B….Thank you. And yes. Frequently there is nothing wrong with us more than the circumstances folks have to live with. Yes! You just shared one of my favorite quotes…. Psychiatry is built on shaky legs, indeed.
I hear you, and you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
While there is no right and no wrong in an individuals process (that was the context of the comment), folks certainly do post things in an attempt to trigger and incite un-needed controversy.
Hear you, and sending good wishes. I think there are some things in life that are simply a mystery—-and that can be frustrating as all get out. I am so sorry to hear of your suffering. I would be curious if anyone has explored a somatic (body based) angle on this , because for me, the somatic and spiritual perspective together were the only things that worked, AND going to a medical intuitive (not in this article) at one point I was on 20 plus supplements together to set things right, plus going to two different healers/therapists, changing my diet, and doing yoga daily. So it took a precise combination of things over years for this to clear out. The point being, the way we are constructed can be a messy tangle indeed, and sometimes its like picking a lock with a very precise combination to “un-stick ” it. While I have no answers, I wish you lots of ease and grace and send hopes that it might get easier for you.
You are most welcome. Sending you warmth and good wishes on your own journey! I wish I had said this more in the article, but for me, body based practices (eg certain forms of yoga) were key for helping to dissolve this too. Warm wishes to you!
Hi there—yes, thank you for resting with me in this key truth. And exactly…the better we understand the divine, the better we understand ourselves…”Thou art that..” I’ve heard of all of the folks you mentioned and have read….none of them, and looking forwards to adding them to my list! My understanding comes almost from the opposite end- not from any direct expose of psychiatry, per se, but from direct experiences wih embodiment and divinity. Best wishes to you.
Mary Anne,
Thank you for the courage, beauty, strength, and honesty with your reply.
One…there is no right and there is no wrong. We all need to honor ourselves in the ways we can. I went through this journey mostly on my own, while a student, and working part time, so I can only imagine the intensity with children and jobs. My heart goes out to you, beloved.
You’re doing so many wonderful things for yourself with yoga, activity (yoga has been HUGE for me in this, although I don’t talk about it much here, I am a long term 15 year practitioner and yoga teacher too), the body work/touch work (yup, a part of my process and training too), reading. Beautiful, and hugs.
I’d really welcome opening a 1-1 dialogue with you over email, phone, or skype if you wished. I would be honored to connect in whatever capacity felt right. (email: [email protected])
Hi there. Hmm, the point I’m trying to make is that the idea of madness, as a *whole* is problematic and socially constructed. Of course, there are some folks whose manifestation is more extreme than others. The question I personally have about that is WHY?? If someone is “insane” (to use your word)…I would personally be curious about origins…eg…rooted in trauma? Ancestral patterns? Physiological issues that could be helped with extreme holistic care? Of course some folks are way more extreme than others and get a different label- and—my curiousity is whats really going on underneath all the manifestations? (and if we know, and work with that, do the manifestations change?). Hope thats helpful. Asherah
Hi there…Sorry for the intensity you’ve been through. Sending lots of good thoughts your way. I feel like you are trying to make an important point here? And somehow I’m missing it? Here if you wanna try again… And yes, madness and extreme states are sometimes different (and sometimes the same). And its important to differentiate that they are not always the same thing . However, my curiousity is —is what society calls madness an extension or continuation of extreme states? Hoping thats helpful. A lot of what is socially called madness is extreme states, and a lot of madness *could be* trauma induced extreme states ignored and discounted for too long. Thats where I am at, and hoping its helpful. Asherah
Alex, thank you. Lets run towards truth and take the risk of becoming more ourselves (collectively and individually) , shall we??? And yes- the world does change when we see ourselves as we really are. Thanks for reading this and being on this ride with me. I’m curious for you (since you speak to our spiritual nature) what that means for you, personally? As I am aware we all have our own perspectives. Lots of good thoughts! Asherah
Hi there….Thank you. And sending many good thoughts and blessing your way. YES!!! the absence or de-valutation of the divine feminine, the mother, is a part of many imbalances , from all the points you make , to environmental destruction and certain types of trauma. Asherah is indeed the ife of god —so hello, El! Not my birth name, but , a part of the journey. I appreciate you in who you are, and in your true name. And I am so sorry for what you went through. Lots of love, and lots of embracing truth! Asherah
Hi Rossa-
Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts. I want to add, that in addition to shamanistic, my journey (and work with clients) also greatly focus on somatics, or how the body holds process. And yes—- I totally agree with Longden and Laing!! Your wording is beautiful . I especially appreciate …”what is within our grasp if only we clear away the confusion that life has imposed on us.” YES! with good thoughts, Asherah
B….Thank you. And yes. Frequently there is nothing wrong with us more than the circumstances folks have to live with. Yes! You just shared one of my favorite quotes…. Psychiatry is built on shaky legs, indeed.
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Alex: 🙂 My pleasure.
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I hear you, and you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
While there is no right and no wrong in an individuals process (that was the context of the comment), folks certainly do post things in an attempt to trigger and incite un-needed controversy.
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Hear you, and sending good wishes. I think there are some things in life that are simply a mystery—-and that can be frustrating as all get out. I am so sorry to hear of your suffering. I would be curious if anyone has explored a somatic (body based) angle on this , because for me, the somatic and spiritual perspective together were the only things that worked, AND going to a medical intuitive (not in this article) at one point I was on 20 plus supplements together to set things right, plus going to two different healers/therapists, changing my diet, and doing yoga daily. So it took a precise combination of things over years for this to clear out. The point being, the way we are constructed can be a messy tangle indeed, and sometimes its like picking a lock with a very precise combination to “un-stick ” it. While I have no answers, I wish you lots of ease and grace and send hopes that it might get easier for you.
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You are most welcome. Sending you warmth and good wishes on your own journey! I wish I had said this more in the article, but for me, body based practices (eg certain forms of yoga) were key for helping to dissolve this too. Warm wishes to you!
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Hi there—yes, thank you for resting with me in this key truth. And exactly…the better we understand the divine, the better we understand ourselves…”Thou art that..” I’ve heard of all of the folks you mentioned and have read….none of them, and looking forwards to adding them to my list! My understanding comes almost from the opposite end- not from any direct expose of psychiatry, per se, but from direct experiences wih embodiment and divinity. Best wishes to you.
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Michael! Aww….much appreciated. Thank *you* so much for your suggestions and friendship. Warmly, Asherah
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Mary Anne,
Thank you for the courage, beauty, strength, and honesty with your reply.
One…there is no right and there is no wrong. We all need to honor ourselves in the ways we can. I went through this journey mostly on my own, while a student, and working part time, so I can only imagine the intensity with children and jobs. My heart goes out to you, beloved.
You’re doing so many wonderful things for yourself with yoga, activity (yoga has been HUGE for me in this, although I don’t talk about it much here, I am a long term 15 year practitioner and yoga teacher too), the body work/touch work (yup, a part of my process and training too), reading. Beautiful, and hugs.
I’d really welcome opening a 1-1 dialogue with you over email, phone, or skype if you wished. I would be honored to connect in whatever capacity felt right. (email: [email protected])
with love,
Asherah
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Hi there. Hmm, the point I’m trying to make is that the idea of madness, as a *whole* is problematic and socially constructed. Of course, there are some folks whose manifestation is more extreme than others. The question I personally have about that is WHY?? If someone is “insane” (to use your word)…I would personally be curious about origins…eg…rooted in trauma? Ancestral patterns? Physiological issues that could be helped with extreme holistic care? Of course some folks are way more extreme than others and get a different label- and—my curiousity is whats really going on underneath all the manifestations? (and if we know, and work with that, do the manifestations change?). Hope thats helpful. Asherah
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Hi there…Sorry for the intensity you’ve been through. Sending lots of good thoughts your way. I feel like you are trying to make an important point here? And somehow I’m missing it? Here if you wanna try again… And yes, madness and extreme states are sometimes different (and sometimes the same). And its important to differentiate that they are not always the same thing . However, my curiousity is —is what society calls madness an extension or continuation of extreme states? Hoping thats helpful. A lot of what is socially called madness is extreme states, and a lot of madness *could be* trauma induced extreme states ignored and discounted for too long. Thats where I am at, and hoping its helpful. Asherah
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Hi there-
Thank you for acknowledging this important point. Yes, yes, yes. Would be curious if you had any relevant links to share with folks? Asherah
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Alex, thank you. Lets run towards truth and take the risk of becoming more ourselves (collectively and individually) , shall we??? And yes- the world does change when we see ourselves as we really are. Thanks for reading this and being on this ride with me. I’m curious for you (since you speak to our spiritual nature) what that means for you, personally? As I am aware we all have our own perspectives. Lots of good thoughts! Asherah
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Hi there….Thank you. And sending many good thoughts and blessing your way. YES!!! the absence or de-valutation of the divine feminine, the mother, is a part of many imbalances , from all the points you make , to environmental destruction and certain types of trauma. Asherah is indeed the ife of god —so hello, El! Not my birth name, but , a part of the journey. I appreciate you in who you are, and in your true name. And I am so sorry for what you went through. Lots of love, and lots of embracing truth! Asherah
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Hi Rossa-
Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts. I want to add, that in addition to shamanistic, my journey (and work with clients) also greatly focus on somatics, or how the body holds process. And yes—- I totally agree with Longden and Laing!! Your wording is beautiful . I especially appreciate …”what is within our grasp if only we clear away the confusion that life has imposed on us.” YES! with good thoughts, Asherah
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