Saturday, October 23, 2021

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  • Let’s See… The psychiatrist along with their little helper, the “trained LCSW therapist” “diagnoses” them with some “mental illness” description as listed in the DSM; which is actually more like a horoscope personality description (each one can fit anyone at any one time or all at the same time due to their vagueness and nebulousness) and from that highly scientific decision, they prescribe these psych drugs which affect the brain and body alongside “psychotherapy” which is just a perpetual reduncy to reinforce the psych drugs in both body and brain— and then what happens— the brain and body become the alleged sickness— the symptoms magically appear and reappear— but worse, the body and especially the brain become damaged— some of it may be irreversible. But, no matter what, the psych drugs and the therapy have done their damage. And, although when the person frees him or herself from psychiatry’s evil world, the person now must deal with the brain damage and other “side effects” from the drugs that never ever end.— Oh, did I forget to mention the withdrawal from these drugs, that almost everyone who has taken them must endure. You see, there is absolutely no justification to do this to people. And they do this irregardless of age or maturity of the body and brain. So, I again there is no justification. The entire psychiatric system is corrupt and criminal. The only thing that psychiatry can be do now is to repent of the evil. And those who have been abused by this evil— flee, leave, pay attention to what has been done to you and live your life accordingly but in such a manner that you win and they (psychiatry) lose. Even if it’s in your own mind or by the way you conduct your life and yourself each moment of your life and always be thankful that you have been saved from this evil and are now forever free. Thank you.

  • It is nothing but human hubris who think if there is no scientific evidence then it must not be. Science can explain a lot, but not everything and it is not supposed to; neither is history or art or any other subject. We must realize that we are not supposed to know everything and that many questions must remain unanswered. The realm of the spiritual is just that. We are supposed to take that leap of faith. And unless we don’t take that leap of faith we will never be all we are meant to be. Much of today’s thinking in many subjects, especially science, seems to be bent on preventing us from doing that. Drugs also do that. It is imperative that if we wish to grow as human beings and truly contribute to society, we must fulfill our destiny and take that leap of faith. Otherwise, we will be frustrated and make many useless unwise choices. Thank you.

  • ShavedPrimate, I speak of drugs from someone extremely familiar with psychiatric drugs — maybe, too familiar. I am more than very concerned that you would think of drugs as a tool in a toolbox for one’s mental health. Psychiatric drugs cause all kinds of ills and worse; including brain damage and death. Psychadelic drugs are just another strain of mind-altering drugs which are actually brain and body altering drugs. I can not in good conscience consider any kind of drug in any aspect that can affect the brain in such severe manners. All these drugs are just basically evil. When I consider these drugs, I think of Eve in the Garden of Eden—those who prescribe or advocate for these drugs are like the snake. And those of us who succomb to their temptation are like Eve and yes unless we realize our grievous sinful error, we deserve to be kicked out of the Garden of Eden. But, luckily, we can stop all drug use and repent of our sins. Whatever era this comes from, is unimportant. What is important is to stop the drug culture now and take these evil things out of our tool box now. Thank you.

  • Some over the years have said that schizophrenia as been in-aptly named beccause it is not a splitting of the brain as in right/left brain, etc. I guess the correct answer is :maybe… I am no scientist nor do I play one in my postings; so most of this article appears to be me to just “magical words with latinate origin names.” Does that matter? Yes, because it further divides the alleged intelletual scientist from the rest of us. However, in my opinion, this is not science; not any kind of science. And so as this is not science, drugs are made in utter incompetance and lack of any knowledge that in the end damage the brain. Although schizophrenia they say has been around a long time, in my experience, it is in almost all the cases where the alleged symptoms do not show up until after the individual is so drugged. And, since individuals are so drugged, it would be highly unlikely to get any good readings on anyone’s brain. Of course, this does not even include the fact that we are really are to close to the brain to actually study it and know authoritatively about it’s treatment. Treatment in the alleged mental illness field is like throwing darts at blank old board. So real success is so rare that the patient really gets sicker from it or actually gets sick with symptoms they never had before and that’s success…That is success because in the doublespeak world of psychiatry, success is failure and failure is success. Each person has a right to determine their own course of treatment, diagnosis, etc. but I would dare say if you think you have some sort of mental disorder, you must examine the drugs you take or have taken. Of course, some of the drugs you take you may not know—they could be in the soil your food is grown in or the water you drink, etc. Until, we come to terms with our drug culture and the false labeling we do to ourselves and others, we will never be free or know the truth. Thank you.

  • Number One: There is no way that anyone can truly write or post something on this or any site without bias. Each one of us has our unique bias. Perhaps we should learn to respect bias rather than find fault with it. It is when bias is fraught with deception, lies and gaslighting/bullying that we need to be concerned. I did not see any of this is this article. This was an honest article. This man braved his soul to tell his story. We should respect that.
    Second: All therapy, with or without psychiatric drugs or psychadelic drugs is uniquely dangerous to the body, brain, mind and spirit of each person. Also, beacuse there seems to be no alleged research does not seem to make it so. We do have anecdotal experience of negative effects of psychadelic use. In my opinion, all this hubbub about psychadelics seems to speak of one thing—a deep down desire or wish to return to what we now thinks were simpler times—the 60s Hippie daze. But, this is now 2021. It is imperative that we awaken ASAP and stop relying on drugs for all our petty needs, whether mental, moral, emotional or spiritual; and in many cases, physical. In the Bible, St Paul speaks of getting rid of childish things. Perhaps, if St Paul was living now, he might mean all mind-altering drugs, whether legal or not, whether prescribed or not. We need to stop relying on drugs before they desroy all that know, love, and cherish. Thank you.

  • I realize there are many in these times who think being “anti-whatever” is the way to combat any particular wrong-doing or evil. Although understandable, sadly, the stance of “anti-…” most usually intensifies the wrong-doing or evil one seeks to denounce. Another favorite word of these times is “accountability.” But, “accountability” is just another word that is more favored with numbers, data and analysis; rather than truly assisting people in such a way to solve the problem. I think the author of this piece did an excellent job of telling his story which brings the problem to light and “humanizes” in such a way that others who may have had instances of abuse in other therapeutic settings can relate. Like I have written earlier, just the idea of therapy or a therapeutic setting is dehumanizing and creates a nearly robotic state. The drugs, whether psychiatric or psychadelic, assist mightily in this manner. What we really need is less worship of this kind of thinking—drugs, therapies, etc. are the answer to “my” problems or give “me” spiritual, emotional, mental or whatever enlightenment and more attention to truth and reality. True wellness in life occurs when we allow ourselves to breathe fully, live simply, and be honest with who and what we are. If we stop pretending to be someone we are not or if we stop trying to be someone who we are not by living up to someone else’s or our real or imagined expectations, we can live, really live. We need to stop lying to ourselves, to the world and to our Creator. Thank you.

  • I found the author’s piece to be very enlightening and exceptionally honest in the description of his experiences. The fact that the author decided to share his experiences reflects his caring and moral attribute of being a warning signal to all who contemplate this type of therapy. Actually any and all therapy is inherantly dangerous. Adding drugs to the therapy, whether the drugs are the psychiatric drugs usually discussed on this site or the psychadelic drugs discussed here makes therapy a timebomb. Sometimes, the danger of any therapy is not realized until years later when the person might be significantly more vulnerable or must deal with the physical injuries of the therapy, whether the injury occurs in the brain (its most likely place) or in the body. Anytime you mess with the brain you risk the possiblity of at the very least some kind of brain injury. And, for some this brain injury has left them completely debilitated and disabled. Of course, each person is different and the effects on each person is different. The brain is nothing to mess with and we are just stupid fools when we do. Thank you.

  • In Truth, who cares whether psychology is Western Imposed Colonialism as the title implies? As opposed to other ills that plague humanity and the world, where psychology originates or that it might even in the slightest be related to “colonialism” is a useless argument that seeks to weaken the fact that psychology is nothing but pure evil that has harmed and even killed way too many people all over the world. Psychology and its evil false medical buddy, twin, psychiatry, etc. seeks to break humans into unidentifiable parts and causes humans to essentially break from its creator in heaven. Psychology teaches us that we have no spirit. And psychiatry takes it a step further though its drugging and therapizing. Some assert there is a similarity between Catholicism or Protestantism and psychology; but, I respectfully disagree. As opposed to Christianity, psychology seeks to cause us to split from God and to seek answers elsewhere, amongst other frail, fallible, mortal humans. It is a “false-face.” —a “false-face” that destroys, debilitates, damages, harms and even kills. In this plagues, like I said as opposed to probably some other plagues, we need to be concerned with less where it came from and what it is doing to us all—no matter where we live on this planet. Thank you.

  • I think what you said about a drug’s half-life is very interesting. I think it could partly explain the lengthy and painful withdrawal that many go through from these psych drugs. I am beginning to cconsider that possibly much of the residue from the drugs I took over all those years may still be hiding somewhere in either my body and/or brain and that certain incidents or certain foodstuffs or other things that come in contact with my body and/or brain may activate these residues in some way. When this happens, it seems that I go through a temporary withdrawal type situation or like some sort of an allergic reaction. When I figure out what item is bothering me, I try to eliminate it from my life. One thing is certain is that those of us who have been harmed by these psych drugs need to lead as stress-free life as possible and consider much of what we put in our bodies and much of what we put on our bodies. We should also consider what we might think of as our “media diet”— what we read, see on tv, movies, the internet, etc. Of course, all this is an extremely individual thing and what is harming me may be beneficial to someone else even if we took the same psych drugs, etc. Therefore, I am not saying any one thing is good or bad. Only each person can determine that; but for each person who has been harmed by psych drugs is a never-ending growth journey of both grief and joy. Thank you.

  • I agree. I am actually very allergic to alcohol and developed this allergy even before I was put on all these psychiatric drugs. In fact, none of my intake interviewers at any clinic I went to ever questioned about any alchohol usage prior or present. This was true even for a stint in both a day hospital and as an inpatient at the local “mental hospital.” I am surprised that I lasted so many years on this drugs, but they kept adding and subtracting, and changing the drugs. I can not remember all the drugs I did take for all those years. Now, I can not even take a pill. I can not even get near alcohol even if cooked in some recipe. In fact, now I have developed an allergy to about every drug, especially those that are taken internally. I also have an allergy to so many foods and other substances that I must adjust my life accordingly. I am terrible dinner and/or house guest for sure, I am lucky to be alive and am forever grateful to God for saving my life. Thank you.

  • I am very sorry about what happened to you. Very few of us have positive experiences with what I call “psychiatry, etc.” because it involves more than just the psychiatrists and more than just the psychiatric drugs. I see therapy as dangerous as the psychiatric drugs and may possibly cause its own kind of brain damage. I think therapy and psych drugs are an explosive combination. Add puttin people in the hospital, which in many cases is actually imprisonment and its beyond explosive. All of this is pure evil. There are similarities and differences in each person’s story. Still, I feel there is a certain amount of responsibility each one of us must bear. And, I say this because this is probably the only way we can rid the world of this evil, which I think underpins all of the other evils we are facing now. When I say what I say it does not diminish the pain you or anyone must feel as to how they were treated by these villains. The responsibility that is now in all of our hands who have been treated so horribly is to get our story out and to work in any possible considering our circumstances to assist in ridding our planet of this evil, even if all we do is tell our story on a site like this. I wish you the best and hope your healing from what happened to you goes well. Thank you.

  • I really appreciated your story and its honesty about both your brother’s and your experience. I do agree with sam plover about being cautious with using the terms, “well versus unwell.” It reminds of the term “able-bodied.” When I was forced by vocational rehabilitation into a sheltered workshop back in the 90s, they were always comparing our work against the “able-bodied” and that is how they would pay us, etc. Of course, who was considered “able-bodied” just a staff member. I just commented on an article about how we really need to free ourselves by dropping all labels. I think we need to especially stop labeling ourselves and we need to resist the labeling others and the labeling of us by others. Of course, I know, in particular labeling others is temptation we all fall into at times. And, the other labeling I note is also a temptation in that it makes it so easy to define ourselves. But, it is too easy and all the pieces of our lives seem to fall into place until they don’t. Perhaps, this labeling thing is one of those deadly sins in which we can be so easily tempted and perhaps it is time we work to end it the best we can. Thank you.

  • Sometimes, actually almost all the time the labels we use to describe ourselves and the labels others use to describe us can be extremely important. I think as in the various “labels” listed in this article; “mad” “psychiatric survivor” “disabled” “service user” “consumer” can help how you view yourself and also in which group you feel most comfortable with in dealing with your particular situation. Another term I have heard used is “psychiatric victim.” In my personal opinion, some labels seem more derogotory than others and may cause more hurt and pain to the person. The label, “disabled” can be more of a “legal term” and can be necessary and useful in getting certain “benefits, accomodations, etc.” that one may need for work, education, housing, food, etc. In many ways, we think we need “labels” to describe ourselves and others, too. We look far and wide for a “label that fits” to describe us. But, I think, in the end, we should seek to avoid labeling ourselves and others, unless it is absolutely necessary. I think the very best thing we can do is avoid all the labels; because, a “label” is really another form of diagnosis. Therefore, just another way to validate that we are defective, just a portion of a person because we don’t fit some make-believe super-person mold. I honestly our freedom lies in not labeling ourselves. After all, we are not a pack of frozen peas at the local grocery store. We are breathing, thinking, loving, contributing human beings. Thank you.

  • Strictly speaking and by definition, psychiatric drugs are not a “gain of function” research, because “gain of function” involves the manipulation of “viruses” and other like “biological agents.” However, I think the promulgation of the psychiatric drugs and even their research and construction bears some similarity in that they are meant to do criminal harm in some way. Yet, I would put another caveat here in that there are those who I think have been swept up in their research and production because they were duped into believing they were doing good. Also, I do not want to belabor the point or get into something that would cause a distressful situation amongst commenters, but, any sort of “mandate” regarding a health issue is the same as “forced drugging” as discussed in concerns about psychiatric drugs. Each person has a right to choose what determines goes into his or her body. This is a very big part of much of the concerns about present day psychiatry. This is a fundamental American freedom. Each person also has a right to a right to livelihood and not be isolated for their decision. This is why I stand with those who choose to say no to psychiatry. This is a straight line, a very straight line. As Martin Luther said in October of 1519, “Here I stand. I can not do otherwise.” One can not approve of “health mandates” and disapprove of “forced psychiatric drugging” or vice versa. This is an either/or situation and each one of us must choose. Good or evil. It is your choice. Thank you.

  • Again, I agree with you, l e cox and like you, I don’t agree with Richard—not one bit. But, I also agree with you that we must stick with the evils of this one type of medicine, which is not really medicine at all, but a fraud. However, tragically, this fraudalent medicine we call psychiatry is now becoming like an unstoppable cancerous growth that is infecting all forms and kinds of medicine. But, in order to cure that cancer, we must begin with psychiatry, and realize that it is the clear and present danger behind it all. Thank you.

  • I will papraphrase Shakespeare and I dislike Shakespeare as much as I dislike opera. “the fault (dear Brutus) is not in capitalism or in any other economic situation, but in ourselves.” In many ways, we allowed the evils of psychiatry to perpuate themselves. We allowed ourselves to be seduced by these evils. It became easy—taking these little pills they doled out to us; believeing the lies, making excuses, rationalizing what was happening to us, rationalizing and telling ourselves we really did have that mental illness they said we did and then creating our whole life and lifestyle around it—therapy sessions in addition to the drugs, only socializing what others who are also told they were “mentally ill.” Yes, it was easy until it became hard and at least in my case, as they say the “jig was up” and I almost died. We haven’t the luxury to waste our time—blaiming capitalism or anything else. We must face the truth. We must own up and take the responsibility for what we have allowed be done to us. And then we must live each day—like there’s no tomorrow and we do have a gospel to tell—the gospel of our redemption from this evil that sucked us into a maelstrom and is now sucking the whole world into this same maelstrom on a global scale. Thank you.

  • I think Steve McCrea is right. I do see some resemblance in the covid thing to the experiences I have had and many report here they have had in dealing with psychiatry. However, each person needs to do his or her own research on covid as well as any other medical or any issue and needs to make their own conclusions and their own decisions. This is a free country and behooves all of us to keep it that way. Thank you.

  • J, You are absolutely right. If you ever want to feel terrible about yourself, just let them read either their notes about you or their reports about you. However, traditional medical doctors are now following with the same negative language, where, you the patient are reduced to a subject/object dichotomy. It reminds of this time in college when my “friend/roomate” at the time decided that we should go to the mall and only try on clothes that look terrible on us. How cruel and abusive we were to ourselves? How cruel and abusive this psychiatrists, etc. and now these medical doctors are to us! I say the etc. to include all the LCSWs and other “therapists” that provide cover for the psychiatrists. I say if you have a desire to feel terrible and rotten about yourself and to not ever get healthy and well, go see a psychiatrist or see a traditional medical doctor (unless you absolutely have to see this person for a legitmate medical matter.) Thank you.

  • Perhaps, we should just forgo all names and/or quit trying to rename it. You are right there is a romanticizing involved depending on the name. But, still by nameing it we give it undue power. Where I come from we just call it “being ill” or “getting up on the wrong side of the bed” or some such euphemism. This makes it transitory so we don’t dwell on it and it becomes worse and a big part of our lives. Of course, modern psychiatry with all its lies and drugs, etc. has changed the situation for too many. In the former old way, we learned to rely on each other in our time of need or may be we learned to cope by just being by ourselves for a small time. In the new way, we pay someone exorbitant amounts to give us drugs that damage our brains because they, as they say, “don’t know us from Adam.”—like in the Bible. Thank you.

  • I agree. You can substitute one drug (SSRIs) in this instance for another drug (a psychadelic.) This seems very dangerous to me. As far as enlightenment versus mental health, I will say this—You will find neither either in the “new age” way of thinking or in its sibling, psychiatry, etc. And, you will never ever find it in any drug whether naturallly occurring or synthetic. That famous little mushroom should be of the non-poisonous and belongs on a pizza or as a side to a good grilled steak; it does not belong as a unsanitary trip to who knows where in the mind/brain. Thank you.

  • When I was in my twenties or so, I read Trungpa’s “Shamhala” It is supposed to be a “new age classic.” Actually, Shambhala is tragically representative of so many of the new age cults that swept through the world since the sixties or so. Some have mentioned Hoffman and Osmond. They are referenced in Christopher Hills’ book; “Nuclear Evolution.” I believe his “University of the Trees” in California disbanded after his passing. Everyone one of these reflects an example of the many cults of the “new age.” Psychadelic drugs is just another terrible representation of this, too. All of this is extremely dangerous and does lead to the cult of psychiatry, etc. They take away all human free will to make capable adult decisions so that decisions are made by almost god-like authority. In my opinion, there is really is only one way out of these “cults” because all humans are naturally fallible. To put authority into in one human being, group, or idea is always dangerous. I am sorry for what happened to you and your friends, Mr. Coulson. I am glad that I only read the crazy books and some others too. Sadly, I paid by way of the dangerous psych drugs and therapies, etc. I endured for many years until I almost died. I wish you well and please continue to get your message out. Although Trungpa has passed, there are others like him out there and coming generations need to be warned. Thank you.

  • One can not use “harmful” and “liberating” in the same sentence. If something is “harmful” it can not be “liberating.” This may be considered both personally, uniquely, individually, and that which is in the interest of the “common good” or “humanity as a whole.” That which is “harmful” always leads in some way to some form of imprisonment, whether it includes “bars” as in a legal prison or not. Like I wrote earlier, any drug that seeks to be “mind-altering” is also “life-altering” and I shall I add because it is “brain-altering” if not “body-altering.” It behooves us that if we want to continue existing as viable species contributing to the welfare of this planet, the only answer is working towards a culture that is not the prevalent “drug culture” that has seduced us pretty much like the snake (Satan) did to Eve in the Garden of Eden. Thank you.

  • I am sorry about what happened to you. It took much courage for you to tell your story. I am of the opinion that all therapy is abusive, whether it involves the kinds of abuse you endured or not. I am also of the opinion that the combination of drugs and therapy is nothing but a glimpse into how “hell” might be. But, that is from my personal experience with the psychiatric industry. I am concerned that if psychadelics become utilized in psychiatry, they will be abused to a great extent and that those who should not use them will be coerced into using them. I still consider them unsafe at all costs and as dangerous as the psych drugs now prescribed like candy to people of all ages. One issue is that each one of us is inherantly unique and very few institutions in our society seem to respect that truth. I also believe that we are all succombing to a drug culture which has many negative impacts on our society, even, perhaps to interfering in our natural need to reproduce and continue our species on Earth. Honestly, I cannot ever feel comfortable with any drugs that seek to affect the brain in any manner for any reason. From experience, I know this is dangerous territory. We must consider that if a drug is “mind-altering” it is also “life-altering” and the results could be devastating. Thank you.

  • I am not sure if “personality types” or “ideologies” fits. Perhaps, it might be construed as both one and the same; at least for some persons. It could well be that those who fit your description might not be as uniquely individual (for reasons I don’t know) as the real world and so feel threatened. Thus, they grab power any way possible. Although, I am not necessarily a fan of Joseph Campbell, he noticed how the tallest buildings of an era defined the “values” of that era. In this era, our tallest buildings were not churches or even academic institutions as in earlier eras, but banking and financial institutions. Thus these “grifters” as some would call them would latch onto the “power centers” of the day which are financial institutions. It may very well be important to see which buildings in one’s community are rising to the highest to determine where these “grifters” will land next. Now, how do we get rid oft these “grifters?” I don’t know either. But the myth of Daedulus always comes to my mind. And, we all know what happened to Daedulus. Thank you.

  • It’s extremely difficult to beat an ideology, such as WWII and Naziism. However, we did set them back and attention was brought to their evil ways. And, yes, unfortunately, this ideology has mutated and morphed into different forms as time and technology has progressed. This is true with many different ideologies, but, we can at least neutralize these ideologies for a while. However, we can never close our eyes to them. We must always remain vigilant. Since psychiatry, psychology, is a very prominent ideology right now—blasting itself through every media available, etc. this will need to be approached in a different way. As my father would say, “We need to beat them at their own game.” But the question is; will we. I say, be patient, for we will. It is only a matter of time. Thank you.

  • I may have misunderstood as to where you believed one’s “unconscious patterns” originate. However, I do not quite see why my thread of thinking lacks understanding. I know there are many who probably disagree, but my “thread of thinking” does rest wholey on Christian basis. After being so victimized by psychiatry, psychology, etc. the associated psych drugs and therapies, etc. I have found real truth lies in one’s acceptance as Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I realize that you state you do not see psychology as a way of life, but basically a tool, I guess to help you live your life. I do understand that sort of thinking. I studied psychology and have a BA degree in it. I vervantly thought psychology had the answers and yes, it was the tool to assist me in discovering those answers. But sadly this type of thinking actually became a way of life; as so many types of thinkings like this do. Because psychology and psychiatry do attempt to manipulate the brain in some manner to create outcomes, it can not help but turn a way of life. There is no way to distinguish between the two. And, therefore, that is why at present, psychiatry and psychology, etc. are the most dangerous things to be reckoned with on this planet. Thank you.

  • I agree with you. We need to spend less time worrying about governments and economic systems and more time worrying about the psychopaths and sociopaths running the world. However, I do believe that those freedoms inherant in our Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are the ones that will most likely get us to our goal of not reforming psychiatry,etc. but ending it. Thank you.

  • To imply a liberation from one’s alleged unconscious pattern implies an approval of psychology as a way of life. It also implies that our brains are damaged and broken from the beginning of our lives, if not further back. This, seems, to be a very dangerous concept in that it puts an individual into considering him or herself as “damaged merchandise” from the start. This, type of thinking, leaves the individual open to the psych drug and therapy which just reinforces that theme. In my way of thinking, I can only describe this as a sin. And it is perhaps this sin that starts with the individual and then moves to the whole of society. It is a tragedy. Although, there are many things an adult must teach children, one thing they do not need to be taught is that their unconscious is damaged and needs reform. This makes the unconscious pliable to the whims of mere humans. We need to strengthen our children and ourselves by not seeing ourselves as humans beings with broken brains that need liberation from some idiotic prison. This is the basis for all psychology and psychiatry and a stepping-stone to evil. We need to recognize and accept our unique individual talents and gifts as given to us by God and realize that we are not here on Earth to do our selfish will, but the will of our Creator. Thank you.

  • This is an excellent, well-researched article with a great deal of important details that I, unfortunately, cannot completely comprehend the whole of it. I, partly to mostly, “blame” the “brain injury/damage” that has occurred from my way too many years on these psychiatric drugs, up to perhaps, eight or so at a time in dosages that I cannot remember. One thing that amazingly jumped out was one well recognized name was the name of “Sanjay Gupta” the #10 Ranking in the table of “Top Earners for 2013 Remain Industry Favorites” is the Medical Consultant for CNN News.This is very important, because it highlights how the media is so invested in Big Pharma. This affects not only psychiatric drugs, but all drugs and medical issues that concern the United States and other nations, too. But it is very important to consider how the the media, advertising, etc. does affect the sale and use of these drugs. The media has become a mouthpiece for the psychiatric industry, even to the point that many in the media are no longer fearful and in fact welcome their “baring” of their most intimate details in psychotherapy and the “little pills” they have taken to feel better now and in the past. Their support of these drugs, etc. which like NAMI is basically free advertisement for all this evil is tragic and is part of the uphill battle we must face and that makes it so much easier for these abnormally high payouts to all those listed in these lists created by Robert Whitaker. I know that many blame capitalism. Some say they would prefer socialism but that would not stop this either. In some ways, the fault it in us, because we allow it. It is a renaway train, now we must figure out how to stop it. And the first thing we must do is to work towards disarming the “drug culture” in which we live. The “drug culture” that now believes not only every little ache and pain is cured by a drug, but every little thought and felling. And, in the end what will it give us. What we have now. Many, many people being so harmed by these drugs that any disability once attributed with alleged “mental illnesses” now must be attributed to the “brain damage” and other damages from these drugs. I don’t have an answer just yet, but somehow amongst we must find an answer and it can’t be found in any governmental or economic system, but in us. Thank you.

  • Thank you for telling us about your experience. I am sorry that it happened to you. I thought psychadelics only gave “good trips” no “flashbacks.” It just seems to reaffirm the truth that drugs that target the brain and thus the mind are the most dangerous of all. To experiment with them either with alleged “professionals” or “non-professionals” who think they know all about any of these drugs; psychadelics or psychiatric drugs is basically like traveling a blind, dark alley to nowhere. This is not only dangerous, but very possibly deadly. Yes, we do have a “drug culture” and we need to do our best to work towards ending it. Thank you.

  • This is an interesting article, but, more and more, it seems that “misdiagnosis” like so many of life that remains “hidden” does not discriminate. If for any reason, you find yourself in a “mental health clinic” or in a “psychiatrist’s or therapist’s office”; you will be mis-diagnosed. It is a money game, a power and control game. It is basically evil and nefarious and affects us all, whether or not you are one the mis-diagnosed or not. Will this be the tragedy of the post WWII era ongoing into the twenty-first century? I don’t know. There are so many tragedies. Yet, it may very well be that it is the evil of psychiatry that is underpinning them all like a nefarious bridge to what some call “hell.” Thank you.

  • I doubt if psychotherapy is the key to any type of liberation; whether of the individual or of the “collective” nature. I personally chafe at the word, “collective.” It is way too marxist for my taste; however, psychotherapy does not really promote change or liberation or anything. Psychotherapy is only meant to take up time, promote redundancy, reenforce the psychiatry’s drug regimen, and on the whole make the individual feel helpless, hopeless, damaged, and just a robotic non-person. Psychotherapy is just the wordy arm of psychiatry and psychology and the evil it perpuates which very well might be the ultimate downfall of our society. Thank you.

  • If you say had a “good trip” and have had many “good trips” since the 1960s, who am I to disagree? When I was prescribed psychiatric drugs, I had “good trips”, too. They made me “loopy” and other things until they put me into a comatose state and I nearly died. I had “guides” too. They call them psychiatrists and therapists. I understand completely if you and others who advocate for psychadelics want to distance yourself from these psychiatrists and therapists; but many consider themselves “guides” too; some even make reference to Persephone’s trip into the Underworld and consider themselves as modern day Persephones. So, yes, I can see how you say you have had many “good trips.” But, I am concerned by the fact that so many times we do deceive ourselves about what really happened. I am also concerned what these “good trips” you report could have on the most vulnerable—the young and others, too. We must think what we do. Except for a few things, we must consider if I had children or grandchildren, would I do this in their presence or if they were nearby, if the answer is no, I would say it should not be done. I made this mistake with the psychiatric drugs. I would rationalize taking them by saying that I had no children in my care. This is the worst rationalization ever; because even if I have no children in my care or I rarely see children; they are still affected by what I say and do. In truth, what you say I do not dispute, but I am saddened by it. Are all these “good trips” worth the risk? You might say yes today, but one never knows when the brain/body will rebel; one never knows…Thank you.

  • I know this occurred in 2019 and it is tragic. The even more tragic thing is that it just proves that the nefarious dangers of these psych drugs, including horrific side effects, brain damage and various complications that could lead to death in some manner do not discriminate. Anyone, no matter who, who takes these drugs is subject to this horror and not only is it the patient suffers and might die, but those who around them. I see the ads on tv for these psych drugs and unlike some other drugs, they never mention death as a side effect. Sometimes, they mention suicidal thinking, especially in teens and those over agr 65 or so, but they don’t mention death. They should. These psych drugs can kill even more than the alleged disease they are supposed to be treating. It is becoming more and more clear that it is the psych drugs than cause the very diseases that are written up in the DSM and ICD. And, it is about time, all the mental industry people come clear about this. Who knows what the true death count is each year in regards to these drugs? Who knows? Thank you.

  • Let’s see—according to the psychiatrists—if you deny that you are sick, then you must be sick. Psychiatrists seem to be always in denial of their condition; which is a sickness—projecting their sicknesses onto others (their “patients”) to absolve them of all responsiblity for them to get well, etc. I can’t spell, say or remember the “technical” term that describes this—thanks to the brain damage I received from the psych drugs; due to their sicknesses not mine. It really boils down to that old phrase; “It’s not you, it’s them.” And, sadly, it always is—in so many situations—so many—Thank you.

  • Oddly and most striking about all these so-called studies was that they came after WWII, partly in their alleged attempt to understand why “normal” people did what they did in the Holocaust. Obviously, they found no answers as they used psychology to hurt people and animals, too. Psychology is the “father” of psychiatry. Sadly, I have my BA in psychology. How strange in my memory that much of the nitty gritty details of how they conducted these experiments was glossed over and mentioned ever so briefly. However, while doing my degree, I did work in a lab which did “learning experiments” using little animals we caught in the wild. One of them bit me. What did they teach us? I think nothing except how to waste time and for some of the “experimenters” how to drink coffee. Thank you.

  • Sadly, OCD is usually caused by the psych drugs either while taking them or during the withdrawal phase from them. I was diagnosed with OCD while taking the drugs. It went away when I stopped taking the drugs. However, there is confusion as to whether I even had OCD or whether it was just in the psychiatrist’s mind. This is all the DSM is in its many useless variations; the same with the ICD—just some made up words in the minds of psychiatrists who realize that the only way to make a living for them is to make up lies that will basically capture their audience as prisoners and hostages in a world where although the sun is shining, it is raining in their minds and vice-versa. It is all dangerous mind-game with drugs and therapies as the weapons. OCD is one of those weapons. Please don’t fall for it. Thank you.

  • Yes, if you damage the brain, you damage the soul and you break the spirit. This appears to be psychiatry’s nefarious experiment and goal. However, when you wean yourself from the psych drugs, the therapies, and even the psychology you do get your soul back and a chance to restore the spirit. Sadly, you must still endure various amounts and types of residual brain damage, which is highly individual depending on the person, the amount of years involved in this evil system, the drugs taken, amounts taken, maybe even how the person got off the drugs. I don’t think that it can entirely be predicted how one’s life will be after the drugs, but even at it’s worse, in my thinking, it is one million times better than taking the drugs, the therapies, etc. At the very least, that lifestyle is extremely demoralizing. And, yes there is that “what if” when it concerns the time we were embroiled in this evil system. Of course, almost everyone has a “what if ” about something if they live beyond their teens. But, this “what if” may be different as our lives during this time was truly stolen from us. And, why…It is has been said there are more casualties of war than that which occurs on the battlefield. But, which war? Thank you.

  • Please I am not a “living document.” I am not just someone who has “lived experience.” And, I am not a victim either. Once I said I was not a victim, but had been victimized. I am just me. I am a human being. There is no one like me in the whole wide world. We may share similar experiences and that may help in bringing the evils of psychiatry to light so others may not fall into their dark, dangerous pit and suffer from the damage and injury we have, most notably the brain damage. But, there is one important point here; since I was through the grace of God able to survive this horror, I shall fight for my right to be the unique individual I am with my unique gifts, talents and skills, etc. That is all I really wanted in the first place, but no no one really heard me. They just drugged me and said I had a severe and pervasive mental illness. They were wrong! And I have survived to prove it! And my prayer that many more will have very similar successes. Thank you.

  • They diagnosed me too with OCD after both a pencil and paper test from one psychiatrist and after being drugged from all these psychiatrists. What a Joke; a tragic painful joke! I bet that most, if not all OCD diagnoses are caused by the psychiatric drugs. However, do you know who was more obsessed than I was? My psychiatrist and therapist…They wanted details on even how I took a shower! When I was taking these psychiatric drugs, many times my brain felt raw and it felt like it was itching inside. I checked with other people in the waiting rooms of the clinic who said they had similar sensations. Luckily, these issues did go away when I stopped the drugs. Yet after probably about twenty years or so on these drugs and at times I would take maybe nine or more prescriptions (I was so drugged I can’t remember) I am much better now. I went through withdrawal and now I consider myself in the adaptation phase. Each day is a learning experience. Each day, I relearn the old me and relearn the new me; but I have at least ten or more years, that I msut sadly consider “lost years” with very few memories. Thank you.

  • I think whether or not distress comes from inside a person or outside a person should be a moot point. The important thing might be is there distress? Most problems that could be termed distress actually have practical solutions. Psychiatry just wants to drug and therapize the person and say it is all because the brain is broken. The brain is not broken. If the brain were broken, the person would be dead. What they continue to deny is that each brain, like each person is unique and there are unique solutions to the problems each person faces within the truth of absolute right and wrong. It is just easier to deal with the lie that truth is relative and that we are all alike—a virtual collective; but we are not robots. We are human. And psychiatry, etc. needs to treat us as such. Thank you.

  • The analogy with alcohol is very interesting. The sad part is that psychiatric drugs do lower your inhibitions as does alcohol or why would they not prescribe these drugs allegedly for anxiety, etc. The other point to be made in this analogy is that the truth is they have made up alleged mental illnesses to fit their prescribing and dispensing of these dangerous psychiatric drugs and therapies. However, a person is probably more likely to get stopped for drunk driving than drugged driving; but the latter does happen. Still, the main point here is that psychiatric diagnosis and their associated treatments are not only very dangerous, but a joke on all who have bought into their deception and lies. Thank you.

  • Back when they started drugging people for alleged mental illness, a woman who wanted to become pregnant, who had been so diagnosed had to choose “do I want to go off the drugs and get pregnant or is too much of a risk?” They even made tv dramas on this subject. However, a few years ago or so, I read of a woman who became pregnant and still took her SSRI drug throughout the pregnancy. She did receive pushback from readers of that particular magazine where her story ran; but she defended her decision because her baby came out with “five fingers and five toes” and she didn’t get suicidal or suffer from depression. Yet, other non psychiatric drugs are advertised to warn a pregnant womans not to take the drug. So, this craziness of this lady confused me. Especially, since, I know how very dangerous these drugs are. I am past the time of my child-bearing hurried along even quicker by taking these psych drugs for too many years, but to think of someone who would continue taking these drugs while pregnant and justifies taking them just appalls me to the 100th degree. And, now this article confirms a lot of my fears. Most health “experts” even dissuade the pregnant woman from either drinking alcohols or smoking; so why take an extremely dangerous drug like an SSRI or any psychiatic drug? But, will these women listen or will they be so selfish and so blind to the truth, that they will continue to harm their unborn baby? Just because a baby is born with five fingers and five toes does not mean everything is alright. Sadly, so many parents can attest to this fact. But, why do we need to endanger future generations because of our lame addictions to dangerous drugs, even those prescribed by psychiatrists and other health professionals? Thank you.

  • I mostly agree with you again. I have read of those who consider food a drug. I know food can be very helpful in combatting various physical issues. For me, personally, eating tuna seems to help ward off knee pain and such. And that’s better than a dangerous, expensive drug. I do need to watch out for the mercury at times and sometimes I call a “tuna holiday or days.” if needed. The problem with most drugs, including psychadelic is that they are synthetically made of human made ingredients. That adds to their danger and to the very very high probability like psychiatric drugs of causing brain damage. For some vulnerable people, even meditation can cause brain damage. We do many times forget how individually we have been created. So, therefore, many alleged scientific studies do not always catch that fact and truth. The other point that is easily forgotten is the bias of the experimenter. Therefore, if I would do an experiment, how I think the result should be can determine how the result turns out. That is why anecdotal evidence can be so important, as the stories many have presented here as to how psychiatric drugs and even therapies, have damaged them, especially their brains. Any drug, synthetic or otherwise that is meant to change any aspect of the brain always has the potential to do damage. Sadly, I did not realize that when I was having those prescriptions for the psych drugs filled. Now, as I know this, I would not even think of taking a psychadelic drug in any form, including marijuana. And, I would advocate or advise anyone to do that. still, we are adults and we can make our own decisions. But, we must consider legal ramifications or the millions of other ramifications, we must deal with as contributing members of society. The world needs us, even if we have been damaged. We do not need to damage ourselves more with psychadelic drugs, too. Thank you.

  • With me, they described me as having “severe and pervasive mental illness.” Therefore, I, especially do not like the word, “severe” especially. The word, “pervasive” is not used as often. However, the word, “severe” is used a lot about weather events. I think this contributes to my fear of storms. I also think that this fear is also related to after-effects of the psych drugs and therapies, etc. But, having survived, several tropical storms, hurricanes, a tornado, and even several strong snowstorms doesn’t help, either. I do think if I had not been so drugged and subjected to so much therapy, I would have withstood all those a little better and not now be quite so fearful, but still remain alert, if necessary. Thank you.

  • Perhaps, it is my, but I am dumbfounded by all those who advocate in one way or another for the use of psychadelic drugs. I am even more dumbfounded to those who suggest that those who have been harmed by psychiatric drugs would benefit by using psychadelic drugs even minimally. I also think there is a lot of “hair-splitting” by what is a drug and what is not a drug. There is absolutely no thing as a “good trip.” This is a lie and is the last thing we need to tell ourselves or the generations growing up now or anytime. This is not healthy. Even caffeine or sugar as much bad press as it gets is healthier. I don’t get it. I have seen nothing from either the 1960s or 1970s that is good about these drugs. And, I was a child raised in those years. Please stop spreading these lies about these drugs. It is imperative we have a culture that no longer worships drugs. It is imperative to our existence as a human species; so we don’t go the way of the dinosaurs—-extinct! Thank you.

  • I remember it was very common for someone to say that you have “sabotage” your goals, your successes or whatever. It is similar to that old line, “You are not working up to your full potential.” But, who is deciding this for you? Not you? It is probably an authority figure; teacher, psychiatrist, supervisor, parent or someone who feels it is their duty and obligation to take up the parental role for you. Now, I admit, some of these parents, teachers, etc. may not know better or really know what to say. Their success is in some manner determined by your success. And, this has a lot of implications and it usually begins in our school systems, and progresses to our work situations and the mental illness industry. But, when we fail are we really sabotaging ourselves or not working up to our full potential. It could be just our unique learning curve or it could very well we are trying to do something we are not really intended to do. I do not necessarily getting rid of the grading system or such; but I do advocate a more individualized approach. But we really need to let people be who they are meant to be—people of all ages, etc. And we really need to help people discover who they are and what they are really meant to do; help them discover their natural talents, etc. And those weaknesses or non-strengths we all have. Well, we need to quit making people feel stupid for what they can’t do and tell that what they can do is definitely needed in this world or they would not have been gifted by God with these talents, etc. We need to stop telling people they are “self-sabotaging” or not “working up to their full potential.” We need to love each other just as we are uniquely made. Thank you.

  • I think I mostly agree with you. I would prefer that in most cases people would choose a “non-drug” way; but, especially anything involving what we call “psychiatric cases.” I think we have a “drug culture” in our society that is eating away at us in so many ways and may be our downfall. There seems to be absolutely no justification to use “psychadelics” for either spiritual or emotional distress. Like psychiatric drugs, they do more harm than good and to think that if you went to a psychiatrist to get a prescription for these drugs, etc. and life would be improved; you are only decieving and betraying yourself. Yes, I think they do appeal to “New Agers” Many in the “New Age” movement have written about these drugs speaking of them in a “positive” light such as Timothy Leary. However, it seems if you would stick to “New Age” precepts, you should not need them. But, then, the “New Age” is really just another branch of psychiatry. It is a deception, a lie and a betrayal. The “New Age” pretends to have a more spiritual link to it; while psychiatry pretends to have a more scientific/medical link to it. Both are highly fraudalent. Both promise a life where you need work for nothing and all is “magical.” Both feed off each other. This is because when that “New Age” bubble burst, you go crying to psychiatry for help and answers. You get neither; just like the “New Age.” There maybe some good psychology out there somewhere; but absolutely not in Psychiatry or in the “New Age.” Thank you.

  • Sadly, in that scenario, the misrepresentations will only get worse and continue. Psychiatric drugs themselves are clear examples and the extensive prescribing of these drugs is evidence. Psychadelic drugs are just another version of mind-altering drugs like the psychiatric drugs that cause brain damage and damage to other body parts, too. Psychiatric drugs have been called “pills for personality.” Psychadelic drugs could be called the same. But, the concept of changing the personality through drugs, as we well know is nothing but dangerous. Except for probably asteroids like the dinosaurs or the fear of nuclear war, only psychiatric drugs and their sibling psychadelic drugs have the capacity to put the human race in danger of extinction. Thank you.

  • On the whole, I was lucky in that I went “cold turkey” on almost every psychiatric drug and survived. In fact, I can not remember tapering. I did taper earlier, but did end up back as “psychiatric patient” taking the same drugs, etc. However, I took these drugs for almost fifteen or so years after that tapering episode. I took up to seven or eight different drugs a day until I basically shut down—I went comatose—I ended up in the hospital. I spent eleven days in the hospital; the first six or so being “comatose.” The doctors first thought I would be a “vegetable” then I got to the point they thought I would “long term care” and then just some “rehab” with a “rehab person” coming to my apartment everyday. But, then the day I got out of the hospital, I called them and cancelled their services. However, it took me two more years until I competely walked away from psychiatry, etc. And they tried this and that pill and I stayed on lithium. I moved, too. But then two years later, my body and brain finally rejected the last pills. By that time, I think I was developing lithium toxicity. The psychiatrist wanted to keep me on lithium as protection. I took the prescription, filled it, took one pill, immediately gagged and threw it up. I then threw away the bottle and have never taken any of these evil psychiatric drugs again. I have no idea if how it happened to me is really good for anyone. However, there is a warning here in that in one is not careful, the body and brain may revolt. However, I did got through an eventual testy withdrawal period. Now, I say I am in my adaptation phase and each day I learn more and more about myself. But I am very highly sensitive to certain foods, smells, textures, etc. My sleep schedule is strange as compared to other people. And, I can not take any drugs, even for pain. I was already allergic to alcohol, now I don’t even go near it not even to cook. I also allergic to odd things like glue and paint, so although I do art, it limits how I can safely express myself. But, to me, that’s quite alright. I am alive and I am in gratitude to Jesus everyday for the gift of my life. Thank you.

  • Those who claim that psychadelic use assists them in maintaining spiritual enlightenment/ health or emotional/ mental health or helps them in any way are only lying and deceiving themselves. Psychadelics cause brain damage just as psychiatric drugs do. They just seem “pretty” maybe partly because they have been outside the traditional arenas or because they seem to be a “radical rebellion” or their association with new age and other alternative philosophies. But, buyer beware; these drugs are dangerous. If you need to feel better, as awful as “junk food” is or can be; it is better than psychadelics or even psychiatric drugs. And, if you want to have a spiritual experience, take a walk, do art, write, try exercise, call or email a friend, go to your local church, synagogue or temple, or just be still and pray. Actually, this list is good if you want to avoid psychiatric drugs or psychiatric therapy. Any one of these is less damaging than psychadelics, psychiatric drugs, or even therapy. Thank you.

  • In the United States, people have a right to refuse treatment, to make demands for specific treatment or question treatment without impunity or without doctors refusing to treat a patient. The only time, it is truly ethical for a doctor to refuse treatment is in a case in which he or she is involved, such as the patient is a family member or close friend. When that occurs, the doctor is obliged to find another doctor for the patient. To do otherwise would be against the Hippocratic Oath they take. As a patient, you can refuse treatment or ask for treatments. The doctor may refuse to prescribe the specific treatment as a doctor did one time for me when I asked for a refill of an opiate based cough syrup when I had pneumonia one time years ago. If the patient does not like thism, he or she can find another doctor. It is incumbent upon the medical profession to treat each person as a unique and individual worthwhile human being. Sadly, this doesn’t always occur and to champion doctors who practice this way dishonors all and even worse assists to make a sicker world in so many aspects. Thank you.

  • The author, Peter Simons, definitely shows how they use “science mumbo-jumbo” which are just “Latinate” words used to subjugate those they believe are inferior to them. In this case, it is the patients who have been prescribed anti-depressants. Well, the truth is there is no “relapse.” What is happening is nothing less than full-scale withdrawal like someone might endure and suffer from if having been addicted to opiates or alcohol or other drugs. So, what does this prove? Anti-depressants are as addictive and as dangerous as the opiate or the illegal drugs or even alcohol (a populat legally accepted drug that can be highly addictive for some.) I am actually allergic to alcohol; which is something no one in the mental illness industry asked me in any medical history, etc. interview. These researchers just want to deny the facts and the truth anti-depressants are addictive and dangerous and those who prescribe them are nothing more than legally acceptable pill-pushers. Thank you.

  • I, too, am sorry for all your experiences. My body and brain too eventually broke down from all these horrific psych drugs when I became comatose, could not be awaken, and ended up in the hospital. However, unfortunately, it took me another two years until I finally got off all the drugs and walked away from psychiatry. In those intervening years, they still kept trying different drugs on me. What seems to be so tragically common is how they start you on one drug or maybe two; stating that you have an alleged diagnosis; then those drugs cause symptoms; you get more drugs and more diagnoses. I am now under the opinion and I think others would agree with me that if the drugs cause trouble, you were never “sick” in the first place. Isn’t odd how may people do have troubles with these drugs? However, they are brainwashed to be in denial and force-fed fear that if they gave up the drugs, they would be sicker. Of course, then withdrawal does set in and that is used against them. So many do get back on the drugs, much to their unknowing peril. I am so glad that you and your family have the sense to not trust the doctors and not get back on the drugs. You are still young and now also very wise, so, I think you have a bright future ahead of you. Actually, when anyone says no these psych drugs and walks away from psychiatry, the future gets so much brighter and the sun really shines again for them. Thank you.

  • The only way to freedom from the pain of akathasia or any of the horrific side effects from these psychiatric drugs is to stop taking them and to walk away from absolutely any psychiatrist, therapist or any related “professional”, “para-parofessional” or volunteer. I will say not all “psychology” or all “brain research” is dangerous; but anything that spends the bulk of its/their time in alleged abnormalities is dangerous and damaging. It is no wonder that so many feel like giving up, because the pain is so terrible. But, you can be free. You can regain your true self back. You do not necessarily have to live in fear. You may have to make different choices than a friend, family member, or neighbor may make. You may have change the expectations you may have had about yourself; however, you do not need to give up your dreams. But, realize that the dreams you thought you had for yourself may not be the right dreams for you. I found my way out through my personal acceptance of Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Although, to me, that seems the most optimal way, I understand that they may not work for you. The main thing is to be gentle with yourself, be kind to yourself, work to love yourself again. I confess that I still have my fears. Life is not always a “bowl of cherries.” However, my mind is clearer now and my body doesn’t do as many wierd things. I still have brain damage fro the drugs I must contend with and am learning how to adapt, but that is mostly an experience unique to me as it is to everyone who’s been presecribed these horrific drugs. The other thing is that now I can feel again; even on the bad days. I am not a dead asleep walking robot no more. I can no longer be classified as one of the “walking dead.” I am alive and so very grateful for my life. I did not realize how precious it was until I did almost die from these psychiatric drugs. Thank you.

  • I am not sure if the language can be described as “stigmatizing” per say. And I am not always sure how it reflects racial or gender bias, but all is possible. However, I do remember even hearing the results of the reports of my particular encounters with psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists, and traditional medical doctors. Most of it cast me in a very negative light. I felt like I was more of an object, not even a subject. The words used described me like a “non-person”, a “robot.” I am sure they would probably describe a piece of furniture in their waiting rooms in a more understanding and kind light. Sometimes, these “health care professionals” work so hard to distance themselves from their patients because they are “trying to take care of themselves.” that no one is taken care of… all suffer. My experience with most of the psychiatric profession and that includes therapists, etc. and even now this has extended into many traditional medical specialties is: don’t call me; I’ll call you—well, maybe, it depends, etc. Thank you.

  • Actually, despite what some say; psychiatry already diagnoses “social conditions” which is why it fails time and time again. The DSM is not based on the individual person but an aggregrate of alleged symptoms by a group of mythical people. If psychiatry were truly concerned with individual, the “patient” would never be compared to “able-bodied people” or the alleged collective normal. Even in individual therapy, psychiatry is a Group activity. It is nothing but lies, deception and betrayal for those who profit from the mental illness industry to state anything else. Perhaps, we might ask for an apology and the truth. Thank you.

  • How nice! In your post, you say that “service users” can make their own decisions; but, the words employed in your post betray everything. And I single out the phrase, “service users.” I have heard many times regarding those who seek out knowingly or unknowingly the evil of psychiatry; client or patient or the most popular—-but “service users” is a new low—Thank you.

  • That’s so very odd. As I have been prescribed these psychiatric drugs and absolutely never did I think more clearly while taking these drugs. In fact, the difference in my clarity was so large, that my parents would not let them be their “go-to” person legally or otherwise if their were in a medically compromised situation. When I stopped taking the drugs and even during the withdrawal phase, I spoke and thought so much more clearly that all who know me remarked how intelligent I again sounded. In fact, while on these drugs, there were times I could not even sign my name legally. So, what is claimed in your post seems to not resonate with my reality and truth and very probably the reality and truth of others prescribed these psychiatric drugs. I am sorry to say this, but, this is dangerous talk that costs lives in so many different ways. Please read the various articles and posts of those who can tell you first-hand what really happens to the brain because of these drugs. They cause brain damage and worse. I would advise a friend to stay away from these drugs just as much as I would I would advise him or her to stay away from “illegal drugs.” In fact, these drugs are so absolutely evil, I would even warn my “enemies.” Thank you.

  • The brain can not be forced what it can or should not do; either uniquely and individually or on a total human level. This is true for non-human creatures, too. When the brain is forced into such situations, there is damage from slight to major. Psychiatric drugs, psychadelic drugs, and even some other drugs will do that. Synthetic drugs are especially suspect. Of course, any kind of trauma to the brain can affect it and that includes exterior trauma, such as sports injury or car accident or interior trauma such as illness or a trumatic incident in one’s life. However, as far as interior trauma goes, what is traumatic for one person may not be traumatic for another person. Such that, if you are lousy, say in math and take an accounting job that can induce trauma. We also know war and natural disasters do cause brain-damaging trauma. And, of course, nutrition and diet affects the brain and again that is highly unique to each person. Also, there are some people who are more highly sensitive to their environment than other people and there are other people who thrive on risk and sensation. The 90s were supposed to be “The Decade of the Brain.” But, we failed on this one. We forgot to guide people to learn to take care of their brain; to listen to its needs and to find a way to spend more of their time using their God-given strengths and less of their time trying to do the impossible; making their weaknesses into their strengths. We need to take care of our brains as if they are our children; with kindness, gentleness and patience and we need to listen to our brains as if they were a wise parent or grandparent. If these “analogies” don’t fit you, please fill in the blank with what works for you. Thank you.

  • In my case, as regards withdrawal, I mostly “toughed it out.” After my nearly comatose state which put me in the hospital, the “doctors” abruptly withdrew all drugs from me, which included two anti-psychotics, valium and two SSRIS. I remained on lithium. For two years after that and through several doctors, they tried and failed a few different anti-psychotics including seroquel and zyprexa. Basically, they were useless and caused very uncomfortable side effects. I still remained on lithium. I, then, became concerned that I had lithium toxicity as I had been on lithium on and off for over twenty years. Finally, I got to the point that I could no longer take any pills and every pill I took, I basically threw up, including lithium. I noticed that after a night or so of no pills, I felt better like I was “clean” inside. This was how I felt after a horrible reaction to alcohol which caused me to stop drinking some years earlier. I told this, the psychiatrist and that I did not want to take any moredrug; so the psychiatrist, who in her idiocracy, persisted in writing me a prescription for lithium as a protection. I never saw that psychiatrist again or went back to that clinic. I walked away. I still had to go through “withdrawal” which at times was excruciating, but I “toughed” it out and I, personally, am a better person for it. However, I would not suggest or advocate this for anyone. How one withdraws from any drug or drugs is a uniquely personal decision that should be tailored to each person’s unique health needs. But, as usual, almost all these decisions are left not up to the patient, but to some doctor or maybe another health provider who may or not have the best interest of the individual at heart. Thank you.

  • I think we should attend to the subject at hand, whiich is the possible relapse of anti-psychotic drug use. Like illegal drugs, at times, one’s environment may be part of the cause, however, there is so much more at play here that needs to be understood. We can spend all day and night discussing how terrible life is and the hand of cards we think we have been dealt, but it does not help the cause of freeing people from the use of anti-psychotics and other psychiatric. But, in the end, it will still boil down to the individual and his or her determination to remain psychiatric drug free. In most cases that means walking away from psychiatry all together, including therapy. It may also mean finding a place to live that assists one in being and feeling safe from the evils of psychiatry. We must always remember it is psychiatry that is the evil, not even its stepsister, psychology, can come close. Why is psychiatry, the evil, because it is, to be blount, diabolical (devil-inspired.) So, the first step is to just say no to psychiatry and leave the extra, possibly disgusting “fluff” behind. Thank you.

  • Yes, this whole drug thing like all human things is unique to each individual. We can tell people how we went through something like withdrawal from these drugs, but, sadly each person must meet the fire-breathing dragon him or herself and tame it. And that timeline, like everything else involved in this is mostly specific to each person. We do have some shared experiences and that is helpful. The best we can do is to be encouraging, helpful, and comforting. We can also be there to listen to them and help them to get what they need, especially at the very worst moments. I think it is by our very example of strength and “success” that we can help others who must go through this personal “hell” too. Thank you.

  • I am just not sure that we can ever have accurate, good data about any health research, even if well-intentioned. It is impossible to control all the variables when the subject is human. We try to use non-human animals in our research, but they are a poor substitute. As we human beings are the subject in question, we are too close to the subject to make adequate assumptions. Additionally, each one of us is probably sufficiently biased that we would likely interfere in the results whether we meant to or not. We really need to be honest about this and stop lying to ourselves, but there is a lot of money involved, in addition to things like power and control, so this is tragically unlikely at present. But, even more tragic is how this mostly fraudalent research endangers and damages so many lives. Thank you.

  • Whether one relapses or not is most probably an individual thing; as is withdrawal and even the responses to the side effects of any drug, including psychiatric drugs and thus, the anti-psychotics. It is the fact that each one of us is such a unique individual that has caused the most distress for not only psychiatry, but also traditional medicine and even education, government and most of the institutions that serve people. Many would like to scoff at individualism, but it endemic to all regardless of any other consideration. Unfortunately, many nations either want to supress or deny it in more profound ways than the US. Therefore, I would consider any of these studies somewhat suspect. In my own unique personal experience, I found that an “abrupt withdrawal” was more successful than any other in preventing relapse. However, that could be very dangerous for others. However, when I looked back, I could see how this was appropriate for me. As earlier, I went “cold turkey” from alcohol and never looked back. There have been other things I have gone “cold turkey” from and never went back. Of course, there are some things I have been unable to wean myself from… Some of it is due to my personal determination and some of it is due to my memory of what that “whatever” did to my brain/body. The question is how is anyone to know what to do has to what is best for them; since obviously psychiatry, like so many other institutions and other entities, refuse to acknowledge the unique individuaity of each person; seeing them only as a member of a particular, prescribed group, whatever group that might be. Thank you.

  • Yes, there is a “model” but this “model” is dangerous and damages, maims and kills. This “model” is the prime example of how psychiatry has destroyed psychology. And, if you notice, those concepts that exist outside the psychiatry’s framework which sees the human being as a potential for illness rather than health and wellbeing are quickly ostracized, criticized, even censored and cancelled. The real problem with psychiatry, etc. is that if you aren’t “sick” they will make you “sick” to prove their point. Thank you.

  • “body, mind and world.” What happened to the soul and spirit? When you only consider body, mind and world, you have a totally secular viewpoint. If the reductionist philosophy is singled out as a failure, then this particular concept may be beyond failure. It actually sounds like more of a title for a sitcom on tv than anything that is real. Perhaps, that is the trouble with the holistic viewpoint, is that it is the actual reductionist concept, reducing each unique individual to something even less than an old classic tv rerun on a Saturday afternoon. Until we consider the spirit and soul of the individual, we will not ever reach the body and mind. The is the true, real and only wholism and why psychiatry fails and so much of the 21st century is in disarray. Thank you.

  • At one time, the neuroleptics aka “anti-psychotics” were called “major tranquilizers.” The “minor tranquilizers” being the benzos; valium, klonopin, etc. I think they first thought it softened the blow to call them “major tranquilizers” when prescribing them. But, then I am sure that they soon realized that calling “neuroleptics” “major tranquilizers” didn’t sell. One surely can’t make a tv commercial and call them “major tranquilizers.” The thing is that for most people, probably all, there are serious side effects, but, that is glossed over by the psychiatrists and their little lcsw buddies. But, those serious side effects damage, maim, and even kill. The other point is, I think, if the drugs don’t work or cause such serious side effects that can’t be used, very probably, there is nothing wrong with you and it’s all in the mind/head/brain of the psychiatrist and his or her lcsw buddies and not in your mind/head/brain at all. Thank you.

  • Yes, it’s a “positive mess” and a “positive” way to increase the need for hospitals and morturaries. Yes, it’s “positive.” I believe Someone Else mentioned drugs lead to more drugs. Yes! That was the idea that they tried to put in our brains in the sixties, seventies, eighties, etc. Marijuana was considered the “gateway drug.” Marijuana may still be a “gateway drug” but so are anti-depressants and almost any other psych drug; because like candy, one drug always leads to another and another, etc. But, they know that, don’t they. And, by the way, I used to dream of goin to New Zealand, but, now longer, it is just as corrupt and big pharma financed as almost all so-called “developed” countries. Thank you.

  • I agree with Steve McCrea. 20% is exceptionally generous. I would guess it could even be as high as 80%. I see this “research” released to the public mostly through media outlets. What they seem to base their research results on probably would have gotten me with either a D or F in my experimental psychology class in college and we already know how questionable psychology is as related to any science. There are usually so many questions as to variables and etc. In the end, what this does is make any science and health research so questionable, one wonders who really is being dumbed down. However, in the end, all this really does is make a less than healthy population. But, few have figured that one out, yet. Thank you.

  • I am sorry, but I do not like anyone telling me how and what I should and should not see or think. Sadly, I feel demeaned by your very words. As far as the connection between Prohibition and the Depression, I became first aware of the connection on a Ken Burns special on Prohibition that I saw on PBS a few years ago. It does make perfect sense to me especially in regards to how I was taught in history classes in college which spent a lot of time on cause and effect in history. As far as law enforcement and psychiatry; psychiatry is by far the most corrupt. At times, law enforcement does take cues from psychiatry; but are not inherantly corrupt as psychiatry. Much gets blow out of proportion in regards to law enforcement because we have been made sensitive to them via the mass media and other sources. Unfortunately, mass media singles out law enforcement and totally ignores psychiatry’s corruption. Sometimes, much of what happens does occur because of judges at various levels in the system. As far as psychadelics, just because research seems to show that they do not cause brain damage does not mean it does not happen. Many times, true research is hidden for the more flamboyant or even the false kind that generates profits. I believe someone in another post to another article on this site mentioned how psychiatric drugs produce artificial trances. I believe psychadelic drugs do something similar. It would seem to me that just that fact, as we know psychiatric drugs do cause brain damage would indicate that psychadelic drugs could do the same and probably do. I was concerned about psychadelic drugs before my incursion in to psychiatric drugs, etc. but now I am more concerned. I just can not approve of the use of psychadelic drugs for anyone and hope that laws can be maintained in place to keep them illegal for the safety of each and every one. Thank you.

  • Grace, You commented about “eye floating.” I think there has been some confusion as to what that means. I am not sure what that means to you. However, I do know that when I was on these evil psych drugs, I had cataracts much earlier than anyone else in my family. My uncle just had cataracts and he is in his eighties. I was much younger, being in my late forties/early fifties. Honestly, I don’t know the year and my exact age; because the years I was on the drugs, are basically “lost years.” As I have very little memory what happened in those years. What few memories I do have are a real blur. Of course, even before that and after that, my memory has always been very poor on dates and specifics like that. But, I lost that important memory that sustained me—the memory that I could at any time, at any age, close my eyes and be in the actual place and time of that which I had experienced in the past. I lost that for those years and it has been vague since the years I have been in withdrawal from the drugs, etc. However, that may be good, but the withdrawal years weren’t so great and rather confusing in so many ways. But, I do have a lot of the memory back that was prior to the years I was so heavily into these psych drugs and going to these therapy sessions and the other hogwash they put me through. If you can find an eye doctor, you can trust, you may be able to have them test for cataracts. Unlike other doctors, at least in the US, eye doctors don’t seem to ask a lot of unnecessary, intrusive questions and are mostly intent on just the eyes. Other than my cat’s vet, they are about the only doctors I still trust. Thank you.

  • There is no such thing as “medication-free mental health treatment.” Therapy is a drug, an addiction, also. It is just basically a non-chemical interferance into the body and brain. But, it is addictive and repetitive. The “patient” develops a dependence on the “therapist.” The “patient” begins to feel that no problem can be solved without the “therapist’s direction.” If the “patient” can not see the “therapist”, a form of “withdrawal” can set in. The “patient” may actually display anger or rage or sadness and may direct that at innocent individuals. The “therapist” becomes and even acts like “God” to the “patient.” Of course, this is taken as another sign that the “patient” has and is need of the “mental illness diagnosis” given him or her and of course, the drugs, too. This is all an incorrect assumption by psychiatrists and therapists and the etc. people. This is just bullying and gaslighting. No, this is wrong. This is why “therapists” are just as dangerous as the “psychiatrists” and why “medication-free treatment” is nothing but a lie conceived to keep healthy people in some sort of unnecessary bondage. Thank you.

  • I comment a lot how this sort of tragedy happens in the US; but, sadly your article shows how this abuse from psychiatrists, etc. is a worldwide terror. I am sorry for all that you have gone through and continue to go through. It seems to be so many times a simple thing that causes people to damaged by these drugs; insomnia, job loss, job and career confusion, grief from the loss of a loved one, etc. What your article highlights is how the psychiatrists “assume” from your body’s and brain’s response to these drugs the diagnosis they should give you. I now think that a poor response to a drug in some way actually means you did not nor ever had that alleged disease (and since they are mostly made up diseases) it seems more and more probable. What you are going through took many years to get to until my body and brain just said no more, you’re not giving these horrific drugs to me anymore. The psychiatrists did not like that. I walked away from them forever. I do pray that you will get through this and come out on the other side. I also pray your mother will open her eyes to the dangers of psychiatry. I do think it does get better, but each one of is so individual (which psychiatrists, other doctors and even educators and others want to deny for their laziness, not ours) I just am unable to give you any timetable. But, please take heart, since you published your article, many now will be praying for your success and wellbeing. Take care. Thank you.

  • I do not believe all drugs should totally be gotten rid of, but we do need to make a genuine assessment of which drugs are useful and which are dangerous. One of the biggest problems is the idea that all drugs are good for all people; that is not paying attention to the individual and their needs, etc. I do know there are some speciific drugs out there that have saved lives and should be used when necessary. If possible, though, it is still the individual’s choice whether to be prescribed or use that drug. But, in life or death instances, when the person is unable to make a decision, I am not against it. I only pray the right drugs for the person are utilized. The main thing we do need to do is deemphasize this “drug culture” we now inhabit. Getting rid first of these psychiatric drugs which maim and kill daily people of all ages is the obvious first step. I do not know if the Prohibition era led to corrupt law enforcement. Personally, I do not think law enforcement is corrupt, but certain individuals and certain agencies might be. There is good evidence from reputable historians that the Prohibition at least contributed to the Depression and then the Depression contributed to WWII. And, yes, the Prohibition was a definite failed experiment, so we must put careful thought into ridding our society of any dangerous drugs, even the psychiatric drugs. As far as psychadelic drugs, as I said earlier, I can never ever in good conscience support their use for anyone for any reason. It always concerns me when people attribute their spiritual or mental well-being to any drug, but especially to psychadelics. We as humans are made to live as drug-free as possible. We as humans have within us all we need for our mental and spiritual well-being. Each one of us has been created in the image of God. We can speak to Him and hear His voice without drugs. In fact, He would prefer if that way because we are less likely to get His message messed up. I know there are many who might disagree with me. To restate my position, except for life-threatening instances, I think we should try to avoid drugs as much as possible. I can not see any psychadelic being necessary in a life-threatening situation for anyone. Thank you.

  • Your experiencew with psychadelics may be positive, but these drugs, like ALL drugs are nothing to mess with… It all sounds nice and wonderful, but there are still millions of vulnerable people of all ages of which these drugs are highly dangerous. And yes, some of these drugs have been around year, but, I still doubt we really know what the long term effects are. I think those who have already been adversely impacted by psychiatric drugs are particularly vulnerable to the negative effects of these drugs. If seems to me, that if the dosage is just a little off, it could put a person’s life in danger. And, we still don’t know if many of the properties of psychatric drugs could have come from these psychadelic drugs. As far as Pavlov goes, please leave him out of this. He and his dogs have already damaged many human beings. Pavlov, because he did his experiments on dogs, misrepresented the unique individuality of each person; the brain/mind and body. But, then he and his hubris misrepresented the uniqueness of dogs and damaged them, also. Discounting the pain and suffering of those who have been damaged by the psychiatric drugs in discussion of advocating for these psychadelic drugs is extremely hurtful to those of us who have now pledged to live a drug-free life. God created each one of us with a wonderful imagination. When we use it to His Glory; we do not need these psychadelic drugs which can damage and even kill. Thank you.

  • I respect your viewpoint as definitely valid, although we may disagree on some points and disagree on others. Yet, I fell there may be some who would not consider my viewpoint as valid. Perhaps, it is because I do seem to reflect a more traditionalist view. As far as my rejection of most all drugs, my concerns that we have a drug culture which is basically destroying us and my ultimate belief that most all drugs should eventually be eradicated; I did not come upon these ideas willy-nilly. These ideas came to me from my own personal experience as someone who spent more than twenty years taking these brain damaging psychiatric drugs. I am also well aware of the years of alcohol’s prohibition in that it probably prompted both a great depression and a major world war (WWII.) But, what I do know is that in our society, we think there must be a drug for every little thing and we must do what we can to make this idea less attractive. I don’t have a clue how to do it, but I just know this must be done to save humanity. We must absolutely stop relying on drugs as the answer. Thank you.

  • I think you must be very careful if you are using psychadelics to connect with the Divine (God). You could very well be connecting with the devil (satan). Satan is very devious and like the wolves in sheep’s clothing can pretend to be God for the most vulnerable. At the very least, these psychadelic drugs, like psychiatric drugs and therapies, and even new age practices, philosophies and rituals can lead you to very wide open to satan (or the devil) And this is not a pretty picture, but highly devastating to more than just the person who employs these various modalities. Thank you.

  • How do we know caffeine is not neurotoxic as it does have addictive properties? Nicotine is another drug that may have neurotoxic properties, too, but that is probably hidden in a vault somewhere by a tobacco company. As far as caffeine goes, it does sell soda pop, energy drinks, coffee, tea and even chocolate amongst other things. Not only did we have opium wars upon the opening of the Orient to the West, but, we also had tea wars. Part of the English’s desire to go to America and also go to places like India was in their desire for tea. I can’t remember the exact names but most of the American colonies were begun by people with stock in Tea Companies and they were started for this very purpose. It is probably impossible to not sustain some sort of brain damage throughout life; but, it is best to keep it a mininum so we should avoid all psychadelic drugs and all psychiatric. They are by far the most dangerous drugs on the planet. I also include the opiates in this list. Their danger is much greater than caffeine, maybe even nicotine, although nicotine is implicated in ling cancer, etc. so nicotine should probably be up there with the psychadelics, psychiatric drugs and the opiates. The problem with the psychadelics and the psychiatric drugs is how they do their damage. Which is why, I aks go through the trouble of using a psychadelic drug to have a “trip” when God gave you an imagination that literally take you to the stars? Unless, you might be a person for whom having an imagination might be a weakness or non-strength. If that is the case, why tempt fate with a “trip” from these psychadelic drugs and force what you are not meant to do? There are a million and one ethical questions here and the best thing we can do is de-emphasize drugs and help un-create the present drug culture. Thank you.

  • l e cox I am not sure about “out of body experiences” but it seems to me if you want to have one, it would be much better without any drugs. It seems you would be less likely to have any sort of either short-term or long-term brain damage. Not only that, we really have no idea how psychadelic drugs affect other organs in the body. We barely know how psychiatric drugs affect other organs in the body. There is just no way, I think, that anyone with any sense can advocate for drug use for any reason; especially the spiritual as it can be a line to God. Of course, mental and emotional as psychiatric drugs do are also dangerous. Additionally, there are probabilities that psychiatric drugs are related in some way to psychadelic drugs and even alcohol. It is also nebulous and suspect chemistry. Life is not better with this kind of chemistry and biology. Thank you.

  • Katel, that caseworker who said that this (mental health) is a “young field” must have slept through his classes, so it is a very good thing you fired him. I am not sure what is worse; your experience where they have already labeled you or an experience like I had where they gave me a diagnosis with just one initial interview. And the tragic part about that allleged diagnosis was that they gave it to me while I was still on a few drugs and even before they received any “psychiatric history.” from previous clinics. This interviewer also tried to have me go to the “medical side” where they could take a “urine test” to see if I was taking my medicine; my lithium at that time. Luckily, I walked away from this evil before they could take that “test.” We are all better off with psychiatrists of any sort; holistic or traditional or whatever they make up. Thank you.

  • I appreciate your responses. I think as far as the New Thought churches go, there probably needs to be further research as many of the authors and books, etc. mentioned are also found and discussed in New Thought like Bible Study groups in Traditional and Charismatic Christian Churches. As far as psychadelics go, it would be impossible for me to believe they are not “neurotoxic” in some manner, because like psychiatric drugs, they affect the brain first and foremost. The only difference is that a few of these psychadelics are naturally occurring, while almost all psychiatric drugs are synthetics. However, LSD, the most prominent well-known psychadelic drug is synthetically made in the laboratory. It was experimented on with both CIA and US troops in the 1950s and sadly there were those who committed suicide. However, just because something is naturally-forming does not make it non-toxic or non-poisonous. To me, only a fool would mess with these drugs. My mistake was that I didn’t realize that only a fool would mess with psychiatric drugs. There is a common demoninator that can not be denied. As far as the “war on drugs.” —We have had several variations on this especially in the last fifty or sixty years. Unfortunately, the problem with these wars, we have never fought to win them. When we make the decision that we will win this war, it will be won. But, one of the things that prohibit this is: dark money and other money in hands of those who would probably lose that money if we did really win this war. Sadly, money still talks and we still listen to our detriment. Thank you.

  • I do appreciate what you say. And, I have really appreciated your research, which seems to be from a loving concern for your mother. That, to me, is, to be applauded. However, I do know that there are many books and websites from those have been in the new age movement but felt delivered from this movement through Jesus Christ. Their stories are very interesting and compelling, even if you do not feel drawn to their Christianity. I , personally, can not promote the use of psychadelics for any reason and of course, in the hands of psychiatrists, they are damaging and deadly. I, am, if you have read some of my posts and against most all drugs. I feel we have a “drug culture” and are in the process of “drugging America and the world” I do think letting loose psychadelics for any reason would only contribute to this and thus I am 100 million percent against these psychadelics for use for anyone for any reason. There is absolutely not a good reason for anybody to use a drug such as a psychadelic. Thank you.

  • The issue, in drugs, is that the “cure is worse than the disease.” Yes, it would benefit humanity to eradicate many of the drugs, if not, eventually, all. There are much better, more natural ways to treat our illnesses than drugs. And much of the time, we are treating non-existent illnesses that we, humans created mainly just to create a market for these drugs. Psychiatric drugs are the prime example. The main thing is when we need to work first to eradicating this drug culture. We, humans, can not continue thinking a little pill can cure all. Probably all drugs do have a tendency for either dependency or addiction and the difference between difference and addcition could very well be jsut splitting hairs. Like I said, the main thing we have in the US and in the world, now is a DRUG CULTURE and it is dangerous to our very survival. It fuels violence and unnecessary illnesses and suffering. We need to re-educate ourselves and our children that drugs are not the cure, but are worse than the disease. We need to step up our law enforcement in many areas and there are many drugs that need to be banned and/or made illegal. We need to not decriminalize or legalize drugs such as marijuana. We need stricter controls on medical doctors so that they just don’t write a prescription like they’re making a candy recipe. Drugs are killing us. Ending psychiatry would help too. Yes, the cure is worse than the disease and right now we consider drugs the cure. We need to stop the cure and the drug flow now! Thank you.

  • cabrogal, I have just recently commented on your research, but I was wondering, did any of this money find its way into “new thought churches” like unity or the new thought alliance? Additionally, did any of this money find its way into organizations like the Hayes foundation which publishes many books, has a great fan following and even has had its authors showcased on public tv? I was just wondering, if you know anything about that as many of the books, etc mentioned are closely related. There is also another church that comes to mind, the unitarian church. They promote a lot of “new age ideas.” Thank you.

  • l.e. cox There are many books and website that speak against the “new age movement” and bring out its faults and errors, etc. Many of these books and websites do speak from a more conservative biblical perspective. Some of the same groups also speak out against psychiatry and the psychiatric drugs. Unfortunately, many see the “new age movement” as not only an alternative to psychiatry, etc. but also a way out. However, more and more, I now see how the “new age movement” and its ideas actually make a person vulnerable and gullible to psychiatry, etc. The “new age movement” gives people all kinds of “tools” they are supposed to use to get what they want out of life; but, these “tools” try to by-pass any work, trial and error, etc. The idea of the “new age movement” is that what you want will magically come to you, if you meditate a certain way or say these certain affirmations or whatever. Well, what happens when it doesn’t? You get discouraged and depressed. You become disenchanted with the “new age philosophy” and before you know it you are sitting a therapist/psychiatrist’s office receiving therapy and a prescription and from there it escalates and escalates. There is one thing that the new age movement really left out is the old joke, “how do you get to carnegie hall? and the answer is practice, practice, practice.” which means if you want something you’ve got to work at it, not just say affirmations and meditate a certain way. Thank you.

  • Your research is very interesting. I have begun to see in the last few years how the “new age movement” is either a stepping-stone into the psychiatric world of drugs and therapy or another aspect of it; in that much of “new age” is as dangerous as the drugs and therapy. And, of course, all of this is related to the use of psychadelic drugs. They are all different eggs in the same disgustingly, evil basket powered only by satan himself. Thank you.

  • I think the author’s description of basically how innocent people get hooked on these evil damaging psych drugs is “spot on.” Her alternative idea of how Jason should really be “treated” is illuminating and definitely better than the conventional drug way, traditional psychiatrists and their associates use. However, and this may be more tragic, is that usually the inception of the road to ruin by being on these psych pills begins with something usually less dramatic. Much of this really starts from work mismatch or simple relationship issues or even just plain boredom. A person is usually just looking for answers to their problems, which are very practical problems or maybe they are just dealing with the loss of a loved one, a job or other normal life-changing experiences. I think the author’s idea of working with this “imaginary client” is far superior to the ways of traditional psychiatry, but, I think we must really be careful to make sure the person’s issues are from trauma or just normal life’s questions that need answer unique to that person. Either way, psych drugs and the concurrent psychotherapy only harms, maims and damages and on top of whatever maybe bothering the individual, there is now either added trauma or trauma that should never have been there in the very first place. Thank you.

  • Sociology is just another pitiful subject like psychiatry/psychology. As long as we continue to blame the individual in regards to drugs, we lose; because we will be unable to place the blame where it truly exists, the makers and the pushers of these drugs, whether in psychiatrist’s offices and other doctor’s offices or whether from “drug pushers” on the streets of America and the world. These “drug pushers” of both legal and illegal drugs only take advantage of the vulnerablities of the individual and use various brainwashing techniques to convince the person that the answer to their problems lies within a “pill” and if you take this “little pill” all will be wonderful. These lies endanger humanity. The first step to get rid of these lies is to end psychiatry and stop the drug flow from all sources. This is so patently obvious that although I do honor disagreement and questioning can not see how anyone can not see this. We have known this for many millenia. Many great authors and thinkers have seen this too. Perhaps, we are too afraid to implement measures to stop this. The very first thing we must do is to de-emphasize the drug culture in which we live. We must assist others in realizing that pills are not the answer and help people learn to value their unique God-given gifts and talents, etc. So many people feel their unique God-given gifts and talents are useless and then they are prey to this drug world. There is no other way. We must stop this drug culture now. Thank you.

  • I have appreciated all of your articles and contributions to MIA and hope to continue to appreciate your work in forums such as MIA and others. At times, I do politely disagree with you, but your voice is so needed for the health and welfare of all, especially those who have been so damaged by psychiatry and even other medical specialties, as sadly, it seems the evils of psychiatry have begun to seep into other medical specialties and other health arenas. I know there are some who may not quite like what you say. Still, your voice is so needed, because more and more each day, we psychiatry as the great evil it is and how it has permeated society so much that even our existence on this planet might be in jeopardy. Please keep speaking up. We do not need the devil to win this round. This one is for God and goodness to win. Thank you.

  • The biggest problem, unfortunately, with your response is the word, “collectively.” This word connotes images of communism and robotism. It is a very tragic word, very unAmerican and unFreedom. It is also a word of elite academia that disregards the common man and woman. Anecdotal information works because it is concerned with each unique person on an individual level. The problem with our healthcare system, our educational system, our governmental system and most other systems is their emphasis not on the individual but on some aggregate, or statistical average or some sort of easily made deceptive statistic. Drugs are dangerous. And, it is my contention that drugs are probably the root cause of much what ails us both individually and as a society and culture. The drugs strip away who we are individually and as a society and culture. Perhaps, that is their job to confuse, confound, damage, and strip away who we are to make us docile little creatures and take our humanity and our God-given talents, skills, and character, etc. As long as we have these drugs available either legally or illegally, we will suffer. Our first goal in this society is to make taking drugs so aborrent that no would want to take them. Right now, we have a drug culture; pop a pill and all of life’s problem will simply go away. It’s that simple. DRUGS ARE KILLING US! And, it is not climate change or anything else that jeopardizes our survival as a species, and risks our possible extinction, but drugs! As soon as we awaken to this real truth and fact, life on this planet will visibly improve. Thank you.

  • Yes, the story of my friend can be described as an anecdote? Does that make it invaluble information? Hardly! The stories we read on this site from psychiatric survivors are just that anecdotes! Anecdotal information is, in my opinion, and probably the opinions of others, far better than scientific statistical information. As far as “dependence” versus “addiction” the only difference that could be applied is that in “addiction” you need increasing quantities of the item, while in “dependence” you usually do not. However, in modern society, we do throw these words around like candy and popcorn and thus they can meaningless. But the suffering is not. As far as other factors as causal in any issue that is also questionable, because when you deal with any “human subject” the ability to screen out any and all variables is an impossibility, which does, don’t you think may anecdotal information far superior to experimental information. The other problem with experiments is the effect of the experimenter upon the outcome of the experiment which is rarely ever discussed, but the effect is always there. Finally, as far as the men and women returning from Vietnam and their opiate use and how they were able to get off the opiates upon their return, I can not state. Sadly, the one person whom I could verify this with is no longer here; that would be my Father, a decorated Vietnam Veteran who passed away in Veteran’s Hospital several years ago partly from being subjected to Agent Orange. Yes, I am for the idea that all these drugs should be illegal. These drugs all deal with the human brain and seek to create different effects through rearrangement of the chemicals, wiring, etc. in the brain. This is beyond dangerous. It is very damaging and it can be deadly. Much suffering has been caused by these drugs. And they affect society in dangerous and damaging ways, also. I appreciate what you say in your comment, but, I can not morally agree with you. Thank you.