Yes Bradford is on to it.I agree with David Clark that service users should be able to access outcome data of clinicians – but David Clark is producing dodgy outcome statistics. In a parallel with the drug companies, Clark is not independent from the outcomes he’s reporting – and indeed it is very difficult to get someone who is. MJ Scott – ‘IAPT the need for radical reform’ – JHealthPsychology, 2018, 23(9) 1136-1147 is one of the rare individuals standing apart from the IAPT making comment. Scott Miller and Barry Duncan have been producing outcome informed therapy articles for nearly 20 years – their measures are simple, fit for purpose (unlike the IAPT tools), etc. Bruce Wampold even delivered a key note at the IAPT conference pointing out that the NICE guidelines are tram tracks hampering effective therapy. There is bad politics in IAPT, showing that psychologists are just as prone to institutional corruption as the psychiatrists are.