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So many people going mental its like the canary in a coal mine.
The always growing big brother police state combined with the lefts war on the family and all of that, society has been getting sicker for a long time.
I guess we need more psychiatry.
“The business of psychiatry is to provide society with excuses disguised as diagnoses and coercions justified as treatments”
– Thomas Szasz
Definition of school – an institution for educating children, any institution at which instruction is given in a particular discipline, a group of people. 2. A university, college, or university department specializing in a particular type of subject can be referred to as a school.
Definition of mental institution. : a hospital for people with mental or emotional problems.
Why do they insist on turning schools into mental institutions ???
And who pays for all this? Like maybe the kids are anxious cause the parents are anxious cause their property tax bill is like a second mortgage so both parents have to work to pay all the taxes it takes to pay for all this crap .
On Stay at Home Mom Shaming: How is this Still a Thing? https://punitarice.com/stay-at-home-mom-shaming/
If we had real capitalism the DSM would have competition but for now it is a government enforced monopoly.
“The fact that my brother, Justin, never left the VA parking lot — it’s infuriating,” said Harrington, 37. “He did the right thing; he went in for help. I just can’t get my head around it.”
OK I read it and as usual no description of what the “help” is.
He was there for 4 days. What was done in those 4 days, how did he spend his time ?
I don’t know how the VA does things but civilian inpatient “help” you are just locked up with dozens of other distressed people in a chaotic abusive environment. Detention situations are always abusive as the Stanford Prison Experiment is always playing out on some level.
So he went for help. How was he helped the first hour ? What did they do for him on days 1-4 ? 4 days of help, what is that like and what do you do all day ??? Name 5 ways they help you.
Tired of them using that vague ass word help and never any description of what that is.
and legal oppression… Yet, this is a profoundly unwell society and the signs abound.
Its pretty bad more government money and paperworks, the solutions always offered won’t fix it.
I remember in treatment when I was still bugged out in that state where I notice things to much and I noticed the staff spent all their time faces buried in the computer screens. Three counselors they would rotate doing groups and spend a little time with each client then all the rest of the time you look through the window they are on the computer typing typing typing.
The nurse the same thing all day long face planted in the computer then their was 8-10 more people in other offices the same thing stuck to computer screens all day. I started thinking maybe the only way to get any attention at this place would be to dress up as a computer.
I started thinking how in the 1930s the first diesel tractors came out and how prior to that MOST of the population was in farming but now or As of 2008, less than 2 percent of the population is directly employed in agriculture. 2% !! Modern tractors and farm equipment changed everything.
Well in the 1980s the personal computer came out, then windows and the internet e-mail fax machines.
An action that used to involve digging through a file cabinet, an envelope and mailman and a phone call now is just a few keystrokes and mouse clicks. A few people with the modern internet can do the office work it took dozens of people to do 40 years ago.
So why is it with the invention of modern farm equipment now only 2% of the population farms but with the same radical improvements in the efficiency of office and communication technology why do we have more people doing paperwork then ever before ????
Honestly that clipart of a head on a platter creeped me out and I did not read this yet. I wonder how many potential readers skipped it after seeing that.
Facebook is so creepy I am glad I never signed up for it.
I thought about it and putting my picture and information on Facebook, and the internet in general, seemed very similar to just posting my picture and information on the wall of a public bathroom in a train station or highway rest stop for anyone and everyone to look at.
As the first set of automatic doors opened and slowly closed, I realized my children, husband, friends, and family were no longer available to me. When the second set of locked doors clicked shut, my freedom of movement and privacy left. As the third set of doors slammed behind me, dignity, respect, and even intelligence were stripped from me. Read more https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/five-lessons-i-learned-from-visiting-er-with-suicidal-ideation-0920137
I searched Google “what happens if you say your suicidal” and the above was first page results.
These Meta-analysis will always be wrong cause people know after the first time to deny feeling suicidal cause of what happens when they do.
I think the problem is if you were treated nicely many people would say they are suicidal when they are not.
Schools Look More Like Correctional Facilities Than Learning Institutions
Microcosms of the police state, America’s public schools contain almost every aspect of the militarized, intolerant, senseless, overcriminalized, legalistic, surveillance-riddled, totalitarian landscape that plagues those of us on the “outside.”
We need a Community Approach to turning our detention centers back into schools and maybe we wouldn’t have a problem kids refusing to go to “school.”
Seriously ? 29.9 billion !! $29,900,000,000 is that really 29,900 million ? It is they spend one million dollars 29,900 times, WTF ? What a waste.
Everyone hates those “ask your doctor” ads.
I just picked one and typed in Zoloft and Google auto suggested “Zoloft withdrawal symptoms.” That is great cause many people Google a new medication and are informed about the withdrawal part unlike in most doctors offices.
As long as Google doesn’t play “algorithm” games with search results and suggestions like they do with current events an politics I think we can the war on anti depressants.
In my opinion it was people getting sick and posting online that led to this “war” otherwise they would still be denying withdrawal symptoms happen like back in 2007 when I was sick from psychiatric drug withdrawal and they told me that cant be true cause the poison they gave me was “non addictive.”
So far we have 30 topics https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/forum/psychiatric-drug-withdrawal/
These forum testimonials online are the research. Before these what ever the drug rep said was all you could get.
I was given Zyprexa off label in 2007 when they were pushing that poison for everything before Eli Lilly got busted years later I got diabetes and the withdrawal was so horrific. It probably made me pre diabetic and I never knew it.
There is no way that diabolical poison “olanzapine” helps anyone long term, you would be better off prescribing heroin as the withdrawal syndrome is a few days of being really sick instead of weeks and months of nausia and insomnia from hell with that poison posing as medicine Zyprexa.
If off label use almost killed me using that poison on people “on label” is nothing more then a death sentence as I don’t see how they could do the withdrawals and ‘bipolar’ or ‘Schizophrenia’ at the same time. No doubt get stuck on those poisons for life as withdrawals are labelled “returning symptoms” at every attempt to stop ingesting that anhedoinia brain poison.
Psychiatry is an atrocity, a holocaust of mass poisonings sickness and death.
“Department of Children and Families”. How is that for some Orwellian shit ?
I think what the government really needs one big department of stay the F out of our lives that would include ditching this ASIST suicide thing that only screws people up more.
Youtube activism is over.
I went to look for those videos posted on YouTube by people who secretly record DCF abuse in their homes and the search results for this are all mainstream corporate news videos. YouTube rigged all their search results to favor corporate news organizations rather than actual YouTubers.
Its not actual censorship they just bury the results under 100s or 1000s of corporate news Youtube channels. I keep posting on the Infowars comment section that someone needs to make an “anti censorship” browser extension that works similarly to an ad blocker to block out MSM media results. I hope someone takes my idea and makes it work. I first noticed what YouTube did after Hurricane Micheal. It was impossible to find real YouTuber videos of the hurricane behind the wall of corporate media YouTube channels in the search results.
I still think people should record DCF, they are known to lie all the time.
Its just sad internet censorship once the thing of conspiracy theories is quickly becoming a reality.
I got a voice call yesterday she is alright. Texting sucks, you can’t hear how people are feeling.
“Go into any inner-city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach kids to learn.They know that parents have to parent, that children can’t achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white.”
—Barack Obama, Keynote Address, Democratic National Convention, 2004
This video explains how our cities became depressing places much better then the article. The Title is simple “Why Modern Architecture sucks” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GapUEKYLE1o
He calls the designers “aesthetic terrorists” lol, but its very well researched with an entertaining presentation, I learned alot about Architecture stuff from this video.
I found this a wile back. The Clinical Textbook of Biblical Psychiatry http://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/welcome.htm
On the other end of the spectrum you have clowns like Rick Warren, psychiatry killed his son but his church is affiliated with NAMI (National alliance on Mental Illness) that pharma front group and even after his son committed suicide after seeing all the “best” doctors he still pushes psychiatry.
“There is not enough support for families of mentally ill because the pendulum swung the other way to care for the individual rights of privacy.”
“the pendulum has swung the other way to human rights so much that many parents and family members cannot get a conservatorship, cannot get a control over somebody.” – Rick Warren
RICK: If love could keep a mentally ill kid alive, Matthew would be alive. He was in a stable family, church system, friends. I’ve got a doctorate. I’ve done a lot of counseling. Kay’s done counseling. I’m used to doing cognitive therapy, helping people talk through problems. None of that helps if you’re mentally ill. It’s like saying to a bird with a broken wing, “Just believe you can fly.”
Anyway I was just watching the news like any other day I see that Clown Rick warren on CNN with all the NAMI talking points. I just wanted to yell at the TV, no Rick you stupid clown psychiatry killed your kid like they almost killed me !!
“sustained investments in schools, housing and quality job-training programs”
That never works. They need to take all the public housing and just give it to the people currently living in it, print out titles and make them owners. Owners take 1000 times better care of things then tenants. Who invests anything in something they don’t own ?
Look at the house in the photo this article, the people in it don’t own it so it is in disrepair.
Search results, read and learn time http://www.google.com/search?q=liberals+destroy+inner+cities
Liberals destroy inner cities and that doesn’t mean by default that conservatives have the answer any more then the man on the moon, it just means their policies failed.
And PS she lives with her mother and family, I had that much at least knowing she wasn’t alone someplace even if problems with them contributed to the distress in the first place. She just wants to be on her own and her comes that word the family wants her ‘safe’ with them and she doesn’t have the money to leave and come live around here again. Going crazy with boredom not accomplishing anything being stuck and she is struggling with mental stuff I don’t even know what describe it using DSM code but psychiatry won’t help. Her mother was asking me but there is really nothing they have to ‘fix’ whats going on. When she has money and a place she functions just doing her thing even if its strange sometimes.
What they did to you is a crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting and time wasted on false reports is stolen from finding children in real danger.
I recently had a friend sending me some I am going to kill myself texts and I texted back WTF are you doing delete those texts right now. I was left with those scary thoughts of what if she does something stupid and it would be my fault for not doing something. She is over 1000 miles away only gets texts, minutes ran out but I did the math on it and calling her mother and saying I was getting these texts or the authorities I would just become more evidence to support the belief “you can’t trust anyone.” Then if there is another crisis of course I would not be contacted.
Its a tough spot but I know what would happen if if I took some action and the authorities showed up, a complete nightmare. Police cars and flashing lights in front of the house making the neighbors come outside to see you upset getting dragged off maybe an ambulance. That would be “helpful” for years to come being the one on the block dragged off by the authorities.
I would not have slept better cause she was “safe” after inflicting that nightmare but I am thinking people who don’t know what “help” is certainly would consider calling help.
This comment would have been different if I didn’t just go through this, probably would have just wrote about that hospital falsely labeling me suicidal as a billing and holding excuse and what a nightmare that was. All I can say is it really sucks when someone is saying suicidal things and you personally know what “help” really is.
How do you know this ? Seems to me if it hurts to move people are going to do less moving.
This debate is for people with chronic pain to be having not for us as outside observers that’s why I always paste in links to their websites. They know whats best for them more then we do.
Forcing Pain Patients Off Their Meds Won’t End the Opioid Crisis
A relentless focus on reducing the number and dosage of opioid prescriptions is wreaking hell on people in intractable pain—while failing to treat addiction or reduce overdose deaths
In Oregon, a state Medicaid committee is now determining whether all existing chronic pain patients on opioids should be forcibly tapered starting in 2020 because of concerns about “overdose and death”— https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/7xqa44/forcing-pain-patients-off-their-meds-will-not-end-the-opioid-crisis
And of course people on opiates are depressed cause chronic pain patients are treated the same as people on probation for criminal offences.
Maybe write that the comment section is in favor of the facilities because victims of the places won’t comment with stupid Facebook.
I never hear anything good about Facebook but alot of creepy stuff
I am glad I never bothered signing up for that.
The comment section on this article could use a few from MIA readers. I can’t write one cause I don’t have Facebook to Log in with.
“Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo has committed the state to building 20,000 new supportive housing units, and state lawmakers so far have allocated $2.6 billion to create the first 6,000 units by 2021.”
$2,600,000,000 diivided by 6000 units equals $433,333 per unit
http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+coumo+corruption bribes and kickbacks all that dirty stuff NY criminal politicians.
“The lawsuit does not seek an order requiring the six men to be freed”. Instead these men are being used to push a political agenda by people who don’t care at all about them. Billions of dollars for them to pillage in the usual way.
The article says one of them has the BS diagnoses of “bipolar II” and “antisocial personality disorder” what total fraud calling those BS diagnoses “mental illness” that requires all these expensive programs. Corrupt political games are being played here.
Its important to remove that slander from medical records.
I remember the episode of The Honeymooners where Ed Norton goes to the psychiatrist and gets hypnotized. Looked it up I think it was called the sleep walker.
Anyway growing up in the 70s as a kid thats what we thought psychiatrists did was to hypnotize people and figure out what their psychological injury was and try and fix it. More then one TV show portrayed them that way.
“even though she did not have psychosis and begged not to be put on the medication.”
I always call forced drugging rape cause they are forcing things inside a persons body.
“coroners have written to [UK Secretary of State for Health and Social Care] Matt Hancock asking how he intends to ensure the drug does not claim more lives.”
The drug does not “claim lives” it just sits in the bottle on the shelf doing nothing till the staff in hospitals kill people by forcing them to ingest it.
I don’t know if turning prisons into re education camps is a good idea cause then society would feel less guilt about sending people to prison.
Its already totally out of control all the people in prison for victimless so called crimes and the US more of its people in jails and prisons then any nation in the history of mankind.
“The business of psychiatry is to provide society with excuses disguised as diagnoses, and with coercions justified as treatments.” – Thomas Szasz
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All I have to do is replace the M in NAMI to a Z. “Not all NAZIs”
Lately in politics people are throwing around the word NAZI over nothing but psych hospitals are the most NAZI thing we have in America. Locking people up no trail by jury and with no crime committed. The forced drugging medical experiments behind locked doors. Psychiatry and forced sterilizations.
There is more but that’s enough that I don’t get in trouble for saying NAZI over nothing.
Even the Best Local NAZI Chapter is Still a Problem
“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.” “We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests….The reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of old people, these are the belated objectives …for charting the changes in human behavior.” Brock Chisholm, 1959 Humanist of the Year and former head of World Health Organization, in the February 1946 issue of Psychiatry
We need to stop screwing with my comments.
I wonder how many cash for kids schemes are still going on ?
Trolling NAMI discussion groups
I complained that “my cousin” was abused inpatient, described the usual nightmare, and that now he refuses treatment because of it. What advice will they give me ?
Venezuela was once the wealthiest country in South America, but in recent years millions have fled the country amid mass starvation and violence after socialist policies were enacted and government seized private industries.
I don’t remember the exact words but they deny it.
This was 2 years ago. https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/someone-call-nami/
And this, https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/write-a-review-for-nami-om-yelp/
Bummer my review is gone, everyone pile on some Yelp reviews of NAMI ! Link above.
A wile back I called the NAMI helpline 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) and asked if they took money from the pharmaceutical companies. I couldn’t tell if they were instructed to lie and tell me no or if the volunteers were just ignorant.
I called several times and talked different people and then got someone that sounded like a supervisor.
I got the sense that supervisor guy was upset that I caused problems by getting the volunteers to start questioning by asking why if NAMI was a patient advocacy organization why doesn’t NAMI have anything to say about rampant abuses behind psychiatric locked doors or crimes by the pharmaceutical industry such as the Risperdal and Zyprexa scandals.
“I maintain my right not to have any psychiatric evaluation or diagnosis based upon the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) as such diagnoses are unreliable. According to Allen Frances, who was chairman of the fourth edition of DSM, “There are no objective tests in psychiatry—no X-ray, laboratory, or exam finding that says definitely that someone does or does not have a mental disorder.” (“Psychiatric Fads and Overdiagnosis,” Psychology Today, 2 June 2010.) Additionally, the DSM system is not scientific. It’s own editors state that “there is no assumption that each category of mental disorder is a completely discrete entity with absolute boundaries dividing it from other mental disorders or from no mental disorder.” (DSM-IV, pg. xxii)
Such codes and descriptions should not be entered into my medical records as this unreliable and unscientific information will remain in my records and may wrongly influence any future medical treatment I might receive.”
Millennials are also the first generation to face the computerized big brother and police state. Everything is 100 times more complicated.
“we’re lazy and entitled”
Says the baby boomer who bought his first house at 21 and started a family on one income with no college degree.
This is epic http://www.quickmeme.com/Old-Economy-Steven/page/2/
I made a meme page before finding the above link and posted a few https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/baby-boomer-vs-millennial-memes/
“addict” “drug seeking behavior”
Sometimes anxiety is crippling or the only thing that works on real pain is opiates.
Why do flood victims cry on TV news when their home gets wrecked then rebuild it in the same spot instead of up on a hill ?
I forgot about the introduction of Vyvance . That ‘prodrug’ delivery system is flawed, the peak is way to high and the crash is prolonged takes you into can’t eat/sleep psychosis.
Spice and K2 was messing people up but I dropped the ball and forgot about the introduction of Vyvance the worst for of amphetamine ever they mass drug children with now.
The old instant release wears off but Vyvance can really send you to the ER.
The “right to employment” how about the right to employ yourself without interference ?
“Business License” Government just needs to get the _ out of the way.
Its not about me or any one person its about making it difficult bully an entire population because they have the ability to fight back.
I don’t want “them” giving me some slave job a machine could do.
Abandoning farm tractors and go back to rakes and shovels is an incredibly stupid idea.
Farm labor is “fun” we could bring back sweat shops too. Lets get rid of automated sewing machines and cnc milling machines.
In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. -Stokely Carmichael
What we really need is the right to housing. The feudalistic system we have is slavery.
You don’t own your home – and you never will https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QavCw40RY3w And even better https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/08/the-feudal-history-of-property-tax-in-america/497099/
Imagine that, a world where you could just live extortion free. Everyone focuses on getting government money or $15 an hour for a “living wage” meanwhile its government itself that made living so expensive and difficult. Government hates the tiny house and off grid people.
The rest of this article is contradictory.
“His goal was to overturn the anti-democratic control of our political system by elites and put power back in the hands where it belongs — with us, ordinary people.”
Meanwhile the link promotes “super delegates” the scam the robbed Bernie Sanders.
“It is the view of many that the Constitution secures to presidential electors the freedom to vote their conscience for president and vice president. ”
So which is it and how do superdelgates put power with ordinary people ?
And “gun safety” ok sure, nothing slows down systems of oppression faster then disarming the population. Show me one example from history where THAT happened.
Everyone into selling universal basic income should read https://strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/
This ‘hits the nail on the head’ like nothing else I ever read even to me who usually sides with the so called right and capitalism.
I mean the 2nd post.
Suicide Risk in Placebo-Controlled Trials of Treatment for Acute Manic Episode and Prevention of Manic-Depressive Episode
That was in this article https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185
Studies show people will believe anything you say as long as you say ‘studies show’ before saying it.
Pick a spot https://www.landwatch.com/Land_For_Sale It has to have water, at least available well water for bathrooms showers and washing machines. I would have therapeutic workshops on carpentry where we build small cabins cause tents are lame. I would not want a 3rd world chaotic looking mess of the typical “tent city”
May want to call it a ranch. I just wanted to put the idea out there that if you found a cleaver way to get around the governments war on off grid living you could build something pretty special and possibly profitable too.
2012-2016 also were peak years for smoking spice K2 and doing what they called bath salts.
I had an idea to buy a large tract of land and pretend I was opening a regular campground to the zoning board and get all the government red tape things needed to operate a campground.
This way I could create a legal off grid community. I would have bathrooms and showers maybe a store that takes EBT. It was to be my off grid sober living place.
I think the first post says it perfectly. I was thinking the same thing. I need to learn to write like that. I was also going to say Facebook is practicing psychology without a licence.
Individual states each adopt their own licensing requirements and penalties, but all states have laws which punish practicing without a license.
Any person who practices or offers or attempts to practice as a psychologist, social worker, marriage and family therapist, licensed professional counselor, psychotherapist, or addiction counselor without an active license, registration, or certification issued under this article commits a class 2 misdemeanor and shall be punished as provided in section 18-1.3-501, C.R.S., for the first offense. Any person who commits a second or any subsequent offense commits a class 6 felony and shall be punished as provided in section 18-1.3-401, C.R.S.
As for resources, the authors should provide links to http://www.google.com/search?q=migrant+children+forced+psychiatry
The leopard cannot change its spots, the tiger cannot change its stripes.
Psychiatry is a leading edge of this operant-reconditioning program. People are taught that older systems of values are outmoded, in light of “scientific advances.” when elites fashion and impose a New World ORDER, they naturally need a way to classify the recalcitrant citizens and the rebellious and the independent. So they use the word DISORDER.
“The concept of a clean plate has many roots,” noted Connie Diekman, director of university nutrition at Washington University in St. Louis. “The starving children of the world, the lack of food during WWI or II and, of course, the fact that many people do not notice feelings of satiety and eat until the food is gone.”
Should You Force Kids to Eat? The Longterm Damage of Forcing Kids …
The short answer is no and here is why forcing kids to eat is dangerous. … “Finish Your Plate”; “Three More Bites”; “Eat All of Your Dinner”; “You Have to Eat All …
I did not even read it but the force feeding of my generation was BS
“A rage outburst was defined as sufficient agitation and loss of control such that the child was unable to “time out” (i.e. sit in a chair for 10 minutes on being told to do so) or was a danger to himself or others and a higher level of intervention was needed. In order to compare the efficacy of medication against usual treatment (i.e. seclusion/restraint), a first rage outburst in the hospital was treated non-medically; that is, the child was placed in an isolation room. The door remained open if the child was able to regain control and take the time out in the room; otherwise the door was closed. If there was a second episode, the child was told “You need some medicine to help you get back in control. Take this medicine or we may have to give you a shot”. If agreeable, the child was given 0.015 mg/kg of liquid risperidone.”
Read more https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2990969/#R23
I used to run into that are you a doctor thing alot. I couldn’t help myself and would bash psychiatry at AA meetings. Most people especially the young ones had a history of psychiatry. AA is for both alcohol and addiction these days.
If I flat out said psychiatry is BS, they keep you sick and their is nothing wrong with your serotonin some would always come back at me with “are you a doctor ?” “are you a licensed mental health professional?”
OK then, when you deprogram people, you force them to think…But I keep them off balance and this forces them to begin questioning, to open their minds. When the mind gets to a certain point, they can see through all the lies that they’ve been programmed to believe. They realize that they’ve been duped and they come out of it.
Did anyone ever get a test for this serotonin using medical science ? They told me my brain chemicals were broken but I never got any test using medical science to confirm this. No test what so ever. Then they gave me all these pills like I was a science project.
Here is a mock question and answer session with the ‘professionals’ http://www.brasscheck.com/druggingkids/
I don’t know we are in different spots me as a survivor activist and you as a caregiver. This is a tough endeavor.
How about this too ? https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/10/us-youth-diagnosed-bipolar-72-times-often-uk/ Diagnosed With Bipolar 72 Times More Often than Kids in UK !
These complaints usually land first page search results for the name of the hospital.
Have you put that story online yet ?
I always promote these consumer complaint sites because having been inside around those telephones when people were begging for help from families to get out of those hell holes families were telling them no you have to stay and get help. Then often the typical reaction people telling their family they hate them…
When people put their stories online families read them then patients are more likely to be believed when they make those calls https://www.pissedconsumer.com/post-complaint.html
Donate the money to a human rights in psychiatry organization.
http://www.google.com/search?q=keychain+dvr click on shopping. They are cheap enough if you could even sneak them in for patients to use and if they loose them it doesn’t matter. Wish I had one when I was in the hospital when they assaulted my ‘girlfriend’ a fellow patient I was palling around with. She could have used a legal settlement and what they did, grabbing her like that, I am sure they would have paid at least $50,000 to prevent a jury from seeing it.
I don’t really want to go through it again but I had the idea if I got myself admitted and had a friend bring me cameras and videoed the random staff assaults it could be a real money maker selling the videos back to them or giving them to the assault victims so they could sue and hopefully give me a share.
These places are so abusive that an entrapment-extortion scheme would be easy to pull off.
We could all learn a lesson in activism from the boarding school survivors http://wwaspsurvivors.com/about-wwasp/owners-staff/
They don’t mess around.
I wonder if it is a reaction to fake news constantly bullying trump that on some level peoples response is to want to bully back at the perceived bullies. People who side with fake news.
Go ahead and get a restraining order that won’t by you new legs after I hire couple of thugs to break them for $5,000 Cheaper then a lawyer. And since they are abusing many people how would they ever know what family was responsible ?
There are other things that can be done to people, all kinds of ideas posted in the darker corners of the internet.
“Silently document abuses” meanwhile that abuse is happening. Sorry about the beatings and the needle sticks, just hang on we are documenting the abuses.
I think most people that put their “loved ones” away in these hospitals never loved them in the first place if they are not willing to risk themselves defending them.
Ok this is my last comment. I don’t want to think about this anymore. I got other things to do.
We are talking about defending loved ones from the most horrific abuses imaginable, the stuff of nightmares, if the law won’t help I don’t see anything morally wrong with taking it to the next level with anonymous threats and actual violence. Serous shit here.
Be nice to my loved one because next time they are abused you won’t make it home from work alive. Have a nice day.
Where are you at ? We are all commenting on this one https://www.madinamerica.com/2019/01/when-the-hospital-is-sick/
I will never be in a ‘hospital’ again. If by some real long-shot I go ‘mental’ ever again alcohol is always involved and I will be at a fancy rehab, learned my lesson with ‘hospitals’ but it does help if you tell these people you will retaliate on the outside and this isn’t just for guys. A woman’s threat of my boyfriend husband will come for you if I am mistreated is also credible as people will often retaliate on the behalf of a loved one more then they will for themselves.
You too, take video of these ‘bum rushs’ and put it on YouTube with the hospital name as a title. For some reason YouTubers love violent videos and they often go viral.
“professional staff witnessing these abuses speak up” No, record it on video and put it on YouTube with the hospital name as the title and also send it off to every news outlet you can.
In my medical records they called my reaction to the whole situation a “bipolar mixed episode” and then used it as proof I needed more of the mistreatment that caused me to think about nothing else but how much I hated those people. I went to the hospital on my own after doing a pretty bad job of self medicating a nervous breakdown with alcohol. Yes I screwed up and needed detox for a few days, quite embarrassing, and walked right in to that nightmare that made everything worse.
It was the threats to try and coerce pills that set me off more then anything. I was fine before my relapse on alcohol no need for starting the maximum dose of anti psychotics and a ‘mood stabilizer’ AND a dose of Haldol. I wasn’t just swallowing that crap then spending the rest of the day experiencing the effects on my mind and body.
Maybe I shouldn’t be typing this but I had a plan that if they assaulted me with the needle I was going to get a metal pipe and run up on the person that did it wile they were walking to there car when it was over after I left the hospital and swing it as hard as I possibly could and shatter their knee cap then run away. I did warn them anyone touches me I will retaliate on the outside. I believe in fair play. No one is allowed to miss treat me like that.
Better we collect $1200 a day in insurance money from 99 then just 1.
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The Stanford Prison Experiment (SPE) was a 1971 social psychology experiment that attempted to investigate the psychological effects of perceived power, focusing on the struggle between prisoners and prison officers…
All I know is once they locked the door on me I hated those people and there was no undoing it. Lock door > strip search > threats if I didn’t go along with “squat and cough.” They call the strip search a ‘skin assessment’ they don’t care about your skin or any part of your physical health. Try and see a real doctor for physical health complaint, good luck to you. Unless they fear you might die in the place for real and getting sued.
Its the locked doors that do it, even if it wasn’t abusive and did not include coerced poll lobotomies backed up with threats of assaults and rapist style forced penetration with a needle full of drugs the locked door sets up the whole dynamic. You can’t leave and if you try they use violence on you.
OK, lets hit UHS somehow make it so if anyone searches the name of one of their hospitals they find bad results first page Google.
I mean real damage they feel. Its been done before.
UHS stock tumbles 12% after BuzzFeed investigative report https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/uhs-stock-tumbles-12-after-buzzfeed-investigative-report.html
Expose what those places are like we could seriously damage them. Buzzfeed came and went. People forgot. Negative results first page Google each hospital, That sticks around.
Most people don’t even know what UHS is and think each hospital is independent. Time to expose and ruin them.
How about deleting more forum spam ?
Had a little fun with the live help on the essay company that spams hell out of us by asking a tons of stupid questions wasting their time then saying stop screwing with us but how about that delete button ?
I did most of the work. We got hit again today.
Yes its war, back me up. I am going to be “anti social” towards that “write essay” company spamming us.
Oh good everyone is playing nice now !
This website is run by psychologists obsessed with studying behaviors, was this just a big experiment ?
Ok sorry my “anti social” personality is coming out. I was being a troll. I do try and only use the anti social part of me for doing good things, like the robin hood excuse. Anyway this activism against psychiatry really helped me in the path to recovery. I was hurt by it all and needed an avenue to fight back and being nice about it was never a priority.
Just keep doing what you are doing publicizing the abuses in those hospitals. I like doing it directing my own anti social ways at them for a good cause.
I am out for now.
It was always anxiety combined with withdrawal that pushed me into ‘psychosis’ where I believed I was dying or already dead.
Since we are on this topic of separating people by diagnosis I vote to segregating all the suicidal people into one section of the hospital so the rest of us don’t have to be subjected to the dehumanizing suicide protocols.
I mean what the hell, I bug out and go to the hospital thinking I am dying trying to avoid death this incredibly intense feeling of impending doom the next thing they got me upstairs no shoe laces being followed around by Mr Clipboard so I don’t kill myself ?
Always been scared of death, as a kid seeing cemeteries and coffins thinking what if I am not dead but they bury me anyway ?
Make I statements ! “We” it feels like I am back in group.
No way. We haven’t had any action on this site in so long. Its usually just a drive by, read an article a quick comment then check the next day and no replies. Repeat with the new story.
“What’s really important about my ex is that he was a meth addict I met in a partial hospitalization program. So you can see how being exposed to such patients is incredibly dangerous for vulnerable people like me.”
I have seen it 100 times working at that treatment center. These slick sacks of crap coming down on the ladies like vultures. Hi girl, this is my 14th treatment but THIS time I am quitting !!
And I am going to start my own business / open a tattoo shop and bal bla bla I have no life experience besides dropping out of school, getting high and in trouble for years but I am real good at behaving like everything I see in rap videos !! I can also speak street slang and spit alot.
Then you have dudes like me “I can save her” tried that twice all this drama and getting cornered into no win situations. OK lets just do all the things YOU want to do !!
Seriously though I have seen it so many times “beginner” women get lured in buy the ones who have been around the block preying on their vulnerabilities. The ones that brag about the number of partners they have had like there is some kind of prize for the high score besides an empty life.
New girl comes she is surrounded immediately. We had a counselor that used to warn against it telling them they have broken pickers, your picker is broken don’t get in a relationship till you have been sober for a wile.
Its true, cause these women didn’t seem like dudes who somewhat had it together myself included, they liked the damn clowns for some reason. That low self esteem they get scared of healthy dudes I had a counselor tell me.
Here I go maybe saying something offensive. Talk on egg shells no thanks. I am not saying you or your ex fit anything I have described. Just a testimony to what I have seen being around this for years.
When I worked at the rehab center at least twice a month someone had an anxiety attack and the emergency responders showed up.
A few times I lied and said we had someone with epilepsy and exposure to flashing lights can trigger seizures. That was the only way to get those guys to turn that flashing light crap off that makes a crowd gather. Another time I asked why they send a ladder truck when no one is stuck in a tree or on the roof.
There is no practical reason for making such a scene with those lights
Wrote about this in 2013 https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/ems-ambulance-flashing-lights-why-cant-they-just-shut-them-off-at-your-house/
I am tired of this.
I made a topic I think would be useful https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/what-is-the-battle-plan-for-fighting-psychiatric-abuse/
“Anti-seizure drugs” this story is very dishonest protecting psychiatric practice that drug is mostly given for so called bipolar not just a threatening condition of seizures a medical problem.