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So many people going mental its like the canary in a coal mine.
The always growing big brother police state combined with the lefts war on the family and all of that, society has been getting sicker for a long time.
I guess we need more psychiatry.
“The business of psychiatry is to provide society with excuses disguised as diagnoses and coercions justified as treatments”
– Thomas Szasz
Definition of school – an institution for educating children, any institution at which instruction is given in a particular discipline, a group of people. 2. A university, college, or university department specializing in a particular type of subject can be referred to as a school.
Definition of mental institution. : a hospital for people with mental or emotional problems.
Why do they insist on turning schools into mental institutions ???
And who pays for all this? Like maybe the kids are anxious cause the parents are anxious cause their property tax bill is like a second mortgage so both parents have to work to pay all the taxes it takes to pay for all this crap .
On Stay at Home Mom Shaming: How is this Still a Thing? https://punitarice.com/stay-at-home-mom-shaming/
If we had real capitalism the DSM would have competition but for now it is a government enforced monopoly.
“The fact that my brother, Justin, never left the VA parking lot — it’s infuriating,” said Harrington, 37. “He did the right thing; he went in for help. I just can’t get my head around it.”
OK I read it and as usual no description of what the “help” is.
He was there for 4 days. What was done in those 4 days, how did he spend his time ?
I don’t know how the VA does things but civilian inpatient “help” you are just locked up with dozens of other distressed people in a chaotic abusive environment. Detention situations are always abusive as the Stanford Prison Experiment is always playing out on some level.
So he went for help. How was he helped the first hour ? What did they do for him on days 1-4 ? 4 days of help, what is that like and what do you do all day ??? Name 5 ways they help you.
Tired of them using that vague ass word help and never any description of what that is.
and legal oppression… Yet, this is a profoundly unwell society and the signs abound.
Its pretty bad more government money and paperworks, the solutions always offered won’t fix it.
I remember in treatment when I was still bugged out in that state where I notice things to much and I noticed the staff spent all their time faces buried in the computer screens. Three counselors they would rotate doing groups and spend a little time with each client then all the rest of the time you look through the window they are on the computer typing typing typing.
The nurse the same thing all day long face planted in the computer then their was 8-10 more people in other offices the same thing stuck to computer screens all day. I started thinking maybe the only way to get any attention at this place would be to dress up as a computer.
I started thinking how in the 1930s the first diesel tractors came out and how prior to that MOST of the population was in farming but now or As of 2008, less than 2 percent of the population is directly employed in agriculture. 2% !! Modern tractors and farm equipment changed everything.
Well in the 1980s the personal computer came out, then windows and the internet e-mail fax machines.
An action that used to involve digging through a file cabinet, an envelope and mailman and a phone call now is just a few keystrokes and mouse clicks. A few people with the modern internet can do the office work it took dozens of people to do 40 years ago.
So why is it with the invention of modern farm equipment now only 2% of the population farms but with the same radical improvements in the efficiency of office and communication technology why do we have more people doing paperwork then ever before ????
Honestly that clipart of a head on a platter creeped me out and I did not read this yet. I wonder how many potential readers skipped it after seeing that.
Facebook is so creepy I am glad I never signed up for it.
I thought about it and putting my picture and information on Facebook, and the internet in general, seemed very similar to just posting my picture and information on the wall of a public bathroom in a train station or highway rest stop for anyone and everyone to look at.
As the first set of automatic doors opened and slowly closed, I realized my children, husband, friends, and family were no longer available to me. When the second set of locked doors clicked shut, my freedom of movement and privacy left. As the third set of doors slammed behind me, dignity, respect, and even intelligence were stripped from me. Read more https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/five-lessons-i-learned-from-visiting-er-with-suicidal-ideation-0920137
I searched Google “what happens if you say your suicidal” and the above was first page results.
These Meta-analysis will always be wrong cause people know after the first time to deny feeling suicidal cause of what happens when they do.
I think the problem is if you were treated nicely many people would say they are suicidal when they are not.
Schools Look More Like Correctional Facilities Than Learning Institutions
Microcosms of the police state, America’s public schools contain almost every aspect of the militarized, intolerant, senseless, overcriminalized, legalistic, surveillance-riddled, totalitarian landscape that plagues those of us on the “outside.”
We need a Community Approach to turning our detention centers back into schools and maybe we wouldn’t have a problem kids refusing to go to “school.”
Seriously ? 29.9 billion !! $29,900,000,000 is that really 29,900 million ? It is they spend one million dollars 29,900 times, WTF ? What a waste.
Everyone hates those “ask your doctor” ads.
I just picked one and typed in Zoloft and Google auto suggested “Zoloft withdrawal symptoms.” That is great cause many people Google a new medication and are informed about the withdrawal part unlike in most doctors offices.
As long as Google doesn’t play “algorithm” games with search results and suggestions like they do with current events an politics I think we can the war on anti depressants.
In my opinion it was people getting sick and posting online that led to this “war” otherwise they would still be denying withdrawal symptoms happen like back in 2007 when I was sick from psychiatric drug withdrawal and they told me that cant be true cause the poison they gave me was “non addictive.”
So far we have 30 topics https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/forum/psychiatric-drug-withdrawal/
These forum testimonials online are the research. Before these what ever the drug rep said was all you could get.
I was given Zyprexa off label in 2007 when they were pushing that poison for everything before Eli Lilly got busted years later I got diabetes and the withdrawal was so horrific. It probably made me pre diabetic and I never knew it.
There is no way that diabolical poison “olanzapine” helps anyone long term, you would be better off prescribing heroin as the withdrawal syndrome is a few days of being really sick instead of weeks and months of nausia and insomnia from hell with that poison posing as medicine Zyprexa.
If off label use almost killed me using that poison on people “on label” is nothing more then a death sentence as I don’t see how they could do the withdrawals and ‘bipolar’ or ‘Schizophrenia’ at the same time. No doubt get stuck on those poisons for life as withdrawals are labelled “returning symptoms” at every attempt to stop ingesting that anhedoinia brain poison.
Psychiatry is an atrocity, a holocaust of mass poisonings sickness and death.
“Department of Children and Families”. How is that for some Orwellian shit ?
I think what the government really needs one big department of stay the F out of our lives that would include ditching this ASIST suicide thing that only screws people up more.
Youtube activism is over.
I went to look for those videos posted on YouTube by people who secretly record DCF abuse in their homes and the search results for this are all mainstream corporate news videos. YouTube rigged all their search results to favor corporate news organizations rather than actual YouTubers.
Its not actual censorship they just bury the results under 100s or 1000s of corporate news Youtube channels. I keep posting on the Infowars comment section that someone needs to make an “anti censorship” browser extension that works similarly to an ad blocker to block out MSM media results. I hope someone takes my idea and makes it work. I first noticed what YouTube did after Hurricane Micheal. It was impossible to find real YouTuber videos of the hurricane behind the wall of corporate media YouTube channels in the search results.
I still think people should record DCF, they are known to lie all the time.
Its just sad internet censorship once the thing of conspiracy theories is quickly becoming a reality.
I got a voice call yesterday she is alright. Texting sucks, you can’t hear how people are feeling.
“Go into any inner-city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach kids to learn.They know that parents have to parent, that children can’t achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white.”
—Barack Obama, Keynote Address, Democratic National Convention, 2004
This video explains how our cities became depressing places much better then the article. The Title is simple “Why Modern Architecture sucks” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GapUEKYLE1o
He calls the designers “aesthetic terrorists” lol, but its very well researched with an entertaining presentation, I learned alot about Architecture stuff from this video.
I found this a wile back. The Clinical Textbook of Biblical Psychiatry http://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/welcome.htm
On the other end of the spectrum you have clowns like Rick Warren, psychiatry killed his son but his church is affiliated with NAMI (National alliance on Mental Illness) that pharma front group and even after his son committed suicide after seeing all the “best” doctors he still pushes psychiatry.
“There is not enough support for families of mentally ill because the pendulum swung the other way to care for the individual rights of privacy.”
“the pendulum has swung the other way to human rights so much that many parents and family members cannot get a conservatorship, cannot get a control over somebody.” – Rick Warren
RICK: If love could keep a mentally ill kid alive, Matthew would be alive. He was in a stable family, church system, friends. I’ve got a doctorate. I’ve done a lot of counseling. Kay’s done counseling. I’m used to doing cognitive therapy, helping people talk through problems. None of that helps if you’re mentally ill. It’s like saying to a bird with a broken wing, “Just believe you can fly.”
Anyway I was just watching the news like any other day I see that Clown Rick warren on CNN with all the NAMI talking points. I just wanted to yell at the TV, no Rick you stupid clown psychiatry killed your kid like they almost killed me !!
“sustained investments in schools, housing and quality job-training programs”
That never works. They need to take all the public housing and just give it to the people currently living in it, print out titles and make them owners. Owners take 1000 times better care of things then tenants. Who invests anything in something they don’t own ?
Look at the house in the photo this article, the people in it don’t own it so it is in disrepair.
Search results, read and learn time http://www.google.com/search?q=liberals+destroy+inner+cities
Liberals destroy inner cities and that doesn’t mean by default that conservatives have the answer any more then the man on the moon, it just means their policies failed.
And PS she lives with her mother and family, I had that much at least knowing she wasn’t alone someplace even if problems with them contributed to the distress in the first place. She just wants to be on her own and her comes that word the family wants her ‘safe’ with them and she doesn’t have the money to leave and come live around here again. Going crazy with boredom not accomplishing anything being stuck and she is struggling with mental stuff I don’t even know what describe it using DSM code but psychiatry won’t help. Her mother was asking me but there is really nothing they have to ‘fix’ whats going on. When she has money and a place she functions just doing her thing even if its strange sometimes.
What they did to you is a crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting and time wasted on false reports is stolen from finding children in real danger.
I recently had a friend sending me some I am going to kill myself texts and I texted back WTF are you doing delete those texts right now. I was left with those scary thoughts of what if she does something stupid and it would be my fault for not doing something. She is over 1000 miles away only gets texts, minutes ran out but I did the math on it and calling her mother and saying I was getting these texts or the authorities I would just become more evidence to support the belief “you can’t trust anyone.” Then if there is another crisis of course I would not be contacted.
Its a tough spot but I know what would happen if if I took some action and the authorities showed up, a complete nightmare. Police cars and flashing lights in front of the house making the neighbors come outside to see you upset getting dragged off maybe an ambulance. That would be “helpful” for years to come being the one on the block dragged off by the authorities.
I would not have slept better cause she was “safe” after inflicting that nightmare but I am thinking people who don’t know what “help” is certainly would consider calling help.
This comment would have been different if I didn’t just go through this, probably would have just wrote about that hospital falsely labeling me suicidal as a billing and holding excuse and what a nightmare that was. All I can say is it really sucks when someone is saying suicidal things and you personally know what “help” really is.
How do you know this ? Seems to me if it hurts to move people are going to do less moving.
This debate is for people with chronic pain to be having not for us as outside observers that’s why I always paste in links to their websites. They know whats best for them more then we do.
Forcing Pain Patients Off Their Meds Won’t End the Opioid Crisis
A relentless focus on reducing the number and dosage of opioid prescriptions is wreaking hell on people in intractable pain—while failing to treat addiction or reduce overdose deaths
In Oregon, a state Medicaid committee is now determining whether all existing chronic pain patients on opioids should be forcibly tapered starting in 2020 because of concerns about “overdose and death”— https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/7xqa44/forcing-pain-patients-off-their-meds-will-not-end-the-opioid-crisis
And of course people on opiates are depressed cause chronic pain patients are treated the same as people on probation for criminal offences.
Maybe write that the comment section is in favor of the facilities because victims of the places won’t comment with stupid Facebook.
I never hear anything good about Facebook but alot of creepy stuff
I am glad I never bothered signing up for that.
The comment section on this article could use a few from MIA readers. I can’t write one cause I don’t have Facebook to Log in with.
“Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo has committed the state to building 20,000 new supportive housing units, and state lawmakers so far have allocated $2.6 billion to create the first 6,000 units by 2021.”
$2,600,000,000 diivided by 6000 units equals $433,333 per unit
http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+coumo+corruption bribes and kickbacks all that dirty stuff NY criminal politicians.
“The lawsuit does not seek an order requiring the six men to be freed”. Instead these men are being used to push a political agenda by people who don’t care at all about them. Billions of dollars for them to pillage in the usual way.
The article says one of them has the BS diagnoses of “bipolar II” and “antisocial personality disorder” what total fraud calling those BS diagnoses “mental illness” that requires all these expensive programs. Corrupt political games are being played here.
Its important to remove that slander from medical records.
I remember the episode of The Honeymooners where Ed Norton goes to the psychiatrist and gets hypnotized. Looked it up I think it was called the sleep walker.
Anyway growing up in the 70s as a kid thats what we thought psychiatrists did was to hypnotize people and figure out what their psychological injury was and try and fix it. More then one TV show portrayed them that way.
“even though she did not have psychosis and begged not to be put on the medication.”
I always call forced drugging rape cause they are forcing things inside a persons body.
“coroners have written to [UK Secretary of State for Health and Social Care] Matt Hancock asking how he intends to ensure the drug does not claim more lives.”
The drug does not “claim lives” it just sits in the bottle on the shelf doing nothing till the staff in hospitals kill people by forcing them to ingest it.
I don’t know if turning prisons into re education camps is a good idea cause then society would feel less guilt about sending people to prison.
Its already totally out of control all the people in prison for victimless so called crimes and the US more of its people in jails and prisons then any nation in the history of mankind.
“The business of psychiatry is to provide society with excuses disguised as diagnoses, and with coercions justified as treatments.” – Thomas Szasz
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All I have to do is replace the M in NAMI to a Z. “Not all NAZIs”
Lately in politics people are throwing around the word NAZI over nothing but psych hospitals are the most NAZI thing we have in America. Locking people up no trail by jury and with no crime committed. The forced drugging medical experiments behind locked doors. Psychiatry and forced sterilizations.
There is more but that’s enough that I don’t get in trouble for saying NAZI over nothing.
Even the Best Local NAZI Chapter is Still a Problem
“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.” “We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests….The reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of old people, these are the belated objectives …for charting the changes in human behavior.” Brock Chisholm, 1959 Humanist of the Year and former head of World Health Organization, in the February 1946 issue of Psychiatry
We need to stop screwing with my comments.
I wonder how many cash for kids schemes are still going on ?
Trolling NAMI discussion groups
I complained that “my cousin” was abused inpatient, described the usual nightmare, and that now he refuses treatment because of it. What advice will they give me ?
Venezuela was once the wealthiest country in South America, but in recent years millions have fled the country amid mass starvation and violence after socialist policies were enacted and government seized private industries.
I don’t remember the exact words but they deny it.
This was 2 years ago. https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/someone-call-nami/
And this, https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/write-a-review-for-nami-om-yelp/
Bummer my review is gone, everyone pile on some Yelp reviews of NAMI ! Link above.
A wile back I called the NAMI helpline 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) and asked if they took money from the pharmaceutical companies. I couldn’t tell if they were instructed to lie and tell me no or if the volunteers were just ignorant.
I called several times and talked different people and then got someone that sounded like a supervisor.
I got the sense that supervisor guy was upset that I caused problems by getting the volunteers to start questioning by asking why if NAMI was a patient advocacy organization why doesn’t NAMI have anything to say about rampant abuses behind psychiatric locked doors or crimes by the pharmaceutical industry such as the Risperdal and Zyprexa scandals.
“I maintain my right not to have any psychiatric evaluation or diagnosis based upon the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) as such diagnoses are unreliable. According to Allen Frances, who was chairman of the fourth edition of DSM, “There are no objective tests in psychiatry—no X-ray, laboratory, or exam finding that says definitely that someone does or does not have a mental disorder.” (“Psychiatric Fads and Overdiagnosis,” Psychology Today, 2 June 2010.) Additionally, the DSM system is not scientific. It’s own editors state that “there is no assumption that each category of mental disorder is a completely discrete entity with absolute boundaries dividing it from other mental disorders or from no mental disorder.” (DSM-IV, pg. xxii)
Such codes and descriptions should not be entered into my medical records as this unreliable and unscientific information will remain in my records and may wrongly influence any future medical treatment I might receive.”
Millennials are also the first generation to face the computerized big brother and police state. Everything is 100 times more complicated.
“we’re lazy and entitled”
Says the baby boomer who bought his first house at 21 and started a family on one income with no college degree.
This is epic http://www.quickmeme.com/Old-Economy-Steven/page/2/
I made a meme page before finding the above link and posted a few https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/baby-boomer-vs-millennial-memes/
“addict” “drug seeking behavior”
Sometimes anxiety is crippling or the only thing that works on real pain is opiates.
Why do flood victims cry on TV news when their home gets wrecked then rebuild it in the same spot instead of up on a hill ?
I forgot about the introduction of Vyvance . That ‘prodrug’ delivery system is flawed, the peak is way to high and the crash is prolonged takes you into can’t eat/sleep psychosis.
Spice and K2 was messing people up but I dropped the ball and forgot about the introduction of Vyvance the worst for of amphetamine ever they mass drug children with now.
The old instant release wears off but Vyvance can really send you to the ER.
The “right to employment” how about the right to employ yourself without interference ?
“Business License” Government just needs to get the _ out of the way.
Its not about me or any one person its about making it difficult bully an entire population because they have the ability to fight back.
I don’t want “them” giving me some slave job a machine could do.
Abandoning farm tractors and go back to rakes and shovels is an incredibly stupid idea.
Farm labor is “fun” we could bring back sweat shops too. Lets get rid of automated sewing machines and cnc milling machines.
In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. -Stokely Carmichael
What we really need is the right to housing. The feudalistic system we have is slavery.
You don’t own your home – and you never will https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QavCw40RY3w And even better https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/08/the-feudal-history-of-property-tax-in-america/497099/
Imagine that, a world where you could just live extortion free. Everyone focuses on getting government money or $15 an hour for a “living wage” meanwhile its government itself that made living so expensive and difficult. Government hates the tiny house and off grid people.
The rest of this article is contradictory.
“His goal was to overturn the anti-democratic control of our political system by elites and put power back in the hands where it belongs — with us, ordinary people.”
Meanwhile the link promotes “super delegates” the scam the robbed Bernie Sanders.
“It is the view of many that the Constitution secures to presidential electors the freedom to vote their conscience for president and vice president. ”
So which is it and how do superdelgates put power with ordinary people ?
And “gun safety” ok sure, nothing slows down systems of oppression faster then disarming the population. Show me one example from history where THAT happened.
Everyone into selling universal basic income should read https://strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/
This ‘hits the nail on the head’ like nothing else I ever read even to me who usually sides with the so called right and capitalism.
I mean the 2nd post.
Suicide Risk in Placebo-Controlled Trials of Treatment for Acute Manic Episode and Prevention of Manic-Depressive Episode
That was in this article https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185
Studies show people will believe anything you say as long as you say ‘studies show’ before saying it.
Pick a spot https://www.landwatch.com/Land_For_Sale It has to have water, at least available well water for bathrooms showers and washing machines. I would have therapeutic workshops on carpentry where we build small cabins cause tents are lame. I would not want a 3rd world chaotic looking mess of the typical “tent city”
May want to call it a ranch. I just wanted to put the idea out there that if you found a cleaver way to get around the governments war on off grid living you could build something pretty special and possibly profitable too.
2012-2016 also were peak years for smoking spice K2 and doing what they called bath salts.
I had an idea to buy a large tract of land and pretend I was opening a regular campground to the zoning board and get all the government red tape things needed to operate a campground.
This way I could create a legal off grid community. I would have bathrooms and showers maybe a store that takes EBT. It was to be my off grid sober living place.
I think the first post says it perfectly. I was thinking the same thing. I need to learn to write like that. I was also going to say Facebook is practicing psychology without a licence.
Individual states each adopt their own licensing requirements and penalties, but all states have laws which punish practicing without a license.
Any person who practices or offers or attempts to practice as a psychologist, social worker, marriage and family therapist, licensed professional counselor, psychotherapist, or addiction counselor without an active license, registration, or certification issued under this article commits a class 2 misdemeanor and shall be punished as provided in section 18-1.3-501, C.R.S., for the first offense. Any person who commits a second or any subsequent offense commits a class 6 felony and shall be punished as provided in section 18-1.3-401, C.R.S.
As for resources, the authors should provide links to http://www.google.com/search?q=migrant+children+forced+psychiatry
The leopard cannot change its spots, the tiger cannot change its stripes.
Psychiatry is a leading edge of this operant-reconditioning program. People are taught that older systems of values are outmoded, in light of “scientific advances.” when elites fashion and impose a New World ORDER, they naturally need a way to classify the recalcitrant citizens and the rebellious and the independent. So they use the word DISORDER.
“The concept of a clean plate has many roots,” noted Connie Diekman, director of university nutrition at Washington University in St. Louis. “The starving children of the world, the lack of food during WWI or II and, of course, the fact that many people do not notice feelings of satiety and eat until the food is gone.”
Should You Force Kids to Eat? The Longterm Damage of Forcing Kids …
The short answer is no and here is why forcing kids to eat is dangerous. … “Finish Your Plate”; “Three More Bites”; “Eat All of Your Dinner”; “You Have to Eat All …
I did not even read it but the force feeding of my generation was BS
“A rage outburst was defined as sufficient agitation and loss of control such that the child was unable to “time out” (i.e. sit in a chair for 10 minutes on being told to do so) or was a danger to himself or others and a higher level of intervention was needed. In order to compare the efficacy of medication against usual treatment (i.e. seclusion/restraint), a first rage outburst in the hospital was treated non-medically; that is, the child was placed in an isolation room. The door remained open if the child was able to regain control and take the time out in the room; otherwise the door was closed. If there was a second episode, the child was told “You need some medicine to help you get back in control. Take this medicine or we may have to give you a shot”. If agreeable, the child was given 0.015 mg/kg of liquid risperidone.”
Read more https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2990969/#R23
I used to run into that are you a doctor thing alot. I couldn’t help myself and would bash psychiatry at AA meetings. Most people especially the young ones had a history of psychiatry. AA is for both alcohol and addiction these days.
If I flat out said psychiatry is BS, they keep you sick and their is nothing wrong with your serotonin some would always come back at me with “are you a doctor ?” “are you a licensed mental health professional?”
OK then, when you deprogram people, you force them to think…But I keep them off balance and this forces them to begin questioning, to open their minds. When the mind gets to a certain point, they can see through all the lies that they’ve been programmed to believe. They realize that they’ve been duped and they come out of it.
Did anyone ever get a test for this serotonin using medical science ? They told me my brain chemicals were broken but I never got any test using medical science to confirm this. No test what so ever. Then they gave me all these pills like I was a science project.
Here is a mock question and answer session with the ‘professionals’ http://www.brasscheck.com/druggingkids/
I don’t know we are in different spots me as a survivor activist and you as a caregiver. This is a tough endeavor.
How about this too ? https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/10/us-youth-diagnosed-bipolar-72-times-often-uk/ Diagnosed With Bipolar 72 Times More Often than Kids in UK !
These complaints usually land first page search results for the name of the hospital.
Have you put that story online yet ?
I always promote these consumer complaint sites because having been inside around those telephones when people were begging for help from families to get out of those hell holes families were telling them no you have to stay and get help. Then often the typical reaction people telling their family they hate them…
When people put their stories online families read them then patients are more likely to be believed when they make those calls https://www.pissedconsumer.com/post-complaint.html
Donate the money to a human rights in psychiatry organization.
http://www.google.com/search?q=keychain+dvr click on shopping. They are cheap enough if you could even sneak them in for patients to use and if they loose them it doesn’t matter. Wish I had one when I was in the hospital when they assaulted my ‘girlfriend’ a fellow patient I was palling around with. She could have used a legal settlement and what they did, grabbing her like that, I am sure they would have paid at least $50,000 to prevent a jury from seeing it.
I don’t really want to go through it again but I had the idea if I got myself admitted and had a friend bring me cameras and videoed the random staff assaults it could be a real money maker selling the videos back to them or giving them to the assault victims so they could sue and hopefully give me a share.
These places are so abusive that an entrapment-extortion scheme would be easy to pull off.
We could all learn a lesson in activism from the boarding school survivors http://wwaspsurvivors.com/about-wwasp/owners-staff/
They don’t mess around.
I wonder if it is a reaction to fake news constantly bullying trump that on some level peoples response is to want to bully back at the perceived bullies. People who side with fake news.
Go ahead and get a restraining order that won’t by you new legs after I hire couple of thugs to break them for $5,000 Cheaper then a lawyer. And since they are abusing many people how would they ever know what family was responsible ?
There are other things that can be done to people, all kinds of ideas posted in the darker corners of the internet.
“Silently document abuses” meanwhile that abuse is happening. Sorry about the beatings and the needle sticks, just hang on we are documenting the abuses.
I think most people that put their “loved ones” away in these hospitals never loved them in the first place if they are not willing to risk themselves defending them.
Ok this is my last comment. I don’t want to think about this anymore. I got other things to do.
We are talking about defending loved ones from the most horrific abuses imaginable, the stuff of nightmares, if the law won’t help I don’t see anything morally wrong with taking it to the next level with anonymous threats and actual violence. Serous shit here.
Be nice to my loved one because next time they are abused you won’t make it home from work alive. Have a nice day.
Where are you at ? We are all commenting on this one https://www.madinamerica.com/2019/01/when-the-hospital-is-sick/
I will never be in a ‘hospital’ again. If by some real long-shot I go ‘mental’ ever again alcohol is always involved and I will be at a fancy rehab, learned my lesson with ‘hospitals’ but it does help if you tell these people you will retaliate on the outside and this isn’t just for guys. A woman’s threat of my boyfriend husband will come for you if I am mistreated is also credible as people will often retaliate on the behalf of a loved one more then they will for themselves.
You too, take video of these ‘bum rushs’ and put it on YouTube with the hospital name as a title. For some reason YouTubers love violent videos and they often go viral.
“professional staff witnessing these abuses speak up” No, record it on video and put it on YouTube with the hospital name as the title and also send it off to every news outlet you can.
In my medical records they called my reaction to the whole situation a “bipolar mixed episode” and then used it as proof I needed more of the mistreatment that caused me to think about nothing else but how much I hated those people. I went to the hospital on my own after doing a pretty bad job of self medicating a nervous breakdown with alcohol. Yes I screwed up and needed detox for a few days, quite embarrassing, and walked right in to that nightmare that made everything worse.
It was the threats to try and coerce pills that set me off more then anything. I was fine before my relapse on alcohol no need for starting the maximum dose of anti psychotics and a ‘mood stabilizer’ AND a dose of Haldol. I wasn’t just swallowing that crap then spending the rest of the day experiencing the effects on my mind and body.
Maybe I shouldn’t be typing this but I had a plan that if they assaulted me with the needle I was going to get a metal pipe and run up on the person that did it wile they were walking to there car when it was over after I left the hospital and swing it as hard as I possibly could and shatter their knee cap then run away. I did warn them anyone touches me I will retaliate on the outside. I believe in fair play. No one is allowed to miss treat me like that.
Better we collect $1200 a day in insurance money from 99 then just 1.
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The Stanford Prison Experiment (SPE) was a 1971 social psychology experiment that attempted to investigate the psychological effects of perceived power, focusing on the struggle between prisoners and prison officers…
All I know is once they locked the door on me I hated those people and there was no undoing it. Lock door > strip search > threats if I didn’t go along with “squat and cough.” They call the strip search a ‘skin assessment’ they don’t care about your skin or any part of your physical health. Try and see a real doctor for physical health complaint, good luck to you. Unless they fear you might die in the place for real and getting sued.
Its the locked doors that do it, even if it wasn’t abusive and did not include coerced poll lobotomies backed up with threats of assaults and rapist style forced penetration with a needle full of drugs the locked door sets up the whole dynamic. You can’t leave and if you try they use violence on you.
OK, lets hit UHS somehow make it so if anyone searches the name of one of their hospitals they find bad results first page Google.
I mean real damage they feel. Its been done before.
UHS stock tumbles 12% after BuzzFeed investigative report https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/uhs-stock-tumbles-12-after-buzzfeed-investigative-report.html
Expose what those places are like we could seriously damage them. Buzzfeed came and went. People forgot. Negative results first page Google each hospital, That sticks around.
Most people don’t even know what UHS is and think each hospital is independent. Time to expose and ruin them.
How about deleting more forum spam ?
Had a little fun with the live help on the essay company that spams hell out of us by asking a tons of stupid questions wasting their time then saying stop screwing with us but how about that delete button ?
I did most of the work. We got hit again today.
Yes its war, back me up. I am going to be “anti social” towards that “write essay” company spamming us.
Oh good everyone is playing nice now !
This website is run by psychologists obsessed with studying behaviors, was this just a big experiment ?
Ok sorry my “anti social” personality is coming out. I was being a troll. I do try and only use the anti social part of me for doing good things, like the robin hood excuse. Anyway this activism against psychiatry really helped me in the path to recovery. I was hurt by it all and needed an avenue to fight back and being nice about it was never a priority.
Just keep doing what you are doing publicizing the abuses in those hospitals. I like doing it directing my own anti social ways at them for a good cause.
I am out for now.
It was always anxiety combined with withdrawal that pushed me into ‘psychosis’ where I believed I was dying or already dead.
Since we are on this topic of separating people by diagnosis I vote to segregating all the suicidal people into one section of the hospital so the rest of us don’t have to be subjected to the dehumanizing suicide protocols.
I mean what the hell, I bug out and go to the hospital thinking I am dying trying to avoid death this incredibly intense feeling of impending doom the next thing they got me upstairs no shoe laces being followed around by Mr Clipboard so I don’t kill myself ?
Always been scared of death, as a kid seeing cemeteries and coffins thinking what if I am not dead but they bury me anyway ?
Make I statements ! “We” it feels like I am back in group.
No way. We haven’t had any action on this site in so long. Its usually just a drive by, read an article a quick comment then check the next day and no replies. Repeat with the new story.
“What’s really important about my ex is that he was a meth addict I met in a partial hospitalization program. So you can see how being exposed to such patients is incredibly dangerous for vulnerable people like me.”
I have seen it 100 times working at that treatment center. These slick sacks of crap coming down on the ladies like vultures. Hi girl, this is my 14th treatment but THIS time I am quitting !!
And I am going to start my own business / open a tattoo shop and bal bla bla I have no life experience besides dropping out of school, getting high and in trouble for years but I am real good at behaving like everything I see in rap videos !! I can also speak street slang and spit alot.
Then you have dudes like me “I can save her” tried that twice all this drama and getting cornered into no win situations. OK lets just do all the things YOU want to do !!
Seriously though I have seen it so many times “beginner” women get lured in buy the ones who have been around the block preying on their vulnerabilities. The ones that brag about the number of partners they have had like there is some kind of prize for the high score besides an empty life.
New girl comes she is surrounded immediately. We had a counselor that used to warn against it telling them they have broken pickers, your picker is broken don’t get in a relationship till you have been sober for a wile.
Its true, cause these women didn’t seem like dudes who somewhat had it together myself included, they liked the damn clowns for some reason. That low self esteem they get scared of healthy dudes I had a counselor tell me.
Here I go maybe saying something offensive. Talk on egg shells no thanks. I am not saying you or your ex fit anything I have described. Just a testimony to what I have seen being around this for years.
When I worked at the rehab center at least twice a month someone had an anxiety attack and the emergency responders showed up.
A few times I lied and said we had someone with epilepsy and exposure to flashing lights can trigger seizures. That was the only way to get those guys to turn that flashing light crap off that makes a crowd gather. Another time I asked why they send a ladder truck when no one is stuck in a tree or on the roof.
There is no practical reason for making such a scene with those lights
Wrote about this in 2013 https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/ems-ambulance-flashing-lights-why-cant-they-just-shut-them-off-at-your-house/
I am tired of this.
I made a topic I think would be useful https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/what-is-the-battle-plan-for-fighting-psychiatric-abuse/
“Anti-seizure drugs” this story is very dishonest protecting psychiatric practice that drug is mostly given for so called bipolar not just a threatening condition of seizures a medical problem.
“The Government wishes to express its sincere regret and deep sympathy for the injury and suffering endured by all those affected when expectant mothers took the drug thalidomide between 1958 and 1961,” he told the House of Commons. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/jan/14/thalidomide-apology-government
The one rare case they apologized it took 50 years. All the stories on this website the crimes of psychiatry and pharma ever once hear they said say sorry ??
I tried to defuse it, the web archive came around the first time when there was only 3 comments https://web.archive.org/web/20190112201450/https://www.madinamerica.com/2019/01/ten-hospitalizations-three-years/
2 are mine.
I put alot into this fight spreading the message, probably a million views at least learning to be almost a hacker getting kicked off websites then just signing up again the IP address game every time I tried to criticize psychiatry and tell me story or post anything against the narrative.
What is the narrative here that you have to like everyone you are in treatment with because they are just “sick” or something.
I wrote about telling someone who was manic to STFU on the story “Individuals with Psychosis Symptoms More Likely to be Victimized”
Yes I did that, I started with him cause he was running his mouth outside the AA club. Manic or not he was starting S and I gave him some but I look back and my post is gone cause it doesn’t fit the narrative that they are all victims. This dude was an ass not a victim.
Anyway play that game with the report button on me it only gets worse.
Your right but NOTHING pushes my buttons quite like censorship. Actually not much else does. Its the one big button I got.
I put that time into writing that football analogy maybe not a ton and I look and its gone. That’s the biggest FU ever. In those wrenched institutions they take away your say about anything I won’t just take it online.
The only reason I am here is because when I was in that “hospital” I said when this is over I am speaking out.
Hard enough that the psychiatric establishment has the billions for marketing and lobbyists now we have to also take on the burden of PC speech only. F that.
You got a valid point that people should be able to get help without being surrounded by predatory people but you described them using “wrong speech”
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I should really quit this. I rode and was a big part the wave against ‘big pharma’ the chemical imbalance lie spreading that info across the internet . The pharma lawsuits.
WTF are we doing now ? Forums are dead, we have no battle plan anymore.
“This series is being developed through a UMASS Boston initiative supported by a grant from the Open Society Foundation. The interviews are being led by UMASS PhD students who also comprise the Mad in America research news team.”
Website was taken by the NWO.
Drain the swamp.
I was reading toomuchblood the chapter. I lived it too, psychosis in jail. I think I got “triggered”, ya I did.
Wouldn’t it be fun to hurt those people back ? Those soulless just doing my job types. Have it completely turned around and be the one inflicting it on them. You weren’t very nice to me, I never did a thing to you but I am going to F you up now real bad. THAT would be fun.
I hope these 2 that drowned the 2 women in the prison van go to jail and get housed with the rapists and pedophiles. Cops don’t do well in jail. Before they even drowned those women they were guilty of crimes against humanity.
“Thompson said his office was responding to court orders to transport the women from a hospital and a mental-health center. The sheriff’s office transports 1,200 patients per year, traveling up to 40,000 miles each month, he said.”
F them and their cage van. “just doing my job” doesn’t work with me. You torture 1,200 people a year, you could get a job doing something else.
There is a part of me that evil now too. Most people will go their entire lives never see the inside of a jail or so called hospital. When I see on TV a cop got hurt it makes me happy. That’s evil I guess but it does. They are that system.
I remember the first hospital I was like WTF I never knew this existed in our “civilized” society. I never knew anyone could just arbitrarily take your rights completely away like that.
Again what lead me here was the threat of injection when I refused those dangerous pills. Injection. That is inside me. That is a rape. My body is the only thing I own in this world. You can’t poison it. They are lucky they didn’t do that. I would have retaliated. I had it all planned, made the plan in the hospital. I was just going to run up on the person that did it and hit them in the knee with a metal pipe as hard as I possibly could, one hit a complete shatter, then run away. I was thinking do it on Halloween the only day no one questions you wearing a mask.
I shouldn’t even read that stuff. I was ‘triggered’. I already know about the horrors hiding behind locked doors.
Maybe I am having bad day. Keep sitting down expecting to play computer for 20 minutes and it turns into 3 or 4 hours. Been in that pattern for 2 weeks now.
Anyway when I was very new at this I made the exact same mistake calling out the personality disorders. Thu Jan 19, 2012 http://www.psychforums.com/bipolar/topic110988.html
I had no idea this would happen, I figured people who identified with bipolar were tired of the mix up. The whole site came at me, then all my posts had to be moderator approved. 7 years ago and still I can only post in the anti psych forum without moderator approval. Who cares, its the only place worth writing.
Did you really say good and evil are irrelevant concepts ?
Another cofounder of the WFMH, Canadian psychiatrist G. Brock Chisholm, reinforced this master plan in 1945 by targeting religious values and calling for psychiatrists to free “the race…from its crippling burden of good and evil.”
In his book The Death of Satan, author Andrew Delbanco refers to the disappearing “language of evil” and the process of “unnaming evil.” Until psychiatry’s emergence, societies had operated with very clear ideas on “moral evil.”
Today, however, we hear euphemisms like “behavioral problem” or “personality disorder.” Delbanco describes these as notions “…in which the concept of responsibility has disappeared and the human being is reconceived as a component with a stipulated function.
There was a much better web page then that but I can’t find it cause so many people describe psychiatry as evil it got buried in the search results.
” I put so much work into it but it was all for nothing.”
You can’t judge the results by the over reaction of half a dozen snowflakes. 1800 views divided by 9 peoples negative reactions. Big deal. That’s 1 in 200.
Think about a bunch of guys watching football. It looks like everyone is loving it cause guys are expected to like football but alot of us can’t stand it cause most of it is commercials and people standing around the field, its all waiting but those that don’t like football usually pretend to be enjoying the game to fit in because the illusion is everyone else is wile contributing to the illusion that all dudes like football.
Its the same thing happening here. The negative reaction is creating the illusion that “everyone” feels a certain way and people that agree are afraid to speak up.
Tradition 11 : Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films.
Court orders go directly against their own founding guidelines. attraction rather than court orders !!
If I ever chair a meeting I would refuse to sign court cards because I will not be a part of the “justice” system by proxy. Not my job to help them in any way.
Sounds like a plan.
I think the trick to that would be to try and design the page so it shows up in searches for the names of those hospitals. Like a sub page for each one.
The only opinions of any value to me are from people who have tried the stuff.
Maybe if the mental health system was any good at helping with mental health after 10 hospitalizations a person would sound more “mainstream” instead of clearly dramatized by the whole ordeal like I was.
Maybe that is the whole point of this.
I liked this story, my last go around some of those people in treatment OMG.
Political correctness ruins the debate. There was a chance here to explain about personality disorders and what causes that atrocious behavior exhibited by enough of therm to create a stereo type but instead worry about everyone’s fragile feelings.
You can make people not say what they think but they will still think it and they will likely keep thinking it because there was never a discussion. The answer to “bad” speech is more speech. Not PC censorship.
She called me a criminal cause I had addiction, who cares ? Even the treatment center never shut the * up about our “honesty.”
Have fun with it. I was at an AA meeting and the chair person kept saying WE ALL have to stop being lairs and cheats so I finally raised my hand and said “except for me” everyone stopped and looked at me and I explained I drank to deal with anxiety so leave me out of the WE ALL part with the lairs and cheats that’s not who I am or ever was . Then was the sharing part on the topic of honesty and again some said WE and again I interrupted and said except for me.
It was funny as hell.,
One of my posts on UHS has 8671 views https://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic192479.html
Here I made a list of them and included what hellholes they are https://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic174650.html
5390 more views in mental health forum where it counts. Their costumers.
The best revenge is to write reviews. They think they were slick lying on my medical record to hold me longer to get money, $17,000. By now my reviews drove away at least 2 people and I cost them that much.
MIA got 206 views LOL https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/03/74299/
I hit them with this site too https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/fort-lauderdale-behavioral-health-center-reviews/
The trick is to get a link in Google search results that people find when they search the name of a UHS hellhole and expose what they are about to even more people.
Its a double win because I lead more people to this website.
Its become a fun hobby for sure. F_ UHS !
Not likely all the thin skin people got all upset if their diagnosis was “insulted.” Wile at the same time they insist the diagnosis is scientifically invalid.
So if I get diagnosed as a space alien and then someone writes something negative about space aliens should I be insulted when I know I am not from outer space ?
You can’t admit that part of the psychiatric inpatient experience can include being exposed to some really horrible characters ?
“The fact that this got past the editors shows a serious lapse of judgement at MIA. Shame on all involved.”
Oh come on, what are we children supposed be protected in some online “safe space” bubble?
Stop with the thin skin and chill out.
Someone pushed the report button on me. Dude was a jerk, “mental illness” is not an excuse to always be the victim.
The libertarian label fits me best and I don’t believe in drug prohibition.
Fully informed consent is a must.
“Also, when I was admitted I was usually wearing something I wouldn’t be allowed to wear in the hospital. ”
I wore a hat to the hospital and they took it, dress code of some sort then they give you that awful shampoo that frizzes out your hair I guess to make you look like a mental patient. I looked terrible even in the plastic mirror.
So the next day I said to them I need my hat and I forget what the excuse for not being able to get the one I came in with but I requested a replacement and they said “we can’t get you a hat” I must have looked like a killer I was so pissed and I said say to me you WON’T get me a hat who the F do you think I am that I will believe its not possible for anyone to go down the street and buy a baseball hat ?? They got me one.
I hated those people so bad right from the beginning their strip search then their threatening behavior when I attempted to refuse the “squat and cough” part of the strip search when I came in. How disgusting. F them. All bets were off after being treated like that.
Hospital staff had the “personality disorders” 10 times more then anyone else.
Disregard for others needs or feelings
Recurring problems with the law
Repeated violation of the rights of others
Aggressive, often violent behavior
Disregard for the safety of self or others
Lack of remorse for behavior
That’s every behavior those hospitals exhibit.
Now check this out https://www.buzzfeed.com/tag/uhs
And after also reading that all the crimes of UHS psychiatric facilities who really has the “personality disorders” the patients or the people who own and run these places ?
(Stock price: UHS (NYSE) today $125.73) List of places they own https://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic174650.html
I had my fun venting about the other people in rehab above but none of them ever treated me like that so called “hospital.” Damn kidnapping is what that crap is.
That place was so awful, they even assaulted my “girlfriend” I palled around with in the place for refusing to go sit down in the cafeteria dragged her out screaming. That was the “healing atmosphere” of the place constant threat of assault by staff. Violence every few hours.
I have something that’s not really fair. Why is it for alcohol and addiction treatment you can go to a nice resort style place with beaches pools and palm trees, insurance pays for this, but for mental health their are very few choices besides the typical locked psych BS ?
You wrote “I am a victim of this group of people.”
I believe you. Its not always bad but my last go around with inpatient I was surrounded by low lives. I totally understand why you equate addiction with criminality and defective personalities.
I always found the mental health patients to be better company then the straight up addicts. I like the Alcoholics better too. I am ‘team alcohol’. I will take the more in your face alcoholic who tells it like it is over the passive aggressive addict behavior any day.
They have done a pretty good job convincing people that alcoholism and addiction are the same thing but its different. Usually people who self medicate anxiety like the alcohol and it gets the best of them.
Stereo-types are real. But I have to add that one of my buddies was labelled “border line” and was a cutter, he recovered from that. That dude is more honorable then most people you would ever meet. Been friends for years.
My last inpatient was rough and it wasn’t the locked place I wrote about in the first post. You can pick any treatment center you want from a huge selection. You can’t pick out the people who will be there with you. Sometimes you loose that lottery.
Read the study you posted. This was a descriptive-correlation study. The statistical population consisted of all prisoners of Kerman, Iran. Iran is a totally different culture so that study means nothing here.
America is the land of Mass Incarceration
Study: 1 in 3 Americans Arrested By Age 23
And the study above doesn’t even include those kidnapped by the government “arrested” for traffic ticket revenue schemes.
I have done “illegal” drugs. I am not a “criminal.” No way, absolutely not. I simply don’t recognize governments authority to tell me otherwise. They are just people same as me who came into this world the same way I did. How are they special ??
Of course they have the states legal use of violence and kidnapping (arrest) to back them up but they are still just people like me. If I want to do some ‘illegal’ drugs I will and of course take precautions not to get the attention of the ‘authorities’. I don’t party much anymore but if anyone has some extra Xanax… lol
Anyway my definition of crime is an act that directly causes harm to another human being not just breaking some arbitrary rule of behavior. Without creating a victim who can claim damages committing a crime is impossible.
I was going to call that out too BUT as an “alcoholic” I noticed that it was the usually addicts in rehab who were more often manipulative and dishonest.
I finally learned that if someone came at me with the pre question “hey can I ask you a question?” the next questions always lead to borrowing money. One sack of crap tells me it’s his kids birthday next week and he needs money to buy a card… as he pulls a cigarette from an 8 dollar pack.
These days if anyone starts with the line “can I ask you a question?” I immediately say no you can’t borrow money. And alot of them come with warning labels though, just look for neck tattoos.
I agree lumping all addicts into a category is not right but I understand where that comment came from. Technically I am also an ‘addict’ . For a wile I loved that Adderal high and was badly dependent on benzos but I am not insulted.
And the sleep deprivation, if you finally get to sleep you can’t sleep long because of that blood pressure check thing at 6:15 am designed to circumvent a patients right to undisturbed rest. Every morning started with anger getting jolted out of sleep by the threatening goons.
“This time I was in the psychotic ward. Everyone there was enraged.”
I was too. I was threatened with injection for refusing a very dangerous debilitating amount of pills including Haldol . I threatened them back. If you people assault me when I see you outside this place I will assault and inject you with something to. I told them in a calm cold way cause I know they are trained to watch your hands are you making fists getting ready. I saw them come at others for ‘acting out’. Constant violence in that place.
Are you making threats do we need to call the police they ask me. Ya go ahead all I did was make the exact same threats at you that you did at me so I will also file a report. They did not call. I wanted to leave with the police they don’t have forced drugging in jail. I continued to refuse, they never touched me.
Before going to the ER for alcohol detox I was self medicating a nervous breakdown with alcohol. Every day waking up with massive anxiety then drinking to make it go away over and over. I said F this and went to hospital voluntarily. I should have had normal hospital bed not transported to that hell hole. They never gave me detox meds.
I had other hospitalizations before that, clonopin adderal remeron zyprexa.. Told a doctor I had trouble sleeping “insomnia is a symptom of depression” I was told and that prescribing snowball followed, that nightmare was behind me off that crap but this was the hospitalization that lead me here to MIA.
“Furthermore, the emotional response to cultural activities such as music has been found to involve brain regions critical to the processing of positive emotions and reward,”
Its like use it or loose it or something.
This is interesting because when trying to get over zyprexa/olanzapine induced anhedonia that did not go away after quitting that poison I took amphetamines (adderal) just to be able to feel any kind of positive emotions and reward and it was almost like it reset something as I had forgotten what positive emotions and reward felt like but once I felt them from the amphetamine a few times it helped with the motivational anhedonia even without it.
This was over 10 years ago, still angry no one from Eli Lilly went to prison for illegally marketing that poison and hurting thousands of people. Killing some too.
You might like this https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185
And my favorite part of the above is diagnosing bipolar and everything else before acute and post acute withdrawals are over. Thankfully in the last 10 years from what I have seen they have chilled out on that just a little.
Olanzapine gave me diabetes years after the withdrawal sickness. That diabolical s*** is in the same class of evil as Thalidomide.
Every book on how to make Olanzapine should be burned, every computer file deleted and any chemist that has it memorized gotten rid of. Erased from History- Like Hatshepsut, the bearded female king of Egypt. Memory holed and with any luck no one would accidentally synthesize the Devil again.
Almost forgot my favorite part about ‘dual diagnosis’ its pretty well known that more then 80% of people that come in for drinking or addiction relaps so they fill them up with psychiatric drugs to drink and use on top of when they relapse and get even more erratic then they were before.
Here is your Zolft Abilify Gabapentin… Don’t drink with this. Ya sure. Half of them drink at the airport on the way home.
My favorite is the prescribing cascade cause that’s what happens. Make one for strictly psych drugs it goes like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UnJ4H8JLmM
I wouldn’t even take part in this if I was an anomaly and other people were getting better. Been around alcohol and addiction recovery, dual diagnosis for years. People always coming in with their big ziplock bags of pill bottles that did nothing but pave the way to treatment.
The big thing now is Gabapentin. In 2010 everyone was getting Zoloft and Abilify. It is getting better though even though our one counselor keeps perpetuating the serotonin myth.
I think the best tool for recovery/stability is getting into fitness. They need to emphasize that more. Alot more. Insurance companies should pay for gym memberships.
IMO the stupidest thing they do to recovering alcoholics and addicts is put them on bipolar drugs to “stabilize” them. We like to fly high, hard enough getting used to doing the world sober and they add pills to make you tired flat zombie on top of it. One of the top complaints new in recovery “nothing is fun sober” so why flatten them further ? What I nightmare that was when I went along with that. You want to party just to feel something. And I did.
And most of the time bipolar is a crock, bipolar II certainly is.
Nice info-graphics on that webpage !
Highlight any of them > Right click > Search with Google > Even the censored Google reviews the same thing. UHS hospitals its always the same, 1 star long detailed emotional reviews by real people and fake 5 stars by employees using generic words to try and push the rating up.
No replies. Yippy ! I get to be an army of one around here with all you “activists.” Bunch of posers.
In case anyone wants to help with this project, list of UHS abusive hellholes. Find them on YELP and post the information.
Adolescent Substance Abuse Program, Fort Walton Beach, FL
Alabama Clinical Schools, Birmingham, AL
Alhambra Hospital, Rosemead, CA
Alliance Health Center, Meridian, MS
Anchor Hospital, Atlanta, GA
Arbour – Fuller Hospital, South Attleboro, MA
Arbour – HRI Hospital, Brookline, MA
Arbour Counseling Services, Rockland, MA
Arbour Hospital, Boston, MA
Arbour Senior Care, Rockland, MA
Arrowhead Behavioral Health, Maumee, OH
Atlantic Shores Hospital, Fort Lauderdale, FL
Aurora Pavilion Behavioral Health Services, Aiken, SC
Austin Lakes Hospital, Austin, TX
Belmont Pines Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Benchmark Behavioral Health Services, Woods Cross, UT
Bloomington Meadows Hospital, Bloomington, IN
Blue Mountain Academy, Grand Terrace, CA
Boulder Creek Academy, Bonners Ferry, ID
Brentwood Behavioral Healthcare of Mississippi, Flowood, MS
Brentwood Hospital, Shreveport, LA
Brighton Behavioral Health Center, Portsmouth, VA
Bristol Youth Academy, Bristol, FL
Brooke Glen Behavioral Health, Fort Washington, PA
Brynn Marr Hospital, Jacksonville, NC
Calvary Center, Phoenix, AZ
Canyon Ridge Hospital, Chino, CA
Cedar Grove Treatment Center, Murfreesboro, TN
Cedar Ridge Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK
Cedar Ridge Residential Treatment Center, Oklahoma City, OK
Cedar Springs Behavioral Health Services, Colorado Springs, CO
Centennial Peaks Hospital, Louisville, CO
Center For Change, Orem, UT
Central Florida Behavioral Hospital, Orlando, FL
Chicago Children’s Center, Chicago, IL
Clarion Psychiatric Center, Clarion, PA
Coastal Behavioral Health, Savannah, GA
Coastal Harbor Treatment Center, Savannah, GA
Columbus Behavioral Center, Columbus, IN
Community Behavioral Health, Memphis, TN
Compass Intervention Center, Memphis, TN
Copper Hills Youth Center, West Jordan, UT
Cottonwood Treatment Center, So. Salt Lake, UT
Creekside Academy, Sacramento, CA
Crescent Pines Hospital, Stockbridge, GA
Cumberland Hall Hospital, Hopkinsville, KY
Cumberland Hospital, New Kent, VA
Cypress Creek Hospital, Houston, TX
Del Amo Hospital, Torrance, CA
Desert Valley Hope Academy, Hemet CA,
Diamond Grove Center, Louisville, MS
Dover Behavioral Health System, Dover, DE
Emerald Coast Behavioral Hospital, Panama City, FL
Fairfax Hospital, Kirkland, WA
Fairmount Behavioral Health System, Philadelphia, PA
FHCHS of Puerto Rico, San Juan, PR
Fieldston Preparatory School, Titusville, FL
First Home Care – VA, Portsmouth, VA
Forest View Hospital, Grand Rapids, MI
Fort Lauderdale Hospital, Fort Lauderdale, FL
Foundations Behavioral Health, Doylestown, PA
Foundations for Living, Mansfield, OH
Fox Run Center for Children and Adolescents, St. Clairsville, OH
Fremont Hospital, Fremont, CA
Friends Hospital, Philadelphia, PA
Glen Oaks Hospital, Greenville, TX
Good Samaritan Counseling Center, Anchorage, AK
Gulf Coast Treatment Center, Fort Walton Beach, FL
Gulf Coast Youth Academy, Fort Walton Beach, FL
Hampton Behavioral Health Center, Westampton, NJ
Harbor Point Behavioral Health Center, Portsmouth, VA
Hartgrove Hospital, Chicago, IL
Havenwyck Hospital, Auburn Hills, MI
Heartland Behavioral Health Services, Nevada, MO
Heritage Oaks Hospital, Sacramento, CA
Hermitage Hall, Nashville, TN
Hickory Trail Hospital, DeSoto, TX
High Point Treatment Center, Cooper City, FL
Highlands Behavioral Health, Littleton, CO
Hill Crest Behavioral Health Services, Birmingham, AL
Holly Hill Hospital, Raleigh, NC
Horace Mann Academy, Rockledge, FL
Horizon Health Management, Lewisville, TX
Intermountain Hospital, Boise, ID
Jefferson Trail Treatment Center, Charlottesville, VA
Kempsville Center for Behavioral Health, Norfolk, VA
Keys of Carolina, Charlotte, NC
Keystone Center, Wallingford, PA
Kingwood Pines Hospital, Kingwood, TX
La Amistad Behavioral Health – Adult Program, Winter Park, FL
La Amistad Behavioral Health Services, Maitland, FL
Lakeside Behavioral Health System, Memphis, TN
Laurel Heights Hospital, Atlanta, GA
Laurel Oaks Behavioral Health Center, Dothan, AL
Laurel Ridge Treatment Center, San Antonio, TX
Liberty Point Behavioral Healthcare, Staunton, VA
Lighthouse Care Center of Augusta, Augusta, GA
Lighthouse Care Center of Conway, Conway, SC
Lincoln Prairie Behavioral Health Center, Springfield, IL
Lincoln Trail Behavioral Health System, Radcliff, KY
Macon Behavioral Health System, Macon, GA
Manatee Palms Group Homes, Bradenton, FL
Manatee Palms Youth Services, Bradenton, FL
Marion Youth Center, Marion, VA
McDowell Center for Children, Dyersburg, TN
Meridell Achievement Center, Liberty Hill, TX
Mesilla Valley Hospital, LasCruces, NM
Michiana Behavioral Health Center, Plymouth, IN
Midwest Center for Youth and Families, Kouts, IN
Millwood Hospital, Arlington, TX
Milton Girls Juvenile Residential Facility, Milton, FL
Mission Bell Academy, Riverside, CA
Mojave Ridge Academy, Victorville, CA
Morongo Basin Learning Academy, Morongo, CA
Mountain Youth Academy, Mountain City, TN
Natchez Trace Youth Academy, Waverly, TN
National Deaf Academy, Mt. Dora, FL
Newport News Behavioral Health Center, Newport News, VA
North Spring Behavioral Healthcare, Leesburg, VA
North Star Behavioral Health System – Debarr, Anchorage, AK
North Star Behavioral Health System – Palmer, Palmer, AK
North Star Hospital, Anchorage, AK
Northwest Academy, Naples, ID
NorthWest Academy, Streamwood, IL
Oak Plains Academy, Ashland City, TN
Okaloosa Youth Academy, Crestview, FL
Okaloosa Youth Development Center, Crestview, FL
Old Vineyard Behavioral Health Services, Winston-Salem, NC
Palmetto Behavioral Health – Pee Dee, Florence, SC
Palmetto Behavioral Health – Summerville, Summerville, SC
Palmetto Lowcountry Behavioral Health, North Charleston, SC
Panamericano (Cidra), Cidra, PR
Parkwood Behavioral Health System, Olive Branch, MS
Peachford Hospital, Atlanta, GA
Peak Behavioral, Santa Teresa, NM
Pembroke Hospital, Pembroke, MA
Pinnacle Point, Little Rock, AR
Poplar Springs Hospital, Petersburg, VA
Prairie St. Johns, Fargo, ND
Pride Institute, Eden Prairie, MN
Professional Probation Services, Norcross, GA
Provo Canyon School, Provo, UT,
Provo Canyon School – Springville Campus, Springville, UT
Rancho Academy of Learning, Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Rancho San Diego Academy, San Diego, CA
Rivendell Behavioral Health Services, Bowling Green, KY
Rivendell Behavioral Health Services of Arkansas, Benton, AR
River Crest Hospital, San Angelo, TX
River Oaks Hospital, New Orleans, LA
River Park Hospital, Huntington, WV
River Point Behavioral Health, Jacksonville, FL
Riverdale Country School, Palm Bay, FL
Riveredge, Forest Park, IL
Rock River Academy, Rockford, IL
Rockford Center, Newark, DE
Rolling Hills Hospital, Franklin, TN
Roxbury Treatment Center, Shippensburg, PA
San Marcos Treatment Center, San Marcos, TX
Sandy Pines, Tequesta, FL
Shadow Mountain Behavioral Health Services, Tulsa, OK
Shadow Mt-Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City, OK
Sierra Vista Hospital, Sacramento, CA
Somerset School in Riverside, Riverside, CA
South Texas Behavioral Health System, Edinburg, TX
Spring Mountain Sahara, Las Vegas, NV
Spring Mountain Treatment Center Las Vegas, NV
Springwoods Behavioral Health, Fayetteville, AR
St. Louis Behavioral Medicine Institute, St. Louis, MO
St. Simons By-The-Sea, St. Simons Island, GA
Stonington Institute, North Stonington, CT
Streamwood Hospital, Streamwood, IL
Streamwood Residential Treatment Center (Elgin), Streamwood, IL
Summit Oaks Hospital, Summit, NJ
SummitRidge Hospital, Lawrenceville, GA
Talbott Recovery Campus, Atlanta, GA
Texas NeuroRehab Center, Austin, TX
The BridgeWay, North Little Rock, AR
The Brook – Dupont, Louisville, KY
The Brook – KMI, Louisville, KY
The Carolina Center for Behavorial Health, Greer, SC
The Horsham Clinic, Ambler, PA
The Hughes Center, Danville, VA
The Meadows Hospital / Universal Community Behavorial Health, Centre Hall, PA
The Pavilion at Northwest Texas, Amarillo, TX
The Pavilion Foundation, Champaign, IL
The Ridge Behavioral Health System, Lexington, KY
The Vines Hospital, Ocala, FL
Three Rivers Behavioral Health West, Columbia, SC
Three Rivers Residential Treatment – Midlands, Columbia, SC
Timberlawn Mental Health System, Dallas, TX
TMC Behavioral Health Center, Sherman, TX
Turning Point Hospital, Moultrie, GA
Turning Point Youth Center, St. John’s, MI
Two Rivers Psychiatric Hospital, Kansas City, MO
University Behavioral Center, Orlando, FL
Upper East Tennessee Regional Juvenile Detention Center, Johnson City, TN
Valle Vista Health System, Greenwood, IN
Virgin Islands Behavioral Services, St. Croix, VI
Virginia Beach Psychiatric Center, Virginia Beach, VA
Walton Youth Development Center FL
Wekiva Springs Hospital, Jacksonville, FL
Wellstone Regional Hospital, Jefferson, IN
West Hills Hospital, Reno, NV
West Oaks Hospital, Houston, TX
Westwood Lodge, Westwood, MA
Willow Springs Center, Reno, NV
Windmoor Healthcare, Clearwater, FL
Windsor-Laurelwood Center, Willoughby, OH
Wyoming Behavioral Institute, Casper, WY
Lets consume less Government. Remember that the worst polluter on planet Earth is not a major corporation– it’s the U.S. federal government. At least its partially closed right now.
“Don’t you believe women are capable of effective dissent?”
Sure they are capable but I know the world I live in and men are usually more resistant to authority.
Men are more violent. Peaceful protests that great but things usually don’t change until things get busted up. Just my observations. If I was trying to control a population I to would get rid of masculinity.
January 09, 2019 ! https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/01/09/scientists-making-war-on-traditional-masculinity-are-political-hacks/
This all came out today. The American Psychological Association explains that “traditional masculinity—marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance, and aggression—is, on the whole, harmful. Men socialized in this way are less likely to engage in healthy behaviors.”
“Healthy behaviors ” Whats that about , obeying the shitty government ?
Earth Liberation Front – Igniting a Revolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO2pA5We34A
Joint Commission Customer Support
For general questions, contact Customer Service at 630-792-5800.
Joint commission is a worthless organisation and proof of that is their stamp of approval on UHS hospitals. http://www.google.com/search?q=universal+health+services+patient+abuse
To do some activism lets all put the Joint commission contact information on Yelp Reviews for UHS hellholes. Search the name of any UHS ‘hospital’ plus Yelp to get to the review page real quick and read the nightmares, most of these people have no idea what the Joint commission even is but are angry and want to do something.
We could flood them with complaints.
One way to beat the Yelp filter is to upload a “meme” with the joint commission contact information, the reviews get ‘filtered’ but the pictures stay on top where people can see them. Yelp is tough to mess with alone, I have not had success playing around with proxies and playing games with IPs. This would really take a team effort or someone better at it then me.
Artificial intelligence filters can read text super fast and clear out the kinds of reviews they don’t want but they really suck at filtering memes. Yelps can’t do it.
Example here https://imgflip.com/i/2qqsdl
The image https://i.imgflip.com/2qqsdl.jpg download then upload to yelp.
Make a new informative image for each UHS hospital so the Yelp filter does not recognize duplicates.
Rivers in the Sky: How Deforestation Is Affecting Global Water Cycles https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-deforestation-affecting-global-water-cycles-climate-change
Global tree cover loss reached a record 29.7 million hectares (73.4 million acres) in 2016, according to new data from the University of Maryland released today on Global Forest Watch. The loss is 51 percent higher than the previous year, totaling an area about the size of New Zealand.
100 metric tons of CO2 can accumulate in one acre of forest over time. Each person generates approximately 2.3 tons of CO2 per year. The carbon footprints of 18 average Americans can be neutralized by one acre of hardwood trees.
We don’t need anymore research we need those NWO sacks of crap and fake news Fox to CNN and everything in between to call out the real cause.
They just want to tax everything, I never see any real environmentalism on the news.
I read alot of it including this.
“Millennial socialists are empathetic people who are sickened by systemic unfairness. We get angry about the fact that after the deaths of Eric Garner and his amazing daughter Erica Garner, the right has nothing to say except “Why won’t you talk about black-on-black crime?” ”
I always responded to the black on black crime thing in comment sections with STFU black on black crime has nothing to do with the government killing people at traffic stops wile using motorists for revenue.
Problem with me is I don’t buy the conservative crap either. They can take their mass incarceration failed drug war and go to hell. Both sides have crap. The left are the ones that killed Eric Garner enforcing their nanny state cigarette tax by the way.
This would be so easy for me if I could just be red team or blue team like most people. Team liberty is rough !
Back to boys in this article.
As psychologist Michael Thompson has aptly observed: “Girls behavior is the gold standard in schools. Boys are treated like defective girls.”
The war on masculinity is a war on men !
When the government really starts taking everything thing from you, try’s to control everything in your life, real men get pissed off and fight back. Those ‘toxic’ traits like violence. Give those SOBs half your paycheck, then 15K a year on a crappy 3 bedroom in property tax, then more to mandatory insurance… Fees and permits… They won’t stop till they get everything.
“The idea that psychiatry is trying to implement or support socialism is lacking in any kind of empirical support.”
And when dissent cannot be sufficiently stigmatized or criminalized, it can be pathologized > http://www.dansanchez.me/feed/the-virtue-of-defiance
I think its crazy with all the progress we made shutting down child drugging operations like “teen screen” that MIA would promote this story.
Check this out NAMI teenscreen supporter really gets hammered in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa7iQQpOMI
Photos show condition of Horry County Sheriff’s van after two mental health patients drowned
This is just evil.
“Why would they chain her and another lady to the back of a truck?” Ms. Newton’s daughter, Allison, asked afterward. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/04/us/hurricane-florence-women-drowned-deputies-charged.html
Because psychiatry isn’t help its always been a part of the prison system. They chain you to back of truck like your serial killer jeffrey dammer then advertise it to the public as help.
“Both women sought out treatment, hoping to feel better, their families said.” Ya sure they did.
Those 2 are gone, nice. At least trolls are somewhat fun but the person doing this just an ass ! Listed more spam threads.
Evidence That More Psychiatry Means More Suicide https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/01/evidence-that-more-psychiatry-means-more-suicide/
There has emerged a war on masculinity. Why? Because masculine men are harder to control under socialism. The modern beta male, on the other hand, craves socialism. This is why the left has branded masculinity as toxic: it stands as a roadblock to their endgame.
If anything these boys are depressed because they are growing up into a world doesn’t value them.
Reading what I wrote I am not so good a writer, how do I describe those damn pills (disable your mind you can’t even think but struggle to anyway combined with bodily malfunctions) to someone reading this why it was a big deal ?
Very bad situation trapped in a place given the choice swallow that horrible shit posing as ‘medicine’ or get violently assaulted and jabbed with a needle. Before it happened to me what would I think reading this I ask myself.
I did not bring it on myself by ‘acting out’ that’s why it pissed me off so bad. I saw what they did to others who ‘acted out’ just a little, sudden assault out of no place. Take down they call it.
I was in an abusive hellhole posing as help and I told them to think about the fact that some time in the future I will be outside this place on the street with them and that if anyone assaults me or sticks me with a needle I will do the same thing to them.
What happened was I refused the overdose of drugs they ordered and they came at me with the usual threats of assault and a needle as a coercion tactic so I made the exact same threat back at them. I already saw staff assaults on patients.
Are you making threats do we need to call the police ? Go ahead and call, you made the exact same threats at me first, I will file a report too. They didn’t call, I wanted to go with the police to get out of that hellhole. They don’t force drug you in jail.
Those abusers behind locked doors don’t seem to worry about what can happen to them outside on the street were there are no panic buttons and goons to come running and someday they might abuse the wrong person.
I was just an idiot who drank too much, drank myself sick over stress and voluntarily went to the ER for detox, totally embarrassing, and ended up being transported to the hellhole for so called help. The same thing happened I got accused of “rapid speech” and bipolar and was ordered to take this neuroleptic overdose a combination of 3 drugs at very high doses. I like to write this story like I was nothing but a tough guy standing up to them but I was really scared. No way could I just swallow that many drugs without going into a very nasty shuffling stuper with ‘involuntary muscle movements’ all that horrible nightmare and possibly worse. I was angry but it was desperate self defense. They were either bluffing or they could tell that if I was assaulted I would have retaliated outside the place but they never touched me and I continued to refuse.
I was actually feeling better before all that, the strip search pissed me off but I was over it, it was the second morning they came at me with the drug overdose and threats for refusing it then of course my reaction to that included ‘rapid speech’ and it was used against me and proof I ‘needed’ it.
None of those drugs were for alcohol withdrawal. I know how that’s done. Atavan or Valium, the good stuff. Not Haldol Trileptal …
When I got my medical records I saw they put me on “assault precautions” LOL, like I would start a fight inside that place outnumbered by staff wielding hypos.
Highly unlikely but if I ever get sick from drinking again not going anywhere near a ‘hospital’. They have resort style rehabs for that.
Don’t worry these pills are “non addictive” but if you try and stop taking them you get real sick.
I put this on the reminder thread https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/how-does-the-story-turn-out-reminder-thread/
On the reminder thread was this https://www.madinamerica.com/2018/11/starving-help-search-mental-healthcare-ends-tragically-fl/ cops killed another patient.
Are they still getting paid vacation ?
Their is no report button https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/ed-pills-4/
The forum is trashed with at least 100 of these stupid posts https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/handicap-accessories/
Leave a child tied up face down and he dies and no one was arrested. Meanwhile if you leave your dog in a hot car and it dies watch out the law will be all over you.
Jun 6, 2018 – Bossier City police arrested a woman Tuesday after her three dogs were found dead inside her parked car.
Jul 8, 2018 – An Alabama woman faces a felony animal cruelty charge after her dog died Wednesday, hours after it was locked inside a parked car amid …
Dog dies after being left in hot car for 5 hours at Gwinnett jail … sheriff’s Office said. Connie Wright Gomez, 46, has been charged with aggravated animal cruelty.
Jun 15, 2018 – A New York man has been arrested after allegedly leaving his dog to die in a hot car , where authorities said the temperature had soared to at …
May 23, 2018 – A Bellevue woman will spend the next year in prison after leaving two rescue dogs in a hot car. Both dogs died as a result.
I will bet $1000 no one ever gets arrested or goes to jail for killing this child.
They almost killed me the same way.
Would be nice if we could delete the spam from the forum, that ass clown with new screen name and spam links every day trashed it.
I think when the rules say don’t restrain people face down cause its known to cause deaths and you take the chance and do it anyway and someone dies that’s called something like criminally negligent homicide.
Did anyone get arrested ?
Zoning Laws Destroy Communities
Zoning laws are a violation of property rights. They destroy the sense of community in neighborhoods, increase crime, increase traffic congestion, contribute to urban and suburban air pollution, contribute to poverty, contribute to reliance in government — and, thus, reduce self-reliance — and contribute to the ruin of our schools. Most of our urban and suburban problems arose with zoning and other antiproperty laws, to which welfare programs and public housing projects have contributed. Each of these policies came out of the idea that society could and should be engineered from the top down to give rise to efficiency, community, and prosperity. What in fact resulted was the opposite outcome. Read more https://mises.org/library/zoning-laws-destroy-communities
Zoning laws: A tool for designing dysfunctional, unsocial communities
How it happened and why it has to change Read more https://medium.com/@alicheaib/zoning-laws-8e06e938a517
Before you can fix community its important to know what destroyed it in the first place.
“loneliness is not connected to social ability”
And sunburn has nothing to do with solar radiation.
Why Early School Start Times Are a Threat to Public Health https://www.rand.org/blog/2017/04/why-early-school-start-times-are-a-threat-to-public.html
That should take priority.
Little excuse these days when even a half ass doctor can input symptoms into a computer and it outputs the possibilities.
I am sorry to have to write this but as a survivor of “mental health services” its like reading that the NAZIs were collaborating with the Jews to improve the camps. I know everyone throws around the NAZI thing meaninglessly these days but those “hospitals” the constant violence, the forced drugging its downright evil.
I don’t think any consumer “recipient” what ever should cooperate with the psychiatric industry until they clean up their act and fess up to all the harms they have done. You don’t have to be an inpatient hellhole survivor either . Did they tell you about the withdrawals you would get from that SSRI ? They are dirtbags. Dirtbags that never admit theirs harms, lies, dishonesty at every level, they never address that ever.
I could write a book on all the harm done but this website is already named after a book on it.
“Recipients” would be more appropriate, its neutral enough.
Of course I would like it to be more honest like “people subjected to” mental health services.
I found some simulations on YouTube and mostly read the comments looking for what people who identify as schizophrenic had to say. One video had 15,928,626 views.
Wile not schizophrenic and never heard voices I have been to psychosis hell and I know that is just something that can’t be simulated with audio video.
“Global Mental Health”
The Globalist Agenda represents a plan to bring all of Earth’s inhabitants under the control of a single, global state. http://www.globalistagenda.org/
“Masculinity” They keep complaining about this.
A totalitarian society can only survive if the male population has been gelded, emasculated and disenfranchised. With this natural bulwark against tyranny removed, the elite can centralize power and pursue collectivist tyranny unopposed. This is why men and masculinity are under assault on every level – and why both men and women should join forces to fight back against this common enemy.
“addicts that root to ban all opiates”
I worked in the rehab and have gone to at least 1000 12 step meeting and never once met an addict who roots to ban all opiates.
“indefinite methadone/suboxone” maintenance protocol.
A ‘kid’ (early 20s) I knew from recovery last year I recently heard died of an OD. I was there when they forced him to taper off suboxone and he wasn’t happy about it and acted out and was discharged.
That was him but I don’t believe in “protocols” that is the whole problem, their algorithms and protocols the one size fits all systems the government creates treating us all like farm animals to be managed.
That ‘kid’ the last one I know that died of an OD I am pretty certain the decision was made to get him off the suboxone was based on some check box algorithm based protocol.
Check this out
“The recovering addict landed in Nassau County’s Felony Treatment Court, a program that allows defendants to avoid jail and clear their criminal records if they stay out of trouble.
To be eligible, Judge Frank Gulotta, Jr., said Robert Lepolszki would have to give up methadone, the drug he’d credited with curbing his cravings and helping him stay off heroin. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Methadone-Judge-Rule-Father-Blame-Lepolszki-Son-Overdose-Heroin-Addict-Ruling-I-Team-Investigation-273213211.html
They killed him.
Personally I think methadone and suboxone maintenance just keeps you sick but again its the one size fits all check box algorithms and protocols killing people. They are subjecting pain patients to the same check box algorithms and protocols killing them too.
Why do we even have doctors if government is there with check box algorithms to make medical decisions ?
Tylenol overdose is the leading cause of acute liver failure in the U.S., leading to 26,000 hospitalizations and nearly 500 deaths annually, according to the Food and Drug Administration.
The new study, led by Dr. Kenneth Simpson of the University of Edinburgh in Scotland, followed 663 hospital patients who had suffered from acetaminophen overdose between 1992 and 2008. Of these patients, 161 had taken a staggered overdose, increasingly escalating their use of painkillers containing acetaminophen to treat common pain like toothache, headache and muscle pain.
Rather interesting that the CDC, which has inserted itself firmly up your doctor’s anus for writing scripts for Valium or hydrocodone, is only too happy to recommend that pain patients take a drug that is more likely to cause an overdose than either of them. https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/09/11/tylenol-far-most-dangerous-drug-ever-made-11711
Educating people and allowing them to make their own medical decisions, ya right. Like I said above this is America were we solve everything with coercion from the state.
Ok sure opiates don’t work cause this moron https://www.theglobeandmail.com/authors/carly-weeks/ at “the globe and mail” says so.
But since un named “studies suggest” lets just have the government with its legal monopoly on coercion and violence to back it up step in over ride doctors and practice medicine with a one size fits all policy for everyone.
I can find 1000s of testimonials online from people who say this is harming them. http://www.google.com/search?q=war+on+pain+patients
Can you find me a single testimonial from a pain patient who was cut off and is grateful ?
“daycares in the U.S. are the exception, not the rule, and tend to be prohibitively expensive. Daycares are rarely subsidized, poorly regulated”
So you are trying to say that feminism/liberalism has been an epic failure to our children only because we just haven’t done it right yet ?
*a loving ‘village’ of caregivers*
It Takes A Village Idiot To Say Kids Belong To State https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/msnbc-host-says-children-belong-to-state/
“The findings also suggest opioids are no better than antidepressants for treating pain, but that they may provide better pain relief than anticonvulsant drugs such as gabapentin and pregabalin.”
I read your link I tell you what next time you have a toothache take anti depressant and tell me how that works for you. “opioids are no better than antidepressants for treating pain” Stupidest thing I ever read.
This is how an article is supposed to be written, with links to sources to back up every claim. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/government-crackdown-opioid-prescriptions-pain-patients_us_5b51ec57e4b0fd5c73c4a42e
This whole idea that government is doing all this because they “care” about addicts is ludicrous anyway. What do they do if the catch you in the state of addiction. Arrest , they go for your driver licence to screw you out if your job, they turn you into an ATM machine with fines and fees probation then they give you record to F up future job opportunities. Believe me the government hates us and hopes we OD or put a gun to our heads.
Pubic opinion of the drug war was getting too low so they cut off the pills to bring in heroin and fentanyl and created this whole thing.
LOL fierce pharma took away the comment section.
I had wrote in the comments to test the brain poison on the Shire CEOs grandchildren first.
Sign up !
Here is the last post right now
“I am curious as to how much profit pharmaceutical companies make off of medications whose patents have expired. Most every medication used to treat ADHD is off-patent now. Is there still a large profit to be made off these medications?”
Here is how I would reply
With patent extension up for grabs, Shire agrees to test Vyvanse in preschoolers https://www.fiercepharma.com/regulatory/patent-extension-up-for-grabs-shire-agrees-to-test-vyvanse-preschoolers
I started this “ADHD” thread and got over 3000 views so far. I put links to MIA in the thread to get us more readers.
“Why does only America drug so many school children ?” Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/education/2995094-why-does-only-america-drug-so.html
I was banned from the forum for speaking out of course but the thread continues. It needs help. Please sign up and post on it, thanks.
I have been saying for years that the number 1 reason 12 step groups help anyone is they combat loneliness. It helps if you know that too so you can avoid some of the nonsense you can find in those groups that causes people to stop going.
SPOCK: What you’re describing was once known in the vernacular as a happiness pill. And you, as a scientist, should know that that’s not possible. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n5ai7
If we ever cure depression we will destroy humanity.
Now we have these http://www.google.com/search?q=weighted+blanket
What about experiencing a high fever ? That often goes with an infection.
Ammon Bundy, the leader of an armed militia that took over an Oregon wildlife preserve to protest federal land policies, said he’s quitting social media after facing backlash over comments he made criticizing President Trump over the migrant caravan.
Bundy told BuzzFeed News last week he decided to log off from his social media accounts for good after receiving enormous backlash from a video he made defending the migrant caravan and attempting to dispel conspiracy theories George Soros was behind the ordeal. https://www.foxnews.com/us/ammon-bundy-logs-off-social-media-after-backlash-from-trump-criticism-over-migrant-caravan
While Bundy said he supports many of Trump’s policies and is grateful for his presidential pardon of the ranchers at the center of the 2016 standoff in Oregon, he disagrees with his depiction of immigrants at the border and his approach to governing.
“I believe President Trump, the best way I could explain it, is that he’s a nationalist, and a nationalist in my view makes the decision that best benefits the nation, not the individual,” Bundy said. “That is not freedom, and that is not what America was built upon.” https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/ammon-bundy-helped-bolster-the-militia-movement-now-hes
How about that, from the liberal news outlet buzzfeed too ! Most people still believe the narrative that the liberty crowd is all about racism.
Someone even flagged my first comment cause they couldn’t handle it, LOL
Police state loving “conservatives” always hijacking the liberty movement when it suits them, throwing them under the bus when it doesn’t.
On the stories about ADHD I often suggest parents try the drugs on themselves before giving them to their small children just to get a clue what they are actually doing to them.
If you are going to give that 70lb 10 year old 10 mg of Ritalin and you weigh 210lbs down 30mg and see how that feels.
I already know it feels just like cocaine but lasts longer for sure.
She compares it to physical illness and claims no one ever shames people with physical illness. Tell that to the people who have chronic pain and can’t get treatment because everyone on opiates is now just considered an addict and should just try harder to get better.
I don’t watch BBC that much but I know American media never stops with the opiate crisis news to drum up support for the failed drug war and mass incarceration but almost never does a story on whats happening to people who suffer chronic pain.
Those people get a hell of alot worse then “pill shamed.”
I had to look up what stimming is, spell check doesn’t even know the word. https://www.friendshipcircle.org/blog/2012/03/22/the-cause-of-stimming-whats-your-stim/ Oh that OK. Most of us do that a little.
Here is an interesting search http://www.google.com/search?q=autism+speaks+judge+rotenberg+center
The guards are mentally ill too.
That Stanford Prison Experiment phenomenon will always happen in any detention setting.
Sit in any group for dual diagnosis. First they start with that ‘psycho-education’ those lies about broken brains and serotonin to push drugs but then when it process time and everyone starts sharing the thing everyone has in common is trauma.
“As expected by the researchers, a sense of belonging in childhood was associated with positive mental health in adulthood, an association that was notably stronger for males than females.”
And alcohol use, in humans and the animal kingdom females prefer aggressive extroverts and alcohol is real good at bringing that out. Maybe we don’t butt heads like rams but shy and quite (a condition often related to trauma) is a liability in males and even the massive NWO agenda to eliminate gender roles won’t change that.
Joseph Biederman the corrupt creator of child bipolar was the recipient of the 1998 NAMI Exemplary Psychiatrist award.
“Risperidone for Adolescent Aggression”
Medical Focus, Winter 1996 http://web.archive.org/web/19961221104126/http://www.nami.org/
It was NAMI and this guy Biderman using lots of drug company money that invented child bipolar to make billions drugging kids.
This is the very best report I know about. https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/miracleindustry/americas-most-admired-lawbreaker/
No one even knows what “the stigma” is. Its always just the undefined “stigma”. How can you stop it without defining what the hell it is.
If anyone reading this was abused in a hospital use consumer complaint and review websites to tell the world what really goes on.
Search the hospital name and post on every review site that comes up.
They usually appear first page search results when people search the hospital name. Often when the first complaint is posted other victims find it and post their stories adding credibility.
This is very damaging especially to private hospitals. Families read these complaints, they learn what really goes on and either avoid letting loved ones get admitted or work to get them out, costing these hell holes alot of money.
Undercover Common Core Vid: Exec Says “I hate kids…it’s all about the money” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8tZGl1SVs0
They should use that insurance datebase to show how its mostly the drugged kids growing up to be addicts.
Psychiatry’s mass poisoning of the population would have been exposed and over a long time ago if mainstream fake news wasn’t paid for by “ask your doctor” TV ads. They can’t run anything negative about their sponsors.
The possible conversation of Eli Lilly CEO Sidney Taurel and his successor John Lechleiter on Taurel’s last day as CEO. Focus’s on Warnings of Cymbalta Withdrawal and the dangers of this horrific drug.
Rick Warren Leads Mental Health Effort After Son’s Suicide- Warren, founder of Saddleback Church and a best-selling author, will team with the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange and the National Alliance on Mental Illness…
Glad your speaking out instead of like that POS Rick Warren “Psychiatry killed my kid, so use it on yours”
Warren told CNN that “the pendulum has swung the other way to human rights so much that many parents and family members cannot get a conservatorship, cannot get a control over somebody.”
Rick Warren is a phony.
“The evil one conceals himself, and comes with his very polite friends, knocking at the door, asking permission, but then moves in and spends time with the man and, little by little, starts giving the orders.” -Pope Francis
I don’t know if all that is appropriate but its the first thing I though of. Too many times after tragedy parents go out with the message “psychiatry never did anything but harm my child but keep using it on yours” Their are several ‘parents of mentally ill children’ forums online and that’s all they do is parrot that.
I am sorry for you loss and thank you for writing here.
They are going to get rid of all that tribal stuff.
“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.” “We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests….The reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of old people, these are the belated objectives …for charting the changes in human behavior.” Brock Chisholm, 1959 Humanist of the Year and former head of World Health Organization, in the February 1946 issue of Psychiatry http://www.spingola.com/new_world_order5.htm ”
“World mental health” Psychiatry is a behavior control system, they have been working to make it global for a long time now.
The World Health Organization (WHO) sponsored major studies comparing how people recover in poor and more developed nations. The people in the poorer developing nations, on average, recovered at a far higher rate. Here is information about those studies. MindFreedom asked Professor Norman Sartorius to briefly summarize these studies, which he was directly involved in leading. The views expressed are those of Dr. Sartorius. http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/mental-health-global/sartorius-on-who
You are better off having a “psychotic” episode in Nigeria than in the U.S. Why? Because third-world countries have better recovery rates for so-called “schizophrenia” than the United States and other industrialized nations that keep their psychiatric patients “maintained” on the drugs. In the United States, one “psychotic” episode will almost always land you in psychiatric wasteland for the rest of your life. It is psychiatry itself that created the “chronicity” in so-called “mental illness”.
In order to combat “cross-cultural mental health disparities” we have to move in and screw up the people in the rest of the world the same way we screwed ourselves with psychiatry.
Lets call it what it is, psycho-pharmaceutical colonialism.
I missed that one. What else can I say I noticed the pattern too. I should try and get this website interested in doing stories on child drugging leading to adult addictions https://www.thefix.com/iron-maidens-bruce-dickinson-talks-mental-health-psychiatric-drugs
Poor people are more likely to seek a prescription just to sell it.
This is typical fake news designed to convince readers that only people severely ‘overwhelmed with hallucinations and voices’ have their rights violated by psychiatry.
The comment section was closed, “Comments are moderated for civility.” My guess is they could not censor out the psychiatric abuse stories as fast as they were piling up.
I thought maybe time expired but the comment section on this story on the same date is still open. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/upshot/why-hospitals-should-let-you-sleep.html
I think eventually with electronic medical records it can be shown that the kids drugged in school are the ones showing up at drug rehabs. I know it but right now no one is officially tracking it.
“”The researchers used Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy scans to examine GABA levels in the medial prefrontal cortex of 44 male ADHD patients. They found evidence that methylphenidate use by children produced long-lasting alterations in GABA neurotransmission in this region of the brain.
“This study focuses on one specific neurotransmitter system: the GABA system,” Solleveld explained. “We report that there are lasting changes in this neurotransmitter system when ADHD patients are treated before the age of 23 years old, i.e. during brain development.”” https://www.psypost.org/2017/07/study-ritalin-use-childhood-cause-long-lasting-alterations-neurotransmission-49241
The GABA system, when that gets screwy nothing feels better the a Xanax or Roxy to level off… besides maybe a drink. The anxiety part of the ADHD drug crash is a GABA system malfunction.
I am not into the whole drug war thing but this bullshit of drugging kids in those indoctrination centers posing as schools is an atrocity. I met enough people in the rehab with drug charges and I tell them to get it on the record that they got drugged in school as child and they never learned any other way to regulate besides doing drugs.
“overdoses and suicides are likely linked. Both may be caused by social shifts in the U.S. that have caused people to become less connected to each other in communities”
Its the rise of the big brother police state control grid, “land of the free” nation that jails more of its people then any other in the history of mankind.
“The only thing that matters to the American police state is that you comply, submit, respect authority and generally obey without question whatever a government official (anyone who wears a government uniform, be it a police officer, social worker, petty bureaucrat or zoning official) tells you to do. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/run-your-life-american-police-state-coming-get-you ”
“There are some data to suggest that that’s led to a sense of hopelessness, which in turn could lead to an increase in rates of suicide and certainly addictive behaviors.”
Its designed to destroy you. Suspending Driver’s Licenses for Drug Offenses and falling behind on child support… Of course, if you still have a job they want to destroy that too by doing the driver licence thing. They hope you keep driving to work trying to pay the snowballing fines and fees so they can catch you again. Its like they want to make people so screwed up they just OD or suicide.
There’s little doubt among researchers that mass incarceration is wreaking havoc on our society https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/almost-addicted/201802/how-mass-incarceration-harms-us-health-in-5-charts
“Men and women who have had contact with the criminal justice system—even if they have never received a jail or prison sentence or a guilty verdict—appear to have a significantly higher rate of suicide than the general population, according to a report posted online in Archives of General Psychiatry.
Most published research on suicide and the criminal justice system focuses on prisoners during their incarceration or soon after release, according to the article. Few studies have investigated the risk of suicide among offenders who are not imprisoned. “Some have suggested that community offenders could be even more vulnerable than prisoners,” the authors wrote.
Suicide was most strongly associated with sentencing to psychiatric treatment https://www.socialworktoday.com/news/dn_022511.shtml ”
Meanwhile on state run fake news everywhere “Why is this happening, why all the ODs suicide and death?”
Medical procedures freak me out and if they offer IV opiates I will take it. I got better things to do then be having anxiety attacks bugging out wile people do medical operations on me cause fake news has declared all opiate consumption is bad.
I am getting older, I hope I stay healthy and stay out of hospitals and don’t need medical procedures but I hope this war on pain treatment goes away before my health ever fails.
For example up to 50 percent of people with diabetes may experience nerve pain. I am not in that 50% but if I get that shit don’t F with me that some political BS says I can’t have the only pain treatment that works, opiates, but instead have to use some toxic alternatives. F off with that.
We don’t have a mainstream media we only got fake news funded by “ask your doctor” for drug ads, MSM would never ever bitch about doping the public with Suboxone. The opiate epidemic is a win win double win for NWO fake news, an excuse to push more drugs and prop up failing support for the drug war – mass incarceration police state.
I went to and then both worked and volunteered at a drug ad alcohol treatment center for years and I think you are more on track with the ADHD drugs being the gateway. I should have went for that in my first comment. Dexedrine is part of my story, that Rx didn’t come into my life until age 29. Long story that reckless prescriber and psychiatry wrecked me.
Anyway by the time I got to the last treatment I had discovered ‘anti psychiatry’ became kind of an activist.
For several years I have been asking the clients were you drugged in school ? Its not terribly difficult to bring up the subject of psych meds and ask that question to people in rehab and the majority say yes. You can do the same thing at AA, AA has become opiates/drugs anonymous especially the young peoples meetings, just start a conversation drinking drugs psych meds and using then ask did they drug you in school and the same thing, the majority say yes. Anyone can can do this survey. Keep it scientific ask the 30 and under people you will see.
I am not buying that left over med’s in the cabinet started this, if they were that addictive there wouldn’t be left over med’s in cabinets cause one taste and the person prescribed them would finish the bottle then bug out and run to the hood to buy dope.
Again Dexedrine is part of my story, Adderal too. When that stuff wears off your left in a place you need a drink or benzos or opiates to quell that crash into restless anxious can’t eat depression. I took that stuff as a fully grown adult and it was a rocketship ride I can’t believe they give that to children. And no I was not ‘abusing’ it. 40mg dexedrine or 60 Adderal a day is pretty standard.
I see this whole opiate/drug epidemic as the result of the child medication generation growing up. The 2 are related. Spend your teens or entire childhood every day up and down high and crash on ADHD drugs it likely becomes the only way these people know to regulate. An opiate feels alot nicer during an ADHD drug crash cause its relieving something.
My generation, X, we had open house keg parties, beer was our drug, pot acid and cocaine was around that’s about all that was on the menu. Heroin was only on TV news in far away yucky places. None of us were drugged in school. Me and my buddies, today we would have been. We did not pay attention.
Now the war on fun police state America, the youth all drugged in school and into pills hiding in basements instead of together partying in public like we did. It has to suck.
“enabler of heroin abuse”
Oh gosh Suboxone, “subs” I know how it works. Its currency out there, complements of the insurance companies. “sell half my script to buy dope then use the rest to come off it” Whole back and forth game they play.
“resuming enforcement of the 1914 Harrison Act?”
There is no putting this toothpaste back in its tube, its happened already, the cartels have moved in and will fill any void created. There were no cartels like we have now in 1914. Cell phones and smugglers, 1000s of container ships with millions of containers to hide stuff in, mail, the internet dark web, tunnels from mexico under the wall… Drones over the wall…
I don’t know, again the Portugal model is the only one shown to work.
And this https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/05/stop-the-war-on-chronic-pain-patients/
I don’t think its worth one person in chronic pain to suffer to save 100 who just refuse quit being dope fiends. Its like the Blackstone’s formulation.
277 views and only 2 comments ? That’s lame, very lame. Its real easy to sign up for this website.
I don’t get it, when I read online news I often check for a comment section before reading it and if it doesn’t have one I look for the story on a site that does.
What fun is reading it without interaction in the comments ?
Tough Love: Abuse of a type particularly gratifying to the abuser, in that it combines the pleasures of sadism with those of self-righteousness.
If they send me home to suffer next time I get a toothache hopefully I can contact a drug dealer and get a few pills.
Its scary, a few months ago more like 8 months ago I was up all night with a toothache. I would get out of bed and it would somewhat go away then I would go back to bed and before I could get to sleep it the pain was back up to a level 7- 8 and I had no other choice then to get up or feel level 9 or 10 total pain distress.
The next morning I made a dentist appointment soon as they opened and got one for the following day. I was very very lucky that the toothache went away by itself cause I could sense in that dentist office I was suspected of being a drug seeker. Everyone is these days.
I still have to get some dental work done, next time I am around the right people get a few roxy 30s just in case. What if I need root canal ? Tooth aches are so awful and the last thing I want is to be reduced to begging if a big one hits. Everyone should have some opiates in their survival kit.
I had my problems with alcohol, big ones. I don’t get the opiate addiction thing. Alcohol is better, it hits the spot chills you out but at the same time you get motivated to go out stir shit up.
All this debate on the opiate crisis is stupid anyway cause we have a working model of what to do.
Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working. Why hasn’t the world copied it? https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it
Portugal, that’s old news we can’t do logic in police state USA but Check this out: Getting paid to get the naltrexone implant (kickbacks) https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/getting-paid-to-get-the-naltexone-implant-kickbacks/ People are starting to troll AA meetings looking for customers.
There has been an update I will put it on this forum thread.
Not clicking I saw that video once and that was enough.
JRC said its residents “could not be effectively treated with other forms of treatment” in other centers that included “massive dosages and combinations of powerful anti-psychotic medications which have dangerous and sometimes permanent side-effects, including death”.
These people frame the argument just like the fake news – you must pick the lesser of 2 evils Democrat vs Republican no other choices.
They should try heroin instead of shocks and neuroleptic poisons.
Opiates are non toxic > http://www.users.on.net/~rmc/drugs.htm
Palliative care, pleasure drugs, why does no one talk about that option ?
Say you has some disease that you knew in the near future was going to make you become disabled like the people at JRC and you were making a living will, would you chose restraints, shocks, nueroletic poison or euphoric sedation with the feel good drugs ?
I guess I am an AA cult member LOL I feel uneasy that I admitted slipping up with the drinking and the edit buttons gone ! I don’t care I need those hangovers every so often to block the idea drinking is a good time.
Anyone ever try this ? https://www.meetup.com/
“people find a sense of community in the polarized tribes forming on the left and the right in America. Essentially, people locate their sense of ‘us’ through the contempt peddled about ‘them’ on the other side of the political spectrum.”
Of course its designed that way, that left vs right thing [CNN Vs FOX news same corporate sponsors] is divide and conquer brainwashing cause our criminal government and its mass incarceration police state knows it would be in deep shit if it ever becomes a true us vs them situation. It almost happened with the protests of 2014-15 till they opened a can of divide and conquer.
“So busy is America managing the predictable conflict amongst themselves, they have neither the time nor the energy to recognize their true tormentors. https://www.sott.net/article/289519-Ferguson-This-isnt-a-revolution-its-the-same-old-divide-and-conquer-technique-used-throughout-history ”
I don’t agree with all the politics of that web page but its the very best I can find on subject divide and conquer.
Writing 10 pages on the stuff that bugs me about Alcoholics Anonymous would be easy but I could travel or move anyplace and get to know dozens of people within a week. I think the main reason AA works for anyone is it gives them a way to escape loneliness now that going out drinking is not an option.
I don’t have a sponsor and I don’t count my sober days, I don’t believe in that. I try and keep it to a minimum but I do drink a few times a year and that’s my business.
It would take too long to write in this comment how to use AA as a support group without getting sucked into the dumbshit. The dumbshit works for some people but I think it also chases an equal number of people away.
They suck, I always drove an old car, it was just more fun like if it wasn’t muddy I take it off road who cares it breaks and I can’t fix it $1000 buy another one… toys. Payments and worries screw that.
I am a good mechanic but they would break down. Find yourself with a dead battery in a parking lot of the LI suburban sprawl good luck finding a jump start unless your a hot female your likely going be standing there with jumper cables and the hood up for a long time but have car problems ANYPLACE else in the country and within minutes you have half a dozen armature mechanics helping out and conversation on whether the 302 was better the the 350…
At the fuel dock LINY people in boats they almost always can’t afford cause its all about show off then they bump the dock get a little scuff and yell at the family for not fending off and get all angry but anyplace else in the country people laugh well that sucks for the dock lets get beer bait and get out of here.
Deep inside I worried it was me cause I couldn’t or more like wouldn’t fit in with phony but once I moved it was myth confirmed, it is unique to north easterners and the pathetic rat race they call life sucks big time. Over 10 years never been back to visit so obviously I am fully convinced leaving the east coast was the key to this success story.
It really is no wonder so many crimes occur there, people look to anti social behavior to survive amongst what poses as social behavior !
Your best move ever was leaving the east coast and the culture of narcissism that lives there. The very epicenter of that cultural sewer is Long Island NY.
Someone online made a web-page why I hate LINY https://geeksjourney.com/2014/03/07/why-i-hate-long-island-with-all-my-heart-and-soul/
Such an incredibly accurate description of the F-tards that live there and it generated 495 Comments.
I ditched the east coast and never look back, F that place. I just feel bad for the people that think east coast behavior is the norm everywhere and never flee to a better life. Double F the east coast !!
“Hi. I am the typical person on Long Island NY and my entire existence revolves around Zilliow and constant worry about what the neighbors [whom I never talk to] think of my lawn !”
Its sick. I know all my neighbors here cause that is the normal thing to do but east coasters will live on the same street for 20 years and will have never talked to the people 3 doors down.
I should make my own hate page for that place.
Chemical Imbalance Lie | Depression | Mad In America
The psychiatric profession finally came clean and confessed on a national media outlet that there is no evidence to support the Serotonin …
I did not know it was a big fat lie when they gave me the first one some poison called Serzone that’s now off the market cause it causes liver damage.
I complained of insomnia to a doctor and was told insomnia is a symptom of depression and all that horse shit about serotonin that goes with it. I did not even think to question it, Google was not even invented yet and I had no idea it was just a marketing scam invented by high IQ sociopaths bent on making billions poisoning people. I didn’t know the world worked that way yet.
Here we go with the cult of Heather Ashton again.
The whole anti depressant industry is built on that lie about low serotonin https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/back-to-basics-the-serotonin-scam-explained/
There is no better way to damage them then to bust their serotonin lie. https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/01/psychiatrys-grand-confession/
The note seven-year old foster child Gabriel Myers left when he suicided by hanging was specific about his hatred of the drug he was forced to take http://www.invisiblechildren.org/tag/gabriel-myers/
!!!! I was supposed to have the 2nd post now it looks like I copied your comment 🙁 I am too slow.
“Additionally, the authors propose that their study establishes a causal association between trauma and psychotic experiences.”
“their study establishes” Their study is old news, we knew this 101 years ago.
The term ‘shell shock’ was coined in 1917 by a Medical Officer called Charles Myers… Doctors soon found that many men suffering the symptoms of shell shock without having even been in the front lines. Read more http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/extra/series-1/shell_shocked.shtml
“There was a guy who was there because he’d smoked marijuana while he was on probation”
Someone needs to be mindful that a little kid is not an Adolescents https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/meditating-1894762_1920-324×235.jpg
F*ck That: An Honest Meditation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92i5m3tV5XY
“Mindless” I would have to say though that the worst thing about treatment can be the other clients. Sometimes is nice to have conversation above the 2nd grade level but the last go around all those people knew was low grade sex humor, street slang and constantly spitting for no reason when standing outside. They spit right where everyone walks and thought nothing of it. I finally learned trying to change the subject to something intellectual was always a backfire with these people and to quit trying. Walk away.
Like by those tables where they smoke, I started making fun of it “bla bla bla ha ha ha bla bla bla bla ha ha ha” hours and hours of complete stupid talk with little laughter outbursts on and on it went. Then the YouTube on the main TV, they would put on nothing but those make you stupid hip hop videos of people dancing in front of fancy cars and mansions narcissistic materialism or those prison documentary videos that’s it.
So I start talking alot about conspiracies and how the “New World Order” is intentionally trying to make the population dumb to make it easier control them and would describe everything those people were about as examples.
Someday I am going to write a book about treatment and I will defiantly include how people think they can go online and pick the ‘right’ treatment center based on the website and the reviews but what they can’t pick out is the other people that will randomly be there with them and IMO the group you go through it with makes more difference then anything else. I would so rather have a bad menu all made in a microwave and a good group of people then a personal chef, fluffy pillows and that group from last time.
“Sleep is the best meditation.” – Dalai Lama
Meanwhile in so many recovery centers for many conditions like ‘dual diagnosis’ they wake everyone up before they are naturally done sleeping for morning meditation. Morning meditation is the most ASS BACKWARD thing I ever heard of.
You are still very tired but WAKE UP !!! now relax and meditate
99% science fiction.
The way we connect capacitors diodes transistors and use binary code is just way too different from how biological systems operate to be “merging” any time soon.
Despite the easing of taboos and the rise of hookup apps, Americans are in the midst of a sex recession. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/
I thought the title was just the usual click bait to something lame with lots of ads but the article is very good.
Huge doses of potent antipsychotics flow into FL state jails for troubled kids https://web.archive.org/web/20180929120210/https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state–regional/huge-doses-potent-antipsychotics-flow-into-state-jails-for-troubled-kids/Q5KorrmHDBZqY2AyPL8ZJJ/
This is a little more recent https://www.publicsource.org/pa-juvenile-offenders-given-psychiatric-drugs-at-high-rates/
And this I hit a dead end http://www.kcur.org/post/case-over-psychotropic-drugs-given-missouri-foster-kids-now-class-action-lawsuit latest I could find its JUL 20, 2018
“All You Need Is Love” The Beatles, released as a non-album single in July 1967.
51 years later we have evolved, the big brother police state control grid now posing as “society” people all reduced to labels and numbers.
I really don’t think the sub species of humans that did this are capable of love. https://www.madinamerica.com/2018/11/starving-help-search-mental-healthcare-ends-tragically-fl/
Film “Erasing Dad” exposes the War on Fathers https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/fathers-day-2017-film-erasing-dad-exposes-the-war-on-fathers/
I searched: psychotherapist burnout
“Therapists burn out? Don’t we have a bottomless reservoir of empathy and patience? Aren’t we masters of healthy relationships, exquisite …”
Police State AmeriKA has more people in jail and prison then any nation in the history of mankind.
I think they are going to get away with this because the unconscionable and callous conduct of the defendants is not illegal. I am sure those soulless automatons did what soulless automatons do best “followed protocol” and I don’t think any law says you have to actually care about anyone.
Mother Faces Down Swat Team & Tank For Refusing to Drug Daughter http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Maryanne+Godboldo
Figured I would add a story where someone beat the governments non stop rampage of family destruction.
We need lots and lots of big government with teams of people to check boxes on forms and a databases !
We should make the government so big that both parents will need to work just to raise the tax money to pay for it, they will be busy but NO PROBLEM ! Just have all our children raised by state institutions !
There is no problem too big in America that can’t be fixed with social workers, psychologists, check box forms, computer files and tracking databases !
I think what they are calling neoliberalism is now referred to as globalism or the globalist agenda.
I had to look up what liberalism even means https://www.britannica.com/topic/liberalism
Holy cow, the term neo liberalism fits all that stuff on TV and internet news isn’t even close to what I read.
“In a liberal democracy there are affairs that do not concern the state. Such affairs may range from the practice of religion to the creation of art and the raising of children by their parents.”
Neo-liberalism – Destroy religion and the family structure then have the children raised by the state.
For the opposite of family-focused recovery Al-Anon offers a brainwashing group for people with alcoholic friends or family members, they push the idea of “detachment with love.” They teach people how to turn their backs on family members and feel good about it at the same time.
People should have went to prison for what they did with olanzapine/Zyprexa
Eli Lilly, Zyprexa, & the Bush Family, by Bruce Levine –
Eli Lilly killed 200,000 people with Zyprexa http://whale.to/a/zyprexa_h.html
Why don’t we start with prosecuting them ??
On the opiate front it makes sense to prosecute dealers for overdose death cause the real goal with the opiate epidemic is to kill off as many people as possible and they know many people will avoid or delay getting help for overdose victims if the cops are going to get involved.
I have to add this to my thread https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/is-the-opiate-epidemic-a-planned-holocaust-to-kill-off-undesirables/
Its not unrestrained capitalism its the government restraining mechanisms themselves the 10,001 rules and regulations that makes it so only big corporations with things like their own legal and ‘human resources’ departments can survive. This gives them an advantage to monopolize and basically behave badly because the government crushes competition for them.
An example of unrestrained capitalism would be a farmers market in Zimbabwe. In the US we have restrained capitalism to the point a child can’t even open a lemonade stand without the government psychos stomping on it.
May 29, 2018 – Denver police shut down a lemonade stand put on by a group of brothers over a permitting issue. https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/05/29/lemonade-stand-shut-down/https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/05/29/lemonade-stand-shut-down/
The lefts answer to everything : Use state power that’s always backed by threats of violence to control more and more things.
There is no way to rule innocent men so they just criminalize more and more activities, put away them lemons you crooks !
French children don’t need to be drugged to control their behavior. In the United States, at least 9 percent of school-aged children get drugged in school after being accused of ADHD http://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/suffer-the-children/201203/why-french-kids-dont-have-adhd
Shoulden’t we just copy France ? The French holistic, psychosocial approach also allows for considering nutritional causes for ADHD-type symptoms—specifically the fact that the behavior of some children is worsened after eating foods with artificial colors, certain preservatives, and/or allergens.
I have been following the latest in censorship and as a Youtube commenter put it critics of government abuse of power the ‘police state’ are the real targets. https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/stop-internet-censorship-writetrump-com I included a big list of censored alternative news sites too.
Its not left or right politics like fake news would like you to believe, the websites getting censored are the ones against abuse of power. Mike Adams Natural News a huge critic of the psychiatric drugging of children they pulled out all the stops to put him down the memory hole.
Psychiatry is a favorite tool of oppression, they will protect it.
‘A Model Consent Form for Psychiatric Drug Treatment’ is reprinted with permission from MIA Blogger David Cohen, PhD and David Jacobs, PhD. For original and reprint publication info, please see the bottom of this post in the link https://www.madinamerica.com/mia-manual/model-consent-form-psychiatric-drug-treatment/
For a long time my posts on informed consent psychiatry that included whats on the MIA link above showed up first page search results. Now the search algorithms favor the ‘mainstream’ and bury the truth just like with news.
They still don’t warn people about ‘side’ effects but I know in alcohol/addiction ‘dual diagnosis’ treatment unlike 10-15 years ago the word is mostly out that psych meds are a screw over. They still try them but people are more careful and much less trusting.
Nobody preys on the stupid quite like the supplement industry.
One of their products that is absolutely atrocious is that garbage they market as “pre workout” The tingling feeling (similar to pins and needles) you may experience when having a pre workout supplement is often the effects of beta-alanine at work. This tingling feeling is know as acute paresthesia. The feeling is most likely caused because of the effect beta-alanine has on your central nervous system.
I watch the 20 somethings consume this crap and then they watch me twice their age thin body type pile on the same weights they do. WTF need a stimulant “pre workout” have some black coffee, when you are done eat some REAL FOOD. All that protien powder is is food dryied out then you put water in it. Its stupid. Their are some epic rants on Youtube from top bodybuilders about that one.
The mother of all supplement scams has to be Prevagen, the Bullshit Memory Drug. Don’t let your parents and grand parents buy this !!!
There was no way out dude, people won’t vote 3rd party, it was mother of mass incarceration Hillary Clinton (1994 Crime Bill) or Copsucker Donald Trump. April 25, 2016 at 2:47 pm https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/hillary-clinton-calls-for-more-drug-courts/
That was Hillary Clintons plan have the police state practice medicine without a licence with trap you in the system drug courts. In the thread I put a copy of the suicide note left by a woman who committed suicide after being subjected to this.
336 views and only 4 comments. That’s lame people.
You know I am going to double post it, I am the angry white guy that the death by despair grim reaper almost took out. Missed me bi-atch.
I worked/volunteered at a drug and and alcohol treatment center for years I know the demographic and knew dozens of people who have passed away suicide and overdose.
Maybe this is arrogant but IMO most of the clients don’t have the intelligence to full on hate the system and blame alcohol and addiction for ALL their troubles in life. The system digs you a hole and hopes you bury yourself in it, if you made a mistake usually victimless crime with us they take your job opportunities. They take your children and screw them up worse then then parents addict behavior in most cases. Maybe doing addiction in front of the children is not stellar behavior but that CPS system is beyond out of control. They constantly drive women to suicide by despair and overdose.
We try and give the guys tools to stay sober but basically if you have the so called ADHD mental issues oh ya everyone talks the grand “go back to school” be a success but the system is so against you. Half of them on probation one slip one false positive the system eats them alive if they don’t kill themselves using since why not “I relapsed and am getting screwed anyway”. They are going to put me in jail now anyway, where is the booze meth and heroin ??? Making it is a full time entry level job to hand all your earnings to a landlord, the car insurance and criminal injustice industry.
I hate to paint such a grim picture, people can recover and make it but the title here is death by despair and I have seen ALOT of it, I know how it operates.
I think this article nails it perfectly with part about self-sufficiency. We now live under the big brother police state and property tax control grid, those bastards won’t let you just survive.
Start with the police state, when the protest broke out a few years ago the police state big brother controlled TV news quickly made it a racial issue. Being a white guy I don’t know what driving wile black is like but driving wile poor in America they will screw you to the wall just as fast. That’s how they put in the knife and then turn it, take the licence so you can’t get to work. They hope you drive anyway, that pride we have about self-sufficiency, they hope you drive anyway so they can catch you and keep you screwed up in the system collecting payments destroying you finances….
The big brother part, if you made a mistake 20 years ago, that cocaine you got caught with on the ride home from the bachelor party put in on that job application cause we are the system we never forgive we never forget death of despair we don’t really care.
Property tax, home “ownership” what an effing joke almost as funny as the “American dream” unless your dream is you and your wife working full time just so the tax parasites can take half and your kids get raised in some day care institution.
The TV fake news never stops with the messages that any white guy that hates the government and talks that liberty stuff is a low IQ racist backwards hillbilly, it sucks they have been so successful at painting that phony picture.
Again spot on with this article pointing out the self-sufficiency aspect.
I write on here and other sites all the time that parents should should adjust for body weight and try their child’s ADHD and other psychiatry drugs on themselves first so they get a small clue what they are doing to their kids.
I posted a link to this story https://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic210460.html That’s how you spread the truth about Akathisia. Help make psychiatry’s dirty secret a household word. Post links.
I just got this at least 100 views over the next few weeks, if the other 670 people that read this before me posted a link worth 100 views…
I got diabetes from psychiatric poison. Residual Akathisia absolutely. Sometimes people interpret my moving as nervousness but that’s not what it is.
It would almost be fun to put some Zyprexa in one of these quacks food or beverage so they could spend a day in Akathisia. Death has been reported after an acute overdose of 450 mg, but also survival after an acute overdose of 2000 mg. I think it would be “safe” to dose them with 100 mg.
You may be thinking what a horrible comment and maybe I need some psychiatric ‘help’ but what the hell I was told it was perfectly safe for insomnia and anxiety. The false information I was given before taking it makes what was done to me a poisoning. Martin Luther King famously said “An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind” I disagree, I think at worst it only doubles the number of eyes put out. I think it would make going around hurting peoples eyes less appealing to those so inclined if they think they might get hurt back.
Would I poison that guy who gave me Zyprexa if I was given immunity from prosecution ? I don’t know but those psychos at Eli Lilly that lied and pushed that stuff I would have them locked up and fed nothing but food laced with 20 mg of Zyprexa till the day they were dead.
They poisoned millions of people worldwide and no one went to prison for that. Not even an arrest. I read the crime made them 65 billion in profit but only a 1.4 billion dollar fine for their criminal behavior.
I am just going to fall back on old school anti-psychiatry for my comment. Psychiatry has always been behavior control system, that is its core function. You can put lipstick on pig but its still a pig.
Here it is Steve, did not take me long.
“Pete still feels angry at the legal system that completely removed his daughter’s access to her children, and laws that — in his opinion — fail to adequately punish dealers.”
“That combination of factors — especially the loss of her daughters, whom she loved dearly — took the fight out of Alicia.
“I think she just gave up,” Hope said.
Been around this long enough to know that wicked system pushed this woman over the edge.
That’s what they do, they give people what we call in recovery the “F its” well F it I will never crawl out of this hole, all these problems the system piled on, I am getting high so I just don’t feel it for a wile.
Again if I was an evil psychopath and wanted to covertly create a suicide and overdose epidemic to rid society of burdens I could not think of a better plan then what the government has in place already. I would certainly have them add family support structures as loved ones mourn to create the illusion I cared and to control the narrative and make headlines blaming “social stigma” for my planned holocaust.
I would also have the big tech companies shut down 1000s popular alternative news sites on both the left and right side of politics that call out the system for what it is…
Its so evil,
For people struggling with addiction using drugs to deal with anxiety and problems getting caught being sick getting caught up in the injustice system multiplying there anxieties and problems by 100 causing the urge to use drugs to multiply along with it.
I could sell the conspiracy theory that “they” are just trying to kill off all the addicted people at this point, they didn’t make mistakes miscalculate and accidentally make the problem worse and worse pushing pill users to heroin then bringing in fentanyl.
Think about it, if you deliberately wanted to make the problem worse could you do anything different to do a better job then the government has done ?
Since it decriminalized all drugs in 2001, Portugal has seen dramatic drops in overdoses, HIV infection and drug-related crime Read More https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it
“Portugal’s remarkable recovery, and the fact that it has held steady through several changes in government – including conservative leaders who would have preferred to return to the US-style war on drugs – could not have happened without an enormous cultural shift, and a change in how the country viewed drugs, addiction – and itself.”
“Back when I was a teenager in the 1990s, I was feeling suicidal due to bullying. The world seems to want to all of a sudden come to the rescue of a person once they hear “the s word.” I was flat out lied to by my primary care physician. I was given bloodwork and then I was told I had a chemical imbalance.”
“Fast forward 20+ years to today and I’ve been given over 40 different brain-disabling psychiatric medications in almost every major category”
Read more: Psychiatry Destroyed My Life
Posted by Zant808 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:34 am
I found it ! this article reminds me of the Eli Lilly tactic of Blame the patient when their drugs cause “diet-associated inflammation” LOL
Lilly PowerPoint: “Execute the S#!t Out of Them”; a Photo Gallery of Drug Rep Sales Advice https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lilly-powerpoint-execute-the-038-out-of-them-a-photo-gallery-of-dodgy-drug-sales-advice/
“higher intakes of obesogenic nutrients and more inflammatory diets than the general population.”
Ya right, just look at the ‘general population’, most of them a MAJORITY steady diet of Mc Donalds and Seven Eleven Big Gulps And Hot dogs.
All this pill talk please GET EXERCISE !
Its such generic advice but it works. I kick ass in the gym, I just do what feels right I never count sets or reps or take any supplements. I sort of split it up upper body one day legs the next but again I can just feel what I have to do. And I never bother with gym outfits I always go in ‘street cloths’ my muscles don’t give a crap if I do bench press in jeans or if I changed into some stupid baggy NIKE shorts. My gym is cool with flip flops they don’t care.
If you watch the people in the gym that are strong and in good shape its not so much their routine or the one rip off supplement they picked out of 1000 choices on the shelves at GNC its that they push harder. Alot of advice that rhymes is complete bull but ‘no pain no gain’ is true. Watch them, they push out a few more reps before quitting. That’s the only difference.
Anyway it doesn’t matter what you do for exercise, cardio or weight lifting riding a bike or climbing a tree the effect on so called mental health is the same. Less anxiety depression better mood and better sleep.
I believe most people don’t exercise because there is so much BS advice from the diet and fitness industry that they get overwhelmed and think unless they “do it right” they wont benefit and that’s my rant on that.
A Christmas Story – Ralphie Beats Up Bully https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvijyBIgazE
That’s how we did it when the world was sane. That movie was 1983.
No doubt that in today’s NWO indoctrination centers posing as schools a kid like Ralphie would get an head evaluation then labelled with something and put on drugs. About 9,000,000 children in America are on psychiatric drugs.
Where is the Journal of Child and Family Studies study on the long term outcome of children drugged in school ??
Perhaps the scariest problem of all is that, when young people are hooked on ADHD medications and tolerance goes up or the supply runs out, they’re rapidly turning to substitutes – like crystal meth.
There has been little research into this issue.
It may be true but acquiring them from alternative sources is so easy I don’t think any doctor could have cut him off.
At the time of his death Wednesday night, he had built a net worth of $60 million. If he wanted pills he gets pills.
Can we move on ? Its 2018, the 1990s were the ‘decade of the brain’.
The Decade of the Brain was a designation for 1990–1999 by U.S. president George H. W. Bush as part of a larger effort involving the Library of Congress and the National Institute of Mental Health of the National Institutes of Health “to enhance public awareness of the benefits to be derived from brain research”
Heros have different souls.
The clip art for this article is appropriate. The world wide medical mafia doesn’t play. And did they find Jamal Khashoggi’s body yet? Bet that dude was going to blow the whistle on Sept 11.
And cats like it. I opened that Valerian root bottle and the cat would come running.
And why am I the_cat ? I created the screen name copy_cat for like truth in advertising cause I wanted to fight back and I realized the most effective way I could do it was copy pasting quotes links to anti psychiatry and the truth about psychiatry anywhere and everywhere online people would read it click on it. I was copying so much I was was a copy cat. Everything that needed to be written already was it just needed to be spread.
So many screen names kicked off censored off every mental health “support” forums, new IP proxies… Sign up again and and again post some more.
They tried hard to keep the truth out of those forums when I started back in 2011. Lots of people were doing it. We overwhelmed them.
You Tube video comments, any text box online paste and post fast and move to the next one. Get the links out.
Like that Alex Jones guy says this is an information war. Psychiatry is lies people just need to know.
I quit that seroquel too. That was the last one. Actually no seroquel to Vistaril to melotonin to falling asleep natural again. I wasn’t in that deep with the seroquel though, it only took 25mg for a knockout and I would usually take only half that by biting tablet in half.
I have a long story, including benzos ADHD amphetamines, that doctor had me full addict swiping my credit card for more scripts then inflicts zyprexa poisoning but in the end the final path out, seroquel to Vistaril to melotonin to falling asleep natural again. And there is no reason not to keep a stash of Vistaril or melotonin to get sleep if wicked insomnia strikes.
I am no angel I will do a benzo or an adderal for recreation but never again full on “doctors orders” daily dosing of that addictive S. I was a dumb ass I no idea what hell I was getting into when I stepped in that guys office.
I think you have ADD, how did those high powered Amphetamines I just prescribed make you feel ??? Wish I never met that SOB. There was no pill scene back then like now warnings all over the news. I did not know what I was getting into.
I never complained of “ADD” I didn’t even know what the hell that was. Never had an adderal or ritalin in my life. My life was about my friends , my girlfriend, dirtbike riding, boats 4x4s parties and beer. I no knowledge of or interest in psychiatric bullshit. I just wanted a pill to fall asleep early and met that quack that ruined a decade of my life.
“Insomnia is a sympotom of depression” the first poison I got was an anti depressant now off the market called Serzone, it causes liver damage. My serotonin was low, ya I fell for there damn scam.
2 years later I see the inside of a F psych ward, and like most none of us were there until AFTER getting drugged by these quacks. Who then give you more pills for the damage they inflicted in the first place.
The only thing in common with Valerian root and Valium are the first 3 letters.
Valproic acid was first synthesized in 1882 by Beverly S. Burton as an analogue of valeric acid, found naturally in valerian. … Valproic acid has also been used for migraine prophylaxis and bipolar disorder.
All I can advise for sleep is the melotonin, not having a clock in your living space as a constant reminder of “oh no its getting late” and lowering the lights hours before intended sleep time.
My ability to sleep natural was totally fried from psychiatric drug exposure, it took a long time but I did recover from it. I was a Zyprexa victim, up until the lawsuits began 2007 they were big time pushing that diabolical soul crushing insidious brain poison hard off label for insomnia and anxiety. It took 8 mg atavan a day just to stay out of anxiety attacks and to sleep coming off that evil S . Then I had benzo habit to kick.
Surviving psychiatry is no joke. IMO that sleep thing is the hardest part.
I know you didn’t ask me but I want to pass along what I learned. I decided in my recovery I don’t play the sleep time – wake time game anymore. When I am tired I sleep when I feel I had enough sleep I get up. I simply never make any commitments that require an early wake up (Before Noon). I missed out on one job I would have really enjoyed but I had to be up at 6 am and it was looking for a sleep pill that kicked off my entire psychiatric nightmare. No way was I taking that job then doing the countdown math every night. Its 11 pm If I fall asleep now I get 7 hours sleep before I have to get up at 6 am… Now its 12 am if I sleep right now I can get 6… Now its 1 am I am a little tired I hope I sleep and at least get 5 hours… Insomnia math sucks.
You may find this interesting. Busting the 8-Hour Sleep Myth: https://www.livescience.com/12891-natural-sleep.html
Don’t write on these consumer complaint sites when angry, there is no go back and edit button if you write something stupid or leave out something important.
And don’t forget to hit them with http://www.yelp.com too. Those reviews you can edit.
On survivor activism, learn this !
If you survived an abusive inpatient psych facility be sure to write what they did to you on every review site you can find AND use the consumer complaint sites.
Whats interesting is when you do this other victims find the complaints when they search the name of the facility and then write what happened to them adding more and more credibility to the original testimonial.
I know that alot of survivors leave psychiatric hellholes with that nauseating sense of injustice getting abused and no way get back at them.Think about the fact that every time your testimonial leads to the facility loosing a costumer it cost them thousands of dollars in lost revenue so you certainly have hurt them back. You may not feel it when you press the post button but the facility does.
This also helps the survivor movement as a whole when what goes on behind the locked doors of these atrocities posing as help is posted for the world to see.
I am asking myself that too. There is this on found on the forums here.
“You are free to post anything to http://www.PsychVictims.com. It’s a platform for YOU to add anything! No longer do ‘professionals’ get priority, now YOU get priority!”
Its become a habit to comment here but maybe I should donate my time to shaping and adding to this.
Seems to me the cops can’t come if they don’t know where you live so the first step would be to get a PO box and move and NEVER tell the system where you stay again. I don’t believe they have the resources to put any effort into finding you.
Data shows approximately 2 million warrants are active on any given day. A huge number of people just ditch out on the system, its totally overwhelmed, but again how could they even issue a warrant when there is no law against so called mental illness and again they call it “elope” not escape.
I seemed to have a little better luck with the search words: failure to comply with assisted outpatient treatment “contempt of court”. The results I read said contempt of court is rarely used and only in a few states.
So again my limited research leads me to believe that moving and not telling the system where you went is all it takes to escape this AOT tyrannical atrocity. And as a preventive measure never tell them where you stay in the first place. For government paperwork like driver licences and the police state big brother physical address requirements that go with it, just use a homeless shelters address far from your actual location. There is no law against homelessness but its a real pain to go without a physical address like for example people who retire sell the house and buy a fancy motor home and travel, they often post about the address problem.
‘Yet child drugging in school remains legal in all states, despite evidence that it harms kids — not only physically and mentally, but in how they perform at school and how they interact with other children.’”
How about that ?
“Your pediatrician will determine whether your child has ADHD using standard guidelines developed by the American Academy of Pediatrics. These diagnosis guidelines are specifically for children 4 to 18 years of age. For elementary school–aged children (6–11 years of age), the primary care clinician should prescribe US Food and Drug Administration–approved medications for ADHD http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/128/5/1007.full“
How do they enforce Assisted Outpatient Treatment ? https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/how-do-they-enforce-assisted-outpatient-treatment-aot-forced-drugging-orders/
They still call escaping a locked hospital “elopement” for legal reasons wouldn’t ditching AOT be the same thing ? I have to ask here as my web searches have turned up nothing.
I think I understand what that means, that’s where the government makes so many rules and regulations so that only big corporations with a legal department and other resources can survive ?
They also do things like have the police go around and bust kids for selling lemonade without a permit, cutting grass shoveling snow ect.
Its all a bit to complex for me, unnecessarily complex as I it don’t think it much matters if the government is stomping you with a lefty boot or a righty boot you are still getting stomped on.
“The authors cite therapy approaches that focus on the role of institutions and systems in creating psychological distress”
Institutions and systems are doing a great job in creating psychological distress, the computerized big brother police state control grid built up in the last 30 years has brought us the epidemic of “Deaths Of Despair” https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-deaths-of-despair-may-be-a-warning-sign-for-america-moving-upstream-1519743601
You can web search “Deaths Of Despair” and get all the left vs right political arguments and “solutions” but the bottom line is the big brother police state control grid put in place has added so much BS to peoples lives its stolen the joy of living from millions.
IMO any therapy approaches that call out the system as the source of peoples pain would be an improvement.
MIA shadow bans.
“The danger hidden in a system of searching for identity externally is that after someone obtains a certain identity through others, they will manipulate him without him being aware…through the very identity they have given him. This is why they give him the very identity…” ~ Dimitri Halley
“It is, of course, a false identity. They identify as a person with an allegedly broken brain, a person who will never recover, a person who has nothing much to look forward to, and they do this to the extent that even one’s birthday becomes a hopelessly tragic “mental illness” fest. This indulgence in the broken identity will garner much support and reinforcement from others who’ve also internalized the broken identity, and together a cohesive and self-perpetuating community organizes within the pits.”
I need to go save this URL on my archive thread so we don’t loose it but check it out, its a heavy hitter.
“As child and adolescent psychiatrists, we recognize that parental support is an essential and proven factor for protecting children and helping children recover from the negative impacts of stress and trauma.”
Are you kidding me ??? Child psychiatry kidnaps children from there parents LABELS AND DRUGS THEM… http://healthimpactnews.com/tag/medical-kidnap/
WHAT ABOUT AMERICAN KIDS ????
Lets do some Goggle searches here to see how child psychiatry “protects” children. And helping them “recover” what a joke http://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+american+children+on+psychiatric+drugs
Child psychiatry is an atrocity.
Ya it sucks, lots of messy places in the world. The USA is about 5% of the worlds landmass and 5% of the worlds population. We can’t just invite in everyone in the world who doesn’t like what’s going on where they live now.
Mexico has offered temporary identification papers and jobs to migrants who register for asylum in the country…
Caravan members “Thanks but Mexico sucks so we are going to the US”
If anti depressants ever did work they would destroy humanity because if people were happy for no reason they would just quit doing anything and things would fall apart but no one would be depressed about things falling apart so they wouldn’t do anything about it. Why build, create or pursue anything just take my pill and feel fine…
I just flat quit Celexa and nothing much happened but for some reason I decided to take one like 3 weeks later and that night I had that restless movement thing come back that I had wile I was on it but didn’t notice it go away but I certainly noticed it come back. Last SSRI pill I ever took.
Remeron I quit at the same time as benzos so that withdrawal got mixed up in that nightmare but I never should have been given depression pills. Who the heck could answer those pill company depression questionnaires 20 years ago and NOT come up positive as depressed ?
I feel like a dumb ass now for taking them but it sounded legit “boost my serotonin” feel good why not ? Lots of reasons why not. that the whole serotonin thing was a marketing scam. How was I to know that 20 years ago ?
That first poison Serzone they gave me taken off the market causing liver damage… That should have been a clue.
You wrote this so well I get it.
I think this might be whats going on with a friend of mine. When she says “they are trying to ruin my life” but won’t tell me who they are. There is other stuff I am not writing out as I try to be loyal to freinds and even though this is anonymous screen name combined with an almost zero chance she would be reading this website betrayal is betrayal as she highly values privacy.
How the heck do you ask someone if they are hearing voices ?
Anyway again good job explaining what this is like, never heard voices but I definatly got a better understanding.
And my own experience with ‘other worlds’ pergatory-hell. I don’t think it had much to do with my existing cultural beliefs, I think people had these experiences first and they were the basis of most cultural beliefs.
But they said it was safe to start drugging kids with amphetamines at a young age !!
Anyway its no coincidence that 30 years after they started mass drugging in schools we now have mass addiction and mass overdoses. The medication generations have grow up.
Psychiatry provides the youth with “gateway drugs.”
It would really only take one really popular movie or maybe even music lyrics to portray smart phones as un cool and knock them things down a few notches.
Sucks that people arent into conspiracies anymore like they were cause this one is true they are conspiring to screw with everyone’s heads with those damn phones.
Of course if any one of us recklessly drove through high water and drowned some people we would immediately be charged a crime like criminally negligent homicide.
But of course always different rules for them, they get a paid vacation then as usual get away with murder. Just watch. Typical low IQ authoriatians, they don’t even think the laws of physics apply to them and think vans are a match for running water.
“Public Citizen Health Research Group” Working hard to promote widespread forced psychiatric drugging https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/public-citizen-forced-drugging-assisted-outpatient-treatment-widespread/ Best friends with the Treatment Advocacy Center.
Public Citizen bunch of nanny state busybodies, “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive…. Its like C.S. Lewis wrote that one just for them.
“Energy Drinks: A Classic Example of a Harmful, Unregulated Product” https://www.citizen.org/our-work/health-and-safety/energy-drinks-classic-example-harmful-unregulated-product
GO AWAY “PUBLIC CITIZEN” Nanny state Swollen hemorrhoids !
Remember, these people, like all tyrants, have nothing but contempt for the average person and their freedom. They are not out there to help you and I. It is time to go on the offensive and show what contempt that we have for them. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/public-citizen/
Nothing wrong with this new Opiate. Glad the the FDA approved it so like if some poor soul steps on a landmine get can get the strongest pain relief known ASAP. Lot of things that really hurt out on the battlefield.
The slowball is when the cause and result start to amplify each other so it doesnt really matter what came first.
What is “brain hacking”? Tech insiders on why you should care https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brain-hacking-tech-insiders-60-minutes/
“‘We have to take an honest look at ourselves as a society and as a culture and say what is it about us that foments this kind of stuff”
The establishment, the big brother police state control gtid itself forments this stuff. They are the ones who benifit from it. So to awnser the question “what is it about us that foments this kind of stuff?” The awnser is our overall stupidity forments this stuff because people are to stupid to recognize divide and conquer.
Before protests began breaking out in Ferguson, Missouri, and even after the first of the protests in August, many across America’s polarized “left/right” paradigm began to find a common ground, shocked at the level of militarization the police had undergone and the heavy-handed response they exercised amid protests. Even among the generally pro-police and military “right,” there was outrage over what was finally recognized as a growing and quite menacing “police state” in America.
Politicians, the corporate media, and security agencies set off to work, dividing America’s public down very predictable lines. Convenient “revelations” that the police were connected with the ultra-racist Ku Klux Klan, coupled with growing choruses across the [phony fox news] right to circle the wagons in support of the militarized police attempted to place those who converged on this common ground back into their assigned places on the “right” and “left” of America’s ultimately authoritarian controlled political order.
Regardless of its success, attempts to intentionally provoke violence, confusion, and division on both sides is an attempt by the establishment to keep people divided and weak while maintaining their position of primacy over the country and the expansive “international order” it imposes globally. So busy is America managing the predictable conflict amongst themselves, they have neither the time nor the energy to recognize their true tormentors.
I took the above paragraphs from here https://www.sott.net/article/289519-Ferguson-This-isnt-a-revolution-its-the-same-old-divide-and-conquer-technique-used-throughout-history
That webpage explains it well but the author IMO goes to far with the Wall Street stuff. BUT look how they play their same stupid repeditive advertizments on both CNN and controlled opposition Fox News. Finance both “sides” thats how divide and conquer is done.
“It is an indictment of American culture and society that anyone finds relief by picking up a rifle and driving to a synagogue. To fight hate, we need to change our culture and society.”
No way dude, it is an indictment of the “new world order” and there constant divide and conquer brainwahing tactics that anyone feels the need to pick up a rifle and drive to a synagogue. Or baseball field shooting steve scalise…
At the same time the company improperly encouraged off-label uses, it willfully downplayed voiced physician concern and study findings indicating side effects of weight gain and diabetes in patients receiving olanzapine (Zyprexa) therapy for approved use. As a whistleblower summed, “If you torture the data long enough, it’ll tell you anything you want to hear.” https://shadowproof.com/2013/12/18/over-easy-a-small-price-to-pay-for-the-molecule/
This practice is, to use Eli Lilly’s own internal email communication-come-court-document, “a small price to pay for the molecule.” http://web.archive.org/web/20120122013020/http://www.furiousseasons.com/zyprexa%20documents/ZY100378062.pdf
Its OK to be white.
That headline makes no sense. If people were “seeking” confinement in a mental hospital prisons they would line up at the door voluntarily and they wouldn’t need transport cage vans at all.
Why do they always have to mislead like that ?
I just searched the term electroconvulsive therapy on both Goggle and Bing . I looked at the first 8 pages of Google results and not a single web page protesting ECT was in the results.
If now is the time to strike the place to strike is web search results to get the word out.
This business of injecting people with Ketamine and anti psychotics is a direct result of all the benzo bashing as they are looking for an alternative to those “evil benzodiazepines” that work better on ‘severe’ agitation then any other drugs in widespread use.
“Fifty acutely anxious and\or agitated patients requiring immediate sedation were treated with intravenous lorazepam. Most patients responded to a dose of 5 to 10 mg. (average 7.5 mg.), and the sedative-hypnotic effect became apparent within 5 minutes of injection, except in severe cases. In these patients, dosage was increased to 15 to 20 mg., and even to 30 to 40 mg. in those with delirium tremens, who proved difficult to treat with lorazepam alone. Side-effects were minimal and not troublesome, and there was no evidence of respiratory depression or cardiovascular effects, even in the elderly patients treated. Local tolerance of the injection was very good. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1185/03007997509113687“
“In July, Public Citizen and 64 bioethicists, physicians, and other scholars submitted a complaint about two of Hennepin’s ketamine studies to the FDA and HHS’s Office of Human Research Protections. In August, FDA sent inspectors to the hospital.”
“Public Citizen” is a political group that wants “widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” The is them working with The Treatment Advocacy Center promoting forced drugging. https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/2330.pdf Page 12.
Human rights and informed consent are exactly not on the top of this groups priority list.
What no one ever talks about “part 2” of the benzo nightmare where after blaming the victim for “abusing” them they get the next chemical nightmare, getting put on the “non addictive” SSRIs and mood remover pills.
I guarantee this online censorship this so called war on hate speech will end up just like the war on drugs and will only make the problem worse. I am not that smart, they know it too. They want the problem to get worse.
Seems that many people in the autistic community don’t care for “autism speaks” http://www.google.com/search?q=boycott+autism+speaks
The Manufacture of Madness: A Comparative Study of the Inquisition and the Mental Health Movement. https://www.scribd.com/doc/142558430/The-Manufacture-of-Madness-3-1-Scrn
During the Nazi era, for the first time in history, psychiatrists sought to systematically exterminate their patients. It has been acknowledged that the medical profession was profoundly involved in crimes against humanity during this period, with various publications describing this malevolent period of medical history. It is less known, however, that psychiatrists were among the worst transgressors. At each stage of the descent of the profession into the depths of criminal and genocidal clinical practice lay a series of unethical decisions and immoral professional judgments. Furthermore, very little has been published on lessons that may be learned from this dark period in the history of psychiatry and on ethical principles that may be extrapolated for the future practice of clinical and research psychiatry and for inclusion in educational programs. This paper reviews the role of psychiatrists in the Nazi era and analyzes the underlying misconceptions that led to the aberrant behavior. Finally, some recommendations for inclusion of the study of this period in ethics training are presented …
The professional status of psychiatrists did not place any obstacle to their participation in Nazi crimes, and many demonstrated a profound commitment to the atrocities. Psychiatrists were instrumental in instituting a system of identifying, notifying, transporting, and killing hundreds of thousands of mentally ill and “racially and cognitively compromised” individuals in settings ranging from centralized psychiatric hospitals to prisons and death camps. Their role was central and critical to the success of Nazi policy, plans, and principles. …
Read more https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1828151/
What our society suffers from is a bad case of what might be called Submissive Compliant Disorder, SCD. Read more http://www.dansanchez.me/feed/the-virtue-of-defiance
“but also stole trillions of dollars in homes from decent American families” http://www.google.com/search?q=foreclosure+vandalism
Some people fought back. Go ahead take whats left of the house. Flushing concrete mix down the toilet LOL
a shift from the biomedical approach which asks: “What’s wrong with you?” to a trauma-informed stance which asks: “What’s happened to you?” …
Why don’t they take one more step by asking “How can we help you?” ?
These hospitals claim their intended goal is to stabilize people and send them on their way so why do they continue to circumvent a patients right to undisturbed rest with the early morning blood pressure checks ?
Lack of sleep is the common denominator amongst almost everyone who enters inpatient psychiatry, why in the world would you rudely wake up “manic” and “psychotic” people who are finally getting the sleep they need stabilize and recover why would you rudely have the goons come in an wake them up early in the morning when they are finally sleeping soundly ?
“If you get up early at night you will be tired” Says the clueless simpleton morons. It doesn’t work that way, the stress of sleep disruption and artificial and rude wake up only prolongs the mania and psychosis by exacerbating the anxiety and insomnia that causes it. As Illogical as it sounds the stress of sleep deprivation makes insomnia worse as you become ‘to tired to rest’. That’s how the snowballing bad feedback loop that causes what they call mania works.
That BS they do waking everyone up is like the best proof they don’t know a damn thing about the brain, mind and mental illnesses. Or maybe just don’t care as long as the money making wheels of their institution keep turning.
“What’s happened to you?” I had a total nervous breakdown over ______ and haven’t slept in days. “How can we help you?” Leave me the hell alone in the morning with your goons and blood pressure checks designed intentionally to circumvent a patients right to undisturbed rest because until I get some long undisturbed REM sleep my mind wont work right.
How is that from a survivor prospective ?
To reduce toxic stress why don’t we start designing schools to look like schools again instead of modelling them after prisons ?
“Microcosms of the police state, America’s public schools contain almost every aspect of the militarized, intolerant, senseless, overcriminalized, legalistic, surveillance-riddled, totalitarian landscape that plagues those of us on the “outside.” – The Free Thought Project
http://www.google.com/search?q=schools+designed+like+prisons About 29,400,000 results (0.25 seconds)
“Conservative governments have failed people with mental health difficulties at every conceivable turn.” The left works on destroying the family unit then complains when people are alone sleeping in the street with no support and blames it ALL on the OTHER “team” LOL
Please stop with the incredibly flawed liberal and conservative ideologies red team blue team bullshit and just talk about problem and solution.
“I’ve actually tried very hard to blend in with the crowd, just as a survival attempt at this point, but it makes me miserable.”
I have trouble with this too, what happens to me is I get lonely then find myself around moron level people incapable of any conversation besides maybe sex humor, TV sports and using the F word in every sentence … It is miserable cause I am usually not smart enough to remember that the last 100 times I was around those types that trying to start some intelligent conversation is a frustrating waste of time.
I have a healthy number of friends capable of higher level discussions but I am often surrounded by NPCs (non-playable characters). In video games, this means a character controlled by the computer via predetermined or responsive behavior, in real life these NPC types can’t hold regular conversations but instead they rely on robotic pre programmed MTV dumbdown algorithms to function.
I am getting better at walking away instead of trying to interact with them.
What difference does it make now? We are done. Biometrics and the big brother police state control grid is growing exponentially. It won’t stop till they cover the earth with it.
But ya there are rules I support. Some people might say libertarianism and environmentalism are incompatible. Not really cause libertarianism basically says do what ever you want as long as you don’t harm other people but for example that obviously doesn’t include spraying cancer causing Roundup all over the place. I would support using authority to ban that stuff.
This is authoritarianism : The officials in Bass’ hometown of Oak Park, Mich., have charged her with growing “vegetable garden in front yard space.” Woman Faces Jail Time For Growing Vegetable Garden in Her Own Front Lawn https://abcnews.go.com/US/vegetable-garden-brings-criminal-charges-oak-park-michigan/story
When the state will come to your house with deadly sidearms to kidnap and put you in a cage for growing vegetables in your front yard not harming anyone you may be dealing with out of control authoritarianism.
But again what does it matter now, I don’t see the trend ever reversing.
“We are now moving to facial-recognition technology, which takes it to a whole new level, where it can see the face of the person in the car and run that technology against databases. https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/inside-cuomos-plan-to-have-your-face-scanned-at-nyc-toll-plazas/ ”
Game over folks, this beast will not stop. Welcome to the “New World Order” smile at the cameras LOL
Double post what ever
I am going to get this book. I find the most frustrating part of being an Anti Authoritarian is trying to instill it into people who are not. You can see it in my first post trying to find evidence make a case…
And I keep thinking about this young woman I met who was new to addiction recovery for opiate dependency who was assaulted with Haldol in a hospital. She kept referring to the Haldol as “booty juice”. I suggested or told her in sort of nice way to stop using that low life looser slang to describe how they assaulted her. You are not a looser low life stop with that.
Long post short I was unable to instill a fight back attitude or even get her to be open to the idea that psychiatry is a scam. The anti authoritarianism was in her, likely the source of many of her problems but it was so buried in the MTV brand of stupid culture it was un reachable to be directed towards anything useful.
Anti authoritarianism is a sign of and/or result of intelligence. I believe they ( T.H.E.Y The Hierarchy Enslaving You ) I believe they are engaged in deliberate dumbing down of the population because of this.
For example: http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-signs-that-educational-tv-totally-dead/ https://www.skepticblog.org/2012/01/25/science-tv-sell-out/ http://www.google.com/search?q=science+channel+dumbed+down
Its a conspiracy theory that’s real tough to point to hard evidence of but its so easy to see it in action. Its a given that if you want to rule over a large group of people you don’t want them to be too smart.
Its natural for many young people to look for an outlet to rebel, so what have they given them as outlets ? Lots of ways to “resist” such as Hip Hop culture, acting like the people on “Jersey shore” the epicenter of stupid MTV and getting Tattoos.
This is epic > Tattoos Are For Stupid People https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sig4hAqtpLg
The dumbing down to combat anti authoritarianism is real.
I am just looking at the picture and of all the different ways to exercise jogging has to be the most difficult way of going about it cause IMO it takes alot of push to make yourself go out and do it and has the least amount of positive feedback. Jog to the end of the block now I am tired this sucks… I would rate dirt bike riding as the number one way to exercise as the fun of it creates the positive feedback to continue the activity.
Like the Mohs scale, the ten minerals of the Mohs scale are talc (measuring 1 on the scale), gypsum, calcite, fluorite, apatite, orthoclase, quartz, topaz, corundum, and diamond (measuring 10 on the scale).
Dirt biking is diamond and jogging is talc. Every other activity could be set in between.
Want depressed people to exercise better suggest something fun or they won’t do it.
Sex is the best exercise but that entire subject is usually left out of discussions on mental health.
Maybe add a “Parents of mentally ill children” section to the forums on MIA too.
All the other online forums I ever found were horrible, all they do in those echo chambers is parrot the same thing over and over, basically this “psychiatric drugging never did anything but make my kid sick but don’t give up hope keep doing it to yours”. We have been looking for the “right meds” making our child sick for years without success and YOU should do the same thing… Those forums are horrible.
I have signed up and “trolled” several of them by asking where are the success stories ? And why are you people suggesting I use psychiatric drugs on my child when I just read 100 threads on this forum and found no success stories ? The best they could ever come up with is “we don’t judge here.” Its a legitimate observation the lack of success stories.
I trolled this website bad https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/who-is-behind-the-pharma-front-understood-org/
Of course they attempted to block me then changed the website so you can’t just sign up and post right away in the forums cause they couldn’t handle criticism and discussion of the mass drugging of school children.
I AM GOING TO SUE THIS PLACE !!! If that worked shouldn’t institutional child abuse only exist in history books at this point ?
Ask that attorney about “Defense of Third Person”
“Defense of a third person justifies the use or threat of physical force or deadly physical force only while the danger continues, and it ends when the danger ends. The force used may not be greater than reasonably necessary to defend against the danger.
Actual danger is not necessary to justify the use of physical force or deadly physical force in defense of a third person.
The use of physical force or deadly physical force is justified if a reasonable person in the situation would have reasonably believed that immediate physical danger appeared to be present. https://lawofselfdefense.com/jury_instruction/az-raji3d-4-06-%E2%88%92-justification-for-defense-of-a-third-person/”
I am just stuck on the idea that families need to have an obligation to defend their own even if you have to take one for the team and do some jail time. I guess what I am really stuck on is the idea that families are allowing this to happen, don’t just cry on some documentary and hope public cares, its not my job or the publics job in the end its yours, step up and do something its your family member.
One problem is that if claiming to be suicidal got you loving caring positive attention instead of the nightmare posing as help we would likely be over run with fakers saying they want to kill themselves constantly.
I have no idea how but solving that problem maybe could solve the whole problem.
Winterbourne View The Abuse Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOlojIcEE4s
“Even her father must kneel to speak with his daughter through the metal door’s hatch.”
I don’t know why the parents don’t use violence against the people abusing their children, all they have to do is follow these people when they leave the place and confront them on even ground like in a parking lot if they stop at a store and the way home from this hell hole. Follow them home and do what ever. Normal rules of civility don’t apply to perpetrators of child abuse.
You beat someone to a bloody pulp as long as they don’t die at most if you are really unlucky you are going to only get a few years in jail for assault and wile in jail your status will be real high among the other inmates if your “crime” is attacking a child abuser so it wouldn’t be that bad.
It may be politically incorrect but I put some of the blame on the parents for allowing their children to be abused and not taking action.
Institutional child abuse would end tomorrow if staff feared running into family outside the safety of their hell holes.
This is terrible, we should just allow the entire 3rd world population of like 3 or 4 billion people to come to the United States.
“Global Mental Health” What is that really about ?
“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas… The re-interpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of the old people, these are the belated objectives… for charting the changes in human behavior.” George Brock Chisholm (1896-1971), head of the World Health Organization, Psychiatry (1946)
“Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished … The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at: first, that influences of the home are ‘obstructive’ and verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective … It is for the future scientist to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.” Bertrand Russell quoting Johann Gottlieb Fichte, the head of philosophy & psychology who influenced Hegel and others — Prussian University in Berlin, 1810
“…through schools of the world we shall disseminate a new conception of government — one that will embrace all of the collective activities of men; one that will postulate the need for scientific control and operation of economic activities in the interests of all people.” Harold Rugg, student of psychology and a disciple of John Dewey
“Education does not mean teaching people to know what they do not know — it means teaching them to behave as they do not behave.” National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) sponsored report: The Role of Schools in Mental Health
“The educational system should be a sieve, through which all the children of a country are passed. It is highly desirable that no child escape inspection.” Paul Popenoe, Behavioral Eugenist and co-author: “Sterilization for Human Betterment”
In spite of the footage, Milwaukee’s District Attorney John Chisholm went so far as to rule that “there was no basis to conclusively link Mr Trammell’s death to the actions taken by the police officers”.
WTF “John Chisholm” you psycho ass, they busted into his house and electrocuted him in the shower multiple times. That’s why he died.
https://www.pbs.org/video/adam-trammell-death-john-chisholm-robin-shellow/ “John Chisholm” What a incredibly huge sack of shit. Dude has no soul.
“Sexual assaults, knife attacks and suicide attempts are common.” – NYT article
What ever happened to making safe zones in there home countries ?
Oh sure they only do sexual assaults and knife attacks BECAUSE of the camp conditions. Ya right.
The “Hollywood Reporter” was not very nice with their review of this movie.
I just put “Hollywood is” into Google and auto suggest suggested “Hollywood is a cesspool” ROTF I will put screenshot in the forums. Thanks Google, my thoughts exactly.
“We want them to know it’s still happening. Not much has changed.”
In this new age of video surveillance in “hospitals” we should have an endless supply of evidence that its still happening. How does all that video of the assaults and atrocities behind locked doors manage to stay out of public view ??? I just remember the most common reaction from people being violated in that Universal Health Services (NYSE: UHS) hellhole posing as a hospital was stating “I am going to sue this place!” Its a logical reaction until you realize the staff has heard that at least 1000 times and nothing ever happens so that threat is useless for self defense.
I think people should do some “Project Veritas” on their asses. One person get admitted and one sneak in a key-chain 720p DVR camera as a visitor so the person admitted can record the atrocities. You get some video of the assaults by staff then contact the people assaulted and give them the video to show a lawyer… Could be profitable too.
Police used to think they could brutalize at will till people started recording them. With police you have to be in the right place at the right time as its completely unpredictable, for people reading who have never seen in those “hospitals”, the assaults are routine.
That’s it. I just like putting that one out there maybe I will inspire some people LOL
I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 1 this year. Not anytime soon but I too am likely to die directly from the negative effects of psychiatric drugs. Thought I was OK, I was a survivor, that nightmare was all in my past. I quit that poison in 2007 but it got me. I knew I was never the same after that withdrawal sickness.
“Don’t worry its safe” That doctors exact words when he handed my that sample bottle of Zyprexa and I was reading those fine print medical words on the paper in the package.
Private school. Get your kids out of Americas indoctrination centers.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. ATTRIBUTION: Chinese proverb
These days it only takes a day to build a house that could last a man a lifetime. https://www.businessinsider.com/house-built-one-day-apis-cor-2017-3
As long as the big tech monopoly doesn’t turn on critics of psychiatry, like for example how they attempted to wipe Alex Jones off the internet by deplatforming, we should be alright. The Golden age of online free speech really is over though.
“My studies in this area lead me to a very uncomfortable conclusion: Our citizens would be far better off if we removed all the psychotropic drugs from the market, as doctors are unable to handle them. It is inescapable that their availability creates more harm than good.” – Peter Gøtzsche, MD
I believe he is correct, I have talked to hundreds of people exposed to psychiatric drugging and the vast majority say they were harmed.
Mental health policies globally… “Global” My gosh ! Whats next “universal” the whole universe ? All of space and time , including planets, stars, galaxies ?
So anyway is it that the New World Order is going to be like the opposition to mental “disorder” putting all the disordered people into what ever the proper order is they decide on ?
Who are “they” ? T-H-E-Y
The Hierarchy Enslaving You.
Double commenting I don’t care, schools should be education centers not mental wards WTF its the parents job to decide to take kids to doctors not the big brother supers state psycho American schools to be labeling and drugging our children. And people thought the USSR was psycho.
Why not give even more children high powered stimulants so that way when they get side effects such as Common side effects of Ritalin include:
sleep problems (insomnia),
loss of appetite,
increased heart rate,
increased blood pressure,
cold feeling in your hands or feet…
So much for “at first do no harm” but then can then pump them full of even more drugs with more ‘side’ effects to treat those problems.
Those indoctrination centers posing as schools can’t be trusted to be psych wards too. Look at the track record they already have. https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/06/generation-rx/
This is my favorite article on sleep
The myth of the eight-hour sleep
By Stephanie Hegarty BBC World Service
School start times are too early and it’s harmful to kids, CDC warns http://www.google.com/search?q=early+school+start+harms+teens
Ignorant rigid thinking people argue that all that is needed is for kids to get to bed earlier. But research shows that teenagers often can’t help staying up late.
“In puberty, biological rhythms commonly shift so that adolescents become sleepy later at night and need to sleep later in the morning,” …
Its proved but few people care in Americas dumb you down indoctrination centers posing as educational institutions.
“Maybe the best teachers of how to avoid suicide will not be the people who are afraid someone else will die, but those of us who can explain how and why we regularly choose to live.”
That’s so obvious but brilliant at the same time.
If anyone noticed I have been gone from the comments for a little wile.
Anyway I have my own little Soteria house going on right now as an old friend showed up in a somewhat “psychotic” state and has been staying with me.
She is getting better, obsessing less on things like the electronic things are listening and recording, people plotting against and stuff like that and is calming down. She is now able to apartment hunt and has family backup to help pay when she picks one. I really want to call her mom to discuss but at this point that would be taken as plotting, trying to run her life… if she found out. I am not doing that. Her mom knows she is here.
She was getting close, real close to doing something in public making a scene that would have lead to hospitalization a few weeks ago and I know too well those hospitals are usually just traumatizing nightmares. What an incredible waste that would have been, she is looking for job and apartment now and the cost of a hospital stay is apartment rent for a year.
I am only helping one person, I bet running a Soteria house with many people is no easy job at all.
The problem with sorting comments by best is an early so called best comment gets stuck on top and gets seen by more people therefor artificially gets more likes. If someone makes a much better comment later on it never has a chance because it is pushed down out of sight.
I see this on YouTube and Disqus all the time when sort by best is the default setting. The “best” comment is good enough to get upvotes but really is not the best, its not even that good, it just had the advantage of getting more views because it rose to the top early on.
I think sort by newest as default encourages the longest discussions because I feel like if my comment has 100 above it few people are going to read down that far so why bother.
Now they turned adulthood into addiction. No coincidence all the drug overdoses as the first medication generation grew up. Go to an AA or NA meeting and bring up the subject of psychiatry then ask all the young people if they were drugged in school. See how many say yes.
Us activist types are a different breed, I suspect the sheep won’t find it dehumanizing at all.
I was going to say who are the “unhealthy” students ?
A gene linked to attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and addiction might also help you live to be 100.
A study published in the Journal of Neuroscience found that a version of a gene coding for a receptor for the brain chemical dopamine was 66% more common among people who lived to be 90 or older than among a group of younger people who were otherwise similar. http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/11/could-a-dopamine-gene-be-the-answer-to-a-longer-life/
ADHD , the only “disease” so unhealthy that it makes you live longer.
“At least three federal agencies are investigating whether the psychiatric hospital giant UHS held patients longer than medically necessary to maximize profits”
Universal Health Services – BuzzFeed Tag
How hard is it to investigate ? These UHS criminals wrote “suicidal” on my medical records after I went to the ER for help complaining of anxiety attacks and anyone who has ever had anxiey attacks knows that you are in fear dying and don’t want to, completely the opposite of suicidal.
traumatization is when they expect you to swallow massive amounts of neuroleptics then wait for them to enter your bloodstream and see how much your muscles twitch and mind malfunctions. If you refuse this they make threats of violent assaults to inject you if you try and fight it. How else besides a violent assault to you give an injection to someone refusing ?
If you make threats in return to assault and stick them with a needle full of drugs someday when they are walking to their cars after work they then threaten to call police. I said go ahead and call police all I am going to do make the exact same complaint to the police as you people make about me. You people made the exact same threat to me first, exactly the same threat. Assault and injection.
The whole place was a traumatization, they never touched me but witnessing violence and other people getting it was a daily occurrence. Did not help my anxiety much to say the least. Could not relax in that place it was a horror show.
Advocating Censorship is NAZI shit.
With drugs and alcohol they even try doing treatment perfectly and that creates its own problems. Seen that many times.
The Forced Drugging Defense Package developed by the Law Project for Psychiatric Rights for the MindFreedom Shield program. http://www.google.com/search?q=forced+drugging+defense+package
Escaping across state lines
Police won’t chase 330,000 accused felons
If they won’t even chase people accused of felonies logic dictates that chances are 99.999% certain no one is going to bother looking for or doing anything about someone that ditched on a forced drugging order.
Seems we need a modern day version of Harriet Tubmans underground railroad to help people escape states with psychiatric slavery.
It could be as simple as checking someones mail and forwarding disability checks to a persons new location in many cases.
Get a PO box at a UPS store
Mail holding and forwarding**
We’ll hold your packages in a secure location for pick up at your convenience or we can forward them to you, wherever you are. https://www.theupsstore.com/mailboxes/personal-mailboxes
The biggest hurtle may be the lack of a support group in a new location. Moving is not easy. If you can stomach those 12 step meetings it doesn’t take long to connect with new people.
A question I have seen in forums many times is people asking if they can escape AOT by leaving the state. I know so little about this but I would think if one was to just move even a small distance from their current address and they never tell the government where they are ‘living’ they would never put any effort into finding you. Get a post office box and who cares what address is on an ID, the whole concept of address is stupid except for voting in local elections otherwise its no ones business where you “live” . I will always “live” where ever I happen to be at the moment wile I am alive.
Missouri and South Carolina appear to be the only two that have not adopted the Uniform Criminal Extradition Act (UCEA). The UCEA allows the arrest of fugitives in a state accused of a crime in another state for which the penalty is at least one year in jail.
Then there is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States#Interstate_extradition
Being accused of mental illness is not a crime anyway that why they call it “civil commitment”.
If someone can tell me anything about how the enforcement of AOT works please go here https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/how-do-they-enforce-assisted-outpatient-treatment-aot-forced-drugging-orders/
IMO there are no non addictive anxiety drugs that work. If they ever find something it will be the biggest blockbuster drug ever and change the world in unforeseen ways if everyone is anxiety free.
Part 1: Children reveal painful memories of neglect, heavy duty drug treatments. https://youtu.be/YzmQ1nxYn-Y?t=1m6s
There are not many where the children describe it themselves.
Its like the choice between democrat or republican. Both incredibly flawed.
“At parties, David and Michael would nose around in cabinets overflowing with Xanax, Valium, Klonopin, and Benzos of all shapes and sizes. They would take out the powder, snort it, and fill the empty pill cases with sugar.”
Xanax, Valium, Klonopin do not come in capsules. Neither does oxy or roxy codone or Dilaudid or percocet … or anything a medicine cabinet bandit would look for.
This author knows so little about the subject of drugs and addiction he or she should just stay out of the discussion instead of wasting our time and making stuff up.
(i) A written prescription for less than a 10 day supply of a benzodiazepine or a non-benzodiazepine hypnotic shall not be refilled.
“Consent to urine drug screening at the initiation of the informed consent process and at least two times each year thereafter”
I just have to warn people that they are pushing to turn your doctors office and pharmacy into a probation department with mandatory pull down your pants for observed drug testing and putting you into government databases.
Beware of Benzodiazepine Awareness Day https://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic196789.html
Lets see, alcohol prohibition was an epic fail. The crackdown on opiate prescriptions backfired and brought in heroin and fentanyl killing tens of thousands and started the war on chronic pain patients making their lives incredibly miserable. But this time with benzodiazapines the prohibitionists will pull it off without unforeseen consequences.
I have been donating time every day for years helping fight the abuses by the psychiatric industry. I don’t like “we-bad”.
True. I get it.
I did a report on this. “The circuitry used to generate the magnetic field pulses is usually based on a capacitor discharge system (shown in its simplest form in figure 4) with typical peak coil currents in the range of several kiloamps and discharge voltages of up to a few kilo volts. The relatively high voltage is required to give the required rapid rise of current into the inductance of the stimulating coil.”
They want you to think of harmless refrigerator magnets but its very high energy, IMO its more like magnetic ECT. A magnetic field is used to cause electric current to flow in the brain via induction.
It includes videos, you can see hobbyists playing with the “inductance of the stimulating coil” crushing cans and destroying things and some idiot experimenting with it on himself.
“people report that the life experiences they find most personally meaningful typically involve loved ones.”
Fathers Day – Film “Erasing Dad” exposes the War on Fathers https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/fathers-day-2017-film-erasing-dad-exposes-the-war-on-fathers/
Ever notice how you can tell so much about a person by how they make a magazine photo collage in art therapy?
There are always some that cut out nothing but pictures of expensive houses, cars, jewelry, superficial celebrities ect and and paste them all to their board.
These people are much more likely to end up in debt thinking material stuff will make them happy then the people who cut out the pictures of the nature stuff for a collage or some other theme.
1 in 5 thought about suicide in the past two weeks…
I have to go check my mail. Its been a wile I wonder what BS is waiting for me. The guy at the counter always asks me how I am doing and I reply it depends on what I find in that box. How is the government or insurance company or financial institution going to F me over today ? Never know till I open the box. What do the bloodsuckers want from me today ?
People need to get angry, and real men fight back crybaby crap won’t help anything.
I still think that just dropping one of these creepy Abilify chip pills into a cup filled with warm grapefruit juice or vinegar would simulate the stomach acid needed for the sender chip to tell the pharma gestapo the pill was ingested.
“The sensor, containing copper, magnesium and silicon (safe ingredients found in foods), generates an electrical signal when splashed by stomach fluid, like a potato battery, said Andrew Thompson, Proteus’s president and chief executive.” Read more https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/defeating-the-abilify-chip-pill-by-fooling-it-into-thinking-its-in-a-stomach/
The only people to either victimize or exploit are the other inmates, who else is there?
Answer: The institution itself
A fun thing to pass time in an institution is finding stuff like splinters of wood or plastic anything to jam into keyholes then watch the staff clowns take turns trying to open the door, when they fail the locksmiths that follow are fun to watch too.
That little thing that takes a second, jamming a lock, can easily cost the institution $1000
Then there is clogging toilets, tear up clothing or sheets and make long strips like ropes and flush them. The go down the toilet ok, it may take several flushes to pull down a long one but farther down stream they bunch up and can take out the waste pipe for the whole floor then they have to move everyone till its fixed.
I just made a similar comment on this story Children on Antipsychotics at Risk for Weight Gain and Diabetes. https://www.madinamerica.com/2018/06/children-antipsychotics-risk-weight-gain/
“Behavioral improvements were observed with all treatments.” They make that statement with nothing to back it up and I know its not true.
I must say though that libertarianism is 100 times less flawed then liberal or conservative ideas posing as ideology ! http://www.google.com/search?q=liberatarians+highest+IQ
Ban guns to save children and fund more abortions ! -Liberals
We want small government tougher laws and more police and jails ! -Conservatives
That crap doesn’t even qualify as ideology.
“As another activist commented recently, most approaches to suicide prevention are like trying to stop someone from jumping out of a burning building while doing nothing to put out the fire. This is as true of psychiatric hospitalization as it is of hotlines.”
This is true, before my recovery from psychiatric drugging I would show up at the ER with crippling anxiety attacks. On my way to the hospital I always mentally prepared an explanation for showing up there in such a state. For some reason I always expected someone to sit down with me and ask what the heck is going on and that is why I would try and mentally prepare so I could explain it clearly and in chronological order.
All I would get is the get in the gown and sit alone in that fish tank room for “observation” with no one observing and no one to talk to. Then of course the situation changes to I hope I get the ativan and go home and not sent up to psych detention for that nightmare.
I don’t know why I always expected help sorting it out when I never got anything but label and drug before.
Why did it take so long to realize psychiatry itself was the cause of my problem ? Before I met those quacks my only problem was insomnia and being late for work, after all those pills everything fell apart. Before psychiatry I never ever had a “mental health crisis” and didn’t even know hospitals had those psych lockup atrocities inside.
The headline should be “Pretty Much Nobody Cares that Children on Antipsychotics are at Risk for Weight Gain and Diabetes” and proof of that is the fact they continue destroying children’s health wile calling the disabling effects “improvements”.
I read the article and
“Behavioral improvements were observed with all treatments.” They consider shuffling, drooling or the zombie flat affect an “improvement”. Are they saying destroying a child’s health is worth it ?
“Dr. John Newcomer, principal investigator and professor of integrated medical science at the Charles E. Schmidt College of Medicine, said in the release that researchers knew children taking antipsychotics gained fat and had an increased risk of diabetes, but before this research “no one had connected those dots through a pathway involving increases in body fat and decreases in insulin sensitivity.”
No dude, lots of people connected those dots many did it decades ago.
This is not on the news cause the pharmaceutical companies spend billions on those ask your doctor drug ads.
The rising police state has caused Americans more stress and anxiety.
Young people can’t see it cause it because police state America is all they have ever known.
Study: 1 in 3 Americans Arrested By Age 23 | TIME.com
They are less depressed because the world is set up to favor morning people.
If you say you got up “bright and early” and accomplished something people act like they deserve a medal and they get praised.
If I stayed up late and accomplished the same thing the night before no one cares and may call you lazy for “over sleeping” the next day.
How long is it going to take to shut down psychiatry ? The proof of much much more harm then good to anyone exposed to them has been out for a long time now yet psychiatry continues freely destroying lives.
How to Build a House in 2 Days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycI1GNnl-Fk
Someday people will figure out that homelessness is a problem solved by construction workers, building material and power tools not social workers, computers and office supplies.
Incrementalism is a process whereby society is slowly engineered and our rights and freedoms are slowly eroded over time so that we don’t notice it’s happening and we are led to believe change is necessary on only one item and this change is not related to other changes. In the short term the changes are almost imperceptible, but are nevertheless part of a long term campaign to gain control of us all. http://www.globalistagenda.org/keytactics.htm
This website does a good job of explaining why they are breaking us. Some of it is over the top but its fun to read.
If you want to rule over a large number of people do you want them smart ? The dumbing-down of America is no accident. http://alpha-phonics.weebly.com/john-deweys-plan-to-dumb-down-america.html
The American “education” system LOL child drugging and memorization for government tests.
Two UHS facilities are at the center of a scandal that’s rocked the behavioral health system for juveniles in Illinois. http://uhsbehindcloseddoors.org/2015/02/uhs-at-center-of-juvenile-faclity-scandal-in-illinois/
I knew UHS had to be a part of this.
I wonder if its just reported more cause of cameras it can’t be swept under rug.
“Substandard” lol, can’t we just say they suck ? Or sub-suck cause the ‘standard’ itself sucks.
Or maybe inferior, second-rate, low-quality, poor, below par, subpar, imperfect, faulty, defective, shoddy, shabby, unsound, unsatisfactory, third-rate, crummy, lousy, not up to scratch/snuff, rinky-dink
I always feel less anxiety when I regularly do weight lifting. I have been at it for years. Even if I fall off for a wile like a month I always go back. Sucks not having gym muscle and just being a normie.
I still say people need to sneak cameras into these places then put the atrocities on YouTube. One person gets real drunk and acts mental to get admitted then have a friend come as a visitor and sneak in a camera. It could be like Project Veritas and the Rosenhan Experiment combined.
Here is your spotlight http://www.google.com/search?q=keychain+camera
If anti depressants ever worked they would eventually destroy humanity cause everyone would take them and feel nothing but happy and not strive to do anything at all.
See: Star Trek – S01 E24 – This Side Of Paradise https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6g5103
You know that something is terribly wrong, but you can’t put your finger on what or why. Life shouldn’t have to be so difficult, so insecure, so insane. The United States, which at least pretended to respect human rights and freedoms, has deteriorated into a criminal empire and a police state…
In the year 1930, John Maynard Keynes predicted that, by century’s end, technology would have advanced sufficiently that countries like Great Britain or the United States would have achieved a 15-hour work week. There’s every reason to believe he was right. In technological terms, we are quite capable of this. And yet it didn’t happen. Instead, technology has been marshaled, if anything, to figure out ways to make us all work more. In order to achieve this, jobs have had to be created that are, effectively, pointless. Huge swathes of people, in Europe and North America in particular, spend their entire working lives performing tasks they secretly believe do not really need to be performed. The moral and spiritual damage that comes from this situation is profound. It is a scar across our collective soul. Yet virtually no one talks about it.
Read More > STRIKE! Magazine – On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs
I have never read it explained better that.
Racism is being kept alive for the purpose of divide and conquer. At this stage of development they need the masses to believe that our police state problem is a racism problem. The social engineers are hard at work.
Look online at the photos from the Eric Garner protests, it was people of all colors, they knew they were in trouble when the scene is the people vs oppressors so they quickly had their major TV fake news networks say racism 1000 times a day and the people started buying it, suddenly its race vs race instead of freedom vs tyranny. Divide and conquer works.
It really doesn’t matter anymore cause there is no turning back, the police state technocracy is built and up and running. They never say we went to far so here is some of your freedoms back.
Chinese man caught by facial recognition at pop concert – BBC News
Apr 13, 2018 – Shenzhen police can now identify drivers using facial recognition …
http://www.scmp.com › Tech › China Tech
Apr 25, 2018 – Expanded traffic surveillance programme in Shenzhen will identify and fine violators, including those driving without a valid license.
People are sheep and they are going accept the police state technocracy world wide as older generations die off and the newer ones just accept it as normal. Equality is going to be when everyone is equally a slave to the beast machine.
In police state USA home of the largest prison population in the history of mankind they don’t give a crap if you even committed the crime or not.
Kalief Browder was sent to Rikers Island when he was 16 years old, accused of stealing a backpack. Though he never stood trial or was found guilty of any crime, he spent three years at the New York City jail complex, nearly two of them in solitary confinement…
Jerome Murdough’s only crime was trying to stay warm outdoors on a cold night. In a terrible irony, his life ended after his arrest last month when he “baked to death” inside a sweltering jail cell on Rikers Island… City officials (soulless cockroaches) say Rikers Island jail cell housing Jerome Murdough, 56, had overheated to at least 100 degrees…
Kelly Thomas was beaten to death by police officers…
Do not get scammed with those “special lights”
That 300 watt old school incandescent light bulb in the hardware store puts out the same color spectrum at the proper intensity.
I already researched this for the article on seasonal depression
“Shortage of Alternatives”
Stop trying to make excuses to take the blame off yourselves.
How a $2 Roadside Drug Test Sends Innocent People to Jail. Widespread evidence shows that these tests routinely produce false positives. Why are police departments and prosecutors across the country still using them?
You Don’t Own Your Home and Never Will http://www.petesisco.com/you-dont-own-your-home-and-never-will/
To live the “American dream” You have to work yourself to death because the government and insurance industry are always on your back and in your pockets.
Never mentioned or even implied is the shamefulness of the DMV (Department of motorist extortion) and the insurance industry that doesn’t permit a worker to afford his own commute. Never mentioned or even implied is the shamefulness of the $10,000 tax bill on that small house…
Most people are sheep that’s why this oppressive system still exists.
I talk to victims of inpatient psychiatric abuse all the time in addiction recovery. Maybe they did not like how they were treated but most of them seem to think it was ok or recite the 5 word mantra of losers “it is what it is” and have no desire to do anything about it.
Us activists are a rare breed.
The hospitals are part of Arbour Health System, which is owned by Pennsylvania-based Universal Health Services, the largest owner of abusive and crimminal psychiatric hospitals and clinics in the country. https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosalindadams/intake
Indoor vs Outdoor is only part of it.
18 Signs That U.S. Public Schools Are Now Equivalent To U.S. Prisons http://www.businessinsider.com/public-schools-are-now-comparable-to-us-prisons-2011-6
I got an idea, how about if when they catch people in the earlier stages of opiate addiction they charge them with possession and screw up their lives with the legal system, steal what money they have left with court fees and fines to make billions of dollars for the crooked courts, lawyers, police and the private prison industry instead of using that money for treatment.
What they can also do is with full knowledge of the fact that anxiety, depression and hopelessness is a driving force in addiction they could give anyone they catch with an addiction problem a criminal record that stays with them for life creating more anxiety, depression and hopelessness.
Oh wait they already do that. Maybe it will start helping solve the problem soon.
I think the ‘war on fun’ and upping the drinking age to 21 created the so called opiate epidemic. People don’t have real parties anymore.
“First, some dire numbers: the amount of high school seniors who have a never attended a party has climbed to 41.3 percent, from 11.6 percent in 1987. And it’s not just high school kids who are staying home more often: according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in 2003 the average 18 to 24-year-old reported spending an average of 15 minutes a day, on weekends or holidays (the time a party would most likely occur), hosting or attending social gatherings. Although that doesn’t sound like a lot — only a few hours of partying a month ”
“If you think about it, in the pre-cell phone era, you either had to make plans in advance for your Friday night, or risk winding up at home doing nothing at all. It wasn’t nearly as easy to call your friends at the last minute and see what they were doing, because once people left home for the evening it was pretty much impossible to contact them.”
Its amazing how almost any idea I think of I web search it and someone has already wrote about it !!!
I’d rather see my kids sipping beer out of a red Solo cup at a well-patrolled fraternity party than drinking shots and popping a Vicodin in someone’s basement off campus. https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/05/07/lower-the-us-drinking-age-to-reduce-binge-drinking-and-sexual-assault
Why do people become kleptomaniacs on Xanax? http://www.bing.com/search?q=xanax+shoplifting
I always say parents should try the drugs on themselves before giving it to their children. Its pretty much the same as checking to see if a bowl of soup is not too hot before giving it to a child.
If the 80lb child is expected to take 20mg of Ritalin a day the 160lb parent should double the dose and try it on themselves first.
Teachers should also do this. I guarantee perceptions of child drugging by parents and teachers will be changed within 30 minutes of them swallowing the pills.
I watched the CNN school shooting Town Hall special yesterday 2/21/18 and as I predicted they did not play a single “ask your doctor” for suicide side effect pills. This article needs to point out how the pharmaceutical industry owns big media.
I am not sure we should be blaming the mental health system, I think a better approach would be to directly blame the individuals who are abusing people and hold them accountable. I was threatened with an assault and injection when I refused an overdose of their lobotomy pills.
Lucky for them they never assaulted and injected me cause after it was all over if the legal system did not give me justice I would have got justice myself with a baseball bat breaking some knee caps as they walked to their cars after “work” in that hell hole posing as a hospital.
The mental health system did not abuse me, a few people “working” in that hell hole did.
Some people will say they are “just doing their jobs” often known as the Nuremberg defense, lawful orders or by the German phrase Befehl ist Befehl “an order is an order”… Its not a legitimate excuse.
In my years in recovery from alcohol and Rx drugs going to AA and volunteering at a treatment center I have heard 100s of stories from completely normal people who did absolutely crazy S wile on benzos including bank robbery in that memory blacked out state. I believe that benzo induced insanity is what allowed this to happen. This guy likely had troubles and even thoughts of mass murder but in my option it was benzo insanity that lead to or “allowed” him to carry it out. It had to be.
Try some of this http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manowar
Boarding school survivors. http://www.google.com/search?q=boarding+school+survivors
In 2001, historian Roger Ekirch of Virginia Tech published a seminal paper, drawn from 16 years of research, revealing a wealth of historical evidence that humans used to sleep in two distinct chunks.
His book At Day’s Close: Night in Times Past, published four years later, unearths more than 500 references to a segmented sleeping pattern – in diaries, court records, medical books and literature, from Homer’s Odyssey to an anthropological account of modern tribes in Nigeria
Read more http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16964783
Sometimes if it seems a person is more interested in their phone then me I will just politely walk away and find something else to do.
In addition to having the highest incarceration rate in the world, the United States also holds the dubious distinction of having more correctional facilities than degree-granting colleges and universities.
Its gotten pretty bad in the USSA http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=police+brutality
Throughout the entire history every time they come out with something new it harm lots of people but this time it will be different.
People are almost twice as likely to be taking antidepressants or other psychotropic medication just before getting a divorce. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2013/08/15/prozac-preceeds-divorce/
Citalopram is the divorce drug http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/11439-citalopram-is-the-divorce-drug/
“The Unrecognized Marriage-Killing Effects of SSRI Antidepressants
In this paper, I will identify the three primary neural systems involved in mating and reproduction: the sex drive, romantic love, and attachment; I will discuss the effects of general and SSRI antidepressants on the neural systems; and finally, I will demonstrate how SSRI antidepressants may be an unrecognized and leading cause of infidelity, resulting in an increased divorce rate. ”
Antidepressants May Thwart Quest for True Love https://www.wired.com/2009/02/antidepressants/
I though of the idea that the mass drugging of the population with drugs that cause sexual dysfunction was increasing divorce rate, then I found this stuff online so I was not the first.
I call it antisocial media, faces stuck in those phones all day.
Instead of modifying the schools to fit the children they drug the children to fit the schools. Its sick.
There’s no way to rule innocent men.
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
– Ayn Rand
“Have you ever wondered if all those people you see staring intently at their smartphones — nearly everywhere, and at all times — are addicted to them? According to a former Google product manager you are about to hear from, Silicon Valley is engineering your phone, apps and social media to get you hooked. He is one of the few tech insiders to publicly acknowledge that the companies responsible for programming your phones are working hard to get you and your family to feel the need to check in constantly. Some programmers call it “brain hacking” and the tech world would probably prefer you didn’t hear about it.” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brain-hacking-tech-insiders-60-minutes/
Maybe if the left didn’t turn schools into mental institutions they wouldn’t have any psychiatry on campus in the first place.
“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in”
To read the Washington post article without signing up refresh the page then hit the X real fast before the nag screen appears.
Dropping the Abilify Chip pill into Acidic warm water should fool this system into thinking the victim ingested it as long as it is kept near the receiver.
How could this system tell if the pill is in a persons stomach or some 98 degree acidic liquid in a cup or even there own stomach contents they vomited up kept warm and dropped the pill into ?
“A new chapter in human darkness has descended” Well said.
I still think that just dropping one of these creepy Abilify chip pills into a cup filled with warm grapefruit juice or vinegar would simulate the stomach acid needed for the sender chip to tell the pharma gestapo the pill was ingested. https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/05/abilify_surveillance_pill/
How this system works is described in the above link.
Video certainly works better at exposing these people better then writing about it.
Medication Assisted Treatment … Plain old raw opium right from the poppy would probably be the best thing.
Smoke , feel better and have a nice day… All these chemicals and chemistry buprenorphine, methadone, naltrexone , just smoke it the way the plant made it if opiates are your thing and again have a nice day.
I think almost all so called mental illness is a form of PTSD.
Sit in any group therapy with like 20 people for MI or substance abuse and listen for a wile , everyone had the trauma.
I sat in so many. we all had the trauma usually childhood. No one ever noticed that either in the group as a part or running it ?
Just ban the ask your doctor ads already, everyone hates them including doctors.
“We must embrace new and effective job-training approaches, including online courses, high school curriculums, and private-sector investment that prepare people for trade, manufacturing, technology, and other really well-paying jobs and careers. These kinds of options can be a positive alternative to a four-year degree. So many people go to college, four years, they don’t like it, they’re not necessarily good at it, but they’re good at other things, like fixing engines and building things. I see it all the time, and I’ve seen it — when I went to school, I saw it. I sat next to people that weren’t necessarily good students but they could take an engine apart blindfolded.” https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/17/remarks-president-trump-roundtable-discussion-vocational-training-us-and
I am watching the news and next thing they might talk about is our “broken education system”.
Meanwhile I can learn about anything in the world right now by typing it into search on the upper right side of my screen.
What would I like to learn today ? How about how to build a rocket and land on the moon.
About 9,230,000 results (0.80 seconds)
Education system is not broken, the internet is the most amazing education system ever built. And ADHD is a huge crock they WANT the population stupid. Its functioning just as they designed it too.
I am accused of so called ADHD and I was always smarter then most of my teachers. Lucky I am old enough to got out of school before the mass drugging began.
Amphetamines work, get high study and ace the test but you don’t retain all that detail you “mastered” studying high. Short term memory retainment boost. Its fake.
I like the environmental stuff and I guess I should go hang out with the young Libertarians.
A little off topic alot went down I am drinking beer again and happier being away from those AA nuts in my town. Ok I lost the who can be sober longer game, I always do but I am more of a winner in 1000 more things then 85% of the people at the 8 pm dip shit show at the 8pm AA in my town.
What if I go to the 8pm AA meeting and tell them I am happier drinking a few beers at night then being around you crazy dipshits and inspire one of them to go get some beer and they die somehow die, will I be guilty of manslaughter like Michelle Carter ?
I should stay out of Michelle Carter story cause I have not studied the story but seems to me that dude was using suicide threats to manipulate that girl and she said just go do it.
Like that opiate addict couple from AA that was manipulating me for money, like stalkers, money they ‘need’ to get better and stay afloat, rent money and suboxone, then buying crack and dope with it instead.
F off already go shoot up a big bag try not to die I guess and leave me the hell alone.
Am I guilty of something if they OD ? Go shoot a fat bag and leave me alone. Get real real high and have fun doing it.
Maybe psychiatry and the treatment center industry should stop telling young people they can never drink alcohol again because they had an episode of opiate dependency.
You were dependent on opiates at one time in your life, now you can never drink again at a weddings or on July 4th or at a new years party for the rest of your life.
Quite a thing to lay on someone in their 20s.
1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities…
Text of Unabomber Manifesto https://partners.nytimes.com/library//unabom-manifesto-1.html
This article just reminded me of the unibomber writings.
All I know is alcoholics anonymous has become drugs anonymous because the psychiatric industry funneling everyone into AA.
Alcohol is different then doing drugs so go to NA.
Done with AA for a wile after encountering these toxic stalkers after my wallet all the time for their effing dope habit. Our rent and our problems. Help us help us … We are trying to stay sober… F off. Stay away and don’t call me or I will hurt you (again). They got the message.
Mistake my kindness for weakness, big mistake.
I tried to put a new email https://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/tried-to-change-e-mail-and-that-page-to-do-it-is-no-place-to-be-found/
I forgot the password to that e-mail years ago.
What did I misrepresent or misinterpret ? Thought this was a public forum and we discuss things.
You might have the the ability to not allow “misrepresentations” here on this article or website but as long as you are making threats at me I must remind you you have no power over what I can write on the rest of the internet. And since I am not a representative in any way of the We-Bad that makes misrepresentation impossible.
I am going to make a new e-mail for this account out of curiosity of what was sent but it still seems if my thoughts about this are “misrepresentations” simply pushing the reply button and explaining how things really are is a real easy task.
Why cant someone just explain how it is not AstroTurf or point or post me a link to a page explaining all this ? Thats it what I have been after the whole time.
Of course I don’t know for certain what that sentence about refills actually entails. It was designed as deceptive vagueness because they knew if they explained it too many people wouldn’t like it.
What doctor would write a 10 day supply with 3 refills instead of 1 Rx for 30 days ? Why would they possibly do that ? You really don’t need to be that smart to see they are attempting to ban small prescriptions.
“Written prescriptions for less than a 10-day supply will not be refilled.”
They think that one size fits all work will work for everyone, I bet it works so well for many they end up in the ER after their doctor doesn’t answer and they get that message call 911 or go to the ER.
And like I said already then the ER gives them Haldol for anxiety cause benzos are bad
“Much less wage war.” You are Waging war with “Public citizen” those snakes from Washington.
“Written prescriptions for less than a 10-day supply will not be refilled.”
-the Massachusetts Benzodiazepine Bill.
World Benzodiazepine Awareness Day, Benzo Buddies and the various support groups are all participating. This initiative developed after speaking to the non-profit organization “Public Citizen”
“Public Citizen” is calling for “widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” Forced drugging
“widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” Read more https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/2330.pdf Page 12.
“assisted outpatient treatment programs” = Kidnapping, restraint , injection
The whole Idea of working with “Public Citizen” the architects of “widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” is being like Nazi Collaborators http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Nazi_Collaborators
Nothing but dishonesty, deception and lies by omission from you people.
This whole thing is AstroTurf as you people troll the internet fishing for victims to make it look grassroots.
I am a survivor, I did an unbelievable hell and back ride. I agree with this person, not so much the screen name “addiction myth” its provocative but the part about these We-Bad people don’t need to be stirring up a government drug war. Of all the psychiatric drugs I bet they have never had to force beznos anyone cause in a crisis they really help.
Once these We-Bad people get done how many people in an emotional crisis will get Haldol instead of Ativan cause the “We-Bad” benzo prohibitionists made such a stink and got there way ?
“the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” And sorry but its only the few, including myself, that get hurt.
Its not about informed consent, they say that but have another agenda. Its about stirring up the government to “do something” and just ask people with chronic pain how that works out.
Maybe some people would like to try but the lord and master lefties got to try outlaw it.
What if a young man is attracted to other men and decides this kind of sucks or I want a family and learning to like chicks if its possible is what I want.
Guess he is going to have to pay cash or travel abroad. Big nanny state always knows best right ?
Where is the story on “understood.org” child drugging and kids brains ? WASTE OF TIME this website.
I think I am done, this website is stupid now. Figure out how many links I donated my time, wasting my time posting and putting in the google index to bring people to this site and do an equal number of this site sucks posts.
Look at the story next to to the right “The Need for Empathy-Based Medicine”
How about a story of the assaults and restraints and F needles paint a picture of that.
This place sucks. OLD HEAD was right.
How Severe, Ongoing Stress Can Affect a Child’s Brain
I am sick of this place. Donate my time elsewhere. Preobly tired of me anywasy
Proverbs 18:14 A man’s spirit can endure sickness, but who can survive a broken spirit?
Nope we don’t have spirits anymore everything is now “broken brains” , Psychiatry views man as entirely physical being composed of soups and sparks and rejects the dichotomous nature of man possessing both body and soul.
The word “psychiatry” comes from the Greek and literally means, “doctor of the soul”, yet psychiatrists and the DSM-V actually mock the idea that man has a soul or a spirit. So psychiatrists are doctors of something they do not even believe in and while posing as “authorities” on the mind and mental health, psychiatry has no scientific basis for any of its treatments or methods.
HOW FAKE NEWS WORKS:
Headline: How severe, ongoing stress can affect a child’s brain.
“The approach starts with the premise that extreme stress or trauma can cause brain changes”
Premise – a previous statement or proposition from which another is inferred or follows as a conclusion. 2. Base an argument, theory, or undertaking on.
“Nelson’s research on neglected children in Romanian orphanages ‘suggests’ that early intervention might reverse damage from toxic stress.”
“Experiments in animals and humans also ‘suggest’ persistent stress ‘may’ alter brain structure”
(Experiments in Animals- Just imagine the torture all the poor creature did was exist and these crackpots torture it then kill and dissect its brain.)
How Severe, Ongoing Stress Can Affect a Child’s Brain: There is no scientific evidence to prove this: it always remains what the “fine print” in the studies tell you: “suggests,” “may” and “it is hoped.”
Fake news psychiatric propaganda.
So now MIA promotes all the broken brain psych industry BS and animal experimentation “its for the children”.
I see whats going on here, its incrementalism or gradualism starting off hitting the industry real hard to attract people who were harmed and want to fight back and gradually change the agenda to the children have broken brains and all the crap the industry has always been saying.
I want to believe this article was put here for us to pull apart and expose.
Title of this thing should have been – The Psych Industry Pushing Same Broken Brain Crap and Torturing Innocent Animals.
That would be real news.
And how EXACTLY did they “stress” the animals, how is that done ?
Maybe they would not feel so marginalized if the T.V news all news stopped labeling every single group besides white heterosexual males as radical leftists trying to turn America into Venezuela.
People from all over the world come to America to flee socialism and communism because it wrecked their countries, they don’t want to bring it here.
When many people read stuff like “pro-social behavior that promotes our collective well-being” they think of Cuba Venezuela and everywhere else that sucks and then have even more negative feelings against minority groups.
Stories like this are a major insult to undocumented immigrants, they did not make epic journey for public services free heath care … they came to work hard and the American dream that’s actually still not that hard to pull off.
Most came to make it in America not take it from America.
All this nonsence saying boobs are bad I guess and the NWO stuff too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g
“Gender neutral movement” came right up in Google autosuggest soon as I put gender and an N, I know what that is. That’s social engineering.
The worst of it is they are trying to like feminize men, look at TV , not many strong man get er done figures in TV shows anymore, the male figure is usually a bumbling clown now. Homer Simpsons. a bumbling clowns now or all soft. Thats by design.
Back to the original subject I like Tom Boys for girlfreinds better anyway (a girl who enjoys rough, noisy activities traditionally associated with boys.) Help me finish the motor out in the garage then lets see how fast it goes… Later if you want we can play paint toe nails girly stuff.
I am all about be who ever you are, conformity sucks cause it does but I think alot of that social engineering can take a hike cause its just more conformity.
The Outcast (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
The Enterprise is contacted by a humanoid race called the J’naii. They are a race who have no gender. They ask the crew for help in finding a shuttle which has gone missing. It is theorized that the shuttle disappeared into a pocket of null space
While Soren and Riker work on the shuttle, Soren confesses that she is attracted to Riker and further that she has female gender identity. Soren explains that the J’naii are an androgynous species that view the expression of any sort of male or female gender, and especially sexual liaisons, as a sexual perversion. According to their official doctrine, the J’naii had evolved beyond gender and thus view the idea of male/female sexuality as primitive. Those among the J’naii who view themselves as possessing gender are ridiculed, outcast, and forced to undergo “psychotectic therapy” – a form of therapy meant to remediate gender-specificity and allow acceptance back into J’naii society.
Is that what they want to do to our society with all this gender neutral stuff ? I wonder sometimes http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Outcast+Star+Trekk
Take an airline flight on on a non US airlines and the stewardesses are gorgeous. The US is so full of crap already with “equality” . Whats wrong with beauty in the world ? Look at all the art from the ancient world its not like we just started doing this.
I can trash trashy Hooters but not the whole idea that we can’t celebrate beauty.
Its been a wile since I crossed an ocean, I should, and I am going off topic now to but another thing I noticed traveling abroad that went against everything I was taught as a kid was that people in many other countries had more freedom. You could see and feel it.
And Americans the traffic light turns green and they just sit there “duh I am major stupid but I guess I will move now but extra stupid slow” then they go home and complain the traffic was slow. Just the shuttle from the airport in many countries they get up and move out and its wow not like home.
They should require Americans to travel abroad at least every ten years.
Those ‘Breastaurants’ seem to attract narcissistic customers the same way nightclubs do, nothing attracts narcissists like nightclubs ‘admire me’ look at me theaters of fakeness. I am sure some of them make very rude comments about the women working at breastaurants wile eating there.
Some women thoroughly enjoy being sexy and its not a problem for them but I would imagine others like the pay but hate the job and many of the customers.
The beauty and fashion industry has been preying on women’s insecurities since like forever but one thing you will never hear from a guy is she looks nice but with a ton of makeup she would be gorgeous. I think in the entire history of men none of us has ever said that. Women look nicer in flip flops or barefoot then in $600 shoes.
Its just part of the world, we look at each other.
I have always been tempted but not reckless enough with my health to try steroids, kind of the male version of disordered eating to live up to those artificial standards of whats hot and whats not and beat the system. Steroids work, in a few months your a hunk years later your junk but it worked for A Schwarzenegger.
Proper steroid and gym regime maybe I could work at Chippendales but that’s not exactly one of my goals. In fact yuck no thanks.
a person does not have to be off all medications to show “complete recovery” from “mental illness.”
I believe I have completely recovered from alcoholism and addiction but I still party pretty hard sometimes if and only if I know its going to be a fun time. I guess that’s off topic a little but I am completely recovered but the psychiatric and AA version of recovery says otherwise. Maybe I should leave AA out of it they only suggest total abstinence but the psychiatric version calls it a relapse.
I am so brainwashed by the whole thing, do I post this? A few people know my screen name … He is not sober not in recovery he is still sick some would say.
That word recovery is so tricky.
Good one Sera, get everyone to search: Hearing Voices Movement and change Google autocomplete in the process. Well done.
Did it improve after 420 views of this ? HVM was the 3rd suggestion in autocomplete when I tried it.
420 views already I missed alot of people but everyone do the search like 10 times a day for wile till the HVM gets really stuck in autocomplete.
Help “Public Citizen” with their agenda take to away your benzos and force people on to mood remover pills nueroleptic injections.
We can pretend its grassroots wile we play on the AstroTurf.
Its OK we only got hurt with benzos who cares how much the people subjected to the “Public Citizen” forced drugging campaign suffer. Widespread Kidnapping Restraint and Injection for a whole lot of people, Sucks for them.
Only with less people then it takes to win an election.
I just read the whole thing again and ask myself are we talking about lab rats or children ?
Really get psychology and psychiatry the hell out of schools.
School is supposed to be learning to read, math history science social studies NOT be a damn mental institution and psychology experiment.
But since we a doing it anyway
“Already-existing interventions, on the other hand, seem to have been borne out of the deficit approach and assume that success involves getting stress-adapted children “to think and act more like children from low-risk backgrounds,”
Can’t we just talk in English ? How do we remove ghetto culture from kids instead calling self perpetuating ghetto culture “high risk backgrounds”
Maybe talk about this honestly and maybe teach kids that rap videos are stupid are designed to make you act stupid and so is covering yourself with cheap tattoos and stuff like that. TV ‘programming’ said looking and acting like a criminal looser is cool 1000 different ways. So they copy it.
Maybe teach kids how the brain washing dumb you down crap on cable TV works and why its like that ? Have a whole class on it.
No you have to sugar coat it “scientifically” so no ones feeling get hurt. Its not working.
Feelings hurt “waiting for moderation” is that next ?
An abusive boarding school made jail seem easy in comparison.
Strength I never wanted.
The dirt bike, the boat in a storm or just the waves big enough to make some fear = Good stress
“Insomnia is a symptom of depression” so treat depression is what kicked off my psychiatry pill nightmare. Then its anxiety (self explanatory) ADHD and bipolar the latter 2 I knew nothing about like most people, I knew nothing about any of this “mental illness” had no interest in it and was never around it or talked of it or knew anyone that “had” it. All I wanted was a go to sleep pill. Got 10 years of hell.
I remember getting told ADD or ADHD in the office and my thoughts were what the heck you say I have what the special ed kids have ? Then its explained an I am like I guess so. Then I was introduced to the amphetamine high, its awesome till it turns destructive. Pain pills screw that “nod out” how boring Dexedrine Focalin lets party.
All I wanted was a pill to go to sleep, I am not tired till way after midnight. I knew doctors had pills that worked better then that over the counter stuff. The world is set up for morning people and cheery and crap at 7 am jobs all want early birds.
Stimulants , Benzos, Remeron Zyprexa then psych hospitals sickness anxiety attack hell withdrawal hell a dozen times. All I wanted was a pill for sleep.
Life was good till I trusted those quacks stole everything send me to hell for 10 years.
The news media and television could be saving countless lives every day if they were running non-stop headlines about the dangers of drug mixing, but they are not.
On March 5, 1982, Belushi was found dead in his hotel room at the Chateau Marmont in Los Angeles, having been injected with a “speedball”, a mixture of heroin and cocaine. It became part of the culture or common knowlege that speedballs are death.
With today’s fake news the headlines for Belushi if that happened today would be “Another Opiate Death” maybe they would say something about other drugs being involved and the end of the article.
Notable deaths attributed to speedball use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedball_(drug)#Notable_deaths_attributed_to_speedball_use
10 Celebrities Who Died from a Heroin-Cocaine Speedball http://www.popcrunch.com/10-celebrities-who-died-from-a-heroin-cocaine-speedball/?img=166269
Celebrities who died from painkillers and heroin – CNN.com http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/health/gallery/celebrities-who-died-from-opiods/index.html
Then Fake news CNN goes on to list the people who died from speed-balling after its fake headline. Then of course when they get called out as fake news they headline is “Trump Supporters Call CNN Fake News” NO everyone is sick of you CNN. And controlled opposition Fox News all you mainstream monopoly clowns.
More than a quarter of overdose deaths in New York City involve mixing three drugs together, with the most common combination being heroin, cocaine, and alcohol. … Cocaine, alcohol, and benzodiazepines can be fatal when mixed with opioids.
“Benzodiazepines were found in 60% of overdose deaths involving Synthetic Opioids, 36% of deaths involving heroin, and 58% of deaths involving methadone in 2013. Alcohol was found in over half of the unintentional drug deaths during the last three recorded years” – New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene August, 2014
Keep calling it an “opiate epidemic” FAKE NEWS, you are killing people.
Protect yourself in advance http://www.bing.com/search?q=psychiatric+living+will
Its going to become a feedback loop snowball now with people Googling gabapentin and stories coming up that if you take alot it might get you high so then more people start abusing leading to more stories about people abusing it that more people find.
Smith said she misused gabapentin to give her energy and keep up with her 2-year-old daughter.
And google suggest was http://www.google.com/search?q=gabapentin+makes+me+hyper
I guess so. Has to be a lame high compared to real ones , I don’t care to try.
I read it and the title asks why are so many privileged people feeling so sick?
If we eliminate poor and average people and make everyone “privileged” maybe they will stop asking questions like that.
“no protection at all from corporations (and individuals) who do serious harm.”
I don’t pledge allegiance to any political system, that’s for extremist retards but the libertarians say the only role of government is to protect you from harm. They are the only ones without glaring contractions like the Democrats and Republicans so called “ideologies”.
Google says I got it right.
Anyway I won’t align myself with the “widespread” forced drugging people “public citizen” and their NAZI inspired plans to control undesirables with kidnappings restraints and injections. I just can’t do it.
I could tell something was up with that “W-BAD” from the very start with the deceptive vagueness, I know that technique from reading psych industry propaganda.
I could see they were mirroring what the war on pain patient opiate crew is doing, drug testing and databases turn your doctor into a probation officer that’s been a total backfire like you used either on a diesel but alignment with the forced drugging NAZIs, again like the NAMI’s patient lemmings who fight against their own rights. Count me out.
It is quite common to hear persons bemoaning the state of the family and of families in America. Is that just hype and rhetoric? Are American families really “disintegrating” today? Sadly, a lot of evidence seems to indicate that traditional American families are an endangered and disappearing species.
I read something that claimed Veterans PTSD is more about going from being in a tight unit like a family where everyone always has your back to back home to quite the opposite.
I remember the 70s and early 80s family keg parties and holidays everyone managed to get the time off, the ‘corny’ idea that most businesses closed on Sunday was still around. Wasn’t just my family the other kids had a lot of get together events too. School was different too, no surveillance cameras on the bus and the school building wasn’t designed like a prison and of course no drugging for so called ADHD.
I am not an anthropologist but who would have guessed all the advancements in communications , cell phones and Facebook would also lead to more loneliness ?
The opiate and mental health ‘crisis’ is not a result of the usual stuff it gets blamed on at all, we always had drugs and alcohol and ways to get them. Think of the rat park experiment. Plus we did not have mass incarceration, the drug war was just starting and they sucked at it wasn’t till the 90s US really became a police state.
Empathy-Based Medicine, sounds like a good start, things are such a mess, younger people can’t even see it, they have nothing to compare now to besides maybe old TV shows and movies I guess. Things were not TV show perfect back then lots of the same problems but was alot better then now.
How about an Empathy-Based DMV , code enforcement, property tax collectors, justice system and drug war instead of the cut your throat bleed you dry “just doing my job” system we have now ? We can have Empathy-Based everything. Seems like no one wants it.
Anyone who has waited in the ER for anxiety attack or anything psychiatric knows the never even bother asking whats wrong, whats going on in your life you are showing up here such a mess ?
Nope, sometimes its a wait and you might spend some time thinking up how you are going to coherently explain it in chronological order so they understand but its not happening, the nurse that takes vitals might be nice and listen but non of that gets addressed then its get in the gown and sit in a room alone for observation. That like fish tank kind of set up they have for psychiatric.
If your lucky you get the ativan, you cloths wallet and freedom and go home, sometimes you might get admitted if your anxiety is really “mania” , then the fun starts.
Very unlikely anyone is going to do much asking about whats wrong.
The leftists gave birth to today’s crony capitalism with their millions of rules and regulations making it so only big corporations with massive legal departments and all kinds of staff to keep up with them can survive. Companies like Walmart and Monsanto would never have dominated in a true free market without the endless leftists rules and regulations to suppress the competition.
“Written prescriptions for less than a 10-day supply will not be refilled.”
-the Massachusetts Benzodiazepine Bill.
This ain’t about warning labels, these people have another agenda are tapping benzo survivors to make the whole thing look grass roots same way NAMI gets their patient followers to fight against their own rights.
Well when your stuck in the insanity of withdrawal when they won’t refill your scripts or having an “all natural” anxiety attack try and act calm in the ER so the don’t sign you up for “widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs”
See how they just sneak that in there wile telling you the whole thing is about informed consent warning labels.
“Public Citizen” calling for “widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” Forced drugging
The whole Idea of working with “Public Citizen” the architects of “widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” brings me to > Nazi Collaborators http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Nazi_Collaborators
For a wile the NAZIs had an especially successful track record, they kicked butt at warfare and then there was that thing of the first ones in the gas chambers were the mental patients.
“Widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” is there anything more NAZI inspired then rounding up undesirables who committed no crimes for force drugging with Nueroleptics depot injects against their will ? Kidnap them , restrain them , inject them. Widespread.
Thats the problem with leftists, they have no honor, not for themselves or anything, they can’t even understand what the fuss is about.
I am trying to be polite and not spam up the comments but I would like to know why any psychiatric survivor would want anything to do with this “Public Citizen” organization when they are calling for https://www.citizen.org/documents/2330.pdf Page 12 “Public Citizen” calling for “widespread assisted outpatient treatment programs” Forced drugging, they are promoting psychiatry’s very worst human rights violation, why would we want anything to do with them ?
How could you stand in the same room with these people ?
What is this “Public Citizen” Friend of Edwin Fuller Torrey and NAMI
“He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas”
Anyway I solved the puzzle as to why no one cares if this benzo awareness thing lands more people on Anti psychotics , I did not even buy a vowel.
Fuller Torrey, NAMI …
“This initiative developed after speaking to the non-profit organization Public Citizen”
“Public citizen” gives Edwin Fuller Torrey a voice
Until Mental Health Services Are Improved, Tucson-Like Mass Murders Will Not End
Statement by E. Fuller Torrey, M.D. and Sidney Wolfe, M.D.
Unless two predictors of mass murder are addressed and changed, the United States will continue to lead all developed countries in the number of people killed by inadequately diagnosed or treated people with serious mental illness.
Ban those evil benzos but force those nueroleptics ! “Public citizen” typical Liberals nothing but hypocrisy and contradiction.
WHO: Moderator: Dr. Sidney Wolfe, founder and senior adviser of Public Citizen’s Health Research Group
Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, founder of the Treatment Advocacy Center
Dr. Azza AbuDagga, health services researcher of Public Citizen’s Health Research Group
“A joint report of the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill and Public Citizen’s Health Research Group.”
Not with a 10 foot pole “Public Citizen’s Health Research Group”
You want awareness ? http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/mental-health/
Lets see what you activist are made of, lets see one of you bring it there. Its worth 1000s of views and if done right could attract /create alot more activists. Me and that site battled. You will likely face opposition. This a job for someone besides me. They will resist, watch it or they accuse you of having an agenda and ban you. You have to infiltrate smart. Good luck.
Resistance if futile you will be assimilated… Just don’t tell them that.
Now I am in a heck of a spot not very nice to argue with someone who lost a brother to it. I lost my brother before I got well from this.
But suicide, what other drugs did they send him home on ? Its rare anyone goes home from treatment without a prescription for non benzo stuff. Stuff many will testify doesn’t exactly help. My case Zyprexa. I got suicidal from Revia (naltrexone) this was years before the stuff was well known. It was not for opiates, never had that problem, it was new the thinking was “it blocks the high” from alcohol that I used on the anxiety from the benzo disaster. I blocks the high but not the low is what I think happened that suicidal night broken windows and police cars. And the legal system hell that followed like they wanted me dead.
Benzo was my problem but “addicts can’t ever drink” we all know that one size fits all strategy. Sober or nothing.
I am stuck, I know that place home from treatment feel like hell the shame and guilt if you go back to it. I know this thing inside out from being in a dozen places and worked at one for a wile trying to help people get through it driving them to the ER so they don’t get the ambulance ordeal where they refuse to turn off the flashing lights bring a ladder truck for some reason and insist on making a big scene.
I feel like I should not be asking this but if they did not give him alternate benzos would he have stayed or said screw this and left ?
I have been though so much and know this thing so well but feel wrong questioning the conclusions here. Yes the cause of death is ultimately the benzodiazepines that lead to the entire course of events just like with me.
I will raise awareness, my experience has value years and years of it hospitals rehabs the other pills even worse for me and I kicked it when they all said I was hopeless unless I submitted to a life subdued by anti psychotics.
Sorry for your loss but I have to keep saying it, we can’t mirror the tactics used by the opiate raise awareness people without expecting similar results.
And a hassle at the pharmacy is “protecting my rights” how ?
Doesnt NAMI also “protect” patient rights ?
I will not be like a NAMI lemming and just jump on a band wagon or watch this group hitch their wagon to the psychiatric survivors human rights movement without asking questions.
I was reading the website before they edited the crap suggesting drug testing so a benzo patient is allowed their prescription.
Then I am told I read stuff wrong but the webcatch page proved otherwise.
The deceptive vagueness of that entire website is a red flag to me.
The “benzos are bad” theme led to me be handed that sample bottle of Zyprexa. At least on klonopin you can feel and enjoy life if they are not screwing with your supply.
You can’t just go around yelling benzos are bad at government types without thinking about unintended consequences , its reckless and dangerous.
Got any evidence to the contrary ?
I am not particularly liking my role today many might perceive as being a poo in the punch bowl on your benzo awareness day but I am skeptical. Sorry.
Why can’t it be explained in a public forum ? All this effort and a story on MIA and this person doesn’t even read it or go in the comment section.
That says alot.
It is not possible at this point in time to receive Social Security Disability benefits based solely on Drug Addiction. The Social Security Administration (SSA) will not grant disability benefits to people with disabilities that have been caused or worsened by addiction.
Typical word semantics games- addiction, dependency, iatrogenically ill. No difference what so ever. Zero Zilch Nada Nothing. Same poison, same effects and same results.
Why isn’t this W-BAD pushing to make it easier for patients to sue doctors that harmed them ? This is a battle between different factions of the psychiatric industry itself, legislation is fair game but suing and lawsuits is too below the belt for them. They argue but will almost always protect their own.
This whole thing is just AstroTurf posing as a grassroots campaign by benzo victims.
Let the doctors off the hook and stick the taxpayer with the bill through disability and make a few bucks at the same time with a new billing code to treat the condition they created.
(Anatomy of an Epidemic investigates a medical mystery: Why has the number of adults and children on disability skyrocketed…)
If the medical malpractice insurance industry got the bill doctor behavior just might change.
SECTION 6. Section 23 of said chapter 94C, as so appearing is hereby amended by adding the following 2 subsections:-
Some of us lived the nightmare of “sorry we can’t fill this” with that DMV style attitude of “just doing my job” that legislation always inspires. Sorry we can’t fill this you can always go to the ER if you are not feeling well…
How exactly is this 10 day thing “protecting our rights” ?
What happens if I go to ER and then doctor wants to give me under 10 day supply ?
“Isn’t the solution to get as far away from psychiatry as possible?”
Exactly ! I am guessing you smell it too.
I had long exchange with one them and I am very skeptical of their activities.
I see it kind of like Mothers Against Drunk Driving “helping” Alcoholics. MADD started all that show ID crap in America meanwhile in other countries without drinking ages they have fewer alcohol problems.
When does the benzo nightmare really rear its ugliest head ? When they screw with your supply. Who has real problems the first week after getting a new Rx ? Its that last week when the bottle is running dry or empty the nightmare begins.
“I am not stable enough now to be accepted at Pathways [another drug rehab center] and withstand further withdrawal…”
If these “W-BAD” people continue stirring up government types to “do something” about the benzo “epidemic” its very likely to mirror the war on pain patients that is also leading to suicides.
I think its likely Doug is dead because they “helped” him with his Xanax problem by cutting him off.
Are alcoholics better off after MADD declared war on alcohol ?
Are people with opiate dependencies and pain patients better off now with “awareness” and the government actions against opiates ? Friend of mine just died from fentanyl laced dope, I am sure he would have rather had dilaudid and not taken chances but they raised awareness of the pills and so.
Who is at the top of this “w-bad” organization ? I smell something like a NAMI and MADD structure tapping our energy for their agenda.
The Benzo Nightmare came real close to killing me wile it dragged me through an unimaginable hell, I should be all over this w-bad bandwagon making the most noise but I am very skeptical.
I am waiting to see if you get a response, I already had my exchange with them.
How many of these stories have to pile up on the internet before the mass drugging of the population experiment is declared a failure and is scaled back or just ends ?
It is a failure, more harm then good. I would not take part in this if I did not believe that to be true.
Meanwhile if the benzo hell ride takes you down the path to drug and alcohol rehab like it does many of us that path leads to AA and 12 step. I won’t bash AA, its actually a wonderful place cause most of the people know what hell is and have been though it but I will bash that unofficial rule that says don’t bash psychiatry .
That is correct I am not a doctor, gee thanks capt F-ing obvious as if the room believed I was a Dr but my story is my story and I am not sugar coating it for anyone.
I went from the frying pan of not being able to sleep without a drink to the raging inferno of Xanax Clonopin Remeron and then “ADHD” and Dexadrine and then Zyprexa ,,, a decade of indescribable hell ruined so much as a direct result of these “doctors”.
I should be quite psychiatry becuase is an “outside issue” ? F off , I will not.
What that S did to me and to this day with family or anyone back over 1000 miles away in the land of my old life the alcohol still gets the blame. I am still not ready to type into this website much of what happened but I took drastic destructive action to try and end the nightmare. I will just describe it as property damage no people or animals got hurt. I wrote try and end the nightmare but actually it worked. It changed everything, I knew my death was next, that time line had to be changed. Sorry for the vagueness that might just have people imagining something worse then what went down, a desperate act. “ssri stories” I was listening to this song and got inspired https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cov9nmNmXsg
“It is said that when a body hits the blue water, there under the Sunshine Skyway Bridge, the dolphins circle the body to protect it from being eaten by sharks.”
I was in that very spot July 4th about 11:30 PM alone in a small speed boat I went under the Sky Way going home after a party on the beach, been boating at night for decades most of it up north but I got spooked worse then in a long time being in unfamiliar waters black as ink, do I go to the left or the right of that green blinky thing ? Keep the Greens between me and the Gulf now where is the next one ? Thinking about those sharks, stingrays and sandbars with the razor sharp oyster-beds. OK motor now would not be a good time to act up, volts good and water pump stream looks good next pole green triangle stay sharp . I run a tight ship I am here typing and been to hell and back in this life I guess God looks out for me.
I was a little busy to give thought to the darker side of the Sky Way Bridge. I planned on doing a few bottle rockets by that bridge and listening to the cool echos from the reports bouncing off all that concrete but miles to go and that channel is not so easy to locate at night, that problem took priority. I admit it I was scared.
What I am giving thought to now is what I have said it before but I think its time for me to move on from this payback the psychiatric industry thing I do online. I raised alot of awareness, just one topic I made that I won’t name cause I don’t want people messing with it draws thousands of people to this website. I look for stuff online to post and find stuff I posted, I did alot.
I survived a decade in that horror of psych med hell, that indescribable horror that goes with the worst of it but I should “let it go” I hate that saying but I should. I am back I am me again with July 4th – boats – fireworks – booze… Back on the the sea the place I always loved even in the middle of the night on a small boat in a scary predicament.
“we must think of those we lost and be a beacon of hope for those who are in the darkness that is psychiatric drug withdrawal”
Well you can make it back from that darkness, I did. I don’t know what to write exactly that kind of messed me up that Skyway thing with the sharks and Dolphins I was just in that spot.
That beacon of hope, the green blinky thing the channel markers, in your journey through the darkness that is psychiatric drug withdrawal your channel markers are in your memory of what you were like before the psychiatric drug nightmare, going off course is thinking that state of withdrawal is a permanent condition.
I remember the clinicians with me using that word “exposure” to basically describe exposure to all that psychiatric poison in 2007 then Zyprexa and another round of high dose Benzo dependency to come off that that was even worse. I was Exposed to alot and Remeron a decade of ADHD drugs…and I am OK, you can be OK again. I am proof of that.
I know that space, that thinking in the hell of it “I will never feel OK again” its not true.
Come up for something for Zypexa olanzapine withdrawal micro tapering, I can’t even come up with a string of words to describe the wicked evil nightmare that is. I lived it when they gave me that poison to “help” with Xanax Xr withdrawal after 8mg to 0. Don’t worry it is “non addictive”…. Bastards.
Its all the anxiety insomnia hell of benzo withdrawal combined with the nausea vomiting effects of opiates plus this bad trip like terrifying psychosis. It goes on for weeks. Its pure evil. One thing in common with everyone who writes about it online is they use words evil devil wicked and hell.
Zyprexa victims don’t have the voice that people with the benzo sickess have but it is BAD S—-. For the full year of 2012, worldwide Zyprexa sales totaled $1.701 billion… Plus that olanzapine is generic now I can’t even guess how many people are stuck in Satans version of a rock and a hard place.
The rock is the Zyprexa anhedonia that robs your ability to feel pleasure from anything and the hard place is the hell inspired withdrawals.
A micro taper method for that stuff would make the world a better place for alot of people.
In the hospital that I went to twice with vomiting and panic attacks getting admitted the second visit that luckily was not overly abusive, it took 8mg a day of Ativan to combat the Zyprexa withdrawal. The tryed to give me Geodon I said get lost but there I was 5 months after kicking the Xanax Xr back on Benzos to kick the “non addictive” poison they gave me. Back to benzo dependency then 2 years later kicking benzos again.
And of course they tried pulling a “Part II” on me once again with the “non addictive” continuation but I knew better.
You can sue anyone you want, the question is can you win.
Its been my experience that hell must be payed and I don’t think there is any way to pay less. How many months in that state of like tolerance withdrawal is required to quit the “easy way” ?
I just still think the best way to beat the hell collector out of some of the pain of that withdrawal state is looking forward to and knowing a nice reliving dose is coming night and a complete break from it to get thoughts and reality back in order. Rest up and prepare for battle the next day.
I don’t know what the best way is for everyone but the worst way is when someone else dictates it and starts playing games with the Zoloft and Abilify or what ever there favorite concoction is.
Never once heard anyone in group say some crap concoction like Zoloft and Abilify was helping them in any way only complaints of side effects and the doctor being a moron looking things up on Google during the session.
I think/know a good drug to battle benzo withdrawal is Seroquel, alot of people absolutely hate it cause they were given too much, restless legs all night then zombied out the next morning… Its a weird drug in that less is more when used for sleep and I think its good for the end of the benzo battle. Keep it @ <= 25mg. Get all hungry zombie then eat and sleep. Trazadone is a toxic bad joke, Trazodone has a narrow "window" of sleep-promoting effect. That stuff completely sucks.
The people in detox would miss the "window" but not the other effects up all night pacing and miserable.
That micro taper would never work for me, I would start drinking to get right after being stuck in that state of half ass withdrawal for weeks.
And beware beware beware of this “non addictive” S— will help with the anxiety… And they send you down the road of Paxil, Cymbalta, Zyprexa, Lamictal, Zoloft, Abilify…
After going to rehab myself and living the “this ‘non addictive’ S— will help with the anxiety” nightmare then working in one and watching them do it to so many other people I named it “Benzo nightmare part II”
I never understood this logic: “You are mentally ill and need to take psych pills every day but not those benzos because they cause dependency and you will need to take them every day”
Wait what ?
“You are mentally ill and need to take psych pills every day but not those benzos because they cause dependency and you will need to take them every day”
So here is your “non addictive” Paxil, Cymbalta, Zyprexa, Lamictal … and its so “non addictive” you will get really sick if you stop taking it abruptly so check with your doctor before discontinuing this medication.
So here is your antidepressant that “helps” with anxiety. It helps anxiety so well even the pharma paid off FDA could not approve it for anxiety. It takes 6 weeks to “get in your system” (what “system” are they talking about?) anyway this crap doesn’t “work” for six weeks but we will just load you up on it now wile your body, mind and nerves that are already a mess from benzodiazepines withdrawal just to give it more to deal with and lots of fun ‘side’ effects.
And you are an “addict” and since we know addicts love to fly high, party and feel good here are some mood stabilizer mood remover pills to make sobriety feel even more flat, dull , tired and boring. When you go home and get sick of everything feeling flat dull tired and boring and drink or score some party drugs to overcome the flatness for a wile we will put all the blame on the “disease” of addiction.
Just watch out for the benzo nightmare part 2.
There is no painless way to do it.
“Quitting by the gradual withdrawal method. I discuss this method quite extensively in my seminars. I always tell how if there is anyone attending who knows a smoker who they really despise they should actively encourage them to follow the gradual withdrawal “cut down” approach. They should call them up every day and tell them to just get rid of one cigarette. Meaning, if they usually smoke 40 a day, just smoke 39 on the first day of the attempt to quit. The next day they should be encouraged to smoke only 38 then 37 the next day and so on. Then the seminar participant should call these people every day to congratulate them and encourage them to continue. I must reemphasize, this should only be done to a smoker you really despise.” http://whyquit.com/joel/Joel_01_13_gradual_withdrawal.html
The way I think best to quit benzos is to take that first dose later and later every day. No pain no gain. Don’t even play with the night dose and the insomnia till you make it through a full day without any benzo.
I lived the force you off benzos “for you own good” so many times and those clueless people usually, no always gave the last pill in the morning.
There is always hell to pay quitting benzodiazepines, one way or another either months of “minor” hell or a week of major hell, hell is going to get paid.
Pay hell during the day as long as you can taking minimal amounts till you can make it a whole day with none and continue to take a nice 2mg Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan or what ever you are up to … at night during that time. It makes it easier to pay off hell during the day knowing that nice relief is coming that night. Then as I already said when you have gotten to the point of doing your day without any then start cutting the night dose and maybe messing with other sleep aids.
Thats how its done. I got myself out of the benzo trap that way on my own the very last time no help from the “professionals”. I had to, supply running out and I was just was not playing that game anymore.
Be careful with the alcohol, it can carry you though a tough spot but the rebound seriously erases forward progress.
“And consider pursuing policies that promote equality for all Americans. You won’t just have a fairer society—you’ll also have a healthier one.”
Meanwhile in Venezuela where they tried those ideas – To the regime, you are either a socialist or you are dead. In fact, Maduro reaffirmed his position last week: “If Venezuela was plunged into chaos and violence and the Bolivarian Revolution destroyed, we would go to combat. We would never give up, and what we were not able to do with votes, we would do with weapons, we would liberate the fatherland with weapons.” http://www.euronews.com/2017/07/07/view-the-terror-of-life-in-venezuela-explained
Given the chance most of these make everything fair people would convert the United States of America to a third world socialist wasteland.
But one thing is also certain about modern capitalism: it is moving towards a rent-based, almost neo-feudal barbarism.
“The primary source of income and wealth inequality in this country is from homeownership. But far too many poor families are shut out of the opportunity to improve their lives because of big banks working hand in glove with the government. We have to change that if we’re going to combat inequality.” Thats a Bernie Sanders quote and I agree with that.
I think more liberty not socialism is the way to combat neo-feudalism, start by going after the zoning boards and the 1001 stupid pointless rules that make houses so expensive. Next stop those property tax people and their license to steal and extort.
Concrete blocks are 8 inches by 16 inches. If you were building a 20X50 building with 8 foot walls then you would need approximately 1,260 blocks and they are like $1 each
Only a few generations ago you just build a house, now with all the 1001 BS rules, taxes and financial scams most millennials are living with parents when they a plenty young and strong enough to easily build a home, those new tools in Home Depo are cheap and are so kick ass and they keep getting better. The housing system today is such incredible BS. Construction is so easy.
Homelessness should not exist.
And after everyone became “aware” of those evil benzos millions of people got put on Paxil, Zyprexa, Cymbalta, lamictal and the other chemical nightmares instead !
Epic long discussion on the last one https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/06/world-benzodiazepine-awareness-day-official-launch/
The odds overwhelmingly predict these people are going to make things worse the more they stir up the busybody government control freaks the same way the opiate prohibitionists created the war on chronic pain patients and turned their doctors and pharmacists into probation officers databases black lists and pee in this cup wile we look at your privates and all.
The last thing we need is the government types putting a virtual DEA agent in our doctors offices and practicing medicine with their “legislation”.
Not trying to be a troll here, I survived the benzo nightmare, I know alot about this. I say beware of benzo awareness day.
The American Psychiatric Association (APA), which includes more than 37,000 physician members, also called the bill “deeply flawed” . The organization, among several other prominent health groups, says it was not consulted during the formation of the new bill. “The Senate proposal represents a significant move in the wrong direction, resulting in fewer people having access to insurance, fewer patient protections and less coverage for essential behavioral health care,” said Dr. Saul Levin, CEO and medical director of the APA, in a statement. “We urge the Senate to reject this harmful legislation and start again on a health care bill that puts patients first.”
Translation: “We urge the Senate to reject this legislation and start again on a health care bill that puts the psychiatric industry first.”
“Our nation cannot afford to go back to the days when insurers selectively enrolled individuals to avoid financial responsibility for needed services. Nor can we afford to return to viewing mental health and substance use services as optional”
I would have rather got the bill for a few days of alcohol detox after very voluntary going to the hospital instead of buying more alcohol that morning to feel “good” for “just one more day” and got the the inpatient nightmare and false accusations of being bipolar, suicidal and the threats of injections when I refused their frighteningly high dose pill lobotomy. I lived the UHS nightmare > https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosalindadams/intake I lived the UHS nightmare as a direct result of having coverage.
Almost 4 weeks into the UHS kidnapping nightmare I called Mindfreedom, someone had passed the number to me about year before but I thought it started with 1-800 and it didn’t work but then I eventually thought to try starting with 1-877 and got through. The way David talked to these people was epic “Put him on the phone !!” when they talked to him with that authority voice he was having none of it. The results were epic too, the nightmare was over a day and a half later.
Thanks Again David for ending that nightmare, I don’t know how long that would have continued. If I ever fall into that pit of alcohol again and can’t crawl out I know to stay away from hospitals if I have “coverage” for mental health kidnapping.
I just lost an AA friend to a heroin or fentanyl overdose, had not seen him in a wile but we did July 4th 2014 together and I was with 2 of the same other people this last July 4th. I just got to thinking of that becuase the health care bill web pages on mental health all mentioning opiate addiction and lumping it together with so called mental illness.
Its possible it was that same fentanyl dope that another friend of mine from AA ODed on but lived about 5 weeks ago. I always see these war on pain pills articles on MIA and I think my friend might still be alive if he was able to get dilaudids and knew the exact strength and composition of what he was doing instead of using that street crap. I still can’t believe he did that, he was a smart dude.
Why is it that people with opiate dependencies who seem to be dying all around me can get treatment in unlocked nice places many very similar to vacation resorts yet people accused of mental illness get the locked inpatient nightmares cause they are a “danger to themselves” ?
I think trump knows all about the anatomy of the epidemic, psychiatry’s keep you sick scam, because he called out the vaccine autism link. How can you know about the autism vaccine link without knowing about the anatomy of the psychiatric epidemic ?
Hillary Clinton advocated biological psychiatry and drugs. She introduced New York University psychiatrist Harold Koplewicz, one of the most radical … https://goo.gl/fNFC5Q “Talking Back To Ritalin: What Doctors Aren’t Telling You About Stimulants …”
You can take this job and shove it.
The new healthcare crisis? Doctor burnout, thanks to paperwork. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/317233-doctors-are-increasingly-burnt-out-thanks-to-paperwork
Even the article photo is people staring at computer screens with piles of papers in front of them.
“This danger is invisible to some but familiar to the Poles — the steady creep of government bureaucracy that drains the vitality and wealth of the people,” Trump said. “The West became great not because of paperwork and regulations but because people were allowed to chase their dreams and pursue their destinies.”
The best “studies” are real world testimonials
Or of course just sign up for these forums and ask people what they went through.
The makers of Prevagen have been charged with making false and … The lawsuit seeks refunds for consumers who bought Prevagen. http://www.google.com/search?q=prevogen+lawsuit
Fake news channels love prey on the elderly with those irritating ads for this stuff.
US Children Diagnosed With Bipolar 72 Times More Often than Kids in UK https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/10/us-youth-diagnosed-bipolar-72-times-often-uk/
Stop The War On Chronic Pain Patients http://www.bing.com/search?q=Stop+The+War+On+Chronic+Pain+Patients
“Far more extensive and arguably even more torturous was the Motivation Attitude and Participation Program, in which “patients” were kept on the floor and not allowed to move a muscle for hours at a time”
But first of course these monsters gave them drugs known to cause akathisia and involuntary muscle movements.
A landmark victory would be the perpetrators going to prison. Justice would be inflicting the same torture on them they inflicted on others. So whats going to happen will they punish all the taxpayers by making them pay restitution for what these people did ?
I pay taxes all the time.
I guess it is a landmark victory when a judge can’t deny involuntary psychiatry is torture. Epic victory would be what I already wrote.
Clozapine is a dibenzodiazepine
Olanzapine (Zyprexhell) is classified as a thienobenzodiazepine.
A study has established that olanzapine and clozapine disturb the metabolism by making the body take preferentially its energy from fat (instead of privileging carbohydrates). Levels of carbohydrates remaining high, the body develops insulin resistance (causing diabetes). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3245588/
I was reading the fine print of the first Zyprexa sample pack and the doctor told me “don’t worry its safe” exact words.
Meanwhile if I put some lead or mercury in some cookies and said try one “don’t worry its safe” and that guy got half as sick as I did from Zyprexa I would still be in prison for poisoning him.
We can’t blame the idea for what some of these programs did.
Of course going out into the wilderness is going to help more then the inpatient psych lockup model where you just sit around all day being fed pills in captivity and getting told your a mental patient all day.
There is stuff to keep busy and endless visual input unlike inside a nasty psych facility and that keeps the mind from getting stuck in loops or circular thinking as psychology I think calls it.
I don’t have time to explain it but here lots of other people have http://www.google.com/search?q=modern+life+causes+mental+illness
The Psych Industry Has A Big Problem: They Can’t Figure Out How To Poison Black And Hispanic Kids At The Same Rate As Whites.
Doesn’t anyone around here know how to title a story ?
ADHD Wars Against Black Boys: Dr. Umar Johnson Details How To Combat Misdiagnosis Of The Learning Disorder
Dr. Johnson joined Roland Martin Wednesday on NewsOne Now to discuss his book, Psycho-Academic Holocaust: The Special Education & ADHD Wars Against Black Boys, the increase in misdiagnosis of ADHD in the Black community, how to combat the American education system’s use of ADHD, and behavioral disorders that stigmatize African-American youth. https://newsone.com/3107853/adhd-misdiagnosis-black-boys-dr-umar-johnson/
Dr. Johnson, is also a former school principal.
How can I make an intelligent comment when they don’t say what information they were after or what these guys were supposedly involved with. I could have been really evil like radiation or germs to attack civilians or just tactical military stuff like where they stashed some ammo for duking it out on the battlefield how do I know they don’t say why they were doing this torture stuff.
They did this ECT to a young woman I was in the hospital with, she just wanted to go home and go to some kids bar mitzvah and was all upset about missing it. She would say loudly “I hate this fucking hospital, I want to go home !!!” all the time. They did that ECT to her and she came back with this dazed look with this like smile stuck on her face. She was incapable of talking to us anymore. I don’t know if that wore off I had my own problems at the time.
I write on this website all the time but don’t mention that doctor that ruined years of my life, guy was my drug dealer amphetamines and benzos Anxiety and “ADD” I kind of did it to myself I really should have knew better but that dude effed up alot of lives including shocking that young woman who wanted to go home not get ECT.
We are getting through the screen of BS but its so slow. We almost got real NWO screwed it was supposed to be Jeb Bush Vs Hillary Clinton.
We are making a difference on the psychiatry front, I can tell by reading the 10 year old threads on those mental health forums and comparing them to the what people are saying now.
Its just so slow.
I know I don’t even know how to comment anymore this is so absurd and ridiculous. I tried to be cleaver with my stupid Pink Floyd comment but really.
Do we really need a computerized mental health analyzer to “detect” if a kid is anxious or depressed about something ?
Computerized screening solution as a way of e-x-p-a-n-d-i-n-g identification of depression and anxiety in children…
“After children scored positive on the initial screening, the algorithm indicated that they should be moved to “next-level assessment” and complete another screening tool.”
Leave them kids alone ! With your effing algorithms, we are humans at least some of us still are and we say things to each other such as how are you feeling ?
This is absurdity, the algorithm indicated…. 40 years ago this could have been a dystopian future movie plot with the computerized mental health detector for children and the brain chemical drugs.
Born with congenital heart and lung defects due to their mothers’ use of Paxil while pregnant. Thats the stuff of horror movies but meanwhile if you use the term “big pharma” in your writing your brushed off as a conspiracy theorist.
We don’t need no education
We don’t need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teacher! Leave us kids alone!
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall.
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall.
To the tune of “Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)”, Pink imagines a surrealistically oppressive school system in which children are put into a meat grinder.
Pink Floyd came out with The Wall in 1979 before they rolled out mass drugging for school children. Before 1980, the drugging of children on a massive scale was unheard of, even unimaginable. What most people could not envisage, however, was well within the imaginative scope of marketing departments of drug companies. In 1987, when ADHD made its debut in the American Psychiatric Association’s diagnostic manual (DSM-III-R), the authors estimated that only 1 in 33 children had the condition. Today, one in eight American children is diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
The authors of this study present a computerized screening solution as a way of e x p a n d i n g identification of depression and anxiety in children…
All in all you’re just another algorithm in – the – machine, in – the – machine
It’s just sick it really is.
“further away from Western society we look”
And who exactly is “we” ?
“Most grants to scientists and other academics at the university level come from the elite through their control of their foundations (see section on Philanthropy/NGOs). Because of this, the elite steer the direction of research by giving money for certain projects while not funding other avenues of research. All academics are dependent on these grants and are thus controlled lackeys for the elite.” http://www.globalistagenda.org/education.htm
What about those WHO studies showing that third-world countries had much better “schizophrenia” recovery rates than in the US/UK?
I bet those recovery rates are much much better third world, better then they admit to, one psychotic episode in the US say hello to psychiatric wasteland for a long time.
I am still on the globalist NWO kick, its fun, that website is pretty good but it should explain how psychiatry and the DSM bible is their atheist ‘religion’ and part of their world plan.
The online anti NWO crowd needs to be pointing psychiatry’s part in all this a little more.
Just in America 10,000,000 drugged school children, that is absurd. So OK study other cultures and what they do, what we do aint right.
Seems to me they just want to invade the third world and other cultures with the usual medicalization of every problem in life.
The whole goal of so called multiculturalism is to destroy the individual cultures and design one they want. Diversity is not the goal at all.
Part of the ongoing process of destroying all traditions, languages, religions, individuality, family, gender, traditions, morality, god to re-assemble society in the future as a boring blank mono-culture they can more easily control.
Depression is a biological problem and has nothing to do with the police state debt slave system that never stops screwing over millions and millions of people every year.
“You know that something is terribly wrong, but you can’t put your finger on what or why. Life shouldn’t have to be so difficult, so insecure, so insane. The United States, which at least pretended to respect human rights and freedoms, had deteriorated into a criminal empire and a police state. Our professions, corporations, and government seem to have abandoned ethics altogether. Pharmaceutical corporations have taken over medical practice. Lawyers pit every person against their neighbor. What ever brings profit is OK—as long as one is careful not to get caught violating any existing law. There is little cause for optimism. People do not enjoy their work. The brilliant popular music of the 60s, 70s, and 80s is dead. The mainstream media, in the hands of a few corporations, provides only meaningless entertainment, controlled information and a very narrow range of opinion.” http://henrylindner.net/Writings/Slave.html
Having fun today posting these “conspiracy” websites but lets be real if there is an epidemic of depression the cause is not the person but the society. I can’t stand the blame the brain for being sad if life sucks propaganda.
“We need to accept the challenge posed by diversity, provide the explanations it requires, and harness this information to build an improved set of encompassing theories about the development of the human mind.”
We NEED to… ? Why? Someone tell me why.
Welcome to The Globalist Agenda. Understanding the full context of the globalists’ vision is beyond the scope of this site. However, it should give you a solid introductory level understanding of their horrifying vision for the world. http://www.globalistagenda.org/
I guess they might need to do that.
I was stupid for believing it.
Woods, the 14-time major champion who had back surgery in April, was found asleep at the wheel of his Mercedes around 2 a.m. on May 29 and arrested on a DUI charge. A breath test registered 0.0 for alcohol, corroborating Woods’ claim that he had an “unexpected reaction” to prescription medicine.
DUI stands for DRIVING under the influence not SLEEPING under the influence.
This of course make no difference to the American police state where every citizen is seen as an ATM machine for them to hit up for revenue.
Wonder how much of our tax money these thieves will steal so they can enrich themselves in the process of fighting with Tigers lawyer.
Fla. man arrested for DUI in motorized wheelchair http://www.wtsp.com/news/weird/florida-man-gets-dui-while-driving-a-motorized-wheelchair/235084030
On behalf of Shire pharmacuiticals, an international panel of judges awarded unrestricted grants of €10,000 to the following patient groups in recognition of the impact of their innovative work during 2015:
• ADHD and School – HyperSupers TDAH France (France)
I knew searching Shire+ADHD+France would find some school to mental patient pipeline builders hard at work.
In the United States, at least 9 percent of school-aged children have been diagnosed with ADHD, and are taking pharmaceutical medications. In France, the percentage of kids diagnosed and medicated for ADHD is less than .5 percent. How has the epidemic of ADHD—firmly established in the U.S.—almost completely passed over children in France?
I started that thread above in the forums about the school to mental patient pipeline psycho pharma store front website “understood.org” and USA vs France after I saw an ad for that website on TV news and saw what it was.
That pharma front website “understood.org” is so disgusting, so fake, so phony don’t fall for the fancy clip art of smiling children and general theme of happy helpful joy joy but instead dig a little deeper and they are “partners with the child mind institute” founded by that guy Harold S. Koplewicz Paxil Study 329 co author
School to mental patient pipeline “Understood.org”
Advertising photography lighting techniques… every clip art portraying a happy drugged kid on that website looks like a smiling ray of sunshine, disgusting.
Meanwhile in the forums where parents talk to each other like usual nothing but the same thing “Psychiatric drugging never helped my kid but YOU should keep trying it on yours” don’t give up. Don’t stop and notice the complete lack of success stories, keep thinking your kid is the anomaly that got bad results and isn’t smiling like the fake clip art all over this pharma front website.
1912 Eighth Grade Examination for Bullitt County Schools http://www.bullittcountyhistory.com/bchistory/schoolexam1912.html
Are we raising the stupidest generation in American history? The statistics that you are about to read below are incredibly shocking. They indicate that U.S. high school students are basically as dumb as a rock. As you read the rest of this article, you will be absolutely amazed at the things that U.S. high school students do not know.
Instead of producing the leaders of tomorrow, our education system is producing a bunch of sheep that are trained to take orders and that are pretty good at taking multiple choice tests. http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/dumb-as-a-rock-you-will-be-absolutely-amazed-at-the-things-that-u-s-high-school-students-do-not-know
Its all by design, the ruling class wants the serfs as dumb as possible.
Why put all the effort to modify the schools to fit the children when we can attempt to modify the children with drugs to fit the schools ?
Everything most people think about addiction is wrong …
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I don’t think they should be turning colleges into mental institution, if someone has a problem get help off campus. Headline after headline the rising cost of college education
I want to send my children to college not an expensive mental institution, I have such a desire to use cuss words here but what the F ?????
Lets look up the defintion of college,
An educational institution or establishment, in particular one providing higher education or specialized professional or vocational training. ‘colleges of further education’ ‘I’m at college, studying graphic design’
Any of the independent institutions into which certain universities are separated, each having its own teaching staff, students, and buildings.
Where does it say includes on site mental institution ?
These “kids” mostly all have heath insurance so why the hell should any of the cost of a college tuition go toward paying for mental health services ?
Why don’t we have on campus dental services and abortion clinics too wile we are at it ?
Politics and the comments about it are so worn out after the 2016 election but the liberals won’t be happy till their nanny state socialist vision turns everything into a Venezuelan style “utopia”.
“More than 700 people have signed; many have left comments about their personal experiences trying to get counseling at college. “I’m signing because if a kid in crisis needs help they should not have to wait,” one wrote. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/surging-demand-for-mental-health-care-jams-college-services/
Go to the ER, go on Google and search out a doctor or counseling center that takes your insurance, WTF ?? If you have a damn tooth ache are you going to sign a petition and bitch about the lack of on campus dental services or go online and look for a dentist ???
So far millennials are the stupidest generation in history, Gen Z better wake up or we are all in trouble.
What about number of fatal infections rising after the discovery of antibiotics and shorter lifespans of diabetics after the discovery of insulin ?
Or adults admitted for depression: How do you feel now that your locked in here with no shoe laces and can’t have your morning coffee?
Unless you suffer from some sort of Stockholm syndrome it perfectly natural to feel like assaulting your abductors. I think this website needs more descriptive stories of the inpatient experience.
Anhedonia is the inability to experience pleasure from activities usually found enjoyable, e.g. exercise, hobbies, singing, sexual activities or social interactions. While earlier definitions of anhedonia emphasized pleasurable experience, more recent models have highlighted the need to consider different aspects of enjoyable behavior, such as motivation or desire to engage in activities (motivational anhedonia), as compared to the level of enjoyment of the activity itself (“consummatory anhedonia”).
Give me a break with more studies when every knows dopamine antagonists cause anhedonia. Anhedonia is evil, everything is just bla boring. I woman in AA I know was just prescribed that zombie death pill Zyprexa for sleep and anxiety and I was pissed. They did that to me years ago the zyprexa rob your soul treatment and the anhedoina that insidiously creeps in is a robbery of everything. Step on the gas in the car up a cool hill on a cool road and absolutely no “yee ha” feeling whatsoever nothing blankness, same with music favorite tunes come on and no wana move sensations at all its just bla nothing. I went to the museum of natural history back then on that zombie poison olanzapine and unlike prior trips that sense of awe and wonder just did not happen, would not happen just bla and a so what feeling. And of course when I quit that “non addictive” zombie poison from hell I got sick, real sick for weeks with all the symptoms of benzodiapine and opiate withdrawal put together.
If it was up to me Olanzapine Zyprexa would be banned and all the instructions on how to make it on computers would be erased and every book shredded or burned. Total eradication.
I warned that woman from AA or I should say who dropped out of it, I wanted to call up and bitch out her doctor then she tells me she asked for that drug so I asked – WHY ?? She said a neighbor recommended it, WTF !!! “He is an electrician” she tells me. I can’t stand the way people think electricians are smarter then the average person. I cringe when people imply that but that is a rant for another day.
Call that doctor and get something else to sleep, ANYTHING else. I am warning you you will get fat, zombified and then when you decide to quit you will get the withdrawals from hell, don’t take my word for it just search Zyprexa withdrawal and read the 100s maybe 1000s of testimonials that appear in search results.
“He is an electrician” oh please, memorized building codes and knows how to use an electric meter, not that impressive, I know how to do wires and electrical math too.
I personally know two people who have had non fatal overdoses in the last month, do the 12 step meeting thing for a wile and that happens.
Its horrible but I know the addict world but throwing the pain patients under the bus is not going to help. The gangs running the distribution are entrenched. This is going to continue no matter what the rules are for pain treatment. They have a whole system where the last part of the distribution is the addicts who have a contact get it for the end users in order to pay for their own supply.
Opiates are not my thing, alcohol always hit the spot for me but it only took that one experience of that spot being hit and feeling astonishingly better then before to get that drive to keep seeking it out. This business of being cheap with pain treatment is not going to prevent hardly any future addict from learning opiates are a fix for them and is going to have little effect on the supply available to them.
Maybe pharma and the medical mafia made opiates popular again but the cats out of the bag, you can’t stuff it back in.
On March 5, 1982, John Belushi was found dead in his hotel room at the Chateau Marmont in Los Angeles, having been injected with a “speedball”, a mixture of heroin and cocaine. If that happened today the fake news media would most likely report it as an opiate overdose and completely omit the cocaine part.
No need for a long comment when I can just post the link above to search results to “drug war fail” and the 100s of web pages that explain why.
The pain patient is the fat man. I guess the two people would be the “addicts” [people who use opiates for mental pain]
A trolley is hurtling down a track towards two people. You are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by putting something very heavy in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to you – your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and onto the track, killing him to save those two. Should you proceed?
Its tough in the real world, in an online chat just paste in a link to good page explaining the fraud of it all and its done, but one on one in the real world its not so easy my word vs the crap they have been told all their lives.
I try to remember to fall back on this,
“When you deprogram people, you get them to think…But keep them off balance and this gets them to begin questioning, to open their minds. When the mind gets to a certain point, they can see through all the lies that they’ve been programmed to believe. They realize that they’ve been duped and they come out of it. Their minds start working again.”
Saying stuff like:
I have heard 100 people tell me they have a chemical imbalances and otherwise broken brains but why is it no one can ever show me the medical tests they got to confirm these things ?
Or when they say anti depressants need time to “get in my system”.
What system are you talking about?
What part of that system does it get into?
Why does it stop “building up” after 6 weeks?
If that is how it works why does the fine print on every single psychiatric drug say the mechanism of action is unknown ?
At least if I get them to start questioning they might eventually see it for what it is.
I had a similar incident in a Seven Eleven and I did butt in.
I said how I took ADHD drugs and compared the feeling to cocaine and how I can’t believe they drug little kids with this stuff but it does feel good so much better then cocaine. Stupid cocaine lasts only 20 minutes if your lucky then you have to take more , the ADHD pills are so much better, the high lasts for hours and I can’t believe they give it to grade school kids. Back and forth between praising the high and pointing out how they push it on children.
I cant remember how it started but that lady worked in education and didn’t like me bashing it front of all those people. I also pointed out how most of the young people we see coming into treatment for addiction were drugged in school. Nice little discussion.
It is difficult to get through to people, a buddy dragged me to the 12pm AA meeting and the topic was fear and anxiety so of course I had to share about how ineffective the “non addictive” anti depressants are.
So I said how I just had to learn to deal with anxiety and how over time is largely went away. I joked how anti depressants are so ineffective in treating anxiety even the corrupt FDA has not approved most of them. I advised people who were newly sober to give themselves a chance and not confuse the way early sobriety feels as a permanent condition , it gets better.
It did not take long before someone else had a say and started with that crap that we are not doctors and medication helps some people.
Well too damn bad it hurt me and I will testify against it. Oh because it helped some people all the people harmed should be quiet ? I think not. I will say what I want.
Its been a wile so I forgot to just say at the beginning the stupid disclaimer; I am not a doctor and I guess the drugs help some people, to shut up anyone who wants to counter me with that and then tear into psychiatry full force and tell some of my story. I swear if that AA big book was written today instead of in the 1930s it would warn people about psychiatry.
I would love to go on MIA Radio tell my story and talk about drug and alcohol treatment centers how they push labels and keep you sick pills. The alcoholism and addiction to mental patient pipeline.
I will start with a disclaimer to shut up critics but next time the topic is something I can share about psychiatry on in one of those meetings I am going to pull no punches. I know more people in that room have been harmed then helped and I know they think the are an anomaly for getting harmed. Learning the truth about psychiatry and rejecting it is how I recovered, I will continue to share that.
How is this MIA radio going to work, can I send in a recording and if its cool would you play it ?
“But what’s really driving this is a societal expectation that we should all get eight hours of sleep a night, a pill is a way to go about it, and the willingness of some providers to accede to requests for sleeping pills,” Juurlink said.
The myth of the eight-hour sleep http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16964783
Delayed sleep phase disorder (DSPD) http://www.google.com/search?q=delayed+phase+sleep+disorder
Attempting to force oneself onto daytime society’s schedule with DSPD has been compared to constantly living with jet lag; DSPD has, in fact, been referred to as “social jet lag”.
All your life you will hear “If you just start getting up early at night you will be tired” but it DOES NOT WORK ! After days of getting up early you will get to the point you are so exhausted you fall asleep early ONCE and get a long sleep but then its back, that night your wide awake. “If you just start getting up early at night you will be tired” Please STFU with that !
I posted the Google search but the results are getting worse and worse with the treatments and bad information.
I have some Seroquel but only for when the world forces me be awake and asleep early which is not that often. I take half a 25mg and it works, hungry eat then sleep.
If more people knew about that diagnosis many like me would quit calling it insomnia and adjust their lifestyle to cut out the need for sleep and early wake ups instead of drugging themselves to sleep every night.
3. “What about suicide?”
” They found four such prophylaxis trials. They compared suicide risk in patients on placebo compared with patients on active medication. Two suicides (493/100,000 person- years of exposure) and eight suicide attempts (1,969/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the group given an active drug (943 patients), but no suicides and two suicide attempts (1,467/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the placebo group (418 patients). Based on these absolute numbers from these four trials, I have calculated (see Figure S1 showing calculation, and see Figure 2) that active agents are most likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo (95% CI 0.5, 10.00). Based on these absolute numbers from these four trials, I have calculated (see Figure S1 showing calculation, and see Figure 2) that active agents are most likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo (95% CI 0.5, 10.00). http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185 http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185 ”
They came up with that data when people were saying it was unethical to give study patients placebos !! I will be back with an edit when I find the article on that.
“OBJECTIVE: The authors’ goal was to investigate whether there is a greater suicide risk in the placebo arms of placebo-controlled studies of active medication for the treatment of acute manic episode and the prevention of manic/depressive episode. If so, this would be a strong ethical argument against the conduct of such studies. http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.4.799“
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It seems like from the news articles that setting precedents was much more important to this court then the actual case.
Here is the CNN Version http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/health/text-message-suicide-trial/ and that has links to some of the text exchanges.
Carter: “But the mental hospital would help you. I know you don’t think it would but I’m telling you, if you give them a chance, they can save your life”
Carter: “Part of me wants you to try something and fail just so you can go get help”
It really seems like this guy was holding her hostage with that I am going to kill myself stuff but at the same time I know that some BPD self harm chicks seem to screw with guys heads like it is a sport for their own entertainment.
“A Ridiculous Dose Of Antidepressants Made Me Emotionally Numb…
I’m a big f*cking feeler. Always have been. My therapist calls me “highly sensitive.” My mother calls me “oversensitive.” My exes call me a “drama queen.” …
I can’t even watch the news for five minutes without feeling like I’m losing my mind. The negative, harrowing images of our war-torn world, the slew of abused shelter animals staring at you with their massive pressing puppy dog eyes and the graphic stories of police brutality just feel like too much to handle. The disturbing visuals get burned into my brain, and I fixate for weeks, sometimes months, at a time…
I used to hate feeling so much. Life is so f*cking hard when you’re a walking open wound that lets in every tiny speck of dust. So about four years ago, I decided I was going to seek relief from my feelings…
Six to eight weeks later, I found myself with this unfamiliar ability to watch movies without shedding a single tear. http://elitedaily.com/life/emotionally-numb/1337606/ ”
Or get suicidal text messages and not shed a tear ?
I know how some “drama queen” cutter chicks can act but I agree with Dr. Breggin she was emotionally blanked out by the drugs and that lead to the outcome, if she had the full range of her natural emotions this would have been different.
$489 million in bribes… How many doctors and healthcare professionals are in China ? China is a real populated place but half a billion dollars is alot of money too.
Big Pharma bribes India doctors with vacuum cleaners, cookware…. http://www.naturalnews.com/037268_Big_Pharma_India_bribery.html
Despite everyone’s “best intentions,” the river of psychopharmacy was making its path through the global south…
I have read every single article on MIA for the last several years I know how the psych pharma industry operates.
“The pharma giant has forked over $20 million to the agency to settle charges that it violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act when its China arm used travel agencies to funnel $489 million in bribes to local doctors and healthcare professionals.”
GSK hands SEC $20M to put China bribery charges to rest http://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/gsk-hands-sec-20m-to-put-china-bribery-charges-to-rest
They do the same thing in India for sure.
“in the process of selling our McMansion in the suburbs of Maryland” Cool !
Have you ever considered this way of getting “off grid” http://www.boattrader.com/search
Nothing is as self sufficient as a sailboat. They usually have those little electric windmill generators and a solar panel. A small reliable diesel and of course the sails. And even at the dock they are cool tiny homes.
“a negative association with barriers to housing and services”
I live back in the woods, you see
My woman and the kids, and the dogs, and me
I got a shotgun, a rifle, and a 4-wheel drive
Country folks can survive
I can catch catfish from dusk ’til dawn
We make our own whiskey and our own smoke, too
Ain’t too many things these old boys can’t do
We grow good old tomatoes and homemade wine
Country folks can survive
Because you can’t starve us out
And you can’t make us run…
Most Americans think that miles of machine-planted row crops and crowded feedlots are required to feed everyone—that without large-scale, industrial agriculture, with its chemical inputs and GMOs, we would all starve to death. https://www.smallfootprintfamily.com/how-much-land-is-needed-to-be-self-sufficient
How much land do you need to feed a family? http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2013/03/how_much_land_d.html
That quote could easily describe my attitude of those screw the systems barriers trying to make me a debt slave but my attitude is also I don’t need those people and nobody does its just sad how schools teach zero real life skills such as how to fix simple machinery or how to do construction. I think it is intentional, I think the “new world order” absolutely wants a population of helpless retards dependent on the system where every little problem calls for a “professional” and “licensed installers”.
I am not saying we should all be Alaska Bush People I am really really trying to express how the complete dependency on the system causes stress and mental health problems.
This couple I know right now stressed out of their minds with money problems had the electricity cut off. I offered them a big deep cycle battery I have so they can run a decent fan, their laptop ect. It just takes a the cost of a few electric bills to buy a fat battery, a 12 volt fan and 2 standard solar panels and that’s it, done, for years you have a fan blowing on you at night when if its hot and you want to sleep and the next day it simply charges up again.
They have a car that I just repaired by the way and so OK then use my battery to run your fan and use the cars charging system to charge it with jumper cables or charge it at a neighbors who has power and STOP having a damn neurotic mental breakdown over the power being shut off !!!
Battery holds 210 amp hours, how much power do you need ??? Give me a break.
I don’t know if I am debunked yet, read the above article and it says “Millions of disabled workers across the United States rely on Social Security Disability.”
What does “disabled workers” define ?
Farmers topped the list revealed by provisional statistics from the Health and Safety Executive.
Working with heavy machinery, livestock and large vehicles all contribute to making this the most dangerous profession in the UK. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1670085/what-are-the-uks-most-dangerous-jobs-farming-top-the-list-of-occupations/
According to the International Labour Organization, more than half of the 335,000 workplace fatalities around the globe occur in agriculture, making farming one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. http://wqad.com/2014/09/24/why-farming-is-one-of-the-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-world/
More from “Harvard Public Health”
They are slim boned, long limbed, and have very little body fat and little muscle. Ectomorphs tend to have fragile, delicately built bodies and find it very difficult to gain weight or add muscle.
But its perfectly OK for fat ass people to constantly badger thin people and suggest they eat more while they shovel down plates full of bacon and food with alot butter on it.
“Forcing ‘picky eaters’ to try food they do not like ‘makes them more likely to become anxious’ Researchers find anxiety caused by food neophobia – the fear of tasting new things – could be made worse by parents frustrated by ‘picky eater’ children
The study suggests it could lead to the youngsters growing up to be anxious adults with low self-esteem. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11828931/Forcing-picky-eaters-to-try-food-they-do-not-like-makes-them-more-likely-to-become-anxious.html
You need to “finish your plate” said the fat ass to the Ectomorph who can never gain weight always told your too thin (No one has a problem with that).
But try suggesting to a big fat ass to leave some food on the plate and it is “body shaming” and they get all insulted.
I am on a sea food diet said the fat ass, I see food and I eat it.
With the news now shining a spotlight on the terrible plight of America’s deprived neighborhoods, some people say, “Why don’t they just move out ? Problem solved.”
However, this is a perspective that fails to recognize that lack of upward mobility is one of the defining aspects of a deprived neighborhood. There are massive barriers that prevent people in poverty from creating their own businesses, or even working for other people even if they do move. These barriers come in the form of regulations, which require a long list of permits, licenses, and endless non stop expensive complicated bullshit paperwork to hire people and conduct any business except of course in the drug trade that thrives. Over-criminalization of things that are not actually crimes plays a huge role in this lack of upward mobility as well.
We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. – Albert Einstein
Gee thanks Mr Big Brain but how do you stop people from voting for Democrats who love making endless BS regulations and the Republicans who always want a police state ?
I think poverty only causes psychosis in cities, living in poverty in the countryside is a different experience.
Does City Life Pose a Risk to Mental Health?
Recent studies shed light on the link between urban living and psychosis https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-city-life-pose-a-risk-to-mental-health/
People living in rural areas of Britain are more optimistic about the future and happier about their quality of life than people in cities and towns, a new survey has found. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2458600/People-living-countryside-happier-optimistic-towns-cities.html
The study is also somewhat flawed because it is part of the culture in Deprived Neighborhoods to get as much as you can from the system. I met a guy who faked mental illness to get SSI. He had this long phony tale based on astrology planets and dates and numerology he used to get a psychiatric diagnosis and the payments that go with it.
Why not cheat them, at least it deprives the government of money they might use to build more prisons and do police state things. Ironically this was before the death of Eric Garner and the guy I met who cheated SSI with the mental illness tale was also in trouble for selling loose cigarettes.
The city just sucks. Everyone thinks they have the political solution to fixing those areas but it is always an epic fail. Someone should create a detailed escape plan that people could use to get away from them. All the way back to antiquity people abandoned failed cities, many of the ancient ruins are still around, and I think today that migration is still the best solution.
I like the sound of that. You might like this video.
300 Manowar Die with honor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PILonpKOUVI
The 300 psych survivors spreading the truth vs the massive well funded marketing army of psych-pharma propagandists.
Are there even 300 of us doing this ? Well we are winning, very slowly but winning.
I just don’t have time or the will to burn mental energy needed to attempt to define anti psychiatry.
Its easier to just say something like “the movement for human rights and informed consent in mental health” if I have to name what we are doing.
Takes a few extra keystrokes but it is not that difficult.
“restore basic inalienable human rights to the field of mental health, including, but not limited to, full informed consent regarding the medical legitimacy of psychiatric diagnosis, the risks of psychiatric treatments, the right to all available medical alternatives, and the right to refuse any treatment considered harmful. ”
Copy paste works too.
When members finally got back to work, management enforced a new drug-test policy that’s wreaked havoc. Drug Tests Followed by Steelworker Suicides
Dragich says about 150 workers tested positive. Dan Simmons, Local 1899 president, said 67 workers were forced into “last-chance” agreements. Any presence of drugs—or alcohol—during subsequent tests meant discharge.
About 10 workers were quickly fired, Dragich says. One of them, craneman David Doris, killed himself.
My Story: Drug Tests and Pain Contracts Violate Patient Rights http://nationalpainreport.com/my-story-drug-tests-and-pain-contracts-violate-patient-rights-8824576.html
Debra Silvestri slipped into the women’s bathroom at the district courthouse, pulling a plastic bag full of sedatives and antidepressants from her purse. Her lawyer had just told her the judge was thinking of sending her to a women’s prison because a court-ordered test showed she had been drinking.
Then, she took a seat at the front of the courtroom. One hour into the session, she slumped over, eyes closed. Two women sitting next to Silvestri grabbed her to keep her from falling to the floor.
By the time the ambulance pulled up to the emergency room, it was too late. The medical examiner ruled her death a suicide. https://apps.bostonglobe.com/spotlight/the-desperate-and-the-dead/series/courts/
The “we gotta do something” response to the so called opiate problem was a total backfire, pain patients one faulty cheap ass made in China drug test false positive can have an atrocious impact on their lives yet the intended result of stopping or slowing the so called opiate epidemic failed.
But I am supposed to believe that with using the exact same alarmist tactics to stir up the control freaks in government we won’t have the similar results. Nothing on this we bad website to convince me of anything else. I did look. I really did, I read almost every page.
At first do no harm is not just for doctors.
*All this WILL NOT change the world but only give us more of the same forms of human oppression while defending the status quo.*
In all of human history nobody has mastered the art of human oppression better then the lefties.
Under modest estimates, the deaths under socialist-inspired societies reach 100 million people, their lives destroyed by a completely failed ideology,
Epic fail every time but they tell us this time it will be different. Ignore history give it one more chance. I guess it is getting better they have moved up from producing mass murder and now we only seem to get the mass starvation part.
Hungry Venezuelans killing flamingos and anteaters for food …
Miami Herald-Feb 10, 2017
Venezuela food shortages cause some to hunt dogs, cats, pigeons
USA TODAY-May 18, 2016
Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out
PanAm Post-May 4, 2016
Pets starved, abandoned as Venezuela economic crisis deepens
Chicago Tribune-Sep 7, 2016
Heartbreaking photos show Venezuela’s abandoned dogs
Washington Post-Sep 26, 2016
Starving Venezuelans dying for eating poisonous yuca sold in black …
Fox News-Mar 23, 2017
Starving Venezuelans dying for eating poisonous yuca sold in black … and Punta de Araya families got through the summer by eating “dog …
Story image for venezuelans eating cats and dogs from National Geographic
Animals Starving in Venezuela Zoos
National Geographic-Jul 28, 2016
You don’t understand the libertarian philosophy at all.
For example most of you don’t understand it is the democrats and liberals who make 10,001 different rules to do business in this country and then bitch when the big corporations monopolize everything becuase they are the only ones who can dedicate a massive legal department and other staff to dealing with BS government rules and regulations.
For example Universal Health Services can abuse inpatients all day long cause few lawyers want to go up against there massive legal dept. Why are there so little choices for mental health care outside the big pharma psychiatric model ?
Was it libertarians who made 10,001 different rules and regulations to make low capital startups almost impossible or was it the liberal democrats that insist on government micro management of everything with 10,001 stupid expensive rules to shut out the little guy ?
Obamacare in network or out of network as long as it is government approved on size fits all bio psych pharma model treatment.
Typical BS from left about that evil 1% followed by support for the very policies that allow it to happen. You create the conditions then complain about the results.
Venezuela’s child malnutrition crisis grows BBC 16 hours ago http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-latin-america-40130224/venezuela-s-child-malnutrition-crisis-grows
*Sorry, but the victims of this drug don’t bear the responsibility of psychiatry’s and pharma’s failings.*
Once we step in and alter course of events we do bear that responsibility. I won’t push that innocent patient with panic disorder or the chronic pain patient over the bridge like in the trolley dilemma to protect people like me that should have got on there damn computer and typed in Xanax and did a little reading.
My world is reality, good luck with your utopian fantasy where government protects everyone from everything and no one has to take any responsibility for their own well being.
*The victims of these drugs aren’t going to be silent like you’re asking us to (and essentially trying to guilt us into).*
*Or we can just sit by like you propose*
The trolley problem is a thought experiment in ethics. The general form of the problem is this:
There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. However, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You have two options:
Do nothing, and the trolley kills the five people on the main track.
Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person.
Which is the most ethical choice?
As before, a trolley is hurtling down a track towards five people. You are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by putting something very heavy in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to you – your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and onto the track, killing him to save five. Should you proceed?
You are fighting against the over prescribing of benzodiazapines and opiates, you know that your method of action will make some groups of innocent patients suffer who otherwise would not have but it may save a larger number of other patients from suffering, should you proceed?
This is absolutely political.
Incrementalism is a process whereby society is slowly engineered and our rights and freedoms are slowly eroded over time so that we don’t notice it’s happening and are led to believe change is necessary on only one item and this change is not related to other changes. In the short term the changes are almost imperceptible, but look at the last 30 years.
I remember being under 21 buying a bottle of alcohol, going to the airport and getting on the airplane with no psycho ID checks, smoking in the terminal before getting on the plane and drinking the little bottle I brought with me and going to the back of the plane to find an empty seat in the smoking section to have a cigarette.
It was all different, people were happy not like now the airport experience now people with stressed out looks on their faces navigating through some kind of sick hybrid of a police state and a cattle farm.
How does it work now ? Not enough seating prepare for a beating – United Airlines . Argue with a ticket agent about passport rules get hauled off to a psych torture facility like this story points out.
Maybe a ignorant millennial that never saw the world before the incrementalism process eroded all our rights has an excuse to question whats political about this story but the rest of you should understand.
Tell a millennial how before the mid 1980s most states driver licenses had no picture, at first they don’t believe you, how could the world possibly operate without show ID mania ? Well it did, the world was just fine. Many would argue it was better back then.
“We aren’t responsible for all of the problems in the world or that psychiatry has created.”
So you are just going to hyper-focus on psychiatry’s use of benzos ?
Consequences fan out in all directions over time. Life is like playing piano with oven mitts on. You go to hit one just one key and others get hit in the process.
Patients in doctors offices everywhere – Oh great they won the war on Benzos now instead of Klonopin I can get Paxil and Lamictal and Effexor and Cymbalta and Zyprexa and Depakote instead , yippy !
Patient in ER with panic attack — What the hell they won’t let me go home ! The benzo drug that would made me feel better in 20 minutes has been demonized so now I get sent up to psych for a strip search followed by forced pill experiments with Paxil and Lamictal and Effexor and Cymbalta and Zyprexa and Depakote or what ever shuffle and drool zombie drug nightmare is on the attending quacks menu instead , yippy !
Innocent evil is moral philosophy’s hardest problem. People with the moral intentions yielding immoral consequences.
Just how does one comprehend complete contradictions ?
Its like trying to understand those politicians who say we need gun control to protect children and increased funding for abortions, not the kind of people I want legislating my medical treatment.
“To encourage the establishment of a mandatory maximum prescribing period of no more than 4 weeks of regular use”
But then you contradict your own statement on the same page: “W-BAD does not seek to restrict access to these drugs for those who feel that they may benefit from them”
You can’t have mandatory prescribing laws handed down by governments practicing medicine without a license and at the same time not restrict access to these drugs for those who feel that they may benefit from them, so which is it ?
“If you think a third degree burn patient on an IV morphine drip in the hospital is the same as a heroin addict”
Go ahead and don’t reply. Its you war on drugs people that will turn that burn patient into a heroin addict when he or her is in pain and can’t get medication because you people turned his doctor into a probation officer complete with drug tests, databases, and a DEA agent between him and his treatment.
I don’t know I never got your clear definition of addict.
“I don’t plan to interact with you further, so have a great day”
A: I’m an expert. How dare you question me? You are obviously anti-child and anti-progress. This interview is over. http://www.brasscheck.com/druggingkids/
“Clear definitions” It always ends the same way.
“People are using w-bad to share their stories in a collective nature to warn others about prescribed benzodiazepine dependence and withdrawal”
That’s backwards, w-bad is using peoples misfortunes to turn doctors offices into probation departments with drug tests and patients into suspects including logging them into databases. Its just the benzo version of the war on pain patients.
“Clear definitions” that was funny. I like laughing, please sir can I have some more clear definitions ?
Nice job avoiding the topic of your fabricated difference between a physiological/physical dependence and an addiction. I knew you couldn’t handle that one.
“If you can’t understand the fundamental differences between a physiological/physical dependence and an addiction with clear definitions”
There is no difference, anyone can make up definitions label them as “official” to try and define things into existence. Psychiatry’s diagnostic criteria are literally voted into existence and inserted into the DSM and that is exactly what you are doing.
You people just like that addict definition for some people over others to press your drug testing and continuing stigmatization of so called “addicts”
* Myself, I lived in tolerance withdrawal for years (not knowing what it was) and saw the same treating MD the entire time and never “hit the streets” *
Don’t lie to me, you knew increasing the does would solve the tolerance withdrawal. Don’t even try and tell me that for years you never ever took an extra pill or took one early to feel better. Don’t even try that one.
You only had “physical dependence” for saying please sir can I have some more to the medical mafia like a little sheep but I am an “addict” for realizing they were screwing me over and procuring my own supply to avoid pain of it? Give me a break.
I guess there is a “medical” and psychological difference between an alcoholic that buys from the store vs one who makes his own moonshine too.
“If you don’t like our organization, don’t participate.”
It doesn’t work that way, sorry. Your not going to hitch your wagon to the human rights in psychiatry movement wile pushing drug testing and turning doctors offices into probation departments , that’s not happening.
Patients in doctors offices everywhere – Oh great the neo temperance movement fanatics won the war on Benzos now instead of Clonopin I get Paxil and Lamictal and Effexor and Cymbalta and Zyprexa and Depakote instead , yippy !
I used to live in California and bring my AA friends to the CCHR headquarters and psychiatry museum in Hollywood. They were very nice and never tried to recruit us or even mentioned Scientology. It was a long trip but I always had a base with friendly faces and a place to park before heading out into town. I know it is very irritating when criticism of psychiatry is labeled Scientology, it really is, but I had no reason to stay a million miles away.
“ADDICTION AND PHYSICAL DEPENDENCE ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS”
Physical dependence, tolerance and addiction are discrete and different phenomena that are often confused. Since their clinical implications and management differ markedly, it is important that uniform definitions, based on current scientific and clinical understanding, be established in order to promote better care of patients…
“based on current scientific and clinical understanding” THAT made me laugh , I am actually laughing right now after reading that.
Studies show people will believe anything if you say studies show before saying it.
I went to rehabs and the worked at rehabs and have seen 100s of people stuck in the benzo trap, when those withdrawals hit the behavior is exactly the same – get more. Buy from street or get from doctor the pills do what the pills do. I have stayed up all night with them driven them to the ER, I know all about this.
You people remind me of that front for the temperance movement M.A.D.D that ushered in the show ID police state war on fun. Now instead of drinking beers kids do more drugs, nice work “MADD”
Whats going to happen when you win your war on benzodiazapines ?
More people subjected to Paxil and Lamictal and Effexxor and Cymbalta and Zyprexa and Depakote there is not even any warning on that website about doctors switching people from the benzos (that work if they don’t screw with your supply) to the “non addictive” chemical nightmares that have withdrawals “physical dependence” as opposed to your “addictive dependence” that are “are discrete and different phenomena” wile you are up all night and vomiting.
I think we really do need a Beware of Benzodiazepine Awareness Day.
Beware of Benzodiazepine Awareness Day http://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic196789.html
Patients in doctors offices everywhere – Oh great they won the war on Benzos now instead of Clonopin I get Paxil and Lamictal and Effexxor and Cymbalta and Zyprexa and Depakote instead , yippy !
I know it is just so wrong what they do on so many different fronts.
Before it happened to me I was just like most of the public that believed the psychiatric nightmare could never happen to me. How could it possibly happen to me ?
No it really happened, Intake strip search lockup and told if I did not subject my body to their nerve toxins posing as medicine I would be assaulted body penetrated with needle and sent to state hospital. Forced drugging is a rape, toxins in my body changing up its internal workings, heart rate breathing, muscle control and ability to think. A side effect of many of the drugs is “death”, remember the Abilify ads, so its rape and reckless endangerment.
At first do no harm.. Not with those quacks.
Explaining the abuse is easy, it is an atrocity, the hard part is explaining to readers “I wasn’t crazy” and they did all this shit to me anyway. It like a cheap plot to cheap movie, sane but labeled insane but until lived it in real life I never could have imagined this atrocity astonishingly called help even existed in a civilized society.
What ever, like many other people I will keep donating time every day to exposing psychiatric lies and abuses till whats left of their credibility is gone. They can’t survive on a lie in the age of the internet.
The new Nero will approach us with the silky manners of a doctor, and though all will be in fact as compulsory as the tunica molesta or Smithfield or Tyburn, all will go on within the unemotional therapeutic sphere where words like ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ or ‘freedom’ and ‘slavery’ are never heard…
Even if the treatment is painful, even if it is life-long, even if it is fatal, that will be only a regrettable accident; the intention was purely therapeutic…
But because they are ‘treatment, not punishment, they can be criticized only by fellow-experts and on technical grounds, never by men as men and on grounds of justice…
C. S. Lewis, “The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment”
Ways to Report Health Insurance Fraud – http://www.wikihow.com/Report-Health-Insurance-Fraud
Billing for treatment that is not medically necessary can constitute fraud. And for patients themselves, who are needlessly held in locked facilities, the experience can be devastating. https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosalindadams/largest-us-psychiatric-chain-faces-widening-investigation
6 Questions You Should Ask Before Paying Any Medical Bill http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2014/09/08/6-questions-you-should-ask-before-paying-any-medical-bill
A bill for an unwanted psych lockup is really just kidnapping and extortion. What a criminal scam this is when the same people deciding who is ‘sick’ and who is well are the same people making millions by keeping the beds full.
UHS hospital kidnaps 6 year old
In his testimony, Marion described being strapped down to a gurney, a nurse hovering over him with a needle, then injecting him, “like in ‘The Cuckoo’s Nest,’ ” referring to Ken Kesey’s novel about a psychiatric hospital from hell. Comparing himself to “Louima,” as in police brutality victim Abner Louima, Marion said, “They used a toilet plunger for him and a needle for me.”
Quit the rat race. Its still possible. You don’t have to live by the official plan ie Neo-feudalism. The choice is all yours. I live off the grid, I have very few bills. Cutting cable is a good start I have very nice Wifi antenna. WIFI is free for the taking, you would be surprised. Go ahead and pay $1500 a year for rot your brain cable TV not me.
Have you ever wanted to be free of the stresses of your present life ? Ever considered breaking out on your own and living independently ? http://www.google.com/search?q=off+grid+living
I could do a long rant on how our screw you over big brother police state society sucks but most peoples misery is self inflicted and they don’t even know it.
It makes no sense that these hospitals use forced drugging and threats.
The goal is to keep the beds full and collect 100s of dollars a day therefor they should like people who refuse to be drugged into zombie oblivion if that is the only thing that will help them recover from what ever state they are in. A longer stay is more money. They love dat money !
(UHS saw improvement in its net revenues during the third quarter. The psych hospital chain said its net revenues increased 9.3 percent to $2.2 billion in the third quarter of FY 2015 compared to the same period 2014. UHS also saw its net income jump 81.5 percent year over year, increasing to $150.3 million in the third quarter of FY 2015.)
Seems to me they can’t help people get through what ever is going on with them with out the disable you with drugs part cause it would blow the whole very profitable FAKE narrative that the only way to “recover” from emotional distress is to be a lifetime consumer of psychiatric drugs.
“Our goal is to assemble as many plaintiffs as possible so that we can engage the best lawyers and approach the courts as a team effort. You have nothing to lose, except the fear, pain, and anger you have felt since they abused you.”
I just helped with that, a link to the site posted here http://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic196722.html
Oops wrong story.
“I still have not had a hearing, although by law I should have had one within five days of being hospitalized.”
That was my argument for a lawsuit. Of course they needed my medical records but when I called they would transfer me to a voicemail and no one ever called back. It cost me $120 to hire a paralegal and she got some of the records. Of course it did not include that drug cocktail of 800mg Seroquel, Trileptal and Haldol. Three drugs at the max daily dose adds up to an overdose in my book. I never got the standard medication for alcohol withdrawal.
Anyway I have this idea that could be a major thorn in the side of the psychiatric industry, a do it yourself fill in the blanks lawsuit kit. How hard could that be to create? They consistently violate people in the exact same ways.
I bet a webpage could be created with questions with fill in your information and what happened text boxes. Was your hearing held on time ? Were you threatened with needles and violence ? Were you assaulted ? A little java script and a print ready lawsuit to file is made. Detailed instruction on the filing process would also need to be included.
The most common thing I heard in that hellhole posing as a hospital was people saying “I am going to sue this place” in an attempt to have their rights respected. Staff knew as I found out its not so easy. I should have won a lawsuit, no hearing = false imprisonment but none of the lawyers I sent my medical records wanted to take on the UHS legal dept that I am sure is massive.
A do it your self lawsuit kit would allow victims to make them show up in court and win or loose it would cost these “hospitals” time and money.
They were assaulting ‘patients’ right in front of the video surveillance. If the atrocities I saw in that hellhole were put on YouTube it would go viral like the famous police brutality videos. That was one of the hardest parts of my nightmare having to stand by and watch others assaulted by staff without stepping in to defend. Its like a natural reaction to defend when you see someone attacked but it would have been useless and I would have been subjected to that nerve toxin needle penetration rape if I stepped in and I need this body to exist. Permanent neurological damage is serious shit. I have read many stories online about the neurological damage from victims of inpatient needle assaults.
Did you seek mental healthcare voluntarily, but then find that treatments you didn’t want were forced on you?
Were you locked up against your will without notice, when you were nonviolent?
Were you denied legal advice or a hearing?
Were you physically or sexually abused, or strip-searched?
Were you drugged against your will?
Yes, that is what lead me to writing on this website. I was having a very difficult time and I was drinking too much. I decided enough was enough and went to the ER for detox instead of buying more alcohol that morning to prevent the shaking and anxiety caused by drinking alcohol. I was transported to a UHS psychiatric facility. Universal Health Services.
It turned out to be a month long ordeal and my medical record accused me of being suicidal a total lie and bipolar becuase “speech is rapid”. You get five minutes to talk in that interview they bill an hour for, should I speak slowly ?
Thats what UHS does https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosalindadams/intake
They threatened me with injections to try and coerce me to take a 3 drug cocktail including Haldol. A scary amount of unnecessary drugs all three at the max dose level. What the hell you people stick a needle in me when this is over I will see you outside and stick a needle in YOU. Watch your backs outside this place. They threatened to call the police, I said go ahead all I did was make the exact threat in response to the threat of assault and needle sticking you people just made at me. The did not call cause that is what I was going to do, file the same complaint of making threats as they did. Talk about rock and hard place, take a pill overdose by my own hand or get assaulted and bodily integrity violated. That is what rape is, people sticking things inside your body against your will.
It was a complete nightmare and there was no need for threats of assault and needle penetration rapes. Not my fault their “treatment” is so horrible people are constantly refusing it.
In that 24 page long news article I linked to above it explains how those criminals at UHS operate. Puts to rest that argument that since I was in the hospital I ‘needed’ to be treated that way and its my fault.
A federal jury awarded him $1 million. In his lawsuit charging he was illegally held and injected with drugs at Bellevue Hospital over a six-day period . The defendants were two psychiatrists at Bellevue and the city’s Health and Hospitals Corporation. http://thevillager.com/villager_35/homelessmanwins.html
If they are getting involved the odds overwhelmingly predict more harm then good.
“Number of Americans who experience panic-attack symptoms per month:
1 million Number of Americans who will suffer from PD at some point in their
lives: 3 million (or 1 in 75) Percentage of PD patients who visit the emergency room in a
six-month period: 28
(1993) https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199307/stats-panic-disorder ”
Whats going to happen to those people ?
One thing I do know is that “non addictive” drugs never worked on my anxiety and the benzo trap is worse then the anxiety.
I must have heard and read 100s of times that “non addictive” anti depressants help with anxiety, it did not work for me and never have I heard a personal testimonial of antidepressants working on anxiety from a person in real life despite being around addiction recovery and hearing drug talk all the time.
Maybe they can pass legislation requiring doctors to own up to the fact that GAD is rarely successfully treated with drugs and warn people that there chances of more harm then good are much greater then treatment success.
I can’t pee with people watching and it is degrading and humilating.
“Please sir can i have some more?” Begged Oliver Twist, as he was starving for more. I will pee in a cup do what ever you say… Please sir can i have some more? Not me I will not behave that way.
“if you don’t want to die or suffer, you have to play by their rules”
I did not play by their rules, I got tired of them http://www.google.com/search?q=buy+xanax+online
But I remember one time my doctor upped my dose before the month was over so I go to the pharmacy and people with “good intentions” tell me insurance says we can’t refill this yet. Its not a refill it a new Rx for a larger amount and I will pay cash.
We have to call the doctor… The next day after being up all night in withdrawals I go back did you call doctor? Give me my pills.
I am told I should try calling doctor, I go home and try. Get that message if this is emergency call 911 or go to ER.
I go back to that pharmacy with my video camera and stick it in their face. I have a new RX for a new dosage, I will pay cash, please tell me why I can’t have my pills.
Those pharmacy people with the usual pale skinned tired eyed look did not know how to answer on camera to why my Rx was being withheld now that it was being recorded so they hand it over and take my money.
One hassle after another, one time I ran out and did not feel like doing the ER thing and risking an admission to psych, the lockup and and the “non addictive” pill experiments that go with it so I went to that part of town that does not require an Rx for drugs and snorted a bag of heroin to get to sleep.
One time in the ER I could tell they were considering a psych admission so I told them hurry up I think I left my stove on I need to get home before the house catches fire and they did not feel like dealing with all that and I left with a small Ativan Rx.
I was assuming you lived this thing and know how once a person gets to liking how well benzos work on anxiety none of these road blocks and hassles are going to stop them from getting what they want.
I can’t see any other result from getting the legislators involved then the same nightmare inflicted on people with legitimate anxiety problems as was inflicted on people with chronic pain when the “pass legislation” people decided to “fix” the so called opiate problem.
I deciphered it very well, I see where this is going and what is actually going on.
“Agree to or suggest random or regularly scheduled drug testing (if you can afford it), if the prescriber requires that to continue repeat prescriptions to allow for your continued use of BZs or taper, to prove that it is compliant and as prescribed use occurring as opposed to addiction.
In the US, ask that your prescriber consults the prescription drug monitoring program (PDMP) to prove that you have been compliantly taking the BZ and not “doctor shopping”. If you are located outside of the US, ask that they check whatever database keeps track of that information —if any. ”
“Good intentions” so lets play the guilty until proven innocent game, prove your innocence with drug tests, why is its always this big brother police state crap thrown at patients?
Mandatory Drug tests, drop your pants and pee wile someone looks at your privates and patient tracking databases.
Lets see, alcohol prohibition was an epic fail. The crackdown on opiate prescriptions backfired and brought in heroin and fentanyl and started the war on chronic pain patients making their lives miserable.
But this time with benzodiazapines the prohibitionists will pull it off without unforeseen consequences.
They are *dangerous* and TOXIC and are handed out like candy impacting a huge segment of society, many of whom are unseen and are unknowing as they get medicated with additional drugs for the adverse symptoms that the benzos themselves cause.
Your post would be perfect for a black box warning.
I took out the extra mumbo jumbo, that link works. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jun 9, 2017 14:19:45 GMT.
Hoping we would jump on the bandwagon without noticing the drug testing part? Seems this online activism works, I can only guess but maybe it was me that caused that red text to be put in.
“libertarians” Explain to me how the 4th amendment does not apply to drug testing.
Now the MIA crew wants to make doctors even more like police and probation officers ?
What happens to a person who gets a false positive do we take away their benzo RX and stick them on a locked psych ward for forced withdrawal ?
I had an 8mg a day benzo dependency for years and they only time I became a burden is when people with “good intentions” got in the way of my supply with dumbshit hassles. Those ER visits are expensive.
Good intentions got me prescribed Zyprexa a chemical nightmare 100 times more toxic then Xanax or Clonopin that don’t cause weight gain or diabetes. They said that zombie poison Zyprexa was “non addictive” but it causes withdrawal reactions worse then Clonopin and Xanax.
And how about this for logic? You are mentally ill and need to take pills every day but you can’t have the benzos that actually work becuase you may become dependent and need to take them every day.
I like informed consent, in the United States, a boxed warning that appears on the package insert for certain prescription drugs, so called because the U.S. Food and Drug Administration specifies that it is formatted with a ‘box’ or border around the text.
Why all this “passing legislation” instead of using regulation like printing the informed consent in something like a black box warning ?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This includes my urine , blood and hair for their fascist drug tests.
“I don’t think you read correctly, The_cat”
This is Google’s cache of http://w-bad.org/hawaii-bill-sb505/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jun 9, 2017 14:19:45 GMT.
The current page could have changed in the meantime. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7pI8EDUwm44J:w-bad.org/hawaii-bill-sb505/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
There was nothing to read. That red was not there. Maybe they hoped people would jump on bandwagon without reading the fine print.
“While it is imperative to regulate and limit the length for which new benzodiazepine prescriptions can be given to a period of a week or two, which this bill does”
Why so more people walk out the door on Paxil and Lamictal or some other alternative chemical nightmare ?
I do not like the idea of the government playing doctor.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions and nobody paves that road better then these busybody control freaks “passing legislation”
I might just start an awareness day for “Benzodiazepine Awareness Day”.
Beware of Benzodiazepine Awareness Day, it looks nice on the outside but their goal is to pass legislation to treat patients like criminals on probation with drug testing and to enable the control freaks in government to make decisions that should be between you and your doctor.
Oh great big fat hassle !
“Consent to urine drug screening at the initiation of the informed consent process and at least two times each year thereafter”
Drug testing and like a DEA agent in the doctors office with me, no thanks. I lived the benzo nightmare and part of that nightmare is fascist BS and more of it won’t help.
I am not supporting this so called “Benzodiazepine Awareness Day” you people want more drug testing treat to treat patients like criminals in your Hawaii bill. Consent to urine testing….
The first victims of Nazi Germany weren’t Jews. They were people who’d been given psychiatric labels. Back then, theory held that schizophrenia and other such psych conditions were inherited … exactly like today…
Somewhere between one-fifth and one-quarter million people diagnosed with schizophrenia were sterilized or annihilated in this first step along the way towards the genocide of so many others, including homosexuals, intellectuals, gypsies, and Jews. That was somewhere between 73% and 100% of all people considered psychiatrically defective who were murdered or sterilized between 1939 and 1945
If a nation murdered and sterilized an estimated 73% to 100% of its diagnosed schizophrenics, yet a generation later that nation had a higher rate ofincidence of new cases of schizophrenia than did surrounding nations, shouldn’t we have questions about the claim by the mental health establishment that schizophrenia is highly heritable?
“and must no longer drive her car. There is talk of writing to the licensing authority, with a view to having her license removed, so that she will no longer be permitted to drive.
The patient protests that she needs the car to take her children to school. What is she going to do, she asks — how is she going to be able to cope without her car?”
“The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
“Personal liberty — consists of the power of locomotion, of changing situations, of removing one’s person to whatever place one’s inclination may direct, without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law.”
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution each contain a Due Process Clause. Due process deals with the administration of justice and thus the Due Process Clause acts as a safeguard from arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property by the Government outside the sanction of law.
How do these so called doctors manage to subvert the constitution ?
I don’t want people who lack the skills driving down the road but that due process thing is very important. To bad for those a holes if its expensive. Give that woman a jury trial.
What opioid hysteria leaves out: most overdoses involve a mix of drugs https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2016/jun/08/opioid-epidemic-drug-mix-overdose-death
Your link is full of BS. The very first line says we had 33,000 opiate overdose deaths. This is not true.
The evidence shows that over 90% of so-called opioid overdose deaths are the result of polydrug poisoning. It is relatively difficult to overdose on painkillers alone, although it can be done if you are determined enough. However, mixing them with another drug such as alcohol or benzodiazepines is often deadly.
Fake news media always leaves that part out. If John Belushi overdosed today they likely would likely leave out the drug mixing part.
Please please big nanny police state put a DEA agent in my doctors office if I get a toothache or injury that really hurts. Medical care will be so much more fun when you finish making it exactly like the probation and parole experience designed to punish lawbreakers.
Opiate epidemic myth http://www.google.com/search?q=Opiate+epidemic+myth
I love bashing on big pharma but this so called opiate epidemic is just a crock. Damn prohibitionists always do more harm then good.
Soul killing drugs, as a Zyprexa survivor I find that description to be completely accurate but I could never put it into words for a reader who has not lived it could understand. If it could be done it would easily negate all that crap mythology that people accused of mental illness reject the drugs because they “lack insight” or enjoy the high from so called mania. Its so damn evil and I always say the most evil thing is how outside observers will say the person on the soul killing drug look “better”, that is the most insidious part of the whole thing.
We had Data on Star Trek the next generation he never quite got human interaction but the doctor on Star Trek Voyager did much better. I think it would take an almost infinite number of if_then_go_to commands to make this thing work or the decision tree would need almost infinite branches. In Star Trek I guess they got learning algorithms to work.
What about that website “Understood” I still want you to take on that school to mental patient pipeline. I hope you are not fooled by the clip art and web design of that website that paints a picture of benevolent caring for disabled kids when its run by the same old child drugging dirt-bags with the same old agenda. Who is behind understood.org ? Understood.org is “Partners With The Child Mind Institute” Koplewicz is perhaps best known for his public advocacy of increased usage of psychotropic medications for children diagnosed with Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder… He has received a number of industry awards, including the 1997 Exemplary Psychiatrist Award from the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill … In 2001 Koplewicz co-authored [Paxil] study 329 After leaving NYU in 2009 Koplewicz started the Child Mind Institute. Same old dirt bags.
And back to Joy, a bet a good computer programmer could make a Joy like program for Alcoholics Anonymous. If “I feel like drinking” then go to “did you make a gratitude list today ?” or any number of the things suggested to avoid drinking and using. The decision tree is not that big, we did them on the blackboard in treatment. Depression and so called mental illness is way to complicated for the primitive computer technology of today but I think a useful tool could be created for addiction recovery.
I am not conflicted, I just thought it over. I had my own crap growing up remember thinking “I wish I had normal like the other kids” They would have psychopathologized the crap out of me and what could they really have done besides convince me I was a mental defective, a belief I did not have or send the authorities to my home ? That just would have added more drama and problems.
Could they keep the DSM billing codes and descriptions out of this so called humanistic counseling ?
Seems to me this humanistic counseling could just be an innocent looking entrance they will use for screening to suck more children into the school to mental patient pipeline.
Maybe instead of turning schools into mental hospitals it would be cheaper to turn all the mental hospitals into schools.
“YP-CORE satisfies standard psychometric requirements for use as a routine outcome measure for young people.”
“Psychometric” Ya its psycho alright
Parents need keep their children away from this. The information scooped up in the mental screenings will be logged into databases that will follow the child throughout his or her academic career and beyond.
“So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families”
MSNBC Your children belong to the state https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjczwQOnMqg
Maybe counseling kids is the parents job and the schools should stop turning into mental hospitals.
Stay away from our children with this crap already.
The psychiatric industry is so good at playing “both sides of the isle” I don’t see how moving left or right would help.
If they want to drug more school kids they play the lefty politicians
If they want more strict commitment laws they play the righty ones
Pharma donates to both sides
Women can dish it out too. I met one in AA. I knew better when she said that her ex said she has borderline personality disorder when the subject of mental health stuff came up as it usually does in conversations about recovery. I totally ignored that red flag right in my face.
I kept landing in these no win situations, its was like she had a calculator or computer program like a chess game algorithm to move me into one no win situation after another.
Ok so I admit it in one fight I called her a borderline psycho, but no one reading this was there, she was being a total borderline psycho.
That’s it I am not sure I want to make these confessions here but this article is so one sided. Women with so called mental health conditions can tear a dudes to piece, rip out hearts and stop on them over and over like its a sport. I know enough about the condition no one I would assume no wants all that turmoil and chaos that goes with it but I had to run away from it.
But then a friend of mine she dated a guy who was like the article described, he was such a POS hypomanic all the time, gambling, relapsing and getting arrested in her car and she would call me to help fetch it out of the impound yard. I did not know how bad it was but she started asking what should I do and I just kept pointing to the gambling that’s such a looser activity cause the house always wins no matter what the game. Horses and online poker there is no future in that complete dumbshit . He had her as like a hostage till he pulled the relapse and get arrested thing happened again and she finally took off for another state. I don’t know what I would call her diagnosis to make the story more clear. Ttotal ADD and I guess bipolar her grasp on reality let go sometimes. Dumb labels but they were the I guess the disability that he took advantage of. He was mental too but you can be “disabled” and a POS at the same time.
I did not like how the article painted the guys as automatically at fault but then thinking about what that dude put my friend through something needs to be done to help these women. This story is 3 years long and she never once told me the extent of how bad it was until it was over and she moved, that is the scary part.
This is not a new idea.
Star Trek: Voyager
Season: 7 Ep. 13
Air Date: 01/31/2001
Iko complains to the Doctor that he is suffering nausea and that he can’t stop thinking about the man he killed. Seven believes his discomfort is a manifestation of guilt. Iko’s never felt guilt before, and blames the Doctor for making him feel so horrible. Looking at scans of Iko’s brain, the Doctor finds that the nanoprobes have established new neural pathways in his brain.
So instead of modifying the schools teaching methods to fit the students we will try and modify 10,000,000 students with heavy duty drugs to fit the schools teaching methods.
ADHD the only “disease” shown to make you live LONGER.
The study was conducted among 1,000 seniors aged 90 to 109 years old who lived in the Leisure World retirement community in Laguna Woods, California. Sedentary otherwise know as sitting still all kinds of detriments to health .
So that’s it, a condition that increases lifespan cannot be classified as a defect or a disease. There is nothing more to talk about.
“No longer are you possessed by demons, able to be cured by trepanning holes into your skull. No, now you have a brain disorder, another invisible force inside you acting on you to cause you to feel and behave in ways that are separate from who you are as a person, and we call this method of recording unobservable phenomenonfaith-based science. We cant see it, but we just know it has to be there somewhere, because well, what the fuck else could it be? Unfortunately, the unseen, undetectable, psychiatric brain disorder is incurable. Thats right. You were better off when they were blaming the demons and boring holes in your cranium. Even back then, there is evidence that people survived the treatments and tried them again and again.”
This is so awesome read more here http://web.archive.org/web/20120607010903/http://bipolarbabbling.wordpress.com/
Shame this is only on the web archive now.
Homelessness and anti-psychiatry.
I wrote this paper already.
I simply compared the cost of a one month psych inpatient lockup and the cost of the prescription drugs that follows and saw it is the same as purchasing a new home.
The hospital bill is your down payment and the cost of the shut U up make U a zombie drugs will cover the monthly payments.
Latuda. LURASIDONE is an antipsychotic. It is prescribed all the time. The lowest GoodRx price for the most common version of Latuda is around $1,055.00, 14% off the average retail price of $1,227.66.
Generic aripiprazole is covered by most Medicare and insurance plans, but some pharmacy coupons or cash prices may be lower. The average retail price of $842.26. Per month.
The psych industry loves the homeless revolving door patient who gets nothing but an abusive lockup and lobotomy pills and thrown back on the street wile they drive luxury cars and buy houses in the best neighborhoods using their license to lock doors and rip off everyone’s health insurance.
Housing First is an approach to quickly and successfully connect individuals and families experiencing homelessness to permanent housing without preconditions and barriers to entry, such as sobriety, psychiatric treatment or service participation requirements.
Profits First is an approach used by the psychiatric industry to make billions even though they can show little positive results for those billions given to them by the government every year. Governments, groups, families, and individuals that continue to accept their faulse information and techniques, do so at their own peril. The odds overwhelmingly predict that they will continue fail in every respect like they have been. Problem should have been solved by now.
I did it, I cost the system the down payment on a new home once simply cause I did not have a home to go to and drank to deal with my situation then landed in the hospital.
I have a buddy who did that at least 20 times, Treatment > relapse > Kicked out homeless > Hospital > Treatment > relapse > Kicked out homeless
He must have cost the health insurance system a million dollars by now and all he needs is a ****ing place to go where if he does get fed up frustrated and drink it does not result in another cycle of kicked out homeless > Hospital > Treatment > Sober living> relapse > kicked out homeless
He would be just fine with his EBT and a place that was his and no one could kick him out of. I have know him for 6 years he has been doing this I think at least 10. A million dollars in treatment is no exaggeration.
There is another guy in town who is similar with the so called mental illness but he inherited a house, decades ago I think, the place is a complete disaster like an episode of hoarders but he does not do the revolving door mental patient thing. He just lives his life, shows up at AA sometimes drunk that’s how I know him.
If they were generous probably the days when they used opiates to treat mental illness were the kindest.
“In the Victorian era, the drug of choice was laudanum, a high-octane mix of ethanol and opium that packed just the chemical wallop it sounds it would. The drug was used as a painkiller, an antidepressant, and an antihysteric, and it often worked quite well” http://aycnp.org/opium_psychiatric_drugs_history.php
People all over are breaking the modern drug laws trying to self medicate themselves with opiates these days so I would imagine the time when they just gave you what people today often seek at great expense where possibly the times when the mentally ill were treated best. I don’t know I wasn’t there but I am sure psychiatry never needed much coercion or force to get patients to take their opiates.
Drug dependency itself is not that bad with many of them, its the maintaining the supply part in that turns it into hell.
“Silicon Valley is engineering your phone, apps and social media to get you hooked. He is one of the few tech insiders to publicly acknowledge that the companies responsible for programming your phones are working hard to get you and your family to feel the need to check in constantly. Some programmers call it “brain hacking” and the tech world would probably prefer you didn’t hear about it. But Tristan Harris openly questions the long-term consequences of it all and we think it’s worth putting down your phone to listen.
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