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Hi, Jules Evans. I understand from what you said that you do not do what you do out of greed or desire for power over other people. I looked at your website which seems to back up your statements, which I understand as this; you are a person, an individual, who felt that CBT helped you therapeutically, as did the study and practice of Philosophy. I can see why you feel unjustly accused of acting out of impure motivation. I think I agree with you about that, at least with the information I have.
At the same time, I have been treated with CBT, and do not like it. Perhaps my experience of it was different with respect to my mental health diagnoses and the way a therapist might have treated me as opposed to someone (I am assuming at my own risk) who may not have been diagnosed with a major mental health problem. Maybe I am just from a different school of thought that would not be as much in accord with CBT, or what you yourself believe as an individual. More specifically, it was not what I was looking for in a treatment modality. I was not looking for someone to tell me that I feel the emotions that I experience because I have false beliefs originating in my past and having little to no relation to my present, and that in order to be “helped” I needed to submit to allowing my beliefs to be replaced by a more “positive” system. Because if I am blue because the sky is blue, then maybe if I thought it was yellow I’d feel better, and for that reason alone, I should think so, in order to achieve one of my goals (to be happy). My problem with that had to do with the concept I have of an objective truth, as well as the positive beliefs not being based on postive evidence, and my own current “negative” beliefs not being conclusively proven false in my own mind. It felt like a form of brainwashing to me.
Which is one of my reasons for liking Jay’s article so much. Perhaps if she had stuck to attacking a philosophical/psycho-therapeutic system rather than improperly characterising any undeserving people in a villanous way it would have been better not to presume with regard to the motivations of others. However, as someone who has experienced injury as a direct result of c0erced psychiatric treatment (not necessarily CBT alone) I still see her as being helpful to me in my search for understanding of my own experiences.
Hi! My name is Mylene, and I have some thoughts I’d like to express about what I’ve read thus far of the article by Dr. Bracken. I didn’t read the whole article, basically just the introduction, because I have an issue with concentrating on extensive reading materials. I read some comments, also.
I do think that the profession of psychiatry is still necessary so that psychiatrists, who have the training and knowledge, to help people withdraw safely from psyciatric medication, can do so. Part of the reason I haven’t is the complicated process of “tapering off”. I’m on all prescribed meds now, and have been for over 15 years and I just don’t have the ability to do it by myself. It seems to me that in today’s world, if all the people suddenly realized that we made big mistakes in our treatment of the mentally ill, myself included in the latter, that we would still need trained professionals to clean up the mess the psychiatric profession has made. At least that would be an extremely helpful and valuable service to me in my life.
Also, Dr. Bracken made a good point about the somatic differences associated with so-called “‘abnormal’ mental states/conditions” (not the words he used) and how a profession which has both medical and psychological training could be beneficial to those who are affected by somatic symptoms, as well as psychological/mental symptoms.
They could also be helpful in re-educating the public by exposing themselves for what they have been, perpetually deceiving and lying the public and sometimes themselves and each other about the pharmaceuticals they push on us, while telling us we need lots of drugs in order to live a “more normal life and function in society”. They could be part of the process of our healing and journey toward health and worldly fulfillment rather than what they have been, which for now is still part our problems.
I don’t think this society is anywhere near making even that much of a breakthrough in its mental attitude towards the mentally ill; and changes of this nature don’t seem to happen instantaneously, to say the least. Social changes are notoriously slow, from what I understand. Although the times are changing, there are still too many conservative politicians, conservative voters, and too deeply and extremely conservative of both types to be dead set on a world of no psychiatrists to happen at the snap of a finger. Right now is what it is, we are not even close to that, and I have great respect for anyone who wants to bring positive change closer to this current reality.
I would also like to add that I don’t care what exists as long as no one is forced to be subjected to it. However, knowing what I know now is possible for psyciatry to have ac tuallly become, and the ignorance so prevalent in so–called “free” society, I would prefer to be forcibly subjected to kindness than cruelty, if I was only given those two choices with regard to my “treatment”. I want to think that Our Story is inching closer to freedom for all rather than extinction for all. Unfortunately, I think those are the only two options at this time.
I’ve been rambling, but in conclusion I’m going to say that Dr. Bracken seems to be working to bring people closer to freedom rather than to certain destruction, and I felt motivated to respond basically more to some of the comments than the article itself.
Thank you, Bonnie Burstow, Ph.D for writing this book, and Phillip Hickey, Ph.D for letting me know about it on Mad in America. This would be a great article to share with my mom, who does not trust my experientially-based feelings about psychiatric medications or psychiatry in general and who seems to trust my psychiatrist’ beliefs more. I don’t know if I could convince her to read this, as she does not like to read, and she especially may not want to read an opposing opinion to my “Doctor’s,” but if I could get her to read it it may be of so much value to me in helping her to understand where I am coming from, as I have failed in that regard. I’m not good at facts. I’m not particularly interested in them, and I’m even worse at retaining knowledge of them. The fact that you are a Ph.D and wrote a well-researched and scholarly book about this subject, coming from a different perspective from mainsream Psychiatry would do a lot toward prying open her brain to consideration of what I consider my own truth/reality, and maybe start a change for me. (I’m on meds, and I’ve always lived with her).