I’m not sure where I read this Steve, but recall reading that in developing countries, parts of Africa for example, where medication was unavailable, that full recovery from ‘schizophrenia’ was at 60%. There is also the work of Carl Pfeiffer and Abram Hoffer to think about….. bit.ly/3mfbQb4 Their research/work seemed to falter with the introduction of antipsychotics by the drug companies. Chlorpromazine in the 50s? I had the pleasure of hearing Jaakku Seikkula in UK a few years ago. [Open Dialogue] Fascinating. http://jaakkoseikkula.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/joconstpsycholo2001I.pdf And this makes interesting reading! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-56097028 There’s more than one way to ‘skin a cat’.