It’s a hard idea to get across, at first. These are the conditions that the psychologically inclined frequently fumble, because they aren’t quite aware of interactions between body and mind- that this is a two-way street.
Someone’s trying to eat their cake and have it, too. Our Distinguished Politician from Texas wants a safe state while ignoring its armed, but voting, morons walking around on city streets with their AK’s and AR15’s, just looking for a chance to open fire in a crowded street. He also is unaware of the nature of the paranoids’ mentality, which will easily outwit these screening plans, being easily able to see through the reasoning behind the questions in the universal tests given them while they’re still in school.
I know what the ankh was, but it was around 2,000 years before the Christian Cross.
I thought the caduceus was the symbol of Asclepius, the Greek God of Medicine. The caduceus is his staff.
Frank. Mark Vonnegut seems to be doing well, though. He’s practicing medicine in upstate NY, last I heard.
Yes, helpstillneeded. I had a couple of conversations with a gent moving north from the Oakland County area in my state. He was an old internist who became interested in therapeutic fasting, studying under Theron Randolph. He wanted to move to a less-polluted in our state, where he could supervise fasts (Randolph had him fast as part of his own instruction). As he was moving in, I got free instructions for adjusting my B3 (he was a shock doc downstate and probably started using B3 to help save his patients’ long term memories).
Curiously, the hospital he was moving to wouldn’t let him fast patients because “it might be too dangerous”, but saw nothing wrong with his shock doc past (he did them all at his former hospital- thousands of them), an interesting observation on the psychiatric mentality.
I found out about him at a monthly meeting of a group of former patients. One of the regulars was a guy who’d had 200 (plus or minus) zaps from assorted inept MD’s, who saw nothing wrong with the doc in question.
When did this take place? If it was back in the 1980’s or earlier, you might have run afoul of Carl Pfeiffer and his Brain Bio Center. I’ve read his stuff, and he tended to be heavy on initial drugging while he sorted out his patients’ chemistry. He had a background as a Professor of Pharmacology at Emory U. at Atlanta (among other things). I don’t think he ever did LSD and adrenochrome like Hoffer and Osmond did.
Sounds more like attempts to market antidepressants than to actually properly treat the youthful depressed, who will frequently respond to treatments that don’t use drugs at all, if the alleged professional knows anything real about the bio-social origins of depressed moods.
I think all of Trump’s sayings and shouting signify that his self confidence is actually crock solid, rather than rock solid. His fear of reverses is the giveaway, but his fans will never see that- they’re not supposed to, and they work as hard as they can to stay hypnotized, in order to remain blind.
They might feel less toxic and more comfortable, but that certainly can change, once the drugs deprive them of enough manganese.
More importantly, you can deceive yourself.
These investigators have also avoided paying attention to mega-nutrient therapies as well, maybe because the villainous psychiatric knight, Abram Hoffer, recommended them after his success treating PTSD troops and Death Camp survivors with multigram doses of B3 per day.
I didn’t stay on them for long, not realizing I was supposed to sleep 15 hours a day, which I haven’t done since. Fortunately this was long before the days of the “atypical” antipsychotics, so it was a snap.
It isn’t necessarily stupid if you’re a believer in Psychiatry Unlimited, which I, alas, am not.
Actually, benzo withdrawal is worse than alcohol withdrawal. Alcohol withdrawal can be sped up and done safely with liberal use (multiple grams/day) of niacin, which speeds up (safe) withdrawal to a couple of days. No such luck with benzos, which are fat soluble and therefore much slower to clear. Maybe niacinamide would work there (it doesn’t with alcohol), occupying the same neural sites as benzos, but the process would need to be directed in a hospital (I’ve directed alcohol withdrawals at home, though I wouldn’t recommend that, either).
I’ve seen a number of self-accounts in copies of the Journals of Orthomolecular Psychiatry and of Orthomolecular Medicine. Maybe that was one reason they’re blackballed by the psychiatric community, and probably now also by the orthodox medical community (in addition to publishing stuff about nutritional treatments for fatal diseases like HIV/AIDS) except in British Columbia.
Naturally the study was a waste of time, relying on behaviorally centered diagnosing. You knew that papa was a fruitcake who beat on his daughters, but not any physical reasons why. Nobody bothered to quantify his altered perceptions. Nor did the savants know anything about what we call PTSD, although that’s likely the result of chemical changes due to stress (Abram Hoffer treated a number of Canadian POW’s and concentration camp survivors with niacin, achieving some success). The tests for pyroluria didn’t exist, which might have proven of value once the stressor, AKA Papa, was out of the way for an extended period of time (that is, if he had pyrolles in his urine, for starters), to reduce the likelihood residual effects from situational factors.
This was also done back in psychiatry’s Jurassic epoch, which didn’t help its validity any.
I know too much to be involved in peer support. I dare not work with any agency because I actually know how to treat some of their patients, which will get me terminated, particularly if the patients I see greatly improve and the professional staff’s initial assessment was shown to be incorrect. This already has happened once, with alcoholics in residential treatment. And I’d have done it again, were I not let go. Fortunately, I’m now on Social Security, so treatment centers can shove it.
The first question to ask is whether the depressive symptoms preceded the phone use, or whether the phone use preceded the symptoms. In the Jurassic preceding smart phones, in my old crisis center days, I recall depressed individuals who just wanted to talk to someone.
I thought you GOP guys were true conservatives, eyes fixed on the past, but you don’t remember 19th Century mental institutions, which were far from cities, so escapees were easily caught. These institutions couldn’t exist without the patients, because the patients did all the grunt work, and then some. The grounds had farm acreage and barns because the patients fed themselves and did the necessary work maintaining them, the excuse being that this was a part of their treatment (a more cogent reason was that taxes to support them were less needed, once the early ones “silted up” with patients).
It’s cheaper and more tempting to go with starchy and sweet pseudo-foods, particularly when the costs will be passed on to the criminal justice and/or “mental health” system and the taxpayers, instead of the schools, themselves.
May I point out again that l-glutamine antagonizes these ketamine and phencyclidine(PCP) class drugs, as they antagonize its metabolite, glutamate. Since glutamine is comparatively cheap in bulk and can’t be patented, your friends in Big Pharma will never consider marketing it, themselves. It’s on the market as a bulk powder for the hyper-athletic, because it helps supply oxygen for their muscles. As a side note, it also reduces the desire to drink alcoholic beverages.
Don’t forget about the school cafeteria. Removing the junk food is likely to lead to fewer behavioral episodes and afternoon snoozers driving your teaching staff crazy, as well as providing a better internal attitude to learning for the students.
Those foreigners don’t understand that the only purpose of creating new drugs is to increase earnings. It doesn’t matter if the new drugs are worthless or even dangerous, as long as the company increases its earnings by selling them.
There are a number of physical depressing things that DON’T involve things in your brain you can localize, but that certainly involve things in the rest of your body that may or may not be localized that are involved in depressed moods. Therapists should be aware of them so their clients won’t wind up in the clutches of people like me- and one of my interests involves others’ treatment failures.
They likely do, but it’s also likely depressing circumstances can lead to a depressing diet and depressing habits and activities. If I had to do psych first aid and couldn’t find anything I was familiar with, I’d send the individual to you, being too weird to be properly attentive, myself.
I don’t know about this. As a former 11 bangbang with a Combat Idiot’s Badge (the writer will know what those things are), Lieutenants were people trained for the mission to get me stupidly killed. Cannabis helped get me through my tour, but I hear they drug tested during his active service days, as they probably do now. By the way, before I went to the Land of the Little People, I washed out of OCS because I couldn’t look like an officer should.
But then I was in a different army in a different time.
He was also interested in unusual states of mind, building a collection of several hundred autobiographical books by mental patients, alcoholics and addicts, LGBT folks, including cross-dressers. He wrote reviews about a number of the individuals who appeared in the several hundred volumes in his collection (some, like Aliester Crowley, rather infamous). In his profession he started as a GI man, not a shrink, but became interested in the subject when he experienced a flow of patients with what we used to call psychosomatic gut problems over his GI years. The title of his book was *Minds that Came Back*
Not in the modern sense, but was was no Bible thumper or closet Nazi. He was very open minded for his day and even got his newspaper column demoted to remote regions of the NY Times for bad-mouthing psychoanalysis as a treatment.
And what, may I ask, is this effort to globalize psychiatric pseudo-medicine all about? Enlarging the market for pseudo-therapeutic drugs? Providing new territory for expanding pseudo-benevolence? Promoting careers delivering pseudo-benevolent solutions to solve local problems?
And I thought grandiosity was supposed to be a symptom of psychiatric pseudo-illnesses.
Acting weird on 10mg. Haldol? You were probably lucky you could act at all.
Think of Sun Tzu’s first maxim. “Know your enemy, know yourself and you can never be defeated.” Thus you can anticipate hostile actions and prepare yourself to avoid them or defeat them.
Imbalances can be a touchy subject here, because some of the contributors have confused real medicine with psychiatric pseudo-medicine, which doesn’t seem to grasp the idea that your mind functioning well is dependent on how well the rest of your body functions, thus ignoring things like metabolic imbalances, allergies and heavy metal poisoning as sources of mental disturbances.
Notice how none of our authorities have grasped that low calcium and/or Vitamin D3 might have anything to do with these mistreated “depressions” and the sorry results of pharmaceutical treatment.
Also notice how it presumes depression to be an independent entity unto itself, and not the result of one or more biological malfunctions that can induce it (also known as a syndrome that requires examination to realize the proper treatment).
This is the stuff you get when you believe that depression comes from some localized brain area’s simple malfunctioning, instead of presuming it to be a syndrome that can originate from one or more of a multitude of health related conditions. This seems to be some kind of Adventure in Psycho-neurology where it’s assumed one’s brain works exactly like a computer, where the brain is composed of isolated pieces that can be subjected to control by turning the right ones on and shutting the “wrong” ones off, like doing electrical repairs on your car or an appliance (click, click and all is well).
Not that radical. I’ve read stuff by the late Walter Alvarez, MD, written over 50 years ago on the same topic. He was hardly a left-wing radical, yet he treated the subject evenly, honestly concerning himself with how the matter affected those most affected by “unusual” sexual and gender preferences and beliefs. But then, he was an early advocate of Hoffer and Osmond’s megavitamin B3 therapy for schizophrenia syndrome.
The actual treatment for pyroluria can be quite cheap, as the basics are B6 and zinc, which aren’t patentable. The B6 is adjusted by increasing it until you remember your dreams, the zinc until you don’t get new white spots in your fingernails. Naturally, this process is too complex for modern pseudo-medical psychiatry and its galaxy of side effect inducing drugs.
Elizabeth D, I actually went to my orthomolecular site. Simple name-Orthomolecular. org. Site has directories of practitioners for every state.
Well, the DSM disorders have to do something, seeing as how they have no relationship to the proper treatment of the conditions they allegedly describe.
BPD is a prominent inhabitant of the diagnostic wastebasket, supported by hearsay. Like the other alleged psychiatric diagnoses, it’s a behavioral description that can arise from multiple origins. Its primary use is to get you kicked out of therapy because the therapist thinks you’re an untreatable (and maybe a shamming) geek who craves attention.
The Canadians have a site sponsored by their International Schizophrenia Foundation (you’ll have to look up the site’s name, as I can’t remember it offhand, having it in my library of programs so I don’t have to look). They have an index of Canadian practitioners, but I don’t know if they include US practitioners and their addresses as well. The guys I saw were all old at the time (40+ years ago) and I take care of myself, so I can’t really help you there.
This demonstrates why you should get the functional testing done early, BEFORE you go see conventional shrinks. If you’ve got to see a shrink, look for an orthomolecular practitioner- they’ll do functional testing as well, before they prescribe anything. Actually, some of these tests can be quite cheap- a lot cheaper than continuous visits to a conventional practitioner with an eternally ready prescription pad.
Since I don’t think that psychiatric “diagnoses” are real diagnoses, I find this article to have a certain “tempest in a teapot” quality. Unfortunately, it seems to reinforce the notion that “depression” is a real disease entity unto itself, which leads down countless blind alleys in the search for “treatments”, while ignoring the real issues in dealing with depressed moods.
It would be more of a surprise to discover antidepressants did work, since depression is just a behavioral description that can have many different causes. The one thing they do accomplish is magically transporting your money to pharmaceutical companies’ bank accounts.
Well, with most psychiatric drug based treatments, the patient never recovers, but now has this beef against anything claiming to be treatment and will do anything to avoid going back. The only plus about this stuff is that the treatment zombifies patients so they can’t do anything while you keep them around, vegetating for the rest of their lives, because you can never tell if the public will be safe from them.
I don’t know about psychology alone, but if you take your supplements, watch what you eat, avoid sweets and desserts and stay away from stimulants and hallucinogens, you can make a decent approximation without a great deal of difficulty.
Maybe a key editor took it unto himself to prove the mushrooms on the cow flop were edible.
One of the most depressing things about this, is that the pharmaceutical companies could likely prevent most, if not all of this by adding 1mg. of manganese (Mn) to every antipsychotic and (probably) SSRI tablet they produced. The antipsychotics chelate manganese out of the body- supplemental manganese seems to be an effective treatment for drug induced dyskinesia, suggesting it could be used to prevent same in smaller quantities. But then the added cost would reduce the companies’ profit margin on their drugs (AAAA!), certainly much more important than having patients who don’t twitch and compulsively march about for the rest of their lives.
You know, this wouldn’t happen so often if prescribers checked out symptoms quantitatively instead of simply prescribing to reduce the intensity of obvious mood changes. Antidepressants should never be prescribed to someone who has numerous perceptual changes going on in addition to mood disturbances, unless the prescriber gets a thrill out of his/her patients going through the ceiling as they become delusional.
It was a good thing you dropped out of that program. The types you encountered sounded like they could use some serious fist-to-nose therapy, which would definitely get you in trouble with the civil authorities.
I should have used a better example. Maybe the likelihood that copper poisoning and hallucinogen wipeout are both classed according to the DSM as “schizophrenia” but they have different successful treatments- the metal poisoning needs chelating agents, while the wipeout needs megavitamin B3 and ascorbate (the old Hoffer-Osmond special) to be successfully handled. Same diagnosis, different treatments.
Yes, that’s another one, but I didn’t want to get into some discussion about the “schizophrenias” featuring arguments about whether they exist or not, even though, for example, I know that lead and copper poisonings can result in symptomologies apparently identical to DSM’s “schizophrenia” diagnoses, but are better treated with D-pen (or the EDTA that food freezer processers use to keep their frozen produce products colorful by stripping them of their minerals) instead of psych drugs.
Not discussed was how differing “psychiatric” diagnoses can respond to the same treatment (no, I’m not talking about “psychiatric” treatments that leave patients semiconscious, at best). For example, B6 and zinc dependency can present as one (or more) differing psychiatric “diagnostic” entities, which will all respond to the same basic treatment. If you didn’t know the signs of this condition, which are likely to appear in any of the psych diagnostic classes, you wouldn’t be able to treat any of its manifestations properly.
Think of them as statistically normal, Steve.
Of course NAMI is corrupt. It needs to set the example for psychiatry that the goal is to become rich and powerful, not to properly diagnose and treat patients.
Well, today’s shrinks would certainly be appalled at the late Gertrude Black, MD, a GP who never used antidepressants for suicidal ideation. She’d give her patients 500mg. of B1, followed by 100mg. every hour until they’d had 500 more mg. of B1. She’d also be amused when shrinks would tell her patients they were glad that the patients were now taking their medications, when they’d actually gone months or years without them (she was an early orthomolecular practitioner, before the word “orthomolecular” was coined).
Over the years, I’ve noticed that a number of these shooter guys are likely hypoglycemic, as indicated by artifacts such as candy wrappers, pop and beer bottles, “Twinkie” type mini cakes, French fries and or bags they came in. Of course these aren’t “psychiatric” disorders, because they’re identified by physical testing, whereas “psychiatric” disorders are diagnosed by data messages from the Astral Plane.
Easy. You can trust them to benefit themselves at your expense.
This mentally ill monster knows that politicians want to have their cake (unlimited numbers and kinds of firearms floating around that anyone can own without a background check) and eat it, too (pretending to do something about mass shootings). Maybe it’s time for the Colombian clothiers who offer Kevlar fashions to expand their businesses to the US- Bogota haberdasheries might help revive the business climate in our malls.
Since I’m acquainted with assorted nutrient treatments for depression, I find this debate an interesting anachronism. Since I’d never go to an ordinary shrink, should I become depressed, and certainly never start on antidepressants, I think the debate is trivial- too bad so many individuals are suiciding on their medication.
If I were convalescing, I’d prefer going to the Earth House myself, but I’m probably a lot more prosaic than many of the MIA readers. I’m also less likely to extract philosophical meaning from the bulk of my dysperceptions, when I have them. I also have to be sometimes reminded to take my vitamins and avoid junk food.
Decades ago, Abram Hoffer began to treat such individuals with a program based around niacin, starting with a gent who’d been held by the Japanese for nearly 4 years. The response was so noticeable that he wound up treating a number of former concentration camp prisoners who’d been held by the Germans (Hoffer was Jewish, himself, which led to him getting a number of referrals of these individuals).
Someone didn’t pay attention to the positive qualities of “schizophrenics”, namely their immunity to viral diseases, among other things. But then, this had to be ignored, because it was made public by the psychiatric outlaws, Abram Hoffer and Humphry Osmond in their evil book *How to Live with Schizophrenia*, evil because it discussed the syndrome honestly and because it introduced the public to megavitamin therapy.
This present emphasis on genetics reminds me of those earlier guys’ attempts to prove the “White Man’s” right and duty to own the prime real estate and command the locals in regions where he’d turn into a delirious insane lobster if he spent an hour in the midday sun.
All the antipsychotic pushers need to do is warn us of the millions of undiagnosed psychotics who could be easily identified by their tics, twitches and added poundage if we permitted unlimited use of the drugs they’re pushing.
Makes too much sense for psychiatry to accept. Getting rid of the DSM and seeking real diagnoses, instead, would force wannabe psychiatrists to actually study real medicine instead of flippantly reeling off diagnoses, a serious blow to the profession and its numbers of practitioners.
Pretend there’s a convention of sideshow performers in town
Olanzapine? No wonder the exposure periods are so short- if they were long enough to simulate a real course of treatment, the experimenters would have an experimental group consisting of 300 pound subjects.
Not having either shrinks or therapists, I don’t have a problem there. Since I do use mega niacin, I occasionally find myself flushing in public, but can easily get away by telling the curious I’m taking it for my cholesterol. Since I live in a facility for seniors, I avoid “coming out”.
Did they ask you about alcohol? One minute you mention three drinks, and shortly afterward, just one. The landlord seems pretty jive, as are these supposed doctors who apparently never took a drinking history, whereas I, maybe because I’m of unsound mind, see a large neon sign that says *ALCOHOLIC BLACKOUT* as one of those flashing neon arrows points to you.
This is an example of what happens when you consider “depression” to be an entity unto itself instead of a symptom of some pathological process that can be identified and readily (for the most part) treated, frequently without the use of psych meds, once its origin can be pinpointed. It should be no surprise that the pseudo-biological explanation for depression given by the average shrink will tend to make patients more depressed.
You’re lucky to have found an occupational niche appropriate to your capabilities. My long acquaintance with orthomolecular medicine and its treatments make me unacceptable to supervisors and directors. Say, I’d get a depressed client with white spots on his/her nails, who doesn’t sleep well and doesn’t remember dreams- and out would come the B6 , zinc and magnesium. The pink slip would come several weeks later, when the case worker found out, no matter what the state of the client was.
Don’t forget the gun-toting mystique we’re subjected to in countless movies, TV shows and novels, where the hero snatches up Old Betsey and rides off to town to blow away dozens of heavies and henchmen, his Model 1873 containing hundreds of rounds of ammunition in the cylinder of his 6-shot revolver.
There aren’t “mental” illnesses, but plenty of physical ones that induce “mental” symptoms. Naturally, psych drugs are definitely not “treatments of choice” for them, nor are psychiatrists preferred consultants, knowing little about physical diseases and conditions.
It still wouldn’t hurt sexual minority individuals to become regular users of megascorbate, which antagonizes the paranoia inducing amphetamines and is likely also to reduce the level of adrenaline induced paranoia. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with suspicion, but carried to extremes, it can be incapacitating, making it harder to deal with real threats.
I still wonder if niacinamide might help in managing benzo withdrawal in somewhat the same fashion niacin can be used in managing alcohol withdrawal, which it both speeds up and reduces the likelihood of seizures and hallucinations in the process.
Niacinamide doesn’t work for alcohol withdrawal, but may work for benzos, occupying the same neural sites as the benzo molecules. You can also use niacinamide for things like anxiety instead of benzos, another clue to its possibilities. You’d have to use it for a long time, as benzos don’t like to gracefully leave our bodies, as many of you already know.
Are there any professionals willing to discuss the above notion, or should I go to an orthomolecular web site to broach the matter?
Pharmacological psychiatry is a better term. Your actual biology’s ignored (your own biochemicals can’t be patented, fortunately, as you could then be sued for patent infringement if they were), in favor of putting you on the pharma rep’s latest wonder drug (you’ll wonder why you’re on it).
What a sorry performance in both these cases! Is the idea of using calming B vitamins like niacinamide and minerals like calcium and magnesium so esoteric that only secret cabals know it? Or are the pharma detail man’s toys and trips to subtropical “conference” sites so hypnotizing that all else is forgotten?
Of course these journals are filled with spin. Medicine is now ideological. Successful treatment means treatments that enrich providers and (pharmaceutical) suppliers, not treatments that cure or improve the patient so much that (s)he doesn’t have to return for more treatment. Look how popular addictive psychiatric drugs have become, with no attempt ever made to eliminate these pharmaceuticals (though millions are spent promoting them).
He’d do a lot better to provide the vets with bottles of 100 mg. B1, bottles of 500mcg. B12 sublingual and maybe 500 mg. niacinamide tablets. It would be cheaper than Esketamine and probably just as effective, though it wouldn’t get you stoned.
When I first saw your circumstantial complaints, I began to think B6, zinc, magnesium and B complex 100’s, the B6 for interrupted sleep cycles, the zinc and magnesium for anxiety and the B100’s on general principles. I’m impressed with the impressive number of drugs they gave you and how miserable the results were. I’m also impressed with the court martial I’d get if I were in your unit when I made suggestions you did something like the above and also suggested the use of my HOD test to monitor your condition.
Could this be something like tardive dyskinesia, which occurs when the nervous system becomes maladapted to or in the presence of antipsychotics?
You probably have that right. Nothing is more likely to raise our “biological” psychiatrists’ hackles than verification of Hoffer and Osmond’s adrenochrome hypothesis, as it was probably officially “refuted” by the prior generation’s “experts”. That the treatment the pair used didn’t involve patented “antipsychotic” drugs probably made it even less acceptable.
The reader should also realize that antipsychotic drugs raise the user’s estrogen levels, which will the chances of the user contracting cancer.
Since “depression” isn’t a disease unto itself, but a syndrome that can have one or more of a number of origins, the ineffectuality of antidepressants comes as no surprise. What is surprising are these individuals puffing them as lifesaving drugs, without knowing anything about the syndrome, itself, because there are different causes for depressed moods with correspondingly different treatments (although Anderson Cooper may not believe it) that are likely to work far better than antidepressants could ever hope to.
Better start your vitamins, lads and lassies. If you’re poor, better get used to the niacin flush. Time to stay away from those junk food items you have such a craving for. Better get used to fresh foods and thoughtful grocery shopping and reading the small print on those package labels. Exercising won’t hurt, but ditch those multivitamins with copper in them. Better avoid those who are certain you’ll face serious harm by doing the above things, while simultaneously feeding you rubbish about the RDA’s. Better find a nutritionally oriented professional.
Writers used to comment about Nicholas II, last Tsar of all the Russians, gazing into a speaker’s eyes. Of course he had nothing to say at all, save maybe a platitude at the end of the speech to him.
Nowadays, you don’t have many neuroscientists who openly admit to taking hallucinogens, because it would be a black mark on their careers. And they certainly can’t admit these substances can provide any useful information about how your brain works, because that would also be a similar career black mark.
You could start by being more aware of the characteristics of the people you know and those who you meet, without being overwhelmed by connections and simple degree of education.
It would probably be a good idea for MIA fans to read the late Humphry Osmond’s book *Models of Madness, Models of Medicine* if they can find a copy, giving them the ability to see that the alleged “biomedical” model held by Big-Time Psychiatry is actually a muddled model of “combined” medical and moral models. This can be easily noticed when you hear some lecturing shrink carry on about “diseases of behavior”, a term that deserves the Punch in the Nose Award for smug ignorance. Real medicine has limited goals, not grandiose notions about universal morality and ethics.
Treatment successful! Case closed!
Of course these brilliant scientists are paying no attention to how poverty effects one’s diet and exposure to environmental pollutants. If they did, they’d be likely to discover the horrifying fact that some poor people might be just as smart as they are, leading to shock and horror among our alleged intellectual elites, now forced to build concentration camps to prove their original assumptions. My friend, Dr. Joe, a high school drop out with a PhD, would get quite a charge out of their terror, should his degree hide his status.
Steve. Maybe you haven’t been following the political screeds, as there’s a powerful right-wing sect that promotes the notion that all human activity should be based on how much income is generated from it by and for involved individuals, themselves (Donald Trump is morally superior to Jesus because he’s a billionaire and Jesus was penniless) and nothing else matters. This may help you understand the psychiatric mentality that passes for therapeutic success- it’s how much revenue your patient generates, not whether or not (s)he returns to anything resembling sanity and usefulness.
This brain asymmetry stuff is the kind of nonsense you get from trying to treat depression as an independent entity instead of a syndrome induced by a variety of causes.
This is a tale of psychiatric ineptitude. No wonder psych patients don’t recover- these alleged professionals didn’t even bother to quantify his level of depression, something a quack like me could get an estimate for in about 20 minutes, using his trusty HOD test during the first contact with an individual.
I also found those “treatments” pretty ghastly, being addressed to relieving the many side effects of the many prior treatments. I wonder how much money the pharmaceutical companies made off this individual with the medics’ casual attitude toward this alleged treatment.
Well, you wouldn’t want them to put their alcoholics on niacin, would you? This was why the AA medical bureaucrats decided that Bill Wilson was senile, because he advocated it after it removed a depression that bothered him for years and also persuaded a few dozen of his AA buddies to try it, with 2/3 of them reporting positive results. He was also pals of renegade shrinks like Hoffer (“Doctor Niacin”) and Humphry Osmond (creator of the word “psychedelic”- Bill had had LSD in the early 1960’s and became interested in the psychedelic therapy of those days, of which both were pioneers.
E. Fuller Torrey has an excuse. He’s never, himself, consumed any of the drugs he advocates, nor, I suspect, ever taken hallucinogens himself, to experience the patients’ world.
I wouldn’t know where they got such numbers, either. I never saw such numbers in my CJ classes back in the 1990’s. The National Review, etc. don’t seem to realize that when people become really bananas, they lose the mental organization needed to prepare a grocery list, not to mention the mental organization needed to make a complicated plan to carry out a mass shooting requiring the slow accumulation of weapons and ammunition.
Since our beloved “thought leaders” aren’t quite certain themselves about what will make ill individuals potentially dangerous, the idea they can program a machine appropriately seems more than a trifle grandiose, since an AI machine can’t function properly without proper programming.
It’s a hard idea to get across, at first. These are the conditions that the psychologically inclined frequently fumble, because they aren’t quite aware of interactions between body and mind- that this is a two-way street.
Someone’s trying to eat their cake and have it, too. Our Distinguished Politician from Texas wants a safe state while ignoring its armed, but voting, morons walking around on city streets with their AK’s and AR15’s, just looking for a chance to open fire in a crowded street. He also is unaware of the nature of the paranoids’ mentality, which will easily outwit these screening plans, being easily able to see through the reasoning behind the questions in the universal tests given them while they’re still in school.
I know what the ankh was, but it was around 2,000 years before the Christian Cross.
I thought the caduceus was the symbol of Asclepius, the Greek God of Medicine. The caduceus is his staff.
Frank. Mark Vonnegut seems to be doing well, though. He’s practicing medicine in upstate NY, last I heard.
Yes, helpstillneeded. I had a couple of conversations with a gent moving north from the Oakland County area in my state. He was an old internist who became interested in therapeutic fasting, studying under Theron Randolph. He wanted to move to a less-polluted in our state, where he could supervise fasts (Randolph had him fast as part of his own instruction). As he was moving in, I got free instructions for adjusting my B3 (he was a shock doc downstate and probably started using B3 to help save his patients’ long term memories).
Curiously, the hospital he was moving to wouldn’t let him fast patients because “it might be too dangerous”, but saw nothing wrong with his shock doc past (he did them all at his former hospital- thousands of them), an interesting observation on the psychiatric mentality.
I found out about him at a monthly meeting of a group of former patients. One of the regulars was a guy who’d had 200 (plus or minus) zaps from assorted inept MD’s, who saw nothing wrong with the doc in question.
When did this take place? If it was back in the 1980’s or earlier, you might have run afoul of Carl Pfeiffer and his Brain Bio Center. I’ve read his stuff, and he tended to be heavy on initial drugging while he sorted out his patients’ chemistry. He had a background as a Professor of Pharmacology at Emory U. at Atlanta (among other things). I don’t think he ever did LSD and adrenochrome like Hoffer and Osmond did.
Sounds more like attempts to market antidepressants than to actually properly treat the youthful depressed, who will frequently respond to treatments that don’t use drugs at all, if the alleged professional knows anything real about the bio-social origins of depressed moods.
I think all of Trump’s sayings and shouting signify that his self confidence is actually crock solid, rather than rock solid. His fear of reverses is the giveaway, but his fans will never see that- they’re not supposed to, and they work as hard as they can to stay hypnotized, in order to remain blind.
They might feel less toxic and more comfortable, but that certainly can change, once the drugs deprive them of enough manganese.
More importantly, you can deceive yourself.
These investigators have also avoided paying attention to mega-nutrient therapies as well, maybe because the villainous psychiatric knight, Abram Hoffer, recommended them after his success treating PTSD troops and Death Camp survivors with multigram doses of B3 per day.
I didn’t stay on them for long, not realizing I was supposed to sleep 15 hours a day, which I haven’t done since. Fortunately this was long before the days of the “atypical” antipsychotics, so it was a snap.
It isn’t necessarily stupid if you’re a believer in Psychiatry Unlimited, which I, alas, am not.
Actually, benzo withdrawal is worse than alcohol withdrawal. Alcohol withdrawal can be sped up and done safely with liberal use (multiple grams/day) of niacin, which speeds up (safe) withdrawal to a couple of days. No such luck with benzos, which are fat soluble and therefore much slower to clear. Maybe niacinamide would work there (it doesn’t with alcohol), occupying the same neural sites as benzos, but the process would need to be directed in a hospital (I’ve directed alcohol withdrawals at home, though I wouldn’t recommend that, either).
I’ve seen a number of self-accounts in copies of the Journals of Orthomolecular Psychiatry and of Orthomolecular Medicine. Maybe that was one reason they’re blackballed by the psychiatric community, and probably now also by the orthodox medical community (in addition to publishing stuff about nutritional treatments for fatal diseases like HIV/AIDS) except in British Columbia.
Naturally the study was a waste of time, relying on behaviorally centered diagnosing. You knew that papa was a fruitcake who beat on his daughters, but not any physical reasons why. Nobody bothered to quantify his altered perceptions. Nor did the savants know anything about what we call PTSD, although that’s likely the result of chemical changes due to stress (Abram Hoffer treated a number of Canadian POW’s and concentration camp survivors with niacin, achieving some success). The tests for pyroluria didn’t exist, which might have proven of value once the stressor, AKA Papa, was out of the way for an extended period of time (that is, if he had pyrolles in his urine, for starters), to reduce the likelihood residual effects from situational factors.
This was also done back in psychiatry’s Jurassic epoch, which didn’t help its validity any.
I know too much to be involved in peer support. I dare not work with any agency because I actually know how to treat some of their patients, which will get me terminated, particularly if the patients I see greatly improve and the professional staff’s initial assessment was shown to be incorrect. This already has happened once, with alcoholics in residential treatment. And I’d have done it again, were I not let go. Fortunately, I’m now on Social Security, so treatment centers can shove it.
The first question to ask is whether the depressive symptoms preceded the phone use, or whether the phone use preceded the symptoms. In the Jurassic preceding smart phones, in my old crisis center days, I recall depressed individuals who just wanted to talk to someone.
I thought you GOP guys were true conservatives, eyes fixed on the past, but you don’t remember 19th Century mental institutions, which were far from cities, so escapees were easily caught. These institutions couldn’t exist without the patients, because the patients did all the grunt work, and then some. The grounds had farm acreage and barns because the patients fed themselves and did the necessary work maintaining them, the excuse being that this was a part of their treatment (a more cogent reason was that taxes to support them were less needed, once the early ones “silted up” with patients).
It’s cheaper and more tempting to go with starchy and sweet pseudo-foods, particularly when the costs will be passed on to the criminal justice and/or “mental health” system and the taxpayers, instead of the schools, themselves.
May I point out again that l-glutamine antagonizes these ketamine and phencyclidine(PCP) class drugs, as they antagonize its metabolite, glutamate. Since glutamine is comparatively cheap in bulk and can’t be patented, your friends in Big Pharma will never consider marketing it, themselves. It’s on the market as a bulk powder for the hyper-athletic, because it helps supply oxygen for their muscles. As a side note, it also reduces the desire to drink alcoholic beverages.
Don’t forget about the school cafeteria. Removing the junk food is likely to lead to fewer behavioral episodes and afternoon snoozers driving your teaching staff crazy, as well as providing a better internal attitude to learning for the students.
Those foreigners don’t understand that the only purpose of creating new drugs is to increase earnings. It doesn’t matter if the new drugs are worthless or even dangerous, as long as the company increases its earnings by selling them.
There are a number of physical depressing things that DON’T involve things in your brain you can localize, but that certainly involve things in the rest of your body that may or may not be localized that are involved in depressed moods. Therapists should be aware of them so their clients won’t wind up in the clutches of people like me- and one of my interests involves others’ treatment failures.
They likely do, but it’s also likely depressing circumstances can lead to a depressing diet and depressing habits and activities. If I had to do psych first aid and couldn’t find anything I was familiar with, I’d send the individual to you, being too weird to be properly attentive, myself.
I don’t know about this. As a former 11 bangbang with a Combat Idiot’s Badge (the writer will know what those things are), Lieutenants were people trained for the mission to get me stupidly killed. Cannabis helped get me through my tour, but I hear they drug tested during his active service days, as they probably do now. By the way, before I went to the Land of the Little People, I washed out of OCS because I couldn’t look like an officer should.
But then I was in a different army in a different time.
He was also interested in unusual states of mind, building a collection of several hundred autobiographical books by mental patients, alcoholics and addicts, LGBT folks, including cross-dressers. He wrote reviews about a number of the individuals who appeared in the several hundred volumes in his collection (some, like Aliester Crowley, rather infamous). In his profession he started as a GI man, not a shrink, but became interested in the subject when he experienced a flow of patients with what we used to call psychosomatic gut problems over his GI years. The title of his book was *Minds that Came Back*
Not in the modern sense, but was was no Bible thumper or closet Nazi. He was very open minded for his day and even got his newspaper column demoted to remote regions of the NY Times for bad-mouthing psychoanalysis as a treatment.
And what, may I ask, is this effort to globalize psychiatric pseudo-medicine all about? Enlarging the market for pseudo-therapeutic drugs? Providing new territory for expanding pseudo-benevolence? Promoting careers delivering pseudo-benevolent solutions to solve local problems?
And I thought grandiosity was supposed to be a symptom of psychiatric pseudo-illnesses.
Acting weird on 10mg. Haldol? You were probably lucky you could act at all.
Think of Sun Tzu’s first maxim. “Know your enemy, know yourself and you can never be defeated.” Thus you can anticipate hostile actions and prepare yourself to avoid them or defeat them.
Imbalances can be a touchy subject here, because some of the contributors have confused real medicine with psychiatric pseudo-medicine, which doesn’t seem to grasp the idea that your mind functioning well is dependent on how well the rest of your body functions, thus ignoring things like metabolic imbalances, allergies and heavy metal poisoning as sources of mental disturbances.
Notice how none of our authorities have grasped that low calcium and/or Vitamin D3 might have anything to do with these mistreated “depressions” and the sorry results of pharmaceutical treatment.
Also notice how it presumes depression to be an independent entity unto itself, and not the result of one or more biological malfunctions that can induce it (also known as a syndrome that requires examination to realize the proper treatment).
This is the stuff you get when you believe that depression comes from some localized brain area’s simple malfunctioning, instead of presuming it to be a syndrome that can originate from one or more of a multitude of health related conditions. This seems to be some kind of Adventure in Psycho-neurology where it’s assumed one’s brain works exactly like a computer, where the brain is composed of isolated pieces that can be subjected to control by turning the right ones on and shutting the “wrong” ones off, like doing electrical repairs on your car or an appliance (click, click and all is well).
Not that radical. I’ve read stuff by the late Walter Alvarez, MD, written over 50 years ago on the same topic. He was hardly a left-wing radical, yet he treated the subject evenly, honestly concerning himself with how the matter affected those most affected by “unusual” sexual and gender preferences and beliefs. But then, he was an early advocate of Hoffer and Osmond’s megavitamin B3 therapy for schizophrenia syndrome.
The actual treatment for pyroluria can be quite cheap, as the basics are B6 and zinc, which aren’t patentable. The B6 is adjusted by increasing it until you remember your dreams, the zinc until you don’t get new white spots in your fingernails. Naturally, this process is too complex for modern pseudo-medical psychiatry and its galaxy of side effect inducing drugs.
Elizabeth D, I actually went to my orthomolecular site. Simple name-Orthomolecular. org. Site has directories of practitioners for every state.
Well, the DSM disorders have to do something, seeing as how they have no relationship to the proper treatment of the conditions they allegedly describe.
BPD is a prominent inhabitant of the diagnostic wastebasket, supported by hearsay. Like the other alleged psychiatric diagnoses, it’s a behavioral description that can arise from multiple origins. Its primary use is to get you kicked out of therapy because the therapist thinks you’re an untreatable (and maybe a shamming) geek who craves attention.
The Canadians have a site sponsored by their International Schizophrenia Foundation (you’ll have to look up the site’s name, as I can’t remember it offhand, having it in my library of programs so I don’t have to look). They have an index of Canadian practitioners, but I don’t know if they include US practitioners and their addresses as well. The guys I saw were all old at the time (40+ years ago) and I take care of myself, so I can’t really help you there.
This demonstrates why you should get the functional testing done early, BEFORE you go see conventional shrinks. If you’ve got to see a shrink, look for an orthomolecular practitioner- they’ll do functional testing as well, before they prescribe anything. Actually, some of these tests can be quite cheap- a lot cheaper than continuous visits to a conventional practitioner with an eternally ready prescription pad.
Since I don’t think that psychiatric “diagnoses” are real diagnoses, I find this article to have a certain “tempest in a teapot” quality. Unfortunately, it seems to reinforce the notion that “depression” is a real disease entity unto itself, which leads down countless blind alleys in the search for “treatments”, while ignoring the real issues in dealing with depressed moods.
It would be more of a surprise to discover antidepressants did work, since depression is just a behavioral description that can have many different causes. The one thing they do accomplish is magically transporting your money to pharmaceutical companies’ bank accounts.
Well, with most psychiatric drug based treatments, the patient never recovers, but now has this beef against anything claiming to be treatment and will do anything to avoid going back. The only plus about this stuff is that the treatment zombifies patients so they can’t do anything while you keep them around, vegetating for the rest of their lives, because you can never tell if the public will be safe from them.
I don’t know about psychology alone, but if you take your supplements, watch what you eat, avoid sweets and desserts and stay away from stimulants and hallucinogens, you can make a decent approximation without a great deal of difficulty.
Maybe a key editor took it unto himself to prove the mushrooms on the cow flop were edible.
One of the most depressing things about this, is that the pharmaceutical companies could likely prevent most, if not all of this by adding 1mg. of manganese (Mn) to every antipsychotic and (probably) SSRI tablet they produced. The antipsychotics chelate manganese out of the body- supplemental manganese seems to be an effective treatment for drug induced dyskinesia, suggesting it could be used to prevent same in smaller quantities. But then the added cost would reduce the companies’ profit margin on their drugs (AAAA!), certainly much more important than having patients who don’t twitch and compulsively march about for the rest of their lives.
You know, this wouldn’t happen so often if prescribers checked out symptoms quantitatively instead of simply prescribing to reduce the intensity of obvious mood changes. Antidepressants should never be prescribed to someone who has numerous perceptual changes going on in addition to mood disturbances, unless the prescriber gets a thrill out of his/her patients going through the ceiling as they become delusional.
It was a good thing you dropped out of that program. The types you encountered sounded like they could use some serious fist-to-nose therapy, which would definitely get you in trouble with the civil authorities.
I should have used a better example. Maybe the likelihood that copper poisoning and hallucinogen wipeout are both classed according to the DSM as “schizophrenia” but they have different successful treatments- the metal poisoning needs chelating agents, while the wipeout needs megavitamin B3 and ascorbate (the old Hoffer-Osmond special) to be successfully handled. Same diagnosis, different treatments.
Yes, that’s another one, but I didn’t want to get into some discussion about the “schizophrenias” featuring arguments about whether they exist or not, even though, for example, I know that lead and copper poisonings can result in symptomologies apparently identical to DSM’s “schizophrenia” diagnoses, but are better treated with D-pen (or the EDTA that food freezer processers use to keep their frozen produce products colorful by stripping them of their minerals) instead of psych drugs.
Not discussed was how differing “psychiatric” diagnoses can respond to the same treatment (no, I’m not talking about “psychiatric” treatments that leave patients semiconscious, at best). For example, B6 and zinc dependency can present as one (or more) differing psychiatric “diagnostic” entities, which will all respond to the same basic treatment. If you didn’t know the signs of this condition, which are likely to appear in any of the psych diagnostic classes, you wouldn’t be able to treat any of its manifestations properly.
Think of them as statistically normal, Steve.
Of course NAMI is corrupt. It needs to set the example for psychiatry that the goal is to become rich and powerful, not to properly diagnose and treat patients.
Well, today’s shrinks would certainly be appalled at the late Gertrude Black, MD, a GP who never used antidepressants for suicidal ideation. She’d give her patients 500mg. of B1, followed by 100mg. every hour until they’d had 500 more mg. of B1. She’d also be amused when shrinks would tell her patients they were glad that the patients were now taking their medications, when they’d actually gone months or years without them (she was an early orthomolecular practitioner, before the word “orthomolecular” was coined).
Over the years, I’ve noticed that a number of these shooter guys are likely hypoglycemic, as indicated by artifacts such as candy wrappers, pop and beer bottles, “Twinkie” type mini cakes, French fries and or bags they came in. Of course these aren’t “psychiatric” disorders, because they’re identified by physical testing, whereas “psychiatric” disorders are diagnosed by data messages from the Astral Plane.
Easy. You can trust them to benefit themselves at your expense.
This mentally ill monster knows that politicians want to have their cake (unlimited numbers and kinds of firearms floating around that anyone can own without a background check) and eat it, too (pretending to do something about mass shootings). Maybe it’s time for the Colombian clothiers who offer Kevlar fashions to expand their businesses to the US- Bogota haberdasheries might help revive the business climate in our malls.
Since I’m acquainted with assorted nutrient treatments for depression, I find this debate an interesting anachronism. Since I’d never go to an ordinary shrink, should I become depressed, and certainly never start on antidepressants, I think the debate is trivial- too bad so many individuals are suiciding on their medication.
If I were convalescing, I’d prefer going to the Earth House myself, but I’m probably a lot more prosaic than many of the MIA readers. I’m also less likely to extract philosophical meaning from the bulk of my dysperceptions, when I have them. I also have to be sometimes reminded to take my vitamins and avoid junk food.
Decades ago, Abram Hoffer began to treat such individuals with a program based around niacin, starting with a gent who’d been held by the Japanese for nearly 4 years. The response was so noticeable that he wound up treating a number of former concentration camp prisoners who’d been held by the Germans (Hoffer was Jewish, himself, which led to him getting a number of referrals of these individuals).
Someone didn’t pay attention to the positive qualities of “schizophrenics”, namely their immunity to viral diseases, among other things. But then, this had to be ignored, because it was made public by the psychiatric outlaws, Abram Hoffer and Humphry Osmond in their evil book *How to Live with Schizophrenia*, evil because it discussed the syndrome honestly and because it introduced the public to megavitamin therapy.
This present emphasis on genetics reminds me of those earlier guys’ attempts to prove the “White Man’s” right and duty to own the prime real estate and command the locals in regions where he’d turn into a delirious insane lobster if he spent an hour in the midday sun.
All the antipsychotic pushers need to do is warn us of the millions of undiagnosed psychotics who could be easily identified by their tics, twitches and added poundage if we permitted unlimited use of the drugs they’re pushing.
Makes too much sense for psychiatry to accept. Getting rid of the DSM and seeking real diagnoses, instead, would force wannabe psychiatrists to actually study real medicine instead of flippantly reeling off diagnoses, a serious blow to the profession and its numbers of practitioners.
Pretend there’s a convention of sideshow performers in town
Olanzapine? No wonder the exposure periods are so short- if they were long enough to simulate a real course of treatment, the experimenters would have an experimental group consisting of 300 pound subjects.
Not having either shrinks or therapists, I don’t have a problem there. Since I do use mega niacin, I occasionally find myself flushing in public, but can easily get away by telling the curious I’m taking it for my cholesterol. Since I live in a facility for seniors, I avoid “coming out”.
Did they ask you about alcohol? One minute you mention three drinks, and shortly afterward, just one. The landlord seems pretty jive, as are these supposed doctors who apparently never took a drinking history, whereas I, maybe because I’m of unsound mind, see a large neon sign that says *ALCOHOLIC BLACKOUT* as one of those flashing neon arrows points to you.
This is an example of what happens when you consider “depression” to be an entity unto itself instead of a symptom of some pathological process that can be identified and readily (for the most part) treated, frequently without the use of psych meds, once its origin can be pinpointed. It should be no surprise that the pseudo-biological explanation for depression given by the average shrink will tend to make patients more depressed.
You’re lucky to have found an occupational niche appropriate to your capabilities. My long acquaintance with orthomolecular medicine and its treatments make me unacceptable to supervisors and directors. Say, I’d get a depressed client with white spots on his/her nails, who doesn’t sleep well and doesn’t remember dreams- and out would come the B6 , zinc and magnesium. The pink slip would come several weeks later, when the case worker found out, no matter what the state of the client was.
Don’t forget the gun-toting mystique we’re subjected to in countless movies, TV shows and novels, where the hero snatches up Old Betsey and rides off to town to blow away dozens of heavies and henchmen, his Model 1873 containing hundreds of rounds of ammunition in the cylinder of his 6-shot revolver.
There aren’t “mental” illnesses, but plenty of physical ones that induce “mental” symptoms. Naturally, psych drugs are definitely not “treatments of choice” for them, nor are psychiatrists preferred consultants, knowing little about physical diseases and conditions.
It still wouldn’t hurt sexual minority individuals to become regular users of megascorbate, which antagonizes the paranoia inducing amphetamines and is likely also to reduce the level of adrenaline induced paranoia. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with suspicion, but carried to extremes, it can be incapacitating, making it harder to deal with real threats.
I still wonder if niacinamide might help in managing benzo withdrawal in somewhat the same fashion niacin can be used in managing alcohol withdrawal, which it both speeds up and reduces the likelihood of seizures and hallucinations in the process.
Niacinamide doesn’t work for alcohol withdrawal, but may work for benzos, occupying the same neural sites as the benzo molecules. You can also use niacinamide for things like anxiety instead of benzos, another clue to its possibilities. You’d have to use it for a long time, as benzos don’t like to gracefully leave our bodies, as many of you already know.
Are there any professionals willing to discuss the above notion, or should I go to an orthomolecular web site to broach the matter?
Pharmacological psychiatry is a better term. Your actual biology’s ignored (your own biochemicals can’t be patented, fortunately, as you could then be sued for patent infringement if they were), in favor of putting you on the pharma rep’s latest wonder drug (you’ll wonder why you’re on it).
What a sorry performance in both these cases! Is the idea of using calming B vitamins like niacinamide and minerals like calcium and magnesium so esoteric that only secret cabals know it? Or are the pharma detail man’s toys and trips to subtropical “conference” sites so hypnotizing that all else is forgotten?
Of course these journals are filled with spin. Medicine is now ideological. Successful treatment means treatments that enrich providers and (pharmaceutical) suppliers, not treatments that cure or improve the patient so much that (s)he doesn’t have to return for more treatment. Look how popular addictive psychiatric drugs have become, with no attempt ever made to eliminate these pharmaceuticals (though millions are spent promoting them).
He’d do a lot better to provide the vets with bottles of 100 mg. B1, bottles of 500mcg. B12 sublingual and maybe 500 mg. niacinamide tablets. It would be cheaper than Esketamine and probably just as effective, though it wouldn’t get you stoned.
When I first saw your circumstantial complaints, I began to think B6, zinc, magnesium and B complex 100’s, the B6 for interrupted sleep cycles, the zinc and magnesium for anxiety and the B100’s on general principles. I’m impressed with the impressive number of drugs they gave you and how miserable the results were. I’m also impressed with the court martial I’d get if I were in your unit when I made suggestions you did something like the above and also suggested the use of my HOD test to monitor your condition.
Could this be something like tardive dyskinesia, which occurs when the nervous system becomes maladapted to or in the presence of antipsychotics?
You probably have that right. Nothing is more likely to raise our “biological” psychiatrists’ hackles than verification of Hoffer and Osmond’s adrenochrome hypothesis, as it was probably officially “refuted” by the prior generation’s “experts”. That the treatment the pair used didn’t involve patented “antipsychotic” drugs probably made it even less acceptable.
The reader should also realize that antipsychotic drugs raise the user’s estrogen levels, which will the chances of the user contracting cancer.
Since “depression” isn’t a disease unto itself, but a syndrome that can have one or more of a number of origins, the ineffectuality of antidepressants comes as no surprise. What is surprising are these individuals puffing them as lifesaving drugs, without knowing anything about the syndrome, itself, because there are different causes for depressed moods with correspondingly different treatments (although Anderson Cooper may not believe it) that are likely to work far better than antidepressants could ever hope to.
Better start your vitamins, lads and lassies. If you’re poor, better get used to the niacin flush. Time to stay away from those junk food items you have such a craving for. Better get used to fresh foods and thoughtful grocery shopping and reading the small print on those package labels. Exercising won’t hurt, but ditch those multivitamins with copper in them. Better avoid those who are certain you’ll face serious harm by doing the above things, while simultaneously feeding you rubbish about the RDA’s. Better find a nutritionally oriented professional.
Writers used to comment about Nicholas II, last Tsar of all the Russians, gazing into a speaker’s eyes. Of course he had nothing to say at all, save maybe a platitude at the end of the speech to him.
Nowadays, you don’t have many neuroscientists who openly admit to taking hallucinogens, because it would be a black mark on their careers. And they certainly can’t admit these substances can provide any useful information about how your brain works, because that would also be a similar career black mark.
You could start by being more aware of the characteristics of the people you know and those who you meet, without being overwhelmed by connections and simple degree of education.
It would probably be a good idea for MIA fans to read the late Humphry Osmond’s book *Models of Madness, Models of Medicine* if they can find a copy, giving them the ability to see that the alleged “biomedical” model held by Big-Time Psychiatry is actually a muddled model of “combined” medical and moral models. This can be easily noticed when you hear some lecturing shrink carry on about “diseases of behavior”, a term that deserves the Punch in the Nose Award for smug ignorance. Real medicine has limited goals, not grandiose notions about universal morality and ethics.
Treatment successful! Case closed!
Of course these brilliant scientists are paying no attention to how poverty effects one’s diet and exposure to environmental pollutants. If they did, they’d be likely to discover the horrifying fact that some poor people might be just as smart as they are, leading to shock and horror among our alleged intellectual elites, now forced to build concentration camps to prove their original assumptions. My friend, Dr. Joe, a high school drop out with a PhD, would get quite a charge out of their terror, should his degree hide his status.
Steve. Maybe you haven’t been following the political screeds, as there’s a powerful right-wing sect that promotes the notion that all human activity should be based on how much income is generated from it by and for involved individuals, themselves (Donald Trump is morally superior to Jesus because he’s a billionaire and Jesus was penniless) and nothing else matters. This may help you understand the psychiatric mentality that passes for therapeutic success- it’s how much revenue your patient generates, not whether or not (s)he returns to anything resembling sanity and usefulness.
This brain asymmetry stuff is the kind of nonsense you get from trying to treat depression as an independent entity instead of a syndrome induced by a variety of causes.
This is a tale of psychiatric ineptitude. No wonder psych patients don’t recover- these alleged professionals didn’t even bother to quantify his level of depression, something a quack like me could get an estimate for in about 20 minutes, using his trusty HOD test during the first contact with an individual.
I also found those “treatments” pretty ghastly, being addressed to relieving the many side effects of the many prior treatments. I wonder how much money the pharmaceutical companies made off this individual with the medics’ casual attitude toward this alleged treatment.
Well, you wouldn’t want them to put their alcoholics on niacin, would you? This was why the AA medical bureaucrats decided that Bill Wilson was senile, because he advocated it after it removed a depression that bothered him for years and also persuaded a few dozen of his AA buddies to try it, with 2/3 of them reporting positive results. He was also pals of renegade shrinks like Hoffer (“Doctor Niacin”) and Humphry Osmond (creator of the word “psychedelic”- Bill had had LSD in the early 1960’s and became interested in the psychedelic therapy of those days, of which both were pioneers.
E. Fuller Torrey has an excuse. He’s never, himself, consumed any of the drugs he advocates, nor, I suspect, ever taken hallucinogens himself, to experience the patients’ world.
I wouldn’t know where they got such numbers, either. I never saw such numbers in my CJ classes back in the 1990’s. The National Review, etc. don’t seem to realize that when people become really bananas, they lose the mental organization needed to prepare a grocery list, not to mention the mental organization needed to make a complicated plan to carry out a mass shooting requiring the slow accumulation of weapons and ammunition.
Since our beloved “thought leaders” aren’t quite certain themselves about what will make ill individuals potentially dangerous, the idea they can program a machine appropriately seems more than a trifle grandiose, since an AI machine can’t function properly without proper programming.