Saturday, December 3, 2022

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  • I enjoyed reading about your experiences, having gone through withdrawal as well. My withdrawal from nicotine and cocaine were a cake walk compared to this poison. I will never consent to taking any psychiatric med ever again. They debilitated me for decades and then years after as I weened myself from them.
    It also makes no sense that these drugs would not cause dependence and lasting changes after they are stopped. Basic human biology refutes what the “professionals” dismiss in their arguments. But then, their is no chemical imbalance that could ever be quantified by lab work so it’s all smoke and mirrors. I do have to wonder what is going to happen when the pedestals fall and this group of “experts” have to eat their own words.

  • The last research I read indicated that the “positive outcomes” were short lived (effects began to fade in months after the DBT stopped) and the coping mechanisms, that never really left, regained their place in the tool box over time. “Borderline Personality” itself has come under criticism as a gendered diagnosis (as has anti-social personality disorder) which further weakens it’s credibility. And though there is one accepted way to treat using DBT, it’s unlikely that many populations would be capable of affording, either financially or from a time perspective, the demands. This is not news nor is it significant. It’s a spin on the same old “let’s focus on you and ignore how messed up your environment is” mentality. Any “therapy”or “profession” that fails to improve the environment people have to struggle in with no chance of escape (current society and no upward mobility for those who are at or near the bottom, for example) is doing absolutely nothing for mental health except making sure it continues to be an income stream.

  • I have to agree that the “diagnosis” are meant to stick a lifetime. I am about to challenge mine again and have them removed from my medical records because I have been without “symptoms” and without their drugs for just over 4 years. Consequently, I am working again, and going to college after the shit show of mental health held me fast for 32 years. In my teens I was taking street drugs that did far less damage then these things did with one dose, not to mention decades of dosing. I feel fortunate that I have escaped, but I always feel that I am vulnerable because I already have the labels that sell the products that lead to drug industry and mental hell care profits. This is the after effect of being beaten in that system for so long.

  • In my research, I have found NAMI in my state to be one of the most exploitative organizations of all times. There is one big wig at the top, Sue Abderholden (she earns 6 figure salary I believe), who is the paid mouthpiece, her board of directors and then the legions of “volunteers” who work for nothing. Family members and those with lived experience are being used to push NAMI’s pro “treatment” sales pitch like a legion of lemmings pushing their way to the water. The worst part is that these people are vulnerable and taken advantage of. That and the families having the “support” to abuse the identified “ill” person with NAMI’s blessing.
    I also notice that though NAMI is trying to steer itself away from their dependable pharmaceutical money, they are simply supplementing it with ties to “healthcare” facilities.

  • It seems, in such a conversation, we must not forget the open institutions where drugging kids is encouraged: the education system. Here, it is complete behavioral control and if there is parental involvement, the parents are usually giving permission under duress and with all the wrong information. We’ve ignored this issue for decades and it simply get worse. I now know 6 year old who have been labeled since they were 2 and are now on a slew of pills daily. These kids have horrible home lives or have been abused (because bullying is abuse) in school situations for years. These are reactive and vulnerable kids who are drugged to make things easier for the adults around them.
    There should be no shock in what happens to immigrants when we treat our own cities so poorly.

  • Public education has derailed because it is far too concerned about being a social policing force and creating the very problems it then seeks to “help” with (anxiety, bullying, etc). Quit labeling kids with DSM terms, feed them, let them play, let them create, protect them from bullies (both students and faculty) and quit with the high stakes testing. Then you can begin to look at solutions for problems that will be dramatically reduced.

  • Maybe even more importantly is to address the glaring point that “diagnosis” hasn’t science behind it but much bias and complete subjectivity. I had received the schizophrenic/schizoaffective tag decades ago while experiencing severe flashbacks. The label, as all others in “mental health” are peer accepted after all, so to base any conversation around them is to lend them credibility they do no necessarily deserve.

  • Thanks for this article Eric! It made me giggle and I could actually recall each type of reaction you described. I was the passive kind (lots of trauma here early in life) and I slept continuously the first few days of a stay and then paced, colored and drew away the rest of my imprisonment. I was actually assaulted in state asylums by both fellow inmates (one actually began choking me in a hallway) and staff (trip to the “quiet room” and a 4 man escort down the Haldol hallway) and talk about setting off some triggers and flashbacks! I initially complied to escape. It was literally, to me, survival. Yet, after a while it became “normal” to subject myself to this deprivation of freedom and accept whatever label they threw at me to get some type of shelter and a meal or two a day. It became a breeze to cry wolf and end up inside. They thought they were in charge, but who really was?

  • So psychiatry continues their superiority complex. The same one they play out with those who are entrusted to their care and have been for decades. “We aren’t wrong. It’s the people we “help” that cant seem to comprehend how much this “treatment” is making them better. These people are ill and aren’t able to accurately judge how their bodies are responding. They are probably just in need of a “medication” adjustment.” How many of us haven’t faced this arrogant attitude, regardless of geographical location (though it may have been worded a bit differently)? There isn’t much one can do with people who believe the lies they tell themselves are true. This isn’t terrifying until you understand that these are the self-proclaimed social warriors who can “help” make “mental illness” (which they exclusively define) non-existent with enough “treatment”.

  • Logan, the interesting argument that you might want to answer is why, in an age where anti-depressants are prescribed at record levels, do we have a concurrent record level suicide rate? You really are comparing apples to agent orange if you believe anything you’re saying. The vast majority of people prescribed anti-depressants are not the short term (6, 8 or 12 week) research models. Most are on these drugs for at least 6 months and far too many for decades. You might also want to look at black box warning and the research that initiated it, and the current implications that long term use of anti-depressants are being rapidly tied to fatal cardio vascular events and dementia. If you going to attempt to thump on science, at least get up to speed with what is becoming understood about these drugs instead of harping on past, unreliable conclusions. Also understand that the long tern manipulation or serotonin leads to added prescribing for GI tract irregularities which leads to further prescribing of things like proton pump inhibitors which long term use of causes more medical issues (like reduced bone density and the inability of the GI tract to fight off infection). These are not difficult things to find and if you are half as adept at scientific research as you attempt to appear to be, it should be quite easy. You may want to cross reference and critically analyze your data for credibility, and review psychiatry’s colorful history and it’s continuing fight to legitimize itself. A good foundation of knowledge is usually enough to form an argument that is not circular.

  • Oh… the simpletons view of health. “Just eat better” is that same as saying “you just need to think about your situation differently”. We can’t address corruption and oppression so we turn to regulating food instead? Quit handing our prescriptions for social problems, putting poison in water, causing people distress through poverty and quit being glib with you solutions that don’t account for the reality of the 99% and don’t include nearly 50% who struggle to put food on the table on a daily basis. This is the affluent’s assessment of the road to “recovery”.

  • Madmom-It is amazing but I know that I can never return to a point in time when I don’t have the knowledge I do now about this corrupt system. I can’t pretend and I can’t ignore so I am always preparing. Reading, waiting for moments that present themselves to interject the truth as gently as possible. I may be forced into the nightmare that is the system again, but I can’t forget what I’ve learned while free of it. I hope to never be victimized by it again and hope to keep forging a new path so that my kids/grandskids are not assimilated and held hostage in a system that has no concern for their well being. People are beginning to see that “mental health” is a parasite feeding on their weakness or that of someone they love. Many people are becoming leery of this system that has promised more than it can deliver for decades. I applaud, inform and support everyone who is waking up and those who haven’t yet. We keep each other moving forward to the goal of a more humane world.

  • Perfect! It isn’t the survivors but how they can discredit the “professionals”, eliminate costly degree programs and disrupt the nonsense of “best practices” that government buys in to. Then the research dries up, the demand for drug company toxins decreases, the economy takes a dip because the herd has moved on to other pastures, etc. It gets very complicated when one thinks about the actual hierarchy that exists and that the disruption of it would cause a domino effect.

  • This was a very obvious thing in the 80’s. The predominant way that alcoholics recovered in the 40’s-70’s was by involvement in a 12 step group consisting of only peers that met in a public building. They shared their experiences and supported each other through thick and thin. There were no cops, no social workers, no professionals. Everyone was equal or peer supported. Then someone had the brilliant idea that AA’s twelve steps weren’t good enough because they had no professional overseer’s (bureaucracy). Thus, the “chemical dependency” co-optation was born and only those holding degrees were seen as a source capable of overcoming the struggles that alcoholics and addicts faced. Ironically, AA was actually created because the medical profession had little to no success. The same thing is happening now throughout the mental illness maintenance industry. The same one that teaches everyone that they are victims of “illness” that require “professional” help.

  • It is just the continuation or “creep” that programs like NAMI started in exploiting those with lived experience. I wouldn’t be at all shocked if their hands were dirty. But then I can’t imagine as identifying as “mentally ill” and then becoming re-entrenched in the system that did nothing but harm to me. I think the people who become involved with this actually think they will create change but, soon find out that they won’t. I also think there are many self-proclaimed “survivors”, as you mentioned, that have lived experience consisting of drug compliance and a subservience to out-patient programs and self-help groups. Those devastated by this horrible industry that I know are too debilitated by decades of drugging or have escaped and would never return.

  • But we never hear about how the “mental health” industry grooms people for future addictions or debilitates otherwise healthy people with periods of extended use of drugs that have never been studied long term. Nor do we bring up the fact that 2 generation have now been conceived in mothers who were told that anti-depressants and benzos are “safe”. This is an entrenched and government supported criminal enterprise that has rewritten human history for at least the short term.

  • Spending money to address poverty, the wage gap, the class war, sexism, ageism, and all other forms of causation to “mental health” problems won’t happen in the US because these problems create a vast, unending well of weath and job security for those at the top of the food chain (providers, judicial system, “social service” programs, nursing homes, etc). This is those in power preying on the weak and vulnerable from cradle to grave and creating more illness in the process. It’s really sickening what this greedy country has devolved into. Talking about and educating about issues is great work but we are way beyond a point where that is effective and it has now become not education/awareness but grooming.

  • Because the welfare and the health of our society is at the bottom because it discourages consumerism and profit margins. The illness maintenance system does not stay in business by keeping people “healthy” nor does “mental health” which also creates an endless stream of unwell individuals to ensure it remains profitable in the future (primarily through the use of neurotoxins; aka “medication”). It is the only explanation that makes sense in light of what we are beginning to understand about psychiatric drugs and any number of screenings pushed by the local GP/provider.

  • This is becoming a political issue because health insurance wants to dictate the medical industry. There is so much momentum now to blame everything for “dementia” and Alzheimer’s” because the insurance and health industry doesn’t want to continue to lose money. Yet there isn’t scrap of solid evidence which points to any element as a causative factor in this debate.
    I find it rather amazing that hyper arousal was listed as a cause yet the author does nothing to address the causes of hyper arousal (CPTSD, current domestic/environmental violence, etc). These are issues that will not be resolved by “improving nutrition”. I am bored with people who are living in secure, stable environments preaching to the rest about how we should just do what they did. How about we have the right to do what works for us, in our situation? Medication may not be the best choice, but there are people who could not function and be productive without it.
    This is another great example of the “medical community” handing out addictive chemicals and having to answer to no one when it backfires and ruins people lives. Just lends more credence to the idea the “health care” is simply an “illness maintenance system”. What will they do when the masses pay them no concern anymore?

  • The industrial revolution has created much of the insomnia that we have now. Historically, people sleep in increments: going to bed, waking in the middle of the night to stoke the fire and check on livestock, then back to sleep for a few hours, work, nap, etc. It is the regimenting of sleep that is the issue.

  • Since the diagnosis itself is unreliable, how can we expect the “treatment” to be effective? So many people are suffering unbearable loss and strain and are given the “depression” label which prevents them from being effective in resolving their misery. Anti depressants are a “feel good” quick fix for a “profession” that can’t be bothered with actually killing their cash cow by resolving something.

  • The disturbing thing is that they are still prescribed all the time, and for things they were never approved for (off-label use). I was recently offered trazadone for insomnia which is wasn’t approved for. It was prescribed by the same doctor for broken toes I had. Seems to have a lot more to do with my history than any actual benefit. Now insurance companies are pushing it as an alternative (cheaper for them, more politically accepted?). Makes me so mad.

  • Great article. There isn’t much I would argue with. It’s amazing how this scientism slowly encroaches on the medical community. But, the lack of available providers has shifted the “treatment” to general practitioners and nurse clinicians who are basically clueless for the most part. I had a great CPN who was daring enough to say, these medications (anti-depressants and anti-psychotics though I had no history of psychosis) don’t work for you at all and then helped me to taper off of them.She was a rare find! When my son refused med I applauded him and refused to participate in the craposphere (BS) that is “mental health” . Thank the stars for the resisters! One life can influence so many.
    Every article I read now is full of the same crap that psychiatry has operated by for decades: “we think this is the problem but have no proof to back it up. But, take our word for it because we do science.” Even more disturbing is that medicine is actually buying into this because insurance companies want to cut any possibility of future problems with anything. Research has become an adulterated and overused word because people see it and automatically think “truth”. So not the case. But, take heart. I see many people questioning the value of “mental health” and the ineffective products they supply. We have a few generations now that are seeing that they haven’t delivered on any promise to help with anything. We are seeing first light.

  • This is the lowest, most unreliable form of “research” that there is. Sounds like a case control study which is cheap and fast and has terrible results that are not reliable in the least. There are others that are being done that are carbon copies that also produce junk results. My intuition says this is a political issue like opiates have become. Some one trying to cover their backside because their “professionals” got carries away with the prescription pad.
    If the medical profession would quit learning about drugs from those who produce and profit from them, we may not see this problem over and over and over again.

  • Unfortunately, prohibition also is not an answer. Not after the fact. I know it’s hard to digest but there are people who actually benefit greatly from these drugs (chronic pain sufferers, CPTSD military vets/civilians who will not recover for example) just as there are those who benefit from opiates. Why is it so difficult to pull away from the all or nothing approach? Because it’s a political issue.

  • It’s the all important component of leaving out context to make something seem like a positive result. What are the socioeconomic situations of the Mediterraneans? How does their social hierarchy function? Do any of these people even understand the complexity of what we call “Mediterranean” people and their vast variances in diet over their large region? The diet basis picks Greece, southern Italy and Spain and disregards the other ethnic food traditions in the area. This area has the climate to produce much of it’s own fruits and vegetables and doesn’t depend on grocers to feed them highly genetically modified produce that will germinate before it rots. But, you forgot to mention the impact of Fukishima’s nuclear waste on the aquatic life of the western coast of the US, the lasting impact on the Gulf Coast from the BP oil spill and the results of fracking on water supplies. Raising the fish you eat in the US in the toilet would be healthier. And. I know it comes as a shock, but too many people in the US don’t have access to “good” food or the time to prepare it.
    You don’t have a “healthy” diet in a toxic environment.

  • The staggering use of anti-depressants began in the early 1980’s. They were in use previously, since the 1950’s, but in the 80’s the drug companies aligned with the “mental health” industry to push them through marketing. Prozac came along in 1987 and was marketed as a “miracle cure” for depression which didn’t work out that way. Yet, the FDA has turned over every time a new psychiatric med has hit the market though decades have shown no efficacy and a host of concerns.

  • Unfortunately, the diabetes guidelines have recently been manipulated and not because there is concern for the health of people. Again, it seems to be a function of the illness maintenance system to shore up profits since their cholesterol schemes have been disproven. It isn’t a coincidence that blood pressure guidelines have likewise been lowered to accomplish the same thing. It’s also ignored that anti psychotics increase the risk of diabetics, yet nothing is done to address this issue and the prescribing of them long term, even to young children, isn’t stopped. So, the CDC says we have a problem, which makes money for those entities involved and never does anything to truly prevent the problem. Quit allowing medicating with psyche meds and maybe, in two or three generations we’ll see some change.

  • Maybe. But you have to remember that “depression” is a diagnosis made on subjective criteria that are usually based on self-reports. These criteria are ever widening with criteria that could apply to every person at some point in their lives. We do know, as well, that anti-depressants make people more ill (disrupt serotonin, metabolic instability, cause agitation and increase suicidal thoughts, etc). The long term use of these drugs may be what maintains the depression (especially the social isolation factor) first reported along with the dis empowering idea that one is “ill”.

  • Oh yes, another well meaning “prevention” program that is actually another way to funnel people into the system for no benefit to them. I am sorry you had to be the beta version suspect.
    I do agree… they can’t find your house if it’s on fire and the residence listed, but they can find you no matter what to take your civil rights from you.

  • Suicide prevention? Not hardly. Allowing people to talk about this would be far more preventative than making them feel ashamed, “crazy” and isolated because they are struggling. What drug company or member(s) of the illness maintenance system put up money to “fund” this? Who monitors it? And, if they can monitor this, what else have they been monitoring and for whom?

  • Brilliant. I love the more direct, “mince no words” approach. That being said, careers have been ended with such brutal honesty by the opposition. I know a psychologist who challenged a shrink on his prescribing practices of a 7 year old (who was already on 4 medications) and was threatened, in writing, by the shrink himself. Those in power are ruthless in defending their man made divinity. But, the tide is about to turn and I’ll be so happy to have a ring side view of their demise.

  • My heart aches for you and your family. That the medical profession caused this and continues to cause it is simply criminal. Yet, the marriage between the health maintenance industry and legal drug dealers makes so much money that it will go on and on until the profits end. We see glimmers of hope here and there, but the power of the corrupt is far stronger, at this time, than our ability to end it.
    I too feel guild about trusting these people with my precious children. Please find peace in how much you did to try and make the best life for her. They exploited your fear and your pain. Shame on them!

  • We know this now. However, 20 years ago, when I was pregnant, I was assured by the medical profession that this was a safe option. I have tremendous guilt over this and daily wonder if my child is suffering because of that use. Risks of anti-depressant use then were not talked about and still aren’t. As a society, we have been had by the drug industry who cares only about it’s profit and stakeholders.
    Parents treat the issue as if it weren’t a problem because they are told it isn’t and they trust medical professionals in an old school way. The trust in medicine has ended for me. I take nothing they say at face value and I hope that my son is able to prove my concerns wrong.

  • I remember contending with this. Pain so severe once a month that I prayed to die. It was a 2-3 day loss of all functioning lying in bed waiting for the agony to pass every month. Try explaining it to an employer and you get brushed off, written up, and eventually fired. It’s not just the endometriosis but also how it complicates functioning that is far more likely the cause of “mental health issues”. This “research” as most of the rest now days, falls a bit short of taking all factors into account on top of the flaw of small, unrepresentative sample size. It also makes women victims of their biology when that just isn’t the case. The economic factors are at least as devestating devastating.

  • We already know this information. Maslow knew it decades ago, but industry doesn’t profit from well cared for people who have the basics (food clothing, shelter) and some sense of security. I think it’s time to quit discussing what we’ve known for many years and move onto why social mobility is impossible and how we live in denial that it is. We need changes bigger that anything the “mental health” industry and government can provide.

  • I think this demonstrates the impact of violating a person very clearly. It can also be used to convey, in some small way, the sexual abuse of children who cannot place words to the things that happen to them or defend themselves intellectually.
    Any profession that aims to improve health and ignores the sheer magnitude of sexual abuse is unethical and dishonest. That would sum up psychiatry in a few words. They are not about helping anyone but rather demonstrating their power and authority regardless of the impact on the people they come in contact with. I remain unhopeful about the current conversation actually translating into resolve to reduce the sexual abuse. We have become a nation known first and foremost for our lip service to all issues.
    Thanks for your courage and determination to make waves and make change!!!

  • The 450,000 thousand is an optimistic guess. The profession trust that is embedded in the US culture prevents any actual hard numbers from being generated. Also, this figure applies only to death and not the millions of other injuries caused by poorly performed procedures, unnecessary procedures (many cases of biopsy, radiation, chemo and removal of benign “tumors”/epithelial lesions) and drugging people without a therapeutic component in doing so (psychiatric drugs but also statins because it has been known for decades that dietary cholesterol does not influence blood level cholesterol in people with good liver function). It is little wonder to me that we spend more on “health care” now than we ever have and we are a far sicker society. Overall cost is not an accurate way to measure positive outcomes.

  • Representative Zerwas had a relative that was suspected of covering up a murder back in 1965. The family, as I knew them as neighbors in the 70’s, were rather unusual people. Terrifying that this type keep finding their way into power. Ironic he should be expressing an opinion on “mental health” when a relative was suspected of covering up the murder of a 3 year old child of a sister. (
    “Another principal character in the book, Lois Jurgens’ brother, Jerome Zerwas, was a White Bear Lake cop who was suspected of covering up the case in 1965. He left the force on permanent disability in 1975 and moved to Elk River, claiming to the end he did not interfere despite testimony to the contrary. Zerwas died in 1997.”
    Sue Abderholden… the high buck NAMI executive director who exploits “volunteers” and is a call girl to the medical/pharmaceutical industry that pay her salary. I’m sure she’ll be right on resolving this problem as soon as she gets done paying lip service to how much she’s going to do (which never seems to end). Representative Lorey , who “represents” some of the poorest areas of the state, thinks that throwing more money at “mental health treatment/prevention” will make everything better without ever understanding the socioeconomic problems that drive human distress. I have yet to recall one significant move forward for the economies of his constituents initiated by him. With all of this, how could anything go wrong?

  • The “gold standard” for measuring depression that was used (the PHQ9) is the property of Pfizer pharmaceuticals. It’s as invalid and unreliable as it comes over and above the glaring conflict of interest. This, combined with a completely restricted population makes the finding all about how a university was paid to do more research which is worthless. It’s almost guaranteed that the results wont apply to most people.

  • Reading this helped me to understand that I was a “frequent flyer” because I found companionship in these horrible institutions. Not with any of the cold, distant paternalistic staff, but with my fellow inmates.

    I remember the forced injection and restraints, the “quiet rooms”, the endlessly repetitive groups of nearly fatally boring content (meant to be a “treatment component”), the smell of disinfectant, the herding of inmates through a tunnel system (because I was indoctrinated when state hospitals were still a thing)…
    I am so very, very glad that you found a way to keep your identity intact through this and teach me and allow me to remember how awful it all was and, thereby, to appreciate how good my life is now. Thank you!

  • I agree with every word. However, there is something you missed or didn’t include here.

    In the area where I reside, the cost is incredible. The average “group home” charges between 300 and 400 dollars a day just for room and board. Add into that waivers for “supportive employment (which are paid by the state), the cost of transportation and oversight of these people (which resembles a work release program) and the costs likely double. “Supportive employment” is yet another way these people are exploited as those they are providing work for are granted a sub minimum wage pay scale. In every single respect, these people are enslaved and no one bats an eye because it has been framed as “treatment” or “therapeutic” and something that will lead to an improved life for the individual. Of course we haven’t included the “social workers” who are always involved and we know they don’t work on the cheap.
    The system is so profoundly disturbed and there is no one to come up along side these folk and lend them a hand up. Economic collapse would have the benefit of ending this abuse. Short of that, however, I don’t see much hope.

  • It is just another way to call someone names. In short, to bully them. The “diagnosis” are based on a fictional account of what constitutes “normal” behavior. There is no science to this. There is, however, many people and organizations profiting off of this. It’s creating a society where common people are now expected to police those who they simply observe and “report” the circumstantial evidence use to determine, from the individuals bias, what constitute abnormality. Teachers have been in this position for a long while. And, at a time when they are consistently losing their autonomy. It’s not likely that they will become allies in stemming the tide of over “diagnosis.”
    But, this problem will eventually self-correct. The cost of special education is beginning to strain schools and, as educational funding continues to shrink, many smaller districts aren’t able to absorb the costs. “Mental health” will eventually drain this profit resource and move onto another victim, if there are any new ones left for it to consume by then.

  • There is some hope.

    NAMI and company is about to invade out work establishment to spread the lies about how “we” can all prevent suicide and promote “mental health”. Corporate is promoting this, all the while, forgetting that the wage slaves that work for them are not going to spend a minute more at work than they are required to. But even more inspiring is the conversation my immediate supervisor started by saying, “Instead of looking at these people and labeling them, maybe we need to go up to them and say ‘I’m sorry you’re going through this and life really sucks sometimes. Let’s talk about it.” Human kindness as a “treatment” strategy? How radical! I love her train of thought. It restored a small piece of my hope for humanity!
    Thinking a lot these recent day about those who have been bullied by the “mental health” system and broken. Their hand forced to end the suffering they never deserved. Suffering compounded by the “helping” profession. But, if we begin to think of every other person as a fellow traveler, we open the door to a kinder more connected world. Stop the “othering” whenever you feel you can. It will make a difference.

  • It’s really not that complicated. It’s a coping mechanism that “professionals” use to pull you into the system and keep you there. In my own experience, medication increase the need to self injure to soothe the restlessness and numbing they induce.
    Also, who is defining self-injury? I see tattoos and body piercings as socially acceptable ways of self-injuring that few people question. This shows the subjective nature of such a term. One that is used to exert control over a persons life because we don’t understand the reaction.

  • I was horrified when I saw this. And, sickened by it. What a power play!!! They could care less about the homeless but the event gave them the window needed to exert complete control over these people in this situation. People who’s quality of life is poor and made and kept that way by organizations like this. How many of them were thrown back out on the street when the crisis passed? How many will be forced to endure “mental health treatment” indefinitely because society failed them. The true intentions of these people is clear and thinly veiled. What does the Miami-Dade County Homeless Trust do all the other days in all the other years? Obviously they aren’t accomplishing their implied task of reducing homelessness.

  • Not psychosis going away. Learning to not let it rule your life? Yes, that has been done as well. Not within the context of “the system”, but it has been done outside of it. Beyond the “help” that is seen as acceptable (primarily medications) even when it isn’t truly helpful. There are research studies that demonstrate the use of anti-psychotics actually increase the likely hood of contending with further bouts of disabling “symptoms”. I have known many first hand that have actually experience hallucination induced by the anti-psychotic they were prescribed never having previously experienced them. This would lend credence to that idea.

    Because the diagnostic process is wrought with subjective criteria, it is likely that in a significant number of cases the diagnosis wasn’t correct to begin with. Flashbacks are often misdiagnosed as psychosis, even though they truly aren’t in any lasting sense. They certainly aren’t schizophrenia. This confuses the issue but there are points worth thinking about.

    I’m glad you stated they you have a mental health challenge. Challenge eludes to struggling with something for the sake of resolution. It is much different than stating “I am mentally ill”. It leaves room to redefine yourself at any time. My best to you.

  • There are, apparently, 35 billion reasons why the system refuses to change one iota. The people distributing the wealth from “mentally ill” people aren’t willing to let go of a dime and actually seek to increase that 35b by any means that they can. Their greed and lack of concern for the human species is appalling. If that 35 billion were used to feed, clothe and house people, strengthen communities, etc., those atop of the current “pot o’gold) would lose not only their wealth but the power that comes with it. The system operates from a twisted base where truly preventing outcomes is seen as something to be avoided. The only way to fight this is to quit being good consumers. Quit literally buying into a system that is already too powerful and uses their control to kill people. Help the people in your community however you can. Let people know that “seeking professional help” has hidden consequences. Change yourself and educate yourself so when the moment presents itself (and it will) you can tell people you opinion and back it with facts (Psyche drugs kill and this is why/how). People will get tired of being sick and tired. The facade of “mental health” complex is beginning to face some challenges. Keep the pressure up! Don’t give up!

  • “If we are to stem the increase in mental ill health problems in young people we need to find ways to make them feel safe. They need prompt access to effective interventions delivered by qualified clinicians and mental health professionals that can alleviate their internal turbulence.”

    No. They need someone who has enough courage and wisdom to admit to them that their perceptions are accurate (which doesn’t require a college degree/proof of indoctrination) Then those same brave souls need to help them start changing the world. All this suggestion does is bloat a system (financially) which has very poor outcomes. Another spin on blaming the victims. Appalling!

  • “[T]his review provides evidence that large-scale, school-based programs can be implemented in a variety of diverse cultures and educational models as well as preliminary evidence that such programs have significant, measurable positive effects on students’ emotional, behavioral, and academic outcomes.”

    I beg to differ. I think these programs pigeon hole kids who are already vulnerable, fail to take their situations into perspective and cheat them out of an education (more so than non-special ed kids) by focusing so heavily on monitoring everything that might look like a “mental health” issue. The people who benefit here are the staff and administration, not the kids. I have yet to see a “preventative program prevent anything in any area of this field in particular. But that always the hook used; that we will make things better in the future. Haven’t seen this yet.

  • It seems remiss not to include all psychiatric drugs in this because they all teach the same thing: 1.) pills will fix what’s wrong with you (because your brain is broken) and, 2.) psychiatry is your “God” so be compliant and submissive because they’re always right. You have no internal ability to judge for yourself. And these are just a few of the lessons.
    This systemic involvement in all areas of life has a paper and money trail. The corruption has to be largely supported by the powers that be to reach the extent it has. And all I hear these days is more money for “mental health” which is more money for a profession who can lay claim to nothing scientific but now tries to pull genetics and neurology into proving it’s legitimacy.
    If one looks at the recent suggestion of using MDMA for depression and other “mental illnesses” we see a new and bolder move to publicly proclaim that known addictive substances can be administered by psychiatry and produce miraculous results (like Prozac did). Are people not paying attention or are they so brainwashed that they can’t see what’s happening?

  • I do agree. I have a son that was bullied endlessly for the first six years he attended school. The school did nothing even though it was reported by me again and again. Yet, when he had had enough and reacted, there was something wrong with him. I, like an idiot, believed it but after about a year and a half of watching those with “expertise” fumble through IEP after IEP, I pulled him out and home schooled (unschooled). He has trust now, has held a job over a year at the same place and is mature and extremely intelligent. He wants to return to an alternative program but does not want anything to do with special education. I am with him on that yet I’m not sure they will be able to 1.) leave the past in the past and want to stick with a group of DSM diagnosis that don’t even fit or 2.) admit that they ever approached anything wrong or failed him in any way or 3) use common sense to understand that people are capable or change. I’ll be damned if they will pigeon hole him as “mentally ill” and offer him a sub par education that will not allow him to peruse the career he wants. Taking the time to read the cues your kids are giving you is huge and can change their lives for the better and allow you to be their best advocate. As a whole, public education is not good and we need to face that truth before anything changes.

  • Though it is a point, it compares apple and oranges. The current state of societies has never been known to humans before so we can’t measure it by historical markers. If we did we could draw general conclusions that we have increasingly become less family/extended family oriented, that the increase in environmental toxicity in the last 150 years is profound, the human tribe has become dependent on a few to sustain their basic needs (the wage slave -vs- the family farm), that corporate greed has replaced the need for thriving people, etc. Certainly we change the genetic long shots by losing so many people, but we have induced that by administering toxic medications to all ages of people and calling it “normal”. The outcome is the same and possibly worse. I think we need to be more concerned about taking action than placing the current situation in it’s proper historical human context. Maybe the time to do this will be after effective changes have been made to reduce the incidence. It’s hard for people to value themselves in societies where there are viewed as nothing more than a commodity.

  • The title of the article should read “The drug industry purchased our “research” and politics guided out proclamation of “hope”. But the blind that are following the money hounds (mental health industry) and looking for a quick, easy way of addressing problems. Never mind that these approaches don’t work and aren’t even based in reality.
    It is nothing short of amazing to watch the loyalty to lies and abuse by a “profession” keep building momentum. One can understand how the Reich gained it’s inroads. Terrifying.

  • I do agree. Self-incrimination leading to revocation of due process, indefinite restriction of freedom based on a subjective set of symptoms. It usually is character assassination as soon as the label is attached.

  • The industry (“mental health”) is banking on the fact that we will react normally so they can bring more victims into the fold to be victimized by their hands. We know when that happens they have ensured a future “consumer” who will likely have little hope of escaping their biological frailties and be tethered to their profession for many, many years. Terrorism and war are good for business. How sad.

  • I knew this information and still find it alarming that we regularly chastise the actions of Hitler without even a hint that what he achieved had it’s roots in American Eugenics. The old saying “Those who fail to learn from the past…”
    But then most people don’t understand that the idea for ECT came from watching pigs being given the same treatment prior to slaughtering to make that task easier. Psychiatry should be held for crimes against humanity yet have spun themselves so well they are literally worshiped. Only ignorance can turn a villain into a hero.

  • What a perfectly accurate reflection. I find so much social science theory woven through the threads and it’s how I remind myself and others that it’s all a set-up. It’s all an illusion and if people are to prosper, the current system must be eliminated. At this juncture, there is no way around that as mental health has it’s tendrils in every aspect of society from the delivery room to the funeral home. It has been built up and worshiped as some type of God that will save us all and nothing could be further from the truth. Only we can save us and it will require lots of work, sweat and tears.
    “Consumer” conjures up thoughts of instant gratification which is part of the problem. We want to believe there is a way over, under or around social and personal demons and there isn’t. And those who “help” have no interest in teaching the truth. It cuts into profit margins and threatens the pedestal from which they issue their demands, or as they call it, “treatment”.
    Thanks for reaffirming what so many of us already know about the system. I stay away from the word courageous as those in the field employ that often now in a belittling manner. I thank you instead for sharing your hard won knowledge that we may benefit from it. Take good care.

  • “The researchers report, “the clear temporal relationships between mental disorders and physical diseases for specific comorbidity patterns suggest that certain mental disorders may be risk factors of certain physical diseases at early life stages, and vice versa.”
    I’m thinking this outcome is a result of “treatment” (which is almost always prescribed drugs) and “prevention” efforts will likely funnel more kids into the system for future drugging.
    I think the best approach to overcome the current MO is to direct educational efforts toward parents who don’t understand that there is a price their child will pay for the quick fix.

  • Wonderful article Jarett. I never had the benzo issue but certainly had every anti-depressant thrown at me and plenty of anti=psychotics. I actually found, for myself, that those “medications” increased my impulsiveness, never decreased my “depression” and gave me a host of other physical problems. I also got the wrong diagnosis and my complex PTSD was ignored entirely by the prescription profiteers (for over 3 decades). I am off all of the garbage two years now, except for a sleeping pill that I have accepted I may never be able to break it off with, and my life and overall health have improved so much I am astonished. Could it be the medications actually make one sicker than they ever imagined they could be? Psychiatry isn’t even symptom management anymore as much as it is illness maintenance! By sharing your story you help shed light on the long term consequences of pill pushing.
    I found your story so inspirational and your courage and strength inspiring! I am glad you are still among us.
    And, as I am planning on Moving to NS, what’s it like there? lol

  • I agree with you. Placing yourself in the “mental health” system is still a form of accepting the “there’s something wrong with you” idea that the entire system pushes. When you remove yourself from that seriously perverted notion and begin to appreciate yourself, the changes seem to follow naturally. The “system” reinforces “victimhood” not “personhood”. And it does so to perpetuate the cycle knowing that “health” is not a financially sound business model. There may be a few people who actually have the right intention and spirit but wading through the majority who don’t is damaging.

  • I think it’s good that the non-drug alternatives are offered. However, that being said, it is still a turn to a dependence on a “health care” system which sells a product. Much of it still seems like a quick fix because it avoids the social issues that create the outcome. It’s like looking at a drowning person and not taking water into consideration of the current situation. Much of the distress and “dis ease” we see has roots in out very sick, disconnected, consumer driven, things before people, easy answers/little work mentality. This seems to be more of that though requiring a little more work than popping pills.

    The same old “health care” system dressed up in new clothing to sustain a profit margin.

  • I applaud your courage and facing this issue head on now that you have some new information. Be sure that between now and then you read as much as you can about benzos and arm yourself with information. If you can’t remember it there is always printing it out or taking notes. 🙂 I have had to do this in all aspects of “health care” as I choose to be a good consumer and informed advocate for myself.

    I wish there was a way to know how this goes for you. Wishing you well on your journey!

  • Thanks for saying what I was thinking!!

    How many kids come to the door step of drugging through public school systems? That would be a very interesting thing to know. But, not mentioned, as well was the involvement of “social service” agencies on seeing to it that children in the system are continually over drugged to make them manageable for who ever doesn’t want to put forth any real effort to help them become fully functioning, happy with who they are people.

    It’s very sad to think that 5 and 6 year old children are being fed toxic chemicals to “help” their broken brains. By the time they are able to want to be free of drugs, they will probably have truly injured brains and nervous systems which the idiots forcing them will say proves their “illness” nonsense. What a vicious cycle.

  • The FDA is a failed regulatory program like so many others of the US government. They are bought and paid for and nothing that they approve or complain about is worth paying attention to. After all, they just approved a candy look alike speed pill for those toddlers who can’t take pills yet. In a few years they will be putting warning labels on the prescription bottles and after it has lost it’s profit potential, they might issue a blurb about some clinical research information that came out 20 years after the fact.

  • This really isn’t anything new because many deprivation studies have been done. The effects of scarcity on humans is not a riddle unless you’re a faux “science” like psychiatry.

    This is eerily psychiatry seeking it’s next victim for it’s profit and that of pharma. And governments the world over turn a blind eye so one has to be curious about their ulterior motives.

  • I thought our court systems were overwhelmed and unable to handle most of it’s work load.

    We should all know (as popular misconception tells us) that any child not prepared to assimilate in the school system is trouble in the making. Maybe, just possible it’s the school system failing the child?

    Oh the irony of living in a country that feels compelled to “educate” everyone about everything even if by force.

  • I applaud you tenacity!

    It’s amazing that the “mental health” profiteers defend and exonerate abusers simply by taking away your ability to have a voice. Sickening actually because the abusers are never brought to account for their actions.

    Glad you escaped and now give a voice to others.

  • Drugging kids leads to “managed” behaviour, not improved quality of life. It is for the convenience of adults and not for what is best for the child. As was said earlier, the child is not the issue but rather the “norm” that is pushed to every kid in every situation likely is. There have been many good articles published on the issue of high stakes testing alone and the anxiety it causes. Add the rest from bullying to unstable home, to hunger, etc and it becomes apparent that the problem is anything but easy and the solutions will never come in pill form. Kids are great little reflections of dysfunction but too many adults would rather ignore what they are saying with their behaviour because it’s just such a messy affair to address problems.
    “it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society” ~Krishnamurti

  • There is one huge problem and that is that your explanation excludes many of the things we understand about human nature. People who lack basic needs, people in abusive relationships, and those raised in abuse are filled with anxiety. Your polarization of blame one person or the other doesn’t do much to resolve the numerous problems that exists behind your simple solution. A parent who hasn’t come to term with their own struggles, one who must live in denial to function will not change beyond a superficial level. A parent who faces an abusive partner isn’t going to benefit from mindfulness while enduring continued abuse. A parent who doesn’t know how they will keep utilities from being shut off isn’t likely to either. You forgot to mention that there are fear responses that exist for a very legitimate reason for many people. Ignoring that fact doesn’t do anyone suffering much good.
    It seems the approach should be to understand the mechanisms and create bonds that can heal everyone.

  • Yes, but addressing obesity and “eating disorders” while handing out prescriptions for “medications” that are becoming well known for causing metabolic disorders that are ignored.

    I got the Paxil and then Vyvanse when I couldn’t shed the weight I had gained. I am now off the anti-depressants and the pills to manage the symptoms they cause. Healthy weight and healthy activity level. Correlation? I think so.

  • I have seen this in many lives including those of my son and myself.

    The prejudice in the “broken human brain” idea and the accompanying idea that it is a life long “defect”. It was my son who had the courage to refuse medication and I supported him in that after several failures and side-effects that were horrid. Then I watched the evolution of “disease” (from “he has ASD” to “he has AD/HD” to “he has bi-polar” all by the age of 11!) and I understood in one moment what was happening to him and what had happened to me. Once DSM’ed you will be there for a lifetime on one page or another and the entire system is now constructed to keep you there from education, to medicine to judicial and it’s just getting worse. The magic in is that he taught me about life, about how differences enhance value (because we have something to offer in differences), how parental denial and a need to “fix” hurts children, how the school system exploits vulnerable kids for the coveted “special needs” dollars to survive… he taught me about truth the value that we all have whatever our perceived differences. He is my hero and I have told him so.

    I hope there are more adults, more “helpers” more people out there who are able to value our children. To understand that they are great mentors if they are allowed to be and we are able to learn from/with them. Listen to their voices and their actions and understand that you have played a part in where they are. Please choose to take action and do the hard work of changing yourself and assisting them. True change will not come from a pill or delegating the responsibility for their life outcome to someone else.

  • This has been a big issue for the last several years to no avail. US healthcare has proven not worth the money.

    What isn’t talked about is the fact that psychiatry (the scam that it is) and health care are beholden to pharmaceutical companies. Together this trio generates so much revenue that the economy would tailspin out of control should any of the three “pillars” fall. So then it becomes an issue of the government to be beholden to the three and to be complacent and compliant (the FDA, congress, senate, etc) to prevent the collapse. However, this approach like so many others our system perpetuates and condones, are not sustainable. Eventually, the house of cards will fall. If for no other reason because there are not enough taxpayers who can afford to continue to support it, to pay for healthcare or to purchase legal drugs. At this point your most correct analysis of “ignorant, docile, drug-taking sheep” will speed the process up because they currently do not see with open eyes but also will not be able to work in the future. Your child drugged by psychiatry today does not seem to be your STEM employee of tomorrow if he/she is employable at all.

    Psychiatry is a failure and those who defend it will eventually fall with it.

  • Another of the many reasons to not watch TV. Apparently, online subscriptions (Netflix, Hulu, etc) have not been made to tow the line yet.

    I see the ads at work and all of them use the same tactics. I always notice the word “may” or “could” as there is no hard evidence and it’s all about the money. The most disturbing one is the one they are now plugging to sell to stage 4 lung cancer patients that “may” give them more time. These parasites are all stamped with the governments seal of approval (which means they aren’t worth diddly).

  • “… community mental health settings, correctional settings, police departments, jails, prisons, courts, probation departments, Indian Health Service, community health centers, child guidance clinics, schools, special services departments, rehab units, university clinics, training hospitals, and local government agencies. Psychological Services is devoted to empirical articles on the delivery of psychological services in organized care settings.

    Wow! That is a lot of organized care. Is it effective?

    Doesn’t seem to me we can continue to ignore the breakdown of society and push for organized anything. Just a thought. Being the skeptic I am, this just seems like a call to arms to generate more revenue and to gain more power to abuse more people with.

  • This is good information but it gets into the old ploy of “you have a problem, we have an answer”. Mentally it leads to garbage like “evidence based” approaches and ends scientific exploration. This type of information reinforces a one-size fits all approach yet again. I think it is important to remember that an individual approach is the most beneficial. There is much information being generated about this topic and it is important to understand that this will not be a good option for many people. It is simply one more tool that may be helpful for some.

    We can’t compare the new age of meditation on any scale to the historical practice. Most other peoples have used meditation for hundreds of years and the practice has been socially reinforced and taught through all ages. There are many different types of meditation even within the old practices and many, if not all, take into account such taboo topics as soul and spirit. Saying that there is but one is unwise and to set a standard to what is meditation and what isn’t will ruin the experience for many. Meditation is about discovering YOUR pathway to peace and wholeness, not someone else’s. It is not what happens in a class but changing life perception through understanding how we are all connected and interdependent, IMHO.

  • I think it’s important that we allow others to do what works for them. Just because something has been studied doesn’t mean we will know the truth regarding the results. Have we not learned that from the garbage research that we are bombarded with almost daily? Most of what qualifies as modern research doesn’t even rigorously use the scientific method.

    The benefits of all approaches have yet to produce 100% effectiveness for 100% of the people. Until then, it is wise to allow each their own opportunity to do what works for them.

  • I work in a health care setting and I am bombarded continually with information of how much control drug companies have. PHQ9’s in every patient clinic exam room (these are exam rooms where you go for medical issues), Zoloft money saving cards in Dr.’s offices, endless pamphlets (created by the healthcare company) with the new increase in the ever popular “pregnancy and post pregnancy depression” category, etc. There is even an emerging redoubled effort to “prevent” teen suicide by “recommending” every kid over 12 take an annual PHQ9 and creating social events to give kids and families “tools” to handle the topic. The answer for all of it is medication first with some supplemental program such as CBT. You have to understand that the insurance companies also play a role in this. Then there are the support group (there is nothing like focusing on what’s wrong to make one feel better!) and the hospital sanctioned NAMI meetings.
    It is all disturbing enough but when you hear a Dr. tell a family that their loved one is depressed, while lying in ICU and dying from a health condition, and that he isn’t capable of making a decision regarding ending treatment and dying… there are no ways to understand this type of ignorance. The medical professionals discredit valid choices regarding healthcare by throwing “mental health” diagnosis at them as if it will prevent their inevitable death. A death only drug out by the health care industry.
    I appreciate your perspective and concerns and wish there was a way to counter the misinformation. The truth concerning alternative approaches and side effects are almost non existent it seems. Everyone is offered the same approach that has failed for decades: pills.

  • “Patients with anxiety disorders exhibit excessive neural reactivity in the amygdala, which can be normalized by effective treatment…”
    Normalized? By who’s definition of normal? Maybe the better approach would be to not label it as a “disorder” for which pharma will come to the rescue ( and shore up their profit margins).

    All of this brain imaging is being done because there are tons of funding (free money) for it and pharma is trying to shore up the medical model to increase it’s propaganda of “prevention” and “treatment”.

  • NAMI is a front. If you ever doubted this look to:

    NAMI currently hides under the support of the health care industry in the form of hospitals and clinics that push the drugs that make the money. Look at their tax forms, the number of paid staff vs the number of exploited volunteers (who parrot their big pharma message). They are not anything they claim to be (grassroots, supporters if the mentally ill, etc).

  • If you are aware at all of the world around you, not being depressed would be more of a concern. You are correct that “depression” does not exist in a vacuum.
    This is another “prevention” and “treatment” angle that will primarily benefit the health care industry (and I use that term to describe the current system in it’s various forms that provide ill health more often than not). Until they understand that this is not an issue that is based in the body but in the soul, there isn’t going to be change. Big pharmaceutical has a vested in keeping things as they are. Their existence depends on it.
    I find it suspect that as more information becomes available regarding the ineffectiveness and the damage anti-depressants do, the government now pushes for a broader drag net. Hmmmm. Coincidence? Probably not.

  • Thanks so much for calling it what it is.

    One only need to look back to the days of blood letting and conversion therapy to see the roots of this “profession” have always been based on bullshit. The big wave of change came when psychiatry teamed up with big pharma and they made a killing financially and in those entrusted to their care, literally. How psychiatry ever gained any credibility is still puzzling but if you tell people a lie often enough it isn’t questioned.

    The terrifying part of it all is to watch the suspicions about the profession come out to see the government react in keeping things as they are. This new screening they are pushing as another “prevention” tool is disturbing. They have failed at prevention so they will get more freedom to pursue and victimize? That’s not a middle ground, that is a blatant step backward. It’s bullshit.

  • “… stops at the point where I am sure he was going to write ‘he has a set of magic bones which your not capable of reading”
    This seriously was the belly buster laugh for the day but because I can visualize it in my head. But, I would give a shaman more credit than a psychiatrist.

    Great exchange and so spot on. The system is upside down and the “Healers” are sicker than those they purportedly help. How to right this upside down problem, inject honesty (without facing persecution) and to make actual change is a real dilemma. Refusing to partake in the game as individuals and creating a community will eventually make a difference I hope.

  • I think the time for “Harmagedon” to end is long overdue.

    Yet I just read about a federal “prevention” panel that wants to make the “mental health” dragnet more expansive (and profitable) by requiring everyone to be screened for depression at clinics everywhere by their GP’s. How terrifying is this since there is likely to be a push of medications in ways we haven’t yet seen? Medications widely being proven to be ineffective and dangerous. And, people will not understand that this “screening” is voluntary and one can refuse to partake like the PHQ9 they push. People need to start being good consumers in health care.

    For every article like this that shed light, we have a bribed idiot in Washington creating a yellow brick road from those who profit by creating and sustaining more human suffering.

  • The “research” is almost laughable and alarming as it seems to, as this type of junk science usually does, pathologize normal reactions to extreme life conditions. It’s not hard to see that the poor are often facing many challenges from homelessness to hunger and general insecurities and over medication by the mental health complex. It’s so sad that with all the technology that we have this is the best that we can offer the masses who suffer.

    Maybe the money wasted on these “studies” and those like it could be used to reduce poverty? That would be far too much like actually addressing a problem.

  • It’s rather obvious that “research” is biased and off base because of the funding mechanisms in place. Insel started this BS and allocated tons of funding. It’s the “In” thing for now and when the tides change again, as they will because of the funding, we will be on to our next one note pony and drawing conclusions about what a selected handful wish to believe.

  • I enjoyed the article and think that the point that we need further discussion is very important. To label something in modern society is to accept it and justify taking no further action to change it.

    I do think that stigma” is a cliché’ term promoted by those who can benefit most from it (NAMI and the NIMH for example). I also think the study falls very short in using a college body as a cross section of population. I think that among different economic levels and cultural groups ideas about “mental illness” are different.

    The term “mental illness” promotes much misunderstanding as it is an umbrella term that really describes nothing. It is all experiences lumped into one heading that serves to foster nothing but confusion. Though those who experience the extreme distress of what would be “psychosis” and those who experience “depression” are both suffering, the term is meant to disable everyone equally and dehumanize at the same rate. Chemical imbalance stupidity is also meant to accomplish the same thing and make a fully human being less than by removing any hope of moving beyond the struggle. There is also not a snowballs chance of individuality in the mire. The DSM is glorified name calling and bullying by a politically and economically sanctioned industry. The system exists as it does to create a new generation to control. The worst attitudes against those who seek “help” comes from the helpers who cannot see individuals but only “illnesses” in a bible of social conformity (DSM). The ironic thing is that if they looked among the pages they would find themselves there.

  • The FDA is lost and hasn’t a clue about half of the things they approve. They also haven’t figured out yet that there is no proof anywhere that “metal illness” regardless of how it’s defined benefits greatly from the psychiatric intervention.

    Let’s label this for what it is: a torture device. Used by the moral police (mental health in all it’s ineffective, greedy forms).

  • This is a good article. The information has been known but the family dynamics and it’s influence on development has been put in moth balls much like Maslow’s hierarchy of needs (which is just as undebatable). In a society where the most basic of needs (food, clothing, shelter) are ignored, we can not hope to achieve a balanced discussion about the ability of a family to function in the best interest of all it’s members. There is little profit in acknowledging the difficulties and generational effects that begin in the family. I think ignoring the problems of those who do not face psychosis but struggle in different and equally painful ways should also be addressed. If we were able to be honest, we would see that we have many more families that fail to thrive than those who do. Social, political and economic issues can’t be ignored in this.
    Not only are families dysfunctional but so are most every institution one comes up against in life (public education, religion, government, etc). When one begins at a deficit, we do not have a society that nurtures recovery from that but builds upon it. Not even the institutions who’s purpose it is to initiate and assist in recovery (the mental health industrial complex) has a clue to the harm that they do. The ignorance of this basic “helping” profession and source of “treatment” can not divorce itself from it’s own delusions (as in psychiatry) to understand that they aren’t helping. None that I have met can even imagine individuals recovering much less being transformed from experiencing their suffering and trials.
    The information you present is very important and needed information but it falls on deaf ears I’m afraid. As the numbers of depression, suicide, familial homicide, domestic violence, etc. continue to rise those who could intervene seem quite content on spewing the same old phrases, handing out the same prescriptions and never questioning their own ignorance and unsettled struggles.
    It’s truly sad and disheartening when the healers won’t heal and the lost and hurting must depend on them.

  • The entire established way of caring for those who experience distress depends on the medical model doing just exactly what this explains. Is this not the cornerstone of creating/strengthening learned helplessness and creating a situation of coercion and an imbalance of power in “treatment” situations?

    I learned some time ago this simple idea; Guilt is response to an action outside of oneself. Shame is something inherently wrong within oneself. One can be resolved and the other can’t because shame indicates defective humanness. Nothing smacks of shame more than DSM diagnosis and the endless cycle it creates. Shame based system spreading shame based lies for control and profit.

  • This is a drug that failed (I think 4 times) to get FDA approval as an anti-depressant because it didn’t work (and, do any of them?). It was put in a pretty new package and sold as something else so Sprout could make money on it. The FDA will approve anything now days.
    And, psychiatric drugs can cause reduced libido but psychiatry and the drug companies can’t point that out. They just hand out another pill to reduce another symptom their pills cause.

    It’s amazing how ignorant the population is about the real stories, effectiveness and harms that drug companies are causing. Most still believe that “Mental illness” is real with biological components (chemical imbalance). It’s so much easier than handling the truths.

  • And the real kick in the butt of it all, at least from my own experiences, is that you have to go through it to get beyond it. The distress becomes the issue instead of the signal that something is/was wrong. What has occurred is forced to remain locked inside to fester with the help of numerous medications and diagnosis that miss the mark and foster anything but recovery.
    But the system doesn’t believe in recovery so that’s a separate issue all together.
    Your comments are great and point to a need for true social and ideological change in the way we respond to and define abuse. Recognition and a calling to account the systems that perpetuate it also is long overdue.

  • Goodness in psychiatry?

    There comes a time when a system becomes so corrupt that the only way to change it’s negative impact is to dismantle it and start new. Forced psychiatry is just a more overt face of that “profession” that operates in the business of violating human rights on a daily basis. The attitude and the ego of psychiatry as a whole is it’s largest problem and so invasive in society, it can only be obliterated.
    You do not save what has destroyed millions of human lives without a single ounce of admission or remorse. If psychiatry were to DSM itself, it would be labeled sociopathic as it has no regard for it’s victims and doesn’t acknowledge or admit it’s part in their suffering.

  • I agree. This isn’t news that is in the least revealing.

    We have a system that, after throwing the topic around for decades, hasn’t made much of a dent in curbing the abuse of kids. Having been there and caught in the wake of those experiences, I found psychiatry overlooked that abuse and the substantial impact that it had/has on my life. I was actually further abused by the very system that was “helping” me with medications and institutionalization I became the scapegoat for the very people who were abusive. It’s very sad to see that so little has changed and that still, more than anything there is more lip service dedicated to the problem than actual help. I recoil when I think about the number of school aged kids who are medicated because their abuse isn’t addressed (because they don’t have the words or are too afraid to expose it knowing it will impact their lives tremendously).
    The professionals are just puppets for the profiteers. There is no other explanation for such an incredibly inhumane way of treating human beings they are “helping”.

  • I’m not positive but we have a system that seems to function for profit off of death anxiety (all of medicine and the pseudo-medicine of psychiatry, the government, etc). People seem to think they can avoid death by taking the right pills, have that cancer screening done, wearing a seat belt, not drinking or eating certain foods, etc. Americans can’t even cope with the inevitability of the effects of growing old (wrinkles, gray hair, body aches, decreased activity, loss of sex drive, etc). We throw the elderly in nursing homes to not have to look at what’s coming and just generally ignore the topic entirely. People who are able to approach the subject are scorned, chastised and treated poorly (as mental “patients) for being able to perceive an end and attempting to spiritually prepare. Then, when approached with death it’s always a litany of questions and cliche’s (“They went too soon”, “They looked so good the last time I seen them”, “Was it his heart?”…) and we end up with immobilized people who aren’t able to offer much to the grieving people because they can’t overcome their own terror over death.
    Then there is the whole list of how we should grieve, how long it should take, when it becomes pathological and on and on. Even in grief we are not allowed to let it take it’s own course or to be individually effected by loss which is the salt in the wound. All circumstances are different and all people as well. I still have days when I weep for someone I have lost years later and I am forced to do it alone because psychiatric wisdom (what a joke) says I should be long over the loss of everyone. Funny thing is, most people I know say they experience the same thing and it seems to be quite an expected part of the process.
    Kubler-Ross herself, in later life, was appalled at the warped and unhealthy ways that her information on grief was broadly applied and misconstrued to the detriment of almost everyone ( ). But it has become an area that fall under the “profit” area of main stream mental health and will likely be as well addressed as all other areas currently are. Death anxiety exists because it is allowed, expected and even promoted in this society. We shouldn’t be shocked at this. We should be outraged that even this basic human experience has been corrupted and regulated.

  • ” giving doctors unchecked power to hospitalize people against their will opens the door for serious human rights violations.”

    It would have been far more accurate written as “extending doctors powers to hospitalize people against their will” as they do with those who have a DSM label. That is what is happening after all. An extension of the abuses that currently occur.

  • There is little hope for the vulnerable in this ever increasing self-absorbed, (with ideas like “best practices” based on lies) commercially (big pharma) driven, paternalistic and delusional main stream mental health movement and society as a whole. They continue to try and gain more ground to absorb more people and attempt to force them to assimilate to a very sick society.
    I’m currently sitting quietly on the sidelines watching it unravel and seeing the truth fall on deaf ears. It’s terrifying how ignorance and a complete lack or regard and honest discussion that isn’t occurring at any level of society.

  • The diagnosis are also based on information that is obtainable (through biological testing) and will remain consistent from provider to provider across the board. Nothing in psychiatry can provide and type of dependable diagnosis. 5 psychiatric providers will likely give 5 different diagnosis depending on the “drug of the month” they are being paid to promote.
    And, even medicine is fallible. The idea that we can manipulate our cholesterol levels by what we eat was recently refuted (and has been doubted for decades). Now that will they do with all those statins? Treat “mental illness” I suspect.

  • More proof that there is no recovery and once given any DSM label you will never escape the realm that mainstream mental health calls it’s own (predominantly controlled by the drug companies, the insurance industry and every non-descript “provider” employed to promote the teachings of psychiatry’s “medical model” even when untrue). It’s just incredibly disturbing when you consider the depth and breadth of the situation and understand how far the lies reach.

  • I find this information to be lacking as it overlooks some of the very key issues that lead up to this.

    We have a society that evades discussion of critical social issues of the time.Each child is expected to be college bound whether there abilities (trades -vs- college, financial ablities, desires, etc) make it a possibility or not. Public education places the same value and the same mark of accomplishment on all students and that is grossly unfair.

    Then there is the medication of everything from acne to depression to “Autism” and back again. Medicating and calling something and “illness” (medical model) can do nothing but injure self-esteem and give individuals the idea that they are broken (shame) not the system they function in. It also puts the responsibility for self elsewhere (medication, DSM label, shrink, special ed, etc) for success. This is a disservice and many kids are exploited by the school system for the extra funding that “special education” brings in. Kids are demoted to revenue generators and not human beings. I also find, through personal experience, that one trapped here kids seldom if ever are able to escape the circus that comes with the special ed “program”. Be very careful about “diagnosing” children.
    Then, there are high stakes testing, the constant threats of violence, cops in schools, “lock down”, zero tolerance policies, bullying by students and staff (though staff is usually more subtle), parents who are too tired to be involved, all forms of financial insecurity for families and schools, parents who are unwilling/unable to raise children, (drugs, homelessness, hunger, inability to afford clothing, etc)… and a system that is unable to acknowledge the struggles much less do anything to have a positive impact. Then there is the small issue of the debt that college creates…
    Seems to me a ton of kids are responding in a very logical way to a very ill society. The fact that were sending poorly prepared kids to an adult world with no way to respond says a lot about how the current adults are handling things. Though parents have a large impact on their kids, so so many other things.

  • The terrifying thing about all of this is that we have no way of accounting for the number of people wrongly diagnosed and treated. Psychiatry isn’t science and it needs to stop being treated like one with the blessings of a government that bends to it’s whims.

    Changes in treatment approaches are great but if they include medications, they are useless. We have nearly 50 years of failure with those “treatments” to prove that.

  • What an amazing article! An honest reflection of psychiatry and anyone under it’s umbrella of influence. They weren’t trained in med school. They were indoctrinated and then didn’t have enough intelligence to question any of it. Simply terrifying.

    Nothing will change with this lot until they are removed from the pedestal on which they reside. This can’t be done until the fantasy of psychiatry as “healer” is exposed for the sham it is and it’s corrupted ties to money (drug companies, universities that are given “research” dollars, the government from judiciary to social services, etc) are made evident.

    There is work to be done and I am most grateful for the revolutionaries like you Mike. Thanks!

  • Is there a risk? We don’t even need to ask that after psychiatry and mental health inc. have had their way in school systems for how many years now? We’re seeing the wonderful outcome of medication of kids long term and our nursing homes. I pulled my son from the public school system that wouldn’t allow him to move beyond an inaccurate diagnosis and saw him as an illness not a student. His education suffered and in the end he will be disadvantaged.
    It’s a dragnet and it’s expanding. It goes unchecked and without regulation and it’s just disturbing.

  • This isn’t about Kaiser alone. This is about pushing prescription drugs that are not only vastly ineffective, but are given as the only “real” treatment. This woman and millions like her are given a pill(s) by a providers and turned out and why? Because it’s more profitable than sitting with someone and actually getting to know their struggles and treat them like human beings. This is mental health inc. towing the line and in denial about the amount of help they are actually giving (very little).
    In all fairness, the system has done little since 1980 to do much more than push pills and conspire with big pharma to create new ailments for pills that needed to be pushed. The only people winning in this situation are those on the profit side (drug companies, medical groups, psychiatry, psychology, school systems, social services, universities that benefit from NIMH grants, NAMI, etc). A system this corrupt and this dysfunctional can’t help anyone. When does the insanity of this unfit “helping/treating” system end so that people can recover and lead good lives? Decade after decade psychiatry proves it can’t manage the task so why do so many still think it’s a legitimate approach to human suffering that will “fix” things?

  • Good points. But this is as well a clear case of discrimination and abuse of power.

    The “system”, which isn’t known for actually resolving problems, would have to begin by cutting the approved drug costs to turn less profit for those who push them. Then the cloak of impunity for the drug companies and the prescribers would have to be tackled. Then, there would have to be a means of providing professionals to engage in alternate treatments and they would have to be removed from the one size fits most approach and the ignorance that is rampant in mental health. Psychiatry would have to begin a new educational process that teaches them they aren’t God’s of social change and that the medical model is a theory. A theory which holds now validity after decades of pill pushing. Peers involved in the process would be far more valuable than most of the “professionals” I have observed who are so driven by bias and their own blind spots they can’t be effective. I might have missed a few other changes Like getting the schools out of the business of obtaining funding for pushing “disabilities” for every “behavioural issue” under the sun. The over prescription is a symptom of a bigger issue. Can it be changed? Yes! Not easily but it can be done.
    It disturbs me that the 5% is a growing percentage. They are pushing chemical restraints in our local school to 6 year old kids (who have horrible living conditions that are ignored by everyone). That the people involved aren’t even given the ability to make a decision based on all the information dooms these kids. I can’t even imagine what their developing brains and personalities will go through. I fear their futures will be grim.

  • I like your idea. But, I also think it would be political death for any candidate. When pressed on the issue of drug abuse in New Hampshire (I think it was) the only candidate who responded was Clinton. And, her response was a restatement of the “war on drugs” which hasn’t accomplished anything. More of the same old, same old.
    I do believe Bernie could be a good agent of actual change, but he is fighting a huge battle against corporate interests that control everything that is currently allowed to happen in main stream mental health. I know none of the rest of the pretenders would challenge it. They are already bought and paid for.

  • I think it’s unfair to generalize. Personally, I prefer a small close knit social group (five or six close friends) and steer clear from larger groups, especially groups that identify themselves as “ill”. In my experience, going it alone is preferably and has fewer side effects than faking it in a “group” of people who cannot accept my weaknesses and strengths. As someone who recovers from years of trauma, trust is an issue. Being around others can be exhausting to someone who is always on guard. Social supports are important but also is allowing someone to define for themselves what that looks like.
    All the rest was the typical BS that psychiatry pathology pushes. It’s getting old.

  • What an amazing article. One I will reread several times just to be able to digest the incredible amount of information in it.

    The one portion that struck me right off is the following:
    “We have an enormous number of people who are suffering from very treatable illnesses who are not getting treatment and who end up getting caught in the criminal justice system as opposed to the mental health system.”

    All I could think was there are fewer civil rights violations and far more defense for the criminal than there is for anyone stuck in the mainstream mental health system. It’s been that way for many decades. To objectively look at the problem is to understand that increase numbers in those who suffer from illness, despite “treatment”, means the treatments aren’t effective. And no system gets a more obvious pass on that than psychiatry. The amount of social control they wield is beyond belief and the lack or responsibility for the trouble they cause/compound with impunity is criminal.

    Thank you for yet more enlightenment.

  • NAMI is too far above those who they do a disservice to those they exploit for their own gains. NAMI also refuses to engage in intelligent conversations or to approach any information that doesn’t fit their financial model which is the “medical” model. They are funded by the medical communities as well and they are spineless. They over pay their few employees and have a mass army of volunteers that they exploit after they have ensured their views are understood and relayed.
    I challenged NAMI online by posting information for alternatives to medications and their funding by these companies and they banned me. I also presented alternative research and treatment approaches.
    They are too arrogant and too powerful to do anything more than abuse those they think they are representing.

  • Another part of this problem that is seldom mentioned is the deferment of social responsibility. At no point in the cycle of this dysfunctional system does anyone take responsibility to be sure that people are cared for. Human lives are “hot potatoes” and people keep being recycled through the system again and again because the system can’t be objective and say “this isn’t working”. The amount that the government (both local state and federal) waste on ineffective programs could cure about every social ill we have. Housing programs in and of themselves receive trillions of dollars and very little of that money trickles down to become shelter for the homeless (combine the money spent between the USDA and HUD for such projects alone). Social services programs serve mostly those employed by them and the mental health complex fails to reduce the overall number of those suffering in the least.
    They seem to miss this single fact; You can’t fix a problem that you deny the existence of.

  • Yet another glimpse into the side show freakishness that is psychiatry. Wanting so desperately for there to be a link does not create a link.
    There are far too many variables in the lives of children to make these types of connections. Psychiatry has a knack of trying to pluck one answer to plausibly explain their conclusions. I also am not fond of the age old terminology used to oppress people who do not adhere to the idea of “normal”.
    Psychiatry is a very exclusionary entity. It isn’t able to take many things into consideration long enough to see the vast range of human behavior/emotion and to understand that people operate on many different levels. They exclude information and then exclude individuals from participating fully in the world around them however they may accomplish that. They want everything explained in neat little packages and tidy solutions (usually in pill form). This would be wonderful if it were actually effective.

  • There has been a substantial amount of information regarding the benefits that pets provide. Companionship and unconditional love is immeasurable as well as their ability to pick up on low blood sugar, seizures(dogs) and other human conditions. Yet their ability to create substantial change in the lives of people is not only overlooked but degraded. It is just part and parcel I suppose of a society that is disconnected from it’s own origins.

  • I agree with your conclusions. Psychiatry continues to ignore the social factors and the lived experiences that can cause people to become vulnerable. But doing that would not continue to increase the flow for pharmaceutical profit that psychiatry and the medical industry has a vested interest in.

    Brain imaging, which is just another attempt for psychiatry to become a legitimate branch of medicine, will be in vogue until the research monies run out. Then they will be off to chase the next “illness” or “syndrome”, using and controlled by the people paying them to find it. The issue is the bad “research” and illogical conclusions they will form until that time that will injure more people than they already have.
    When does this madness stop?

  • The irony here is that psychiatry functions under it’s own delusions. First being that they can make people better by giving them medications that have little or no positive effect on what is being “treated”. They believe they are a legitimate branch of medicine and with the help of pharmaceutical companies most people believe this. They operate on a basis of subjective “diagnosis” that wouldn’t suffice in any other area of medicine and when the issues arise they create another diagnosis or spin the language from “mental health” to “behavioral health”. Over time and certainly currently, their delusions of legitimacy has effected millions of people and become a systemic delusion. The average person convinced that every tear, ever angry feeling, every off colored thought, grief that doesn’t follow a timeline, a child’s tantrum or inability to sit still is certainly a form of pathology.
    It is incredible that this subject is covered in the DSM while those diagnosing it and writing the prescriptions suffer so severely from their own and are blinded to it and not able to be confronted about it.

  • I find this interesting especially in light of the fact that prescribing anti-psychotics for older adults is being brought to the forefront as a deadly action. Then there is the over prescribing that is cradle to grave. Big pharma shoring up it’s bottom line.
    If it walks, talks and acts like a pharmaceutical ad it is. These charlatans are having to be a bit more creative in their direct marketing gimmicks as more people catch on.

  • I’m amazed that none (or few) of these “educated” people can do good research to find out how the effects of limited ability to acquire food effects eating patterns. Especially with the prevalence of hunger in all places of the world. Studies from Africa show some very important information regarding the effects of food deprivation and their lasting effects.
    It terrifies me to see a clown draw a conclusion based on very restricted information and such severe bias. It’s great to know the step-child of medicine is still trying to legitimize itself as a genuine science and at the same time it’s revolting.

  • If the federal government really wanted to discourage their use it might be wise to limit the amount that they are willing to pay to medicate not only seniors but the economically disadvantaged. The US has the highest medication costs of any country in the world. The prices that are allowed for the behavior control “treatments” are outrageous. But, they prevent care takers from having to actually take care of these folks in other than a purely physical way or give them the dignity they are owed at their age.

  • Another good read, I enjoy your insights.
    “Medications” in the fantasy world of psychiatry have done little of nothing even though their broad use began in the 1980’s (if memory serves). Depression, Anxiety, bi-polar and every other “mental illness” remains steady or has exploded. It doesn’t take a neuroscientist to understand the basic premise that if something is truly improving overall “illness” than it is truly a treatment. That leaves three possibilities: 1.) that the medication used by psychiatry don’t work by and large, 2.) that the diseases the medications are prescribed for aren’t accurately diagnosed (in the case of psychiatry we have to argue their actual existence at all are questionable) or 3.) a combination of the first two. To be fair, psychiatry isn’t the only guilty party when you look at the explosion of all medications related to reducing “heart disease” that haven’t actually reduced what they are prescribed for. The difference is that you can refuse those medications whereas mainstream “mental health” never gives you all the information in order to have informed consent.
    The FDA is a joke and as a regulatory are is as helpful as a screen door on a submarine. Trusting them to ensure that drugs are safe in light of their “fast-track” approach is a bad idea. One need only look at the recent lawsuits to see that.
    It’s sad that we have reached a point where we can’t trust the prescriber or the maker of these chemical compounds but maybe as people begin to wake up to this and begin to inform and advocate for themselves, the idea that all life’s problems can be solved by popping a pill will subside. Maybe the need to identify ourselves as “ill” will fall by the wayside and people will gain perspective and not allow themselves and others to be victimized so willingly without even recognizing it.

  • Psychologists are subservient to psychiatrists and will be threatened with job loss and other such tactics should they ever question the expertise of a psychiatrist.
    How a system this dysfunctional can be given ultimate authority over something that is theoretical and wield that power over other is absurd. They push pills. Pills that don’t (in most cases) work to remedy anything long tern or create recovery. And these are the people trusted to care for the sick and vulnerable?

  • When does the “evidence” regarding the ineffectiveness of pharmacology, the effectiveness of open dialog, the role of nutrition and other evidence become included in this “evidence” based approach?
    The whole term is misleading and it’s used everywhere from public education to social services to mainstream mental health and it’s largely unquestioned as has been the “medical model” and the DSM. It’s setting a troubling scenario because it means very little when only some of the “evidence” is included. Just another approach to make an apple look like an orange depending on who is selling the fruit.

  • I think that alcoholism and drug addiction are very real for some people. I also believe that in todays society, “treating” these things is a generator of great revenue and creates much job security. I think that the issue is sensationalized and bigger than it actually is. Like all other things under the umbrella of “mental illness” once one receives a label (addict/alcoholic/dual diagnosis) I think it is virtually impossible to have an atmosphere that allows expression of multiple ways to look at the problem or to “recover”. There seems to be a great amount of evidence regarding self-medicating and it can be a very episodic way of getting through difficult times that isn’t necessarily a life sentence.

  • The whole of Western society is terrified of death. Kubler-Ross tried to make this clear many years ago when she approached the subject. I think it’s clear to point out that, as a society, we fear death and it isn’t just in psychiatry. Psychiatry has the power to torment people who do anything contrary to this accepted ideal however. The fear of death is a great generator of medical services and revenue in the US.

  • The interesting dilemma here is that pushing these stimulant drugs also increases the risk of serious medical events (high blood pressure, ataxia, increased risk of stroke), especially with age. I was prescribed this “wonder drug” even though my medical history clearly indicates that aortic aneurysm run in the family (my mother had 3 and died from the last). I didn’t see where the risk really outweighed any benefit. It actually seemed reckless considering that I am into my 50’s. Even more interesting is that I know my prescriber at the time was very current on drug information and even helped me taper off of the psyche meds I was on. I have to think this is another outcome of the drug industry misrepresenting the potential and benefits of the toxins they dole out while minimizing the risks.

  • Thank you for sharing you experiences Tabitha.

    I too had this experience with my son. After he began having severe hallucinations from taking Risperdal (which I didn’t even know was a side effect and I read the inserts) I began to have doubts. When he went from being on the Asperger’s spectrum to bi-polar (doubt it) I lost all faith that mainstream “treatments” would ever help him move forward with his life. His biggest problem was that despite what everyone said to us, he wasn’t the problem. We said no to medications, I pulled him from public school (because once special ed they would never allow him to be anything else) and he is slowly beginning to find confidence and courage. It helps that he is not in the environment of public education that denies it’s failures, creates anxieties and fails to defend kids or acknowledge the effects that long term bullying has on children. I am also able to see the our life at home is no where near perfect. That idea is not based on the definition of societal norms but rather by how those who are involved are functioning and able to live fully.
    He has inspired me to look more closely at how much of a failure the system is and has been for many decades. Pills as “treatments” maintain illness. Once that is clear there is freedom as you have found.
    Very happy for your family.

  • You are not alone!!! The great trick of the current regime is to create isolation it seems on top of creating an atmosphere of complete and utter lies.

    I am so happy for the people who will have the amazing experience of your non mainstream mental health approaches to resolving human distress. Too many people have suffered and been harmed by the medical model which has been a cash cow for pharmaceutical companies and professionals that prescribe and encourage their use. For those of us in distress, it’s a lie.

    You are very courageous to move forward in the face of great foes.

  • I have had brushes with NAMI and there is nothing they do that isn’t promoting the medical model. If you look at their funding, the rate at which they abuse their volunteers and the way they actually create stigma using the medical model you understand how mainstream mental health they are.
    I too challenged them by posting contrary article that gave pause for people to consider something outside of the crap they post. I was banned. No shock there.
    Keep up the great work! We will make progress toward a more truthful humane approach to helping those who suffer from the undeniable need to be honest.

  • You hit it right on the head. The only treatments that are widely supported and offered are those that center around one thing: profit. That is why nothing improved for people regardless of how much “treatment” (pills) they get. Pills that are toxic and ineffective are given not to help but to maintain illness and, thereby, profit.
    I am glad that you found healing. That you found it outside of the “profession” does not surprise me in the least. Continued good health to you.

  • I can’t help but believe that this is tied into the popular notion that people with any type of mental health diagnosis are viewed as ticking time bombs. The article even mentions this. It is tiresome to see wild conclusions become fact in the arena of public opinion. Politics and money trumping actual information.
    Most of what I have read on the topic actually put the diagnosed people at a greater risk of being victimized.
    Great to see this information brought to the surface but wondering how long it will take to reverse the trend.

  • My experiences are that those charged with caring for the “mentally ill” are mentally ill themselves and promote abuse by invalidating a persons experiences. When you medicate a problem you make it something about a person that is wrong strengthening lived abuse scenarios that many, many diagnosed people experienced. The abusers are granted impunity and the right to use the system to further remain in control over the secrets and abuse.
    It isn’t shocking in the least that there are different perspective about this. NAMI actually uses this information to allow families to control and be empowered to sustain abusive practices over those with labels because people with DSM labels are marginalized not only by family members but society as a whole (and most certainly by main stream mental health).
    I am not saying that there aren’t family members who do take such actions out of genuine concern. But, even they are under duress when a crisis exists and we know that that state of mind doesn’t lead to clarity of perception. And, how can we ever separate the variable of how we have systemically been led to believe that mental health systems are “helping” and “treating” when it is a false but perceived truth? Obviously if a treatment is working you should see a lower prevalence in the condition treated.
    Thought provoking article most certainly!

  • It’s true that somewhere in the 3 full page handout that statement is written. But the industry knows that few people (I’m one of the nerds that does) actually read those inserts. They are more likely to believe that their prescriber wouldn’t give them anything that could actually harm them. Let’s face it, if they have already bought the idea that there is a pill for everything, they probably aren’t likely to invest the time to research what they are putting into their bodies. This isn’t a dig on anyone but it is a fact of life and a result of deceptiveness and an acceptance of ignorance.

  • This is disturbing and a subject which I have never seen approached from a gender perspective. But then we can look at the drugging of depression and see the same types of incredible disparity. My great concern in all of this is that women are often victimized in numerous ways and that is overlooked with devastating results. It is this willful ignorance of the mental health industry and the failures in society to protect these people that continues to perpetuate a cycle of violence toward anyone unfortunate enough to have been in this position. How many women currently in abusive relationships are being drugged into submitting not only to the tyrant in their lives but the industry as well, too afraid to utter the truth? Then, when that doesn’t work, when the magic pills and endless combinations haven’t worked the last blow to any dignity left is delivered with the cruelty of ECT (which was first used on livestock and then applied to humans).
    There is little suffering in this world that is made any better by interventions by the mental health industry. I see the failed experiments of these snake oil salesmen everyday.

  • But, the sad thing is that these types of medications are being used to “treat” depression and, in my own case, PTSD as well. It is such a sad picture when anti-psychotics are pushed for things they were never intended for, but the history of psychiatry and pharmaco marriage has been just that since the earliest days. That these abuses are allowed to continue without consequences is simply absurd.

  • I see it as a way for a failing society (unable to care for their own) to ignore a problem and manage behaviors (that happen to make others uncomfortable) by giving an individual a pill and managing illness, not health. One would think that by now, it would be rather evident that the trillions of dollars funneled through the system to keep the status quo -vs- the failure rate would scream “Time for a big change!”. Evidently it doesn’t even register a whisper.
    Great article but so very sad that there is no will of the powers that be to change a single thing.

  • Depression and violence linked? Yes it’s the medication. More correctly, the medication cocktails because everyone knows you never just get one drug to take (except maybe early on into the indoctrination process).
    As political policy aims to widen the wrong belief that all mentally ill are violent people there is a need to fight back with information that shows the truth.

  • The frightening ways this will be used!
    I can hardly wait until they begin to use if for depressed patients as they have the pill versions of anti-psychotics. Is anyone even trying to keep psychiatry in it’s place or is social control and profit so important that they are given free run?
    Ignorant and cruel study and those running it should be charged with assault. But pharma got the results it was looking for as fabricated as they are.

  • Mental illness and the ensuing course of “treatment” (a.k.a torment, punishment, civil liberties loss) should be linked to socioeconomic levels. My suspicion is that you would find a strong correlation of “mentally ill” at the lower rungs of the social ladder. I have yet to hear any mainstream system point out the causal relationship that exists between “mental Illness”(human suffering) and poverty.
    I do agree with you. And, there is no one seeking to “cure” anything because mental illness is a gravy train and those in first class aren’t leaving anytime soon.

  • I enjoyed your article but it was kind of interesting at the lack of listing the sensation of smell. I am sensitive to touch, sound, smell, color, light levels and almost everything else that passes into my world. Maybe it is due to trauma at a very early age and the duration of that for many years. The hypersensitivity required to survive?
    People always have thought me odd to notice what few others do. To sense the world in a way that few others can or don’t admit to if they do. And the vast majority of what I experience I don’t even mention because people can’t accept it but certainly want to judge it and find a context to frame me in that isn’t usually kind to me.
    I, like you, refuse to accept the labels (and the medications) anymore that seek to put me in my place based on another’s opinion of what “normal” is. To me, the exaggerated senses are how I have always experienced the world and I am working to change my self-ridicule and shame based on what is accepted as illness by society. I seek to celebrate the ways my life is made wonderful by my differences (music, drawing, cooking, photography, writing, etc) to all that I am. There are certainly challenges, but I wouldn’t be half the person I am if one thing were different. I am learning to be at peace with the chaos and take advantage of it. My creative abilities wouldn’t exist without my intensities.

  • Profit margins and bottom lines have replaced any actual concern about improving the human condition. That is not only apparent in regard to psychiatric medications but society as a whole.
    The power imbalance in the field of mental “health” makes it abusive but no one talks about that sad reality. It would be criminal in most other facets of a democracy but it isn’t in this one. The mental health system has placed itself on a pedestal with the help of the drug industry despite the fact that it operates on sheer theory, wishful thinking and measures which, by and far, have been proven to benefit few asides from those making money in some form. It is a high stakes stock market that gambles with the lives of those who are most easily victimized (economically disadvantages, native and African Americans, the young, the elderly, those involved in the criminal justice system, etc) and there is no way to institute balance of power because it is a system which has never had such a thing. The sad fact that mental “health” has weaseled it’s way into every aspect of society (from schools to nursing homes) should give a reason to be alarmed as there are more numerous ways with which to lead one to the gates of the all mighty medication gods.
    Over prescribing, uninformed consent, off label marketing, prescribing drugs never intended for certain populations, the growing rift between the “us” (prescriber) and “them” (the non prescribing clinicians), the harm to millions of people from side effects and long-term use (including withdrawal and lack of support in tapering) among other issues keep the pathetic history of psychiatry intact. Medications are as effective as the other form of witchcraft that psychiatry has performed in it’s history (blood letting, psychosurgery, asylums, etc). It has never been about science but always about a select few being given free run to use the whole of humanity as a collection of lab rats with which to test theory. Even in the light of failure, the same beat goes on all in the name of “helping”. I cringe when I look at the future plans to use MDMA, Nitrous Oxide and other hallucinogens as “treatment” knowing that drug companies would abuse their power through medicine to profit at the expense of a few million more people and psychiatry would hold their hand while they do it.
    Abuse, no matter how subtle, is still abuse.

  • I do agree with you. The “crisis” is one that is largely fabricated for primarily economic gains. The removal of the mental health industry would devastate the economy of the US as it holds a substantial portion of the gross domestic products.

    I love your quote: “If anything, the self-fulfilling prophecy of psychiatry is growing larger because those who should oppose it remain silent, and those who would oppose it are silenced.” This in itself is the sad history of psychiatry and remains to be.

  • ” Psychedelics are a way of exploring the mind in all its depth and beauty and yes, sometimes, craziness. (As in Trungpa Rinpoches “crazy wisdom”) These are our minds; do we really want to suppress them and run away from them the way today’s psychiatrists and pharmacologists want us to?”

    It is also true that pot is used for the same reason with a much milder effect that peyote buttons for example.

    To each their own. If you believe this is adequate, then do it. I would prefer to accomplish the same process through meditation. Others have different ways. It’s not about what can be useful, it’s about those that likely wont be offered a choice in the matter.

  • I too have “tripped the light fantastic” in my youth, but many times with products laced with things (PCP for example). It was truly mind expanding and I didn’t suffer any long term consequences. But, I did meet a few people who tripped and never quite made it back.
    The crime in psychiatry is they take scant evidence and experiment on people to establish the validity of their theories. This is evident in the barbaric and non-effective treatments as blood letting and psycho-surgery. And, anyone who suffers from it is simply written off as collateral damage.

  • That MIA would post an article which seems to support the current proposals that psychedelics will be the next “miracle” cure of the psychiatric profession caught me off balance. This seems to support the notion that Nitrous, “shrooms”, special-k and ecstacy are going to be the next great big cure all for anyone who suffers from any malady that falls between the covers of the DSM.
    Having seen what psychiatry has already made the human race suffer in their attempts to make the whole of the human experience an “illness” or “disorder”, I am rather sure that this also will be another disaster in the making. And, if this will be the going new fad masquerading as legitimate “treatment” then we can elevate the local drug dealer to the level of “shrink”? We will sit and debate the dangers of pot and be rather serious about that while this insanity is spread about and that seems ludicrous.

  • What a wonderful article.

    I am ever amazed at the glaring associations people make with this pseudo science and the fierce loyalty they display to it despite it’s oppressive, misguided and sometimes deadly approach to what is deemed “treatment”. They believe what they are told by mental health without ever questioning it. And, when they are presented with information contrary to what they have been brainwashed into believing (that medication is good, that psychiatry cures, the these are real “diseases” with a biological basis in the brain, etc), they react almost with abusive intent to set one straight. At a minimum, the are hurling insults to show their support (though they show only their ignorance in so doing). It is truly sad. And, even the mental health advocacy groups are in on maintaining the status quo and expect not to be bothered or challenged by anything that doesn’t follow the holy teachings of psychiatrist, the mental health complex and the DSM 5 which are all dirtied by the promise and need for continued profit. I have just begun to present people with the riddle of how “mental health” continues to deteriorate even though nearly 70 years of “effective treatments” have been employed.
    It is refreshing to hear the voice of opposition rising!

  • What a great article representing the TRUTH! So few of the average sheep know the truth and when confronted with it, defend psychiatry’s drug pushing, “theory as science” ways. It never ceases to amaze me. But then, it’s much easier to take pills (or push them at your kids) than it is to face facts and endure the pain it takes to heal. Instant gratification for long term suffering.

    Thank you for the enlightenment!

  • MDMA-ecstacy. I believe it is a level one one substance. Outlawed in 1985 except for use in medical research. Created in 1912 if memory serves.
    I think the whole flipping lot of them in the mental health complex have gone mad. Special-K, magic mushrooms and now MDMA? And the average idiot doesn’t think twice about it and actually defends the next “wonder” cure that psychiatry is sure to create. Vallium, Prozac, ECT, blood letting, lobotomy, Haldol, Thorazine, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics… how many more experiments before the destructive philosophy of psychiatry is shut down? They have more human lab rats than any other true science even when proven their medications are dangerous.
    At the rate it is going, you may as well tip out to the local dealer and cut out the middle man (mental health). But then you’ll be labeled an addict because the drugs on the street are cutting into the mental health/drug company profit margins. They can’t lose and you can’t win.

  • No one argues that, for example, people become depressed. What the issue is that people have been sold an idea that there is somehow science to what “mental health” is all about. There is no science. That they search with desperation to create a link (whether “Chemical imbalance”, genetic or neurological in nature) there still isn’t. This is largely due to the fact that reducing a human being as a collection of behaviors is flawed in and of itself. It would be like an Oncologist removing cancer cells and not addressing the remainder of the body or treating it. They have broad, accepted permission to experiment with human beings with “treatments” that work less than half the time (medications) and if they do work, this pseudo-science can’t tell you why because it’s sheer luck. Medications aren’t the answer. They never have been. But, the create tremendous profit for those on top of the pyramid (drug companies, the medical complex involved in prescribing them). This entire type of treatment should have to be substantiated before it continues in light of the continuously growing amount of information that continues to prove that these medications are toxic. It’s also useful if you do your research to find that drug companies lie and cover up results that are negative. Review that Glaxo lawsuit from 2012 or their new one from 2014 brought by China. Snake oil sellers.
    Psychiatry isn’t a science. It’s a philosophy on steroids.

  • I know this is true but can’t help by be outraged! It’s the kind of outrage that compels me to present the truth about psychiatry (it’s theoretical practices they touted as science) and the deceit for profit of the drug makers who lie to get FDA approval and the lies they tell.
    I actually began to post on NAMI’s homepage on facebook information that was different than the mainstream crap they always post. I brought up their funding sources (drug companies and the medical industry in part) implying their views were biased because of it. I posted info about drug lawsuits, enforced the right of people to know about black box warning by posting them and put the flip side out there daily about all the issues. Needless to say I was banned from posting. This self-proclaimed advocacy group is a farce along with the industry it is part of. True advocacy will start only when the truth can be spoken without punishment.

    But, I don’t think the industrial mental health complex can continue to hide the truth as people connect with one another and discuss things just like this. One by one I hope there will be a collection of people to take these monarchs off their pedestals and secure true help for those of us and all of mankind to be able to live like human beings and not collections of symptoms by some in power who abuse their authority to profound proportions. But, for this to happen people also need to quit demanding and expecting quick fixes and making uninformed choices about participating in this charade call mental health. It’s a hard leap to make but one that pays exceptional dividends.

    More people need to be informed. Pass MIA on!

  • Great article!
    It’s so clearly brainwashing by this pseudo-profession of the industrial mental health complex and great PR on the part of the drug industry. I agree with you birdie as another parent who said “Enough”. Not only did I quit feeding my kids these toxins in pill form, I also pulled my youngest from the disgrace of a public school system that bends over backwards to be in line with this psychiatric stupidity.

    It is obvious that my kids didn’t need medications. They weren’t AD/HD, bi-polar or Autistic as I had been told they most certainly were. The medications did more harm than good. I even had a son who was thrown into periods of severe hallucinations due to Risperdal and wasn’t told that was a possible side effect. I guess it was my fault for not reading the insert that came with the prescription!

    This abuse has to stop.

  • I find someone misguided. It was just last week that I read an article that a psychiatrist in a remote part of West Africa found that several tribes there had no word for mental illness in their languages. But, the good Dr. is going to set that straight by injecting the term and creating a whole new nation of “sick” people. I also suspect that their will be created a whole new legion of those requiring “treatment” which in return generates profit for the drug manufacturers. I searched the piece to try and discover who was funding his efforts but there, of course, was no mention of it. It seems to me to be another phase of the Divine Intervention movement but it is now being exported.
    Your article and your views are wonderful. I think it is far past due time when it begins to be understood that we are a complex being created to every aspect of creation. We effect and are effected and that is how it is supposed to be.

  • Thanks for this honesty!

    I, too, am a psychiatric torture victim. It was unfortunate as I was also violently abused and neglected throughout my childhood and everything this pseudo-profession did simply reinforced all the messages and ideas that I had already been given from my parents. At many points in my early 20’s my father actually took advantage of several opportunities to have me housed in state asylums. Sadly enough, not a single person in the industry could see how disturbed he was. When I suggested he was abusive to a shrink, the shrink basically called me a liar. Being in chemical restraints did nothing for me but it certainly made it much easier for those who were “helping” and “treating” me. Haldol, Thorazine, toxic amounts of Melaril, and every other thing they could throw at me left me a shadow of what I was meant to be. Being labeled and disregarded created many of the symptoms they used to brand me.
    At 50, I am starting to learn that I can’t be defined by a diagnosis in the DSM which is simply a tool to further oppression of those who react normally to abnormal life situations. I am starting to be impressed with the amount of strength it has taken to live through it all and am looking for a way to truly advocate for those in this horrible, abusive system. One who’s greatest concern is their bottom line and the ease at which they can move people through on a conveyor belt. There needs to be a voice that can cause change. We can all be a part of that and your article just reinforces that!
    I continue to be inspired. Thank you.

  • NAMI is a part of the problem not a solution. They do more advocating for the status quo than anything else. I tried presenting information that would open up some avenues for communication and was banned from commenting at all on their page. Yet, they were ready to pander to me for donations for their cause. And yes, NAMI has it’s own agenda and it isn’t advocacy for anyone but themselves.
    The doors need to be opened. Consumers need to advocate themselves and the others like them. It’s a hard step, but nothing will change without it happening.

  • I have to agree with you. The money and the power in mental health lies with the shrinks, the insurance companies and the phama industries. All of whom are at the top of the food chain in the mental health complex and not about to give up their positions or their profits.
    Psychiatry, IMHO, should be charged with crimes against humanity starting with their psycho-surgeries and ECT right up to the present where they prescribe medications by the millions that use the human species they are trusted with as lab rats. They are not physicians. They are quack still selling snake oil.
    I’d like to be able to take these courses. I bet the information is accurate and well presented.