Friday, July 30, 2021

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  • Archetypal psychology may have its issues, but liberation psychology sounds somewhat Marxist. When I think of liberation psychology, like liberation theology, I see a picture of Fidel Castro in my mind. Perhaps, my understanding of this is incorrect or at least in considering psychology, there can be no such thing as liberation psychology, because it is nothing but an oxymoron. The only way to be liberated, to be free is to be liberated and free from psychology. I can say this because I was foolhardy enough to obtain a degree in psychology and then get swept up in the psych world of psych drugs and therapies and all that evil that goes with it. What seems to be happening as all this psych world goes mainstream is that we now celebrate mental health/mental illness as pinnacles of success, standards of character, etc. We have lost our way. We have lost who we are as a people, as individuals. And much of this is owed to the great big lie of psychology. You can not be liberated through psychology; you can only be enslaved and imprisoned. And, in the story of the prisoner in the jail, who saw the stars and the sun outside from his prison cell, while his prison roommate saw the dirt and stench on the floor , we become not the prisoner who saw the stars and the sun outside, but the dirt and stench on the floor. If you seem to have similar thoughts as the latter prisoner, well, thank psychology. Thank you.

  • Perhaps one of the biggest mistakes ever made is to “psychologize” everything from disasters to economic changes to even life’s changes. On the whole, this does cause unnecessary health issues and even premature death. It also causes people to look at their life history as a series of self-medicating adventures. It is one of the lies of psychology that if there is any resilience; it is disrupted. One is unable to see how one has coped in the past and despite. say, the alcohol abuse that happened, the person ‘s memory is scarred by falsehoods and can not see the truth. They told me that I was “self-medicating” by whatever I was doing. However, the concept that one is “self-medicating” is only a prelude to convince someone the value of psych drugs and therapy; which are nothing but harmful to the brain and body. Life is not a medical model or any model. Life is what we do when we tried to do something else that was never us in the first place. Thank you.

  • Yes, work can make you depressed, angry, etc. But, the psych drugs won’t cure this problem, but, only make it worse, very much worse. What we need is to pay attention to the individual and help them discover their unique talents, skills and their purpose. I heard someone it is when you lose your purpose in life, you become most vulnerable to what ever that could harm you, including the psych drugs and therapies, etc. Each person needs to know that he or she is valuable and worthwhile. Our schools and our government don’t help people to know this. In a way, we are left on our own, but, it can be accomplished with love and patience and avoiding the drugs and therapies, etc. Thank you.

  • The best thing to do is for these doctors to quit prescribing these drugs. Even better would be for the patient to say no to these drugs when the doctor tries to prescribe them. But, I know it is very difficult. We have given our doctors and others in the medical, including the psychiatric industry too much power. It is almost as if we have given them a “god-like” power and authority and many seem to enjoy this and abuse this power and authority. If we want to be free of this “mumbo-jumbo” we need to take our lives back and be our own authorities. We know our body and brain better than they do. We know what is best for us better than they do. And if you do believe in God, it is important to not put “god-like” power and authority onto another mere human. All of this is important. And, it is not easy, but very necessary if we want to survive as a species. Thank you.

  • This article is well-written and could prevent this crazy maintenance drug concept that causes the patient to be prescribed years upon years anti-depressants, anti-psychotics, lithium, benzos, even anti-seizure drugs like depakote and tegretol and others. In the article the author discusses an imaginary patient who does possibly get prescribed an anti-depressant and then if that doesn’t work, an anti-psychotic is added. But, unfortunately, what really happens is the psychiatrist begins with one or two drugs, complains they don’t work, and they add and add on even stronger drugs like anti-psychotics. Many patients are on perhaps six or more even up to twelve and thirteen of all these drugs for years and years. What really happens here to the brain and the body in this situation? What are not only the short-term effects, but the long-term effects even after all these drugs have ceased being used by the patient? In my case, my brain and body rebelled from this regimen. I went into a semi-comatose sleep state, could not be awaken, and was considered that my future would be as a “vegetable” or only slightly better, probably needing 24 hour long term care. However, eleven days later, I did leave the hospital without needing any such type of additional care. However, it took another two years before I got off the last drug, which was lithium In the meantime, they tried several different anti-psychotics, etc. that never worked. But, now, I, probably live a strange life compared to some. I am allergic to many foods, probably all drugs and who knows what else. And, I still don’t have a “sleep schedule” but I am no longer “batting myself on the head” about it. There are other changes in some of my skills, abilities, concentration ability, etc. I guess I could write a book, but, then I don’t have the “where with all” or the patience. I know there are others out there like me. We are an emergency warning system, but, will anyone listen to us? Thank you.

  • If you want to live, you do not use the anti-psychotic pill as prescribed. If you want to stay free of their definition of psychosis, you do not use the anti-psychotic pill as prescribed. If you want your imagination and intuition intact, you do not use their anti-psychotic pill as prescribed. If you want to talk to God (pray) and hear His voice, you do not use your anti-psychotic pill as prescribed. If you don’t want the side effects that disrupt your body and brain in all kinds of terrible ways, you don’t use your anti-psychotic pill as prescribed. If you don’t want your brain to shrink and be damaged, probably for the rest of your life, you don’t use the anti-psychotic pill as prescribed. Got it! Good! This is your brain on psych drugs—-not a fried egg but a scrambled egg mush! Thank you.

  • Please remember “therapy” alone for any age; child or adult is dangerous. It is as dangerous as the psych drugs which we know are dangerous. So, when therapy and drugs are used together which seems to be the psychiatrists, etc. protocol, the danger is staggering. It is as if the “poison label” is broadcast and magnified everywhere. Sadly, the psychiatrists and therapists and other prescribers, etc. refuse to see it and they drug and therapize the patient so he or she is blind and asleep to it. It is a tragedy we must work to reverse. I do not know if the Britney Spears issue will even make a dent into reversing this tragedy. Thank you.

  • These lovely therapists and psychiatrists liked to insist that I had “psychosis” as early as my preschool years, like I was destined to this alleged sickness. They also misconstrued my “imagination” which I now consider to both a gift and life-saver as a psychotic symptom. They dismissed any previous history with alcohol. In fact, they never ever took any of “medical history” at and I saw several different psychiatrists in several different clinics and practices. What is notable about my history with alcohol is that I am very highly allergic to it and have been so prior to my time in psych world. But, that should not surprise me as it took them months and months to put on my chart that I have a significant allergy to penicillen. Now, I am allergic to about every ingestible drug— I can’t even take an aspirin. I am also allergic to a million other things including food like poultry, etc. Oh yes, they never asked me about my long standing allergy to heat and sun; which does go back to my preschool years. Of course, they refused to ask and know, they prescribed lithium and a whole host of drugs that cause someone to be very sensitive to heat. It is amazing that I got out alive. Thank you.

  • Rosalyn Carter has been a big advocate in the “mental health/mental illness” area. In the states, there are also big ties between mass media and big pharma which promotes these drugs. There are also celebrities who feel it is their duty to tell us how therapy and drugs has helped them. I am sure there are other US political entities involved, but I am not sure whom. It does seem, in the US, the greatest propensity to advocate for the psych lifestyle comes more from the left side of the spectrum. Sometimes, I call this psych world, but it is a lifestyle, too, a very dangerous one; but that truth they want to remain hidden, if they can. It is a cultic religion, too. I think there is probably a hierarchy involved, too. The biggest lie is one that the author highlighted. The author is told that he is the one “killing people” when it actually is the drugs (in so many ways) that are “killing people.” The psychiatrists and the other doctors, too, are the vehicles by which the drugs can do their dirty, evil work. Doctors (the traditional M.D.s) have become nothing but “pill pusher” and that they learned from the psychiatrists. Now, it seems almost all M.D.s are “psychiatrists” in one way or another. Thank you.

  • I wrote earlier and I do not think this is just coincidence: the word, “therapist” can easily be broken down in the words: “the rapist.” This is why I consider all therapy, especially, in relationship to psychology/psychiatry as dangerous and harmful. It seems that when some “therapists” realizing they are doing harm, they retire early or find a different job. Some feel trapped and stick it out until they can retire. Some secretly enjoy their power over others. The last group is “psychotoxic.” The “trapped” is in danger of becoming “psychotoxic.” Many of these “therapists” really thought they were doing good and helping people by picking such a career. The good people who did enter this career realize they were duped and leave. The others just become more and more “psychotoxic” and who pays the price—the vulnerable, gullible who think they believe they are being helped when they are actually being harmed by some now dangerous people in a now evil world—psych world. Thank you.

  • I think you are sort of right; but, for most of us especially after surviving psych world, it is better to remain in one’s comfort zone as much as possible.
    As far as “venturing out of the box” for anyone, staying in the box can be comfortable for many, unless someone closes the “top of the box.” I guess that is when someone is taking advantage of you in your comfort zone and that which was your comfort zone is no longer your comfort zone. Now that I think of it this is what happens to me of us in psych world. When that happens and the worst danger has passed, then our comfort zones must be redefined for our own safety, health, etc. Actually, I think we redefine our comfort zones daily whether we acknowledge it or not. So, for most people, for someone to tell another person “to get out of their comfort zone” is just another bullying tactic or an abuse of power type thing. Thank you.

  • I know as they say, “this probably dates me,” but there is the episode in the old 60s sitcom, “Get Smart.” This episode, in a way, although it predates this common psych drug era almost like foresaw what these psych drugs really do. Maxwell Smart had been captured by KAOS, his nemesis and was released. KAOS gave him specific pills to take every four hours because under the “care” of KAOS, Smart had developed a “memory problem.” What is odd about these little pills is that as he is getting his memory back, he is reminded to take a pill and there goes his memory again. Actually, I don’t quite remember how it ends, but I think 99, his girlfriend figures it eventually. When, I came off the psych drugs, I thought about that episode of “Get Smart.” It seems so funny and it is done in a comedic manner; but, now that I think about it—that is similar to all these psych drugs—just at about the time you get the memory of who you are back, it’s time to take the pill or pills again. There is one part that was not reflected in this episode—what really happens when you come off the drug and the true terror you must endure to get the memory of who you back. Of course, that is not funny—not one bit. But, for those of us have lived through it and survived—it is very well worth it. I just wish we did not have to go through it, but, I am not quite sure if there is any other way, without taking more pills to dispel what the pills did. My body was really angry at me and would not let me do that. So, it’s unclear if that would do more harm than good. There are days that I wish I had more answers, but, I don’t. I am still only human and I still refuse to give up my being human. Thank you.

  • I have seen that sometimes a weather forecast model gets it right; but, it’s still very short-term and very limited. They are improving somewhat on hurricane models, but, they can usually on close on the track, not the wind speed, etc. But, what is to be noted about any of these models as that in the end, Mother Nature has her say and overrides all the meteorologists. Actually, there is some similarity with any sort of alleged medical model, albeit there are extremely far less accurate. Mother Nature always overrides these alleged experts “models” and Father Time complete evaporates or eviscerates them. What does it all mean? It means even allegedly real scientists and doctors and the illegitimate psychiatrists who pretend to be God will be reprimanded by a higher power and we humans who put our undying trust in such nonsense should do the same. Please remember astrology is only a model, too. Thank you.

  • Yes, I would say CBT, DBT, and any of these therapy things with “letters/initials” are both corrupt and are cults and only do harm rather than good. Yes, sadly, colleges and universities no longer teach people to think and they do value creativity. But, in a way our colleges and universities only mirror our mass media who are very afraid to ask the right questions that will truly get us the answers we need. And, yes, these psych drugs do cause violent thoughts and actions towards self and others. I would dare suggest that the problem with the gun violence in our country is not the guns nor the mental health issues, except the latter as related to the psych drugs available and probably in not only our bodies, but air, water, soil, etc. These psych drugs are basically “synthetic.” We have really no idea what they do the body and the brain, except the few things they sort of allow to be known. What we know of the brain damage has been through anecdotal stories and a few brave “researchers and clinicians, etc. Is it possible that when these drugs are taken by the patient, there may be some sort of “shedding thing” going on that might affect some of the more vulnerable who may be around them, as in work, school, or even in the home. I don’t know. And l.e. cox is right, it is sad that psychology, especially academic psychology seems to care less. Thank you.

  • I didn’t watch the video, but the article seem to pack a lot of negative information linking the psych drugs to violence and other side effects. A lot was left out of this article. And, as far as the side effects reported, I would say they are highly underreported. This article does make a case against the drugs, but will anyone listen. Several things stood out to me in this article: these psych drugs are “mind-altering” drugs is one thing. Of course, the psychiatrists and Big Pharma will undoubtedly deny this. The second thing that struck me was the idea which is tied in to the “mind-altering” effect of the drug is that the effects of the drugs are only temporary forcing the “patient” to continue taking the drug to get the effect. This, to me is further indictment that the psychiatrist and Big Pharma are really just garden variety drug pushers of whom the only thing keeping them from that street drug pusher are degrees and a false legitimacy. And of course a false legitimacy leads to a false authority. Still, since the public has been brainwashed that these drugs are the answers to their problems, it is definitely an uphill battle to convince them otherwise. I don’t think it is impossible; but at present, it something that needs our creativity, imagination, experience, intelligence, and wisdom to come up with a plan that will convince them. But I’ll be honest, it’s Saturday night and I haven’t got a clue. Thank you.

  • I am not sure if I understand what you are saying. I guess I might be the “eternal optimist” which is one of the things that got me into trouble with psych world in the first place. Most days, I feel I could not have lived this long or survived as I have, when I almost died from these horrific psych drugs and the therapies for things to go completely “sour.” I also have a strong faith in Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I do not expect to agree with me or to think as I do. And, I do respect what you have to say; even if I confess that I do not quite understand it. So, I guess, as they say, at least on this point, we can respectfully, gently, and kindly agree to disagree. Thank you.

  • I know exactly the “feeling”—these two alleged professionals speaking about you as if your were not there, but making decisions about you, based mainly that to them, you are are no longer an individual person; a human being; but, an object, an experiment, something material like a car or a piece of furniture. Yes, this has happened and by not just psychiatrists, psychologists, etc. And here is something worse, but related. They write a “report” about you. They base it on evidence from some sort of testing or something else. It is derogatory and defamatory. They treat as fact and that it can not be questioned. They read it to you. I am not sure what they expect. But, after the end of this reading, you feel like a nobody, a nothing. I have had this done to me by psychologists, psychiatrists, and M.D.s in several specialties. It is dehumanizing. Thank you.

  • Sadly, there are those who seem extremely happy to see people out of their comfort zone. But, there are still people out there who are not happy when people are out of their comfort zone and are happiest when they see others in their comfort zone. I know it’s seems hard and difficult sometimes, but I pray that more and more people come into contact with those who happiest to see people in their comfort zones and unhappy when they see people out of their comfort zones. Thank you.

  • I think I understand what you are saying, however, I see it a little differently. First, I believe that “being in one’s comfort zone” is being “where you ought to be.” For some people, that really does cause what seems to be someone acting out of their comfort zone. I think of the common “stage fright” experienced by many actors; but, if you ask them they would rather be on stage than anywhere else. But, then there are those who have that “stage fright” and it is a message to them that they do not belong on stage; as it makes them extremely uncomfortable. Perhaps, this “comfort zone” thing gets confusing because of the “overlay” of ideas about it from others, maybe some who are truly unhappy but are afraid to admit it. Of course, in the real world, few of us stay actually in our “comfort zones” 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Sometimes, we have to interact with people we would rather not. Sometimes, we must do things we would rather not. When I have to do my laundry, I can get very grumpy, because I am out of “my comfort zone.” But, when I put on my clean clothes after a good hot shower, I am back in my “comfort zone.” I think part of it boils down to how much time we spend in and out of comfort zone and how we deal with this. I would say when you find your “comfort zone” if possible, try your best to stay in it at least 60% a day. Of course, this can vary depending on sickness, family needs, weather, and a whole host of things. This is just how I feel about this “comfort zone” thing. I do confess I really get tired of those who tell me to “get out of my comfort zone” and don’t even know me. Well, anyway, I hope this clarifies things. Thank you.

  • I was reading your reply to Willoweed and I was reminded of when I was taking these psych drugs, I had these “weird feelings” in my brain. I felt at times as if my brain was actually itching inside. Other times, I would describe my brain as feeling “just raw.” I checked with the other clients who would be waiting with me to see their psychiatrist or therapist and they reported similar “feelings” in the brain. I was under the impression that the brain did not actually “feel” anything outright. However, when I stopped these drugs, these “feelings” went away. I was wondering could these “feelings” reflect the damage that is being done to the brain while the person is taking these psych drugs? It would seem to me to lower the efficacy, if any efficacy of these drugs and highlight the brain damage these drugs cause. However, I think just because these “brain feelings” go away after the drug or drugs or stopped; does not mean the brain damage goes away among stoppage of the the drugs; although it does seem some of the odd symptoms do. Also, has anyone else told you about similar “brain feelings” while under the influence of these psych drugs? Please note at the time this happened, I was probably on about six or seven different drugs, including SSRIs, antipsychotics, lithium, and a benzo drug. I do not know what types of drugs or the actual drugs the other clients were prescribed and taking. Thank you very much.

  • That small cadre you speak of are just pure evil, an arm of satan and his doings. It is tragic that we have degenerated to a discussion of evil, although it is present and something we must renounce and fight against daily; but that was not the intent of my first post. I, personally, would appreciate if the good people who post on this site would stay on topic. Please remember that my main point is that people have every right to stay in their comfort zone and it cause stress and suffering to expect people “to get out of their comfort zone.” Just as much suffering as le cox noted about expecting people who are unhappy to “leave their comfort zone.” All that you speak of, I think, probably belongs in another discussion. It does not reflect the intent of my post which was rely to a post by l e cox or the intent of the author. I am not writing this to cause you hurt and if I do, I am sorry. I, only want this initial discussion to get back on track as I am sure there is much others could contribute about this assertions. Thank you.

  • Steve McCrea, I am sorry, but you have really misconstrued the message in my post. Honestly, I doubt if anyone feels comfortable harming another person in any way. They just don’t want to admit, even these psychiatrists, etc. and the therapists, etc. who prescribe harmful drugs and such. They just hide it from themselves through lying to themselves, rationalizations, pretending they don’t know anything, etc. They are really uncomfortable and about as far away from their comfort zone as we are from Pluto or farther. I am talking about people who really deserve to be in their comfort zone and do not need to be threatened or tormented from there. Unfortunately, so many do caught up in the psych world web and suffer needlessly. That’s who I am talking about. As far as those of whom you speak, God is quite excellent in meting out His judgement. In the meantime, I stand ready to fight against the evils of psychiatry, etc. a definite tool of the devil. Thank you.

  • In my memory, I think I had only one “therapist” who did not refer me to a “psychiatrist” for drugs; but, she was independent and not tied to any specific medical-type clinic. Of course, I think, many of these “clinics” the “patient” now really does see an actual M.D. psychiatrist, but some sort of health care provider who receives his or her approval to prescribe from the authority of an M.D. psychiatrist. Sometimes, this happens in the millions of urgent care clinics that have popped up across the US for the many minor ills we get that are just below the emergency room level. So, many times nowadays, we are not getting our prescription for many dangerous drugs from M.D.s of all specialties but from health care providers that when we hurt or in pain, we are unable to actually see their real credentials. It might save money; but does it really save lives? Thank you

  • I agree, why force the suffering “to get out of their comfort zone.” In fact, why must we force those who are comfortable in their comfort zone to leave it? So many people search for years and years to find their comfort zone and never find it? Psychiatry, etc. takes advantage of this with their evil dangerous drugs and their associated therapies. But, not only psychiatry, etc. also mass media, advertising, the illegal drug market, etc. The list is endless. Perhaps, we should stop telling people to “get out of their comfort zone” but don’t be afraid to look for your comfort zone and when you find it, stay there; because “there really is no place like home.” We have a right to our comfortableness. We should not let someone take it away, because, it truly is taking away our God-given right to freedom and the right to pursue happiness. Thank you.

  • I think my list of the drugs I was prescribed may have been that long, but I can’t remember. Some of the drugs look way too familiar. I would ask if the author had tried the US; but, I think in the US, the censorship as far as tv and other mass media might be even more disgusting…Unfortunately, it is very difficult to explain to others how dangerous these drugs really are and they are very probably the cause of the “diseases” listed in the DSM. However, the “mainstream narrative” belongs to these drug companies and to their psychiatrist buddies. It is so pervasive this belief that you must hide your “history” to even some who are close to you. I would say it might take a celebrity to get the truth out as the “Rock Hudson/AIDS” history; but, as tragic as the Britney Spears problem is; it is not the case to exactly bring to light the evils of the drugs and the evils of therapy. Did you hear they are now trying to create a vaccine for depression —out of the drug, Ketamine? There are moments I feel like saying, “we are all doomed.” But, still, I pray and I believe the truth will out and I await the day it does. In the meantime, I am grateful for people like this author, Robert Whittaker, and others who keep up the good fight and this is a very good fight indeed —to win. Thank you.

  • Katel, What you state here has been similar to my experience, too. Most of the time, I have had this type of experience in a “community mental health center” where they had the psychiatrist and a therapist (usually a licensed social worker.) The tragic joke is always “take this drug” so we can understand why you feel the way you do. I guess, it should have been a tip-off, but I was blinded, partly by the fact I had a psych degree and was overly trusting. I also say “be
    careful” who you turn to after you leave what I call “psych world.” It sounds real great to be involved in things like meditation, mindfulness, and even some New Age type stuff; but, beware they are all the same devil in different disguises. Also, if you can, stay as far away from any therapy (even if they claim they want try to ply you with drugs.) After “psych world” it is very important to take care of yourself to the best of your ability. This means be kind and gentle and forgiving to yourself and others. Live life as peacefully and as calmly as possible. And take note of what you can do and should not do, what you can eat and should not eat, and a whole bunch of etc. Remember no doctor or anyone on Earth knows you as well as you know you. Only God knows you better. Therefore, prayer does always help, too. Thank you.

  • This is a very excellent and interesting article, however, the problem also is: that so many of us had not just antidepressants (SSRIS and others) prescribed to them; but also, anti-psychotics (neuroleptics), a benzo or two; Lithium or depakote or some related drug and maybe even a drug like ritalin or adderall. Also, there are many who may have had two or more antidepressants or antipsychotics or the drugs like the “benzos” they claimed were supposed to deal with the side effects. The problem is that so many people must deal with the withdrawal and subsequent adaptation by the brain/body from not just one or two drugs, but a whole poly-pharmacy. Poly-pharmacy is not uncommon with serious diseases that may be life-threatening; but they are tragically popular in the psychiatric community. The sad irony is that the person is usually going through life and its many myriad of changes, then they are slapped with a preliminary, probably false diagnosis to justify the prescribing of at least one or two drugs and then it escalates. It escalates because even with one or two of these drugs, the patient develops “symptoms” and gets sicker and sicker—-all caused by these evil psych drugs, not helped by the evil therapy, the patient must undergo. It is a two thronged evil dagger—psych drugs and therapy—both sadly meant to damage and injure good people; whether these “providers” will admit it or not. Thank you.

  • This is an article that has some very interesting points. I do not necessarily agree with your definition of success, as it is a more culturally approved definition rather than the more important individual definition of success. But, ever since, I heard the, phrase, “get out of your comfort zone” I questioned why. What is wrong with being in one’s comfort zone? It is so… comfortable. But, now there is another one of these phrases making the rounds, “stay in your own lane.” Well, if I “stay in my own lane” does that mean I am avoiding “getting out of my comfort zone.” What should I do? Although, the idea of staying in one’s own lane is appealing usually it is slung at you like a command, as if you are getting in their lane and the person is upset about it. Howhever, back to the “comfort zone” thing, I would say, when I am in my “comfort zone” I am successful, even if it is not upheld by society’s alleged standards. I am successful because I am alive, happy, relaxed, contented, calm, and peaceful. Which also reminds me of a quote from the Bible (since you did mention Proverbs); “peace beyond understanding.” When I read this phrase, I feel at peace. But, personally, I have also used this phrase I learned in church as a little girl to define my personal success; “meet, right and salutary.” I think each person has their own unique definition of success and when they stray, that’s when they become vulnerable to such evils as psychiatry, etc. Thus, that unique definition of success that each one of us makes both the phrases; “get out of your comfort zone” and “stay in your own lane” null and void. Therefore, then the best thing to do is listen to ourselves and not the “them” who utter these idiotic statements here and there like allergens. Thank you.

  • Dear Mr. Ruthven, Thank you for your comment about my comment. One more thing is that when the psychiatrists became accepted into medical circles, because they started using the medical model; the traditional doctors could then say, “I don’t know what’s wrong with you, it must be in your mind ” and refer you to a psychiatrist or “You’re just so stressed from work or whatever…” and refer you to a psychiatrist. Basically, psychiatry adopting the medical model allowed traditional medical doctors to “pass the buck.” In the end, I feel this will be the downfall to any sort of good, decent healthcare and I am concerned that any reforms to healthcare would probably fail. And, I am very usually not a person who sees the glass half empty. Despite it all, I see the glass half full. It is just my experience in what I call “psych world.” And as you can see, I am quite wordy at times and resort to “trite slang expressions” rather than a specific word. Why? Due to the “brain damage” from the psych drugs, I can either no longer spell correctly or find the right specific word. Thank you.

  • Mental illness/mental health: 0+0=0; 0X0=0. If there is nothing, then one has nothing. Why do you think they keep changing or adding drugs to people’s prescriptions? Well, the answer is there is no such thing as a mental illness and mental health is therefore the biggest lie ever foisted upon a civilization? If our civilization goes the way of Ancient Egypt, Rome, the Mayans, etc. it is because of this evil lie. I am sorry that I ever fell into that trap and I am sorry for all those who have. And, the most evil part of this lie is that the drugs and the therapy is damaging and dangerous and can disable or kill you or worse. All I can say is say no now—even to the smallest bit of therapy. Do not forget that therapy can be as dangerous as the drugs and with the drugs it is terror and torment. And, that is even before the withdrawal. Still, there is some good news. If you make it through the withdrawal, life may a little different than before the drugs. For one thing, you are thankful to be alive. Your mind is clearer and you are drug and therapy free! They say a bad fishing day is better than a good work day. I say a bad day without drugs and therapy is one billion times better than a day on psych drugs and programmed into their evil therapy. Each day the sun shines and I am not on those evil psych drugs or engaging in any form of therapy, I can only smile and thank God for my deliverance. Thank you.

  • If what Jorge Rafael Videla said is true, “A terrorist is not just someone with a gun or a bomb, but also spreads ideas contrary to Western and Christianity civilization.” and I believe it is; it would be logically and morally impossible to be “anti-psychiatry” or work to end psychiatry and be considered a “terrorist.” This is because both Western and Christian civilization are the absolute, exact opposite of psychiatry; which is nothing but pure evil. Thank you.

  • Sadly, some of the “alternatives” mentioned by Fiachra can be just as dangerous and damaging to the brain as do the psych drugs and therapy. Some even cause similar symptoms that the psych drugs and therapy does. The Twelve Step program began by Bill W. for alcoholics may have some helpfulness for some individuals. Steve McCrea is right that Buddhism, etc. is not “treatment” however, the questions might really be, do we really need “treatment” “Treatment” usually assumes illness or the possibility of infection; such as I cut my finger with a knife while cutting up vegetables, then I might apply “treatment” with a “first aid ointment.” Perhaps, the reason, none of this really works is that there is no illness involved. That began to dawn on me as they kept trying drug after drug and then claiming that the didn’t work. Now, obviously, they did not work because they had no need to work. I was not sick at all. It is not that we are never sad, angry, unhappy, etc. We would be human and probably “sick” if we weren’t. Perhaps, this really might be better handled by our specific, unique, individual religious beliefs and orientation, rather than the false medicine of psychiatry, etc. Thank you.

  • I am no MD or expert on anything, but I saw your post on these psychiatric drugs that are definitely neurotoxins. You mentioned that some people do report complete recovery even after years of suffering –“post-withdrawal.” You were also concerned about “irreversible” damage designation. First, I see this whole area of what happens after someone has gone through the withdrawal from the drugs and even what happens during the withdrawal period as like an area of which we are just beginning to learn about… There is no doubt these drugs damage the brain; for how long, etc. seems to be different for each individual. I know there is the new concept of “neuroplasticity.” We must be careful, however, not to penalize those who we feel do not fit in to some narrow idea of how someone should be—so many months, years, etc. after coming off these drugs. Part of the reason (other than greed, control, etc. ) that people get prescribed these drugs in the first place is a total lack of respect for the individual; their unique brain, body, needs, motivations, etc. Of course, this total lack of respect for the individual is tragically pervasive in so much of society, government, education, and the even the branches of medicine that have traditionally been considered not a fraud, and other areas, too. I would dare say many of the ills of society come from this lack of respect for the individual. I would not want this basically new area of “life after psychiatry, etc.” to be included in this amazingly hurtful error. Thank you.

  • This is an interesting article. As far as “drug research” goes, the one thing that is never discussed anymore is the effect of the “experimenter” upon the persons in the study; no matter if it is the placebo or the real drug. The other thing that is not discussed is the effect that these drug studies, like almost all medical science studies use volunteers and that also affects outcomes. Of course, in the latter case, it is unethical and illegal to experiment on someone with a drug, etc. without their knowledge and approval. (Although, it is done.) Now, it can definitely be argued that just prescribing these drugs to someone is an act of a scientific experiment, in and of itself. In fact, I would rationalize that I was a scientific experiment and so, I should expect the good with the bad; however there is more bad. What else is interesting to me about this article is that anti-psychotics (neuroleptics) are supposed to be prescribed after the first psychotic break. I never actually had a psychotic break and yet I was prescribed both abilify and risperidal for long periods of time and some other anti-psychotics, too, including I think haldol. I also noted in the article about what the author said about depakote. Depakote has been a common substitute for lithium for bipolar disorder. I was prescribed depakote at times, instead of lithium or alongside lithium along with SSRIs, antipsychotics, and the Benzo drug (to counteract the side effects of the anti-psychotics.) I, honestly, do not have a complete picture of what this has done to my brain. I feel like I have finished the withdrawal stage from these drugs and now consider myself in the adaptation phase. I refuse to give up and just lay down and die. I feel after all this I am alive for a reason. However, I do wish, we had more substantial information available about what to expect and how to adapt after the terrible onslaught of these drugs upon our brains. There are books and organizations to assist those who have Traumatic Brain Injury from accidents or sports or even “non-psychiatric” illnesses, but nothing for those of us whose brains have damaged by these drugs. But, perhaps, it is because there really is no such thing as a true psychiatric illness, as they are all caused by drugs or in some case by environmental chemicals, etc. But, none are caused by anything near by what could be called natural causes or at least nearly natural causes. This is a reply to not only bcharris, but to all who’ve posted, including the author who wrote this informative article. Thank you.

  • When I think of the idea of “mad pride” I am reminded that “pride goeth before the fall.” Psych survivors need to realize that this is something of which we cannot fall or rather fail. We must end psychiatry, etc. We can not let our pride get in the way or impede us from this goal. In order to do this, we can not revel in the falsehood of “mad pride.” We must remind ourselves of who we are. We are not mad, crazy, whacko, cuckoo, insane, psychiatrically disabled, mentally ill or any of those lies they have tried to ram down our throats through their drugs and therapizing. We have every right to be here, to live, to survive, to exist, to contribute, to be human. We are not defective or a fraction of a human or a sub-human or any such nonsense. And considering oneself “mad” as in “mad pride” lets them win. This is inexcusable. We must win; for we are not mere survivors; but we are warriors. We will not be silenced. We have goodness and righteousness on our side. So, please don’t slow us down by selling us the lie of “mad pride.” There is no pride in being mad; only sadness. Thank you.

  • l.e. cox is right. This is confusing to read. It has a lot pseudo-technical psycho-social mumbo-jumbo that really does nothing and is not helpful or healing to anyone. Many times, the common thinking has been that knowledge of the past prevents history from repeating itself. And, yes, that can be true. But conversely knowledge of the past may cause repeating that past to a certain degree. And, since humans are creatures of great imagination, it is very possible to recreate the past to suit our needs. It would be easy to say; “the past is past.” But, that is not entirely true. The past is very fluid always influenced by the bias of the person studying the past or reliving the past. This is true both collectively and individually. Think of this…How many times have we felt that “something seems like yesterday” when it was years ago? So, I think whether we are dealing with one’s personal past or we are dealing with the collective past, we need to tread lightly. At the very least, things are not always what they seem and if we spend too much dwelling on what actually or supposed happened in the past, it is possible to make things much worse rather than better. Thank you.

  • “it’s all interconnected, and we’re better off just focusing on individual situations and what works for a particular person rather than trying to generalize about ‘illnesses’ that are not objectively discernible.” It’s that “individual” part that drives psychiatrists, etc., dare I say, “crazy.” But, they are not the only ones. The fact that each one of us is uniquely an individual drives not only the fake psychiatrists “crazy”, but also traditional medical specialties, education, even government, etc. It is easier for all of these and other entities to describe people as types or diagnoses or whatever—anything to avoid dealing with the individual. But then, they probably claim it is cost efficient or some such nonsense; which it isn’t. This attitude is probably costing the economy and the whole culture/society way more than the national debt at present indicators. Thank you.

  • The issue with people having problems at work is usually a mismatch problem. It is usually a person whose natural talents and gifts are being wasted; while the person must struggle against the current of their natural self and then must try to achieve in their areas of weaknesses or non-strengths. It is usually when they are in areas that they are not naturally motivated to perform. It is an uphill battle and probably causes the most stress and eventually does lead to all kinds of health issues. It may be the one thing that helps to cause health costs to rise. And, it is so obvious that many want to deny it. Part of the reason is that there is so much vested interest in keeping the very organizations and etc. that benefit from these stress-related and other illnesses; so we avoid really finding any “cures” or as in the case of psychiatry, etc. pummeling the vulnerable with lies, drugs, therapies, that both useless and dangerous, leading to premature death for an unknown amount of people. This is one of the tragedies that stays hidden just below the surface like that snake that lives under your front stoop. Thank you.

  • Agreed. For, as you well know, actually, most in the present day “anti psychiatry camp” have been former patients and it is our sincere desire to both warn any possible future patients and assist those who wish to no longer be patients; because it truly is “killing” them. Of course, the ultimate goal is to end psychiatry; because it is evil. It is the modern day serpent that seduces the vulnerable and gullible not just from their garden, but to their demise. Ending psychiatry may be the most important thing we can do to save humanity and therefore our home, the planet Earth. Thank you.

  • Okay you caught me! But, please forgive me. I really don’t like to make excuses or not own up to my responsibility as a human; however, sometimes because I, like others, who post on this site have been “brain injured” by this psych drugs and I also add into the therapizing, etc. I make these mistakes and forget what I write or say. Thanks for pointing out to me. However, I will say one more thing; it goes to show how little we really know about the brain or can know. So maybe we should tread carefully about the brain; which is something these psychiatrists and big pharma seemed unwilling to do. Have a great night and day. Thank you.

  • Sometimes, it is very difficult to compare what happens in Ghana versus the USA and if a certain program that works in one nation will work in another. However, the concepts of rights in mental health care is nothing but a lie. Actually, the idea of mental health and conversely mental illness is nothing but a lie. There are all kinds of reasons that this lie has been perpetuated across many countries and many cultures and many have been mentioned by others who post on this site in response to other articles. In the US, we have things like Vocational Rehabilitation, Supportive Employment, Adult Daycare and Sheltered Workshops. There are probably others of which I am unaware. I have been involved in the above four mentioned. What is true about these is that they reinforce the concept that one is defective and needs help in some manner. In all kinds of messaging, some outright; some subliminal, the psychiatrists, etc. seek to reinforce that you are defective in some way. This is not like the idea of sin in the Christian religion; for at least you can be saved. The drugs, the therapizing and all this other stuff is in no way to “save” you. It is to keep you “under the thumb” and constantly remind how defective you are. And no matter what you do, in their eyes, you will always be defective. No wonder, the “mental health patient” is subject to prematurely dying 25 years earlier. It is imperative to end psychiatry, etc. because one of its many evils is to define you always as defective. Thank you.

  • Thank you for your definition; but, honestly I am not sure if that definition works for me. If it works for you, I would not counter with another one. I prefer to respectful and not argue against one’s beliefs. However, I shall consider, study, and think of your definition and other plausible definitions, also and see if really works for me and fits into my belief system. I appreciate you knowledge and perspective on things, even if I may not always agree. Thank you

  • In my readings on traumatic brain damage that usually arises from a sports injury or similar incident of force to the head, the books state how important it is for the patient to get as much sleep as necessary for that is where the healing is. It could be that the person needing to sleep so much while taking these psychiatric drugs is the brain desperately seeking to be healed from these drugs and a return to its own unique normality. However, sleeping while under the influence of these drugs, to me was not real sleep, in my opinion. To me, it seemed like an artificial sleep; but, I sure did a lot of it while taking those psych drugs. In fact, I started to sleep so much and could not be awaken (being nearly comatose) that I was hospitalized. My brain and body were finally rebelling against these evil drugs. I did almost die. They even thought I would be in a near vegetative state and would need 24 hour care for the rest of my life. They took me off all my drugs–cold turkey–except for lithium. However, I never did even need a physical therapist to come to my house; much less 24 hour care in some assisted living center. I think they were a little upset. But, after that, they kept trying this and that drug; but mostly each drug my brain/body rejected. Finally, two years later, after having some lithium toxicity, I rejected all of these drugs and could not any of these psych drugs again; much less any other drug. At that time, I literally walked away from these evil psychiatrists, etc. I pray no one else have to go through what I did to be awaken to how evil and dangerous these drugs, the therapizing, and actually all psychiatry is. Thank you.

  • SAMSHA has been a questionable agency since its inception. I choose to live, have no desperation to die and therefore I refuse to call my self “mad.” I think it was Shakespeare who gave the notion that there is a thin line between “madness” and “genius.” I barely made it through Shakespeare, fell asleep in art history, dropped chemistry, anatomy and physiology, and microbiology. I fell asleep in Psych 1, too. I failed geometry and had to take it in summer school. In statistics, I finally got a tutor. Such an awful student I was. So I can’t be mad according to Shakespeare’s definition. But, most importantly, according to me, I will never be mad and never was. Thank you.

  • If you consider that these psych drugs could harm the developing fetus (although I have read where women explain the drugs didn’t harm the baby, because the baby was born with ten fingers and ten toes) then should these psych drugs really be prescribed to women of child-bearing age at all? But, then what about women past child-bearing age? I would say there are other reasons to assert danger. As far as men go, I have read that these drugs disrupt their reproductive abilities, too? Have you noticed how the birth rate has dropped in countries like the USA? Like Robert Whitaker’s work, who found a correlation between rising disability claims and the rising prescriptions of psych drugs; could there be a correlation in declining birth rates and the rising prescriptions of psych drugs? That would be very interesting, but it might not be something that psychiatry, etc. wants to be pointed out to them? Thank you.

  • Although, you are right; unfortunately, it would be very difficult by the standards of the legal system, for most of those abused by psychiatry to list who, what, where, etc. as to abused them. I could not list all the drugs that have been prescribed me. I can not remember all the psychiatrists, therapists, etc. who have “treated” me. I can not tell you which year what happened. I have some memory of some incidents particularly between the years of 2002/2003 and 2013 to 2015. But, even off the drugs since 2013/2015, I have gaps in my memory. I also would need a lawyer who would be and the finances to pay for the lawyer. Although, there might be vindication, in the end, what would I get for it—maybe more money; but more than likely the process of living through all that terror again. It would be like living through a never ending tornado and it might not lengthen my life, but shorten it. I know that many who post here might not agree to my decision as to how I have handled this—but, I leave this all to the judgement of God and Jesus. It is in their hands, not the hands of mere mortal humans. Thank you.

  • Your last paragraph “hits the nail on the head.” I, personally, think “inclusion” is a word that deserves some skepticism; such as almost a “double-speak” word. It sounds so good; let’s be inclusive; but there really is no way to be inclusive; unless you are also exclusive. It just doesn’t work. By our very nature, we will exclude some people from our lives and sometimes it is necessary to our health and safety. If I include someone, I will probably exclude someone else. We really need to stop lying to ourselves about this inclusive thing. If you are a parent, for instance, you are probably concerned that your children are not hanging out with people might lead them astray from how you have taught them. As far as being give a “psychosocial disability” designation, I would say spare me. I know there are designations used by Social Security and other disability granting groups; but other than a “psychosocial” designation is utterly useless, explains nothing, and probably has negative outcomes for the person so designated. Let us drop it now before more people are hurt. Thank you.

  • About the mind being part of the brain–well, in my silly thinking, I figure it has to be somewhere; but, then it seems to me it is possible it might also be at the same time outside me. I know many consider the mind and brain as separate. I don’t know. Maybe the brain is the physiological organ which allows the mind to connect to the body. Of course, some people do use mind and brain interchangeably. I have seen it referred to this way: mind/brain. Maybe it depends in the definition; but sometimes definitions are either questionable or change over time. Thank you.

  • sam plover: If what you said teaches one how the brain works; then, maybe I do know how the brain works. One summer, while I was in college, I worked in the animal learning lab at the university I was at…I “trained” rats and gerbils. We had to time their alleged ability to learn some simple task. Most of the time, they escaped and I was chasing them around the little room I was in. Once I got bit and was rushed to the student health services for a tetanus shot. So this is how the brain works; when under pressure to learn or do something that is inherently stupid it wants to escape or it will bite you and that hurts! You see, the brain, even in non-human animals is way smarter than any psychiatrist or anyone who claims EMDR and like “therapies” as beneficial. The brain knows what it needs and I know there is discussion about the mind versus the brain; but I think the mind is part of the brain; so the mind knows itself, too. We just don’t want to listen and find ourselves running through hoops to avoid listening and therefore we pay the price and it can be hefty! Oh, see my run-on sentence! Love it and Live it! Thank you.

  • There is only way to stop this problem in Australia as in America; end psychiatry and psychology once and for all; for psychiatry and psychiatry is the root (or father) of all evil. At present, both Australia and America are using this “mental illness falsehoods” to hide all the little evils that go on in their countries. And drugging people does quiet them for awhile; until the hospitals begin to fill up with people suffering from the drugs side effects or the body bags of the excessively drugged pile up in the corners as high as Mount Everest. The “reforms” listed would only be short-term; because like all criminals, psychiatry, etc. will resort to their old ways again; unless we end psychiatry and psychology and no longer consider it viable and stop making it visible. Thank you.

  • It appears from this article that both right wing and left wing groups have helped finance research on this “happiness/eugenics.” It also appears there is way much more than is in this article about this issue. This article only skims the surface. Also, if you read this article and realize that the goal of psychiatry along with big pharma is to compel and/or force their “patients” to take “happy pills” or “pills for personality”–i.e. SSRIS, Benzos, neuroleptics, etc. you will see that the concept of “happiness/eugenics” is tragically non-discriminatory and thus no matter who you are in America and probably the world you have suffered from it one way or another. But, since, we know that we have been egregiously conned; we can work towards solutions to free us all from these types of evils. Thank you.

  • The quotes you noted from Pete Earley’s blog are very interesting and telling. However, I am not sure if Mr. Earley was aware of how the psychiatric drugs cause the alleged illnesses that are prescribed, not to prevent or stop, but to maintain, with different symptoms (otherwise known as side effects.) Thank you.

  • This conservatorship seems to have a “catch-22 conundrum” associated with it. It is almost like Britney Spears or anyone else in such position loses either way it turns out; as just sadly, even the public knowledge of this somewhat stains Britney, at least in the eyes of some. The main thing that causes the issue is the involvement of psychiatry and its incredible gaslighting influence upon the world right now. One question is what was the motivation to have Britney be put into this situation with her father as her conservator? Is it basic greed or something more nefarious? In my opinion, there is truth to the fact that disability rights are involved; but disability rights are much more than just a “women’s thing.” In my opinion, I do not see disability in and of itself as discriminatory. Thus, in my opinion, the results of this case should be of interest to all Americans. No one can predict when disability might come upon them. Yet, in this country, many disabled Americans of all kinds of disabilities handle their affairs just fine without being under any sort of conservatorship; so it does go back to the original question of: why?
    Second, I believe someone mentioned the effect of lithium and these other psych drugs upon the female reproductive system. Most of the women I knew on these drugs, including myself, had little to no periods after being put on these drugs. There are those who have been basically “sterilized” through the use of these drugs. It would be interesting to “study” how these drugs really affect the reproductive system; both male and female. Amongst other reasons, this could answer the question of the lowering birth rates in the US. I am not sure of other “western nations” birth rates. Since, it seems, it is highly probable that lithium might have affected Britney’s ability to become pregnant; why did they make her use the also dangerous IUD, too? I am afraid there is sadly much more to this than what seems apparent at first. Still, the decisions against her seem unexplainably misplaced and in no one’s favor, not even her father, who seems to Britney as his “prisoner.” Thank you.

  • l e cox– Maybe, I misunderstand “fear.” Maybe, there is a more adequate word to describe what might be a “healthy hesitancy” or a “healthy avoidance” of a dangerous situation. I don’t know. I believe that there is a treasure/trash thing going on in each one of us. Each one of us has our unique treasures to pursue and unique trash to avoid. Of course, we as mere humans can get this easily mixed up. I, also think there are general treasures to pursue for all humans; love, kindness, gentleness, etc. and general trash for all humans to avoid hatred, meanness, cruelty, etc. Basically, the treasure is goodness and the trash is evil. How this fits in as far as being scared of spiders and snakes might be that if you are bit by a spider or snake, you are either temporarily or forever derailed in this pursuit/avoidance thing. So, the upshot is, probably the intelligent and wise of us need to teach the rest of us how to deal with such creatures. My father, taught, that especially, in the desert never ever turn over any rock to avoid spiders, snakes, and scorpions. What it all boils down is just old-fashioned common sense. Thank you.

  • The only I have ever been screened were when I went in for Vocational Rehabilitation Services which led me to mental health clinics which, of course, screened me there. When, I was put into the local mental illness hospital, they screened me there. They were attempting to make suggestions about things that never happened to me. Thus, the lesson I have learned about screening: stay away from agencies like Vocational Rehabilitation. They will not help you; but, only lead you to places that will make your situation so very worse. I know sometimes a GP, an Internist or OB-GYN Doctor might try to screen you. Or they might try to screen you in an emergency room visit or if you need to be admitted to a hospital for a “non-mental-health” reason. Those may be hard to handle; but, you can say no to referrals. I was referred to physical therapy; which is not psychiatry, etc. and I said no. Although, at times, it is very difficult, in the USA, we still have the right to refuse any medical treatment. Of course, lately, there have been times of increasing difficulty to retain this. This is important for us to have. It is our freedom as Americans. Medical Freedom is as important as all other freedoms. Thank you.

  • It seems to me that we may be “hard-wired” for some fears and that to “de-sensitize” from these fears may either endanger our life in the short-term or perhaps endanger our life in the long-term. In the short-term reference, I am thinking of things like spiders, snakes (which might be venomous or deadly) or other natural things or even some man-made things. In the long-term reference, it might be a little more personal or unique. I am thinking of the fear of public speaking or even the fear of the water. These fears might prevent you from doing a job that is not within your natural talents and thus it could be frustrating and stress-related issues might happen to you. Of course, there are those motivated by the desire to overcome such and therefore to not overcome these fears and be successful would lead to stress-related issues for them. In most cases, when presented with a fear, we need to determine if it is in our best interest to overcome that fear or not and proceed accordingly. Of course, there might be times, when we have no choice but to “fight or flee” As we are presented with an encounter that requires instant decision making, fear or not. None of these incidents require useless, harmful therapies of any sort. In fact, these types of therapies could harm the necessary decision making ability that could harm your life on either a short-term or long-term basis. We really need to stop resorting to therapy to solve our life’s problems. Somehow, we have forgotten our basic human instinct towards survival. Thank you.

  • L.E. Cox I am no expert, but, when I was on those psych drugs, I met with an EAP counselor where I worked about a situation with a supervisor. This EAP counselor had had experience at the State Hospital and he noticed right away by looking at my eyes that I was taking those psych drugs. He said that when the patients, took those drugs their eyes changed and could show it; like alcohol. I have seen on the internet photos of where they compare the eyes under the influence of benzos, narcotics, alcohol, and ritalin. One psychiatrist I spoke to disputed it somewhat. But, to me, it makes sense. When I think of the years on the psych drugs, I remember having many of the physical tell-tale signs they used to write up in the “women’s magazines” of the sixties and seventies to alert Mothers that their child was “doing drugs.” I don’t know. All of this seems plausible; which means if it were true, the psychiatrists, etc. would hide it from us. Thank you.

  • Steve McCrea, I think you’ve “hit” on something. It is in “telling one’s story.” The best therapy; the best chance to discover who one is, what one’s talents are, what one likes and doesn’t like, etc. is not in therapy, but in telling one’s story to anyone kind and trusted enough to listen and therefore validate the individual. All else is nothing less than “hokey” science and we already know (from people’s stories on this Site and elsewhere) how dangerous and damaging it is and can be. Thank you.

  • l.e. cox, I agree with you. I also want to add about the idea of REM, getting the eyes to follow an object and then falling into a hypnotic state. If this is supposed to be non-drug; why does this non-drug therapy act like a drug? Have you ever seen the eyes of someone taking a psychiatric drug? It is obvious, some sort of hypnotic state is at work or the eyes would not be so telling. If someone tells you that the eyes do not show you are taking these psych drugs, they are lying. So, why would this be any different? Who knows, this could cause some sort of brain damage, too. So, I see RED FLAGS all over the place and thus, it seems to me that if someone has a history of psychiatric drugs, especially, with a poor outcome; they should avoid this EMDR like the plague! Thank you.

  • Personally, I am not sure if I am comfortable with the classification of “psychosocial disability.” I think, in many countries, it is a legal term and can/is a determinant of disability. I thought it was interesting that in the “variable list” it was important to note the distinction between psychosocial disability and intellectual disability. What I am confused about is if psychosocial disability includes just the alleged mental illnesses as listed, for instance, in the DSM or does it also includes those on the autism spectrum or others unknown. These type of disabilities do not always seem apparent to others, as someone in a wheelchair might. However, how can you really classify the “psychiatric survivor?” How can you really classify the truth of how disability that could be considered psychosocial? It starts with an iffy diagnosis, then a little prescribed pill and some associated therapizing, and then more pills and more therapizing until you really do have a full-blown disability—brain damage or injury. And, it is both similar and dissimilar to the brain damage or injury caused by sports or other accidents i.e. physically caused versus drug caused. This, seems, to me, beyond psychosocial; because in many ways, the needs of the person change. And, not only that it is the one most hidden; but yet, probably on the verge of gaining near epidemic or epidemic status. It is only because there are those convinced not to go off the drugs by their health care providers, that we don’t see it as much as is out there. But, that is an horrific example of being convinced by fear rather than motivated by the well-being of the “patient.” Thank you.

  • Lying can work for you or against you on these various screening tools. Once, I lied or rather I made up something–a story answer–and I was described as hysterical and shallow. Well, no one had ever said before that I was shallow. I, honestly, think they set these screening quizzes up so that no matter how you answer, you are already deemed as needing some sort of diagnosis; which, of course follows with dangerous and harmful treatments; including drugs. Thank you.

  • Katel, I am sorry that you have felt that way. I, too, have had similar feelings. It’s not you, of course. But, as “crazy” as the world is, I don’t think it’s entirely the world, as our perceptions of the world. However, psychiatry, etc. does not allow us our unique perceptions of the world, rather positive, negative or mixed. Psychiatry, etc. through its drugging, therapizing and all its etc. seeks to impose their view of the world upon us and its usually a world of blame, negativity, oppression, and worse. Psychiatry, etc. has the goal to take away our inherent God-given ability to decide what we think about the world. This is not like the parent/child relationship, a necessary step in growth towards adulthood and maturity; no—this is out right theft of our minds and our brains. It’s not your fault, Katel. You have had the worst thing stolen from you; who you are. You can restore who you are to you; but, first, you must walk away from psychiatry and renounce it in all its evil forms. Thank you.

  • Many people have trouble paying for pet food, especially since so many have been out of work due to pandemic, but, even before that. Shelters, even local animal controls, and also local food banks know the importance of a loving pet in someone’s life or a family’s life. They also don’t want to see the pets on the street, in the trash, left for dead or worse. These agencies and shelters will work to make sure there is food for your favorite pet. This, of course, would include any service animals. If anyone is having a problem, you might check with your local humane society or the society for prevention for cruelty to animals. In our area during the worst of the pandemic, there were all kinds of agencies, even churches who handing out pet food with their regular human food. I just wanted people to know; so no one who felt that their funds were low for any reason they couldn’t have a pet or have to give up a pet; because pets are family, too. Thank you.

  • To get away from “victim-blaming” and all the other derogatory offenses, we need to learn to treat each other as unique individuals. This is especially necessary in any alleged health care setting. Health Care providers also needs to respect that the “patient” has the authority and knowledge of their mind and body that not even the health care provider has. Health Care providers need to listen and stop talking and prescribing. Thank you.

  • l.e. cox, I am really sorry that he said such derogatory comments about your church. Unfortunately, many forget that old line about “politics making strange bedfellows.” I say that because I am of the thinking that no matter what one’s religious or even political beliefs, we need to work together to expose and end psychiatry. This psychiatry has a far greater evil impact on our society than we would like to admit. I still assert that psychiatry is the main villain, at least on this site and this is where our energy and our fight needs to be. There are some good points to this article; but, the good points are something most of us know from experience—it is the drugs (neuroleptics, SSRIS, and the others) that make you sick. Psychiatry is definitely an industry that one can go in well and come out sick. Thank you.

  • I didn’t watch the film; but there is one line that stands out to me in this article: “What we are saying in this film is that is offered as care can be lethally harmful.” This is nothing new; but l.e. cox makes this case: “The belief that drugs are the only road to recovery.” This is where it is difficult to get through to people that the very thing they thought would be “the only road to recovery” “can be lethally harmful.” Many just don’t want to hear that. But, it’s not entirely their fault. As psychiatrists and even legitimate doctors sell their drugs to you like that car you want at the new dealership. Of course, these psychiatrists and other doctors deny this. I have heard many doctors while these opiates (which they still do) are killing people; say “well, it’s the patient’s fault. They wanted the drugs.” knowing full well they can deny prescribing the drug if they feel it is in the patient’s best interest. Of course, it’s difficult to say no to these drugs when they are so heavily advertised and even various media influencers tell us it’s alright to take a little pill for that sadness or whatever; because I did and look at me—it changed my life or whatever. Even though these drugs can kill, it is an uphill battle. Thank you.

  • When you realize that the very people running the various systems, you learn to operate between the systems. You walk invisibly and quietly and mind your own business. Yes, you know have a task, a purpose to assist in the elimination of say, the psychiatric system—probably the most extensive and influencing—yet, you know not to bring attention to yourself—because the goal is to win against this system (like other systems) led by a small, but powerful group of psychopaths and sociopaths. I know that this can be misunderstood; but, in this world, you must take care of yourself or all the good unleashed to end a system, such as psychiatry will be an end in itself. Thank you.

  • I am not sure how to put this; sometimes, I get took the wrong way. From some of the reading, I have been doing, it appears that psychiatry is “making a killing” out of shaming peoples into false diagnoses, when, hidden inside those very false diagnosis are very probably our natural gifts and talents when they don’t try to drug and therapize all these people, they could use these natural gifts and talents to make the world a better place. Of course, sometimes, people get shamed at the friend and family level or over social media, now. That kind of shaming can lead some to the psychiatrist and his or her bag of drugs and therapies. It is a definite tragedy that they are doing this; because, yes, it hurts the “patient” and probably the “patient’s family” but it also hurts the very world in which we live. I guess this is the tragic millstone psychiatry must bear into eternity. Thank you.

  • Kindred Spirit, Please this is no offense to you. Each one of us has a right to our individual opinions. That is what makes each one of us unique. Please see what I have posted to Steve McCrea. I agree to disagree and I shall continue to disagree. I apologize if anyone has taken offense to what I have said; but I shall not discuss this issue any further. Sadly, this type of disagreement can accidently hurtful. I don’t want to be hurtful to anyone. Please forgive me if I have hurt anyone. Thank you.

  • Sam plover, The “psychiatrizing of medicine” as you describe might have been inevitable. Psychiatrists have taken hold of our society that we are sadly now in their evil grip; especially traditional medical doctors who are probably fearful of them in some manner. I noticed this myself especially as I was dealing with both psychiatrists and medical doctors. Unfortunately, this affects all who seek any kind of medical attention; even those who have traditional medical ills and would not consider seeing a psychiatrist. Of course, many times for a traditional medical illness, the medical doctor might suggest you see a counselor in addition to your appointments with him or her or that you join such and such a group of like diagnosed individuals. I saw this with my sister who had cancer and my father who had diabetes. This was back in the late 1990’s. I am sure it is “epidemic” now. The upshot is no matter what’s wrong with you; you’ll more than likely be treated as a psychiatric patient; no matter the diagnosis or doctor. Thank you.

  • I agree. I did not intend to hurt, but, unfortunately, I felt hurt, also. I think this is why I struck back the way I did. I do appreciate different views on almost anything, but, I confess, when I have a viewpoint I am very stuck on it and sometimes I do expect others to follow my viewpoint. I don’t even discuss politics with my mother! I think my issue is not that we disagree, but, that, in “civil discourse” I have been taught that we give credence to the other’s viewpoint by saying, “You may be right, but…” I was as guilty as anyone to leave out such phrasing. As debates get heated, this happens. I saw the basis for your opinion and yes, I disagreed. But, I felt that not only did no one see the basis for my opinion; but were considering my less than intelligent, uneducated, or worse for my opinion. Disagreement is great and definitely necessary, especially, as we work to figure out how to deal with psychiatry and the suffering caused by psychiatry and how to end it. Sometimes, we need a consensus and sometimes we don’t. Each one of us does speak from our experiences. Many times, “we just need to agree to disagree” and move on. This is my last post on this matter and I apologize if anyone felt offended or hurt. I was hurting, also, but that does not excuse me and my words. Please forgive me. Thank you.

  • I would like to thank the author for this article. It is very well done, even if some of the statistics elude me. But, what doesn’t elude me is this: in my experience, some form of bipolar disorder is like a throw-away diagnosis— why there must be something wrong with you; so we’ll diagnose you as bipolar. This article, sort of verifies, this. The first give-away point–“how to diagnose bi-polar disorder in two minutes?” If there is something wrong with you, even the “common cold” do you want it to be diagnosed in two minutes? (But, then, may be the going diagnostic procedure these days.) All of these questions are misleading and can be used against the patient; especially if there’s is hesitancy in answering them. Someone else pointed out specifically how they were denying their own diagnostic criteria on the anti-depressant drug question. Additionally, it seems they are trying to rationalize their anti-depressant drug prescriptions and codifying into saying “look how useful it is to us that we prescribe these drugs; now from the patient’s reaction, we can determine the sickness of the patient or how sick the patient is.” Like I said for these psychiatric diagnosis people; if they can’t find something wrong with you; they’ll say you have bipolar disorder. Finally, on lithium toxicity. Of all the drugs, I spent more time on that drug than any of the others. Lithium Toxicity can creep up on you, silently and stealthily, like a snake in your sleeping bag. The odd thing, at least for me, is that even as it crept up on me, my lithium levels showed within the acceptable range. But, I was getting sicker and sicker and much of my symptoms met the lithium toxicity criteria. I also developed extreme bodily restlessness and inability to control bodily movements. The prescriber was confused if this was something that had to do with lithium or was a symptom before the lithium. A-ah! When I stopped the lithium, that bodily stuff went away, too. Thank you.

  • Steve McCrea, I am so very sorry that you can not agree with my conclusion from the data which only signifies to me that you are unable to see how far we women have come in this society. This society is not perfect. But, there are societies in this world that the women can only wish they had the freedom that we as women do in the United States and most of the western world. The type of thinking that you espouse only seeks to return women to bygone eras when for instance women did not yet have the right to vote. I, personally, will not stand for it. Neither will other women. My very first job was a women in a male prison; that was my very first job. I have been abused by both women and men in jobs, as a patient, etc. This is not as clear-cut as you claim it is. Sadly, that which you espouse panders to the very people who would return to those previous times and divide women from men amongst other divisions in our nation and the world. I am sorry, but your words are painful to me. Please re-think what you have said. Our fight is against psychiatry, only. When that fight is finished because psychiatry has been ended, we should rejoice. We need to keep this “women’s stuff” out of it!!!!!!! IT ABSOLUTELY ONLY HURTS OUR CAUSE!!!! I am patently sick of this garbage!! I am free and if someone does not feel free, I will gladly guide their way. GOD HELP US ALL NOW!!!!!!! Thank you.

  • First, here is some statistical analysis of medical specialties in an article by the AMA which discusses which genders go into which branch of medicine. I got this information by googling “medical specialties by gender.” I believe this is mostly from data from the years 2004-2013. I will list the women first: Family Med: 58%; Psychiatry: 57%; Pediatrics: 75% Ob/Gyn: 85%. Men: Surgery:59%; Emergency Medicine: 62%; Anesthesiology: 63%; Radiology: 73%; Internal Medicine: 54%. Overall, in that time period 57.5% women completed their residency versus 49%. Now, there is a lot to unpack here and the entire article is available to read on-line. But, it appears to equate that the fight against psychiatry is related to the fight against women’s oppression is least in the 21st century, a “non-starter.” I know from my personal experience that I have had both male and female psychiatrists and both male and female therapists. But, since, and I quote, “Rebel, this isn’t about individuals and their feelings.” You see, I guess that is where there are obvious differences. Everything in this world boils down to the individual. The individual is the paramount figure in society, because of the family. Individuals make up families and families are the most important segment of society. In my opinion, if one segment of society is “oppressed” then all are “oppressed.” Even, the alleged “oppressors” are oppressed. But, I am also of the opinion that no matter what I say, there are those who will find fault and try to state the my opinions “by my own definition are evil.” Still that goes back to what I said. We can not be free as long as one group considers itself oppressed and another then, by definition, must be considered the oppressors. This just divides people into “us versus them” and each person is then forced to “pick sides” We must progress forward. Yes, there is still suffering and pain and abuse; but, to frame it as oppressor versus oppressed will not free the oppressed or punish the oppressed. It will just pit groups against groups and no problems will be solved and we will just go backwards. If we want to go forwards, we need to stop thinking of ourselves in those two terms and celebrate our unique individuality as our common humanity. This is my opinion. Please stop haranguing me for my opinion, whether you agree or not. Thank you.

  • We could spend hours and even centuries discussing this. I am very well aware of the history between men and women throughout the centuries. I am well aware of all things that men have done to women. My issue is not this. In fact, this is where I am being completely and totally misunderstood. I am not addressing the issues of any one particular “group” at all; which is why I am mystified why you keep bringing up this about what has happened between men and women. Actually, my issue is completely about the terms; “oppressed and oppressor.” If we, no matter who we are or our present or past grievance (and there are many valid grievances across time) only thinks of ourselves as being “oppressed” we develop a history of that when we are able to “overthrow” one “oppressor” another is ready and waiting to take his or her place. We must stop thinking of ourselves or, in fact, any one group as being “oppressed” even psychiatric patients or former patients. I know this can get other people’s ire up; as it seems controversial. And, I guess it is. But, when we think of ourselves as “oppressed” or a particular group as “oppressed” we invite further oppression and there is no chance of freedom. We must think of ourselves as free, everyday, or we will fall victim to oppression in all its forms. Thinking of oneself as “oppressed” is a trap we need to avoid; especially in the twenty-first century. I am sorry that you misunderstood me. I hope this clears things up. However, this is my opinion and I realize that you may not agree. Thank you.

  • Unfortunately, people, even on a personal level, do repeat their own personal history; until it hits them in the face and they make the changes in their life they need to. And, sadly, this can be true for the history of any group from “micro” to “macro”. We are still human, aren’t we. And, I am trying to figure out whom you mean are the oppressors, especially, in regards to women. Perhaps, men or perhaps other women. And, since, we are stuck with both on the planet, we must learn to live with them. And, also since, if we want the human species to continue, we must learn to live with men; because that is how we are meant to reproduce. I am not sure about the oppressed versus the oppressors. If one considers oneself oppressed, doesn’t that lessen their options. It also means there must be someone who is oppressing them. Perhaps, it is time we break free from such antiquated, stereotypical, and self-defeating terms and allow ourselves to live as we were meant to live on Earth. I realize that this sounds shallow, naive and definitely uneducated; but, as long we think of ourselves as oppressed, there will be someone available to take on the role of the oppressor. And who knows who that person could be tomorrow? Thank you.

  • The author is correct that suffering is now a billion dollar business, maybe much more. But, in a way, I disagree. I think, in America, at least, we like to “suffer.” It shows that we have done something, even if we have done nothing. We are rewarded with drugs and sympathy. I do not mean just the “alleged psychiatric suffering.” I have known so may people in my lifetime who speak more of their ills, than any of their joys and successes. In an odd way, it is a little game played to gain a modicum of esteem when all other ways fail. However, I still contend that, we still, despite the idea that America was built on “rugged individualism” spend so little time on the individual and work to disregard any individual needs, feelings, desires, talents. This is usually for the “greater good” of society. And, most of the time, the “greater good” clashes with the “individual good.” This is a sadness in many respects, because when the sovereignty of a person is disregarded, so is the sovereignty of God and the sovereignty of each nation. This can be an instigator for all kinds of conflict. Perhaps, it is because we might truly be worshipping suffering after all. And, in my opinion, why the mental health/mental illness paradigm fails. And, why, for the health, safety and continuation of humanity and possibly even the planet, mental health can never be reformed but must be ended. We must no longer concentrate on the fakery of mental health, but the real truth of individual health. Thank you.

  • I think all these “arguments” mean well, with good and salient points coming from all; but, please forgive me we really need to get back to the lies of mental health and psychiatry, etc. We have a nation, a world, in the grips of this evil, false religion and the rituals are damaging, if not killing many. Like, I said, earlier, it will probably not be any type of climate change or any of the other things we thought would cause the human species extinction; but this, this lie of mental health/mental illness—as promulgated by these psychiatrists and their buddies with their debilitating, damaging, destructive, disabling, even deadly drugs reinforced with their “therapies, etc.” Please let’s return to discussing the evils of psychiatry, etc. Like I said earlier, it is the parent of all the other evils. Let’s not take our eye off the ball or psychiatry will win and we lose—-very big-time! Thank you.

  • Willoweed: What you say is tragically correct. In fact, the psychiatrists and their buddies want to make you think your suffering is good. Also, the horrifying thing is when you go see them you don’t have a brain disease, but they convince you that you do; then they give you their drugs, reinforce those drugs with therapy and other stuff they come up with (I say come up with because that’s not like using one’s creativity at all) and then, guess what, your brain becomes diseased or the better words are damaged or injured. So, you go in their offices-healthy-they convince you, you’re sick–they give you drugs, etc. because they say you are sick–then you get sick from the drugs. And the cycle continues. The only way to save yourself is to get off the drugs and walk away from them (renounce them). Of course, that might be easier said than done. But, it is possible. And, when you do that– no matter the suffering (withdrawal) and then, later, adaptation to living with this brain damage, you will be free of their terror. Just don’t get yourself caught up in that evil again. That’s all I can say. Thank you.

  • Steve McCrea, I think perhaps there may be some misunderstandings here. I really don’t think anyone is trying to discredit women or anyone else. However, as to origins of any movement, good or bad there are always questions. Many times, the full stories of their origin grow confused and muddled as the years pass by since they began; just like our own personal memories. And, as usual, there are always conflicts amongst who thinks started what. Perhaps, in many cases, it may not actually be that important as to who started something or how it started. (Sometimes, it might be.) As far as the women’s movement, there are still some intelligent women who are still not in agreement with its purposes. As a woman myself, I do see all sides. We may think that all women would in favor of such a movement, but, for many, there are trade-offs and some women have not necessarily felt comfortable with that. Personally, I prefer change, without movements, if possible, cause with many movements, somewhere along the way, someone usually puts “junk” in the game as they say. Those of us in our zeal to end psychiatry can learn both from the positives and negatives of all these “movements” that have gone before us and for some, still continue. Also, please, remember, as far as “movements” people check in and out, go hither and thither. Nothing is constant. What may have fueled the women’s movement in the early 70’s may not even be of concern now. Some people who may been associated with the movement back then, may want to distance themselves now. Things change from day to day and each person is unique. Women, as they say, are not a monolith. Women are not one group who think the same or react the same. It is important to be aware that each person is unique in their reaction to the events of the nation, the world, even their own community. I think the best thing each one us can do is listen to the best of our ability and withhold judgement to the best of our ability. This way, each one of us can learn from each other and this way each one of us can contribute to a better world. There can be no diversity unless there is diversity of opinion. Thank you.

  • l e. cox, You make some very important points. However, as the “anti-social personality” goes. I would say not all “anti-social personalities” are psychiatrists. Some are in government, education, other forms of healthcare, mass media, big tech, pharma, business, even some movements and cults. And, I am sad to say, even some religious and spiritually based institutions. But, you are right about Spirit, although I might say God, but, even in Christianity, we speak of the Spirit Indwelling in You. Once, when I was in college, I heard a nun tell a story of a young woman who was basically distressed about almost everything. She said she met this nun, who left a small note one day. The note read, “Try God.” According to the story, this young woman did. Now, all was immediately or ever completely hunky-dory, but, it seemed when problems came her way, as they do, she was more able to deal with them. I must have forgotten that as I plunged myself in to the evil “rabbit hole” of psych world. I may have a more conventional view of religion, but, I totally agree with you; we do need “Spirit” whether you call it God or Jesus or something else. Thank you.

  • First; with all due respect to the author: the title: “How far psychiatry really come? Historical Practice versus Modern-Day Psychiatry.” is at best an “oxymoron” at worst, a question-mark. Second, and I believe Willoweed noted this: there was no mention in this article of the us of neuroleptic drugs or any of the drugs these psychiatrists prescribe. Considering that this is the treatment modus operandi of these psychiatrists, why was this omitted from the article? This is tragically telling. In my opinion, the fact that this drugging of their patients was left out of the article reflects that psychiatry has essentially gone nowhere, but backwards, way backwards. But, then how can something truly progress forward when it is illegitimate and an out and out fraud that makes “snake oil salesmen” look like real doctors and places the proverbial used car salesmen above the common petty criminal? Please, there is no difference from the past except that they use “Chemicals” (“drugs”) to do what the lobotomies and other surgeries and treatments did in the past? No difference. No progression. All a waste of not only time and money, but good human beings who could make contributions to society to make it a better place. But, why make society better, because it would be these psychiatrists out of business? Huh! Thank you.

  • l e cox, To be honest, I am not sure exactly how to “end psychiatry.” I just know it needs to be done. I also know there are lots of intelligent people how there who have been harmed by psychiatry or love someone that has been harmed by psychiatry and I believe there millions of ideas out there might work. I also believe in the Power of Prayer. As far as the “anti-social personality” I do not know not if these people are born that way or are they acquire it after. Perhaps, it is a little of both. somehow get turned around and some that never do. Could there be a little bit of “anti-social personality” in each one of us? I hope not and yet, there are so many… who seemed so destined until they usually meet that one particular person who changes their life and helps them get on the right track. However, I do believe we are born with certain unique natural talents, skill, etc. It seems that we must discover what they are. Each person must thus, discover their own unique treasure. When we find them, we can choose to use them for good or bad. Of course, there are those who are prevented from discovering them, are too scared to acknowledge, or get lost, for whatever reason, on the road to discovering them. The latter can make someone vulnerable to psychiatrists, etc. or maybe vulnerable to stress-related diseases. We like to think that it’s bad diet or a couch potato lifestyle or whatever; but many times it just natural talent-frustration. Of course, natural talent-frustration might cause someone to adopt some of those behaviors, too. And, let’s not forget the psych drugs that can make almost anyone who takes them vulnerable to anything and everything that comes along. Anyway, that’s just my opinion. Thank you.

  • Steve Mccrea, I appreciate and respect your view. In your post, you do make some excellent points, especially, as far as the lies about the fact that “mental illnesses” are caused by “bad brain chemistry.” And, yes, that does take people off the hook for their “bad behaviors.” Perhaps the whole idea of “mental illness” in and of itself takes people off the hook for their “bad behaviors” or even their “uncomfortable emotions or thoughts” or even their “bad headache moments or days.” Yes, I do consider psychiatry as evil. The Bible states that the “love of money is the root of all evil.” Perhaps, if the Bible was written in the 21st Century, it would add “psychiatry, too.” The problem with psychiatry and its parent, psychology, is that over the years, both have developed systems based on identifying our alleged defects and flaws. And with psychiatry, our alleged “mental illnesses.” Yes, no matter what we do, each one of us will always have our “flaws.” I do know this emphasis on our “flaws” is basically a societal and cultural epidemic (for lack of a better word.) I realize some do blame Christianity with its teaching on sin. I confess I do not know and will leave that to enlightened theologians. But, I do know this emphasis on basically our defectiveness harms us in so many ways. We need “systems” or something to help us learn and discover our natural strengths, our natural giftedness. Psychiatry has taught us to think in terms of what we can’t do, our limitations; not what we can do, our potentialities. That is why I think ending psychiatry, etc. will help if not end all the suffering that you and Kindred Spirit, speak of, but at the very least, it will diminish it. Yes, many times, one’s strengths do not necessarily jive with the society or culture, one has been born into, at any one time in history. So, yes, there is truth that even in ending psychiatry, many of the problems, we have, as a society, will still remain. But, we need to start somewhere. I think that start should be with the ending of psychiatry. When that occurs, I think all the rest of what you alluded to will be much easier to solve and conquer. I hope now you can see why I have said what I did. Thank you.

  • Kindred Spirit and Sam Mccrea, My comments about ending psychiatry deals with my belief that psychiatry is or represents the ultimate evil and thus, getting rid of it would mean that all “movements” as we seem to know in these last few centuries would be unnecessary. In my opinion, psychiatry, etc. with all its drugs, therapies, and blah, blah, blah, has penetrated society and culture so much, it has given rise to most of the problems we do face. Now, I am aware that many these problems did exist before the formalization of psychiatry, etc. I believe l. e. cox has suggested that psychiatry, etc. has been around in many shapes and forms since the beginning of time. That could be, if you consider, psychiatry, etc. to be an extension or manifestation of the devil (or satan.) That is why I hold such an opinion. Sometimes, we are unaware how pervasive psychiatry, etc. and how its evil has penetrated into the very essences of our world. That is why I say what I say. Thank you.

  • Kindred Spirit: Perhaps, although I am a strong believer in Jesus and that He died for my sins, etc. (I put the etc. in there, because there are whole creeds that express this in longer detail) I do my best to express that these are my beliefs and I do not expect everyone to have the same or similar beliefs or agree with me. In a way that would be against my beliefs, in that God has given us the free will to choose our belief system. As far as “pushback” no matter what one thinks or believes on religion or anything else, one should not base his or her comments or life on the “pushback” of others. If one does this, sadly, psychiatry, etc. has taken hold. I am sorry for those have been traumatized by any religious belief system. Unfortunately, all religions are made of humans, who still, in this time can say and do horrific, abusive things to each other and many times they hide this horrific abuse behind the tenets and rituals of the many religions of the Earth. Although, the comment about “bat**** crazy beliefs” was not referring to me and I appreciate that, I felt compelled to speak for all those who may feel hurt by comments such as that. I just want to say Christians or anyone who professes almost any religion have “bat**** crazy beliefs.” For me, I do believe that I have been saved by Jesus Christ and not just from my sins, but from psychiatry, etc. which I consider both evil and sinful. I do not expect anyone to think like I do. I welcome those who would disagree as much as those who would agree. I can not stop being who I am and thinking and believing, etc. as I do. That is what got me into the psych drug world mess in the first place. And, of course, that includes my belief in Jesus Christ as My Personal Savior. I don’t know what else to say. I mean to hurt no one, but I can not stop being whom I was created to be. Thank you.

  • Liam Kirk had a terrible time and I do hope things improve for him. One of the main problems with these psych drugs is that their makers sent them to the greedy, insecure psychiatrists and neither the psychiatrists or their makers (Big Pharma) either a) had the idea that withdrawing from them would be difficult and they wanted to hide this information or b) the FDA allowed these drugs without the proper testing to determine that they are “addictive” and thus would need safe ways for withdrawal. Most likely, it was both. As far as “addictive” I put this into quotation marks, because it is unclear if they are “addictive” in the way an opiate is. I say that because a somewhat enlightened psychiatrist told me that these drugs become a part of you. Yes, the body can get used to the opiates, but, as in the case of these psych drugs, the body thinks they are a part of them as much as blood and other natural fluids. I think this is what causes the problems in withdrawal and why it seems to the unenlightened that withdrawing from the drug only proves you are sick in the first place and thus need the drug. I went “cold turkey” on these drugs and though I went through “hell” it worked, probably because I honestly did not know how dangerous or life-threatening this can be. But, I am not sure about “tapering” as it usually must be done with medical assistance which is dubious and I am fearful, it might lead some open to recidivism with the psychiatrists etc. and their drugging. I tapered from lithium and an SSRI or two and sadly I did return the psych world evil. I am thinking there might be a third way—a combination of cold turkey and tapering. Of course, in a way, my experience may be different than many others. My brain and body after twenty or more years out and out rejected almost all these drugs, although they did keep me on lithium and kept trying unsuccessfully several other stupid drugs. Eventually, I got lithium toxicity and stopped that. But, the result, is that now, I am unable to take any drug without a horrible dangerous reaction or worse. Additionally, I have many food allergies or rather many unusual reactions to many foods, including poultry. But, my reaction to poultry (I get akathisia and extreme sleepiness) might make sense considering it has that tryptophan. Some say that it’s a myth tryptophan makes you sleepy. They claim it’s probably the big meal, etc. But, they usually says it’s a myth because it probably causes different reactions in different people and that drives these science brains crazy. And, there may be yet undiscovered ways to help people get off these drugs. The best thing to do is not start on these drugs, but, at the very least, we need to end psychiatry. But, what about traditional medicine who also prescribes these drugs. But, until then, we need to figure out a humane and healthy way to assist people in withdrawing from these drugs. Thank you.

  • We don’t need to spend any more money on research. We already know animals work when paired with people of all kinds of needs. There may be some legal issues with various industries, states, or jurisdictions as to what can be considered a “service animal.” I think, when we try to stay with cats and dogs as service animals we do much better in their approval. Most people are used to being around cats and dogs. However, some do have allergies or may have a strong dislike, particularly for cats. Horse are not usually “service animals” because they are completely outdoors and have definite size issues, although some dogs are as big as a small horse or pony. Horses, although, are great for bonding and all kinds of positive interactions. As far as “service animals” some dogs and/or cats may be better for some people or some conditions better than others. We already know they use certain dogs for blind or deaf people and other certain conditions. Thank you.

  • I agree with l.e. cox–to start off an article with the name of Benjamin Rush does cause doubtfulness on these “theories.” In my personal opinion, we can have all the therapy, theories, incarceration and even de-criminalizing we want; but, until we dissolve and end this “drug culture” we have in our society where we think “a little pill takes away all ill” we will lose. Every time, we even take an aspirin or tylenol for a headache, we are fueling this “drug culture.” However, the worst offenders are the psychiatrists, etc. and even the traditional medical doctors. We need to find other ways to cure or mitigate our ills than a million little pills. Until that time, until each one of us can say no to drugs, we will not be free. Those little pills are nothing but little satans. Thank you.

  • Someone else, Yes, even when my cat gets on my nerves, she’s a better listener than any therapist or psychiatrist ever was. Plus, there are no crazy, unjustified, abusive power issues. There is just love like it is meant to be. There are so many cats and dogs in the world now; it is a shame we can’t pair a dog or cat with someone who needs support for any reason. Of course, there are some who feel they can’t take care of a cat or dog. My mother is like that as she has mobility issues now. But, for me, as long, as I have a cat as my best friend, I know I am still alive. Plus, my cat, has been like an angel of mercy and healing from Jesus during my withdrawal period from the psych drugs, etc. and now in my adaptation period (as I call it) Even, in my darkest hour during the withdrawal period, my mother would tell me to hang in there because I had just got a cat and that cat needs me. Actually, we need each other. They say I rescued her, but she rescued me. Thanks be to Jesus. Thank you.