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They do not exist a mythos urban myth there are no survivors here , a heroic attempt piece of fabrication,false news. Just people struggling,coping, learning attrition, survivors is a term of glorification.
Funny then that so many people are dying..
Probably due to profound social isolation and being ostracised from society for daring not to be ‘normal’ (using the term very loosely)lol
Very sad to hear that when my son came out same length of time and had his d level tested it was so low it was undetectable in his blood. Psychiatrist probably wrote some Bs about you asking him in the record. Some label ‘mum is neurotic hypochondriac ‘ or similar. It took 8months high dose oral therapy to get his reading back up, that doesn’t help u tho all I can do is add u to my loving kindness meditation tonight. Sorry and love from Australiaxxxxxx
Your blog is fantastic brilliant music and photo’s and you writing is great ! Thank you cheered my afternoon I will be back !
thank you Anthony
Sorry to hear your story. That is Australia all right. The lies and twistingof truth in these documents. Short hand and sub text. When I was still trying to work it all out (just a phase trying to understand it now I don’t bother) I did some analysis on various inpatient summaries and discharge docs just like this. Phrases repeated over and over labelling and value judgements. Such as “well known to services”..guarded (why would u not be guarded with these people when ur locked up and have 4security guards on you ????) it’s lovely of everyone advising you to move in reality no one will give u papers to move there once they see your label so u are trapped. I wish u the best of luck and all good thoughts
The federal members do not give a shit even less than the state ones if that is humanly possible
Yes I know all the ways to get documents and all the angles at the end of the day none of it is useful in the long run
This would be a funny story if it wasn’t so terrible. We complained aggressively about the torture and negligent hospital care of our son and after FOI of the records found this had been documented as “folie de trois” ie madness of 3 .the next time we both visited our GP for routine stuff he tried to refer us to a psychiatrist.. Sad but true ..no matter how hard it is we have vowed never to trust or engage with a single person involved in this rotten corrupt system including the GP who we now just treat as a script writer . The minister in the same state as boans explained that other people’s sons had been four pointed on a trolley for longer than mine at 97hours and thus we should consider ourselves “lucky “..who is the madperson here???brilliant piece Tina thank you
Thank you Ron . Rufus May is one of the most helpful and caring people I have ever met in my life he gave me hope when I had none and I will never forget that in my horrible ,sad and lonely journey as a carer. Just a tiny rare ray of light tho.They call it a journey to fool u into thinking its like a trip or a holiday.. aS my friend ann always says” you wouldn’t fecking pay to go on this journey ” But there are not enough people like Ron and Rufus to go around and it is virtually impossible to cope and make any progress on your own when you live in a place where there are NO alternative treatments or supports. As much as everyone might want to deny it you get to a situation where you can see no way out other than back to the demonic and horrific system because you are worn down and all exhausted and have run out of options.
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Rufus may is a great believer in chair therapy for voice hearers
We have tried it and it is powerful in the right loving and compassionate hands not so much in the hands of a control freak or anyone who is part of the system and wants to lock you up which the writer carefully does not mention at all…..
Some of the most atrocious people I have met in my life have been part of the so called not for profit here in Perth Australia peer self help sector oh my god they worship the psychiatrists.. Will do anything for them… U can imagine what they will do
‘ just let them get on with their work’ they know what is best even when its 60mgs of olanzapine …
Parochial unprofessional pathetic so keen to access the funding they will do anything all…in the beginning you have no idea how dangerous they are.. I think I will sue them that will be interesting..they are culpable…
I just took my son with a “psych diagnosis ” to our GP with what looks to me as a 30year experienced health care professional as a skin cancer on his foot and was summarily dismissed.. Good try everyone ..someone explain that to me other than no one other than me gives a rats arse.. When I call myself mad that is a euphemism for mad as hell, angry , really really pissed of that this boy’s life counts for nothing . Not one of you morons here will reply because Matt was the only one that ever did shame on you all
Thank you angelic one for your love and kindness unlike most here you have no agenda other than pure love.. That is very precious.. Oh for more like you .thank you
His books and views are absolute bilge hopefully his detox will fix him right up
So true mark .. Name rank and number only
Excellent piece great advice for everyone . Thank you Eric
Probably because you are much happier being off that disgraceful poisonous piece of garbage just stabilise and stay well good luck to you
Meditation can save us all if only we can be bothered to do it .. That is the difficulty sitting with pain fear and grief looking them in the face and somehow getting up tomorrow. That is the key.. I wish I had time to mediate half a day every day… One day perhaps❤
A disgrace from the NyT you Americans need to complain en masse
God rest you Bonnie
Well done you Jim fight to the end respect to you❤
She is herself and does not need to “turn ” into anything so derogatory
You are correct Steve there is no hope no choice they are all the same pointless voting for any of them the entire system is broken best plan if no one at all voted what would happen then ..?? I would love to see that day
I live in the same place as you boans and I completely absolutely support the WA voluntary assisted dying legislation enacted by our government by which we will ensure as per Terry Pratchett’s wish that everyone is entitled to free choice as in their right to “their life, their death their choice ” nothing whatsoever to do with the government killing you getting really bored with hearing it . Try watching someone you love suffer for weeks With terminal illness bleeding tears of blood . “If I was a dog or cat you would put me to sleep and out of pain” I will never forget those words so have some respect.
Psychiatrist don’t believe it even exists you report it because you are anti psychiatry,read too much and wont let them get on with their jobs and they give more drugs and start benzos to mitigate the effects. My experience exactly what was said to me it was the illness causing the 36hours constant walking … I don’t like the poster as it labels by putting violence first in the list not sure who it is aimed at it should just advise you not to take the drugs and don’t go to these ‘doctors’ simple …
Thank you Eric for this and your unwavering clarity
Beautiful picture and love the bird so gorgeous thank you and have a wonderful 2020 what a tidy and significant label for the year 2020 best wishes from a burning Australia
Reminds me of the Frost poem will the world end in fire or ice ” I hold with those who favour fire” love to everyone xxxx
The answer to nialls question posed in the title is NO and that is all any of us need to know. His submission to the “inquiry”will be ignored at best at worst will lead to further vilification and impuning of his reputation but at least he gets in there and gives it a go and for that we are grateful.
God forgive you all
Agree with your stance completely
great piece Itay thank you. You are lucky there are such places I hope they continue to develop and increase in number in your country
Thanks Eric as ever a fantastic piece of honesty and truth
Great article Will balanced and much truth thank you !
Thank you Kelly for this great articles and links appreciated
What a horrible comment blame the victim.. Unbelievably nasty
Dr malis what a piece of work.. This poor woman a true horror story of psychiatric abuse and abuse of power so sad
Sorry to hear your experience with lithium but glad you got in and out of hospital relatively ok
I think of all the contributers to this site I look forward and enjoy your pieces the most as they are completely honest and pure no agenda no ranting just your life as it is and we are lucky to have your willingness to share. you always impact my perspective-thankyou
There is no winning for anyone here. Your writing hit home a terrible reminder of the situation many of us are in I wrote a poem recently that appeared from nowhere. Until you have watched helpless as the boy you gave birth lies shackled on a trolley for 97hours you have never lived.until you have waited for hours for the end of the world the voice said was due at 5pm you have never lived.until you have watched the armed police take away the boy u gave birth to u have never lived..until u have sat in support group with all the other mad mothers trying to explain this crap u have never lived..it goes on for hours.. Won’t bore u all.. But to all u mad mothers out there love you and bless you all.. There is no help or support.. One million candles burning for the hope that never came We are alone with a dream of a normal life a life that cannot be just endless mourning..
Actually that is insulting to animals who would have more care for an injured pack member than any psych nurse i have ever met.. evil personified
He is a psychiatrist that comment on ect is not satire it is what he believes
Sad piece very depressing if you aren’t Maori then restraint, seclusion,medication and CTO is what you will get ..
This is great advice and applicable in a host of contexts not just for children and parents. when you are desperate and seeking support advice like this is like finding a treasure trove!thank you chaya
They start out to make money the rest of the bestial behaviour follows as they ‘mature’ like rotten meat..a forum like this ie a grand round achieves nothing other than self congratulatory reinforcement of inhumane practices
Thank you for responding robert appreciated
My question to Robert .. normally the end of a grand round there is question time did you or anyone else query or question or did you all just sit there like planks nodding ?? that is the place this is won or lost most grand rounds also serve a great lunch hopefully everyone had a good feed off the misery of others less fortunate than them.
Scary article essentially write what you like it will be ignored… as the doctors and vice presidents know best at all times.. they know the best drugs and best restraint and seclusion. fake news is 100% correct.. another nami piece of marketing pad short for patients are dumb….
martha’s writing was truly beautiful thank you for sharing her work and all good wishes for your journey and in reducing your own drugs x. zoloft and respiridone almost killed my child i am lucky he has escaped the system but the damage done to him is slow to heal
Thank you david inspiring read tapering properly is a full time commitment, good luck moving forward. i am looking forward to buying your book!!
I read it twice and have no idea what he is saying.. not a clue.. you are all being very kind and generous in your praise which i think is quite lovely of you which is the reason i love this site!!
I sent some twitters to them about some of the crap on their site and they blocked me!!! they are so pompous, gloating and self congratulatory i think its called toxic narcissism it would be entertaining if they were not killing people everyday.
Its the patients fault for being treatment resistant …
i wonder if the fake psychiatrist was any worse than the “real “ones ??? watching someone with akathisia who cannot sit for even one minute and being completely ignored by the trick cyclist “it’s just the psychosis lets increase the drugs and add in beta blockers,benzos and sodium valporate…oh and temazepam and 2 anti depressants.. that was the end of our faith in any psychiatrist or engagement with ‘services’ so it was actually a good thing to see him in all his glory that early in the piece and again i wonder if the fake one could’ve been any more cruel,indifferent or manipulative….
Eric brilliant piece as usual so many reminders in here for me of how this evil world wide system works, its lies ,fabrication, indifference,manipulation . and abuse of power.And as much as we can all express our sympathy or empathy to you nothing most of us can do to help you in any way. that is the bitter reality you are the person living thru this horror. Earlier today i was reading a uk piece in the guardian by a psychiatrist about how terrible and upset sectioning people makes them feel _ yeh sure!! anyway thinking of you today from the other side of the world with intense admiration for your bravery and eloquence.
Thank you ekaterina for this beautifully written and so glad you are out and home please keep writing
Best comment yet street photo u made me laugh by bursting the pompous bubbles thank you !
No idea what your point is here in relation to the article at all…….
Exactly bonnie it was just a matter of when i have been wondering for some time when they would go after him. i’m just glad torrey has stopped putting cats brains in buckets!and if its true about his sister i feel very sorry for her just imagine her drug regime….will be interesting to see how Cochrane power struggle plays out but i think we can all work it out personally i avoid all and any scientific articles purporting to give evidence on psych drugs as i see the horrific ‘results’ every day in front of my eyes and that is all the truth and evidence I need. thanks robert for your usual well written piece.
Despondent you are so right. quick to say drug resistant.. and just keep adding drugs till you cant stand up and because its quick and cheap ..
Did a taper involving dilution pipetes and science smug psychiatrist how did you manage that ?? trying to catch me out ‘patronising oh you can do math bs..no one wants you to taper..or come off this stuff
Same false advertising as anti psychotics bunch of jokers…
There is just yourself and you are enough
Thanks for this wonderful article and all the optomistic stories of hope from all of you much love to all x
Fantastic read thank you so much
Ted dont want to be sued simple as that folks.
I so enjoyed this Jeannie thank you
Lovely article thank you so much but depressing for those who cannot access such support
Thanks for sharing Louise hay is confronting material as its basis is self love and extreme self care something we are not good at. Her mirror work book is also excellent take care and best wishes.yes definitely to magnesium I use the oil in foot bowl soaks as well as oral a very comforting and healing element thanks for the reminder bc Harris!!
The only rudeness I have encountered is from arrogant moderators and I do think you fawn in a pathetic way over certain of your favourite professionals . You need to apply some rigour too many of your moderators are ‘professionals.. Which is an inbalance in itself. likes is a bit more populist crap.
First they came for old head… what a vision him being led away defiant to the end
i post a lot on other sites including American psychiatrists professional sites and never get moderated go figure how sad is that…and no one seems bothered here at mod in America.. God forgive you all a prophet is never recognised in their own lifetime they say mad away
They are powerful rich and pathological liars do not try to look for any other meaning there is not one to be had. Also tho there are few alternative options for most people lwrote a haiku about one ‘of them ‘paunch pushing against his plaid shirt casually orders imprisonment for one who is worth one thousand of him’ keep on fighting concerned carer sending you compassion from over the sea.
The article made me angry for various reasons opening paragraph words I’d no idea what they meant orthogonal is that to do with gonads ???. Angry consumers or lived experience people wont get to be invited to events because the people they want there are the passive victims who agree with drugs and restraint and worship the psychiatrists and psychologists and think anyone who doesn’t needs more drugs.
In Australia they even run special courses to help you tell your story what this means is toning it down and being grateful to some person who broke you if you cant lie in this wy you won’t get to go to nothing. The same apologists will be wheeled out time and again t public events to represent the lived experience .. It’s a joke..in fact what will save you is refusal to engage with any organised groups events or professionals and hold on to your anger as it is the purest and best response to what has happened to you it is valid ‘do not look for healing at the feet of those ‘professionals’ who broke you !(with apologies for plagarising to Rupi Kaur) find your support or not outside the main stream as the mainstream will lead you back down an open sewer. Frank is quite right about the emperors nakedness unfortunately the Emperor is also the most powerful individual on earth as he can in prison you,drug you or electrocute you without impunity or review even with his gonads hanging out for all to see!!Keep up the fight you wonderful posters at MIA Oldhead someone else, don’t tone it down keep that anger stoked up..protest and survive that’s what recovery means gird yourself up like warriors as we are fighting for our lives and for people we love do not be cowed or sheep like as we all know what that leads to!much love to all including the authors who really don’t understand.
Niall as usual perfectly nailed
I have dealt with /listened to many australian psychiatrists all completely committed to chemical theory and genetic traits. All besotted with drugs. raising side effects gets you labelled as difficult and antipsychiatry..and more drugs for your family member! entire profession here a disgrace no regulation ..lots of involuntary orders no contemporary or compassionate practice avoid them at all costs. i would be very proud if they refused to publish me it means you speak the truth!
Thank you rossa for your brilliant article inspiring.i went to a workshop with Eleanor longden and she said her mother never gave up on her even when everyone else had. the role of the mother is downplayed in all forums including this site so lovely to hear what you both did and are still doing look forward to more articles from you as most Mother’s have no idea what to do . We feel that we know but we do not trust our instincts in a world that labels us as difficult and part of the problem. Thanks again.
Thanks for the link to this wish washy report some terrible comments in there agree complete waste of money
Soteria is the way forward but it is not going to happen as it has no value or worth or profit for drug companies or psychiatrists. Thank you robert for the great article shame it was hijacked sadly the great public are happy to see people shackled restrained or drugged s it makes them feel safe. A world spiralling out of control dark days indeed
tireless fighter i love your clarity and agree with you completely. the psychologists are just less well paid psychiatrists who went to school for a shorter period. when push comes to shove they will have u locked up for your own good of course. meanwhile condoning and supporting the psychiatrists they revere no challenge no boat rocking no advocacy because they agree there is something wrong with you that needs fixing
too little too late. last week i saw a world famous “expert” having a crafty smoke he told me he was sick, how do you feel now about your career ? i asked “l harmed too many people and their families” my reply “too little too late i hope someone forgives you i can’t” his reply ..”i dont blame you” Things ill done and done to others harm…
what a find the on being site some fantastic items in there
thank you so much for leading me there!
agree with you completely re mental health weeks here in Oz its that time of year just before halloween
lots of patronising lip service events, Schizophrenia Awareness week etc it is hideous and the reality is that no one actually cares there are no services other than meds and enforced involuntary admissions I guess it makes the community feel better about itself so it serves some purpose.
it is very popular here in Australia for cats and dogs – cat psychologists abound and behaviorists who will analyze your pet and prescribe. Cesar Milan with medication in his bag!!
Outdoor cats its high risk as they become dopey and dull in their natural instincts .
thank you Frank
Agree completely there is no alternative treatment out there at all.. you either sort it out yourself or rely on the spawn of the devil to give you drugs ….
Devil and the deep blue sea ..
Completely agree with you the purity of your piece is breathtaking
Elyn Saks is a disgrace people like her are part of the problem not part of the solution
She should know better
Yes Bruce is completely into the idea that he was depressed because his brain chemistry was stuffed up.. its a working class thing that someone cleverer must know the truth..shame on him
I have not listened to a single track of his since then and Carrie Fisher an apologist for the drug industry her stupid brother made a huge prozac pill to carry at her funeral really he has missed the point the drugs killed her you moron and the diabetes and heart disease and maternal abuse by a mother who solicited her out at an early age
Agree with you Oldhead but no one here wants to go there re the actual study have u noticed that ?
Do you know?? what it is ?
Tired of reading thru the garbage trying to find out
i read lots of stuff every week that is discouraging and devastating that i ignore because it is BS
Matt had respect for everyone’s opinion always diligently replied to people,kind and encouraging when others on this site can be less than pleasant.
Very sad news and a reminder of the thin veneer we all have varnishing over our pain and fragility I will never forget his kindness and care.
Peter what a great system sorely needed everywhere these drugs are prescribed please do whatever u can to proliferate world wide
Sadly people are happy to prescribe them but completely indifferent to managing the side effects even when they are life threatening
My son developed severe serotonin syndrome pulse 160 profuse sweating ocular signs etc on zoloft and respiridone taken to emergency and only treated properly thanks to us taking a copy of the John Hunter NSW serotonin syndrome protocol with us and giving it to the doctor who was about to have him locked up as psychotic
he would’ve died in there and I’m sure many people do
tapering you manage on your own as well as you can how can they prescribe these drugs without consequences ??
sorry to hear your story take care of yourself thinking of you you are a very brave woman
thanks Angela so sad to read this and wondering how you will be able to work with Doctors and psychologists who prescribe these drugs like they are sweets and cold turkey people off them and add new ones like it is a lottery.
It has taken almost 3 years to slow taper my son off various z drugs, antid’s, olanzapine, epilim the full cocktail i have seen the akathesia up close and personal, the days of brain zaps and unable to sit still for more than a minute before up again endless walking and the doctor just added in more drugs and threatened him with clozapine IM and said it was all psychosomatic and part of the “illness”..and that i should just let him get on with his job. u can see why these kind of people go in for torturing and interrogating jobs..
If I had let him my son would be dead because he said that would’ve been preferable to living with eternal restlessness.
You must keep up this good work and keep on caring for yourself and getting better every day so you can help other people but you must also be incredibly careful not to burn out and give too much of yourself
love and thoughts to youX
sad but true oldhead it is everywhere not just the US that community does not exist those who have it are very lucky and I envy them-
nicotinic acid does the bright red entire upper body thing have swopped to nicotinamide!
Truth there is no such thing as off tangent on this site so not sure what your problem is….
We ramble all over the shop back and forth which is the joy of the site go with the flow there is room for all views and the fluidity is what keeps it interesting!!
great article – AND there is no sign of you slowing down or backing off which in australia is usually what happens- so good on you for your tenacity.
I’m just suprised AHPRA have not come after you for something as you are a thorn in the side of the system.
My best friend in the UK has had multiple well over 50 shocks of ECT’, heart failure as a result and drug induced diabetes and osteoporosis and is over 200 Kg in weight.
Tragic to see her – someone should be charged for what they have done to her following post natal depression 25 years ago while her husband had cancer and her baby was born disabled,(not suprising she was depressed )
It is torture pure and simple- we were student nurses 35 years ago and witenssed long ECT lists in the UK at the Midland nerve hospital. We both said “we will never let anyone do that to us ” the naivety of youth!
Anyway Niall keep up the good work it will be a very sad day when you are no longer around as there will be no voice in the wilderness then, no defender for the helpless ones.
great article thank you
have tried the niacin etc but the flushing was painful. At the end of the day you have to try whatever comes to hand but it is hard when you are so isolated in a society that does not care to keep on getting up every day and keeping on going !
I read ur piece with increasing credulity as i went aLONG
U really have no interest in mad people at all
Quite why u have been allowed on this site I don’t know.
Your belief in the genetic eugenics biological model sitting there in ur peals god forgive u and the obsequious response from members of this forum shame on u
really need to get over yourself and go back to whatever u did before and you multiple houses etc while the rest of us just get on with it and avoid enforced imprisonment as best we can