Tuesday, November 29, 2022

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  • “Doesn’t NOT telling the patient of the risks of suicidal behavior from antidepressants put them at risk of death?”

    Not like they’re going to make a complaint if it does happen right? Anybody who wants to make a complaint, hands in the air………. Nope, no-one.

    And it’s simply a matter of “editing” the documents before any legal representative gets to take a look and ‘nothing to see here’ is always the case…..

    Fraud, and the ability to slander anyone attempting to make a complaint by unlawfully releasing their medical records.

    All those juicy personal details they have been hiding and only told to the ‘therapist’ in good faith now being gossiped about by staff and everyone else? And don’t for a minute think i’m kidding about this….. I’ve got the proof. And it isn’t their fault if the documents they “edit” are misinterpreted in the way they would be expected to? removing significant facts and inserting others to make it look bad for the target of the slander is just standard operating proceedure.

    Let me count the deaths which have resulted from that sort of conduct, and the ‘families’ who think it was the ‘illness’ that put the rope around their necks, or that made them walk in front of a car, or……….

    Positively vicious, and to then hear the families calling for earlier interventions by these gaslighting violent thugs who have contributed significantly to their family members death? Makes me sick to even think about it, and the support they receive from Police to ensure their ‘work’ is not examined. “you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”….. and if they aren’t mental patients, give us a minute to “edit” the legal narrative…. and they are now.

    Sign here and we will have your property delivered to a Funeral Director of your choosing….. can I recommend a friend of mine? I get a ‘spotters fee’ if you use him, so mention my name would you?

  • You’ve got to admit it’s quite an impressive list of offences for Police to be providing assistance to ensure that they DIDN’T have to do anything about?

    I mean we all make mistakes and when we do, it’s just natural we want to ensure that our mistakes are not to be held against us, so making the further mistake of trying to kill someone to conceal it should result in assistance from Police?

    My wife particularly helpful in that regard,

    And you can imagine the panic when it became clear I still had the documents proving what I had been saying?

    Me blabbing away not only here, but actually sitting for an hour and a half showing a Member of Parliament how the fraudulent set of documents worked (Do you really call this “editing”?) Police then in need of information about “Who else has the documents?” and thus is possibly aware of the ‘assistance’ to these criminals, by other criminals?

    All kind of blew up in their faces, as these things tend to do……. though they have managed to scrape through and deny reality for more than ten years now, and well, not a lot of people prepared to step up and provide any ‘assistance’ to the victim (s) [and there are more than just me]

    I suppose the Police were a bit pissed about the Private Clinic psychologist and her Shock Doc husband having to flee the State…. given the ‘relationship’ which had been formed between them as a result of their mutual interest in seeing me dead, and the “edited” reality being the accepted one.

    The good news is they managed to ensure that virtually no one was held to account, and mental health services can go on providing arbitrary detention and torture services for the State ….. and the little problem of ‘joint enterprise’ has now been resolved by passing Euthanasia Laws to ensure that doctor can provide material assistance with cover ups, and the “editing” of paperwork post hoc will ensure that the buck stops wayyyyy before the Minister. Wouldn’t want conspiracies to conceal these sorts of matters ending up on his/her desk requiring action.

    Minister telling me “you better get yourself a lawyer” after I explained the conduct of the Head of the E.D.to her in writing. I the explained I actually had a lawyer, but that they had been provided with a fraudulent set of documents, and were thus unable to help me with any legal matters…. and that the Chief Psychiatrist had misrepresented the legal protections afforded the community in his letter of response which my lawyers didn’t have time to read…. which was really lucky for the criminals because a lawyer would know what a burden of proof was etc…….

    Oh wait, I get it. The Chief Psychiatrist didn’t actually write that letter…… he isn’t that much of an incompetent to fail to recognise the protection afforded the community by the law, especially given his the person responsible? Or is he really prepared to utter with a known forged document, in writing for all to see? because whilst it wouldn’t be obvious to anyone who hadn’t seen the Triage documents unredacted, it is patently obvious if you do.

    Hence the panic when they realised I still had the documents…….. and Police were havig great difficulty refusing to take the proof that I was subjected to a long list of crimes, and human rights abuses (ie tortured by them after the Community Nurse had finished torturing me to bring me under the powers of the Mental Health Act and make what was torture look like ‘medicine’ [“inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” Article 1 of the Convention against the use of Torture)

    All pretty messy when you think about it, especially for the police who were working hard to ensure their fingerprints weren’t on any of this ‘filth’ that was coming out of the hospital, and people trying to conceal their offending as being lawful because a doctors name is in there somewhere.

  • “if you say something and it isn’t true, that’s a mistake. If you say something and you KNOW it isn’t true, that’s a lie” Charlton Heston to Bill Clinton.

    So lies? Well, the legal protection for people who are considered “patients” (that is as defined in s. 3 of the Mental Health Act, someone with a treating psychiatrist) is the Form 1 statutory declaration, which is the equivalent of sworn court testimony.

    There are 9 items listed on my Form 1 which was completed after I had been jumped in my bed by police and forced into an interrogation with a Community Nurse claiming me as his “Outpatient” (this being an offence under our Criminal Code of procuring a person not suffering from a mental illness; penalty 3 years prison).

    This Form 1 statutory declaration MIUST meet the standards set out in s 16 (1) of the Oaths, Affidavits, and Statutory Decalarations Act;

    “The validity of an oath, affirmation or statutory declaration is not affected by the fact that the person taking or making it does not use the exact words required as long as the words actually used do not materially affect the substance of the exact words and are not likely to mislead.”

    This legal protection for the community against the corrupt practice of ‘verballing’ is important. No telling lies in this instance as it’s a criminal offence to do so?

    Well, not only was the Form 1 completed by the Community Nurse likely to mislead, I have written confirmation from the Chief Psychiatrist that it ACTUALLY misled him into a false inference….. one which resulted in his failure to report suspected misconduct to the Corruption watchdog. This being an offence under the Corruption watchdog Act which requires the IMMEDIATE reporting of suspected misconduct.

    Lies? On the statutory declaration? I have offered to allow the best defense attorney to defend this document in court as I know it does not stand the test of the Oaths Affidavits and Statutory Declarations Act….. and significantly SO DOES THE STATE.

    So they exercise their right to obstruct and pervert the course of justice. Denial of the right to legal representation not really much of a human rights abuse on top of the killing of complainants….. a bit like charging a murderer with failing to render assistance once they had stabbed their victim 17 times lol.

    Significantly, the United Nations made a decision regarding the police beating of a young woman named Corrina Horvath. The State claimed that they were not responsible for offending by public officers. The U.N. disagreed and found that the State IS responsible for the criminal conduct of their officers….. and thus the negligence to enable the use of this criminal conduct by public officers means that, if it can be demonstrated that they were aware of the offending, they are engaged in a conspiracy should they fail to act.

    So were they aware that there were plans afoot to have me ‘unintentionally negatively outcomed’? Because they were most certainly aware of the offences which had occurred to have me ‘assessed’ by a psychiatrist….. that is conspire to stupefy and commit an indictable offence (20 years) namely kidnapping (20 years). Forge and utter with false statutory declarations. Procure the apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a mental illness as defined in the Mental Health Act (ie I was NOT an “outpatient” of the hospital as claimed by the Community Nurse to Police. The false prescription concealing the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs (made my “Regular Medications” by the Senior Medical Officer) to conceal other offences…. Compound or conceal evidence of a criminal offence. Conspire to pervert the course of justice…….

    Lots of lies in among this of course, but the offences have been thoroughly documented, and then “edited” once it was realised that if my ‘legal representatives’ actually examined what they had a right to (legal protections of ‘mental patients’ under the Convention against the use of Torture) AND did their duty rather than conspire and forge and utter with a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist I might actually have had a complaint dealt with fairly, rather than having the State try to snuff me with my wifes assistance, and end up loosing everything I ever worked for including my family. Not that ‘they’ care when they place such little value on human life.

    Quite clever of the Mental Health Law Centre to draft a complaint to the Chief Psychiatrist as a means of identifying what evidence/proof I had, and once they had informed the State that I no longer had the proof, they could then forge the response from the Chief Psychiatrist based on the “edited” version of reality provided from the hospital FOI Officer instead of allowing them to examine the documents they requested……that is, the ones showing I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and tortured… them being ‘human rights defenders’ would be aware of how that works. And they are n ot up for providing assistance to anyone tortured by the State, that’s where their funding comes from right?

    Oh wait, no they aren’t as I wrote to them and explained…… the ARE the reason the State is being allowed to subject citizens to acts of torture…. and go ahead and fuking sue me you filthy dogs……because the truth is a defense ….. and never mind that I would be provided with an opportunity to present my case to the Court….. They most certainly wouldn’t want their ‘work’ in that matter being examined by a competent legal authority.

    Yep, lots of lies….. when the fog of war descends, things tend to get strange. Having mental health services smash my head in for the original lies was the best move they could have made. In fact, I have suggested a ‘first strike’ policy as being the best in these sorts of matters…. because once these dogs start savaging someone, they simply know it’s best to not stop until the victim is dead. Ask the Operations Manager who has no doubt been involved in a number of deaths which have occurred at that same facility. My wife will explain her modus operandii….. the release of personal medical records being one of her weapons And quite open about her right to ‘fuking destroy’ people and their families with powers provided by the State, and the corrupt police they are working with to conceal their acts of torture..

  • “Boans how are you doing?”

    Not so good to be honest Nijinsky.

    I appreciate what you write, and sure I understand that me complaining about public officers conspiring to arbitrarily detain and torture needs to be covered up. I just had no idea they were allowing people to be killed to meet that desired end……. and of course what a problem when I was still alive and could actually prove it……. blabbing away here at MiA where surely someone had the intelligence to notice that what I was saying might….. just might be true?

    “I haven’t experienced anyone being committed without there being a plethora of lies”

    Lies aren’t against the law…. well, there is of course the situation where you knowingly lie to police for example, “Create a False Belief”. And well, it’s also a problem when you commit offences to make what would be unlawful, appear to be lawful. Compounding offences…. so you ‘spike’ someone with date rape drugs and then conspire to conceal that offence with fraudulent documents…..

    Personally I don’t care if they want to abuse human rights and then kill anyone who complains…. their knee jerk reaction to me having the proof of their arbitrary detentions and acts of torture showing how little they can be trusted….because the attitude is that the State is authorising ANYTHING they need to do in order to keep the facility functioning. If that means conspiring to pervert the course of justice, acts of fraud, killings…… anything goes.

    They aren’t the first, and won’t be the last.

    Happy to sit down with anyone with a little legal knowledge and discuss the matters openly and honestly in the interest of seeing how they can do this better. That is, in my instance it would have been better to allow the people who attempted to kill me, to actually do the deed before interrupting them (though would that make the Prof who so rudely interrupted complicit?). And make sure you retrieve the documents showing the crime before allowing my lawyers to forge and utter with a letter of response from the Chief Psychiatrist. See, I though that you could trust the people at the hospital FOI Office (despite them threatening my wife, and having her issue threats to my daughter)…. and so when the Law Centre tried to find out if I still had the documents, I ASSUMED they had been provided with what they had a right to examine….. not a fraudulent set of documents used to unlawfully release my confidential medical information in a slanderous manner.

    These are not just lies, they are crimes against the community (not just me), and some of them carry very hefty penalties (mandatory prison terms should police ever decide to accept the proof of the offending rather than unlawfully refer me for ‘treatment’ to enable them to pervert the course of justice, despite the false claim that they are unaccountable…….. not the case for some of these police I have dealt with. Though I really don’t understand what actually happens when an officer is ‘restructured’. is that anything like being ‘unintentionally negatively outcomed’?)

    I think your point about ‘help’ being available is a valid one, and in fact the reason I got in deeper was as a result of me seeking out such ‘help’. I spoke to a psychiatrist/psychologist pair about the documents which I had managed to hold on to (despite the attempts by police and hospital to retrieve them before sending out the fraudulent set). They actually helped, and I’ve no doubt that I was in a very bad way when I first spoke to them. But of course once the State realised that I still had the documents, had been discussing their contents with people who had a knowledge of the system, and that the Law Centre had forged and uttered with the letter from the Chief Psychiatrist…… and that I was wandering around showing the proof of these criminals to people with a duty to act, (but who also have families that can be ‘fuking destroyed’ by the State), then the pair of them (psychiatrist/ psychologist AND the social worker who witnessed police trying to ‘refer’ me for speaking the truth and having the proof of the crimes all became afraid …. and rightly so when the State is allowing convenience killings to be done to cover up their misconduct right?).

    Not that they all agree with such conduct, the person who interrupted me being snuffed said he didn’t have the stomach for it….. and he sticks his hands into peoples open chests and does stuff to their beating hearts (that takes stomach from my perspective, so it must have been pretty horrible what they had planned for me)

    And that little exercise happened before ‘they’ thought ‘they’ had retrieved the documents and covered up the offending. I put ‘they’ in quote marks because it was actually two groups of people both operating within the cloak of State sanctioned abuses. Both committing offences, but one group entrapping another and then covering up their abuses for them to keep them in place to commit further offences….. eg unlawful release of medical records from a Private Clinic (or the University Counselling Service) for the benefit of certain individuals within the State mechanism. See for example the use of Defense Lawyers as ‘confidential informants’ by Victoria Police …… Imagine having a Clinic Psychologist accessing the reports for Defense Attorneys from a Private Clinic? Might explain the overturning of the conviction of a Member of Parliament I sat next to in the ‘waiting room’? Bit rough when the State has that sort of advantage in the Court process, that is having access to confidential reports?

    Lies? Someone could check…. oh wait, they already did and found…….. they had to steal my laptop to find out who else knew what they had been up to, and pretend they knew nothing about what had been going on (which is very ‘gaslighting’ when cops are getting fidgety when you tell them how someone attempted to murder you, and they can see the motive for the killing right in front of their own eyes)…. and ensure that I was not allowed access to a lawyer to get divorced and leave this filthy shit hole that is torturing and killing people for nothing more that trying to access the protection of the law….. and not just avoid the consequences of a few lies.

    The hypocrites of course, look, and then run away. I should have expected as much, it even says that they will do this in the Quran….. these Muslims who “hold together by the rope of Allah, and become not divided” …..Well, I suppose if the State wants to call torture ‘medicine’ and allow doctors to use police as their own personal thugs……. who are we to complain?

  • “yet are totally unaware of the trashing of our mental environment from psychiatry’s stigmatizing “diagnoses” and its physically and psychologically polluting “drugs””

    I’m still struggling to comprehend the significance of the release of the ‘hacked’ confidential medical records from Medibank. It certainly seems that many are becoming aware of the ‘trashing’ that has been done by mental health services…….. and if not, they’re certainly about to. Opportunities galore for those with the stomach for it.

    I know that journalists have been accessing the ‘dark web’ to view the records that are being drip fed (so it can’t be illegal to have them?) ……though the media has gone silent on what is occurring for some reason. Maybe like Margaret Thatcher doing a ‘deal’ with the IRA without the public being aware? Has the Insurance company paid the ransom and not told us?

    I’m sure there are many ‘professionals’ who would prefer their ‘patients’ are not aware of the ‘billing codes’ used to obtain payment from their insurance. Didn’t even know I had that ‘illness’? A bit like my medical records being released from the Private Clinic without me providing my consent (how could I, I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and arbitrarily detained and tortured to remove my right to liberty and consent? And the documents ‘backdated’ to make me an “outpatient” and the drugs my “Regular Medications”. Anything is possible when frauds are enabled by the State)……. and this being the motive for attempting to have me ‘unintentionally negatively outcomed’?

    No need for ‘that’ (someone doesn’t have the stomach for it) if we all get together and conspire to pervert the course of justice, but nice try. Police have ensured they will refuse to take the proof, and will make a ‘referral’ should the victim even try to access the protection of the law. (never mind the Convention against the use of Torture which we only signed to create the appearance that we don’t torture. Turkey returns citizen knowing Australia is engaging in acts of torture? Breach of the Convention Article 3? “the existence in the State concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights”. Just don’t ask the Aboriginal population, while the Socceroos complain about Qatar.)

  • As with most situations there is always the other side of the coin.

    I sat with a man who had been quite the domestic abuser, who was only capable of staring at the sky wondering what his name was, and remembering that he could remember before the ‘treatment’.

    Though without any real checks and balances to ensure that the allegations made about him were factual (as opposed to the method used by public officers of ‘verballing’ the facts, and then others uttering with known fraudulent documents) i’d be most concerned about the abuses possible. Eg drugging citizens without their knowledge with date rape drugs and then setting police thugs on them after calling them an “outpatient” and planting a weapon on them for police to justify their brutality? ‘Spiked’ with date rape drugs, and then cause an “acute stress reaction” by putting a gun to their head after jumping them in bed to force them into an interrogation? It’s called torture not ‘healthcare’, well, unless you have the ability to change the meaning of words……..

    I guess after speaking to the man I mention above whose name I at least remember, I think people being forced into ‘treatment’ should at least be allowed some form of legal defense before their brain is made mush by someone with an interest in their healthcare outcomes. Not these Law Centre lawyers who are acting as informants for the State, and who then throw ‘clients’ under a bus once the documented proof has been retrieved, and their conspiring to conceal human rights abuses can be seen as providing ‘access to the law’ (they will take their oaths as a cover, and the suckers just keep walking into their offices)

    Though I also recognise the cost savings that can be made by having victims of Institutional sexual and physical abuses ‘treated’ for their memories of being abused. Hence the reason the Senior Medical Officer doing the forging of documents was also a Catholic Priest? (‘head em off at the pass’ always worked in the cowboy movies). Once being treated the complaining becomes a symptom, and “you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” to quote the Minister for Mental Health.

    Yeah, yeah, I know, they wouldn’t do that….. and even if you have the proof the authorities would sit on their hands for the next 40 years anyway because of the ‘joint enterprise’ nature of the offending. Police refuse to take the documented proof and claim “insufficient evidence” …… and subverting the Rule of Law in the process.

    Got to love their bare faced lies to the public who think they elected them.

  • Hi Kathleen,

    thanks for your article. You write;

    “At the age of 31, I was consistently one of the youngest patients there. Most were older folks, 50s and 60s probably.”

    My State opened up the possibility of providing this’ treatment’ to teenagers’ without the need for parental consent (14). I heard it reported that this resulted in an increase of 195% in the administration of the ‘treatments’ over a period…….. these were called the “added protections” of our new Mental Health Act by politicians…..that is, the Shock Docs were no longer afraid of being held accountable for the damage they may do to these kids (not that it was likely anyway given the carte blanche model and “editing” of legal narratives/denial of access to legal representation for anyone harmed, afforded by the State to ‘doctors’/ mental health professionals)

    Given this ‘enabling’ act by our government (and exposing the community to potential harms and claiming that they were receiving “added protections”) one would expect a ‘targeting’ of ‘potential clients’ (do they have the money? And if so, how can the Mental Health Act provisions be used to gain control over their ‘healthcare’? Easily, in fact VERY easily when you simply call police and have them deliver (arbitrarily detain) your “outpatient” (documents forged and uttered with post ‘treatment’) to a ‘facility of your choosing despite the legal protections afforded the community).

    So positioning ‘spotters’ (eg a psychology student with a Masters Degree) in places such as Private Clinics or University ‘Counselling Services’ would be a good way of Shang Hai-ing anyone who met the criteria above (full wallet/good insurance and a slanderous label [unlawfully obtained breaching the Privacy Act] that would mean the community would turn a blind eye while the damage to their brain was done without their consent).

    The psychologist earning about $200 per session for the Private Clinic obtains a ‘referral’ and the ‘doctor’ then makes approximately $56,000 for the ‘sessions’ (6) you speak of? Well worth the effort of ‘directing’ someone into the hands of the ‘treatment provider’? And imagine when a husband and wife ‘team’ can effect such entrapments with a little bit of ‘grooming’? (do the math but it’s about 7 weeks pay for 6 hours work…… yet I note you claim the ‘treatment’ was administered in 10 minutes?)

    My refusal to pay for the ‘treatment’ because as I explained to the psychologist (with a Masters degree) I could do the same damage with a ball peen hammer resulted in some ‘alternative arrangements’ (unlawful) needing to be made. Arbitrary detention and torture using the services of the State who then have a need to conceal their involvement in human rights abuses and have the perfect ‘weapon’ available, if they just look the other way while it occurs….. Police happy to retrieve the documented proof of the crimes, while the hospital and the Law Centre does a cover up by forging and uttering with a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist…… a response to the complaint they lodged on behalf of their ‘client’…… I know, “they wouldn’t do that” ….. and I guess they didn’t if the victim no longer had a heart beat to complain?)

    Your assumption that this is primarily about ‘care’ of the ‘patients’ is far from the facts where I live…… the economic benefit, and ability to weaponise the ‘treatment’ for various purposes, a benefit to numerous ‘parties’ (politicians, doctors, insurance providers[interesting that mental health records are being released as a result of a ‘hack’], organised criminals……..) and cause a detriment to people who may approach police with documented proof of the misconduct of their colleagues, and before anyone notices that they have failed to report under mandatory reporting laws to the relevant authorities. Mental health services more than willing to accept ‘referrals’ from police and with post hoc due process, the victims can be dribbling in a cell within the hour (try blowing your whistle now).

    You write;

    “And if the provider has no awareness or no openness about the ways in which they can do harm, the destruction can be massive and unending”

    I understand the need to take this approach, and assume ‘good faith’, but it is fairly common knowledge of the damage that is being done…… it hardly takes an ‘expert’ to put the two and two together and realise ‘how it works’. Why wait until the victims of abuse have the chance to possibly complain when you can ‘wipe’ their memory early (14) and call their complaining a ‘symptom’ of an imaginary illness? For a fee of course……..

    The trauma of being subjected to arbitrary detention and torture, justification for ‘treatments’ that they know works? And with a little bit of ‘verballing’ and the removal of the documents showing their human rights abuses and criminal conduct, and replacing them with others showing the ‘illness’ of the ‘Outpatient” before uttering with them to ‘human rights lawyers’ whose gross criminal negligence (conspiring to pervert the course of justice) would hardly be expected? Unless of course you still have the documents they thought police had retrieved before their ‘little bit of mischief’……

    James Hall comments about ECT in another article here at MiA;

    “You have concluded correctly about electroshock treatments, the treatment cognitively impairs the patient so they can no longer ruminate, which eliminates most forms of both anxiety and depression. This is why they produce efficacy, along with endocrine responses that may make you feel euphoric. But as we all know the cost is horrible, it is self evident in the benefit that it is only possible through harm to the brain and central nervous system which is a one way street and also not disclosed to or described to patients.”

    [good point James makes about the ECT machine of Frantz Fanon being appropriated by French ‘administrators’ for use in interrogations in Algeria. Free healthcare? Fanon recognising the absurdity of treating Police for the trauma they suffered as a result of the amount of torturing they were doing (the screams from the use of electricity. Perhaps the use of ear muff by our police may be considered as an occupational necessity when using their tazers to torture? I won’t post the video, but it’s available on Youtube. It’s okay though, we’re ‘sportwashing’ our human rights abuses), and getting them back to work as quickly as possible.]

    Though I think this does not recognise the way in which this ‘treatment’ can be weaponized to silence truths not preferred by the State. There are many famous examples of this being done, though making mention of such examples can then be called a ‘symptom’ and used to justify the ‘treatment’ (see for example the way my documents were “edited” to remove the proof that I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and my claim that I had been drugged without my knowledge then became a ‘paranoid delusion’ and used for police to make a ‘referral’ for ‘treatment’ to conceal their misconduct ie interrogations of people they have drugged without their knowledge with psychotropics. Later to become their “Regular Medications” with a fraudulent prescription uttered with by a Senior Medical Officer, concealing acts of torture for his ‘colleagues’).

    Most people I have spoken to about the enabling act of my State government (allowing children of 14 years old to access the ‘treatment’) weren’t even aware that this barbaric practice was still occurring. And I suppose that given the way our Minister for Health responds to any questions regarding the legal protections afforded the community by our laws (“Get Treated”…. ie anyone questioning his interpretation of the law is a mental patient requiring treatments) it might be best those within his scope of influence keep their mouths shut.

  • “Psychiatry couldn’t exist as a grossly failed medical specialty that actually kills it’s patients if it wasn’t serving a very basic but inhumane, warped need of society.”

    Hence the need when someone turns up with the proof that this is precisely what it is being used for, that the politicians need to separate themselves from the ‘offending’ by forcing through Euthanasia Laws. The ‘joint enterprise’ (RICO) nature of enabling this function to exist, a serious issue should they ever be exposed for the “editing” of the legal narrative post hoc in one of their ‘unintended negative outcomes’. (the buck stops where without these laws?) Such concealment makes them co conspirators…… fact. Anyone care to take a look at the letter that was forged by the Law Centre purporting to be from the Chief Psychiatrist to conceal arbitrary detentions, torture, and then …. well, best we don’t talk about that right? How easily these ‘human rights lawyers’ find it to throw their own ‘clients’ under a bus with the blessing of the State huh?

    Josef Hartinger caused the very same problem for Himmler with the two deaths at Dachau he investigated, and Himmler resolved it in EXACTLY the same way as our State government has…… make it possible to ‘dispose’ of people for their ‘potential’, and then “edit” the documents to create the illusion of it being ‘voluntary’……. and thus the ‘treatment; was effective Bob

    markps2 writes;

    “We can talk ourselves out of it with the excuse that it would have cost me my head if I had spoken out.”

    Even asking a simple question (will this ability of the State to “edit” legal narrative to conceal human rights abuses be available with the Euthanasia Law Minister? The answer after a patient was sent to the morgue before being declared dead providing me with the answer I required. Could you back date the Death Certificate Doctor?) will result in you being threatened with forced treatment (and with laws changing killing to a ‘treatment’ with post hoc “editing”? I can prove the uttering with the fraudulent set of documents, but that fact doesn’t seem to suit the authorities so…….. they deny me access to legal representation. I can’t even divorce to have my property returned to enable me to leave).

    Oh how I wish I could be allowed to live in a place where speaking the truth would not see you ‘fucking destroyed’ by the people you elect, and who pass laws which create the appearance of protections whilst those with a duty to act simply neglect that duty (refuse to take documented proof, and then declare “insufficient evidence” while the ‘hospital’ resolves their problem with a ‘hotshot’), and the documents get “edited”.

    The ‘dark corner’ required to have absolute political control has already been realised, but we seem too busy worrying about the human rights abuses of others to see what is occurring under the shadow of our own noses. Our Politicians most certainly aware of the ‘function’ given the way our ex Treasurer fled the State when it looked like he was about to be ‘referred’ by Police for ‘mental health treatments’……. and the Premier needing to cover up the attempt by citing ‘confidentiality’. Lets make a deal huh? You keep your mouth shut, and we’ll leave you with more than jello for a brain?

    I’m unsure if labelling citizens as “Outpatients” (unseen) and then dispatching police to detain them is possible in the US of A. We have laws making it a crime, but for some reason police never seem to take the proof before the “Outpatients’ are ‘chemically restrained’ and subjected to ‘forced treatments’.

  • It’s a long documentary Birdsong, but if you have time it’s well worth the effort. It might explain how Eddie Bernays took up some of his uncle Sigmunds ideas and used them, and why Josef Goebbels wanted to hire him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s&t=530s

    You can’t diagnose and drug groups of people….. yet?

    Think of ‘mental health’ as marketing, and not medicine? Eg cigarette smoking as ‘political’ (torches of freedom) and not a cancer causing habit?

    Play on peoples deep, irrational fears. Teenagers and suicide…. what good parent wouldn’t want to have their child ‘monitored’?

  • That despite the fact that the debate between the Situationalists (Mischel) and Personologists (Allport) seemed to demonstrate quite clearly that it is the ‘situation’ which determines behaviours, and NOT some set of personality traits.

    But I guess despite the evidence, I still listen to my “stars’ on the radio as I drive to the store each morning.

    Why did I just imagine a radio show where you are instructed what drugs to take based on your star sign? “Capricorn, ….money matters become and important part of your day. Listen to a firend who has some good advice. Take two anti psychotics in the morning, and a benzo after lunch. Sagittarius……”

  • It would be very easy for me to think about the Head of the E.D. who is making life and death decisions on a daily basis as being a psychopath…… but it’s just his job to make those decisions. And sometimes he/she is going to get it wrong. I mean the look of enjoyment in is eyes when he was about to have me restrained and injected with his ‘cocktail’ harvested from another patient’ said a lot…… “I’m the Boss around here”…….. though it seemed not, given his rapid change of physical posture when he was commanded to attend a meeting with Prof. and ‘friend’

    And there is a point where you become desensitised to it all and ….. well, a mate offers you a carton of beer to let one ‘slip through’ for convenience. In a moment of weakness, you take the offer. Who you know, and who you owe…. as it was put to me.

    There are of course people who ‘oversee’ such processes…… and in my instance one of them claims he didn’t have the stomach for it. A perfectly good man before they started in on me, though I do believe that letting them ‘do the deed’ before interrupting was the better option with hindsight. The viciousness of the State sanctioned torture making it more economically viable to provide ‘medical assistance’ in the regulation of heartbeat to someone unlikely to recover from the deliberate ‘fuking destruction’ of their life, career, home, family ….. because of a need for a preferred truth….

  • I’ve tried to be careful about ‘diagnosing’ the filthy dogs who did what they did to me. Fact is, I don’t need the slanderous labels created by these frauds to recognise people who are nothing more than ‘backstabbers’, hypocrites’ and ‘frauds’.

    Saying someone has ‘narcissistic personality disorder’ or ‘borderline personality disorder’ would make ME into the thing I hate the most…….. them.

    Though I understand how easy it is to fall into their trap.

  • Oh, of course I am not taking into account the large amount of phone calls shared between my wife and the Clinic Psychologist which I was, at the time, unaware of. I thought I had a right to tell both the ‘therapist’ and my wife that I did not want them to speak to one another….. and of course by this time they were conspiring to conceal their criminal conduct….. so lying and deceiving about their regular contact and sharing of information from the hospital (who became aware of the unlawful release of my records, and other matters) AND the legal representation I had arranged, was necessary.

    The hospital requesting proof that I was ‘someones’ patient (lest the kidnapping be exposed) from my wife and the clinic psychologist mentioned on the documents, and they being unable to provide that proof unless they either (a) had me sign away my rights and obtain a ‘referral’ to the psychologist, or (b) forge some documents which would be willingly accepted by the FOI Officer who was also desperately seeking ways to extract herself from the criminal conspiracy to pervert the course of justice she found herself engaged in.

    One of the cleverest ‘tricks’ or ‘cons’ I’ve seen performed by the FOI Officer. Always beware when you receive three letters on the same day, and only one requires a signature. What are the consequences if you remove the other two, and leave only the one with the signature? It this instance it created the appearance that I had never asked for the documents demonstrating the crimes, and therefore the concealment of those offences by the FOI Officer never happened…….. she was ‘out’ of the crimes she had committed by denying me my lawful right to my medical records, and thus concealing the crimes for my ‘wife’ who she KNEW was not my ‘guardian’ (though it was helpful for her to unlawfully appoint her as such until she and the psychologist could remove my human rights). Not unlike the Senior Medical Officer making me into an “Outpatient” of the hospital to unlawfully procure police for his kidnapping and torture session.

    And keep in mind I was employed by the State to oversee some large contracts, and have seen pretty much all of the ‘hustles’ that can be used to get around the clauses.

  • Funny, (well sort of) but the Clinic Psychologist who provided the ‘advice’ to my wife to return home and ‘spike’ me with date rape drugs and then unlawfully released my medical records started saying my wife had Borderline Personality Disorder once it became clear her ‘conduct’ may come into question.

    So not only was she slandering ME by unlawfully releasing those confidential medical records, but she was then making diagnosis of someone who she had sat with for less than an hour, and conspired to commit criminal offences with when it became clear my wife might talk to police if they actually took the proof of the offences from me.

    I suppose proactively discrediting my wife was a form of ‘insurance’? Just in case she decided to not continue conspiring in the abuse of me?

    It must be quite a world she lives in, where anyone who disagrees with you view of the world is mentally ill and should be brain damaged by her husband because he is a psychiatrist.

    In fact, I still laugh about the claim that I was not being ‘morally relative’ about the way I was ‘treated’. Moral relativism being the hiding place of abusers.

  • Oh I wouldn’t say that people have gone unpunished. That’s a long way from the truth. Sometimes the fear of who else is aware of your ‘evil’ acts can be punishment enough…….in others it might be best they don’t see the blow coming.

    The good news for me is that whilst the delivery of some of these individuals has not yet occurred, I have a promise that it will happen in my lifetime.

    Habakkuks complaint ……….
    How long, Lord, must I call for help,
    but you do not listen?
    Or cry out to you, “Violence!”
    but you do not save?
    Why do you make me look at injustice?
    Why do you tolerate wrongdoing?
    Destruction and violence are before me;
    there is strife, and conflict abounds.
    Therefore the law is paralyzed,
    and justice never prevails.
    The wicked hem in the righteous,
    so that justice is perverted

    And the Lords answer.

    Look at the nations and watch—
    and be utterly amazed.
    For I am going to do something in your days
    that you would not believe,
    even if you were told.

  • Care to see a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist where he utters with a KNOWN fraudulent document in the false belief that the documents showing that this was the case had been retrieved by Police?

    Think that’s bad? wait until you realise that this letter was forged by the Principle of the Law Centre once they had checked with me to find out if I still had the documents that so concerned Police. imagine your own lawyer conspiring with corrupt public officers to ensure you were ‘fuking destroyed’ rather than allowed to make a complain about being subjected to human rights abuses?

  • I have tried trusting on a number of occasions, only to have that trust brezached.

    An example is the ‘therapist’ who spent more than a year going over my trauma, and getting me to a place where I could go to Police with the proof I have and make a complaint. When I approached police, they rang mental health services to have my ‘referred’ for “hallucinating”. They were put in contact with this psychologist who clarified that claiming you had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs without your knowledge MAY be a hallucination, but that having the documented proof of it being done made it a crime…….Ball in their court. No Police referral, and they then tried to arrest me for having my medical records…… and being denied legal representation I said I would represent myself in court and to charge me with??????

    Police had of course provided the hospital with ‘assistance’ to retrieve these documents before sending out the fraudulent (“edited”) set to the Law Centre, or so they thought….. problem. They just tried to have a victim of a crime subjected to mental health treatments for reporting public sector misconduct……..

    So it took them a while to come up wit a plan….. in the meantime I had a bit of a laugh with the psychologist about the stupidity of police trying to refer me for ‘treatment’ for speaking the truth, and having the proof…….

    It was a couple of weeks later as matters progressed, and I spent an hour and a half speaking to a Member of Parliament and showing him the two sets of documents (the real set showing the crimes, and the “edited” legal narrative provided to the Law Centre) that the psychologist seemed to get what I would describe as ‘fidgetty’.

    I raised the issue of the call he received from police attempting to refer me for “hallucinating” and he bold faced LIED to me. “It never happened” was his claim….. how gaslighting is that? Denying a known fact? Not just that though, he then started questioning me seeking answers the police might want to know, without having to take any evidence from me…….”who else has got the documents?”

    So I explained to him that there were a number of Members of Parliament, the Mental Health Commissioner, The Corruption watchdog, a number of lawyers, the Chief Psychiatrist, a cleaner at the hospital, and some guy begging for money at the street corner ….. in other words, a whole bunch of people.

    He became really frightened and siad he was afraid for the safety of his family…….. and basically made up some shit about me (slander the ‘mental patient’ easy huh?) and tried to have me referred to a Police ‘friendly’ (though good news was we had already discussed an ‘exit strategy’ should this situation ever occur….. he thought it was my paranoid delusions, until the police started threatening his family lol. They he did what he was told, exploit trust and obtain answers to these questions for police…… they were busy concealing the misconduct while the authorities watched)

    This breach of trust has caused me significant problems, though it wasn’t an isolated incident. I could describe two other ‘mental health professionals’ who have basically exploited my trust in regard these matters, breaching agreements because they are being threatened.. and sure I get what it’s like to be subjected to a mock execution to ‘coerce’ you to act in a certain manner.

    I prefer the truth rather than the “edited” version of reality presented by the State to conceal post hoc their human rights abuses, and to protect their criminal resources. And sure, i’m outnumbered, and the people who boast about caring about human rights and torture are described in my Book as al munafiqqun (the hypocrites).

    I get the feeling I will go to my grave not ever trusting again. My only hope was that my government may provide me with assistance given I have the documented proof that I was arbitrarily detained and tortured…. it seems they prefer the documents the State is forging and uttering with to conceal their human rights abuses.

  • One question David.

    In my religion there is a debate regarding music. I have heard it said that “music is the Devils Quran” by some. Others are not so ‘strict’ in their interpretation of the Book (and Hadiths), going so far as to create what is called taqwacore music……

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNFjIkUodv4

    Personally i’m an ‘undecided’ on this matter, though would say that leaving myself psychologically vulnerable after being tortured does not at this time seem like a good idea. My ‘resolution’ lies with those who did wrong, making an admission and as far as possible making amends (which I am told is not what the State will do, and what I have personally witnessed…….. they simply ‘fuking destroy’ anyone that is an inconvenient truth, ………. their ‘agreements’ ratified with the United Nations mean nothing. “They will take their oaths as a cover” (63;2)

    Have you come across this issue in the many countries you have distributed your program?

  • No problem David,

    Steve’s a pretty clever fella, and I hope he takes a look at your program. A tick from him is worth ten from a mug like me.

    Personally I’m trying to get away from anything that even remotely smells of ‘mental health’, given I have lost everything as a result of simply being ‘touched’ by a leper called a ‘therapist’. The knowledge gained by these professionals can be used so easily to inflict deliberate harm, and for that reason I have described the process as being like having dinner with a rapist. Everything is fine as long as they are getting the smiles and approval, but try saying no and you will see the real person behind the mask.

    So traumatized I am, and have been worked over by some vicious abusers working within the State hospital system to ensure I am never to be heard because they hate the truth, and conceal it with falsehoods.

    Confucius says “A man (or woman) who makes a mistake and does not correct it, makes a further mistake” I added the (or woman) for him, as he isn’t around to correct his mistake these days.

    I wish I had something to bequeath. I can’t even give the few belongings I has gathered since my “fuking destruction” by the State (the threat was quite open once they realised I had a legitimate complaint to be made) away to friends, as I no longer have any of those either….. they tend to side with the Jackboots. Still, in many ways, I don’t think there’s going to be much left the way things are going. “as yea sow, so shall yea reap” and all that. My community voted in a poll to allow police to allow vicious dogs to attack the faces of children (after it was reported being done). I walked the golf course the next day wondering what had become of the place I once lived. I’m glad the place I’m going has got to be better than this….. though a little on the warm side i’m told.

    Anyway, good luck with your program.

  • Hi again Joanna,

    Yes I can see the issue with the ‘attitude’ towards ‘mental patients’. I am reminded of the article about psychiatric hate speech and a form of apartheid, but……. I guess it’s for Dr Shields to sort out her ‘issues’ in the end. She obviously isn’t listening to any of us.

    You write;

    “When I was locked on a psychiatric ward, police simply hang up on me when I called them from the public phone on the ward (my mobile phone had been stolen by some other patients). I was having delusions (e.g. on one day I became convinced that I was going to be gang-raped and murdered), but I could see that police did not even want to talk to patients from a mental hospital.”

    You know I have been homeless now for 11 years, haven’t seen my daughter or grandchildren, and my working life was basically destroyed once my medical records were released (the Operations Manager ensuring that my ‘licences’ were suspended as part of her vicious assault on my life)……. and oh how I wish ot were the case that Police were simply turning away a ‘mental patient’.

    I knew that it would be difficult for me to be heard so I enlisted the ‘help’ of a psychologist and a social worker. If you can imagine that the Police had a little fun with me until they realised the significance of the documents they had refused to accept while the hospital ‘resolved’ their little problem of lying to police and forging documents to conceal their abuses of me……… Such assistance to criminals is no doubt appreciated, though a problem should a person be capable of actually proving it. And it scares the crap out of lawyers…… the criminals sitting comfortable in the thought that the proof had been retrieved, and the forging and uttering with a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist and ‘flagging’ me for what is called ‘stitching’ by police where I live.

    So I have a lawyer telling me I have the proof, and then police refuse to accept the documents (not even wanting to put their fingers on hem because their prints would be proof of examination) and the ‘incident’ is closed due to “insufficient evidence”. Now I can prove these offences with the documents alone, not a word from my mouth required…. but if police will neglect their duty despite having the documented proof of such serious offences??? That constituting serious misconduct?

    The bigger issue becomes ‘what if they did examine those offences, what else would they find?’.

    I have laid awake at nights at times wishing that what I witnessed was a ‘delusion’, but i’m sad to say that it wasn’t. I get it that the Police don’t want it to be true, and have the ability to steal my laptop and find out who else has seen the ‘proof’ and ensure that they don’t provide me with any assistance because they actually hate that truth….. and it might mean they would then need to examine what ‘proof’ I have of the matters I am alleging occurred in the E.D. You know my delusion (mainly due to no one wishing to examine the evidence) about the way the problem of me complaining about being snatched form my bed, arbitrarily detained and tortured was going to be ‘resolved’ while the police refused to take the documents from me showing the motive for the attempted ‘resolution’.

    Where the police in on it? Their reaction when I turned up with the documents suggest the answer is in the affirmative. You know, someone interrupted proceedings that night, and well, it was difficult for my wife to maintain the multiple narratives she was expected to, AND arrange for a new man to move in once I had been disposed of.

    Point being that despite me wanting it all to be a delusion, it wasn’t. I would seek treatment if I thought it was, but before that occurs perhaps someone would care to take a look at the ‘dead mans handle’ I have been holding on to for some time now? i know things among it that were delusional, but the attempt to snuff me wasn’t one of them….. but what a great way to make someone seem insane. Because the knee jerk reaction is “They wouldn’t do that”…. and once they figure out they would do that well….. they run away.

    One of the truths that makes me so sure of it not being a delusion is that I KNOW others are aware of the truth…… though they have been subjected to threats and intimidation to remain silent.

    I find myself wondering about the panic in the Police when their ‘resource’ Lawyer X/Nicola Gobbo was exposed. And then consider the ‘clients’ of the Private Clinic and some of the legal action which their confidential medical records related to?

    I don’t need to explain the effect of such breaches in my round about “verbose” and “querulous” way (who would have thought they have drugs for those illnesses?). A High Court Judge said it best when he wrote;

    [Gobbos] actions in purporting to act as counsel for the Convicted Persons while covertly informing against them were fundamental and appalling breaches of [Gobbos] obligations as counsel to her clients and of [Gobbos] duties to the court. Likewise, Victoria Police were guilty of reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging [Gobbo] to do as she did and were involved in sanctioning atrocious breaches of the sworn duty of every police officer to discharge all duties imposed on them faithfully and according to law without favour or affection, malice or ill-will. As a result, the prosecution of each Convicted Person was corrupted in a manner which debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system.”

    And let me say the uses that the Clinic Psychologist was put to AFTER their little ‘resolution’ was so rudely interrupted by my wife’s Prof. friend in the E.D. would result in a very similar response from a person of integrity.

    Me? I’m not so much a person of integrity, and understand the reasoning behind the ‘little bit of dirty’ they got up to. In fact, these werre basic street hustles being used by a psychologist, her psychiatrist husband, and hospital administrators against a ‘mental patient’………. my how they must have wondered how I kept slipping through the net lmao.

    And it had to end when they really weren’t sure “who else has got the documents” and had to run around stealing my shit (laptop, have the psychologist and socila worker bring them up to speed about who else I had been speaking to……. oh Dear, not the Spanish Inquisition lol) to find out if anyone else had figured out what they had been up to….. that is, perverting the course of justice and unlawfully accessing confidential medical records form a Private Clinic (the system differences may not be immediately apparent).

    Oh how I wish it were all a delusion but the people who ‘informally’ thanked me were a delusion. Obviously they can’t help me because their duty is to the State, not unlike Senior Police who come across filth taking money from drug dealers, they don’t report that to the newspapers.

    The inability to access the protection of the law (via Police) once you are made into an “Outpatient” by a Community Nurse before he even leaves the hospital to torture a confession out of you is a problem. Police I believe tend to rely on the information provided to them from the ‘medical staff’ at such facilities.

    But what if, for example, the perpetrator is actually the person in that ‘medical’ role? For example the Senior Medical Officer who wrote the fraudulent prescription to conceal the ‘spiking’ of me with date rape drugs was also an ex psychiatrist (misconduct?) and an ex Catholic priest?

    Is he likely to confirm any allegations of rape by his colleagues to police? Or would he be more likely to ‘treat’ the truth speaker with brain damage, and slander them with labels? History seems to show that there were ‘silencing mechanisms’ which allowed these predators to operate with impunity, sometimes racking up more than 300 victims…….. and that didn’t happen without someone knowing and being ‘verbose’ and ‘querulous’.

    Quid pro quo…. what did he have to offer in exchange for a result of “insufficient evidence”? Well, he certainly showed how to arbitrarily detain and torture using police resources, and then conceal it with fraudulent documents. that’s gotta be worth something?

  • This ‘supplemental’ diagnoses is going to make the ‘hack’ of 9 million peoples confidential medical records from Medibank interesting.

    There are people who would be blissfully unaware of the slander that has been attached to their records as a means to bleed money from their insurances. Though I think some of them are about to find out….. having access to their records may mean they can be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, any court proceedings they may be involved in flushed down the toilet, …….. let me count the ways lol

    And people called me mad when I said I had a plan to make negligence, fraud and slander into a medical specialty?

  • I think the sub title to Goffmans book tells a lot of the story

    “Stigma; Notes on the management of spoiled identity”. And believe me, when these vicious dogs at mental health smear you with the stink they wield as a weapon, you are going to need to do more than ‘manage’ your spoiled identity.

    Keeping me trapped in this place and denying me the right to legal representation to retrieve my belongings and leave? A means of ensuring the truth isn’t seen by others, and ensuring the threat to fuking destroy me and my family for daring to complain about public sector misconduct. I guess the “editing” must have got a bit much over the E.D. matters huh?

    Of course these ‘bad apples’ need to be concealed from public view because …. well because they were provided with ‘assistance’ from other corrupt public officers who could see the benefit in such ‘resources’….. until the documents proving what I am saying turned up in a Police station…. at which point it was every man/woman for themselves.

    But it does seem to me that the people who are smearing the shit on others, must by definition become stigmatised? I mean, eventually they traced the Cholera back to the Broad Street water supply right?

  • Glad you noticed.

    The Law Centre ‘advocates’ did try and get the people they ……. difficult to say ‘represent’ because that’s not actually what they are doing, they are part of the smoke and mirrors creating an image of fairness but ….. they did try and get “mental patients” on a par with animals. And I suppose by passing their Euthanasia laws they achieved that, allowing them to be ‘put down’ when “life unworthy of living” could be fabricated in the documentation required to subvert the laws “more than 100 protections”.

    And as I have said before, the response to me complaining about the “editing” of legal narrative is to threaten to have me ‘treated’. And euthanasia is now a ‘treatment’ and no longer an offence? And the documents can be “edited” so the risks we are speaking about here in regards going against the flow (status quo) may be a little more severe than as first thought.

  • Where’s the “edit” function Steve?

    In fact, my rights were removed by the hospital before they even got a call from my wife. Consider that a prescription was written for the drugs that I had been ‘spiked’ with the night before she even called them……. so by backdating the prescription for the offence (which was part of enabling acts of torture) they have managed to reach back in time and remove my right to not be poisoned (assaulted) without my consent (which after all they have absolutely no respect for anyway. Anyone says no, pin them down and do it anyway is the motto in Latin on the Charter of Healthcare Rights lol)

  • In fact, consider that in my instance, they made me into an “Outpatient” of a hospital as a result of a telephone call from someone.

    Imagine having the power to remove someones ‘rights’ before you even lay eyes on them? And treat them as less than an animal?

    And these are the same people complaining about ‘human rights abuses’ by Morality Police in Iran?

  • “Should we even treat psychiatric patients as people?”

    Hi Joanna, I see that as being a very valid question in my State. Consider that the abuse of a “mental patient” in my State carries a penalty HALF of what the abuse of an animal carries.

    And as an animal you are likely to have charges brought against the abuser, and there have been many successful convictions in our courts.

    Mental patients however….. there was mention of a woman who, as a result of her complaining, had access to her prosthetic legs denied, and was left in her own faeces for more than 24 hours……, or …….and yet there has NEVER been a successful prosecution of ANYONE under those laws ‘protecting’ “mental patients”

    So at present I’d say that “mental patients” are not people, they have no rights, and can easily be denied access to the protection of the law. Which can be seen very easily when they approach police and ask that they take a complaint about offences which have been committed against them. Police will ‘play along’ knowing that they will simply gaslight the victims, and that nothing will be done about the bit of fun they have with them. Many a sexual assault been turned away by police because of the attitude coming from the top….. our Minister for Mental Health stating about the allegation of large numbers of sexual assaults in hospitals “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”.

  • Can’t edit the above so……

    I would add that it was spoken about by my wife in a matter of fact way that when she and the clinic psychologist were planning my abuse that they gave careful consideration to the fact that Police might shoot me because of (a) my reaction to being ‘spiked’ with the date rape drugs was unknown [not drugs I had ever taken before] and (b) that the need to plant a weapon on me to make me seem dangerous, whilst creating the ‘risk’ they required [ie combine the lie of “mental patient” with “in possession of a weapon”] they decided that it was worth the risk to my life to have me speak to someone about my decision which had upset my wife.

    I personally would have thought that maybe someone approaching my front door, knocking on it and asking to speak to me might have been the ‘standard’ method, though my right to refuse to speak to a ‘mental health professional’ did get in the way of that….. so subjecting me to torture and arbitrary detention was the only real option. And the hospital a little embarrassed when they found out I wasn’t actually anyone’s ‘patient’ and that their conspiring to commit these offences (though knowing they could “edit” reality and have me snuffed for complaining) had been exposed via their own documents………. still, you have to accept that they were arbitrarily detaining and torturing in good faith, because they said so. And were they aware of their own offending? (mens rea?). You don’t arrange to kill someone because you made a mistake.

  • “She seems not to realize that people can try to force their partners or family members into treatment not because they care about them, but because they want to control them, punish them or even get rid of them.”

    There have been laws passed recently in Australia to make “coercive control” unlawful. I mean, I was absolutely flabbergasted that my wife could ring police when her boyfriend was in town and have me forcefully removed from my home for something which the police would make up on the spot (“intoxicated” when I haven’t touched alcohol in more than 20 years?). But of course by this time I had been smeared with the stink of mental health services, and it would have been difficult for them to back of kicking me to death just because they had been informed of my wifes assaults on me (the attempt to knife me in the chest whilst lying on the couch, the drugging without knowledge). Best they just become part of the abuse, as they would be well aware of what happens to people smeared by mental health….. it’s a service they use regularly to dispose of inconvenient truths.

    “The new law will make it an offence to carry out repeated abusive behaviours to a current or former intimate partner with the intent to coerce or control, and will carry a sentence of up to seven years in jail.”

    So the ‘i’m going to knife you for disagreeing with me’ and when that fails, ‘i’m going to drug you without your knowledge and have police beat you senseless, and force you to talk to a psychiatrist until you agree with me’ might result in people going to prison…….. rather than the forging and uttering with documents to manipulate the legal narrative as is being done at present…… along with the ‘unintended negative outcomes’ while police look the other way.

    I can see a great business opportunity given the mess that mental health services can make of someone’s life. And the State will actually ensure that the victims are denied access to legal representation because of the conspiring to pervert the course of justice (mandatory prison) etc by public officers. They HAVE to protect the predators, lest they shoot themselves in the foot, even going so far as to threaten my wife and ‘reward’ her with everything I ever worked for in exchange for her ‘assistance’ with their offending.

    So it will be interesting to see how these new laws work. Because the procuring of police (and mental health) as personal thugs to control intimate partners seems to be ‘standard operating procedure’ at present.

    It might be worth looking back at Prof. Bonnie Burstows experience with regards speaking out.

  • “So even oncologists ought to be engaging with their patients as human beings, for their own health and the success of their interventions.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/oncologist-john-kearsley-jailed-after-drugging-and-indecently-assaulting-doctor-20160826-gr1q75.html

    Well, not too much ‘engagement’. Interesting that this guy, an actual doctor gives someone 1/4 the amount of benzos I was ‘administered’ and he goes to prison? A clinic psychologist with a Masters degree can have it administered at those rates to someone she KNOWS doesn’t take such drugs and …… a doctor writes a prescription for them 12 hours after they were unlawfully administered to commit other offences?

    Australians value a rule of law? Yeah right.

  • “Because Graham is finding out the antidote to his problems, is pure poison to everyone else” lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    I think the way my reaction to being ‘spiked’ (poisoned) was documented as being the illness that required me to be forcefully administered the drug which had caused the problems in the first place says it all. “Negligence is an extreme thing” (Hagakure), though very useful for manipulating outcomes in medicine.

    I think the way that Grahams step mother figured out that she was being poisoned at the point when she could no longer communicate is a place that many ‘psychiatric survivors’ know well.

  • Hi again Joanna,

    what really concerns me most is how brief my experiences with the psychiatric system were, and the amount of damage they could inflict deliberately, in such a short period of time.

    I was so pleased to read Dr Moncrieffs article “Psychiatric Diagnosis as a political device”. It explained to me what the psychiatrist at the Private Clinic had done to assist my compensation lawyers to resolve the issue with my employer (the State). Had I actualised my potential as a whistleblower I have little doubt I would not be even capable of writing this comment….. but I didn’t. An agreement was reached and I was ready to move on with the compensation I received for the damage that had been done…… and as I walked out the door from the Clinic which had done the report for my lawyer…… smack over the back of the head with the release of my ‘diagnosis’ as a political device.

    The ‘diagnosis’ used in the first instance to do good (resolve conflict), and then weaponsied by the clinic psychologist to extract the compensation from my wallet once Shanghaied by her husband Putting electricity to my head against my will (I had already told her what I thought of the “barbaric practice” when she suggested I use my new found wealth on ‘treatments’). I have no doubt my political beliefs upset her when I explained I could do the same damage with a ball peen hammer, it just looks a little more brutal.

    Not the psychiatrist, but a psychologist (with a Masters degree) has released the ‘diagnosis’ to the hospital which she and my wife have arranged to arbitrarily detain and torture me (with the promise of the release of the confidential information once they had done so….. making it not a crime under the Federal Privacy Act….. well, the conspiring to conceal the unlawful release was still a crime and …… you get the picture I’m sure).

    I did try and pay someone to write up my story for publication (i’m obviously not capable of achieving that anymore, simply being left to relive my trauma in the feeble attempts), though they simply took the documentation and instead of standing by their agreement, contacted the authorities and pointed out the problem they had because the police had failed to retrieve the documents showing the arbitrary detention, torture, concealment of the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs with a fraudulent prescription, and unlawful release of my confidential medical records form a Private Clinic (called a “dog act” and the people doing it “scumbags” by a Federal Member of Parliament. Though not in my State, they are provided ‘assistance’ to conceal their offending, and taken on a ‘resources’ to pervert the course of justice. My personal belief is that those whose records were compromised should have been informed….. not the preferred option of those who interrupted the resolution these people had planned for me in the E.D.). Not a lot of use threatening someone in my position, they had already taken everything from me, including my family. But, the threats were issued anyway.

    I have tried to speak to ‘mental health professionals’ regarding these matters, though their resolution is to send me down the path of brain damage to silence me. All roads lead to Rome it seems when the truth doesn’t suit the State. A good ‘test’ of sorts, will they do their duty to the State, or support someone with a legitimate complaint about human rights abuses?

    So in my instance, it wasn’t the psychiatrist who was doing something ‘evil’, but the parasite he was unknowingly carrying in his Private Clinic. That most certainly changed after the events at the E.D. My wife explained how there had been a few ‘problems’ at the Clinic……It would be ludicrous to assert that the psychiatrist wasn’t made aware of the ‘problems’.

    The major problem as I see it is not the police providing assistance to people who came within an inch of murdering me in the E.D. (and being rudely interrupted by someone who “doesn’t have the stomach for it”), or the hospital and the Law Centre conspiring to pervert the course of justice with their “ediitng” of legal narrative and forging and uttering with a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist, but the fact that they kept these criminals in place and exploited that situation for nearly two years……. and then Boans walked into a Police station with the documents with a whole bunch of people watching.

    The attempt to have me ‘referred’ for “hallucinating” by police to mental heath based on the ‘flag’ on my file? A crime, witnessed by a Social Worker and a Psychologist. Both became afraid and later, despite documented proof, claimed “It never happened”. Because police are using ‘mental health services’ to silence any victims of certain criminals? They have a ‘preferred criminals’ list? Or were the benefits being gained by from these criminals worth having me ‘snowed’?

    At that point they had to ‘turn’, and start pretending that they were doing there duty, rather than protecting their ‘resource’ that they were committing serious Federal offences to maintain………. not that it matters when it can all be “edited” before being presented to the Feds (who will no doubt support the State as opposed to their victims. No assistance is forthcoming, not even to allow me to have my property to leave this ‘place’).

    And the person who was going to ‘help’ me write this all up? Now prefers that “it never happened” and to keep his name out of it all. Of course the agreement to return the documents? No chance, they can be used to assassinate character and obtain benefits from the State for doing so. (particularly the “edited” ones weaponised and used to slander…… so the State understands the significance of the release of peoples medical records with this Medibank ‘hack’, because they actively engage in using peoples medical records to ‘fuking destroy’ their victims….demonstrable fact).

    Sure I get it, allowing organised criminals to kill a few innocent people to ensure they don’t find out that the authorities are on to them is a good tactic. I’m just pissed that it was me they were going to allow to be killed. The British did the same when they cracked the Enigma Code , allowed thousands of soldiers to die to ensure the Germans didn’t find out they had cracked it.

    I guess i’d say please don’t feel sad for me, that’s the last thing I actually want. Consider that at some point these people are going to receive a ‘visitor’, and they will be confronted with their wrongdoing. It may be tomorrow, it may be in 30 years, but I can guarantee it will happen I am reminded of Paul Lazzaros words in Slaughterhouse Five.

    I feel glad that I have managed to hold back my anger over these matters, it would have been a mistake to have acted hastily. Sun Tzu writes “an angry man can later become happy, a resentful man can become pleased, but a kingdom once destroyed can never be restored nor the dead brought back to life”. The attempt by the people who gaslighted me to insanity deliberately (wife, prof. friend, hospital administrators and Law Centre) and then attempted to point that anger at a specific individual to have him killed FAILED. Though I understand how such opportunism by people who think they are god may appear to be justified. Better they do their own dirty work, and exploit the trust of the individual to do them harm. Not too difficult when you know a good radiographer.

    Anyway, glad you refuse to listen to psychiatrists. Strangely I was never actually given access to the ‘diagnosis’ which was being handed around behind my back. This was part of the means used by the psychiatrist to protect me from myself (the political device). That information was meant to ‘die’ in the clinic (once resolution was reached), though a clever psychologist and her Shock Doc husband it would seem had found ways of stealing those diagnoses, and using them to knife ‘clients’ and steal their wallets……..and the State provided them with an awful lot of material support in that regard. Even tipping them off about me still having the documents so they could flee the State overnight.

    I appreciate your comments Joanna. It’s been people like you who have brought me to the truth. Despite the bad taste it leaves in my mouth that the Nation I offered to die to protect would treat me like this, I’m glad to be where I’m at. Okay, so the State is arbitrarily detaining and torturing citizens…. surely they know what’s best for us? And if they have to kill a few people to maintain their ‘relationships’ with their ‘confidential informants’, and maintain their ‘good reputation’, isn’t such a sacrifice a noble thing for the despised mental patient to take to their grave with them? It’s not like were digging big pits to bulldoze them into…….. yet. Though we have had to pass Euthanaisa Laws to ensure that the buck stops way before the Premier. The ‘joint enterprise’ (RICO laws in the US I believe) nature of the offending could be disastrous if anyone ever called these people to account (see Josef Hartinger and the problems he cause for Himmler).

    Isn’t plausible deniability combined with the right to “edit” legal narratives a beautiful thing?

    I guess we would have to cut Morgan Shields some slack in that regard. Knowing how far these people will go to maintain their ‘reputations’, treading softly might be her only choice? People who can call police and have you detained and tortured for no reason? They simply tell Police your an “Outpatient” and they then ‘ take you into custody’ with a request for a bit of roughing up?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    And sure I get it, many refuse to examine the documents I have because they prefer that isn’t the truth about where they live….. not unlike the Germans. “They wouldn’t do that?”

  • Hi James,

    sorry to hear you haven’t been well.

    Glad your at least aware of the ‘move’ to use these devices in ‘care’ settings.

    The idea of human rights abuses overseas doesn’t seem to quite fit with what has been going on where I live. The State has been subjecting some children to human rights abuses, and the assumption on their part is that due to media ‘support’ they can basically torture kids and use the unaccountability model to get away with it.

    One claim by the Minister is that he is unaware of the use of the ‘restraint techniques’ which has shown to result in deaths being used in the facilities he oversees. Strange but I got the term “unintended negative outcomes” from a report by the Chief Psychiatrist into some deaths which occurred in a mental health facility as a result of ‘restraint techniques’ some time back, which was no doubt tabled in Parliament? Perhaps he was being wined and dined at ‘Soapworld’ on a Corporate Credit Card the day this was discussed? The State still denying public access to the laptop with the videos of our ‘finest’ during this meeting with the business community. A ‘happy ending’ no doubt what the State has in mind.

    Our Premier has a very good way with words (and a ‘friend’ who owns the television station who gives him a pat on the head for being a good boy), and it can be seen that his claim of ignorance of what is being done to these ‘worst of the worst’ kids will receive support in the community (and maybe it will……again)

    One Judge pointing out what he calls the “perverse irony” of the State absolutely brutalising these kids, and making them into monsters they then release back on their communities. “If you want to make a monster, this is how you do it” a report into the facility states. If the parents treated them in this manner they would be charged and the kids removed from their care. Whats the difference? A mechanism to cover up and intimidate and threaten the witnesses? Call it ‘care’?

    I guess the ‘good news’ about all of this is that those who do the torture get to suffer from the trauma of it after some time (see Fanon). And they with a large pension/payout fall into the hands of people who can use force to provide the ‘care’ they may require, that is they are going to need to be ‘diagnosed’ before their exit from the service. Call it insurance on the part of the State if you will. It may also give some insight into the reasons so many officers are leaving, and putting their own weapons into their mouths, being ‘treated’ being the problem not the solution. And the call on the part of both the State AND their Union for MORE?

    It leaves me not really wondering why I managed to come across a ‘predatory pair’ operating out of a Private Clinic. Once the ‘business’ with the State has been dealt with, the slander produced to reach a resolution can then be ‘repurposed’ to remove any benefit these public officers may have gained. The attitude of the Private Clinic psychologist was that the compensation I had received was to be taken from my wallet with ‘forced treatments’ once she shuffled me sideways into the hands of the person who has the stomach for it all.

    I must admit it’s quite beautiful in it’s simplicity, someone who has gained your trust in an environment with a good reputation grabbing you on the way out the door and dragging you into a dark alley to have thugs mug you. The reputational damage to the Private Clinic means that those aware of the criminals operating within that environment can’t expose them. The best they can do is conceal the fact they left them operating there despite having the documented proof it was happening (police wondering “who else has the documents?”, and thus is aware of their ‘resource’ See the last chapter of Sun Tzu the Art of War for the problem the State then faced….was she acting as an ‘enemy agent’ the whole time? Feeding the State false information as she did in my instance? “patient” being the lie that set the whole destruction of life in motion?)……… there were of course benefits for the State with someone committing Federal offences by releasing confidential medical records, and setting ‘clients’ up to be arbitrarily detained and tortured by the State when they went for a legal medico report for their lawyers.

    Sitting in the waiting room next to a Member of Parliament who was eventually acquitted of the crimes he was alleged to have committed will give you some idea of the scale of ‘advantage’ to be achieved by such methods. Once again, the “elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'” (Fanon) can clearly be seen. And when you can’t trust your own psychologist (releasing the reports of the clinic psychiatrist unlawfully). Or your lawyer, who must act in the interest of the State despite being aware of the criminal misconduct and human rights abuses?

    I find myself wondering how the State is going to use the information which has been ‘hacked’ from our Medicare system. If my example is anything to go by, those listed in the released medical records titled “Psycho” would be best to start packing their belongings and leave now. Because there are people receiving support in the destruction of anyone the State sees as being a threat to their reputation. And there is no doubt the ‘hackers’ have done their homework, and the State will no doubt recognise the advantages of the public thinking it was Russians. Having such ‘dirt’ on people filed away will no doubt take some time to unravel, especially when the people who take their own lives can be attributed to ‘other causes’.

    Take care James, and stay well.

  • Hi Joanna

    “I think that one of the differences between slavery and the psychiatric system is that in many cases psychiatrists and other “mental health” staff do not have any reason to care about the physical state of patients.”

    Agreed. In fact, there are circumstances where it is in the interest of ‘mental health services’ to actually make people sick. There is both the financial benefit of getting the snout into the trough of medicare money (or other insurances if available), AND the ability to justify other treatments as a result of the ‘negative reactions’ to the use of the ‘chemical kosh’ (usually administered in my State as a ‘courtesy’). If you watch the movie “The Young Poisoners handbook” you will see how Graham Young used this method to poison and kill his step mother….. ‘she just needs more of the ‘medicine’ doctor?’

    So for example in my instance, my complaints about being arbitrarily detained and tortured (the complaint form thrown in the bin by the Senior Medical Officer conducting the abuses) then informs the Office of the Chief Psychiatrist that I was “breathing threats of litigation” on entry to the facility, and authorises the use of a list of chemicals which I was informed would have made me “very sick”.

    The documents show (though I was never asked about my ‘medications’….. mainly due to the doctor not wanting to be known to be aware that I didn’t take benzodiazepines, and he was concealing the ‘spiking’ with a fraudulent prescription), that I was to be forcefully given;

    Lorazepam 6mg (orally)
    Quetiapine 400mg (orally)
    Olanzapine 20mg (injected)

    This if I showed signs of agitation. Now let me say that given my wife was allowed to stand whilst I was interrogated and deliberately ‘bait’ me, knowing she had arranged for me to be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and then jumped in my bed by police to find the knife she had planted….. I was a little ‘agitated’ (that was the aim. I was warned the night before when she returned from the ‘planning session’ with the Private Clinic psychologist [with a Masters degree no less] I’m surprised they didn’t give her a tazer to use on me, though their assumption that I was a wife beater was just that…. a false assumption which they preferred.

    I assume it was much easier to not consider the people being loaded into the ‘showers’ as humans too. The same defense mechanism really. Though the police would have had to have been brain damaged to not figure out they were being used for criminal purposes (their role only to provide thug services and cause an ‘acute stress reaction’. Code where I live for ‘this one will need to be tortured to have them talk’)…… and I feel sure that they will receive the ‘treatment’ they deserve, and mental health services can assist in that regard. Enjoy your pension? lol, I think not, your going to need to be ‘assessed’ by a psychiatrist before exiting, and well, the same method used on me for wealth extraction would work on ex police too. Savings for the State, and wealth for psychiatrists……. major. Complaints? Not after the electricity there isn’t. And who’s going to believe a mental patient? Not the Minister “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”).

    I have never taken any of these drugs, and have no real ‘history’ with ANY of the psychiatric drugs (I may have had a prescription written for an anti depressant but does that prove that I have consumed it? Certainly the condition that I take them to obtain my release from the locked ward that day resulted in my agreement, and then throwing them out as soon as I got out)

    I don’t have a good knowledge of these drugs but what would an ‘expert’ think of the result of forcefully administering such a cocktail to a ‘cleanskin’? Was this going to make me ‘better’? Because I don’t know that combining that cocktail with the drugs they KNEW had already been administered covertly was a recipe for good mental health. And keep in mind this was due to me making a decision that my wife didn’t agree with, nothing at all to do with my capacity to make my own decisions. I would have been more concerned about her alcohol and drug (licit and illicit) consumption, and then running from the kitchen to the bedroom and attempting to plunge a carving knife into my heart as I lay on the couch.

    In fact, I can see why those in the know about these drugs call it a ‘snow job’. Still, the Senior Medical Officer who was conspiring with the Private Clinic psychologist was not to know that my refusal to hand over my wallet to the psychologist may have had a role in her releasing the slander from my medical records to him. He arranging to have me arbitraily detained and tortured thinking I was someones ‘patient’….. and my wife and the psychologist ensuring he didn’t call for the confidential information to the Private Clinic (hence the reason my wife returned home to ‘spike’ me and plant the knife for police to find). As my wife so eloquently put it “you just need to know what to tell them” (to have someone’s life fuking destroyed, and take everything they ever worked for… along with my daughter and grandchildren who are not even related to her by blood….. just a knee jerk reaction of the State. Destroy families as a ‘courtesy’, while the community stands and watches, afraid for their own safety from such a vicious bunch of filth)

    So yes, the slave would need to have a certain level of needs met. The ‘mental patient’ would simply be leeching the coffers by wasting money on such things as healthy food, or a bed which allowed for a decent nights sleep. I stand by the use of an ‘equation’ in this regard…… a large supply of ‘patients’ would mean the ability to ‘burn them out’ much quicker, though left with what the police could snatch from the streets (or as in my case, from my bed) might result in people not worth a lot in regards insurances or labour power. Though they do get them for free, whereas slaves actually cost the owner a capital outlay.

    hmmmmmmm where going to need a Euthanasia Act. The RICO type laws might result in action being taken if it doesn’t appear to be lawful (see the Josef Hartinger problem for Himmler). No problems when the State is enabling after the fact due process, and legal narrative “editing” while human rights lawyers look the other way. Unintended negative outcomes will reduce the likelihood of reputational damage to the State (though what about those who don’t have the stomach for it? Whistleblowers?)

    It pleases me no end to know that these people who did this are receiving the support of other criminals within the State system. That may seem strange and sure a lot more people are going to be harmed but….. eventually a good person will come along and take a look, not simply turn away. That’s the person ‘we’ are waiting for (not some Judas befriender who ‘lures with bait [yes I will help you], and then strikes with chaos [ensures the cover up which failed is corrected to destroy the victims, for a fee of course]’). And just like the priests that got away with raping 300 plus kids, the enablers will be identified too. Just pray it isn’t their families that become targets of the hospital FOI officer releasing their medical records to slander and push to suicide while we wait.

  • “If a person wants to challenge the ideas of others, they should expect that they may be challenged in the same manner. That’s how this community works.”

    Funny but that’s all I have ever wanted, ….. that is for someone to challenge my allegations regarding these documents I have. And it has just never happened. I assume that people simply make the assumption that anyone making such allegations must be fuking mad, or a dead man walking……. which is true in a sense.

    I mean, consider the absolute ‘panic’ about the release of 500 citizens medical records from the ‘hack’ into Medicare? This file called “Psycho” releasing the medical records of peoples psychiatric treatments. These records considered “particularly sensitive” and “potentially damaging” to these people….. and believe me, I can testify to the amount of damage which can be done with such information. especially when it has been “edited” to assassinate character, and to quote the “editor” ‘fuking destroy’ someone with a valid complaint.

    But……… what happened when my medical records were unlawfully released from a Private Clinic? What about the hospital arbitrarily detaining and torturing me based on that unlawful release?

    Okay, so I get legal representation, and they at least have a right to examine unredacted documents, to ensure that my human rights haven’t been violated. And the hospital doesn’t want them to obtain the documents in an unredacted form.

    Now the lawyers had asked for documents relating to my detention on a specific date…… 30 Sept 2011. What did they receive? Well, the information about me being falsely called an “Outpatient” (two criminal offences there) and the information about me being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and being subjected to a request for an “acute stress reaction” from police before being interrogated by the Community Nurse and ‘verballed’ was removed.

    Now what is it that they call “editing”? Keep in mind they are the people who claim these are sensitive documents and should be treated with ‘care’ (unlike their ‘clients’) Well, in my instance they went back through my file, and selected out some documents relating to some events which I found very traumatic in 1988……. which was 23 years before any documents requested by the Law Centre. And these documents contained my pain about being falsely accused of raping and murdering a young woman by Police. The man who committed these crimes caught some years later, though none of that information was provided by the hospital….. just a sort of slanderous ‘gossip’ presumably to turn my legal representatives against me…… and given their conduct, I can only assume this vicious character assassination worked.

    What do I mean “their conduct”? Well, not only did they not pursue the ‘unredacted’ documents which they had a right to examine on my behalf, but they actually assisted the hospital in attempting to retrieve the documents I had obtained, and which showed the offending between the Private Clinic psychologist, and the people who arranged to have me arbitrarily detained and tortured. Police obiviously seeing the advantage in having a ‘confidential informant’ who would arrange arbitrary detentions and torture from a Private Clinic which does legal medico reports for the Courts and defense attorneys. Sensitive records? Handed out as a result of a telephone call from a hospital to the Private Clinic psychologist? After they had violated the human rights of a citizen by arbitrarily detaining and torturing them to bring them into ‘custody’?

    I can see how such an ‘arrangement’ between the State and the Private Clinic my be mutually beneficial, though particularly damaging to their ‘paying clients’? And the Law Centre? Ensuring that the legal narrative fits the preferred narrative of the State, and then drafting a complaint and then forging the response from t he Chief Psychiatrist to throw their ‘clients’ under a bus? Nice, no wonder this Nation has such a good human rights record, they are telling the story they want told, not the truth.

    And you can see how this sort of “editing” poison works right? I share my pain publicly, and I hope to share the autopsy photos with y’all too…. that was the intent of the Operations Manager when she deliberately ‘fuking destroyed’ me and my family with her unlawful conduct (tehe, isn’t Boans going to be surprised when that little tidbit of information starts getting passed around, on top of us using his wife to gaslight him…… Much admiration for how vicious it actually was)…. with the support of the Police because of the ‘valuable resource’ they had managed to obtain in the Private Clinic….. where Federal offences were occurring by the State receiving confidential medical records they had no right to. Cover up, and ensure that the Commission and the Feds simply don’t get told about the ‘resource’ they have managed to obtain…. until of course I turn up with the documents…. and the “Carnival is Over” as the Seekers once sung.

    I wonder if they will be going back over my records and “editing” the 11 years of homelessness I have suffered as a result of these criminals. I know they have no intention of providing me with any ‘assistance’ other than a ‘hotshot’ in the E.D…… oh wait, that was just a means of getting the ‘hooks’ deep into the mouth of the Private Clinic psychologist. Naughty, naughty, you owe us one.

    What about the 11 years I haven’t seen my family because …….. well, because if we got together and talked, it would be an embarrassment for the State, my wife doing exactly what she was told by the criminal public officers who threatened her to keep her mouth shut about the ‘spiking’ and the release of my medical records from the Clinic. So no divorce lawyer now that they know I have the factual legal narrative, no access to any legal representation at all because the people with a responsibility to act, did nothing of the sort. Instead recognising the benefits to be gained from the crimes of the Private Clinic psychologist ………And she did of course play a part in the attempt to ….. well, that really was kind of ugly….. so she knows how easily the State can ‘let one slip through to the keeper’… and she might find herself being ‘assisted’ in the Emergency Dept.

    So no Steve, it’s not how this community works. There is an element of ‘looking the other way’ when the powers that be prefer the “edited” version of reality. When speaking the truth is better left unchallenged because examining the facts results in the “edited” legal narrative crumbling……… and it’s just easier to ‘sacrifice’ the victim, that hold the perpetrators to account.

    And that’s okay too. I have learned a lot about what it would have been like to have been on the receiving end of the ‘treatments’ of the National Socialist’s. But it really makes me want to vomit when I hear people talk about how they wouldn’t stand by while their ‘brother’ was tortured and killed for nothing more than speaking the truth. The State weighing up what my life is worth against the information they can obtain unlawfully from their new ‘resource’. And sure, I get it, i’m worth about the cost of $5 worth of morphine in an E.D. and a few photocopied and “edited” documents for the Coroner. The Judas’ who I have met who make agreements, knowing they have no intention of standing by those agreements, and will sell out their own for 15 pieces of silver.

    So, no, it’s not how this community works ……..always.

  • Interesting piece of footage coming out of a Juvenile detention Centre here.

    The ex Judge who ran the Children’s court has stated that there is a “perverse irony” about the footage. Had the parents of the child treated him in this manner, he would have been removed and placed into care, and they would be charged with assault occasioning bodily harm. But the response is to put him into ‘care’ to be repeatedly brutalised by ‘prison officers’ restraining him for attempting to kill himself because of the way he is having his human rights abused.

    There is truly something wrong when children are being treated in this manner. And I’m sad to say that the footage is on the ‘soft’ end of some of the treatment I have heard about from ‘reliable sources’. But, you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients right Minister?

  • I guess the same was true of slavery, that is, that the slave owners did not have a particular interest in harming their property, but simply extracting the maximum labour from them possible. In that regard, they used methods they believed worked best. What sort of parasite deliberately harms it’s host?

    “There are evil individuals among the frontline staff at psychiatric facilities.”

    This I know to be true. The viciousness of the attack on me and my family for attempting to complain about human rights abuses and criminal misconduct by public officers was a sight to behold. The confidence in the voice of the Operations manager when she stated she would “fuking destroy’ me and my family when I pointed out she had a mandatory duty to report the offending of her colleagues…… apparently not. She has a license beyond that given to James Bond to ‘deal’ with problems relating to reputational damage. Police providing material support in ensuring that the victims are returned to ‘mental health services’ rather than take the proof of their offending.

    The release of my confidential medical records in “edited” form (forge and utter, compound or conceal evidence of a criminal offence, attempt to pervert the course of justice, fail to report suspected misconduct….) done to deliberately push me to suicide…. though plausibly deniable….. and the refusal of the ‘authorities’ to examine the facts based on the benefit they are receiving from the offending of those very staff.

    I suppose allowing me the right to speak to my family (or a competent lawyer) would cause problems with the documented evidence available, being they were witnesses to this offending, and have been threatened to support the fraudulent legal narrative preferred by the State. Imagine the fact that the Law Centre has been working closely with the State to cover up human rights abuses (torture)? Finding out what evidence/proof their ‘clients’ have and then throwing them under a bus once Police have retrieved the documents? Forging and uttering with letters purporting to be from the Chief Psychiatrist. And do you think anyone would check because …….”they wouldn’t do that”….. glad someone did, thought all they have done is maintain the lies.

  • “The Covid-19 pandemic has helped me to break free from the bondage of an absurd misrepresentation of reality and face an injustice imposed upon me by an industry that uses the ICD coding system and the DSM as weapons to steal the voices of the young.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhKQinkxPak

    Day after day,
    they take some brain away
    then turn my face around
    to the far side of town
    and tell me that it’s real
    then ask me how I feel.

    What I find strange is that I am not shocked (no pun intended) by any of this having heard similar (and much worse) stories from my own State/Nation. What would shock me is if this report came out of Russia, or China. You know, those places that are sooooo bad that no light ever leaks out, and all we have are suspicions and rumours (called paranoid delusions without evidence)? Whereas, in Australia we can point to the likes of Dr Selwyn Leeks and his use of ECT machines on the testicles of boys in ‘care’ as being “evidence based”.

    I heard a Ukrainian man complaining about the use of electricity by Russian soldiers in a Police station. Telling the audience that after the third administration, he passed out. I have a video here of an aboriginal man who was given 15 administrations by our police, and the only reason it came to light was that pressure from the public meant the Corruption watchdog was forced into releasing the footage. (there’s a method of doing cover ups you would never have expected from the people charged with watching the watchers huh?)

    The charges he was convicted of were overturned because well, the video proved that “it never happened” (and was simply ‘verballed’ to bring charges and convict)…… I suppose they use the same method of concealment as the Operations Manager……. forging and uttering legal narratives to ‘fuking destroy’ anyone who tries to complain about State sanctioned torture. Such information not in the public interest, and therefore the crimes committed to protect the guilty completely justified….. and “edited” out of existence.

    What I also find strange is the way that parents I have spoken to who have lost a child to suicide as a possible result of the ‘treatment’ they were receiving, will actually refuse to accept facts, and double down and claim they just needed to get the ‘boots’ into them earlier. And without a genetic marker, how much earlier are they going to start these ‘treatments’? In utero? (Nirvana)

  • How much ya got?

    Because where I live refusing to pay for others to relieve what they think is your suffering (Especially when they are aware of the balance of your bank account. Your anasognosia means you lack insight into your suffering. You might think your mentally healthy but …….. that’s not a decision you get to make, so I found out) can result in some serious damage to your health and well being. Which will then require them to ‘treat’ you until your wallet is empty and insurance runs out.

    Once your wallet is empty, your complaining is the ‘illness’ and you are deemed beyond help.

  • “And some people actually believe we have a ‘medical mafia’ of sorts here in the USA, which I think is a reasonable comparison.”

    A doctor walks into a Police station and provides police with the murder weapon, the place the body has been disposed of, and a full and unconditional confession. What do you think happens?

    The doctor is told by the ‘medical mafia’ that she needs a “sophisticated knowledge of the law” (means, opportunity, but no motive). Police dig up the wrong body and find “insufficient evidence”. And the government passes Euthanasia Laws because of the problem of ‘joint enterprise’ (the equivalent of RICO laws in the U.S.).

    I note the similarity to the problem faced by Himmler when Josef Hartinger investigated the deaths of two Jews at Dachau. Bury the report, and pass laws allowing ‘citizens’ to be executed for their ‘potential’ for damage to the State?

    “Potential for violence, but no actual history or clear intent”………. Chemical restraint administered before questioning? Hovering between consciousness and unconsciousness is more likely to produce the desired answers (particularly combined with an ‘acute stress reaction’ ie a few swift kicks to the head…. and of course the loaded pistol), and provide confirmation of the ‘verballed’ statement guiding the interrogators (“refused to answer re substance abuse” [a beating with the chemical kosh may be required]).

    Tough to get good help these days.

    Amazing how they get lost in the acts of torture for the sake of torture. “tormentis cruciatibus causa” From the entrance of the Ariel Castro Memorial Hospital.

    Fortunately the public is not looking too hard at what is occurring ‘over the fence’, preferring instead the “edited” versions of events put forward by the ‘mafia’ (who will ‘fuking destroy’ you and your family if you dare try and complain)

  • “This is a population—and it’s weird to talk about the population as a population when I identify as being part of the population and my family—but it is a population in general that people are afraid of.” ……

    “For some reason, we view psychiatric care as if it’s a bunch of benevolent people. We seem to be able to be critical as a society of health care in general and then also other consumer goods like shoes and clothing and exploitation of the labor force and all that. But for some reason, with mental health care, it seems like if you even bring up this critique, it’s almost as though people get offended or it’s too much to process.”

    “Who knows why we were taught to fear witches, and not the people who burned them alive”

    “I was restrained immediately for asking a question in front of my mom. I thought they were trying to kill me at the time. When they injected me with the chemical restraint, I asked them, “What did you give me?” They didn’t answer me, and I thought for sure it was a lethal injection, so I thought I was dying when I was going to sleep.”

    The fact that you survived is not proof that they weren’t, though I understand from personal experience how you might have come to that conclusion. In my instance I was fortunate enough to have someone who “didn’t have the stomach for it” rudely interrupt proceedings. And what better way to hide your misconduct that to make the resistance’ justification for the little ‘accident’ which is about to occur?

    And imagine being able to make the truth a paranoid delusion? Simply remove the documents showing the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs and what was a crime becomes a symptom of a mental illness? All works well as long as you can control the legal narrative via “editing”, though problems arise when it isn’t known “who else has the documents” (and is thus aware of the facts rather than the fraud)

    It’s also a wonderful (elegant?) means of gaining access to information which might be withheld by individuals. Create the false belief that you are about to provide them treatment under the Voluntary Assisted Dying legislation, and then put the questions you (or Police) would like answered to them.

    Having nothing to ‘confess’ in such situations (ie where Police do a mock execution on you) is possibly the most psychologically damaging. Though in my instance it was more about coercing me into silence, and causing further “acute stress reactions” to enable me to be slandered with the mental health labels they had forged and uttered with.

    I sit and ponder the difference between the State gathering information from criminals (‘confidential informants’) and actually using them to create situations where human rights can be abused (arbitrary detentions and torture), and the active commission of offences for the benefit of the State (for example the unlawful release of confidential medical records from a Private Clinic in breach of the Federal Privacy Act being concealed by the State Police, and the victims being ‘fuking destroyed’ to ensure that the offending can continue? Or the ‘unintended negative outcomes’ in the E.D.? “It might be best I don’t know about that” says Senior Constable. If you don’t look, it never happened.)

    Is there a difference? Or do the ends justify the means? For example the Law Centre forging a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist once they had checked if their ‘client’ still had the documents proving the human rights abuses/crimes? Backstabbing Judas’s that they are…….. care to read the letters? Pretend to be Good Samarians and steal the shoes of the victims once others have kicked them half to death. You can’t really blame them, someone has to pay for the Audi 4 wheel drives.

  • Australian government scrambling to ensure that the medical records of millions of Australians being released on the ‘dark web’ (whatever that is) does not fall into the hands of ‘capitalists’.

    It’s kind of strange for me to watch as they make all these claims about the “scumbags” committing this “dog act”.

    In my instance the resources allocated to provide material assistance to the “scumbags” came from the people who had a duty to investigate the breach, who refused to take the ‘evidence’ while the criminals sorted out their little problem with an ‘unintended negative outcome’.

    If the reaction to these peoples medical records being released is anything to go by, I might have misunderstood the motive for the State and their ‘confidential informant’ (leaking information from a Private Clinic to the State unlawfully) who arranged to have me ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, arbitrarily detained and tortured. The value of the ‘resource’ providing confidential medical records from inside the Clinic possible worth the loss of human life to protect. And the State then “editing” documents with the claim they need to protect their ‘informants’?

    Two years of feeding information unlawfully from the Clinic to others, and then I turn up with the proof of the ‘leak’? “Who else has got the documents?” indeed. Wooops, sorry to spoil the unlawful fun of the State …… and I understand why you turned a blind eye to the attempt to ……. Yeah, it’s great that those who refuse to examine the facts/truth are prepared with their knee jerk justification of “they wouldn’t do that”.

    Oh well, there’s going to be a lot of harm and damage to a lot of people as a result of this ‘hack’ of personal medical records. many folk not even aware that doctors have been using psychiatric billing codes to claim insurance without informing their ‘patients’ (for their own protection of course)?

    I am reminded of the comments of Lt Lockhart in Full Metal Jacket after the Tet Offensive. “It’s one giant shit sandwich, and we’re all going to have to take a bite”.

    All of a sudden I don’t feel so alone. My ‘warning’ silenced by corrupt public officers, now truns into a tsunami of victims? Whilst it was the State (Public Officers) who deliberately slandered and fuking destroyed my life, I don’t suppose it really matters who actually does it. And the hypocrisy of those now claiming it was a “dog act” who turned a blind eye when it was my medical records being used as a weapon?

    I assume the data will not be published by the media, and will no doubt be like the information gathered for Covid tracing (and then unlawfully accessed by police with a ‘sorry’ after the breach?). This will make it all the more valuable to those who do have exclusive access?

  • “many businesses profited mightily from the Third Reich”

    In fact, the profits were extracted from the free labour provided by the laws passed by the National Socilaists. The ‘extraction’ was done with models which would no doubt have fitted very well with what Marx described in Capital, a fairly basic economic model. Little outlay, and dispose of those whose economic viability was no longer deemed of any use (as assessed by psychiatrists).

    I’ve been examining the use of ‘mental health’ with regards the way the State managed to ‘dispose’ of me from my duties when it looked like I might become a whistleblower. The ‘training’ (from psychiatrists) being received by lawyers in how to use ‘mental health services’ to minimise the cost of disposal of ‘human resources’ telling. What better way to “lure with bait (payout) then strike with chaos” (subjected to forced ‘treatments to remove the money provided to lure into the ‘trap’). The “elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'”, with lawyers and psychiatrists boasting about their methods, and the ‘victims’ ending up under the ‘guillotine’. No avenue for complaint once you have been slandered by mental health services, and your documents and legal narrative “edited”.

    What would one expect when morals and ethics go out the door? We have a fine example in the ‘history’ of the fascists.

    I can only see an increase on this disgraceful method of dealing with workplace conflicts (that is, use mental health services as a mechanism for abusing the workers), especially given the fear of Unions to stand up for their ‘members’, and instead trying to have them resign to throw them under a bus. Unions? Not worth the money they are being paid for memberships. They are like your rights which don’t exist, as soon as you need them, they disappear.

  • I was just watching a video of a young man being stopped by police in the U.S. He seemed to have a complaint about the police pointing a loaded weapon at his head to have him comply with their request. Are Police in the U.S. not allowed to use coercive methods to have their questions answered?

    Funny, but mental health actually make requests for this service when they think someone might refuse to speak to them (coded as a request for an ‘acute stress reaction’). mainly because of their reputation as filthy ‘verballing’ pigs. Put a gun to their head and they tend to talk. And interesting that they simply tell Police that the citizen is their “Outpatient” to remove the right to due process, and subvert the protections offered the community by the law.

    Combine that with the ability to incapacitate the target by ‘spiking’ them with date rape drugs (later to be made into their “regular medications” by the Senior Medical Officer authorising the arbitrary detentions and torture sessions, and thus any complaints become a paranoid delusion treated with electricity against your will) and plant a knife to justify the use of a weapon……..

    No wonder they needed to “edit” the documents and conceal the ‘confidential informants’ setting these situations up for them. And they wonder why the amount of people committing suicide from their ‘treatments’ is increasing?

    Goes to show what they think of people who subvert the law and find means of torturing citizens with Police….give them an Order of Australia medal. The ‘collateral damage’ can be concealed with “editing” and slander.

  • Quite clever really when I think about it. Corrupt ‘arrangements’ between the State and a Private Clinic psychologist (with a Masters degree) to release confidential medical records from a Clinic which does reports for defense attorneys and the Courts, and enable her to arrange arbitrary detentions and torture sessions so that the State gets access to information otherwise unavailable…….. see for example Lawyer X/Nicola Gobbo situation.

    Make your criminal associate into a State confidential informant and kill anyone who threatens to expose the ‘arrangement’, “edit” the documents, and ensure that legal representation is denied (Have the Principle of the Mental Health Law Centre forge a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist). Police will provide assistance in that regard, though prefer to remain ‘invisible’…. so arrange your own ‘referral’. No wonder they needed to find out “Who else has the documents” and needed to steal my laptop and ‘turn’ the Judas that took the documents from me.

    Value a rule of law? I think not. Though fortunate for them the slander they have smeared me with (and the deliberate fucking destruction of my life by the State) means that no one is prepared to even examine the facts…. as opposed to the “edited” version. Oh well, your next.

    Frantz Fanon, Wretched of the Earth. Colonial War and Mental Disorders Series C Category 1 “after so-called preventative tortures of an indiscriminate nature”.

    And what was this all about? My wife thought I should speak to someone about my decision to leave her. And a clinic psychologist who despised me for my political beliefs (her husband being a Shock Doc, and me refusing to hand over my wallet for ‘treatments’ until the money ran out). Still, quite a valuable couple of ‘resources’ picked up by my wifes Prof. friend in the E.D…… and he got two years of ‘use’ out of them until Police found out I still had the documents…… then they had to run….. and ignore the facts because well, people think they are getting fair trials lmao

    “They will take their oaths as a cover” 58:16

  • “they do TMS – on an experimental basis.”

    On people who lack the ability to give informed consent? Dementia patients? I assume you know how the ‘trap’ works? (ie if you don’t give your consent, we will remove that ‘right’ and give it to someone who will. See my wife being given my rights to not be tortured and kidnapped, when it didn’t suit them for me to exercise those rights, or my right to make a complaint, or my right to a heart beat when that was failing them….. “who else has got the documents?”)

    I put the word ‘right’ in quote marks because as you would be aware, there are no ‘rights’ in Australia (see George Carlin “You Have No Rights”). With the flick of a switch you can be made into an “Outpatient” by the State thus then justifying what would otherwise be considered acts of torture (and other such distasteful acts that few have the stomach for). Legal narrative is “edited”, the victim slandered and the right to effective legal representation denied because …… It really is that simple.

    Value a Rule of Law? Not when they have their hooks into a big fish, the protected species handbook goes overboard, and we will delete the photos of the catch. “Who else has got the photos?” The Fisheries Dept isn’t meant to be hauling illegal catches onboard for those breaking the rules…… that can’t look good.

  • Interesting that they went to people who have about as much chance of predicting suicide as the local windscreen cleaner at the traffic lights.

    I guess putting yourself forward as an ‘expert’ and not mentioning your past failures makes it look like what your saying about the subject is valid.

    When psychiatrists get better than the average Jo at predicting suicide, maybe then we should listen? At present, they are a flip of a coin in that regard.

  • Hi James, I assume this message will reach you.

    There was one of those advertisments presented as a news item on our 6pm regular news regarding a call for ‘research subjects’. The experiment is to subject people with memory loss due to dementia to TMS treatments, with the claim that it restores and prevents against memory loss.

    Having seen this sort of ‘advertsing’ before ( Nurse on the front page of the newspapers claims ECT is miracle cure for depression….. so lets make it available for teenagers), I thought of your article.

    The ‘experiment’ seems to be a case of if there are improvements in people with dementia, then the success will be attributes to the treatment. And if there is significant damage to anyone, that will no doubt be attributed to pre-existing condition.

    I note there was no ‘warning’ about the possibility of harm, and the ‘journalism’ as I have said is basically advertising for the TMS company.

    So expect some claims of a ‘miracle cure’ for dementia and memory loss coming out of this ‘research’. I guess the stuff with ‘depressed teens’ didn’t work out so well, so the snake oil is being taken to another town.

  • “But it sure would help NOT to have them around trying to make it worse by creating pretend “solutions” based on a complete misunderstanding (often an intentional one) of what a human being and a mind actually might be.”

    “Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don’t mean to do harm. But the harm does not interest them” T.S. Eliot.

    re the shift to ‘mental health’. It seems to have gone from something you don’t want (mental illness) to something you do (mental health). Like the Scandinavian story about Lutfisk…… sold as rotten fish to the Finns, who then tell the Swedes that it tastes good and sell it back to them for a profit. They’re still eating that crap and simply don’t want to admit they were conned lol

  • “When someone struggling with suicide reaches out and is met out of the blue with police at their door, handcuffing them and taking them to a hospital where their possessions are stripped from them and their dignity is thrown away—why on Earth would they ever trust this system again? Why would they encourage anyone else to use it?”

    Good questions. Though I think my wife would be best positioned to answer those questions. Having been given the status of ‘confidential informant’ as the person who ‘swatted’ me by ‘spiking’ my drink with date rape drugs and planting a knife for police to find once I collapsed (thus making it easy to deal with the ‘target’….. oh wait, there’s nothing actually wrong with this guy, and he isn’t actually anyone’s ‘patient’ [though we knew that hence the need to create the appearance of a police referral to enable arbitrary detentions]….. best we “fucking destroy” him because otherwise someone might listen to his complaint).

    The co conspirators at the hospital well positioned to “edit” the legal narrative to protect the people who unlawfully released the slanderous label from the Private Clinic. I find myself pondering the future of the 4 million people whose confidential medical records have been released by a ‘hack’ of the Medicare system. Aren’t they going to be surprised when the slander hits the airways, and the police are dragging them out of their beds for ‘treatments’ (what family? what property? your a mental patient and therefore have no rights to access a lawyer. Our ‘confidential informant’/ your invisible guardian [the hacker] would need to provide their consent).

    So if I were to answer for someone who is exercising their right to silence as a ‘confidential informant’, I would say that I would use the system again because it is a highly effective weapon with which to “fucking destroy” someone, and given the results of the financial benefits of keeping all of the property someone else had worked for their whole lives with assistance from Police and the State for the price of a couple of phone calls, I would encourage my friends to use this system.

    The words used by my wife after speaking with a psychologist (for $200), and asked how on earth she had managed to have police snatch me out of my bed after drugging me without my knowledge…… “You just need to know what to tell them”….. and make a few ‘arrangements’ for when they arrive.

    ‘Spiked’ with date rape drugs….. to be made into their “regular medications” (with a forged prescription) by a doctor once the ‘target’ is contained in the locked ward.

    Procure Police by telling them the target is an “Outpatient” to cause an ‘acute stress reaction’ which allows the Community Nurse to describe the resulting behaviours as symptoms of an illness. Procuring the apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a mental illness…. penalty 3 years prison. Easily proved, but police won’t take the documented proof….. and therefore “insufficient evidence”. How easy is that to abuse?

    Police can then be used to transport the target to the hospital where staff will assume the victim of the offending is a Police referral, and the victim can be handed over to the doctor making ‘arrangements’ with the documentation’ to conceal the human rights abuses (torture) and the criminal aspects of the arbitrary detention.

    Reward? I lose everything I ever worked for (including my family) and my wife is off on a “relaxing break” to the wineries in the South of the State with her ‘new man’.

    Go to the police with the documented proof of the offending? They now have you ‘flagged’ for an automatic referral to mental health so they can ‘treat’ you for speaking the truth……. Police preferring you didn’t have the documents proving the crimes, and thus refusing to take them into evidence while the hospital sorts out their little problem with ‘treatments’ for the ‘illness’ they said you didn’t have.

    Since when did criminals who set people up deserve the status of ‘confidential informants’? When they are releasing the confidential medical records from a Private Clinic which does reports for defense attorneys and the courts?

    So I’ll never trust them again, and never recommend anyone using their ‘services’…… but as with most narratives, there are two sides to every story…. and in this instance the “edited” one is the preferred story…. that is that rather than not being an “Outpatient” and being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs to enable acts of torture, I was a ‘patient’ of the Ariel Castro Memorial Hospital for more than 10 years (“edited”), and the drugs used to ‘spike’ me with (stupefying with intent to commit an indictable offence…. 20 years) became my “regular medications” via a forged prescription from one of the conspirators (the Senior Medical Officer waiting for me to be delivered by Police as part of the plot to kidnap. He then authorising a ‘chemical restraint’ which I am told by a neurologist would have made me “very sick”…. and possibly incapable of making a complaint about his criminal conduct and human rights abuses).

    And you just need to know what to tell them……. and ‘they’ will then conceal the methods with assistance from your ‘legal representatives’. Not like your going to be worth much to the community once they have snatched you from your bed an tortured you……. but the people arranging these ‘referrals’ are. So just ‘keep on kickin’, eventually the head will split and the unintended negative outcome can be concealed with after the fact due process document “editing”

    What really struck me was how aware the staff of the hospital were of the way they are used as a human garbage disposal unit….. as long as you ‘know what you need to tell them’. And a simple knee jerk reaction on their part destroys another persons life unnecessarily (along with my family loosing their father/grandfather). Plenty more where that one came from…. next.

  • “Because slavery wasn’t supported by enslaved people. Some people with psychiatric disorders support psychiatry.”

    Who asked about the thoughts of enslaved people? Like ‘mental patients’, their Masters spoke for them.

    “None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depths of their minds by Masters who rule them with lies. They feed them on falsehoods till wrong looks like right in their eyes” Goethe.

    ‘You have a chemical imbalance in your brain, and this drug works like insulin for diabetes’

  • “I seriously think we need to get far away from that term (“mental illness”), as it’s been claimed completely by the DSM propagandists, and doesn’t really describe the situation in terms that the average person can wrap their heads around.”

    So what about the term “mental health”? I can give hundreds of examples of people who, trying to deal with the stigma they are experiencing with their diagnoses, are now suffering from “mental health”. I assume they mean mental health issues when they write such statements, but it also reeks of a one for one transplant. That is, using another term deals with the destruction of their ‘normal identity’.

  • So basically this article points out the way ‘mental health’ nurses are trained in the corrupt practice of ‘verballing’? Our police are usually sent for “Creative Writing’ courses until they get the hang of being vague and creating suspicion via the use of their ‘sworn statements’. Though I also note this article doesn’t describe the way that others then pick up on the forged documentation produced using this practice and then utter with those documents.

    “Verballing is the false attribution of a confession or admission to a suspect. On the evidence before the Royal Commission, the practice of verballing ranged in degree between the fabrication of an entire record of interview or statement, in which a full confession is made, to a subtle change of words to cast greater suspicion on a suspect. Ultimately, if the verbal were contested in court, the police officer involved might commit perjury in support of the false statement.”

    [mental health have no such need, and simply ‘kosh’ the complainant for the ‘illness’. With no avenue for complaint, and the State denying access to legal representation, the system lends itself to much worse abuses that the courts]

    “Some witnesses before the Royal Commission admitted verballing, and said that the practice was commonly used, even encouraged, within the CIB. Others denied having verballed a suspect and denied having seen it done by other officers.”

    [immunity being the key to whether officers admitted ‘verballing’ or not. Quite prepared to perjure themselves to a Commission, which proved the point made by the Commissioner regarding the concealment of the corrupt practice. Those who did were no doubt ‘flagged’ as corrupt]

    “It was explained to the Royal Commission that an officer might verbal a suspect whom he believed was guilty in order to secure a conviction and that, on other occasions, an officer might verbal a suspect in order to disguise a breach of policing procedures or a failure to take adequate notes of a conversation.”

    “The practice of verballing has some serious implications for the administration of justice. An accused may be convicted wholly or in part on the basis of fabricated evidence, bypassing the checks and balances of the law designed to ensure that each accused has a fair trial.”

    Police have a history of using the practice to subvert human rights and enable wrongful convictions. And the consequences of the use of this corrupt practice for victims of psychiatric abuse can be fatal, and have been on many occasions (“edited” for convenience after the fact, with the victims being used to justify increases in budgets for more abuses). ‘Legal representatives’ coerced to ensure they are not ‘over zealous’ when it comes to providing assistance to victims of human rights abuses, and in my instance happy to forge a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist based on the fraudulent set of documents they were provided by the State (not that anyone would dare look, and if they have their silence and ‘Judas behaviour’ speaks volumes. Such little value placed on human life by the State with those who do ‘have the stomach for it’ receiving financial and career gains. And as ‘confidential informant’ for the State you will receive protections not afforded those who you are committing offences against…… reality will be “edited” to suit the after the fact preferred truth)

    The use of the practice in mental health services in my State is rampant. Our Chief Psychiatrist even encouraging the practice, uttering with, and refusing to even examine documents known to have been forged with this method. ‘The grounds noted on the statutory declaration are considered to be reasonable grounds’. It would seem a bit silly to forge ‘evidence’ of a ‘mental illness’ using the practice and NOT meet the standard set by the law, which is then denied by the Chief Psychiatrist to ensure that he doesn’t need to look any further that the forged document? (“suspect on reasonable grounds that the person be made an involuntary patient” [with criteria set out in the law] becomes “the mental health practitioner need only ‘suspect’ on grounds they believe to be reasonable that the person requires examination by a psychiatrist”….. arbitrary detentions enabled by the person charged with the protection of the community from human rights abuses? Well done to the fascists in creating an environment where the law is totally subverted, and all they need do is fabricate ‘evidence’ and then “edit” the documents to utter with.)

    I have no doubt that the “serious implications for the administration of justice” is doubled by the ability of police to use mental health facilities as centers for excellence in torture technologies. Police referrals based on ‘verbals’ to ‘verballing’ mental health workers resulting in the questions requiring answers being extracted with the ‘chemical kosh’ and electricity, and making a mockery of human rights and legal protections for the community.

    Still, when I think about it, we are going to need the ability to abuse human rights with where the world is heading. Once the fog of war descends, the only rule is that there are no rules.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XrYoNbO-78

  • There’s been a ‘debate’ of sorts going on in Australia which kind of highlights what your saying Steve.

    The Australian netball team has stood by an indigenous players desire to not wear a uniform carrying the name of a billionaire mining magnate who once said of the aboriginal population;

    “Herd the worst of the Aborigines into one area, and put a chemical in their water that sent them sterile,” he said.

    “In time there’d be none of them left. Well that solution has been put forward by none other than one of the Premier’s closest friends, Australian mining magnate…..”

    The defense of the decision for his daughter to take back her $15 million ‘reputational laundering’ money (called sponsorship by the media) bringing a lot of the closet racists out into the open.

    What has really fascinated me is that a lot of them claim ‘it was 40 years ago he said that’. Yes, and it was 6 years ago the State government tried to pass laws which would have allowed the worst of the aboriginals to be rounded up and sterilized without parental consent……. This after an epidemiologist identified a potential for a large bill for the damaged people resulting from these people breeding. And you can bet your life the Mining companies weren’t going to wear the cost…… socialise risk and cost, privatise wealth and profit style.

    Pure coincidence that the billionaire is still a ‘close friend’ of the Premier, and that her fathers ideas still seem to hold some sway with the government (though couched in medical terminology rather than outright stating that the people concerned were aboriginal).

    Much kudos to the Scientologists and the international community for stepping in where the laws were a foregone conclusion, both sides of the House supporting them …. until they realised others were not so impressed with what ‘they’ were planning on doing.

    Of course none of this is recognised in the ‘debate’, and only the ‘it was in the past’ and ‘it’s her money’ defense seems to get any airtime.

    So it seems that rational argument on the part of the indigenous player costing Netball Australia $15 million needs to be silenced with “shame , punishment and shunning”.

    And I thought this place would get better with time. And then I was woken by Police and Mental Health Services who were doing the bidding of criminals they call ‘confidential informants’ in order to conceal their ‘elegant methods of overcoming resistance’ (Fanon)

  • Magdalene then asks, “Isn’t this ‘therapy culture’ an inherently neoliberal capitalist practice, itself?”

    I don’t think that there are too many medical professions where the refusal to attend ‘therapy’ can result in you being drugged without your knowledge, have a knife planted on you for police to find and justify your delivery to a cage where you are assaulted and force drugged with brain damaging chemicals to ‘restrain’ you, and deny any right to complain. Where your confidential medical records are handed around like a T.V. guide and used as a weapon to “fucking destroy” you should you try and exercise your human rights, or access to the protection of the law (Australians value a rule of law? What an absolute joke that is)

    My dentist likes me to come see him and show him ‘Aladdin’s Cave’ (what he calls my mouth) every 6 months, but I don’t get snatched from my bed by police should I fail to make an appointment.

    Neoliberal? Capitalist? I think the model fits so much better with what Il Duce called Fascism.

    Your 6 monthly dental check has been missed. Were here to ensure your smile isn’t suffering as a result. No worries about us kicking your teeth out, we can put them back later.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

  • Thanks for the reply Louisa.

    “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” Jiddu Krishnamurti

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8E5TSl_V0

    “I don’t want no peace, I need equal rights and justice” Peter Tosh

    “We need to learn about ourselves and why we feel we need substances to get through life.”

    I think that history shows that some people are very aware of the effects of ‘recreational drugs’ and have used them as a means to overcome problems associated with war etc (what is called “the moment of truth” by Drill Sergeant Hartman in Full Metal Jacket).

    The Hashishans, the Vikings using mushrooms before raids, opium in Vietnam, and of course the use of ‘prescription medications’ by Islamic State fighters is well documented (not so much veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan…. yet)…. the list goes on.

    We might not like this fact, but ……..

  • There has been a confirmed ‘hack’ of our Medicare system, with the confidential medical records of about 4 million clients being compromised.

    The Minister has called the threat to release these medical records a “dog act”, though I wonder if, given the way the COVID tracking data was used by police despite assurances that it would be used for no other purpose than COVID tracking, if the government is not actually pleased about obtaining access to such stolen data. They never really meant it when they said it wouldn’t be used for any other purpose right? having the ability to track every citizen in the State? It’s a fascists dream come true.

    I know in my situation the person who stole my confidential medical records from a Private Clinic and provided that information unlawfully to the State, was treated as a ‘confidential informant’, and was provided with significant State resources to ensure their criminal release of my information was concealed (even going as far as having legal representatives forge and utter with a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist)

    I find myself not feeling so alone knowing that there are many of those 4 million ‘victims’ whose psychiatric billing codes are about to be released to the public. Whilst it is sad that their characters are about to be “fucking destroyed” (this is the term used by the Operations Manager when releasing more of my medical records in an “edited” form to slander me for daring to complain about their conspiring to pervert and criminality), surely it may bring about some discussion about how ‘stigma’ works?

    That and the fact that the criminal release of medical records from a Private Clinic because you have gone to the trouble of ‘spiking’ someone with date rape drugs and planting items for police to find (thus the claim being that the release was lawful. The victim unable to provide consent to the release of the records due to the effects of the offences. Shame I’m the only one who can see a problem here, and the means used to ‘protect’ their ‘confidential informant’ is absolutely disgraceful).

    In fact, as the ‘hacker’ has provided some of the medical records of some high profile individuals as proof they have them, surely they now become a ‘confidential informant’ for the government and any complaints about their criminality would require cover up?

    The one significant difference I note between my situation, and those who now find themselves in a position where their records have been compromised (other than the fact my records were ACTUALLY released) is that in my situation the clients of the Private Clinic were not given the opportunity to protect themselves from the breach. At least when Citizen A finds his diagnosis published on his workplace bulletin board (and Facebook) they can be ready with a response (though let me tell you the loss of credibility when such slander is used as a weapon against you is much much worse than you could begin to imagine)

    I imagine that the suicides which will possibly result form such releases can be attributed to the ‘chemical imbalances’ of the victims rather than the slander and character assassination? What’s good for the goose huh? Here’s a slander narrative we prepared earlier.

    Having such ‘confidential informants’ (the hacker) providing such information to the State isn’t such a bad thing after all? And the government will provide significant resources to ensure the protection of their sources, seeing anyone who has proof of who the informant is as a threat to their security and reputation.

    I suppose I was easily “fucking destroyed” (and my legal narrative “edited” post hoc), whereas 4 million ‘victims’ might not be so easily silenced?

    “The ammunition’s been passed, and the Lords been praised, but the wars on the television will never be explained…… all the Bankers getting sweaty beneath their white collars, as the Pound in our pockets turns into a Dollar”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPSO8pdAX6c

  • “the APA was coming to terms with their involvement in developing torture procedures for Guantanamo Bay.”

    And how did that work out? I know the consequences are still being felt here in Australia, with the arbitrary detentions and ‘acute stress reactions’ being caused by police to have ‘mental patient’s’ comply with their ‘treatments’ The Chief Psychiatrist claiming that the “observed behaviours” are all that matter regarding the need for treatments…… hence the cause of the man in the videos distress matters naught, only that he needs ‘treatments’. It’s just a matter of not looking until he has been prepared for referral…. as was the case in my situation (and also I note, in Abu Ghraib). Plant a knife on me after ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs, and then have police cause an ‘acute stress reaction’ before interrogation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=11s

    The “concerning aspects” of this detention for me are that the request from hospital staff for such ‘roughing up’ by police of ‘patients’ doesn’t even enter the narrative here.

    And keep in mind that the ability to ‘spike’ people with date rape drugs before causing these acute stress reactions is possible due to the ‘after the fact due process’. Doctor simply writes a prescription for the drugs and the matters go from being a crime (stupefying with intent to commit an indictable offence ….. 20 years prison) to being the “outpatients” “Regular Medications” (given that citizens in Australia are either “inpatients” or “outpatients” according to our Chief Psychiatrist, thus enabling anyone to be snatched from their beds at any time by police on a request from a Community Nurse under the powers of the Mental Health Act. And they reckon people in China have got it tough?)

    I note that one of our Federal Ministers described the threat to release the confidential medical records of customers with Medibank a “dog act”. And yet when my medical records were released from a Private Clinic (which does legal medico reports for the Courts and defense attorneys) after I was incapacitated with date rape drugs and arbitrarily detained and tortured, the State did nothing more than “edit” the documents to conceal the offending for the perpetrators, and arrange to have an unintended negative outcome with the person complaining.

    Such powers in the hands of psychologists with Masters degrees seems a little risky, especially when they are compromising the court system by acting as a ‘confidential informant’ to the State in matters where they gain an advantage by obtaining access to legally privileged information.

    Still, I note there is nothing that can’t be resolved when the State can “edit” legal narratives and deny access to legal representation. The release of my confidential medical records to assassinate my character highly effective, and when the Minister is prepared to utter with known fraudulent documents and threaten you and your family with ‘treatments’ for complaining about such criminality………. i’m sure they have their reasons (the conflict of interest seems to be the dominant reason)

    “In addition, it justified having their rights restricted—they suffered inhumane treatment. Over time they became reformers of the field and became aware of the UN’s Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.”

    Extremely dangerous to go to the Chief Psychiatrist and explain that he doesn’t understand the protections afforded the community by the law when he has rewritten the law to remove said protections. Once the documents have been “edited” and he has responded to the offending based on the fraudulent set…. best you don’t turn up with the real set. It causes all sorts of problems. The Convention against the use of Torture? Simple, “edit” the documents and make the person an “Outpatient” and your free to do whatever you like…. any complaints, ‘negatively outcome’ them. Unintentionally of course.

    Trying to access the right of complaint under Article 13 of the Convention against the use of Torture is responded to with threats of ‘treatment’ (beatings, electricity, incarceration and loss of family described by Amnesty as being human rights abuses if done in Iran, but called ‘medical care’ if done in Australia) by the Minister for Health. The Attorney General passing the buck on the matter to someone with the power to have the matter dealt with in a way beneficial to the State (ie mental health snow jobs)

    I’m not an expert (and therefore assume not worthy of a response) but all this talk about human rights is dangerous to people having their heads kicked in to get them the ‘treatment’ they require. What good were rights to Japanese/Americans in 1940? What good is it when the State (via the Chief Psychiatrist who’s duty it is to enforce those rights) simply denies they exists while they hold you down and inject you with enough anti psychotics to lay an elephant out for a week for complaining? (“He was breathing threats of litigation”…….’chemical kosh’ please)

    See also Jim Gottstein’s article re ‘Why you shouldn’t talk to a therapist’. Or possibly even more appropriate in Australia the “elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'” described by Frantz Fanon in his book Wretched of the Earth (regarding mental health services in French Algeria).

  • Hi Birdsong,

    I get the feeling the author (Irving Welsh of Trainspotting fame) may have written this after coming into contact with ‘mental health services’. I’m glad they didn’t manage to crush his creativity, because his books are very entertaining.

    And your right about a difference between God and ‘these’ people. I think of it in terms of Eric Bernes Games People Play…… they use their position to manipulate the roles from Adult to Adult and make it God to ‘insignificant insect’ (to quote Nietzsche). Those who resist walking into the ‘trap’ may require the use of force provided by the State.

    I know there are a lot of people who think they have found a loophole to the Commandments “Thou shalt not kill” …… (except where the provisions of the ‘Voluntary’ Assisted Dying Act have been met….. and if they haven’t “edit” the documents so they have post hoc). And is it not the case that the State has also provided the Mental Health Act a a means of a loophole of the Commandment of “Thou shalt have no gods before me”…. except where the Mental Health Act provide the powers of a god….. and the documentation can be “edited” after the fact?

    I watch from my position of pain and suffering caused by the negligence of those with a duty to act, and strangely I have not the slightest bit of envy for the money and power they wallow in. The recent PhD analysis of the large amounts of money being effectively stolen from the taxpayer via Medicare (a figure of $8 billion suggested, and a quick look at the property portfolios of those allegedly ‘on the take’ seems to suggest this is an underestimate, lest the author be subjected to forced ‘treatments’ for that illness of speaking the truth)….. but why would you be concerned about being held to account when there is no mechanism to do so other than the corrupted court system?

    The snouts are well and truly in the Medicare trough, and who would dare try and do anything about it? It would be political suicide (as well as being justification for a mental health referral by police)

    I know I have one thing these people don’t seem to have……… enough. Being prepared to commit acts of fraud and deliberately harm people for money might be frowned upon by those who ‘don’t have the stomach for it’. But they aren’t doing a lot about those who do when they come across them in the middle of ‘volunteering’ someone for ‘assistance’ with a non existent ‘medical condition’ …… other than “editing” the documents and denying access to effective legal representation (even Moses had his brother Arun to speak for him).

    I find myself wondering about the push by social workers and psychologists to obtain more powers (the increasing number of deaths never considered to be being caused by their industries)…….do they simply want to be alongside psychiatrists in their god like positions? Or are they humbly seeking to provide ‘help’ to those who they deem as desperately needing it….. and who at present they need to find ways of torturing and arbitrarily detaining to provide that assistance? With a Chief Psychiatrist who needs to neglect his duty to enable? It must be terrible to have such ‘healing hands’ holding a baseball bat to ‘chemically kosh’ those you wish to ‘help’.

    Boans wanders off considering the apostles as being the ‘restraining team’ for Jesus who forced his treatments on to the community? “Alms for a ex leper” Life of Brian style lol. I don’t know that was how it went down.

  • “It’s a lot like a religious debate on the existence of God.”

    Except that one doesn’t get to debate the existence of God with God. Imagine how He would feel with someone gaslighting Him about His very existence?

    Some really harsh language in this clip, but i think it gets the message across very well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn1DXyHSWsg&t=186s

    “the c&*^ Nietzche was wide eh the mark when he said I was deed……… I’m not deed, I just denne give a f*&^” lol

    And the ending is about the same as questioning a ‘mental health professional’ about their omnipotence? That is, they exercise their Godly powers and laugh.

  • I was struck by a quote I read last week regarding society, and wondered about the way it might be applied to particular industries in a canary in a coalmine manner.

    “A society [industry?] becomes totalitarian when it’s structure becomes flagrantly artificial; that is, when it’s ruling class has lost it’s function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud” (Blair).

    It seems to me that the collusion between the ‘ruling class’ of this industry , and those with a duty to enforce the laws to protect the public they are abusing is precisely where the ‘flagrantly artificial’ structure exists, and where the loss of function is most visible. They (the ‘ruling classes’) have no duty to the community anymore, and only serve the interests of their own pockets. Flagrantly.

    And what are you going to do about it when they have the use of force and the fraud of ‘mental health services’ to protect them?

    To quote another great thinker……. “it’s time for cake and sodomy” (Marilyn Manson)

  • “I believe the supplier spiked Julian’s marijuana with crystal meth, although he refused to acknowledge that this could happen.”

    And acknowledgement of such a possibility may have been interpreted as being a paranoid delusion. Something I found out when my documents showing I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs were “edited” by the State to remove the fact, and then slander me as insane.

    Your point is valid, and it was known in my State that there were people who were taking ‘low grade’ marijuana and spraying it with a particular brand of fly spray to increase the effect for those who consumed it. I have little doubt that there are other ‘additives’ which have been used as well.

    My State hasn’t got to the point of having dispensaries where the quality of such products can be regulated, instead using proceeds of crime legislation to remove the property of anyone caught with more than 2 ounces I believe. It has been said here many times it is difficult to get someone to believe something when their paycheck (and bonuses) depends on them not seeing it.

    And in a State where the ‘spiking’ of citizens for the benefit of public officers is being enabled (the date rape drugs becoming their “Regular Medications” with a little bit of after the fact document “editing”), it would be extremely difficult to find a cause and effect type relationship.

    Which drugs can be administered covertly to citizens before police interrogations? Who can administer them covertly and be given immunity as a ‘confidential informant’ by police? How many hours after subjecting the victim to acts of torture can a doctor write a prescription for the drugs administered to cover up acts of torture (in my case 12 hours had passed before I was introduced to the Senior Medical Officer who wrote a prescription for the ‘spiking’, and AFTER I had been subjected to an ‘acute stress reaction’ by police and been subjected to questioning surrounded by 5 public officers with weapons)?

    There was one situation with a ‘suspect’ (patsy is possibly the correct term) was given high grade marijuana by an undercover police officer (and some jewelry from the scene of a murder) which was done to ‘enhance’ the effect of his arrest and interrogation. Taken with his knowledge, which I assume meant it wasn’t necessary to have his ‘covertly medicated’ (though we will never know given the means of concealment involve having doctors forge prescriptions and when investigated there is “insufficient evidence” even when the documents haven’t been retrieved by police. Facts, truth not an issue). He was then asked about how the murder may have happened, asked to draw the type of weapon that may have been used (a simple drawing of a wrench), and this was then presented to the Court as being his confession by police.

    He did 12 years prison before the ‘verbal’ was sorted….. something I don’t think the people at mental health acting as ‘informant’s’ realise the significance of when they are doing them. ‘Verbals’ that is. The documents forged to justify my ‘detention’ (and I contest that term) simply uttered with by even the Minister despite the fact they failed to retrieve the real set showing they were forged. They simply deny reality and continue with the slander, and the community follows as they have families that can be ‘fuking destroyed’ too.

  • “the idea of “treating” a “social disorder” by medical means seems stupid, kind of like drinking alcohol to deal with having a dead-end job and an unsatisfying relationship.”

    We are currently having the ‘debate’ (not that it is ever really a debate in our media, which is told by the elite what the opinions of the public are and they then tell them what they think) about the beating and public flogging of children.

    It used to be that this was thought to be the best method of bringing them into line……. then some bright spark started looking at the effect of the ban on these public floggings at schools in Finland and we then stopped that being enabled in the late 1970s.

    We have since moved to a ‘medical model’ to deal with ‘disruptive kids’ in classrooms as a means to beat the little darlings who cause teacher problems.

    This isn’t working out so good either, though there are still many who ‘see’ the ‘treatments’ as being ‘like insulin for diabetes’…… so there’s still money to be made by those who prescribe and the suppliers (one doctor prescribing ADHD drugs to more than 2000 ‘patients’ in a calendar year, so the government got rid of the ability of the public to examine the data relating to prescribing patterns)

    Personally the more I look at the way the role of the Mufti has gone in Islamic societies (mainly due to increased literacy and education), by the issuing of fatwas (diagnoses given weight by the courts?) in support of the courts, to being the modern day equivalent of ‘social workers’….. the more I can see this being the future of psychiatrists. Take away the use of State sanctioned violence and force and their role would likely change within a year.

    Courts deal with facts, fatwas are opinions. And when doctor becomes judge, jury and executioner based on opinion alone (and the magistrates became afraid? Acts 16;38….. they treat us as “Outpatients” [to enable arbitrary detentions and torture] but we are “citizens”)?

    But who takes over the morality Policing?

  • “Because slavery wasn’t supported by enslaved people. Some people with psychiatric disorders support psychiatry.”

    You obviously have never been ‘treated’ involuntarily. (nor have I but I was unlawfully detained using the Mental Health Act to enable me to be tortured which has given me insight into what is being wrongly called ‘medicine’ by certain people)

    If it wasn’t supported by the slave, he/she was considered to have drapetomania (the old equivalent of todays elutheromania), and they received treatment for that ‘illness’.

    Given that situation I think you will find that there were many slaves who supported the institution of slavery (with rewards for those who would provide information to the master etc about escape plots).

    Better the Devil you know?

    “Those who would sacrifice their liberty for a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”? Forget who said that….. maybe the Marquis de Sade?

  • I realise that the US has not ratified the Convention against the use of torture (and given that the country that I live in has, and that it isn’t worth the paper [or internet] it is written on) but;

    Article 1

    “1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term “torture” means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.”

    Note the use of the terms “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction”? Know how many abuses occur and are then concealed by bringing the victims under the provisions of the Mental Health Act? You never will, because the State is “editing” the legal narratives to ensure that they NEVER torture…. and with the push to make sure the only people who can actually make reports of torture to the U.N. are the State, who are enabling these acts of torture with their “editing” and denial of access to legal representation ….. well, you can see where that might be going. A blanket cover up ensuring nothing ever makes it through, and the ‘agreement’ which has been ratified is worth absolutely nothing. (“They will take their oaths as a cover”)

    Torture victims become ‘patients’, patients are then ‘medicated’ with a chemical kosh (no National Standard as to what constitutes a ‘chemical restraint’), and any complaints means you will be ‘fucking destroyed’ (to quote the public officer who “edited” my legal narrative to make me into a mental patient of ten years before I was subjected to acts of torture. That and the release of slanderous documents from my old medical records, “edited” to do as much character damage as possible….. with plausible deniability of course)

    I didn’t actually meet the “Inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” loophole as I was not an “Outpatient” (or any other type of patient) before being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and snatched out of my bed by police. Well, until the documents were “edited” for my ‘legal representatives’, who in fact place the interests of the State before the interests of their ‘clients’ (using the “elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'” described by Frantz Fanon in his book The Wretched of the Earth)

    What is the strict legal definition of Torture in the U.S.?

    I know my ‘treatment’ certainly met the standards set out in the Convention…… unless you have the power to utter with forged documents and deny reality (as does our Minister for Health). That and intimidation and threats to peoples families and witnesses. It does however expose the methods being used by the State to others who do not have a conflict of interest, and who “don’t have the stomach for it”.

    Spikings with date rape drugs (made inot “Regular Medications” with a forged prescription signed post hoc), and use of police to cause “acute stress reactions” before interrogations (tell police the victim is an “Outpatient” and make them appear dangerous by planting a knife and some drugs on them once they collapse from the ‘spiking’). Concealed post hoc with forged documents, and the denial of access to legal representation.

  • “About 10 minutes or so [after the second dose], I began to feel like I was falling, spinning and losing my mind, completely out of control. I sat there for almost 4 hours absolutely terrified. Terrified that I would never feel ‘normal’ again, that I would die, I would lose everything I cared about. I cried in fear and begged the person who gave me the medicine to make it stop.”

    Sounds promising for covert administration by police before causing ‘acute stress reactions’ and interrogations. And works much faster than benzodiazepines?

    It would thus save waiting for the person who had been ‘spiked’ to collapse before having police raise them back to consciousness with a tazer. So be careful refusing to speak to someone at a counselling service, they have powers you can only dream of having.

    The approval would be required to enable doctors to prescribe the drug post hoc and make it the “Regular Medication” of the person being interrogated (to conceal what would be considered an act of torture by making it ‘medical care’ and the person who is now exhibiting symptoms of a mental illness an “Outpatient”)….. though with after the fact due process, and legal narrative “editing” by the State, anything is possible.

    “I have no reason to suppose that he, who would take away your liberty, would not when he had me in his power, take away everything else” John Locke.

  • At the beginning of covid I was saying to people “I never thought I’d see the day when I’d rather tell people I had syphilis than sneeze in a shopping centre”

    I got to thinking about this and wondered about the similarities and differences between being diagnosed with syphilis and a mental illness.

    The drugs for syphilis actually work, and your don’t end up contracting gonorrhea and herpes as a result of taking them.

    You can stop taking the drugs once they have done the job, and don’t have to add other drugs.

    People will actually start to interact with you in normal ways once you have been cured.

    And whilst there are times when the issue of public health may require the use of force and incarceration (people who have deliberately infected others for example), such cases are extremely rare.

    Looking back, the unlawful release of my confidential medical records from a Private Clinic which does legal medico reports for the Courts has me wondering if I might have been better of had I been infected with V.D. and had my medical records posted on a hospital bulletin board, as opposed to these ‘whisperers’ of the slander of ‘mental illness’. Their ‘confidential informant’ concealing the origin of the “Provisional Diagnosis” by having the State call her at her day job rather than the Private Clinic whose relationship with the Courts may have been affected by such unlawful release of a citizens personal medical records, ie breaching the Federal Privacy Act.

    And, after all, it was decided I didn’t even have an ‘illness’ anyway. All that trouble to conceal the arbitrary detention, torture and unlawful release of confidential medical records from the Clinic to find out there was nothing wrong with me? I wonder if that would have been the process had I been suspected of having the Pox?

    “spiked’ with date rape drugs and unlawfully detained under the Mental Health Act (called an “Outpatient” to use Police to force me into ‘care’) while they administered the cure? The lack of insight into my condition (which I didn’t actually have) justifying the method of forced treatment? The legal narrative “edited” post hoc to conceal the need to check the allegation via human rights abuses?

    See what happens when you don’t have a valid blood test for the ‘illness’? The paranoids have taken over the asylum……. “potential for violence, but no actual history or clear intent”…… best we administer a ‘chemical restraint’ and then use the effects as symptoms of the illness we want him to have, to then administer more of the drugs that cause the symptoms?

    And these guys are the smart ones? If they were roofing carpenters it would be like putting a pile of wood on the top of the bricks, and then throwing a pack of nails at it and expecting praise for the quality of the work. It’s not their fault the roof tiler is having trouble with his part of the job…… he simply doesn’t understand the complexity of roof carpentry.

    I think that the comparison to the medical field of sexually transmitted diseases is much more valid than any other area (eg cardiology, dermatology etc) because there is a level of stigma associated with STDs. It also highlights the use of real medicine as compared to these made up illnesses and ‘treatments’.

  • Bonnie Burstow once said;

    “Someone who takes the position off the top of their head that there is something to be said for both anti-psychiatry and psychiatry is not coming at the issue with an open mind. They already have a pre-established storyline, which is not the same as seeing where the evidence points. There were two sides too to the abolition of slavery in the US, but that does not mean that the truth of what was right lay somewhere in between.”

    So what is “the truth of what is right” with regards ‘mental health treatments and services’? The ability to make anyone the State would like into an “Outpatient” post hoc fits quite well with the “pre-established storyline” spoken about by Ms Burstow. If you don’t like the truth, treat it, and “edit” the legal narrative to conceal your human rights abuses.

    Any wonder nurses are approaching doctors to back date death certificates?

    Where there’s a will……. there’s relatives.

    The FOI Office will ensure that the preferred narrative is the one provided to the Coroner……. interesting little ‘con’ the way they were to achieve that via the Law Centre. A bit like Amway…. ask me how lol

    I suppose if God wanted the truth to be known, he wouldn’t have created an FOI Office to ‘filter’ the legal narratives before distribution. (‘have him sign this and he will then be a ‘patient’ and the conspiring to pervert the course of justice becomes ‘medical care”)

    This really brought a whole new meaning to the “Voluntary Assisted Dying” legislation for me. After the fact due process? A denial of access to documentation by legal representatives to conceal the substantive breaches of process? Legal representatives actively participating in the forging of letters from authorities to cover up arbitrary detentions and torture? And if you complain? ….. seriously, you don’t want to know…….

    As Dr Aftab once said;

    It “risks feeding into distrust of the medical system and available treatment options completely, Aftab said, and leading people to be wary of seeking help at all.”

  • Come to where the flavor is…. Come to Marlboro Country.

    I’ll be long dead by the time anything is done about these frauds that deliberately ‘fucking destroyed’ my life.

    The cigarette companies and government have managed to extract larger profits for less product under the guise of stopping people from harming themselves, and shuffled their money sideways. I can only begin to imagine how ‘psychiatry’ will deal with the people “breathing threats of litigation” (the words I quote from the doctor who signed off on my torture to the inquiry from the Office of the Chief Psychiatrist about my detention and ‘treatment’)

    Though I do understand there is a difference between our legal and political systems, with Australia preferring to “edit” legal narratives to suit purposes, and ‘fucking destroy’ anyone who dares speak truth to power.

    Our Euthanasia Laws now showing the cracks I spoke about here more than two years ago. A doctor refusing to sign off on a man who had been put into a body bag before he was dead…….. the ‘after the fact due process’ “edited” version preferred by the State. So much for the “more than a hundred protections” huh?

    Nurses left to ‘clear’ beds, and asking doctors to sign the documents post hoc? I have a problem when the legal narrative can be “edited” before an independent ‘advocate’ can examine said documentation (though they too have families that can be ‘fucking destroyed’ by the State for complaining or being a little over zealous). Though our Minister tells me that even asking about such “editing” matters is justification for you to be ‘treated’. “They wouldn’t do that” and “It never happened” the Party line lest the Jack Boots be sent to arbitrarily detain and force treat you for your illness which can be made up on the spot by a Community Nurse.

    Serious concerns given the issue of homelessness, and the call to ‘treat’ people for their inability to access a home due to the costs.

    But a good article Mr Levine.

    On the issue of the baby though. What would we use to ‘measure’ the harm done to people if not the ‘measures’ we would get rid of with the psychiatric ‘bible’? Going from Imperial to Metric is simply a conversion, and a whole lot of problems in change over. But a brick is still a brick.

  • “Anarchists and professional protesters” is what our Premier called people who were living in tents in a City Park.

    I note that the lack of affordable housing (or any housing for that matter) is as a direct result of the negligence of planners within government. Our Premier recently called Scrooge McDuck for his hoarding of the taxes he has been taking in, and not spending because of the cost of labour. (though large bonuses for our Politicians seem to be exempt).

    There is an element of a ‘planned crisis’ about all of this, with investment properties increasing exponentially in price. But you won’t see journalists examining the real causes, simply pointing to the problem.

    One program last week “A Place to Call Home” (4 Corners) asking zero questions about why there has been a lack of foresight on the part of successive governments. It seemed a fairly simple equation…. how many people, how many houses will we need………. oh sorry, the labour is needed elsewhere now for the mining industry, and the money is being diverted into the pockets of a select few.

    Sadly I can see us now sliding down the path of disposing of these unproductive members of society, and we have had enough foresight to pass laws allowing us to do so (Euthanasia Laws with after the fact due process [and no numbers to be kept on the people accessing the ‘assistance’] resulting in a man being delivered to the Morgue before he was even dead lol A mere ‘technicality’ the about to happen cover up will no doubt tell us).

    Mind you, I think many of the so called ‘middle class’ are now finding out how quick the fall to homelessness can be, even when you have a full time job. Work shall make you free to live in your car…. and then require ‘treatments’ should you complain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snup4XmKioU

    “Jesus wept, Jesus Christ. I can’t see for the tear gas, and the Dollar signs in my eyes. But what’s a man got left to fight for when he’s lost his freedom? By the look of this human jungle It ain’t just the Poor who’ll be bleeding”

    “Come on down, the Devils in Town”

  • “the DSM and the psychiatric “mental health” drug-and-pray paradigm”

    Standing at the alter in front of the Big Pill lol

    “I think it’s important we not fall into the trap of deciding what is right for other people.”

    Now there’s some good advice. If I want to leave someone who is prepared to plunge a large carving knife into my chest because I said “no”, it might be best that ‘mental health services’ keep their noses out of it and NOT feel there is a need to arbitrarily detain and torture me.

    A functioning individual who had a hard time at work, gets through it with assistance of a good psychiatrist, and some average therapists, comes across a vicious abuser who feels that the money I was compensated with actually belongs to her, and will unlawfully release my medical records to her husband (a Shock Doc) to extract that money with electricity. That failed in my instance though I’m certain I wasn’t the only one with whom they tried. The vulnerable tend to be targets for such parasites.

    My refusal to remove my sign (see Jeff Foxworthy re the shark bite suit…. hold on to my sign [“i’m stupid”] coz I wouldn’t want to loose it) and have the ‘treatment’ upsetting for the clinic psychologist who was Shang-Hai ing ‘clients’ from the private clinic once they had been ‘paid out’. Nice bread and butter jobs……

    Point being that I was ready to return to work, and as result of the need to check if my decision to leave my wife for attempting to kill me was ‘rational’, I haven’t worked a day since….. in 11 years. Never a single day off because of ‘psychological issues’ in the previous 30 years. Nothing until smeared with the stink of mental health services. Nor seen my family because of the need of the hospital who did the job for ‘them’ to “fucking destroy” anyone with a valid complaint…. confirmed in the unredacted documents which are concealed via delays and obstruction of justice

    I suppose the disposability of humans was made very clear to me in the E.D. Euthanasia Laws with after the fact due process, and “edited” legal narratives for those bleeding heart liberals and advocates who don’t have the stomach for it.

    Did you hear the laws in China have the potential for human rights abuses? A bit like their ‘potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships’ when they turn up at your home with Police and ‘detain’ you in front of your family for your ‘potential illness’ which tends to appear with the injection of enough anti psychotics to lay an elephant out for a month.

  • “It is quite literally disquieting that our work has become increasingly threatened by the pressures to release private information about our patients”

    “Please take the time to respond to Jim’s piece with
    your experiences of these threats and how you have
    managed them in your work with patients or, if
    you are a patient, how these pressures have made
    (or not made) their way into your treatment.”

    My first situation not relevant because I was not a ‘patient’ in a therapeutic relationship with the clinic psychologist, and the release of my medical records was not a passive act as a result of a request from someone else. It was planned out (incapacitate and have the target taken into custody first, then release the information) and concealed by creating the appearance that the information had been requested by the State.

    The second situation I would raise would be the way that Police threatened the psychologist who I had been speaking with to say that the attempt to refer me for trying to report the offences I had been subjected to “never happened”.

    The documents containing the ‘confidential informants’ name from the Private Clinic obviously a concern for the State, and they thought that Police had retrieved them…… so they were not only having the psychologist release information about his patient, but they were actively providing him with questions they required an answer to. “Who else has got the documents?”….. and when I told him, I don’t think he was looking forward to informing his ‘handlers’. The list was rather long, and keep in mind they had forged and uttered with a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist by this time. Literally anything justified to protect the ‘informant’.

    The psychologist became concerned once I confronted him with his ‘unethical behaviour’ and said he was afraid for his family. And I can understand that given I had sat for nearly two years with him telling him how the threat from the Operations Manager to “fucking destroy” me and my family for trying to make a complaint about being arbitrarily detained and tortured had been carried out.

    The problem being that he would be aware that discussing such conduct as a result of reading the article could quite easily result in his identity being released (he is after all a ‘thief’ among ‘thieves’), and he would find that the demand that he say “it never happened” had been breached may result in harm to his family.

    The first rule of Backstabbers Club is you do not talk about Backstabbers Club.

    or

    “Snitches get stitches”

    So I doubt you will be hearing the whole story about the pressures to release information about clients anytime soon. This method of corrupting the Courts a benefit in the short term to Police and others who obtain a benefit from corrupting the judicial system in this manner.

    I say the short term because we have historic examples of where this type of conduct progresses to.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    This man to be charged with causing damage to police property (the motor vehicle they mowed him down with damaged, and the boots which will require cleaning to remove blood and hair) once he is brought out of the induced coma (snow job whilst documents are “edited”).

    Causing such ‘acute stress reactions’ (especially in people who have been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs) and calling them “Outpatients” (wrongly) seems to me to open up a whole new arena of interrogation techniques. Though I also note the use of such methods in Algeria under the French colonial system. See Frantz Fanon Wretched of the Earth.

    What surprised me was the amount of people aware that it is being done. That is, the ‘relationship’ between police and their ‘confidential informants’ at mental health services. So much that they have placed a ‘mental health professional’ into every police station in the State….that should really come in handy to do referrals of citizens once they exhibit signs of ‘illness’ after being acutely stress reacted, and arrange to have the date rape drugs covertly administered into their “Regular Medications” using the ‘after the fact due process’ “editing” method.

    Difficult work, but there are those who have the stomach for it.

  • This is starting to make John Merrick look like Miss Universe.

    A State informant (therapist) working with ‘clients’ in a Private Clinic that provides legal medico reports for defense attorneys? Releasing the medical records of ‘ex clients’ on request (and for a small fee)? Prepared to arrange ‘spikings’ with date rape drugs and then have police cause an ‘acute stress reaction’ to have them answer questions in front of Police? There’s a term for that…. and its not ‘healthcare’.

    The link to the Private Clinic concealed by having the Senior Medical Officer call the informant at the University, and NOT at the Clinic. The records however came from the Private Clinic. This all arranged the night before when the plan to have me incapacitated with date rape drugs and plant items for police to find was hatched.

    I scratched my head over why they didn’t call the MHERL immediately from the clinic given the ‘danger’ I posed, and instead had my wife return home to ‘spike’ me and then call MHERL in the morning at 9am when the ‘therapist’ was at her ‘day job’. Once police were procured by mental health services to cause the ‘acute stress reaction’, the items required by police could then be planted (ie the knife and some cannabis)

    My my, It seems the “elegant method” described by Frantz Fanon is being used against the ‘enemies of the State’ ……. that is people otherwise called citizens.

    No wonder police were concerned about “who else has the documents?” and were prepared to threaten and intimidate a psychologist to have him ask the questions….. and steal my laptop to find out who I had been communicating with.

    Sorry to all those exposed to these criminals acting as public officers……. I had no idea they would do that, and well given the cover up of the State it seems it never happened despite the proof now being available. I understand your fears now……. unintended negative outcomes with ‘after the fact due process’ via “editing” of legal narratives. That and ‘legal representatives’ prepared to throw their clients under a bus for an increase in their funding for ‘access to the law’ programs lol

  • I’ve realised that your article doesn’t apply to the situations which I am speaking about Mr Gottstein.

    In my situation I wasn’t actually a ‘client’ of the ‘therapist’, and she was merely claiming to act as a ‘confidential informant’ for the State by releasing my medical records (part of a compensation claim against my employer, the State) from a Private Clinic which does legal medico reports for the Courts, once I had been incapacitated with date rape drugs and arbitrarily detained.

    The Senior Medical Officer who made the date rape drugs into my “Regular Medications” after I had been ‘verballed’ and transported by police, had asked the ‘therapist’ for access to my medical records, which she had planned to have with her at her day job, just in case she was asked by someone about them……

    My issue with this though is that I had an agreement with the psychiatrist at the Private Clinic (I understand the US system is different), that he would protect MY medical records from such releases.

    Given that this Clinic does a lot of reports for the courts one would imagine it would need more than a telephone call from someone to a ‘therapist’ to have such records of ex clients released without their consent? (though there is the argument that I was incapable of providing my consent to the release due to the plan to have me incapacitated with date rape drugs).

    So what about the situation where a ‘therapist’ is acting as a ‘confidential informant’ for the State (as suggested by Mr Deacon) to release information held in trust by a Private Clinic?

    Is the ‘therapist’ not breaching their obligations to their ‘client’, their employer (the Clinic psychiatrist) AND the relationship of the Clinic with the Courts?

    And is the State not guilty of reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging the clinic psychologist to do as she did and be involved in sanctioning atrocious breaches of the sworn duty of every medical professional to discharge all duties imposed on them faithfully and according to law without favour or affection, malice or ill-will?

    I am paraphrasing the decision of the High Court in regards Lawyer X/Nicola Gobbo here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Gobbo

    I know based on the evidence I have at hand, the State was more than prepared to use ‘mental health treatments’ to ensure the protection of their ‘confidential informant’. That and the “editing” of legal narrative of documents relating to the arbitrary detention and interrogation of me whilst stupefied with date rape drugs without my knowledge provided to lawyers who had a right to examine unredacted documents. Imagine the ‘potential’ if ‘confidential informants’ can being ‘spiking’ the people they are informing on despite only having a Masters degree in psychology? Doctor will write a prescription for them post hoc?

    Though personally I think it was nothing more than a method of concealing the appalling breach of trust by the ‘therapist’ AND the fact that all of the ‘clients’ at the Private Clinic should have been informed that their medical records were being compromised in this manner as a matter of ‘public interest disclosure’. The potential for ‘reputational damage’ to those who had records held in trust by the Clinic clear for all to see….. once the cover up had been exposed. Though would this not cause a large number of problems for the Courts as well as the Clinic?

    And should the State really be allowing such ‘unintended negative outcomes’ to occur in the name of protecting ‘confidential informants’? A clever means of procuring police services to assist in the concealment of public sector misconduct though. Make the claim that the person you have conspired to commit offences and human rights abuses with is a ‘confidential informant’, and there is no end of ‘assistance’ available from police.

    The Mental Health Law Centre even obtaining authority to forge and utter with a letter from the ‘Chief Psychiatrist’ (once they had checked with me that I didn’t still have the ‘documents’ proving what I am alleging)……. now that’s real power.

  • “Any inquiry into psych’s behavior is dismissed via stigma about “that population”.”

    When asked about a report into the claim that nearly 50% of the women who had been hospitalised over the previous year had been sexually assaulted, our Minister for Mental Health stated in Parliament…..”You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”.

    I can’t think of better documented proof of what your saying that the Parliamentary Hansards.

  • “And therapist client privilege is much weaker than attorney client privilege.”

    Which possibly explains why the State was prepared to fuking destroy me for complaining about the release of my medical records by their ‘confidential informant’ at the Private Clinic where reports are prepared for the Courts.

    That really is quite a resource when you think about it. Give the psychologist with a Masters degree a call and she will give you all the information you want about a certain Member of Parliament or the wealthiest man in the country….. because she has ‘public sector immunity’ and they will “edit” reality which is justified to protect their unlawful ‘source’.

    Seems a little unfair when the potential to corrupt the Courts is clearly present, and it is a fundamental breach of their duties to the justice system but ……… these are people with a Machiavellian attitude towards their work.

    Putting the questions police would like answers to in the hands of ‘mental health professionals’ and looking the other way while they extract the answers seems somehow …… justified. It would be called something else if they didn’t have the status of “Outpatients”. Dr Selwyn Leeks use of an ECT machine on the testicles of teenage boys considered ‘treatment’ by definition.

    Oh, and the ‘clients’ at the Private Clinic doing the legal medico reports? They don’t have a right to know their medical records are being compromised and released should anyone want to know what’s contained therein? Oh that’s right, they will accept the word of the criminal releasing the files that they aren’t doing a lot of it….. mainly because that reality suits their needs…. for now.

  • “If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, “it never happened”—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death.“ Orwell 1984.

    I think back to the psychologist who actually helped me get to a point where I was capable of walking into a Police Station with the proof of the crimes I have alleged here on the pages of MiA.

    Police had me ‘flagged’ for an automatic mental health referral due to my truth not matching with the “edited” version of their reality. And so they called the psychologist to do an arbitrary detention and have me ‘snowed’ for turning up in their station with proof of police/mental health services misconduct.

    The attempt to have me unlawfully ‘referred’ for “hallucinating” failed as the psychologist had been over the documents I had in detail with me, and so he ‘informed’ police that it was not an “hallucination” to be claiming you had been drugged without your knowledge, when you had the documented proof.

    Thus that avenue of cover up by police was closed.

    They claimed I could be arrested for having the documents (my own medical records obtained lawfully via FOI application. Doing you a favor by not arresting you for a crime that doesn’t exist) and when that failed, they claimed I could be arrested for the ‘verballed’ threat made by the author of the documents (the Community Nurse). I demonstrated to the Officer how the threat had gone from a ‘threat to harm’ (statement by my wife about a historic matter. “communicated matter”) to a ‘threat to kill’ (verballed statement by the Community Nurse about an “observed matter”) and that I was more than happy to present my evidence to the Courts should he choose to charge me.

    Given this officer didn’t want to even put his hands on the documents (due to the ‘flag’ on the system) he was hardly going to charge me for the contents of those documents. So I was not charged, and walked away with an ‘Incident Report Number’. Being able to deny ever being in possession of the documents critical in the concealment of the offences for both the criminals and their enablers.

    On returning to the psychologist we laughed about the stupidity of police trying to have me referred for “hallucinating”….. that is, until the police wanted to know “who else has the documents?”. They could hardly ask me, as it was me they were committing offences against…. and so chose to use the psychologist as their ‘confidential informant’ to put the questions they wanted answered to me. This along with stealing my laptop to find out who I had been communicating with and about what……. showing the desperation to conceal the truth. And all the while others were watching. Ever seen a Vampire having Holy Water thrown over them? lol

    The psychologist was obviously concerned about conspiring with corrupt police, especially given he also knew who else I had been discussing these matters with…. and that I had ‘eyes’ on the proceedings.

    So when I raised the interactions with the police when they had tried to have me ‘referred’ for a ‘snow job’ rather than take the proof of the offending, he became afraid for his family and said “it never happened”. It’s a gut wrenching feeling to look into the eyes of someone you trusted who is prepared to openly and knowingly lie to your face….. but I get it, they threatened his family. Mine had already been “fucking destroyed”, and that is maintained by those uttering with known fraudulent documents to this very day.

    See the problem here was that police and mental health were trying to claim that the clinic psychologist who had unlawfully released my medical records form the Private Clinic was protected by ‘public interest immunity’ ….. when they knew all along that she wasn’t….. though with some “editing” and a little accident arranged for the E.D. it was never going to be an issue…. and the medical records of ALL the clients at the Private Clinic could then be compromised. Police quite happy to ‘assist’ their ‘confidential informant’ by retrieving the documents I had to ‘assist’ the Law Centre’ and the hospital in their conspiring to pervert the course of justice, by forging a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist, and denying access to effective legal representation.

    Sometimes Steve, the people claiming “it never happened” are being subjected to some serious threats and intimidation to provide ‘information’ to the police (“who else has got the documents?”). I still feel sorry for that beige cardigan wearing psychologist (who had a PhD) who wasn’t really prepared to stand by the ‘oath’ he had taken, and instead was prepared to ‘assist’ corrupt police in concealing acts of State sanctioned torture and arbitrary detentions.

    He would have to be careful, he might find his Birth Certificate being “edited” and that he is now one of the ‘Cohens’ (the method used by the National Socialists in Germany?)

    Quite a score for someone though, having access to the Private Clinic medical records via a ‘confidential informant’, especially given I sat next to Members of Parliament in the waiting room. Or is this a fundamental breach of the trust and confidence that the ‘clients’ placed in the Private Clinic to meet the standards set out in the Federal Privacy Act of not finding means to justify the release of such information provided in trust and confidence? That is, incapacitate the person whose records you want to release with date rape drugs and have police detain them because you lie and tell them they are your “Outpatient”?

    The ‘diagnosis’ I was given served a purpose, and a good one from what I can gather. I was compensated for the damage that had been done by my employment. Though the clinic psychologist (with a Masters degree) has been taking those ‘diagnoses’ and weaponing them against people who can be ‘plucked’ when ripe for wealth extraction it would seem.

    It was kind of amazing that the Senior Medical Officer who wrote the prescription for the date rape drugs making them my “Regular Medications” also managed to match the ‘Billing Codes’ from the Private Clinic in his “Provisional Diagnosis” in a matter of three minutes and with two questions (‘Lives with his wife’, and ‘has a degree in psychology’. It took the Private Clinic psychiatrist a little longer that that. Was he overcharging me for something that can be done in three minutes? lol. Or is the “Provisional Diagnosis” proof of the breach of my medical records held at the Private Clinic?).

    Public interest immunity, or public interest disclosure to allow the ‘clients’ the ability to protect themselves against ‘reputational damage’? It would be interesting to know what has been done by those with a duty to act, because as it stands all they seem to have done is obstruct justice. I suppose when you hate the truth, and have zero respect for the law….. what ya gunna do huh?

    The government motto….. “Keep on Editing” (thinking of Keep on Truckin)

  • “2) Conform and pass that hatred onto their clients whom the clinicians decides to blame for the clinicians low status.”

    There’s something in the comments for me, though I find it difficult to put my finger on it.

    A therapist being given the ‘crap jobs’ (the newbie in the Clinic for example), and who is failing in their ‘case load’ finds it easier to give a diagnosis of BPD (Borderline?) and have their ‘failing to respond to treatment’ clients referred for ECTs to at least extract some profit from them?

    I mean I never heard the words of Borderline PD mentioned until I complained about my medical records being unlawfully released from the Private Clinic. Which when you think about it, and given the fact that this Clinic does a lot of legal medico reports for the Courts is quite a breach of the Privacy Act which would require informing ALL their ‘clients’ of the potential for ‘reputational damage’. This including sitting politicians etc………..

    Or you could call it BPD and ‘treat’ the complaint right? This would also mean a little bit of “editing” on the part of the State to ensure that the breach didn’t ‘spread’ through the legal system and corrupt all the other decisions made based on compromised reports produced by the Private Clinic (in the same mannner the exposing of a lawyer acting as a paid informant for police did [Nicola Gobbo]….. that is organised criminals and murderers walking free and being compensated for their wrongful convictions).

    So the States ‘confidential informant’ was unlawfully breaching the Privacy Act, and could not lawfully obtain the protections afforded such informants?

    The High Court decided;

    “Generally speaking, it is of the utmost importance that assurances of anonymity of the kind that were given to EF [Gobbo] are honoured. If they were not, informers could not be protected and persons would be unwilling to provide information to the police which may assist in the prosecution of offenders. That is why police informer anonymity is ordinarily protected by public interest immunity. But where, as here, the agency of police informer has been so abused as to corrupt the criminal justice system, there arises a greater public interest in disclosure to which the public interest in informer anonymity must yield.

    EF’s actions in purporting to act as counsel for the Convicted Persons while covertly informing against them were fundamental and appalling breaches of EF’s obligations as counsel to her clients and of EF’s duties to the court. Likewise, Victoria Police were guilty of reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging EF to do as she did and were involved in sanctioning atrocious breaches of the sworn duty of every police officer to discharge all duties imposed on them faithfully and according to law without favour or affection, malice or ill-will. As a result, the prosecution of each Convicted Person was corrupted in a manner which debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system.”

    The ‘public interest immunity’ in my instance has also corrupted ALL of the decisions made by the courts in regards the reports produced by the Private Clinic. How many files have been compromised? And we are to believe the claim by the clinic psychologist that she doesn’t do it often? I suppose what the clients don’t know, can’t hurt them right? Or they won’t know until after the ‘reputational damage’ has been done?

    So a Private Clinic psychologist (with a Masters degree) is releasing confidential information from files held under the Federal Privacy Act is claiming ‘public interest immunity’ as a ‘confidential informant’? So the people placing their trust and confidence in the Private Clinic for reports for the courts are simply not aware their medical records are being handed around with ‘immunity’?

    It is my firm belief that their is a greater public interest in disclosure as a direct result of the methods employed to corrupt and pervert the course of justice in these matters. And the High Court, it would appear, agrees with me.

  • ‘These two other examples of the emergency doctor and how they teach you to behave in clinical psychology courses is telling.’

    I am reminded of the comedian who tells of how every black joke starts……

    (white guy looks left suspiciously, looks right suspiciously…. the coast is clear) There were two black guys in a Bar………..

    I think such ‘hate speech’ is common, though tends to be contained within certain groups where the assumption is they are in their own company.

    Being a Muslim who doesn’t necessarily look all Muslimy, I have found this common among the older generation I congregate with. The change in peoples behaviours once they find out is telling…. the ignoring, and other ‘signs’ which are obviously down to that one piece of information (which they would never admit to it being a result of, of course. I’m not a racist, Islamophobe, mysogynist, etc…… I just don’t talk to black Muslim women which is purely coincidental) Goffman wrote a book about it called Stigma; notes on the management of spoiled identity.

    You can see the same sort of ‘professional snobbery’, and total disregard for anyone who has been labelled ‘patient’ here at MiA if you look close enough. Put the letters PhD M.D. after your name and your answer will be in your inbox before you have time to click ‘refresh’. Otherwise there’s a party, and your not invited.

    It’s a great way of identifying the hypocrites though.

    I always admired Dr Hickey who made sure he responded to anyone who took the time to post a comment. Though he didn’t tolerate fools.

  • The FOI Officer identifies the offending by the Community Nurse, Senior Medical Officer and Clinic psychologist and my estranged wife, and redacts the proof of the ‘spiking’ and the ‘confidential informant’ who released my medial records that made them believe I was a ‘patient’ of the Private Clinic.

    The hospital has dealt with me …… AS IF…… I were an “Outpatient” to overcome the protections provided by the law, and have police force me into an interrogation conducted whilst I had been stupefied with date rape drugs without my knowledge. The documents show this.

    The Police were used to cause an “acute stress reaction” in someone who has been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs? Consider Article 1 of the Convention against the use of Torture. The two DO NOTS of ‘acute stress reaction? DO NOT force the person to talk…. check. DO NOT prescribe benzodiazepines…. check. Did it really happen if it is done covertly? Not when a doctor can write a fraudulent prescription for them after the fact…. torture concealed, phew. Administer the drugs and a doctor will sort the documents out later…. which is great when you consider the Euthanasia Laws we have passed. Hmmmm a body, now what documents do we need for the lawyers to stop asking questions?

    The FOI Officer then has a meeting with my wife when I make application for the documents (and the Law Centre also makes an application for unredacted documents which they have a right to examine).

    The FOI Officer, my wife and the Private clinic psychologist are trying desperately to have me obtain a referral to the Clinic psychologist to make me into a ‘patient’ post hoc……. and they fail. The FOI Officer has no justification for denying me access to my medical records, and in fact is knowingly conspiring to pervert the course of justice.

    What is interesting is that the FOI Officer has the victims make appeals to higher authorities which are never handed on….. she just pretends that the appeals have been ‘officially’ dealt with, and rejected…… while they attempt to find ‘alternative methods’ of dealing with their problem of being criminals.

    In my instance this involved ‘redacting’ the documents and laying it all at my wife feet, thus causing major problems in our marriage (My wife tells me she was threatened by the FOI Officer at one meeting they had to plan out a means to lawfully deny me access to my medical records, and to ensure she had an ‘ear to the ground’ with the Law Centre).

    What can be seen though is that the redactions clearly demonstrate how the Community Nurse has used police to create a false belief that he was requested to do an ‘assessment’ by Police (ie that it was a lawful ‘police referral’ under the MHA). It was the Community Nurse who called police and requested assistance with his “Outpatient” (receipt number XXXXX) contained in the documents, and redacted to conceal the offending by the Community Nurse. ie lay it all at the feet of police, who will no doubt use their unaccountability to conceal any misconduct by the Community Nurse in exchange for ……. well, lets face it, he is torturing people, and then having them ‘snowed’ for complaining.

    Interesting why the FOI Officer released the redacted documents showing the ‘spiking’ by my wife (after discussion with the Clinic psychologist the night before in their ‘planning session’) and that I had been made an “Outpatient” before the Community Nurse even left the hospital (the Forms he had completed were “Outpatient Case Notes” and I was certainly NOT an “Outpatient” of the Ariel Castro Memorial Hospital), but then wanted the documents back because the Law Centre lawyers had also made application for the unredacted documents….. woops, wasn’t expecting that……. the ‘confidential informant’ who had unlawfully released my medical records from the Private Clinic to be exposed?

    I had already been provided with that information in the redacted documents. My wife informing the hospital that I had been seeing a psychologist called XXX at the University. This was false, as I had never seen her at the University, but she was directing the hospital to her at her day job where she could be contacted to unlawfully release the medical records of someone now in custody, and stupefied without their knowledge with date rape drugs. The Billing Codes released to the Senior Medical Officer and documented in his three minute assessment of me as a “Provisional Diagnosis” (there’s your proof of the Privacy breach).

    I guess the Private Clinic psychologist was probably getting pretty nervous with all this going on, and my wife informing her of my every move to obtain the documented proof of these matters. Luckily a window of opportunity was created by Police refusing to take the documented proof of the crimes, and they could arrange to have my increasingly frustrated behaviour (as a result of months of gaslighting by these co conspirators) ‘treated’ with an unintentional negative outcome at the E.D.

    Rudely interrupted, and after which my wife had police assistance in retrieving the redacted documents the FOI Officer had released to me to cause family problems. That is before they sent out the fraudulent set to the Law Centre who were still waiting for the unredacted documents they had requested, and which they had a right to examine. The crimes removed and the legal narrative now has me as a ‘patient’ of the Ariel Castro Memorial for more than ten years and my ‘paranoid delusions’ about being ‘spiked’ should warn anyone choosing to speak to me to exercise caution. Amazing how the truth can be made into a ‘symptom’ with some “editing” huh? Oh, and the wife neater stuff, the Community Nurse needed to fabricate a ‘risk’ on his Forms…. this is one he seems to find particularly effective for the FOI Officer to utter with should any problems occur down the track. Such slander highly effective in denying access to legal representation etc.

    I won’t go into the “elegant method” used by having the lawyers at the Law Centre act as informants for the State to ensure that I didn’t still have the documented proof of the misconduct. Needless to say the forging of a response by the Chief Psychiatrist to the letter of complaint they drafted for their ‘client’ an absolute disgrace to the legal profession. They did of course need to check whether I still had the documents of concern to the State before doing such a vile deed…….. and unfortunately for them, I wasn’t aware they had been provided with a fraudulent set of documents called “edited”, and assumed they had examined the factual set, so had no need for the redacted documents I was still in possession of.

    “All clear”? Forge a letter of response from the Chief Psychiatrist and throw him under a bus for us………. nice new offices and cars 🙂 That is, until the Chief psychiatrist saw the letter and the redacted documents I had……… “Holy Shit” as one article here reads. lol

  • I have been considering the unlawful release of my personal medical records from the Private Clinic to the Public Hospital in the light of the arguments over the potential breach of personal data from a large telephone company.

    The hospital wanting me to be a ‘patient’ (as defined in the Mental Health Act, and which I was clearly NOT*) to justify their unlawful conduct, and prepared to commit acts of fraud and utter with known fraudulent documents to conceal the truth……. thinking they had to keep the ‘source’ of their ‘information’ a secret (the ‘confidential informant’ defense exploited so well by corrupt public officers). Never considering for a moment that it may be that the Private Clinic psychologist might be lying about my status. Clever to have the State do your torture and kidnappings for you right?

    I think the release of personal medical records unlawfully is in the public interest in as much as the Lawyer X situation justified the public being informed of the use of lawyers as paid police informants. See the arguments presented re the protection of ‘confidential informants’ put forward at the Lawyer X hearings.

    In respect of the telephone company , they have had to contact all of their customers (about 8 million) and warn them of the potential for damage to them as a result of the release of their personal information (drivers license numbers, passport information etc). There are arguments about the sophistication of the ‘hack’ and who is to be held accountable for the release (ie did the phone company do enough to protect the data given the standards set out in the Federal Privacy Act).

    And yet my medical records can be unlawfully released from a Private Clinic (documented proof available, and known about by my wife and ‘others’ at the time) and this is KNOWN to be occurring, and yet none of the other ‘clients’ are contacted and warned of the potential for ‘reputational damage’ which may occur as a result of the breach of their personal medical records? Records, which in some cases were reports prepared for the courts……… and were subject to some stringent conditions.

    In fact, the extreme methods employed to conceal these potential breaches beggars belief.

    It would be interesting to examine the way this breach of peoples personal medical records was handled by ‘authorities’ given the potential for damage to the clients of the Private Clinic. Cover it up and hope for the best was the strategy from what I can see in that instance. Slander and viciously attack the victim of the offences, and ensure that no one else is informed.

    Though I don’t suppose the telephone company has the power to make anyone they like into an “Outpatient” by telephone, have police pick them up, and then have them ‘treated’ in the Emergency Dept for speaking the truth.

    Do the ‘clients’ of the Private Clinic have a right to know that personal medical records have potentially been released unlawfully from a clinic they have attended? And if so, did that occur?

    Ignore it and it will all go away. It is always easy to find justifications for ignoring the truth. It is much more difficult to do your duty when everything is against you, pushing you to do otherwise. Double standards?

    * it may be that Andrews Mom may also find this information of use regarding the original detention of her son. Mental Health Services in my State creating the appearance of ‘Police referrals” to conceal their arbitrary detention and torture of citizens, and then concealing the documented facts should anyone make application for the proof of the misconduct. The Community Nurse calling police and requesting assistance with his “Outpatient”, knowing this was an offence (offences in fact), but also aware that such arbitrary detentions and torture are being enabled by the State via document “editing”.

    In my instance, police were ‘blind’ to the fact I was NOT an “Outpatient” and then forced me into an ‘interrogation’ with an Authorised Mental Health Practitioner, who fabricated the “reasonable grounds” on his statutory declarations. I was then passed over to Police for transport to his hospital (despite the fact I should have been taken in an ambulance due to being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs) thus creating the appearance that the Community Nurse had received a request from police for an ‘assessment’ (ie it looks like a Police referral to his colleagues at the hospital [except the Senior Medical Officer who is ready with a ‘chemical kosh’ after conspiring with the Private Clinic psychologist])

    Commonly referred to as a ‘man in the middle’ confidence trick, the victims are highly unlikely to ever resume normal living again, and most likely to take their own lives.

    I’d be interested in more information regarding the original detention of Andrew.

  • “Once there is a diagnosis of hospitalized patients with depression or acute schizophrenia give the patient a few days of humane treatment and respite care and then test the patients cognitively before the patient is prescribed medication.”

    The ‘diagnosis’ where I live is done over the telephone by a Community Nurse, and the “outpatient” is ‘sedated’ covertly, and then has a chemical cocktail administered once Police drop them off for the ‘treatment’.

    The idea of a few days of human treatment? You’d be lucky to wake up in a month with the amounts of chemicals being administered as ‘chemical restraints’ where I live (no National Standard as to what constitutes a chemical restraint means they go BIG. Especially when they can “edit” legal narratives should anything go wrong). It usually takes about 4 weeks for the ‘patient’ to be capable of shuffling to the smoking cage, whilst dribbling from the mouth…. and you want them to access a computer and do an online test? They won’t even allow you access to a pen to write a complaint form out without two guards lol.

    The ‘diagnosis’ is done after they have begun the ‘dribble therapy’, which then becomes the justification for the ‘dribble therapy’. The only real chance you have is if your insurance runs out, and the $200 hand shakers want the bed. So they send you home with a slanderous label and a bottle of pills to be administered to you by your ‘carers’ (unless of course they figure out what is actually causing the problems such as the dribbling ie the drugs)

    This was used quite effectively by Graham Young….. more ‘medicine’ mother?

  • “For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.”

    Beautiful.

    I have noticed that the people who talk about ‘confidentiality’ seem to be the ones who obtain a benefit from that ‘confidentiality’. No cameras in the Locked Wards because of ‘confidentiality’, though nothing to do with the vicious beatings patients are subjected to and which would be captured. Unlike Police who have to find means of deleting such videos. See for example the knee drops to an aboriginal mans head fracturing his skull because he ‘passively’ resisted arrest by being unconscious.

    Consider the lawyers (Shine Lawyers) who claimed that the documents I provided them showed that I have been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and that Police were told a lie that I was an “Outpatient” to use them to cause an ‘acute stress reaction’, but that my doctor had authorised that covert administration of a drug I have never been prescribed, and would never take willingly. I asked them to name the doctor they claimed had authorised these human rights abuses, and they said they couldn’t tell me who my doctor was for reasons of confidentiality.

    And I guess if I can’t know who my doctor is, or what drugs can be put into my food or drink because someone would like me to be stupefied/ intoxicated without my consent…… or that I can be made an “Outpatient” by a Community Nurse because someone called him and asked him to subject me to an interrogation about my decision to leave an abusive relationship…….

    The recent discussion about a National Integrity Commission to be held in secret is a good example of such ‘confidentiality’ Both ‘Parties’ supporting the “exceptional circumstances” clause for the public hearing of public sector corruption cases. Claiming that to have public hearings may mean ‘reputational damage’ to the people being investigated. It also means that the corrupt can conceal their own corruption…… one Member of Parliament stating that the ‘best disinfectant for corruption is the light of day’. Of course they would never agree to such public scrutiny, they simply want the advantages of the State who have had Corruption watchdogs that have allowed the concealment of corrupt links between public officers and organised criminals for years. The case of an aboriginal man who was tortured by police with electricity and the video of that torture concealed as not being in the public interest just one example of many.

    When you can ensure that the media can not publish anything because it is ‘being investigated’ by the corruption watchdog, it is the first port of call for the corrupt to ensure that the matters are concealed from the light. Star Chambers as they have been described.

    Andrews Mom writes;
    “The current policy is to “protect” the individuals subjected to involuntary commitments by not disclosing any information about their forced incarceration in institutions, or their legal proceedings. I could not access Andrew’s information as his next-of-kin; but I was able to obtain the records that he kept.”

    In my State there is the ability for a legal representative to examine unredacted documents (to protect human rights) on provision of a ‘confidentiality agreement’. The hospital then identifies the areas they are not to disclose to their client, and the reason for that non disclosure. In my instance that meant concealing a number of criminal offences, which I don’t think they wanted to put into writing……. so they “edited” the documents and told my ‘legal representatives’ to throw me under a bus. For this they received an increase in State government funding, and a shot at the title of Chief Psychiatrist (to enable to concealment of human rights abuses in future matters no doubt). A quid pro quo for the concealment of arbitrary detentions and torture, the Chief psychiatrist not needing to be a psychiatrist…. the role could be filled by a human rights lawyer…..hint hint Minister.

    My wife wasn’t even my next of kin but she was having meetings with the FOI Officer (who was threatening her) to ensure that I could be made into a ‘patient’ post hoc and that they could then conceal their conspiring to pervert the course of justice over the ‘spiking’ of me with date rape drugs. My medical records being shared with everyone but me, and not a soul questioning the ethics of all this, never mind the legality……. why bother when you simply “edit” your legal narrative? My wife not even my next of kin but acting as my ‘guardian’ despite the ‘redacted’ parts of the documents showing she was no such thing. They preferred that she was so she could commit offences against me in our home, and it could be called ‘healthcare’…. or gaslighting without the power.

    She did ‘turn’ on them though once she and others realised how they were making ‘alternative arrangements’ for my ‘healthcare’ with the side effect of stopping my ticker. Someone didn’t have the stomach for it.

    Of course such abuses would never happen because “they wouldn’t do that” I am told….. despite what I (and others who have been threatened and intimidated) witnessed. But the idea of being allowed access to effective legal representation is a joke in such a Therapeutic State (with Morality Policing). We have gone way beyond any Police State, with chemical and electrical solutions to our ever growing problems.

    https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/call-for-inquiry-after-mentally-ill-mum-left-to-die-in-nsw-mental-health-hospital-corridor-ng-b88474251z

    In Iran they protest such deaths by the Morality Police. In Australia they feign shock that such things are happening, and appropriate more money to do more of the same. Not much noise made about this womans death…. or the hundreds of others that seem to go unnoticed. In fact, an attempt to make a complaint about human rights abuses to the Minister is met with the response of “get treated” (veiled threats. Complaints about the levels of sexual abuse in hospitals explained away with “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” [see Hansards]).

    There is more chance of something being done if it were an animal. The penalties for abusing an animal twice what they are for a ‘mental patient’, and the laws relating to animal abuse have actually been prosecuted…. unlike the laws relating to abuse of a mental patient, which have NEVER been successfully prosecuted. Documents no doubt “edited” post hoc.

  • “If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event “it never happpened”,—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death” Orwell 1984

    “Or do they say, “He is possessed”? Nay, he has brought them the Truth, but most of them hate the Truth.” Holy Quran Surah al Mu’minun ayat 70

    I live in a place where the State is “editing” legal narratives to make what they prefer to be the truth, fact. They remove the human rights abuses of public officers and replace that version with their ‘due process’ preferred truth, and then viciously attack anyone who disagrees with them. In some cases having little ‘accidents’ with their ‘problems’.

    Sure I understand your skepticism on my truth (I’ve heard the “they wouldn’t do that” and “It never happened” justifications on many occasions) but do you think it might be best to check the facts first? What were the consequences of neglecting that duty? ewwwww ugly. I note they stopped counting with Dr Harold Shipman at just over 200. Police being the only people in town who didn’t know what he was doing. (I had a police officer tell me “It might be best I don’t know about that” when I explained how to harvest the morphine for the ‘job’)

    Okay, so Police retrieved the documents proving the arbitrary detention and torture before sending out the “edited” reality, and then I turn up with the ‘unedited’ version??? (to a lawyer who tells me “I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof”).

    Hypocrites abound when the State prefers a truth, and ‘advocates’ and ‘doctors’ are prepared to conspire to ensure that this is the only reality available. They will even utter with known forged documents rather than admit to the truth….. because their methods of arbitrarily detaining and torturing citizens (and “editing” them out of existence in the Emergency Dept should they dare complain and have the proof. We do have Euthanasia laws and ‘after the fact due process’ document “editing” services) is “not in the public interest”. An obvious cover to use ‘hospitals’ as places to conceal human rights abuses, and didn’t those who wrote the Conventions know it. Police providing the questions, and ‘doctors’ the chemical koshes and electricity to loosen the tongue (ala Frantz Fanons “elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'”)

    See, in my ‘faith’ ‘we’ believe that someone is always watching over us. The people concealing their vile conduct disguised as ‘medicine’ (easily done by making anyone you want to torture and kidnap into an “Outpatient” and calling police to ‘assist’) are actually the delusional ones. Which I’m sure they found out after they were so rudely interrupted when trying to execute their plan for an ‘unintended negative outcome’ in the E.D. Thinking that either no one was watching, or that those who were would support their breach of the commandment though shalt not kill…. except when it is convenient to do so, for the sake of a preferred “edited” truth.

    Noah was mad until it started to rain.

    I’m glad that someone took the time to ‘spot’ what ‘they’ were going to do to me for speaking the truth and not being a ‘patient’ before they ‘spiked’ me and subjected me to an ‘acute stress reaction’ and some vicious gaslighting. Because the criminally negligent public officers who have ‘alternative methods’ available to assist in their cover ups would have seen me dead, and the Coroner rubber stamping the ‘unintended negative outcome’ in the E.D.

    Sometimes not being skeptical is a choice best made while those who would threaten and intimidate your family do what it is they feel a need to do. The proverbial ‘blind eye’.

    But I take your point Mr Unger. My only means of survival was to become ‘someone else’…. to reinvent myself as the abuse I was subjected to by the State (“we’ll fucking destroy you” was the comment from the Public servant who ‘investigated’ the matters when I tried to complain about the offending) became increasingly unbearable (mock executions by Police, threats to rape my grandchildren ….. yeah yeah, I know “they wouldn’t do that” and “It never happened”. Hi to Martha Mitchell)

    They DID do that, and they simply concealed the motive for doing that by retrieving my medical records from me. Which brought a whole new meaning to the comment by our Fuhrer that “we’re all in it together” during covid lockdowns.

    Man plans, God laughs.

  • In defense of the police, the people who are calling them for ‘assistance’ have a tendency to over state the threat posed by the person they wish to have incarcerated and force drugged.

    So in my instance they planted a knife on me in case police felt a need to shoot me as my behavior after being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs was an unknown. The Community Nurse ‘verballing’ a threat to cause police to feel apprehension rather than have them at ease.

    The use of police as a weapon by mental health professionals not even given a mention in the article above. I mean consider the man in this video who, after being labelled ‘mental patient’ can be forced to comply with the wishes of the nurse who called police to have him ‘helped’.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=4s

    Now consider this as a means to arbitrarily detain (the nurse need only tell police he is an “Outpatient” and would not be held to account for that offense [create a false belief] should it not be “edited” out of documentation post hoc) and torture citizens, and then have them ‘snowed’ (the induced coma spoken about by the journalist) should they complain, while the documented legal narrative is “edited” to ensure that the after the fact due process was followed? Imagine that the man in the video could be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs before being subjected to this form of ‘help’ and the date rape drugs would become his “regular medications” once he was incarcerated in the Emergency Dept and subjected to hours of questioning…… and your government and Chief Psychiatrist doesn’t see a problem with this occurring?

    Imagine a Corruption watchdog that only has hearings in secret because it may cause “reputational damage” to the people doing these sorts of things? Which are, after all “not in the public interest”….. and journalists will be charged should they publish anything without State sanction. An integrity watchdog with no integrity because the Federal Government wishes to follow suit with the ‘cover up’ bodies enjoyed by the States?

    The fact that our ‘hospitals’ are being used for purposes other than designed certainly not something our elected representatives want exposed to the ‘disinfectant of sunlight’.

    I note that Amnesty Int. speaks about the problems for indigenous youth in the Police State….. and seems to prefer the methods employed by the Therapeutic State concealed as ‘medicine’ and removes any comments pointing out the facts related to the use of ‘chemical’ solutions to problems faced by the State.

  • “Despite frequent brushes with the law, I was fortunate to be placed in mental health facilities instead of jails.”

    I’d be having a serious think about that statement Larry.

    “Who knows why we were taught to fear witches, but not the people who burned them alive” (author unknown)

    That one too if you have the time.

  • Just so I am clear about all this ‘confidentiality’ issue. (and keep in mind I speak in the Australian context)

    A Private Clinic where psychiatrists produce legal-medico reports for the Courts, (and has clients that include the wealthiest man in the country, and politicians accused of corruption) can employ a psychologist (with a Masters degree no less) who, in a situation where they have arranged to have the person who has had a report written by the clinic psychiatrist ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs (to incapacitate the ‘client’, though even this would be a misuse of the term given I wasn’t even a client) can then, if a Community Nurse calls her (as opposed to her calling the Community Nurse and requesting a ‘police referral’ with an “acute stress reaction” via the use of a ‘throw down’ knife and some cannabis planted once the ‘client’ has collapsed from the date rape drugs) release their medical records to the Community Nurse because the ‘client’ is not capable of consenting to that release of their confidential medical records?

    The Community Nurse can now justify any and all actions against his “Outpatient” (see what I did there? Chief Psychiatrist does it too, that is anyone snatched from their bed by mental health services automatically becomes an “Outpatient” even before being examined and then ‘verballed up’) because he has forged the Forms to enable Police to transport the person they have just beaten senseless because an “Outpatient” (or as a result of a ‘verbal’ a ‘violent psychotic drug abusing wife beater in possession of a knife’) needed an ‘assessment’ by a psychiatrist?

    One issue being that the Community Nurse is supposed to make the referral to the ‘treating psychiatrist’ of the ‘client’ at the Private Clinic (but that is just part of the smoke and mirrors), and not his own hospital where the Senior Medical Officer can sort the paperwork out and make the drugs use to ‘spike’ the ‘client’ into their “Regular Medications” and hopefully have them hit over the head with a chemical kosh before they are asked any questions by the Consultant Psychiatrist (questions such as’ How did you get here?’, and ‘Who is your doctor?’ or ‘What drugs are you taking?’….. as opposed to writing down the ‘billing codes’ released unlawfully by the clinic psychologist with a Masters degree no less, before silencing the complaints of the ‘client’. SMO writes in email to the Office of Chief Psychiatrist “He was breathing threats of litigation before I even spoke to him” No shit Einstein, I had just been tortured and kidnapped, and now he wants me to remove my clothes to insert objects into my mouth or anus without my consent? And is prepared to use force if necessary?)

    It’s much easier on the paperwork if the ‘client’ is dribbling in a cell when they are ‘assessed’. It saves having to pass on those written complaints, which can be thrown into the trash. (‘You want access to a pen? No can do, because the information about where they are kept is confidential’. Fortunate I kept my copy of a serious allegation of misconduct, whilst the hospital tried to cover their lack of records by asking me for a copy of the document they had disposed of and which may be required by the Commission, making it a serious offence to dispose of it. More ‘after the fact due process’ via “editing”)

    I’d have thought with such ‘confidential’ information, the Private Clinic would have been a little more careful about the methods being used to release that to the general public via the public hospital system….. especially given that this was one report of three, which were never tested in the courts for validity.

    So my ‘diagnosis for a purpose’ was unlawfully released for another purpose…… to smash my head in with chemicals and electricity for shit they made up on the spot.

    Nice, and I’m so glad I’m probably not the only one they have done this to. Because it just doesn’t seem to fit with the law. Well, unless you accept the rewritten version produced by the Chief Psychiatrist for the Law Centre, where he makes everyone into an ‘inpatient’ or an ‘outpatient’….. which means no-one has any human or civil rights……. which the lawyers I have approached seem to be quite content with (well there was that one who was concerned about me having the documents police failed to retrieve, who said “but I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof”….. which then became ‘that’ll be $3500 for telling you how expensive my time is, pay in advance’…… Which reminds me of the psychiatrist when I said these matters have made me suicidal….. ‘I’ll have to ask you to pay in advance’ “First, do no harm…….. to your bank balance”)

    Seriously though, the claim above is that psychologists are not bound by the rules of confidentiality, but to me this release of medical records from a Private Clinic which writes such legal-medico reports is lawful? We have a Federal Privacy Act which certainly has some issues but …….. psychiatric reports handed over because a Community Nurse called and asked for access?

    I know as matters progressed, and ‘alternative arrangements’ were being made for my ‘health care’, my wife did say there had been some problems at the Clinic she attended for a means to have me ‘talk’ (ie Torture for Dummies). But I had no idea it was a ‘library’ for anyone claiming to be a ‘mental health professional’ to access with a phone call. The Private Clinic psychologist even taking my medical records to her day job at the University counselling service in anticipation of the call from the hospital, once I had been ‘detained’.

    Anyone see the problem I can with this? They would if I said it was done in China. Not so much in a place with Euthanasia Laws and ‘after the fact due process’ via “editing” of legal narratives, and denial of access to effective legal representation.

    Australians value a Rule of Law ……… ?

  • It might explain though why a ‘therapist’ (with a Masters degree no less) is advising citizens to ‘spike’ others with date rape drugs and plant specific items for Police to find once they are called to ‘assist’ with causing ‘acute stress reactions’. Only ‘law enforcement’ would be aware of (as it was put to me) “what to tell them” (and what to plant to overcome the legal protections from acts of torture) The issue of changing citizens status to “Outpatient” before leaving the hospital still a problem, though one the State is prepared to ignore despite being presented with the proof of both the forging AND uttering by public officers.

    The more recent development of ‘mental health professionals’ available at every Police station no doubt a bonus. That will fix the problems of people exercising their rights to silence, bodily integrity etc…… Especially when they have a colleague at the hospital (like a real doctor) to write prescriptions for drugs administered without knowledge and minus any right to do so.

    The post hoc concealment of their offending will of course never be prosecuted because police will no doubt refuse to take the proof and find “insufficient evidence”, and the documents will be “edited” before
    being examined by anyone else, especially ‘legal representatives’. We did see this with one aboriginal man who was tortured by police and then taken to the E.D. for ‘treatment’ once they had broken his ribs whilst restraining him, and tazered him in the lower spine 15(?) times during ‘questioning’? The Corruption watchdog only releasing the video after significant pressure was put on them to do so ‘in the public interest’. (and they present matters of the same nature occurring in Ukraine as being ‘atrocities’? It’s different when the questions are asked in Russian apparently, a ‘cultural’ thing)

    It’s a shame our Police are not held to the same standards as our Football Clubs.

    Interesting question regarding the use of ‘therapists’ in law firms above. Clever way of getting around a certain set of issues cause by ethical requirements. Especially given the list of ‘exclusions’ in Mr Gottsteins article.

    It really does seem that ‘confidentiality’ is being so weaponized that it is difficult to even imagine a situation where the laws relating to “privacy” are even worth the paper they have been written on (and then rewritten without Parliamentary approval for convenience ala Chief Psychiatrist style of “suspect on reasonable grounds” becomes “‘suspect’ on grounds we believe to be reasonable”). Simply incapacitate the person you want to gain access to the records of, and then ‘reverse’ the direction of the telephone calls for a “they called me” defense. Worst case scenario, “edit” the documentation.

    What do you do when public officers and the victims legal representatives are the only ones who are aware of the existence of proof of human rights abuses? Slandering the person attempting to make a complaint is one method used in this State (Police releasing the criminal record of the aboriginal man they tortured before the release of the video causing significant damage to his reputation). They can deny their clients access to that proof and work with the public officers concealing their human rights abuses, and the ‘client’ would never know the proof was there……… and it could all be justified through a claim of confidentiality (you did after all sign the agreement…. allowing your ‘legal representative’ to conspire against you and conceal the torture you were subjected to right?).

    Conspiring to pervert the course of justice knowing the ‘client’ will never get access to the proof, and they trusted their legal representatives? Fools.

  • “It seems like the jest of the “myth” is what is diagnosed as “mental illness” according to current methodologies is nothing more than non-conformist, anti-social, immoral behavior according to Szaszism?”

    Mmmm I don’t think so, but there are people here who know his work much better that me who will no doubt respond.

    But speaking of ‘morality policing’ (justified because someone may have something we wished were an illness and would like to ‘treat’ them for it) I note a backlash against the ‘morality police’ (Gašt-e Eršād) in Iran as a result of a ‘death in custody’ of Mahsa Amini.

    https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/call-for-inquiry-after-mentally-ill-mum-left-to-die-in-nsw-mental-health-hospital-corridor-ng-b88474251z

    Oh wait, wrong news article. This one escaped any real public scrutiny because the Minister was ‘shocked’ to hear such things were occurring. Probably like our Minister, “you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”.

    Though the idea of protesting about such matters in this place seems …….. well, the use of microwave weapons by our police at protests to ‘burn’ people is discouraging to say the least (see the questions asked, and a refusal to answer by police at the Parliamentary Inquiry into protests about covid lockdowns)

    Talking about such matters enough grounds for an “Outpatient” to be ‘referred’ by police for ‘treatment’. And as you can see from the above article, you don’t want to be having your head beaten by mental health services. The ‘side effects’ can be quite severe, and in fact at times constitute the ‘illness’ they claim to be ‘treating’?

    “had been sedated with psychotropic drugs and fallen on at least one occasion, but failed to take appropriate action”

    Not everyone has the stomach for it, and I suppose this being the reason the Minister finds it easier to look away…. and then be ‘shocked’ when someone presents her with the proof which can not be “edited” for legal and public consumption. Be careful though, because making complaints can see you “fucking destroyed” once you have been “edited” and made into an “Outpatient” while the whole community looks away because they are afraid for their families.

    Few people aware of the amount of power handed to ‘mental health services’ by our ‘elected representatives’. Wear your Hijab.

  • “Interestingly, lawyers and clergy are privileged and are not members of law enforcement. But therapists are police. Most clients, I imagine, do not know that.”

    Lawyers? Paid informants for Police? I certainly know of some lawyers who are not being as “zealous” regarding ensuring the human rights of certain people are protected, instead preferring that legal narrative is “edited” before they make what is a ‘flawed complaint’ (with plausible deniability) to the relevant authorities…… and then ensuring that the ‘client’ is left making complaints to their colleagues about their disgraceful and vile conduct…. knowing it will go absolutely nowhere. In fact, our local “access to the law” pro bono program is funded directly by Police. How ‘elegant’. (no conflict of interest there right?)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Gobbo

    As I have said elsewhere, the whole ‘confidentiality’ and ‘privileged communications’ fell in Australia as a direct result of a High Court decision. If you can use “coercive methods” (I hope you understand what is meant by this term) on a persons wife/husband to have them testify or provide ‘evidence’ against them, does this not mean there are NO privileged communications? Lets not put it to the test, because it might be best that most ‘clients’ are not aware of that fact?

    The reason Vic Police can say with confidence that the Lawyer X situation will never happen again is because it has been decided that there is no client confidentiality. The reference I gave above to the “elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'” by Frantz Fanon has been deemed acceptable in Australia (despite the comments by the Appeals Court Judges) regarding the “fundamental and appalling breaches of EF’s obligations as counsel to her clients and of EF’s duties to the court.”

    This Machiavellian approach to these matters reminiscent of the ‘war’ waged by the French govt against their ‘enemies’ in Algeria. The paranoia of our ‘elected representatives’ being seen in the enabling of means of arbitrary detentions and torture under the Mental Health Act, and the problems associated with that concealed via ‘after the fact due process’ and “editing” of legal narrative ignored by ‘legal representatives’ whilst ‘alternative arrangements’ are made. (police telling me “it might be best I don’t know about that”) The refusal to take evidence/proof of criminal misconduct by public officers, and return complaints as having “insufficient evidence”? And doing ‘mental health referrals’ of anyone who has such proof? But things are terrible in China.

    And I don’t know that the ‘eavesdropping’ on the ‘confessional’ was invented by therapists. “Would you spy on your brother? Would you eat your dead brothers flesh? Nay, yeah would abhor it” The breach of trust and confidence known about some time ago (though quite a revelation, as you suggest)

    In fact, isn’t that why it’s called ‘the oldest trick in the Book?’? Getting someone they trust to poison them, because they would hardly ‘eat’ the ‘apple’ if it were offered by Satan himself?

  • I suppose in some ways it’s a rather crude means of enabling State sanctioned arbitrary detentions and torture.

    I note the mention of a similar technique in the writings of Frantz Fanon, that is the “psychiatrists who boasted in front of us of their elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'” (of the prisoners who had ‘confessed’ and all of whom were then guillotined p. 229 Wretched of the Earth).

    The victim is ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs (later to become their “Regular Medications”) and when they collapse, Police assistance is sought from a Community Nurse who tells them that the person who has collapsed as a result of the ‘spiking’ is his “Outpatient”.

    Once Police assistance has been procured, the victim can then have the knife and cannabis planted on them for police to find, much to the shock of the person who is now about to be woken at the point of a weapon, and acutely stressed.

    Police can then cause the required “acute stress reaction” with a vicious beating, and then immediately hand the victim over to the Community Nurse for a mental health ‘assessment’. This could consist of the questions police would like answered, but that they can’t ask because of the ‘spiking’ and ‘acute stress reaction’ actually constituting an act of torture. Though if it looks like ‘medical care’ we could then ……?

    So they have the Community Nurse ask the questions, and it appears to be part of some form of ‘medical assessment’. (where did you get the drugs? Did you make threats to harm so and so? Examples of such questions unrelated to any form of psychological assessment common, though done to obtain ‘leverage’ with the victims) The Community Nurse in my instance trying a number of tacks to have me confess to something in front of police, and then shifting when I asked to speak to a lawyer or my doctor or family member (even ensuring I could not get access to my daughters telephone number while they ‘cared’ for me.)

    Police can remain present whilst the questions are asked because they are merely ensuring the safety of the Authorised Mental Health Practitioner (from the violent, psychotic, drug abusing, wife beater, mental patient….. or at least they will be once the ‘verbal’ has been done), and not part of the ‘assessment’ process.

    Though police can rough the victims up a bit at certain points of the interrogation should the critical questions not get answered. Mock execution or a threat to have them pack raped in the cells both techniques considered ‘coercive’ and NOT acts of torture, but merely a “poor choice of words” to quote the Police Commissioner, and rightly so. One party aware they aren’t really going to do it, the other in a more vulnerable position not so sure…… and therefore a little acutely stressed.

    Once Police have the answers they wish, the Community Nurse can then ‘verbal’ the necessary Forms (that is fabricate a statutory declaration with vague statements which don’t meet the standard set out in the Oaths, Affidavits and Statutory Declarations Act), and have Police transport the victim to a hospital where a waiting Doctor can observe their response to being subjected to torture, and have them ‘chemically restrained’ for their ‘agitation’.

    The only real problem is concealing the ‘spiking’ and the lie to Police regarding the status of the citizen contained in the documents (this is where the ‘confidentiality’ of the citizen becomes important to the hospital administrators). Both of these offences easily concealed from someone who is now being ‘treated’ as a ‘patient’ (despite the law clearly stating they are a “referred person” until the psychiatrist removes their right to consent. Like your going to complain in the locked ward and risk the blow to the head with the chemicals? That and the 4 weeks of dribble therapy and incarceration which follows?)

    This same doctor can also write a prescription for the date rape drugs administered without the victims knowledge 12 hours before their interrogation by the Community Nurse and Police. It doesn’t matter that they had no knowledge of the victim before the drugs were administered covertly, they would have given permission for them to be administered anyway, a mere formality. Police, nurses and bus drivers now preferred prescribers for covert administration of date rape drugs.

    Should the victim actually not end up being given the ‘dribble therapy’ (chemical kosh) ordered by the doctor before they are ‘assessed’ (“Agitation and Arousal” medication sheet) by the Consultant Psychiatrist (who in most cases would be examining someone unconscious with enough anti psychotics to lay an elephant out for a week) and released because there was never anything wrong with them other than the result of the ‘spiking’ and the ‘acute stress reaction’ then the documents can be “edited” before they are examined by the victims ‘legal representative’.

    As I say, it’s crude but effective. The ability to make any citizen into an “Outpatient” after they have been incapacitated with the date rape drugs, and then use police to cause the ‘acute stress reaction’ to have the victims talk when they might otherwise (a) not take the stupefying/intoxicating drugs willingly, and (b) would not answer any questions without having effective legal representation (or a family member acting in their interests, ie next of kin) present is effective in a number of ways.

    Police can claim that all they were aware of was that they were to ‘restrain’ a mental patient in possession of a knife and illicit drugs, and the Community Nurse can then use Police to have the victim delivered to his hospital and claim to his colleagues that he has merely done a ‘police referral’ (rather than have them become aware of his means of torturing and kidnapping citizens, and fabricating the justification on his Forms with the corrupt practice of ‘verballing’).

    The FOI Officer did pick it up what the Community Nurse had don when I made application for the documents. She then called the person who had ‘spiked’ me and they began conspiring to have me sign documents that would make me into a ‘patient’ post hoc, and concealed the evidence/ proof of the offending. Their “editing” of legal narrative and trying to retrieve the documents I had already obtained via FOI showing the ‘spiking’ and that I had been made an “Outpatient” before they even left the hospital (though I note concealing the fact they had no referral source, and that their ‘preferred guardian/next of kin wasn’t actually the person who had ‘spiked’ me for their convenience).

    The response to these matters by the Chief Psychiatrist in his letter are very interesting. I mean given the availability of such methods when asking questions of our Politicians in Parliamentary inquiries etc (they totally unaware they are “Outpatients” or what their “regular medications” are that is put into their food or drink without their knowledge……… and that the Chief Psychiatrist is oblivious to the criminal nature of such conduct…… removing the protections of “reasonable grounds” , and requiring only a ‘suspicion’ for detention by a Community Nurse (and his chosen ‘police’)

    So whilst they only wanted to ask me some questions about the family conflict which had upset my wife, and was resulting in me leaving my home due to the threats from her family, this could be put to some better uses with people who have a tendency to not want to answer the questions they are asked (see for example the avoidance of a question to the Minister for Health when I asked him about the possibility of this document “editing” ‘after the fact due process’ and his new Euthanasia Law ‘protections’).

    I mean it’s not like those who have been ‘assisted’ under such laws are going to be in any position to be making complaints, and their chosen ‘legal representatives’ and family members are not going to even see the documents before they are “edited” to create the preferred legal narrative so…….? Where there’s a will,…….. there’s relatives.

    Note that one of the benefits of commissioning these offences is that the medical records of the person who has been incapacitated can now be released because they can’t consent to their release, and it is an ’emergency’. The law does cover such situations in that you can’t commit an offence (intoxication by deception. stupefy with intent) to make what was unlawful appear to be lawful but …….. whose going to complain? The person who is now being ‘treated’ for their complaining with unwanted brain damaging chemicals and electricity 3 times a week?

  • Nice Mr Gottstein,

    Confidentiality is a farce in Australia, and there are those that know it, and those that don’t.

    An example; I attempt to access documentation showing criminal misconduct by a Community Nurse……. and a Law Centre makes an application for unredacted documents which they have a right to inspect upon provision of a ‘confidentiality agreement’ (the documents are to be provided unredacted with the areas not to be released to their client highlighted and a reason given. In my instance the two areas were that I had been labelled an “Outpatient” before the Community Nurse called the Police to ‘assist’ him in causing an ‘acute stress reaction’ [a crime under our criminal code. Procure the apprehension or detention of a person not suffering from a mental illness 3 years prison.] AND that I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs to incapacitate me, and enable a weapon and some cannabis to be planted on me for police to find. Long story, but they wanted it to look like a Police referral due to a lack of a right to make a lawful referral) As you can imagine putting in writing that they would like my ‘legal representatives’ to remain silent on these offences would……. you get the picture, careful what you put in writing.

    So the hospital did what they called “editing” which consisted of changing the legal narrative to suit the story they wanted the documents to tell. Included in these documents was some particularly embarrassing information which had been dragged out of an archived file, and included in such a way as to release that information for no other reason that to character assassinate. Not that this wasn’t expected, when I pointed out to the person who did the “editing” that what she was doing was criminals she made it clear that the State would “fucking destroy” me and my family….. which they have.

    This all water under the bridge though….. I manage to survive the vicious psychological assault on me, and still happen to have the documents which Police were charged with retrieving before the “edited” set were sent to the Law Centre. A bit silly leaving someone with documents demonstrating that you have provided fraudulent legal narrative to a lawyer (unless……. long story too).

    However, in that time between me escaping the Police chasing me for the documents and me then turning up in a Police station with them….. (“your not meant to have these” “I could arrest you for having them” and a failed referral to mental health for my “hallucinations” because a psychologist had seen the documents and it isn’t a “hallucination” to claim you have been ‘spiked’ when you have documented proof of the event)….. major problem because the ‘cover up’ had already been done and here am I with proof of the cover up trying to access the protection of the law, while they are trying to hand me over to mental health to finish the ‘job’ of silencing me.

    Point being that the psychologist who has told police when I turned up in their station with the documented proof of the ‘spiking’ (and arbitrary detention) and they had tried to have me referred, later claimed that the telephone call I had with him from the station “never happened” (it was obvious he was lying and we both knew it, mainly because he said he was afraid for his family. A favorite tactic here to go after peoples families).

    The significant point here though was that this psychologist then began asking me questions for the police “Who else has got the documents?” Now I understand from your article that there are many varied situations where these people are breaching the trust and confidence of their clients’ (in fact in Australia I think that as a result of Lawyer X/Nicola Gobbo and High Court decision 47 of 2010 ACC v Stoddart “no spousal privilege in common law” the whole confidentiality notion is an absolute myth believed by the public, and known by others to be fantasy), but is it the case that the Police in pursuit of perverting the course of justice, and obstructing justice (ie covering up for ‘doctors’ up to mischief in the hospitals) should be allowed to use such therapeutic relationships to gain access to information they would otherwise not gain access to? I mean I get it that they are falsely calling people “Outpatients” and this opens up a world of opportunities for them in regards what can be done to citizens and concealed as ‘medical care’ (the chemical kosh, electricity, and well, sadly many don’t survive. Need more money for mental health and more legal powers for ‘early interventions’)

    I ask this because they also had to have someone break into my ‘home’ and steal my laptop to find out who else I had been communicating with and who may also have viewed the documents which were of such concern to certain individuals, the people who are “editing” legal narratives and creating after the fact due process document sets, and concealing human rights abuses and criminal conduct by public officers..

    The Police would have found it difficult to apply for a warrant to search my property given they were concealing crimes for criminals, and assisting to make it look like ‘medicine’. Not leaving a paper trail when your providing material assistance to criminals a fairly good idea, given the difficulties caused when your “editing” goes awry.

    So not only is confidentiality being breached in ‘good faith’ situations (as in your article), it is being used to obtain information to conceal public sector misconduct, and criminal offences by police when they are asked for assistance with an “Outpatient” (that is anyone who a Community Nurse calls them and says is an “Outpatient”. No need for a psychiatrist, a diagnosis, or anything else, just he wants the person snatched out of their bed and interrogated whilst stupefied without their knowledge with date rape drugs [later to become their “Regular Medications”. Once the documents are “edited” it all looks legit and the victims are being “fucking destroyed” for complaining)

    I understand that the UN Convention against the use of Torture hasn’t been ratified by the US so you may not be familiar with the Articles. There is meant to be a mechanism whereby citizens can make a complaint about being tortured without reprisals against them their families or witnesses. This mechanism doesn’t work because the ‘treatment’ for complaining about being arbitrarily detained and tortured is to be ‘treated’ by the people who arbitrarily detained and tortured you. See the above re the Police flagging’ complainants for referral should they attempt to access the protection of the law.

    Have you ever heard of such things? I know it sounds crazy and well, there are criminals who have tried to make it look that way, and in some ways they’ve done a good job. Police using psychologists to obtain information to conceal crimes for criminals? If you’d have seen the Senior Constable go pale when he realised what he had on his hands lol…….. a ‘restructuring’ for him, and another failed ‘unintended negative outcome’ for me.

  • How on earth do you sleep at night?

    I’d be really careful saying such things about these ‘inquisitors’ knowing that they can order a “Home visit with Police” (arbitrary detention with forged documents [‘verballed] for others to utter with should their be any problems) and an “acute stress reaction” (torture to have you open your mouth to put words into it). And the complaints process which results in an “unintended negative outcome” would ensure your “observable behaviour” (which is all that matters according to our Chief Psychiatrist, despite it not being possible for the ‘referrer’ to observe; ie it would require time travel and the ability to read minds) of publishing ceases.

    Really appreciate the article Doc. It has ‘cracked’ something for me with regards the ‘diagnosis’ I received from a Private Clinic to allow the Insurance Company to pay the bills. This ‘diagnosis for a reason’ then released unlawfully (Federal Privacy Act) to the people who kidnapped and tortured me, and who then used that ‘diagnosis’ as a justification for their “observable behaviours” and their “after the fact due process” fraud presented to the Law Centre with their “edited” documents. It’s quite a con, to Shanghai (Blackbirding) ‘patients’ you know have received large sums of money from a report done by the Private Clinic into the hands of a waiting Shock Doc for wallet and wealth extraction. Mugging them on their way out the door, and with State resources used to aid and abet? Police dispatched to retrieve the documents proving what I am saying, to ensue the “editing” could also not be proven. That and the little ‘woopsie’ that was rudely interrupted in the E.D. by someone who “doesn’t have the stomach for it”. Sounds insane? It’s meant to Martha Mitchell……

    The Minister for Health not having any concerns about this type of “editing” to make what was clearly criminal misconduct into what he would like to believe was a ‘lawful referral’ (I did ask if this type of “editing” would be possible with the Euthanasia Act he had just bulldozed through Parliament, his response was ‘get treated’) This type of criminal uttering with known fraudulent documents difficult to have anything done about when you are denied access to effective legal representation based on the fraudulent narrative that you are someone’s “Outpatient” (but we can’t tell you who your doctor is because of confidentiality [Shine Lawyers])

    I might just quote you on some of this;

    As Szasz stated for many decades, “mental illness” is the ideology used to justify a myriad of crimes against humanity in which people who have not been afforded due process and convicted in a court of law for a specific offense and imprisoned for years, tortured against their will, and released only if they agree to continue to take “chemical straitjackets” once they are out.

    My crime? Being an anti psychiatrist (having read Szasz in the early 1990s) and speaking to a ‘therapist’ whose husband is a Shock Doc. My claim, when she tried to ‘groom’ me into the ‘treatment’ knowing I had been ‘paid out’, that I could do the same to a ‘patient’ with a ball peen hammer, but it just looks a little more brutal drawing the response of “my husband is a psychiatrist”, AND refusing to pay the ‘fee’ for ‘treatments’ once I had been paid by the Insurance Company (Money no doubt the ‘therapist’ considered her husbands right to extract from me with electricity after I had been ‘referred’….. that is arbitrarily detained requiring torture due to my refusal to speak to her [a right I actually had given she was not MY ‘therapist])

    As you can imagine such blatant abuses need to be concealed from the public as it is not in their interest to know what forms of abuses are being enabled by the negligence, fraud and slander of ‘mental health services’ (most of the abuses I suffered coming not from psychiatrists, who could find nothing wrong with me, but from others concealing their abuses with the ‘diagnosis’ which had been unlawfully released from the Private Clinic).

    The ability to label anyone in the community an “Outpatient” after they have been incapacitated with date rape drugs (which become their “Regular Medications” post hoc), and then request the assistance of Police with your “Outpatient” to have them open their mouth and put words into it to produce the forged documents with which to utter resulting in this type of conduct often called ‘care’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=1s

    Imagine the power that comes with being able to drug him without his knowledge with date rape drugs BEFORE inducing an ‘acute stress reaction’ (resulting in a need to hit him with the chemical kosh [induced coma]) in this fashion, and then make him into an “Outpatient” whose “Regular Medications” were prescribed by a doctor who he had never met until 12 hours after he was drugged?

    “If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, it never happened—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death?” Orwell in 1984.

    The ‘after the fact due process’ via “editing” of legal narrative makes this more than possible. The ‘complaints process’ little more than a means to identify what needs to be “edited” in my State, with the denial of effective legal representation, or access to the protection of the law easily denied.

    So be really careful if you ever come to Australia. I know they claim people are not ‘treated’ for their political views but ……… it’s fairly easy to ‘verbal’ the Forms and forge a fraudulent narrative which would justify you being returned in the same condition as Otto Warmbier…… that is ‘cared for’.

    And I note that there were more than 27 identifiable ‘errors’ that occurred in the processing of my FOI application…. all with a negative consequence for me. Imagine the statistical probability of that? 27 X 26 X 25 X …….. and then I find out I’m not the only one? I’d be suspicious (as opposed to the “suspect on reasonable grounds” standard removed from law by our Chief Psychiatrist. Care to see the letter?) if that wasn’t the justification for incarceration and forced drugging/electricity.

  • Hi Gilbert

    “Benzos and non-benzos like Zolpedim cut a persons life span by at least 10 years- so that is calculated in issuing a policy.”

    So these are similar to the ‘real estate cancer maps’ held by the insurance companies? Obviously access would not be made easy, but such ‘evidence’ of the shortening of life would cause some significant problems for those claiming they are ‘first doing no harm [caveat; to their own bank balances]’

  • Actually, I think i’ve figured it out.

    Given that the Chief Psychiatrist has made everyone in the community into a “patient” (either an Inpatient or and Outpatient) this means that all of our Politicians are by definition “Outpatients” and therefore lack insight into their own conduct.

    Thus, the Chief Psychiatrist can rewrite the laws they have passed without their approval, remove any and all protections afforded by those laws, and has no need to inform them that he has done so. Should they complain they will be ‘treated’ for their ‘illness’.

    The situation was similar when I failed to recognise me not being an “Outpatient” of the hospital who arranged for police to snatch me out of my bed after I had been ‘spiked’ with my “Regular Medications”. Drugs I didn’t even know I had been prescribed, by a doctor which my lawyers can’t tell me the name of because of ‘confidentiality’ (so much for Erin Brockovich’s Law Firm)

    Whilst the laws create the appearance that I had a right to access the documentation relating to these events, and a right to effective legal representation, this is simply not the case, because the laws passed by our Outpatients in Parliament don’t really count.

    What matters are the “observed behaviours” of the ‘patients’ when they are being beaten by police, and then documented on the Forms which don’t really matter either, despite them being the equivalent of sworn court testimony. There is no need for ‘reasonable grounds’ because those grounds are whatever the Chief Psychiatrist says is reasonable. And that can be “tomato”.

    Hence there is no need for him to report suspected misconduct either (despite it being mandatory), because he simply never sees any ‘reason’ to actually report to the Outpatients at the Corruption watchdog. The bar now set so high he never has a need to report to those ‘patients’ who wouldn’t understand the law anyway because he has rewritten it without informing them.

    Who would have thought that the One Eyed man would be King huh? Our Chief Psychiatrist has usurped our government by making everyone “patients” due to their lack of insight.

    I note that the hospital FOI Officer plays little games (gaslights) with the “patients” by providing them with “edited” documents and conspiring with their ‘guardians’ to conceal criminal misconduct in much the same manner. The law simply of no consequence when you can deny access to effective legal representation, and force treat anyone who disagrees with your “edited” reality.

    Best they don’t allow the “Outpatients” in the Courts to examine the evidence/proof of their criminal misconduct, given their inability and lack of insight into the world of their unelected Emperor. How could they possibly be perverting the course of justice when it has been dismantled and replaced? “You can’t listen to them, they’re “Outpatients”.

  • “There’s not much you can do about people who insist on calling you “mentally ill”, especially those who work in the “mental illness” system; it’s all they know, so trying to convince them otherwise is a waste of time.”

    This made me smile given the way the Chief Psychiatrist considers the whole community to be “mentally ill”. They’re either people who are in the hospital for their ‘illness’ (Inpatients), or those who aren’t in the hospital for their ‘illness’ (Outpatients). This saves having to worry about the subtleties of the law which actually allows people to retain their human rights when NOT being treated by a psychiatrist. Sometimes called ‘citizens’ in places like North Korea or Iran.

    Being able to dispatch police to ‘bring in’ an “Outpatient” at your leisure a comfort enjoyed by our ‘mental health professionals’ (including nurses). And who said that the Chief Psychiatrist was leaving his service of the Royal College of Psychiatrists behind when he left as their President?

    I’m sure psychiatrists have gained more from his neglecting his new duties (that is protecting “consumers, carers and the community”) than they ever did from him as President of their guild. The removal of legal protections from the Mental Health Act (without Parliamentary approval, something one would expect in a ‘democracy’) instrumental in enabling arbitrary detentions and forced drugging with after the fact due process via document “editing”. Something not possible in his previous role.

    Unless he didn’t actually write that letter, which would mean……. someone forged it? Might explain why nothing gets done because ………they prefer the forged legal narrative and went with that, meaning their uttering would be exposed. And we simply can’t have that when it is easier to maintain the lies.

  • “I found your defense of psychiatric drugs smug and self-serving.”

    You’d have loved our ex Minister for Mental Health then Ann.

    When asked about a report where nearly 50% of women who had been in mental hospitals claimed they had been sexually assaulted, she stated that “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” (in the Hansards).

    Quite a different response to allegations made in the Parliamentary environment though.

  • I return to this article after doing my obligatory reading on Friday (al Kahf, The Cave)

    I was interested to read about some of the ‘rules’ relating to ‘guardianship’ in that Chapter.

    The story relating to the education of Moses by Al Khidr;

    77. “So they moved on until they came to the people of a town. They asked them for food, but the people refused to give them hospitality. There they found a wall ready to collapse, so the man set it right. Moses protested, “If you wanted, you could have demanded a fee for this.””

    and on the parting of their ways, the explanation of the conduct is provided;

    82. “And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the city, and under the wall was a treasure that belonged to them, and their father had been a righteous man. So your Lord willed that these children should come of age and retrieve their treasure, as a mercy from your Lord. I did not do it ˹all˺ on my own. This is the explanation of what you could not bear patiently.”

    It seems that the wall may be ready to collapse once again, as a result of the grubs who are digging under it to remove what is not theirs to take. Note the refusal by al Khidr to charge a ‘fee’ despite having a right to? There are a few such references I can find, and those who find means of whittling away the ‘treasure’ owned by others will no doubt be dealt with in due course.

    I think that there is a saying about such ‘guardians’ which seems quite appropriate in the absence of an effective legal barrier (the wall).

    “While the Cats away, the Mice turn to Rats”

    Good luck in having someone honorable rebuilding the wall and protecting the assets of those who are at present being subjected to such legal abuses.

    After being charged thousands of dollars by a lawyer (who thought I was mad) for telling me how expensive her time was (and little else), I can appreciate how such abuses can occur. The ‘complaints process’ likely to get you ‘referred’ to a ‘friendly’ psychiatrist for ‘treatments’ against your will. Which can also see you charged a ‘fee’ incurred without your consent I note, though usually only until the insurance runs out or your wallet is empty.

  • “Before they even start their training to become psychiatrists, they will have had to come to terms with the fact that unavoidably negative outcomes will occur in the practice of medicine.”

    What I had one Prof. describe to me as not ‘having the stomach for it’? Or did he mean the more deliberate type of ‘accidents’ which tend to happen to people wandering around with proof of offending by public officers which the police conveniently refuse to take, and deny access to the protection of the law whilst ‘alternative arrangements’ are made by ‘doctor’? Conceal your crimes by making the victim an “Outpatient” then ‘negatively outcome’ them in the E.D.

    Yes, my ‘paranoid delusions’ which were patently apparent once the documentation relating to my ‘referral’ had been “edited” and the fact that I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs removed, and the problem of me not actually being an “Outpatient” when police were called for ‘assistance’ with the person who had a knife planted on them to cause an ‘acute stress reaction’ had magically disappeared.

    Nothing like telling police that a mental patient with a knife needs to be restrained to get them on edge huh? And it is a really good way of getting people to open their mouths so you can put words into it. Nobody really concerned about the means to an end…… that is a chemcial kosh and years of forced treatments based on the sickness caused by the drugs, which cause the symptoms required to justify the forced treatment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    And further, that such “negative outcomes” can be arranged, and the State will enable ‘after the fact due process’ via document “editing” of legal narrative to occur to conceal any motive for harm, and ensure that no one is ever held accountable for anything…… even ‘intended, unintended negative outcomes’ (you can’t prove the motive, and have no way of making us talk, so police will not pursue the matter as it is not in the public interest….. or more correctly not in the interest of the people using the ‘outcoming’ service).

    “A good end can not sanctify evil means [ie lying, even the noble type of lying such as ‘verballing’ See Plato], nor must we ever do evil, that good may come of it” W Penn. My addition in brackets

    Your quote from Luke interesting if you consider the Islamic perspective on what he is talking about, and add a “tehe” to the end (Those silly Romans). And to quote another of the SciFi writers Robert Heinlein;

    “When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to it’s subjects, This you may not read; This you must not see; This you are forbidden to know, the end result is tyranny and oppression no matter how holy the motives.”

    It is good to see the authors ‘taking it up’ to some of the more blatant ‘zealots’ in the ‘industry’.

  • You know Ms Holzman,

    THE most validating statement made to me about all of this came from a psychiatrist.

    I had explained to her over a period of a year what had occurred and we had some ‘stouches’.

    In one instance I had pointed out the way the lie about me being a wife beater had been fabricated to create the risk required by the Community Nurse (as required under the “Persons who should be made involuntary patients” clause. The “reasonable grounds” removed by the Chief Psychiatrist).

    Now I admit my wife may have lied about this to the ‘hospital’. But it was known to me that the Community Nurse was a ‘verballer’ who had put words into my mouth to defraud with his statutory declaration, so why would he not put words into her mouth also?

    I know it wasn’t true, and I know my wife vehemently denied the claim (the hospital only releasing the information when it would cause problems in our marriage).

    The psychiatrist though, said my wife was so afraid of me that she couldn’t tell me. I mean how poisonous is that? Here was me living with someone who I had adored for years, and now I am being told that all that love we shared was only as a result of the terrorist tactics I had inflicted on my wife, whilst living right next door to my in laws.

    The point being that I think she realised what a poisonous statement it was to make.

    The validation came from me suggesting that her colleagues were not necessarily being as honest as they perhaps should be. She pointed out that they weren’t her “colleagues”. And the statement was made in such a manner that made me realise that she recognised that these were abusers who were using the cover of her profession to conceal their abuses.

    Though I guess from what I have observed that the removal of such people is not possible…… they need to embrace the cancerous growths within their own organisation, and allow it to spread to other areas. They put a band aid over the skin cancer and move on, preferring the power of prayer to the pain of having the surgery to remove the growth.

    And I suppose I should admire such faith that the “character flaws” of these abusers will correct itself….. eventually…… after a lot of others have been harmed, or maybe even suffered a serious side effect such as their heart stopping.

    Truth and recognition of that truth is what I feel is needed to ease the trauma inflicted deliberately by the State (or more correctly their representatives). But the imbalance of power means they simply don’t have to speak the truth…. and can tell anyone who does to “get treated” (this being the response by the Minister to my attempt to access my right under Article 13 of the Convention against the use of Torture)

    The ‘Church’ will survive no doubt, and they will no doubt need to find better means of concealing the abuses they are enabling with their threats, negligence and fraud. Honesty and integrity not their strong points.

    And it is when the possibility of abuses is present and they think no one else is looking that the test of their hypocrisy is strongest.

    I say put a band aid over the cancerous growth, and ignore it. The denial with “they wouldn’t do that” and “It never happened” will no doubt contribute to the demise of the professional standing of the good people within the ‘industry’.

    So busy checking the right of people to live their own lives and make their own mistakes and learn from them (Morality Policing), they have forgotten all about the Folie a Deux they have clearly regressed into.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDOe7Npinl4

    Librium, Valium, anti depressants and a Barbiturate……

  • Permission denied.

    Part of the process of the State authorities is to isolate anyone who does have a valid complaint, and as I was told quite openly, they will ‘fuking destroy’ you.

    I must say I find it quite a test that THEY have actually been put through.

    Has no one ever wondered what their own State would do if they found out that a small group had got together and found a means to subject citizens to arbitrary detentions and torture?

    Then disguise it as being ‘medicine’ with a little bit of document “editing” and ensure that their lawyers act as informants to allow them to be gaslighted? (see ACC v Stoddart HCA decision 47 2012? No spousal privilege in common law in Australia. Use of ‘coercive methods’ on partners enabled. Legal and other qualified privilege fall as a result? Lets not test it and inform the public, and just assume. “Lawyer X Nicola Gobbo can not happen again’ …. because now it’s been decided it’s lawful. Which explains the police using the psychologist to find out “who else has the documents?” They’re being used as informants for the State to do cover ups. And calling anyone who finds out ‘paranoid’. Very clever as E Hemmingway found out. The truth becomes an illness as in the Martha Mitchell effect.)

    I know what they did do in my instance, and it isn’t very pretty……. in fact obscene is the term I would use.

    Friends and family? I think my friends and family were more likely to stand by me in National Socialist Germany had I been Jewish. And I think many of the people here at MiA can attest to the power of being slandered by these labels that justify what would otherwise be rightly called acts of torture (the U.N. actually supporting this is some ways with their report into Mental Health Laws in Australia)

    So is it any surprise that a State which has subjected citizens to human rights abuses would seek to bring their victims within the powers of the Mental Health Act and then ‘fuking destroy’ them? And who would stand up for such persons? Their families? Friends? They could ALL be made into “Outpatients” with a telephone call and subjected to forced treatments…….. how do we know this? It was done to me.

    Advocates? They are part of the problem, throwing their ‘clients’ under a bus for material gains and promotions (did you know the Chief Psychiatrist doesn’t need to be a psychiatrist? They could be a ‘Human Rights Lawyer’ Minister. Thank Christ she didn’t get appointed to that role, imagine the human rights abuses enabled by such a person who neglects her duty and enables document “editing” to pass ‘unnoticed’)

    How easy has it been for the State to change the legal narrative from ‘man spiked with date rape drugs, snatched from bed by police, and documents “edited” to make the matters appear lawful’ to ‘mental patient of 10 years claims to be being spiked with date rape drugs claims he was arbitrarily detained and tortured, and then someone rudely interrupted when they tried to sort it out in the ED after police refused to take documented proof’?

    There are laws to protect the whole community from such abuses (it actually part of the Articles in the Convention against the use of Torture, and the laws reflect those protections), but I can show you how and why they don’t work…… and it’s mainly down to the State enabling a compounding of offences and the ‘unintentional negative outcoming’ of anyone who complains, whilst their ‘support network’ is systematically dismantled.

    I did try and talk with friends and family……. and everyone was good with that, until it was found out I actually still had the documents proving what I am saying……. then the narrative that Boans was insane was no longer totally valid, and there was a need to keep ‘witnesses’ separated. Sure I had become ‘ill’ as a result of being subjected to these State sanctioned abuses, but the narrative is completely different once you recognise that this was as a result of the vicious attack on me and not the preferred narrative of some ‘genetic flaw’ (though the threats to harm my grandson based on that ‘genetic link’ to me, very effective in ensuring my daughter no longer supported me)

    Consider the situation where for example the divorce lawyer I had been speaking to, who thought I was mad, suddenly realised I actually had the proof of what I was alleging? (“I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof”) Woops, does ummm anyone know he still has these documents? And wasn’t his wife supposed to retrieve them before they sent out the fraudulent set to the Law Centre, who then acted based on that fraud?

    You really think the State is going to allow me to get together with the witnesses to all of this and start figuring out the means they have used to deceive all of the people who were actively involved? People who, in good faith, were trying to get me to attend the E.D. so that those concerned about the facts could arrange a little accident for me, and then tell my ‘family’ that they did their best but unfortunately….. and they saw my decline which they tried so hard to save me from.

    If i’m mad, then there is no need to look and you can maintain the “they wouldn’t do that” and “It never happened” defense…… but with the documents I personally think it might be best someone looks and checks because ummmmmmm….. how many had they actually done? Woops. And sure they looked alright, but can’t actually admit their negligence and cover ups….. they just do further covering up by uttering. And I mean, who is going to question people who have now passed Euthanasia Laws which allow document “editing” post ‘treatment’?

    If a psychiatrist can’t arrange a few ‘remotes’ to deal with personal problems caused by the criminal conduct of his partner…….and pick up a few bucks in the process……

    Personally I don’t need the gaslighting from ‘friends’ and ‘family’ to be honest. They simply did what they were told by the ‘authorities’ in the commission of their abusing of my human rights and defrauding of the community with their document “editing” to fabricate the false narrative they now continue to utter with.

    I’d prefer to die alone than participate in the systematic torture and murder of people based on some flimsy labelling such as ‘communist’, ‘homosexual’ ‘Jew’ or ‘mental patient’…. and whilst I understand that some of these ‘labels’ have been subjected to restrictions, there are means to get around the legal protections afforded these people who think they have rights.

    I think you might want to have a look at what a poisonous effect ‘mental health services’ has on the family structure, particularly when they get it wrong. They are ideally positioned to use the work of the ‘attribution theorists’ to maintain falsehoods which do more damage than good.

    In some cases allowing the likes of the Operations Manager to deliberately push people to suicide, and use their deaths to make claims for more funding due to their ‘failures’.

    Though I think that like the myth that the ‘allies’ went into Germany to save those in the ‘concentration camps’, the abuses which are occurring in these places they wrongly call hospitals are being enabled as a direct result of the profits which can be generated from the processing of humans considered disposable. The rather callous attack on me for not being the ‘patient’ they wanted me to be, and the total disregard for the laws designed to protect citizens from the well known abuses available to these ‘mental health professionals’ more than a concern for me anymore.

    I can’t even speak to a doctor in a place where I have paid taxes and worked hard all my life because of some corrupt public officers who prefer the forged legal narrative which has been exposed. So I can’t imagine my ‘health issues’ are going to be resolved. And denied access to help from my consulate, denied access to effective legal representation, and all of my property…… because I’d leave this place tomorrow given what I know about their ‘dirty little secret’ and the place I thought I lived in being a fantasy. Help each other in times of need? What sort of a sucker are you?

    You become an enemy of the State for having proof that there are criminals operating within the hospital system? Who would have thought. Minus the documents I would accept the slander they have targeted me with…… but with the documents there is probable cause, and it is only with criminal negligence that certain truths can be denied.

    MY friends and family wouldn’t have turned their backs on Jews in Germany….. so I guess that was all part of my ‘delusions’ that they actually were my friends and family.

    It does however appear that people are more than happy with these known abusers ‘caring’ for their vulnerable loved ones……… which does make me wonder every time I hear of another death, and how the documents will have to be “edited” to provide the legal narrative preferred by the State, and ensure that no one is EVER held to account.

    “Cash from Chaos”

  • Interesting Nick Drury.

    “Foucault cites panopticism as the turning point when we went from “sovereign power” to “disciplinary power” – [In the former the source of power is highly visible and the subjects of power highly invisible. In the latter the source of power is highly invisible and the subjects of power highly visible.]”

    Looking at our ‘political system’ you might think our Fuhrer has us in a ‘sovereign power’ type situation but…….. thanks to a High Court case revealing texts he shared with a media mogul, his exchange of laws for positive media has been exposed. The ‘guard’, and his colleagues, are being monitored in their roles.

    The ‘media’ having access to the information that the ‘guards’ do not wish to be published, can then hold that information over their heads in the manner of the sword of Damocles. One wrong move and ……….. there goes all the money you made from your ‘share portfolio’ and pay rises awarded by yourself. And the ‘guards’ in a position where they are “editing” reality before it escapes the ‘prison’.

    The abuses of human rights met with a denial they even exists should you try and access what was agreed to in the Convention (see the letter from the Chief Psychiatrist). It’s not torture when WE do it. And effective legal representation denied due to career opportunities available for throwing your clients under a bus and forging documents with which to utter.

    I often wondered what the next chapter of The Century of the Self (Adamm Curtis) would look like. I think ‘diabolical’ may be an accurate descriptor….. for now at least. I suppose at some point we will be hearing from Col. Walter Kurtz again……… “the horror, the horror” I don’t envy the kiddies who will have to take up arms in this type of environment.

  • “I am not, and never have been a Scientologist. I am not and never have been a fellow traveler. I am not, and never have been a supporter of, a member of or a sympathizer with any organization known to me to be, or suspected by me of being controlled or dominated by Scientologists”

    “Looking for an issue that would get him re elected, he seized on the fears of millions and launched the squalid campaign that became known as …….[anti Scientology]

    Its tactic, reckless and undocumented accusations against government employees.

    Intimidation bred audacity, and audacity fed upon itself”

    And when audacity means taking bold risks with fraud which harms the lives of others……..and the State finds the concealment of such acts of fraud simple because they can utter with forged documents and deny access to legal representation and “fucking destroy” anyone who dares speak the truth……….

    ‘They are the ones who have lost their souls, and what they have forged will leave them in the lurch’

    It’s a strange sort of slander though. Because no Scientologist ever slandered me with a mental illness label and then ‘fucking destroyed’ my life with the use of State resources for pointing out the way their offending and misconduct had enabled arbitrary detentions and torture. That and the “after the fact due process” (thanks to a recent MiA article) “editing” of legal narrative to conceal these human rights abuses.

    And in my State the current government is “totally obsessed with secrecy” which tends to be a symptom of tyranny and oppression. Their recruitment of thugs as police seems to be more about their own security, rather than defending the rule of law which the Chief Psychiatrist simply writes out of existence to enable human rights abuses.

    Once in a position where you can deny the community the protections afforded by the law, your going to need ‘staff’ to do the arbitrary detaining and torture (disguised as ‘medicine’), and the administrators to do the “editing” to maintain your good reputation against Scientologists.

    Did you know they are arbitrarily detaining people who throw petrol bombs at protests in China? Isn’t that a human right? You would know this if you read the Australian newspapers, though very little about the way people are being ‘treated’ in facilities they call ‘hospitals’ once their status is changed from ‘citizen’ to “outpatient” by a nurse, before calling police for ‘assistance’ with their now “Outpatient” who needs to be taken into ‘care’.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    And I guess I’m just envious of the way you are being silenced. In my country the methods of silencing are a little more vicious (‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and snatched from your bed by thugs with weapons for transportation to a locked ward for ‘treatment’ with a chemical kosh and electricity against your will because ….. made up illness and anasognosia/elutheromania), and tend to result in what are euphemistically called ‘unintended negative outcomes’. Care to examine the ‘raw data’?

    I might just take out a subscription to JAD just so I can cancel it.

  • “the panopticon was a prison designed by Jeremy Bentham in which the guards could see into the cells, but the prisoners could not see the guards. After a while the prisoners developed a habit of assuming the guards were watching.”

    Like Facebook you mean? That was Mark Zuckerberg.

    “As you correctly point out it makes for selfish narcissistic individuals.”

    Doesn’t matter what my character flaws are, as long as my ‘selfies’ are looking good for the ‘guards’. If not, i’m cancelled.

  • 009 – a License to Pill

    The Police were doing raids on Church services to check vaccination status and mask wearing here. All forgotten about now, though a policeman who tried to take his employer to court for discriminating against him for not being vaccinated failed…… setting such a legal precedent would mean the inability of the State to use force if the situation arises again. That is, with no real evidence or proof of efficacy, the drug companies want us all ‘jabbed’ (at a cost to the taxpayer yet to be determined).

    “One must wonder if the public will ever start listening to us, well researched, long time pharmaceutical ‘canaries in the coal mine’ … who’ve been warning about the criminality of big Pharma for decades?”

    I seem to have come across one of those Priest/Psychiatrist combos who have been doing a little institutional silencing Someone Else. Any advice you would give in having such a person appropriately ‘referred’ for his ‘character flaws’, and snow jobs for others who are providing protections to ensure he is kept well positioned to deal with any ‘complaints’?

  • It became “after-the-fact due process.”

    And here was me thinking that the “editing” of legal narratives after the fact to remove a persons human and civil rights was a uniquely Australian idea.

    Being able to make a citizen into an “Outpatient” to conceal arbitrary detentions and acts of torture is no doubt a favorite tool of the State where I live. ‘Spiking’ citizens with date rape drugs (later to become their “regular medications” once taken into custody and hit over the head with the chemical kosh and electricity) and then having police cause an ‘acute stress reaction’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    a means to ensure that no accountability is ever possible. Would you answer the questions of the people providing you with ‘care’ after this sort of ‘treatment’? And keep in mind this is available for ALL citizens, who can be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and made “Outpatients” with some document “editing” to make what your looking at ‘care’ or ‘assistance’. The “induced coma” being the ‘chemical kosh’ to ensure the ‘authorities’ have time to get the legal narrative sorted. And not a soul prepared to say “this is wrong” because …. well, their family will be “fucking destroyed” by the same State representatives who destroyed mine for having the proof of their misconduct.

    I note that the ‘extra judicials’ being enabled by the State became a problem as a result of our equivalent of RICO laws (joint enterprise) and this required the bulldozing through of a Euthanasia Act as a supplement to the Mental Hygiene Act.

    The problem faced by Himmler as a result of the report of Josef Hartinger into two deaths of ‘prisoners’ at Dachau resolved in the same manner as the State I now live in. If it wasn’t lawful to kill the Jewish prisoners, make it so it IS lawful.

    There is no joint enterprise when a public officer is doing something lawful, and the legal narrative can be “edited” post hoc to make it lawful with “after the fact due process” (commonly referred to as criminal fraud but the preferred term where I live is “editing” and the lawyers know what this means. Nudge nudge wink wink, say no more.).

    The problem was that as a result of the case of Corrina Horvath at the U.N. the crimes of public officers were seen as being the responsibility of the State, and not as put forward by the State the sole responsibility of the individuals. And what if public officers were committing acts of criminal negligence and fraud to cover up such crimes? For example refusing to take evidence/proof of offending and then finding “insufficient evidence”? There’s your RICO link.

    Consider the situation if a doctor came forward and made admissions to Police regarding ending the life of a patient (providing the murder weapon, the place the body was disposed, and a full and unconditional confession [usually the missing link for prosecution])….. the Police had to literally dig up the wrong body to ensure they found “insufficient evidence”, while they passed the Euthanasia Act (never discussed before the election, though we were told 87% of the public wanted the laws, though the evidence for that figure was never produced either. Solomon Asch conformity experiments says a lot about this method of having people believe others want something).

    Personally I’d like to live in a place where people aren’t being subjected to arbitrary detentions and torture which is later “edited” to be ‘mental health care’, and the ‘unintended negative outcomes’ are seen for what they really are, intended. But it seems even the US is having some issues in this regard?

    As a wise man once said to me;

    “Where there’ a will,……… there’s relatives”.

    And if doctors are being enabled to dispose of ‘family problems’ for a fee? And the documents will be “edited” by the State before any legal representative is allowed to examine the facts, and the courts simply accept the fraud? And Police are dispatched to retrieve any documents, and arrest people for having the proof of misconduct…….. I guess I really stand as proof that they have got all the bases covered. lawyers forging letters of response from the Chief Psychiatrist making the most bizarre claims that he can rewrite the protections afforded by the law and remove them? Authorising the administration of date rape drugs before interrogations by police and other public officers, and then make them the victims “regular medications” with a fraudulent prescription “after the fact due process style?

    And the defense of “they wouldn’t do that” and “it never happened” is rock solid when the public are living in fear of their ‘elected representatives’ and their hired thugs ensuring carte blanche and zero accountability.

    “Australians value a rule of law” (ex Prime Minister ScoMo) except when it doesn’t work for certain people, then they value changing it. or at least that’s what 87% of the public thinks, and no I won’t provide the data to prove that.

    Good article though, and a warning to anyone who may think the US is a place which doesn’t enable such human rights abuses. My wife and a clinic psychologist pulling each others hair out over who was getting my property and money, once the legal narrative was fabircated.

  • “It was a horrific tragedy, and possibly not an accidental one.”

    and I quote

    “Does that sound familiar to any of us?”

    🙂

    Of course, if no one looks at the unredacted documents, then they won’t see the motive, and if they don’t see the motive, then “they wouldn’t do that” and “it never happened” are perfectly reasonable responses to my claims regarding the events which unfolded in the E.D.

    I kind of knew what you meant Steve, but it does show the double entendre.

    I realised earlier today that by reversing the ‘redacted’ documents I was provided by the FOI Officer which caused all the problems between me and my wife, and that Police needed to get back before the “edited” version was provided to the Law Centre, it becomes clear what it was ‘they’ were REALLY trying to conceal. Turn the ‘cards’ over 180 degrees and it all becomes apparent.

    The rather nasty way they turned me against my own wife rather than allow us to figure out what they had done (shame she didn’t trust my legal representatives enough to tell them what had occurred…. though would they simply have tried to ‘outcome’ the pair of us?) ……… What God has put together, let no man (or woman) put asunder.

    It was for the benefit of the State in concealing arbitrary detentions and acts of torture…… smashing peoples marriages to pieces because of a need to conceal misconduct and keep criminals operating within the hospital system? Good news is I know I’m not the only one that knows what she has been doing in her position of trust (that is “editing” legal narratives and then poisoning peoples relationships to push them to suicide. Their families thinking it was the ‘illness’ or the lack of drugs.
    I wonder what the redundancy package from the State looks like?. Fortunately the State doesn’t do body counts when it comes to such corrupt public officers viciously attacking vulnerable people at a time when they find themselves isolated and alone. And they will tell you they did try to ‘help’, whilst stabbing you in the back repeatedly.

    Giving me the documents redacted, and showing the ‘spiking’ and the claim that my wife was calling me a wife beater behind my back (a lie she told me, which fitted with my reality that I had been a good husband that she didn’t want to leave) really caused some problems between us……… Cover those ‘revelations’ and leave only the stuff they redacted and you can see quite clearly the attempt to pervert the course of justice by the FOI Officer.

    The Community Nurse calling police and telling them I was an “Outpatient” of his hospital (a criminal offence) when it was clear from the other redactions that I wasn’t? Naughty naughty….. and there is the motive for a “horrific tragedy, and possibly not an accidental one”. Especially when the Private Clinic Psychologist wasn’t aware of exactly what was contained in the documents relating to her conspiracy with ‘others’. And could she afford to have Police look and see? Not while they thought I was an “Outpatient” …. but that window of opportunity was closing, and fast.

    Mind you, all of my friends would have been aware that it wasn’t what I would have done……. because one of the reasons I never took heroin was because of a needle phobia…. so had I died as a result of ‘morphine from an unknown source’ and the “edited” documents handed to the Coroner……. they also have families that the police could threaten so…….and now that we have Euthanasia Laws and the ability to “edit” legal narratives as FOI Officers in hospitals before anyone else gets to look?

    Schlachthof funf
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXNpWkOpe5A

  • “I believe he ended his life in a mental institution.”

    Always sketchy when these places are “editing” realities but,….. from what I remember, he died as a result of an infection caused after a beating by the staff of a mental institution.

    “Does that sound familiar to any of us?”

    Maybe, as long as I’m not going to be drugged and snatched out of my bed if I DO say I recognise the pattern lol A ‘conditional’ yes.

    Kind of bizarre looking back, that if I disagreed with my wife I had to go and have my decision confirmed at a cost of $200 a time, every time (she did want me to speak to the psychiatrist at $600 a time, but I said he was the pill man and what the fuk does he care about my decision to dislike broccoli for dinner? All that business was over when I left the service).

    Mind you, the family disagreement was about the right of the nephew to beat his girlfriend senseless in front of her children (after a night or two on the meth and gambling his, and his fathers, money away), and make threats to my wife. On these issues we disagreed. And there was nothing about the ‘assessment’ which wasn’t related to these issues, and why the fuk I have to be dragged out of my bed to speak to a psychiatrist about them still to this day eludes me. And there is nothing else in the documentation except the fabrications for others to utter with to conceal the offending.

    It must have been quite a blow to the ego of a psychologist with a Masters degree to know that my opinion of her was that she was like most of the 2nd year College students I had met. But with a psychiatrist as a husband, I guess taking no for an answer didn’t really enter the equation. The methods of arbitrarily detaining and torturing citizens exposed, and what they actually do when it is, even more interesting. Not just the “editing”.

    I’m not paying someone $200 a time to discuss if my decisions regarding how I live my life are correct. I didn’t survive this long by making reckless decisions.

  • True KateL,

    I had a friend who was released from the two hundred dollar hand shakers the day his insurance ran out. Sent home dribbling from the mouth with a bottle of anti psychotics, incapable of caring for himself. His sister threw the drugs away and he got better within a few weeks (though the long term effects seemed to stay with him)

    He cancelled all of his health insurances and was never taken captive again.

  • “I, myself, accept the Teachings of the Quran, but I don’t accept Islam.”

    “Islam is SUBMISSION to Allah. It’s not about CONTROLLING OTHER PEOPLE. It’s about CONTROLLING ONESELF.”

    You will then understand the ways in which they will try and draw individuals back to ‘their’ religion? I chose not to take drugs or drink alcohol, or eat meat from the swine…. so they put it into my food of drink without my knowledge. That failing, then perhaps torture will work?

    My own spiritual journey was never even discussed with the clinic psychologist, and I am unsure that even my wife was aware of what I was going through. I looked at the pictures of those people being ‘coerced’ at Abu Ghraib and found myself bringing years of self development together….. only to have it deliberately “fucking destroyed” for speaking the truth. Once again i refer back to the Book, they hate the truth.

    I don’t envy them their Day. Though the States maintenance of falsehoods means I remain imprisoned, unlike Bilal who was purchased and released from his torture by his ‘Master’.

    Beautiful music, it reminds me very much of the West African kora music.

    Wa alaykum Salaam Dan.

  • I find it fascinating the way that these ‘mental health professionals’ fabricate and manufacture a ‘good faith defense’ for much of their vile conduct.

    So for example, the Community Nurse in my situation is fully aware that I was NOT and “Outpatient”, though he had no valid referral source, so matters were arranged to create the appearance that he had obtained a police referral under the MH Act. I would suggest that knowing someone does not have a status of “Outpatient” but then lying to police regarding that fact makes the ‘good faith defense’ unavailable.

    In fact, I think that the FOI Officer was fully aware of that fact when she found a need to deny my lawful access to the documents showing that this defense was not available to the Community Nurse, and then further when they had a need to “edit” the legal narrative to conceal the relevant facts.

    And the prescription for my “Regular Mediations”? I think that it would have been quite simple for the Senior Medical Officer to establish what were my “Regular Medications” had I actually been an “Outpatient”. I think my medical records would have shown him that I was being prescribed these date rape drugs? Though I wasn’t actually an “Outpatient” and had he asked me about my medication regime he would have been provided with facts he preferred not to have. Is this someone attempting to defraud others who examined his fraudulent prescription for the drugs which had been administered without my knowledge in the commission of other offenses? If so, there is no ‘good faith defense’ available to him either.

    And the torture? Was this done in ‘good faith’? In the pursuit of a ‘good’ which was only obvious to those who felt a need to torture?

    It’s amazing how easily people with a motive to conceal criminal offending and human rights abuses can accept this ‘good faith defense’ when it isn’t actually available. With a little bit of “editing” it becomes available though, in the manner of compounding offences that is……… fraud to conceal acts of fraud, to conceal acts of fraud.

    I am assuming that the FOI Officer and the Operations Manager are fully aware of the damage they are doing to people with their compounding of offences, given the confidence in the threat to myself and my family made by the Operations Manager to “fucking destroy”. They have done this before, and have personally witnessed the damage they are doing with their acts of fraud with intent (aka minus any ‘good faith defense’)

    But “you can’t prove it Boans”…. and when I can, they send out police to retrieve the documents and rectify that situation, which results in the Law Centre then jumping in on the act…… “you can’t prove it Boans” well, actually I have some bad news there too, though fortunately Police are providing material assistance and ensuring that they don’t take the proof to find “insufficient evidence” and doing arbitrary detentions under the Mental Health Act rather than perform their duty….. though I’m sure that their fraud was in ‘good faith’ also? Oh that’s right, the person they did the ‘referral’ to, now claims “It never happened” as a direct result of threats to his family.

    Demonstrate the intent to defraud, and there is NO GOOD FAITH DEFENSE. But keep in mind that these people have the ability to “edit” documents that relate to any ‘little woopsie’ they have with your health, and which they can force on your as a result of their fraud in making you their “Outpatient” in good faith to enable the commission of the offences relating to your ‘outcoming’.

    It is clear to me now how the hospital administrators have attempted to fabricate a good faith defense with their own acts of fraud, using the fraudulent legal narrative fabricated by the Community Nurse and the Senior Medial Officer as their weapon. Police refusing to act based on a known fraudulent statement made to them regarding my status, and providing an opportunity for the criminals to sort their little problem out in the E.D.

    There are some pretty good defense lawyers around, but few who would be able to mount a defense based on the facts in this matter…. hence the need for “editing”, and denial of access to effective legal representation which has been given the full sanction of the State to conceal what was an arbitrary detention and acts of torture by both mental heath services AND police (though were police aware of the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs? The Community Nurse could answer that question easily, and demonstrate his ‘good faith’ in the process? Criminal negligence now a must in perverting the course of justice)

    Though do keep in mind that if what I am saying regarding the original matters is correct, then the State would need to examine my claims regarding the events at the E.D. and ……. they really don’t want people knowing they are enabling such methods to resolve problematic legal narratives which become difficult to “edit” out of existence.

    I must say I admire the absolutely filthy methods employed by the FOI Officer and the Operations Manager in laying their fraud at the feet of others. Not only did they conceal the criminal conduct of the Community Nurse and Senior Medical Officer, but they managed to create the appearance that their own fraud was the responsibility of the Clinical Director of the hospital. That fraud then handed on to the Law Centre who provided as much assistance as they could without documenting their criminal negligence, and forging of a letter from the Chief Psychiatrist.

    And there are questions being asked as to why these ‘mental health professionals’ are failing our community? Given these facts, I think you should be referred for an examination by a psychiatrist for even asking the question.

    And I guess we could take a vote on whether being ‘spiked’ and having Police cause an “acute stress reaction” is torture or not. Hands up those who say it isn’t……… and then be very careful about what you eat or drink in future, because the test is when it is done to you, THEN you can say that it isn’t torture.

    This concealment of human rights abuses as being in the best interest of the individual is clearly ridiculous. In fact I don’t even think such ‘treatment’ of individuals is in the best interests of the community either. These people are particularly dangerous, though it is highly unlikely they will ever be held to account because they are also a valued resource for the State. people who can torture and arbitrarily detain and then ‘outcome’ anyone who complains? And the State can deny any involvement via acts of fraud and the “editing” of legal narrative and deny access to legal representations? They’d be happy with such a system in North Korea AND it seems in Australia too. The Minister holding on to the falsehood that this was all lawful. Only if you maintain the uttering with the fraud.

  • References

    Surah al Mutaffifin (Those who deal in Fraud)

    Surah al Humazah (the Slanderers)

    Surah al Munafiqun (the Hypocrites)

    Various ayat (verses) relating to the concealment of truth with falsehoods etc)

    Whilst I can find Sections of our Criminal Code that deal with fraud and other various offences such as putting date rape drugs into peoples food or drink, these laws are of no concern when the documents which prove the offences can be “edited” by the State to protect criminals and keep them in positions where their offending may be of benefit to those within the State systems. Once “edited” more senior public servants then simply utter with the known fraud, and deny access to legal representation.

    So for example, whilst Australia has ratified the Convention against the use of Torture (and the Optional Protocols), the hypocrisy is that they are “editing” legal narratives and denying access to legal representation and intimidating and threatening witnesses DESPITE the Articles of the Convention strictly prohibiting such refoulment of victims. “They will take their oaths as a cover” 63:2, “They have made their ˹false˺ oaths as a shield, hindering ˹others˺ from the cause of Allah” 58:16

    In regards slander, the documents which were “edited” included some personal information I had provided in the strictest of confidence to a Social Worker, and other misleading documents which was highly likely to create a false belief in the reader. All released without my consent, though I have no doubt that other forged documents have also created the belief that I was an “Outpatient” when this is demonstrably false. And all done with the sole intent of doing severe damage to my character…. but no access to legal representation, a benefit to the State and their criminal colleagues.

    I can not begin to imagine any Imam being enabled in such acts when the Quran strictly prohibits such vile, punishable, conduct.

    Not a very good reference for the people at the Ariel Castro Memorial Hospital is it? Frauds, slanderers and hypocrites……. luckily people can be snatched from their beds after being ‘spiked’, because I doubt many of their ‘clients’ are willing participants in their abuses.

    Though I also note they tried to lock me OUT of the hospital when I turned up in my prayer garments (rather than my ‘pyjamas’ and delivered by Police stupefied without my knowledge)…… their paranoid delusions regarding Muslims possibly a result of the “gratuitous Islamophobia” being spouted by our Premier? Two Christian boys post on Facebook they are going to behead his family and they are acting like “Fundamentalist Muslims”?

    I also note the value placed on protecting his family, whilst my family are subjected to overt threats and intimidation to conceal human rights abuses and public sector misconduct (though I concede that there is a difference between threats of “fucking destroying” and beheadings. Both however threats, and those issued by the State more likely to be carried out I would suggest. Especially given the proof is there for all to see in regards my “fucking destruction” and that of my family. Without fear or favor huh?)

  • It can make it difficult to remember your name if you happen across a doctor whose motive may not be entirely ethical. Though I suppose with no ‘Chop Square’ like Jeddah, what else are you going to do with someone who has a propensity for violence towards others, and who has shown little possibility of rehabilitation? Or who is complaining about your criminal conduct and who can be picked up by police (who will provide a window of opportunity by refusing documented proof of offending) if you tell them that the person is your “Outpatient”?

    But then there is; an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind…… or the one eyed man King?

  • Hi again Dan,

    “Those guys, Boans and Dan, are really CRAZY to think that Psychiatry is like Boko Haram. Psychiatric is based on Science. It has NOTHING to do with Religion at all!”

    Opinions aren’t facts. So let them think you and I are crazy.

    I would draw your attention to the parallels made by Adamm Curtis in his Power of Nightmares (the Rise of the Politics of Fear)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK3wz-OyR1U&t=147s

    The comparison between the Islamist ideology of Sayeed Qutb and the economic theories of Milton Friedman are striking. The use of the ‘School of the Americas’ in Chile making Boko Haram look like a Punch and Judy show. This then running through to the neo conservatives and what has been called al Qaeda (which was a fabrication to bring charges against Usama bin Laden in abstentia for the 1998 bombing in Nairobi. The use of RICO laws wasn’t possible without an organisation.).

    It never existed, and yet despite this fact there are still people to this day who think there is an organisation called al Qaeda.

    Islamic State on the other hand does exist, and there is a very good movie called “Timbuktu” which gives an idea of how it works. And it works very much like psychiatry, with people who are straying from the ‘path’ (sunnah) being coerced to behave in a specific manner. There are no hard and fast rules per se, just a varying interpretation of the Quran and Hadiths. Not unlike ‘psychiatric diagnosis’, where the ‘ill’ person is never really sure of what it is that is wrong with them.

    There is a scene where a ‘liberal’ Imam confronts some of the Jihadis walking through the Mosque who have forced women to wear gloves to cover themselves. The Imam points out that they are enforcing these rules with severe punishments but it says in Quran that one should give explanation as to WHY one should be doing such things. The Islamic State fighters simply justify their behaviour with the claim they are on Jihad. This means they can now walk through the Mosque wearing boots and carrying weapons. The rules don’t apply to them.

    In much the same way as the Form filled out by the Community Nurse could be applied to anyone on the planet, though the claim is that there are legal protections from arbitrary detentions, but he is on a Jihad against ‘mental illness’ and therefore his war on the ‘enemy’ allows him to operate outside the law. Those who support him in this simply utter with the fraud he produces, and deny access to effective legal representation.

    There is a significant difference though. The Islamists are bound by the Quran, which can not be changed. So acts of fraud if demonstrated create a dilemma for the senior Islamists, and there may be serious consequences for them for acts of fraud and uttering, slander, and hypocrisy. Unlike the ‘psychiatric quran’ which allows the “editing” of legal narratives to fabricate outcomes preferred by those in power (fraud), which makes use of slander as a ‘diagnostic system’, and a total disregard for the truth in the face of absolute proof that criminal offences have occurred (hypocrisy).

    Not that the Islamists haven’t found what they believe to be ‘loopholes’, it’s just that the Quran is not a moving set of goal posts, and is the Primary source of truth.

    I was really pleased to hear that you have a safe place, and are being influenced by the power of prayers. This place is temporary.

    I had someone tell me today about a cartoon they are working on. It is two panels, one with President Biden and Mohammed bin Salman fist bumping, and the other panel is at the Gates of Heaven with Julian Assange fist bumping Jamal Kashoggi.

    Take care Dan. Try and watch the above documentary if you have time (and consider the similarities between jahiliyyah and anosognosia. The lack of insight the justification for force in both instances), there are THREE of us that are mad it would seem, it’s just that Adamm Curtis is so much better at communicating than me.

    I can’t even make a complaint about being tortured and be heard, despite having the documented proof. Mind you I don’t think i’d be much more effective with the Taliban, who after all would possibly not bother having me delivered to an E.D. for an ‘unintended negative outcome’, and I doubt very much that they would be rudely interrupted if they did. They don’t seem to be big on documenting things, so the idea of a need for “editing” of legal narrative ….. you get the picture. Same people, different faces.

  • I think taking stuff that makes you sick is proof you need to be given stuff that makes you sick, If the choice is yours Dan, choose. In my instance, my choice to not take intoxicants didn’t suit the purposes of certain individuals, so they thought they were justified in putting it into my drink to have me consume the poison I would otherwise refuse.

    Our ex Prime Minister had something to say about such people when there was someone putting needles into food in supermarkets. Though it seems once again, these comments did not apply to anyone who had the cover of ‘mental health professional’ as protection.

    The comments about the high levels of sexual assaults being reported by ‘patient’s made by our Minister for mental Health that “you can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients” really struck home for me. I know there was a staff member (why does that make me smile) whose willful exposure to the female patients was well known about, even among other staff but……… nothing ever done about it because “you can’t listen to them………

    I suppose enabling his abuses makes it easier to conceal other more serious human rights abuses because those captured within the system realise that resistance is useless. Show them how brutal you are as they get off the trains being the orders that are given, it will make your task easier

    And I agree with you Dan, I think that the ‘mental health system’ radicalises people, quite rapidly. Though like police they ensure they are ‘on site’ when they do to put down any possible response as quickly as possible. This should change significantly with Community Treatment Orders. Radicalised, but not contained? Expect MORE rampages, with more calls for more powers to restrain within the home. I don’t even like to imagine what a community of that sort will look like. I guess we are about to find out.

    In fact, it makes an interesting hypothesis……. is it the case that mental health services, like Islamic State, are radicalising individuals and the results of this radicalisation are contributing to the rise in rampages and mass shootings? Because in many societies where the ‘radicals’ have instilled their beliefs through acts of force and violence, we see a response of acts of violence from the non compliant against their own communities……. see for example Afghanistan and the attacks on Mosques during Taliban rule.

  • Just pondering these ‘disappearances’ being done by the State government.

    You would think that given I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs without my knowledge, and was being transported against my will by police to a locked ward of a ‘mental institution’ (I note it is serving more than one purpose for the State, though the term is applied in much the same way as Auschwitz was considered a ‘work camp’), that I would have been allowed to contact my ‘next of kin’, a lawyer, or my doctor?

    Not a chance, in fact they ensured that I could not contact my daughter by denying me access to her telephone number, when I asked about speaking to a lawyer this request was denied, and my doctor? Well, they definitely couldn’t have that occur, because they knew I didn’t actually have a psychiatrist and were breaking the law by completing fraudulent Forms to create the appearance I was an “Outpatient”. Police did not provide a referral source, as they had been called and asked to assist with a violent psychotic drug abusing wife beater who was an “outpatient” in possession of a knife, and refusing to talk to his ‘carer’. Though I note the ‘switch’ was made to create the appearance I was a Police referral once back at Ariel Castro Memorial Hospital. Hey look how easy kidnapping is in my State 🙂

    I did make a phone call eventually, though I also see that the contents of that call (to a lawyer at the Law Centre) were documented by a nurse to ensure that the ‘doctor’ (who was conspiring with the Private Clinic psychologist to conceal the offending) was informed of what I had discussed with ‘outsiders’. Documents adjusted accordingly (see the email to the Office of the Chief Psychiatrist where my ‘threats of litigation’ were used to justify my ill treatment, and denial of ‘due process’). Look out, he has talked to a lawyer, someone get a needle full of the chemical kosh into him asap.

    I did actually manage to get a receipt for my person, in the form of a “with complements’ slip with a comment about me being put on Forms by the Community Nurse. Quite a funny guy when you think about that, tortured, kidnapped and he says “with compliments”. Note the deception of creating the appearance of being a Police referral before even leaving the scene of his crimes?

    I suppose the problem with contacting my next of kin was that they would then have had to inform my daughter of me being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and they were actively concealing the offences related to that fact….. intoxication by deception ( 3 years), stupefying with intent to commit an indictable offence (20 years), etc etc. And that was all going to be resolved once they ‘chemically restrained’ me for wearing a loud shirt in a public place (that would be considered “reasonable” right?).

    You really have to love Australia though. They have the rest of the world convinced this is a democracy, when in fact it has regressed into a Police State where arbitrary detentions, torture, ‘refouler’ are sorted out with document “editing”.

    The only person the State would allow to act as my ‘next of kin’ being the person who had arranged to have me ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and who then planted a knife for police to find. Hardly someone who could be considered to be ‘acting in my interests’ right? Glad she didn’t request that I be ‘assisted to die’ under the new laws given the ease with which my right to consent was passed by the State to the person who ‘spiked’ me with date rape drugs to incapacitate me.

    Still, I guess when your acting like a pack of rapists, why wouldn’t you try and isolate your victim and make sure you got rid of any evidence, and got your story straight in case anyone bothered to ask.

    All sorted now though, the documents have been released showing the offending and everyone simply ignores the documented facts. How humiliating for the victims is that? To be showing the offences which are as plain as the nose on my face, to be denied with bare faced lies?

    Personally I think that my wifes close personal friendship with the Ministers psychologist sister, and her ‘advice’ to my wife, may have something to do with his response of ‘get treated’ to my allegation of acts of torture, despite the facts showing he may be uttering with what are fraudulent documents. Decide for yourself.

  • Yes KateL, it is chilling.

    I read a book some years ago that was 4 reports about the issues being faced by the National Socialists during the processing of a part of their population, and the production of items for the war effort. That too was chilling, the way these Public Officers were suggesting a slowing down of the killing of particular ‘skill sets’ due to the need for their particular skills. One that comes to mind was those who made truck seats, which as you can imagine a truck is not much use without. Comfort for the driver delivering the Einsatzgruppen to a town for ‘purging’ important.

    What the Doc here is talking about is true of all areas of medicine. In fact, I think that in some ways the introduction of this corruption has come from other areas, and into psychiatry/mental health. Though the effect of that corrupting seems to have different behavioural outcomes.

    I know that what I have observed about the State enabling the “editing” of documented legal narratives to conceal criminal conduct may be why any research coming out of Australia would receive such scrutiny. The wholesale “editing” of legal narratives to do cover ups a common occurrence, and the refusal of any authorities to pursue the matters quite easily identified (Try and make a complaint about being tortured (or point out the duty of a public officer to report suspected misconduct)? “We’ll fucking destroy you” the response. Not really fitting with the Convention Australia ratified but …. who cares)

    Moving frauds sideways in your ‘industry’ is not really a good solution when your word is your honor. In fact, I think that providing such ‘institutional protections’ actually attracts a certain type of person, who being aware there are no negative consequences for serious criminal conduct will take on a Machiavellian type of ‘character flaw’.

    Unauthorised experiments on patients contributed to studies easily “edited” out of existence should things not turn out the way you might have expected…….. and with police available to retrieve any documents proving the offending, arbitrary detentions authorised by our Chief Psychiatrist based on the “observed behaviours suggesting a mental illness” once the “Outpatient” has been beaten senseless by police? And lets not mention the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs which “never happened” because “edited” (wasn’t that a problem me still having the proof?)

    Chilling? I doubt very much the public in Australia is even aware of how chilling it has become. The ‘unintended negative outcomes’ requiring the passing of a Euthanasia Act because the Mental Health Act covers a lot of human rights abuses and concealment of criminal conduct…… but didn’t actually go that far, and the ‘joint enterprise’ nature of the offending needed to be ‘cut’.

    Himmler had the same problem with the report of Josef Hartinger and required laws to enable the ‘outcomings’ at Dachau to continue, and resolved it in the same manner.

    But what else would one expect for a State where torture and disappearances are methods of discipline? Snatched from your bed by police after being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and never to see your family again because ….. they were witnesses to it all and need to comply with the “edited” version of reality. How dare you question our authority to do this to citizens?. Especially when the Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the law to allow it to occur, and removed the protections afforded the community.

    “If the party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, it never happened–that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death.” Orwell 1984.

    The government we now have has been described as “being totally obsessed with secrecy”. And given the way they are enabling “editing” of reality, no wonder. But what matters is that you get your research published……. and if that takes a bit of “editing” or fabrication of data, so be it.

    Integrity could be restored to the ‘system’ quite rapidly, though unlike the Emperor of Wu, you would need to have the stomach for what needs to be done to achieve that end.

  • I can see what your saying Denver Dan.

    I wrote a comment regarding the way that these abusers actively seek out the institutional protections afforded them in much the same way that the child rapists sought out the protections afforded by the Churches for 40 years.

    I was speaking with a lawyer at golf yesterday, and he was explaining how the Head of one Church who had actively participated in the concealment of the offending, and who was in the role as Head of the Church for 10 months, now receives more than $800,000 (indexed) a year for the rest of his life. While many of the victims who may not have been victimised but for his negligence and cover ups, got how much in a one off payment? Oh that’s right, it wasn’t much use putting the money on many of the graves. The “Ellis Defense” ensuring they basically got nothing.

    Personally I think retaliating in kind is wrong.

    I have told a story before about a Samurai who came home from war to find his family had been slaughtered, his home burned to the ground and everything destroyed. He tracked down the man responsible and fought him, beat him to the ground, and was about to cut his head off when the man spat in his face. The samurai put away his sword and walked away.

    The people who watched the events asked him, “After all that this man has done to you, why did you not kill him?”

    The Samurai responded “Because I was angry”.

    They will turn on themselves, and ‘we’ need to be in a place where we are protecting our own from their abuses. There are historical examples, the flight of the Muslims to Medina being mine. Leave them in their own corruption, and live according to a set of rules where each member of the community can place a level of trust in the other….. as opposed to this enabling of human rights abuses and criminality by the current State system.

    Acts of fraud, slander and hypocrisy are classed as serious offenses in Islam, in my State they are seen as a ‘business model’ provided money by the State, and called ‘mental health services’. Why on earth anyone would walk in to there offices willingly leaves me gobsmacked….. though once you realise what ‘coercive’ methods are available, you begin to understand how the ‘showers’ are getting filled, and the art collections in the homes of those benefiting are getting bigger. The extraction of labour power these days done minus the work camps. The trough of State money unending when it comes to having the people the State is at war with ‘treated’.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Julia_Tobin

  • I’ve got a letter that caused me some extreme trauma. And this, I believe, was the intent of the author. Taking something I held to be a truth, and changing what was done to me from criminal to being lawful….. by rewriting the legal protections afforded my whole community, and enabling arbitrary detentions.

    Perhaps you, as a ‘letter writer’ can see a difference between;

    “suspect on reasonable grounds that the person should be made an involuntary patient” With the Criteria for what constitutes an “involuntary patient” set out in a section of the Mental Health Act (Must have an illness, must be a risk, illness must be treatable, and least coercive method used)

    AND

    “The Authorised Mental Health Practitioner need only ‘suspect’ on grounds they believe to be reasonable that the person requires an examination by a psychiatrist”

    This second misrepresentation of the law removes the protection afforded the community by removing the “reasonable grounds” and leaving only a suspicion (commonly called ‘suss laws’ which enable arbitrary detentions) AND changing the consequences of the referral from the belief that the person needs to be an involuntary patient (ie incarcerated and force drugged) to a nice little chat with a psychiatrist.

    This effectively makes the Criteria set out in the law which ARE the “reasonable grounds” totally moot.

    I’m obviously not very good at communicating in English because I have been told that this rewriting of the law which to me makes substantive changes to the protections afforded the community against human rights abuses is “not a misrepresentation” (to quote the Minister for Mental Health)

    Now whilst these matters may not be important to the Minister or the Chief Psychiatrist, they are important to me because if this is a misrepresentation , then criminal offenses have occurred and I have been subjected to human rights abuses. And their negligence in not dealing with the matters they received a complaint about, may mean others are being harmed.

    So I have spent some time looking at the statements and wondering why the people charged with protecting the community, don’t even recognise the laws that are designed to protect ‘us’. Seems a bit strange really…….

    So can you see what I am saying Ms Holzman?

    “When one is writing a letter, he should think that the recipient will make it into a hanging scroll.” Yamamoto Tsunetomo, Hagakure.

    I have made the letter of response from our Chief Psychiatrist into a ‘hanging scroll’, and live in the hope that someone will recognise how his misrepresentations and refusal to correct his ‘error’ is resulting in the enabling of arbitrary detentions and the concealment of acts of torture in facilities wrongly called ‘hospitals’.

    I mean, I simply had no idea that the Chief Psychiatrist could actually rewrite the law and remove the legal protections afforded the community, and then lay claim to providing ‘protection to consumers, carers and the community’ with his “expert legal advice to the Minister”.

    Looks more like criminal negligence enabling cover ups of crimes and human rights abuses to me. Don’t like the laws protecting the public? Rewrite them, and then deny access to effective legal representation and ‘suspect’ that the ‘complainant’ requires ‘treatments’.

    I can only begin to imagine how the Chief Psychiatrist would rewrite the Articles of the Convention against the use of Torture. Oh wait, given what he has already written, that document doesn’t even exist anymore. The “editing” of legal narratives he has enabled means that whatever ‘they’ want to be true, can be achieved with such “editing”.

    Consider;

    “The Operational Directive allows for release of the unredacted medical records to the legal practitioner upon signed confidentiality, but there is still a formal requirement for the service to identify those otherwise redacted areas first, to appropriately advise the lawyer”.

    This is the response by the C.P. to a complaint by the lawyers about receiving “edited” documents. That is, the documents showing I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs (this is a criminal offence in my State), and that the Community Nurse has called Police and requested assistance with his “Outpatient” (this being a criminal offence in my State) who was in possession of a knife (this too a criminal offence, not having a knife that was planted on you, but creating a false belief for Police). All the documents showing these facts removed and other documents making me a long term ‘patient’ of this hospital inserted in their place….. you know “edited”.

    I find myself wondering what kind of ‘advice’ the hospital was going to give my ‘legal representatives’ regarding their offending? The provision of these documents unredacted upon provision of the confidentiality agreement is to protect human rights, but it clearly doesn’t work when they simply “edit” reality, and the lawyers ‘play along’.

    Pointing these facts out to the Chief Psychiatrist and Minister (who thought the documents I had showing the differences to legal narrative done by “editing” had been retrieved by police) means….. crickets. Not only do they “edit” reality, even when they fail to retrieve the documents I had and the facts are exposed, they maintain their uttering with the fraud and deny the reality they clearly knew they were denying despite being aware of the truth.

    Do you have any ‘developmental’ suggestions for our Chief Psychiatrist and the Minister? Perhaps they might get some training in basic law and at least come to understand how a burden of proof operates to protect the community? Perhaps they can find a ‘new way’ of not “editing” human rights abuses out of legal narratives to conceal acts of torture and arbitrary detentions? Because their hypocrisy when pointing fingers at China seems a little…. rich (which given the money they are being paid you would expect at least some semblance of reasonableness…. though once they have removed reason from the laws, it really does come crumbling down)

    If they knew the laws they were charged with enforcing, they might actually not get so many people they have to silence because they don’t like the truth and have to “edit” reality to ensure their preferred outcome is achieved every time.

    Not to mention the ‘unintended negative outcomes’ the Coroner is having to turn a blind eye to.

    Anyway, hope you can respond in some meaningful way other than some of the more bizarre gaslighting responses I have gotten from people who call themselves ‘lawyers’, though appear to be closer to what are called criminally negligent sycophant’s

  • “Beans says, “Trust in haste, regret at leisure””

    The quote is from a poster on the wall in the 1985 movie Brazil.

    The other two I liked from the same movie were “Suspicion Breeds Confidence” and “Don’t suspect a friend, Report them”.

    Fascinating movie, with the Michael Palin character Jack Lint, the public torturer modelled on a psychiatrist. (“utterly and totally unscrupulous”. to quote the wiki page)

    “if you or someone you know is suffering metal health concerns call this number and report them”
    We really are getting to this stage of becoming totally paranoid about the mental stability of those around us…… not unlike the prying eyes (was that a song by the Eagles?) of the National Socialist’s in Germany.

    I also found it kind of strange that the people who arranged to have me tortured so that I would talk, quite quickly had to make ‘other arrangements’ to have me silenced. Clever of the Chief Psychiatrist to make the “observable behaviours” produced by acts of torture and arbitrary detentions justification for forced drugging and incarceration. No need for the Convention against the use of Torture, because those who have been tortured get ‘treated’, and would never be in a position to access the protections afforded by the law. Their reality is “edited” out of existence by the State, and no one dare look.

    The way the Community Nurse had to avoid the truth and facts in his documentation is hilarious when you realise what he is doing with his fraudulent documents, being uttered with by other more senior public officers to defend the indefensible. Hi to the Minister for Health. Can’t be easy maintaining know lies with the truth on your desk, hence the need for “editing” when the inevitable does occur. I guess he will be long gone by the time the ‘authorities’ stop throwing the ball between themselves as an obstruction tactic.

    I guess the State needs to be careful enabling torture when they may not like what they hear….. ask Umayyah ibn Khalaf.

  • Sorry, can’t edit the comment above.

    Oh wow, I’ve just figured out a way to bypass the confidentiality afforded by the Federal Privacy Act. Who’d have thought it was that easy?

    All those ‘great legal minds’ and there is a loophole the size of a Mack Truck. Well, you have to commit a series of offences for the situation to occur where you can appear to have released the ‘medical records’ lawfully but …… it’s not like police are going to do anything about an “Outpatient” making complaints when they are intoxicated by deception with date rape drugs to stupefy and commit an indictable offence right?

    Once incapacitated and in the hands of the people in the locked ward, your now “Regular Medications” (the benzos you were ‘spiked’ with to incapacitate) means you can’t consent to the release of your ‘medical records’, and it’s simply a matter of the SMO making a telephone call to the clinic psych and she can now release your records because a doctor (someone who CAN prescribe drugs for you to be ‘spiked’ with 12 hours before he even met you) has requested them, and you lost your right to consent…….. or you will, once they have ‘chemically restrained’ you, and your dribbling in a cell.

    In fact, given I was NOT an “Outpatient” and whilst I concede that I had been placed on a Form 1 and therefore may have been considered a “referred person” (only a psychiatrist can remove your right to consent, and up to that point, I had no psychiatrist) under the MH Act, I had only lost my right to liberty and significantly NOT my right to consent.

  • Yeah, me too.

    I think Ms Hartman has an article here on MiA answering that question.

    I just realised thinking about your question, that my “dx” was unlawfully released to the ‘hospital’ from the Private Clinic which had written a report for the courts relating to an injury I sustained at my work.

    But it was only ever listed as a “Provisional Diagnosis” by the Senior Medical Officer who also wrote the fraudulent prescription to conceal the ‘spiking’ with benzos.

    The significance of which is????? I was never made into a “patient” because the Consultant Psychiatrist wrote that he could find no evidence of a ‘mental illness’.

    So the idea of me having the “dx” expunged from the records is ludicrous. The State is simply uttering with the known fraud to maintain a falsehood.

    That particular “dx” which was released, was one of three reports written by psychiatrists. The second report not preferred by my employer so they then had one produced by someone who has a reputation for ‘hatchet jobs’ (ie minimizing ‘insurance claims’ for companies prepared to pay the ‘fee’)

    The Federal Privacy Act should provide legal protection form the release of such information from a Private Clinic, but the problem being that this psychologist (with a Masters degree) had arranged to have me incapacitated with benzos put into my drink without my knowledge….. and then unlawfully detained by police (told I was an “Outpatient” of a hospital) before being locked in a cage. The “provisional Diagnosis” was done based on a three minute interview by the SMO where he found out I had studied psychology, and had a wife…….. and he then made ‘his’ diagnosis? fact is, that diagnosis is proof of the offending under the Federal Privacy Act, and was part of a large number of other offenses committed against me and the community on that day.

    They can’t expunge something that doesn’t exist, thought the State is maintaining the lie to conceal the offending.

    “Provisional Diagnosis”? If I think I have lost a golf ball off the tee, I hit a ‘provisional’, is this what this SMO is relying on to justify his ‘snow jobs’ and torture for Police?

  • I think your right Denver Dan, John Hogget does make some important points.

    “Do the staff in an Inpatient Psychiatric Ward have the RIGHT to ASSAULT a patient who is refusing to take medication EVEN IF he or she has an INJURY?”

    There were a number of deaths at one of our ‘facilities’ about 10 years back. Patients who were being ‘gangtackled’ were also having their necks snapped. These “unintentional negative outcomes” were stopped it seems with some staff training sessions in how to do restraints.

    There was an association between our Police and a ‘physical training company’ around that particular time, which the Police Dept had difficulty stopping their members from attending for ‘personal training’.

    I have witnessed one nurse who liked to practice his Mixed Martial Arts training on patients, at one point trying to threaten me for going to the hospital to obtain documentation via FOI. He did like to fight some of the bigger, fitter patients, but would probably last about 15 minutes in Helmand province methinks.

    There isn’t a lot the State can do about these ‘rogue’ elements who may wish to practice the techniques that they are learning from these ‘private personal trainers’ which may involve methods of snapping necks once the ‘patient’ is in a vulnerable position. That is, with ‘mental health professionals’ holding them face down, and open to a bit of thumb pressure in the right place.

    It is known that none of them would testify given the precedent set when 14 police watched a young man kicked to death in the cells, though refused to testify on the grounds of self incrimination. The same precedent is set for other areas of ‘containment’, with nurses also aware of their right of refusal to bear witness to the crimes of others (see joint enterprise laws)

    So the deaths and serious assaults aren’t even investigated really, knowing that those who watched it occur, will refuse to testify….. ergo you have no case to answer. A good reason for ensuring that there are no ‘credible’ witnesses to these assaults. Would anything have been done about George Floyd without the video of him being murdered? I’m surprised police didn’t have the ‘evidence retrieval unit’, and ‘witness family threats unit’ go into action as they would have done here.

    I assume your aware of the ways they are set up by staff, and why your ‘confidentiality’ is being ‘protected’ by not allowing cameras on the facility? That is, do it when all the other ‘patients’ are present to watch the ‘take down’, so for example one I witnessed done at the breakfast kitchen window while the only others present were staff and patients’. The good old terrorist methods of kill one to scare a thousand. Sun Tzu was right, it works a treat.

  • I was pondering the use of the corrupt practice of “verballing” earlier. It has been called “noble corruption” by those who would like it to continue being part of our public officers means of corrupting our court system. Technically it is just corruption and nothing more. The adding of an adjective merely ‘softens’ what should be seen as a practice worthy of imprisonment.

    Then I realised how the use of the term “psychiatric abuse” works. By drawing the abuse into the institution, it makes the abuse somehow different, and allows the enablers to conceal and obfuscate the abuse.

    During the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, we didn’t hear Counsel Assisting speak about ‘religious child rapists’, or ‘Catholic child rapists’, we heard about the “character flaws” of individuals which were not seen as worthy of being reported to police. How one could look at the ‘repairs’ done to the anus of an 8 year old boy by a doctor and NOT think of these types of injuries as being ‘reportable offences’ eludes me, but, that’s what happened….. for nearly 40 years.

    I guess the point being that it is when the offences are being concealed by the ‘institution’ that perpetrators will find ways of making their abuse (and it is simply abuse and NOT religious abuse, or psychiatric abuse) appear to be part of an institution. They join Church groups to gain access to children for example.

    So I find in my situation I was subjected to human rights abuses and criminal conduct, but the perpetrators have done the smart thing and dressed it up as being ‘psychiatric abuse’ and received all the protections afforded by that ‘repackaging’. Does it change anything if one rapes a child as a Priest as opposed to being a layperson? It certainly used to. Does it change anything if you abuse someone as a ‘mental health professional’?

    I think the analogy is a valid one. In both situations it is the ‘institution’ which is responding to the allegations, and providing protection once the perpetrators have created the illusion that it is the ‘institution’ which is at fault….. and the knee jerk reaction is there for all to see. The State was quite open with me that their response to me complaining about their colleagues abuses would be to “fucking destroy” me.

    And with the ability to “edit” legal narrative and make citizens into “Outpatients” post hoc to conceal their offending, and use of arbitrary detentions and torture (and worse)…. the sky really is the limit.

    I must say that the psychiatrists I have dealt with have been honorable people (save one who had motive to do me harm. That is, the concealment of criminal conduct). But the people who did the document “editing” to conceal the facts from my legal representatives, and those who forged the letter of response from the Chief Psychiatrist……absolutely vicious abusers who are using the resources of police in their misconduct (I assume the ‘favors’ are being returned via breaches of ‘confidentiality’)

    I got the same feeling when hearing the testimony of the mother whose son had been abused by a Priest for years, and when he committed suicide by hanging himself on his bedroom door, the local Church authorities went straight to her home to ensure he hadn’t left a suicide note detailing the abuse by their colleague. Once satisfied there was no evidence, they left the mother in her own grief for others to deal with.

    I guess in a way I have been throwing my compliant against the ‘psychiatric abuse’ wall, when what was done was NOT ‘psychiatric abuse’ at all. It has simply been made to APPEAR to be psychiatric abuse to use the protections afforded by the ‘institution’ and their enablers.

    There were no ‘religious child rapes’ in as much as there is no ‘psychiatric abuses’……. they are just abuses.

    And I am assuming that at some point there will be a reckoning. Those who have been enablers and have silenced the abuses of others may be held up in public for their evil deeds. Perhaps their “character flaws” can be drugged and electrocuted from them? In a ‘medicinal’ kind of way of course, once they are made “Outpatients” with a little “editing” of documents.

    Such a shame that the ‘institution’ continues to provide the protections it does, despite being aware of how it is being done. The proof of the harms here at MiA for all to see….. if only they would look. I know, it takes time…. which is cold comfort to the growing list of victims of this ‘psychiatric abuse’.

  • Our Minister for MH was presented with a report showing that nearly 50% of women had reported being sexually assaulted in the locked wards, to which she replied “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”.

    But putting your silencing methods aside, let me run something past your legal mind.

    171. Creating false belief
    (1) In this section —
    belief means a belief or suspicion that —
    (a) an offence has been or is about to be committed;
    (b) human safety is or may be endangered;
    (c) human life has or may have been lost;
    (d) property is or may be endangered;
    (e) property has or may have been destroyed;
    (f) there is a fire that needs to be put out,
    and that is of such a nature as would reasonably call for action by the Police Force or by emergency services.
    (2) A person who does or omits to do any act with the intention of creating a false belief is guilty of a crime and is liable to imprisonment for 2 years.

    AND

    Any person who, by the production of a false certificate or other document, knowingly and wilfully, procures any person, not suffering from mental illness (as defined in the Mental Health Act) or mental impairment, to be apprehended or detained, pursuant to that Act or any law relating to mental impairment, upon insufficient or unreasonable grounds, is guilty of a crime and is liable to imprisonment for 3 years.

    These are two offences listed in the Criminal Code. Now I don’t expect you to believe me for a moment but…. I have documents here which show that (a) I was NOT an “Outpatient” of ANY hospital or facility. Though a Community Nurse has completed a Form titled “Outpatient Case Notes” and has then called police informing them that he will require assistance with his “Outpatient”, and there is a receipt number from Police for this request. The Community Nurse was fully aware that what he was doing was criminal but …….and that (b) he was also aware that I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs AND that police were going to find a knife on his “Outpatient” (mainly because others had arranged for that to occur once I collapsed).

    I have the documents showing both the creation of a false belief AND the “false certificate or document”. You would think it would be fairly easy to obtain legal assistance or at least an explanation as to why it wasn’t an offence to do these things? But this isn’t what happened…….because the hospital knew police now thought I was a knife wielding, drug abusing, mental patient and they were refusing to even examine the documents I have…… and the lawyers I did have? Well, they preferred the “edited” version of events, despite their right to examine unredacted documents to protect human rights.

    What do I mean by “edited” version of events? Well, instead of me not being anyone’s “Outpatient”, the legal narrative changed with the removal of certain documents, and the insertion of others from an old file. I became an “Outpatient” of more than ten years….. and the date rape drugs which had been administered without my knowledge? Drugs which I have never had a prescription for, and would never take willingly as they are intoxicants. Well, I have a prescription for my “Regular Medications” signed by a doctor I had never met until more than 12 hours after they were administered …. I’m sure your legal knowledge would take you to “Compounding or concealing a criminal offence” with that fraudulent prescription? And lets go back a bit to before I became an “Outpatient” as a result of a telephone call and a diagnosis of a Serious Mental Illness by a Community Nurse (no psychiatrists required where I live, despite what the law says)….. oh wait, lets not…. the forged legal narrative is now the preferred one.

    Of course I have had confirmation that these matters were “human rights violations” and that the letter from the Chief Psychiatrist (based on the “edited” version of events) was a “cover up” (I won’t reference the source of those statements, but the person was well qualified to make them)

    Now that we have established that, can we take a look at what happened when I was ‘admitted’ to the E.D after trying to access the protection of the law?. Because there were some people who were desperately trying to make me into a ‘patient’ with forged documents due to their concerns about plotting to ‘spike’ me with date rape drugs and have me unlawfully transported against my will to a locked cage, where the intent was to do me further harm for no other reason than I had a disagreement with my wifes family, and was going to leave because of the threats they had issued to home invade and bash me senseless.

    “These things tend to get a bit out of hand”, no kidding Einstein.

    Especially when I had the documented proof and was going to the Police and attempting to make a complaint…, about a psychiatrists wife who is a psychologist at a Private Clinic, and who had provided information to my wife as to how to procure the services of a Community Nurse and Police to have me ‘arbitrarily detained’ (though I think the correct term is kidnapped given the police seem to have been unaware that the Community Nurse was lying to have them cause an ‘acute stress reaction’, combined with the ‘spiking’ this then becomes an act of torture See Article 1 of the Convention).

    Anyway Perry Mason, what ya think? Should I sue?

    With only the “edited” version there was no chance. With the redacted version the proof was there, but it was obscured. With the unredacted ones everyone is afraid for their families given the way police have provided assistance to the criminals to cover up their crimes and human rights abuses. I did have to ask a Member of Parliament which set of documents the State was going to provide to the Federal Court after showing him the two narratives. Particularly given the Chief Psychiatrist had responded to the “edited” version of events (despite admitting having sighted the complete set of unredacted documents), I assume thinking that the offending documents had been retrieved, so no one would know about the “editing” tehe. And well, Police had been told to ensure they didn’t take the proof of the crimes because ……. best ask the people ordering police around in that regard, you know, the criminals.

    Police failing to retrieve the documents I have (despite chasing me half way around the State with my wife to have her retrieve them and keep their hands off) showing the offences AND much more significantly, the cover up.

    Having the proof of these matters more a problem for the victim than the people arranging little accidents, and rearranging legal narratives and calling it “editing”.

    So ya still think you know what’s really going on there? Because i’ve personally witnessed people of the same opinion virtually deficate themselves once they realised what I was saying was true. They were all good as long as the story was I was mad, but that doesn’t mean that what I’m saying isn’t true, it just makes it worth of closer examination …. which results in people shitting themselves. And they simply find it easier to gaslight the victim (and sell out their souls in the process, the hypocrites.)

    And why the fear of a psychiatrist? It’s not like they believe me when I tell them about the plan to resolve the matters in the E.D. It was all on camera, and I can take them through it if they like. If they wouldn’t do that, then no problem raising the issue rather than this “keep our names out of it” thing? or does making yourself a target cause that fear in people because they instinctively know what I am saying is occurring, they just chose to not look?

  • “Don’t listen to boans or anyone else who tells you everyone is conspiring against you—I think it’s clear what’s really going on there.”

    I’m not sure that’s what I’ve actually said but …… your comment, not mine.

    And I wouldn’t deny that it’s quite clear there is something going on for me, being subjected to arbitrary detention and acts of torture tends to do something to most who are subjected to it……. I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone.

    But I don’t think that this something going on diminishes my claim for one moment. All I have ever asked is that the documented proof of what I am alleging be examined BEFORE passing judgement on my state of mental health. The two are separate.

    Keep in mind with the benefit of State resources and the threat to ‘fuking destroy’ me and my family for attempting to make a complaint when the documents support my claim of being arbitrarily detained and tortured, and thus the need to “edit” reality before denying me access to legal representation.

    But don’t look, and I guess with statements such as this;

    “Many of your reported side effects are not listed for Gabapentin, which means you have standing to sue.”

    you really don’t seem to understand for a moment what is required in order the bring action in the courts. I eat an ice cream and break out in a rash does NOT provide me with grounds to bring an action in tort because the side effects were not listed on the cone. And in fact, what I am suggesting (and borne out by the facts I believe) is that having valid grounds for a complaint can actually put your life in danger…….. but, walk into it blind if you will. I’m sure there are no longer people who would exploit their positions to do harm to someone trying to sue them. Trust in haste, regret at leisure.

    Still, I’m sure all will be revealed in good time. Enjoy the rain.

  • Holy Crap, the elephant in the room just sat on me……… No discussion of the use of force? Of course not, no one would want to be THAT critical.

    I think the ‘pub test’ for the use of ECT lies in the way it can be used to deliberately harm someone who you may want harmed (but can arrange the narrative in such a way as it looks like ‘medicine’). For example, I have examined a timeline of drawings as someone’s brain was deliberately damaged (I know, you can’t prove it because “edited”), and whilst you might argue that he was given ‘informed consent’, I would also suggest there was quite a bit of coercion involved. Especially after you have been belted with the ‘chemical kosh’ a few times, people tend to ‘comply’ a little easier.

    My experience was one of crossing paths with organised criminals operating under the carte blanche and zero accountability model put forward by our Chief Psychiatrist in his letter of response to the Law Centre. When citizens can be ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs (benzos), and then have police told that the ‘target’ is an “outpatient” of a hospital (falsely, a crime under our Criminal Code) and then plant a knife on them for police to find….. we could have ANYONE detained in this manner;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    and then the documents are “edited” post hoc to make the citizen into a “patient” before their lawyers are allowed to examine the documents, and make a complaint based on facts rather than fabrications. The provisions of the law (and other associated legal mechanisms) provide the appearance that such things couldn’t happen. And in fact, this is possibly the best defense put forward in my instance ….. that is “they wouldn’t do that” (and by denying reality this defense is rock solid).

    The problem being that should anyone see the documented proof, then they might also examine what the intent behind having me ‘referred’ to the E.D. before the lawyers got to examine the documents, and police refusing to perform their duty actually was. (Kind of funny the way they were trying to nail Bugs, who kept slipping through their fingers because someone didn’t have the stomach for what they had planned to silence me) A rather delicate situation having police retrieve documented proof of human rights abuses and crimes before distributing slander and fraud and calling it “editing”.

    Though psychiatry, like a knife, it can be used for good or evil. Whilst I understand the need for the ‘invisible hand’ when dealing with the people who would use it for evil, I am firmly of the belief that concealing the truth with falsehood is an offense possibly worse than the crimes being committed and being disguised as ‘medicine’.

    Can you imagine, I have a set of documents here that show how to ‘spike’ someone with date rape drugs, and then fabricate the evidence/justification for the use of the ‘chemical kosh’, and then start force drugging them with the very same drug they were ‘spiked’ with that caused the “observable behaviours” that the Chief Psychiatrists says warrants the use of force to medicate? The guy getting his head stomped in the above video would have the ‘treatment’ he received from police completely ignored, and his response to that ‘treatment’ becomes his ‘illness’ which justifies his forced treatment? Claiming that your behaviour was as a direct result of the beating would be offering “justifiable explanations for the behaviour and does not diminish the capacity of the AMHP from considering the broader clinical picture which may give cause to suspect mental illness” according to our C.P.

    Consider that; you are mown down by a motor vehicle, then beaten senseless by a gang of thugs, and your response should be one of calm lest you be ‘suspected’ of having a mental illness that will require you to be placed in an induced coma against your will, ….. and be treated for the next thirty years under a CTO? Because the alternative is to charge the thugs?

    Maybe the letter from the Chief Psychiatrist was forged? By the Law Centre once the hospital had retrieved the documents showing the facts, and had replaced them with the “edited” legal narrative? That would make sense given the bizarre claims made by the Chief Psychiatrist in the letter that he can rewrite the legal protections out of the Mental Health Act and authorise arbitrary detentions and torture? Or does it explain why the system is an absolute mess and being used for purposes other than designed? That is human rights abuses which are “edited” post hoc? With police receiving a benefit for their negligence from such a ‘weapon’.

    “The one who is silent on the truth is a dumb devil”.

    So would speaking the truth mean that others who have been harmed recognise the pattern? It certainly seems to be the case when they are informed of the dangers of these drugs, though to inform them might result in a claim your ‘dangerous’ (as opposed to ; your a scammer, and the game is up). Or informing the community that the Chief Psychiatrist is totally unaware of the protections afforded the community by the law, despite him providing “expert legal advice to the Minister on matters of mental health law”? or do they have so little respect for the people they are forcing to take drugs that they ‘lack insight’ so much as to not recognise their human rights to NOT be tortured? Fairly easy to silence them with some drugs and electricity anyway, so why would you show any respect?

    Our Minister for Mental Health asked about a report showing that nearly 50% of women in locked facilities reported being sexually assaulted. Her response, documented in the Hansards…….” “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”. Is it any wonder it is the environment of choice for abusers? And consider the savings for the Church in having someone in a position to ensure their ‘liabilities’ which resulted from their treatment of some children in their ‘care’ had their “observable behaviours” silenced with ‘major tranquillizers’. I do hope someone has the courage to look someday. Someone prepared to sign fraudulent prescriptions making date rape drugs into a persons “Regular Medications” to conceal offenses perhaps?

  • “Statute of limitations regarding medical error, medical malpractice needs to go away”.

    Yes, I find it amazing that it took a Community Nurse just over an hour to arrange to have me arbitrarily detained and tortured, but the authorities who are meant to ensure the safety of the community can’t do anything about the offending in ten years (despite the documented proof) because they are so busy trying to cover it all up.

    The negligence of the lawyers I approached, and who ensured that the statute of limitations expired as a direct result of their negligence should be rewarded for their efforts in maintaining these people in positions where they can harm others. Their only concern? That it isn’t them being shoved into the showers at the point of a bayonette.

    The “editing” of legal narrative most certainly delayed matters for years, when I had a right to access the unedited/unredacted documents showing the crimes and human rights abuses I had been subjected to. Now that the State has issued threats to peoples families and witnesses, it becomes difficult for them to unthreaten them, and that means despite the matters being exposed, not a soul will step up and provide assistance. In fact, some find ways of kicking the injured and stealing from their wallet…… Hi to the divorce lawyer who thought I was mad, but ran when she realised I had the documented proof of what I was alleging. Still charging people thousands for telling them how expensive your time is? Or is that just the people you call nutjobs behind their backs?

    Personally I’d be happy to leave this place if I could have my property returned, but that was awarded to the criminals for their assistance with the concealment of the State sanctioned torture (quite a business model).

    I mean how low does it get? A private clinic psychologist conspiring with a persons wife to ‘spike’ someone with date rape drugs and then ‘plant’ items (a knife and some cannabis) on them for police to find AFTER they have been lied to that the person is a violent mental patient?

    It would be funny if it weren’t for the Chief Psychiatrist considering such conduct worthy of material support (and enabling the “editing” of legal narrative), rather than doing his duty and reporting the misconduct to the authorities under the mandatory reporting laws.

    But until there are journalists who are prepared to be more than channelers and echoers of what Orwell called the “Official Truth”, and who simply cipher and transmit lies (to paraphrase John Pilger) then I can’t see much ever changing in the enabling of arbitrary detentions and torture being “edited” out of existence by the State.

    Refusing to look, or worse looking and turning away, making them nothing more than the ‘dumb devils’ I spoke about in another comment.

    I’m sure they will come out of the woodwork when the ‘camps’ are liberated, and be boasting about their bravery in helping those who were being targeted by these abusers. Polish yer boots Mr Hitler?

  • I had no idea I had no idea that our human rights had been removed by a ‘Chief Psychiatrist’ removing legal protections from our laws to enable arbitrary detentions and torture. But there it is in black and white in a letter from his desk (should anyone ever care to look and not simply deny reality).

    Hey I was wondering what the collective term is for a group of hypocrites? The best I could come up with was a hysterical of hypocrites. It kind of describes the behaviour of these people when I turned up with the documents they thought had been retrieved by police, before they “edited” the human rights abuses and crimes out of the legal narrative.

    Major panic exposing the methods being used to conceal acts of State sanctioned torture and arbitrary detentions. ‘We’ want to point fingers at China, and our hypocrisy would be obvious if people knew how ‘we’ were doing it and concealing it from public view. “Who else has the documents?”

    They really do take their oaths as a cover.

    If there isn’t a collective noun, i’d like to put that one forward as a potential descriptor based on experience.

  • “If a cancer patient suddenly decides that he or she does not want any more chemo and stops treatment that is allowable, but not so with patients labeled with MI. The “health expert” has a legal requirement and obligation to drag a MI person to a psychiatric ward and force treatment on the person if they are deemed a danger to themselves or unable to make decisions for themselves.”

    In fact Gilbert, certainly in my State, it is as simple as a Nurse making the ‘cancer patient’, or anyone for that matter, into an “Outpatient” and police can be dispatched to go pick them up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    The Chief Psychiatrist writing that should any citizen have a ‘reaction’ to this type of treatment, then the “observable behaviours” are what matters and NOT the cause. He is also in support of the “editing” of documents to remove such “concerning aspects” from the legal narrative, and running with the fraud in the legal system.

    So the idea that ‘cancer patients’ or anyone else has some sort of ‘protections’ that those labelled Mentally Ill is simply wrong. You can pay $200 to a psychologist (with a Masters degree) to have them provide access to the ‘system’ and arrange to have anyone you like “fucking destroyed”. Simply have a Community Nurse tell Police that the person is an “Outpatient” and the wheels start a rollin…..,

    And the ‘authorities’ will ensure that absolutely nothing is done about the breaches of the law and human rights because they find it quite easy to “edit” documents post hoc, threaten families and witnesses, and arrange a little ‘accident’ for the person who had the audacity to complain.

    They have tried other ‘methods’ but it’s just so much cheaper for the State to dispose of them in this manner. Human life of little value once you become desensitized to the processing of ‘units’ in such ‘facilities’.

    And the community would only be concerned if it were they who were being subjected to such ‘treatments’, totally unaware that their human and civil rights have been removed without their knowledge. The Chief Psychiatrist and lawyers simply ignoring the facts or truth in favor of a fantasy fabricated by those “editors” of documents at the ‘hospitals’ concerned.

    I went from being a citizen who had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and then snatched by Police who thought I was an “Outpatient” with a knife (planted when I collapsed) to an10 year “outpatient” of the hospital. I was a violent psychotic drug abusing wife beater (instead of the victim of some serious criminal conduct by the Community Nurse) with the “editing” of the documents for my legal representatives.

    I believe that they had a need to “fuking destroy” my family because if we ever got together and spoke about these matters it would become obvious that not only was I defrauded, but they too had words put into their mouths for the concealment of the offending. y wife telling me she had said no such thing regarding me beating her (consistent with the truth, though I was certainly shocked to see they had quoted her on that ‘fact’ in a statutory declaration. Putting words into her mouth as well as mine to forge the risk required by the Act)

    I note the way the ‘honoring’ (by politicians) of our soldiers who died for these protections from oppression, is these days used to do ‘deals’ over weapons of mass destruction, for the benefit of large weapons manufacturers. Turn in their graves? They’re being bulldozed out of them, at the very monuments dedicated to their bravery. It seems these soldiers died for the right of our politicians, to remove ‘our’ rights, no questions asked (by a lame propaganda machine called ‘the press’).

    The Dogs of War. (Dealing in death is the nature of the Beast)

    Imagine what can be achieved with Euthanasia Laws and the ability to “edit” legal narrative in secret before anyone has the right to examine documents related to the ‘treatment’? It was what the public wanted our politicians who didn’t even raise the issue before the election tell us. Or perhaps it was more a case of it was what THEY wanted?

  • “I have lost friendships, thousands of dollars of income, and my health. I had to spend five weeks in intensive outpatient therapy to restore some of my mental health. I have never been through anything this traumatic before in my 34 years.”

    Let me be the first to say; ‘Welcome to mental health services’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOoRiI8HVU&t=20s

    You need to be careful trying to taper without doctors approval in Australia. The type of ‘care’ available can mean many more years of trauma. I think police have been warned about not asking question when issuing such beatings to people in need of ‘care’. Spraying pepper spray into someone’s eyes and asking “Do you like that?” cutting it close to the line regarding acts of torture. Don’t ask the questions during the beatings.

    This is not really much of an issue though, given the lack of any human rights for anyone considered an “Outpatient” and that this is the whole community given the State provides the ability for documents to be “edited” post hoc to conceal any and all human rights abuses and crimes by public officers. Forget the Articles of the Convention. “They will take their oaths as a cover”.

    To quote Saul of Tarsus in 2 Thessalonians “And God sends upon them a Great Delusion that they might believe the Lie”. It’s always good to see people being brought back to God though, and nothing like a little bit of torture to assist in that regard. Most of them calling out for His help in their time of need.

    I heard about a man who was late for his tee time at an exclusive golf club. He couldn’t find a parking spot and eventually said “God, if you find me a parking spot I will never get drunk again, and will go to church every Sunday”….. at that point a parking spot appeared right in front of him. He looked to the sky and said “Never mind, I found one”.

    I think the deliberate withholding of the facts relating to these drugs is summed up in an old Islamic saying;

    “The one who is silent about the truth is a dumb devil”

    It’s worth considering that saying very carefully.

  • Hi mariamangicaro,

    yes, my brother worked as a manger of the sex offender treatment unit for more than 25 years, so i’ve sort of kept up with the methods of ‘treatment’.

    I did actually speak at some lenght to the Speaker of the Lower House outside some offices in the city regarding the fact I had been kidnapped and tortured. His advice was to have a ‘one pager’.

    It seems that i’m pretty much at that point.

    Two people (one a psychologist with a Masters degree, the other my estranged wife) conspired to have me tortured and kidnapped. And they basically succeeded in this by having mental health services believe I was someone ‘patient’, and all they needed to do was to get me to talk (via an act of torture) and then have me transported unlawfully by police on a forged Form to the hospital. At that point the Senior Medical Officer could call the psychologist and she would release my medical records which she had access to at a Private Clinic (unlawful but, try doing something when your dribbling in a cell). Together they came up with a means of making my referral appear lawful.

    I was then examined by a consultant psychiatrist who could find nothing wrong with me and released me after 7 hours.

    The documents showed that I had been subjected to human rights abuses, and criminal conduct on the part of the Community Nurse, Senior Medical Officer. So they needed to be concealed form me and any legal representation I may have.

    I spoke to lawyers and they attempted to obtain the unredacted documents they were entitled to, and I make an FOI application (which I had dealt with as a public officer) and received some ‘redacted documents. Only after it appeared that the lawyers were going to be informed of the ‘spiking’ did I actually obtain that part of the documentation (the procurement by police as a result of the lie told about me being an “Outpatient” remained concealed. A known offense under our Criminal Code)

    As you can imagine, there was some concern on the part of the clinic psych regarding her involvement in the human rights abuses (advising my wife to ‘spike’ me with drugs she knew I didn’t take) and the criminal conduct such as conspiring to stupefy and commit an indictable offence etc. And me wandering around with the documents trying to have police do something about these offenses.

    What she wasn’t aware of was that the police were never going to take the evidence/proof of their own involvement in acts of torture and kidnapping. But she was obviously concerned enough to have her husband (a psychiatrist) arrange to have me snuffed in the E.D. Dead men tell no tales.

    Problem being my wife had spoken to someone who realised what they were likely to do, and he was waiting when they were about to inject me with what is called a ‘hotshot’ (cocktail which results in the side effect of stopping someones heart)

    Once interrupted in that little bit of naughty, with police holding off on the taking of the proof of the offending, those who had arranged the ‘sting’ could then have police retrieve the documents I had, and complete the cover up by providing the lawyers with a set of fraudulent documents and what they call an “edited” legal narrative.

    This being the point that the State here is concealing acts of torture with “editing” of legal narratives, and the production of forged documents to create the illusion of lawfulness (see for example the forged prescription for the drugs I had been ‘spiked’ with to conceal a known criminal offence, and enable acts of torture).

    Whilst the attempt to have me killed in the E.D. may seem a serious matter, personally I’d be more concerned that there are people “editing” documents to conceal not only the original human rights abuses and crimes, but other offences which they have allowed to go to the critical point and then interrupted.

    It is noted in the Criminal Code that just because there was no chance of a crime succeeding, doesn’t meant the offence hasn’t occurred. They knew they would be interrupting the attempt…… but then left the people who committed such serious offences to maintain their positions in our ‘healthcare’ system?

    That is, until I turned up in a Police Station with the documents they thought had been retrieved, and they then weren’t sure as to who else had the documents, and paranoia struck deep (considering there may be consequences for the concealment of such matters given “no superior authority” where matters of torture are concerned)

    What it has exposed is that the State is enabling the “editing” of legal narratives to conceal some serious criminal matters, AND human rights abuses. And that those with a duty to ensure that something is done about those matters (lawyers, ‘advocates’) can be told to actively attack their own clients for the benefit of the State. Who after all would find replacing a psychiatrist who has the stomach for the stuff they are “editing” out of existence with their fraud, difficult. He shouldn’t have to worry about his wife (with a Masters degree no less) doing ‘remote’ detentions and arranging for citizens (and clients of the Private Clinic and University) to be tortured and referred once they open their mouths to be ‘verballed’.

    It’s not that they aren’t torturing people in my State, they are just getting it done with assistance of mental health services and then concealing the vile acts as being ‘healthcare’. And if you read Article 1 of the Convention against the use of Torture, this is as simple as a Community Nurse lying to Police and telling them that a citizen is his/her “Outpatient”. Then “Anything Goes”. And access to the protection of the law is denied because ‘patient’.

    It should be a concern for the whole community but …… crickets. Even the Statutory body whose role under the Act is to protect human rights will ‘unread’ documents to ‘unsee’ what they don’t want to see. I don’t suppose they would want Police knowing that they were on the list of people who HAD seen the documents.

    Profit maybe (not that any of these criminals will ever see inside a cell with police providing material assistance with their offending. Those places held for aboriginal children who stole a packet of colouring pencils from Piggly Wiggly), but in this instance it was more ‘political’. My anti psychiatry views and thoughts on ECT expressed to a Private Clinic psychologist whose husband is a Shock Doc also had a lot to do with it. Might be best that anyone who refuses such ‘treatment’ (at great cost) due to valid arguments be taken out. And with a State government prepared to “edit” documents relating to arbitrary detentions and torture (never mind the events at the E.D.) I don’t think the “added protections” are really functioning the way they suggested to the community.

    Without the documents, there would be no reason to even consider what I am saying. The fraud sent to the Law Centre would stand, and I would be a nutjob. With them there is a clear motive for what I am alleging, and probable cause to investigate but …….. would police want to investigate the little arrangement they have had with mental health services which has enabled them to obtain information via human rights abuses such as torture? Might be best they don’t take the evidence/proof and claim there was “insufficient evidence” and the “it might be best I don’t know about that”.

    The Human Rights Commission doesn’t deal with allegations of torture, and Lawyers for Human Rights don’t actually do anything to help anyone who has been tortured……and given the ‘system’ you wouldn’t normally get to make a complaint, mainly because you’d be receiving ‘forced treatment’ for your ‘illness’ or become another ‘unintended negative outcome’.

    The whole Convention worth absolutely nothing to these people. No threatening of witnesses? Police had the psychologist I spoke to afraid for the lives of his family, and trying to find out who else had the documents so they could then threaten them also. Threatening my wife to retrieve the documents so they could send the fraud to the lawyers? ‘refouler’ in the E.D.?

    I’ll close with a quote from Marcus Aurelius which I hold to be true. It has been the concealment of truth, or the pursuit of that concealment which has done untold harm to me and my family. Thus possibly the reason the ‘authorities’ care so little about the value of my life and would allow it to be taken for political convenience.

    “If anyone can show me and prove to me, that I am wrong in thought or deed, I will gladly change. I seek truth, which never yet hurt anybody. It is only persistence in self-delusion and ignorance which does harm”

  • Hi mariamangicaro,

    you seem to have quite a grip on the legal aspects related to these drugs.

    In Australia the State governments are enabling the covert drugging of citizens to incapacitate them and make taking them into custody easier. The ability to ‘plant’ items on them once icapacutated making the arbitrary detentions appear lawful….. however.

    There was a case of a man who claimed to have been ‘spiked’ in this manner (known to be being authorised by the State by allowing fraudulent documents to be prepared post hoc to conceal the criminal nature of the offending) who then poured gasoline over his children and set them on fire.

    There would be a defense for his action if he were allowed access to unedited documents showing that he had been drugged without his knowledge. Obviously such access would be denied by the State and the documents “edited” to ensure his conviction.

    One of the issues I see with the matters you describe above is that there is no consideration of those people (later to become ‘patients’ after the documents are “edited”) who are being drugged without their knowledge with these date rape drugs for the convenience of public officers. Later concealed by a doctor writing a prescription for them and making them their “Regular Medications”.

    And maybe the U.S. isn’t as ‘progressive’ in these matters as Australia, after all as was shown in the Kennedy Royal Commission, we had the ‘advanced coercive techniques’ being used in Guantanamo Bay available to the most junior of police back in the 1980s. Cattle prods and simulated drownings greasing the wheels of justice.

    Police being forced into ‘medical supervision’ with ‘referrals’ done to mental health to extract information the obvious solution to satisfy the bleeding heart liberals who don’t have the stomach for what needs to be done. These days it’s the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs and causing ‘acute stress reactions’ that are clearing the path to ‘confessions’ and ‘justice’ (along with the use of lawyers as paid informants. See Lawyer X, Nicola Gobbo The breaching of confidentiality at mental health services after chemically koshing citizens a concern though not one ever being voiced by anyone other than the victims)

    So what about those being drugged without their knowledge? Or doesn’t it happen? (the famous defense offered by the community here when they refuse to examine the proof. “they wouldn’t do that”)

  • “If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, it never happened—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death.”

    I spoke to a psychologist (one with a PhD) for more than a year about what I had been through. he helped me a lot……. at first.

    I managed to get back on my feet and went and spoke to a number of people regarding the “editing” of documents (one being a Member of Parliament who examined the two sets of documents in detail). But when I went to the Police and tried to make a complaint, they then rang mental health servies and asked that they come and pick me up because I was “hallucinating”.

    (I have since come to realise that this is how police deal with unwanted complaints, arbitrarily detain and refer to mental health for a chemical kosh, rather than take a complaint. called ‘stitching’ where I live.)

    So after police realised that the psychologist had seen the documents they thought had been retrieved to conceal the human rights abuses, they then had to take a different tack with me. Trying to arrest me for having my medical records (which I explained I had obtained via FOI). Sot hey had to get me out of the Police Station without taking the documented proof of the offenses…… so they pretended to copy them and sent me on my way with an Incident Report Number (came back “insufficient evidence” mainly due to their willful negligence).

    So I go back to the psychologist and we have a laugh about the police calling him and trying to have me referred for “hallucinating”. The Social Worker who was with me at the Police Station confirmed in an email to us that I gave no such appearance.

    As you would expect, they must have wondered about the ‘flag’ placed on me to not take the documents, and reported back to the source of that ‘flag’………..

    So then I go back to the psychologist and as a result of my laptop being stolen and other ‘strange’ occurrences……and I make mention of the Police trying to refer me to him (I had also told him about the meeting with the Member of Parliament).

    Without being able to look me in the eye, the psychologist tells me “it never happened” (reread that Orwell quote again). Something we both knew had happened, he was now denying to my face. This and his questioning of me with regards “who else has the documents?”

    I explained that I had provided them to a large number of people, Members of Parliament, MH Commissioner, Corruption watchdog, …. a homeless guy at the traffic lights with a sign (“edited”) saying “need food for family”. At that point he sort of panicked, and said he was afraid for his family (and given what I had told him about what they had done to mine, I don’t really blame him)

    But I had no idea Police were using psychologists at mental health as a means to access information they would otherwise not get access to. That is, who else had the documents showing their use of torture and kidnaping of me for a Community Nurse…. which was then “edited” for my legal representatives. That and the theft of my laptop because well….. I was chatting with you guys here and …….had spoken to some people who might have recognised a ‘pattern’. The bucket was leaking really badly, and police weren’t sure who knew, and who they could trust with their covering up. Honest, it was all Adolf’s idea.

    Not that any help has been forthcoming, double down again and cover up the bad cover up of the cover up. I did try my Consulate but it seems that they too find looking the other way the best policy when it comes to these sorts of matters…. human rights abuses that is. they too have families.

    I guess what I’m saying is that a lot of people talk tough. The ‘i’d have stood up for the Jews had I been there in Germany’. the fact is they will willingly throw you under the bus at the first sign of trouble. They are hypocrites, and will do exactly nothing to help anyone but themselves. I’m assuming that most of the survivors of the camps are fully aware of this, and it’s a horrible reality to find out that this is the government you offered your life to protect…… only to be knifed in the back with a fountain pen.

    But I assume things are different in America, and that when people say “they wouldn’t do that” it is because there are people who will actually do something about such corruption and human rights abuses. See for example “Betraying the Badge” where Federal Officers ensure the integrity of the Police rather than actively corrupt it for gain.

    So good luck with the lawsuit. But just keep in mind that there are people who will use their positions to “fucking destroy” you and your families, and they have the full support of the State in that regard. See, they have one advantage over you, you didn’t even know your an “Outpatient”…. but you will be with a little bit of “editing” post forced drugging and electricity for your ‘hallucinating’

  • LSD can help with that. And it would then be correcting the chemical imbalance causing the disorder. Which would please my local drug dealer no end, because his function in society would take a step in the right direction. Having police deliver his ‘clients’ to him handcuffed and being able to force them to take their ‘medicine’…. for a fee.

  • I know that I weep when I see parents whose children have died, attempting to get some redress via the court system.

    I fear that they are simply not aware of what the State means by “edited” documentation.

    So for example, as a means of meeting the Articles of the Convention against the use of torture, the Chief Psychiatrist has opened a path for legal representatives, on provision of a confidentiality agreement, to have access to unredacted documents (no hiding acts of torture that way). Problem being that the hospitals are then in a position where they don’t really want to hand over the documents showing acts of torture and arbitrary detentions, or any other criminality that their colleagues may have been involved in.

    They are then in a position where they would need to request the lawyers to engage in a criminal conspiracy to pervert the course of justice (which they obviously wouldn’t want to do in writing, bad enough they are doing it on the telephone)

    So, knowing that the parents or guardians wouldn’t know what the lawyers had been provided with, they “edit” the legal narrative.

    In my instance that “editing” changed the facts that I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs to them being my “Regular Medications” (fraudulent prescription), AND that I had been an “Outpatient” of the hospital concerned for more than ten years, rather than someone who was NOT a ‘patient’ of anyone (remove the documents showing no valid referral source for someone Police were told was an “Outpatient” with a knife, collapsed in his bed after being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and insert other misleading documents creating the appearance of an “Outpatient”)

    Any further complaining about the matter and the people complaining are now poisoning their character with the fraud prepared for precisely that purpose, to slander them, and have them do it t themselves. Those who know what the ‘coding’ of the documents means will no doubt assist in that slandering. In my instance complaining about being ‘spiked’ was my paranoid delusions and not a fact because they had retrieved the evidence……. well, so they thought. Did I mention he carries a knife? Or so police told me, …… well, they didn’t actually find it but it was planted for them to find…… as good as finding it right? So I am now ‘flagged’ with police as a mental patient who carries a weapon, not bad for someone starting with nothing but a phone call.

    This sort of “editing” compounds the offending, and when you add to this the forging of a letter of response from the Chief Psychiatrists by the Law Centre to complete the cover up of such human rights abuses…… there could not possibly be a ‘fair’ outcome for anyone other than ‘mental health services’ who are quite adamant that they will “fucking destroy” you and your family should you decide to proceed where they know they have a need to conceal their abuses. And they have quite the support network in place to ensure their success, with police able to retrieve any offending evidence/proof of their misconduct, and threaten and intimidate anyone who was a witness to the violations.

    So the laws appear to provide protections from such human rights abuses, but it is a literal death sentence to try and access those protections should there be a need to conceal their offending by compounding the offences.

    Not a lot of options other than obstructing justice once there are a whole bunch of ‘eyes’ on the matter, and Police are wondering “who else has got the documents”. Okay, caught but there is nowhere for you to go with a complaint because the State doesn’t torture, they merely “edit” documents post hoc to forge the narrative they want to be true.

    I’m sure there are many here who have personally witnessed, and in fact even participated in such “editing”. And ‘we’ understand your silence. Plenty of room at the Hotel California.

    So I weep along with the doctors who have no choice in remaining silent over the death of a 7 year old girl, knowing that the legal narrative being presented to the Coroner is likely to have been “edited”.

    Orwell wrote in 1984 that “If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, it never happened—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death.”. And from personal experience, I know he was right.

    I read an old comment I had made in 2018 this morning, someone wondering what I had done to deserve what had been done to me. Beyond the victim blaming, it’s an interesting question. My first mistake calling the use of electricity a “barbaric practice” to the wife of a shock Doc working in a private clinic as a psychologist, and who had knowledge of how to do ‘remotes’ and access the State sanctioned kidnapping and torture program. Though I’m sure that being an anti psychiatrist was NOT why they justified my ‘treatment’ (no political ‘outcomings’ and all that rubbish), and the fabricated lie about my wife saying I was an abuser? Interesting the uses that ‘mental health services’ can be put to in that regard. Though I think that the drugging of such abusers may actually increase the likelihood of intimate partner violence and homicide. See the guy who was also possibly ‘spiked’ and who then set his own children on fire …. legal narrative changed to “Regular Medications”?

    A song for all those who are aware of what it is the State is doing to conceal their human rights abuses disguised as ‘medicine’.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqhOVY58zIo

  • I agree with you Joshua.

    My own situation has exposed the way the State has been enabling the “editing” of legal narratives to conceal the human rights abuses they are enabling with their negligence. Public Officers being allowed to arbitrarily detain and torture using the mental health facilities no doubt producing valuable information for the State.

    There are of course those who would also recognise an opportunity in that ‘dark place’ created to enable such evil deeds. Political advantage of being able to silence anyone who disagrees with your view of the world.

    And what if those using that place for their own nefarious ends actually exposed the whole kit and caboodle? The State literally caught with their pants down, despite having the resources of police and mental health services to find out “who else has the documents?”

    I know the Shadow Minister for Mental Health found it extremely amusing. Though unable to outright say what it was he found so amusing. I think the statement he made outside of Parliamentary privilege that “the Minister has been derelict in her duty” (ie committed an act of serious misconduct) gave a clue.

    With such power it would be easy to assume that covering up human rights abuses (police and mental health torturing citizens) for a few political favors may be of benefit. I’m sure the ‘opposition’ would have had some concerns though given their vulnerable position in being snatched from their beds and ‘unintentionally negatively outcomed’.

    Particularly given I had sat next to a Politician in the clinic waiting to see the same ‘doctor’. Careful where you step there ‘Minister’, they’re doing ‘remotes’. You might wake up in a cell dribbling from the mouth waiting for your next ‘shock treatment’ until you ‘confess’ your ‘sins’ (any wonder the Treasurer fled the State when Police were looking for him to do a ‘referral’ for ‘treatment’? All got a bit difficult to explain and his ‘confidentiality’ needed to be observed by the media. Don’t ask, or else……)

    Best not expose it though, because once IN power, it’s a valuable tool to have access to. So threaten to expose the ‘little network’ and watch as the government dismantles itself with the paranoia caused by that threat. Nothing like honor among thieves huh? They couldn’t wait to spill the beans on each other once they knew the game was up.

    Worked a treat, and we now have a government which makes the grip on power that the CCP has in China look like a democracy. The now ‘opposition’ holding 2 seats in our lower house (fair enough, they tried the Nazi thing and it failed). The Right side of politics absolutely gutted for years to come.

    “They will take their oaths as a cover” (exploitation of trust and ‘confidentiality’)

    “Do not conceal truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth when you know what it is” (“editing” of legal narratives to conceal human rights abuses by ‘mental health facilities’ Obviously a knife can be used to cut your meal, or as a weapon. Disguising the real purpose of the weapon as being for good quite an advantage over a trusting community. Especially when they get zero time to respond to being snatched and force drugged, documents being unlawfully held back while they arrange the narrative for the courts. And ‘advocates’ wander aimlessly saying ‘If the Chief Psychiatrist wants to rewrite the law, and remove the protections afforded the community, who are we to complain?’)

    Both ‘sides’ obviously content with the use of these facilities for these purposes. And both wanting to relax the rules around the protections afforded the community, mainly because it seems the only people not getting mentally ill these days are them? There ‘enemies’ are all around them, and only need to be asked for their votes every once in a while. And they do have to vote, to create the illusion of a democracy.

  • If this article has caused you any concerns call NoLifeline on 1800 eat shit.

    Seriously though, you make a good point with your questions

    “What impact does this have on the culture at large and people’s thinking? Does it give people the idea that they can just apply some technique or simply sift the data, think rationally and be different to how they have been, probably for most of their lives?

    The illusion of the quick fix and radical individual transformation is everywhere – We also seem to be losing the ability to think of ourselves outside of medicalised language, we’re all mentally ill now it seems.

    This also seems to be useful for power because it de-contextualises and depoliticises distress.Why bother making the world fit for human thriving when its all between your ears.”

    The mass herding of people into ‘mental health services’ seems to be a stage of progression with National Socialism. This is no mean feat to take people from thinking about those few people who have some serious biologically based mental issues (the “mentally ill”), to having them think of their fellow citizens as being one step away from a mass shooting.

    The rise of the politics of fear.

    With this shift there needs to be a mechanism for screening large numbers of people for processing. Ensuring that when it goes wrong, that it becomes justification for the removal of more rights, and more money to be put into ‘research’ (Ever see a kid benefit from the large amounts of money going into childhood cancer research? I know I’ve seen the nice cars being bought with the money, but the kids don’t have licenses to drive them).

    “we’re all mentally ill now it seems.”

    In fact, in Australia this is a true statement, our Chief Psychiatrist has made anyone who isn’t an “Inpatient” into an “Outpatient”. We have all had our rights removed and they can simply call police and have us arbitrarily detained at any time, and delivered for the ‘treatments’, no right to consent or bodily autonomy.

    Sounds crazy I know, and well, the people who have looked had to unlook. No point making noise when you can be ‘assisted’ to voluntarily die, and the legal narrative “edited” by the State for convenience. So much for the protections afforded by the law that our politicians (who need to work with the corrupt networks which are forming) so often boast about. Those “added protections” who they never identify the beneficiaries of to the community.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=4s

    The “concerning aspects” of this detention requiring “added protections” for those doing the ‘detaining’ for mental health services. And the quid pro quo in the ‘induced coma’ while the legal narrative is “edited” (and witnesses threatened) ensuring that politicians aren’t lying to us when we are told “there are added protections”.

    And who is going to stand up and provide legal services to this man, instead of turning a blind eye and throwing him under a bus when the media no longer gets any clicks from the matter?

    It’s quite clever, and highly effective, relying on psychological techniques used by the National Socialists all those years ago. In fact, there is a myth in this country that people have a right to confidentiality (easily proven false). The methods being employed are the exploitation of trust, necessary in the war against the people who elect our politicians.

    The medical fraternity providing information which is offered to them (but would be denied to police) to ‘authorities’ as a means of breaking down resistance (see Franz Fanon Wretched of the Earth for the method used by lawyers and psychiatrists to have their ‘clients’ sent ot the guillotine in Algeria). And in fact, given no means to make a complaint regarding your ‘treatment’ those who are presented with opportunities to extract information using the more aggressive coercive techniques, would do well to take them. And I note the screams that haunted the torturers seeking help from Fanon. has been removed by sedating the victims first. “added protections” ….. for those administering the treatments, not so much for those on the receiving end. Though I’m sure the community appreciates the “added protections”.

    Money from snake oil, and power in the form of the dismantling of the rights paid for in blood by our forefathers (and mothers in some instances) with a pen.

    “suspect on reasonable grounds that the person be made an INVOLUNTARY PATIENT” (with Criteria set out plainly in the Mental Health Act as to who this is referring to, and an offence punishable by prison to NOT meet those criteria) becomes “need only ‘suspect’ that the person requires examination by a psychiatrist” (which is NOT set out in the Mental Health Act, and which are commonly called human rights abuses and ‘suss laws’).

    Now this misrepresentation was written by our Chief psychiatrist, the person who gives “expert legal advice to the Minister” and who is charged with protecting “consumers, carers and the community”, and yet he isn’t aware of the protections he should be affording? Isn’t aware he doesn’t actually have the power to rewrite our laws without Parliamentary approval?

    Even Himmler had to ask Hitler to have the laws changed after Josef Hartinger pointed out the ‘little issue’ with the political killings being done at Dachau. Imagine the problem for the State when the United Nations made it clear that the State IS responsible for crimes committed by public officers? (Corrina Horvath) No washing your hands of them as being bad apples now, and enacting “added protections” that the ‘public’ wants (based on a opinions of our ‘elected representatives’, though don’t tell the public before an election what they want).

    If this were the case they should have passed laws brining back executions, as most of the public wants that more than euthanasia laws. Though with the “editing” of legal narrative being allowed by the State is it really necessary when it could be done in facilities other than prisons?

    And do you think I can get a lawyer to take a look at what the State calls “editing”? Mind you, no one really wants the Shutzstaffel breaking down your door to retrieve documents that would be an embarrassment showing that human rights abuses are being “edited” out of legal narratives before being provided to the ‘legal representatives’ of victims of those abuses. Think the situation with Lawyer X/Nicola Gobbo was bad? You should see what is being done with the marriage of police and mental health services in this State. Though they do have the “added protection” of it not being torture if it is “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction”.

    And I note our government needed to follow suit from Himmlers diaries, and pass Euthanasia Laws. No discussion in the lead up to the election, we were simply told that 87% of the public wants these laws (and they refused to release the proof of this statement). The laws bulldozed through, and police dug up the wrong corpse to ensure that the laws could be applied retrospectively.

    So what impact does it have on a culture? I look forward to seeing the progression into full scale fascism. I’m sure this time they will get it right.

    To paraphrase a famous Jewish political commentator ‘Not only does the population not know what’s going on, they don’t even know they don’t know what’s going on’ Simply walking into the showers thinking “they wouldn’t do that, the rumors’ can’t be true”. If I had a dollar for every time I’d heard that rock solid defense.

    Look away people, it will never happen to you or your loved ones. You have the “added protections”. The same ones afforded Japanese Americans in 1940.

  • Holy Moses, psychiatry’s relationship with Police on display.

    Not sure if police are using mental health services to extract information from ‘citizens’ (who are easily made “Outpatients” for the purpose of ‘coercing’ and well….. torturing if you consider the unlawful detention a means to exploits the loophole of the Convention. Not applicable in the US hence possibly a lack of understanding of how to do this).

    As you can imagine, the ability to use doctors such as Selwyn Leeks for the ‘treatment’ of ‘patients’, and of course providing the doctor with a list of questions you would like answered is of great benefit to the State. In fact, so much that they are enabling the “editing” of legal narratives and the concealment of crimes committed by public officers to get people the ‘treatment’ they need ……….to have them ‘confess’ or provide the information required by police.

    I sort of accidentally came across this when the Police thought they had retrieved documents showing them doing arbitrary detentions for mental health, who in turn torture and then conceal that torture with “editing” of legal narrative. “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” makes it NOT torture, hence the “edited” narrative changes the act post hoc.

    Denial of access to legal representation, and the most bizarre letter of response from the Chief Psychiatrist (yeah, we know …… it’s sometimes necessary to torture, and we will look the other way while you enable it) doing a cover up.

    Problem being that I still had the documents showing the crimes….. so police concealing the ‘little arrangement’ they have with mental health services to exploit the unique position they find themselves in (in return for some assistance with arbitrary detentions) being exposed? So then they had to steal my laptop, and threaten the psychologist I had been speaking to and have him find out “Who else has got the documents?”

    I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’ve got no real problem with police torturing people, and in fact no real problem with the ….ehem…… ‘unintended negative outcomes’ being done by the State to ensure their reputation isn’t tarnished. I mean people are not going to willingly attend these services if they are aware of their real function (thinking of the shower trick here, always leave them with that faint glimmer of hope that “They wouldn’t do that”).

    But I do have a problem with a Private Clinic psychologist with a Masters degree selling information to the public as to how they can use the little ‘coercion program’ being run by police and mental health to have someone kidnapped and subjected to torture. The State then responsible for mopping up the mess with their “editing”.

    And then there is the problems caused by what to do with the ‘complainant’, given that police are now looking the other way while ‘doctor’ extracts the information with the chemical kosh or electricity. Thankfully someone interrupted that little accident that was arranged but …….. then they had to cover up because the State can’t have these people being held to account…… they’re enabling them in their human rights abusing (and setting up plausible deniability as a means of defending their positions) In the case of the Chief Psychiatrist actually removing the protections afforded the community by the law (care to see the letter anyone?)

    If police are arbitrarily detaining and using mental health to torture, and mental health are then “editing” the documents and police refuse to take evidence of that “editing” and identify the offences?

    Yeah I get it why y’all are not looking at the documents.

    Wander in the desert for 40 years with your ‘chemical imbalance’ myth. Worshiping the golden calf?

    They’ve been covering up police using mental health for purposes other than designed. That really is disgraceful when you think about it, and no wonder they simply ignore the facts ….. because the truth would expose their cognitive dissonance regarding their outward claim of honor, and their inward belief that sometimes a little torture can be for good right?

    $200, and a little bit of preparation for access to the State sanctioned kidnapping and torture program? Bargain if you ask me, because they took everything, and I mean everything. And now, despite being fully aware of the level of offending, they simply ignore the truth.

    Still imagine if police didn’t have access to a means of torturing citizens using mental health services as ‘informants’ and some of the more zealous ‘practitioners’ who will actively harm to obtain information?

    The police sure will miss Selwyn Leeks. The use of an ECT machine on the testicles of a 12 year old boy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LE0KpcP05I

  • Funny, but they had the same trouble with the identification and treatment of ‘witches’.

    In the end I suppose it’s an individual thing, and leaving it to the experts to devise ‘tests’ would seem to result in a bunch of people driving themselves insane, and having exclusive conferences where they demonstrate the levels of their insanity to each other.

    All the while good witches are dying whilst hoping for the promised breakthrough.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf71YotfykQ

    As someone who was diagnosed with a serious mental illness by a Community Nurse as a result of a phone call between him and my wife, later to be undiagnosed by a consultant psychiatrist after I had been delivered by police for treatment of the illness I was diagnosed with by the Nurse over the phone, I find all this diagnosing and undiagnosing confusing.

    One minute I have it, and then a few hours later it’s gone. Might it have had to do with the need to have an ‘illness’ to conceal the crimes the Community Nurse was committing? Can he really make me an “Outpatient” of his hospital as a result of a phone call from a bus driver who has ‘spiked’ me with date rape drugs, and would like me subjected to an ‘acute stress reaction’ by police to force me to talk?

    And my what a ‘weapon’ when you consider the uses this can be put to by making any citizen into an “Outpatient” with zero accountability, and then being able to have police beat them into confessions, while the mental health professional watches proceedings, labelling the resulting behaviours an ‘illness’. (see the quote from the Chief Psychiatrist stating that the observable behaviours are what matters, the beatings and forced covert drugging’s are just the ‘patient’ offering “justifiable explanations” for the behaviour, and do not matter in the “clinical picture”. Meaning it is simply a matter of torturing citizens and the resulting behaviour can then justify their ‘treatment’. And this guy is our Chief Psychiatrist?)

    And I can give the verbatim quote if you like but what he is saying is that this man;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=4s

    would be offering “justifiable explanations” for the illness he was diagnosed with as a result of the way he was ‘treated’. He was actng like a nut after they beat him up, so he does have an ‘illness’ right? His chemicals are unbalanced now. Forget about the “concerning aspects” of his detention, he needed treatment, shown by his “observable behaviours”.

    Personally I don’t think he would have behaved in the manner he did, nor require putting into an induced coma (Chemically koshed at the E.D. to allow the legal narrative to be sorted out before he was allowed access to any legal representation) if it wasn’t for police running him down with a motor vehicle, and then stomping on his head with their boots. Just a matter of where to “edit” the legal narrative and start with the story you want to determine your outcome. In my case, the Chief Psychiatrist didn’t like the law so he rewrote it, and started with me being an “Outpatient” before the Community Nurse left the hospital, with police believing I was a ‘mental patient’ in possession of a knife he had arranged to have planted on me when I had collapsed from the ‘spiking’ with benzos..

    Oh….. and someone send police out to my home to retrieve the documents proving what i’m saying would they please? It wouldn’t look good someone having the proof of the uttering with the forged documents produced to conceal human rights abuses. The community might realise what is REALLY going on in these places over the barbed wire fences.

    Not a lot new under the sun

  • Ah yes, I remember the scene when Cool Hand Luke was digging his own grave.

    You know, the ‘collaborative process’ between prisoner and prison guards?

    Our police have only been given ‘shoot to kill’ orders recently, you think they are going to take a step backwards now they have that? Though I think the powers to “edit” legal narratives for the courts, to deny access to effective legal representation, and remove protections afforded by our laws with misrepresentations are much more dangerous.

    There can be no ‘collaboration’ when the provisions of the Mental Health Act are being exploited to enable acts of torture and arbitrary detentions, concealed by making anyone whose human rights they wish to abuse an “Outpatient”.

    I suppose I wouldn’t mind if they had a cure for the reaction to their acts of torture and arbitrary detentions, but the chemical kosh could hardly be called a ‘cure’.

    Collaboration in my State consists of ‘Hi, i’d like to make a complaint regarding being tortured, and I have the proof here in these documents’…. Minister for Health ‘Get treated’.

    Any wonder they can point fingers at other Nations, when there is no effective means to make a complaint DESPITE the provisions of the Convention? All roads lead to Rome, and the torturers make a decision as to what constitutes torture, and have the power to deny access to legal representation and “edit” documents should they not like what they see.

  • Glad to see some ‘good news’ being published.

    My ‘family’ was deliberately “fucking destroyed” due to me trying to make a complaint about a hospital which falsely labelled me their “Outpatient” and then had police torture and arbitrarily detain me after ‘spiking’ me with date rape drugs.

    I find it positively amazing what you can make ‘medical care’ with a little bit of document “editing” (commonly called criminal fraud unless you have the full support of corrupt police, Which is no doubt returned in kind via corrupt mental health workers)

    “A good end cannot sanctify evil means, nor must we ever do evil, that good may come of it” W. Penn.

    The vicious slander of labelling me an “Outpatient” to enable the police to cause an ‘acute stress reaction’ in someone who had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs has done no end of harm to my life and family. The maintaining of that fraud and the uttering with known forged documents produced via a corrupt practice of ‘verballing’ and acts of torture bringing about no good for anyone other than criminals. Criminals who have gone on to harm others while those uttering with the fraud to conceal the human rights abuses and crimes simply ignore the facts in the face of their own gross criminal negligence.

    Zero accountability a promise from our elected representatives for corrupt police and mental health workers to get the job done, and fuck anyone who dares complain. (a Member of Parliament telling me after examining the documents police thought had been retrieved…. “I have to work with police”. Despite the fact they are torturing, and then concealing the facts via “editing” and negligence, the people who elect you? Hmmmm went to bed in Australia and woke up to the junta in Myanmar)

    The public too afraid for the safety of their own families to even raise the issue with the likes of our Chief Psychiatrist, who has rewritten the Mental Health Act to remove the protections afforded the community by the law, and enabled arbitrary detentions and acts of torture in the process. Of course, there is the possibility that this letter too was forged, given the way the legal representatives have been throwing their clients under a bus for material gain in the form of State funding. With nowhere to go to access the legal protections, is it any wonder Police and mental health are of the opinion that accountability where acts of torture is concerned is to be laughed about?

    Glad to hear you still have a family Sascha. Your lucky to not be living in a place where your ‘history’ would enable someone to take that all from you with a telephone call to a corrupt mental health practitioner supported by corrupt police in his vile deeds.

    I know the psychologist who did actually provide me with some assistance became afraid for his family once he realised that my claims were actually true, and he had seen the documented proof. I’ve no doubt he now provides police with information they would otherwise not get access to via breaches of trust of his clients (“who else has got the documents?”). So your ‘personal information’ is not really personal when police start threatening and intimidating anyone who has examined documented proof of their corruption.

    You want to thank your lucky stars you live in a place where your legal representation is protected, and your right to make a complaint doesn’t result in public officers viciously attacking you and your family to “fucking destroy” you. All this while Police utter with known fraudulent documents to enable the abuses of mental health services in doing so.

    And they all but a few turn their backs on you, preferring lies to the truth.

    I haven’t seen my daughter or grandchildren in more than 10 years as a result of the crimes committed by this Community Nurse (concealed by others with further offending). And not a soul prepared to correct his lie due to the consequences of the truth they worked so hard to conceal. So much for Australians valuing a rule of law. “standing by their mates….”.

    All it takes for evil to conquer is for good people to do nothing. Which wouldn’t be difficult in a place where there are so few good people.

    I suppose that the community being aware that Police are using mental health services to torture might mean resistance from those they deliver to the locked ward for ‘treatments’. Might be best they are not aware of the real purpose of their ‘treatments’? A psychological technique used quite effectively by the National Socialists.

  • “but those in power have had their bases covered for a long time.”

    How true. The ability to “edit” legal narrative” to fit the desired outcome a major benefit to the State. The current Coronial Inquiry into the death of a child one example. S light change in the documentation, a few threats to the staff (“it never happened”) and there isn’t a chance that anyone would be held accountable.

    And with the lie that their ‘treatments are effective’ and that ‘your chemicals have become imbalanced’, they can subject people to the most vile abuses, and then have them ‘referred’ for ‘treatment’ when they break down.

    I’m sure the grief of the parents will no doubt justify electricity to their heads should they spot the “editing” during proceedings and ask their shills…… I mean lawyers to do something about it. Show the video again and make them leave the court for this bit.

    When the cure for torture is torture, and they can’t see why there might be a problem, best they are left to their own ‘devices’.

    And how easy is it for ‘them’ to simply ignore the facts and evidence? Simple, ‘flag’ the ‘problem’ as an “Outpatient” and give them the ‘treatment’.

    And what worked best of all in my situation (and I’ve no doubt in many others) was to maintain the lie. DESPITE knowing it was a lie. Commonly called uttering, except when the outcome depends on the lie.

    Spending the forged $100 note despite knowing it was a forgery? Using a forged statutory declaration produced via an act of torture and then writing “The reasons listed on the Form 1 are considered to be reasonable grounds”? Same offense (though the consequences are much more serious when the Chief Psychiatrist is doing it and people are being harmed as a direct result), but when you are above the law (and in fact actually rewriting it to remove the protections afforded the community with no need for Parliamentary approval), not a lot anyone can do about your gross criminal negligence right? The concealment of the other offences by the failure to do due diligence, and check the facts. See for example the way the failure to provide unedited documents to the Law Centre was dealt with in ‘his’ letter.

    Which would explain the reasons no one wants anything done about the ‘pathway’ to the ‘unintended negative outcomes’ (a Euthanasia Act “with more than a 100 protections” Non eof which are effective once the documents are “edited” before an independent legal representative can examine them.).

    Minus the ability to ‘outcome’ your mistakes, there would be a shift in power back to the people. And we can’t have the ‘Outpatients’ (that is anyone who isn’t an Inpatient) being protected by the law. Where would they be if they couldn’t ‘spike’ people and subject them to acts of torture, belt them over the head with the chemical kosh and electricity, empty their wallets and destroy their families, and then “edit” the documents and call it medicine?

    People might start asking inconvenient questions and expecting answers. Such people need treatments and there needs to be ways to get them that treatment when they need it which is……. when they try and access the protection of the law from criminals and corrupt public officers.

    The response to trying to make a complaint about torture from the State? “get treated’. Yeah, they have a lot of respect for the Conventions they ratified (including the Optional Protocols). There is no means to make a complaint, even when the attempt to “edit” the documents and remove the problem from existence has failed. “Who else has got the documents?”….. and knows the State is covering up arbitrary detentions and acts of torture with ‘outcomings’? Like the bird said “Ewwww That can’t look good”

    The door to a complaint has been welded shut, and no one ever gets the opportunity despite the Articles of the Convention. You will be swallowed up by ‘mental health services’ and be like the children who were being raped by Priests……. silenced for 40 years to ensure the perpetrators “character flaws” aren’t seen as crimes.

    And once the lie has been told that you are an “Outpatient” despite the facts showing otherwise, it simply becomes a matter of how to get you to ‘take your medicine’. Makes a nice little training exercise for some of the young uns.

  • The Chief Psychiatrist quote from above;

    “lt is noted Mr Boans provides justifiable explanations for what was listed. The presence of potential individual explanations regarding certain behaviours does not diminish the capacity of an AMHP to consider the broader clinical picture which may give grounds to suspect mental illness. Of importance is the observed behaviours of the patient which can represent a risk to the person or other however justifiable the reasons for behaviours may be.”

    Of importance are the observed behaviours of the PATIENT? Now it was pretty easy to see from the documents that I wasn’t anyone’s PATIENT, and that in fact the Community Nurse had simply LIED to police in that regard to have them cause an ‘acute stress reaction’ (usually a bashing for the ‘patient’, a few knee drops to the head and neck during restraint).

    And there is provision for those people who are referred by police under the relevant section to be considered “referred persons” (who have not yet been examined by a psychiatrist, but who police “suspect on reasonable grounds should be made an involuntary patient”.

    The Chief Psychiatrist is kind of jumping the gun here a bit by allowing a Community Nurse to make someone a ‘patient’ before they even assess them?

    Okay, so maybe the C.P. should back up a bit and examine the documents with that FACT in mind? Or maybe not, because then what he is looking at are a series of criminal matters which is not the preferred reality, and his “justifiable explanations” of why these criminals are not being held to account might not be accepted by a public being terrorised by arbitrary detentions and torture concealed by the Mental Health Act.

    Best he simply ignores the facts, and runs with the “edited” documents? Okay, now there’s a need to fabricate a justification for the Community Nurse…….oh the poor man was simply trying to help, and he felt so strongly about that he was prepared to commit offences to help. Offences he was warned about carrying a long prison term when he became an AMHP, but which he believes as a result of years of successful cover ups, he will never be held to account for.

    What an absolute disgrace, and such a shame that no one will even take a look because …. well, they are sure that the people who failed to cover it up, have done a much better job this time around. Must be nice to bury your mistakes, and then bury them again when they rise from the dead? And not a soul to check that there has been some form of fairness and justice in the ‘resolution’ (as opposed to “editing” realities you prefer no one looked at. Why conceal something you thought wasn’t wrong? Because you knew it was wrong? Mens rea. What was in the heart exposed.)

    Still, I suppose that keeping me imprisoned by denying me my property saves them having to cut off my fingers and flush me down the toilet after a hydrofluoric acid bath as ‘treatment’ should I ever get the right to speak to anyone ‘outside’ this vile place. Possibly the best $200 my wife ever spent of my money, considering the ‘profit’ made by denying me the right to a lawyer because the fraud was going to end up in the Federal Courts. Is this the new area of “Divorce Coaching” they are advertising on the tv? How to have your partner ‘fuking destroyed’ with a telephone call? Your brother, your son.) The use of ‘plausible deniability’ quite a good defense when people are neglecting their duty. Ask the Operations Manager who fuking destroyed me and my family. She was quite good at setting up scenarios. Many a patient committing suicide after one of her ‘operations’.

    And I don’t suppose the Community Nurse shows anyone asking him questions that he finds subjecting ‘patients’ to acts of torture funny. Though he does find time to laugh at anyone he has tortured, and who thinks that there is a system in place enabling them to make a complaint. Because there isn’t, despite the Articles of the Convention. His failure to recognise torture (if that’s their false claim…. possibly the “edited” version), a failure of the State under the Articles.

  • An don’t misunderstand me here.

    It’s not like there was any sort of ‘medicine’ going on. Looking back it was fairly obvious that the psychologist was merely positioning herself as a ‘spotter’. Identify people with ‘secrets’ to keep, and wallets to be emptied. Make referrals to someone who can ‘assist ‘ in that regard.

    Car Salesmen have a similar system in place, though they can’t use an electrical chord plugged into the 240 volt to make you sign to purchase the car. And then have police make you come back in a months time for another trade in.

    But how do you get such people into ‘treatment’ in the first instance? Having a corrupt Community Nurse in your pocket who will make people into an “Outpatient” before calling police and lying would be handy. Especially if they then knew a doctor who would sign for the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs post hoc and conceal the offending. In fact, use the effects of the ‘spiking’ as symptoms of the illness that needs to be ‘treated’ with the date rape drugs? And I can confirm it works very well. The description of my reaction to the ‘spiking’ used as evidence I needed to be ‘spiked’….. and the Chief Psychiatrist writes’

    “lt is noted Mr Boans provides justifiable explanations for what was listed. The presence of potential individual explanations regarding certain behaviours does not diminish the capacity of an AMHP to consider the broader clinical picture which may give grounds to suspect mental illness. Of importance is the observed behaviours of the patient which can represent a risk to the person or other however justifiable the reasons for behaviours may be.”

    So if your ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and it looks like a mental illness, you will be taken by police to a locked ward where the drugs you were ‘spiked’ with will be made into your “Regular Medications” and you will be injected with that drug and a cocktail of other drugs for the symptoms your exhibiting?

    Is it me, or does anyone else see a problem with this ‘model of care’? And keep in mind, the AMHP had made me into an “Outpatient” before he even left the hospital to meet with police, so the idea of “observed behaviours” seems a bit rich given the decision that I was going to be bashed by police to force me to talk and then ‘verballed’ in his Forms to make it appear lawful to detain me? This guy hadn’t even laid eyes on me yet, and he had me diagnosed with a mental illness and I was now his “Outpatient”. A Nurse doing diagnoses and prescribing covert drugging’s? They really are short staffed huh?

    I wasn’t offering “justifiable explanations” I was suggesting this guy was a criminal, and that the Chief Psychiatrist was uttering with his fraudulent documents which were fabricated using an act of torture.

    But then the Chief Psychiatrist trumped me by removing the protections afforded the community by the law, and denying me access to any legal representation, who would have had a right to examine unredacted documents, but which he (the C.P.) would ensure did not occur via his negligence and obstruction of human rights protections (while they sorted the little problem out)

    Funny really when you think about it. “justifiable explanations” well, what I was saying was that it would have been impossible for the “Observed behaviour” to have been observed, because (a) I don’t believe my “thoughts” can be observed, and (b) the AMHP would have needed to travel back in time 4 weeks to actually make such observations. (cue the theme music from Dr Who)

    So I disagree with the C.P. on the advances in psychiatry in that regard also.

    And please consider carefully that we have here absolute proof that the effects of these drugs actually causes the symptoms they describe as being a ‘mental illness’. In fact, they are weaponising such information and using it to incarcerate people unlawfully. Their “justifiable explanation” that the ‘illness’ was caused by the intoxicant administered without their knowledge, is justification enough to incarcerate and force drug. And once laid out with the ‘chemical kosh’, you won’t be waking up for about 4 weeks. Maybe some dribbling in the ‘cage’ and then gradual release to the open wards.

    Commit the crime and they will provide you with assistance in concealing it (and others will do the “editing” and make false claims of ‘good faith’ crimes). I don’t really think that this is ‘medicine’ but by maintaining the LIE of “Outpatient”, despite being aware it is uttering, one can deny access to the protection of the law. And police will assist in the fucking destruction of the complainant. Showing how much they respect the Charter of Health Care Rights, and of course the human rights they so often boast about being “worlds best practice” at.

    The only thing they are good at is cover ups and threats and intimidation, fraud, slander and the hypocrisy which is clear for all to see.

    There is of course a narrative that may run through this of “Oh the Community Nurse did what he thought was for the best, given the situation”. And that narrative would be wrong, and would fall apart should anyone even try and put it forward. He KNEW what he was doing was criminal, and did it anyway, knowing that others would simpy close ranks and continue offending until the problem was resolved (in a rather ugly manner it would seem. Though with “edited” documents such ‘assisted dying’ would now be lawful). And the damage done? Well, only to me and my family…… and I assume a lot of other families given his ten years of respite from accountability by the negligence of authorities.

  • “Clients must have the savvy to avoid this type of treatment”

    Yeah, one can try.

    I make mention during ‘therapy’ of the problem my wifes family was having with her nephew. He had been removing tiles from the roof of his ‘girlfriends’ home to gain entry to the property. Then beating and choking her after smashing the door to the bathroom to get to her (“demolished” the term she used when describing this event). The kids who are watching this are falling asleep at school, and mother is being threatened with the kids being taken from her as a result. The father of the young man (brother in law) then goes and repairs the damage being done by his son whose methamphetamine problem is getting worse. Looks like he was on a path to a homicide but …. he’s just a little misunderstood I am told.

    Now, the ‘nephew’ has been causing some problems for a number of people, and in fact has caused some issues for drug dealers, and he then heads home to mom and dads and is spending his days there.

    So I speak to the ‘therapist’ about this issue, and she suggests that I tell the parents that the Outlaw Motorcycle Gang who has been effected by his ‘snitching’ has a code of honor which ‘punishes’ the closing of a meth lab. It will result in their home being firebombed.

    So the Therapist suggested that I inform the father and mother of the danger they were in. Whilst they may have been upset with my disgust with their sons conduct, and had started threatening me as a result of me ensuring he stayed away from our home, that they be told “Your place will be firebombed should your son be allowed to stay there”.

    Personally I found such advice a little …. I don’t really know what I’d call it. Anyway, I just find such advice not really helpful.

    So when my ‘referral’ to this ‘therapist’ expired I really had no reason to be returning to her for $200 pieces of ‘wisdom’ from the Outlaw Motorcycle Gang members she was ‘counselling’. Doing a few ‘remotes’ maybe? A few ‘cashies’ referred to hubby for ECT? Where’s your ‘witnesses’ now Copper? lmao

    Shame that the therapist and my wife thought otherwise, and were prepared to ‘spike’ me with date rape drugs (a psychologist with a Masters degree doesn’t have any prescribing rights in my State, and is NOT a doctor) and plant items on me to ensure that my ‘illness’ was ‘assessed’ after I was made an “Outpatient” by a Community Nurse and then Police used to point weapons at me and force me to talk (called torture if it is done in Ghana, but called referral after document “editing” in Australia).

    See, before my wife attended the appointment she had made in my name at this Private Clinic, I had said to her “Do not speak with that woman, she is trouble”, thinking I had a right to not speak with her given she no longer had any rights over me (referral to clinic expired, no means of making a lawful referral, hence the need to commit serious criminal offences to have me talk to someone about my decision to leave my home. The threats which had been issued as a result of her ‘advice’).

    Nothing to do with any ‘illness’ I had, the therapist just exercising her power to have anyone she chose to be drugged and snatched from their bed by police because they had refused to speak to her. How dare they? My husband is a psychiatrist, and I’ll have you ‘treated’ with electricity should you disagree with me.

    Anyway, good to know that the Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the law to ensure that she is never held to account for such criminal conspiring (care to see the letter?), and that arbitrary detentions and torture have been enabled by the State, who simply “edit” the legal narrative, deny access to legal representation, and “fucking destroy” anyone who dares complain.

    How can I perhaps ‘avoid’ such ‘referral’ in future I wonder? Especially when I can’t even be told what my “Regular Medications” are when they are being administered to me via my food or drink, and then a doctor I have never met (until Police deliver me to him after fraudulent Forms are completed) writes a prescription for them hours after I was ‘spiked’ with them?

    Looking back I don’t think that telling people that their home will be firebombed was such good advice, but I did pay $200 for it. And if I had known I would be forced into taking such advice, i’d have never gone to the clinic for a report in the first place.

    And this document “editing” by the State. I watch as the parents of a child who died in a hospital attend the Coroners Court, not aware that any wrongdoing by the hospital would have been “edited” to fabricate the legal narrative required to obtain the outcome preferred by the State. Such a shame because they seem like people who have already been hurt by the death of their child, and are about to find out how the State “fucking destroys” anyone who disagrees with the standard of ‘care’. The Minister attending the hospital in the middle of the night (snapped by a journo) to ensure everyone was on the same page with regards the “editing” no doubt. And even if you show the “editing” for what it actually is, all they do is simply ignore you, as they got the result they wanted from the Courts with their “editing”, and you no need ‘treatment’ for you ‘illness’ of speaking the truth, and will be delivered for that ‘treatment’ if you don’t shut up.

    It’s not like you could expect any honor from people with ‘history’.

  • Some of those states use archaic language like “idiots” or “insane persons” in their statutes.

    And that’s ‘archaic’ language? These would be considered respectful terms by any ‘patient’ who had the misfortune to have been dealt with by OUR police. Some of the terms they use not really technically included in the DSM, but we know what they mean by the terms “window lickers”, “nut jobs” and “psychos”. The nuances and subtleties of the language can be sorted out by the wordsmiths doing the ‘verballing’ at the ‘hospital’.

  • “It is said that one should not hesitate to correct himself when he has made a mistake. If he corrects himself without the least bit of delay, his mistakes will quickly disappear. But when he tries to cover up a mistake, it will become all the more unbecoming and painful. When words that one should not use slip out, if one will speak his mind quickly and clearly, those words will have no effect and he will not be obstructed to worry. If there is, however, someone who blames a person for such a thing, one should be prepared to say something like, “I have explained the reason for my careless speech. There is nothing else to be done if you will not listen to reason. Since I said it unwittingly, it should be the same as if you didn’t hear it. No one can evade blame.”

    Hagakure, Yamamoto (did I spell that right?)

    Speaking of cover up of mistakes, and the consequences……. how unbecoming and painful must it be to continue flogging the dead horse while people watch?

    Why does Balaams Donkey come to mind?
    Cast
    Balaam played by ‘the psychiatrist’
    Donkey played by ‘the patients’
    Balak played by ‘the drug companies’

    Are you sure we can’t pay to to forgo “First do no harm” and tell a “noble lie”? A little bit of snake oil never hurt nobody right?

  • I have been gobsmacked by the ability to deny victims of crimes the right to legal representation.

    Consider that the Community Nurse who made me into an “Outpatient” before calling Police to have them force me into a forgone conclusion interrogation (a ‘verballed’ confession) was clearly committing an offence.

    The hospital becomes aware of the long list of offending that followed and they then have Police retrieve the documents proving those offences (and human rights abuses including acts of torture), and the legal representation I did have is removed to make things a little more difficult for me.

    The “edited” documents now show the narrative that the hospital wants to be true, and everybody goes about their business.

    I mean I get it if this was what our politicians were complaining about in North Korea (see Otto Warmbier) but to find out that it is being done in your own back yard AND that the ‘legal representatives’ who are supposed to be a protections against these abuses’ are nothing more than SHILLS?

    Turning up with the proof that police failed to retrieve only makes matters worse in the end, because the long list of people who have been negligent after contacting the SHILLS now have something to worry about. They might get marched past the piles of corpses left behind in the wake of their negligence.

    Not that they ever seem to think they will be held to account. How could they when witnesses are threatened and the hypocrites who claim to be ‘defenders of our rights’ turn and run at the first sign of trouble?

    Don’t look, then what you don’t know can’t hurt you. And if you do look, you can always turn your back on the ‘Jew’ because no one else is actually going to help them anyway right? Not when the police tell you to say “It never happened”

    So whilst I admire the legal system and the right to representation in other places, the States where I live have the ability to rewrite the laws which appear to provide protections (without Parliamentary approval. And i’m sure there are doubters about this, who maintain their doubt rather than examine the documents) , to ensure that any criminal or human right abuse’s “never happened”.

    I was glad to read that the situation is very similar to the time spent by Frantz Fanon (the Wretched of the Earth) in Algeria where the very same mechanisms allowed the systematic torture and murder of ‘activists’. Psychiatrists boasting of their method of working with ‘legal representatives’ to “overcome resistance” (ie breach the trust people place in them. Defense lawyers working as paid police informants? Both sides of the bread being buttered in Australia )

    It may go some way to explaining why our hospital system has been rapidly degrading to providing third world ‘care’. Reports commissioned to find out who needs threatening, and what documents to “edit” rather than holding those responsible to account. Unaccountability tends to attract a certain type of person, who can see the benefits of such an environment. The possibilities for emptying wallets while police provide assistance holding the victims down and ensuring nowhere to go to complain? Yeah, I can see how that might work.

    Unfortunate that even if we had RICO laws, they could be rewritten by the Commissioner to ensure that no action could be taken. Our politicians completely redundant these days, providing the smoke and mirrors for criminals, as even the flimsy legal protections the community IS provided in our laws, don’t count when you try and access them.

  • “flatulent babbling about “fragile truths?””

    waaahahahaha

    “[Psychiatry] has fragile truths to defend & to provide care to those who depend on the services in an era of unprecedented need.”

    Psychiatry where I live allows the State to label anyone they wish as an “Outpatient” (sight unseen) and have police deliver them to a locked cage and do whatever they like to them and call it medicine.

    Denying people access to the protection of the law in this manner can be extremely beneficial for the State. particularly when they can “edit” the documented legal narratives, to make whatever they have done to citizens into a ‘medical procedure’ conducted on a ‘patient’. And then deny them access to legal representation [or at best provide them with a shill from the Law Centre] And believe me, you really don’t want to try and make a complaint to Police…… once placed outside the protection of the law by a Community Nurse lying and calling you an “Outpatient” ….. the video of that man in Kansas (?) getting his ‘medicine’ administered? They run ‘patients’ over with vehicles here before stomping on their heads with boots. Video available on request.

    Not a “fragile truth to defend” It’s a bare faced lie they cover up with fraud and slander. And the ‘care’ they are providing would be called torture if it weren’t for the “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” loophole in the Convention. Hence being able to make any citizen an “Outpatient” by telephone means all human and civil right s can be removed immediately, and the Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the protections in the MHA to enable this. Not that anyone would dare look, let alone actually say something to him about his arbitrary detentions would they?

    The “unprecedented need” has possibly been brought about by the paranoid delusions of the ‘elites’. The recent marriage of mental health services and police meaning that doctor can simply call the local station, and dispatch police to bring in anyone they might have an issue with. The “added protections” of the MHA ensuring that anyone who is a threat to their power (you know, anyone complaining about their misconduct, ……. ‘mental patients’) can be snatched from their beds and ‘treated’ for their “hallucinations” against their will and despite the damage to their brains.

    “hallucinations”, according to police, is the belief that you have a right to the protection of the law. And I am not kidding about that. Of course as a result of the psychologist they tried to have ‘snow’ me, and the threats to his family as a result of him saying no, “it never happened”.

    “flatulent babbling about “fragile truths?”” wahahahhaha Fart jokes always make me laugh.

  • mister-lister. Sounds like most of the hospital ‘programs’ designed to ‘help’ the ‘patients’ with their ‘social skills’. I was involved with a discussion with a group of patients one day at a coffee shop outing. We got around to the issue of drugs versus medicines, and one young lady said her doctor called them “products”. Long story short, I was told in no uncertain terms that such discussions was counter to the aims of the group, which was to ensure that these people followed the orders they had been given by their doctors.

    Seriously? They are infantilised so much that they can’t even speak about their ‘treatments’ to others (their friends) for fear of……wanting to not take the drugs or products? And this ‘program’ was meant to help them?

    I think such ‘closed shops’ as you describe are best left to their own devices. Not like they haven’t warned you that it is a delusional zone lol. They just want to drag people down to their level.

    I once went to a premature ejaculators group for support, but found I was a day early.

  • Yes, that is kind of scary.

    And it is the case I believe that in Australia the idea of such a lawsuit would be laughed about. I know for a fact that the medical fraternity was provided with immunity from any lawsuit relating to the vaccinations, and the same is basically true with any other form of ‘medicine’ You could literally run a Unit 731 experiments in this Nation and nothing could or would be done about it. (see for example the lack of action in the case of Garth Daniels who we watched basically being killed)

    I suppose that in some ways, it works against the State to leave such matters festering. For example I play golf with a Consul General of a large Asian country with a Consulate here in the State capital. He goes back to his country and tells them that they are taking a risk by coming here and being tourists or sending their kids as students because the State simply ignores the human and civil rights legislation? They are ‘at risk’ in such a place that refuses to right wrongs, and abuses human rights and then “edits” the facts with fraud. Maybe the reason the Canadian Embassy is so quick onto their citizens ending up in one of our ‘hospitals’? Something they know, that others don’t? I was impressed I must say.

    Same goes for me sitting with the Grand Mufti and the President of our National Islamic Councils who understand the right to bodily integrity as a direct result of intoxicants being Haram. I’m sure they have a right to be informed of the risks they are being exposed to by the gross criminal negligence of those with a duty to act on such matters. The Chief Psychiatrist doesn’t recognize the protections afforded the community in the law, and removes them with a misrepresentation? Allowing not only me but also them to be ‘spiked’ should the need arise. I felt at ease sitting sharing food with these people, as we share some values in regard the tampering with peoples food and drink without their knowledge.

    Even the unfair Treaty of Huddabiyah wasn’t distorted beyond recognition by the people of Mecca. Imagine them going to the Muslims in Medina and lying about the status of citizens to have them wrongfully detained and returned for ‘treatments’.

    So whilst they may have “fucking destroyed” me, I think that the people watching as Bilal ibn Rabbah was tortured realised that the person who was doing the torturing wasn’t the good person they actually claimed to be. I even have a “With Compliments” slip provided as a receipt for my body by the Community Nurse as he had police throw me into a police van in front of my mother and father in law for my “potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships”. Glad they ensured that my potential didn’t actuate.

    This not being a reason to scrap the whole Treaty, and it was after all agreed to by Muhammad (saw) who received some resistance when he stood by the agreement he had made, and returned Muslims to the people of Mecca to be incarcerated and tortured (see the Day of Abu Jandal).

    So as you can see, it may be that the Muslims hearing that our ‘medical fraternity’ is enabling the ‘spiking’ of citizens with intoxicants and the lying to police regarding their status actually has a history within Islam. And whilst we have a social contract that will be honored, it might just be the case that cooperation will depend on the very black letter of the law.

    Personally I would have thought resolving the matter with truth and justice foremost may have been best. But as noted in the Quran, there are many who prefer the means of fraud and slander, and who think they can conceal the truth from God. They scheme, and He schemes, and Allah is the best of schemers.

    I think that KNOWING that you can rely on the people you have contracts with to perform their duty according to that contract (and it is seen that they have done so) is the best way for friendly relations to remain in place. The refusal of the Chief Psychiatrist to even recognise the terms of our ‘contract’ by misrepresenting them, is an offense to all of our people. Leaving these people in positions where they can harm others (for more than ten years now) is not really what on would expect given the serious nature of what they did, AND that they were aware that what they did was criminal. And such a shame that in more than 8 years he has simply refused to even acknowledge the facts or the truth. Or is he being ‘obstructed’ by others who stand to loose something by acknowledging the truth?

    The documents are there should ANYONE care to examine them.

    Thanks for the information Skeetbeet.

    A side note, the “added protections” inserted into our MHA in 2014 are basically protections from those nutjob mental patients out in the community. You know, anyone that isn’t ‘them’. “Outpatients” who the Community Nurse used to have to lie to police about to arbitrarily detain and torture. That has changed, and these days Police have been procured by having a Community Nurse in the Police Station who can be called by doctor to go and get his ‘potential’ “Outpatients” for delivery to the locked ward, pre drugged and ready for interrogations.

    It’s much easier to do what was done to me these days, and the community never got the Memo.

    That’s what they call “added protections”. Added protections from YOU. ‘A mentally ill man was arrested today for walking through a car park where the Minister for Mental Health was. He was admitted to hospital for his injuries inflicted by police when they tried to ensure that he didn’t breathe in her general direction, and for wearing a loud shirt in a public place (what you get when police haven’t got a copy of the Criminal Code I’m afraid)…. part of the new ‘added protections’ in the MHA. Condolences have been offered to the family, and the documents “edited” to ensure clarity for the legal representatives of the man and his family. Police have stated that “it never happened” and any further enquires will result in harm to journalists families’

  • “what are the odds of “remission/cure” if they receive no “treatment” at all?”

    I think that question is answered partly by studies in places where they either can’t afford the drugs, or don’t want them because they are ‘intoxicants’ and therefore considered “prohibited”.

    The two situations shouldn’t be confused, it isn’t necessarily the case that because people are not taking the drugs is because they can’t afford them. They simply don’t want them. But creating the illusion that if they had the money……..

    Geez those ‘radical Islamists’ denying people access to drugs and treatments that work. (and interfering with expansion and profits from untapped markets). Wasting good money on unnecessary items such as food and clean water, when they could have these drugs.

  • “As a preteen they had me confused with another patient and would argue with me when I resisted being given his treatments.”

    Police here delivered an aboriginal man to the hospital, and they insisted that his refusal to answer to the name of an escaped patient was his illness. They then force drugged him with that patients drugs and he ended up on life support in the E.D.

    But, as our Minister said when asked about the report regarding the nearly 50% of women reporting being sexuality’s assaulted in the locked wards……”You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”.

    If they tell you your Jesus, you’d better bloody accept that lol.

    Obviously not a problem when the hospitals can “edit” the documents relating to his ‘treatment’, and threaten and intimidate the witnesses. And as discussed, i have made note of the ability of the Chief Psychiatrist to rewrite the law as required. He will end up owing them the price of a new Porsche for his treatment by the time they’re finished lol

  • Love the name George lol

    I’d post the link to Dr Hickeys article, but given that it was removed by the editors here, I assume i’d be in breach of posting policy.

    In one State here, they made the claim in Parliament that they needed the AOTs to deal with approximately 80 people who were ‘falling through the cracks’. And then in no time there were 3000 ‘patients’ being ‘treated’ in the community………………. a slight miscalculation. Especially when the threat of beating people over the head with the big stick in their own homes was enabled.

    Violent assault was looking into the eyes of the person ‘verballing’ the statements. Consider the comment written about my “Potential for violence, but no clear intent or actual history”. Documenting his own paranoid delusions is MY ‘illness’?

    Still it is a fact that if our Police are writing accurate reports and statements, they are sent for creative writing classes to be taught how to ‘verbal’ statements and keep them vague for wriggle room when perjuring themselves in our courts. Why would mental health services who are notoriously worse, be any different? And the 12 years of prison done by some of the victims of police ‘verballing’ seems insignificant when you consider the response of these people to complaints about their criminal and corrupt conduct…. that is “we’ll fucking destroy you”. And with drugs and electricity at hand, and zero accountability, they really mean it. It really seems to suggest that the State is not serious about the Charter of Health Care Rights huh?

    Our MHA used to define Mental Illness (or technically what they weren’t allowed to write down as being their reasons for forced druggings and incarcerations. ie your religious beliefs should be avoided on the paperwork, but were seen as being perfectly fine reasons for ‘taking you in for questioning’). The exclusion of drug addiction removed in the last writing, moving the problem of drug addicts from police to mental health for forced treatments. Many ways to extract wealth from the Medicare system.

  • And you guys think you’ve got problems with ‘misrepresentations’? We have a Chief Psychiatrist who rewrites the law to remove the legal protections afforded the community. And when we speak about ‘killing the messenger’ …….. ‘no harm, no foul’? Only because they were rudely interrupted.

    From the Mental Health Act
    29 .         Referring potential involuntary patients for psychiatric examination
            (1)         Subject to section 194, a medical practitioner or an authorised mental health practitioner who suspects on reasonable grounds that a person should be made an involuntary patient may refer the person for examination by a psychiatrist.

    Who should be an “involuntary patient” is set out in s. 26 Persons who should be involuntary patients of the MHA 1996

    The Chief Psychiatrist in his letter of response to the Law Centre writes;

    “The referrer, in this case, a mental health clinician who has undergone training as an Authorised Mental Health Practitioner (AMHP), has only to ‘suspect’ on grounds they believe to be reasonable that the person requires an examination by a psychiatrist.”  

    Firstly, the “reasonable grounds ” standard has been removed, thus authorising arbitrary detentions based on nothing more than a suspicion.

    Secondly, the criteria for detention has been removed by changing the belief that must be formed by the AMHP from “the person should be made into an involuntary patient” to “requires an examination by a psychiatrist”.

    The MHA clearly sets out “who should be an involuntary patient” whereas, the Act has nothing to say about who should be referred for an examination by a psychiatrist. Possibly because it is quite easy to make a decision that someone ‘needs their head examined’.

    The issue was that this was someone attempting to conceal KNOWN criminal offenses and human rights abuses, and the only way to achieve that was with such acts of gross negligence, and a belief that the Chief Psychiatrist has the right to change the law and remove the protections afforded the community by our lawmakers.

    The Community Nurse had not met the burden placed on him by the Mental Health Act, so have the Chief Psychiatrist remove the burden with the above misrepresentation of the law and what was criminal, now becomes lawful. Having police retrieve the documents showing that the Chief Psychiatrist was fully aware of the offending before distributing the fraudulent and slanderous set of documents (the “edited” set) will be of benefit before sending out the letter of response.

    Quite a three card monte, and such a shame that there were people harmed as a direct result of the deliberate delays and obstrutions and the overt threats and attempt to “fucking destroy” me by the State.

    I find it fascinating that despite looking, that people simply can’t see what I’m saying. A large number of lawyers…. though do they obtain a benefit by NOT looking? Lawyers who deliberately don’t look at what they’re told to not look at by the State? I can see how that might make a mess of the justice system. But in this instance we are talking about people being deliberately brain damaged as a result of the ‘Fatwah’ that is issued against them by psychiatrists. Or the Community Nurse who makes you an “Outpatient” before calling for police assistance, and then has a knife planted on you for them to find. A risk being one of the criteria for referral.

    Glad that at least someone is prepared to stand up and be counted on this issue of ‘anti depressants’. I wish the community where I lived felt as strongly about the person who is charged with protecting their human rights removing them from the law with his misrepresentation. The Minister telling me that the above is “not a misrepresentation”? What is it then? A delusional state brought about by no one telling the Emperor has no clothes, and that the public interest is to know that the Chief Psychiatrist is enabling arbitrary detentions and acts of torture by simply ignoring the law and changing it to suit the purposes of those who have a burden placed on them?

    It IS an offense in my State to produce false documents as a means to procure a person not suffering from a mental illness. That offense is concealed by the misrepresentation of the law quoted above. The burden removed, and the ‘criteria’ setting out when a Authorised MH Professional can have police detain someone and have them transported for assessment changed. All the need do is call police and ask for ‘assistance’ with their “Outpatient” and forge the Forms for others to utter with

    “assistance” from police where an “Outpatient” is concerned?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=4s

    Okay, you weren’t actually a ‘patient’ before being snatched form your bed, and the ‘diagnosis’ was done by a Community Nurse who hadn’t actually met you yet, and had done the ‘diagnosis’ on the basis of a telephone call but …….. Chief Psychiatrist is good with this. And they wonder why the statistics don’t match their beliefs that they’re doing a great job? A little more money would always help.

    Good luck with your ‘law suit’ but given the power of psychiatrists to rewrite the law without the need for Parliament, I think you might be pushing crap uphill. What are y’all going to do when you find out you have no right to legal representation……. because your Bill of Rights has been “edited” by the APA?

    And believe me, no one is prepared to confront the C.P. with his letter. Perhaps the cognitive dissonance it caused resulted in the lawyers and ‘advocates’ claim to have ‘unread’ the letter, rather than demand that ‘our’ rights be upheld, and the obstruction of justice cease?

  • “Know the enemy and know yourself in a hundred battles you will never be in peril”

    This seems to be nothing more than a means to identify anyone who may be a threat to the existing power structure.

    Doesn’t Doctor Aftab have a ‘history’ here at MiA? Wasn’t there a ‘problem’ with Dr Hickeys critique of some of his work? Or has that been ‘removed for moderation’? If my memory serves me correctly you have to go to Doc Hickeys website to access the ‘offending’ article.

    “Journalism is publishing something someone else doesn’t want published. Everything else is Public Relations” George Orwell.

  • I guess the ‘problem’ can change significantly if and when the person does come to trust you? I would imagine from my limited experience that it becomes like a life raft where you can at least take a break and get some breath. And you tend to return to the well where the water is good.

    I know also from experience that the psychologist who ‘turned’ on me and started asking questions for police (“Who else has got the documents?” and the bold faced lie [“it never happened”] that police hadn’t tried to make a referral when I turned up with the proof they thought had been retrieved). Needing to steal my laptop to find out who else I had been communicating with and who may have figured out what was actually done, rather than the “edited” version of events presented to the Law Centre to slander me with.

    I could see he was torn between his duty to his patient, and the police who were threatening his family to have him get the information they wanted, so they could ‘bury’ the truth surrounding my torture and kidnaping by their fellow officers.

    And the poor psychologist knowing I had already reported to the corruption watchdog, and had spoken for an hour and a half with a Member of Parliament, and that in all likelihood they were watching to see where police ran with what was now THEIR little problem.

    Still, it’s a dog act to breach the trust of someone you had originally helped with their trust issues. And I get it that he tried to have me referred to a police ‘friendly’ psychiatrist, and left an ‘escape route’ for me. Which I took, or I wouldn’t be writing this …. or maybe someone without the stomach for it would have ‘intervened’ again?

    I still laugh about the look on the face of the doctor who was about to inject me in the E.D. when he was rudely interrupted. It reminded me of the look on Wiley Coyotes face just before the 100Lb Anvil dropped on his head lol

    And I have no doubt the psychologist thought I was mad…… until the police started threatening him, and he possibly realised I had been speaking the truth the whole time. Not unlike the lawyer “I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof”. First to turn on their colleagues gets the best deal from the prosecutors.

    Kudos to him for getting me to the point where I could face Goliath and hit him between the eyes. Shame he tried to hold him up when he started to fall.

    “Your information is strictly confidential”. Yeah right, until police start making threats, or the Operations Manager wants to fucking destroy you, then you’ll find your ‘personal information’ becomes public knowledge fairly easily. So careful what you tell these people, beyond what they fabricate about you, or torture you into ‘confessing’.

    And consider, a Social Worker had documented some highly sensitive information about me some 10 years earlier, all in good faith. However, it was fairly easy for the Operations Manager to weaponise that information (after digging for dirt with which to carry out her overt threat to fucking destroy me and my family), and use it in the “editing” of the documents for the Law Centre. Complaining now means your most personal information is being handed around ….. like poisoning yourself. She seemed like such a nice lady too, for such a vicious cant say that on MiA

  • Nurse Beverly Allitt

    Yes, I remember hearing about this case from the media.

    And the ‘don’t want to get involved’ was the response from police when I turned up with the documented proof of the original offences.

    Thing is that with knowledge of those original offenses, it was easy to see that the people involved might have had some concerns about Police actually doing their job (given the many years of prison for the offenses possible to prove with these documents on their own), unaware that police don’t have a copy of the Criminal Code and that the Chief Psychiatrist has rewritten the law to remove protections for the community from acts of torture and arbitrary detentions.

    So I stand with a friend and explain to a Senior Constable how to ‘harvest’ morphine from another patient and then use that to tip someone over the edge and have an ‘unintended negative outcome’ A posteriori knowledge….. but he found it best that he didn’t know about that. And I guess his immediate problem was the means to ensure he didn’t take the documented proof and made a referral to mental health. He has no probable cause if he doesn’t take the documents, and then he doesn’t have to investigate the attempted ‘outcoming’ in the E.D. Nor even report it to his superiors, who would be upset about being informed when they have worked so hard to NOT see.

    Sure, I get it, they let them run with their ‘little problem’ to see where they would go…… found out how they were dealing with such ‘little problems (and didn’t have the stomach for it) …… had a few harsh words with them about the ones they had already done, and told them naughty naughty, don’t do it again. Saves having to pay the compensation to the people who lost family members………. a saving to the State, and in the public interest.

    Of course me turning up with the proof of the original offenses AND the ‘cover up’ after they had let them run, and ensured police neglected their duty……. what a mess Mr Hart.

    So they had to ‘tip off’ the criminals to get out of Dodge, and pretend that there was nothing wrong with the Chief Psychiatrist rewriting the law and ……..the “editing” of legal narrative and ……. you know, they weren’t outcoming a lot of people for the State (and a few ‘cashies’ for Private clinics I assume).

    Luckily they can pretend to be the ‘good guys’ and no one will actually check that they are doing their duty. A bit like the Feds finding out about Police corruption, and jumping into bed with them, knowing that leaves the community absolutely nowhere to go. Especially given they are denying citizens access to legal representation by claiming they are ‘investigating’ the matters….. for the next 40 years.

    I’ve never heard of fluphenazine Fiachra (had to ask an Irish friend how to pronounce that, your name that is :). I’ve not had a lot to do with these drugs, which may have bothered the people who found it necessary to ‘spike’ me with them. Imagine people getting a choice where ‘mental health professionals’ are concerned?

    The simple fact that you disagree with them is proof there is something wrong with you……. not unlike the Taliban really. You WILL attend Friday prayers or be whipped in public. Aren’t the Muslim population of this State going to be shocked to find out they can be ‘spiked’ with intoxicants by anyone who thinks they need to have their heads looked at. Maybe they can even force the women into wearing bikinis once they drug them without their knowledge? Use ‘coercion’ and call it ‘liberating’ them lol

    I mean, what are they going to do? Complain? To people and ‘authorities’ that feign ignorance and enable human rights abuses with their gross criminal negligence? I can tell them how that works, but they prefer to think “they wouldn’t do that”, thus meaning they don’t need to even check the facts.

    Honestly, I’ve seen the pictures of the place they are taking the Jews, and it looks really nice. I don’t have to go there to KNOW that. Because I trust the people telling me that.

  • “Clearly, the most helpful thing for such a person is to a) acknowledge that their sense of trust has been systematically violated and that difficulties with trust would be totally normal under the circumstances, and b) help the person to re-learn how to trust and act on their own gut-level instinct that has so thoroughly been invalidated, so that they learn that while not everyone is untrustworthy, it makes good sense to keep one’s boundaries up and to listen to and respect our intuition.

    The idea of teaching such a person to automatically “give the benefit of the doubt” is quite outrageous. It’s the very last thing in the entire world you’d want to teach them!”

    Valuable information Steve. And dare I say that it may just be that there is misunderstanding about what it means to ‘give the benefit of the doubt’. Where you say there is a need to learn how to trust with their own gut level instinct, that can’t be done without first trusting in some small way. And sure the radars are all finely tuned to set off a reaction that will result in withdrawal from social situations etc…… I’m thinking of Seligmans dogs here, who were trained to be ‘learned helpless’ and then needed to be ‘forced’ to see that the floor was no longer electrified. What if the use of force then becomes the reinforcer for the helplessness?

    I know in my situation the knowledge of such ‘psychology’ was deliberately used to cause harm…… yeah yeah, “they wouldn’t do that’, they’re doctors”. Of course they would do that to avoid going to prison.

    Point being your right in what your saying, and it is much more of an art form. Shame I couldn’t find someone such as yourself in this shithole where I live. Even the Army psychologist who trains people in the art of torture (though keep it between you and me) couldn’t put Humpty together again.

  • I also make note here of the dilemma for the State caused by Article 10 of the Convention against the use of Torture.

    It may be claimed that the Community Nurse wasn’t aware that what he was doing was enabling acts of torture?

    In which case the State has been negligent in their ‘training’ of him under that particular Article which states that;

    1. Each State Party shall ensure that education and information regarding the prohibition against torture are fully included in the training of law enforcement personnel, civil or military, medical personnel, public officials and other persons who may be involved in the custody, interrogation or treatment of any individual subjected to any form of arrest, detention or imprisonment.

    2. Each State Party shall include this prohibition in the rules or instructions issued in regard to the duties and functions of any such person.

    How many public officers believe they can ‘spike’ citizens with date rape drugs and then subject them to hours of interrogations and ‘acute stress reactions’ (ie beatings, and ‘mock executions’ which are considered ‘coercive methods’ where I live as they are not ACTUALLY going to execute you, just they make you think that, ergo not torture by definition (Combined with the ‘spiking’ which is a physical assault, different matter. Hence the need to conceal the crime) See Article 1 for the ‘loophole’) and it doesn’t break the rules?

    I know 1 that does. And he is providing ‘care’ for the families of others to this day. Glad y’all are happy with that. And they do reports as to why people are killing themselves after walking out of this ‘hospital’? Why bother, it’s kind of obvious, but I guess someone has to do the “editing”.

    Now the “guidelines” do seem to cover these acts of torture, and I would suggest that the State has a defense in that they have made it very clear to this Community Nurse that he isn’t allowed to torture citizens.

    But what if he were to inform us that they are actually enabling him in the acts and that was why he felt he could laugh at me when I said I was going to have something done about his vile conduct? Perhaps the reason the Operations Manager felt she was justified in threatening my family and “fucking destroying” me? Not like anyone was going to step up and say “this is wrong”…… though I note someone said they didn’t have the stomach for the ‘resolution’ and rudely interrupted that in the E.D. Though a need to retrieve the documents proving what I am saying was necessary before providing the Law Centre with the fraudulent set….. and then the letter from C.P.

    Consider the consequences of them thinking the documents had been retrieved, and then they turn up in a Police Station, showing the cover up? Of acts of torture and well….. the other stuff no one believes anyway because “they wouldn’t do that”. Rock solid defense that is.

    Knowing the State was ‘protecting’ the Community Nurse from any form of prosecution for his acts of torture, and criminal conduct in the production of false documents? I mean, who would have thought police would be out trying to retrieve documented proof of such vile acts to ensure that the criminal wasn’t prosecuted? Placing a ‘flag’ on the complainant for an automatic referral to the criminals so they could resolve their ‘little problem’ with a needle full of ‘care’? Such mercy being shown by these people huh? Particularly considering they were the cause of the damage in the first place with their unlawful use of force.

    Class action lawsuit. I’ve got the documented proof of the wrongdoing of these people, and putting it in front of a lawyer is like throwing Holy Water over Dracula, and tying him to a sunbed. They wouldn’t touch it, and their life depends on that in Australia. They have been well told not to be ‘zealous’ when it comes to mental health claims, given the ‘benefits’ to the State from such human rights abuses. Ask our ex Treasurer why he had to flee the State when Police were chasing him to do a ‘referral’. Seems some people were ‘in the know’ as to what the consequences of upsetting the wrong people was (ie the Minister for Mental Health)

  • When the Chief Psychiatrist can rewrite the laws to cover up what were criminal offences, and fail to report to the Corruption watchdog because ….. well, we covered it up so why bother?

    Significant to note that since this time, the laws have been ‘amended’ to give ‘us’ “added protections”. Now, best you don’t look at what they mean by “added protections” but in brief;

    teenagers can ‘consent’ to ECT, and doctors can not be held accountable for any damage done. ie no litigation threat which was a concern…… so they got ‘protected’.

    The ‘little problem’ with arbitrary detentions, that is, the protections afforded the community by the law under s. 26 of the MHA has now been removed. Any Community Nurse now using police to have people snatched form their beds has been resolved. In fact, these guys are now working from Police Stations, where the ‘treatment’ and ‘coercive methods’ being used which tend to result in the need for the trauma to be ‘treated’ can be made ‘on the run’. No need for those pesky “reasonable grounds” given their paranoid delusions (or ‘suspicions’ if you like) are all the grounds they need. Consider the use of “suss laws” with the ability to force drug anyone you are ‘suspicious’ of? They’re bad enough when police get such powers, but with a needle full of brain damage, for an incompetent the likes of the ‘verballer’ I met? It really does bring psychiatry down a notch when Community Nurses are giving ‘diagnoses’ and prescribing the drugs before they even leave the hospital to meet their “Outpatient”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=3s

    The “concerning aspects” of this detention, no longer a concern given it is the ‘illness’ of the man which is now the issue, and not the cause of that ‘illness’. Formed by the waiting Community Nurse and off to the E.D. to be put into an induced coma until he stops whining.

    Added protections for Police by making their ‘referrals’ not based on anything other than a ‘suspicion’ (as opposed to the one where they need a reason other than I want him to stop screaming when I crush his fingers, or apply the tazer to his testicles).

    And then there is the subtle changes to the laws relating to mandatory reporting to the corruption watchdog. That really was a problem for those doing cover ups as ‘principle authorities’, not wanting their ‘internal problems’ being examined by an outside ‘independent observers’. Having to report torture and kidnappings in writing must have made them cringe. No longer necessary, and the prison term for such non reporting has been removed I believe. Given the comments by our previous ‘leader’ (whose concealment of acts of police torture was part of his downfall once the video was released) that the Corruption watchdog was now “redundant” and shouldn’t be investigating public officers………has come to fruition with the rather long winded amendments to the Act. A ‘paper trail’ showing a removal of accountability, and “added protections” for those engaging in human rights abuses.

    A “zero tolerance” policy if you like, that is zero tolerance of anyone trying to access their human rights or the protections afforded by the law…… which, as we know, the Chief Psychiatrists rewrites according to his requirements WITHOUT THE NEED FOR PARLIAMENT. Is the community aware they have no right to legal representation when public officers commit offences against the community? I’d suggest this is a bigger myth than the ‘chemical imbalance lie, that you have a right to legal representation.

    They can ‘patch’ the problems later by invalidating the report of the U.N. which stated quite clearly that Australia’s mental health laws ARE a violation of human rights, and MAY constitute acts of torture (without a confession, it could never be proven… so keep your mouths shut doc). The benefits two fold, because the public is stripped of their rights and legal protections, and they think they have received “added protections”. No need for acts of gross criminal negligence by public officers coming across acts of torture and kidnappings (not to mention the ‘unintended negative outcomes’) having to report anymore.

    Euthanasia Act?

    This is straight form Himmler’s diaries (see the problem caused by Josef Hartingers report into the deaths at Dachau, and the ‘governments response to their ‘problem’. Bury the facts and change the laws to make it lawful…….and then the killings started again), and the public blissfully unaware that it has been done. The stealth model has actually been quite effective.

    At last, carte blanche, and they should be able to ‘get the job done’. Which unfortunately seems to be taking a little longer than expected……and it looks like our hospital system is in an absolute mess but ……. maybe added powers?

    I mean really, what is there beyond carte blanche and zero accountability? And a public more afraid of their local police than any ‘terrorist’ or ‘mental patient’. The obvious justification for the removal of ‘our’ rights.

    Can’t defend these rights on my own, and these people obviously place no value in them…… until the boot is on their heads, and it’s their families being “fucking destroyed” for trying to exercise what they no longer have, that is a right to complain about being tortured (article 13). And I note the use of a document KNOWN to have been produced using an act of torture being used by the C.P. to defend the unlawful detention (Article 15)….who cares about such bits of paper when your being waterboarded, they scream for their mothers not the United Nations. Ask the Community Nurse who I note is STILL torturing people to this very day as a direct result of the negligence of others.

    This then becomes STATE SANCTIONED TORTURE.

    So my refusal to speak to a private clinic psychologist (with a Masters degree no less) about a family conflict results in the exposing of the State sanctioned torture program ….. and i’m surprised that none of y’all want to look? I really have lost my mind, of course you wouldn’t look, you’d end up in the ‘cells’ with the rest of ‘us’.

  • “The left does not care about mental patients. They believe in human rights for everyone, except those who’ve been diagnosed as mentally ill.”

    Which is everyone who doesn’t think the way they do. My ‘Union’ quite prepared to support the use of ‘mental health services’ as a means to attack any whistleblowers, and run back to their ‘slavemasters’ with information for a pat on the head and a few ‘hush puppies’. Sychophants.

  • “We need to ditch the left-right axis. We need to replace it with the greed – integrity axis. People on the greed end of the axis should not be supported by anyone, regardless of party. Unfortunately, that doesn’t leave a whole lot of representatives left on the integrity end!”

    This reminded me of a picture I saw once of a ‘panhandler’ sitting with a sign saying “Why lie, it’s for Beer”. Now THAT’s integrity lol

  • I like the quote from Chomsky, I have no idea what is in his heart. I still singalong to Michael Jackson on the radio, but have no idea if the allegations are true or not.

    Hypocrisy IS the greatest luxury.

    “The problem has never been our political logic
    But the way we enact it
    We can imagine a perfect society
    But can’t maintain a decent relationship
    The failure found in the luxury, not in the hardship”

    Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy

  • Hi skeetbeet.

    ‘spiked’ is when you put drugs into someone’s drink or food without their knowledge with the intention of stupefying them. Do it with the intent to commit further offenses (such as kidnapping, or sexual assault) and you can be in serious trouble…….. If police have a copy of the Criminal Code in the particular station where you try and report the offences. Otherwise they call mental health services and try and have you hit over the head with the ‘chemical kosh’ and removed from their fine establishment.

    There are four ‘date rape drugs’ called ‘intoxicants’ (unless administered by a doctor who can write prescriptions [even then there can be problems, see the case of Prof John Kearsley] at which point they are ‘medicine’) and which are used by many rapists in nite clubs in particular.

    Ketamine
    GHB
    Rhohypnol
    Benzodiazepines.

    There is a defense in law;
    “to prove that the accused person had reasonable cause to believe that each person who was likely to consume the drink or food would not have objected to consuming the drink or food if the person had been aware of the presence and quantity of the intoxicating substance in the drink or food.”

    In my situation the fact that the people who KNEW that I had been intoxicated by deception conspired to conceal the offence……… so they obviously thought I would object. And in fact, I have NEVER been prescribed these drugs, and when a nurse in the locked ward offered them to me, I suggested he use them as a suppository (ie stick em up your …… ).

    So I wasn’t informed until it was apparent that my legal representatives were to be provided with unredacted documents showing the offenses, 6 weeks after. They had tried all sorts of deceptions to ensure I didn’t find out. Trying to have me sign documents to make me into someone’s ‘patient’ after the fact to enable their conspiring to be ‘medical care’.

    The Senior Medical Officer who I had never met, writing a prescription for the administration of these date rape drugs hours AFTER they had been administered, and despite knowing I had been subjected to interrogations by a Community Nurse AND Police. How easy is it to conceal acts of torture in my State, who have actually complained about this being done in African Nations. Torturers that they are, but when ‘we’ do it, it’s ‘medicine’

    I have the letter in PDF form, and have redacted the names. I feel sure that the way the law has been rewritten to remove the protections afforded the community is clear for all to see, but have had lawyers ‘unread’ the letter to ‘unsee’ what they are instructed to not see by the State. And hey, it’s only the family of a mental patient that has been ‘fucking destroyed’, not like it was someone that matters. Well, okay I wasn’t a mental patient when this was done, unless you consider the Community Nurse lying to police and saying I was an “Outpatient” of his hospital to procure the thug services of police to force me to talk whilst stupefied without my knowledge…… you know, receiving ‘care’.

    One might suggest that this is because they were dealing with the matter in a ‘quiet’ manner…. but why was this person who did these vile deeds still harming people TWO YEARS AFTER he should have been reported to the Corruption watchdog under the MANDATORY reporting provisions? (lest the person not reporting suspected misconduct commit an offense).

    There is no need to report when the documents have been “edited”, the legal representatives have thrown the victim under a bus, and the victim is delivered to an E.D. for ‘treatment’ (which is a great way to terrorise others into silence I note. You wouldn’t want what was done to me done to your family kind of thing.)

    The Operations Manager was quite open about her offending (as a representative of the State). Telling me when I ensured she was aware of her duty to report that “we’ll fucking destroy you”. And with the Chief Psychiatrist able to remove legal protections from the Mental Health Act (is this what they call “grandiose”? That’s what I got called for suggesting I had human rights to the Senior Medical Officer. That and whatever other slander he could fabricate with words without too much effort in his “three minute diagnosis”).

    Anyway, quite happy to share the letter, from the person who “provides expert legal advice on matters of Mental Health law to the Minister”. But, I might add, who would fail a first year law course at the Mahatma Ghandi Online School of Law lol

    The letter was FORGED by the Law Centre and handed to someone they KNEW had been viciously attacked and gaslighted, to cause significant psychological problems……. and let me tell you, that letter almost contributed to my death. I’m sure they feel no shame over the matter though (just following orders), the author going on to run for Federal Parliament despite these facts being known to our ‘authorities’. Just what we need, forgers and utterers in Federal Parliament instead of ‘providing access to the law to the vulnerable of our community’ with her offending..

    ‘Sorry, we haven’t got the resources to assist people who have been subjected to human rights abuses by the State, we’re too busy at the Audi dealership picking a colour for our new cars with the increased funding were getting from the State for NOT looking at these abuses’ You could try seeking ‘help’ from the people that did this to you? Because the “edited” documents make you into a violent psychotic drug abusing wife beater, and now that police have ensured your homeless….. well, things aren’t looking too good for you. Nothing that cant be achieved with a little bit of “editing” and gross criminal negligence.

    Might be time to redo some ‘exams’ in the place our aboriginal population calls ‘University’ (ie Prison)

  • This reminded me of me being told byt he psychologist who conspired with my wife, about my complaining regarding being drugged without my knowledge, tortured and kidnapped, that I wasn’t being “morally relative”.

    Morally relative? Is that like when a rapists says, ‘well I thought eventually you’d like it, and it isn’t my fault you didn’t’?

    Glad to hear that the Chief Psychiatrist can’t ACTUALLY remove the legal protections afforded the community in that area of law……… or can he? The removal of the Criteria from the Mental Health Act an act of gross negligence, and the only means to make what were crimes, into ‘medicine’. Quite clever, and I’m sure such vicious psychological attacks on people who have already been harmed are in many cases quite effective.

    The ability of the State to deny citizens access to legal representation can be demonstrated (democracy?), and the letter showing this significant power of our Great Protector is there for all to see……. if only someone would actually look. Then again, not a lot of people looked at the photos of the physical damage done to those kids who were being repeatedly raped in institutions for 40 years either.

    Where were the journalists and ‘the public interest’ then?

  • A note on confidentiality.

    I had someone who looked at these documents who was an ‘advocate’ for the organisation which was brought into effect by the MH Act, and as someone who was being paid to protect the vulnerable people being taken into custody and force drugged and electrocuted. You’d expect him to be aware of the protections but …… he seems to think that the Chief Psychiatrist response was ‘thorough’, and that it was just ‘sour grapes’ on the mental patients part.

    However, what I noticed was that he offered to keep all of the information ‘confidential’ and on a ‘just between you an me’ basis.

    So I wrote back and said, “Please don’t”, because that’s exactly what the criminals want. They don’t want people knowing that they’re doing this sort of thing and the Chief Psychiatrist is covering it up for them. The ‘squealer’ is the biggest problem these people can have, going around wanting the protection of the law, when they have a rigged game of ‘find the lady’ going on, and police being paid off? (Police telling me they didn’t have a copy of the Criminal Code when presented with the documents. Later sent to retrieve them before the fraudulent set was sent to the Law Centre, and a ‘flag’ placed on me for immediate referral should I turn up in a Station with the proof)

    Classis Erving Goffman in cooling out the ‘mark’.

    I’m sure the people whose children were being raped by priests were told their information would be kept ‘strictly confidential’ and that it would do damage to the child if it were talked about…… and how did that all work out?

    So my attitude is that the vicious slander done by releasing my “edited” medical records to the public has resulted in me being harmed anyway. So why not show the public the proof of what is being done and called ‘medicine’? Not a day of my life has been worth living since I was introduced to the Community Nurse who told police I was his “Outpatient” (and was in possession of the knife he had arranged to have planted on me, along with the cannabis). Just in case they had to shoot me, me being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs without my knowledge being a risk, and requiring the protection of a ‘throw down’. bang, bang, put down the knife…… (edit)…… Put down the knife bang, bang.

    So why on earth should I feel the shame of being tortured and kidnapped, and only to have a psychiatrist ask, ‘why is this man even here?’.

    Because they meant well? I’d like to see them defend that position. A bank robber means well, he just has to hurt a few people for others to benefit, so lets “edit” the evidence and ensure he isn’t held to account for his crimes eh? Hey look, a man sticks a gun in a tellers face becomes a legitimate withdrawal if we forge this withdrawal slip, and retrieve the video evidence……. a few threats to the families of the tellers won’t go astray either. “they wouldn’t do that”

    Silence and ‘confidentiality’ is the dark shadows where these people are actively operating.

    “And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is)” (al Baqarah 42)

    It’s not a falsehood (or criminal fraud) if you call it “editing” and everyone knows their families safety is at risk if they dare look. And those who fail to learn from history…..have probably lost their memory due to drugs and electricity.

    I actually liked this quote form Orwell about Journalism.

    “Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is Public Relations”.

    I don’t know about ‘selective’ publishing, he doesn’t seem to cover that scenario.

  • “Many if not most will be denied as I was. They are legally allowed to deny psychiatric patients access to treatment notes because doctors are afraid of retribution for what they write about their patients.”

    This it true kindredspirit. In my State there is a legal protection allowing a legal representative the right to examine unredacted documents on provision of a confidentiality agreement.

    The hospital identifies the information they do not want disclosed, and provides a reason for the non disclosure.

    This creates problems when the hospital wants to conceal criminal offenses and human rights abuses, because the lawyers have a right to the documents, and the hospital doesn’t want to ask them in writing to conspire to pervert the course of justice.

    Knowing that the ‘client’ will not be allowed to see what they, the lawyers. have done, they are free to conspire with the hospitals over such matters (eg acts of torture). There is nobody watching the watchers, or so they think.

    Tends to be that the hospital will arrange an ‘unintended negative outcome’ while they put the lawyers on ‘hold’ with “edited” documents.

    Once a mental health fatwah (diagnosis) has been issued by the Mullahs, it really is forever. The idea of getting access to the legal system, when the legal system has ordered you ‘treated’ is ludicrous.

    The lawyers are fully aware of the vulnerability faced by their ‘clients’, and will take full advantage of that situation by throwing them under a bus, for an increase in their State funding to provide ‘access to the law’ (yep, it’s a joke they play on the community). And the general public will say “they wouldn’t do that” while they refuse to examine the facts.

    Consider this for example.

    From the Mental Health Act 1996
    29 .         Referring potential involuntary patients for psychiatric examination
            (1)         Subject to section 194, a medical practitioner or an authorised mental health practitioner who suspects on reasonable grounds that a person should be made an involuntary patient may refer the person for examination by a psychiatrist.

     Who should be an “involuntary patient” is set out in s. 26 Persons who should be involuntary patients of the MHA 1996

    The Chief Psychiatrist in his letter of response to the Law Centre writes 
    “The referrer, in this case, a mental health clinician who has undergone training as an Authorised Mental Health Practitioner (AMHP), has only to ‘suspect’ on grounds they believe to be reasonable that the person requires an examination by a psychiatrist.”  

    Firstly, the “reasonable grounds ” standard has been removed, thus authorising arbitrary detentions based on nothing more than a suspicion. Secondly, the criteria for detention has been removed by changing the belief that must be formed by the AMHP from “the person should be made into an involuntary patient” to “requires an examination by a psychiatrist”. The MHA clearly sets out “who should be an involuntary patient” whereas, the Act has nothing to say about who should be referred for an examination by a psychiatrist. Possibly because it is quite easy to make a decision that someone ‘needs their head examined’.

    The issue was that this was someone attempting to conceal KNOWN criminal offenses and human rights abuses, and the only way to achieve that was with such acts of gross negligence, and a belief that the Chief Psychiatrist has the right to change the law and remove the protections afforded the community by our lawmakers.

    The Community Nurse had not met the burden placed on him by the Mental Health Act, so have the Chief Psychiatrist remove the burden with the above misrepresentation of the law and what was criminal, now becomes lawful. Having police retrieve the documents showing that the Chief Psychiatrist was fully aware of the offending before distributing the fraudulent and slanderous set of documents (the “edited” set) will be of benefit before sending out the letter of response. 

    Quite a three card monte, and such a shame that there were people harmed as a direct result of the deliberate delays and the overt threats and attempt to “fucking destroy” me by the State. For trying to exercise my human and civil rights, and the protection of the law?

    I find it fascinating that despite looking, that people simply can’t see what I’m saying. A large number of lawyers…. though do they obtain a benefit by NOT looking? Lawyers who deliberately don’t look at what they’re told to not look at by the State? Emergency torture provisions? (whispers of ‘did I mention he’s related to the Cohens?’)

    I can see how this “editing” of legal narratives for legal representatives might make a mess of the justice system. But in this instance we are talking about people being deliberately brain damaged as a result of the ‘Fatwah’ that is issued against them by psychiatrists. One would have thought the legal protections would have been stricter (as opposed to the Chief Psychiatrists removal of protections creating carte blanche) given the damage that can be done with drugs and electricity based on a ‘suspicion’. Particularly when the paranoia caused by concealing your criminal offending may cloud the decision making process.

    You’d think someone with an interest in making the ‘system’ better might want to take a look at such a document, where the Chief Psychiatrist removes ALL legal protections from the law that he is charged with enforcing but……… seems that ‘advocates’ is code for throw them under a bus service because they pay better than the victims who are being loaded onto carriages. Always the stragglers who will pull the gold teeth of course but ….. to be expected I guess. Hi to the lawyer who said “I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof”…. look out for that number 27 Bus….. Bang.

    One lawyer even ‘unreading’ the letter. lol

  • I used to have a coffee mug which said “Harold and Fred, they make women Dead” Referring to Fred West of course.

    I think that in many ways Shipman was a victim of a system that didn’t protect him when he needed it most. he was unrepentant to the very end, knowing that all he needed to do to be found not guilty was to never confess.

    The three elements for prosecution? Means (okay access to morphine), Opportunity (yep, they were his ‘patients’ and trusted him, but what about the motive? The ONLY way to prove that is if he confesses, and maybe he was just a really bad doctor.

    So, as most know, keep your mouth shut, never go to the ‘confessional’, and you can never be held accountable ….. or so it seems.

    There are of course other means of dealing with such people, and doctors particularly psychiatrists, tend to be pretty good at playing with such people the same way that a cat plays with a ‘trapped’ mouse.

    “But this doesn’t seem to happen in Mental Health even though the unexpected death rate can be quite high.”

    In my State they don’t keep such data, the Euthanasia Act specifically makes sure such data is not kept.

    There was one situation where a number of snapped necks during ‘restraints’ were reported, and I assume someone got their wrist slapped for trying out their MMA ‘techniques’ on the ‘patients’, but were having difficulty procuring and keeping staff. So a bit of “editing” and a ‘verbal’ would ensure no one was responsible.

    And even if you did slip through the net and could actually prove the crimes, there is literally no one who cares about the cover ups the government does. Police finding out “who else has the documents”, and stealing your laptop to fond out who you have been communicating with …. because the concealment and the harm done as a result of the negligence mean they can’t possibly make any admissions. They’ve already jumped into bed with the criminals, and the photos of that are kind of embarrassing. So the idea of justice? Nah, never going to happen in a system that is perverted beyond recognition.

    “Australians Value a Rule of Law” Was that Rodney Rude who said that? Because it is a joke, given the State is concealing human rights abuses and denying access to legal representation under the guise of doing ‘investigations’. The Corruption watchdog is actually used to obstruct justice when it comes to certain people

  • “I am disgusted, disheartened and furious that this is still accepted as being just the way things are, as if a status quo of extreme suffering and early death is acceptable.”

    I think the turning point for me was the passing of a Euthanasia Act. There was something about the way it was done (after failing to have forced sterilizations of children without parental consent passed) and which appears to be a defense against what is about to occur.

    Of course it is an ‘internal matter’ and like the Chinese, keep your noses out of our business. Only ‘we’ understand the problem, and ‘we’ can’t discuss it with the plebs because they wouldn’t agree to what needs to be done.

    The bleeding liberals in the United Nations making the crimes of public officers the responsibility of the State? (and all the while allowing the sexual assaults’ of women to be covered up, and whistleblowers destroyed) There’s going to have to be a ‘wall’ between the people doing the ‘assisted dying’ and those turning a blind eye. We do of course have Himmler’s diaries as a ‘play book’, and the problem created by Josef Hartinger and the ‘assisted dyings’ at Dachau. How did they get around the same problem?

    Must admit, I hope I’m never in a position to say “i told you so”. and if it wasn’t for a doctor without the stomach for it rudely interrupting my ‘outcoming’ (and then “editing” of the documents) I wouldn’t be around to not say “I told you so”…… if that makes sense lol

    You get desensitized to it from what I’ve seen in the locked ward. Abu Ghraib being a good example of how quickly you can turn humans into animals with a little ‘role confusion’. Hence the chaotic and always a crisis situations which seem standard for mental institutions. They are deliberately designed to be that way, in a Gruen Effect kind of way. It sort of looks like a hospital, but there’s something about it which ……..

  • “What would that organized resistance look like?”

    I know what it won’t look like. Like one of the advertisments for their drugs lol

    Mind you, this age of ignorance we seem to be going through, where the public is being increasingly stripped of resources by those who have usurped the power of the vote, and where our elected representatives are simply put in place by media moguls to do their bidding.

    It’s simply not going to hold water for long. They’ve neglected the fire fighting equipment, and once a spark turns into a blaze, …… and they think the futures so bright, they gotta wear shades.

    “God will remind us what we already know, that the human race is about to reap what it’s sown” The The. Armageddon Days are Here (Again)

  • ‘Es got a point.

    I’ve never heard of Tucker Carlson, and in fact thought it was a food additive but …. had a listen and he does make some very good points.

    Particularly about the spend on advertising versus research and development.

    The media is to democracy what the bludgeon is to the totalitarian State (Chomsky) huh? The laws are in place to use force should there ever be a crisis as a result of the drugs being cut off. In fact, people where I live are just coming to terms with how many of their rights have been removed by stealth…. see the loss of housing rights for example.

    I guess the one question I have about it though is why is it a gender specific thing? Should we ban access to the drugs for males?

    I can see an expansion of the ‘industry’ if they can come up with a drug for people withdrawing from the drugs that does the opposite of what they say it does. That is, makes the withdrawal symptoms worse rather than better. But i’d be getting some of the guns back first. Either that or take a sabbatical in one of the properties bought with the money form the drugs….. you know, the Bahamas or some such tax haven. Come back when the shooting is over sort of thing. And someone pleeeeeease make sure the Nuclear Power plants are secured before they head off on holidays.

    I’ve been giving financial advice to the people at the Golf Club. Buy shares in guns and drugs. No need to get involved in Colombian cartels, you can do it on the stock exchange. Some guys get a license to do it, and some don’t. So you get people like Manuel Noriega trying to set up shop. Or the likes of Ariel Castro trying to get in on the psychiatric hostel business without a license.

    Stay legal I say, and get your accountant to help out with the drug distribution and gun sales.

    Seriously though, the guys got a point, and like the gun situation, it looks like it’ll end in tears.

  • Man plans, God laughs.

    I agree with a lot of what your suggesting JamesHillmandownwiththereligionofscientism. An ‘artificial’ housing crisis is being caused in my place right now. Properties acquired some time back by a select few, and then calls for “skilled migration” resulting in the immigration of skilled workers such as Uber drivers and Shopping Trolley Collectors has resulted in a deficit of housing. Upward pressure and calls for landlords to be able to put rents up on a monthly basis and evict anyone who is ‘behind’.

    Hey, I’d do it if I had the resources. It’s just sour grapes on my part that I’m not one of the select few.

    Thing is though, at some point one of them is going to make the ‘let them eat cake’ comment and ……… “if this is your first night at Fight Club, you have to fight”.

    And isn’t the paranoia of the people who are stripping the world of resources becoming obvious? State funded police departments being used by Private Clinics for torture and kidnappings of citizens? Yeah, okay threats from Police to peoples families means “it never happened” but ….. I saw it with my own eyes, along with the cowardly psychologist and social worker. But they are prepared to see what they are told to see.

    History tells us of many occasions where people have thought they were in total control and then…….. where the Hell did those Huns come from? I wonder sometimes if these people pray that there is no God, because the consequences for them if there is are not looking good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nzoPopQ7V0

  • “Start by asking for your medical records from your own doctor and you may be surprised that it contains evidence of incompetence and negligence.”

    Not sure about the ‘system’ in the US Gilbert, but in Australia they do what they call “editing”. In my case this meant removing the documents that showed I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs, and that a Community Nurse had lied to police telling them I was his “Outpatient”, and have them use a little rough stuff to make me talk to him This is the sort of ‘treatment’ that may be necessary to get you the ‘help’ you need.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    Now that your ‘willing’ to talk to him (because you did actually have the right to silence when you weren’t his “Outpatient”) he could put words in your mouth and produce a false statutory declaration for others to utter with (including our Chief Psychiatrist).

    Now, a legal representative on provision of a confidentiality agreement actually gets to examine unredacted documents, with the hospital identifying areas which are not to be disclosed to their clients highlighted, and a reason for the non disclosure to be given (in writing). This is a protection of human rights, that someone with your interest at heart gets to look and check if you’ve been abused.

    However, in my instance the documents provided to my ‘legal representatives’ was also “edited”, and the documented crimes removed, other documents containing sensitive information inserted in their place. I went from being the victim of serious criminal offending to a violent psychotic mental patient who had been being treated for more than 10 years by the hospital, and who was delusional about being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs.

    Sure they can deny me access to the documents, or parts of. But I had no idea they were concealing human rights abuses from legal representatives, who then actively conspire to “fucking destroy” the person who has been abused.

    Given the power by the State to do this type of “editing”, and the removal of legal protections from the Mental Health Act by the Chief Psychiatrist rewriting our Act (care to see the letter?), and enabling arbitrary detention and torture of citizens, I think my concerns about the ‘legal protections’ contained in our new Euthanasia Act are legitimate.

    The State does the crimes (human rights abuses), and the ‘legal representatives’ set up their ‘clients’ for a fall. Drafting complaints and then forging and uttering the responses from the Chief Psychiatrist. It worked a treat….. for a long while anyway. Next…….

  • Steve, I think there is an element of our cultures willingness to turn a blind eye. In much the same way the people of Germany did during the time of the National Socialists.

    At this point in time they are obtaining a benefit from it. In much the same way that the books looked pretty good while the N.S. were stripping resources and obtaining free labour from various stigmatised groups. At some point the people who have been damaged are going to be a financial burden……….. and what is going to be done then?

    Here’s one we prepared earlier, a Euthanasia Act demanded by the community. One with no numbers being collected, and the ability to “edit” documents to conceal the facts of matters and undermine the legal protections boasted about when it was passed. And we know that once your under the ‘care’ of the Mental Health Act that basically anything that is done to you can be called ‘medicine’, and the police can be used to stomp your head for non compliance with ‘doctors orders’. This includes ‘assisting’ you to die, the voluntary nature of it can be “edited” post hoc. Ask the Mental Health Law Centre principle lawyer about how that works lol

    You going to complain to the Schutzstaffel about the Schutzstaffel? I tried, and got ‘referred’ for a ‘snow job’ for my “hallucinations” that police take complaints about criminals rather than refuse to take the proof while they call the criminals to pick up the complainant. I know I know, a few threats to the witnesses and their families and “It never happened”.

    I think there’s more to it than just culture, more our regression to a state of fascism but…… time will tell.

  • I’ve got no problem with people seeking whatever help they feel they need.

    My cynicism comes from not wanting to speak to A therapist (note not MY therapist) resulting in me being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and then snatched out of my bed by police when I collapsed because unbeknownst to me I had been made into an “Outpatient” of a mental institution by a Community Nurse (legally there is a need for a diagnosis before you can be made a ‘patient’ but police tend to overlook these minor details when a therapist has gone to the trouble of having someone ‘prepared’ for an interrogation by ‘spiking’ and then ‘planting items for police to find.

    This is the method used to have people speak to the therapist when they are reluctant to talk. Tends to work pretty well, though the way they are changing ‘citizens’ into “outpatients” before even examining the person seems a bit much.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=6s

    Therapist calls police and requests ‘assistance’ with their ‘patient’, and police comply. Add to this the fact they can be ‘spiked’ to reduce the risk of harm (Concealed once in custody with a fraudulent prescription by a doctor who DOES have the right to prescribe date rape drugs. And throw down a knife to make police a little ‘edgy’) and getting people the ‘help’ they need is resolved. Though I note that the ‘spiking’ combined with the acute stress reaction does actually meet the standard of torture set out in the Convention Article 1, not that this matters either because the documents can be “edited” (that is the crimes are removed, commonly called criminal fraud except when hospitals do it with the authorisation of the Clinical Director) before being provided to legal representatives.

    Mental patient with a weapon sounds much better than asking police if they would kidnap a citizen because they refuse to talk to a therapist. And it’s not like police are going to notice the person isn’t an “Outpatient” when they are stupefied without their knowledge.

    This means that the idea of human rights is just that……. an idea. The laws nothing more than window dressing, and the cowards who stand and watch a bunch of hypocrites who say things like “they wouldn’t do that” and “omG, in my practice I …..”

  • So they fold up the card table on the corner, put the three cards in their pockets, and run with the money they have scammed from people.

    That money will be well hidden by the time any lawyers manage to get anything to court.

    Shave their beards off, and set up on another corner within a week.

    Always good to dream though. Not a chance of anything happening in Australia due to the corrupt nature of our legal system which would allow the lawyers who brought the claim to take a ‘back hander’ and throw their clients under the bus. The Mental Health Law Centre has been doing it for years. Violation of human rights? Not a problem, find out what the victim has got, and then conspire with the State to “fucking destroy” them. They simply refuse to allow anyone to complain, and call them mentally ill and require treatment. Works an absolute treat, people think this is a good place. Till you ask an aboriginal….. well, avoid that and it’s a good place. Mind you, Germany was looking good there for a while. Truth causes all sorts of problems once it gets out.

    We don’t even have a right to consent. Hospitals ‘spiking’ citizens and then writing fraudulent prescriptions for the covert administration of these drugs? Australian Health Practitioners Regulation Agency board doesn’t even see the problem. ‘Consent? What’s that? We do what we want, and silence any complaints with the Mental Health Act and the criminal negligence of police’

    I’ve got a letter here from the Law Centre with a complaint about me being ‘spiked’ and snatched from my bed and not informed I had been drugged with date rape drugs before being interrogated. And the response from our Chief Psychiatrist which make good reading. Care to take a look?

    I know the ‘advocates’ took a look and then ‘unread’ the letter, along with a number of lawyers (and a Member of Parliament). Quality of the work is questionable, given that I don’t think the Chief Psychiatrist has the power to rewrite the Mental Health Act and remove legal protections afforded the community. How can he do his job when he doesn’t know what the protections of the law are? No need when you can threaten and intimidate peoples families while you ‘treat’ the victims. But if none of you look then ………. what is that smell coming from those chimneys?

  • john kulu

    “Australian social psychologists say that people must be trained to give the “right opinion.” What is the “right opinion” on any subject and how can anyone be trained as such? Each brain is unique and I know those social psychologists would like to accomplish that and they can try; but they will fail.”

    Not necessarily. Certainly in Australia the recent use of ‘coercive methods’ to have the population vaccinated (the use of force available via the Public Health Act, though not the preferred method) has demonstrated to our ‘leaders’ (I say that in quote marks given the release of text messages between a Media Mogul and our Premier recently showing whose really the ‘Boss’) that they can pretty much do anything they like. It’s simply a matter of escalating the use of force rapidly.

    And I have no doubt that the use of torture seems to be highly effective, though as you suggest there are some who do hold out to the very end (hence the failure to ‘save’ someone not of the ‘right opinion’). So making the use of medicine a means to subject people to ‘enhanced coercive methods’ (mainly because they are “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” ie make citizens an “Outpatient” and torture away, and there is no avenue for complaint) will quite possible answer if you are correct about failure or success.

    Sure the National Socialist’s failed, and the French in Algeria (Fanon suggests that there was virtually no one that couldn’t be made of the “Right Opinion” as did General Fouad Allam Interior Ministry in Egypt 1958- 1987. basically saying that even the most ‘resistant’ thinkers were quite prepared to change their minds about remaining silent), but as is the way of humans, just because others failed is not proof their they will fail.

    I think Orwell described this way of thinking in 1984. What we need is a ‘leader’ who has the stomach to do to us what needs to be done because they love us (and not for their personal gain). Which brings me back to the use of force in ‘treatments’……. and Dr Selwyn Leeks.

    And it’s strange the way we think we are secure, and should we be snatched from our beds and subjected to acts of torture, that somehow, our family and friends will come to our aide. Not the case, they’re too worried about their own ‘mental health’ to be concerned about what is being done ‘over the razorwire’. It becomes and every man for themselves type of situation, with the jackboots being used to ensure that compliance is forthcoming from a pacified public

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    Got a complaint? You’ll need to take it up with police yourself is probably what your lawyer will tell you. Which in this mans situation will be difficult from an ‘induced coma’ (or ‘chemical restraint’ with no National Standard)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-EN_QplYYU

  • “We don’t have Catherine to tell her own story…”

    This is an important point. And I wonder if Mr and Mrs Stence have any of Catherine’s writing or art which sets out her position on any of her ‘treatment’.

    As stated above (?) I spoke to a parent who had watched her child step into traffic after an appointment with ‘services’. My concern has always been (and given the way legislation was bulldozed through our parliament to enable the unrestrained use of ECT on teens) that the child was being ‘coerced’ into having ECTs done.

    The “damning report” into the way the child was dealt with, written by the Chief Psychiatrist, didn’t last long online.

    Though it does seem that what is occurring is that this case has become a means to call for MORE drugs, and MORE power to intervene earlier which ….. is not necessarily the answer. However, if one were to be speaking about less drugs and less power, then you’d probably get to meet the Operations Manager who would tell you “We’ll fucking destroy you”, and they mean it.

    Get with the program or get fuking destroyed seems to be the model. And in my State at least, police are a resource at the hands of these people, to be used at their discretion and without accountability. Even going as far as to retrieve evidence/proof of criminality and ensure that there is “insufficient evidence” for them to take any action.

    Any wonder that after a review that the U.N. concluded that Australia’s mental health laws ARE a violation of human rights, and that the treatment MAY constitute torture. The reason for the MAY is that without a confession from a doctor that their intent is to harm, you can’t prove it. Never attend the ‘confessional’ (or at least don’t make admissions there) and you may get 40 years of harm before anyone even begins to talk about matters, rather than conspiring to do cover ups for the good of the institutions.

  • Not sure if this has had a mention on MiA but

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/300503822/notorious-lake-alice-psychiatrist-dr-selwyn-leeks-dies

    Dr Selwyn Leeks has died. It seems that the claim that animals don’t do what humans do to each other is not necessarily correct. Take a look at what this animal did to people. Moving from New Zealand to Australia and being allowed to continue with his “pioneering work”.

    And things are certainly heading on the wrong direction.

    The new and improved Mental Health Act protects shock docs form being sued for damage done to children (who can now ‘consent’ to the ‘treatments’ at 14). The State mantra being that the Mental Health Act has “added protections”, though who is actually being protected is never mentioned.
    The attempt to have forced sterilisation of children without parental consent only just failed to pass the upper House (“we’ll be back”). This was to be used against chilrdren who have Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, and which seems to directly correlate with the aboriginal population.
    When a doctor went to police and ‘confessed’ to ending the life of a patient, they refused to accept the confession, and actually ensured they ‘dug up’ the wrong body so they could claim their was “insufficient evidence”. The newly elected government then passed Euthanasia Laws which they told us 87% of the population wanted, though I never seemed to meet any of these 87% (Solomon Asch?).

    And was this not the same problem faced by the National Socialist’s when Josef Hartinger exposed the killing of two Jewish men at Dachau? The killings put on hold until they got the laws they needed to separate out the ‘joint enterprise’, and Hartingers report hidden away in a safe.

    And consider that the human rights protections enshrined in our laws are being overcome by the State “editing” legal narratives in documentation before they can be examined by a persons legal representatives, thus ensuring there is NEVER a case where the State could be held to account for acts of torture, kidnappings or killing. They simply “edit” it out of existence. Asking the Attorney General if this is lawful results in a referral to mental health services for ‘treatments’. And when all roads lead to Auschwitz, well…… glad you guys seem to be aware of the history. In fact, I wonder sometimes given the attempt to have it made unlawful to make comparisons to our Euthanasia Law and what was done in Germany, if we haven’t elected representatives’ who think that this time they will get it right.

    The ‘genetic counselling’ you speak of quite a ‘buzz’ field where I live. Particularly in Private Clinics where a refusal to empty your wallet can mean being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and waking to police with weapons ready to drag you off to a locked ward for a ‘chemical kosh’ and some electricity. No referral necessary (see the “edited” documents which can make anything possible).

    I’d like to read your paper, but finding myself in the middle of the beginnings of what you describe as ‘history’, I’m afraid I don’t need the horror. Looking at current events., it seems our ‘politicians’ are using Himmler’s diary as a ‘play book’.

  • “The story of man’s inhumanity to man seems never-ending.”

    Too true, as we are about to find out it would seem as our Government is militarily preparing for what they call “success” (seems that they prefer this term to preparing for war. Though a bit like the story about the “effers”, we knew what he really meant lol)

    The 4 Corners program interesting regarding the UN. Seems their rather ‘soft’ use of psychiatry to deal with whistleblowers (who are being sexually assaulted by the Senior Management, and the Secretary General looks the other way despite his “zero tolerance” public stance) is worthy of a whole 45 minutes of televison, but the use of it to torture, kidnap and well….. you know what I mean when I say ‘outcome’ people for complaining about public sector misconduct isn’t worth a mention.

    The sad thing is that had they been ‘sectioned’ in Australia, then the program we watched would never have been made. Their dismissal for speaking truth would have resulted in them receiving the ‘treatments’ for their ‘illness’ rather than being released. That’s liberty for you. The fortunate must not be restrained in their exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.

    Mind you, I do think that there is a move in this country to deliberately discredit the UN. Human rights are great in principle, but not a lot of good when you need to get some information from people unwilling to speak. Hence the regression to fascist tactics which, after all, do actually work. Not a problem getting people to comply with draconian laws during (and now after) COVID.

    Our now Attorney General wearing a t shirt at a rally to release the video of the torture of an aboriginal man in police custody (2011) saying “They that can give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety” Ben Franklin. Might explain the lack of respect for a public that forfeited their liberties for a little temporary safety during the early days of covid. Seems a path that the fascists have used before once they realise the public are afraid of their government….. because of their use of the Mental Health Act (and now our Euthanasia Act) for purposes other than what it was designed for.

  • “Academia, particularly of late, has been known for its willingness to exclude perfectly sane and rational thinkers and researchers simply based on some idea that they “don’t fit.””

    This one goes back to 1865, and how ironic that he died after a beating in a mental institution.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

    I note that the ABC in Australia has an item on the Four Corners show tonight showing how a UN agency worker, who was going to raise the issue of the Uighurs in China with an ‘ambassador'(?) found herself being dragged away by police to a mental institution, despite her protests and attempt to assert her human rights. Thus missing the online meeting. Timing was perfect.

    Mind you, it looks like she was in Canada, because in Australia, she would have likely been drugged without her knowledge with date rape drugs, run over and had her head stomped by police, and then injected with a ‘chemical restraint’ ensuring that she didn’t get the opportunity to complain….. or if she did, the documents relating to her ‘assessment’ would have been “edited”. I guess they learn it when they complain about those African countries, and ensure that there is no avenue for complaint in places like Australia, despite this being a breach of the Conventions they have ratified..

    Show them UN workers how many human rights they really have huh? Looks like it might be interesting when the UN is using psychiatry to ensure that human rights abuses don’t get raised with the alleged abuser, and the person who does try ends up dribbling in a cell …. or worse, ‘unintentionally negatively outcomed’ in an Emergency Dept.

    It seems from what I have seen that the claim is that she had threatened suicide (so the police claimed) and that they were not qualified to ‘assess’ her. In my State the law used to contain the Criteria of “the person MUST have a mental illness” (and by defualt in the Definitions part of the Act, this was set out as being a person receiving psychiatric treatment from a psychiatrist. If….. and it’s a big IF, she had no psychiatrist and was not being treated (say with anti depressants) then such an arbitrary detention would have been unlawful in my State. of course tell that to the people holding a pistol to your head.

    And I assume Canada doesn’t authorise the ‘spiking’ of anyone without their knowledge and then write fraudulent prescriptions for the ‘spikings’ with date rape drugs after police and others have interrogated the victim?

    Who’d have though a police constable has the medical knowledge to authorise such druggings. And well, with the power to conceal and threaten and intimidate witnesses, who is going to find out anyway?

  • “At present, defendants in dozens of cases are without any legal representation despite the fact that many among them face long-term prison sentences if they are convicted.”

    From the same article re Tajikistan.

    Consider the situation with mental health ‘treatments’ being administered by force when the ‘defendant’ (how can you defend an allegation of ‘false consciousness’ if made by a psychiatrist?) has NO EFFECTIVE legal representation? All well and good if someone with a law degree (and a bill the size of a mortgage to pay for the ‘education’) is appointed to the ‘defendant’, but not a lot of good when that legal representative is using the ‘confidentiality agreements’ to conspire with the State to conceal the human rights abuses.

    But who is going to know? Only the lawyer and the State, and both parties are going to keep their mouths shut right? And the ‘victim’ (call them client if you will) is in many cases in a drugged stupor so highly unlikely to be able to figure out what has been done behind their backs.

    Frantz Fanon writes;

    “We can cite in the same way the case of psychiatrists who were prime movers in ‘Presence francaise’ who when they were told off to give an expert opinion on a prisoner had the habit from the very first of proclaiming their great friendship with the defending lawyer, and of assuring the prisoner that the two of them (the barrister and the psychiatrist) would get him out of there. All the prisoners who had the benefit of expert opinions were guillotined. These psychiatrists boasted in front of us of their elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance'”

    Fanon even describing the method used to have the ‘defendant’ ‘medicated’ (consensually, as opposed to the covert methods employed in my instance ie ‘drink spiked’) via the exploitation of trust.

    Lawyer X

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Gobbo

    I don’t know that I would use the term “elegant”, though like the addition of Noble to Lie, it does tend to soften what is actually being described. A “civilian death” becomes “collateral damage”. Think you’ve got a right to privacy/confidentiality? Think again.

  • Police are not going to assist private property trespassers.
    They might decline to run people off of public property.
    Joshua

    Police WILL assist a Community Nurse in gaining unlawful access to a property IF the Community Nurse tells them that he needs to speak to his “Outpatient”. Police ignorant of the fact that the citizen is actually not an “Outpatient”, and by the time they have kicked in the door and ‘restrained’ the “Outpatient”, the subject is now forced to speak to the Community Nurse at the point of a gun. Something which is frowned upon by police, that is putting a gun to someone’s head to have them answer questions. Not a problem with mental health because the response can be called a ‘mental illness’ and they can be treated for it. So using police in this manner, to create an ‘acute stress reaction’, a major benefit for these mental health professionals.

    As far as running people off public property, we have what are called “Move on Orders”, which police complete with a ‘verbal’ (say the person is drunk, despite the fact he may be the Grand Mufti, and therefore doesn’t consume alcohol), and then arrest them for non compliance with the Order. And given that they are “hallucinating” you can now make an order for them to be ‘assessed’ by mental health ….. another ‘verbal’ and you may find yourself being ‘chemically restrained’ and incapable of responding to the questions put to you by your newly appointed psychiatrist. Dribbling grunts not a language even they can fully comprehend.

    Police will do whatever the fuk they want in such an environment.

  • Interesting.

    I note the International Commission of Jurists writes on their website that in Tajikistan;

    “According to reports, lawyers are reluctant to defend people arrested and charged in connection with the protests for fear of retaliation, including as a result of spurious disciplinary actions against them. The ICJ is also concerned at reports that lawyers are being warned not to be too zealous in their legal representation of their clients.”

    Sounds very much like the way lawyers are afraid to represent their ‘clients’ on the allegations put regarding their mental health in Australia. ‘Spiked’ with date rape drugs, and then snatched from your bed by police with no reasonable grounds, then interrogated by public officers and police before being medically assessed and not informed you had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs,……. and when you approach a lawyer to provide you with ‘advice’ regarding your rights, all you get is thrown under a bus.

    Well, the State did go to the trouble of ensuring that the ‘legal representatives’ did not obtain the documents they had a right to access (lets not be too zealous in asking for what they have a right to examine to protect human rights…. that is, unredacted documents showing the offending), and provided them instead with an “edited” version of reality. I feel fairly sure that the threats and intimidation used against my family and other witnesses, was also applied to the ‘legal representatives’ to ensure that they did NOT pursue the matters, and instead pretended to make a complaint to the relevant authority (Office of the Chief Psychiatrist), and then forged a response from said authorities to ensure that the complaint regarding human rights abuses went nowhere. How vicious to gaslight a victim of torture with such a letter forged by your own legal representative?

    A ‘flag’ placed on the victim by Police ensuring that any attempt to complain would result in a ‘referral’ for ‘treatment’ by the very people who had violated my human rights. I can’t help but wonder if they do the same for people complaining about the mafia, that is, call the criminals and let them know there is a problem and to come pick up the complainant before they look at the documented proof.

    Was the Law Centre ‘coerced’ into acting in such a manner? Or were they willing participants in the attempt to pervert the course of justice for an increase in their funding from the State? It would be a great way to ensure that your human rights record was maintained as ‘good standing’ and enable the use of torture methods which could then be concealed as being ‘treatment’ for fabricated ‘illnesses’, and covered up as “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” (Article 1 of the Convention against the use of Torture). Amazing what can be achieved with some document “editing”, and lawyers who look the other way while the State resolves it’s problems with a ‘chemical kosh’.

    I also note it is a known fact that citizens in Australia can be denied access to legal representation, though any comment regarding this fact is avoided by this International Commission of Jurists. In fact, the actions being taken seem coincide with skin color, countries such as Australia where human rights are being violated on a massive scale ignored……. for the right to ‘fundraise’ perhaps?

    Throwing people whose human rights have been violated under the bus by pro bono lawyers a means to ensure your financial stability in this country.

    Care to take a look?

    I thought not.

  • Nice comment nchurch. As someone who was viciously attacked for daring to complain about being called an “Outpatient” before police were called to detain me ( a criminal offence under our Criminal Code), ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug which then became my “Regular Medications” with a fraudulent prescription, and then interrogated for 7 hours, I truly understand your comment about the ‘underground therapist’ not calling the Police on you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=2s

    The ability to authorise the ‘spiking’ of citizens and then have police cause an ‘acute stress reaction’ before such interrogations being enabled by the criminal negligence of the ‘legal representatives’ who claim to be protecting the community. Imagine being able to ‘spike’ with ‘acid’ rather than their current drugs of choice? Wouldn’t that have been effective in Abu Ghraib? (which technically used the same ‘coercive methods’ being enabled here. The Medical Officer able to authorise the ‘spiking’ of the ‘patient’ post hoc…. that is, once they have “edited” the documents to make them a ‘patient’)

    Worth going back to the article at this point;

    “I’ll leave this tragic misadventure at this point. Certainly, a lot more needs to be done to help this poor man and at this stage I would be foolish to prognosticate.”

    Leave the misadventure at the point where psychiatrist starts drugging the guy and considering the use of electricity? Why there? And let me say that he will be a “poor man” if he has to pay for the ‘treatments’, given that he can now be snatched from his bed by police and ‘treated’ until his wallet is empty. In fact, that can happen anyway, given that all that needs to occur is a Community Nurse to tell police he is an “Outpatient” and the whole mechanism goes to work on ‘fuking destroying’ him and his family. This being the response by a hospital administrator to my pointing out her duty to report suspected misconduct to the appropriate body. Her choosing instead to not report and conspire to pervert. and with zero accountability, and police actively engaged in concealing their misconduct, well……. glad someone didn’t have the stomach for what was planned for my ‘treatment’ and rudely interrupted the intended ‘unintended negative outcome’.

    “When a psychiatrist defrauds or abuses, that is one abuser *plus an entire system with the force of law* against one victim/patient.”

    Hey, in my State they let Community Nurses diagnose ‘patients’ before they even leave the hospital (a telephone call from a concerned citizen [enemy] enough to warrant ‘intervention’ of police and the paperwork will be sorted later with what they call “editing” ie the removal of the crimes. Police prepared to retrieve evidence/ documented proof if necessary. No psychiatrist necessary until they have basically traumatised the victim, and then hand them over to a psychiatrist to do the cover up. Called an ‘assessment’ which they have ‘prepared’ you for [once again see how inmates were prepared in Abu Ghraib]. Not unlike the scenario above really.

    The legal protection of “suspect on reasonable grounds” (ie the “Criteria” set out in the Mental Health Act), no longer required now they have reworded the law to read “suspect on grounds THEY believe to be reasonable” (ie arbitrary detentions, with police used to ‘coerce’ the victims to speak, and then allow them to be ‘verballed’ on the statutory declarations. These then used for the purposes of uttering, whilst the victims family is fuking destroyed).

    So much for your right to complain huh? Australian Charter of Heath Care Rights lmao. Flagged on Police system for an automatic referral for “hallucinating” (ie thinking you have the right to complain to police about criminals, when they think they have retrieved the proof from you) should you dare have the proof. Your own ‘legal representative’ telling these people, ummm you might want to have another look before we look. There’s a little bit of “editing” to be done first.

    Consider, a lawyer you hire can keep information that you were ‘spiked’ and had a Community Nurse lie to police regarding your status to have them force you to speak at the point of a gun because ……… they have signed a confidentiality agreement with the State and know you will not get access to the information you were the victim of crime? Though I note the hospital did “edit” the fraudulent set of documents for them first, before providing them, despite the protections afforded by our Chief Psychiatrist of allowing legal representatives access to unredacted documents to protect human rights……… they couldn’t do that. Tell people they are using police for kidnappings and torture? You must be mad.

    Anyway, good comment I thought.

  • “I think I may have initially looked at her like she had just told me the moon was made of cheese.”

    You mean, IT ISN’T? But, I just googled Wallace and Gromit and………

    Must admit I don’t feel comfortable with your “mental health” being saved though. Restored? “God heals, the doctor just collects the fees” Ben Franklin I believe. And the attributions given this statement.

    I was taking an anti poison for a while, but found that it was making me sick. Now it simply can’t be that something called an anti poison could be poison right? Side effects they tell me, and so many have benefited from the ‘treatment’. I visited some of them in the graveyard and yep…… they lived productive lives if you read their obituaries.

    I think Graham Young knew exactly how this worked. If you watch the Young Poisoners Handbook all should become apparent. More ‘medicine’ mother?

  • “However, there is one thing in this article that really does concern me and I am fearful that this attitude may be a contagion amongst many disciplines and other places is that the Australian social psychologists say that people must be trained to give the “right opinion.” What is the “right opinion” on any subject and how can anyone be trained as such?”

    I too find myself fearful of this ‘contagion’ rebel. Is it just an attitude? Or something deeper?

    I suppose in one sense that people who have such training, AND who are engaged in a process of using a “noble lie” or “necessary illusions” would think of themselves as doing so for the right reasons. But surely in a ‘democracy’ the use of force to ‘bring people around’ to other ways of thinking would be seen as counterproductive?

    It’s worth thinking about the use of the ‘noble lie’, which can and has resulted in some fairly disastrous historic situations. And when the intent is to deliberately harm, one would be hard pushed to make the claim that the actions resulting from the lie were noble. Though some have tried….. the National Socialists’ in Germany claiming that the lies they told were for the good of the Nation.

    And is this not a pattern we see being repeated with, for example, the neo conservatives in politics? The creation of ‘enemies’ to use the fear narrative to control the public? I’d ask my Russian/Chinese COVID carrying drug dealing mental patient neighbor, but I don’t really trust him anymore.

    “What is the “right opinion” on any subject and how can anyone be trained as such?”

    The right opinion is anything that the people at mental health believe is the right opinion. Which can change with the shifts. Like the ‘editor’ of a newspaper doing the bidding of the owner (Kerry Packer never needed to tell anyone what he wanted published, nor Murdoch), they just instinctively KNOW what they want published. The prison guards at Auschwitz not needing to ask their superiors how they should conduct ‘business’.

    In my State the model being used is one where the ‘elected Party’ (which has not discussed the matters during election campaign) has the newspapers publish what they want to be true (87% of people want Euthanasia Laws. See the work of Solomon Asch on social conformity), they then hire ‘media personalities’ to manage the media output, silence their critic with threats of laws making it illegal to make comparisons to the laws passed by the National Socialists, make the laws sound like the are a benefit to the community (knowing that they are a benefit to a few), and present their newly passed laws as having ‘legal protections’ galore (more than a 100 legal protections in our Euthanasia laws, which can be simply bypassed with the “editing” of the documents released from the hospital to ‘legal representatives’ who then utter with what would be called fraud in other countries, but will not be pursued by Police due to it not being in the public interest. “Might be best I don’t know about that” they tell me when their ‘referral’ for ‘treatment’ fails and they are presented with proof of human rights abuses).

    It’s absolutely amazing what can be achieved when you isolate people from one another, and then start telling them ‘noble lies’. I think the response to such a model has even shocked our politicians.

    I think it is well worth considering the ‘necessary illusions’ being told by psychiatrists (and their cohorts). I think the results of not being checked in their ‘noble lies’ is resulting in them leading each other astray. Hence what Gotzsche observes in the text books. The people profiting from the ‘regulatory capture’ (something which is easily done when you know someone is lying about something) simply don’t care about the truth, there’s no money to be made from it….. and in fact, in some instances money to be lost when people ‘stop taking their medications’ due to someone publishing books containing facts (they might even get called ‘public enemies’ for their truth speaking. Exposing the noble lie obviously not a good look for the liars).

    Got to say thanks for your comment, because it really does make me realise the model adopted by Australia. The ‘masses’ not the critical thinkers that are found in places that are working towards democracy, and not in the other direction. It seems that the opinion of our ‘leaders’ is that the masses are suffering from anosognosia (jahilliyah) and therefore leading them with a ‘necessary illusion’ (these are ‘illnesses’, these ‘medications’ work) is justified.

    Strangely enough, this was the same ‘illusion’ put forward by Ayman al Zawahiri in his book Knights under the Banner of the Prophet I believe. Only the ‘vanguard’ knows what is a true Muslim (the rest suffering from anosognosia), and should be killed, by any means necessary. Which is interesting in regards the comments about ‘cultural differences’ put forward by D Hume below. Same basic political battle, (good versus evil. Psychiatrists against the evil ‘illnesses’ [gun violence caused by untreated mental illnesses] justifying the means, Islamic Jihad against the corrupted Muslims……)

    P.S. I have written to your President and suggested that to have the Chinese cancel the rather large debt, he may consider giving them Australia? There would be very little objection to such a ‘trade’, given that the population here will pretty much go along with anything the government says. Unlike Taiwan where the petrol bomb throwing protesters are having their human rights violated by being arbitrarily detained for their actions. This being a mental illness requiring ‘treatment’ in Australia, keeping it all under the guise of “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction”. The fear of the Police boot to the head, and then the administration of the ‘chemical kosh’ a means to have them “trained in the right opinions” lol.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=2s

    “I got ma head right Bawss” Cool Hand Luke.

    The “induced coma” ensuring that the exercise of human rights not an option, while they “edit” the documentation and threaten witnesses.

  • I was reading about the situation with Richard Pipes and Team B, where the CIA had placed ‘black propaganda’ about Russie in the newspapers. This was picked up by a writer who then used it to make the claim that the USSR was an imminent threat to the Director of the CIA William Casey.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

    The CIA went to him and said “listen, we were the ones who fabricated all this stuff, it isn’t true” but he chose to not believe them and instead went on believing the fabrications.

    I found this so similar to my situation where people were sitting with me, and could have easily dismissed the fabrications used to justify the kidnapping and torture but …..

    Personally I wonder if it should be that they don’t get a choice in facts, to manufacture falsehoods. Most of this was done by omission, rather than commission. Don’t like that fact, simply leave it out despite it being critical to the outcome.

  • “I am in schooling for Psychology with a focus in mental health for this very reason.”

    Can you then explain the difference between a “medication” and a “drug” to us all given what you have written above please Bree? Hint, Dr Moncrieff does a good job of this in her lecture titled The Myth of the Chemical Cure.

    I know when I did my Public Health Pesticides license we were told to NEVER use the term ‘poison’, but to call what we were spraying ‘chemical’.

  • “Of course, the Mental Health System could just hold a gun to our heads and tell us that, if we don’t take the meds, we’ll be executed. Maybe, that would be more honest, but, then, Psychiatry would be an OVERT form of Terrorism like Boko Haram or ISIL rather than a COVERT form of Terrorism.”

    This is where we are at in Australia, with police providing the trauma ( the ‘gun’, acute stress reactions) and referrals (arbitrary detentions), and ‘mental health’ concealing the human rights abuses such as acts of torture with a label and forced ‘treatments’. And then pretend like they don’t know why they are failing, and need more money and powers to ‘intervene’ earlier.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that, if your thinking short term. Most public officers aware of what will happen should they not tow the Party line….. that is orders for an ‘assessment’ to be done.

    I used to think this was all one sided, until I met some police who had been subjected to the ‘treatments’ for their PTSD (they don’t use the same labels for public officers, u less there is a need to push a little harder). Then I realised, they are actually targets of the ‘coercive’ mechanisms of psychiatry more so than the general public AND are aware of what happens when ‘dribble therapy’ is used. The suicides put down to the trauma of the job.

    A quick read of Frantz Fanons’ Wretched of the Earth will reveal all. Psychiatrists who, when they had been asked “to give an expert opinion on a prisoner had the habit from the very first of proclaiming their great friendship with the defending lawyer, and of assuring the prisoner that the two of them (the barrister and the psychiatrist) would get him out of there. All the prisoners who had the benefit of expert opinions were guillotined. These psychiatrists boasted in front of us of their elegant method of overcoming ‘resistance’.” (p.229).

    ‘Your doctor has done you a big favor’ (in their ‘assessment’/report for the courts) being words you don’t want to hear from your solicitor. Nicola Gobbo will tell you how it works.

  • “There is no regard of outcomes- just endless treatment- after all it is just a business.”

    Not a lot of people I do ‘business’ with, can have me ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and snatched from my bed at the point of a police weapon and incarcerated in a cage for not buying their ‘product’. But yes, where such things as the original report that I required to satisfy my ex employer are concerned, it really was ‘just business’.

  • My best guess is that there are some things we were never meant to know. Though I must say I find the ex juvantibus fallacy an interesting way of explaining the ‘three card Monte’ being done by psychiatrists.

    “I would probably do better by refraining from describing the theory that I have studied and stick to my main message, which is that Psychiatry is purposely ignoring information that would lead it out of the woods, indicating that it would prefer to remain ignorant of its own subject.”

    Personally, i’d be interested in the theory you have studied, but I understand why you might feel that way. (just between you and me, they don’t much like Muslims either)

    And your comment about preferring to remain ignorant of it’s own subject reminded me of the ‘copper’ who found it best he didn’t know about the attempt to ‘outcome’ me as a direct result of the misconduct of his fellow officers. How often do we hear of psychiatrists saying “it might be best I don’t know about that”. Which is possibly the reason this particular article has been so popular. It might just be best they DO know about this, or at least not be able to deny they were told.

    I heard today on the radio that they have an ‘anti psychotic’ drug which can be injected twice a year for ‘schizophrenia’, saving all the problems of taking pills everyday (check the ‘chemical handcuffs’ twice a year, saving doctor a heap of time). Not heard much of the details, just a general skipping over the facts to prepare the public for the ‘scientific breakthrough’ from psychiatry.

    It might be a good time to enter the discussion and ask if the shortened life expectancy, lack of recovery etc with those pills is the same with this new injectable. ‘new and improved’?

  • Thanks for your reply Russell, and I’m glad that your not going forward not realising that the legal avenues for change are blocked before you even begin.

    I was shocked that the pro bono legal service in my State was being used as a ‘Venus fly trap’ to ensure that any ‘patients’ who had been subjected to human rights abuses did not have any avenue open to make a complaint about such abuses.

    Consider that in the context of the agreement my State has ratified with the United Nations in Article 13 of the Convention against the use of Torture.

    Article 13
    “Each State Party shall ensure that any individual who alleges he has been subjected to torture in any territory under its jurisdiction has the right to complain to, and to have his case promptly and impartially examined by, its competent authorities. Steps shall be taken to ensure that the complainant and witnesses are protected against all ill-treatment or intimidation as a consequence of his complaint or any evidence given.”

    A request to the Attorney General to be allowed to make a complaint results in a referral for ‘treatment’ by the very people you are alleging tortured you. The Human Rights Commission doesn’t deal with allegations of torture (probably because no one survives the attempt to make a complaint (refouler, ala Jamal Kashoggi ‘flags’ being placed on the complainants).

    And the hospital administrator was quite open about her threats when I tried to make a complaint about the crimes I was aware had been committed at the time (not aware of others they were engaging in to cover up their misconduct).

    I know that I spoke to the woman I mentioned above whose 13 year old daughter ended her life. My concerns for her in her attempt to have ‘the system’ changed (despite our differences in our opinions as to the existence of ‘mental illness’ and the ‘treatments’) was that she would likely be stripped of her assets by lawyers who are quite prepared to take money from people knowing that the type of collusion you speak of is going to occur.

    Though once again, in my State people can be denied access to legal representation, unlike the US which I believe has this right enshrined (with all the problems that come with access). I don’t know that it can be appreciated what effect that has on the legal ‘system’ and justice, which is basically like our electoral system, a show piece to make claims of democracy.

    “One of the saddest and most maddening sub-stories in this, for us, was how the very legal system in our state that is supposed to represent the “voiceless” patient ended up colluding with the hospital and stripping away our daughter’s rights. That could be a story in itself.”

    Our Minister for Mental Health was asked in Parliament about a report showing that nearly 50% of women who had been hospitalised in the last year reported being sexually assaulted. Her response? “You can’t listen to them, they’re mental patients”. That’s the sort of ‘protection’ people in our ‘system’ receive.

    I have never wondered about how the human rights abuses which ARE occurring never get reported unless their is a means to twist the narrative as a way of calling for MORE power and money since.

    The removal of that Minister after an allegation outside Parliament of dereliction of duty brought about very little change. Meet the new Boss, same as a the old Boss.

    Still, from Balaams Donkey, I wish you well. I’m sure the leadership of the National Socialist’s in Germany were given fair warning about where their conduct might end. Only realising that it is God in control when they got to meet Albert Pierrepoint. Sometimes it may be best we don’t see the ‘outcomes’ of such situations for our own benefit. As the person who rudely interrupted the attempt to ‘unintentionally negatively outcome’ me said, he didn’t have the stomach for it.

  • “Generalizations are always wrong.”

    Not all the time.

    there are two kinds of people in this world, those that think there are two kinds of people, and those that don’t.

    lol

    I heard a Dr Ibrahim on the radio today talking about a bi yearly injection of a drug for ‘schizophrenia’. Has anyone heard anything about this new ‘wonder drug’ for this non existent ‘disease’? And will it have the same effect as the pills it is replacing? That is, killing people 20 years before their time?

  • I am reminded of John Berger’s Ways of Seeing in this regard.

    Difficult to ‘unsee’ the slander once it has been smeared all over you. The example given by Berger is the last painting done by Vincent van Gogh.

    This is a painting by Vincent van Gogh…… yeah, so what.

    This is the painting he was working on when he walked out into a field where he shot himself.

    This information changes the way we view the painting, and it can not be undone.

    So, should you be slandered to your legal representatives, will they be able to put that slander aside and deal with your matters without a bias? Not according to Berger.

    And I note that the Community Nurse in my instance had a prepared narrative which he then simply applies to his victims. Very easy to ‘verbal’ that narrative, which I have dealt with in detail elsewhere.

    C.N. “Do you have a knife?”

    Self “of course, I have a drawer full of them in my kitchen”

    C.N. “Do you have a knife you carry with you?”

    Self “I have a pocket knife which I use when I’m working on my old car”

    C.N. “could you use that knife to protect yourself?”

    Self “Seriously? Of course I could”

    I assume the loaded questioning here is obvious.

    Community Nurse writes on the statutory declaration under “communicated matters”

    “Has knife for self protection”

    My request to speak to a lawyer before answering his question about drug use became;

    “refused to answer re substance abuse”

    Refusing to answer a question becomes proof your mentally ill? Or is it just a way of raising suspicion for the paranoids to pick up and run with? In fact, he was aware that I had been ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug and had more information about my drug abuse than I did. Though that part of the narrative was quickly dropped, instead preferring to interrogate me, and then hand me on to police for interrogation without informing me OR having me medically assessed.

    This may even sound familiar to many who have examined their documents. Especially given our Police are sent for ‘training’ in Creative Writing should their statements be a little too factually accurate.

    These are not all honorable people you will be dealing with. And it is an unfortunate fact that others tend to turn their backs on you for fear of their own families. Something anyone of Jewish descent would be able to explain quite easily.

    I know the psychologist who refused to accept the police referral when I attended the Station with the documented proof of what I am saying, laughed with me about their claim I was “hallucinating”.

    That is, until they had to back track and try and conceal their attempt to have the victim of their misconduct ‘snowed’ for turning up in their Station with documents they thought they had retrieved. Then the psychologist became afraid for his family, given that he knew that I had already involved the corruption watchdog, and police were getting him to find out “who else has the documents?”.

    Confidentiality? I suppose it’s only a little coercion because they wouldn’t ‘fuking destroy’ his family for speaking the truth would they? Well, they do have ‘history’. And I suppose the fact that I haven’t seen my family for more than 10 years as a direct result of their vicious attack on me for trying to complain means they haven’t actually done any harm. I don’t have a family (or anything else) to ‘fuking destroy’ anymore.

    Another success for psychiatry it would seem. And it is a benefit to the State to ensure we do not get together and unravel what actually happened. better my family thinks I am the nutjob as a result of my genetics and not as a direct result of the vicious gaslighting and torture they subjected me to because……. and that’s what is so bizarre, their ‘reasons’ for doing this to me and my family. “We were trying to save your marriage”.

    And because I refused to speak to a psychologist, they felt that subjecting me to acts of torture were justified (if we can force him to speak then we can do good, so torture via ‘spiking’ and having police induce an ‘acute stress reaction’ [ie rough em up a bit] should work)…… read the Convention, no “emergency provisions’ and “no superior authority”……. except when they think otherwise.

    Those nutjobs that wrote that documents have no understanding of the real world… of course there is a need for torture, why else would there be a loophole of “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction”? Just call them an “Outpatient” and it’s all good. Like a card trick, torture becomes medicine with the change of status. Like the drugs I was ‘spiked’ with became my “Regular Medications” with a fraudulent prescription.

  • “When they kill people there is about as much fuss as when people die in prison.”

    A lot of noise being made here about human rights abuses by Saudi Arabia and their ‘sports washing’ of these alleged abuses.

    Whilst I don’t know if the news is being “edited” before being presented to the public, what I can say is that it takes a lot of jumping through hoops to overlook the Aboriginal Deaths in Custody of people who have been convicted of such serious offences as shoplifting, whilst pointing fingers at others and attempting to take the moral high ground.

    I find myself wondering about how many of these deaths in custody are being “edited” before being examined by the authorities. And is it not the case that Australia is involved in such ‘sports washing’ of the more than 200 years of abuses? Which continue to this very day.

    Similar to Catherine’s story, a young girl of 13 waves goodbye to her mother and steps into traffic after an appointment with mental health services. And the documents relating to this tragic outcome get “edited” before being presented to the Coronial Inquest? I know I have examined in detail what might have occurred had my attempt at suicide had been successful, and it would have been a rubber stamp with the “edited” version of events. Not so simple with the true version where I was subjected to a conspiracy to stupefy and commit an indictable offence namely kidnapping…… but they don’t like that version of reality.

    Drug abusing, wife beating mental patient of ten years kills himself sounds so much better when your asking for more money to keep doing the same…… especially when documents are fabricated to create such a false narrative (using the corrupt practice of ‘verballing’), and then those who find it easy to utter with known fraudulent documents to ‘fuking destroy’ anyone who dares question their authority and right to commit such acts of fraud.

    It becomes important for the Coroner to see only what they want him/her to see. That and ensuring that the mental illness of the people complaining is treated, particularly their anosognosia.

    The slandering of people to lawyers by the unlawful release of confidential information particularly vicious…. but also highly effective. Difficult to defend yourself against such gossip and innuendo put to your lawyers behind your back. Particularly when they can obtain a benefit from ensuring your cause of action does not proceed.

    In an ideal world such slander would have no effect, but ……. this is far from an ideal world. What I can say is that the effect of such slandering is apparent on the faces of the people your dealing with, though there is an element of surrealism about it.

    For example I had no idea that the Community Nurse had fabricated a story that my wife had claimed I was a wife beater in his documents (my wife claiming “I said no such thing”, though the Community Nurse needed to fabricate a risk sooooooo. Absolutely poisonous to our marriage) When handed on to the Senior Medical Officer he treated me like his pet dog…. obviously believing the slander/fraud, and I was wondering why I was being treated in such a manner. Normally called conspiracy, when it is done by mental health they call it ‘healthcare’, and for the benefit of the ‘patient’. Which was particularly helpful when they were trying to conceal these documents from the victim, using the claim it wasn’t good for me to know I was being ‘spiked’ and falsely labelled an “Outpatient” to bypass the protections of the law.

  • Hi Larry, you write;

    “The fact remains that the depth of the reaction often is not consistent with the depth of the triggering event. Most people can bounce back from “depressing” events, even including the death of a spouse, parent, or sibling. There must be some other variable at work.”

    Why MUST there be some other variable at work? Why might it not be a compounding of events, which then cause the observable (over) reaction? We don’t see the build up to an earthquake, but some people surely see the effects of that accumulation. And if I were thinking along the lines of psychiatry, I might even attribute the earthquake to me dropping a cup of tea or some such unrelated event.

    Quite fascinated by this “ex juvatibus fallacy” presented in the article.

    I wonder what Dr Moncrieff thinks about the claim that the use of electricity can ‘shock’ the brains chemicals back to their normal functioning. Not unlike the ‘treatment’ our economies might require given the way things are going (see Naomi Klein The Shock Doctrine).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3B5qt6gsxY&t=10s

    “Milton Friedman understood the utility of a crisis. Only a crisis, actual or perceived, produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions taken depend on the ideas that are laying around.”

  • If ‘schizophrenia’ is caused by genetics, and the National Socialist’s ‘eradicated’ many of the faulty gene pool, how come there were more people suffering from what is labelled schizophrenia after the war?

    I must say, it was interesting seeing how the State government where I live was attempting to introduce forced sterilisations without parental consent. And it couldn’t be done on the basis of race, that needed to be the outcome, not the justification. Simple math tells us that aboriginals are the people who have kids with Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Syndrome, so it’s a pure coincidence it’s their kids we’re going to steralise. The idea of an epidemiologist (looking at the cost to the public purse) and NOT a psychiatrist.

    Also, the very clever use of the work of Solomon Asch on conformity when having the media tell us that 87% of the population agrees with euthanasia…… never presenting the data. leaving people thinking that they were in the minority when it came to the issue. You do support the National Socialists don’t you? The motto of “Safe and Strong” a rally cry from the ‘Party’ during the election.

    The problem being that such ‘joint enterprise’ (I think in the US the term is RICO) in the euthanasing of ‘life unworthy of living’ created the very same problem faced by the National Socialist’s when Josef Hartinger did a report into the early deaths at Dachau. The United Nations stating that the State IS responsible for crimes committed by it’s public officers a real issue if they are turning a blind eye, and covering up human rights abuses. (one police officer telling me “it might be best I don’t know about that” when I explained the attempt to ‘outcome’ me in an E.D. to conceal misconduct by his fellow officers)

    All it would take would be one doctor to ‘confess’ and ….. thanks Dr Lancee. Now look at the problems you’ve caused. Hence the need to bulldoze through the legislation, and provide a ‘Nuremburg defense’ (it’s the law) for our politicians, and make it look like the public had got something for free (like the “added protections” of the Mental Hygiene Act. Just don’t tell them who it is that is being protected…… ie the Shock Docs).

    I assume that in the US the hospital administrators don’t act like Mafia Godfathers, threatening peoples families and arranging little accidents for the good of the community (need to define this in such a way as to make it a small group of people, as opposed to the whole electorate). Concealing police and public sector misconduct with the use of the mental health system. Police doing arbitrary referrals of any inconvenient truths with ‘verbals’ (Come stick a needle in this one for us, he’s “hallucinating” thinking were going to report our colleagues to the corruption watchdog….. thanks. He’s what?………… “who else has seen the documents?”. We’re going to need a scapegoat.)

  • Catherine’s story brought me to tears.

    “We are cataloging the harms done by those we trusted to help her: piecing together, document by document, what happened to Catherine—and to us!—as we struggled to advocate for her.”

    I am unsure of the ‘process’ in the US, but in Australia, such documentation is “edited” before being provided to FOI applicants (including lawyers with a right to examine unredacted documents to protect human rights).

    So for example in my situation the hospital ‘redacted’ the fact that I was not a ‘patient’ and that their request for police assistance to unlawfully detain me was actually a crime (under our Criminal Code as a protection from arbitrary detentions), and that I had been ‘spiked’ with a date rape drug TWICE before being subjected to hours of interrogations.

    The “edited” documentation (provided to my legal representative) made me into a 10 year “Outpatient” of this hospital, and the drugs I had been ‘spiked’ with were now my “Regular Medications” (which my doctor who I am not allowed to know his name prescribed ten hours before he even knew of my existence).

    Trying to unravel such acts of fraud can take a significant amount of time and effort. Particularly when the ‘legal representatives’ will accept such “editing”, write a complaint and then forge the response from the authority they claim to have complained to. In my instance the complaint was to the Chief Psychiatrist, and then forged a letter of response, handing the poison pen letter to me before throwing me under a bus.

    Not before checking if I still had the documents proving what I am saying of course. Wouldn’t want it known that the Mental Health Law Centre was conspiring with the State to conceal human rights abuses by the documents still being available. Thus ensuring that the mandatory reporting of public sector misconduct by police and mental health goes unreported……

    So just a warning that once the legal narrative has been “edited” people tend to find themselves chasing their own tail, and in some instances being subjected to some vicious gaslighting with ‘designs’. “No oppression so heavy or lasting as that which is inflicted by the perversion and exorbitance of legal authority” Addison. The psychological abuses not limited by any Conventions, and can result in you being ‘treated’ against your will for the ‘illness’ deliberately induced by the abuse.

    My complaint to the Operations Manager of the hospital, and pointing out that she had a duty under our laws to report these matters to the corruption watchdog, met with threats to ‘fuking destroy’ me and my family. I was shocked the amount of support she received in that regard. Though perfectly understandable now I realise that she would have been reporting the misconduct of police…. and snitches get stiches. Better to silence the victim using their position of trust, by making my complaint a symptom of my illness (conceal the ‘spiking’ with benzos and call the claim that it had been done a paranoid delusion. I’m sure that as a psychologist Mr Stence you can see how that might work).

    “they chose to ignore personalized information that should have guided their treatment and they appeared oblivious to the trauma they were causing our daughter. We believe that it would be virtually impossible for a psychiatrist to acknowledge causing any harm because it would simply cause them too much cognitive and moral dissonance.”

    How right you are with this statement, and in fact many do not realise how far they will go to ensure their criminal negligence goes unreported (the use of the ‘good faith defense’ a common method to manipulate outcomes). Lawyers feeding information back to the hospital as to what they needed to retrieve before moving forward with a complaint which would result in a preferred outcome. commonly referred to as attempting to pervert the course of justice.

    Though you are safe as long as you are not in possession of the documented facts. Otherwise expect a visit from Police who will assist in the retrieval of said documents and a letter claiming there is now “insufficient evidence”.

    I wish you well in your attempts to have changes occur, but be aware that the game is rigged. I note that lawyers were more than happy to charge me for telling me how expensive their time was, but unwilling to act on the documented proof which I had slipped through the net with (“I thought you were mad, but you’ve got the proof” …….. byeeeeee), preferring instead to report to those who had already dug themselves deep into a criminal hole, and who were quite prepared to ensure that the complainant was subjected to an ‘unintended negative outcome’ while they looked the other way.

    And God sends upon them a great delusion huh? 2 Thessalonians. No one is watching?

  • Without a doubt KateL.

    I realised when it was too late how a rogue psychologist had warned me about the ‘FREE’ counselling service provided by my employer (is anything ever really free? lol). The reprimands he received for not documenting my ‘case’ should have been warning enough……. how was his superior to inform my employer if he wasn’t documenting? And as many are aware, the idea of ‘confidentiality’ is a farce. Who is paying the bill again???

    Any issues, referral from psychologist to ‘friendly’ psychiatrist for the kosh or electricity.

    I suppose many police would ‘resign thier position’ rather than be taken down the dark alley of psychiatry. Note Rivera only slipping through the net because he didn’t attend the appointment, despite this being a sackable offense.

    So while police may be making arbitrary referrals to ‘mental health services’ of citizens who have proof of their corruption ( a telephone call made to mental health about the person “hallucinating” in their station based on zero evidence or no “reasonable grounds” [forget the “Criteria” set out as a legal protection for the community, this is mental health were talking about. Fabrication city] enough to snare the victim in my State), they are by no means exempt from finding themselves on the wrong end of ‘treatments’.

    Most police would know the point at which to ‘bail out’, ….. which can be advantageous to a well placed psychologist/psychiatrist team. Think your walking away with your pension? Think again.

  • “the current DSM committee decided they did not want to put Humpty-Dumpty back together”

    They can’t, not now that all the Kings horses and all the Kings men have been eating scrambled eggs for years. Shoving that egg head off that wall was the best thing that could have happened ….. for some anyway lol

    Aside; I note that Rich Rivera of West NY PD was aware of the uses of psychiatry for police officers who complain about corruption. See Betraying the Badge episode 1 @ 30 minutes onwards. But what choice does one have when your employer orders you to attend such an ‘assessment’? Only to be ‘mugged’ on the way out the door by a State sanctioned predator aware that you have a wallet full of money.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVBNRCorPXk

    “Fail to get an answer, Satan’s crossed the wire.
    By some strong delusion, or some hearts desire,
    Take away obstruction, God is on the throne,
    then you get your answer through the Royal Telephone.”

    I’d really like to put this piece of music to the video of Police stomping the head of a ‘mental patient’ who sought ‘help’.

    Seems that Satan might have been given a warrant to ‘listen in’ on the ‘confessional’.

    The release of your ‘personal and confidential’ information won’t be immediately apparent to you, but it will when the ‘poison’ starts to take effect. Oldest trick in the Book? Adams apple, the exploitation of trust by a snake. My most personal and traumatic experiences told to a social worker (in good faith) included in the “edited” documents released to the public after I made a legitimate complaint about serious misconduct by a hospital.

    Anything you tell these people will come back to haunt you should they ever feel a need to ‘coerce’ you into ‘consenting’ to whatever it is they wish. The ‘laws’ protecting your confidentiality are never used to prosecute anyone who does release your information. “Trust in haste, regret at leisure”.

  • Hi Richard,

    glad you said this;

    “In fact we are now in real danger of losing what little democracy actually exists in the U.S., and descending into full blown fascism.”

    Reading the comments about ‘capitalism’ I can’t help but feel that people are failing to connect the dots on our regression into a state of fascism. Where ‘regulatory capture’ is the means of opening up ‘markets’ for these ‘products’ that are being sold under the disguise of ‘medicine’. Not unlike the way that Zyklon B, a delousing agent with some serious side effects, was used by the National Socialist’s in Germany.

    I know in my State (and possibly as a direct result of my personal experience) the Police are looking more like the Shutzstaffel every day.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg

    This reminiscent of the way that those who were stigmatised by the NSDP were ‘treated’.

    I am now increasingly aware of why I found myself nearly ‘outcomed’ in an Emergency Dept for daring to complain about the misconduct of public officers who have been given virtual carte blanche to resolve any complaints via the use of the Mental Health Act (and the newly introduced Euthanasia Act). This is precisely what one would expect in a fascist State.

    Private clinic uses the resources of the State (ie Police snatch them from their beds with no “reasonable grounds” and deliver them to ‘hospitals’ for ‘treatments’ including chemical kosh and electricity) to have someone ‘treated’ against their will? Private company has employees who are potential whistleblowers referred to Private clinics for ‘assessment’? And the ‘marriage’ of Police and Mental Health ‘professionals’ providing ample opportunity for people to be ‘coercively interrogated’ and the traumatised victim then labelled for the ‘treatment’ they have received. The documents being “edited” to ensure that legal representatives can not effectively represent, and fraud and slander completing the “fuking destruction” of the victims.

    I Never thought I’d see the day where a hospital Operations Manager was speaking like she was Al Capone….. but, there you have it. That’s how open and brazen they are about who they think they are in my State.

    What do you think about this gradual regression into a state of fascism? I mean it obviously has to occur, given the fact that the people who represent us, must recognise the position they find themselves in where they can turn the screws and enrich themselves with their unrestrained corruption? It used to be that politicians would be people of honor who spent years in office and did great things. These days it’s a get in and do your best to grab as much as you can before your forced to ‘resign your position’ and take everything you have basically stolen with you. The claim that we can’t start holding public officers accountable because no one would do the job the justification for not acting and putting these people in prison.

    And I have said before, this is Australia, not the U.S. We bug the offices of third world nations (calling them our ‘friends’) under the guise of proving them ‘humanitarian aid’, to gain an advantage over them in negotiations about Oil and Gas, and lock the whislteblowers up if they tell the public. Jobs for the politicians at the Oil and Gas company when they leave the government? Looks a lot like Hermann Goering walking through the collections of art seized by the Shutzstaffel and selecting pieces for his own home lol. Not that they ever see it that way.

    I just don’t see a ‘leader’ on the horizon who would be prepared to take back from these corporations what they have stolen from us by corrupting our political system. But then did anyone really see the storming of the Bastille as anything more than another riot that needed to be put down? “Let them eat cake” not a lot of good to a mob that wants blood, and who have nothing to lose but the misery they find themselves living in.

    Anyway, i’d be interested in your thoughts about the ‘stage of fascism’ (as opposed to the stage of capitalism/socilaism) the world now finds itself in.

    Also, what do you think of the situation with ‘journalism’? Antonio Gramsci was ‘dealt with’ by a fascist. Are we about to see the removal of the ability to practice ‘journalism’ (or at least the few who are actually left that are not agents of propaganda. I must look back at the footage of the way the Warsaw Ghettos were presented as holiday camps by the ‘media’. The ‘magic bullet’ presented as the way to ‘utopia’ via our media these days. Breakthrough in mental health…. if this program has caused you any concerns call Lifeline…… Don’t suspect a friend, report them.)

  • Sorry to hear this jvalusek.

    I spoke for some time to a woman whose daughter had committed suicide right in front of her after waving goodbye. Not an easy conversation to have, and I would have much preferred to have spoken to her legal representative about the hospital they had just left before she stepped into traffic. mainly the “editing” of legal narrative before providing documents to lawyers being my main concern. (the enabling of the use of electricity on young girls by the government a particular concern of mine, and the ability of a child to ‘consent’ to such ‘treatments’ particularly worrying)

    I admire your comments regarding the effect that ‘intervention’ has on the psyche of people, and in fact I have been subjected to years of psychological abuse (gaslighting) as a direct result of attempting to access the protection of the law. Told by an Operations Manager after informing her of her mandatory duty to report suspected misconduct that they (the State) would “fuking destroy” me and my family. Your decision to not speak to your congressperson may be the best decision you have ever made. I know my approach to a Member of Parliament resulted in me being told he needed to work with police (as opposed to reporting misconduct and corruption) and thus against the public who elected him

    I read a quote from a James Addison a few days ago that struck a chord with me;

    “No oppression is so heavy or lasting as that which is inflicted by the perversion and exorbitance of legal authority”

    The use of police as thugs for ‘medical practitioners’ no doubt does way more harm than any of the good they claim (try and separate out the issue of consent to ‘treatments’ when the consequence of refusing is met with the type of police thuggery I have posted below. Are you really going to refuse to have Electric Shock Treatments under such ‘coercive practices’? And as pointed out by Viktor Frankl, under such conditions does suicide not become a serious choice to be made? (see Bruce Levines article on Indian Farmers I think)

    Not a lot of people actually examine what they define as being a success. I once asked a psychiatrist to walk the halls of the hospital with me and examine his success, those people wandering the halls dribbling from the mouth, and with virtually no hope of ever escaping left are his successes? And he can’t see why others might point out his failures? Lucky for him he can silence any complaints with his ‘treatments’ and some document “editing”.

    The ‘good faith’ defense easily “edited” to ensure the proof of ‘bad faith’ is not possible. ie take the request for the use of known torture methods out of the documents, remove the facts surrounding the ‘spiking’ and slander the victim as a nutjob. Making claims you’ve been ‘spiked’ without the documents a great way of using the stigma of ‘mental illness’ against the victims. You know, ‘the “edited” version of reality. And the ease with which the Operations Manager knew she was authorised to fuking destroy anyone who had a complaint about human rights abuses speaks for itself.

  • “Most of the times on private property, a person can be told to leave and without justification. If they don’t leave, then police can remove them. And they could be charged with a crime.”

    Except when police are assisting the people trespassing, and refuse to perform their duty…. nay in fact beat the person requesting that their rights be observed.

    Of course Police in that situation had been lied to by the Community Nurse and his ‘crew’ who were trespassing. He told them I was his “Outpatient” which meant that they could then do his bidding and enable his trespass into my home. Otherwise my demand that they “Get out of my home” might have been acted upon by police, instead of him nodding to them to give me a taste of the tazer for trying to exercise my right.

    The “potential for damage to reputation and meaningful relationships” requiring such excessive powers to be provided to these corrupt public officers. Seemed to me that dragging me out of my bed and throwing me in the back of a Police van parked on my mother and father in laws front garden (while they watched) was a way of damaging my reputation and meaningful relationships, to ensure that my “potential” didn’t actuate.

    Still, this is Australia where the “editing” of legal narratives by the State ensures a ‘good standing’ as far as human rights abuses go. Where police can say Muslims are drunks to enable the boot to ensure their compliance. Who cares what lies need to be sworn too? In a State where there is no avenue for complaint. Where your ‘legal representative’ is nothing more than an informant to ensure that such matters are concealed from public view. many not having the stomach for what needs to be done to protect the corrupt.

  • I think that this ‘research’ has missed a significant point, that of the use of police as thugs.

    My documents clearly show that the police were called to CAUSE an “acute stress reaction” given that I had refused to speak to A psychologist (not MY psychologist) when requested by my wife.

    “Under the Ontario Mental Health Act, doctors who believe a student is at risk of harming themselves must complete a “Form 1 Application by Physician for Psychiatric Assessment” to mandate the student’s transfer to a hospital emergency room for a psychiatric evaluation.”

    And I would assume that as a protection to citizens that there would be a ‘time limit’ placed on these physicians as to when they can make such referrals. In my State it is 48 hours of personally examining the person being referred. Unless of course a doctor who examined you at school, now finds someone willing to pay them to refer you as a 40 year old?

    So a Community Nurse who needs someone to open their mouth so he/she can put words into it (and complete the statutory declaration with their “reasonable grounds” verballed), and who has arranged for their ‘victim’ (sometimes called their “outpatient” before they leave the hospital to detain them) can be forced into speaking by police at the point of a weapon, or the heel of a boot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=3s

    See the “concerning aspects” of this mental health ‘referral’ which would no doubt be quite a useful tool to a mental health professional finding it difficult to have their potential patient speak to them (due to the known corrupt practices of ‘verballing’ they tend to use).

    Now imagine this being able to be used against people who have been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and who were NOT ‘patients’ but who the Community Nurse wanted to be? he calls Police and tells them he needs ‘assistance’ with his knife wielding/drug abusing “Outpatient” (the knife and the drugs planted after the target has collapsed from the ‘spiking’ with benzos. Creates the appearance of a Police referral for his colleagues, when what is actually occurring is torture and kidnapping…. but they have methods of ensuring you are denied access to the protection of the law).

    And note that the man who had his head stomped and run over by police would now be more than willing to speak to anyone putting questions to him. The haze of coming out of the induced coma no doubt a time when he would be a little more willing to confess.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOoRiI8HVU&t=106s

    Or this one who refused to speak to his ‘concerned doctor’, and who chose to try and withdraw from the addictive drugs he had been prescribed without the help of his ‘pusher’. Not too many ‘dealers’ can have someone beaten and pepper sprayed for not taking their ‘medicine’.

    The two DO NOTS of “acute stress reaction”

    DO NOT force the person to talk.

    DO NOT administer benzodiazepines.

    ‘Spike’ them with benzos, and then have police ‘detain’ (ie cause an ‘acute stress reaction’) with a little ‘coercive treatment’ and then conceal the ‘spiking’ and call it an illness. The physical assault concealed and the use of psychological torture (gaslighting) virtually never pursued. Easier to label the complainant nutjob and ‘treat’ them with a chemical kosh.

    We have ways of making you talk.

    These researchers should wake up to the possible intent of such ‘treatment’ by police. They are being used as thugs by mental health services KNOWING the effect it has on their intended victims. Torture concealed under the “inherent in or incidental to lawful sanction” clause in the Convention.

  • I think there is something to be said by the people who found themselves wrongly convicted of crimes.

    Once the fraud takes effect, others seem more than willing to use that fraud (despite knowing it is fraud) to utter with and ensure the outcome they would prefer.

    In my instance, the ‘spiking’ with date rape drugs became the ‘symptoms’ of my ‘illness’ (all documented) which, according to the fraud …. I mean Senior Medical Officer, required the forced administration of the drug I had been ‘spiked’ with (causing the symptoms he had described) AND a ‘chemical kosh’ to ensure I didn’t get the right to speak. Still, he was concealing crimes for the Police by this time and no doubt receiving some preferential treatment in return.

    Mind you, I note that Australia is very different to other places, where attempting to report corrupt public officers (trying to avoid the mandatory reporting clause of the corruption watchdog) is not justification for an unintended negative outcome in an Emergency Dept. Being able to ‘treat’ allegations of torture, much better than actually allowing the Articles of the Convention to take their course. And I mean who would dare say anything in such an environment? Where your ‘legal representative’ will provide material assistance to ensure the silence of the victim……. for an increase in State funding.

    I note the increase in funding to our “Community Legal Centres” who are ‘sponsored’ by Police. This ‘access to the law’ program, nothing more than a method of exploiting the trust placed in these people, with little if any ‘oversight’. The benefits for the State with such a ‘warning system’ enormous when it comes to ensuring the complaints process is thwarted before it even gets underway. Half a million nothing compared to the money they save by outcoming people with legitimate complaints about human rights abuses.

    And you can imagine how the Police ‘sponsorship’ of these law centres conflict of interest is handled (if not, I can explain how they make written complaints and then forge and utter with responses purportedly from ‘authorities’ such as the Chief Psychiatrist). Your confidentiality breached and your going to do what about it nutjob? s. 195 Police referral for mental health treatment please. Complaint marked “processed”, “expedited” or “deleted”.

    One needs to recognise how this network of informants is operating (see for example the use of Nicola Gobbo as a Police informant). Ensuring that matters do not proceed to the relevant authorities critical in perverting the course of justice.

    Seems funny that our journalists express disgust that Bashar al Assad is doing the same thing in Syria. But then again, after the way that Jamal Kashoggi got ‘treated’ is it any surprise they say nothing about ‘our’ little indiscretions?

  • I think the ‘penny just dropped’ for me.

    Apart from being a great distraction for the main event…….this almost looks like the Church is directing people into the hands of ‘mental health services’ and by proxy drug companies. The mass drugging of children with ‘anxiety disorders’ and ‘depression’ can easily be justified f the ‘mental illness’ was induced by the anxious parents (who also need drugging because of their fear of their children having a mental illness. Hyperalertness syndrome).

    But more importantly for me is that I believe that the introduction of an “Ellis Defense” into our Mental Health Act has enabled the “explosion” of the use of Electric Shock Treatments on children. This ‘legal reform’ (presented to the community as being an “added protection” without any further comment as to WHO was being protected) will no doubt be exposed in time…. though a little too late for those who are damaged and who die as a result.

    I’d like to see the data on the amount of ‘shock Docs’ who were heading our way once they realised their was an ‘enabling’ act going on.

    And as far as the ‘research’ mentioned above, I’d also be skeptical of a Cook Book by Jeffrey Dahmer as a means to make amends for his “character flaw”. Especially when you consider how the Ellis defense came into being, to ensure that those who they knew had been abused were denied access to compensation. Doctors concerned they will be sued for ECTing children? What do they do? The heart exposed by their actions.

  • ‘Research’ just released

    “Smacked Children twice as likely to develop mental illness”

    “Six in ten parents still smack their children, according to a new study from the Australian Catholic University.

    The ACU study found that 61% of Australians aged 16-24 have received corporal punishment from parental figures four or more times.

    Further, it revealed that children who are smacked repeatedly by their parents are almost twice as likely to develop anxiety and depression.

    The research, once fully released, could influence law reform surrounding the protection of children.”

    I got to thinking a little about this. This from such an organisation which resisted ‘law reform’ regarding some of the treatment of children in the institutions they were running?

    Move the line to smacking children three times and they could include more kids for labels and drugs I suppose?

    I wonder if I am missing something about this ‘research’ though?

    I guess what stands out for me most is the use of a ‘fear narrative’ by the ‘researchers’. If you beat your kids, then they will need to be labelled and drugged. Which will no doubt have a greater effect on the immigrant community.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwbc_v1xBAU

    Mother blaming has become ‘parent blaming’? From an organisation that claimed that children being raped by their clergy was a “character flaw” and not a criminal offence? And I guess it exposes where the people who they allowed to be abused ended up? That is, labelled with mental illnesses and silenced by the ‘treatments’

    Forgive my skepticism.