Sunday, February 18, 2018

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  • “I had to decrease the lithium dosage and eventually the doctor switched me to Trileptal, beginning with a low dose. I was instructed to increase that amount gradually, but the Trileptal brought back vertigo symptoms and dizziness, so I never increased it to the full amount.”

    Good job!

    “I was put on a new regimen of even more medications: Abilify, Zyprexa, Trileptal, and Seroquel.”

    Me too, minus the Zyprexa.

    “When I complained about the disabling feeling of agitation that the Abilify caused, the psychiatrist wanted to add another drug to the cocktail.”

    Mine said to stick with it, but the “agitation” Abilify so ably causes is actually a disorder of the “extrapyramidal” nervous system called akathisia, and it’s very close to intolerable.

    “That was the last straw! I dropped the psychiatrist, decided to go off the medications permanently -”

    Me too, more or less. Took me longer. Abilify can at least be created with causing many people to get off psych drugs forever.

    This is huge, to my mind at least:
    There is ONE reason a doctor would prescribe Trileptal for supposed ‘bipolar disorder” at that time in history, which is the manufacturer’s promotion of the drug, with no evidence whatsoever of any effectiveness, as a treatment for “bipolar disorder.” Without that, choosing Trileptal would only have been done by drawing its name out of a hat.

    Novartis was fined $423,000,000 in 2010 for promotion of Trileptal for “bipolar disorder,” and litigation/investigation regarding the bribes they paid doctors to prescribe it was still going on as late as 2017.

    Your story puts you in the middle of a crime scene, in other words, beyond the usual general criminality in psychiatry. I wonder how much the doctor who prescribed that Trileptal was paid.

  • Thanks for letting people know about your childhood experience. There is something called mild akathisia that is sometimes experienced as remaining motionless. (Not saying yours was mild, by the way.) I had some kind of hellish neurotoxicity that meant the most miserable two years imaginable, or worse, and towards the end spent a great deal of time sitting motionless. My mind would be running at full tilt but I couldn’t conjure up a will to move. Heartbeat and breathing, probably some blinking, were the extent of my physical activity, and only because they have wills of their own.

  • A research at a big university in NYC got a huge grant to study Effexor as an aid to quitting marijuana in so-called marijuana addicts. I’m sure it was a little unsettling when she found that subjects who took Effexor smoked more marijuana during their effort to stop smoking pot than did those who did not take it.

    I’ve never met a marijuana addict, so I wonder about the people who volunteer for the studies. Are they addicted to pot, or something else?

    Nonetheless, just as you found in your own experience, marijuana seemed to help people cope with the unpleasantness that is Effexor. I hope they continued to use pot after the study ended. Some of them will have experienced withdrawal symptoms…from Effexor.

  • This thing about antidepressants being effective in severe depression is bogus but it’s trotted out time amd again. It was a mistaken interprtion of data that led to it. Because effectiveness is measured by the difference between placebo and treatment group, much depends on the patients’ response to placebo. In the most severe depression cases, placebo barely has an effect, but in mild to moderate cases, placebo takers report or potray a mood boost. Thereforestation the gap between drug and placebo effectiveness is greatest for severe cases, even if the drug effect per se is nil.other se just that the reduced placebo effect in severe cases increases the drug/placebo effect gap.

  • One of the worst things that derives from psychiatrists’ believing they are medical doctors of the brain is that it opened the door for all doctors to think they are medical doctors of the brain. Patients who didn’t believe the pros outweighed the cons of remaining in any ward of a hospital, who stated a desire to go home, which is their human and legal right, and attempted to leave, have been tied up and drugged and kept for days, to be stabilized, when doctor and some authoritarian-minded nurses considered them irrational and therefore incapable of knowing what was best for them. Doctors know that it means staying in their control at any cost. They call this “beneficience,” misusing the word when they really mean false imprisonment, aggravated assault, aggravated battery, and a few other felonies, depending on how far they take things.

    They decide someone is irrational if they don’t share the doctor’s view of what’s best for them. Considering the many thousands of us killed by medical mistakes (as opposed to failure of an appropriate, properly administered therapeutic intervention) and how few of them we kill by mistake, I’ll put my money on patients’ judgement when lives are on the line.

  • “However, many other factors could be contributing to poor cognitive functioning, including side effects of antipsychotics and tranquilizers often prescribed for schizophrenia, or environmental factors.”

    It’s the effects, not any supposed “side” effects, of so-called “antipsychotics” (a marketing term) that impair performance in many domains. The drugs are technically tranquilizers and major ones at that, but their effects range from movement disorders to death, so the only descriptive name for them that is accurate is neurotoxins.

    “Twenty-eight studies reporting the various destructive effects of older antipsychotics (especially haloperidol) on brain tissue have been published in prominent neuroscience journals, based on work in animal models, cell culture, and post-mortem human tissue. Multiple molecular mechanisms, pathways, and cascades are involved, eventuating in neuronal death.”
    -Henry A. Nasrallah, MD, then editor in chief, Current Psychiatry

  • Francesca, I think you’re fabulous. As truth says, the shame is for those who compel innocent people into an injurious, demoralizing system for no real reason other than to keep their paychecks coming. It might be a while before you’re free of whatever seeped into you during your involvement with those voracious parasites and can feel yourself as the whole, independent being you entered life as, but that is what you are and always will be.

  • Murphy promoted that bill with false written statements about the life circumstances of four mass shooters, all of whom had psychiatrists and psych drugs in their lives when they committed senseless mass shootings. He offered no references for the claim, which he made at the top of a document stored on his official government Web site, which he called a “One-pager.” This is it in its entirety, augmented by common sense [contained in square brackets]:

    Filename: MHOnePager2.18.15.pdf

    (Fancy Governmental Seal)
    Tim Murphy
    [FORMER] US Congressman for the 18th District of Pennsylvania

    The Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act
    [The Helping Families that Cruelly Effed Up their Most Vulnerable Member (the Kind, Smart, Honest One) Have that Person Discredited and Drugged into Demoralized Silence Act”]

    Untreated serious mental illness in recent acts of mass violence – Adam Lanza (Newtown, CT), James Holmes (Aurora, CO), Jared Loughner (Tucson, AZ), Aaron Alexis (Washington, DC), Elliot Rodger (Santa Barbara, CA) – demands action.

    [It is absolutely false to call four of those cases untreated. (The exception, Loughner, was made visible to the system but ignored by it. He’s the system’s failure, not his or his parents’, and he was a drug users, just not a prescription drug user like the others. And there’s this: “Agents pursued tips that Loughner had undergone mental-health treatment. While those leads were not substantiated…” which is not the same as proven false. See Where did he get that so-called information? One has to wonder, but more to the point, how many votes in the House and the Senate were influenced by this false propaganda? Why is there not one single human being in the federal government who could identify this as false and have Murphy charged with fraud? I’ll write a few letters and update this page if anything comes of it. Now that he’s lost his luster, there might be some open minds.]

    The federal government spends $130 billion annually on mental health. Yet, over the last 20 years the rates of violence, suicide, homelessness, victimization, and incarceration among the mentally have increased.

    [Among the “mentally”? Who are they? That’s a forgot-to-finish typo, which is always suggestive of BS. The author struggled to say something technically true that would advance a BS position. Nothing comes to mind. He eventually wanders off in search of something of that nature in pubmed, fails to find it, and forgets to come back and sew up the sentence with something suitably vague. In this unusual case, the statement under construction happens to go against what Murphy is promoting, but he’s too stupid to realize it. Just substitute “and” for “yet.” Like so:

    “The federal government spends $130 billion annually on mental health and over the last 20 years the rates of violence, suicide, homelessness, victimization, and incarceration among the mentally have increased.”

    Yes, they have increased. So has “mental illness” per se, in particular that “serious mental illness” you call “bipolar disorder,” which I call “exposure to psychiatry syndrome.” So have the incomes of those employed in attempts to prevent and deal with violence, suicide, homelessness, victimization, and incarceration. Shares in CXW, the ticker symbol for Corrections Corporation of America, recently rebranded as “CoreCivic,” have risen from a low of $1.25 in October 2000 to their current price of $23, an 18-fold increase. Indexes like the Dow Industrials, NASDAQ, and S&P 500 have not made such gains, merely lolling around in the doubling to 5-fold zone if you generously track them from their lowest points around 20 years ago]

    The House Energy & Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations revealed that those who need help the most have been getting it the least. An astounding forty percent of Americans with a serious mental illness (SMI) are not receiving treatment. [So what? What percent of that 40 percent wants it? What harm does non-treatment do compared to the harm to those you cal seriously mentally ill and others when your brand of “treatment is forced on them?]

    Despite this record of failure, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) has not been reauthorized since the Clinton Administration. More than half of the programs for those with serious mental illness at SAMHSA have never been evaluated for effectiveness or quality. [You should thank your lucky stars because your profession would be dead if they were.]

    That is why I will reintroduce the Helping Families In Mental Health Crisis Act (H.R. 3717, 113th) to refocus programs and resources to families and patients with the most challenging cases of serious mental illnesses and bring accountability to federal programs.

    The legislation:

    Reforms the Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA)
    –For the first time, brings accountability to how mental health dollars are spent.
    –Requires grant recipients to follow evidence-based standards, eliminates unauthorized programs, and mandates congressional oversight of all federal behavioral health grants.
    –Prohibits taxpayer dollars from going to legal advocates and antipsychiatry activists working to stop medical care.

    [Hang on just a minute.”Prohibits taxpayer dollars from going to legal advocates…” Good gracious! Did that remain in the bill?]

    [“…antipsychiatry activists working to stop medical care.” That’s fraudulent, too, implying that that is what antipsychiatry activism is all about. There are antipsychiatry positions that do not exclude “medical care” or would not exclude it if it were voluntary and if there were evidence that it helped and caused no harm.

    • Empowers Parents and Caregivers
    Breaks down barriers to allow families to work with doctors and mental health professionals to be part of the front-line care delivery team
    [Violates the privacy, civil rights and human rights of adults and children]

    • Fixes Shortage of Inpatient Beds
    Provides more psychiatric hospital beds, instead of expensive emergency rooms, for those experiencing a mental health crisis and in need of immediate inpatient care. [Whether they want it or not. Includes physical restraints, injected Haldol, and video-monitoring. What better way to improve one’s emotional well-being and ability to think?]

    • Reaching Underserved and Rural Populations
    Advances tele-psychiatry to link pediatricians and primary care doctors with psychiatrists and psychologists in areas where patients don’t have access to mental health professionals. [Maybe we can treat their conservatism, too. These lunatics voted for Trump.]

    • High Quality Behavioral Health Clinics
    Improves quality, accountability, and access to integrated medical and mental healthcare at community mental health providers.
    [I hope this improves accountability. However, the measure of success will be drug and "treatment" compliance, not health and happiness.]

    •Alternatives to Institutionalization
    Helps those with serious mental illness get into treatment when they are unable to understand the gravity of their condition and cannot voluntarily seek out care, thereby reducing rates of imprisonment, homelessness, substance abuse, and costly ER visits.

    •Advances Critical Medical Research
    Increases funding for brain research to better understand the underlying causes of neurological and psychiatric conditions. Advances successful NIMH early intervention programs like Recovery After Initial Schizophrenia Episode (RAISE), which reduces suicide rates & helps patients recover through a combination of low-dose medication and support services.

    [Hey, You said “brain.” BAD BOY! In any case, the RAISE Web site lists THIRTY publications based on the study. Here:

    The most recent was published September, 2017. There are no mentions of suicide in any of the titles. Even those that that look promising in terms of covering suicide outcomes do not mention suicide in their abstracts. This, the most recent, is typical:

    “In the present study, the authors compared NAVIGATE [which is the RAISE protocol] and community care [which is?] on the psychotropic medications prescribed, side effects experienced, metabolic outcomes, and scores on the Adherence Estimator scale, which assesses beliefs related to nonadherence.”

    That’s not a study of outcomes for the so-called patients…

    •Criminal Justice Reforms
    Expands Crisis Intervention Team training for law enforcement, so patients are treated in the healthcare system and not warehoused in the criminal justice system.

    [More cops = more getting shot. This training lacks one thing: A real, intelligent, unpredictable person, terrified already, more so by the presence of armed brutes with a reputation for murder, who does something that doesn’t fit the training protocol. They encounter one of those in real life and the bullets fly, training notwithstanding.]

    Integrates Primary & Behavioral Care
    Extends health IT laws, so mental health providers can coordinate care with primary care doctors using electronic medical records.
    [Violates privacy]

    [The End. Followed by:]

    Organizations & Media Outlets Supporting the Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act

    Organizations American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
    American Academy of Emergency Medicine
    American Academy of Forensic Sciences
    American College of Emergency Physicians
    American Occupational Therapy Association, Inc.
    American Psychiatric Association
    American Psychological Association
    California Psychiatric Association
    Center for Substance Abuse Research
    College of Psychiatric and Neurologic Pharmacists
    Developmental Disabilities Area Board 10
    LA Mental Health Association of Essex County, NJ
    Mental Illness FACTS
    Mental Illness Policy Organization
    Nat. Assoc. for the Advancement of Psychoanalysis
    Nat. Assoc. of Psychiatric Health Systems
    National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)NAMI Kentucky NAMI Los Angeles County NAMI New York State NAMI Ohio NAMI San Francisco NAMI West Side Los Angeles
    Nat. Council for Behavioral Health
    National Sheriffs’ Association
    No Health Without Mental Health
    Pennsylvania Medical Society
    St. Paulus Lutheran Church (San Francisco)
    Sheppard Pratt Hospital
    Treatment Advocacy Center
    Treatment Before Tragedy
    U. of Pittsburgh, Department of Psychiatry
    Washington Psychiatric Society
    NY State Assoc. of Chiefs of Police
    Media The Wall Street Journal
    The Washington Post
    National Review Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    The Sacramento Bee
    The Arizona Republic
    The Orange County Register
    The Toledo Blade
    Houston Chronicle
    Raleigh News & Observer
    Bradenton Herald
    The Cecil Whig (MD)
    Express-Times (Lehigh Valley, PA)
    Fresno Bee
    Mansfield News Journal
    Ocala Star-Banner (FL)
    San Mateo Journal (CA)
    Sarasota Herald-Tribune
    Seattle Times
    Washington Observer-Reporter (PA)
    Tampa Tribune

  • You were free to discontinue Abilify. People taking this? Someone will wake up one day and decide the last few days on the drug were just too terrible to repeat. If they don’t take it, what happens? Paramedics? Cops Scolding? Incarceration? No fruit cup? [refers to One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.]

    I’m glad you were able to stop Abilify. When it’s bad, it’s very very bad.

  • Not long ago I saw that there is a body of work concerning “BPD.” I had always read that it was untreatable and that doctors dreaded those they inflicted the label upon. But, it turns out that the so-called symptoms will remit when the labeled person receives therapy appropriate for PTSD. In essence, it is PTSD.

    Furthermore, it is not a lifelong disorder. It probably got that reputation because no psychiatrist was able to improve a person’s condition after telling them they were messed-up whiners for whom nothing could be done.

    It’s hard to say which of bipolar, bpd, or schizophrenia is the most damning and discouraging psychiatric label. There mere fact that are three to utterly destructive things that can be done to one who seeks the help of a psychiatrist is an indication that no one should. Step one is the damning “diagnosis.” Step two is the drugs.

    By the way, Kat’s story exposes the dreadful, worst-case outcome of single payer health insurance. You can’t get a second opinion inside an echo chamber.

    It’s great to learn that Kat broke away from the system that thrived on her unhappiness and made it worse. It’s the beginning of a new life, made somewhat difficult because the body can be affected long after the mind is clear. It’s unfair and inexcusable, what was done to KAT, and very similar to what another British woman, whom I met on Twitter and corresponded with for a while, endured. She needed quiet, empathic companionship more than anything. When despair drove her to try for inpatient care, she was told she would not be admitted because she wasn’t saying she was suicidal.

    I’ll tell you something you might not know: at the worst of times, being suicidal is preferable to not being suicidal. The suicidal individual has something to look forward to.

    All the attention directed at suicide prevention is at the expense of those enduring living hell coming off psychiatric drugs. It seems to be assumed that suicidal people represent the most miserable people on earth. Not by a long chalk.

  • Thank you, Simon. After reading your absurd response to a BMJ article that asserted the serotonin hypothesis of depression is bunk and was known to be bunk even before it launched the and sustained an appalling attack on the brains of physically healthy people, I don’t take anything you say as certain.

    Thank you, TRM123 for quoting the dear lad in his candid moment.

  • Dr. Warme was very kind to share his time for the worthy cause of reforming or eliminating the medical specialization he trained in. So few of his colleagues were immune to indoctrination in medical school or willing to eschew the benefits of adhering to the way things are that we must appreciate to the point of cherishing those who are sufficiently intelligent, magnanimous and self-assured to recognize and publicise the reality-based, scientifically-proven position.

  • At the very least, know the difference between signs and symptoms. Symptoms are what a person feels and might describe to others, well or poorly. Signs are what others observe. Psychiatry probably boasts the widest and most problematic gap between symptoms and signs.

    It’s where
    “I am experiencing my surroundings in a profoundly fascinating way and I wish you people would just go away. I absolutely do not want to go with you to get check out. I’d rather die.”


    “Unarmed female on the south bench in Library Park, suicidal. She was talking crazy, said she saw God multiplying in a ‘fractile’ or something. Alternates between laughing and crying. She’s resisting transport, definitely combative at this point after Jones offered to help her into his vehicle.”

  • Someone Else’s comment makes me wonder why we can’t sue doctors for fraud instead of malpractice. The fraud is easy to prove, and normally, there’s no defense. In real life, if someone sells a gasoline additive by claiming it is safe and effective, but knows it will destroy a certain percent of car engines and not do much good in the rest, that’s fraud.

    Doctors promote antidepressants with the same kinds of statements about safety and effectiveness. When they are defending a malpractice lawsuit, they claim they adhered to “best practices.” All that means is “Everyone else does it too.” It would fall flat in reality-land.

  • What an ordeal. You will be a blessing to many as a lawyer and the worst thing that ever happens to jerks like that sexist jerk of a doctor you had to endure.

    Depakote, which kicked off your story, strikes me as a terrible drug. It messes up people with epilepsy, and they don’t even know it’s the drug a lot of the time. (Or so I gather from epilepsy forums.)

  • I agree with Dragon Slayer here. The section accusing the intended audience of “privilege” is classist and seemed like an attack for attacking’s sake.

    First, I should state that I do agree with the author on the root issue she was addressing. Whether you think of the divide in the populace as:

    “privileged”/”everyone else”
    “poor and ill-served by government agencies”/”everyone else,”

    ….earning a degree is more taxing and takes much longer when you don’t have a car, can’t afford class materials, and have to work two part-time jobs, take care of a family, or both while attending school. To the extent that a) non-white, non-Asian, non-Jewish, non-Persian ethnicity, b) being something other than a heterosexual or a well-behaved gay man or lesbian woman, and c) trauma contribute to poverty, they constitute obstacles too.

    In other words, labeling psychiatrists “privileged” is probably reasonable.

    It’s just that the “privilege” section didn’t make any points. There was no connection made between the fact that many psychiatrists come from financially competent households and the lousy ways they ruin people’s lives. Those lousy ways are taught in medical school and would be taught to anyone of any background.

    The effort to dismiss the equalizing potential of student loans didn’t fly. I can’t think of any belief that would qualify as an “entitled.” The only thing that matters regarding beliefs about paying back student loans is whether they are right or wrong. If someone gets through medical school and launches a career and doesn’t mess up, they will pay off their student loans. Not believing that obvious fact can’t be blamed on an inability to engage in “entitled believing.” In fact, I don’t think there is anyone who doesn’t believe it.

    The tuition at medical schools isn’t the reason the APA isn’t brimming over with people who are poor, of a racial minority other than Asian, of a sexual or gender minority, and/or severely traumatized. The accusation of entitled believing seems like an attempt to avoid acknowledging that it isn’t only rich kids who get to go to medical school. Student loans go to those who qualify for them based on their college transcripts and standardized test results. The thing to do when you realize you’re wrong about something is delete everything you’d written about it before you had to admit it doesn’t support your argument and move on to stronger points.

    This is in defense of only part of what DS wrote. I also agree with what s/he wrote about indoctrination to rigid political beliefs [of any kind, in my opinion], but that didn’t help make the case against the privilege section. It was a counter-attack, just as off-topic and alienating (to some) as the attack on privilege was.

  • BMI takes height into account. If they’re fed a diet suitable for a child of average height, it’s more food than they need. And do they not take the drugs to limit physical activity, the H, for Hyperactivity, in ADHD.

    But I do believe weight gain is a known thing in meth users. Meth causes users to remain fixed in one place, typically in front of a computer these days, burning calories only in their brains.

    Plus, a few years ago, I thought I noticed that the women in methie social sets are built like boys with beer bellies. I even asked an endocrinologist if meth affects sex hormones. For what it’s worth, she said it does. It’s similar enough to Adderall that I expect Adderall does the same thing (if meth really does it).

  • Once, at a hugh yard sale at a huge house that had obviously been the home of a large family, I came across a book by a child of about 10 years of age. It wasn’t published; she had used colored pencils and an otherwise unused scrapbook for her project. It was a book of fairy stories with ambitious but not entirely competent illustrations. The illustrations did one thing, which was to convey her sense of the beauty and delight in fairyland. The first story was okay, although not memorable. She launched into a second story after that, but the lettering of the title tripped her up. I think I know what happened. She was so careful to draw the edges of the letters cleanly and fill them in completely that she didn’t notice a spelling error. It was more akin to a typo than a spelling error, actually. The absence of spelling errors elsewhere makes the “typo” label seem appropriate. In any event, she inadvertently titled the second story “The Glass Sliggers.” The vision she had of crystal-clear, gleaming slippers of glass and the fairies that would discover, enchant, or bestow them will never be known. She didn’t write a word in her book after that. I wondered if her big sister or brother had spotted it and if they teased her for the rest of her life about those glass sliggers.

    Most people are disinclined to write, because it’s tedious, hard to do well, hard to evaluate, and unlikely to lead to compensation. It takes a lot of optimism and confidence to start writing, given that there’s so little in favor of it as a way to burn one’s time on earth. It makes sense that it wouldn’t take much of an attack on one’s optimism and confidence to stop.

    I agree with what you said about the factors that are almost always at play when people don’t write books despite saying they want to. I do believe in the “almost,” along with the rest. However, there’s a question about applicability. I can’t say whether the woman described in this memorial for a friend who was unable to shake the meaning of words said about him, even though he knew they were meaningless, would have written a single word had the nasty bitch and others not discouraged her in the cruelest way: calling her desire to write a sign of what they regarded as her mental illness. I have sympathy for her whether the blame as laid was laid appropriately or not. Her tears were no doubt shed for more than the book she didn’t write. Babies she didn’t have? Men she didn’t marry? The curse is a curse of separation: you from others, you from your belief in yourself, you from any future that bears contemplation.

  • 4% in 2015 is 11.7 times greater than .34%.

    4.2% in 2016 is 12.4% greater than .34%, and represents a 5% increase over the course of a single year.

    If the .34% rate from 100 years ago had risen by 5% per year, we’d now be looking at 44%, leaving very few of the well to run the planet, since most of them would patrolling psychiatric prisons and injecting inmates with coma-producing doses of Haldol.

  • The study on the effect of negative contextual information was flawed. Subjects read about a child. The descriptions included one symptom of panic disorder or ADHD, and some “contextual” information. The contextual information was varied and any effect of the variation on subjects’ tendency to believe that child suffered from panic disorder (study 1) or ADHD (study 2) was captured.

    “Only contextual information, designed to be unrelated to the diagnosis, was changed.”

    The negative contextual information was supposed to be irrelevant to the “disorder” for which a symptom was also included, but it wasn’t.

    The negative contextual information in the panic disorder study was that babysitters often refused to babysit the child a second time. That is not a statement about babysitters, who rely on repeat business, it is a statement about the child. If we can assume that baby sitters’ avoidance of the child was not triggered by his fashion tense or taste in coloring books, it must be about his behavior. It is unusual for a child’s behavior to repel babysitters, so the behavior of this child must be extraordinary. Panic disorder wouldn’t be the first thing subjects would volunteer in a free-response format, but if panic disorder and no disorder whatsoever were the only options, the baby-sitter repelling quality of this child would cause subjects to affirm a diagnosis of panic disorder.

    And this is a mess, too:

    “…participants were much more likely to conclude that the child had ADHD if the child was described as difficult or unlikeable than if the child was described neutrally.”

    Children diagnosed with ADHD are diagnosed because they are, in one way or another, “difficult.” Being a difficult child generally means being hard to like, which means that ADHD-diagnosed children, because they are by definition “difficult,” are also unlikeable. I don’t see how the negative information could considered irrelevant to a layperson’s guess about the presence or absence of ADHD. Then again, I also don’t know why anyone should care about that.

    The supposedly irrelevant information had a greater tendency to cause diagnosis in the ADHD study than in the panic study, but there’s no way to attribute that to the supposedly internalizing nature of panic disorder and the supposedly externalizing nature of ADHD. To do that, the negative contextual statements would have to be the same in both studies. As it stands, it might be the content of the statements alone that increased the odds of diagnosis. If you really cared, and I hope no one does, you could run four conditions:
    panic, babysitter avoidance
    panic, difficult and disliked
    adhd, babysitter avoidance
    adhd, difficult and disliked
    There’s illogic throughout.

    And then this, which means the entire study should be nuked from human consciousness, even if it means we all have to go back in time from before it was conceived and go through whatever tribulations we have endured since that time. It is worth it for a world in which this study was not conducted or published.

    “If parents and teachers tend to base their reports on contextual information that is not relevant to the criteria for the disorder, clinicians will likewise be biased toward diagnosis based on this information.”

    How do you infer from parents’ and teachers’ behaviors that clinicians will be “biased” by irrelevant contextual information? Never mind that the information provided was not irrelevant. If you want to study clinicians, study them. Don’t make statements about their mental processes based on whatever it is you think you learned about parents and teachers.

    Having read and appreciated Brett Deacon’s analytical comment, I assert that the reported study should not have ended with a call for “further research” unless it’s on how to prevent confused and confusing studies about nothing. Less of this sort of thing would be better.

  • I can easily join Dr Breggin in a call to ban the prescribing of psychiatric drugs for children.

    However, any rationale for keeping them out of children applies to adults of all ages, but especially to adults for whom decisions are made by others, including many of the elderly.

    There is nothing about a brain that’s been in use for 18 years and a day that guarantees immunity from the problems caused psychiatric drugs.

  • I mainly agree, but I would call it financial insecurity, which arises when income isn’t adequate the service the costs of the lowest standard of living the individual can tolerate. For the poorest the fear is homelessness, for the rest, the fear is slipping down so many rungs that personally important physical and abstract elements of life are lost. Whether one can empathize or not, rich people lie awake at night wondering if they’ll be forced to sell the place in the Hamptons under the same silvery moon as middle class people worry about paying the mortgage and someone sleeping in their car worries about a crackdown on overnight parking.

    They could all end up on drugs if they went to see a doctor about anxiety. How nice it would be if the car-dweller, who might have Medicaid, could receive, instead of seeing a therapist and taking antidepressants, the money used to pay for them.

    When the problem isn’t so much staying afloat, but inadequate time to get everything done in the household, for the children and the aging parents, etc, plus a full time job, I would bet there are millions of people, women especially, who would be relieved of all symptoms if they were granted a Multitalented assistant or even a just a housekeeper who kept their dwelling spotless and tidy. When you start to break down, it’s EVERYTHING that’s too much, but it is usually just one thing that pushes you over the line.

    It is the ultimate in humanist psychology to leave the human out of it altogether. If there were a medical specialty that treated our bank accounts and homes as “sick” and fixed them instead of us, and health insurance paid for it…well, I can dream.

  • You didn’t ask me, so I hope you and Maradel don’t mind I find if I venture an answer.

    I think the whole world has suffered since the west was won! At any time in the past 4 or 5 centuries, until about 1900, there was a drive to explore and tame and conquer in a westward direction.

    Can you imagine the excitement when North America was newly discovered by explorers and presented to Europe? A vast, very lightly populated expanse with varied vistas and terrains. It wasn’t theirs to despoil or lay claim to, but they believed otherwise and acted on their belief.

    North America (and South) offered an “out” for those who’d messed up in Europe, an adventure for those who were bored, an escape from the Church of England for those who clung to their religion and desperately needed a place to practice it, or, because class systems meant most people would never make a dreamed-of fortune, to the rare bird who ventured to dream, it was a place to stake out something to call an estate. There was nothing of the sort in England.

    Then after that, there were colonies and then a small United States, and even then, there was still the Wild West. California, busy with people who got there earlier, would prove so alluring that battles were fought over the right to govern and apportion the land.

    Restless and bored? Off you went with an expedition, on a horse, or on foot.

    Happy and engaged? Fine, stay on the east coast and model a character for Henry James.

    Once all the wars over what was to be Mexico and what was the be the US were done, the end of the adventure was near. Land got all owned up, claimed by the early, the oily, and the best armed and aimed.

    We can still mess around in the Antarctic or the bottom of the sea, or spit ourselves at other planets in high tech tin cans, but the days of pushing west across habitable and arable land, contiguous with the rest of the great American undertaking, and eventually making a patch of it yours have ended, not all that long ago — my grandparents were children — but decisively.

    And now there is nothing for a certain kind of person to do.

    Well, it will never be over for the financial sector, which I really ought to join some day. They are doing it again, but the unowned terrain is acres and acres worth of loan collateral deserted by the would-be owners along with any intention to make another loan payment as long as they live. It does tend to be in the west, too, where nonjudicial foreclosure is law in most states. Declare default, schedule an auction, transfer title. Think the hapless borrower has the wherewithal to sue? You can’t prove she owes you the money, but frontier justice favors the bold. Swat her off like a gnat.

  • Hi, Maradel, I don’t think anyone would say that there is a “lack of biochemical change” during changes in our experiences and in our reactions to them, and in reacting to our reactions. There is biochemical change at all times in our nervous systems and bodies as whole. What many, including me, disagree with is that the changes are as simple as a lego brain would allow and that a person can go from distressed to contented if we just deliver the right chemicals to the right lego. Maybe we could but no candidate for the lego has been found.

    As for brains being rewired by early trauma, the argument against that is that brains are not wired. They are convoluted lumps of densely packed nerve cells that spit chemicals at each other all day and night and they have tremendous capacity to adapt and learn. They are awfully good at learning about danger and too good at alerting us of danger sometimes.

    Are some associations not unlearnable, ever? Maybe, but I got rid of one once. I had astounding luck with a mental exercise called the rewind technique, which could be of interest to anyone who feels etched or hardwired by trauma. It can be done with a therapist. I did it alone, after finding it online and thinking it was worth a try. I was finally able to sleep without ruminating on and re-experiencing a bad thing that happened a couple of years earlier. It was not the most traumatic event imaginable, however.

  • Very nicely written. A pleasure to read. Also documents an atrocity in progress. Notable among the unsurprising results were mentions of health statistics. More Americans with chronic health problems might be the demographic effect were told it is, but polypharmacy is as good an explanation. Until I can see that the change in the age distribution fully explains the chronic condition increase, I will stick with an explanation that is not in question. Support comes from the US/EU comparison. That is terrible! Our public health servants should lemming off a cliff for that. It is real suffering and early death in population that shares much of the same ancestral DNA with Europeans, including so-called hispanics whose roots are Spanish, French, and German in addition to Incan, Mayan and Aztec (among others). I don’t blame anyone for personal habits, but when dietary dictates, admonitions to “seek [harmful drug] treatment” for problems in living and use disabling drugs to prevent unlikely diseases, not to mention actual malnutritious food in schools, are handed down from on high, those up high have wronged the nation. (I know the lemming/cliff metaphor is based on a Disney distortion, but in the realm of health-related messaging, Disneyesque distortion is the standard. Transcending it serves one’s dignity but no other object.)

  • I hope you realize that this series of events was not about you, anymore than a criminal abduction is about the victim.

    There are some mentally unsound people in your story, but you weren’t one of them. Whatever kicked off your sleeplessness was not a result of a brain disease or a “mental” disease. Lack of sleep resulted in your condition the day the truly crazy people, the clipboard woman and the two cops, arrived. They suffer from delusions of grandeur, messiah complex, anti-social personality disorder, and dependent personality disorder, at minimum. Their symptoms are expressed calmly. Lucky for them, because that is why they’re allowed to do what they do. From their earliest years they found that they enjoyed controlling others, and came to believe they were very good at it. They had little concern for the results of the efforts, only seeking more and greater opportunities to control people, calmly.

    Amazingly enough, governments tend to have jobs designed to keep such people occupied, which might be for the best, considering how hard they’d be to work with at any privately owned companies where collaboration and mutual respect is the order of the day. They operate a self-funding factory of sorts. The moment a normal member of society draws their attention, another product is on the assembly line.

    The ones that went to your house are The Getters. They gather at a residence or workplace, identify the target, and rarely leave empty handed. They deliver the target to one of their hives, whether it’s a jail or a hospital, where the Waiters hang out during the day. The Waiters take over and process the Target like spiders wrapping a half-dead fly in silk. Once the Target is immobilized, the Doctors are summoned. The Target is a human piggy bank for the Doctors. Nothing much in the way of improving the Target’s health or happiness is done. The length of the stay is arbitrary. They play it by ear until it looks like no more money can be extracted from the Target’s health insurance, or Medicaid/Medicare. Then the Target is released.

    There is no other way to make a living by making people unhappy than as a part of the Doctor’s lucrative factory. There is no regard for how the Target feels at any stage in the assembly line.

    We’re told all our lives, by pretty much everyone other than recovering Targets, that this function of government is beneficial. It would be illegal if the government (cops, courts) didn’t play a role. It’s legal because the Doctors, who harvest barrels of cash from the operation, say it should be. No other reason. Doctors but not lawyers or architects or engineers, who are equally smart and study for nearly as long, hold the status of Supreme Beings. They only study anatomy, chemistry and physiology, so why they are given authority over souls and minds is a perplexing question.

    The authority to abduct is supposed to be for the good of society as a whole. The Target endangers everyone else, you see. But the people who endorse and support the abduction, immobilization, and shaking down for cash are the ones ravaging society. They attack one individual at a time, though, so it’s not easy to see.

  • Not tarring the iatro-dependent with the addict brush is only decent, but there are many who are angry about the extreme difficulties and profound suffering they have to endure when trying to get off a prescribed psych drug,* who want to be called addicts because the derogatory term ‘addict,’ when paired with a drug’s name (‘paroxetine addict,’ e.g.), sends the right message about the drug (even if it’s the wrong message about the person).

    *not to mention finasteride and certain Parkinson’s and epilepsy drugs

  • In my case, Dr. Shipko and I shared an understanding of how horrible benzo addiction and withdrawal are. He prescribed a tiny dose and only ten pills at a point when I’d had 18 months of probable dopamine-agonist withdrawal syndrome (though I didn’t know it at the time). I can’t imagine feeling any worse and can’t quite believe I endured what I did before finally going to see Dr Shipko. Pot barely took the edge of the edge off. Beer worked, but not very well. I’d been drinking a 12-pack a day for well over a year; that’s what it took to feel okay. Having those ten pills meant I finally had a way of turning it off, temporarily. It meant the world to me.

    Dr. Shipko wrote this column about people like me, and he prescribed Ativan sparingly, just once, for me. Benzos are not an option for people whose suffering is caused by benzos. Mine was caused by different drugs.

  • I don’t see a problem, but I’m aware that others do and with good reason: what they experienced with benzos, or what they’ve seen others go through.

    I saw Dr. Shipko after almost two years of nearly unbearable post-Ritalin, post-Effexor brain damage. It might have included tardive akathisia of the kind Theodore Van Putten calls “mild akathisia” in which “patients may sit without moving a muscle.” I did that almost all day. I didn’t even lean back; there was no relaxing whatsoever, ever. (I’d had the full-blown kind of akathisia for weeks in the past – horrendous, and not understood for what it was by the idiot MD who’d chosen and prescribed the drug that caused it.)

    Mild akathisia was the least of it in the post-drugs period. It was hell is what it was, with constant battering feelings of doom and horror and a very strong desire to be dead. For a year and a half I barely talked to anyone, because all I had to say was “I can’t stand this another minute.”

    I didn’t want to kill myself. I did want to be struck dead. For every completed suicide, God only knows how many there are like me. I disavowed suicidal ideation, but that state of being should be coded as an outcome that’s every bit as bad as suicide, but it isn’t. When there are no thoughts of killing yourself, there’s no name for it.

    I endured it for a year and a half before going to a doctor. A prescription for ten Ativan pills of .5 mg each, written by a cautious doctor who shared my worry about replacing one terrible drug with another, was a turning point. I fell asleep. I slept. I would have loved more but Dr. Shipko only meant it for short-term relief from what I complained of. Next appointment, I asked if he thought I could have more. He didn’t leap at the chance to prescribe it again, so I did without.

    It helped a lot to have experienced something other than a pounding hell that didn’t get the least bit better for18 months. It boosted my morale. I was finally better a few months later after embarking on an almost-ketogenic diet featuring coconut oil and no sugar or flour.

  • Kirsh’s found that trial subjects who got antidepressants and those who got placebo reported or displayed changes that led to approximately the same degree of improvement whether symptoms are metered by HAM-D, MADRS, or possibly clinical impression. In no way does that mean the trialed antidepressant didn’t improve anyone’s mood. It suggests that antidepressant trials are designed in every aspect to effect reductions in depression scores for all subjects. In subjects assigned to take the antidepressant, an additive effect of a mood-improving milieu and drug is not certain to occur, but if it does, it won’t necessarily mean greater improvement in depression scores for the drug subjects vs the placebo subjects. There is a ceiling on how much a pill can elevate a subject’s mood. Elevating it past the ceiling renders the patient hypomanic or manic, to be adverse-effected out of the trial and the data.

    But I don’t think that’s what happens. It’s probably more like adding milk to 100 cups of coffee (milieu, affecting all subjects) and sugar to 50 cups (the antidepressant, affecting half of the subjects) and reporting the change in volume but not the change in sweetness. (Which is like using HAM-D, in which only one question investigates mood directly.)


    Per Bech, MD, Rating scales in depression: limitations and pitfalls:

    P.S. I’ve commented elsewhere that the drugs do have genuine chemical properties that do alter mood, often radically for the better. I say that because I’ve taken a few of them. I’ve also stolen, long ago, pills from my parents’ pharmacy-sized jar of little yellow amphetamine pills, taken Librium and Quaaludes, snorted coke and black beauties, eaten psilocybin, smoked legendary Thai stick, received morphine and Dilaudid intravenously, and attempted to trip on LSD. All but Dilaudid and LSD caused a pleasant and marked departure from the ordinary. (I didn’t take enough LSD, or it was bogus.) Prozac, Effexor, and Wellbutrin also caused pleasant departures from the ordinary. Effexor comes on in 20 minutes, or did for me, the first time.

  • Let me tell you, transdermal Ritalin prescribed in combination with oral Adderall, Prozac, and Ativan put me in touch with spirits and the universe itself. Being swat-teamed for strange but harmless, non-aggressive palaver with a bank manager rendered the whole multi-week period of bliss rather not worth it, but if it had ended without a terrifying encounter with the po-po, I’d recommend to anyone.

  • Ah, some incredibly cathartic dish-throwing while alone in my then-boyfriend’s dwelling, half of a duplex that I owned most of, did me in, too. I lost about 5 years to the subsequent misdiagnosis and mis-prescribed drugs, which is trivial in comparison with what was taken from J. I might have discovered the remedy for akathisa in my throwing spell. It met every need I had at the time and I was very ready for the nap I commenced afterwards, only to discover three cops had entered the house without the usual formalities and were in fact in the bedroom before I knew what was going on.

    J, I’m glad you got away from it and glad you’re writing. I hate that you suffered and probably doubted yourself and that everyone around you apparently bought into the original misdiagnosis. I hope the (m)ad man in you can blow your story up to a size that cannot be ignored.

  • After all, they suggest, people often cannot afford their medication or do not have access to transportation for follow-up appointments. In such cases, people are not able to continue receiving treatment, and they are more likely to use urgent care or emergency services—more expensive services in the long run.

    suggested revision:

    After all, they suggest, people often cannot afford the drugs doctors prescribe or do not have access to transportation for follow-up appointments. In such cases, people stop receiving drugs and therapy, and they are likely to experience aversive withdrawal symptoms and use urgent care or emergency services—bigger wastes of money in the long-run.

  • Dr. Demitri Papolos has identified a subtype of what he calls “early onset bipolar.” His subtype is called “fear of harm,” exhibited as fearfulness in nearly all situations and labile affect of the “ruining family dinner every single night” subtype. He realized that antidepressants and antipsychotics were not the answer, so he had the wire mothers bring their disordered boys in for a snort of ketamine. To a one, the boys were relieved of symptoms immediately. When they emerged from the K-snorting chamber (which is not called the K-Hole), they were giddy and talkative, high as kites.

  • A blow to the head, even before inflammation sets in, can cause symptoms of depression. Psychiatrists aren’t looking at the blow to the head, or even the inflammation, as causes of depression. They are looking, mainly in the brain, for the neurotransmission and circuitry malfunctions that result from insults and injuries. That’s what the search for the cause of depression amounts to these days.

    Chemistry is where the money is. Drug companies are chemical manufacturers, after all.

  • This Dr. Glass…does anyone know what he suffers from? I gave it some thought…

    From the story on
    “Last week, in an essay in Psychiatric Times, [Harvard psychiatrist Leonard] Glass called the prohibition on such communication “an unacceptable infringement…”

    That’s hyperbolic. All infringements are unacceptable. Including “unacceptable” makes this one seem as egregious as kidnapping for ransom, until you stop and think about it.

    The infringement was on Dr. Glass’s “right and duty” in some regard. Is he sure there’s anyone on earth who feels that he has some duty to them? I’m sensing some grandiosity.

    He goes on about his “right and duty” to…

    “…discuss issues ‘where the perspective of psychiatrists could be very relevant and enlightening.'”

    That presupposes that there exist topics to which psychiatrists’ perspectives are relevant and issues so obscured that a psychiatrist’s perspective will brighten, not dim, our understanding of them. It’s also somewhat hyperbolic, in that “enlightening” us with their perspectives assumes their perspectives are relevant. There’s no need to include “relevant,” much less “very relevant,” except to make what he’s saying seem well-thought-out and therefore unassailable. The wordiness and over-confidence bring mania and grandiosity to mind again.

    His umbrage was smoldering since the publication of a multi-co-authored letter to the New York Times in February, by Dr. Glass and some fellow travelers, concerning the mind of President Trump. The Times let Dr. Allen Francis comment on the futility (and ethics-breaching) of their passionately-crafted co-creation. Dr. Glass self-exonerated last month by citing the aforementioned right and duty. His believing he has some “duty” associated with a public figure who doesn’t know he exists suggests grandiosity, of course, but paranoia, too, should be considered.

    Glass must have had a lot of umbrage waiting to blow. I say that because the piece continued…

    “He ended the essay by announcing his resignation from the American Psychiatric Association [(APA)], which adopted the rule in 1973. He had been a member for 41 years.”

    1973 was 44 years ago, which means the Goldwater rule was in place before Dr. Glass joined the APA. Something having to do with the President upset him so terribly that he undid a decision he’d made 40 years ago.
    –Going beyond believing that one has a connection to a famous public figure and acting on the belief is not just suggestive of paranoia, it’s diagnostic. Leaving a professional log-rolling club after 40 years, not to mention announcing one’s departure in a widely ready psychiatry periodical, is reckless and immodest, which adds support to the developing hypothesis, namely that Dr. Glass was experiencing mania when he wrote about the Goldwater rule. With the affront of the 2016 presidential election not going his way ao wounding as to remain unprocessed, it was inevitable that psychiatric symptoms would develop. He felt uniquely exposed and impotent after the election of President Trump, not realizing he’s one of billions of worthless eaters when viewed from above by banksters, Illuminati, and Dark Statesmen. Our hierarchies, to them, are flat. In reaction, he manifests mania, grandiosity, hyperbolic phrasing, and reckless behavior. The voters (his millions of patients) were not medication- (media-) compliant. He’ll show them what non-compliant really means, acting on every impulse just to show he can. However, mania can be a reaction to an antidepressant, mood-stabilizer, certain antipsychotics, and opioid drug; iatrogenic rather than psychogentic cause is possible. Without drug influence, mania is an axis I disorder. With drug influence, we’re told, it’s not possible, so I’ll stick with Trump-induced mania for his axis I diagnosis. For axis II, I’m considering narcissistic personality disorder (PD), histrionic PD, paranoid PD. There another possibility in a diagnosis I and my “committee” invented just last week. (My committee is me, two chihuahua mixes, a large black wolf-like dog, a mostly white (but he had a rough childhood) pit bull, an understandably furtive – usually absent, in fact – feral tabby cat, and two Rainbow (for inclusiveness and diversity) Lorikeets who live with my neighbor across the alley, both of whom “Tweeted” their participation through the kitchen window for committee discussions and voting.) We christened the complex of signs exhibited by Dr. Glass and others in his field of medicine “psychiatric authoritarian personality disorder,” (PAPD).* The Committee, at our last meeting, concurred with my assessment of mania with underlying PAPD as the ailments that plague Dr. Glass. In frank violation of the Goldwater rule, the Committee approved of and encouraged my publishing our conclusions here.

    *We noted that although authoritarianism as a personality trait has been discussed and referred to especially often since the 1950 publication of “The Authoritarian Personality” by Theodor Adorno and others, it doesn’t make strong in psychiatry. Obviously, taken to extremes, the authoritarianism can become a pathology, yet the great nosologists of psychiatry do not acknowledge that. They have not designed a personality disorder that describes themselves.

  • This article covers topics I wonder about. I often notice something of a narration when I am not talking or reading or playing media depicting the words of others. When there are no words to see or hear, my brain often picks up the slack.

    There was a time a few years back, before I knew about psychiatric drugs’ extreme effects, when I could sense that the source of the narration was the part of my brain that Eric’s parasite inhabits in his. It didn’t seem like a separate being. It was more like the end of a continuum from dreaming (marked by the absence of narration) to wakefulness and the attendant awareness of history, future, actions and consequences. It was caused by the extreme effects of psychiatric drugs. Now I know.

    It happened during a period on transdermal methylphenidate and oral amphetamine salts for ADHD, diagnosed after a few years of unsatisfactory wrangling with psychiatrists and drugs, which started when my well-founded anxiety about my oncologist’s decisions was deemed pathological and Effexor was prescribed…and ingested. ADHD was the least inharmonious of the labels applied to my intolerance of SSRIs, SNRIs, Abilify, et al., so I embraced it for its verification of my essential soundness of mind.

    On multimodal 24/7 assault by speed, I began to experience transitions between what I called “talking brain” and (out of fanciful, partially informed ignorance, believing it to be seated in the legendary pineal gland, which isn’t even part of the brain despite being enveloped by brain tissue), “Pinea.” I experienced or perceived my brain as concentric hollow spheres and believed that Talking Brain was seated in the outermost one, which corresponds to the cortex. There were times when I registered the remarkable fact that I’d been free of the usual narration for hours, which was bliss.

    I am sure that any doctor who understood my mind would have diagnosed psychosis, which would have been horrendous. Though it all led to financial ruin, the path was indirect. It wasn’t so much my inability to pay bills while in that state as the desperate moves I made once I resumed the usual way of living as the captive audience of Talking Brain, which occurred not long after I ran out of drugs. Until then, my mind got to be itself and experience wonderment without posing questions about its source or future availability.

    While the drug supply held, which was a few weeks, I lived happily in the converted attic of my house, with roommates below unaware of my condition, or possibly aware but untroubled. I strongly disliked transitions back to Talking Brain. (I didn’t notice transitions back to Pinea, which were sort of like falling asleep. Only Talking Brain could notice those; if it did, transition failed.)

    I could read and write without transitioning back to TB, but talking, or threat of talking caused by a phone ringing, caused an immediate shift accompanied by impatience and irritation. I exchanged many chat messages with a guy I’d met before a couple of weeks before I started experiencing my consciousness in two modes. There’s a transcript of my swan song, during which I narrated, via chat, the amazing sense of moving among my brain’s layers of concentric hollow spheres. Alas, it reads as gibberish, but I still remember the experiences I was trying to describe. He implored me to “get help” and eventually backed away, which is understandable.

    I’d do it again if I could, if someone could run my business while I was unable to. It’s the latter requirement that proves to be the sticking point. I’d hired a CPA to receive income and disburse payments before it started, because I was growing less and less tolerant of anything that required concentration, and didn’t care to figure out why. He fobbed the work off on his unqualified brother, who berated my clients, lost paperwork, and didn’t pay bills. The guy I used to chat with soon fell obsessively in love, online, with someone who wouldn’t send her picture or allow a visit, he told me later. It was the kind of online love affair that anyone but he could tell was some kind of scam.

    The CPA, his brother, and my new friend, representing sane world, were no more realistic or effective than I was as a representative of my world, but of the four of us, only I would have been deprived of liberty had it all come to light. That’s the price one is at risk of paying when deaf to the “talking brain.”

  • There’s nothing as devastating as a family in league against one child, except a family clever enough to weaponize its malevolence with doctors and drugs. Hardships endured with the support of a loving family pale in comparison. And, of course, there’s no one more vulnerable or less trusted than someone who has been diagnosed with a mental illness and made to take drugs. The drugs validate the diagnosis, which after all is just words, by introducing physical objects that can be seen and touched. They also cause mental states that match the signs of various psychiatric diagnoses and harm physical health in ways that can be attributed to the child/victim’s supposed “mental illness.” Obesity, anorexia, tics, lethargy, insomnia, somnolence, mania, depression, and hallucinations, all caused by drugs and all presumed to be caused by “emotional problems.” Between the meaning of drugs and their disabling effects, they’re self-refilling prophecies.

    Your upbringing was a long-term crime that went undetected because the bad guys had the field of medicine as their cover, but your ability to write about it casts you in more roles than mere victim. You can be a detective, a prosecutor, a judge, and a journalist. Those are powerful positions from which you can correct the lies and reveal the villains. If you can’t find an outlet for your history here or on another site, you can publish it yourself on and promote it on Twitter and Facebook. You can self-publish a book that would be printed on demand or distributed in digital form, with revenue sharing but no up-front costs, on Amazon.

    Too many people are completely ignorant of the grievous harm visited upon innocent individuals like you in the name of “mental health care,” so every effort to inform is worth making. More power to you.

  • What Mr. McCrea said, but also “got” in another way. A drug company’s sales staff is charged with forming relationships with doctors. A plausible conjecture: A few well-funded drinking sessions with legislators’ doctors in Washington, DC will build enough misplaced trust that a doctor of weak character violates HIPAA to get a few laughs or feel like a bigshot. A doctor waking up the morning after a night of debauchery with fun-loving sociopaths from Johnson & Johnson might not remember disclosing medical information about high-profile patients, but the J&J representatives remember every word.

  • Bad luck. That was the year chlorpromazine (Thorazine) supposedly performed its first miracle on the first psychiatric patient to receive it in an attempt to demonstrate proof of efficacy. He was apparently manic, not schizophrenic, there were some serious adverse events with the injections themselves, and his treatment was augmented with ECT and a barbiturate, but hey, if you read about it in Jeff Lieberman’s fake history of psychiatry, “Shrinks” (2015), the trial was a complete success for the man he calls “the psychotic,” and his doctors were “flabbergasted.”

  • “Disordered eating can also be an early warning sign of an eating disorder.”

    “Susceptible individuals may go on to develop an eating disorder from which they cannot recover on their own.”

    That’s written as though no one has ever recovered from an eating disorder on their own. Yet, for example,

    Eat Disord. 2012;20(2):87-98.
    Self-change in eating disorders: is “spontaneous recovery” possible?
    Vandereycken W.

    A limited series of community studies including non-treatment-seekers has shown that a considerable number of eating disorder patients do not enter the health care system but can be considered “clinically recovered” (remission of major symptoms) if followed up long enough.

    The possibility of “spontaneous recovery” (overcoming an eating disorder without professional treatment or formal help) often faces scepticism on the part of professionals.

    Clearly, self-change is an underestimated pathway to recovery from an eating disorder, but open-minded clinicians can learn a lot from it.

    Disordered eating encompasses one or more of the following types of behavior:
    [Note that it says just ONE is enough to meet their definition of disordered eating.]

    ◆ Skipping meals. [This is crazy.]

    ◆ Restricting food choices to a few “acceptable” items. [The scare quotes are condescending and insulting. If the kids are choosing from what’s on offer in the vending machines in the community college I attended two years ago, they’d be correct in saying there were only a few acceptable items. It’s like General Mills wrote this thing.]

    ◆ Focusing excessively on avoiding certain foods, particularly foods that contain fat.
    [Even if it’s hydrogenated vegetable oil?]

    ◆ Binge eating, particularly snack foods and sweets. [Define binge eating, and explain why binging on chicken kiev is any less bingey than binging on snacks and sweets.]

    ◆ Self-induced vomiting. [The best kind, if you ask me, and a perfectly healthy thing to do if you’re having a bout of nausea from those psych drugs they put you on to “treat” your “disordered eating.” The old finger down the throat is a 100% effective and safe way to bring instant relief from a sometimes-debilitating condition. Waiting until you vomit spontaneously is self-induced torture.]

    ◆ Taking laxatives, diuretics (water pills), or diet pills. [even if they suffer from constipation, menstruation-related water retention, or have more adipose tissue than is healthy?]

  • FYI:

    Anna Westin Act of 2015
    Introduced in House (05/21/2015)

    Sponsor: Rep. Deutch, Theodore E. [D-FL-21] (Introduced 05/21/2015)

    House – Energy and Commerce;
    Education and the Workforce;
    Ways and Means

    Latest Action: 06/03/2016 Referred to the Subcommittee on Health. (All Actions)

    This bill requires the Office on Women’s Health of the Department of Health and Human Services to revise, promote, and make freely available the BodyWise Handbook and BodyWorks obesity prevention program [SEE NEXT REPLY]. The handbook must include information about eating disorders relating to males as well as females.

    The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration must award grants: (1) to integrate training on eating disorders into existing curricula for health, mental health, and public health professionals; and (2) to states, Indian tribes, tribal organizations, and educational institutions for seminars for school personnel on eating disorders and to make resources available to individuals affected by eating disorders.

    The National Institute of Mental Health must make public service announcements on eating disorders.

    This bill amends the Public Health Service Act, Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA), and Internal Revenue Code to prohibit health insurance coverage from permanently excluding a particular condition from mental health or substance use disorder benefits. Mental health and substance use disorder benefits include residential treatment.

    The Federal Trade Commission must submit to Congress a report that contains a strategy and recommendations to reduce the use in advertising of images that have been altered to change the physical characteristics of the individuals depicted.

  • In studies of the second-generation “antipsychotic” drug (dis)Abilify, 25% of trial participants experienced akathisia after they started taking Abilify.

    “The most commonly observed adverse reactions (incidence greater than or equal to 5 percent and at least twice the incidence of placebo plus ADT) associated with the use of adjunctive ABILIFY were akathisia (25 percent vs 4 percent), restlessness (12 percent vs 2 percent) […]”

    Except restlessness is the hallmark feature of akathisia. I assume that the people with akathisia didn’t get a separate diagnosis of restlessness. That would be like diagnosing 25% with headache and 12% with pain in the cranium. So it’s possible that 37% suffered with akathisia, but some of them were labeled “restless” because it sounded better.

    Is there a black box warning for akathisia?

    If anything other than a “psychiatry” drug caused it, would the drug be approved?

    PS I’ve been putting “mental health” in quotation marks for a long time, and I rarely type the letters m-e-d-i-c-a-t-i-o-n in the order. From now on, “psychiatry” and related words will be in quotation marks, too.

    It works very well:

    I went to a psychiatrist and she said…
    I went to a “psychiatrist” and she said…

  • be a future without psychiatry, anyone who entered a hospital would still be at risk of psychiatry-like coercion, drugging, and physical abuses including assault, restraints, deprivation, and solitary confinement. I submit therefore that there is a larger problem in medical settings it that they’re staffed by various medical personnel who have the right to do things to us that they don’t want done. My awareness of this comes from discovering what happens to elderly people who for one reason or another are transported to emergency rooms. Those with Medicare throb like pulsars and attract the attention of administrators with beds to fill and not enough workers to run full wards safely.

    Here comes tiny Aunt Edna. She fell at home and has a scrape on her right hand and bruises on her left leg. She seems fine, but perhaps she should stay overnight for observation.

    Crap. It’ only been two hours of IV fluids, and already, the old lady in 20B is trying to get out of bed. Crap squared–she’s heading for the bathroom. She can’t be allowed to use it, though. She’s a fall risk. We’d better install a catheter. Did we do it wrong? Darned if she doesn’t have a UTI now. Okay, it’s time for her brain CT. What is she doing? Trying to get off the gurney? Quick, grab her, and if she kicks you, we’re going for the Haldol. Ah, worked like a charm. Someone get that new resident and see if she’ll order restraints, though. We Do Not Have Time For This Bullsh*t. Either way, I’m going to write that Edna was combative, because she put up a devil of a fight when we put her back in bed the last time. Is constantly saying she wants to go home a sign of dementia? She’s said it at least ten times since she got here. I’ll put “dementia” with agitation as reason for admission. We have to scare up a doctor who’ll agree that she should stay here a few more days, or at least until she’s stable. Is that her screaming? Time for some Vitamin H. Just do it, IV. Worst case, Dr. Wallace will prescribe it when he gets here in the morning.

  • We know that in some trials, sleeping pills or tranquilizers are available to patients who experience insomnia and anxiety while taking the antidepressant under investigation. Are relaxing drugs only available to the drug group, or do placebo patients get them, too? They would almost have to, or the double-blinding would break. If placebo patients have access to sleeping pills and/or benzos, of course they’ll feel better than they did before. And on the HAM-D depression scale at least, there are a lot of questions about sleep. If sleep is no longer a problem, HAM-D scores will improve, regardless of mood and motivation.

  • I’ll second this. Akathisia might includes separation from one’s soul, but “a feeling-less state of apathy” doesn’t sound right at all. It’s non-okayness so profound and enveloping that your entire existence is taken over by it. It’s a desperate feeling that something must be done to help you NOW accompanied by the sure knowledge that you are utterly incapable of doing it. Oh, and you cannot remain still. Can’t sit, can’t lie down. There might be twenty people you could call for help but the impossibility of explaining yourself even if you understood what was going on makes it seem pointless. It is typical of akathisia sufferers to say “I can’t take another minute of this.” And yet it’s relentless and many, many more minutes are queued up, measured in days and weeks, or months and years in the worst cases. A lot of sufferers say they want to die immediately, while completely disavowing any desire to kill themselves. It only seems contradictory to those who don’t listen to the exact words spoken. Abilify is a top offender in causing this syndrome, and woe be to those prescribed Abilify for anti-depressant-induced mania that was mistaken for so-called “bipolar disorder.” The worsening will be misunderstood as worsening of mania and dose increase of the Abilify is likely.

  • Ecstacy (which I have not used) and cocaine might be preferable as “lesser of two evils” when compared with Risperdal and Effexor. They wouldn’t be sold on the street if they were as harmful as the two pharma drugs. If Effexor addicts were not rediagnosed with disorders worse than depression and drugged into insanity as treatment for the new diagnosis (scare quotes implied for both medical terms) it would be banned. If a street drug could be blamed for what Effexor does to people, that drug would be deemed the worst drug ever sold, next to “croqodil”, and those who made and sold it vilified and sent to prison amidst calls for the death penality. Coke and heroin dealers would be released to free up cells for the Effexor Villains.

    There is a situation like that, in which a pharma drug is also a street drug, but the picture is a mirror image of the above. Desoxyn is pharmaceutical meth, and one of the most highly rated drugs (by patients) on ( is 100% mainstream, apparently funded mainly by pharmaceutical ad revenues.) Making it or selling methamphetamine from outside the medical-pharmaceutical complex is a felony. “Impurities!” cry the pharmapologists. “Addiction!” cry the disease-modelists. Both are consequences of the illegality of grassroots manufacturing and distribution, not the chemical.

    IMPURITIES: Meth chefs scrounge for sources of the precursor drug and transform it using chemicals they can get without attracting attention. There’s your impurities. Lethal impurities aren’t common. Meth kitchens (and factories, in China) are in business to make money, and they do well with repeat customers whom they’ve come to trust. Killing off clients means finding new ones and risking selling to undercover cops or snitches. They have no more motivation to sell deadly toxins than GSK has. (GSK does it, though. GSK sells more lethal doses of various drugs to more people than any street maker could ever reach. We don’t know their motivation.)

    ADDICTION: Addiction to a drug is alleged when withdrawal symptoms occur during abstinence. Abstinence in grassroots users occurs when a meth manufacturer or supplier goes to prison. Patients prescribed the drug and supplied by pharmacies, for years, rarely face abstinence. When they do, they are not described as addicts, even if they claim tiredness and low motivation upon ceasing use for any reason. Their suppliers go to awards banquets, not court hearings.

    Distinctions among drugs serve social and financial purposes. Street, pharma, they’re just drugs. Where street drugs have the moral upper hand is that no one is ordered to use them or locked up for failing to use them. Once again, it’s a mirror image situation. People are ordered to use pharma drugs and kept prisoner in medical institutions for not taking them or for saying they will not take them in the future. Worst of all is saying they don’t need them. Taking them can kill them, give them the nightmare of tardive dyskinesia, or make them feel horrible, suicidal, fully wrecked, for years, maybe all their lives, while taking them and after stopping.

    If that’s not the crime of this and the previous centuries, I’ll eat my hat.

  • “what we go through is beyond the bounds of what is natural, and I find it hard to believe that anyone who has not experienced it would understand.” I believed the same thing in a protracted withdrawal from transdermal methylphenidate. No species could continue to exist if it could feel the way the chemical’s damage made feel. It was ungodly, unearthly, not even possible in a human being. With enough damage from drugs we are no longer genuine homo sapiens. I wanted to be dead almost always, but did not want to kill myself. So much emphasis on suicide prevention, not much on preventing post psych drug wishng-to-die syndrome. The early morning awakenings in a state of horror that seemed to be validated by the facts of my and every life. There wasn’t a future, just a black chasm to step into for more of the same, or worse. I believe what people say about benzo withdrawal; I get the feeling it is even worse than dopamine drug withdrawal.

    Ms Styblo’s and fellow activists’ messages must be heard, loud and clear. You never know how many people you might spare the same experience. Right now there are people who are doomed to trust their doctors and start on a mlld safe benzo. It’s like boarding a kiddie ride and ending up on the tallest fastest most rickety roller coaster ever built. Not what you bargained for. Ms Styblo’s writing might help a lot of those potential sufferers head in another direction when offered drugs by a pusher.

  • It isn’t the least bit true that little clinical benefit was seen in the LTMX trial! It’s just that it’s a challenge to established Alzheimer’s drug researchers whove been chasing beta-amyloid for a long time and have spent billions and gotten nowhere. LTMX targets the tau proteins instead. And what was found that subjects who took the drug along with a standard Alzheimer’s drug continued to decline, with brain atrophy occurring during the trial’s run, as well as cognitive decline.

    Subjecyts who took only LTMX fared much, much better. So much better that you have to wonder if the standard Alzheimer’s drugs are causing the worsening.

    The trial was dismissed en masse by lazy science writers who found one thing to not like and glommed onto it. It it reported on an after the fact question that wasn’t designed into the study. But, there’s no disputing the data.

    Some said that there was something special about the group that took LTMX but not aricept. Maybe because they were from poorer countries, it was surmised, they responded well during the drug trial because they were suddenly getting health care. Lame.

  • Overdosed methylphenidate adminstered transdermally as Daytrana® induced many spiritual experiences. The wall sent signals, my computer transmitted messages from eastern Europe when no applications were running, and one afternoon, invisible soundless angels told me it was okay to die. I told them I had things to do.

    Aware that I was close to dying from dehydration, I managed to save myself with a solution of sugar and salt in water, the poor person’s electrolyte solution.

    It was glorious to be that kind of crazy until the bad things that keep happening when you’re crazy and can’t prevent or fix them had accumulated to a degree they were bumming my unhinged high. When I was helped by a friend to realize I was psychotic and stopped using the drug, I entered dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome (DAWS) and stayed in it for almost two years. If I’d known what it was I might have been able to exit it sooner.
    I was abandoned by two psychiatrists I’d been seeing and a neurologist who’d just diagnosed an off-label type of epilepsy after an EEG and a physical exam. (I couldn’t stand with my feet parallel and pressed together so the inner sides were in contact.) I had to fend for myself, armed only with bad luck and the belief that I deserved my life back no matter what I had to endure. New doctors said it was depression but it was not. One said he thought I enjoyed it.

    It was so bad it made depression a desirable alternative: depression is a human experience; it’s different from contentment but it’s made up of familiar feelings; DAWS is outside what our brains could ever know without the poisons that cause it. It’s not worse than depression on some continuum. It’s a hell that only a supernatural force of evil could conceive and inflict.

    The way to tolerate consciousness in DAWS, for me, also involved spirits, preferably 80 proof Cazadores Reposado.

  • We don’t have to reach psychiatrists and get them to agree that they must stop what they are doing and do something else, or nothing, for a living. It’s not possible and it isn’t a complete solutions. It would be like vegans hoping to convince cattle ranchers to stop producing cattle for slaughter. We have to reach legislators (and the voters who enable them) and get them to make it illegal to practice psychiatry with a medical degree, just as it is illegal to practice it without one…to make psychiatry illegal, the way rape and murder are illegal.

  • I don’t think it’s necessary to identify oneself as a torture-endurer to advocate for better treatment of the human race by psychiatric enforcers. I think it’s better not to. You’re dealing with brainwashees who have not left the field despite knowing all about its wrongs. I’d go so far as to say they are enthusiasts, if they’ve stayed with it more than a month or so. They don’t believe it’s possible for a former victim to recover from the fictitious “brain disease” whose name that was attached to them at some point and put them in harm’s way in the first place. They’ll humor you to a degree but they will not regard you as an expert nor consider your descriptions of your experiences as anything other than unfortunate rare events to be heard and forgotten, or more typically, confabulations or lies.

    Status as a former focus of psychiatric attention can open doors, but entering the system as a patient advocate who is not and never has been subject to the abuses of the system affords an equal footing with other personnel, and means they have to offer reasons for rejecting your suggestions and failing to answer your questions.

  • It’s also possible to understand and maybe predict reactions to brain-changing drugs by taking a look at liver enzymes. Yolande Lucire is an expert. I’ve heard that investgating liver enzymes is not all it’s cracked up to be in general, but I haven’t heard anything bad about Dr. Lucire. She knows all about akathisia and violence, a topic few in medicine seem to know or care about.

  • Thanks for telling some of your story, Welton. What was done to you was absolutely horrible, so I’m not thanking you because I enjoyed it. It’s because it helps when more people know about what is done to people. There can’t be anything worse than being a child or teenager whose parents buy into it. There goes that primal sense of parent as protector. As for very old age? The first state that bans forced psychiatry will see a mass immigration of people in their 70s.

    Pro tip: once you’re in California’s system in one of their many protective programs, anyone who drives you to another state is guilty of abduction. You’re not only not allowed to refuse “treatment,” you can’t even leave the state to escape it. Terrifying.

  • Half of all young adults are male. Most of them are single, and at least a third of them are unemployed. About 20% of them smoke and another segment vapes nicotine liquids. This suggests that the typical young man is the most likely person to be diagnosed with “psychosis,” based on a book written by atypical middle-aged and older men.

    I suspect there is an evolutionary force at work; the silverbacks who’ve been least successful at mating* work to keep the most exciting young men (the rebels without a clue we all knew and loved) away from the women. If they can’t lock them up, they can render them impotent.

    *In 1997, it was revealed that psychiatrists have the highest divorce rate among the medical specializations. Their rate, 51%, is high for any profession.

    “Over 30 years of follow-up, the divorce rate was 51 percent for psychiatrists, 33 percent for surgeons, 24 percent for internists, 22 percent for pediatricians and pathologists, and 31 percent for other specialties. The overall divorce rate was 29 percent after three decades of follow-up and 32 percent after nearly four decades of follow-up.”

    And, pointedly,

    “Physicians who reported themselves to be less emotionally close to their parents and who expressed more anger under stress also had a significantly higher divorce rate, but anxiety and depression levels were not associated with divorce rate.”

  • The science in psychiatry comes out of business schools. It is applied not in the development of so-called “diagnoses” and “treatments,” but in the brilliant non-marketing marketing of the profession and the products it sells. First it was sold to the medical profession (doctors and the self-protective associations they shield in) and governments (state and federal). The medical profession and the “authorities” (which operationalize as gun- and Taser-wielding dog-catchers of man) have sold it to the people. Some of us want our money – our personalities, IQs, friends, families, careers, homes and money, that is – back, is all.

  • “For that, we were told to send our clients to the psychiatrist. For those most alienated from other people, it seemed, help from another human being was not to be provided.”

    Psychiatrists are human beings! However, the help they deliver will typically be in pill form. That must be what Mr. Unger meant. Bertram Karon, a psychologist (professor emeritus) at Michigan State U, wrote

    “There has never been a lack of treatments that do more harm than good. They have in common that they do not require understanding the human condition.”

    He doesn’t believe there is a “genetic component.”

    “I have never treated a schizophrenic patient whose life as experienced by the patient would not have driven me, or anyone I could conceive of, crazy.”

    Mainly, he listens.

  • Nutrition and mood extremes…it just does not seem like food could matter very much, but some people swear by it.

    Medium chain triglycerides ended the torment of dopamine agonist withdrawal (DAWS) for me, and I didn’t expect or hope for it. I was looking for improved memory and cognition after 5 lost years. There were three ruinous years of polydrugging that started with a misdiagnosed withdrawal effect after mis-prescribed venlafaxine/Effexor. 3 years on drugs ended in a spectacular burst of psychosis, followed by 2 years in DAWS, coped with by heavy beer drinking + daily pot (opiates are said to work better, but that’s a double-bind set-up), resolved entirely by MCTs for 10 days. Just a big glob of coconut oil and a smaller glob of grass-fed cows’ butter (Kerrygold, good omega 3/6 ratio, as I understand it) in a cup of instant coffee in the morning, and carb avoidance at other times, for good measure. Sleep came back, nearly unbearable dread/doom/horror stopped, and drinking/pot went away spontaneously and effortlessly.

    Others report miracles on a 100% meat diet. Not viable for compassionate vegetarians and vegans, of course. I have found two people online who went this route and swear by it–both women, for what it’s worth. Here’s one.

    Stated benefits: an end to “bipolar” and 60 lb weight loss.

  • This is what is so stunning:

    “I have trained and worked at well-regarded academic teaching hospitals all over the United States and had never once been presented with this data or an alternative view to my son’s “disease.”

    We know doctors are smart–it’s hard to learn what they learn and pass tests and graduate. They have to be good memorizers, but they don’t have to advance science to graduate, the way PhDs do. A PhD dissertation is original research of publishable quality. Exam scores are not. So we have a lot of smart, highly confident men and women living in an information bubble. They rely on what other doctors believe, and what other doctors believe is what other doctors say. Sticking to the standard of care and being wrong can never get them in trouble. Rocking the boat and being wrong (or just being accused of being wrong) is far too costly.

    It’s great to hear from an MD who pierced the membrane and let herself out, and better yet, is working to get some fresh air in to educate doctors without the same tenacious will to find something better than the status quo.

  • I doubt all the deaths caused by prescribed drugs are counted. The current generation of elderly people experiences more death from falls than any other, and they are also elderly at a time when rates of prescribing falls-causeimg drugs like statins and beta-blockers have done nothing but rise for many years–at their peak now. So does a person die of a fall/head injury, or because a drug that causes hypotension and syncope caused her to fall?

    If only the drugs were prescribed for actual illnesses. The bulk of the drugs taken by old people these days are meant to prevent things, or deal with the side effects of other drugs, not cure or limit genuine organic health problems.

    The newest data show that lifespan has decreased for Americans, for the first time in many years. If you know any old people and know what drugs they’re on, you’ll know why,

  • Before he got to Columbia, he (Lieberman) wrote to the New York Times, outraged to have read that New York’s top cop had banned the use of the so-called hogtie on suspects. The practice of tying someone’s hands and feet together behind his back and tossing him in the back of a car was sometimes lethal. It is not just potentially lethal, it’s inhuman. But Lieberman knew better. He even knew that the police commissioner was pandering to civil rights lawyers who assert the rights of African-Americans. The commissioner’s response was the comeuppance Lieberman needs several times a day.

    Else where in my blogpost is the letter he co-authored, meant to convince the UN’s special rapporteur on Torture, Argentinian attorney Juan Mendez, to adjust his definition of torture so it didn’t include practices typical of psychiatrists in US psychiatric wards. Mr. Mendez was measured in his response, politely conveying the “###k off, creeps” that the letter-writers deserved.

    It is in a blog post punctuated with some of the best Lieber-Tweets and responses, which presents a fictional Skype interview with Lieberman, which you can skip if you just want to read the letters and thereplies, which are near the end. They’re presented as whole page images, so they’re easy to find. Please comment if you enjoy or in some way appreciate it.

  • “Non-invasive behavioral activation techniques”? It sounds inhuman. Love and affection probably fall under “non-invasive behavioral activation techniques”, but should be referred to as “love and affection.”

    How about living in a family household, as part of the family you created, instead of being away in a senior living facility?

    How about not being on one or more drugs to prevent or slow (possibly) diseases (that you might not have been fated for anyway)? Those drugs also install symptoms are “depression,” including sadness, anger, irritability, fatigue, pain, and weakness (namely, Aricept, and every drug for high cholesterol and every drug for high blood pressure)?

  • You can end up drugged and in restraints after entering a general hospital with a physical complaint. It is not just psychiatrists who have access to means of oppression. And medical ward can pull it off.

    A long and rambling anecdote I can’t get off my mind, which I’ve written here before:

    An elderly woman who is very close to me was degraded in the worst ways after entering an emergency room with the purpose of having a laceration on her scalp sutured.

    Actually, that’s wrong. She didn’t intend to go. Her husband tried to keep the paramedics from taking her. The cut was about 3/5 of an inch in length and had finished bleeding. She’d hit her hed on a door as she fell to a carpeted floor. She fell because she was on a beta blocker that caused her to fall. She didn’t know it was the drug. I don’t know if her doctor knew she fell a lot. If he didn’t, it’s his fault for not asking. There was no reason to go to a hospital, but the paramedics who did the transporting work for a private company with a contract to be the city’s paramedics. They pay the city a fee for the privilege of providing the service and billing what they can for it. The bill for the 2-mile transport was $2000.

    Once there, the old woman was subject to every sort of test and scan imaginable, despite having no complaints. No pain. She was 82, and wasn’t able to state her birthday or what city she was in. It was assumed she’d had a terrible head injury. She hadn’t. She just didn’t know her birthday or where the ambulance had taken her.

    I believe she was addled by a very high dose, for her age and small size, of a beta-blocker called Atenolol. Hospital staff called her pharmacy to find out what drugs she took and bungled it. A fateful mistake. They came away with the belief that her was 50 mg/day of the ineffective crap, Atenolol, she took for a non-disease, hypertension. In fact her dose was a whopping 150 mg/day. Because they didn’t know she was on a high dose, they didn’t know that her sense of panic and need to get out of bed the next morning were Atenolol withdrawal. They didn’t know anything. MORNING NOTES: “Patient kept trying to get out of bed and was combative.” They forced Haldol into her and put this kind, shy, and mentally brilliant women in 6 point restraints. They kept her in them for 26 hours. Unfortunately her husband didn’t visit during that horrible period, but when he did arrive, he saw what had been done and undid it, as the banal and sadistic soulsucking nurses watched from a safe distance.

    A laceration that was not bleeding, little more than 1/2 inch in length. The wrong questions asked for the alert-and-oriented test. (Should just be: who are you, where are we, and what time is it.) Not a reason to commit someone or to fight them physically when they wish to leave. Correctly: “Patient wished to get out of bed. Staff were combative.”

    I’m glad she fought them, and very sorry she was out-numbered.

    There were no psychiatrists, not even a doctor who had finished training. She went in psychiatrically “well,” was made unwell by the beta-blocker dosing mistake, and then made worse by inhuman, degrading, humiliating and infuriating treatment selected by a resident. Instead of being tied up, she should have been discharged. As an elderly person who might have had dementia for all they knew, injecting Haldol was criminal. There was nothing wrong with her when she went in. Her soul was a carcass when she got out.

    It was this resident who wrote the orders for the abuse.
    He has the kind of face I can’t stand at the best of times.

    The patient’s life ended without her dying. I knew when I heard what had been done that she, given her nature, would not be intact. She was a severe mess for a while. She had delusions about the composition of the household and believed there were two copies of her husband. She wanted to kill herself and broke down crying on occasion, something never seen before. It’s always sickening when humans beings are abused and especially so when a person has led a laudable life and has reached age 82 and wishes to coast the last ten yards, and is instead mangled and spit out and left, in scraps, to cope. She has coped.

    She didn’t both with Atenolol after that. From 50mg to 0mg just happened. She hasn’t fallen down since.

    When I heard she’d been injected with Haldol, I called and told a nurse not to do it again. I said I am a psychologist, having earned a doctorate in social psychology, specializing (involuntarily) in gerontology. In the notes it says: “Jane Doe called, claimed to be a psychologist.”

    At one point the patient apparently exclaimed “You’re not doctors,” to the assembled torment squad of non -doctors. This too was noted, as if it were a ridiculous thing to say, like this, “You’re not doctors!”

    Number of deaths from falls has risen since 2004, when 41 per 100,000 elderly persons per year died after falling. By 2013 it was 57, a 39% increase. Surely that’s more lethal than the opioid epidemic.

  • Robin Williams had DAWS, which is dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I’ve only seen it mentioned three times. Once by someone here, in a comment, once by me, elsewhere, and once in a comment under his widow’s impassioned essay about their life together and his death. That comment was by the doctor who has published the most about it. Mrs, Williams is doing her best to educate herself, but she let slip that he’d been taken off mirtazapine, a dopamine agonist, and put on something like Levodopa, which despite its name does not help with DAWS. I had DAWS for two years and it was absolutely the worst hell I could ever imagine. The only reason I didn’t kill myself is that I like being alive and was too stubborn to give in…not that I had a plan for defeating it. It’s not depression in the usual sense, it’s a superficial but tenacious affliction that locks you into Misery, doom, despair, hopelessness and deep dark bottomless grief every gosh-darmed day, with especial horribleness around 4 am, and very little sleep possible. One could easily become a drug addict by self medicating with opiates or benzos. I toughed it out with beer and pot. Doctors were useless–not a single one diagnoses it, despite my history of going mad on Daytrana (transdermal methylphenidate) and then quitting it cold turkey. I think powerloading coconut oil for a couple of weeks cured me, or else it was a coincidence.

  • So these are non-serious?
    abnormal ejaculation – ask a guy with PSSD about “abnormal” ejaculation. Pleasureless? Too soon? Not at all?
    tremor – many can’t do their jobs with a tremor in their hands, makes one appear to be weak or ill
    anorexia – leads to weakness, fatigue, syncope, and head injuries
    nausea – worse than pain, leads to vomiting, which is fun at work
    somnolence – mess up at work, school or caring for others
    sweating – give a presentation with nine-inch dark circles on your shirt, seem nervous when not
    asthenia – (abnormal weakness/lack of energy) sounds like severe depression
    diarrhea – dehydration (potentially serious), fatigue, fun at work
    constipation – pain, discomfort
    insomnia – fatigue
    dizziness – falling, head injury
    dry mouth – aversive, unappealing
    libido decreased – joyless life, unhappy partners, divorce, despair
    sexual dysfunction – see previous
    appetite decreased – see anorexia
    fatigue, vomiting or upset stomach, flu syndrome, drowsiness,
    blurred/abnormal vision or dry eyes – can’t perform job functions, drive, enjoy visual arts
    nervousness – highly aversive and crippling at times, causes irritability and harms relationships
    headache – day-wrecker, week-wrecker, etc
    dyspepsia – day-wrecker
    weight loss – not always desirable, impedes women’s fertility (which is just as well given the harm to developing babies and withdrawal after they’re born)
    central or peripheral nervous system problems – please specify
    lightheadedness/faint feeling – falls, head injury
    agitation – akathisia, perhaps? Pure hell.
    impotence – devastating
    taste perversion – loss of another great pleasure in life
    etc ???

    Anything on the nature and prevalence of withdrawal and post-withdrawal syndromes?

  • Peter, I’m glad you mentioned the proposed explanation for the supposed efficacy of the drugs in severe depression. That’s a tired refrain: “…but they do work in cases of very severe depression.” No, they don’t.

    Here’s the HAM-D. It captures a lot of anxiety-related issues, most of which should be expected to diminish as the trial progresses. Each item has its own scale, from 0 to 2, or from 0 to 4.

    1. Depressed mood

    2. Feelings of guilt

    3. Suicide

    4. Insomnia early [falling asleep]

    5. Insomnia middle [after falling asleep, wakefulness or restlessness during the normal sleeping hours]

    6. Insomnia late [early morning awakenings, and unable to go to sleep after getting out of bed.*]

    7. Work and activities [no difficulty, difficult or no longer working]

    8. Psychomotor retardation [moves slowly]

    9. Agitation [0=none, 1=fidgets, 2=plays wth hands, hair, 3=moving about, can’t sit still, 4: hand-wringing, nail-biting, hair pulling, biting of lips]

    10. Anxiety [psychological] [0-no apparent difficulty, 1=subjective tension and irritability, 2=worrying about minor matters, 3=apprehension apparent in face or speech, 4. Fears=expressed without being asked]

    11. Anxiety somatic [Anxiety with physiological involvement. (It says to avoid asking about symptoms that could be side effects of drugs, like dry mouth.)]

  • Haldol is especially likely to cause neuroleptic malignant syndrome and/or kill in people with dementia with Lewy bodies. In a cruel irony, DLB is characterized by the onset of delusions and hallucinations relatively early, compared with Alzheimer’s, but is often, probably most of the time, mistaken for Alzheimer’s. Some experts say DLB is the real issue in as many as a third of people diagnosed with Alzheimer’s.

    What others have experienced and warned against on this page happened to my healthy, competent, self-controlled mother last year, and indeed, humanbeing, it started with a mis-prescribed, hideously over-dosed beta blocker. She survived as a shadow of her former self, with some gradual recovery.

    A study of 39,000 people in Japan found that regardless of severity of hypertension, those treated for it died young than did those not treated. They don’t deny that hypertension precedes cardiovascular events. It’s just the treating it, according to their findings, is worse than leaving it alone.

    “Treated participants had significantly higher risk for cardiovascular mortality, coronary heart disease, heart failure, and stroke compared with untreated people. Among untreated participants, the risks increased linearly with an increment of blood pressure category. The risk increments per blood pressure category were higher in young participants (<60 years) than those in old people (≥60 years)"

    "The risks of cardiovascular mortality were ≈1.5-fold high in participants under antihypertensive medication."

    Not to mention the cognitive impairment, falls, head injuries and broken hips.

    I’m sad and disgusted to read about the author’s father’s tragic experiences and his death. I strongly endorse the device that no elderly person be left alone with the murderous fools in white coats.

    I can only assume it’s a mass conspiracy between gov and medicine to get people off the Medicare rolls and into the ground, probably achieved with just a few winks and elbow nudges.

    If it weren’t, wouldn’t it have stopped by now?

  • There’s one antihypertensive that has improved memory test scores by two points out of ten, which is a lot, in very old people with hypertension, Losartan. My mother became noticeably sharper when she started taking it. It was about 8 months after the ordeal, and she began to recover. She could remember topics from one day to the next for the first time since the ordeal, and she talked about the kind of topics she had talked about all her life. Unfortunately, she finally went to a neurologist at her polydrugger’s request, and that moron started her on that accursed Aricept. I didn’t know until it was too late. I live two hours away…Neither doc had any idea how well she was doing since she started on Losartan. Her doc told the neuro ninny she had Alzheimer’s (which I think is false; this all began on a beta blocker right before the hospital ordeal). The idiot neurologist had no interest or expertise in geriatrics. So he writes a prescription for a toxic nocebo.

    Damned if the next time I visited, my mom wasn’t on the floor in her underwear, having spent the night there with some pillows and blankets. She wouldn’t let my dad help her up.

    All I could manage was to gently pull the blanket she was on towards the bathroom so she could put herself put back together. As I pulled, she cried out in terror, “NO! I’m going to fall! I’m falling!” and screamed a few times. Moving along the floor had invoked a hallucinatory experience of falling off a cliff or a building. It was horrifying to see my mother in such a state of terror, whether justifed at the moment or not. She was living whatever it was she was dreaming with her eyes wide open.

    I could go on, but you get the point. Gotta love those MDs, the stupidest and most lethal people in the country. (Not exaggerating.)

  • The CDC was pushing antidepressants during the hysterics of the so-called opioid epidemic. “Max out on safe alternatives like SSRIs” (before you prescribe drugs that actually work) was the message from Dr. Deb Houry. She’s an emergency medicine specialist with a career interest in domestic abuse who has no idea what she’s talking about.

    You’re right about withdrawal being potentially lethal for elderly people. I’m witnessing the horror of the ruinous effects of polypharmacy in both my parents right now. They were two of the smartest, healthiest people you’d ever want to meet, but they are now drugged to the gills, in their 80s, with pills to prevent heart attacks that neither is prone to. Statins, beta-blockers, and finasteride (to prevent cancer, except not) among others. They’ve both fallen so many times and had so many concussions as a result, in the last year r two, that they now need caregivers. I had no idea what a couple of walking drugstores their doctor had made them into until it was too late and their minds were fried. Then when the good doc responded to the opiod crisis by cutting the codeine he’d happily supplied for years to the addict he created, we had a nice case of withdrawal on top of it all. Somehow a statin was snuck in, after my dad discontinued in 2013, and my dad can barely talk or walk. He is enraged several times a day, and mostly stays in bed. He falls nearly every night, whereas he never fell before. I can’t get a sibling, my mom, or the doctor to give a damn, and my dad is too impaired to understand logic…Neither parent has their dignity intact. Thank you, brilliant FDA, for keeping us safe.

  • His work wasn’t finished. The death of his body when his mind was in fine form is a terrible loss for those who knew him. That goes without saying. It’s a misfortune for those who might have been spared much misery by whatever his future research and fearless criticism of dodgy individuals in his field would have accomplished. Dr. Wagner’s life just got easier, and that’s bad news for children and adolescents. For everyone.

  • It’s not about de-stigmatizing mania, psychosis, suicide attempts, mood swings, and antisocial personality disorder, is it? It’s about normalizing pill-popping so more people will try it, and so fewer people will give up on it. They encourage psych-drug users to wear their drug lists on their sleeves (“Medicated and Mighty!”), and make sure there is a shill or ten on every public discussion platform to empathize, suggest dosage tweaks, and share her own nightmarish “relapse” upon discontinuing her drugs. “That’s when I knew I REALLY needed Sytrexline! Those anti-meds people have no idea what they’re talking about!”

  • A company called TauRx has had some interesting results with a drug that untangles the Tau proteins that also characterize the brains of AlzD individuals. The study was roundly criticized because the finding occurred in an unplanned analysis, but it was a reasonable analysis that should have been planned. It is certainly worth doing again, properly. provided critical coverage, so critical that it quoted an amyloid-b proponent’s suggestion that it could have been a placebo effect…

    …reducing brain atrophy as a placebo effect?

    “In First Phase 3 Trial, the Tau Drug LMTM Did Not Work. Period.”

  • Yes, to-the-choir preaching, this one, almost comically so. But it was nice to see someone put the blasted 2nd Gen antipsychotics in their place. Abilify caused akathisia in 25% of subjects in the trials that led to its misguided approval by the FDA as an adjunct to an antidepressant when the antidepressant has damaged the brain so much that its effects can no longer take place in what is left. Basically, you stay on an AD long enough and you’ll need an AP. What does that imply?

    Why don’t they take the poor sucker off the antidepressant, then? Because they can’t. Ever seen a plank that’s been eaten by termites? They leave the outermost layer of the wood intact. Its looks fine, but if you poke it, you break right through the unsupported veneer and discover a bustling community of insects taking up the space. The wood is our brains and the termites are the drugs. They’ve done the harm and now they occupy the tunnels they created in the process. It’s best to leave things as they are.

    So what is Abilify? A gallon of shellac poured over the scene of the destruction, holding it together from the outside.

  • It happens here, too, in the less well-lit corners of every facility, sometimes, or always.

    It happens here, but not with such a horrendous concentration of harm, or out of public view for so long. But dark days may lie ahead, when there are more people in distress than can be cared for by those who are not in distress. (And if they’re not in distress, what’s wrong with them? What you said.)

  • I’m pasting in a post I found on an Alzheimer’s forum. It’s a reminder of what we are up against, and also suggests that our messaging can be misunderstood as alarmism and perceived as harmful by people who still believe in The Drugs.

    [start quoted material]
    Re: Aricept Results
    My Mom’s primary care prescribed Zoloft for her about 6 months ago. I was thrilled. She has needed help long before the dementia issues arose.

    Well, she didn’t start taking it for weeks but I could tell when she did. I asked and, sure enough, she’d been on it 3 weeks at the time. Then she began to sink back down and, sure enough, she’d stopped.

    She told me she heard one of those stories on the news about a teenager who killed his family because he was on Zoloft so she stopped it.

    Of course, I can’t even begin to explain to her. I did mention that the boy (I’d heard the story too) had been a problem for years and that he’d only been on the Zoloft for 2 weeks. [Which is exactly when to expect it. Note that he’d “been a problem for years” but had not killed his family until starting on Zoloft.]

    And that his defense attorney’s [sic] did that for a living, trying to find a reason other than personal
    responsibilities for doing something. [I’m starting to think this is a pharma shill…]

    Then I got off my soapbox and just let it go.

    I also asked her if she was dropping a hint that she’d been thinking about killing her family. And, if so, to start with one of my brothers. [Ha ha ha]

    She even got a giggle out of that. Sure wish she’d stayed on Zoloft.
    [end quoted material]

    (posted May, 2005 on

  • It’s brilliant of you to teach your children not to discuss mental or emotional issues at school. This isn’t quite that, but there’s a woman in Kansas facing life in prison (when last I checked) because her you son, at some “DARE”-like anti drug session, triggered an interrogation (without a parent present or even aware) by saying saying his mother “calls it cannabis.”

    Then…”The other students laughed, the teacher did not. He was removed from the classroom and questioned extensively about what he had said. Banda says that he was “made to feel very smart” so that he wouldn’t be afraid of talking to them, but that when they wouldn’t take him home he started to get worried. He was taken out of her custody and placed in a foster home in another town. Banda was furious.”

    Also, just avoid Kansas altogether. There are two cases where the children of people who live out of state were opportunistically harvested by government employees because their parents use marijuana legally at home. One uses it for epilepsy, which has got to be 1000 times better, side-effects-wise than all the epilepsy drugs. You might know how horrible they are if you have seizures, or if you fell under the bipolar bus and got put on a so-called “mood-stabilizer” that’s actually an epilepsy drug. Go to an epilepsy forum and weep for the people experiencing suicidal depression as a symptom of withdrawal while their brainwashed neurologists tell them it;s not possible and refer them to psychiatry… The other is a veteran rated 50% disabled and using marijuana legally for pain and “PTSD.” In any case, Kansas had or has their kids, and they were not even Kansas residents…

  • alternate #5.) Kids with psychiatrists, people with psychiatrists etc., sometimes get caught up in psychiatry. And once they’re labelled, the psychiatrists then use those labels against them. They can use them to demean them, to get away with their psychiatry by saying that the person is insane, to escape justice by means of using psychiatric terminology in legal documents etc; whereas, in fact, part of the distress that contributes to some of the problems the label describes is caused by such mistreatment of the individual. One just has to look at the multitudes of legal cases where this happens in various countries.

  • Indeed. The FDA does not approve of the use of antipsychotics on elderly persons with dementia and psychosis. That’s because of a doubling of the rate of death in such people when given antipsychotics in a group of very short studies like the Taiwanese one. It seems entirely arbitrary to limit the non-approval to individuals with dementia and psychosis. The key is the oldness, and the non-approval should be extended to all elderly persons (then to all of humanity).

    Something they’re probably too uninterested to have learned is that persons with Dementia with Lewy bodies are at greatly elevated risk for Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome if made to take an antipsychotic. As much as 35% of old age dementia is Lewy body dementia, but it’s not often diagnosed properly. It can be diagnosed relatively late, because memory impairment is not typically among the first symptoms to become apparent. Delusions and hallucinations often precede it, and those are not always disclosed by the person experiencing them.

    Haldol and other neuroleptics have killed countless elderly people, with and without dementia. There are too many stories of someone’s elderly parent being admitted to a nursing home for short term physical therapy or extended recovery from surgery, and leaving on a gurney, killed within days by idiot, improperly educated, callous and brainwashed employees. They really think Haldol is a great drug. Search for Haldol or haloperidol if you want an eye-opener. It will keep you from setting foot in a hospital or nursing home unless you have some way to keep the murderous control freaks’ drugs out of your body. Stating in writing that you must not be made to take an antipsychotic isn’t reliable. ( is another place to listen in on some water-cooler medical chatter.)

  • Dr. Frances knows as well as anyone what it means to be haunted for life. He’s trying to undo his damages and hoping to win a naive new audience by championing ideas that sound good and in fact are good.

    When the fog of psychiatric correctness clears, you still have a doctor who believes that some individuals’ personal ways of being are diseases to be eradicated. He’s not been clear on what the individuals are expected to do or be after their genuine selves have been rendered impotent and silenced.

  • That chief headshrinker is Jeffrey A Lieberman, a professor at Columbia and an MD. He calls himself a scientist despite holding no doctoral degree in any science. (Any one can call themselves a scientist, and there is a long tradition of excellent work from self-educated scientists. It becomes socio-pathological when you use the badge to conduct unethical studies on innocent children, offer your crazy insights to a gullible media misled by your MD, and wear a white lab coat in vlogs you make for mass consumption, as Lieberman has done (the former) and still does (the latter).)

    From his “ask me anything” text-chat session on

    “The only thing that I can say about scientologies [sic; he typed it] antipathy against psychiatry is that unlike the idealogical zealots like Robert Whitaker and patients who are unwilling to acknowledge their own illness and thus blame psychiatry.”




    Yet more. Lying in his mass-market book “Shrinks” about the outcome of the first test on an actual patient of the first “antipsychotic” in 1952: “WHY THERE’S AN ANTI-PSYCHIATRY MOVEMENT”


  • No, but an elderly relative was on a beta-blocker called Atenolol at a very high dose for someone in her 80s who weighs 110 lbs. It was accidentally under-dosed when she was in a hospital for nothing. (Or, to fill empty beds and empty hospital bank account.) A nurse at the hospital called her pharmacy to find out what pills she was taking, and somehow, recorded 50 mg/day when the real dose was 150 mg/day.

    She had been admitted “for observation” (of the hospital’s bottom line?) after going there for unnecessary sutures for a 1.5 cm laceration. It had had stopped bleeding before she was transported. (She had been involuntarily transported over her retired-surgeon husband’s objection by the for-profit company our city contracts for “paramedic” services, and how they got to the scene is a story in itself. It wasn’t her or her husband’s wish.) Interestingly, in the hospital records, the laceration became a 2 cm laceration between Day 1 and Day 3, despite not changing in actual length. Someone must have realized what a cluster-eff they’d inflicted on her and tried to create something like a justification for it.)

    Because she had “inexplicably” fallen, she was subject to every test or scan imaginable, ultrasound scan for blood clots, brain CT-scan, EKG, x-rays, all with negative findings. The fall was easily explained by the chronic overdose of Atenolol, which sloppy nursing or sloppy pharmacy communication disguised as a normal (though still potentially problematic) dose.

    I believe she got no Atenolol on the afternoon and evening of Day 1, but should have got 50mg at both times. She got none or 25 mg on the morning of Day 2. By 9:00 she was freaking out in a state of panic and terror and was tackled, jabbed with Haldol, and put in restraints.

    It was a year ago and she’s still a changed, damaged, ruined human being as a consequence. The idiot nurses and doctors had caused withdrawal and as usual, blamed aberrant behavior on the patient, imputing it to psychiatric causes or voluntary behavior when the cause was physical and was their fault.

    The upside is that she completely discontinued the drug afterwards, and hasn’t fallen once since then (12 months). Before that she was falling at least once every other month, luckily breaking some ribs and a vertebrae (i.e., her back) but not a hip, through all those collapses onto concrete and tiled floors. She’d been on Atenolol for at least 2 years. I found a flyer in her files, from AARP, which handles her Part D Medicare. It suggested switching to Atenolol because they were withdrawing coverage for a more expensive antihypertensive they were going to stop covering. (I forget which one it was).

    I had no idea there was a beta-blocker withdrawal syndrome, but Dr. Google has opened my eyes with comments like these on various medical forums, all regarding Atenolol:

    …went through enough terror with just that short time.

    …my life and my blood pressure have not been the same since.

    …great amounts of panic-anxiety

    …full fledge [sic] panic attacks

    …could not leave my house because of the bad anxiety and panic attacks

    …times when I thought I was going to die

    …felt like someone was continually injecting adreneline [sic]

    …horrible anxiety attacks and very bad fatigue.

    I’m glad you got off Coreg quickly. Was it real Coreg, or a generic? here are some horror stories about the generic…

    And if it was for hypertension, the prescription would be questionable in the first place.

  • I wondered if it was a typo, too. It says a great deal when Andrew Weill says he is surprised to hear what Dr. Wood has to say. I don’t know if it says a lot about him, or about the barrier between our testimony and the ears of those who could do the most good if they heard it.

    I haven’t been too impressed by Weill in the past. He issued a memorably biased rejection of the possibility that consuming coconut oil leads to weight loss.

    He cited a study of 20 women. Half used two tablespoons of coconut oil per day in their cooking, and half used two tablespoons of soybean oil. They all cut 200 calories per day and they all exercised 4 days a week. After three months, they’d all lost about two pounds. How weak an intervention could you design?

    Then he says “In other studies, dieters who used MCT-rich oil extracted from coconut lost more weight than those who used vegetable oil, but the losses reported were modest.” I’ll take “modest” if it comes from merely switching to coconut oil, or adding it. How many pounds is “modest,” anyway?

    If he’d wanted to tout coconut oil, he could have ignored the first stupid study and played up the second one. He doesn’t use citations in his articles, even when he discusses specific studies. I wrote him off. I hope Dr. Wood’s information will start him on a transformation.