Sunday, December 15, 2019

Comments by MLuster

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  • I should add that I don’t agree with everything in the article. But in my “psychotic episodes” I always did things that entailed suffering, so this interested me for that reason. I don’t know if we have a collective conscious or if humans just strongly believe in suffering and my experiences reflected that. I don’t know. Just wanted to share since I was so glad someone referred to it (in encouraging me to take medicine, strangely) so I could read the whole thing. Feel free to find me on Facebook, by the way. I’m Marla Luster.

  • Ha. Honestly he did seem kind of like he was seeking to advertise his products, but it was interesting what he was saying about the brain being composed of matter like any other object, so that it couldn’t be conscious. But then again, I very vaguely remember someone saying that even matter has some energy to it. I guess what I was looking to know was, what is consciousness(?), after I read what JonnyLucid said. Some say consciousness is what we and everything else here are and that we are all one. (Eckart Tolle says so, for example.)

    I actually wanted to share something else here that I am reading just now that relates to schizophrenia, consciousness and shamanism. I wish there was someplace I could share more stuff with others with mental illness. It’s so interesting to learn more about what could be happening.
    Here’s the link: http://www.mindspring.com/~berks-healing/campbell-schiz.pdf

  • I found this: http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/one-page-proof-that-attributing-consciousness-to-the-brain-is-absurd/

    Very interesting. Glad I saw your comment. I am reading a book called A Course in Miracles and it says that we are not the body, so obviously the brain would not be consciousness. I never made this connection though. Awesome. Thanks. So obviously, the issue wouldn’t be with the brain. Wow. So much for all the science. It’s so trusted in this culture. I must admit, I was unconsciously trusting science, too. It’s meaningless, contradictory (like people interpretations of the Bible throughout history. Ha.

  • What do you think is the seat of consciousness? I feel like you’re saying something I want to hear but I don’t fully understand. I think you’re saying (partly) that we don’t look to life’s experiences as the cause for mental illness because the brain is seen as the “seat of consciousness,” the cause of so-called mental illness. I don’t see mental illness as really an illness just a response to living in a conflicted world. See the lyrics of the song, I Find It Hard To Say by Lauryn Hill. That partly explains the issue I see. The contradictions we face and are supposed to accept. I am very interested in consciousness and feel like increased consciousness is the purpose of mental illness.

  • I don’t know what to “do” exactly, but from my experience with schizophrenia, I think it adds to the frustration when people treat me like I am crazy and don’t try to understand me. I felt dumbfounded at times by this. Why not try to understand the person, not see them as so different?

    All people suffer from very similar feelings (feeling less than). Some people can’t grin and bear it, some people can’t lose awareness of these feelings. I think these people are the so-called mentally ill.

    Mistrust is a big part of schizophrenia and I think maybe it’s time someone started to mistrust the ways of life that have obviously brought us to view others as so different. Seeing others as different is probably at the root of every human travesty in the history of man AND human suffering. I think mental illness is a response to the human condition, just like other forms of evolution have been responses (as far as I know).

    If people in Japan suffer from the radiation, why is it so unbelievable that we would also suffer? What makes us so different? Seeing others suffer is bothersome. Some people can go on and not be bothered by or aware of the implications. Some people more acutely sense that some people suffering means it’s just as likely that they somehow deserve to suffer, too.

    The illusion is that some people can suffer while others thrive–our typical way of life depends on that illusion. Some (“unfortunate”?) people sense the imbalance of that illusion and it haunts them until they awaken and see another reality, one that no one else around them seems to offer. That reality is awakening, consciousness and that is what “mentally ill” people need, seek. They are unable to endure unconsciousness, the way of the world, any longer. This is actually a good thing.

  • the term schizophrenic doesn’t really bother me anymore because I (most of the time) feel unashamed of my experience; I’m starting to see that it’s a good thing, a response to a mindset that results in unhappiness and EXTREME restriction. That’s how I felt before schizophrenia, that mindset IS what I’m recovering from, not the voices (which are just meant to call attention to a sick mindset, they have said, “Bamboozled,” “Let go,” etc.).

    At first I felt the term “anti-authoritarian” was just one that is not a part of everyday vocab, but I think it makes sense here and I like the definition you used in the comment, Dr. Levine. Writing that can be understood by others is a good thing.

  • I replied because you sound like me. This comment sounds anti-authoritarian. Maybe it’s good for people who are looked down up by society to be anti-authoritarian. I feel schizophrenia helped me take a stand as an “anti-authoritarian.” I feel it’s what I really am inside. Before schizophrenia I was accepting a lowly place, I thought I didn’t matter. Schizophrenia shows me see how oppressive society is in labeling people as “bad” or less than, as it does today and it’s always done and perhaps always will do if people think they can “win” by not being the person labeled as “crazy” or (too) black or poor or whatever. Just as during slavery, society needs people to be “bad,” poor, etc. so others will have something to work toward: not being bad, (too) black, crazy, etc. I think this is why anti-authoritarian “schizophrenics” do better. It’s because everyone should be anti-authoritarian. People can choose to be less than as society says they are or they can choose to be the author (or “authoritarian”) of their own existence. They can choose to define themselves, their own lives, instead of letting society and others tell them what to think about themselves and what to think about EVERYTHING under the sun, which is what society does. It IS insane (insane = the impossible accepted as possible) for something outside you to interpret everything you feel, see, think as “good” or “bad” or “crazy,” as if it is you. Schizophrenia is meant to lead you to a place of authority that you deny when you let society define everything for you as if you don’t exist. Schizophrenia is a response to this oppression, a pull to sanity, a pull to CONSCIOUSNESS (consciousness =to be aware that you are, that you exist). That’s why people who are anti-authoritarian do better. To be your own author is to be sane, to be in line with what is already true: You decide whether to lead or to follow. You are in charge. Either you know it and are sane (anti-authoritarian/your own author) or you don’t and are insane (oppressed).