I was just curious whether the behavior may have lead to forced treatment.
No ill intent on my part.
@EricCoates
You never got held down and sedated?
Sadly, 99.9% of the commentators had similar (expected) disgusted reactions to the article.
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Lately, there seems to be a proactive PR media push for NAMI-like awareness for “mental illness”, from claiming 1 in 5 people will eventually be mentally ill in their lifetimes … to celebrities “coming out” and claiming their “mental illness.” This month: Dwayne Johnson. Today: Mariah Carey.
…
America is digging its own grave. And no one’s the wiser.
I feel DBS is a complicated situation.
My mom has Parkinsons. Shortly before she was diagnosed with Parkinsons, she was sent to p-doc for what my aunts believed was depression. Of course, my mom was prescribed p-meds.
Those p-meds, I believe, induced delusional beliefs which weren’t there before she was on p-meds. P-doc had to “adjust” the p-meds before she “stabilized.”
Ten years later, my mom got DBS. She didn’t behave like the patients described in this article — I do believe that adjustments on p-meds might have played a part in correcting the “chemical imbalance” brought on by DBS–
–but she did become less of a person. Her emotions and personality were blunted. She became childlike and had no capacity to enjoy life or get upset. She’s practically a ghost.
Her neurologist said that DBS saved millions of dollars in healthcare costs.
But my mom is nothing but a shell of a person.
After reading this MIA article here yesterday, I went to Twitter to look for any buzz.
I saw this Post-Gazette.com article which reports that Rep. Tim Murphy denounced Trump’s pick of Katz.
I’ve come across some psychiatrists who believe Lyme disease could be a “root cause” to schizophrenia.
Not to insult this article (which I much appreciate reading), but I don’t believe Lyme disease is “strictly underlying cause” for some narrow definition of “schizophrenia.”
I theorize that ER chemical restraints (Ativan 2mg + Haldol 10mg + Benadryl 50mg) is high enough to contribute severe withdrawal and returning patients.
Imagine a violently drunken man gets taken by legal authorities into ER and then gets sedated by chemical restraints. I bet there’s a likelihood that same man will eventually end up in psych ward or homeless and crazy, because he’s been “poisoned” by that one dose of chemical restraint.
So I got an email from change.org in regards to Murphy’s bill.
But scientific academia and medicine should seriously look into this.
If I remember correctly, 2012 Aurora shooter Holmes had been medicated without professional medical supervision.
Also, the Germanwings crash, the co-pilot went through 7 doctors a month before the mass death. Imagine the number of medication he might’ve been through.
Everyone seems to think that these people are crazy, our family and friends may think we are crazy… but the truth is, we’ve been on p-meds all along… Why do they still stigmatize us?
I think that describes every psychiatrist you’d meet.
It seemed to me that given Cobain’s sensitive nature and his harrowing experiences, he probably had a severe case of leaky gut.
IMHO, I think a lot of mental health practitioners overlook the fact that once someone has been on p-meds they are more or less disabled after a short period of time.
Furthermore, once on meds and then later on or off the meds, patients continue to be disabled at different ends of the spectrum.
In any case, I think this article fails to consider that there is not really a panacea to p-med withdrawal, except for “maintenance”/constantly “adjusting” lifestyle to p-med withdrawal in an effort to choose an alternative toward health and healing as well as taking responsibility for themselves and their own life.
Of course, this alternative choice for p-med withdrawal comes at a financial cost and with a risk to idiosyncratic delicacy of one’s overall health and well-being. In other words, mental health recovery is a life-long journey, difficult with or without medication. “With or without medication?” you say… And the argument goes on and on…
NYT columnist Joe Nocera supports E. Fuller Torrey. Nocera has one article, in which he solely relies on Torrey’s “authority and expertise.”
On a different note, I believe it has been mentioned by at least one news outlet that Jared Loughner has his own history of traumatic brain injury, in which he was jumped by a several people and ended up in the hospital. … I’m pretty sure I saw that info it on the news, along with interviews with his peers from high school talking about him being a quiet, nice person and saxonphonist (and everything else to being a pothead and animal sadist) … It’s just strange how some small bits of fact(?) can be swept under the carpet.
Cool Hand Luke.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.
I’m not proving who had it worse.
I was just curious whether the behavior may have lead to forced treatment.
No ill intent on my part.
@EricCoates
You never got held down and sedated?
Sadly, 99.9% of the commentators had similar (expected) disgusted reactions to the article.
…
Lately, there seems to be a proactive PR media push for NAMI-like awareness for “mental illness”, from claiming 1 in 5 people will eventually be mentally ill in their lifetimes … to celebrities “coming out” and claiming their “mental illness.” This month: Dwayne Johnson. Today: Mariah Carey.
…
America is digging its own grave. And no one’s the wiser.
I feel DBS is a complicated situation.
My mom has Parkinsons. Shortly before she was diagnosed with Parkinsons, she was sent to p-doc for what my aunts believed was depression. Of course, my mom was prescribed p-meds.
Those p-meds, I believe, induced delusional beliefs which weren’t there before she was on p-meds. P-doc had to “adjust” the p-meds before she “stabilized.”
Ten years later, my mom got DBS. She didn’t behave like the patients described in this article — I do believe that adjustments on p-meds might have played a part in correcting the “chemical imbalance” brought on by DBS–
–but she did become less of a person. Her emotions and personality were blunted. She became childlike and had no capacity to enjoy life or get upset. She’s practically a ghost.
Her neurologist said that DBS saved millions of dollars in healthcare costs.
But my mom is nothing but a shell of a person.
After reading this MIA article here yesterday, I went to Twitter to look for any buzz.
I saw this Post-Gazette.com article which reports that Rep. Tim Murphy denounced Trump’s pick of Katz.
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2017/04/24/Tim-Murphy-mental-health-Trump-Elinore-McCance-Katz-SAMHSA-secretary/stories/201704250068
That makes things a bit confusing for me.
I’ve come across some psychiatrists who believe Lyme disease could be a “root cause” to schizophrenia.
Not to insult this article (which I much appreciate reading), but I don’t believe Lyme disease is “strictly underlying cause” for some narrow definition of “schizophrenia.”
https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/683681888687538177
“I would like 2016 to be the year when people remembered that science is a method of investigation,and NOT a belief system” – John Cleese, 3 Jan 2016
Even the guy from Monty Python has more sense than most scientists who want to prove what they want to find.
Well, Rep. Murphy has been listed as one of the most corrupted politicians by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, several years ago.
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt/entry/most-corrupt-2008
I theorize that ER chemical restraints (Ativan 2mg + Haldol 10mg + Benadryl 50mg) is high enough to contribute severe withdrawal and returning patients.
Imagine a violently drunken man gets taken by legal authorities into ER and then gets sedated by chemical restraints. I bet there’s a likelihood that same man will eventually end up in psych ward or homeless and crazy, because he’s been “poisoned” by that one dose of chemical restraint.
So I got an email from change.org in regards to Murphy’s bill.
What does this all mean? –> http://realmhchange.org/resources/comparison-of-house-and-senate-bills/
I know I’m a bit late to this.
But scientific academia and medicine should seriously look into this.
If I remember correctly, 2012 Aurora shooter Holmes had been medicated without professional medical supervision.
Also, the Germanwings crash, the co-pilot went through 7 doctors a month before the mass death. Imagine the number of medication he might’ve been through.
Everyone seems to think that these people are crazy, our family and friends may think we are crazy… but the truth is, we’ve been on p-meds all along… Why do they still stigmatize us?
I think that describes every psychiatrist you’d meet.
It seemed to me that given Cobain’s sensitive nature and his harrowing experiences, he probably had a severe case of leaky gut.
IMHO, I think a lot of mental health practitioners overlook the fact that once someone has been on p-meds they are more or less disabled after a short period of time.
Furthermore, once on meds and then later on or off the meds, patients continue to be disabled at different ends of the spectrum.
In any case, I think this article fails to consider that there is not really a panacea to p-med withdrawal, except for “maintenance”/constantly “adjusting” lifestyle to p-med withdrawal in an effort to choose an alternative toward health and healing as well as taking responsibility for themselves and their own life.
Of course, this alternative choice for p-med withdrawal comes at a financial cost and with a risk to idiosyncratic delicacy of one’s overall health and well-being. In other words, mental health recovery is a life-long journey, difficult with or without medication. “With or without medication?” you say… And the argument goes on and on…
NYT columnist Joe Nocera supports E. Fuller Torrey. Nocera has one article, in which he solely relies on Torrey’s “authority and expertise.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/opinion/nocera-guns-and-mental-illness.html
…
On a different note, I believe it has been mentioned by at least one news outlet that Jared Loughner has his own history of traumatic brain injury, in which he was jumped by a several people and ended up in the hospital. … I’m pretty sure I saw that info it on the news, along with interviews with his peers from high school talking about him being a quiet, nice person and saxonphonist (and everything else to being a pothead and animal sadist) … It’s just strange how some small bits of fact(?) can be swept under the carpet.