At least part of this is due to “schizophrenia” not being a single disease entity, so that these studies are attempts to find single “causes” for the existence of a polyglot entity. There should be no surprised all these sub-entities have confused seekers looking for for a single one.
This reminds me of a gentleman some friends of mine picked up while he was hitchhiking. He was a gay gent who happened to have a black belt in taekwando. When he was in a nasty mood, he’d go to a trashy bar in the heart of his hometown, where if he heard patrons badmouthing homosexuals, he’d flame on, and when the badmouthing patrons became irritated, he’d suddenly pay for his drink and leave, right after they’d ordered, which would give him time to get a head start on them.
When they came out, they’d see him dart down a nearby alley he’d previously scouted. If they followed, it meant they were actually headed for the local hospital’s emergency room as new patients, instead of heading for giving this queer the beating they thought he deserved.
Am I correct in suspecting that no effort was made to identify the origins of these suspected depressions? Depressed mood can arrive from numerous origins that naturally have numerous proper treatments- am I thinking of them because I’m a psychiatric mechanic and not a shrink or social worker?
You were likely high in serum copper and low in zinc, a common feature at the end of pregnancies. Psychiatrists aren’t going to tell you this because you’re chances of making them money will become limited, at best, should it be true. Zinc, B6, C and B-complex aren’t going to finance those MD vacation trips by themselves.
As a known practitioner of Crtimethink, I’m obliged to agree with you here, Steve.
It’s probably best to start with a hair sample to see what your manganese levels actually are, because you want to start with larger amounts, which you’ll then decrease when your symptomology does, as excess manganese can cause the same symptoms as the drug- induced dyskinesias- best to see if there’s an orthomolecular practitioner in your neighborhood who knows what they’re doing.
You wouldn’t want doctors treating TD with manganese, now, would you? It works when properly used but doesn’t provide the big bucks for manufacturers that having a patented drug does.
Looks like people seeking the “psychedelic experience” should devote their “pre-tripping” time to scaring up a copy of *The Hallucinogens*, by Hoffer and Osmond, which discusses psychedelic therapy in some detail, including contraindications for the use of these drugs. The book is now quite rare, as it was too pedestrian for both enthusiasts and enemies of psychedelic use.
The Hoffer/Osmond Diagnostic (HOD) test is still around, fortunately. If you have an orthomolecular therapist in town, he/she may have one, if you don’t know a weirdo like me, who also has one. (It was a screening instrument used to screen Canadian alcoholics in H&O’s tests of psychedelic therapy).
Well, if you were going to walk around in a cast 24 hours a day, it would seem that the likelihood you’d break the leg not in a cast would rise, particularly if you had to use stairs, as the cast would give you difficulties balancing while going up or down.
That’s what they’re called, but they hardly were. Unusual, yes- MD was Hoffer’s second doctorate, while Osmond spent the years that would have been a psychiatric residency as a ship’s surgeon crossing and recrossing the Atlantic on the convoys.
What is also missed is that Hoffer never had psychiatric training and that basic megavitamin therapy also used vitamin C, as well as B3.
I bet that Timothy Leary never went to a Peyote Ceremony, like old Humphry did, back in the 1950’s.
You just have to realize who’s considering someone else crazy and why.
The word was supposed to be “properly”- sorry about that.
Did any of these acolytes study the work of Hoffer and Osmond, who ran an LSD based program for alcoholics in Saskatchewan back in the 1960’s?
It appears not, as the acolytes still don’t know how to screen their patients perioerly, a process that eventually took the Canadians less than an hour, and which I’ve learned to do by myself. I even have an HOD test, which I’ve used for that purpose.
The Personality Disorder- a proud inhabitant of the Diagnostic Wastebasket. Need we say more?
The interesting thing about this as that wild psychedelics live in practically every state and in probably especially in most states where cattle owners pasture their herds.
I’d prefer New Jersey’s Earth House, if it’s still around. It places as much interest in your biophysical environment as the Soteria Houses do in your psychosocial environment, but not with filling you with the latest pharmaceuticals (or the older ones, for that matter.
This should come as no surprise. These skewed groups of “undesirables” are the usual subjects for drug toxicity tests, which they’ve been for decades (if not for centuries?). That they’re used for testing hallucinogens is just par for the course, even though they make poor subjects for testing these substances as our “powers that be” knew nothing about the contraindications for hallucinogen use (and probably because of it).
If you’re worried about eating disorders, I’d suggest reading as much, and as much about Theron Randolph, MD, as you can, as these guys taking as much of your bank accounts as they could get their hands on are relying on caricatures of his work to put you on caricature (but certainly expensive and useless) diets. You may have to look pretty hard, as his salad days were back in the 1950’s, and he wasn’t popular then, either.
You should probably head to the nearest Reservation in your neck of the woods, to see if the Native American Church has a congregation operative there. The practicing members don’t seem to be running around acting strangely- I’d much rather have a chapter in my home town than to have a Klan chapter within a hundred miles (actually 1,000 miles) of my residence.
The one really great thing these drugs do is induce the symptoms of tardive dyskinesia although I don’t know much about their “therapeutic” power.
These accounts demonstrate total ineptitude on the part of the aforementioned “treating” shrinks. It’s guys like those in my home town who leave me the town’s leading “psychiatrist” on occasion, even though I’ve never been to medical school and obviously can’t legally get “psych” drugs unless I wanted to grow rauwolfia at home. I can certainly diagnose better than these “men of medicine” (I do have an HOD test, after all, which they’d believe to be total nonsense).
What I find amusing is the pseudo-double blind, which is frequently used to show that niacin is ineffective in treating the “schizophrenias”. What happens is that the placebo is some inert substance, making the flushing from the B3 a “tell” that you’re not in the placebo group and “unblinding” the experiment. Since the “experimenters” want the experimental process to fail, they never use stuff like niacinamide or inositol nicotinate to make their experiments truly blind, while doggedly insisting on the validity of their “experiments”.
I, too, am aware that the GOP isn’t filled with geeks. Unfortunately, the geeks seem to have taken over Party ideology, so that anyone who disagrees with them is automatically a dangerous traitor and agent of the Deep State, a Socialist infiltrator trying to destroy Party unity, and national ideology and social cohesion as well.
We aren’t dealing with coherent thought here. Even though there may be many excuses, I’d like the positive psychology addicts to tell me why unmedicated “schizophrenics” don’t get cancer, unlike the “healthy minded”, who frequently die of it before spreading their valuable genes throughout the universe.
This is an effort that fits into GOP social ideology. Remember that we’re dealing with a political party that advocates the Giant Firefight as an “anti-crime” measure in which so many people are armed that the most trivial disruption of the Urban Force will arouse the Armed Multitudes into blasting furiously away- unaware that “spray and pray” shooting is not a good notion to foster in crowded urban settings.
All this frenzied effort Mr. Dole, et. al. had to endure reminds me of the days I was treating various individuals for distorted perceptions with basic B3 and C therapy. Having read Linus Pauling and David Hawkins, MD, I made a point of warning the proper “clients” who I knew were gay, that gay males receiving megavitamins sometimes found that their sexual orientations involuntarily changed, and that I couldn’t do anything about this side effect of treatment, as I was dealing with his dysperceptions, instead.
Now, I find that Mr. Dole has had to undergo years of useless punitive treatment at the hands of bunglers with MD degrees in attempts to achieve, what for me, was a routine hazard of my sideline practices.
If I was to be named on this list of “authorities”, I’d want the creators of said list to use an alias instead of my real name.
Well, we do know that the executors of this defective study were praying for a hopeful outcome, which is why they went to such contortions in their attempts to find one.
Hoffer, and his buddy Humphry Osmond did a lot of that early research while both were in Saskatchewan, back in the 1950’s and early 1960’s. Were it not for the US DEA, psychedelic therapy would likely still be around in Canada.
Before I got too psychic, I’d try to find out if my client was low in magnesium, which I’d have to do with a therapeutic trial of magnesium salts.
Bad ideas in action. There’s no pleasure in this compulsive eating- it has more of the mental attributes of a necessity, like a compulsion of any kind.
You’ll be even more indignant when you realize these shrinks willfully remain ignorant of the basics of nutritional psychiatry, because the practitioner’s mind is closed to anything outside of what he learned in school or company-sponsored seminars.
I don’t know about akathisia, but I do know that GP’s most likely know squat about dysperceptions, so they don’t ask. They also don’t know about quantitative testing before “diagnosing”, so they wind up giving antidepressants to individuals who, unknown to them,. are showing early signs of the schizophrenia syndrome, the precise group whose individuals are most likely to lose their marbles when medicated with these drugs.
This is also likely to happen to shrinks with the same diagnostic problem difficulties, only they’re better at coming up with excuses than the GP’s.
I notice that these learned individuals made no mention of things like heavy metal poisoning, which can provoke real hyperactive behavior. But those are treatable with routine stuff like D-pen, which don’t have to be continued for decades. There are likely to be other things that induce “hyperactivity”, because “ADHD” is just a description and not a real diagnosis.
Niacinamide and C may be able to ease the hallucinations used at the basic level of 3g/day for each (1g ea. TID in doctorspeak) You shouldn’t flush, like you would with niacin (which is why I didn’t suggest it, instead of the amide). And you won’t go on the nod, like you did with the meds.
The problem isn’t lack of ability or keeping peer respect, but trying to convince a straight supervisor that I actually know what I’m doing with stuff and methods (s)he’s probably never seen or heard of, unless (s)he’s read a screed about quackery.
This is why I don’t listen to mental health professionals who like to tell me I’m going to seriously poison myself taking several grams of niacin and an equal amount of vitamin C every day, instead of their allegedly therapeutic drugs.
Alas, there’s no place for me among the peer specialists, as I recognize the principles of orthomolecular medicine and wouldn’t hesitate to use high levels of certain vitamins and minerals in treating some conditions, thereby making me an Evil Sorcerer of mental health who uses forbidden enchantments and substances, following the guidance of the renegade High Priests Hoffer and Osmond, and who should therefore be kept away from the “mentally ill”.
Psychiatric research isn’t going anywhere soon, because, for one, shrinks seem to believe their “diagnoses” are of real ailments. Kryptopyrolle (“mauve factor”) isn’t regarded as a biomarker because the positive results fall into different “diagnostic categories”, even though all the “categories” respond to the same B6+ zinc treatment.
Maybe it’s time to go “orthomolecular”. Although these individuals are heavily into biochemistry, they’re not believers in “therapeutic” drugs, but are heavy into the use of diet and/or nutrients for both acute and maintenance therapy. They’re also not fond of psychiatric “diagnoses” either. You might even learn things you weren’t taught in school.
It’s spelled “etiologies”. Some of us have better things to do than reiterate what clowns most shrinks are. That’s likely to be a given, anyway.
So this is a British idea in which one of their cops is a leader in the alleged treatment team. Too bad that most of the pohmies (Prisoners of Her Majesty’s Empire) I’ve talked to seem to believe that their officers are generally nitwits (one of the major reasons they don’t wear sidearms) who they wouldn’t trust to give them the correct time of day, much less listen and respond properly to their accounts of personal misery.
My mother had to endure her share of this when a psychologist decided that (a.) I was a schizophrenic and (b.) it was due to some kind of parental fumbling on her part. It wasn’t until a number of years later that I found out I’d been poisoned by copper-contaminated drinking water that made me dysperceptive as a result.
Maybe it’s whether you argue with your audios and how much you actually do (argue with them).
No- the trainees shrinks need to know more about medical illnesses that masquerade as psychiatric/ psychological “illnesses” than they do sociological difficulties, although they have to be aware of such things in any case.
You’ve got my vote.
He needs supervisors on nutrients, where they feel so good they aren’t thinking of suddenly stopping and letting their thoughts turn into jello.
For alcohol related issues, plain old nicotinic acid B3 is the substance of choice, particularly for withdrawals. I don’t know if flush-free B3, (inositol hexanicotinate?) would work as well, as I’m used to flush-filled nicotinic acid after several decades of using it, myself.
I’d say the researchers are too simple to study their subject’s background and the employers so greedy they’d sell their children at the drop of a hat, if it paid well.
Oops.
B1 is for beriberi.
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One supplement for withdrawals that I know of is the use of mega niacin for alcohol withdrawals, having overseen a couple of them, when the friends of an individual whose style involved going cold turkey and collapsing on the street became worried and contacted me, knowing I had assisted in preventing adverse drug/alcohol reactions in others.
So- at last, another weirdo like me who believes that your diet plays an important role in maintaining or regaining one’s sanity. I’ve occasionally wondered if I lived on the same planet as some of the other commentators.
Don’t forget, sam, about its valuable use in covering up psychiatric treatment failures, helping the therapist feel less like the incompetent (s)he very likely is.
Not to worry about your BPD “diagnosis”, a proud inhabitant of the diagnostic wastebasket that’s usually given when the doctor has no idea what’s going on.
Journey into the surreal. Big Time Psychiatry and You. And they’ll tell you you know nothing and you’d better be forking over the billions to get to Psychiatric Heaven (maybe). And if anything bad happens to you, it’s your fault because you weren’t zombie enough and had a mind of your own.
The thought that “schizophrenics” are reacting to altered perceptions in a way that would be normal if we knew their components, seems too complex for shrinks to understand. Of course, an introduction to altered perceptions via hallucinogenic experience seems to be too dangerous for the psychiatric mind to understand. Maybe it’s too scary and they’re afraid of becoming permanently bonkers in the twinkling of an eye.
You have to distinguish the difference between science and scientism. The only real connection between science and scientism are the letters s, c, i, e, and n. Scientism is a dogma that claims the infallibility of past and present scientific conclusions, while actual science seeks to know if such conclusions are really true.
I’m just a psychiatric mechanic and not really good at providing spiritual comfort, but I do wonder about her B12 levels.
Well, John. If our politicians actually did do something serious about addiction, they wouldn’t have anything serious to campaign about during their following election campaign seasons, now, would they.
Well, if one is a real peer and knows what they’re doing, they’d be likely to be treated with fear and suspicion until they’re canned by their overseeing professionals, no matter what the degree of improvement was ever found in their subjects. I remember the underlying terror in my superiors’ eyes when they discovered I was likely responsible for a couple of their subjects graduating from an alcohol/drug treatment program when they weren’t supposed to (well, I probably was the perpetrator) after they’re “diagnoses” were that the pair were hopeless cases and bound to stay that way. Although they wanted to know how I did it, I became so peeved I didn’t tell them I simply used niacinamide, 3g/day for both of them (I worked PM shifts, so it was easy to secretly treat them). I was also worried they’d try to keep me from getting unemployment because I was “medicating” residents.
Being on vitamins for 45 years, I find myself reading the psychiatric excuses for this sort of thing amusing, in a dark sort of way. If these Big Time Shrinks found out about me, they’d beg me to stop poisoning myself and get into proper treatment with safe proper drugs. This article helps me realize that Big Time Psychiatry is led by delusional medicos (and who’d want to be doped up by delusional individuals with poisonous neurochemicals?).
“But in the article context I don’t know what their training was like”. Think monkey see, monkey do and you’ll be right on the money (monkey?).
I’d prefer the Earth House in New Jersey, where the emphasis is upon improving your mental health by improving your physical health, but then I’m this site’s materialist (and New Jersey’s a lot closer than California).
I should also mention how unstable blood sugar can also induce “mental” symptoms that probably won’t be caught by many therapists- also a reason to avoid refined carbs, sweets, caffeine and the like, sometimes hard to do in Britain with its regular 4PM tea and sugary cookies’ ritual (aka carbs, sucrose and caffeine).
I suspect you didn’t have any of those alleged diagnoses you got when you were a patient, but maybe some kind of cerebral allergy that might have been relieved by the special diet you were put on in England, in which junk food levels were low or nonexistent. You can probably see similar things in some of the patients you sit for. Look for them, as it will give you something to do and also give you the outside chance to do things for the food sensitive “psychiatric” patients. In the meantime, stay away from caffeine, as it’s likely to increase your emotional lability (in addition to the institutional junk food).
I’m glad I’m not presently depressed. I’d hate to put my sanity into the hands of psychological and psychiatric fumblers and bumblers.
It’s a hard subject to discuss, because the individuals who know the most are either outlaws like Hoffer and Osmond were, or members of a despised race, like the members of the Native American Church.
I find this to be more than a trifle bizarre. Did it come on because one of the side effects of modern antipsychotics is that your weight doubles if you’re on them for any length of time, thanks to a now ravenous appetite? I think ads promoting this might have an amusing bizarre motif, maybe featuring “testimonials” from obese spokespeople (“before I saw the shrink, I only weighed 97 pounds-now I’m 300, at least!”) who were once anorexics.
Have these scholars realized they just provided a rationale for fasting and diets selected to inhibit inflammatory food reactions? They’re doing the unthinkable- providing treatments for some conditions other than patented psych drugs.
Hard to say, as the late Carl Pfeiffer was an orthomolecular guy, who, like Abram Hoffer, had a large part of his patient load consisting of other people’s treatment failures. It would also depend on exposure to anticholinergic drugs- of course the antipsychotics raise your histamine level, but the drugs for suppressing their side effects don’t.
Yes, but you could handle a gigantic client load if you only had to see many of them once, or for a few times.
ETC is hanging around the same way muzzle loading artillery did. The technology of the first half of the 19th Century wasn’t developed enough to develop a breech strong enough to handle the explosive burst of artillery propellant without disintegrating the gun.
Maybe their internal adrenochrome has kicked in. It is a metabolic product.
These guys would do well to learn about supernutrition, which would fit into their program well, as they are interested in their residents’ (“patient” doesn’t work well here) physical and mental well being.
So you never examine your “ADHD” sufferers to see if they might have elevated lead, even though that’s known to produce hyperactivity. Of course you don’t believe in using hair samples to test for trace mineral levels, because an “authority” who has never used them pronounced them to be useless.
Psychiatrists, despite this jive about chemical imbalances, also tend to miss the ones that are there. One of the most striking ones, in my experience, made the news about 45 years ago, when a chronic patient in one of our state facilities, had his hair turn green, to the amazement of all. He’d been vegetating in the back wards for years and nobody paid any attention to him until his hair turned green. I don’t know if any of the savants of the day realized he had Wilson’s Disease after his hair turned green, but none of them seemed to realize what was going on at the time and I was only beginning to study trace mineral levels and mental functioning and I only found out what was going on when I realized the consequences of Wilsons Disease (inability to excrete copper).
It’s people like those that you mentioned who are the reasons(?) that I’m periodically the best “psychiatrist” in my home town, despite never having been to medical school nor graduate school, unable to prescribe any drugs, much less psych drugs, have no office and have never taken up popular psych fads in decades.
We’re dealing with feeble and inept “experts” here.
This comes as no surprise as tame company-inspired shrinks aren’t going to inquire about much of anything beyond the company backed “symptom questionnaire” in their initial interviews, which means they won’t catch perceptual distortions that should influence proper treatments- and are also a contraindication for antidepressant prescribing.
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I’ve enjoyed what Abram Hoffer did when illness compelled him to stop working. He willed his patients to his secretary, who had picked up a doctorate in Naturopathic Medicine while working for him for 30 or so years. On several occasions, in his articles he’d remarked how she was frequently better with his patients than he was.
Adrenochrome would be the perfect candidate for the shrinks- it lasts a long time and you lose insight that you’re buzzed so you can have strange thoughts and do strange things without realizing they are strange. Plus, it isn’t a psychedelic.
I’d probably enjoy being a specialist, but I’d never get by, because of a drawback the author didn’t mention- that of the specialist being more knowledgeable than his/her professional, something similar to owning a dog who was smarter than you were.
I’d already had such an experience at my last MH related job at a residential treatment center for substance abusers, where a new hire had run a gent who’d deliberately cut himself to the hospital, leaving the other residents behind, and one of them called me.
The next afternoon I was sitting in the flunkies’ office wondering if B3 would help this guy, when another resident came to the door and asked me it I thought he was schizophrenic, so I gave him a session with my HOD test, which I kept on the property at the time, and he scored in the “schizophrenic” range, so I suggested he see about B3 (amide, because it doesn’t induce flushing) and educate himself with How to Live with Schizophrenia.
He began to take the B3, whereupon the cutting guy became fascinated and started the B3 himself, both getting 3g/afternoon (only on my shift) unbeknownst to the clinical staff. Both graduated from the program, despite an assessment from the clinical staff on their admissions that neither would.
Naturally, the clinicians called me on the carpet, upset that their residents both graduated despite their awful prognoses (they must have talked to their new graduates, baffled that they were graduating), making awful faces and noises. I refused to tell them, as I suspected they’d accuse me of medicating their patients and I wanted my unemployment free of having to dispute them, as B3 isn’t a drug, plus, I didn’t want to keep my job in order to watch patients fail their treatments out of staff ignorance.
The real problem for psychiatry in reviving psychedelic therapy is how to ignore and/or denigrate the work of Hoffer and Osmond, who not only gave us the words “hallucinogen” (Hoffer) and “psychedelic” (Osmond), but devised a psychedelic treatment for alcoholism that the Province of Saskatchewan adopted, until the US Drug Enforcement Authority forced it to stop.
These evil geniuses not only devised this treatment, but also methods of quick initial screening to ensure the safety of their subjects (the infamous HOD test I sometimes mention here in MIA, plus items that can be quickly picked up on during an initial interview).
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No problem seen here. When you’re “seriously mentally ill” is when you’re most likely to have become “cosmetically” ill, where you look and act crazy enough so that the most casual observer can tell you aren’t “playing with a full deck”.
Picture yourself as a clerk in a gun store when George Washington, complete with the skin-tight pants and tri-cornered hat rushes into your store demanding to buy an AK or M16 lookalike because British agents are following him down the street and he needs to run them off by showing them he’s armed and carrying hundreds of rounds of ammunition preloaded into 30-shot magazines. Unless you belong to some outfit like the Proud Boys, who don’t believe people with native ancestry are real Americans and that monstrous conspiracies involving thousands of secret members are running our governments, the proposed sale is a no go.
If he treated his patients with voodoo, he’s liable to have more success that a shrink using the newest academic methods.
More like a sorry bunch of fumblers who are able to convince the public they know what they’re doing. As an orthomolecular outlaw, I try to avoid such individuals, not hard to do when you use niacin for perceptual distortions (aka schizophrenia syndrome), or magnesium for anxiety (assorted “personality” disorders). The hard thing to do is not bad mouthing some speaker who doesn’t know what he’s talking about and you know it and (s)he is unaware of their ignorance.
Study after medical school and after getting that license seems to be a rare effort. Nobody seems to know squat about postpartum depression, so they don’t realize they’re not dealing with a “mood disorder” that’s best not treated with psych drugs, but with zinc (and maybe B6 to get the zinc working) to excise the excess serum copper, the likely source of postpartum depressions, and probably various other nutrients.
You failed because you overlooked the big bucks in store for manufacturers and providers, should one of them find the Philosopher’s Antidepressant that actually works. Sorry I didn’t realize my first comment loaded OK.
You failed because you overlooked the big bucks in store for providers and manufacturers alike. Much of this manufacturing labor is done in search of the big financial killing, should the Philosopher’s Antidepressant be eventually discovered by the company that can successfully ride the waves of adversity in the search for this Miracle Medication.
Well, personalized treatment for “depression” is possible, but it’s not going to be with drugs alone. Since “depression” is a syndrome and not a disease unto itself, it’s necessary to find out what’s inducing it, in order to provide proper and appropriate treatment.
“Precision psychiatry” might have some merit, but not when it’s inextricably linked to pharmacological “treatments” and “cures”. There are many things outside the brain that can induce disordered emotions and moods, but not that many that will succumb to pharmacological agents alone.
I’ve come across the use of manganese salts for movement disorders related to psych drugs in 30 year old Journals of Orthomolecular Medicine. I realize that psychiatry is slow to grasp simple medical realities, but this is ridiculous. Of course, this is understandable because there are no megabucks to be realized in treating complex diseases with simple (home?) treatments, but this is indeed ridiculous.
Izumi was just the architect, but Humphry Osmond, superintendent at nearby Weyburn, one of the worst mental institutions in the world when he first took over, was a pioneer in letting his patients go to town when they wanted to.
I wonder if any of the architects decided to approximate patients’ experiences in a mental institution by walking around in one while under the influence of hallucinogens. It’s not that unusual- a chap name Kiyo Izumi spent time in the old Saskatchewan institution at Weyburn, while under the influence of LSD, to see how the patients experienced the place. This is before he designed one of North America’s first new hospitals in Yorkton, Saskatchewan
Since I’ve read a number of pieces by and about Temple Grandin, I’ve drifted away from popular notions about autism, although the squeeze machine sounds like an interesting idea.
Well, the first thing overlooked was that depression isn’t a disease at all, but a syndrome-a collection of signs and symptoms that can have any of multiple origins as causes. This is why antidepressants are frequently useless or harmful, particularly for “PPD”, which is frequently brought on by copper excess, or “dysperceptive depression”, where the doctor doesn’t notice, or ignores his/her patient’s perceptual status and ongoing perceptual distortions and/or irregularities.
Your experimental group would have probably done even better had the experimenters done things like trace mineral analyses and testing perceptual stability to determine what nutrients to use for each member of your experimental group, but that would deprive the experimenters efforts to put uniform groups together.
Steve. You’re probably right about these awareness campaigns, but that’s easy for me to say, as I’m one of the least likely readers to seek the “mental health assistance” the spokespeople are usually talking about. I doubt if the professionals would like to see individuals seeking mental health assistance at the supplements’ counter of their local pharmacies or big box stores, or even going to the pharmacy counter to ask for bulk 500mg. niacin in the 1000 tablet bottle.
At least part of this is due to “schizophrenia” not being a single disease entity, so that these studies are attempts to find single “causes” for the existence of a polyglot entity. There should be no surprised all these sub-entities have confused seekers looking for for a single one.
This reminds me of a gentleman some friends of mine picked up while he was hitchhiking. He was a gay gent who happened to have a black belt in taekwando. When he was in a nasty mood, he’d go to a trashy bar in the heart of his hometown, where if he heard patrons badmouthing homosexuals, he’d flame on, and when the badmouthing patrons became irritated, he’d suddenly pay for his drink and leave, right after they’d ordered, which would give him time to get a head start on them.
When they came out, they’d see him dart down a nearby alley he’d previously scouted. If they followed, it meant they were actually headed for the local hospital’s emergency room as new patients, instead of heading for giving this queer the beating they thought he deserved.
Am I correct in suspecting that no effort was made to identify the origins of these suspected depressions? Depressed mood can arrive from numerous origins that naturally have numerous proper treatments- am I thinking of them because I’m a psychiatric mechanic and not a shrink or social worker?
You were likely high in serum copper and low in zinc, a common feature at the end of pregnancies. Psychiatrists aren’t going to tell you this because you’re chances of making them money will become limited, at best, should it be true. Zinc, B6, C and B-complex aren’t going to finance those MD vacation trips by themselves.
As a known practitioner of Crtimethink, I’m obliged to agree with you here, Steve.
It’s probably best to start with a hair sample to see what your manganese levels actually are, because you want to start with larger amounts, which you’ll then decrease when your symptomology does, as excess manganese can cause the same symptoms as the drug- induced dyskinesias- best to see if there’s an orthomolecular practitioner in your neighborhood who knows what they’re doing.
You wouldn’t want doctors treating TD with manganese, now, would you? It works when properly used but doesn’t provide the big bucks for manufacturers that having a patented drug does.
Looks like people seeking the “psychedelic experience” should devote their “pre-tripping” time to scaring up a copy of *The Hallucinogens*, by Hoffer and Osmond, which discusses psychedelic therapy in some detail, including contraindications for the use of these drugs. The book is now quite rare, as it was too pedestrian for both enthusiasts and enemies of psychedelic use.
The Hoffer/Osmond Diagnostic (HOD) test is still around, fortunately. If you have an orthomolecular therapist in town, he/she may have one, if you don’t know a weirdo like me, who also has one. (It was a screening instrument used to screen Canadian alcoholics in H&O’s tests of psychedelic therapy).
Well, if you were going to walk around in a cast 24 hours a day, it would seem that the likelihood you’d break the leg not in a cast would rise, particularly if you had to use stairs, as the cast would give you difficulties balancing while going up or down.
That’s what they’re called, but they hardly were. Unusual, yes- MD was Hoffer’s second doctorate, while Osmond spent the years that would have been a psychiatric residency as a ship’s surgeon crossing and recrossing the Atlantic on the convoys.
What is also missed is that Hoffer never had psychiatric training and that basic megavitamin therapy also used vitamin C, as well as B3.
I bet that Timothy Leary never went to a Peyote Ceremony, like old Humphry did, back in the 1950’s.
You just have to realize who’s considering someone else crazy and why.
The word was supposed to be “properly”- sorry about that.
Did any of these acolytes study the work of Hoffer and Osmond, who ran an LSD based program for alcoholics in Saskatchewan back in the 1960’s?
It appears not, as the acolytes still don’t know how to screen their patients perioerly, a process that eventually took the Canadians less than an hour, and which I’ve learned to do by myself. I even have an HOD test, which I’ve used for that purpose.
The Personality Disorder- a proud inhabitant of the Diagnostic Wastebasket. Need we say more?
The interesting thing about this as that wild psychedelics live in practically every state and in probably especially in most states where cattle owners pasture their herds.
I’d prefer New Jersey’s Earth House, if it’s still around. It places as much interest in your biophysical environment as the Soteria Houses do in your psychosocial environment, but not with filling you with the latest pharmaceuticals (or the older ones, for that matter.
This should come as no surprise. These skewed groups of “undesirables” are the usual subjects for drug toxicity tests, which they’ve been for decades (if not for centuries?). That they’re used for testing hallucinogens is just par for the course, even though they make poor subjects for testing these substances as our “powers that be” knew nothing about the contraindications for hallucinogen use (and probably because of it).
If you’re worried about eating disorders, I’d suggest reading as much, and as much about Theron Randolph, MD, as you can, as these guys taking as much of your bank accounts as they could get their hands on are relying on caricatures of his work to put you on caricature (but certainly expensive and useless) diets. You may have to look pretty hard, as his salad days were back in the 1950’s, and he wasn’t popular then, either.
You should probably head to the nearest Reservation in your neck of the woods, to see if the Native American Church has a congregation operative there. The practicing members don’t seem to be running around acting strangely- I’d much rather have a chapter in my home town than to have a Klan chapter within a hundred miles (actually 1,000 miles) of my residence.
The one really great thing these drugs do is induce the symptoms of tardive dyskinesia although I don’t know much about their “therapeutic” power.
These accounts demonstrate total ineptitude on the part of the aforementioned “treating” shrinks. It’s guys like those in my home town who leave me the town’s leading “psychiatrist” on occasion, even though I’ve never been to medical school and obviously can’t legally get “psych” drugs unless I wanted to grow rauwolfia at home. I can certainly diagnose better than these “men of medicine” (I do have an HOD test, after all, which they’d believe to be total nonsense).
What I find amusing is the pseudo-double blind, which is frequently used to show that niacin is ineffective in treating the “schizophrenias”. What happens is that the placebo is some inert substance, making the flushing from the B3 a “tell” that you’re not in the placebo group and “unblinding” the experiment. Since the “experimenters” want the experimental process to fail, they never use stuff like niacinamide or inositol nicotinate to make their experiments truly blind, while doggedly insisting on the validity of their “experiments”.
I, too, am aware that the GOP isn’t filled with geeks. Unfortunately, the geeks seem to have taken over Party ideology, so that anyone who disagrees with them is automatically a dangerous traitor and agent of the Deep State, a Socialist infiltrator trying to destroy Party unity, and national ideology and social cohesion as well.
We aren’t dealing with coherent thought here. Even though there may be many excuses, I’d like the positive psychology addicts to tell me why unmedicated “schizophrenics” don’t get cancer, unlike the “healthy minded”, who frequently die of it before spreading their valuable genes throughout the universe.
This is an effort that fits into GOP social ideology. Remember that we’re dealing with a political party that advocates the Giant Firefight as an “anti-crime” measure in which so many people are armed that the most trivial disruption of the Urban Force will arouse the Armed Multitudes into blasting furiously away- unaware that “spray and pray” shooting is not a good notion to foster in crowded urban settings.
All this frenzied effort Mr. Dole, et. al. had to endure reminds me of the days I was treating various individuals for distorted perceptions with basic B3 and C therapy. Having read Linus Pauling and David Hawkins, MD, I made a point of warning the proper “clients” who I knew were gay, that gay males receiving megavitamins sometimes found that their sexual orientations involuntarily changed, and that I couldn’t do anything about this side effect of treatment, as I was dealing with his dysperceptions, instead.
Now, I find that Mr. Dole has had to undergo years of useless punitive treatment at the hands of bunglers with MD degrees in attempts to achieve, what for me, was a routine hazard of my sideline practices.
If I was to be named on this list of “authorities”, I’d want the creators of said list to use an alias instead of my real name.
Well, we do know that the executors of this defective study were praying for a hopeful outcome, which is why they went to such contortions in their attempts to find one.
Hoffer, and his buddy Humphry Osmond did a lot of that early research while both were in Saskatchewan, back in the 1950’s and early 1960’s. Were it not for the US DEA, psychedelic therapy would likely still be around in Canada.
Before I got too psychic, I’d try to find out if my client was low in magnesium, which I’d have to do with a therapeutic trial of magnesium salts.
Bad ideas in action. There’s no pleasure in this compulsive eating- it has more of the mental attributes of a necessity, like a compulsion of any kind.
You’ll be even more indignant when you realize these shrinks willfully remain ignorant of the basics of nutritional psychiatry, because the practitioner’s mind is closed to anything outside of what he learned in school or company-sponsored seminars.
I don’t know about akathisia, but I do know that GP’s most likely know squat about dysperceptions, so they don’t ask. They also don’t know about quantitative testing before “diagnosing”, so they wind up giving antidepressants to individuals who, unknown to them,. are showing early signs of the schizophrenia syndrome, the precise group whose individuals are most likely to lose their marbles when medicated with these drugs.
This is also likely to happen to shrinks with the same diagnostic problem difficulties, only they’re better at coming up with excuses than the GP’s.
I notice that these learned individuals made no mention of things like heavy metal poisoning, which can provoke real hyperactive behavior. But those are treatable with routine stuff like D-pen, which don’t have to be continued for decades. There are likely to be other things that induce “hyperactivity”, because “ADHD” is just a description and not a real diagnosis.
Niacinamide and C may be able to ease the hallucinations used at the basic level of 3g/day for each (1g ea. TID in doctorspeak) You shouldn’t flush, like you would with niacin (which is why I didn’t suggest it, instead of the amide). And you won’t go on the nod, like you did with the meds.
The problem isn’t lack of ability or keeping peer respect, but trying to convince a straight supervisor that I actually know what I’m doing with stuff and methods (s)he’s probably never seen or heard of, unless (s)he’s read a screed about quackery.
This is why I don’t listen to mental health professionals who like to tell me I’m going to seriously poison myself taking several grams of niacin and an equal amount of vitamin C every day, instead of their allegedly therapeutic drugs.
Alas, there’s no place for me among the peer specialists, as I recognize the principles of orthomolecular medicine and wouldn’t hesitate to use high levels of certain vitamins and minerals in treating some conditions, thereby making me an Evil Sorcerer of mental health who uses forbidden enchantments and substances, following the guidance of the renegade High Priests Hoffer and Osmond, and who should therefore be kept away from the “mentally ill”.
Psychiatric research isn’t going anywhere soon, because, for one, shrinks seem to believe their “diagnoses” are of real ailments. Kryptopyrolle (“mauve factor”) isn’t regarded as a biomarker because the positive results fall into different “diagnostic categories”, even though all the “categories” respond to the same B6+ zinc treatment.
Maybe it’s time to go “orthomolecular”. Although these individuals are heavily into biochemistry, they’re not believers in “therapeutic” drugs, but are heavy into the use of diet and/or nutrients for both acute and maintenance therapy. They’re also not fond of psychiatric “diagnoses” either. You might even learn things you weren’t taught in school.
It’s spelled “etiologies”. Some of us have better things to do than reiterate what clowns most shrinks are. That’s likely to be a given, anyway.
So this is a British idea in which one of their cops is a leader in the alleged treatment team. Too bad that most of the pohmies (Prisoners of Her Majesty’s Empire) I’ve talked to seem to believe that their officers are generally nitwits (one of the major reasons they don’t wear sidearms) who they wouldn’t trust to give them the correct time of day, much less listen and respond properly to their accounts of personal misery.
My mother had to endure her share of this when a psychologist decided that (a.) I was a schizophrenic and (b.) it was due to some kind of parental fumbling on her part. It wasn’t until a number of years later that I found out I’d been poisoned by copper-contaminated drinking water that made me dysperceptive as a result.
Maybe it’s whether you argue with your audios and how much you actually do (argue with them).
No- the trainees shrinks need to know more about medical illnesses that masquerade as psychiatric/ psychological “illnesses” than they do sociological difficulties, although they have to be aware of such things in any case.
You’ve got my vote.
He needs supervisors on nutrients, where they feel so good they aren’t thinking of suddenly stopping and letting their thoughts turn into jello.
For alcohol related issues, plain old nicotinic acid B3 is the substance of choice, particularly for withdrawals. I don’t know if flush-free B3, (inositol hexanicotinate?) would work as well, as I’m used to flush-filled nicotinic acid after several decades of using it, myself.
I’d say the researchers are too simple to study their subject’s background and the employers so greedy they’d sell their children at the drop of a hat, if it paid well.
Oops.
B1 is for beriberi.
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One supplement for withdrawals that I know of is the use of mega niacin for alcohol withdrawals, having overseen a couple of them, when the friends of an individual whose style involved going cold turkey and collapsing on the street became worried and contacted me, knowing I had assisted in preventing adverse drug/alcohol reactions in others.
So- at last, another weirdo like me who believes that your diet plays an important role in maintaining or regaining one’s sanity. I’ve occasionally wondered if I lived on the same planet as some of the other commentators.
Don’t forget, sam, about its valuable use in covering up psychiatric treatment failures, helping the therapist feel less like the incompetent (s)he very likely is.
Not to worry about your BPD “diagnosis”, a proud inhabitant of the diagnostic wastebasket that’s usually given when the doctor has no idea what’s going on.
Journey into the surreal. Big Time Psychiatry and You. And they’ll tell you you know nothing and you’d better be forking over the billions to get to Psychiatric Heaven (maybe). And if anything bad happens to you, it’s your fault because you weren’t zombie enough and had a mind of your own.
The thought that “schizophrenics” are reacting to altered perceptions in a way that would be normal if we knew their components, seems too complex for shrinks to understand. Of course, an introduction to altered perceptions via hallucinogenic experience seems to be too dangerous for the psychiatric mind to understand. Maybe it’s too scary and they’re afraid of becoming permanently bonkers in the twinkling of an eye.
You have to distinguish the difference between science and scientism. The only real connection between science and scientism are the letters s, c, i, e, and n. Scientism is a dogma that claims the infallibility of past and present scientific conclusions, while actual science seeks to know if such conclusions are really true.
I’m just a psychiatric mechanic and not really good at providing spiritual comfort, but I do wonder about her B12 levels.
Well, John. If our politicians actually did do something serious about addiction, they wouldn’t have anything serious to campaign about during their following election campaign seasons, now, would they.
Well, if one is a real peer and knows what they’re doing, they’d be likely to be treated with fear and suspicion until they’re canned by their overseeing professionals, no matter what the degree of improvement was ever found in their subjects. I remember the underlying terror in my superiors’ eyes when they discovered I was likely responsible for a couple of their subjects graduating from an alcohol/drug treatment program when they weren’t supposed to (well, I probably was the perpetrator) after they’re “diagnoses” were that the pair were hopeless cases and bound to stay that way. Although they wanted to know how I did it, I became so peeved I didn’t tell them I simply used niacinamide, 3g/day for both of them (I worked PM shifts, so it was easy to secretly treat them). I was also worried they’d try to keep me from getting unemployment because I was “medicating” residents.
Being on vitamins for 45 years, I find myself reading the psychiatric excuses for this sort of thing amusing, in a dark sort of way. If these Big Time Shrinks found out about me, they’d beg me to stop poisoning myself and get into proper treatment with safe proper drugs. This article helps me realize that Big Time Psychiatry is led by delusional medicos (and who’d want to be doped up by delusional individuals with poisonous neurochemicals?).
“But in the article context I don’t know what their training was like”. Think monkey see, monkey do and you’ll be right on the money (monkey?).
I’d prefer the Earth House in New Jersey, where the emphasis is upon improving your mental health by improving your physical health, but then I’m this site’s materialist (and New Jersey’s a lot closer than California).
I should also mention how unstable blood sugar can also induce “mental” symptoms that probably won’t be caught by many therapists- also a reason to avoid refined carbs, sweets, caffeine and the like, sometimes hard to do in Britain with its regular 4PM tea and sugary cookies’ ritual (aka carbs, sucrose and caffeine).
I suspect you didn’t have any of those alleged diagnoses you got when you were a patient, but maybe some kind of cerebral allergy that might have been relieved by the special diet you were put on in England, in which junk food levels were low or nonexistent. You can probably see similar things in some of the patients you sit for. Look for them, as it will give you something to do and also give you the outside chance to do things for the food sensitive “psychiatric” patients. In the meantime, stay away from caffeine, as it’s likely to increase your emotional lability (in addition to the institutional junk food).
I’m glad I’m not presently depressed. I’d hate to put my sanity into the hands of psychological and psychiatric fumblers and bumblers.
It’s a hard subject to discuss, because the individuals who know the most are either outlaws like Hoffer and Osmond were, or members of a despised race, like the members of the Native American Church.
I find this to be more than a trifle bizarre. Did it come on because one of the side effects of modern antipsychotics is that your weight doubles if you’re on them for any length of time, thanks to a now ravenous appetite? I think ads promoting this might have an amusing bizarre motif, maybe featuring “testimonials” from obese spokespeople (“before I saw the shrink, I only weighed 97 pounds-now I’m 300, at least!”) who were once anorexics.
Have these scholars realized they just provided a rationale for fasting and diets selected to inhibit inflammatory food reactions? They’re doing the unthinkable- providing treatments for some conditions other than patented psych drugs.
Hard to say, as the late Carl Pfeiffer was an orthomolecular guy, who, like Abram Hoffer, had a large part of his patient load consisting of other people’s treatment failures. It would also depend on exposure to anticholinergic drugs- of course the antipsychotics raise your histamine level, but the drugs for suppressing their side effects don’t.
Yes, but you could handle a gigantic client load if you only had to see many of them once, or for a few times.
ETC is hanging around the same way muzzle loading artillery did. The technology of the first half of the 19th Century wasn’t developed enough to develop a breech strong enough to handle the explosive burst of artillery propellant without disintegrating the gun.
Maybe their internal adrenochrome has kicked in. It is a metabolic product.
These guys would do well to learn about supernutrition, which would fit into their program well, as they are interested in their residents’ (“patient” doesn’t work well here) physical and mental well being.
So you never examine your “ADHD” sufferers to see if they might have elevated lead, even though that’s known to produce hyperactivity. Of course you don’t believe in using hair samples to test for trace mineral levels, because an “authority” who has never used them pronounced them to be useless.
Psychiatrists, despite this jive about chemical imbalances, also tend to miss the ones that are there. One of the most striking ones, in my experience, made the news about 45 years ago, when a chronic patient in one of our state facilities, had his hair turn green, to the amazement of all. He’d been vegetating in the back wards for years and nobody paid any attention to him until his hair turned green. I don’t know if any of the savants of the day realized he had Wilson’s Disease after his hair turned green, but none of them seemed to realize what was going on at the time and I was only beginning to study trace mineral levels and mental functioning and I only found out what was going on when I realized the consequences of Wilsons Disease (inability to excrete copper).
It’s people like those that you mentioned who are the reasons(?) that I’m periodically the best “psychiatrist” in my home town, despite never having been to medical school nor graduate school, unable to prescribe any drugs, much less psych drugs, have no office and have never taken up popular psych fads in decades.
We’re dealing with feeble and inept “experts” here.
This comes as no surprise as tame company-inspired shrinks aren’t going to inquire about much of anything beyond the company backed “symptom questionnaire” in their initial interviews, which means they won’t catch perceptual distortions that should influence proper treatments- and are also a contraindication for antidepressant prescribing.
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I’ve enjoyed what Abram Hoffer did when illness compelled him to stop working. He willed his patients to his secretary, who had picked up a doctorate in Naturopathic Medicine while working for him for 30 or so years. On several occasions, in his articles he’d remarked how she was frequently better with his patients than he was.
Adrenochrome would be the perfect candidate for the shrinks- it lasts a long time and you lose insight that you’re buzzed so you can have strange thoughts and do strange things without realizing they are strange. Plus, it isn’t a psychedelic.
I’d probably enjoy being a specialist, but I’d never get by, because of a drawback the author didn’t mention- that of the specialist being more knowledgeable than his/her professional, something similar to owning a dog who was smarter than you were.
I’d already had such an experience at my last MH related job at a residential treatment center for substance abusers, where a new hire had run a gent who’d deliberately cut himself to the hospital, leaving the other residents behind, and one of them called me.
The next afternoon I was sitting in the flunkies’ office wondering if B3 would help this guy, when another resident came to the door and asked me it I thought he was schizophrenic, so I gave him a session with my HOD test, which I kept on the property at the time, and he scored in the “schizophrenic” range, so I suggested he see about B3 (amide, because it doesn’t induce flushing) and educate himself with How to Live with Schizophrenia.
He began to take the B3, whereupon the cutting guy became fascinated and started the B3 himself, both getting 3g/afternoon (only on my shift) unbeknownst to the clinical staff. Both graduated from the program, despite an assessment from the clinical staff on their admissions that neither would.
Naturally, the clinicians called me on the carpet, upset that their residents both graduated despite their awful prognoses (they must have talked to their new graduates, baffled that they were graduating), making awful faces and noises. I refused to tell them, as I suspected they’d accuse me of medicating their patients and I wanted my unemployment free of having to dispute them, as B3 isn’t a drug, plus, I didn’t want to keep my job in order to watch patients fail their treatments out of staff ignorance.
The real problem for psychiatry in reviving psychedelic therapy is how to ignore and/or denigrate the work of Hoffer and Osmond, who not only gave us the words “hallucinogen” (Hoffer) and “psychedelic” (Osmond), but devised a psychedelic treatment for alcoholism that the Province of Saskatchewan adopted, until the US Drug Enforcement Authority forced it to stop.
These evil geniuses not only devised this treatment, but also methods of quick initial screening to ensure the safety of their subjects (the infamous HOD test I sometimes mention here in MIA, plus items that can be quickly picked up on during an initial interview).
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No problem seen here. When you’re “seriously mentally ill” is when you’re most likely to have become “cosmetically” ill, where you look and act crazy enough so that the most casual observer can tell you aren’t “playing with a full deck”.
Picture yourself as a clerk in a gun store when George Washington, complete with the skin-tight pants and tri-cornered hat rushes into your store demanding to buy an AK or M16 lookalike because British agents are following him down the street and he needs to run them off by showing them he’s armed and carrying hundreds of rounds of ammunition preloaded into 30-shot magazines. Unless you belong to some outfit like the Proud Boys, who don’t believe people with native ancestry are real Americans and that monstrous conspiracies involving thousands of secret members are running our governments, the proposed sale is a no go.
If he treated his patients with voodoo, he’s liable to have more success that a shrink using the newest academic methods.
More like a sorry bunch of fumblers who are able to convince the public they know what they’re doing. As an orthomolecular outlaw, I try to avoid such individuals, not hard to do when you use niacin for perceptual distortions (aka schizophrenia syndrome), or magnesium for anxiety (assorted “personality” disorders). The hard thing to do is not bad mouthing some speaker who doesn’t know what he’s talking about and you know it and (s)he is unaware of their ignorance.
Study after medical school and after getting that license seems to be a rare effort. Nobody seems to know squat about postpartum depression, so they don’t realize they’re not dealing with a “mood disorder” that’s best not treated with psych drugs, but with zinc (and maybe B6 to get the zinc working) to excise the excess serum copper, the likely source of postpartum depressions, and probably various other nutrients.
You failed because you overlooked the big bucks in store for manufacturers and providers, should one of them find the Philosopher’s Antidepressant that actually works. Sorry I didn’t realize my first comment loaded OK.
You failed because you overlooked the big bucks in store for providers and manufacturers alike. Much of this manufacturing labor is done in search of the big financial killing, should the Philosopher’s Antidepressant be eventually discovered by the company that can successfully ride the waves of adversity in the search for this Miracle Medication.
Well, personalized treatment for “depression” is possible, but it’s not going to be with drugs alone. Since “depression” is a syndrome and not a disease unto itself, it’s necessary to find out what’s inducing it, in order to provide proper and appropriate treatment.
“Precision psychiatry” might have some merit, but not when it’s inextricably linked to pharmacological “treatments” and “cures”. There are many things outside the brain that can induce disordered emotions and moods, but not that many that will succumb to pharmacological agents alone.
I’ve come across the use of manganese salts for movement disorders related to psych drugs in 30 year old Journals of Orthomolecular Medicine. I realize that psychiatry is slow to grasp simple medical realities, but this is ridiculous. Of course, this is understandable because there are no megabucks to be realized in treating complex diseases with simple (home?) treatments, but this is indeed ridiculous.
Izumi was just the architect, but Humphry Osmond, superintendent at nearby Weyburn, one of the worst mental institutions in the world when he first took over, was a pioneer in letting his patients go to town when they wanted to.
I wonder if any of the architects decided to approximate patients’ experiences in a mental institution by walking around in one while under the influence of hallucinogens. It’s not that unusual- a chap name Kiyo Izumi spent time in the old Saskatchewan institution at Weyburn, while under the influence of LSD, to see how the patients experienced the place. This is before he designed one of North America’s first new hospitals in Yorkton, Saskatchewan
Since I’ve read a number of pieces by and about Temple Grandin, I’ve drifted away from popular notions about autism, although the squeeze machine sounds like an interesting idea.
Well, the first thing overlooked was that depression isn’t a disease at all, but a syndrome-a collection of signs and symptoms that can have any of multiple origins as causes. This is why antidepressants are frequently useless or harmful, particularly for “PPD”, which is frequently brought on by copper excess, or “dysperceptive depression”, where the doctor doesn’t notice, or ignores his/her patient’s perceptual status and ongoing perceptual distortions and/or irregularities.
Your experimental group would have probably done even better had the experimenters done things like trace mineral analyses and testing perceptual stability to determine what nutrients to use for each member of your experimental group, but that would deprive the experimenters efforts to put uniform groups together.
Steve. You’re probably right about these awareness campaigns, but that’s easy for me to say, as I’m one of the least likely readers to seek the “mental health assistance” the spokespeople are usually talking about. I doubt if the professionals would like to see individuals seeking mental health assistance at the supplements’ counter of their local pharmacies or big box stores, or even going to the pharmacy counter to ask for bulk 500mg. niacin in the 1000 tablet bottle.