Wednesday, March 29, 2023

Comments by Michal_

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  • Thanks for answer! It suprised me, but that may be due to my own history of disrespect that I was predicting some outburst. Respect for that!

    Yes. The studies results vary. But I think the newer study you pick, the gap is smaller and smaller. Some of the newest studies show that the gap may be almost all disapear. But I need to take a better look at the studies you cited.

    You can also argue that quality of parenthood in childhood have much to do with your future effectiveness, your negotiation sklls, standing up for yourself, and being productive.

    The thing is, I dont buy the term structural gender discrimination, and I dont buy the proposal of some kind of policies from government. If you raise minimum wage, businesses hire people on part time jobs, or need to fire someone else. That never worked. Any intervention or subsidy tilt the scale in the other directon and is ineffective in the long run. Studies show that most of the gap is due to women individual choices, and remaining 5-7 precent is unknown.

    Women need to emancipate themselfes. If you think job you are doing is worth more, you should ask for raise. If you dont get it, you should start your own business and hire women on better salary and outcompete business that you left.

  • Hey.
    I think its true that situation that you are currently in is affecting your mood, not chemical imbalances that psychiatrists suggests.

    What I find misleading in this article are numbers. I dont know, maybe I have wrong ones. But I was thinking that wage gap was largely a myth. So this article was challanging for me to read. So I looked up the numbers and I still think I was right and article is misleading in presenting the numbers.

    So I felt it would be useful to present other nubers and facts.
    First, the number 54% of mens earnings for women I find only in one study, that was done on Hispanic and Latina females. This does not discount it, but it does not shows big picture.
    The number that I often found is 78 % of mens earnings for women. But here is the problem. It takes all full time earnings of men, and all full time earnings for women, and derives its number from that gap. It does not account for education, job choices, hours working, fields, differences in salary negotiations, work experience, and breaks in employment. These factors resolve 60% to 75% of the pay gap, depending on the source.
    The numbers are also different for older women, and women entering the market in recent years. You can argue that older women tend to focus more on family and children, as these days women focus more on education and job performance. So gap for second group is a lot smaller that for first.
    Also, you can argue that the number 54 % for Latino and Hispanic women(I dont know if you derives it from the same source), can be due to less education amongs these groups, that usually came to USA as immigrant population, from countries that are less familiar with free market ideas, education, more prone to dependency on government. But I am not sure.

    Other studies(OECD, AAUW, US Department of Labor) shows that gap is about 5-6.6 %. So your article Philip can account only for that number, which still need to be addressed, but it is not 32,5 % as you wrote.

    It still resonates with me that you environment is crucial, and thanks for that.