Friday, January 15, 2021

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  • The other problem with supplements — according to latest study — is that 90% of supplements are fraud – they do not contain even traces of what is suppose to be in them — and they can contain some things you may be allergic to — because there is basically no regulation in US regarding supplements and vitamins …….

  • Alex,

    Hi !

    Thanks for your recent info regarding chinese herbal medicine, gut bacteria, and inflammation. it sounds like you have done a lot of research !!!

    Can you direct me to some good resources (books, websites) — where I can learn more ???

    I would greatly appreciate it !!!

    thanks !!!

    P.S. I did meet with a very interesting specialist in CM a few years back; part of what made him so interesting is that he also has a formal MD as well……he did agree to make make up an herbal mixture for me — but he refused to tell me what it would contain (i.e, it was his secret mixture) – I told him that I would not take a mixture — without knowing what was in it (I have certain allergies and there is potential for interactions between med’s and supplements). He refused, so I never took his herbal mixtures…….. interesting, again lack of transparency even with CM specialist….

  • What I find most amusing, is that apparently in the early 70’s with the release of “one flew over cucko’s nest” — there was supposedly a big shake-up in psychiatric treatment, and doctors were all supposed to be talking more with their patients and getting them more involved in their treatments.

    At least in my opinion, regardless what psychiatrists think, little has changed. maybe it is the fear of lawsuits — if they don’t do anything for you — but yes, I think doctors continually pressure patients to take drugs that either are not working or are harming you….when you talk to them about it, usually they tell you need to take HIGHER dosages of the drug to get the full benefits and at the HIGHER dosages the negative side effects will disappear….so after they give you the higher dosages, you feel even worse — and then doctor tries to convince that you need to stay on the higher dosage for much LONGER period of time then he originally told you — to get the full benefits of these drugs and for side-effects to go away. So you stay on higher dosages for longer period of time — and you are sicker than you have ever been — and the negative side effects are so severe — you have lost all ability to function. Finally, doctor agrees that drug is not working (after 6-8 mos of your life have been a living hell) — and then you are in for one more surprise — now that you have been on this drug for 6-8 mos at this high level — it is almost impossible for you to get off these medications !!!! You are now addicted to these anti-depressants which have ruined the past 6-8 mos of your life, and you now waste an additional 2-3 mos in agony — until you have managed to wean yourself off of these med’s completely……..

    While I do realize that psychiatrists are experienced and are not intentionally making anything up, going forward, I have learned to trust my instincts — and now, if a drug is not working and I have severe side effects that don’t go away after several weeks — I insist on stopping these drugs — despite my doctors advice……..

    And I have been in situations where med’s which are making you much sicker — are literally being shoved down your throat — w/o ur permission……

    So, have things really improved that much !!!

  • One thing I have been pretty sure of — is that my mood / depression seems to get worse — if I feel that there is some inflammation in my head. This probably sounds strange, I have told a number of doctors about this. I did get several MRI’s to check for tumors, etc. – but nothing was ever found….

    I have found that diet plays an important role in mood — so my diet is filled with foods and supplements that are known to be anti inflammatory (for example fish oil and olive oil). And I often do feel better after taking both fish oil (but you have to take like 10 capsules for this) and olive oil…….

    About 3 days ago, I read about a new study that claims there is a link between inflammation and mood / depression — so I think I was right all along. (Also, now they are talking about gut bacteria — and that the may be a link between poor gut bacteria and depression…..)

    Years, ago in the early 1970’s when my grandmother was in her early 70″s she told her primary doctor that she started taking an aspirin a day — because it made her feel better. he yelled at her every time she told him this……..then some 20 years, later I’m guessing in the early 1990’s, all these studies starting coming out — claiming that an aspirin a day for some people was good. My grandmother, who was then in her early 90’s, really took pleasure in rubbing this in her doctor’s face…….my grandmother lived to almost 100.

    So, you always need to try different things. And there have been several studies suggesting that high dose of fish oil is good for mood / depression. And there is definitely some truth to the matter that since fish oil cannot be patented — there are not that many studies on it — since big drug companies have little interest in things which cannot be patented. Often if I have bad mood, coffee helps (which is known to be a mild anti-depressant) — however, I seem to suspect, that for at least me, coffee acts as infammatory source — albeit, this may also be the result of the acidity in the coffee. Sometimes when I feel inflammation in my head and my mood worsens, i take aspirin — and my mood gets better…..

    Years ago, I had complicated surgery on one of my ears — and that ear was pretty much always infected for many years after…..of curious nature, pretty much after my ear surgery — was when my depression / mood got much worse…….I went to dozens of ear, throat, sinuis specialists — and they all told me there was no correlation…….and again, I got numerous follow-up images of my ear and head afterwards — but no doctor ever saw anything…….

    But again, 3 days ago — they released this new study suggesting link between inflammation and depression/ mood, and my use of anti-inflammatory supplements and foods — always supported my opinion of this……

    Maybe when I am 90 years old and have died, the autopsy will reveal a growth or source of inflammation in my head that I always seem to feel,,,,,,????

    who knows ?

    Anyhow, I hope that some of my experiences / thoughts may be helpful to others……

    Good luck !!!

  • Dear someone else,

    I am very sorry to hear of all your bad experiences !!!

    Well, some laws regarding medical record’s may be state specific.

    At least in my state, private psychiatrists and private therapists will not or cannot give you copies of your medical records.

    However, I believe that all records from your primary care doctor (even if psychiatric related) — are available if you request them. Records related to hospitalizations and from clinics in hospitals — I do not know.

    You may be right — I may be entitled to get my records from private psychiatrists and private therapists – but they will not give them to you. Furthermore, my current therapist told me that even if he receives a subpoena from a judge — he would refuse. (I am not really sure what that means — refusing to comply with a subpoena — normally subjects individuals to heavy fines and / or prison). I have checked records of a number of psychiatrists who I was interested in seeing — and saw that a few had been formally charged for refusing to comply with subpoena’s and refused to release patients medical records even after rec’ing subpoena’s.

    It probably has to do with their fear of being sued for malpractice. (BTW: without going into details, I did get to see my full medical records of one psychiatrist and one therapist…..you’re right, their hand-writing is terrible and some of their notes / opinions — are pretty weird and far fetched…..) Furthermore, as I suspected from that psychiatrist, her notes were incomplete — and it was pretty much impossible to obtain a history of which med’s she had prescribed to me — from her records; she simply had not recorded the med’s and dosages she had given me……

    But the circumstances under which I obtained them — were unique and subpoenas had been issued to these 2 doctors. So, again, in the state in which I live, you can only get these records if a subpoena has been issued (albeit, some doctors — will still stall…..I guess like Nixon, if they are afraid of being sued, they will lose some of their notes). And again, the notes were incomplete and often not really focused on our discussions……

    I notice that my current psychiatrist (who has a phobia of being sued) starts scribbling frantically when i am discussing things that are off topic — but might help him if I ever sued him — although we are on good terms (so it’s his own phobia that’s kicking in). Also, I do not discuss certain topics with him I don’t want in my records — and a few times I asked him first if we could discuss several topics “off the record” and he agreed — but none-the-less continued frantically writing his notes……

    Also, interesting enough my prior Psych kept coming up with additional diagnosis of me almost every week — according to him I suffered from something like 20 + depressive disorders. however, my newest Pysch has told me that he thinks there is hardly anything wrong with me……somehow, my correct diagnosis must lie approx. in the middle of these 2 doctors opinions…..But again, when I ask my current Pysch what his official diagnosis is of me — he will not tell me. He says that if he tells me — then it will make my recovery much harder……But it greatly annoys me — that as a patient — he will not tell me his official diagnosis of me. I did ask my current therapist, and he rattled off about 12 things. I questioned him about 4 of these – where he got them from — he could not explain (I think he was confusing me with another patient).

    So, anyhow, again there is lack of transparency here — and as i mentioned what the doctor tells you and what he thinks and writes in his records — plus the exact codes hs uses — he will not tell me……. Of course, part of this is for my own good — as he keeps telling me to do things I cannot do, and he keeps telling me I can do them. Maybe he is right — but over the past 2 years that I have seen him, I have tried to do these things — and I have yet to be able……

    I hope things are looking brighter for you, and I guess we both learned from trial and error that there are some really bad psychiatrists out there — and you must fire them if you have to. The problem I have, is that where live — it is almost impossible to find any decent psychiatrists that still take insurance, and w/o insurance their sessions can be as high as $500…….so I have been stuck with some pretty bad doctors at some points…..

    Best of Luck !!!!

  • As far as I know, psychiatrists in most states – either will not or cannot give you copies of your own medical records — unless they are ordered to do so by a judge. So, yes, you would actually have to sue them — to get copies of your own records !!!

    Furthermore, I dare you to get a psychiatrist to even tell you what his official diagnosis is of you !!! (I am referring to the specific codes used by the psychiatric community). These are the codes that will label you — and determine your course of treatment and whether you qualify for assistance.

    There is no transparency here !!!

  • Also, in the world of mental illness – it is very hard to be an “educated consumer.”

    Your rights are limited, and of course, because you are “mentally ill”, many doctors, hospitals, and clinics (even psychiatrists) will treat you differently than other patients and “talk down” to you. In certain settings, people will only talk to your psychiatrist — and will ignore you — because the psychiatrist is always right and always knows better than you !!!

    Some psychiatrists tell you one thing — and then they tell other doctors something totally different. (I only discovered this in hind-site.) Furthermore, a number of times I tried to get copies of my OWN medical records from psychiatrists — only to discover that psychiatrists will NOT give you copies of your OWN medical records !!!)

    One of the main reasons I initially consulted psychiatrists was due to a severe case of insomnia. The psychiatrists were reluctant to give me sleep aids or sedatives –instead, they attributed my insomnia to depression — and they instead put me on SSRI’s for years — all of which had their own serious side-effects and none of which actually cured my insomnia — the main reason I had consulted a psychiatrist in the first place.

    Finally, after many years on SSRI’s, I was told that SSRI’s, themselves, interfere with sleep and can even cause insomnia !!! So for years, I had pleaded with psychiatrists to try other solutions other than SSRI’s for my insomnia — but they told me to stick with the SSRI’s and they would help my sleep. Imagine my shock when I saw a sleep specialist and he wanted to know why the hell I had been on SSRI’s for so long. (And, he was also the 3rd sleep specialist I saw, the other 2 I saw, saw I was on SSRI’s — and then, because I suffered from mental illness as per psychiatrists, they never really listened to anything I had to say !!!)

    So, many psychiatrists who treat depressed patients and have studied for many years to become psychiatrists — actually discriminate against patients who suffer from mental illness or have other mental related problems. And the lack of transparency for a patient that is trying to be “an educated consumer” — can significantly hinder the patient’s progress !

    This I find simply appalling !!!

  • I’m sure some / a lot of this is true — but the author makes it too simple…..

    He’s using logic that IQ of people who smoke is lower than IQ’s of non-smokers; therefore, if you stop smoking, your IQ will go up !

    1) Of course, the more serious your depression — the more likely that you will be given anti-depressants. The more serious your depression, the longer you will be on anti-depressants.
    2) Society’s knowledge and acceptance of depression has significantly changed.
    3) The treatment of depressed individuals and definition of who is depressed has changed. In the 50’s and 60’s, after a stressful day at work (which was often interpreted as everyday) — people came home and drank 2-4 martini’s. They also had 2 martini lunches. So people were self-medicating with alcohol (and the definition of an alcoholic was significant different back then also).
    4) Our lives and workplaces and the job market have changed significantly. Also, standards of acceptable work-place behavior have changed.
    5) People with substance abuse (many who are also depressed) — are now often viewed as having illnesses, and therefore are no longer guilty of their addictions. (Plus, you can now take FMLA leaves for entering addiction treatment programs).
    6) The more money we spend on depression studies, the more drug companies develop and release new anti-depressants, and the more psychiatrists produced by a society — the more consumers for these products / providers we will have.

    When economies are tough, it is harder to get jobs and harder to hold on to jobs. Very few people now work 9-5, and only 5 days per week. Plus, now most households consist of 2 bread-earners — there are few “stay at home moms.” Technology changes on a daily basis, workers are required to constantly learn the new technologies, work 80-100 hrs per week (including weekends) and also care for children at the same time. Therefore (and we will not even discuss the added stress here), many people who were depressed 60 years ago — could still function and work in our society — there was enough “downtime” for person to deal with his depression and / or his decreased level of productivity than today. (Also remember, that in 50’s and 60’s, many people had the same job for 30-40 years and received full benefits. ) Plus, global trade and global competition was far less. And then, of course, we had a pre-internet and internet world. Remember, pre-internet: immigration restrictions — protected many domestic jobs. There were no overseas call centers — because you had to physically live in US and be physically on-site — in order to access the data …..now, with the internet, call centers can be located in India and throughout Asia.

    The world has been re-invented in the past 20 years, and people’s views have been re-invented many times over the past 60-70 years……

    I ran into someone about 5 years ago — who had been fired from his job, because his job had become more demanding and he could not keep up. He collected unemployment for the maximum period of time and then hired an attorney to try to get him disability benefits. His argument for applying for SS disability was that he always had a disability and was able to work for 25-30 years with his disability — but when his job became more demanding, his disability then prevented him from being able to work anymore — because he couldn’t keep up with the raised bar at work.

    In many countries (for example in leading countries in Asia), depression carries heavy stigmas and many people don’t recognize that it is an illness. Since there is heavy shame, there are very few people who admit they have depression — but does that mean there are far fewer depressed individuals in say Japan and Korea — just because they “stay in the closet.” (Look at recent news regarding handicapped and depressed Koreans who were forced into becoming slaves on a Korean Island and gather salt. A number of these people were freed and brought back to Korean mainland — where many remain homeless and wish they were back as slaves on that salt island. Since most Koreans don’t recognize depression as an illness, government and society can’t see depressed people, and there are few government resources available to them.) Furthermore, employers who discover employees on anti-depressants and other similar med’s — can be fired — they lack laws similar to the ADA. However, in Japan and Korea — it is perfectly acceptable in the evening to get so drunk — that you simply pass-out. So, many depressed people hide in the closet and self-medicate with alcohol — which is perfectly acceptable in these countries……..

    And all these soldiers returning from Iraq — I think 25% of them supposedly suffer from PTSD, etc. How long has this been a recognized illness???

    On the other hand, with the newest MRI studies with people with depression, it shows that taking anti-depressants — permanently affects the pathways in your brain. This is a new finding — and the levels and the consequences of these changes are yet known.

    And as medical technology improves — so does our ability to define what is and what not an illness. And of course, politics, society, and religion also tell us what is an illness and what is not. (Recall, Tom Cruise and Brooke Shields fierce debate several years ago concerning postpartum depression ???).

    Anyhow, what does all the above tell us ? Changes in acceptance and acknowledgement, changes in medical instrumentation, changes in the workplace, changes in the economy, changes in public opinion, changes in what is deemed politically correct, consequences of not dealing adequately with depressed individuals (i.e., mass shootings), etc. — all have major components here. (Often, police departments faced with pressure to lower crime, change the definition of certain crimes, rezone their communities to exclude the areas of major crimes, and encourage some people not to report lower level crimes, like pick-pockets, telling them it is a waste of time to report these crimes. So, the REPORTED levels of crime decrease – but do the actual number of crimes decrease ???)

    It is the same thing here.