they can’t send them a letter with the documents asking they engage in a criminal conspiracy to conceal the torture and kidnapping, so they send a fraudulent set, and have police retrieve the ones I have.

    The lawyers send a complaint based on the “edited” set of documents they have been provided and complain about not being given access to unredacted documents (that is the method of ensuring that human rights are not being abused).

    The Chief Psychiatrist then sends a reply with the belief that the documents have been retrieved and that he has examined the file and finds nothing to see. In fact he doesn’t even know what a burden of proof is and is enabling arbitrary detentions and the use of the corrupt practice of ‘verballing’ on statutory declarations. Asked about why the lawyers were provided with “edited” documents he says the documents were requested under FOI Act and thus could be “edited”. This despite the three letters included in the complaint which were headed APPLICATION FOR DOCUMENTS UNDER THE MHA, and the first line of the application stating THIS IS NOT AN APPLICATION UNDER THE FOI ACT. Bizarre? And I wouldn’t want someone who examines such letters and then makes the statement that he was “under the impression the documents were requested under the FOI Act” dealing with such important matters when such obvious evidence can be overlooked.

    Of course with the documents retrieved he was free to write such rubbish, because no one was ever going to know that I was tortured and kidnapped apart from him and the people who concealed that from my legal representatives. Unless …….. I turn up 2 years later in a police station with the documented proof of torture and kidnapping.

    Now consider, he has acted as if no one was ever going to know that he has viewed the documents and that the crimes he has seen would ever be known about. Lets just keep slandering Boans and fuking destroy him. But now I have police threatening to arrest me for having my own medical records that show what the Chief Psychiatrist had access to when he wrote his response to the Law Centre (ignored by them and handed on to me, a poison pen letter aimed to do psychological harm and have me commit suicide).

    So what happens now we have the documents the Chief Psychiatrist had access to showing the torture and kidnapping? And the response that was made with the belief that the documents had been retrieved by police, and that the cover up had been semi successful (the killing obviously a failure). It shows exactly how the authorities respond to legitimate complaints, and there are some serious concerns for the whole community, because they don’t like being caught out kidnapping and torturing, though they are doing it.

    Its an interesting set of documents that show how these abuses are rampant, but also how nothing ever gets done about the abuses. I say nothing, these people had to work very hard to conceal the torture and kidnapping, and it involved a lot of ‘hands off’ stuff by police (you take out a VRO, and we can then detain him while you get the documents back form his property, and then cancel the VRO before he gets the chance to respond to it in court). Getting my wife and others to commit offences that they would then ensure were not prosecuted. Just doing their job I suppose snatching a citizen from their bed and delivering them to a hospital for ‘treatment’ for an illness I didn’t have with drugs that would have made me very ill I am told by someone qualified to speak about such matters.

    So what do they do now the game is up? Ignore me, and threaten anyone who offers me any assistance. as you would when you can not be held to account for serious criminal conduct. Police can’t find their copy of the Criminal Code they tell me so ….. off they go.

    Personally I got the impression from the Convention against the use of Torture that there were “no emergency provisions” and “no superior authority” meaning that the Chief Psychiatrist doesn’t get to cover up known acts of torture. However, given he can rewrite our law (see the letter of response) and his argument from authority is accepted by the Corruption and Crime Commission (yes they were informed of these actions and went along assuming the cover up had been sucessful) I suppose the Convention and any Human Rights agreements mean nothing. Just conceal the evidence and fuking destroy the victims.

    And now? The Minister continues to slander me for attempting to bring this to his attention, because police simply refuse to take the documented proof of the fact that they were witnesses to my torture and kidnapping. Whether they were active participants or passive stooges only they know. And like the hospital I am certain that any documents they would provide under FOI would be “edited” so whats the point of making application. The law is an Ass where these people are concerned. Our Prime Minister stating that Australians are a people who value a Rule of Law? He should take a look at these people and eat those words.

    With a mechanism like this to conceal human rights abuses? And I have the proof of how it is being done. Negligence, fraud and slander. And the person charged with the protection of “consumers, carers and the community” simply ensures that the evidence of wrongdoing has been concealed (even if that requires misconduct) and then ensures the victim is fuking destroyed.

    I guess at the end of the day when the people who are supposed to be protecting us from criminals, get together with the criminals and start working together we shouldn’t be surprised by any of the horror stories we hear coming out of these places of torture. The assumption being that the people being subjected to the abuses deserve it (they must have done something right?) Well, yes I did say I was going to leave my wife as a result of her family threatening me. And the hospital Operations Manager who did the cover up told me that “we were trying to save your marriage”. Such a noble cause how could I dare to complain about them torturing and kidnapping me to find out if I was insane or if I was of sound mind and therefore permitted to leave my wife. I had no idea they got involved in such matters, I do now, though a little late as I had to be fuking destroyed as a result of their noble cause. Personally I think it was an excuse made up after the event to try and conceal their conduct. Such good people and he is making all that noise about being snatched out of his bed and locked in a cage and interrogated whilst stupefied without his knowledge. Can I put this ‘treatment’ on my credit card, or does Medicare cover it?

    They provide such a service in the US? A marriage councelling service if you drug your partner and plant items for police to find? Locked in a cage and tortured for 7 hours because someone wants it done? They do here. And the protections of the law are actually pretty good, its the people responsible for enforcing them that are the problem.

  • Keep in mind that (a) the Mental Health Law Centre was provided with a set of documents that removed both the proof of the ‘spiking’ with benzos, and the involvement of the police to obtain a referral under s. 195 of the MHA.

    Procuring being a crime, and calling police for assistance with a “patient” you knew wasn’t a “patient” is a serious offence. I had a job once where I got free pizzas, why shouldn’t a Community Nurse get to do a few kidnappings as a benefit of the psotion?

    Also keep in mind when I speak about the doctor being promoted, that was up until I showed the two sets of documents to a politician. Not sure what happened to him after that, though I am guessing that as a result of the “Targeted Review of Emergency Dept Admissions” and the number of unintended negative outcomes that exposed, that he (along with the psychologist who conspired with my wife, and her psychiatrist husband) all left the State. Who tipped them off is another question i’d like answered, though given the way police have been assisting these criminals I don’t think i’ll ever get the facts of that matter either.

    Whats a few killings between friends anyway. I mean get a stomach Doc. It’s tough at the top.

    I am of course not discounting the possibility of my governments policy of killing the people they torture being ‘worlds best practice’. As someone who has been subjected to their torture, it may actually have been better that they snuffed me, rather than subject me to a slow painful death and fuking destruction for complaining. And thus the destruction of all my personal family ties and friendships would at least save the people who loved and cared about me from watching while they are doing it. There’s perhaps a glimpse of their humanity. Cost benefits? Much more to be made from a corrupt psychiatrist and his psychologist wife who are sidetracking people into a ‘medical snare’ (of ECTs) Check the numbers folk. Get rich quick scheme. 7 weeks full time of ‘therapy’ or a few sessions with the wall socket (6 hours as opposed to 7 weeks?). Kill Boans and tell his family it was the chemicals that got imbalanced that made him think he was tortured. they’ll believe it, what choice do they have, they’ll do them too. And not a soul prepared to even look at the documents. Why would that be I wonder?

  • I’d encourage you to keep writing too Eric.

    Its difficult to know what to say when I don’t hear voices. Other than the voices of past conversations brought up again and again, “your useless, your stupid, you’ll never amount to anything…….”. Okay, so I crawled out of the place I was raised (how fascinating that it was nicknamed “suicide towers” as a result of there being people coming from miles around to jump off the building).

    Depressed might be a fair term for what I have suffered over the years, but I look back to those years living in fear in a ghetto and wonder about the chemicals that were getting unbalanced by that place (the sickness was in the environment I believe). I remember nearly being hit by a man I went up in the elevator with who then jumped from the 7th floor. I always wanted to ask him why the 7th when their were 9 floors. For good luck?

    The pen truly is mightier than the sword.

  • Thanks Sleep in the Stars.

    you write

    “for the crime of being overwhelmed and trusting that a “help line” clinical social worker would actually be helpful, I was met by police at my place of employment, put in handcuffs and taken to a facility for “assessment”.”

    I see you had “potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships” that required you to be taken into custody in front of your significant others too. Imagine having to do damage to reputation and meaningful relationships to avoid the potential. (my potential was avoided by dragging me out of my bed, and having me “assessed” out the front of my home with car loads of public officers and police who had parked on my in laws garden. I asked for a ‘receipt’ from the person having me detained by police and was given a “with compliments” slip from my kidnapper given that he couldn’t provide me with a copy of his fraudulent statutory declaration used to justify his criminal actions. I might have noticed he had traveled through time and space to make his observations. Imagine that people are being incarcerated and force drugged based on hearsay. Wouldn’t police love to be able to do that, all the problems with gathering evidence solved.

    Still it really matters very little anymore. My State is torturing and then killing anyone who complains. And who am I to change that.The silent majority that voted for Euthanasia (though they never showed us the data, just stated a 85% of people want it) obviously want the State to be allowed to torture too.

    What confuses me is that someone spotted what they were going to do to me, and interupted the process before I was killed. Why? I will never understand why they stopped them before they killed me, and not after. To be cruel and subject me to further torture? I haven’t seen my family for 9 years, not a chance I will ever work again, not a speck of my property I have access to (not even my documents such as birth certificate or passport, family photos etc). I was told by a public officer they would fuking destroy me, but why not let them just kill me? I mean they were responsible for a number of deaths AFTER my unintended negative outcome was interrupted, so they didn’t interrupt to stop the killers. They went on to do more……. and maybe I will never know why our police and politicians refuse to take my witness statement regarding how they are doing these killings. What they don’t know can’t hurt them I suppose. Or would their negligence hurt them? The fact that they were warned about the torture and killings and did nothing until the proof was dropped on a Member of Parliaments desk. It was fascinating to watch them scatter at that point.

    So I think about those killed after me and wonder if it was them who got the best part of the deal. Because the people who have a duty to act on these crimes don’t wish to do anything other than continue to utter with the fraud set up by the hospital after their “formal investigation” (that produced one document, a letter to me rewriting my complaint to a question they wished to answer. I allege I was tortured and they say, donuts for lunch).

    Still, as long as they are prepared to ‘all be in it together’ what is the public going to be able to do? Doctors using the Emergency Dept as their own personal slaughterhouse? Who wouldn’t want that option available to them for all that hard work done by ghost writers for their University degrees? Mummy didn’t pay to get me into a good college for nothing.

    What Boans knows. The doctor who came at me with the needle on the 2nd of Jan 2012 who I believe was going to ‘hotshot’ me, and was snatched away at the very last minute……. was promoted to head of the doctors union. I was evicted from my home in the clothes I stood in and pursued to retrieve the documents I took with me. I managed to hide them before police could check on my “welfare”. Fraudulent documents were then sent to the Mental Health Law Centre that concealed the methods used to obtain a referral (ie conspire to stupefy and commit an indictable offence, namely kidnapping). Lawyers did eventually send a complaint to the Chief Psychiatrist who responded with a letter the lawyers didn’t have time to read, but were prepared to hand over to me. This letter contains some of the most bizarre claims I have witnessed in all my years working as a public officer (though I believe it is what is known a s a poison pen letter designed to gaslight the victim of public sector corruption and have them kill themselves)

    I wonder if in the event of my death MiA might consider publishing that letter (and the complaint from the Law Centre) to give others an understanding of the standard of psychiatric care in my State and the “protections” afforded the public by the person charged with that duty. It is positively offensive, and basically says ‘I don’t know, not going to ask and fuk off we’ll do what we want despite it being criminal’. I have of course distributed it to many others though they have their families safety to think about. I feel sure that American citizens would not fear repercussions by the Australian government against their own citizens. While my own government seems happy to allow the Australian government to torture their citizens, I know Canada (and I assume the US) do seem to have an interest in what is done to their people, and would no doubt ACT on proven acts of torture.

    Definitely the baby is dead, has been for some time now, and the pea soup that is in the bath stinks and should be removed immediately. Or if we must look at reform, maybe we can put what is left into a jar and store it with Walt Disneys head in the cryogenics tank? Ay least the stink will eventually dissipate, and some future generation can take it out and thaw it?

  • “It is like eating pork and not being privy to the animal’s internal experience, nor it’s actual physical abuses that continue over a long period.”

    I often wondered about the selling of pork without informing people the swine had been given human growth hormone. Is this cannibalism? It certainly seems to be getting close to the edge.

    Speaking of cannibals, Jeffrey Dahmer was assessed as being perfectly sane, but the people he was killing and eating were by definition of the DSM mentally ill. Is this cannibalism to eat the mentally ill who are not considered human by our law? It certainly seems to be getting close to the edge. lol

  • “And no one gets to “prep” the official “assessor” with any lead-ins, like ……” I’ve ‘spiked’ him with benzos and planted a knife and some cannabis for police to find and provide you with a referral, and conceal the crimes your about to commit (torture and kidnapping). If you keep the ‘spiking’ between you and me you can do your ‘assessment’ while he is suffering an acute stress reaction and is spiked with benzos without his knowledge Mr Community Nurse. You now have a bright future in the use of known torture methods, and can use police to assist you in that process.

    One might think that the law would protect citizens, and on the surface they do appear to do that. However, given that acts of fraud and perjury are seen as being “noble corruption” by the state when committed by public officers in the performance of their duties, they can literally do whatever they wish and it will be concealed by the State authorities.

    Miranda rights are as easy to get around for mental health professionals as they are for police. They stamped my documents saying I had been informed of my rights which consisted of me telling the nurse to shove it where the sun don’t shine. I already knew that where filthy ‘verballing’ public officers are concerned, you have no rights. And any legitimate complaint will result ion you being ‘fuking destroyed’.

    In a State where police make comments to one another about 8 year old boys like “If the little black bastard gives you any trouble, shoot him” you think you will be treated fairly?

  • “At one time, harsh restraints (shackles) and intense, lengthy periods of isolation were pretty much the norm in the public institutions known as “insane asylums.””

    Nothing like a ‘chemical restraint’ when there is no National Standard to shackle and isolate for long periods of time. So now were in a time when it’s just like “a little bit of abuse”?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6KXEBkyi6M

    Consider the words carefully. I walked out on my abuser only to be ‘spiked’ and have items planted on me to have me returned to them for more abuse. After assaulting me for 7 hours I was then thrown out on the street and police assisted the criminals to conceal what they had done to me (tortured and kidnapped).

    I really liked this comment by Pacific Dawn

    “so long as you believe that you need Recovery, then you will never be able to strike back. You will always be believing that you have to wait, wait for what I do not know.

    Recovery is just another way of turning the onus for the problem back onto the survivor.

    Recovery is based on the idea that there is still something deficient in you, and that that has to prevent you from striking back, from reclaiming your social and civil standing.

    Asking for pity will never get you anything other than more abuse. But scoring a victory of violators will give you a validated social identity. People respect those who fight back, but not those who ask for pity.

    Someone who believes in Recovery is actually hurting other survivors because they directly reject the idea of fighting back. Its like they have become their own internalized Psychotherapist.”

    and

    “The Recovery Movement is based on a presumption of moral defect.”

    Throw the baby out with the bathwater and END PSYCHIATRIC ABUSE

  • “The “mental health” system is a child abuse covering up system, by design.”

    It certainly makes me wonder SomeoneElse about all the victims who had survived long enough to testify at the Royal Commission, and who had no doubt told their stories (given their testimony) to ‘mental health professionals’ only to be turned away, slandered, drugged and ‘gaslighted’ for speaking truth to power and then one day those who had survived were finally heard.

    I can’t help but think after my experience that it is the result of the negligence of these people that they feel the need to continue to enable these abusers rather than deal with them head on. For example, my torturer and kidnapper. they do a cover up for him and ‘fuking destroy’ me, and then 2 years down the track the truth raises it’s ugly head again, and there have been another dozen people harmed as a result of his misconduct? (he laughed when I said I would have something done about his criminal conduct, fully aware that he would be supported with further criminal conduct [fraudulent documents to the Law Centre, and whilst many would assume that they were going to brain damage me to silence me, why bother when one can use the Emergency Dept to slaughter, no one is looking after all. And it is THEY who are deciding what is “reasonable” and not the Law] by his colleagues I assume) They can’t now admit they did a cover up and as a result more people were harmed, they would be seen as being responsible. So they bury it deeper this time (as they have done in my instance, and while they seem to have stopped attempting to have me murdered, I’ve no doubt from the slanderous conduct of the Minister, they do wish I would ‘go away’. Suicide leaves a lot less blood on their hands, and he is after all kicking someone who he knows is already ‘down’. He didn’t get to the top by not having the stomach for these sorts of things).

    And then there are those ‘advocates’ who won’t look due to being hypocrites and doing what they are told. Look the other way while we deal with this little problem or we will do your family too. And I get it police can be intimidating when they are threatening your family.

    The excuse given for enabling these child rapists was that it was not seen as being a criminal offence, but a “character flaw” and the perpetrators had ‘repented’ and were to be given another chance, and another chance, and another chance …. and you get the picture I’m sure. Personally I would have thought they may have stopped giving chances before there were more than 300 victims, but it seems their ability to forgive some people (those like themselves) is endless. This does not seem to apply to others unlike themselves and unfortunate enough to find themselves in the care of these abusers.

    I have seen how police even when presented with documented proof of serious crimes will do the bidding of the criminals and ensure the space is created for these ‘cover ups’. They are complicit by their omission and dereliction of duty. And they should be ashamed enough to use their position to conceal their misconduct. They are not exactly going to stand up and admit to aiding and abetting someone who has abused so many children proudly. Of course they wish to conceal that fact. They were taking them back to their abusers when they ran away in some cases, after hearing of why the child had run away. Just doing their job.

    There is one who they can’t conceal it from. “So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign Lord” (Ezekiel 22;31).

    Good news is my Lord has been with me the whole time, through all of my trials. I shed tears for these people who deny the truth and ‘fuking destroy’ people for no other reason than to conceal the truth. And how sad that these people are elected representatives sitting in our Parliament writing laws they ignore when the truth no longer suits them. “suspect on reasonable grounds”? I think not, and hence the rewriting of the law to remove the protection afforded the public from rogue doctors and organised criminals to “suspect on grounds we believe to be reasonable”. That works for the criminals, not so much for a defenseless public your Highness Chief Psychiatrist. It is a direct enabling of arbitrary detentions for his collegues, though would be unlawful if we could find “someone to build up the wall” (Ezekiel), but no one can be found to enforce the protections when the person charged with that duty is derelict in it.

  • “to defend the 5,000 others in the same situation”

    You mean they were wrong when they passed these laws through Parliament and said it would only effect about 80 people who were ‘slipping through the cracks in the system’? Oh 80, 5000 its a small difference.

    “Kerry had been unquestionably deprived of her right to give “free and informed consent””

    They get around the need for ‘free and informed consent’ in my State (Western Australia) by slipping you a ‘mickey’. They then conceal the evidence/proof by providing people like Justice Action with fraudulent documents that removes the proof of the spiking, and then slander the person as being delusional from claiming they were spiked. Quite clever when you think about it making the truth a poison swallowed by the victim . Every time they tell someone about it, the slander kills them a little more.

    “She lives at home, and therefore legally isn’t defined as a patient.”

    I’d check that. Not sure about the MHA in NSW but if she is on a CTO and has a treating psychiatrist and is being ‘treated’ then she is considered a “patient” (outpatient). How else could she be coerced and forced? In fact this is how our police are torturing people here in WA, by having their status changed post hoc and thus being able to deny them any human and civil rights. Torture citizens, hand them over to mental health services to make them into “patient” post hoc (s. 195 Police Powers) and the torture sessions can be concealed using the methods you describe, with the added benefit of being able to distribute fraudulent documents to legal representatives.

    There is an Operational Directive in place here to protect human rights that allows legal representatives, on provision of a confidentiality agreement, to view unredacted documents. Though the problem being that they are not provided with them when the documents prove the use of known torture methods being used. (the mechanism ensures the use of torture is brought to the attention of authorities first and thus allows for cover ups via fraud) In fact, police can be dispatched by hospital staff to retrieve any proof of torture, and then they send out the fraud. That way when lawyers make complaints on behalf of their ‘clients’, the authorities can respond with a poison pen letter that the lawyers are told not to read, and to hand on to their’clients’ who will hopefully not recognise the way the protections of the law have been misrepresented.

    Our Chief Psychiatrist writes that the protection of “suspect on reasonable grounds” (with a set of criteria in s. 26 of the MHA to be met to make referral lawful) is now “suspect on grounds they believe to be reasonable” (which means that the s. 26 criteria no longer matter) and we now have arbitrary detentions available as a result of his dereliction of duty, and the “expert legal advice” he provides to the Minister.

    I’m sure there are law students at you organisation that know more about the law in regard this first year concept than the person charged with protecting “consumers, carers and the community”.

    A quote from a journalist asking a controversial Muslim preacher about his views.

    “implying that anybody who disagrees with you is not basing their views , or their facts, on reality because you are right and they are wrong. Isn’t that the very definition of extremism?”

    One can’t even have our Chief Psychiatrist recognise the very laws he is charged with administering. Does this not demonstrate we are trying to deal with extremists?

    Anyhow, I wish you luck in your attempt to ‘advocate’ for Ms O’Malley. Though I think you will find your up against an opponent who does not have to play by the same rules as you. In my instance they have conspired to pervert the course of justice, committed acts of fraud, tortured and kidnapped, police can’t seem to find their copy of the Criminal Code while a doctor sorts out his ‘little problem’ in the Emergency dept, and the idea of getting an ‘advocate’ to assist in exposing the misconduct of the Minister well (see Corruption and Crime Commission Act s. 28 Mandatory reporting of suspected misconduct with penalty of more than 2 years prison. See Hansards re question to Minister regarding number of reports to CCC, ummmm none. Why would you report misconduct when you believe you have done an effective cover up? Failure to report being an act of misconduct 🙂 [“who else has got the documents?” and is thus aware of the cover up? and thus the fact the Minister has been “derelict in her duty” to quote her shadow outside Parliamentary privilege])……… good luck with that. All those unintended negative outcomes they exposed as a result of their negligence will ensure that nothing is ever done. You’ll just have to trust us, despite their ‘history’.

  • I say above they can lie to the public. The courts have identified this lying as being a ‘massaging of the truth’.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzUAcPSFykE

    The targets appear to be the ‘disabled’ (genetically inferior?) who are particularly vulnerable. I like the question raised by the now ex nurse regarding where does one turn when the person abusing you is the person your supposed to turn to when your being abused. I can appreciate her problem now I know that there is no avenue for complaint regarding the use of known torture methods by our police. Not even the Attorney General can direct me to the appropriate authority due to the fact that they deal with complaints via refoulment and fraud with the assistance of legal representatives. It’s not that we never torture, we just ensure that no complaint is ever heard with a ‘massaging of the truth’, and the slandering (or ‘fuking destruction’) of the victims.

  • I agree with what you say mik.

    “But through this period, their characters apparently will remain unblemished.”

    Oh no, their contact with ‘mental health services’ has been recorded and like a cancer may sit there for years before being activated should there be a need on the part of some doctor to ‘bring them in for questioning’. Then , like me, they might find themselves being dragged out of their bed by police for no other reason than they were asleep (reasonable grounds for a mental health referral in Western Australia), that they can be ‘spiked’ with stupefying/intoxicating drugs, injected with a “chemical restraint” that may take them within an inch of their life, and any complaint might result in an ‘unintended negative outcome’ in an Emergency Dept if they continue to insist on the fact they have human and civil right (a known delusion in the area of mental health as a result of the lack of protections of the law which have been removed via the negligence of those charged with a duty to ensure their enforcement ie the Chief Psychiatrist and Minister).

    [“an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder”. If you have no rights as a result of the dereliction of duty then surely it is delusional to believe you can sleep in your bed when a doctor wishes you to be delivered to a hospital by police for treatment of an illness you don’t have, with drugs you don’t want, and your complaint is proof of this delusion. “You live in a democracy? Nut job; billing code 12bfu’ed”]. I couldn’t help but be effected by images of Jewish people being dragged from their homes in the 1930s, and the similarity to the way Mental Health Services simply call police to have people dragged from their homes here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOoRiI8HVU&t=20s

    Combined with our introduction of a “wild” (or decentralised Euthanasia program I have concerns about where my community is heading. There are laws to protect the public, but one can not have them enforced as a result of the negligence of authorities who are enabling this National Socialist environment, and denying a right to access remedy in the courts via fraud and threats to legal representatives (all lawful as a result of HCA 47 [2010] ACC v Stoddart). They can lie to the public who have no right to access the truth (fraud), and they can threaten and ‘coerce’ to deny access to legal rep. Even down to retrieving documents (my own personal medical records) and then replacing them with fraud (to lawyers) to conceal acts of torture by police and mental health services. Got to be a dollar in this for me knowing how to do this, and the good news is it’s so easy. Torture, kidnapping, maiming and killing and it can all be disguised as ‘medicine’ and not a damn thing the victims can do about it?

    So they are certainly not “unblemished”, it’s just that for now we need to control the flow of victims through the system to not overwhelm the hospital with new clients. Aren’t they in for a surprise when they are introduced to the ‘new normal’? Because I simply can’t imagine doctors letting such a great opportunity to change the status of so many people to “patients” and profit from that to pass without at least grabbing as many as they can. Like snake whacking day on the Simpsons lol

  • In Australia it isn’t. But then again it also isn’t the case that if you retain the services of a lawyer that they will represent YOUR interests. And what better way to torture people than to be able to deny them access to a lawyer who represents YOUR interests.

    In my State they will assist in identifying where the crimes occurred and then aid in the distribution of fraudulent and slanderous documents, and get you to pay for it. FACT. So I don’t know that it is of any benefit in having access to legal representation. The priest will maintain confidentiality in the confessional, but not so much the eavesdropper. Same system is at work in our legal fraternity here (see Nicola Gobbo for example)

    It does seem a very important question though to not be sure of the answer. Do you have a legal right to representation before being subjected to kidnapping and torture (disguised as medicine)? And can that representation be subjected to coercion to have them provide consent to what are called ‘treatments’ (though minus the change of status consist of acts of torture).

    I can’t even be told by my government what drugs I can be spiked with, or who has the power to do that to me. I know I can, because the Community Nurse who has no prescribing rights allowed it to be done to enable the planting of items for police but ……. who else?

    Sure brings into sharp relief what Dr Gotzsche and others are saying about the drugs causing the illness. This is obviously known about by the Community Nurse who allows ‘spikings’ and then writes down the effect as being an illness that needs treating with the drugs they spiked with.

    I would ask a lawyer about the issue of the right to representation but I can’t find one in my State that even understands the protection of a burden of proof in law. Either that or they are assisting in the gaslighting of a person who was tortured and kidnapped by the State as is now being slandered while they turn their backs and assist. I think the latter is more likely.

    Maybe someone with a knowledge of the law in the US might know if this right exists?

    And my right to access my medical records (in an ‘unedited’ form)? Sure I understand why there may be situations where I can’t have access, but even with legal protections a hospital can send fraudulent documents to lawyers when they contain proof of serious criminal offences? There is an Operational Directive ensuring the right of legal reps to access unredacted documents to ensure the protection of human rights, on signing a confidentiality agreement. The exception being where the hospital has kidnapped and tortured a citizen, then they seek instruction on how to conceal those crimes from the legal reps, and police will assist in retrieving any documents that may demonstrate the fraud. Can’t have citizens running around with documents showing they were tortured by police and mental health. What next, people knowing how they are doing ‘hot shots’ in the ED to dispose of witnesses?

    Its a tough job being in power let me say that in their defense. Tampering with evidence with impunity makes it a little easier but …. I guess the worry would be that in 40 years someone might say “this was wrong” like they did with these priests who were spreading the love of Jesus, though that euphemism seems to have been dropped for the more common term of child rapist.

  • “You have the right to have an attorney present during this ‘assessment.’””

    Is this true in the US?

    I consider my situation where I specifically asked to be allowed to speak to a lawyer and was denied that right. Of course had I been provided with that right, then they would have had to tell them that I had been ‘spiked’ with benzos to assist in torturing me, because they knew I would under no circumstances speak to a filthy ‘verballing’ public officer, hence the need to torture.

    I had been detained by police because of the knife and cannabis that had been planted on me after I collapsed (s. 68 [e] Criminal Code) but police did nothing more than jump me in my bed and before even speaking to me made referral under s. 195 of the Mental Health Act (Police Powers) to the waiting Community Nurse. How did they form the suspicion on reasonable grounds that a man asleep in his bed was suffering from a mental illness (other than hearsay which is not considered “reasonable”)?

    My legal status was thus I was under arrest, and was referred to mental health services for ‘assessment’, though the reality was I was being subjected to a conspiracy to stupefy and commit an indictable offence namely kidnapping. Just because police were present and being used as a tool to torture doesn’t mean it was lawful.

    However, if they were actually doing this lawfully, would I have the right to legal representation in the US? Not here, I was denied the right to speak to legal rep, and to speak to the person who they were claiming was my Doctor (to sort the matter out) The Community Nurse was fully aware that I was not by definition of the Mental Health Act a “patient” and that what he was doing was criminal. This matters nought to people who are using the Emergency dept as their own personal slaughterhouse though.

    And of course what we find in that the people at the Mental Health Law Centre are prepared to accept fraudulent documents from the hospital to conceal the use of known torture methods, and are not actually acting in their clients best interests. Their funding would be at risk if they didn’t assist in the concealment of the use of torture. And they would be fully aware of the need for the citizen to be a “patient” by definition before engaging in acts of what would be torture if the person did not have said status. Money well spent by the government to fund a Law Centre that is used as a tool to conceal torture. Not that they care, their on the side that wins every time, and they can then accept fraudulent documents regarding the unintended negative outcome and spread the word “nothing to see here” to anyone else who might look.

    Human rights advocates? I wrote to them and openly declared they were part of the human rights abuses they were enabling. Along with the politicians who remain silent on these known abuses. This method of enabling torture needs to be understood by victims of these people. They are not representing YOUR interests at all. And they have no respect for a rule of law, preferring to pervert the course of justice via fraud and the bearing of false witness.

    Just noticed Johns comment below. In my case the process involves the Community Nurse having police ask the question and then answering for you to make the ‘referral’ to him appear lawful. There are protections in our laws from this being done (under the crimes against a persons liberty) but they don’t have any respect for the law so ……. just abuse it and any problems fuking destroy the person complaining. Simple when you have a slaughterhouse available. Though some don’t have the stomach for what they are doing, but guess why we have a perfect human rights record and zero breaches of the Convention against the use of Torture? Even the Human Rights Commission and our Attorney General can’t say where a person makes a complaint about the use of torture. Because dead men tell no tales.

    So can mental health workers call police and ask them to snatch anyone off the street in the US? I get it that what is now being done under our new Mental Health Act are labelled ‘welfare checks’, but where is the protection from a doctor who calls police and says deliver this person who I have never met before to a hospital because I wish to treat them for an illness I will make up when I examine them?

    Or are these welfare checks simply a kidnapping service provided by police for doctors? They want someone dropped at a hospital to be unintentionally negatively outcomed and call police who suddenly without reasonable grounds have concerns for your welfare.* Reading the torture methods used by our police in the Kennedy Royal Commission and the Black Deaths in Custody i’d have concerns for the welfare of anyone who came into contact with our police.

    * without personal examination it is unlawful for a doctor to diagnose and then treat without consent. Problem being that they would need to gain access to you to do that. Calling police and expressing concerns about someones welfare if you are their doctor is one thing (though still hearsay), but when you don’t even know the person?? And of course if police have received hearsay evidence and then go and check, how many people are NOT taken into custody and ‘referred’ to the doctor who wants the person kidnapped? Still with police with no respect for the law it, and who simply do what they’re told it matters nought.

  • Simazine, I was always taught to not use the word “poison”, we will treat your garden with “chemicals”.

    Rather than poison each individual weed though, why not treat the ground they are growing in and get rid of the lot in one hit? Something like a mass drugging program. Hey, did I mention that drug addictions are now, under our new Mental Health Act being directed away from police and criminal justice, to mental health services?

    “They wouldn’t do that?” Right? You bet your life they would, and a nice little earner it will be to use the words of ‘entrepreneur’ Arfur Daily lol

    While on the subject of plants and poetry, one of my favorite poems by William Blake

    O Rose thou art sick.
    The invisible worm,
    That flies in the night
    In the howling storm:

    Has found out thy bed
    Of crimson joy:
    And his dark secret love
    Does thy life destroy.

  • “One of the points I make in my book is that the psychiatric evaluation that led to my commitment seems to have been performed while I was unconscious.”

    And imagine how I feel having written confirmation from both the Chief Psychiatrist and the Minister for Mental Health that a Community Nurse (who has no prescribing powers at all) can arrange to ‘spike’ citizens with stupefying/intoxicating drugs to enable the planting of items for police to create the appearance of lawfulness (ie provide him with a ‘referral’).

    Of course this is my insanity at work here, because the law says no such thing. Its just that once a person has been slandered with the mental health system finger point, it is so easy to destroy them in so many ways. So despite me writing and pointing out these serious criminal offences to the ‘authorities’ they continue to deny access to remedy or human and civil rights. They simply continue to utter with what they know to be a fraudulent narrative, that I was a “patient”, when they know this to be totally untrue, false, a known LIE. But they’re the ones in a position to pervert the course of justice and then conceal the truth.

    I get it, they are torturing and kidnapping, and using the Mental Health Act to conceal their vile conduct. Our Minister then claims anyone who has the proof of these human and civil rights abuses is in need of ‘treatment’. That ‘treatment’ can include what has been euphemistically called an ‘unintended negative outcome’ mainly because their is no National Standard as to what constitutes a “chemical restraint”, and without a confession that the intent was to kill, one can not prove that the person was ‘snuffed’ for convenience.

    But why am I being denied the right to take my property and leave this place? Go right ahead and kill as many as they deem necessary, but count me out. It is my firm belief that by denying me that right, they create the appearance that they have done no wrong, and ‘manage’ their problems and open up the opportunity for ‘refoulment’.

    I ask anyone who doubts what I am saying to tell me where it is I make complaint regarding the use of known torture methods, and the subsequent fraudulent documents sent to my legal representatives to ‘cover up’ that use of torture? I get it, its ugly, really ugly that the State is denying access to effective legal representation in regards people slandered as “patient” and creating a ‘dark place’ where human rights are being abused. But my State is the one who signed an agreement with the UN in regards to the use of torture. Can we then trust any agreement they sign? For example, are they going to distribute fraudulent documents to families legal representatives if a doctor wishes to side step the protections in the Euthanasia Act? Because the Minister writes that he is okay with that being done, given it is being enabled in regards to ‘mental patients’. Simply change their status post hoc as was done to me to create the appearance of lawfulness.

    Anyhow, I thank you for informing people of whta is occurring in these environments Ms Comac. I wish I had the assistance I require to documents and publish exactly what has been done to me, or had the ability to write through the trauma that has been deliberately inflicted on me to ensure my silence. But I don’t, and when I did seem to find someone who was going to help, they threw me under a bus as a result I believe of threats from the State. Police actively engaging with organised criminals, and we can’t have the community becoming aware that doctors are using police as a torture and kidnapping service by ‘spiking’ and then planting the required items to have citizens kidnapped and delivered for ‘treatments’ against their will.

    They disgust me, and I am forced to live among them, these ‘good people’ who turn a blind eye to torture, kidnapping and convenience killings disguised as medicine. Not all of them obviously, there was one doctor among them who “didn’t have the stomach for it” (speaking of what they were going to do to me for complaining about being tortured and kidnapped). And imagine the fact they can claim money from ‘Medicare’ for doing this to people? We’ll fix up the paperwork later if anyone notices he wasn’t actually a “patient”. Police will provide assistance with that by retrieving any inconvenient evidence/ documented proof.

    Though that doesn’t help the negative outcomes that were done before they noticed what they were going to do to me. Possibly best their families are not made aware of the real reason they were burying their loved ones. That is that the Operations Manager and the Law Centre covering up these crimes created the opportunity for further criminal acts. Still what can one do when their is no possibility to make complaint regarding the conduct of a State Minister to the Ombudsman (nice little loophole that one). The ‘watchdogs’ are toothless despite the “no emergency” and “no superior authority” provisions in the Convention against the use of Torture. The Minister can, and IS authorising the use of known torture methods with anyone with the status of “patient”. And well, I can show you how to achieve that change of status in three easy steps. Drop em (with benzos), drop a knife in their pocket and drop a dime in the phone to mental health services (and they can then call police for assistance with their soon to be “patient”).

    So their behaviour might be considered “reprehensible”, but not a soul prepared to do anything about it, despite the claims they are ‘advocates’ and are believers in human rights. They soon turn and run when police are threatening their families, as I’m sure most Jewish people can attest to. Quick to turn their backs on you as long as it isn’t them being ‘treated’.

    I must admit their is a certain level of understanding when these people actually speak the truth. The threat by the Operations Manager to “fuking destroy” me for complaining was a relief. At least we now knew what this was about, and not pretending it was about ‘medicine’ anymore. This was just people being vicious to get their own way (threatening my grandchildren, slandering me to all my social contacts, etc …. i could write a book but it was already written by Victor Santoro), and knowing they had access to the means to destroy people, provided by the tax I and others pay.

  • “Given those comparisons and connections, it might be advisable not to bring in federal active-duty troops right now, but rather to bring in the psychiatrists. We very well might have a better understanding of how to deal with our inborn tendencies”

    What about situations where psychiatrists bring in the active duty-troops, like Radovan Karadzic? Quoted as saying to “create an unbearable situation of total insecurity with no hope of further survival of life”. Sound familiar? I quote the Operations Manager who dealt with my complaint regarding the use of known torture methods and kidnapping. “We’ll fuking destroy you”. Perhaps they’re related? Or is it an ‘industry standard’?

    I must say I just can’t see the Taliban being frightened by a squad of psychiatrists armed with needles and a copy of the DSM under their arm, though they should be.

  • Watch as I jump out of the frying pan and …… do people not understand that police with guns AND drugs are more of a problem that police with guns?

    In my instance the Community Nurse used the police to induce an acute stress reaction to assist him in subjecting a citizen to an act of torture. Okay, so we expect our police here to torture, they’ve been doing that for years (see the Kennedy Royal Commission report into police conduct which sets out the fact we were doing what they do in Guantanamo Bay in the 1980s, and then some). And these people who are literally unaccountable (because police can’t find their copy of the Criminal Code when one has the proof of torture and kidnapping, as they commit acts of fraud to make a citizen a “patient” to deny human and civil rights) want to take money from police and fund their viciousness? Lets hope the public are as aware of the negligence, fraud and slander that is called ‘mental health’ as a result of years of these human rights abuses being whispered about behind their backs.

    Lets take the opportunity to defund the police AND psychiatry

  • “It adds confusion and makes it easy for the psychiatric industry to continue to convince people that they need to see a DOCTOR, rather than a friend or spiritual guide or wise elder or another person who understands what it’s like to be in your circumstances.”

    Trouble is that the friend, spiritual guide or wise elder then refers you to a doctor these days, for the very reasons that Bob W pointed out in his book. They have lied to these people and made false claims regarding the effectiveness of their drugs. Lets not mention the oppositional tolerance problem. You guys know the story …… and of course what also isn’t mentioned is how much money one can make by ‘directing’ people who can be made into “patients” into certain types of “treatments”, if they can be jammed like a square peg into a round hole.

    https://theworldnews.net/au-news/fake-psychologist-pleads-guilty-to-fraud-charges-as-police-probe-continues

    Here’s a guy who gets it. A 23 year old claiming to have 10 years experience in the mental health field (which means he has been in practice since the age of 13). Seems police have found their copy of the Criminal Code, though I guess the complaint was made by a ‘professional’ and not a ‘walk in’ with documented proof of torture and kidnapping police wanted the ‘professionals’ to deal with in that…. cough cough, we’ll look the other way while you outcome him kind of way. If only he actually had the qualifications he would then have police assisting him with the scam.

    “as the profession contains some of the most mentally ill people I have ever run into.”

    I prefer the term morally ill, as the ‘disease’ seems to reside in the heart not the mind in many cases. They are of the opinion that what they can hide from the eyes, can not be seen. Like a visual cliff. Oh how wrong that was shown to be, if you had seen his face lmao. Right in the middle of a convenience killing lmfao. We now see what was in his heart 🙂

  • << imagines the day when children watch the 1034th rerun of Frazier and ask "daddy, what's a psychiatrist?" and the reply is "son, there was a time when people thought it was a good idea to empower a privileged white male with the ability to select people based mainly on the color of their skin for what they called 'treatment'. They made lots of money but in the end the people we call taxpayers decided that loading their pockets with money for damaging perfectly functional human beings in what were experiments that went very wrong at a certain point was a bad use of their dollars. So we sacked the lot of them, threw most of them into prison and fed the rest to cane toads and made a reality tv show out of it. You remember Steve Irwin and his saying 'Croaky'? Well that's where that saying came from."

    We must have hopes, wishes, dreams 🙂

  • “Psychiatry only makes sense when you look at it from the perspective of eugenics.”

    It’s a powerful statement streetphotobeing. I guess when you look at it the line really has to be drawn somewhere, and unfortunate that ‘life not worthy of living’ in my community seems to be directly correlated with how much financial gain can be extracted from individuals called ‘patients’.

    I once said to a psychiatrist that I saw her as a gardener, going through and removing the ‘weeds’ in the same way I applied glyphosate to the unwanted ‘plants’ in my garden. weeds being a definition matter in as much as a person can become a ‘patient’ to justify taking action against them that would otherwise be considered unethical. (both plants, one desired and wanted, the other unwanted and difficult to remove before it reproduces)

    In that sense I feel like Chance the Gardener in Being There, “I understand” 🙂

    What they don’t seem to understand is, it’s not their garden, and they, like a noxious weed seem to have taken a hold. Did someone say Plague (KFC)?

  • “There is an element of psychosis in the action of restraining and drugging the “psychotic!””

    Certainly what I observed from Dr “i’m the Boss around here” just before he found out he wasn’t the Boss around there and had to leave his little task assigned to him by one of his Bosses. He really needs to learn to disguise the psychosis which shows in his eyes while he murd …. I mean unintentionally negatively outcomes people in the Emergency Dept.

    “But most of us are not trained to maintain control in such situations in a professional manner.”

    So true. Nurse, could you give this to patient X? I guess they get a little eager, and ‘hands on’, when they’re young.

  • “Apparently the hospital was falsifying records indicating that physical activity was being provided. In truth, the only physical activity was an occasional, supervised group walk on the hospital grounds. ”

    Aww that old fraud. I think people would be shocked (not ECT’ed) to find out how the successes of mental health services are manipulated through fraud. Not that they care really because all the money being thrown at mental health is going to a good cause. I’ll give you a clue, it isn’t healing patients.

    “They had been prescribed by the psychiatrist without any discussion or explanation. This dishonest practice violates New York State Office of Mental Health regulations, which require that the purpose, possible side effects, and alternatives to the drugs offered be explained. No one had even discussed the side effects of the one antidepressant drug I’d agreed to take.”

    Do those “regulations” require that the purpose, possible side effects and alternatives to the drugs be explained to someone who is unconscious? Because I think you will find that once you have achieved the status of “patient” they don’t have to do jack *&^% for you, as seems to be borne out by your article. It’s like the invocation of “emergency provisions” which at times consist of a person using the term “no”. Check the last line of those regulations, I think you will find it’s the ‘flush button’ that throws the whole set of regulations out. I know in the ones that apply where I live it basically says, “if there is a conflict in the above, doctor wins”. So if as a doctor I don’t inform you of something, and you think it was important, tough.

    In my instance I made a complaint about being snatched from my bed after being ‘spiked’ with benzos and having a knife planted on me to obtain a police referral (and create the appearance of lawfulness). This was investigated and I was informed that should I continue with my complaint I would be ‘fuking destroyed’. So in my instance the year I lost everything, psychiatry offered negligence, fraud and slander to ensure that my complaint about their use of known torture methods and kidnapping were covered up. They literally took everything i had ever worked for because of the need to conceal their criminal conduct, and my community has turned their back on me because ‘medicine’. Amazing what they will do to get people the ‘help’ they need, and how much of an effort their colleagues will make to ensure they don’t see what they are looking directly at.

    Mind you, I can’t say I actually had a problem with the psychiatrist, it was the filthy scab lackies who operate on a lynch mob mentality that were the problem. They seem to think that it’s about doing their best to mislead the psychiatrist into their way of thinking, which is to do what it is THEY think is best for you. Which is in general directly correlated with what is best for them funnily enough.

    Anyone know what drugs this young man who has been arrested in Britain on ‘terrorist charges’ was prescribed for his “mental health issues”? Any use of ‘enticements’ (gaslighting) to check his willingness to engage in terrorist acts before ‘closing the file’?

  • “Days after the incident, I filed a complaint. My complaint disappeared into the ether of the healthcare system, where all things that enter dissipate, never to be seen again.”

    I filled out a formal complaint regarding my ‘treatment”, noting the section of the relevant Act regarding “misconduct” and then had the nurse provide me with a copy, before it was handed to the doctor the complaint was about, and was disposed of in File 13 (more commonly referred to as the trash bin).

    I guess he wasn’t informed that I had been given a copy as the complaint referred to an act of misconduct under s. 4 of the Corruption and Crimes Commission Act, and the disposal of that document might constitute …..

    CORRUPTION, CRIME AND MISCONDUCT ACT 2003 – SECT 171
    171 . Destroying evidence
    A person who, knowing that a document or other thing is or may be required by the Commission or Parliamentary Inspector, wilfully destroys it or renders it illegible or undecipherable or incapable of identification, with the intention of preventing it from being effectively used in evidence, is guilty of an offence.

    Penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years and a fine of $60 000.

    If a complaint is made regarding misconduct, and anyone were to destroy that document (even if the act were to not actually constitute misconduct) then …….. good chance the inspector might require a formal written complaint regarding an accusation of misconduct?

    Big problem when I asked them to investigate what had occurred regarding my complaint, and they responded in writing. I won’t go into details but …… It was patently apparent that they LIED regarding their investigation, and what had actually occurred with the formal complaint. They did request a copy of my copy to enable them to go back and insert the copy to conceal the offence (the fact that I had a copy and they didn’t the proof of the pudding), though I declined the opportunity to provide them the opportunity.

    Anyway, my point being is that when making complaints ensure that you keep a paper trail. Whilst the person who committed this offence will no doubt be forgiven his misconduct, we do have something to hold over his head now and ‘coerce’ him into signing off on acts of torture for us. Quite happy to sign prescriptions post hoc for spikings before interrogations by police 🙂 Probably scared to go to prison.

    “Throughout the essay, I put certain words in quotation marks. They indicate words I once used compulsively as a psychiatric provider.”

    and now use compulsively with “quotation marks”?

    Anyhow, glad you seem to have woken up to the bs.

  • You know Sam, one of the things that shocked me when I was trying to make a legitimate complaint to police regarding the conspiracy to torture and kidnap (and that IS what it was) was that a doctor could simply call police and request that they not take the evidence/proof from me because “patient”. Nothing more, I don’t want you to take the evidence from this person Sargent because they are my “patient” and I will deal with them during ‘office hours’.

    Now I get it that if we start holding people accountable then doctors and police are going to get involved in conspiracies to murder on a much larger scale than present but …..really? It’s as simple as calling police and asking them to commit offences for you? Because a failure to perform your duty is a criminal offence.

    Can I prove what i’m saying? With access to witnesses who have been threatened and to the call that police received and then ‘flagged’ me as a result of yes, definitely. But what does this mean even if I do? That I expose that police are working with organised criminals operating in our hospitals? We know that anyway. That’s how these types of things happen and no action results from them. A telephone call to police and they will ensure NO ACTION IS TAKEN.

    All criminal of course but who are you going to complain to? A ‘watchdog’ that our Prime Minister has labelled a “kangaroo court”? That simply justifies their position and results in further corrupt links being formed.

    Boans leaves home for the police station with daughter and documented proof of drink spiking. Wife calls psychologist who has psychiatrist husband call police and tell them not to take evidence of spiking. I haven’t even met the guy, but that’s some power to be able to call police and tell them to turn a blind eye to crimes, while you arrange to kill the person in the ED. Lucky the police don’t believe me, because it would make a whole bunch of work for them if they found out how many unintended negative outcomes they were actually doing in the ED. I’d like to say life is cheap, but in certain circumstances that isn’t necessarily true lol. Someones got to pay for the Porsche.

  • Yes, I do realise that. In fact, if you look carefully at the actual function of the various Mental Health Acts, there raison detre is precisely that, to provide “lawful sanction” to perform what would otherwise be called torture against people who now have the status of “patient”.

    The methods used at Guantanamo Bay were ‘enhanced coercive’ and did not constitute torture. This is crucial in understanding what is and isn’t being permitted by our respective governments. Mock executions and threats of pack rape are coercive, or may constitute ‘soft torture’ at best.
    If Tyrannies torture by making it legal, then I live in a tyranny. Our Mental Health Act, combined with ‘police welfare checks’ enables the use of known ‘hard torture’ methods, as I believe I have shown for some time now.

    Look away though, blowing the whistle in a tyranny usually has some negative outcomes that are without the ability to prove intent dealt with in ways that are considered unintentional.

    If one makes torture legal, is it then torture? The loophole is in the “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction”. In my State all that needs to be done is to provide police with the lawful sanction (eg plant a knife and cannabis and the target is now in breach of s 68 e of the Criminal Code, and lawful sanction applies). They can now place their knee on your neck and apply pressure to stop you resisting arrest, and when you become unconscious can apply pressure to stop you from passively resisting arrest.

    Combine this with the ability of a Community Nurse to administer drugs without the knowledge of the target, and then hand their ‘patient’ back to police for interrogation? Who then hand them back once they have the information/confession they require so that the target gets treated for the mental illness they are about to get diagnosed with by a real doctor, who will also write a prescription for the ‘spiking’.

    And all this can be concealed with fraudulent documents sent to the lawyer of the target. (though I’m certain they never thought I was going to figure out that they did that. The concealment of such serious offences for the time being being overlooked by our police who find dereliction of duty highly effective).

    What has interested me has been that my government has been open in criticizing other third world governments for the exact same conduct they are engaging in here. By ensuring no right to remedy and that the authorities do cover ups while doctor has an unintended negative outcome we van appear to be meeting our obligations we ratified under International Law. Dead men tell no tales, and even our Attorney General can’t tell me how I make a complaint regarding torture (that is a right under the Convention). I believe this is because no one ever makes it to that point, police simply drop them at the Emergency Dept and make them “patients” and the problem literally disappears for the reasons set out above.

    Anyhow Will, I’m with you in the defund police thing. They aren’t policing by consent anymore (but by force and terror) and like making torture legal, they are no longer police, but a 1% Security Company. We need to recognise that just because they have the badge, doesn’t mean they are what they say they are. We here recognise that calling drugs medicine is a trick of the light.

    “They will take their oaths as a cover”

    If you have difficulty understanding what i’m saying, feel free to contact me. I understand that me publishing (and educataing) public officers in the use of torture methods may be a problem. And as is known I have been traumatised by what I have been subjected to, and I am not a good communicator. Public interest? Not according to the people who are torturing citizens. But I’d call that a conflict of interest.

  • “Why is it, then, that we as a society treat people’s life difficulties with psychiatric drugs and other mental health treatments rather than lending a helping hand?”

    I thought when I read this that actually we don’t ‘treat’ anything with psych drugs. We simply change the shape of it and call it treatment. If I put my foot on a baloon it changes shape, but it’s still a baloon. And with enough force applied in the right way look, I can make it burst.

    The other thing I noticed was mention of trickle down economics. The only thing I have seen trickling down has been what looks like a ‘protein spill’. I guess that form of recycling by the elite is seen as their contribution to the welfare of the planet lol

    “Australia, A land of corporate gains” (a land of sweeping plains), where ‘branch stacking’ isn’t the weight of the fruit crops. lol

  • “Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. Her prophets white wash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say ‘This is what the Soverign Lord says’ – when the Lord has not spoken. The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery; they oppress the poor and needy and mistreat the foreigner, denying them justice. “I looked for someone among them who would build up the wall and stand before me in the gap on behalf of the land so I would not have to destroy it, but I found no one. So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign Lord”

    Who would have thought that the prophet Ezekiel would have seen what would occur with psychiatry all those years ago? And yet I thnen read the letter to the Thessalonians from Saul and realise he too saw ‘the Man of Lawlessness”.

    “It is the people who haven’t lost enough that I am beginning to feel sorry for. They seems so afraid. So paralyzed. Or even delusional.”

    “And God sends upon them a Great Delusion, that they might believe the Lie”.

    This is not medicine. It does not heal. It merely allows people to commit acts of robbery, extortion, and oppression and to deny justice etc… read the quote It is literally all there. And you have every reason to feel the way you do.

    I too ‘looked for someone among them’ and you know what, there really isn’t anyone. That despite Gods law. I understand how the Chief Psychiatrist has in his letter perverted the law of the land but ….. Gods law? We no longer like ‘thou shalt not kill’ and ‘thou shalt not bear false witness’, as this gets in the way of providing people with the health care they need. So we have made killing people a medical procedure, and forced drugging possible based on nothing more than fraudulent and slanderous statements regading peoples behaviours we haven’t even witnessed personally. We literally make it up, and then swear before God it was what we saw. And by ensuring that we are in a position to neglect our duty to hold those who would commit such offences against God to account for their evil deeds, and claiming that this is what the Soverign Lord says, we can watch as our communities fall apart. Good news in that is that this is precisely what is meant to happen.

    “Her priests do violence to my law and profane my holy things”. I can think of no better example than a Minister for Mental Health who does not recognise the burden of proof for incarceration and forced drugging by rewriting that burden from “suspect on reasonable grounds” to “suspect on grounds we believe to be reasonable”. The removal of that protection for the community allowing doctors the right to deliberately harm anyone they wish for any reason they wish. Of course if their moral standards were high then we could possibly trust them with such power, but look at what has become of them. They wander through the wards looking to attach themselves like leeches to anyone who has insurance, and will make people deliberately sick to extract wealth from them.

    “and I looked for someone among them who would build up the wall ….. but found no one”

    Thiose with a duty to act refuse to do that duty. The consequences of that are made plain. Let their fraud, slander and negligence be the end of them.

  • “No one did anything, because why?”

    I’m sure you know the answer to this Sam but……. because ‘mental patient’. Nothing, and I mean nothing, takes you to the ‘we don’t care what happens to you’ faster. That’s valuable information to have, but its a fools errand to think that these people want that to change. The label is like a knife, useful as a tool to achieve a beneficial end, but also highly likely to be plunged into your back when you least expect it by people who you made the mistake of trusting. Make sure your backs to the wall when you hear the words “got insurance?” lol

    In fact there’s good news in this for me. I wondered why no one did anything when I pointed out I had been tortured and kidnapped, other than distributing fraudulent documents and trying to ….well I like the euphemism unintentionally negatively outcome me.

    The good news is a psychiatrist told me that “they wouldn’t do that” and therefore it must be true, and my illness can therefore be treated. I’m certain these people have checked what i’m saying ( there was after all a “Targeted Review of Emergency Dept Admissions” by the Chief Psychiatrist and any mischief would have been dealt with if there had been any. Coincidence that the psychologist and her psychiatrist husband left the State in a hurry and …. my illness getting away from me because “they wouldn’t do that”. But what if they did do that? And we kept believing that they wouldn’t do that? And nobody did anything other than send out fraudulent documents? And I get it that no one seems to want to check those documents because if they did it might just be that they did do that, and we want they didn’t do that because we didn’t do what we were supposed to and thus the did thats become our responsibility.

    Okay, they did do that but it doesn’t look good that they did it while we were looking the other way. I’m sure I heard this in the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. They say those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it, i’m glad the people at mental health were learning how to do effective cover ups from the Commission. It will save time and money dealing with their abuses at some later date.

  • Certainly they (mental health services) are quite open about their threats where I live.

    When I pointed out to the Operations Manager that she had a duty to report the criminal conduct of her fellow officers to the Corruption and Crime Commission (under s. 28, mandatory reporting of suspected offences carrying a prison term of more than 2 years), she openly stated they would “fucking destroy” me. I guess she doesn’t like the laws that protect the public from organised criminals operating in her staff. Double down and commit further offences and drag his family in to assist with that process.

    What isn’t being addressed here is that they include your family in that fucking destruction. And she meant it, take a look at what occurred as a result of her failure to report the torture and kidnapping.

    Oh wait, you can’t. Problem is that I went ahead making complaint after complaint, and the State thought they had retrieved the documents and done an effective cover up and fuking destroyed me. And as time passed more people were unintentionaly negatively outcomed as a result of the neligence of the Operations Manager (and others she informed about her actions, ie the Minister). And those unintended negative outcomes could be directly linked to the people who neglected their duty thinking that the documents had been retrieved, and that the slandering of me and subsequent fuking destruction had covered up the matter. Exposing it now would mean that negligence and the resulting deaths would also be exposed, and they were acting in good faith thinking that the criminals had done a good job and ……. it’s awfully ugly. We thought they had got away with it so went along with destroying the victim, now we want it to be that we didn’t know about these criminals until later when we realised they hadn’t done a good job with the cover up.

    It’s a problem for the State when they go along with criminals and then later it’s found that they (State) knew about that criminal conduct but failed to act, assuming that the criminals were burying the witnesses with hot shots.

    Of course these are all good people and i’ve been told by a psychiatrist that “they wouldn’t do that” so it must be true, and my illness and the documented proof of what i’m saying must be an alternate reality, that seems to cause pei=ople to panic at the point when they figure out what i’m saying is true.

    Police arresting people for haiving the proof of torture and kidnapping? And the Attorney Genreral can’t tell me what the chages are, or how I go about making a complaint about the torture?

    Recognise that what your asking will put not only the complainant at risk, but their families. I haven’t been able to see my daughter or grand children for 9 years now as a result of complaining about these people who openly threatened to ‘fuking destroy’ me. And they have my communities support in that because they went to the trouble of committing acts of fraud to make me into a mental patient post hoc.

    Its difficult to describe the effect of that slandering on your life. And of course that alone stops people from wishing to publish under their own names. Like the ten year old documents that were ‘switched’ in the fraudulent set for the lawyers, you just never know when the slander is going to re emerge, or from where. And who will help you then? Certainly not any of the ‘advocates’ who boast about their work assisting people who have these made up illnesses. They do what they’re told by the authorities, and if that means turning their back on torture victims, they do it.

    As one psychologist who listened to me and explained to police that having documented proof of being ‘spiked’ was not a “hallucination”, he became “afraid for his family” when he was told by police that the attempted referral back to mental health “never happened” and could he find out “who else has the documents?”. The cover up exposed, and the ensuing panic to pile more dirt on the victim almost comical. They unintentionally negatively outcomed how many? While the people I was complaining to ignored my complaint because they were told it was an illness? Too late to turn back now, the Chief Psychiatrist fully aware as a result of responding to the Law Centre who were provided with fraudulent documents. And of course if they had the real set then they would have known that he knew certain things like, torture and kidnapped. And whilst it may take a little while to explain the protections of the Mental Health Act to him, he would surely see the criminal nature of the conduct? I mean if he is giving “expert legal advice to the Minister” then he would figure out what a burden of proof is eventually, rather than his preferred arbitrary detentions and authority for nurses to prescribe the ‘spiking’ of citizens.

    That failure to act when we know he had seen the documents relating to my kidnap and torture more than a problem for the State. Oh well, with the power to simply kill anyone who complains, no worries. And i’m sure there’s no need for even requesting documents when they can be “edited” to any legal narrative the State requires. If the Mental Health Law Centre doesn’t do what they’re told, then they won’t get any funding at all and will cease to exist. Where is the State going to use to find out who has the proof of their torture and kidnappings then? And what if people started being represented by legal advocates rather than thrown under a bus by them? No, much better to lure with bait, and then strike with chaos. Once the lawyers have looked and provided information as to what evidence/proof needs to be tampered with, we can then go ahead with ‘fuking destroying’ the victims of State sanctioned torture.

    And consider if the witnesses threatened by police were approached now and asked to speak the truth? They would think it was a test, be afraid for their families, and would remain silent on the criminal conspiracy. Beautiful huh?

  • “Under the doctrine of qualified immunity, government officials performing discretionary functions are immune from suit unless the plaintiff shows the official violated “clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known.””

    And with the ability to have police assist in retrieving documented proof of such violations and then turn a blind eye while mental health services have a ‘qualified immunity’ unintended negative outcome?

    I mean tell me that the Community Nurse didn’t know that ‘spiking’ someone with benzodiazepines was a criminal offence? That the training he received in not “procuring the apprehension or detenition of a person not suffering from a mental illness, penalty 3 years prison” didn’t apply to him?

    I have clearly demonstrated the violations, and what do police do? Fail to perform their duty while the hospital ‘fuking destroys’ the victim. And of course when the Minister ‘intervenes’ and has legal representatives assist in concealment of the use of torture and kidnapping, and is derelict in her duty to report under mandatory legislation, can we ignore the MISCONDUCT?

    We can do anything with fraud and uttering, especially when the legal fraternity is so corrupted that they side with the criminals rather than their ‘clients’.

    This issue of taking what one knows to be false and using it for defence is as vile as the original criminal conduct. Police refuse to act despite the proof that I was not anyones “patient”, though they continue to utter that falsehood to maintain their concealment of the use of known torture methods. They take qualified immunity to mean total immunity, and in some repects they’re right to. Who does one turn to when the State is the criminals? When they are killing anyone who makes a valid complaint regarding the use of torture? Certainly not police who simply make referral to mental health services for ‘treatment’ with a strong correlation to negative outcomes.

  • This reminded me of a comic strip I once read Sam

    It was the King in the Wizard of Id being told that “the peasants are revolting”. He looked out of his window down on the condition they were living in and stated “Yes, they are revolting”.

    Lets hope they misunderstand the groundswell that is growing right under the shadow of their big noses at present.

    As far as ECT goes, the process of investigation into the harmful effects is about as effective as the investigations our police do into unlawful killings. Any evidence that doesn’t suit is ignored, and legal protections are overcome via the ‘planting’ of evidence to deceive the courts into wrongful convictions. In the meantime the money is bleeding from the taxpayer funded insurance system into the Headbanging Docs bank account.

  • “Replacing Guns With Prescription Pads Is Not the Answer”

    This suggests an either/or situation.

    I realise that my situation didn’t invlove the prescription pad until 12 hours after I was ‘spiked’ with benzos, and after I was tortured and kidnapped and delivered to a doctor to actually write a prescription for the ‘spiking’ of someone he had never met but ….

    Lets consider combining guns and the prescription pad?

    So for example in order to ‘plant’ a weapon on me for police to find (and provide a referral to mental health services) the people who wanted me transported against my will (kidnapped) to a locked ward needed me to speak to a Community Nurse. They also knew I would not do that.

    However, by combining the use of an ‘acute stress reaction’ with a ‘spiking’ with benzos they managed to have me open my mouth long enough to be ‘verballed’ on a statutory declaration. So the combining of the gun to cause the acute stress reaction with the two DO NOTS of acute stress reaction allow one to take what a person has said, twist their words to suit your purpose and incarcerate and force drug them against their will. The administration of a ‘chemical restraint’ before they are even examined by a psychiatrist will leave them dribbling and it is highly likely they will be labelled and kept for ‘observation’ for some time.

    It is the case that the ‘spiking’ of citizens with benzodiazepines is a criminal assault however, when police are requested to assist in a “home visit” (or provide the lawful sanction required to conceal the use of known torture methods) they can then neglect their duty and assist with the kidnapping by transporting the victim to the desired location (forget the protections of being delivered to your doctor, I didn’t have one, so they delivered me to somewhere they wanted rather than do what the law required of them)

    So this combining of the prescription pad and the use of guns is highly effective in

    “obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him
    or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind”

    and if you can make the person into a “menatl patient” post hoc, then police can ensure that no action is taken against these people who are actually criminals, but are concealing their crimes as being medicine.

    Because while the

    “pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.”

    by planting a knife on the target and obtaining a referral from police (and their subsequent assistance in your crimes) the

    “pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.” loophole can be exploited because police will not act against their own acts of torture. Of course there is a case to answer for the conspiring to stupefy and commit an indictable offence namely kidnapping, but who is going to assist someone who is now dribbling in a cell from the ‘chemical restraint’ that was required to stop them complaining about being tortured and kidnapped? No one I know. In fact, most people I know would assist in restraining them.

    Two police stood and watched as I was tortured, and then took charge of me and interrogated me (documented), and then transported me on fraudulent documets to a hospital. And what do you think was the consequences of those offences? I wish I knew, but the need to conceal these offences to ensure they can be effected in future on a trusting public overrides my human and civil rights.

    There are great benefits from not making this an either/or and combining the prescription pad with the gun. Use the gun to induce an acute stress reaction and the drugs to enhace the discomfort felt by the target. I can give a referral to a dotor who will fill out a prescription post hoc to conceal the fact that the victim was ‘spiked’. And I know a hospital administrator who will distribute fraudulent documents to lawyers after police have retrieved the ones demonstrating the ‘spiking’, all in a hands off get his wife to do it and pretend we didn’t know kind of way.

    My argument has always been that there are reasons that this conduct is not permissible in Guantanamo Bay. Though our Minister for Health has a way with words that ensures that the use of known torture methods is called ‘medicine’ if you simply utter with fraudulent documents and change the status of ‘citizen’ to ‘patient’. It’s amazing what can be done to a person once that change of legal status is achieved.

    Oh, and I do think that yes it might be a white male world, but many a black man lynched at the point of a finger from a white woman. Something my wife knew all to well after drugging me and planting a knife on me for police to find (with some ‘councelling’ from a clinical psychologist as to how to avoid the protections of the law. Conspiring this is called if police could only find their copy of the Criminal Code) “Help me, help me, my wallet is going to walk out the door, and I need your help to ensure that doesn’t happen”. Not even her child or grand children but the knee jerk reaction of the State is to ‘fuking destroy’ my family. Make him into a “patient” and give me guardianship so I can speak for him and ensure he doesn’t leave with his property, quick.

    In fact, the worst part of the slanderous documents completed by the Community Nurse was the fabrication of the ‘wife beater’ information. Didn’t that cause some problems between me and my wife. Me wondering why she would lie about such things, and her denying she said it. Of course how effective was that in that all the people reading his slander then began ‘treating’ me as if it were true. The lynching analogy is just so appropriate if one is ever as unfortunate to end up being subjected to one of these ‘interventions’ that are to become more common given that they are considered lawful by my State authorities. I would highly recommend this type of slander to any filthy verballer operating in the system.

    On one hand they are passing laws to stop people tampering with food stuffs (needles in strawberries) and on the other they are encouraging the ‘spiking’ of citizens to make the planting of items for police easier and then allowing interrogations whilst under the influnece of stupefying/intoxicating drugs. Hypocrisy the greatest luxury.

  • O. O. writes “I asked local government to install audio/video recording to isolation rooms for everyone’s protection. Of course that was a violation of patients right to privacy.”

    Yes, I also asked the Operations Manager at the hospital about the instalation of cameras and was given the ‘right to privacy’ excuse. This from the same person who, when lawyers requested documents relating to a specific date and incident, went through my old files and inserted documents from 10 years before that were neither requested nor related in any way to what had been done to me.

    In fact personally I do not consider changing legal narrative to conceal serious criminal offences by public officers to be “editing”. But I do consider releasing personal and private information in a misleading and false manner to constitute slander. Unfortunately with police unable to locate theior copy of the Criminal Code they will not be able to take action on these matters, while the hospital staff arrange a little ‘tidy up’ of their offensive conduct. Off camera of course.

    Steve McCrea writes “The challenge would be getting the phone in.”

    No, the challenge would be in holding on to the evidence/proof when police attend your home to retrieve it. And when the State is ‘fuking destroying’ your family in front of your face, and your behviour is becoming exactly what they described it would with the pre attached label.

    They knew you were going to react to being gaslighted and tortured in this manner and pre empted that with the label, and are now free to drug you against your will.

    The challenge is staying alive and actually having someone not turn their back on you for having the proof. FACT. The State will intimidate, threaten , torture maim and kill anyne who dares question the authority of mental health services to ‘treat’ anyone they wish.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mentally-ill-woman-dies-in-nsw-hospital-after-falling-25-times-20170512-gw36ee.html

    Think anyone cares about video? The usual rumblings about change and … we need more money to treat people like humans.

    Cover ups using police to threaten witnesses and retrieve evidence/proof are much cheaper to do than actually prosecute organised criminals operating in hospitals. They are even using lawyers to assist in the concealment of human rights abuses. More than their licence and funding is worth to blow the whisltle. Ask the Mental Health Law Centre who accepted fraudulent documents before throwing me under a bus. Someone they knew had been subjected to torture and kidnapped. Unless of course there is some other euphemism for being spiked with stupefying/intoxicating drugs (by people with no prescribing rights) before interrogation by public officers (including police). So retrieve the documents, use the cmplaint regarding ‘spiking’ to slander as paranoid delusional, threaten and intimidate witnesses, and unintentionally negatively outcome the victim. That as a rule of thumb when the rule of law is not the preferred option.

    Many a young doctor would like the powers of a psychiatrist, but they are going to need to prove they have the stomach for it.

  • I approached someone to assist me in writing my testimony to be published. Someone with the ability to understand the medical and legal ramifications of what had been done to me. I also offered to pay for that to be done, with what few dollars I have left after being ‘stripped’ by lawyers who have assisted in the concealment of human rights abuses. I feel that strongly about the concealment of torture methods by the State

    The ‘authorities’ on the other hand see any complaints regarding their use of torture to be a criticism of them personally, and use their positions of trust to make further ‘referral’ for unintended negative outcomes.

    I’m certain that given the State has given the right for hospital management to distribute fraudulent documents to lawyers to conceal human rights abuses is going to be of great use with a “wild” (or decentralised) Euthaniasia program. Yes, they can extinguish your life and then send out fraudulent documents to conceal the fact you did not consent.

    And yes I am prepared to share these documents with anyone who is prepared to stand up and say “this is wrong”, but I’m sick of these ‘advocates’ who turn and run when they realise the State is acting in this manner.

    I see my life as a small sacrifice in this regard. I get it that they treid to kill me once already, and failed. But would I be wise to openly share my details on MiA for them to identify me and then come after me again? Or my family? Again

    As far as your right to privacy goes, you don’t have any. Not where I live. My medical records have been tampered with and distributed far and wide without my consent or authority. You think that given I have exposed the truth regadrrding these matters that my computer and emails are safe? I know they’re not, I can even name the person who ‘compromised’ my emails etc (Hi Bob J, I’d like those emails from the psychologist conforming the knowledge of the ‘spiking’ returned please. Never mind Ive got hard copies).

    I provided some personal and confidential information to a social worker many years ago, which she documented in good faith. That information was weaponised and released when I complained about my ‘treatment’. Sometimes people do things with every good intention, but others will take that information and do evil with it.

    You can guarantee the security of peoples information? I think not. I am not so much concerned about the Chinese spying on me, but my own government which is doing it with concealing their criminal conduct in mind.

    I get it that you guys find my truth hard to believe. But there are people within the system who think they have a God given right to kill anyone with a valid complaint, and conceal that as medicine. Before you slander me with ‘nutjob’, you might just want to check what i’m saying. Though the offer seems to be being rejected to maintain a false narrative that is preferred by some. My state of mental health is as a result of being tortured and kidnapped (and then an attempt to kill me to conceal those facts), and has been used to conceal the truth with police denying my human rights as a result of me being ‘flagged’ post hoc.

    Imagine a system that allows crimes to be concealed by a psychiatrist who simply tells police to send the victim to them for ‘treatment’.

    I’m more than happy to put my case in a court of law, and will provide my name in that place. Leaving myself exposed when police are knowingly tampering with evidence and threatening witneses? I’ve had enough of that already. Personally I’d rather leave this place, though I am even being denied access to legal representation and my passport, and not informed of why. How easy is it for police to get others to commit the offences and then fail to perform their duty? Accompanying my wife to retrive the documents while they ‘restrain’ me? Nice work people.

    And they point fingers at others? The ability to kill whistleblowers and silence journalists is a concern, but not one I would have in a democracy. But I don’t live in a democarcy, I live is something that gives the appearnance of one via acts of fraud, and a system designed to conceal human rights abuses.

    I think there is much to be said about organisations that protect victims of State sanctioned torture. They don’t provide lists of names to the State accused of the torture to protect the families they have left behind. Because that is exactly what mental health services do, they go after your family. Ask the Operations Manager, or better still, my wife.

    And that is what they would do to anyone with a valid complaint here, target families. The ends seem to justify the means.

  • “At first, folks may feel a person is acting strangely. When they then try to control that person’s behavior with force, is it not possible that they are causing the violence that ensues?

    Let’s leave that possibility aside ….”

    Lets not. Lets consider the situation where a ‘bait and switch’ is used. Where a person is not acting strangely but we want them to in order to justify our actions against them. We give the command to do to contradictory actions simultaneously. “Stand up, sit down” and the failure to comply is justification to place the person in handcuffs. Of course when we try to do that they ‘resist arrest’ and thus require the use of more force. So what happens when we beat them to unconciousness? Their ‘passive resistance’ requires the use of even more force, and there has been an unfortunate incident which will require medical intervention.

    And with the ability of hospital Operations Managers to distribute fraudulent documents to lawyers and other relevant bodies wishing to investigate the matters? The sky really is the limit.

    I think that as long as the data (and documents) are being tampered with, any story we wish to be true, will be. Personally I don’t consider being unconcious or dead as being “passive resistance” but there are others who are in positions of power who do. And with systems that follow the rules laid down by Machiavelli, that the ends always justify the means, nothing is going to change.

    And as long as we stay busy discussing fraud? Who benefits?

  • “I have been terrified by discussion by media people and politicians who think it’s a good solution to replace police with “mental health professionals,” given the oppressive and even violent ways that the latter have treated people who are suffering.”

    Don’t ever visit my State then Ms Caplan. When the UN stated that our Mental Health Laws were a violation of human rights and that the treatments may constitute torture, our politicians took the opportunity to invalidate that statement by rewriting our MH Laws and effectively ‘marrying’ mental health services and police. We now have a ‘mental health professional’ stationed at every single police station in the State. Which means that police can now subject citizens to acts of torture and then hand them over to mental health to be labelled, drugged and ‘processed’. And all of this can occur before you even get to speak to a psychiatrist, so we can’t even blame them.

    I can see why they were trying to shift the responsibility for drug issues to mental health (its what they do best, cause drug issues), though to do so they needed to ignore the fact that these abuses could occur. The presumtion of ‘good faith’ will, I have no doubt, result in some ‘they did WHAT?’ moments some time down the track.

    The ability to drug suspects without their knowedge before interrogations a definite advantage for the police to extract valuable information (chemical restraints all part of the service due to no National Standards). Combined with the ability to lie and the use of ‘coercive measures’ against suspects I do hope we will jnot be hearing that police are lacking the powers they need to resolve crime in our community any time soon.

    This and our “wild” (or decentralised) Euthanaisia Act should give all the powers required for cleaning up our streets, and create the illusion that it is medicine.

    I did write and ask our Minister for Health about how the ‘protections’ of his Act could possibly work given that hospitals are distributing frauduent documents to conceal their criminal conduct, and that the people who have a duty to protect the community are derelict in their duty, though he considers anyone who doesn’t suit his false narrative mentally ill and in need of treatment. Shame he doesn’t understand what due dilligence before making such slanderous statements is, he might check the proof of what im saying. How powerful he must feel signing off on acts of torture and unintended negative outcomes.

    What we now have is a system where police simply hand any and all evidence of their corruption over to mental health services for silencing (it really is very easy). I personally witnessed this when I presented them with the documented proof that I was ‘spiked’ with benzos and then tortured and kidnapped under the guise of the provisions of the Mental Health Act. Don’t like that truth so they call mental health services and request that I be picked up for ‘treatment’ for my “hallucinations”. Though are they really hallucinations when the documents prove I was ‘spiked’? Inconvenient truths handed off for forced drugging is not a good look. Though it is highly effective.

  • “There are also a good segment, by my observation, who go to NAMI to be absolved of responsibility for any contribution they may have made to their child’s distress, and these are the ones who really grab onto the “bioligical brain disorder” terminology and ideology.”

    I remember being in a very uncomfortable situation with a man and his wife, who were telling me about their daughter and her battles with bipolar disorder. As the conversation progressed it became incresingly obvious to me that this young woman had be subjected to abuse by the father, and that her disorder was likely a result of that abuse.

    Without going into to much detail I wonder if NAMI is an organisation that is being used as a means for paedophiles to silence their victims, and is beocming a place where they can congregate and further thier abuses once they realise they can slip through the net of law enforcement?

    For example it could be that people who gather learn how to get their ‘loved one’ admitted to hospital using the methods employed by my wife and the clinic pyshcologist? Couldn’t have the victim of child sexual abuse being given a voice, quick get the drugs into them and shut that mental illness up.

    I know that my wife had experience with a young woman who had been abused by her father, and who eventully went to prison for his crimes. (my wifes comment regarding “you just need to know what to tell them” when I asked her how it was possible she could just call mental health services and have me dragged out of my bed and locked in a cage for not agreeing with her). This of course did not ‘heal’ the resulting damage to the young woman who is a regular user of mental health services. It did however ensure that the father was not charged for a very long time.

    It may be worth while considering infiltrating this organisation as a means to indentify, investigate and incarcerate people who are using this organisation for purposes other than designed. As we know from history these ‘deviants’ tend to congregate in groups where they can enable one another.

    And rather than dismiss peoples claims that they have been abused with statements like that made by our Minister for Mental Health that you can’t listen to women who claim they have been sexually assaulted in a hospital setting “because they’re mental patients”, perhaps we could listen and actually test what it is they are claiming? I mean I have watched people turn their backs on me regarding my claim of torture and kidnapping for no other reason that I have been slandered with the label ‘mental paitent’, and even when I prove that this has been done via fraud they still refuse to perform their duty in spite of the law.

    It makes me sick to hear our Prime Minister talk about Australians valuing a rule of law when I know police are telling citizens who are the victims of organised criminals committing serious offences (and concealing it as ‘medicine’) that they don’t have a copy of the Criminal Code to ensure that the law is perverted. And I can imagine the ‘treatment’ anyone who has been slagged with one of these labels might have obtaining assistance form police if thay have been subjected to abuses. They literally get enjoyment from ‘baiting’ the nut jobs. I guess when one has a lust for violence they are in the right position. Armed to the teeth against a defensless citizen? Still, they do have to face their maker at some point.

  • “Historically, most people in any given societal upheaval will cling on to reformist tendencies right up to the last minute prior to when a revolutionary transformation occurs.”

    Why did I get an image of a guillotine coming down on the neck of a Marquis asking “Are you SURE we can’t come to some sort of agreement? Perhaps we can remove the tax on cakes?”

    Too little, too late?

  • “Fanon became responsible for treating the psychological distress of the French soldiers and officers who carried out torture in order to suppress anti-colonial resistance. Additionally, Fanon was also responsible for treating Algerian torture victims.” (from Wiki)

    It’s quite a history that was concealed for some time. see for example The Battle for Algiers which was banned for 40 years? I can’t help but wonder if the ‘treatments’ differed. As someone who has been subjected to State sanctioned torture and then ‘referred’ to the torturers to treat the trauma, I can’t see that he would have had much success. My government denies any use of torture and as such they could not possibly supply treatment for it as this would be an admission that they are torturing. Deny access to effective legal representation, and deny the ability to leave or seek asylum. They will only consider assisting people who have been tortured by certain governments, and provide money to NGOs who will turn away anyone who has been subjected to torture by our own government.

    “It never happened” is the standard line that comes from their mouths after police have threatened their families. I guess that was an effective means of the psychologist dealing with the truth [denial], but it really didn’t help the trauma I was suffering as a result of the torture I was subjected to. And they did make an effort to conceal it, and well, I guess one is going to slip through the net eventually. Luckily no one is prepared to stand up, police ensuring silence, so they’re back in business without interuption. Maybe if I wait 40 years and we can all look back and say, if only we had known, we would have said something?

    So was Fannon really treating victims of torture? In whose opinion?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/13/france-state-responsible-for-1957-death-of-dissident-maurice-audin-in-algeria-says-macron

    I guess they did admit it eventually.

    See for example the confession by General Aussaresses regarding the unintended negative outcomes that occurred during interrogations.

  • There are two inter related points I would like to make and then I will say no more.

    1. There has been marches in support of Mr Floyd and BLM here in my State. Many of those people have what is called a COVIDsafe app on their phones. They can and are being tracked with their consent. Could that information be used to charge them with offences under the Emergency Provisions currently in place?

    That would be a breach of the Privacy Act and agreement that was made when consent was given right? So you find yourself charged, what then? Get a lawyer? When they say your privacy is protected what they don’t tell you is that there has never been a sucessful conviction of ANYONE who breached your right to privacy. You only assume that because the protections are there that your protected, your not. The acquiescence in failing to bring action when a breach is known about and identified is used, and you only find out when it’s too late. Awww ya got me. And here was me thinking that my personal medical records couldn’t be distributed without my consent. Especially given that they were provided in such a way as to seriously mislead people into false beliefs about me. I call it fraud and slander, the Clinical Director in his authorisation of the documents to be sent to lawyers calls it “editing”. This despite legislation that lawyers are to be provided unredacted documents to protect the human rights of “patients”. Problem if they are given evidence/proof of torture and kidnappings by said mental health workers though right?

    2. There is an offence in our Criminal Code s.336 Procuring the Apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a Mental Illness, penalty three years prison. This crime was included in the code to stop mental health workers using police to do kidnappings and later claim they received a referral from police. So in my situtaion I can prove I did not have a mental illness, and was ‘procured’ by ‘spiking’ me and then planting items for police to create the appearance of lawfulness.

    Problem is that this section of the Criminal Code has NEVER been used. Why would that be? Because you have to ask the people who kidnapped you to enforce the law? Because the intention of passing the legislation was to deceive people into the false belief they were protected from rogue mental health professionals who may simply wish to snatch anyone from their home for no other reason that a doctor wants them delivered to a hospital for ‘treatment’? Which coincidentally can be done without their consent now they have been brought under the provisions of the Mental Health Act?

    The laws are fairly well constructed, it is providing the people who have a duty to ensure accountability with the means to be derelict in their duty that the problem lies. A Chief Psychiatrist who doesn’t know what a burden of proof is (suspect on reasonable grounds) can hardly provide “expert legal advice” to the Minister. Once you change suspect on reasonable grounds to suspect on grounds we believe to be reasonable then the mandatory reporting section of the watchdog legislation is useless, you simply never suspect and therefore never report suspected misconduct. If however the ‘criteria’ for reporting contained in the Act are met, then not reporting becomes misconduct and you go to prison. Once again though, it’s like reporting acts of torture by police to police, they simply drop you at an Emergency Dept for an unintended negative outcome (hotshot) round here.

    Sure, lets see that the ‘scapegoat’ officer is convicted and gets to share some time with people he was responsible for putting away (coz it’s all about breakin off sausage, don’t ya feel sorry for the poor little ……. See Cypress Hill, Pigs). But lets not forget that there are others further up the food chain enabling these abuses, and concealing their involvement in that vile conduct. I’ve personally witnessed them washing the ‘blood from their hands’.

    I can’t help but think about why the French revolution suceeded, open the cages and arm the inmates.

  • Oh there was a reason.

    1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term “torture” means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.

    The question is, did they have “lawful sanction” to do this, and if the answer is yes, then it does not constitute torture. Hence the reason to plant a knife on someone before you torture them as a police officer. Exploit the loophole, and tamper with the evidence. And of course in my country access to legal representation can be denied if the criminals are also public officers. The corruption watchdog is useful in this regard.

    As one would expect in a National Socialist totalitarian State there needs to be a mechanism to ensure that the interests of the State, and NOT the individual is served. We speak of valuing a rule of law, but need a method to subvert that rule of law. In some ways its the double think spoken of by Eric Blair. We watch as Mr Floyd is being choked, and yet would accept that his calls of “I can’t breathe” was as a result of COVID if the State wishes to impose that reality on us. Sure we might break a bit of crockery, but nothing is going to change. I say this from experience as someone who had fraudulent documents provided to my lawyers manufacturing a ‘preferred truth’, that everyone in my community has decided they will go along with. They look, realise the truth, and then wish they hadn’t looked. We are torturing citizens and unintentionally negatively outcoming them. Challenge the authorities? I think not.

    Deng once said “conceal your strengths, and bide your time”. This is what the authorities will do in this situation. Leaders will be identified and when the time is right……..they will be treated for their mental illness. The ‘strength’ being the ability to use the mechanism of the State to identify ‘dissenters’ and remove their human and civil rights, not necessarily beat them into submission and make martyrs of them. How many fingers do you see Winston?

  • What I can say is that the people who planned to obtain a police referral to mental health services in my instance (my ‘wife’ and a private clinic psychologist) discussed the possibility of police shooting me as a result of the need to plant a knife on me to make everything appear lawful. Due diligence I believe this is called. And of course as a result of the ‘prepared one earlier’ plan, police would have been within their rights given I was in posession of a knife. They weren’t aware it was a ‘plant’, or ‘throw down’. So maybe the deaths mentioned above have more to them than just police notching their guns? Were there ‘set ups’ among them too? Because I’ve been surprised by the number of people aware of the methods I speak of. Even websites dicussing how to ‘set up a loved one for mental health services’ appearing on the internet. And the $200 for the psychologists ‘councelling’ good value if your on the right side of the equation. Unfortunately that wasn’t me but ……. next time maybe.

    But could we blame the police if they had shot me? (and let me add, that this is possibly a preferred option when one considers the ‘career’ of mental patient) I mean these people plotting and scheming to obtain or procure their services when they didn’t actually have the right to (as a result of the ‘protections’ of the Mental Health Act, which are ignored for convenience by State authorities. Dereliction of duty by the Minister goes a long way to enabling these human rights abuses). Though i’m sure their intentions were good (much like the nite club rapist, in their mind it’s simply a matter of coercing until they realise how good it is for them. And well, with the ability to ‘spike’ yoir ‘clients’ then informed consent is neither here nor there). I did after all refuse to pay money to a psychologist I obviously didn’t need to speak to. The psychiatrist who interrogated me recognising that my decision to leave a situation where I was being repeatedly assaulted might not constitute a mental illness. See, told you I was right. Shame I, and my family, had to be fuking destroyed for it

    And what I did notice was the ‘just doing my job’ attitude of police. This was bread and butter for them. The Community Nurse needs someone bashed into talking, we can arrange that. Gives the young guys some practice at ‘take downs’ and obviously the person concerned is of little to no value, we know that because a doctor has taken the time to label them.

    And well, if I only had the time to explain how police reacted to me having the documented proof of the ‘set up’. I can only begin to imagine the problems faced by someone who has been wrongly convicted of aserious offence, when police actively engage with criminals to conceal evidence of those offences. Total disregard for the law, by refusing to take documented proof of serious offences, threats and intimidation of witnesses, and even a Member of Parliament putting his head in his hands and exclaiming “I have to work with police” (I assume even when he knows they are acting as criminals).

    When you hire thugs to do your dirty work, they usually figure out that the reason you hired them is because your afraid. They will of course then learn fairly quickly to exploit that fear, and increase their share of the ‘takings’. This is just human nature.

    I’ve also heard it said that the best predictor of future behvaious is the past (history). Theres a long list of black people who have been killed by police, and nothing has changed. And nothing is going to change this time either. Rinse, lather and then repeat. I say this as someone who has been tortured and kidnapped, and then had my community turn their backs on me even when I could prove that.

    Advocates? No, I think the term is Hypocrites.

    “Police in Minneapolis, Minnesota who knew they were being filmed tortured George Floyd, a Black man, to death for no reason while other officers stood around watching.”

  • This article shows a distinct lack of understanding of the way that these ‘welfare checks’ are used to enable human rights violations by mental health services.

    Neither police or mental health services are going to give ground with their loophole that enables the use of torture.

    I have explained what was done to me over a long period of time now. The documents I have show a use of euphemisms to conceal what is known to be methods of torture. Any competent mental health worker would recognise the ‘code’.

    “chemically restrain” = ‘spike’ with benzos”.

    Knife for self protection = plant items for police to lawfully detain. Any old knife will do.

    “welfare check by police” = induce “acute stress reaction” in target and obtain “lawful sanction” to conceal the use of known torture methods [see the two DO NOTS of acute stress reaction]. I assume the reason these methods can not be employed in Gunantanamo is precisely because it is known to constitute torture. The physical assault (‘spiking’) is what takes this method into the arena of ‘hard torture’. Though by concealing the evidence of this offence one can use any claim by the victim as evidence of their mental illness, claims that one has been ‘spked’ being the most common delusion treated by psychiatry. Clever when you think about it, drug someone for speaking the truth.

    Yes your correct about police aggriavating the situation, but thats the very reason a Community Nurse calls them to a scene, they are his personal thugs used to ‘rough up’ his potential meal ticket, I mean ‘client’. How else would a filthy ‘verballer’ get someone who would exercise their right to silence to speak? A few belts to the leg with a stick or pepper spray in the eyes from a few inches away, they usually talk.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOoRiI8HVU

    Ready to talk to Doctor now? “Do you like that?” Police filming on their own cameras the abuses, for what reason? Like the photos from Abu Ghraib?

    Conceal evidence of the ‘spiking’. ‘verbal’ anything the target says to create the ‘reasonable grounds’ for referral to a psychiatrist, and you can have them dribbling in a cell within the hour due to a need to ensure they don’t get angry and retaliate for being kidnapped. No National Standard as to what constitutes a “chemical restraint” so you can literally take them to within an inch of their life (or further if you have the stomach for it).

    And you want to take the money off these people who have found means to torture, maim and kill and with a little ‘trick cycling’ call it medicine?

    Good luck with that.

    Yes, police are liars, but they have nothing on the ‘verballing’ skills of most mental health workers. There are the Courts holding police lying in check. What stops a mental health worker from filling out fraudulent Forms? Certainly not our Chief Psychiatrist who writes that the Community Nurse has the ability to time travel to make “observations” and can read minds. This of course means he would never ‘suspect on reasonable grounds’ that a citizen was actually kidnapped rather than that eupemism he prefers of ‘referred’. Conspire to stupefy and commit an indictable offence namely kidnapping becomes referral and detention if you tamper with the documented proof you provide to the Mental Health Law Centre. And not a soul would dare stand up for the reasons given above, in a State where you can be snatched out of your bed by police and force drugged within the hour for complaining about their ‘service’,
    or speaking the truth.

  • “Does this suggest we should push people in front of cars as a form of “therapy?””

    Hey I just realised that there’s no need to waste the chemicals for the Euthanaisia of “patients”. More savings for the taxpayer. Imagine the insanity of making killing a form of treatment. Medicalise anything these days and you can avoid any problems with the law, and in fact can be provided with assitance in your criminality.

  • So how does one get around the problem of a citizen who does not have a mental illness being tortured and kidnapped by mental health services? Get police to assist in making it lawful by planting a knife on the target for police to find and they can then make referral to mental health services under the Police Powers section of the Mental Health Act.

    Of course a good police officer would recognise a conspiracy to torture and kidnap if they were watching. Unfortunately the police who snatched me from my bed and referred me for their “suspect on reasonable grounds that I required and assessment” for sleeping in my own bed? Not so clever, and possibly expecting a few favours from the Community Nurse who they assisted in a kidnapping and torture. Good to have friends in ‘the business’. Police free to torture and can then have him drop them at a hospital for further ‘treatments’ with a verballed Form 1.

    These people are criminals and my government doesn’t want them to be criminals, so they ignore the very laws they have enacted, and that they claim they have respect for when they really have no respect for the law at all. None. It’s merely an inconvienience to find methods of subverting. And fortunately the public are required to vote for these people and create the appearance that we want this crap.

    And by making a citizen into a “patient” any and all human rights agreements are thrown out the window. And by ensuring there is no accountability measures in place, they are free to use the medical system as their own personal problem solvig system.

    Ask our current Minister for Health who sees anyone who doesn’t agree with him as requiring mental health services. Something he learned at a very young age I am informed by a reliable source.

  • Once again Steve, i’m speaking about somewhere other than the US so…..

    The problem is not even with challenging the system. The system would actually work relatively well. It’s the corruption that is not being challenged. The ‘lawyers’ at the Law Centre KNEW what had been done, they were also fully aware that the documented proof of what I was saying existed. I even offered them copies which they declined, and I understand that given they were to be given access to unredacted copies to protect my human rights. But when they are made aware of the fact that I was tortured, and they know I haven’t been informed?? What should happen in that situation? Seriously, because that is exactly where I (and they) found myself.

    So what occurred? They didn’t inform me, accepted a set of fraudulent documents from the hospital (though they did complain about the “editing”), made a complaint to the authorities and then handed on a ‘response’ to that complaint that makes a farce of the process. They then claim they do not have time to read the response, and go find someone else to help you. And of course anyone else I approach now calls them and asks……. and is told, don’t touch it, they State is going to knock him.

    What I thought would occur would be that the lawyers would look, confirm the torture and kidnapping and report those matters to the appropriate authorities (Corruption and Crime Commisssion under s. 28 mandatory reporting of suspected [on reasonable grounds] serious criminal offences [2 or more years prison]). Though the way the Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the “suspect on reasonable grounds” protection of the Mental Health Act, it means all he needs to do is never suspect that an offence has occurred and he never has to report. Suspect on reasonable grounds becomes suspect on grounds he believes to be reasonable. And even with a pile of bodies down at the morgue his suspicion wasn’t piqued, ergo, no report. Big advantage on being able to remove legal protections without Parliamentary approval I think.

    That reporting definitely did not occur (see Parliamentary Hansards), and it is a serious act of Misconduct. Criminal in fact, to attempt to pervert the course of justice carries a Mandatory prison term. So the State does them all a favour by concealing their crimes (committed knowingly and with mens rea). And I, and my family, get to pay for their wrongdoing. Though I guess the $1.50 it costs to ‘hotshot’ me in the ED is much less of a cost than the money they would have to pay out if the torture was exposed in court. So they are saving taxpayers money with this psychiatric death squad. A matter of National Interest, and not in the Public Interest i’m told.

    Consider. I spent months writing to the Mental Health Law Centre pointing out that the letter of response from the Chief Psychiatrist did not recognise the legal protection of “suspect on reasonable grounds that the person should be an involuntary patient”. What are these reasonable grounds? They are set out in the criteria for involuntary patients in s. 26 of the Act “criteria for involuntary patients” .

    There are 4 criteria to be met in order to satisfy the “reasonable grounds”
    1. the person MUST have a mental ilness.
    2. the person must be a danger to self or other.
    3. the only way to get them the treatment they require is in a hospital setting
    4 the least coercive method to achieve that must be used.

    Fairly loiw bars but, problem being I did not have a mental l=illness by the very definition of the Act. So if the Chief Psychiatrist removes s. 26 of the Act, or the protections affforded the public by that Act, then no problems, Boans wasn’t tortured and kidnapped.

    You would think the Law Centre lawyers would have something to say about this right? Wrong, they were kore than happy to keep assaulting me psychologically and assisting in fuking destroying me. FACT.

    Can anyone other than me see a problem with the removal of these legal protections? Is it just me? Because I’ve letters from lawyers stating i’m wrong to assume that the protections have been removed. Suspect on reasonable grounds becomes suspect on grounds they believe to be reasonable is NOT a misrepresentation of the law, the MInister for Mental Health writes. Your a fuking idiot I write back. s. 26 criteria was put into the Act as a means to check if “reasonable grounds” was satisfied, and protect the public from arbitrary detentions.

    I then inform the Minister of what happened when they tried to ‘unintentionally negatively outcome’ me and she suggests I get a lawyer to defend myself. I point out I had a lawyer but they had fraudulent documents sent to them, and they could no longer assist me as a result. How can I be defended by lawyers who are provided with fraudulent and slanderous documents that has a false legal narrative? Citizen tortured and kidnapped become mental patient of hospital for more than 10 years. Seems a little unfair to me. Of course ow that police have threatened all the witnesses …. well, no point saying anymore. You either (a) don’t believe me 0r (b) don’t give a damn.

  • Only Tour I wish to go on oldhead is the PGA tour lol.

    My belief that I lived with for nearly 50 years that people are esentially good has been delliberately ‘fuking destroyed’ by mental health services. And my community stands aside while they ‘fuking destroy’ anyone they select via their negligence, fraud and slander.

    These people make a rod for their own backs by having one predetermined outcome that can only be achieved with that negligence, fraud and slander. They are right, and you are wrong. And if they need to torture or maim you, threaten your family and friends to achieve that outcome then thats why God gave police guns.

    I guess in some ways my truth needs to be denied for the sake of a larger movement. Associating with victims of crimes when what your trying to achive is reform in mental health services is counter productive. That would be an admission that not only does there need to be reform, but actual accountablility, and there is no way any of the people I have had dealngs with would even consider that. Not when you do whatever you want, and then conceal your wrongdoing with fraud and slander, and claim the persons response to your vicious assults has something wrong with them. They do once they’re finished with them. ‘We’ (reformists) only want to step in once they have fuking destroyed you and help. Me, I want to stop the damage before it occurs. Thus the paths diverge.

    I think there’s probably more to be had from discussing how to reform the National Socialist movement. Maybe we could introduce them to Kosher foods as a way of opening up cultural exchange? People do like food. Lets have a sausage sizzle with the ‘consumers’ (hope you remember the article lol).

    I know that as far as ‘advocates’ go, there is a need for it to be more than just making the claim that your an advocate. Turning your back when the going gets tough makes you a hypocrite, coward and a sychophant, not an advocate. And I know how hard it can be to stand up, in fact, i’m ready for a sit down after ten years of trying to have my human rights observed by sychophants and cowards.

    Show me the scars (and I know there are some here who have those scars). Dr Headbanger PhD M.A. BBC ABC and CNN isn’t a list of scars, but a line of privileges paid for not earned.

    And yeah, i’ve just about had enough of it all tbh. Talk talk talk while the smoke from the ovens billows. And the SS sits discussing the new art work in the lunch room.

  • “A serious project for the anti-psych movement and its allies to work on would be a psychiatric inmates’ defense project to raise $ for legal defense while at the same time exposing the inherent fraudulence and oppressiveness of psychiatry. Cases would be defended not to “get the best deal” but to demonstrate the underlying injustice of the whole setup.”

    The problem though, as I believe I have demonstrated, is that the legal protections afforded citizens in the law are not recognised by either those charged with the duty to enforce them, or the legal fraternity themselves.

    I have written proof of (a) the Chief Psychiatrist removing the protection of “suspect on reasonable grounds” from the referral process (and thus making lawful arbitrary detentions) and (b) letters from people claiming to be lawyers who also deny the existence of these legal protections. I would have thought a competent lawyer would know HOW a burden of proof operates in law, though I have proof that even the Priniciple of the Law Centre doesn’t even know that. Maybe they were just actively engaging in the gaslighting I was subjected to, to conceal the torture and kidnapping? That’s what it looks like, but with police providing cover for them, we would never know right? Get citizens to commit the offences and then fail to perform your duty is how it works around here. And with a toothless watchdog its carte blanche.

    A similar analogy would be that police don’t recognise your right to live, and will stand by while criminals stop your hearth with drugs and call it an “unintended negative outcome”. Nay, in fact will actively retrieve documented proof of the crimes committed by these people and then acting out the theatre of gaslighting the victims to death by suicide. Maintain the fraud of the status change from citizen to “patient” and its amazing what one can do to anyone in the community and call it medicine.

    I’m not sure the same system is in place in the US, in fact I struggle to believe it would be possible. But here in Australia they openly admit that the State can deny anyone access to legal represnetation under certain circumstances. And of course as I can show, achieving those circumstances can simply be a matter of drugging someone without their knowledge, planting items on them for police to find, and arranging to have them ‘treated’ aginst their will.

    No protections, no problems.

    The legal fraternity is obviously aware of the situation, and for whatever reason refuses to speak about it. And I know that if they have watched the ‘authorities’ do some of the ‘fuking destroying’ that they have subjected me to, they had better continue with their complicit silence. Or active participation which will no doubt provide benefits.

    As I have stated here and elsewhere the Mental Health Law Centre which claims to be an advocacy service, is nothing of the sort. They gather information regarding their ‘clients’, and then work with authorities behind their backs to conceal human rights abuses. All under the guise of “there might be things I can’t tell you”., .like were going to attempt to pervert the course of justice here by not reporting the torture to the appropriate authorities, accepting fraudulent documents and then providing you with a poison pen letter that we claim we don’t have time to read. Best we don’t look now we know the State is committing crimes against you to resolve their little problem of torture and kidnapping you. Dead Man Walking.

    Thus it would be a waste of money to try and fund such a defence, as I found out when I was charged $3500 to be told how expensive a lawyers time was. Obvioulsly quite happy to take my money knowing that after speaking to the Mental Health Law Centre lawyers that it was a case of empty his pockets before throwing him under the bus of State sanctioned corruption. Interesting the second lawyers comments when I still had the documented proof of the ‘spiking’, “I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof”. Phone call to the Law Centre and the word travels back throught he chain of command. But we already sent out the fraudulent set, and he has copies of the REAL set waaaaaaaa. Quick, treat him for that illness, have police make a referral so we can do one of theiose negative outcomes in the ED. So glad you guys don’t believe me, because people can be really ugly when you get to see whats in their hearts, rather than the smooth talk from their mouths.

    But at least I tried. And i’m sure the comment by one senior legal represenatative that he had ‘insurance’ was a key comment as to how they need to keep their own butts covered where the State is torturing citizens. Make sure it looks like you have done your duty, while ensuring you don’t.

    You provide a builder with a set of architectural plans, approved by the State and then he builds whatever he is told to by the authorities. That’s how the legal fraternity works around here, they take your money for doing the bidding of the authorites, and I can only assume its lawful when police can’t find their copy of the criminal code and therefore its legal to spike people and have then snatched from their bed by police for delivery to a locked ward because someone wants it done.

    Of course not a soul prepared to look now that witnesses have been threatend by police, and documents retrieved (well, sort of, had a bit of tidying up to do there but …… in a Police State no problems, kill anyone who complains). I mean where are they going to get a lawyer, when there is no law? lol

  • “Presently, ECT is promoted for treating depression when psychiatric drugs have previously been ineffective.”

    Thats the “stated aim”.

    https://health.thewest.com.au/news/1212/shock-tactics-why-is-ect-feared

    And with ‘advertising’ like this is it any wonder people are accepting their children being exposed to this “safe and effective treatment”. I think we will begin to see a reduction in the mean age of the recipients of this treatment. Many I would suggest will still be female, though they will be young teenage girls whose parents have concerns about their eating behaviours.

    “Eat your greens Mary or we will have to plug you into the wall socket again”

  • One of the short surahs in Qur’an about those who reject faith (al Kafirun) says “to you be your Way, and to me be mine”.

    It says a lot without saying a lot lol. I’m not put here to shove anything down anyones throat and force them to think like me. And in return I expect the same.

    This raises the question of what it actually is that psychiatrists ‘treat’. The behaviours? Well, then consider I was referred by police for a mental health assessment because I was asleep, and was in possesion of a knife (lets assume they didn’t know it was a plant). So it can’t be the thoughts, unless they could see my dreams. And it can’t have been the behaviour because I complied with their requests to get up against the wall and spread em. So what was I actually referred to mental health services for and had my life destroyed because of????

    Hearsay. Rumours. Slander. Gossip. Backstabbing.

    These are signs of people who need to be treated according to my Book. And not harshly with beatings and beheadings, but with understanding. They need to be raised up to become good people. They really lack insight into their conduct, and the consequences of it. And should they fail, then they may require some coercion. But drugging them to damage their brains? It might work. So might a public flogging. But what is it that makes them act in this manner? To think that behaving like night club rapists could be disguised as ‘medicine’? Well, to be honest, the rest of my community seems prepared to do just that, accept it as ‘medicine’, because these vile people seem to have deceived the community, in one way or another. Is it the fear of having them snatch you out of your bed next for complaining? Or is it that you truly believe what they are doing works (despite ample evidence to the contrary)?

    I’m standing by the above though, no Scientologist ever called me “schizo”, and in fact they were one of the few who bothered to listen to and hear what I was saying. This of course before police realised I still had the documents. I can’t imagine that the truth went iunnoticed by people with a thorough understanding of the law. But, maybe they’re as ignorant as our Cheif Psychiatrist and don’t even know what a burden of proof is?

    Ever lifted a piece of tin in a shed and watched as the mice ran in all directions because they felt they had been exposed? The cat got his lunch that day.

  • “I think so many people who have been hurt, to expect them to go to the same system, even if “reformed” is nothing more than a continuation in new clothes.”

    I think looking at the current situation in the US, and looking back at Spike Lee’s classis movie Do The Right Thing I consider reform nothing more than a change in the choke holds we find ourselves being subjected to. That’s all ‘reform’ can offer.

    And I get what your saying Sam, none of us want to rock the boat. It’s just easier to be a passive witness and live in hope that the oppressor will take his foot (or knee) off the other guys neck. And those who stage manage these situations (and they are stage managed) know the pressure to go for the ‘reform’ option. In some ways its all they leave us with. The streets will be swept, the windows repaired, the stores stock refilled….. and we will be outraged next time, and the next, and the next …..Take a look at Lee’s film. If nothing changes, nothing changes.

    As far as posychiatry goes I am living proof that it isn’t needed to silence people who have been subjected to vile abuse. My State authorities have other means available, they simply ignore the laws, and do whatever they want. The need to kill me in the Emergency Dept was so unnecessary in a State where laws matter for nothing. Simply refuse to accept any documented proof of the crimes and gaslight the victim to suicide, simple. This should spell the absolute end of psychiatry, after all it is only a method of silencing victims of abuse, and those triuth speakers who our elite want silenced.

    Consider the Royal Commission into Child Sexual Abuse. 40 yeasr of children being abused and not one person bothered to report that abuse to police. Not one. Or is there more to it than that? Were they actually taking the reports? What actions were they taking when a credible person went into a police station and complained?

    I think one of the most powerful comments I have seen here at MiA was about “rights without remedies”. This is the ‘old lie’. The law is a beautiful thing, though when it is being administered by people who abuse their positions of trust it can be the most vile thing too. Look at how the National Socialists used it to enable the murder of a lot of people. It was actually fairly simple changes to the law. Good news about that is that it shouldn’t be too difficult to make changes the other way?

    I find myself pondering how we would put integrity into our system, and it is with tests. Failure of those tests seems to be reason to promote and encourage people these days. Get them into positions where they can be exploited. And corruption reigns supreme, for a while at least.

    I get the feeling you are sick of the reform agenda. If so, there is an alternative available that is not promoting the use of violence as a means to achieve ends. Though I think sometimes it is necessary to be confrontational to ensure voices are heard. I don’t wish to stand alongside someone who wishes to include me in anything that they feel they need to because it validates to them they are ‘good people’. Good people don’t turn their backs on people who are being deliberately harmed because ‘medicine’.

  • “The chief said police received three 911 calls for an assault, with at least two of the calls saying a knife was involved.

    Weapons-related calls take the highest priority, Saunders said, adding front-line officers respond to them first.

    “There’s no way I would put a nurse in the middle of a knife fight,” Saunders said.”

    Like a checklist really. If you want to jump the line, plant a knife on your loved one. Any problems and someone gets shot, it’s okay the investigation is at ‘arms length’. My wife paid $200 for that information, you can get it for free.

    Problem, how do we plant the knife on someone when they’re awake? Make them asleep with benzos in their drink you prepare for them.

    Seriously makes me sick reading that article knowing what is being done to conceal the truth in these situations. Criminal conspiracies and cover ups, with no effective investigation other than a watchdog that ensures the evidence has been appropriately tampered with by police. You should see the action when that cover up is exposed though, the amount of people who need to be silenced and threatened to continue with the cover up.

    Credit where credit is due, despite the truth being exposed, the police in my instance have managed to continue concealing their use of torture, and assistance in my kidnapping. Thats some power to be able to shut down that many people, though with the ability to distribute fraudulent documents where ‘assisted dying’ is involved, the community has every right to be concerned.

    Trust them? Might be best you don’t look at the proof I have, because the last thing anyone would do is trust frauds and slanderers. I mean I get it, police torturing people and then dropping them off to be delierately harmed at a hospital to be able to call the cover up medicine is pretty disgusting. But it’s a tough job, and I don’t see those pinko namby pambies at the UN out dealing with these nut jobs on a daily basis. Not like theres a lot of people being harmed by it? We have the data to prove it, and if we don’t give us a week to make some up.

    I’d love a look at the ‘inside’ of how police are running these cover ups for the State. There are some things that are patently obvious to me now about their ‘flagging’ system. Useful information, and like all corrupt conduct will no doubt turn full circle. Imagine the uses you could put these new mental health professionals who have been placed in every station for? The Station politics just got a whole lot more interesting.